September 22, 2025 • 51 mins
Welcome back to 'The Jersey Boyz Podcast" on a special LIVE edition of the show with Dave Sturchio, nationally known comedian Bret Ernst and is brother, Amercia's Fan, the Grinch, Keith Ernst. The Cowboys drop a BAD game to the Chicago Bears and the fellas are here to break it down. CeeDee Lamb is being ruled OUT of the Packers & Jets game at the minimum, who if anyone can step up? We cover it all and pick the beatdown Packers game! Enjoy, if you can! #Cowboys #JerseyBoyzPodcast #CowboysNation
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, let's just Tony soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcast with your host Dave Stercio and the Urge Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit about the Cowboys
were New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Enjoy well whatever.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Jersey Boys Podcast.
Dave Starti alongside nationally known comedian Brett Ernston. Of course
his brother Keith, America's fan the Grinch himself. But we're
gonna be doing a whole lot of grinching today. I
got a feeling. I just feel like we're all gonna
be grinching today.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm not even mad. It's just depressing, that's all. Yeah, addressing.
There's nothing to be angry about. There's nothing that's gonna
be fixed. It's gonna be a long season.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man, all right. That' where we're at.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So we're gonna talk to you guys next week on
the Jersey Boys Podcast.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Like I said starch last week, that this game was
going to determine a lot. I mean, we look great
against the Eagles, we gave it away. We pulled one
out against the Giants, a game we should have won,
which good teams win games are supposed to. We saw
the defensive breakdowns. Secondary was atrocious, and then we're the
worst defense in the NFL, and I don't know how
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we could fix it again. The breakdown in our secondary
is just it's disgusting. There's no other word. I mean,
there was another two long balls they just caught. You know,
I don't know, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, it's all good. Keith.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Obviously nobody could see your screen name, but you came
on to this today as putting sleepwalker or sleepwalk king
or I'm sorry, sleepwalking, just straight up sleepwalkings.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Listen to me, sleepwalk King. Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I said that the Cowboys could sleepwalk their way to
nine wins and a pair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
This was after the I don't remember the timing of that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It was after the Parsons trade. After And that's why
I'm not coming down on you know. I just like
poking fun. But this is why I was the way
I was after the Eagles game. How I just couldn't
because we have the same players. I kept saying that,
and we do. I mean, look when I say the
same players I'm talking about the secondary. I went back
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to that Saints game where Derek Carr had a career
game against US. It seems like all these average quarterbacks
have career games against our secondary, same secondary, except Cason
was there. They were they were all there. Yeah, I
met Malie Hooker, Wilson Higgs, and Bland was the one
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that was injured. But it doesn't matter. It's the same thing.
And this is what it comes down to. Okay. And
and Nick Eatman had an article where he's more blamed
in the past. Rush. I'm not okay because I saw
he did have time every now and then. But this
happened when Micah Parsons was there. It was the same thing.
When we had DeMarcus Lawrence and we had Micael Parsons,
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the same thing was happening. These cornerbacks are not do
not have football intelligence, That's all I'm saying. That's what
I think it comes down to. They don't have the
intelligence too. And I say, I know they're intelligent, I'm
saying football intelligence they don't have in order to understand
coverage and know where to be for you to get
beat on a flea flicker. I haven't seen anyone get beat.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
By a broken on a broken flee flicker. Mind you,
that didn't look like it was a like a well
executed flee flicker.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Blew it up, That's what I mean. They blew it up.
Our secondary got beat.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's like they they got through stalled and then realized
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And then and then you have Trayvon Diggs are supposedly
shut down corner who for two weeks in a row,
he gets beat one on one that was even his
own n's and he slipped. I get it. Who do
you think you are? Anyways, you're getting all close to
this guy, you're bumping. Just just play hey, just play football.
You're not you're not deon.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, him coming in, him coming in already kind of
hobbled apparently with the knee right, and for him to
press like that and and try to chuck him out
the line, and then you basically chucked yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah. Listen, I've been deep diving with a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of the content creators out there, the guys on Talking
Cowboys and Nick Eatman and the articles that are servicing
like there's no real good way to look at this
loss and say like, oh, there's some positive even the
positives were negative. Isaiah Standback pointed that out that on
George Pickens's one handed catch, they missed an illegal man
downfield on Dallas you know, so that could have been
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called back too.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So and again the end zone, the end zones right.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
There, so it's it's hard to it's easier to see
a legal man downfield when the end when there's a
linement in the end zone, that means you're definitely past
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
But in any event, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
There's a lot of hard times to be had, a
lot of hard conversations to have.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But I could say one thing. Yeah, the one person
I don't blame, and I know people are people might
not agree with me. I don't blame Dak for this loss. No,
because his first interception was off Pickings hands. Okay, the
other one was suspect. But what are you doing? It's
thirty and I think this game was a very poorly,
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poorly coach game by Shady, very bad from taking the
time out before half. What were you doing? He takes
a time out after they get a first down.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, I think he had all the confidence in the
world that if we got the ball back, all we
had to do is go fifteen yards.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
If you look at the time, there's a minute thirty left. Right,
they got a first down and he takes the time out.
That doesn't make it if they didn't get the first down,
I get it. They got a first down and he
took a time out. It's like, what are you taking
a time out for? There's a minute thirty left to
have the ball in the fifty What do you think
you're doing? And then he takes the final timeout and
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gives green Bay, green Bay, sorry, Chicago a chance before
the half. He takes a final timeout give Chicago a
chance to put in a perfect play when we needed
that time out for our best player, Brandon Aubrey to
get on the field and kick an eighty hour Fieldal.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean look to your point with the Dak
Prescott thing, Like you know, we spoke about it. We've
talked about this so many times on the show about
how how you feel Keith that Dak isn't the type
of quarter isn't the type of quarterback that could put
the game on his back and say, come on, boys,
I'm putting my cape on.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
In regards to that last week, he did that right,
And I'm and I'm thinking to myself, even down this
week when we were down early fourteen six, I'm like,
you know what, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm not totally going crazy about this yet.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Like, yes, the plays leading up the strip on Javonte,
like a lot of the things that did it, you know,
could go wrong, did go wrong. But then we scored
and we're like, I'm like, okay, now, now did I
agree with chasing points at that point fourteen twelve? You
go for two that early, I'm like, nah, just kick you.
They are aggressive. They went for two and they tied
the game. And I'm like, all right, you know what
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got ourselves a new ball game here, new lease on life.
But to your point, the secondary has not changed. Deron
Bland should not be the reason you're giving up all
this stuff, right, Like, and I understand that, Like injuries happen.
We're down over shown, we're down a couple of these guys.
We don't you know, we make the signing for Clowney.
He's not in there yet, right, so we're sitting there like,
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all right, well it's the Bears and they've struggled defensively.
They had half their guys out, they got one guy
in I r and all of a sudden, we can't
score points on them either.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And I'm like, well, Jesus Christ, like is it? Where
does it stop?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And I'm not when I say I'm not blaming Dak,
I'm not saying the offense was awesome either.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No, they were.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Now Okay, hold on, bro, I wanted to say one
thing before. I just want to get one thing out.
We were four of eleven on third down.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's not good enough.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
In the first half. After the offense was doing their job,
our defense just was not. And you know, our offense
played good enough, I'd say, until the game got away
with us. It's like, you know more towards the end
of the third quarter, we were moving the ball or
doing what we were supposed to do. It's the defense
just fucking blows. I mean, there was nothing and then
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they're like, stop the run. We couldn't even stop the run, dude.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We did stop the running.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
We did stop the run again when we need.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Look, man, there was that one play where.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
There's going to be one breakaway. Bro, It's going to happen.
I mean, all in all, they had eighty yards rushing.
I mean, it's pretty damn both they passed. How many
times did they pass versus how many times did they rush? No,
I don't know, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, look, if you're new here, which obviously, like
I said, we don't go live all the time, but
there's an almost one hundred people watching right now as
we're all venting together for this this Monday.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
But the issue, the biggest issue I have.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Is, like you said, Keith, the play calling was very odd.
You're inside the two, right, you have it. You have
a running back who is averaging no bullshit, he had
ten carriers for seventy six yards. That means he's averaging
seven point six yards of carry if you're inside the five.
Guess what to him? It was gonna He's gonna score.
(09:20):
And you know that's the troubling part. But even more
so when you and I tweeted this yesterday and I
told you guys like we actually have a running game,
which is weird to say. We haven't been able to
say that since Prime zeke right, and I'm sitting there
like we're wasting away. And then on top of that,
you have in your playbook we've seen it. You have
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packages for a guy like Cavante Turpin out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We have packages for that. We've seen it.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Why on earth are you putting your best player on
offense in the backfield on a stupid whatever the hell
they want to call him. It's never worked, and now
it's cost us our number one receiver for the foreseeable
three to three to five weeks, three to six weeks
Like that is that's that's bush league bullshit. That came
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from shoddy And again I'm a shoddy guy, but this
is that's that's unforgivable kind of shit.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
That third quarter hold on that third quarter, that's the
what I'm talking about. That drive the Bears had, the
time they took most of the quarter on the drive
they kept getting mostly it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Was like a fourteen play drive, right or something.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Couldn't stop them. Here's here's the sad part. We we
had a time of possession over them, right, they had
twenty seven minutes. And then the craziest part was is
we ran more plays than them, so well.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You don't have to run plays when you're getting these
big chunks.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
They had fifty seven total plays and put up thirty
one fucking points, ten less plays than we did. And
we put up fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well they had the big plays, they had the twenty
plus plays which they call splash.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Plays, and and and again, efficiency they were eight out
of fourteen at fifty that's like a fifty seven on
third down. And like Keith stated earlier, we were three
four eleven, so one hundred and fourth downs.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But so but you look at that one driver talking
about too bro. Four of those third downs they converted
was on that drive, which is crazy. I know, right
at that, I at that is that that that's the
crazy part. But I meant if you looking at the
going back to shady is and this is why I
didn't want to you know, I haven't been and I
still haven't been saying. I said, he needs to prove
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it to me before I say he's a good coach
because of all the reasons I said, how Clemson got
rid of him. The first thing they did, he he
left the NFL. They finally got him back, he got
demoted to the video room. I mean, all this stuff
that happened to him. I mean, I'm I'm exaggerating there.
That's why I'm like, Okay, why hasn't this guy been
a head coach? And the first two games decently coached,
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not fantastic decent. This was awful. I mean this is
an f for the the for what we were talking
about starch with the third and goals and not running,
I meant his stupid. I mean, we bro look at
how many times have we run over? Did we pass?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So you know what's even crazier Keith to that point,
do you We're sitting there like, do we think Gravante
Williams is Marshaan Lynch?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But do you want to riddle me this?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Do you know who called the pass in the Super Bowler?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Way, dude, there's another thing. The is another reason. Yeah,
he likes he likes doing those little those those kind
of plays. Man. It's like you know, and and if
you look at them at Javonte, man, that's one more
person I said I didn't know too much of and
I didn't. And you actually starts like, I think he's
gonna do good. I think he's gonna do good. I
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think I got faith in him. I never him. Now
that I see him, Oh my god, is he running?
