August 12, 2025 • 52 mins
It's not the end of the world, but Dave Sturchio & Bret Ernst are back to break down the Rams 31-21 loss on this week's episode of "The Jersey Boyz Podcast" ! The Grinch is on assignment so it's definitley a more positive one! However, the Cowboys have some holes to fill for sure! We break down what we liked, what we didn't like, and somewhere along the line have a debate about Jerry Jones and his "GM" skills, which, don't really exist. All this and more on a LOADED Episode! EnjoY! #DallasCowboys #JerryJones #NFL #JerseyBoyzPodcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys podcast. Were your host Dave stir Shield and the
Urch Boys? I mean, I can give a shit about
the Cowboys with New Jersey. These guys got bulls being
cowboys fangin Jersey anyways, enjoy well.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Whatever Cowboys Nation. How is everybody doing out there on
this fine Tuesday afternoons? We record this. It is August
the twelfth, another episode of the Jersey Boys Podcast Dave
Stirt Show alongside nationally no comedian Brett Ernst. We are
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officially zero to one. The season is doomed, by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I wants to see how how light the podcast is now,
Like we can have we could talk positive. There's no Grinch.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There's no Grinch right now. Hopefully he'll be joining us
in a little bit. He got tied up with some stuff.
But you know, I'm very interested to hear the Grinches.
Take a couple of things that went down on the Cowboys.
Rams lost thirty one twenty one to the Los Angeles Rams.
First and foremost, I hate the fact that I had
to listen to the RAMS broadcast, which was by far
the worst I've ever heard. Just the team of Like
(01:14):
I don't even know the play by play, guys, it
was brutal, brutal, and I understand, like a Homer, I
get that. Like but like we all everybody knows in
Cowboys Nation that Maurice Jones Drew does not like the Cowboys.
So you just felt like he was just way leaning
heavy on that. And then there was me what he
was saying was valid sometimes sometimes but not all the
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time anyway, that that that goes without saying. But anyway,
we saw a lot of things to really dive into
today as the Cowboys return to the practice field. They
have two padded practices this week, Tuesday and Wednesday. I
believe they'll do a walk through on Thursday and then
it's back to the field as we go home to
open up our home preseason schedule against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Now, what's the injury report? Anything good?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Bad? Uh? Nothing bad coming out of it. I was
worried about Joe Milton, to be honest, but then again,
it could have been worse. When Joe Milton was playing.
We'll get into Milton's play, but Milton banged his thumb up.
He's fine. There was a couple other things, but like
the biggest things for me was wondering who was going
to return to the practice field today. Believe it or not,
Tyler Geyton is doing walkthroughs already, so I know everybody
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was very scared about his availability for Week one still
kind of up in the air, but from all things
that we heard from Brian Schottenneimer, you know, things could
possibly trend in the right direction with him. Jaden Blue
is back to the practice field today, is not practicing,
but he is going through a little bit of a
stretch warm up off to the side. Thing. We need
him back. I want to see what he can do
in the preseason because before you know it, you know,
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you know this is as good as anybody, Brett. When
when you get replaced, you can get replaced fast in
the NFL, if if you're there, if you're out with
an injury, So you just gotta really be careful about that.
And I guess the.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Biggest fear is you've earned a spot, but you're not
a franchise player or a big contract player, right and
the guy you know, and then you get hurt and
the guy in front of you starts starts picking up
momentum they'll keep him man.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, and that's I fear that for guys like Deuce
Vaughan who was hurt for a little while. He did
get some burn in the game this past Saturday. But
you know, I'll start off with that. You know, we
talked about the running back room last week and Jayden
Blue being one of our I don't even want to
say high draft picks because we waited till like I
feel like, the fourth fifth round to get.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Him for me, but they're high on him.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're high on him, and he's got the speed and
burst that you need. Behind two veterans right now and
Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders is back on
the practice field today, which is good. Needed him back
to see if he can keep up with the young folk.
But the one that really stands out to me is
that we pick up Malik Davis off the street. Basically,
we put him in the game on Saturday, and all
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of a sudden, he may have the best burst out
of all of the running actually we saw on Saturday,
which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well he uh, what do you have like sixty something yards?
He was averaging like six something, crazy like nine yards
of carry.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, he had some bursts and uh, you got to
give it up for Pil MafA. Phil MafA came in there.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
He showed a lot of promise.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He's he's one of the bigger backs size wise, and
he's got that he can get. The ability to quote
get skinny in between the tackles was definitely a thing.
And there was a couple things that were called back
because of either holding penalties or formation penalties, which definitely
falls on the coach. I got to clean that shit.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Up theches in here. Let's start with the positives.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, yeah, the positives was that Phil MafA ran his
ass off, which is nice, looked good the straight up,
and Malik Davis looked good. You have to give credit
where credit is due. The one kid that's going to
be a starter on this team that played a lot
of football on Saturday, which I was kind of worried
about because I was like, all right, we know he's
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going to be on this team and started why why
keep playing him? Is Maurice leaf Al.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, he he balled out.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He is he is going to be something special just
the way he can read it's event and he attacks
the holes with with violence. You know what I mean,
And that's the kind of guy that you want in
a in a position room where we thought we're a
little weak at right now because of the fact that
you have over Sean hurt right you lost guys like
Kendricks from last year, so like the linebacker room, and
then you you add some guys, but then like this,
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it's a battle of the unknowns. The one known that
we have right now is watching Maurice ball out and
that dude's every time the ball was snapped, Brad, he
was around the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The other the other bright spots, Trey Shawn Holden, Uh,
you know he played well. And I'll tell you else
did is FLORINOI even though we had one reception, he
was open a lot and Milton was just you know,
he was off his game.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He was missing wide receivers. Why I mean wide open.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can't even say off his game because we really
don't know what his game is yet, you know what
I mean. He's so on, so new, but like he
was throwing ninety five mile per hour heaters to all
the routes. Whether it be a slant, a go dig,
it didn't matter. He was rocketing that ball.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's like he didn't have any touch. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Is that nerves? Is that the yips? Is it? You know?
Is that that?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is that the reason why we're dealing with that? I
don't know. But we did see the athleticism. We did
see him put some touch on the ball towards the
back end of the game before he got injured. So
I'm not so worried about that. Shout out to Will
Greer who came in who wasn't supposed to get any
playing time, and by design, he comes in uses his legs.
His arms aren't warmed up yet, so fuck it, use
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your legs and he scores a touchdown. So I was excited. WI.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, now he But the thing with Milton is, you
know it does And look in Dallas's defense, the Rams
are a good team. They got a good young defense man.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, and they're gonna be contenders this year.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Watch. Yeah, I could. I could definitely see that, because look,
if you're a team led by Sean McVay, it's not
going to be very long before you're back in the
fold and back into the mix.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
When the division last year, they won their conference, right
the division whatever, the NFC West they won.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, it was it was them, it was Seattle. They
were kind of going neck and neck. The Arizona fell
out of favor. The Niners had a bunch of bad injuries.
So that division, to me, the NFC West is wide
open for the taking. And I think the Rams, you know,
being that Stafford is getting a little older. You know,
you still have some young receivers out there doing their thing.
They lose Cooper Cup, but yeah, defense is definitely young,
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and they fly around the ball and they look. There
was no you know, not a lot of time for
Milton to you know, kind of read. He just kind
of starts slinging on a round. So we really didn't know.
Couldn't really get a good judgment of the offensive line
because same thing with the defensive line. It was very
very quick releases by both teams on Saturday. For me
to be like, ah, we got no pass rush. It
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really first of all, nobody really played, and then second
of all, the guys who did play, you know, he
was just hike and then boom, slant route, dig route.
There's something quick, you know, So it wasn't we weren't
able to get home. And again you got to right,
especially when you're thin at corner. You got to get
home hopefully with four sometimes five. But you know, overall
the Cowboys they held their own, they competed to the end.
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Schottenheimer was very happy with a lot of guys. You
mentioned Holden, and I'm very interested to see because the
day after the press conference after the game, Shottenheim or
might have even been postcame press conference, but Schottenheimer basically
said that this dude's about to move up the depth chart.
And that's interesting to me because of the fact that
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you did trade a fourth round pick for guys like
Jonathan Mingo. You're still kind of waiting for Jalen Tolbert
to come around. Now. Look, you can't discredit some of
the Tolbert stats from last year. I think he scored
seven times last year, so Tolbert had himself a fine year. However,
you know, if you started finding, you know, catching lightning
in a bottle behind all these guys as your fifth
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and six receivers, now you've got a problem. It's a
good problem to have, because you know, I mentioned this
on Twitter, and I think that it could be a
thing if holding can emerge as somebody goold, and then
you have Mingo who's a body receiver. And then you
obviously at the top you got CD and George Pickens.
