The Cowboys Drop the Opener, Some Positive signs, Giants up next!

The Dallas Cowboys start their season 0-1 with a tough loss against the defending Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles. Dave Sturchio, Bret Ernst and Keith Ernst are back with another loaded episode of "The Jersey Boyz Podcast" and they break down some of the good, bad and indifferent about the loss. Keith however, not so fast. The Grinch is Grinching because he wants to see more. Can the Cowboys rebound and get "Schotty" his first win as Dallas head coach as the New York Giants come to town (Also 0-1 with their loss to Washington). We shall see. Game picks and more! #NFLPicks #DallasCowboys #NewYorkGiants #JerseyBoyzPodcast

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, let's just starty soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcast with your host Dave Stercio and the Urge Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit, but the Cowboys
with New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey. Anyways, enjoy well, whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
What's going on. Cowboys Nation is your favorite Dallas Cowboys podcast,
the Jersey Boys Podcast, Back in the Saddle again Dave
stcill alongside nationally no comedian Brett Ernst, and of course
the return of the Grinch himself, America's.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fan Keep Yeah is one week hiatus.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
We took Jesse Holly under our wing once again and
he helped us bring in the new year. Obviously it
was you know, didn't play out the way we had
hoped it would play out. But there's some optimism in
the air around Cowboys Nation as the Cowboys fall to
the Eagles on Opening night, and of course the Giants
who are coming up also fell. Looked pretty bad against

(01:07):
the Washington Commanders. Offensively, defensively, they held their own for
a little while, but we'll get into all that. Keith,
welcome back. How are we feeling? Is this the first
Dallas Cowboys loss Opening day loss, that you're not like
the Jerry is definitely not out on this team, or like,
how are you feeling now? We're removed from this at least,
you know, five days or whatever, So how are you

(01:27):
feeling now?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I meant like I think as I was texting, it
didn't feel like we lost, which is weird.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
I meant it just because it looked like a different
team from last year.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
To me. I think that's why you don't think, you know,
we're not falling into the whole Cleveland first game, even
though we won that game.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, but see the difference between that Cleveland game is
we weren't we were sold on the defense, which is weird,
and then the offense. You know, like Brett brings up,
we were like, eh, you couldn't really even gauge the
offense there because the defense played so well. But I
meant now, it's like, yeah, it's like the opposite like that,
I was telling Brett, this is the best game, well,

(02:05):
not the best game, but it's DA's The way Dak
played was better than any game he played last season,
especially in an old game. Yeah whatever, I'm just saying
in general, I haven't seen I didn't see that Dak
once last season, which is positive.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Brett were you were you surprised to see him stretch
the field as much as he did. I felt like
he was throwing the ball down the field a little
bit more often than not.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
You know, look his Uh he played phenomenal man. Best
opener I've seen him play in a long time. And uh,
I'll say this, what happened to a grinch?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
He's gone for now, but help you he's at work. Yeah,
echo in the bag.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I agree with Keith.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I think our expectations. Look, we both we both my
brother and I both thought Dallas would lose.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
But they they gave the game away.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
It was our game to win, and our offense looked really,
really good. Dak, like I said, he's he played phenomenal man.
He made great, great choices, didn't take a sack, you
know what I mean. He he got the ball where
he needed to, which we'll address that later.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, he just played amazing.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
And I was telling him stage, Keith, I got a
list of some of the PFF grades of some of
the guys on the team, and Dak had a ninety PFF.
And we'll go over that.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
But when you're.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Ready, Yeah, well, here here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Show you the scale. To show you the scale. A
PFF grade ninety plus is like a Hall of Fame performance. Okay,
eighty to ninety is Pro Bowl caliber, seventy eighty is
a great game, sixty to seventy is just an average game,
but a good game. And anything below that. And I
think Dak was at like eighty eight and was tied

(04:01):
for second.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
In the league. Do you know who was the first
one on offense? No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It might have been Josh Allen or the Lamar Jackson
or something like that.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Who had Both of those guys doesn't necessarily have to
be a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Great, Okay, but listen, he was.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
He was a top rated quarterback.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Him and Jalen were like neck and neck. They had
they had both had Pro Bowl games, and they both
showed it.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I meant, look, you know, Jalen beat us with his legs.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
I meant, you know, we couldn't stop him, which people forget.
He played the number one offense, you know, the Super
Bowl champions and uh, you know we we we didn't
just play well, we should have won.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I mean let's let's start it off by saying
that the start of this game was bizarre. Uh, but
the Eagles losing their best defensive player to a seven
thousand dollars loogie, that's what he was fined. It's a game, cha.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
And then and you know, and then they try to
say Dak, Dak just spit on.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
The ground, and then anybody that into Dak being the instigator. Look,
and I will say this, and I've said this on
this podcast before. If you remember back to the last
time the Dallas Cows are on hard knocks and Dak
Prescott was showing you his personality on the field, like
off the field, Yeah, Walter Payton, man of the Year,
donations to all the charities. You know, he's just a

(05:24):
guy's guy, perfect specimen when it comes to off the
field stuff. On the field, I think Dak Prescott has
a lot more dog in him than people give him
credit for. And he was to the point he's a spitter,
you know that he spits. He says it's like a
tick of his like it's it happens. But like when
he did spit and he looked up and he saw
Jalen Carter, he he smiled at him like yeah, bitch, like, yeah,

(05:48):
we're coming, you know we're coming. And then Jalen Carter
was like, did you spit on me? And he's like
what the fuck? He literally said, he goes like, what
the fuck do I spit on you? You know, like,
of all people, I.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Think I think that the I think Dak said that
he was coming after the rookie offense with Hyler Booker. Yeah,
he was trying, and that's why Dak was looking at
him like, you know, yeah, kind of stick it up
for him.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, And that's what you want out of QB one. Absolutely,
So that's how the game started. And you're like, oh, okay,
and even Dak was like, oh, we're gonna get fifteen
yards out of this. Turns out he's gone right, and
it's like oof, all right, and all of a sudden,
you have a running game because you're running pretty much
right at where Jalen Carter would be, and you have
Javonte Williams, who really did show out considering the fact

(06:30):
that we had question marks about him because he had
no reps in the preseason Brett.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Everything was in our favor to pull this one went
out and we didn't, and it had nothing to do
with coaching, had nothing to do with coaching.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
So I'll ask you both.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'll start with Keith. You know, I know we had
weekends that were ruined over the summer based off of
Shady Right and our belief in Shoddy and his vanilla
offense in the preseason.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
How did you like him when he showed his cards?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I know he did, it was great, But I meant,
the only coaching I'm suspect on is letting Miles Sanders
run the ball. Yeah, he was still he was still
playing for the Eagles, bro.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, but that that one was that one was a
heartbreaker after his forty nine yard scamper in which I
think if that was Jayden Blue, that's a touchdown, you know,
but Jayden Blue getting the healthy scratch, which is weird.
And then you heard more about it yesterday. Schottenheimer came
out and said, you got to earn these reps and
they have to be consistent, and maybe he saw inconsistencies

(07:29):
in Jaden Blue's play throughout the preseason, throughout practice. Looks
like he's not taking any ship, which is cool. You know,
It's one of those like he's not a cupcake, He's
not a pushover. You got to earn it.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
What go ahead, every coach?