And look that fumble that he had was a great
play by the Bears. That was a fantastic play.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Do you also, I know, I know it's hard to
see like in real time, and I'm sure you didn't
watch the condensed version yet maybe it did, maybe you won't.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But like the All twenty two, the film is out
and Isaiah Stanbeck pointed this out, and all the guys
I'm talking cowboys pointed this out. Is that there's a
certain wide receiver that didn't finish his blocks all the
way through. And the only reason why there's a guy
to rip that ball out is because Jalen Tolbert stopped
on the play.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Seeah, I didn't know that, that's all.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You can't have that right, And now you're looking at
Jalen Tolbert as wide receiver too going forward for the
next month.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's like this is we got kickings, he's got he's
got a good he's got a badass receiver.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Sorry, meant it's not like we're in the dark.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
No, we ran the ball twenty times and we passed
forty five times.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's not not a you're also playing from behind, so
that's the.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Whole But that's the whole thing. When I was watching
the game, I kept saying every time, like, guys, take
your time, take your time. We get the ball at half,
it's twenty seven, it's twenty four to fourteen the past.
It's like, dude, we're not that far behind. Play your game,
play your game, offense, take your time, go down the
field and let's see if we can get a stop.
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But no, and you're bringing the shitty defense right back
out three.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And ow all right, yea was more balanced, man. They
passed twenty eight times and ran twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, we couldn't be a balanced offense considering we're playing
from behind. So that's how that works. That's the recipe
for that. But so you know, there's not many positives
to take away from this. You're looking at the secondary
Keith and it's the same usual suspects as it's been.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, unfortunately Gavone Clark was back. He really, oh my god,
he got showed his ass. Yeah, and again, I don't
like calling out bad players, but I also call out effort.
I'm an effort guy. If you're going balls to the wall,
just like Javante, if you're putting your head down and
you're running as hard as humanly possible, I'm not going
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to fault you for being stuffed behind a line. Sometimes
that's an offensive line thing. Sometimes you just miss a
block whatever. But like there was one play where I'm
watching Clark pursue and then him just looking look at them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's not his position. I think he'd be a better
safety personally, but I mean, he is not a good linebacker.
And I keep saying that. I mean, I know he
shines in pads. When I say pads, as we say
what shoulder pads and short shells, Yeah, that's right, but
I meant, you know, I know he shines that, and
everyone's like, oh, he's having a great camp. And I
kept saying, let's get him in a live action game
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and let's see, let's.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
And then it was but it was even more false
hope when he played good in the preseason and everybody's like, oh,
all right, yeah, let's see that we might actually have
a guy here, and it's like, you're, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
We have the same players. We pretty much have the
same players, except we don't have Micah Parsons. So I
meant we were people think if we have Mike of
the same result would have happened, because it was happening
last year. It was happening last year with Micah Parsons.
So I mean, there's no, that's not the issue. The
issue is is most of our I think it's our
players on defense, particularly our secondary and and and I
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would say Clark and linebacker right now, that's that's our problem.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Are we still are we still stuck in this again?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Like we could talk about Molly Hooker was known in
the NFL before he got the Dallas But like guys
like Donovan Wilson and all these other guys, if you
asked around the league, like, ah, you know, we got
to worry about like like who does the opposing fan
or the opposing you know, guy that's watching film.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Who do they have to worry.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
About on defense right now when it comes to the secondary,
And the answer is nobody, right. The answer is there's
not a soul on that defense right now, and specifically
in the secondary that I'm like game prepping for or
throw the ball the other side, or we only have
we only have.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Some hope when overshell.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Comes back and then we but it might be too late.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Then let me finish that we have no hope. There's
we have very little. Even if Revel gets in, we
don't know what the hell he can do. We have
to look at it. This game was very important in
deciding how the season was going to go, right because
this was kind of like the Giants game was kind
of like the Ravens game last year, Game three, but
we ended up beating the Giants. This was like the
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Saints game, which we played two last year. Now this is,
you know, the third game where there this game would
have said, okay, do we make the adjustments we Two
and one is way different than one and two, especially
with Green Bay coming in. You know what I mean,
You're it's just not It's going to be a long season.
So we I think right now the coaches start putting
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in younger players and start to say, hey, who do
we have. You can't salvage this season. It's done. There's nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, we can't sleep well, all right. So first of.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
All, I'm not going to go I'm not going to
go that far.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, well, let them keep talking, go ahead, I'll eight till
you finish.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
No, because there's we're not there's no way, there's no
way that we just salvage this season, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So this is what I say for you. You're talking
about the Saints game actually would have been the Giants game,
and this would have been the Ravens game.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And then no, because the Ravens and Giants game Cowboys
game was close, but the Ravens beat us. We happened to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Win and have no I'm just saying no because you
were saying Week three. I'm saying last year we got
our asses kicked by the Saints. This is the Saints,
and we got our asses kicked by the Ravens. I
don't care what that score said. It was twenty four
to three in the fourth. Listen, listen, hold on.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So this is what I say.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's not to me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This is a thing about talent and and once again,
and intelligence. Okay, I would find the defensive backs, I
don't care where they are, practice squad, whatever. I would
find the ones that understand the defense the most, understand
where to be in placement and put them in. That's
what that That is the best way out of that.
That's the only thing I can think of, because we
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can't roll out the same secondary because it destroyed.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So a lot of people are talking about communication in
the first couple of weeks, right, are they lacking communication
on the field itself? Now you look at one specific
play yesterday right where or a couple of weeks ago, where.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
The cornerback might break the huddle.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
And this is something I'm taking straight from the internet,
straight from Talking Cowboys, straight from Bobby Belt on the
one oh five to three to fan where the huddle
is broke and the defense is called.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You guys know this.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You both play defense when you have a car. Right
this play, we're playing cover two. Ready break right, you
get into your position of cover two. Whatever you're thinking of,
what's going to happen, what's going to play out next?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Check?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You could check out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Something.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
So something happens and the guy with the green helmet,
green dot on the defense needs to check to cover
three now because of whatever circumstance, either or whatever. If
if not all eleven guys hear this or see this
adjustment made, they are going to think they're still in
the same coverage.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Meaning it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
No no no meaning meaning if you switch to a
cover three and all of a sudden, the corner whether
it be it could be, it could be Elam right,
this is the specific thing that they were talking about today.
If Elam doesn't see that there's been a switch made.
He now thinks, don't worry, I got over the top.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Help.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I got what you were saying. It doesn't work that way.
So if I'm yelling check check two, check two, everybody
repeats it, and then they'll be like, yo, yo yo,
get the slock, get the slot. You know you're communicating
right with each other before the snack. Unless you're just
standing there looking up, you're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what Keith's point.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Is what I'm saying is if there's no if there's
a lack of communication, and somebody like an Elam thinks, okay,
it's the same defense.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Is what.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We just broke the huddle.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I didn't see the communication. I didn't see the flair.
I didn't see the the hey check check can't, can't.
I didn't see any of that. I'm gonna think I
got help over the top. And when the guy goes
burning by me, I'm not so worried because I got
Hooker back there, and Hooker's not there. At point, what
I'm seeing a complete breakdown.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
See at the NFL, it's not so much the communication,
it's thencred it's desynchronization. So like in other words, if
he knows, if he knows that you know, uh, you're
supposed to be covering, Say you're playing zone, and then
you may have two people fuck up and then pick
up the same guy, leaving one open, or somebody doesn't
go over a deep third. They all know on the
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field what the coverage is. They all know what the
play is. There's no fucking way they can't. Well, if
you've got Sanborn running running uh, you know, point or whatever,
and he's making the calls, everybody repeats it. Everybody knows,
and you're communicating with h you know, in code with
each other in the line the whole fucking time. Nobody's
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just quiet.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So all right, So I raise you this, is there
a possibility at the NFL level, which is being talked
about a lot today specifically in our world, is there
a possibility that some of these guys just don't know
what it is?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, it's Keith hit it. It could be it's a
talent things, it's a player thing. And then you know
and there is a breakdown like that last against the Giants,
I thought they were in fucking zone and they were
in cover three because Dix was so far out of position.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You know, it's it's it's something that doesn't even mean.
We don't even need to break it down. The numbers
tell you. I meant. Russell Wilson throws for almost five
hundred yards. Guys, listen to me. He barely broke one
fifty week one, and he has zero touchdowns. In any
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other game, he has more interceptions than he has touchdowns.
Because he has zero touchdowns, we made him look all world.
And then you have Caleb Williams and now all the
Bears fans because and that's another thing that bothers me.
We had this like fictitious eliteness about us, like when
a team beats us, all of a sudden, they think
they're great now. And I got Bears fans texting me
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and messing with me, Oh see we're It's like, dude,
we suck. You didn't meet anybody, We haven't done shit anyways.
And Kayla Williams has got that swag about him, like
see I told you, yeah, wait till next week when
you do play a defense that knows how to secondary
that's gonna intercept you three times. My old thing is
that right there just tells the story. Last year we
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thought Derek Carr and that Saints offense was a jogger.
And I still remember Bret gone, let's give them their flowers,
give them their dues. They're a great team. Guess what
what happened? Yeah, but they didn't do shit after that. No,
the Saints didn't do everything. It's our defense. I mean,
it's our secondary. It's so many things you can't put
your finger on. And what it comes down is to talent, too.
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Is the talent on the field, that's it. Because now now,
all right, so look, you can't keep chasing coaches out
of town. We got rid of Dan Quinn, right, who
goes to an NFC championship last year. We got rid
of a freaking Zimmer who was one of the best
defensive coordinators in the history of the NFL. You could say,
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I'm at top ten. Maybe we get rid of him saying, oh,
it's his fault. Now we got another guy who got
a head coaching gig strictly on playing being a defensive coordinator. Right,
and now we're about, oh we got to get rid
of him.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Now, Well, look that's the knee jerk reaction to every
Dallas Cowboys fan, Maybe not yourself. Keith but I'm saying,
like to me, yeah, I'm like, leave Evra Post in Chicago, right,
like obviously, And that's the thing with Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You have to start being a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The Dallas Cowboys are not going to make a mid
season change anywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They're not going to do that. They're not going to
fire ebra Flues. Just doesn't happen historically, It hasn't happened.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
So everybody needs the let that go right. What I'm
saying is, Keith, are we like we're getting clowny this
week to start?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
He's gonna be back, He's gonna help out the defensive
end rotation.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Maybe he gets a little bit more pass rush Bland hopefully.
I don't know. He has to practice this week to
see what's going on with him. But are they like?