Then you start looking at a Tolbert as a possible
trade candidate, somebody that we might want to unleash to
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go help other sides of the field, meaning defensive tackle, cornerback,
something like that, because that's where they need help.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Watch, McCall had a good game. I can't say his last.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Name, say his first name.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's even harder.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, fine, we're going I told you guys in the chat,
I was like, let's just call him Izzy going forward
because it's impossible. Yeah, great pick, athletic pick, a great pick.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know. For the Uh, let's talk about the negatives.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
There were none.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
A lot of mental errors, a lot of dumb penalties,
that's all coaching, man. And the play calling was awful.
And I know we discussed it in the text and
you're like, yeah, well he said he's going to keep
it Vanilla. It's not the place. It wasn't the plays
so much as the play calling. I mean, I think
we passed seven times in a row at one point.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, but I also think that if you're trying to
get Milton, it doesn't matter, man, I mean, it's it's
the the purpose of preseason is not only just to
see talent, but his game management.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's also uh you know, situational calling, especially when MafA
was running. I mean I think there was a third
and three or something. We ended up passing three and out.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, that type of stuff worries me. I know,
Shaty's a new coach, new head coach. It's his really
his first game too. You know, there's you want to
be optimistic, but you also want to be real and
I wasn't. I wasn't happy with the play calling. I mean,
we had no rollout passes really because I bet Milton
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could throw on the run.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh Milton, listen, there's no mistake about it. Milton could
throw the ball ninety yards on a rope. And that's
not even I'm not fabricating that he can do something
like that, Right, he's got an ell of an arm.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know what else, if you're too young to remember
and he played for Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Wait, don't tell me, Jeff George no at farv Yeah yeah,
well well you said, well, first of all, he played
for Atlanta, like that that got rid of. But like
if anybody knows him, they know him for as a packer.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Like no, but I'm saying it's why they got rid
of him in Atlanta. He could just throw the ball
into the stands. He would just arm it out all
the time. And you know, uh, I think Lanville used
to make bets, used to make bets with him. So yeah,
as far as how far uh Brett Farv could throw
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the ball, dude.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But and Romo was like that too when he first
got in there. Romo was.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, but Romo still, man. I meant, look again, it's
it's one game. The only game we have to go
on is when Milton started for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He had a great game, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And he was accurate in practices and drills.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He cast them. He cost them the first overall pick.
Thanks Joe. Uh But I mean it's a small sample size,
so I don't get too too crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean, listen, you wanted when when you saw the
Rams play that was their first game and they were
firing man on all cylinders with their backups.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Stetsan Bennett, He's he's all of a sudden, he's a
cowboy killer. That's two years in a row. Now, I
feel like he's doing damage in the presets.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
They're running backs to man. I mean they were getting
some yards on us what's his name, the big the
starter kid.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, that was that was one of the one of
the big things that Schottenheimer had pointed out is that
you know, it's it's one thing that you have the
guys on your roster who you feel like can do
their jobs as far as you know, the role of
a defensive tackle nine times out of ten is yeah,
you get pressure, but you also you've got to clock
some holes, right, you just got to be a big
body and not get pushed back. There was too many
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times where the Cowboys defensive tackles were getting pushed back.
They couldn't get pad level, they couldn't get any pressure
up up northern side. It was just boom. They were
just getting drilled back. And that's why you got five
six yards at a clip. Clearly, clearly we can't have
that in the regular season. But again, you know, you
hope that there's there's.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
A Trader kid had fifty nine yards, Hunter had forty one,
and that Quorum kid had thirty two yards. So they
had a hundred yards yet, which is not a good sign.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh but again I think that with they have some
big bodies down there, I don't know if they're going
to be capable bodies. I know there's a lot of
people out there that are given a lot of shit
to guys like Mazie Smith, and you know, he comes
back lighter and like he's in a better shape. But
sometimes that's not always beneficial when you're a defensive tackle
one tech, you know what I mean, Like if you're
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right over the center or the right over the guard,
like you have to be able to push that offensive
line back in pursuit of the ball carrier. And that
just wasn't the case for Masie, and it hasn't been
the case for Mazie since I got here. You muted.
You muted for a second there. I don't know if
you We.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Had ninety nine yards total rushing with the running backs.
With Milton we had one hundred and twenty one yards rushing.
So if you take away quarterbacks running right, I mean
overall are running backs, I think we had over one
hundred yards. Yeah, because Duce Vaughan had eleven. I'm looking
at the stats now, little Duce. But anyways, the mental
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errors is what is what worries me. You know, and
then that stupid penalty on Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, first of all, like I don't even know
who to blame. I guess blame Lamb. He can't be
that close to the sidelines, especially when you're not dressed
like it would have been typical cowboys fashion if we
lost Lamb for like four games due to back spatter,
because because of that, you know that god he got yeah,
is that guy he got up and said, You're like,
I'm good, Everything's fine. But like at that time, I
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saw the replay and I'm like, oh my god, the
whiplash on that fucking hit. The referees plowed him over,
and I'm like, come on, dude, that's a typical cowboys
thing to happen to us one hundred percent. But look,
man like, like I said, there was, there's position battles
you have to worry about, or at least have to
get a little excited about. You know, we talked about
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Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens as the one in the two,
but I think it's very, very apparent that you have
to start working in in your mind, you have to
start working in Cavante Turpin as your potential three to
four right, because he's gonna be on the field for
some gadget plays. He might line up in the backfield.
That guy is a Swiss Army knife and he's the
fastest dude on the field. So if you want speed,
you have to have Turbin out there. So it's really
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a matter of how many roster spots they want to
designate to the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'm not worried about our offense as much as the defense.
And I sent you a video of somebody talking about,
you know that linebacker we picked up from Chicago. Yeah,
we need a heady linebacker. That's that's what he referred
to it as. Because we're not investing in the big
bodies up front, and the d line is going to
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be another problem. I mean edge rushing we got, it's
the middle man, and if we don't have big bodies
getting penetration or or protecting that second layer right of
our linebacking corps, if they're just getting blown out, and
then you have other offensive linemen getting to that second
layer and getting interfering with the with the linebackers. We
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need a guy that can see the play before the
play develops, and the kid from Chicago is the one.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think it's called steal unleashed. It's the video I
sent you, Okay, but he he hits the nail on
the head with that. And it's a big problem because
it all starts up front. If we're not getting penetration
and we're not getting uh a decent pass rush, our
our our dbs are gonna get burnt. It happens to
every dB. I don't care who you are, unless you're
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Dion who is arguably the best cover back. But in
today's game, where you know you can't even touch a receiver,
you're gonna get you're good. The receivers are gonna get open.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's it's you know, I think that's my design, to
be honest with you. The NFL wants more points, so
that's why the league is starting to trend towards that way.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Every since uh what you McCall it fantasy football so lucrative.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They love like prop bets like that. Yeah, man, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The rules are always have always leaned towards the offense,
except on the O line right which now they're letting
them hold.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I think if you're if you're a Micah Parsons enthusiasts.
You've you've watched it.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
All as you see it throughout the league.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You saw it in the preseason game.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yes, so they they allow them to hold. And and
now the defensive backs is the most difficult position in football.
First of all, you're you're you're moving in a direction
that's unnatural. As you're backpedaling. You don't know where the
play is going. The receiver knows where the play's going. Right,
the receiver is running forward, which is a natural, uh
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position to run right. And not only that, you can't
really touch them. You can't break them balls.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You got five five yards, You got five yards to
kind of do some work, maybe chuck them at the line,
but that's really all you got and even do. And
even when you chuck them at the line there, they're
still looking to call the hold on you.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So you know you don't want to press them because
you know, with the with the athleticism today too, it's
like you know, once once they get around you, you're done.
So you know you're playing that five yards back and
if you're even hitting him within say that five yards,
still flag you. You know, it's just a tough position.
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And our d line we have not really invested in
our big guys up front, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Why not yet. I mean, like again, like you hope
for guys like Solomon Thomas who've kind of showed that
he could be a d tackle, and you hope to
God at Mazi Smith can do something, and then you
hope that you hit on somebody in the sixth seventh round,
a couple of the bigger bodies. But again, like there's
a reason for all that. There's a reason that they're
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slipping to the sixth seventh round, you know what I mean,
Like they might weigh three fifty, but do they have
the technique to get what needs to be done? You
know what I mean? Like, so it does worry me
a little bit. I'm not gonna lie to you, like
the fact that the running game has been our achilles
heel on the defensive side of the ball for years now, right,
So like when are they going to address that? When?