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Yeah, this we're just talking schematics now.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, I'm talking about the fact that Schottenheimer wants these
guys to his spots moments.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's like, look.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
We don't Starch gets excited, bro, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, but guys, I'm excited off a loss.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So like, give me a little bit of credit, Like,
I know.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
What I'm saying is now one of that shit matters, man,
Like even sticking up for the rookie. We had guys
that never played it down that we're ready to fight,
you know.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
You you that has nothing to do with anything.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
It has to do with your performance, your consistency, your
decision making, you know, And that's more important to me
what DA showed. It's the first game opener that I saw.
The play calling was great.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Okay, no, you.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Said you were mad they gave Miles the ball, But
who knows Davis might have been like, I'm tender on
this play or you know, we don't know what goes
on on the sidelines. Personally, if Javonte was healthy and
Mile and was ready to go, he should have put
him in in that twenty the way he was running,
you know what I mean. Now, that's that's in my
opinion that you know, it was like that the kid

(08:49):
last night, Swift for Chicago. You know they they stopped
giving him the ball when you were down by a
field goal.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Let that kid run.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
He was.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
That kid was just on fire.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And he's not for that at all. He's a finesse
runner and he was actually putting his shoulder down and
eating some serious tackles. And look, nobody had Javonte Williams
scoring twice in our opening game.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Nobody did you know what I mean? Oh you did?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, no, I had him.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
I had him. I put a twenty dollars bit in
right Vegas for him to score the first touchdown of
the game, and it won.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Me five hundred Holy shit, really, oh no, three hundred.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I'm sorry, not five hundred three.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It doesn't matter like first time first scored, Javonte, You're like,
fuck it.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I was like, I'll give it a shot. We might
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I like that. I liked that. And by the way,
for anybody listening and watching, Keith is old school. He
was in Vegas for this, so he had to go
up to the gate and place the bet like he
doesn't believe in any of these apps that.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Everybody else as either.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I know, you guys are so old school when it
comes to that ship, like, well you're an exception, Brett,
you're out there.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
So but here's here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
When you go to the cage, it really helps you
with your degenerousies because you see your future. Look at
the guys that are there, and they're like, I don't
want that to be me.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
So if I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Playing with the oxygen tank and shit and go back
to a twenty huh.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Put the oxygen tanks and ship.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
They're awful. It's like going to an off track betting.
I don't know if you remember otbs.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
We haven't. We have them in Jersey, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's where we used to go. My stepfather would always
make stops. And you see the people there and you're like,
I don't ever want.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
To be that.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, it's one of those things where I think,
like I kind of want to be that. They give
two ships about it, nothing but themselves.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Well, you don't want to be them there. They are
just awful. They look like drugs. That's how bad of it.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, in any event, so look, knock on what the
Cowboys showed some offense. Dak Prescott was pushing them all
down for you.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
What they were doing, right, A lot of motion, which
was good.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Preached that motion was a big thing for me last year.
I'm like, we never showed it, you know what I mean, Like,
we never showed pre snap motion, and and I don't know,
I just I just didn't, you know, didn't make any
sense not to do it.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm a lot of preslap motion. You're out of focus day.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I know, I don't know. Something happen with my camera.
Go ahead, keep going back.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
We showed a lot of pre snap motion. The play
calling was good. It wasn't uh you know, even our
situational play calling was good again.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Gavante fucking he ran when he needed to. He was
running hard, hitting the holes we had. Our old line
was you know, they were making blocks.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
It was it was good man and we sort of
almost every drive. The Eagles couldn't stop us in the
first half.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I mean, I would say the
only reason I am pumping the brakes a little bit
on this excitement is we were super like our team
was really up for this game, like really up. No
one gave him a chance. You know, it's one of

(11:59):
those games where you know, if you have talent and
you're and you're really up for a game, you're gonna
you're gonna play.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
That's why going into this next game is tricky for me.
But we'll get into that when you guys are dumb.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But for me too.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
But yeah, not for me. It's not for me.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well to get to get into the to the goods
and the positives. Like I said, Dak Prescott pushing the
ball down the field, you want to see a couple
of those balls. Obviously. Look, the drops were killer in
the biggest of spots, you know. On top of the drops,
I think one of the biggest things for me was
seeing too many receivers in the same area, meaning somebody
around the wrong route right, So that that pissed me off.

(12:40):
With Jalen Tolbert, there was a couple of times where
I'm like, bro, why are you so close?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Let's let's let's get to that. Then, I do not
think I think Tolbert does not. I think we need
to start repping Florine, get him in there.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I think he was our weakest link.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
I mean, Cavante played well, pickings got you know, I'll
tell you this.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
CD kept getting separation.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Man, CD went for over one hundred yards. We can't
take that away from him.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
No, But here's the other thing. You you have three. Look,
and you know how I feel about this. I think
CD is one of the better receivers, but he's not
that clutch guy. And when you drop three in a row,
you can't do this and be like my bad. You
could maybe give him the third one that that was difficult,
even though.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Dak Yeah, but guess what, Michael. By the way, Michael
Irvin is catching that ball.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
And and you want the big I'll take And I
said this in the text last night. I'll take the
big play, the clutch catch over the athletic catch when
it doesn't matter, which was that was t O's problem.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
And we'll get to that. We don't have to discuss that.
But two, Keith, two.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Key fucking first downs in your chest and in your hands,
and you're the second highest paid receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Look, I agree, you got to come down with that.
You But I'm so tired and maybe it's just me
because I've heard it enough, but like I'm so tired
of the narrative of likes. No, but I'm saying, like, oh,
you make this much money, so you shouldn't make any
mistakes whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yes, No, it's not any mistakes, though I meant it
can be consistent. Like and I'll bring this up again.
Nobody wants to talk about some of his drugs. But
last year against Atlanta, when Cooper Rush came in, we
would have tied the ballgame if CD Lamb did not
drop an easy post that was right in his chest.