What are is this Cowboys team has assembled right now?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Because remember, Jerry Jones is gonna spit the diary out
of his mouth to make you feel like he thinks
that this team has a lot of potential still and
they can make the adjustments and they'll show up to
play and it's all coach speak, owners speak.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Whatever he said, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Of course he is going to say that, and that's
that's fine. But what I'm thinking is, and what I'm
asking you is, is this Dallas Cowboys defense one trade
away from being average? Or is this like a whole
We gotta fucking unload on everybody because we have the
assets to do it if they want to do it now.
And Jerry is trying to politic his way into saying, Hey,
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this is a playoff team, don't worry about where we're
gonna be ready to play. Well, then you got to
make a choice because now and I don't care how
much he's gonna hold onto these draft picks like they're
a fucking luxury item and they're yes, are they good
to have?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Sure first round picks? Of course?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
But like are he says he's going to make those
necessary moves right now to make this team competitive.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Are we one player away on defense?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So what is the point? What's the point of making
a trade right now? Huh?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Search likes to make statements in the form of questions.
All right, so you asked the question that you just
go you're rambling.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Sorry, that's all. So this is my therapy for the day, Bret.
So it'll be easy. All right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
My whole thing with that is we have the same secondary, right,
we have the same secondary, and and that is our
downfall right now. So shit, all right, anyways, I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, Keith's gonna take a little bit of a break.
He's he's caught up.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
But last year, let me finish his point because I
know where he was going. It's personnel, bro and and
it's not one player that's gonna that's gonna fix it.
And remember last year we were like, man, we can't
put our finger. We don't know what it is. I mean,
we're just a bad team. And and you know, just
because people get hyped up doesn't mean they're good. Like
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Diggs is not a good corner. He's not a good corner.
I don't know if he's injured. He had that one
good season, you know what I mean, hasn't been the
same since we don't have a team. We had four
or five jersey sellers, and our O line plays as
a unit. I like our old line, you know. But
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last year, like you know, I was just in Dallas
this weekend and in the airport, and I see all
the jerseys of players that are trash.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
You know what I mean, I remember because in Dallas
they sell everybody ship at the airports.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Who you are is the only.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
One that I would I would I would buy maybe CD.
You know, I don't wear other guys. I'm just being hypothetical,
but I remember last year they had Pollard jerseys Tony Pollard,
and you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And I mean, we m for the Cowboys. They're a
marketing juggernaut. We all know this, right, if you're a
Cowboys fan, you're understanding of this.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
It's so stirchy for we all have different perspectives, right,
I look at it as as the team. It's like
last year when I when we beat the Browns, I
was like, this isn't a this isn't a good team.
We weren't moving the ball. And then and then the
next week against the Saints, we're like, all right, Then
when the Ravens game happened, we won, but we looked awful.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right, Well, we didn't win that game, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
We lost, but we we we got the ship. We
got the ship beat out of us, and I'm sorry.
The Giant game came. We won that, and then I
think we beat Pittsburgh and we're like, Okay, we look
like a team.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We we we don't.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
We haven't looked.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We didn't look like a team all last year. We
don't look like a team this year.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I said it now. I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I said it to Keith, and I said it on
Twitter today. This has eerily like, eerily familiar twenty twenty vibes.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It does.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It just feels like, you know, you had a historically
bad defense in twenty twenty, right then you with this
improbable win against the Falcons. Are improbable win this year
came against the Giants. We're not supposed to win that game, right,
but they do. They pull it out of their ass.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Great.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Now the next week, you know, in the Cowboys I
believe the Cowboys Giants game, or maybe two weeks from then,
we lose Dak for the year, breaks his ankle. The
season's over. It's a wash, bad defense, bad quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Play, the whole thing just goes away. It's horrible.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Now we lose Ceede lamb Our number one receiver. Now,
while Keith said, all is not lost when it comes
to the receiver possession because you have a George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And he is a dog. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I like the way this dude plays, and again, slamming
your helmet on the sidelines to me just shows you
give a shit. We didn't get penalized for it, right
you mean like so that's I'm not worried about that.
But I don't think the sky has fallen completely yet.
Like you said before, the season was washed. Well this week,
well that's in lies. The problem now in not in
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my opinion, is weird as this sounds like it would
be the Cowboys brand, and so Cowboys if we went
out on Sunday Night Football, no CD LAMB, Michael Parsons
return and we win that game.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Do I think that's gonna happen. No, I don't think
it's going to be close. But what I will say
is to the.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Giants would have jumped up on us like like the
bit and think of it. These are two of the
worst not worst teams, but lower teams in the NFL.
So the Giants would have jumped up on us by
probably two touchdowns if it wasn't for those penalties. You know,
you know what I mean, Because those penalties still didn't
affect that play. It wasn't like a defensive offs of
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holding play on the in the secondary, you know what
I mean, these these were well what's his name? Though,
Scatterboo fucking broke one had to bring it back. They
should have been up on us by fourteen points, right,
But that was a great game. I'm glad we want it,
but we didn't look like a good team and we're
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this just fell apart. I mean, this was just fucking gross.
It wasn't it was. It's unfathomable to have on the
field again, arguably, uh, top paid quarterback, top paid receiver,
top paid, you know, and nothing we got nothing. Even
Diggs is overpaid.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Like I said last night, I think Jerry's even he
realized that too.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But yeah, to me, I feel like, as long as
Dak Prescott is upright and is healthy, they're gonna be competitive.
And I don't mean that in a way where like, oh,
we're gonna be in every game. I just mean we're
not gonna fucking lay over and die.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
We're gonna like last year. It's gonna be a lot
like last year. Might well.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Like I told you, and I told Jesse Holly on
this episode a couple of weeks ago that I looked
at this as the twenty twenty four Bengals. Right, score
points not enough points though, you know what I mean, Like,
you could score in the thirties and it might not
be enough because of the defense being historically bad. And
I just don't think, you know, I don't think the
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sky is falling per se, but I think that this
is at least a gut punch and a wake up
call to if we do have a good coach, which
I hope we really do, that adjustments will be made.
Now does that mean telling Abra Flues you know, you
better write this ship or you're out of here too.
Or is he gonna be like a you know, it's
growing pains. It's a new system. It's just that and
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the third and I think that's the the piss poor
way to go about it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
We got a comment coming in from YouTube. Everybody's talking
about our week defense. What about our shoddy dak led
field goal offense versus the Giants and Bears two here?
All right, So he's basically saying Dak is mid. All right, Well,
that's not correct. I mean, he's playing going into this
game they were talking about and again it's two weeks.
I get it, but they're going in saying he's playing
the position better than most guys in the right look.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
To answer his point, Dak is not an elite, but
he's not the problem so far this year, right right.
I mean, he played a hell of one of the
best games against the Eagles, did what he had to
do against the Giants. I mean, if we were to
make a wish and say, dear, you know, hey, if
a genie said you got one wish to fix any
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aspect of this game of your team this season, we'd
all go secondary.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, right, like that's I'm not I'm not going to
sit there and say like, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
He's always the problem. He's always been the problem.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Like I think people just when you got that star
on your helmet, your your persona is going to be
larger than life regardless this season.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
But this season, yeah thatk Dak's.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Not the problem. Dak is not the problem this year.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And I don't Yeah, Keith, sorry, just coming in and
say a comment from ghost Face Gaming came in and
said that that Dak was Dak and the field goal
led team is the problem.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I we that's not an agreement.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This is what I would say, though, I meant and
I know you brought up last week with with Dak
and I know we said he threw the team on
his back. Eh, he did a great job. But I meant,
you don't. We don't have Aubrey, we don't win that game. Man.
Well there is Let's be honest, if we don't have Aubrey,
we're not kicking a sixty five yard field goal and
they're going to have to get closer and all those
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kinds of things you know, doing doing.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, but there's a he's doing his job. That's exactly
he's doing his job.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. So see, the whole thing is is that when
when you're down, when you're down like like Dak was,
it takes him out of his game with the play
calling and all those kind of things.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So if it could be a relatively close game and
we're driving down the field, I mean, that's that's he could,
you know, But I mean you just can't. You can't
let offenses score like they're scoring. You just can't.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
So basically, just based off of what we've said in
the first thirty five minutes of this show is that
it's definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
A personnel thing, correct.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, On defense, it has to be right, like, so
this isn't the first And again this is to all
those leave Eberflus on the bus in Chicago. Fire him now,
fire them now, and I'll listen. I'm on that train too.
I'm like, man, this guy can't coach his way out
of a paperback. But at the same time, this isn't
the first time a defense has switched coordinators. And like,
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when you switch coordinators, it's typically because they stink or
it's a whole new regime. Right, So when McCarthy leaves,
so does the rest of his staff, so you have
to hire your own guys. So this is a complete
We went from man to zone and it's just not
working out based off the players that are on the
field exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And that's the thing. I don't know why everyone wants
to get a Berthless out right, a ferbolous is because
of it doesn't make any sense. And that you look
at Quinn's defense against Green Bay, the same thing happened
or secondary got destroyed in the playoffs. And then you
go the next year, not only the Saints and everyone
other teams are teeing off on this same defense with
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Mike Zimmer And now you've got another defensive coordinator. Like
I said, it's not the defensive coordinator, it's not him. Okay,
so basically what what what when I just learned this
what a Burthless wants is he loves having for linemen, right.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I can't think these areas when you like completely butcher
his name on purpose look ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But he loves having for down linemen. He likes getting
to the quarterback then and then it's up to this
to the other seven players to drop in the coverage
and be in the correct spot or to understand how
the this isn't working with them because like I said,
I don't think it's a talent. I'm saying their talent.
It's an intelligence thing. It's it's it's something else smart. Yeah,
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football smarts. I don't think that. I don't think that
is there. You know, if you if you if what's up.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
That's why I get that test to quarterbacks, the winner
lick tests.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, it's a football I Q.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So that give the defense.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
So that's another thing that was said today one oh
five to three defan which is kind of alarming. Maybe
it's coming off this loss, so people are kind of
spewing a lot of negativity and hatred. But he said
that if you took the Dallas Cowboys secondary, a local
high like a local high school secondary, and then a
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college secondary, and you gave them all the same defensive
scheme tests, that Dallas would score the lowest of all
the defense Dallas Cowboys would score the lowest.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
When it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Because some of these these plays, these guys are by themselves,
A lot of them. They were they were showing the
range between their comedy steps. They were receiver is from
the defensive back. It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
But in any event, so obviously, if you're listening to
us for the first time, you can find the Jersey
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Sports Media over there on YouTube. Subscribe that would be awesome.
We're three dudes. We talk football. The x's and o's
are there. We have former players on here. We have
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Jesse Holly that vow just for us. We have other
content creators that vouch for us that you know, we're
just we're trying to establish ourselves as the fan that's
sitting on the couch watching the game. Right, And there's
a lot of x's and o's and shit, and we
know the game. We've all played the game, so we get.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Next level, but you know we're familiar with it, right.