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When is something going to give for that interior? And
when is like, look, you got a guy like Brian
Schottenheimer who today, as a matter of fact, I watched
his press conference like twenty minutes twenty five minutes long,
and he said that he doesn't have a he doesn't
have a staff full of yes men, which is which
really resonated with me because I'm like, you know, you
don't want a staff that's going to say like, oh,
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everybody's just giving their best effort. You know that everybody's
doing really well. You need guys that are going to
say like, hey, Shotty, listen what you have on the
field right now, it's not going to work for my
defensive line, Like it's it's not going to work. We
need something. We got to go to Jerry and say like, look,
this is what we need to do. But then you
got Jerry at his Netflix premiere and shit last night.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
So it's like, you know, and I saw a clip
of that Netflix with Jerry a sound bite he's like
with the Cowboys, it's a circus three hundred and sixty
five days a year.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, because he lives.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But you know what's great, I don't know if you
realize this or go back, and you know, there's a
lot of clips servicing because last night, like I said,
everybody was very jazzed up about the Netflix premiere and
the who's who were there, and you know, but guys
like Emmett and Mike were also there and they had
a couple words about the drought of the thirty year drought,
like what what really crumbled the ninety two to ninety
(21:12):
three team after that? And it was it was simply
Jimmy Johnson, you know what I mean, Like you would
think about this and maybe you can agree it is
the biggest move in Cowboys all right past the seventies championships, right,
like because we won some Super Bowls with Landry stawback, she.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Went to five.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
We won two of them, right, but.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
We went to five and like ten years.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right, so, like we had domination at one point, right,
But when Jerry Jones got there in eighty nine, they
were a piss poor team, right. They went one in fifteen,
they had the number one overall pick and all that
and the rest is history. Everybody knows that. But do
you think Jerry's biggest acquisition of all time as a
Cowboys GM slash owner had to be the hiring of
Jimmy Johnson? Oh of course, right, I mean, like I
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don't give a shit who's out there, Like he made
sure Jimmy Johnson pulled the best out of each and
every player. And if you weren't willing to make adjustments
or do the thing. He cuts your ass and that's
it tee.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Jerry takes credit for that team, but you got to
remember too, most of those guys were Landry guys, even
Irvin Well.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, that was that was I think that was Irvan.
That was Landry's last pick, was it, or last year
of picking eighty.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Eight, No, it was, yeah, eighty eight eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, So then then that was that was the last
draft that he had IRV.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Eighty seven eighty eight because eighty eight eighty nine was
Mike Cherard, I think. But and Mike got hurt, he
broke his leg or something. I mean, you know, I'm
going Keith would fucking rattle this song. But I'm tired
of living in the past. I mean, you know, I
don't even it's still for me, and I'm sure it's
this way for your father. The Landry are the Cowboys
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to me. When Jimmy Johnson came, it was great. Uh.
It took a big adjustment the way they got rid
of Landry. He wasn't didn't sit right with a lot
of cowboy fans.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Then Jerry, you know, he ushered in the new era
of football and now it's a different era. Okay, you
can't really build a team like you.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's still hanging out in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's still in the nineties. His mindsets nineties.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
He thinks handshake deals are going to be things that
get like is he out of his mind right now
thinking that that's a remote possibility that a two player,
that a player in a GM could shake hands and
that would be the that's it, that's all you need.
Like they're that's so delusional. It's such an old man
thinking like he's yelling at like old man yells at
the clouds, you know what I mean. Like he's he's
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this guy that just doesn't seem to get it anymore.
And then when he like, you know, every year we
go bargain shopping, bargain shopping, right like the first wave,
second wave, even third wave. Sometimes a free agency comes
and goes we touch nobody. But then you're like, wow,
we got Miles Sanders and we got fucking you know
what I mean. Like it's like you get these guys
that there's a reason why so available and wave three
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of free agency, and you want to pull out the
fucking greatest out of them, and sometimes they just don't
have it.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
The thing with him too, is that you know he's
still looking to sell jerseys, and yeah, I get it,
he's running a business. But at the same time, and
I know you're in disagreement with this. I mean, I've
I was big on deck two seasons ago. We're we
have four of soon to be four of the highest
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paid players in the NFL and we don't even make
the playoffs. Whereas a lot of these teams they're assessing talent, right,
like we have we have like five guys that are
above bar and then the rest are either average or
below average. Well, and you can't build a team like
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, And that's why, you know, you think of just
think of the most recent success the Philadelphia Eagles. Nobody
likes to talk about this as Cowboys fans, but the
Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lourie. You see him in the
box every so often. But Howie wrote Howie the GM. Yeah,
he's put together a fantastic roster deep young, right, And
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you're like, why can't you know, why can't we Spider
Man mean that shit up? Why can't we just be like, Okay,
let's take this recipe. It's because Jerry is setting it's
goddamn ways and I don't know if even when Jerry
the day listen. Unfortunately, everybody dies, right, everybody dies at
some point in their lives. There's gonna come a time
where Jerry gets older, quickly gets sick and has to
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step away. And then we have a right, do we
have any Do we have the answer sitting behind him? No,
we got a clone sitting behind him. Rich is nuts
because if you think about it, like, are we ever
going to be able to build a championship team? Like
look at the Chiefs. Look at those Chiefs who won
what two and three years or three and four years
or whatever the fuck it was, Like they have mahomes.
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They invested half a billion dollars in their quarterback, right,
but they spread it out enough to make sure that
they don't cripple any other position on the team. Now
you're getting you're finding these diamonds in the rough, Isaiah Pacheco.
They're starting running back, seventh round draft pick, so it's like, wow, bravo.
Then you look Travis Kelce. He's aging a little bit,
and you know, the GQ cover doesn't really do him
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any favors today. But what I will say is like,
you know, you found him, You found Travis Kelce, you
found all these receivers, you found the speed. You traded
away Tyreek Hill, who was the fastest dude in the league,
and replaced him with a faster guy, you know what
I mean. Like, so in the defense always has leaders
and got and and the coordinator spag Nola. The guy's
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been the Super Bowls. He's won super Bowls. This is
what I'm talking about. Like, it's frustrating because I'm finally
maybe it's just me, you know, turning a corner as
a fan right now, because it's like it's very frustrating
to see how Jerry Jones operates as a GM as
an owner. He is lights out above the rest. Nobody
could touch Jared Jones and nobody.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That guy can assess Oligneman. I'll give him that fine,
But like the.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Same time, it's because the guy fucking played the position,
you know what I mean. So, like he knows he
knows football, right, he knows football. He's been around football forever,
but he doesn't know how to build a team. He
started Brett in ninety five or whatever it was. It
he was just like, oh shit, without what I can't pay,
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like he paid d On all that money, and it's like,
it's because no when they gave it. Fuck if you
paid d On all that money, you paid Emmett to
come back in ninety three, because who gives a shit,
Let's pay him as much as he wants. It doesn't
matter because there was no penalty against it. Right, So
it's like, dude, get you got to catch up with
the times. And again, all these podcasters and content creators,
they're all beating the dead horse. We're all sitting here
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saying the same fucking thing.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
What we're missing is what well Jimmy Johnson's talent was
finding talent, and he understood speed and he, like I said,
he ushered in where he would take linebackers and make
him d lineman and defensive backs and make them linebackers.
And you know, you forget how fast our team was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What you think about it, think about but think about
the roster of the of the championship teams, right, can
you name it the ninety five Super Bowl MVP? Yeah,
Larry Brown, Yeah, Larry fucking Brown. Do you know what
he did after that? Not a not a damn thing.
He's out of the league in two years.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So it's like all of the players we lost and
I'm a big thing, but we didn't need theon I
know you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Love it was. It was a marketing thing.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But we pulled that Super Bowl out because of Aikman
and the way he was started taking over the team
because didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
No, he was patting everybody on the ass coordinations.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
And none of those guys that left ended up doing
anything except for Ken Norton and Russell Maryland.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, Maryland just kind of phased off too with the Raiders,
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he still Yeah. But
like what I'm saying is we together can go and
say the ninety two Cowboys might have been the best
team ever constructed. Right, Yes, you had the triplets, you
had eight men, M and irvn. Right, everybody knew about that.
Not too many people were talking about the j Noovichiks
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of the world, or the or the Alvin Harper's or
guys in the secondary named James Washington. Nobody fucking knew
wh James Washington was except us. Well, won a Super
Bowl and now everybody knows who the function Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Is and there's certain receivers that are better at a two,
and that would be Alvin Harper because he went away
and did nothing and had to come back, I think.