(14:32):
That's another game there, that's another win that that at
the end of the year matters when you're going to
the playoffs. So yeah, I do have to say that
if it happens, if that, if this happen, and that's
there's other there are other plays in my head that
I remember, but key important ones. That's what you've got
those playmakers for. That's what you're making that money for. Man,

(14:53):
just in that situation.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
You're not making that money. So nerds can do well
in fantasy. I mean, Big Deally at ot one hundred yards,
Who the fuck cares. I'd rather have forty yards and
catch those key passes that we need.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Clearly, clearly I agree with you there.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And again I'm not putting him down. He's an elite receiver.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
But to be that clutch guy, to be that Marvin
Harrison or that Michael Irvin or that Jerry Rice when
you know, just get him the ball and and you
know he's your main guy and you can't depend on that.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
You know that, that's that's huge. That that got the
ball where he needed.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
To get it, and that goes. That goes for fer
A couple of balls to Ferguson as well. It was
one I was on the throne, but a couple.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
The money you drop it. Fergie played a good game man.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
He was actually one of the guys that Schottenheimer mentioned
because he came up big when he had to. You're
gonna drop passes, it's fine, nobody does that. It's when
you drop.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Them and he I think he's referring to the one
in the end z On. That was that for either.
But he got his head clean.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
That was again, you can't blame a guy like Ferguson
for not coming up there. But I'm saying like it
was there for him, and you know, there could be
a million like for instance, I could be like, well,
Waitting's not dropping that ball, you know, to me. That's
just like again, it's.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Like feeling last night against Detroit. He had a ball
in his hand, right in his hands and boom. I mean,
Jefferson dropped the ball to right and right.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
In my basket.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
It as a trend in the league.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And again Week one, remember that Week one?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
So okay, you got to be ready for Week one counts.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, man, I mean, we
could be kicking our ass at the end of the
year if we don't get a wildcard for this one game.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, and listen, it's a division game. It's it's there.
And as Schottenheimer said, is no absolutely no sense of
a moral victory here because you don't do that in
the NFL. You can't be like, well, you know we lost,
but we kind of won.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like, no, you lost. You're all in one and you know.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Arrival and and and in our division. We're third in
our division now.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And you know, to Keith's biggest bugaboo of the defense
preseasons or not, Damon Clark was out of place in
that game, Like he just didn't have another He had
one of those Govone Clark games where you're like dude,
what is going on? And once again, you know, Schottenneimer
came out and said, well, Leaffo has to earn those

(17:20):
reps and he's getting there. Like to me, I don't
need to see anymore. I know that Maurice is a
better player he had Clark.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Now I'm on the Lea Fu train. Okay, yeah, he
only had six fucking plays. Now. It's ridiculous to me
as far as the f F grades go. The Kenneth
Murray was the worst, Samborne was second worst.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Gavone Clark had a sixty one grade, which he had
a good game. Samborne had forty seven, and Kenneth Murray
had a thirty.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
So here's my thing with this, with these grades. And
I know I brought him up too, but there could
be other things maybe Govone's doing. But when it's coming
to the run again, that's what I'm worried. Maybe he's
dropping back in pass covers, maybe there's other things he's
doing well. But I saw with my own eyes him
not as Starch was saying, and you saw a two

(18:11):
brow in the game. Yeah, the same issue with the run,
the same issue with the running. I mean, I just
it drives me. It drives me crazy. But on the
flip side, though, and we all said it, Eagles scored
three points in the second half, and Gavone did play
the second half, so maybe adjustments and shit and stuff

(18:32):
got in his ear and a coach got in his ear,
and maybe they did a few adjustments because that defense
was a completely different defense in the second half.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, right, and you got it.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And you also have to credit I mean, look again
for fantasy people, and you know, like, but the yardage
matters Saquon Barkley outside of scoring, which obviously sucks, but
like sixty yards right, like, so.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
All the running backs to under one hundred.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right, and that and that right there leads me to
believe that, you know, I'm And again, you can't ask
any real true diehard Cowboys fan who who will be
bleeding this trade for the next three years. Can't tell
me like, ooh see, we don't need Micah, Like, look,
we saw what Micah could do, we saw him on
the Packers game. But what I'm saying is to clog

(19:17):
up the middle like Kenny Clark and like Osa did
is exactly what you need.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Because if you.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Flushed them out nine times out of ten, if you
haven't overshown or you have him iced in there the
entire time. Who won't let Jalen Hurts do his little
scamper around, you know what I mean, Like they'll pop
them once, he'll think twice about doing it again. So,
like I think the middles of the of the defensive interior,
where we lacked the most the last two years, that
looked pretty solid to me.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Look, you're not going to face many quarterbacks this year
like Jalen Hurts, and that's why he is top five.
I mean he's he's an elite quarterback. And we we
had a decent pass rush. I think we had a
total of twenty total pressures, but half of those were

(20:07):
when we were unblocked.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Or in a clean up pressure.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Okay, but when we get Neeland, Kenny Clark, Malie Hooker
were the ones that Schottenheimer said he stood out. They
they had a sixty five point seven grade in a
pass rush, which wasn't bad. Okay, we couldn't contain them
because I mean you also got to look at their weapons.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I mean, you know didn't.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
But that's the thing. They didn't even target aj Brown.
They didn't target them. Their biggest play was to because.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
We were shut We were shutting down, man, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So like we got And I'm not going to be
an apologist for Trayvon Diggs because there's too many plays
I saw him completely, not not in this game.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I'm saying in the past where I'm like, oh, he's
a change man.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Trayvon Diggs, who we talked about all preseason about will
he be ready when we see him by Halloween? We
don't know yet, right all the other ship and then
he comes out there and puts the clamps on guys
like AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith. You got to give
it up for Trayvon Digson, you got to give it
up for Bland, and you got to give it up
for the guys that were really hustling out there, which
is a very positive sign considering you're not gonna have

(21:10):
to face AJ Brown DeVonta Smith every week.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
I know it sounds crazy, but the injury might have
made him pull back more on the overcommitte because he
was always going for the pick. He was taking himself
a lot of times, you know, he'd go for the
ball and get burnt or now he's like, look, I'm
not one hundred percent. So let me just keep it basic.
I mean, that's just me speculating. You know, when you're