We all have a different take. I try to be
grounded in reality. My brother tends to be more cynical.
I try to take it week by week. And that's
why I said, if we really had a good performance
against the against the Bears, I'd be optimistic about the
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season if we made those adjustments. I meant, and again,
the offense did their job most of the time before
they got jumped ahead on I mean that that that
changes the whole game plan.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know, it's like, oh, of course, and you again
you lost your best offensive weapon in Ceedee Lamb. Yeah,
think about it like this too, Brett.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
The two games that we'd have lost already, and Patrick
Walker brought this up today. The two games that we
have lost, once to Philly and now obviously to Chicago.
Ceede Lamb was the culprit for two different reasons. He
was dropping balls in the first game and now he's
not available in this game. And you could tell the
difference in these games when you're superstar receivers not there. Now,
could George Pickens be the guy to come back and
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pick up the slack and and you know, cover for
his boys.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I think that's that's going to grow.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The camaraderie between the two I'm talking about Dak and
George Pickens can grow. They've they've connected on touchdowns already
this season. So that that's a thing, right, We've all
seen it. But can it be on a consistent basis?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Is?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Now are we the teams now only have to prep
for one threat, where as going into the first two
weeks you're prepping for two threats. Chicago was depleted, depleted
in the secondary, and yet they still played a good ballgame,
specifically because Ceedee Lamb is out. Now you know have
Ceedee Lamb going forward. So now that the Green Bay
Packers are licking their chops right now, knowing that they're
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gonna rush the passer better than anybody.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Else, now us up.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, I mean, I don't live in delusional land, right
I do. I think like I said, and I said
this on Twitter, it's a matter of just like, ooh,
wouldn't it be so Dallas esque if they won this game?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Because nobody wants them to win, or nobody's predicting them
to win. That's all fun, right, it's all fun to
talk about. But I don't think there's a realistic possibility
that the Cowboys can run with a team like the Packers,
who are coming off a shitty loss. Right, they're gonna
be pissed off. Michaeh Parson's coming home. There's only going
to be one of the two ways that this game
can go. Either the Packers beat the ship out of us, right,
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or we somehow pull out a miracle.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There will be no other way. There won't be a.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Dallas runaway game. That's the only two scenarios that could
play out.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
The problem. The problem with Dallas is and is everybody
wants to beat you because they hate you, and rightfully so.
I mean, you know, we're still the talk of the
We well, we have three national.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Games on it and pay for the NFL sun they
take it for no reason whatsoever. So far we've been
on national TV.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, and we'll be on again. I mean, you know,
there's always a storyline. You know, everybody, Mike is coming home. Uh,
you know, it's it's just no team is going to
take us lightly everybody wants to beat us.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
There's not that's been a thing forever. Yeah, everybody is
green Bay is going to come in.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
They they're coming off a loss. Uh, they're gonna be
riled up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Six point six point favorites on the road, they are.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, they would be ten points favorites if we were
in Green.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Bay, right, double, that's a two score favorite. That's insanity
in September.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Like, I can understand that if that spread is made
against a Saints team who just look really bad or like,
that's really all the teams I could think of on
the top of my.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Head, that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Gie.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
We are that team. That's what people, that's that this
game showed we are that type of team. We don't
have the personnel, we don't have the team play, we
don't have it. We have a chance because of our offense.
I mean, we got a good running back and a
good quarterback. We've got Pickens. Tobird isn't much. I mean,
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you know, turpens a weapon. Our O lion is doing well.
Our d line we got nobody. Our secondary is just awful.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean you would you would help, you would
hope that clowney. The addition of Clowney helps with the rotation.
I'm not expecting Clowney to go out there and be
a world beater.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It's not it's not going to happen. And then the
only great thing we have is Aubrey. We're not a
good team, man, We're not a good team.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I mean this is and again this can go back
to what Vegas was predicting as far as a win
lost total.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Right sitting there around seven and I was like, what
are you thinking? Nuts? Maybe they know a little bit
more than I do. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
We look good against the Eagles. We gave that game
away and it's the first game of the season, so okay,
you chalk it up to jitters. But we looked good.
And then we came against the Giants, looked like shit.
Got lucky on some penalties they should have been up.
We'll just give him another ten and plus. By the way,
if he goes for it takes the three on that
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fourth and two, we lose the game.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
But we didn't.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
We fought hard. We won in overtime. Dak played good.
He did his job right. It's not like that's what
people forget. He did his job by not throwing interceptions
and getting first downs. I mean, we didn't getting the
end zone as much as we wanted to, but he
did his job. And then this week we come in,
we got a fucking average Bears team that ran us out. Man,
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they ran us the fuck out. We did nothing, absolutely nothing,
and our said again, they played good. If the defense
did their job, it would have been a control game.
I mean, we tied it at one point and then
it just got away from us, and and uh, you
know that we're just not a good team. And now
Green Bay's coming in and they're gonna light our ass up.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Boy watch Now I'm trying to think, like in the
grand scheme of things, if I say if, because nobody
really knows, we can all assume that the Packers will
come in and just spark us. Right, if that happens
and there's three weeks in a row of just secondary
getting mangled, like while I say historically they've never made
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it in season change, But Brett, do you think that
that could be a thing.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It needs to be.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It needs to we say needs to be. Do you
think it could actually happen?
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Though, Well, it depends. It depends on where the problems are. Man,
you know.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I mean, we've already addressed the problems, like we don't.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
What do we have?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
I mean, like I agree with my brother. You just
have guys in there that know know the know the
the defense or can read the offense better, you know,
make the adjustments and start going with younger guys. Man,
I mean, we got to get I want to see
Florin Oi in there. I want to see Mosey Tatupu
and then Leahfu in there. I want, you know, let's
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see some more younger guys. Just get him in.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I think there was a certain there was a certain
moment yesterday where I was like, ooh, they had enough.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
And that's when Yanye Thomas was in there.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Like I was like, oh wait a minute, Like they
told Donovan Wilson take a seat, pal, you know what
I mean? Like so and maybe, and I don't even
want to say the game was ever out of reach
until the very very end, when all of a sudden
it was seventeen and we had one drive to go
down there and there's another interception. But like I feel
like there's a there's definitely a culture change when it
comes to making sure that you're doing your job when
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Sam Williams was penalized early in that game.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
He was taken out and benched for a little while.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Jaden Blue, Maurice LEYAFU Like, none of these guys are
getting burned right now, and we're wondering why I can't
tell you. I'm not in the locker room right and
the reporters can't tell you because the NFL locker rooms
are usually tight knit when it comes.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
To stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
But like if if basically the Exchanges and Keiths probably
agree with this, I would rather have the high IQ
less talented guys out there than the more like that's
what I'm bringing talent athletes who don't know what the
fuck are doing.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, agree, I mean you need some talent out there,
don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah, no, I get that part.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
But I'm saying, like, if you had a choice between
Diggs and let's just say a ready start right and
he knows the fucking defense, and I'm like, hey, Trayvon, dude,
have a seat, bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Like and again, hey listen, I hate to do this,
but I got to give you my score right now.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
All right, Yeah, let's let's wrap it up anyway, because
there's not much. They just brutalize here.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
There's no way in hell I'm taking the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
You piece what I saw.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I bet Jordan love, especially if there's no changes in
the secondary. I mean, they will pick us apart. I
don't think we can keep up with them. I think
maybe it's close in the first quarter a little bit,
sort of like this Bears game. Maybe, but at the end,
I'm going to say forty two or forty nine to
fourteen maybe or seventeen. Oh my god, yeah, that's what
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I say.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
If it's forty nine to fourteen then and a change
de Troit game.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Remember when Detroit destroyed us last year.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I see it like that kind of yeah, you know
the head coach that the coordinator was Ben Johnson again.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
But I'm just saying, though we got the same defense,
same defense, the same defense is there that Jordan love
even and we're worse than we were because we don't
have Mike and de Marcus. So just use your common sense.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Good times in Dallas, all right, keep get out here.
Good to your big bro. Brett will throw it to you.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
As far as a score prediction, we got forty nine
to fourteen, which is an absolute throttling.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
What do you got.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I was gonna go with that analogy with the Detroit
game last year, where we came in and we're like,
all right, you know, we got a chance. If it
wasn't on paper, it should be I'll go thirty five,
maybe thirty.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Seven to ten, thirty seven to ten, Okay, Yeah, I
for one think that they're yeah, they're not going to
win the game.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I don't see it'll be a thirteen.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
I say, Aubrey kicks ninety.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yard from the opposite of twenty. Yeah. So I mean, look,
I want the Cowboys to be competitive.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I want them to compete every day, if that's the mantra,
But like, I don't see a path if they the
only way they win this game is if it's low scoring,
it's because we're running the football very well and we've
got a couple of lucky bounces.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I don't want to see the Cowboys if the Cowboys
give up a forty burger at home again and they
don't do anything to address it. And I don't want
to hear about trading. I don't want to hear about
new players coming in or we're gonna get healthy, don't worry.
Help is on the way.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Like it's not right.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
So I'd rather I'd rather lose this game in a
fashion where they were in it and there's signs of hope.
So give me the Packers to win this game thirty
one to twenty, or maybe we get a garbage touchdown.
We're down thirty one to thirteen, we score at the
end and that's the end of that. But yeah, I
don't see a path of the Cowboys to win the game.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Listen, Micah does well against bad teams, and we're a
bad team, so then so that beat Micah Parsons, who
might feast on his former brothers.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
But we'll see, we shall see again.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
If this is your first time tuning in to a
live broadcast, we don't do live all the time, but
we did definitely have a solid surge of downloads, so
if you want to search us out on iTunes, Spotify,
anding like that. We record usually Mondays or tuesdays of
the following games. It's Dave Stercio. It is nationally known
comedian Brett Ernst. You know him from Cobra Kai. You
know him for his stand up comedy and of course
(50:16):
Keith is a super fan who we love and adore
so very much, and he will give you the hard
truths and be the grinch around Christmas time when it's
absolutely apparent and necessary. So for that, Let's go Cowboys.
I guess we'll see what happens. We'll see if they
can hold on.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
I'll be tuning in and I'll have that LRS, that
little ten year old inside of me, hope, and then
I'll just start yelling at the I'll be traveling again.
I'm in San Jose this I'm in in Sunny Vale,
California this week. And during the game, no, no, no,
I'll be traveling on Sunday, And just like yesterday, I
(50:55):
was watching the airport. I went to Dallas. I had
to lay over timed out so I can watch the game.
It's just uh yeah, yeah, It's gonna be a long season, buddy.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
We shall see.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
So with that being said, this has been another episode
of the Jersey Boys Podcast. You can find us on
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see our faces. If not, you can always download the
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you guys for listening and watching. Let's Go Cowboys, Let's
pull out a miracle. Huh, Dad's coming home after all.