And then Tony Casillas left and came back and we
love to but he was at Atlanta as well, I think,
and then yeah, wasn't doing much there. We got him
blew it up again. We had we had a strong rotation.
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We were at least two three deep in our interior
and I know we just don't have that now. And
it's hard to have that in today's league because a
free agency salary pap is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Because we're seeing other teams do it. And that's my problem.
That's my problem with Jerry Jones that we see other
teams build, build teams.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Once you get guy that let's say you bring in
a draft pick and he has two real good seasons
and then he's up for a contract. Sure the money's
through the roof. Then it's like, all right, if we
keep him. Now we got to get rid of this
guy and this guy or you know, if you're paying
if you're overpaying your quarterbacks, you're overpaying your receivers, you're
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overpaying your edge rushers. You you've got about four or
five guys. I mean, and look at the guys. Look,
if we weren't injured right now, you'd have Parsons, if
we signed them overshown digs. We'd have also starting Lea,
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who I think will be great. Just imagine our linebacking
corps with overshown and Parsons at the outside, one focused guy. No,
and then we had the kid we drafted that was
injured from Carolina Eastern Carolina. You know, we're gambling instead
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of gambling on free agency or get bringing in guys
that you know we have to pay a little more
for to fill these needs right away, We're not doing that.
I mean, look what we missed out on the running back?
Was it Chris Johnson? What was his name?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Which one the big.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Running back we could have got last year?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Last year? Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry. Yeah, no, we didn't
want to pay.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I got Chris Johnson from Chris Jesse j two k.
I I mean, we could have had Henry.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's an example. It's like you get you missed out
on Dereck Henry, and then you draft Phil MafA the
next year and you're like, well he's kind of big too.
It's like, no, man, you're missing the point. You're missing
the point. There's there's there's things you can address in
free agency, and there's things you want to build in
the draft. Yes, the draft is super pivotal. You got
to make sure you hit on a lot of their
draft picks. But the Cowboys they don't. They don't. Not
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just they whiff on some draft picks, but then they'll
drag it out as long as possible to to say
that they were right.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Right. Yeah, the ego comes.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The Mazzie Smith ship. I think that ship has sailed.
But again, what are you what are you gonna do?
Who are you gonna replace them with? At this point,
right now, right now, what are you gonna do? You're
gonna go trade for one? You could? You could, you
have the assets to do it. They just won't because
they're like, well, Mazzie's got some brown No man, it's.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Like, we want to be right on the draft picks
and every.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Single, every single one of them.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Brett and I think we're we're saying the same thing
where we're stuck in an error that doesn't this is
new new type of football and these just exist are
playing Madden with with with men?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I know, and it's it's unfortunate because as long as
you're stuck in the method that we're stuck in, like, look, man,
of course they got they hit on some draft picks.
Some of these guys turn out to be unbelievable. You
hit on Dak to me, you hit on Dak Prescott
and you got him in the fourth round, right, But
you then you turned him into first round payments. You
pay him now as if he was drafted in the
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first round.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Which the other thing is, I think the biggest error
was not when Romo was healthy, not not not starting.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Him what in fifteen, Yeah, that was that year, sixteen sixteen,
So that came back. He came back that first year.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I know, you got to go with the hot hand,
but no, you bring you have Romo come in, finished
the year and and you know, roll with that because
you had the experience. I remember the first game, the
only his last game was against Philly. He went like
eight for eight.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right down the field, right down the field, hits Terrence
Williams on a fucking fade into the corner and touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's we finally had the defense and we finally had
a running game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Look, it's fun to go back and talk about you know,
once what once, what was? What could have been right?
And then you look at this team now as constructed,
and I think there is some significant talent on this roster.
I really do. I think Dak Rescott's gonna happen. This
talent fantastic. I think Dak Prescott's gonna have.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
A fantastic players. Man, it's not abough talent, you know,
and look for me, I love. I know it sounds
crazy because Florino I only had one catch, but that
dude was open and he was.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
He reminds me of He reminds me of a Dez Bryant.
He does body gets up and gets balls like look,
and you can't make comparisons like that right away, but yeah,
he's got the building, the skill set to do that.
And you're eating like, but again, when when is he
gonna get burned? Man? When like preseason great, you know,
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but after that you're gonna have Ceedee Lamb, You're gonna
have George Pickens after that. It's it's I don't even
want to consider it a question mark because I think,
like I said, I think they have a Swiss army
Deebo Samuel type dude in Cavante Turpin, I think he
can be a play a pivotal role. I saw clips
today from practice. Uh Dak rolled out to his weak side.
All he had to do is throw it, and you
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knew Turpin was gonna get to it because he's that
fucking fast, right, and that's gonna work to our benefit.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I mean again, but defense is our.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Problem, and yeah, I mean we're not.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
We just got to just see what happens. We got
to sign Mic as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Well, I mean as listen or trade him.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But who are you gonna get now?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Exactly? You can't. That's why I think this whole thing
is fluff, because I don't think you can't trade Michael
Parsons right now and get value for this season. You
can't do it right unless you trade him for fucking
I don't even know what. Like there would have to
be a starting DT, a starting corner and starting this
and starting that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Another day, he's said the only guy he would take
is for Fred Warner.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, well again that's not available, right, So it's like, so,
so you can't trade him, no matter what he's requesting,
no matter what he wants to do, you gotta get
him on the field now again in typical Cowboys fashion,
if you remember just last year, a mere three hundred
and sixty five days ago, right on this sign you
could have signed him, and then you could have also
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gotten the Lamb thing done and the Dak thing done.
You realize it took to opening night Thursday Night Football
for the Cowboys to sign Dak Prescott last year.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
See don't now again. We talk about Jerry being a
good business man, but he loses leverage. He doesn't like
the longer he waited.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Listen, he's got leverage on Micah. He absolutely doesn't. There's
no question about him. Michael Parsons is on his fifth
year option and then they can franchise him twice, so
technically he could be under the Cowboys control for the
next three years. And Parsons can't say boo, that's just
the way to And if you want to sit out,
sit out. You see what happens to guys like Le'Veon
Bell when he sits out for a year, his career
is over right, so like and that's a running back
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and it's a different situation. But I think Michael Parsons
is a fucking unicorn. I think the guy should get
paid as such, right if he's if he was waiting
for these edg rushers to get their paydays, which they
all have. Now everybody's paid up, right. You got the
contracts of TJ. Watt, you got Miles Garrett, you got
all these guys, Max Crosby in Vegas. Everybody's got their deal.
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Now go sign yours, right, And for Jerry to drag
his feet like you said, the the owner, the guy
who negotiated Pepsi instead of Coke, Nike instead of Rebok,
all that shit. Genius, the GM, he doesn't know shit about. Fuck,
we know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
We need a good talent assessing GM.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And that's the thing. They have guys that are on
their coaching staff and their staff in itself that are
good at assessing talent. Because Will McLay has crushed the draft,
I think in the last couple of years he's got
a lot of good players on this team now. Because
he can evaluate talent, it's hard to evaluate what Micah
Parsons can do for your team.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I would bring in Charlie Partridge, the D line coach
at the Colts. It was one of the best recruiters
in college and the guy just can spot talent and
bring a guy like that in that could sit in
your war room and say, look, I saw this kid
in high school. I know every kid, and this guy's special,
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this guy's you know, this guy is a high Because
we also missed on that linebacker from NC State last
year to draft.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh that was your boy. Uh just think of Peyton something.
I want to say something. Peyton was balling man. Yeah,
I think he went when he went to Pittsburgh. If
I'm not mistaken anyway, I don't know. Regardless, we got
the Ravens, got the Ravens right, and what what exactly
are we going to get out of the Ravens. You're
probably not gonna seem Lamar right, but you might see
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you know who, We're going to see our dear good friend,
Cooper Rush. That's what we're gonna see. Can't wait for
Cooper Rush's return to Dallas. Those tickets should be flying
off the charts, which I'm really excited, to be honest
with you, to watch Cooper Rush against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Listen, I bet Milton, I bet Milton has a good game.
You know what I like too, is he put it
on him worse right, So what I'm saying he put
it on himself. He didn't. He didn't point fingers and
let him get a rhythm, you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Know, and we meet the damn ball? How about that?
How about run the damn ball? Milton talking about the team.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Greer looked like a goddamn awesar curious.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He comes out there looking like looking like legends of
the game, sort of like was on fire. Oh Greer
is the guy, and it listened. Game respects game. His beard.