(21:37):
when you don't have your full powers, sometimes it makes
you play fundamentals different.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, and he had a phenomenal game. Man, Digs have
a great So.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Look, there are bright spots to take from this. The
Cowboys did lose. That's the that's the part that really matters, right, And.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
It's how we lost. And and it's maybe you can
go back.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's the thing. You can go back, and you can
pinpoint like and I've said this to a couple of
my friends, I said, you replay that game with the
same scenario like Jalen Carter out blah blah blah. We
win that game by ten plus. And I'm just saying
that as maybe not too much of an optimistic fan,
but like, there's a lot of opportunities to score points
in that game. When I was like, dude, we definitely

(22:18):
shot ourselves in.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
The foot killed The fumble killed us.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
The fumble happened. Then the rain delay right, which helped
Dallas because the momentum was swung and Philly would have
probably went right down the field and then something stupid,
so the two hour rain delay. Then they come back
and they get the ball and they go three and out.
So it was like, okay, so that that you negate
the fumble, but you you missed your scoring opportunity. And
of course we talked about drops.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, we had some bullshit calls.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
The refs gave us. That taunting penalty was fucking awful.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, listen, that's what they cracked down on in the
NFL this year. You can't just you're talking to a
shit talker. Trust me.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Like what I'm saying though, is there was a lot
of things that worked in our favor and we we didn't.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
We didn't pull it out.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
And and to me, the main reason was seedy Lamb
And that can't be if that's your if that's your
number one and that's your elite receiver and you drop
three in a row on key first downs and even
field position. I mean again, we we one of them.
We could have at least gotten three points out.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Of So, hey, Keith, what were you going to say?

Speaker 5 (23:29):
I don't remember. It's just it's just it's just funny
that it's I just I can't be sold on this
team still man, Well, because I bet you guys sound
very excited and all that, and I get it because
that's how fans are, that's how we are every week back.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's not so much exciting.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I'm not getting pulled in, bro, but no, no, I gotta.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
See it's not the exciting.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Remember, hold on, let me finish. All I remember is
last season me having to apologize for shipping, shipping on
the linebackers and the defense of the Browns, and then
the Saints come in and score seven straight touchdowns on us.
So I'm I'm I'm still we can talk about all this.
I'm letting you guys go because I mean, because I
think you're more equipped to brag about this team than

(24:12):
I am. We're not bragging, it's excited about it. I'm
just I'm just I can't.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
But we're not.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
We're not.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
These are all facts.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I know.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
I got you, So go get get get the fans excited,
and then Scataboo. Scataboo is gonna come for two hundred
yards against.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I'm not getting excited.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
We're just saying what it is I mean for me
to say that we got some bullshit the Eagles got
bullshit calls in our favor that our Star Wars is fine,
But I meant, you know, I'm saying that there was
a keep.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Saying we should have won. We should have won. You know,
Trayvon Diggs, maybe his injury is reason why this isn't happening.
We're just making We're making all these excuses and it's like,
to me, they.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Are, Well, you're hearing a different podcast.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I'm not hearing a different podcast. I'm just saying you guys,
I'm not I'm just not gonna get. I'm letting you
go because you guys are making a lot of sense.
But it's it's it gets, it makes, it's it's more
positive than negative, which is fine because like I said,
when we opened, I felt like we shouldn't have lost
that game.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, here here's what I'll here's what I'll say. Here's
what I'll say about this. If the game was if
we did everything what we just said right, if we
we you know, ceedee lamb, drop balls, this, that and
the third right, and we're still but we got we
lost by twenty, you know, you'd be hearing a different tone,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like it's the fact
that we were that close.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
See here's my point all that too. It's like we're saying,
like even the Miles Sanders fumble and that's part of
the game, like drop passes. When I say it's part
of the game, it's that's what makes a team not
that good. What I'm trying to say is that you know,
you're you're, oh, you know, well, he dropped it, he

(26:04):
won't drop it again, he won't drop it next time.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Who said that? Fucking know who said that?

Speaker 5 (26:10):
No, I don't know, but I'm just saying no, I mean,
I mean, I mean, I'm not It just sounds that
way that this is this is the reason why we lost.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Like, let me run one.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
If this didn't happen, how do we know that's not
gonna happening.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
This is what this is what this is what average
teams do. They can't win in the end. They have
they have drop balls like that, you have bad plays,
you you just this is what they do. And that's
the whole thing with the Dallas Cowboys is that's why
I need to see more.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Well, we have we have fifteen teams that are want
to know, and we have fifteen teams that are.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
In one sixteen six.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, but how many teams, how many teams in the
NFC hasn't hasn't been to the NFC Championship in thirty years?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well, now you're just now you're just talking, you know,
but I'm just saying and that and that lies why
you can't see pasted it. And that's fine, Like you're
almost like your emotional program.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
That's why in lies why I am not.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yeah, okay, totally, you should just do the podcast and
say you know what we're Oh and one.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
You shouldn't you be you and I'll be me. That's
fucking That's.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
What I'm defending is I'm not being positive and I'm
not being negative. We we're quoting the bad things and
we're quoting the good things. We're in week one. We
gotta go now against the Giants.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
We gotta get that.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
But but but last fucking last season, we're just we
We thought we had Doomsday defense three after fucking after
the after the Cleveland game, and it was the same thing.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
That's my problem.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
No, hold on, I remember I can I remember verbata? Man,
there's just a different vibe on this defense.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Man.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
This Yeah, that's telling you. It's the attitude.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You could see the way right around now, right around now,
you got to watch them from the skylines. Man, you
gotta watch down from the sideliness. So much fun.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
I'm going on record is saying last year and there's
receipts after we beat Cleveland and I wasn't impressed with
the offense.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
The defense obviously played good.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
We know that, bro.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Okay, So what I'm saying is, I'm I'm indifferent to
the result of what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Now I'm excited. I'm not attacking you.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
No, because this is this is a fair podcast, and
you know, and okay, that's what that's all right?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
But here key, all right, So I'm gonna I'm.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Gonna it's a fair podcast. When Brett picks them to
go fifteen and one into the super Bowl two years ago,
that's that's that's a fair podcast.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
And I really thought they were gonna be I thought.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I was last year, all right, So Keith, with you
being the way you are, why are you the way
you are?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like, with you feeling this way towards the Cowboys? Can
they and I'll transition to the Giants because that's where
we're at now. It's week two. We got to move
on right, like, it's whatever. We'll take the positives, we'll
stuff them in our little positivity jar, and we're just
gonna move right on to the giants. Now. Is there
anything that we can show this week coming up to you,
Keith that would happen?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
And I'm not going to ask you to buy in.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm just going to say, like, all right, two weeks
in a row of this, and you're going to start
to you feel a certain way about the work.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
I mean, it has to start. You know, we have
to start with a win, you know, I mean, going
and getting into the gen.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
The result of the game is the only thing that's
going to really sway you in.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
A yeah, And it depends how we win. I mean
there's a lot behind it. But bro, if we shut
them out forty four nothing, Okay, if we shut them
out forty four nothing, then you know, I don't I
meant even then, depending on how it goes, depends how
the game is for me to continue to build confidence,
but I'm stick, you know, so I meant, And then