You never know, see you guys later.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Enjoy well whatever.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
All right, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Jersey Boys Podcast.
Dave Starti alongside nationally known comedian Brett Ernston. Of course
his brother Keith, America's fan the Grinch himself. But we're
gonna be doing a whole lot of grinching today. I
got a feeling. I just feel like we're all gonna
be grinching today.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I'm not even mad. It's just depressing, that's all. Yeah, addressing.
There's nothing to be angry about. There's nothing that's gonna
be fixed. It's gonna be a long season.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Man, all right. That' where we're at.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
So we're gonna talk to you guys next week on
the Jersey Boys Podcast.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Like I said starch last week, that this game was
going to determine a lot. I mean, we look great
against the Eagles, we gave it away. We pulled one
out against the Giants, a game we should have won,
which good teams win games are supposed to. We saw
the defensive breakdowns. Secondary was atrocious, and then we're the
worst defense in the NFL, and I don't know how
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we could fix it again. The breakdown in our secondary
is just it's disgusting. There's no other word. I mean,
there was another two long balls they just caught. You know,
I don't know, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, it's all good. Keith.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Obviously nobody could see your screen name, but you came
on to this today as putting sleepwalker or sleepwalk king
or I'm sorry, sleepwalking, just straight up sleepwalkings.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Listen to me, sleepwalk King. Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I said that the Cowboys could sleepwalk their way to
nine wins and a pair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
This was after the I don't remember the timing of that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It was after the Parsons trade. After And that's why
I'm not coming down on you know. I just like
poking fun. But this is why I was the way
I was after the Eagles game. How I just couldn't
because we have the same players. I kept saying that,
and we do. I mean, look when I say the
same players I'm talking about the secondary. I went back
(02:23):
to that Saints game where Derek Carr had a career
game against US. It seems like all these average quarterbacks
have career games against our secondary, same secondary, except Cason
was there. They were they were all there. Yeah, I
met Malie Hooker, Wilson Higgs, and Bland was the one
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that was injured. But it doesn't matter. It's the same thing.
And this is what it comes down to. Okay. And
and Nick Eatman had an article where he's more blamed
in the past. Rush. I'm not okay because I saw
he did have time every now and then. But this
happened when Micah Parsons was there. It was the same thing.
When we had DeMarcus Lawrence and we had Micael Parsons,
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the same thing was happening. These cornerbacks are not do
not have football intelligence, That's all I'm saying. That's what
I think it comes down to. They don't have the
intelligence too. And I say, I know they're intelligent, I'm
saying football intelligence they don't have in order to understand
coverage and know where to be for you to get
beat on a flea flicker. I haven't seen anyone get beat.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
By a broken on a broken flee flicker. Mind you,
that didn't look like it was a like a well
executed flee flicker.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Blew it up, That's what I mean. They blew it up.
Our secondary got beat.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's like they they got through stalled and then realized
what was going on.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And then and then you have Trayvon Diggs are supposedly
shut down corner who for two weeks in a row,
he gets beat one on one that was even his
own n's and he slipped. I get it. Who do
you think you are? Anyways, you're getting all close to
this guy, you're bumping. Just just play hey, just play football.
You're not you're not deon.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, him coming in, him coming in already kind of
hobbled apparently with the knee right, and for him to
press like that and and try to chuck him out
the line, and then you basically chucked yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah. Listen, I've been deep diving with a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of the content creators out there, the guys on Talking
Cowboys and Nick Eatman and the articles that are servicing
like there's no real good way to look at this
loss and say like, oh, there's some positive even the
positives were negative. Isaiah Standback pointed that out that on
George Pickens's one handed catch, they missed an illegal man
downfield on Dallas you know, so that could have been
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called back too.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So and again the end zone, the end zones right.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
There, so it's it's hard to it's easier to see
a legal man downfield when the end when there's a
linement in the end zone, that means you're definitely past
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
But in any event, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
There's a lot of hard times to be had, a
lot of hard conversations to have.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But I could say one thing. Yeah, the one person
I don't blame, and I know people are people might
not agree with me. I don't blame Dak for this loss. No,
because his first interception was off Pickings hands. Okay, the
other one was suspect. But what are you doing? It's
thirty and I think this game was a very poorly,
(05:19):
poorly coach game by Shady, very bad from taking the
time out before half. What were you doing? He takes
a time out after they get a first down.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, I think he had all the confidence in the
world that if we got the ball back, all we
had to do is go fifteen yards.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
If you look at the time, there's a minute thirty left. Right,
they got a first down and he takes the time out.
That doesn't make it if they didn't get the first down,
I get it. They got a first down and he
took a time out. It's like, what are you taking
a time out for? There's a minute thirty left to
have the ball in the fifty What do you think
you're doing? And then he takes the final timeout and
(05:54):
gives green Bay, green Bay, sorry, Chicago a chance before
the half. He takes a final timeout give Chicago a
chance to put in a perfect play when we needed
that time out for our best player, Brandon Aubrey to
get on the field and kick an eighty hour Fieldal.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean look to your point with the Dak
Prescott thing, Like you know, we spoke about it. We've
talked about this so many times on the show about
how how you feel Keith that Dak isn't the type
of quarter isn't the type of quarterback that could put
the game on his back and say, come on, boys,
I'm putting my cape on.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
In regards to that last week, he did that right,
And I'm and I'm thinking to myself, even down this
week when we were down early fourteen six, I'm like,
you know what, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm not totally going crazy about this yet.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Like, yes, the plays leading up the strip on Javonte,
like a lot of the things that did it, you know,
could go wrong, did go wrong. But then we scored
and we're like, I'm like, okay, now, now did I
agree with chasing points at that point fourteen twelve? You
go for two that early, I'm like, nah, just kick you.
They are aggressive. They went for two and they tied
the game. And I'm like, all right, you know what
(07:04):
got ourselves a new ball game here, new lease on life.
But to your point, the secondary has not changed. Deron
Bland should not be the reason you're giving up all
this stuff, right, Like, and I understand that, Like injuries happen.
We're down over shown, we're down a couple of these guys.
We don't you know, we make the signing for Clowney.
He's not in there yet, right, so we're sitting there like,
(07:26):
all right, well it's the Bears and they've struggled defensively.
They had half their guys out, they got one guy
in I r and all of a sudden, we can't
score points on them either.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And I'm like, well, Jesus Christ, like is it? Where
does it stop?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And I'm not when I say I'm not blaming Dak,
I'm not saying the offense was awesome either.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No, they were.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Now Okay, hold on, bro, I wanted to say one
thing before. I just want to get one thing out.
We were four of eleven on third down.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's not good enough.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
In the first half. After the offense was doing their job,
our defense just was not. And you know, our offense
played good enough, I'd say, until the game got away
with us. It's like, you know more towards the end
of the third quarter, we were moving the ball or
doing what we were supposed to do. It's the defense
just fucking blows. I mean, there was nothing and then
(08:22):
they're like, stop the run. We couldn't even stop the run, dude.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We did stop the running.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
We did stop the run again when we need.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Look, man, there was that one play where.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
There's going to be one breakaway. Bro, It's going to happen.
I mean, all in all, they had eighty yards rushing.
I mean, it's pretty damn both they passed. How many
times did they pass versus how many times did they rush? No,
I don't know, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, look, if you're new here, which obviously, like
I said, we don't go live all the time, but
there's an almost one hundred people watching right now as
we're all venting together for this this Monday.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
But the issue, the biggest issue I have.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Is, like you said, Keith, the play calling was very odd.
You're inside the two, right, you have it. You have
a running back who is averaging no bullshit, he had
ten carriers for seventy six yards. That means he's averaging
seven point six yards of carry if you're inside the five.
Guess what to him? It was gonna He's gonna score.
(09:20):
And you know that's the troubling part. But even more
so when you and I tweeted this yesterday and I
told you guys like we actually have a running game,
which is weird to say. We haven't been able to
say that since Prime zeke right, and I'm sitting there
like we're wasting away. And then on top of that,
you have in your playbook we've seen it. You have
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packages for a guy like Cavante Turpin out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We have packages for that. We've seen it.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Why on earth are you putting your best player on
offense in the backfield on a stupid whatever the hell
they want to call him. It's never worked, and now
it's cost us our number one receiver for the foreseeable
three to three to five weeks, three to six weeks
Like that is that's that's bush league bullshit. That came
(10:10):
from shoddy And again I'm a shoddy guy, but this
is that's that's unforgivable kind of shit.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
That third quarter hold on that third quarter, that's the
what I'm talking about. That drive the Bears had, the
time they took most of the quarter on the drive
they kept getting mostly it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Was like a fourteen play drive, right or something.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Couldn't stop them. Here's here's the sad part. We we
had a time of possession over them, right, they had
twenty seven minutes. And then the craziest part was is
we ran more plays than them, so well.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You don't have to run plays when you're getting these
big chunks.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
They had fifty seven total plays and put up thirty
one fucking points, ten less plays than we did. And
we put up fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well they had the big plays, they had the twenty
plus plays which they call splash.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Plays, and and and again, efficiency they were eight out
of fourteen at fifty that's like a fifty seven on
third down. And like Keith stated earlier, we were three
four eleven, so one hundred and fourth downs.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But so but you look at that one driver talking
about too bro. Four of those third downs they converted
was on that drive, which is crazy. I know, right
at that, I at that is that that that's the
crazy part. But I meant if you looking at the
going back to shady is and this is why I
didn't want to you know, I haven't been and I
still haven't been saying. I said, he needs to prove
(11:39):
it to me before I say he's a good coach
because of all the reasons I said, how Clemson got
rid of him. The first thing they did, he he
left the NFL. They finally got him back, he got
demoted to the video room. I mean, all this stuff
that happened to him. I mean, I'm I'm exaggerating there.
That's why I'm like, Okay, why hasn't this guy been
a head coach? And the first two games decently coached,
(12:03):
not fantastic decent. This was awful. I mean this is
an f for the the for what we were talking
about starch with the third and goals and not running,
I meant his stupid. I mean, we bro look at
how many times have we run over? Did we pass?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So you know what's even crazier Keith to that point,
do you We're sitting there like, do we think Gravante
Williams is Marshaan Lynch?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
But do you want to riddle me this?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Do you know who called the pass in the Super Bowler?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Way, dude, there's another thing. The is another reason. Yeah,
he likes he likes doing those little those those kind
of plays. Man. It's like you know, and and if
you look at them at Javonte, man, that's one more
person I said I didn't know too much of and
I didn't. And you actually starts like, I think he's
gonna do good. I think he's gonna do good. I
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think I got faith in him. I never him. Now
that I see him, Oh my god, is he running?