Game is fucking incredible.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
If Milton was on his game, or what we're assuming
is his game, we should have won that. I mean,
he missed so many open tar overthrowing just.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Behind you yourself a favor, And do not watch like
the All twenty two and all that film shit, because
it is and I've done it and I've watched it
and it's just like, oh my god, was there's so
many players left on the field.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
But you know, look, it happens to again. I'm not
assessing Will Greer on one I mean Milton on one game,
but no, that happens to everybody. I mean, like I said,
Brett Farv was always off.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
He like you said, he was doing the ball in
the fucking stands and nobody bad and I they were
just like, ah, he might have something down the line.
And oh, by the way, became a fucking Hall of
Famer not even not even just Super Bowl Hall of
Fame quarterback. So like, yeah, is Joe Milton Brett Favre? No,
But like, is Joe? Can we see more out of
Joe Milton?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
I mean he's a big guy, and he's fast, and
he's got an arm.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
His athleticism is off the charts, off the charts. I mean,
he does standing fucking backflips like adn't dream of doing
it like that.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
But let's be honest, that's our future right now.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like yeah, unless unless you unless you find somebody in
the draft in the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, but if we're looking at patterns, there's a good
chance that's gonna get for at least one or two
games will be out this year.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Again, we'll see. Well, let's just talk about the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like I said, so, in order for us to assess
the Ravens right Like again, we watched him in last
week's game. We watched Cooper Rush. His first throw as
a Raven was a pick. So now you're just like, ah, cool,
so you know it's gonna be one of those. But
he settled in. He was fine. They got a couple
other quarterbacks on their rise. Their running game is incredible.
They got a kid that just he has a chance
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to make some real noise. They're running back. I'm drawing
a blank right now. But the kid who played most
of the game last week, he's very fast. So now
it's an immediate test in the trenches, right, you want
to make sure that you can stop the run, the
ability to stop to run. The last time we saw
the Ravens, it wasn't pretty, right, and I know it
was you know, the regular season, so you know, Lamar
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was in and Derek Henry was running all over the place,
but it wasn't pretty. We got ran out of our
own building. So now again game result doesn't matter, but
you want to make sure you put some shit on
tape so we can at least next week when we're
talking about this game, we can say like, okay, we
have a guy that could flash at de tackle. Okay,
if our corners are still banged up, this dude can
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make a play. Is he can play in the slot, right,
like you can. You can look at that two games.
You'll have two games now under your belt with only
one more after that before it's fucking time for the Eagles,
which is mind numbing it itself. But like, you have
to assess this talent this week in practice and this
Ravens game, because there's not a soul that is going
to play a lot in the in the season. In
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the preseason finale against I think it's Atlanta if I'm
not mistaken, but like there's I can't imagine anybody playing
in that game. Of note, because you really are getting
close to Philadelphia. Remember our season starts four days before
the rest of everybody, so we really got to make
sure that this game coming up right now is the
game that you have to evaluate your talent more than
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any other game in the preseason. Game one, you want
to get your guys reps. You want to get guys
you know, throwing the ball, getting loose, getting stretched, Let's
see who can pursue the the you know, the ball carrier,
all that shit. Fine. Game two of a three game
preseason is the most pivotal one. And again I don't
give a fuck if they win the game, it doesn't matter.
We got to see some shit. We got to see
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that this team has some kind of promise and depth
because again Brett, the guys, if they don't play, we
got to make sure we have guys that can play
and step up.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Well. Again, our trenches are trenches. That that's the key.
Our D line has been again the Achilles heel. We
want to see cohesiveness with the backups on the O line,
and we want to see Milton hit hit his targets.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Shoanneimer straight upset any more pre stat penalties are going
to bench people have that.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You can't those, That's all, and it's way that's how
you fix a problem. And you know, look, I think
Shoty's heart's in the right place, his head's in the
right place. I know he was saying he doesn't surround
himself with yes men, but I hope he's not a
yes man with Jerry, and you know, because Jerry likes those.
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I mean again, we're not in that, we're not in
the office, we're not in the in the rooms. We
don't know what the hell is going on. We just
always see the end result. And again, if you watch
other teams, they have similar problems.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
I mean even in the case they fell apart against
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Its Eagles unfortunately lost their starting left guard for possibly
a couple of weeks. It will not be probably won't
be playing against US, and that's a big loss for them,
right Like the offensive line is everything. Nothing goes without
the boys up front. And right now we have to
figure out who's going to be starting on our line
because you got Lyle Collins out there, who you know
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again signed off the street, hasn't played football in a
long time. Guidant's coming back from injury. Is brock Hoffman
gonna get any more burn? Is? You know? We obviously
know that the three up front is probably going to
be one of the better guards guard.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And I say something though about Malik Davis. Sure he
and my brother liked him.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, no, what's not the like he's a good soldier.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
He's going to be running like that. I mean, because
you know again, you're it's almost like a second chance.
And I was I liked him on our team, you know,
not last year the year before.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
When was when wash?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
When did we get rid of him?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Well? He left after last year, so he was with
us last year for a little while. He was more
or less practice squad or bust for him. But yeah,
I mean, look again, to me, you have to be
a realist, right, you have to know that Malik Davis
was running up against guys that might be bagging groceries,
that stopping shopping three weeks all right.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Early, because look again the Rams, what we saw on
their D line and their line, they're they're not scrubs.
They're in the rotation. They got a young defensive team, man,
and and a lot of those guys that we played against,
I guarantee you will make the team.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I want, I want Schottenheimer to give quarters to each
one of these running backs. Enough of the scheme and
enough of that bullshit, all right, start off with if
Javonte is gonna get burned, get him burned. If Miles
Sanders is going to be a go, give him a go,
Jayden Blue is gonna be a go. Great in that
fourth quarter, we need to see more film offa. We
need to see your boy Malik.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Davis make a situational or that too.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
If we're on the goal line handed the hundle or MafA. Right, yeah, yeah,
so I think that situational stuff will be called. I
think that he already kind of went and cleared it
up that he's gonna play a lot more people. Uh,
but then he's gonna also take away snaps from guys
who played too much. So we might not see too
much Maurice lef Olt. We might not see that. I
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don't know, but like all I know is you got
to see what you have because again, like we were
saying last week, it's no more weekly cuts, you know
what I mean, It's like nine fifty three. And then
you got a hold which guys. I again, I think
there was pros and cons to both, right, Like if
you got cut after week one, you had a chance
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to go latch on with somebody else's team.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
And every team, every team, everybody, everybody on that field
that we're watching in preseason is playing for another spot
somewhere else if they get cut. That's true, and everybody's affected.
So once once there's gonna be a flood game because
there might be guys that we might take and be like, yo,
we got our eye on this kid. He may not
fit this team, but we you know, it's all of
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them have to go through it. It was better as
a fan for the phases, but for a team, I
think it's better to assess at the end, see who
you gotta go with.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
See three weeks, give them three weeks of continuity and
ship and see where you can go and treate.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Somebody if you want to, or put them on waivers,
or put them on developmental squad all at the end
so you can see what they look like. Because again, man,
you know when and I've never played in the NFL,
right my highest level was college. But it's a different
speed and they got to get accustomed to it because
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everybody out there is the best, is one of the
best in the country, even the third teamers. It's not
like you know.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing I say about
starting quarterbacks. Whenever somebody says like this, this guy stinks
and he's a thirty second quarterback in the NFL. Yeah,
well there's only thirty two of those spots in the world.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
So basketball player that do the white dude that plays
people when they're like you're not you're not, well, I'm
still better than you. You know what I'm talking about?
He plays them in one on ones.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Smoke I just talked. I thought you're talking about like
guys like Jake Paul who fight guys after their prime.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
No, no, no, no, no, he's an NBA player that that
everybody talks about.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Possibly, I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
He's really good. He's like, look, I'll show you the
difference in levels.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
And there is there is absolute levels to all this.
So yeah, we gotta we got to see what they've
tried out there this week against the Baltimore Ravens. Like
I said, we'll be back next week to break that
game down, and this one's gonna tell us a lot.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic about this game. I think I
think we're going to.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
See and it's the home opener, and hopefully the fans
are out there and bunches and ship and you know
they guys.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
In preseason, because every time I think we've been we
hadn't won a game or won one game in preseason.
We did well in the season.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
So I don't think we've won the first game of
the preseason in like a decade. So it's been a
fucking long time. So if they can get back, listen,
I personally go out there and get a convincing team win,
you know, make us feel good, Like you know, you
can't call it a victory Sunday or victory Monday. When
it's all said and done, you're like, we beat the
breakers off the rape. Can't do that, can't really analyze
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the score, but we can pretty much get an idea
of who the fuck is going to be around on
this team going forward. So that'll do.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
It, all right, let's wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
I gotta make Yeah, he's got to call Jerry and
see what's going on with the defensive.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
We're beating a dead horse here.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, no, I understand that, So listen, enjoy the Ravens game.