(29:44):
you know, we talk about the positive. It's great, I
mean we can because that was a lot of positive.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It's fine and what's that and our negatives?

Speaker 5 (29:53):
We mean, yeah, and the negatives. But I'm just saying
I just don't, you know, it's hard for me to
get excited after what has happened.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Because but the reason why I ask you that is
because of what we saw from the Giants last week
against Washington, where they came out very flat, right like offensively,
They couldn't get anything going. You got Molik Neighbors about
to punch the coach in the face, you got Russ
Wilson looking a little older than what he's looked like
in the past, right, and their running game just never
got off to a start. They're on the road right now,

(30:21):
they're going on the road again to Dallas. So to
your points, you know, I don't know if there's anything
that the Cowboys can do, like if the Cowboys do
like all right, So for instance, I'm sorry to like
keep spinning this, but like you just said that, that
was one of the better games that you've seen.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Dak Prescott play.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
If he goes out there and does this similar thing
and we actually cash in a lot more than we
did last week, could you start to think that Dak
Prescott is starting the trend in the right direction or
is it like it's the Giants.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Though, No, I will never say that about an NFL team. Okay,
I'm never gonna say, Oh, it's just that, especially with quarterbacks,
you know what I mean. I mean, I mean you say, oh,
it's just them. I meant, you know, it's more the
significance of a game than the team, you know. But no,
I mean we're still early in the season, you know.
But I meant, yeah, I meant I if I'm looking

(31:13):
at this game, all right, I watched a condensed game
there it is, guys in Washington late last night when
I got home, because I wanted to see exactly what
happened in Giants defense is good, guys, They're not bad
at all.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Okay, helped Washington a fourteen all game.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, and that's the whole thing it was. It was
a close game in the fourth quarter. If they if
those of Tracy Porter and Scataboo come out once again,
we're we're favored by six.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
You see six, we're minus six.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh, I saw four, and I was like, so, but if.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
They come out with that fucking NFL high we're playing
the Dallas Cowboys, it's as fuck because they only ran
the ball like seven ten times to the Giants. I
don't know what they were thinking.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's on they're playing from behind a lot.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
But they weren't though, that's my whole point.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
But they were down all game, it's just a matter
of but they weren't.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
But they still could put a drive together. It's not
like it was like thirty to fucking three, right, do
you know what I mean? So and key here the
offensive line for the Giants watching, they're not that good.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Okay, no they're not.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
They didn't look too good. But what can help that
is a different quarterback behind there.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
And if they don't think they make the Jackson Dart.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Forget Jackson Dart, Jameis Winston's there.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Well, well, Jackson Dart as listed as the two.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
I know it is, but that would scare me. If
I'm more scared of Jameis Winston getting in.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
That game, well he won't. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
You never rule, what do you mean? It's a rule.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's the emergency three.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
The two quarterbacks in front of him have to get hurt.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
He's an emergency three.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I thought he was just like the quarter quarterback on
a on a depth chart thing.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
No, he's the emergency three. I mean, you have two
quarterbacks in your emergency third.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
So so wait.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
A second, So if you have a three quarterbacks on
the roster, automatically that the second one has to get
hurt in order for that third one to get in.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Yes, so wait, they can't say, hey, we're gonna make
an adjustment move.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, even if Jackson Dark starts to suck, they.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Listening as the emergency three, which he is.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, but isn't there isn't there is? But I thought
it wasn't that cut and dry and meaning like something
has to be designated that like if like if they
already have enough on the roster.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So you're not an emergency three and it's just listed
as a third quarterback.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, that's a tricky, tricky question, and I don't know
the rule off top of my head, but I'm trying
to I'm in my mind, Well that's what I'm saying.
I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about Jameis Winston getting in
the game because I think first two got to get
knocked out.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I will
be impressed. If the Cowboys win this game by double digits,
I'll be very impressed double digits only only because of
the whole were favorite. It's the Giants had a shitty game.
They're going to be coming in hot automatically, Cowboys. The
Dallas Cowboys are here. We're said not they're not hearing.

(34:09):
But the energy is, Hey, we played a good game.
You know, people actually think that, you know, we could
maybe do it, you know, that kind of thing. I
know athletes think differently, but I'm just saying the Giants
coming in to Dallas is as underdogs is a test
for the Cowboys because once again we haven't done shit,
and I'm just worried about that. That mentality of just

(34:32):
coming in, you know, just not SIPs.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
It's just like any other NFC East game. I don't
give a shit what the spread is. It's NFC East,
like the familiarity between the two teams, like, look, the
Giants haven't give us a push in years, right, and
that's just the way it is. But the Giants to
me going in, I picked the in my mind and
talking to a couple of people, I said, I'm not
going to be surprised if the Giants going to Washington
and win that game. I honestly thought that there was

(34:55):
a shot, right, but there wasn't enough offense and there
wasn't enough production out of their receivers or they're running
game or anything. So look, Cowboys are coming in obviously
with a little bit of a yeah, we should have,
should have, should have, should have kind of mentality. I think.
But yeah, like you said, Keith, if if the Cowboys
take care of business as they are quoted should according

(35:18):
to Vegas, like you, you're a touchdown favorite. If you
go in there and you win the game thirty to twenty,
and you win by double digits, and you win by ten,
you're like, oh, you know what, we did what we
should have did, right? But but there in lines that
that dreaded. Okay, if we start going too.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
What I say, there's a difference between me saying I'm
be impressed because I don't think I still think we're
I still think we're an average team. We are we are,
So that's why I be impressed. If we beat them
by double digits, that's all I'm saying. If we win,
I'm still impressed, but I'm just not like, oh, you know, okay,
this is this is good, you know, like you know

(35:55):
it's it's one of those it would be it would.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Be prototypical Cowboys for him to to look good against
the Eagles and then fall flat on their face against
the Giants.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Is going to say, is are we the same team
as last year? Right? And if we lose, yeah we
are again?