And look that fumble that he had was a great
play by the Bears. That was a fantastic play.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Do you also, I know, I know it's hard to
see like in real time, and I'm sure you didn't
watch the condensed version yet maybe it did, maybe you won't.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But like the All twenty two, the film is out
and Isaiah Stanbeck pointed this out, and all the guys
I'm talking cowboys pointed this out. Is that there's a
certain wide receiver that didn't finish his blocks all the
way through. And the only reason why there's a guy
to rip that ball out is because Jalen Tolbert stopped
on the play.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Seeah, I didn't know that, that's all.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You can't have that right, And now you're looking at
Jalen Tolbert as wide receiver too going forward for the
next month.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's like this is we got kickings, he's got he's
got a good he's got a badass receiver.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Sorry, meant it's not like we're in the dark.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
No, we ran the ball twenty times and we passed
forty five times.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's not not a you're also playing from behind, so
that's the.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Whole But that's the whole thing. When I was watching
the game, I kept saying every time, like, guys, take
your time, take your time. We get the ball at half,
it's twenty seven, it's twenty four to fourteen the past.
It's like, dude, we're not that far behind. Play your game,
play your game, offense, take your time, go down the
field and let's see if we can get a stop.
(14:23):
But no, and you're bringing the shitty defense right back
out three.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And ow all right, yea was more balanced, man. They
passed twenty eight times and ran twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, we couldn't be a balanced offense considering we're playing
from behind. So that's how that works. That's the recipe
for that. But so you know, there's not many positives
to take away from this. You're looking at the secondary
Keith and it's the same usual suspects as it's been.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, unfortunately Gavone Clark was back. He really, oh my god,
he got showed his ass. Yeah, and again, I don't
like calling out bad players, but I also call out effort.
I'm an effort guy. If you're going balls to the wall,
just like Javante, if you're putting your head down and
you're running as hard as humanly possible, I'm not going
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to fault you for being stuffed behind a line. Sometimes
that's an offensive line thing. Sometimes you just miss a
block whatever. But like there was one play where I'm
watching Clark pursue and then him just looking look at them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's not his position. I think he'd be a better
safety personally, but I mean, he is not a good linebacker.
And I keep saying that. I mean, I know he
shines in pads. When I say pads, as we say
what shoulder pads and short shells, Yeah, that's right, but
I meant, you know, I know he shines that, and
everyone's like, oh, he's having a great camp. And I
kept saying, let's get him in a live action game
(15:48):
and let's see, let's.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
And then it was but it was even more false
hope when he played good in the preseason and everybody's like, oh,
all right, yeah, let's see that we might actually have
a guy here, and it's like, you're, bro.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
We have the same players. We pretty much have the
same players, except we don't have Micah Parsons. So I
meant we were people think if we have Mike of
the same result would have happened, because it was happening
last year. It was happening last year with Micah Parsons.
So I mean, there's no, that's not the issue. The
issue is is most of our I think it's our
players on defense, particularly our secondary and and and I
(16:25):
would say Clark and linebacker right now, that's that's our problem.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Are we still are we still stuck in this again?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Like we could talk about Molly Hooker was known in
the NFL before he got the Dallas But like guys
like Donovan Wilson and all these other guys, if you
asked around the league, like, ah, you know, we got
to worry about like like who does the opposing fan
or the opposing you know, guy that's watching film.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Who do they have to worry.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
About on defense right now when it comes to the secondary,
And the answer is nobody, right. The answer is there's
not a soul on that defense right now, and specifically
in the secondary that I'm like game prepping for or
throw the ball the other side, or we only have
we only have.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Some hope when overshell.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Comes back and then we but it might be too late.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Then let me finish that we have no hope. There's
we have very little. Even if Revel gets in, we
don't know what the hell he can do. We have
to look at it. This game was very important in
deciding how the season was going to go, right because
this was kind of like the Giants game was kind
of like the Ravens game last year, Game three, but
we ended up beating the Giants. This was like the
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Saints game, which we played two last year. Now this is,
you know, the third game where there this game would
have said, okay, do we make the adjustments we Two
and one is way different than one and two, especially
with Green Bay coming in. You know what I mean,
You're it's just not It's going to be a long season.
So we I think right now the coaches start putting
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in younger players and start to say, hey, who do
we have. You can't salvage this season. It's done. There's nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, we can't sleep well, all right. So first of.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
All, I'm not going to go I'm not going to
go that far.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, well, let them keep talking, go ahead, I'll eight till
you finish.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
No, because there's we're not there's no way, there's no
way that we just salvage this season, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So this is what I say for you. You're talking
about the Saints game actually would have been the Giants game,
and this would have been the Ravens game.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And then no, because the Ravens and Giants game Cowboys
game was close, but the Ravens beat us. We happened to.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Win and have no I'm just saying no because you
were saying Week three. I'm saying last year we got
our asses kicked by the Saints. This is the Saints,
and we got our asses kicked by the Ravens. I
don't care what that score said. It was twenty four
to three in the fourth. Listen, listen, hold on.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So this is what I say.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It's not to me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This is a thing about talent and and once again,
and intelligence. Okay, I would find the defensive backs, I
don't care where they are, practice squad, whatever. I would
find the ones that understand the defense the most, understand
where to be in placement and put them in. That's
what that That is the best way out of that.
That's the only thing I can think of, because we
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can't roll out the same secondary because it destroyed.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So a lot of people are talking about communication in
the first couple of weeks, right, are they lacking communication
on the field itself? Now you look at one specific
play yesterday right where or a couple of weeks ago, where.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
The cornerback might break the huddle.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
And this is something I'm taking straight from the internet,
straight from Talking Cowboys, straight from Bobby Belt on the
one oh five to three to fan where the huddle
is broke and the defense is called.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You guys know this.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You both play defense when you have a car. Right
this play, we're playing cover two. Ready break right, you
get into your position of cover two. Whatever you're thinking of,
what's going to happen, what's going to play out next?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Check?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You could check out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Something.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
So something happens and the guy with the green helmet,
green dot on the defense needs to check to cover
three now because of whatever circumstance, either or whatever. If
if not all eleven guys hear this or see this
adjustment made, they are going to think they're still in
the same coverage.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Meaning it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
No no no meaning meaning if you switch to a
cover three and all of a sudden, the corner whether
it be it could be, it could be Elam right,
this is the specific thing that they were talking about today.
If Elam doesn't see that there's been a switch made.
He now thinks, don't worry, I got over the top.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Help.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I got what you were saying. It doesn't work that way.
So if I'm yelling check check two, check two, everybody
repeats it, and then they'll be like, yo, yo yo,
get the slock, get the slot. You know you're communicating
right with each other before the snack. Unless you're just
standing there looking up, you're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what Keith's point.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Is what I'm saying is if there's no if there's
a lack of communication, and somebody like an Elam thinks, okay,
it's the same defense.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Is what.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
We just broke the huddle.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I didn't see the communication. I didn't see the flair.
I didn't see the the hey check check can't, can't.
I didn't see any of that. I'm gonna think I
got help over the top. And when the guy goes
burning by me, I'm not so worried because I got
Hooker back there, and Hooker's not there. At point, what
I'm seeing a complete breakdown.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
See at the NFL, it's not so much the communication,
it's thencred it's desynchronization. So like in other words, if
he knows, if he knows that you know, uh, you're
supposed to be covering, Say you're playing zone, and then
you may have two people fuck up and then pick
up the same guy, leaving one open, or somebody doesn't
go over a deep third. They all know on the
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field what the coverage is. They all know what the
play is. There's no fucking way they can't. Well, if
you've got Sanborn running running uh, you know, point or whatever,
and he's making the calls, everybody repeats it. Everybody knows,
and you're communicating with h you know, in code with
each other in the line the whole fucking time. Nobody's
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just quiet.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So all right, So I raise you this, is there
a possibility at the NFL level, which is being talked
about a lot today specifically in our world, is there
a possibility that some of these guys just don't know
what it is?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, it's Keith hit it. It could be it's a
talent things, it's a player thing. And then you know
and there is a breakdown like that last against the Giants,
I thought they were in fucking zone and they were
in cover three because Dix was so far out of position.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You know, it's it's it's something that doesn't even mean.
We don't even need to break it down. The numbers
tell you. I meant. Russell Wilson throws for almost five
hundred yards. Guys, listen to me. He barely broke one
fifty week one, and he has zero touchdowns. In any
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other game, he has more interceptions than he has touchdowns.
Because he has zero touchdowns, we made him look all world.
And then you have Caleb Williams and now all the
Bears fans because and that's another thing that bothers me.
We had this like fictitious eliteness about us, like when
a team beats us, all of a sudden, they think
they're great now. And I got Bears fans texting me
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and messing with me, Oh see we're It's like, dude,
we suck. You didn't meet anybody, We haven't done shit anyways.
And Kayla Williams has got that swag about him, like
see I told you, yeah, wait till next week when
you do play a defense that knows how to secondary
that's gonna intercept you three times. My old thing is
that right there just tells the story. Last year we
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thought Derek Carr and that Saints offense was a jogger.
And I still remember Bret gone, let's give them their flowers,
give them their dues. They're a great team. Guess what
what happened? Yeah, but they didn't do shit after that. No,
the Saints didn't do everything. It's our defense. I mean,
it's our secondary. It's so many things you can't put
your finger on. And what it comes down is to talent, too.
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Is the talent on the field, that's it. Because now now,
all right, so look, you can't keep chasing coaches out
of town. We got rid of Dan Quinn, right, who
goes to an NFC championship last year. We got rid
of a freaking Zimmer who was one of the best
defensive coordinators in the history of the NFL. You could say,
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I'm at top ten. Maybe we get rid of him saying, oh,
it's his fault. Now we got another guy who got
a head coaching gig strictly on playing being a defensive coordinator. Right,
and now we're about, oh we got to get rid
of him.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Now, Well, look that's the knee jerk reaction to every
Dallas Cowboys fan, Maybe not yourself. Keith but I'm saying,
like to me, yeah, I'm like, leave Evra Post in Chicago, right,
like obviously, And that's the thing with Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
You have to start being a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The Dallas Cowboys are not going to make a mid
season change anywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
They're not going to do that. They're not going to
fire ebra Flues. Just doesn't happen historically, It hasn't happened.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
So everybody needs the let that go right. What I'm
saying is, Keith, are we like we're getting clowny this
week to start?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
He's gonna be back, He's gonna help out the defensive
end rotation.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Maybe he gets a little bit more pass rush Bland hopefully.
I don't know. He has to practice this week to
see what's going on with him. But are they like?
What are is this Cowboys team has assembled right now?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Because remember, Jerry Jones is gonna spit the diary out
of his mouth to make you feel like he thinks
that this team has a lot of potential still and
they can make the adjustments and they'll show up to
play and it's all coach speak, owners speak.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Whatever he said, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Of course he is going to say that, and that's
that's fine. But what I'm thinking is, and what I'm
asking you is, is this Dallas Cowboys defense one trade
away from being average? Or is this like a whole
We gotta fucking unload on everybody because we have the
assets to do it if they want to do it now.