Let's stay injury free. There's a whole lot more practice
to happen state in the game.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
When is the game Saturday.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Or Saturday night? Yeah, Saturday night. So if you want
all things Cowboys, I'm a very active member on the
Cowboys Twitter verse. You can follow me at Dave Stercio.
I'm going at it with a lot of people. You know,
I said, you say one wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
And on the bottom of our screen that's true to him.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, well, you're not as active on Twitter anymore anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I just brought on some social media people.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
There you go all right with this podcast?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, no, let's do it, let's get let's do it
all right. Sounds like a plan. So for Dave, start Yell,
and Brett Ernst and of course the Grinch, wherever he
may be, enjoy the calibary.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I gotta I gotta admit the podcast is not the
same without the Grinch.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It's definitely not the same. It's not as thorough and
it's not as in depth. I want to say, we
threw a lot of generalizations out there, general.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And it's it's you know, who wants to hear a happy.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
He'll pick us apart. I can't wait. He's gonna I
guary he'll listen to the podcast right after this so
was his post, and he'll listen and then he'll say,
I'm you guys on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
You know he because he does this when we're talking.
He looks to the side. You gotta do and he just.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
And that's Thanksgiving dinner when when we're losing.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Oh my god, I'm in tall. I I have to
you known't need Thanksgivings. I eight alone, like I just
can't be around people. Just a game.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Dame.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
We respect your loyalty, but you know, little we have
little starch, that's always optimist. Well, you know this guy.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I think I'm turning to listen. I think I'm turning
a corner and it's not gonna be like bitter old
man Starch, but it's gonna be a little bit more
on the real side. And you know, if we stink,
we stink. If there's holes, there's holes, we'll fill them
all out. We'll bring them.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Anybody's name.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
If I had, if I had, if I had a
nickel for every time, what's the game, what's the guy's name? Like,
Oh yeah, shitload of nickels. So that'll do it, I.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Said Chris Johnson over Derek Henry. I don't even know
who Chris Johnson was. Anty didn't he play for like
the Bengals or something.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
No, he's a Titan. He's a Titan. And that's c
J two K. You get ran for two thousand yards.
There's not some bull So that's what I was thinking of.
They just also fell off the face of the earth
like most cowboys do. So that'll do it, everybody. I'll
see you guys next time.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Hey, listen, Tony soprano and you're listening to Jersey Boys
podcasts with your hosts Dave Sturshiew and the Urn Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit about the Cowboys
when New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey anyways. Enjoy well, whatever,
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys podcast. Were your host Dave stir Shield and the
Urch Boys? I mean, I can give a shit about
the Cowboys with New Jersey. These guys got bulls being
cowboys fangin Jersey anyways, enjoy well.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Whatever Cowboys Nation. How is everybody doing out there on
this fine Tuesday afternoons? We record this. It is August
the twelfth, another episode of the Jersey Boys Podcast Dave
Stirt Show alongside nationally no comedian Brett Ernst. We are
(00:40):
officially zero to one. The season is doomed, by the way.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I wants to see how how light the podcast is now,
Like we can have we could talk positive. There's no Grinch.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
There's no Grinch right now. Hopefully he'll be joining us
in a little bit. He got tied up with some stuff.
But you know, I'm very interested to hear the Grinches.
Take a couple of things that went down on the Cowboys.
Rams lost thirty one twenty one to the Los Angeles Rams.
First and foremost, I hate the fact that I had
to listen to the RAMS broadcast, which was by far
the worst I've ever heard. Just the team of Like
(01:14):
I don't even know the play by play, guys, it
was brutal, brutal, and I understand, like a Homer, I
get that. Like but like we all everybody knows in
Cowboys Nation that Maurice Jones Drew does not like the Cowboys.
So you just felt like he was just way leaning
heavy on that. And then there was me what he
was saying was valid sometimes sometimes but not all the
(01:36):
time anyway, that that that goes without saying. But anyway,
we saw a lot of things to really dive into
today as the Cowboys return to the practice field. They
have two padded practices this week, Tuesday and Wednesday. I
believe they'll do a walk through on Thursday and then
it's back to the field as we go home to
open up our home preseason schedule against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Now, what's the injury report? Anything good?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Bad? Uh? Nothing bad coming out of it. I was
worried about Joe Milton, to be honest, but then again,
it could have been worse. When Joe Milton was playing.
We'll get into Milton's play, but Milton banged his thumb up.
He's fine. There was a couple other things, but like
the biggest things for me was wondering who was going
to return to the practice field today. Believe it or not,
Tyler Geyton is doing walkthroughs already, so I know everybody
(02:25):
was very scared about his availability for Week one still
kind of up in the air, but from all things
that we heard from Brian Schottenneimer, you know, things could
possibly trend in the right direction with him. Jaden Blue
is back to the practice field today, is not practicing,
but he is going through a little bit of a
stretch warm up off to the side. Thing. We need
him back. I want to see what he can do
in the preseason because before you know it, you know,
(02:47):
you know this is as good as anybody, Brett. When
when you get replaced, you can get replaced fast in
the NFL, if if you're there, if you're out with
an injury, So you just gotta really be careful about that.
And I guess the.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Biggest fear is you've earned a spot, but you're not
a franchise player or a big contract player, right and
the guy you know, and then you get hurt and
the guy in front of you starts starts picking up
momentum they'll keep him man.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, and that's I fear that for guys like Deuce
Vaughan who was hurt for a little while. He did
get some burn in the game this past Saturday. But
you know, I'll start off with that. You know, we
talked about the running back room last week and Jayden
Blue being one of our I don't even want to
say high draft picks because we waited till like I
feel like, the fourth fifth round to get.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Him for me, but they're high on him.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're high on him, and he's got the speed and
burst that you need. Behind two veterans right now and
Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders is back on
the practice field today, which is good. Needed him back
to see if he can keep up with the young folk.
But the one that really stands out to me is
that we pick up Malik Davis off the street. Basically,
we put him in the game on Saturday, and all
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of a sudden, he may have the best burst out
of all of the running actually we saw on Saturday,
which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well he uh, what do you have like sixty something yards?
He was averaging like six something, crazy like nine yards
of carry.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, he had some bursts and uh, you got to
give it up for Pil MafA. Phil MafA came in there.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
He showed a lot of promise.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He's he's one of the bigger backs size wise, and
he's got that he can get. The ability to quote
get skinny in between the tackles was definitely a thing.
And there was a couple things that were called back
because of either holding penalties or formation penalties, which definitely
falls on the coach. I got to clean that shit.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Up theches in here. Let's start with the positives.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, yeah, the positives was that Phil MafA ran his
ass off, which is nice, looked good the straight up,
and Malik Davis looked good. You have to give credit
where credit is due. The one kid that's going to
be a starter on this team that played a lot
of football on Saturday, which I was kind of worried
about because I was like, all right, we know he's
(04:58):
going to be on this team and started why why
keep playing him? Is Maurice leaf Al.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, he he balled out.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He is he is going to be something special just
the way he can read it's event and he attacks
the holes with with violence. You know what I mean,
And that's the kind of guy that you want in
a in a position room where we thought we're a
little weak at right now because of the fact that
you have over Sean hurt right you lost guys like
Kendricks from last year, so like the linebacker room, and
then you you add some guys, but then like this,
(05:27):
it's a battle of the unknowns. The one known that
we have right now is watching Maurice ball out and
that dude's every time the ball was snapped, Brad, he
was around the ball.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The other the other bright spots, Trey Shawn Holden, Uh,
you know he played well. And I'll tell you else
did is FLORINOI even though we had one reception, he
was open a lot and Milton was just you know,
he was off his game.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He was missing wide receivers. Why I mean wide open.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I can't even say off his game because we really
don't know what his game is yet, you know what
I mean. He's so on, so new, but like he
was throwing ninety five mile per hour heaters to all
the routes. Whether it be a slant, a go dig,
it didn't matter. He was rocketing that ball.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's like he didn't have any touch. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Is that nerves? Is that the yips? Is it? You know?
Is that that?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is that the reason why we're dealing with that? I
don't know. But we did see the athleticism. We did
see him put some touch on the ball towards the
back end of the game before he got injured. So
I'm not so worried about that. Shout out to Will
Greer who came in who wasn't supposed to get any
playing time, and by design, he comes in uses his legs.