Speaker 6 (36:12):
This all this all depends on dak to me, and
my biggest complaint about that was his consistency right now.
He played an amazing game against the Eagles, like I said,
great at high probably the one of the highest in
the league, made all the right decisions, no stupid passes,
was just played perfect as perfect you could against the

(36:35):
Super Bowl champions. But with where the concern still lies,
and it goes to keys point, which I was going
to say, we gave good teams win the games they
don't get They don't lose games, they win games, and
we lost that game. It's kind of like the Bears
last night. You know they were up, they gave the

(36:56):
game away. I mean, look look what the Ravens did
against Buffalo. Good teams find a way to win. They
don't shoot themselves in the foot. And to me, I
don't give a fuck that CDs out there catching passes
on their day off.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
That means nothing to me.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
But it means nothing. It means nothing. If you play
the game, it means nothing.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
So excited about It's not excitement, it's just it's just
all Listen.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
What was my biggest gripe with Trayvon Diggs last year?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
What was my biggest break?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Take it the biggest gripe.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
He never came out and.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Tapped him or effort, just fucking effort.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So you're telling me that the dude is saying, you
know what, Fuck this, That's not who I am. I
gotta go catch passes. I gotta go to the drugs machine.
I gotta keep putting in an extra work that's not
for press.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
Let me let me make a point here, Dave, that
that means nothing, means nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Okay, I'll give you a good example.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Lynn Swan is in the Hall of Fame not because
of his season production, is because of his postseason production.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Actually Stalwart was the better receiver during the season. Lynn
Swan stepped it up when when he had to that
they even called it the Swan catch. You you're it's
one thing to be catching balls from a machine. It's
another thing when your team needs you and it's a
and and it's an important.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Down and you drop the ball.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
That's that's where there's so many great practice players in
college and in the NFL, guys that are just doing
what they have to do.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
And when that moment comes that you.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
Work for, you can't go my bad, my bad. That
That's that's where it matters. That's where the players are built.
That's where it made Jordan different than any other player
was his consistency in every quarter. He shot the same
from the tip of the ball to the last second.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, but I'm a Jordan guy, trust me when I
tell you that. Now.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'm just saying, when you're looking at the greats, it's
consistency and it's coming when you need. Like Irvin on paper,
Irvin is not. It isn't a physical best of men.
He was slow, he was compared to other receivers. He
just catches that ball and that's your job. And that's
a concern for me now and it always has been.

(39:10):
You know, CD is a great slot receiver. He's one
of those guys you get them and get those yards
for you. But when when he's you got to be
clutch and three drop fucking balls is a concern.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
So I wanted to bring something up real quick.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
It's mental, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
I kind of I agree. I agree with Brett and
to say it's not a press thing, I don't know either, Starch.
I mean, you found out, you know, it's like and
I know I'm not saying that's why he's doing it,
but he knows. He knows that the word's going to
get out. You know what I mean. I mean inside
you know that it's like, I get it, but he's
just not good. But I just want to I just
want to talk about one game broke. I gotta go

(39:49):
pretty soon. But the one thing I want to talk
about real quick, and it's a non Dallas Cowboy related
was the Bills in the Ravens game the other night
and the coaching by the Bills head coach that what
he did at the end with that field goal I've
never seen before. That was so basically they had Remember

(40:11):
they had uh uh, they made the Ravens burn all
their timeouts. There was thirty eight seconds left. They could
have spiked the ball, but no, they ran out there
and let the clock go. You remember you saw the
remember starch, they could have kicked it on third down.
They didn't kick it on third down. They let it
go all the way to the end, so they did

(40:32):
not want Lamar Jackson to get the ball back. I've
never seen a coach do that.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Ever, Well, what about.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
What about what about the signal? What about the signal.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
To come out of the end zone?

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that was that was last
about the Bills and the Ravens. Yeah, but that final
minute I've never seen. And that's the kind of coach
I'm hoping and I want to bring that up. I'm
hoping because those kind of decisions shot he's gonna make,
because Jason Garrett would definitely, the other McCarthy, all these

(41:07):
other guys. I've never seen somebody strategically in a position
like that watching the NFL my whole life. To think
that was okay and it ended up being okay, I
just thought that was amazing. I mean, I don't know
if you guys don't know what I'm talking about the
last drive of the Buffalo.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Game, Keith, I was gonna steal your point and make
the perfect face. But the other point that Keith made
was the adjustments in the second half of our defense,
and that was really fucking impressive.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's Matt Eberflus. So whatever he did at halftime, it worked.
And again there was a quote that they said when
they came out, and it was a couple of the
corners and the blindbacker saying, unleash us, unleash us is
that's that's something that the sideline reporter heard, basically saying
send the blitz, Like, if we're not getting there with four,
just just blitz some people, right And as soon as

(41:59):
we started put in some extra looks, some stunts, all
of a sudden it was a different game. And Jalen
Hurts wasn't running rampant and Barkley wasn't doing shit, and
they weren't completing passes. So whatever that was, right, you
got to continue to build off that. You can't just say, Okay,
we're a really good second half team. I hate that shit. Like,
there's one thing that Cowboys showed last Thursday was that

(42:20):
they came out firing.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
They came out scoring points with nothing.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Don't you realize I don't know if you guys saw
this or heard this, because I know you're at the pool,
so I don't know if you're listening to commentary, but
yesterday or I'm sorry, Thursday was the first opening Like
they had one opening drive touchdown last year, one for
the whole season. For them to do it on their
opening drive was like what the fuck? You know what

(42:45):
I mean? Like, So for me, that was like, okay,
here we are, like we're gonna play some offense. Now.
They look great on offense. They made the necessary defensive adjustments.
I just don't want those slow star bullshit against the
Giants where we're like, okay, we're only down four at halftime,
what do we gotta do? Would?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I don't want any of that nonsense.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Check it out, bro before you go. I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I'm just giving. I gotta give you my score and
what I think, and then you guys can go ahead
and you got to I don't know how long much longer.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Going to be, but we'll take it home after this.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
I just believe that I believe that this game is
going to be a lot closer than we think. I
think the Giants are going to come out with a
different mentality. I think we're gonna come out flat.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I'm gonna I.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Think we're gonna be worried this is just my gut feeling.
But I do think we pull it out. I would say,
how I look at it is we either we're either
gonna We're either going to lose, or we're only gonna
win by little. And I say, I say, if you
had a gun to my head, I say, we win
by a little. I'll give you a score. I'll say