And Jerry is trying to politic his way into saying, Hey,
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this is a playoff team, don't worry about where we're
gonna be ready to play. Well, then you got to
make a choice because now and I don't care how
much he's gonna hold onto these draft picks like they're
a fucking luxury item and they're yes, are they good
to have?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Sure first round picks? Of course?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
But like are he says he's going to make those
necessary moves right now to make this team competitive.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Are we one player away on defense?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So what is the point? What's the point of making
a trade right now? Huh?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Search likes to make statements in the form of questions.
All right, so you asked the question that you just
go you're rambling.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Sorry, that's all. So this is my therapy for the day, Bret.
So it'll be easy. All right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
My whole thing with that is we have the same secondary, right,
we have the same secondary, and and that is our
downfall right now. So shit, all right, anyways, I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, Keith's gonna take a little bit of a break.
He's he's caught up.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
But last year, let me finish his point because I
know where he was going. It's personnel, bro and and
it's not one player that's gonna that's gonna fix it.
And remember last year we were like, man, we can't
put our finger. We don't know what it is. I mean,
we're just a bad team. And and you know, just
because people get hyped up doesn't mean they're good. Like
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Diggs is not a good corner. He's not a good corner.
I don't know if he's injured. He had that one
good season, you know what I mean, hasn't been the
same since we don't have a team. We had four
or five jersey sellers, and our O line plays as
a unit. I like our old line, you know. But
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last year, like you know, I was just in Dallas
this weekend and in the airport, and I see all
the jerseys of players that are trash.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
You know what I mean, I remember because in Dallas
they sell everybody ship at the airports.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Who you are is the only.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
One that I would I would I would buy maybe CD.
You know, I don't wear other guys. I'm just being hypothetical,
but I remember last year they had Pollard jerseys Tony Pollard,
and you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And I mean, we m for the Cowboys. They're a
marketing juggernaut. We all know this, right, if you're a
Cowboys fan, you're understanding of this.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
It's so stirchy for we all have different perspectives, right,
I look at it as as the team. It's like
last year when I when we beat the Browns, I
was like, this isn't a this isn't a good team.
We weren't moving the ball. And then and then the
next week against the Saints, we're like, all right, Then
when the Ravens game happened, we won, but we looked awful.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right, Well, we didn't win that game, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
We lost, but we we we got the ship. We
got the ship beat out of us, and I'm sorry.
The Giant game came. We won that, and then I
think we beat Pittsburgh and we're like, Okay, we look
like a team.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We we we don't.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
We haven't looked.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We didn't look like a team all last year. We
don't look like a team this year.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I said it now. I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I said it to Keith, and I said it on
Twitter today. This has eerily like, eerily familiar twenty twenty vibes.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It does.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
It just feels like, you know, you had a historically
bad defense in twenty twenty, right then you with this
improbable win against the Falcons. Are improbable win this year
came against the Giants. We're not supposed to win that game, right,
but they do. They pull it out of their ass.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Great.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Now the next week, you know, in the Cowboys I
believe the Cowboys Giants game, or maybe two weeks from then,
we lose Dak for the year, breaks his ankle. The
season's over. It's a wash, bad defense, bad quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Play, the whole thing just goes away. It's horrible.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Now we lose Ceede lamb Our number one receiver. Now,
while Keith said, all is not lost when it comes
to the receiver possession because you have a George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And he is a dog. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I like the way this dude plays, and again, slamming
your helmet on the sidelines to me just shows you
give a shit. We didn't get penalized for it, right
you mean like so that's I'm not worried about that.
But I don't think the sky has fallen completely yet.
Like you said before, the season was washed. Well this week,
well that's in lies. The problem now in not in
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my opinion, is weird as this sounds like it would
be the Cowboys brand, and so Cowboys if we went
out on Sunday Night Football, no CD LAMB, Michael Parsons
return and we win that game.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Do I think that's gonna happen. No, I don't think
it's going to be close. But what I will say
is to the.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Giants would have jumped up on us like like the
bit and think of it. These are two of the
worst not worst teams, but lower teams in the NFL.
So the Giants would have jumped up on us by
probably two touchdowns if it wasn't for those penalties. You know,
you know what I mean, Because those penalties still didn't
affect that play. It wasn't like a defensive offs of
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holding play on the in the secondary, you know what
I mean, these these were well what's his name? Though,
Scatterboo fucking broke one had to bring it back. They
should have been up on us by fourteen points, right,
But that was a great game. I'm glad we want it,
but we didn't look like a good team and we're
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this just fell apart. I mean, this was just fucking gross.
It wasn't it was. It's unfathomable to have on the
field again, arguably, uh, top paid quarterback, top paid receiver,
top paid, you know, and nothing we got nothing. Even
Diggs is overpaid.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Like I said last night, I think Jerry's even he
realized that too.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But yeah, to me, I feel like, as long as
Dak Prescott is upright and is healthy, they're gonna be competitive.
And I don't mean that in a way where like, oh,
we're gonna be in every game. I just mean we're
not gonna fucking lay over and die.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
We're gonna like last year. It's gonna be a lot
like last year. Might well.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Like I told you, and I told Jesse Holly on
this episode a couple of weeks ago that I looked
at this as the twenty twenty four Bengals. Right, score
points not enough points though, you know what I mean, Like,
you could score in the thirties and it might not
be enough because of the defense being historically bad. And
I just don't think, you know, I don't think the
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sky is falling per se, but I think that this
is at least a gut punch and a wake up
call to if we do have a good coach, which
I hope we really do, that adjustments will be made.
Now does that mean telling Abra Flues you know, you
better write this ship or you're out of here too.
Or is he gonna be like a you know, it's
growing pains. It's a new system. It's just that and
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the third and I think that's the the piss poor
way to go about it.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
We got a comment coming in from YouTube. Everybody's talking
about our week defense. What about our shoddy dak led
field goal offense versus the Giants and Bears two here?
All right, So he's basically saying Dak is mid. All right, Well,
that's not correct. I mean, he's playing going into this
game they were talking about and again it's two weeks.
I get it, but they're going in saying he's playing
the position better than most guys in the right look.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
To answer his point, Dak is not an elite, but
he's not the problem so far this year, right right.
I mean, he played a hell of one of the
best games against the Eagles, did what he had to
do against the Giants. I mean, if we were to
make a wish and say, dear, you know, hey, if
a genie said you got one wish to fix any
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aspect of this game of your team this season, we'd
all go secondary.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, right, like that's I'm not I'm not going to
sit there and say like, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
He's always the problem. He's always been the problem.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Like I think people just when you got that star
on your helmet, your your persona is going to be
larger than life regardless this season.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
But this season, yeah thatk Dak's.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Not the problem. Dak is not the problem this year.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And I don't Yeah, Keith, sorry, just coming in and
say a comment from ghost Face Gaming came in and
said that that Dak was Dak and the field goal
led team is the problem.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I we that's not an agreement.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This is what I would say, though, I meant and
I know you brought up last week with with Dak
and I know we said he threw the team on
his back. Eh, he did a great job. But I meant,
you don't. We don't have Aubrey, we don't win that game. Man.
Well there is Let's be honest, if we don't have Aubrey,
we're not kicking a sixty five yard field goal and
they're going to have to get closer and all those
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kinds of things you know, doing doing.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, but there's a he's doing his job. That's exactly
he's doing his job.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. So see, the whole thing is is that when
when you're down, when you're down like like Dak was,
it takes him out of his game with the play
calling and all those kind of things.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So if it could be a relatively close game and
we're driving down the field, I mean, that's that's he could,
you know, But I mean you just can't. You can't
let offenses score like they're scoring. You just can't.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
So basically, just based off of what we've said in
the first thirty five minutes of this show is that
it's definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
A personnel thing, correct.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, On defense, it has to be right, like, so
this isn't the first And again this is to all
those leave Eberflus on the bus in Chicago. Fire him now,
fire them now, and I'll listen. I'm on that train too.
I'm like, man, this guy can't coach his way out
of a paperback. But at the same time, this isn't
the first time a defense has switched coordinators. And like,
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when you switch coordinators, it's typically because they stink or
it's a whole new regime. Right, So when McCarthy leaves,
so does the rest of his staff, so you have
to hire your own guys. So this is a complete
We went from man to zone and it's just not
working out based off the players that are on the
field exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
And that's the thing. I don't know why everyone wants
to get a Berthless out right, a ferbolous is because
of it doesn't make any sense. And that you look
at Quinn's defense against Green Bay, the same thing happened
or secondary got destroyed in the playoffs. And then you
go the next year, not only the Saints and everyone
other teams are teeing off on this same defense with
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Mike Zimmer And now you've got another defensive coordinator. Like
I said, it's not the defensive coordinator, it's not him. Okay,
so basically what what what when I just learned this
what a Burthless wants is he loves having for linemen, right.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I can't think these areas when you like completely butcher
his name on purpose look ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
But he loves having for down linemen. He likes getting
to the quarterback then and then it's up to this
to the other seven players to drop in the coverage
and be in the correct spot or to understand how
the this isn't working with them because like I said,
I don't think it's a talent. I'm saying their talent.
It's an intelligence thing. It's it's it's something else smart. Yeah,
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football smarts. I don't think that. I don't think that
is there. You know, if you if you if what's up.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
That's why I get that test to quarterbacks, the winner
lick tests.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, it's a football I Q.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So that give the defense.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
So that's another thing that was said today one oh
five to three defan which is kind of alarming. Maybe
it's coming off this loss, so people are kind of
spewing a lot of negativity and hatred. But he said
that if you took the Dallas Cowboys secondary, a local
high like a local high school secondary, and then a
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college secondary, and you gave them all the same defensive
scheme tests, that Dallas would score the lowest of all
the defense Dallas Cowboys would score the lowest.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
When it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Because some of these these plays, these guys are by themselves,
A lot of them. They were they were showing the
range between their comedy steps. They were receiver is from
the defensive back. It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
But in any event, so obviously, if you're listening to
us for the first time, you can find the Jersey
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We're three dudes. We talk football. The x's and o's
are there. We have former players on here. We have
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Jesse Holly that vow just for us. We have other
content creators that vouch for us that you know, we're
just we're trying to establish ourselves as the fan that's
sitting on the couch watching the game. Right, And there's
a lot of x's and o's and shit, and we
know the game. We've all played the game, so we get.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Next level, but you know we're familiar with it, right.
We all have a different take. I try to be
grounded in reality. My brother tends to be more cynical.
I try to take it week by week. And that's
why I said, if we really had a good performance
against the against the Bears, I'd be optimistic about the
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season if we made those adjustments. I meant, and again,
the offense did their job most of the time before
they got jumped ahead on I mean that that that
changes the whole game plan.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know, it's like, oh, of course, and you again
you lost your best offensive weapon in Ceedee Lamb. Yeah,
think about it like this too, Brett.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
The two games that we'd have lost already, and Patrick
Walker brought this up today. The two games that we
have lost, once to Philly and now obviously to Chicago.