His arms aren't warmed up yet, so fuck it, use
(06:36):
your legs and he scores a touchdown. So I was excited. WI.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, now he But the thing with Milton is, you
know it does And look in Dallas's defense, the Rams
are a good team. They got a good young defense man.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, and they're gonna be contenders this year.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Watch. Yeah, I could. I could definitely see that, because look,
if you're a team led by Sean McVay, it's not
going to be very long before you're back in the
fold and back into the mix.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
When the division last year, they won their conference, right
the division whatever, the NFC West they won.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, it was it was them, it was Seattle. They
were kind of going neck and neck. The Arizona fell
out of favor. The Niners had a bunch of bad injuries.
So that division, to me, the NFC West is wide
open for the taking. And I think the Rams, you know,
being that Stafford is getting a little older. You know,
you still have some young receivers out there doing their thing.
They lose Cooper Cup, but yeah, defense is definitely young,
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and they fly around the ball and they look. There
was no you know, not a lot of time for
Milton to you know, kind of read. He just kind
of starts slinging on a round. So we really didn't know.
Couldn't really get a good judgment of the offensive line
because same thing with the defensive line. It was very
very quick releases by both teams on Saturday. For me
to be like, ah, we got no pass rush. It
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really first of all, nobody really played, and then second
of all, the guys who did play, you know, he
was just hike and then boom, slant route, dig route.
There's something quick, you know, So it wasn't we weren't
able to get home. And again you got to right,
especially when you're thin at corner. You got to get
home hopefully with four sometimes five. But you know, overall
the Cowboys they held their own, they competed to the end.
(08:19):
Schottenheimer was very happy with a lot of guys. You
mentioned Holden, and I'm very interested to see because the
day after the press conference after the game, Shottenheim or
might have even been postcame press conference, but Schottenheimer basically
said that this dude's about to move up the depth chart.
And that's interesting to me because of the fact that
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you did trade a fourth round pick for guys like
Jonathan Mingo. You're still kind of waiting for Jalen Tolbert
to come around. Now. Look, you can't discredit some of
the Tolbert stats from last year. I think he scored
seven times last year, so Tolbert had himself a fine year. However,
you know, if you started finding, you know, catching lightning
in a bottle behind all these guys as your fifth
(09:01):
and six receivers, now you've got a problem. It's a
good problem to have, because you know, I mentioned this
on Twitter, and I think that it could be a
thing if holding can emerge as somebody goold, and then
you have Mingo who's a body receiver. And then you
obviously at the top you got CD and George Pickens.
Then you start looking at a Tolbert as a possible
trade candidate, somebody that we might want to unleash to
(09:23):
go help other sides of the field, meaning defensive tackle, cornerback,
something like that, because that's where they need help.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Watch, McCall had a good game. I can't say his last.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Name, say his first name.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's even harder.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, fine, we're going I told you guys in the chat,
I was like, let's just call him Izzy going forward
because it's impossible. Yeah, great pick, athletic pick, a great pick.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know. For the Uh, let's talk about the negatives.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
There were none.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
A lot of mental errors, a lot of dumb penalties,
that's all coaching, man. And the play calling was awful.
And I know we discussed it in the text and
you're like, yeah, well he said he's going to keep
it Vanilla. It's not the place. It wasn't the plays
so much as the play calling. I mean, I think
we passed seven times in a row at one point.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, but I also think that if you're trying to
get Milton, it doesn't matter, man, I mean, it's it's
the the purpose of preseason is not only just to
see talent, but his game management.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's also uh you know, situational calling, especially when MafA
was running. I mean I think there was a third
and three or something. We ended up passing three and out.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, that type of stuff worries me. I know,
Shaty's a new coach, new head coach. It's his really
his first game too. You know, there's you want to
be optimistic, but you also want to be real and
I wasn't. I wasn't happy with the play calling. I mean,
we had no rollout passes really because I bet Milton
(11:07):
could throw on the run.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh Milton, listen, there's no mistake about it. Milton could
throw the ball ninety yards on a rope. And that's
not even I'm not fabricating that he can do something
like that, Right, he's got an ell of an arm.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know what else, if you're too young to remember
and he played for Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Wait, don't tell me, Jeff George no at farv Yeah yeah,
well well you said, well, first of all, he played
for Atlanta, like that that got rid of. But like
if anybody knows him, they know him for as a packer.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Like no, but I'm saying it's why they got rid
of him in Atlanta. He could just throw the ball
into the stands. He would just arm it out all
the time. And you know, uh, I think Lanville used
to make bets, used to make bets with him. So yeah,
as far as how far uh Brett Farv could throw
(11:58):
the ball, dude.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But and Romo was like that too when he first
got in there. Romo was.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, but Romo still, man. I meant, look again, it's
it's one game. The only game we have to go
on is when Milton started for the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He had a great game, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And he was accurate in practices and drills.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He cast them. He cost them the first overall pick.
Thanks Joe. Uh But I mean it's a small sample size,
so I don't get too too crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean, listen, you wanted when when you saw the
Rams play that was their first game and they were
firing man on all cylinders with their backups.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Stetsan Bennett, He's he's all of a sudden, he's a
cowboy killer. That's two years in a row. Now, I
feel like he's doing damage in the presets.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
They're running backs to man. I mean they were getting
some yards on us what's his name, the big the
starter kid.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, that was that was one of the one of
the big things that Schottenheimer had pointed out is that
you know, it's it's one thing that you have the
guys on your roster who you feel like can do
their jobs as far as you know, the role of
a defensive tackle nine times out of ten is yeah,
you get pressure, but you also you've got to clock
some holes, right, you just got to be a big
body and not get pushed back. There was too many
(13:15):
times where the Cowboys defensive tackles were getting pushed back.
They couldn't get pad level, they couldn't get any pressure
up up northern side. It was just boom. They were
just getting drilled back. And that's why you got five
six yards at a clip. Clearly, clearly we can't have
that in the regular season. But again, you know, you
hope that there's there's.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
A Trader kid had fifty nine yards, Hunter had forty one,
and that Quorum kid had thirty two yards. So they
had a hundred yards yet, which is not a good sign.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh but again I think that with they have some
big bodies down there, I don't know if they're going
to be capable bodies. I know there's a lot of
people out there that are given a lot of shit
to guys like Mazie Smith, and you know, he comes
back lighter and like he's in a better shape. But
sometimes that's not always beneficial when you're a defensive tackle
one tech, you know what I mean, Like if you're
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right over the center or the right over the guard,
like you have to be able to push that offensive
line back in pursuit of the ball carrier. And that
just wasn't the case for Masie, and it hasn't been
the case for Mazie since I got here. You muted.
You muted for a second there. I don't know if
you We.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Had ninety nine yards total rushing with the running backs.
With Milton we had one hundred and twenty one yards rushing.
So if you take away quarterbacks running right, I mean
overall are running backs, I think we had over one
hundred yards. Yeah, because Duce Vaughan had eleven. I'm looking
at the stats now, little Duce. But anyways, the mental
(14:52):
errors is what is what worries me. You know, and
then that stupid penalty on Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, first of all, like I don't even know
who to blame. I guess blame Lamb. He can't be
that close to the sidelines, especially when you're not dressed
like it would have been typical cowboys fashion if we
lost Lamb for like four games due to back spatter,
because because of that, you know that god he got yeah,
is that guy he got up and said, You're like,
I'm good, Everything's fine. But like at that time, I
(15:20):
saw the replay and I'm like, oh my god, the
whiplash on that fucking hit. The referees plowed him over,
and I'm like, come on, dude, that's a typical cowboys
thing to happen to us one hundred percent. But look,
man like, like I said, there was, there's position battles
you have to worry about, or at least have to
get a little excited about. You know, we talked about
(15:43):
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens as the one in the two,
but I think it's very, very apparent that you have
to start working in in your mind, you have to
start working in Cavante Turpin as your potential three to
four right, because he's gonna be on the field for
some gadget plays. He might line up in the backfield.
That guy is a Swiss Army knife and he's the
fastest dude on the field. So if you want speed,
you have to have Turbin out there. So it's really
(16:03):
a matter of how many roster spots they want to
designate to the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'm not worried about our offense as much as the defense.