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eighteen eighteen fourteen, something like that.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Brett, you want to follow that with a prediction.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
I think, if again, if my what was it, if
my aunt had balls should be my uncle. If if
Dak plays consistent again, I think we win, maybe like twenty.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
One to ten.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I was leaning on that towards that score too.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Now if we have the same concerns with you know, again,
everybody did what they had to do, you know, and
like I said, CD was getting separation.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
He just was dropping the ball.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
If there's the other thing I'd like to see, I
like to see maybe and even though Miles had that
great run, I'd like to see Jaden Blue in there.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, see if he has a week of practice where
Schottenheimer thinks he deserves it. I don't know, it's weird.
It's a weird dynamic right now. With that running back room.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
It really is the way Javonte's running.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
If we could keep pounding the ball, setting up the pass,
keeping with the pre snat motions on offense. Defensively, you know, again,
our pass rush wasn't that great, it wasn't bad, but
our run stop was good. And again take carrying over
this into this game. This game will tell a lot
of how we are as a team. And and if

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we're gonna be running like a well oiled machine, I mean, look,
there's gonna be mistakes, you're gonna you're gonna get beat
every now and then. It's you're playing against other great people.
But it's the consistency that I'm that I'm being looking for.
But I I I think.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
We should we should do well against the Giants. I
think we should win by double digits.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
The only team bringing that up, the only team that
like looked completely awful on both sides of the ball,
and I don't understand it. It was the Dolphins. That's it.
Every other team has something to build on.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like I don't know what call to the first team
in NFL history to score on every drive. Ever, like
every every offensive drive that came away with points.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
You remember in the beginning of the season.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
Last year Eagles were two and two and we're like,
you know what, what kind of team is this?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then they they won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
That's the whole point, Like, can.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
You imagine if we were Dolphins? Because every every team
the Browns could have won. I'm at the Giants defense
played well, like everybody has something like the Dolphins could
have shit.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think I think McDaniels better watch his ass, to
be honest with you, and asked, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Just listening at starch. I'm gonna I can't wait to
hear your prediction off the air. All right, I gotta go.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
All right, I was going to ask you, what what
team do you think We're the closest to parallel?

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Like the Raiders after Boys? Yeah, Like, is there a
team that that were.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
The Buccaneers I liked? I like the Bucks Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, I like the Bucks a lot.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I like the Bucks.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
May feel Mayfield plays awesome games like Dak and then
he you know, then he has those games where you're like,
I don't understand where did you go? What happened?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know?

Speaker 5 (46:34):
But all right, I go to the Bucks. All right, guys,
I'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Take care Keith. If I had, if I had to
put a score on it, you got him twenty one ten,
he's got him eighteen fourteen. I had that. I had
like a twenty three thirteen type score. Or you know, listen,
the Giants might go up seven nothing, the sky might fall,
and people were like, what the fuck right because they
haven't They couldn't put shit together last week.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Look, you could play out every scenario. I know.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
My brother was like, we're being fans. We're not being fans.
We're just taking what we got from game one and
we're carrying over to game two.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Last season. Doesn't even matter, even though we saw.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
What we can implode. But we should win this game.
And I didn't touch the Redskins and Giants game.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I didn't know which team.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
I didn't know if it was gonna be the Redskins
from or whatever the fuck they are from the NFC
Championship game, or if it was going to be.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
The Giants.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
The Giants looked like they were improving. I didn't know
which team was going to show. The only team that
really fucked me on my card was Detroit.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, and you know what, that was their first game
without Ben Johnson and another defense and without Aaron Glenn.
So both coordinators gone, and all of a sudden, the
Detroit Lions weren't humming like they would normally hum. But yeah,
for for the like, like Keith said, the Giants defense,
I thought going into that game was going to be
better than they were last year, right, And I thought

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for three and a half quarters of that game, when
it's fourteen to six and they're literally just to score down,
all the Giants had to do is get down the
field and score a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
They couldn't do shit right. Offensively, they look bad, but.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
The defense held the Commanders who are a little bit
more of a high powered offense. Now now you add
guys like Deebo Samuel and shit like that they have.
They have multiple weapons and multiple ways to beat you,
including their quarterback who also has legs, better legs than
Jalen Hurts. So for the Giants to contain all that shit,
that worries me a little bit because I'm like, Okay,

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we went out there and put twenty up on the
Eagles in the first half and then just you know,
disappeared in the second half.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Oh we drops, we get that's a big allah like, yeah, no, no,
you're looking at the play calling, and you're looking.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
At play calling. I have no problem with whatsoever you're saying.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
We called. They called a great game.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
Like my brother brought up Eberflus, the adjustments at the
second half were phenomenal. I don't know what kind of
game plan that we're going to go in if what
our first fifteen are what they say. You know, usually
have the first fifteen plays out, you know, and then
you get it.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Then you get the k Imagine imagine having to make
the adjustment like the Cowboys had to do, Like they
didn't even play out running the ball like that until
they're like, oh wait, Jalen Carter's not there.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
We realize Look, like I said, we were set up
and that's my red flag. We were set up to win.
And when Carter got ejected, I was like, oh shit,
that's huge right then because he's going up against a
fucking rookie offensive lineman. Then we had a lot of
their calls that they got that they gave us were bullshit.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
That that taunting penalty was awful.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
It was like the call last night when they I mean,
the guy basically had his hands up and the tip
of his helmet touched his face.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
I mean, how do you control that?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I think, but you also can't do it either. You know.
It's like, well it was it was.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
It wasn't like it was even a half second.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
It was.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I'm with you on the on the physical aspect where.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
It was awful. He just flexed.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
Who the fuck cares they do?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It's the NFL is the no fun league for a reason. Man,
Like those days of standing over him like Ray Lewis
or Brian Dawkins or some ship and just flexing and ship,
those are done right, they're crazy crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I think it's horrible because I'm I'm I'm an old
school soul like you.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Guys like I would rather have guys getting clean, you know,
their heads clocked like you want to protect.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
It's like an abuse of a rule. The rules there
to protect players, right, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I don't listen. I don't want to hear any more
about player safety because now they change the kickoff to
encourage more kickoff returns, when that's when the dynamic kickoff
was supposed to encourage less collisions and this that and
the third and nobody running full speed. Okay, fine, but
there was some fucking wood being laid last week. With
this week one, there was a lot of people getting