Ceede Lamb was the culprit for two different reasons. He
was dropping balls in the first game and now he's
not available in this game. And you could tell the
difference in these games when you're superstar receivers not there. Now,
could George Pickens be the guy to come back and
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pick up the slack and and you know, cover for
his boys.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I think that's that's going to grow.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The camaraderie between the two I'm talking about Dak and
George Pickens can grow. They've they've connected on touchdowns already
this season. So that that's a thing, right, We've all
seen it. But can it be on a consistent basis?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Is?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Now are we the teams now only have to prep
for one threat, where as going into the first two
weeks you're prepping for two threats. Chicago was depleted, depleted
in the secondary, and yet they still played a good ballgame,
specifically because Ceedee Lamb is out. Now you know have
Ceedee Lamb going forward. So now that the Green Bay
Packers are licking their chops right now, knowing that they're
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gonna rush the passer better than anybody.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Else, now us up.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, I mean, I don't live in delusional land, right
I do. I think like I said, and I said
this on Twitter, it's a matter of just like, ooh,
wouldn't it be so Dallas esque if they won this game?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Because nobody wants them to win, or nobody's predicting them
to win. That's all fun, right, it's all fun to
talk about. But I don't think there's a realistic possibility
that the Cowboys can run with a team like the Packers,
who are coming off a shitty loss. Right, they're gonna
be pissed off. Michaeh Parson's coming home. There's only going
to be one of the two ways that this game
can go. Either the Packers beat the ship out of us, right,
(41:02):
or we somehow pull out a miracle.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
There will be no other way. There won't be a.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Dallas runaway game. That's the only two scenarios that could
play out.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
The problem. The problem with Dallas is and is everybody
wants to beat you because they hate you, and rightfully so.
I mean, you know, we're still the talk of the
We well, we have three national.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Games on it and pay for the NFL sun they
take it for no reason whatsoever. So far we've been
on national TV.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, and we'll be on again. I mean, you know,
there's always a storyline. You know, everybody, Mike is coming home. Uh,
you know, it's it's just no team is going to
take us lightly everybody wants to beat us.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
There's not that's been a thing forever. Yeah, everybody is
green Bay is going to come in.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
They they're coming off a loss. Uh, they're gonna be
riled up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Six point six point favorites on the road, they are.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, they would be ten points favorites if we were
in Green.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Bay, right, double, that's a two score favorite. That's insanity
in September.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Like, I can understand that if that spread is made
against a Saints team who just look really bad or like,
that's really all the teams I could think of on
the top of my.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Head, that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Gie.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
We are that team. That's what people, that's that this
game showed we are that type of team. We don't
have the personnel, we don't have the team play, we
don't have it. We have a chance because of our offense.
I mean, we got a good running back and a
good quarterback. We've got Pickens. Tobird isn't much. I mean,
(42:40):
you know, turpens a weapon. Our O lion is doing well.
Our d line we got nobody. Our secondary is just awful.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, I mean you would you would help, you would
hope that clowney. The addition of Clowney helps with the rotation.
I'm not expecting Clowney to go out there and be
a world beater.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It's not it's not going to happen. And then the
only great thing we have is Aubrey. We're not a
good team, man, We're not a good team.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I mean this is and again this can go back
to what Vegas was predicting as far as a win
lost total.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Right sitting there around seven and I was like, what
are you thinking? Nuts? Maybe they know a little bit
more than I do. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
We look good against the Eagles. We gave that game
away and it's the first game of the season, so okay,
you chalk it up to jitters. But we looked good.
And then we came against the Giants, looked like shit.
Got lucky on some penalties they should have been up.
We'll just give him another ten and plus. By the way,
if he goes for it takes the three on that
(43:43):
fourth and two, we lose the game.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
But we didn't.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
We fought hard. We won in overtime. Dak played good.
He did his job right. It's not like that's what
people forget. He did his job by not throwing interceptions
and getting first downs. I mean, we didn't getting the
end zone as much as we wanted to, but he
did his job. And then this week we come in,
we got a fucking average Bears team that ran us out. Man,
(44:09):
they ran us the fuck out. We did nothing, absolutely nothing,
and our said again, they played good. If the defense
did their job, it would have been a control game.
I mean, we tied it at one point and then
it just got away from us, and and uh, you
know that we're just not a good team. And now
Green Bay's coming in and they're gonna light our ass up.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Boy watch Now I'm trying to think, like in the
grand scheme of things, if I say if, because nobody
really knows, we can all assume that the Packers will
come in and just spark us. Right, if that happens
and there's three weeks in a row of just secondary
getting mangled, like while I say historically they've never made
(44:54):
it in season change, But Brett, do you think that
that could be a thing.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It needs to be.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It needs to we say needs to be. Do you
think it could actually happen?
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Though, Well, it depends. It depends on where the problems are. Man,
you know.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I mean, we've already addressed the problems, like we don't.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
What do we have?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
I mean, like I agree with my brother. You just
have guys in there that know know the know the
the defense or can read the offense better, you know,
make the adjustments and start going with younger guys. Man,
I mean, we got to get I want to see
Florin Oi in there. I want to see Mosey Tatupu
and then Leahfu in there. I want, you know, let's
(45:32):
see some more younger guys. Just get him in.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I think there was a certain there was a certain
moment yesterday where I was like, ooh, they had enough.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
And that's when Yanye Thomas was in there.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Like I was like, oh wait a minute, Like they
told Donovan Wilson take a seat, pal, you know what
I mean? Like so and maybe, and I don't even
want to say the game was ever out of reach
until the very very end, when all of a sudden
it was seventeen and we had one drive to go
down there and there's another interception. But like I feel
like there's a there's definitely a culture change when it
comes to making sure that you're doing your job when
(46:07):
Sam Williams was penalized early in that game.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
He was taken out and benched for a little while.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Jaden Blue, Maurice LEYAFU Like, none of these guys are
getting burned right now, and we're wondering why I can't
tell you. I'm not in the locker room right and
the reporters can't tell you because the NFL locker rooms
are usually tight knit when it comes.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
To stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
But like if if basically the Exchanges and Keiths probably
agree with this, I would rather have the high IQ
less talented guys out there than the more like that's
what I'm bringing talent athletes who don't know what the
fuck are doing.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, agree, I mean you need some talent out there,
don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yeah, no, I get that part.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
But I'm saying, like, if you had a choice between
Diggs and let's just say a ready start right and
he knows the fucking defense, and I'm like, hey, Trayvon, dude,
have a seat, bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Like and again, hey listen, I hate to do this,
but I got to give you my score right now.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
All right, Yeah, let's let's wrap it up anyway, because
there's not much. They just brutalize here.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
There's no way in hell I'm taking the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
You piece what I saw.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I bet Jordan love, especially if there's no changes in
the secondary. I mean, they will pick us apart. I
don't think we can keep up with them. I think
maybe it's close in the first quarter a little bit,
sort of like this Bears game. Maybe, but at the end,
I'm going to say forty two or forty nine to
fourteen maybe or seventeen. Oh my god, yeah, that's what
(47:38):
I say.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
If it's forty nine to fourteen then and a change
de Troit game.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Remember when Detroit destroyed us last year.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I see it like that kind of yeah, you know
the head coach that the coordinator was Ben Johnson again.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
But I'm just saying, though we got the same defense,
same defense, the same defense is there that Jordan love
even and we're worse than we were because we don't
have Mike and de Marcus. So just use your common sense.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Good times in Dallas, all right, keep get out here.
Good to your big bro. Brett will throw it to you.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
As far as a score prediction, we got forty nine
to fourteen, which is an absolute throttling.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
What do you got.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I was gonna go with that analogy with the Detroit
game last year, where we came in and we're like,
all right, you know, we got a chance. If it
wasn't on paper, it should be I'll go thirty five,
maybe thirty.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Seven to ten, thirty seven to ten, Okay, Yeah, I
for one think that they're yeah, they're not going to
win the game.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I don't see it'll be a thirteen.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
I say, Aubrey kicks ninety.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yard from the opposite of twenty. Yeah. So I mean, look,
I want the Cowboys to be competitive.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I want them to compete every day, if that's the mantra,
But like, I don't see a path if they the
only way they win this game is if it's low scoring,
it's because we're running the football very well and we've
got a couple of lucky bounces.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I don't want to see the Cowboys if the Cowboys
give up a forty burger at home again and they
don't do anything to address it. And I don't want
to hear about trading. I don't want to hear about
new players coming in or we're gonna get healthy, don't worry.
Help is on the way.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Like it's not right.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
So I'd rather I'd rather lose this game in a
fashion where they were in it and there's signs of hope.
So give me the Packers to win this game thirty
one to twenty, or maybe we get a garbage touchdown.
We're down thirty one to thirteen, we score at the
end and that's the end of that. But yeah, I
don't see a path of the Cowboys to win the game.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Listen, Micah does well against bad teams, and we're a
bad team, so then so that beat Micah Parsons, who
might feast on his former brothers.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
But we'll see, we shall see again.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
If this is your first time tuning in to a
live broadcast, we don't do live all the time, but
we did definitely have a solid surge of downloads, so
if you want to search us out on iTunes, Spotify,
anding like that. We record usually Mondays or tuesdays of
the following games. It's Dave Stercio. It is nationally known
comedian Brett Ernst. You know him from Cobra Kai. You
know him for his stand up comedy and of course
(50:16):
Keith is a super fan who we love and adore
so very much, and he will give you the hard
truths and be the grinch around Christmas time when it's
absolutely apparent and necessary. So for that, Let's go Cowboys.
I guess we'll see what happens. We'll see if they
can hold on.
Speaker 5 (50:33):
I'll be tuning in and I'll have that LRS, that
little ten year old inside of me, hope, and then
I'll just start yelling at the I'll be traveling again.
I'm in San Jose this I'm in in Sunny Vale,
California this week. And during the game, no, no, no,
I'll be traveling on Sunday, And just like yesterday, I
(50:55):
was watching the airport. I went to Dallas. I had
to lay over timed out so I can watch the game.
It's just uh yeah, yeah, It's gonna be a long season, buddy.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
We shall see.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
So with that being said, this has been another episode
of the Jersey Boys Podcast. You can find us on
Chop Sports Media on the YouTube if you want to
see our faces. If not, you can always download the
audio version as well. Each and every week, So thank
you guys for listening and watching. Let's Go Cowboys, Let's
pull out a miracle. Huh, Dad's coming home after all.
You never know, see you guys later.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Hey, thist's just Starny soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys podcast with your host Dave Stercio and the Arne Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit about the Cowboys
were New Jersey. These guys got bulls being cowboys. Fangin Jersey. Anyways,
Enjoy well, whatever,
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