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fucking crushed on the kickoffs. So I don't want to
hear about player safety anymore.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
The point is is that we we lost this game,
and we were set up to win, even the fucking
rain delay.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I was like the thunder. I'm like, dude, this is
all meant to be.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
They got and and don't get me wrong with Jalen
Carter getting it, he needed to be jack. That's a
fucking If that was on the street, that's misdemeanor assault.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
He can't spit on something.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
If that was on the street, he also probably would
have been choked.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
We we uh.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
I mean we used to spit like a lot of times,
like if when I'm locked up, I would spit in
the guy's face. And you know, there was always dirty
shit going on on the field. My grandfather's generation, they
used to put tax in their hands, like under the tape,
so they had tax.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I mean, I've heard stories about Romanowski like underneath the pile,
like breaking fingers. Yeah, they like a nice finger got
there just taking it. Hourt and and other people checking
for oil. If you know what I'm talking about Yeah,
there's some fucking crazy shit that happens at the bottom
of a pile. But we always one of the franchise
quarterbacks of the league.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
You can't do what you did. You just can't. And
I don't give a fuck how many loogies were smitting
in front of you, blah blah.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Blah, And there's no justification to say, really, he's spit
on the ground.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I mean it was because he looked up and saw
him and smiled. That's why they're like, oh, you know, Daileen.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Carter's it was a dumb move by him. That was stupid.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Anyways, we were set up to win and we didn't,
and and we shot ourselves in the foot, and our
number one playmaker quote unquote is the main reason, because look,
and this is a game.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Of of of inches, as you heard it is.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
It's a game of it always could come down to
the last drive, right, And when you get you pay
your players, you get these superstars quote unquote, and that's
when they differentiate themselves. I was from earning that money
because you're getting paid playmaker, super fucking Hall of Fame

(53:08):
quote all pro money. And when it matters is when
you're supposed to make that money worth it.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
And listen, I can't disagree with you in that game away, right.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
And.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
I'm not putting CB down. But like my brother said,
and he has, he has a track record of this.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
So catching twenty since twenty twenty, he leaves the NFL
and drops.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
And catching balls on your day off has nothing to
do with the mental game and has nothing like Michael
Irvin on did you hear what he said when I
was born to cash footballs? When the doctor went to
slap me.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I caught his hands.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
But when you notice Irv on the sideline at the
Hurricanes game, and and you know what they even said, Mike,
Mike's those types of receivers are fucking built differently. And
those guys, the Marvin Harrison's and the Jerry Rices and
and those those Because I'll be honest with you, Randy
Moss to me, as great as an athletic as he was,

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if he wasn't as athletic, would he be that good?
And I know that's a weird question to ask. We
know Michael Irvin wasn't the most athletic guy.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
So when you're talking.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
About that rocky moment and that heart that that you love,
it's in guys like Irvin.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
It's in guys like Jerry Rice.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Okay, we need and that's why Pickings. We need to
spread that ball around more.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, and I think guy.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Tobert, in my opinion, was at a position a lot.
You know, give a guy like Florine in there and
Tolbert's had his shots, Yes, and we got it. We
need that big body come down with the ball. Fucking
third and two or third and four in traffic.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
That's that's what we need. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
We'll see what they pull with the Giants, obviously, Like yeah,
through the recency bias, the Cowboys have done rather well
against the New York Giants. But new Year, New Year,
New Year. It's September football. Anything can happen.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
To me in December January when it's the.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Last game of the year and we're like, we should
run through these guys or they might beat us. Like
but right now, it.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
Was a different deck that I've seen in all the
years playing in this game. Like he said, guest games
he had this year than all last year. It's one
of the best games I've seen him play. Maybe Pittsburgh,
I'll give him.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
That and he threw some picks against Pittsburgh, you know
what I mean. So it's like, but like I've been
trying to tell, I mean, look, I'm not going to
convince anybody off of one game because it just doesn't
exist that way. But I've been saying Dak off injury.
He just he's a different cat. And I think that
we saw a little of it in the first week,
and hopefully we continue to see it, because that's what's
gonna be. It's gonna take that. It's gonna take Dak

(55:59):
press got to beat Dak Prescott, the good Dak Prescott
to beat all these teams coming.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Up, you know, he shot.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
It doesn't get any easier down the stretch, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Like, we got to make sure that this guy's right,
and the offensive line a couple pressures here and there,
they kept them up right. That's something that you just
didn't expect, even if Jaalen Carters in that game, Like
Dak Prescott was upright, he was getting rid of the ball.
There was a couple of times where I'm like, damn,
how to fuck you get rid of that ball, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
But and he got out of it. He was you know,
he got out of there a couple of times.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
Maybe Schottenheimer cracked the code. I mean, we were that
excited about the Texas offense when you know he started
heating up the first year and okay, well they you know,
we don't know. And that's a fucking sad thing to
say for your ten year quarterback that's allegedly an elite.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Well, like I said, I disagree with you.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
He played elite against the Eagles.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
And if he could keep that consistency, and I'm not
gonna fault him, You're gonna throw interceptions, You're gonna make
bad plays.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's it's part of the okay, it's when do you
make them?

Speaker 6 (57:02):
And he was putting together a game winning drive and
our number one played like number two on that last
fucking drive, like Dukie.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like Dukie and that number and this week yeah like Doukie.
Uh yeah. So do I plan on having having the
same conversation about Seedee Lamb next week? I don't. But again,
it's the NFL, who fucking knows. So we all got
the Cowboys winning this game against the Giants.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The line apparently a six. I thought it was four.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
So that after the Giants dub Bears in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah, and then we come on home for Sunday Night
football against Micah Parsons and the Green Bay Packers. So
it should be a lot of fun for the rest
of September. We'll figure it all out as we go
for Dave Stercio and Brett Ernst and of course the
grinch Keith Urns, who left us prematurely.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
But that's okay. Is at work is he's grinding away.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
This has been another episode of the Jersey Boys podcast
and we'll see you guys next time. Let's go Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcasts with your hosts Dave Sturshiew and the Erne Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit, but the Cowboys
were New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey. Anyways, Enjoy whatever