And I sent you a video of somebody talking about,
you know that linebacker we picked up from Chicago. Yeah,
we need a heady linebacker. That's that's what he referred
to it as. Because we're not investing in the big
bodies up front, and the d line is going to
(16:29):
be another problem. I mean edge rushing we got, it's
the middle man, and if we don't have big bodies
getting penetration or or protecting that second layer right of
our linebacking corps, if they're just getting blown out, and
then you have other offensive linemen getting to that second
layer and getting interfering with the with the linebackers. We
(16:52):
need a guy that can see the play before the
play develops, and the kid from Chicago is the one.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think it's called steal unleashed. It's the video I
sent you, Okay, but he he hits the nail on
the head with that. And it's a big problem because
it all starts up front. If we're not getting penetration
and we're not getting uh a decent pass rush, our
our our dbs are gonna get burnt. It happens to
every dB. I don't care who you are, unless you're
(17:22):
Dion who is arguably the best cover back. But in
today's game, where you know you can't even touch a receiver,
you're gonna get you're good. The receivers are gonna get open.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's it's you know, I think that's my design, to
be honest with you. The NFL wants more points, so
that's why the league is starting to trend towards that way.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Every since uh what you McCall it fantasy football so lucrative.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They love like prop bets like that. Yeah, man, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
The rules are always have always leaned towards the offense,
except on the O line right which now they're letting
them hold.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And I think if you're if you're a Micah Parsons enthusiasts.
You've you've watched it.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
All as you see it throughout the league.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You saw it in the preseason game.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yes, so they they allow them to hold. And and
now the defensive backs is the most difficult position in football.
First of all, you're you're you're moving in a direction
that's unnatural. As you're backpedaling. You don't know where the
play is going. The receiver knows where the play's going. Right,
the receiver is running forward, which is a natural, uh
(18:32):
position to run right. And not only that, you can't
really touch them. You can't break them balls.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You got five five yards, You got five yards to
kind of do some work, maybe chuck them at the line,
but that's really all you got and even do. And
even when you chuck them at the line there, they're
still looking to call the hold on you.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
So you know you don't want to press them because
you know, with the with the athleticism today too, it's
like you know, once once they get around you, you're done.
So you know you're playing that five yards back and
if you're even hitting him within say that five yards,
still flag you. You know, it's just a tough position.
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And our d line we have not really invested in
our big guys up front, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Why not yet. I mean, like again, like you hope
for guys like Solomon Thomas who've kind of showed that
he could be a d tackle, and you hope to
God at Mazi Smith can do something, and then you
hope that you hit on somebody in the sixth seventh round,
a couple of the bigger bodies. But again, like there's
a reason for all that. There's a reason that they're
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slipping to the sixth seventh round, you know what I mean,
Like they might weigh three fifty, but do they have
the technique to get what needs to be done? You
know what I mean? Like, so it does worry me
a little bit. I'm not gonna lie to you, like
the fact that the running game has been our achilles
heel on the defensive side of the ball for years now, right,
So like when are they going to address that? When?
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When is something going to give for that interior? And
when is like, look, you got a guy like Brian
Schottenheimer who today, as a matter of fact, I watched
his press conference like twenty minutes twenty five minutes long,
and he said that he doesn't have a he doesn't
have a staff full of yes men, which is which
really resonated with me because I'm like, you know, you
don't want a staff that's going to say like, oh,
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everybody's just giving their best effort. You know that everybody's
doing really well. You need guys that are going to
say like, hey, Shotty, listen what you have on the
field right now, it's not going to work for my
defensive line, Like it's it's not going to work. We
need something. We got to go to Jerry and say like, look,
this is what we need to do. But then you
got Jerry at his Netflix premiere and shit last night.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
So it's like, you know, and I saw a clip
of that Netflix with Jerry a sound bite he's like
with the Cowboys, it's a circus three hundred and sixty
five days a year.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, because he lives.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But you know what's great, I don't know if you
realize this or go back, and you know, there's a
lot of clips servicing because last night, like I said,
everybody was very jazzed up about the Netflix premiere and
the who's who were there, and you know, but guys
like Emmett and Mike were also there and they had
a couple words about the drought of the thirty year drought,
like what what really crumbled the ninety two to ninety
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three team after that? And it was it was simply
Jimmy Johnson, you know what I mean, Like you would
think about this and maybe you can agree it is
the biggest move in Cowboys all right past the seventies championships, right,
like because we won some Super Bowls with Landry stawback, she.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Went to five.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
We won two of them, right, but.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
We went to five and like ten years.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right, so, like we had domination at one point, right,
But when Jerry Jones got there in eighty nine, they
were a piss poor team, right. They went one in fifteen,
they had the number one overall pick and all that
and the rest is history. Everybody knows that. But do
you think Jerry's biggest acquisition of all time as a
Cowboys GM slash owner had to be the hiring of
Jimmy Johnson? Oh of course, right, I mean, like I
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don't give a shit who's out there, Like he made
sure Jimmy Johnson pulled the best out of each and
every player. And if you weren't willing to make adjustments
or do the thing. He cuts your ass and that's
it tee.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Jerry takes credit for that team, but you got to
remember too, most of those guys were Landry guys, even
Irvin Well.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, that was that was I think that was Irvan.
That was Landry's last pick, was it, or last year
of picking eighty.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Eight, No, it was, yeah, eighty eight eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, So then then that was that was the last
draft that he had IRV.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Eighty seven eighty eight because eighty eight eighty nine was
Mike Cherard, I think. But and Mike got hurt, he
broke his leg or something. I mean, you know, I'm
going Keith would fucking rattle this song. But I'm tired
of living in the past. I mean, you know, I
don't even it's still for me, and I'm sure it's
this way for your father. The Landry are the Cowboys
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to me. When Jimmy Johnson came, it was great. Uh.
It took a big adjustment the way they got rid
of Landry. He wasn't didn't sit right with a lot
of cowboy fans.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Then Jerry, you know, he ushered in the new era
of football and now it's a different era. Okay, you
can't really build a team like you.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
He's still hanging out in the nineties.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
He's still in the nineties. His mindsets nineties.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
He thinks handshake deals are going to be things that
get like is he out of his mind right now
thinking that that's a remote possibility that a two player,
that a player in a GM could shake hands and
that would be the that's it, that's all you need.
Like they're that's so delusional. It's such an old man
thinking like he's yelling at like old man yells at
the clouds, you know what I mean. Like he's he's
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this guy that just doesn't seem to get it anymore.
And then when he like, you know, every year we
go bargain shopping, bargain shopping, right like the first wave,
second wave, even third wave. Sometimes a free agency comes
and goes we touch nobody. But then you're like, wow,
we got Miles Sanders and we got fucking you know
what I mean. Like it's like you get these guys
that there's a reason why so available and wave three
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of free agency, and you want to pull out the
fucking greatest out of them, and sometimes they just don't
have it.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
The thing with him too, is that you know he's
still looking to sell jerseys, and yeah, I get it,
he's running a business. But at the same time, and
I know you're in disagreement with this. I mean, I've
I was big on deck two seasons ago. We're we
have four of soon to be four of the highest
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paid players in the NFL and we don't even make
the playoffs. Whereas a lot of these teams they're assessing talent, right,
like we have we have like five guys that are
above bar and then the rest are either average or
below average. Well, and you can't build a team like
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, And that's why, you know, you think of just
think of the most recent success the Philadelphia Eagles. Nobody
likes to talk about this as Cowboys fans, but the
Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lourie. You see him in the
box every so often. But Howie wrote Howie the GM. Yeah,
he's put together a fantastic roster deep young, right, And
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you're like, why can't you know, why can't we Spider
Man mean that shit up? Why can't we just be like, Okay,
let's take this recipe. It's because Jerry is setting it's
goddamn ways and I don't know if even when Jerry
the day listen. Unfortunately, everybody dies, right, everybody dies at
some point in their lives. There's gonna come a time
where Jerry gets older, quickly gets sick and has to
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step away. And then we have a right, do we
have any Do we have the answer sitting behind him? No,
we got a clone sitting behind him. Rich is nuts
because if you think about it, like, are we ever
going to be able to build a championship team? Like
look at the Chiefs. Look at those Chiefs who won
what two and three years or three and four years
or whatever the fuck it was, Like they have mahomes.
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They invested half a billion dollars in their quarterback, right,
but they spread it out enough to make sure that
they don't cripple any other position on the team. Now
you're getting you're finding these diamonds in the rough, Isaiah Pacheco.
They're starting running back, seventh round draft pick, so it's like, wow, bravo.
Then you look Travis Kelce. He's aging a little bit,
and you know, the GQ cover doesn't really do him
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any favors today. But what I will say is like,
you know, you found him, You found Travis Kelce, you
found all these receivers, you found the speed. You traded
away Tyreek Hill, who was the fastest dude in the league,
and replaced him with a faster guy, you know what
I mean. Like, so in the defense always has leaders
and got and and the coordinator spag Nola. The guy's
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been the Super Bowls. He's won super Bowls. This is
what I'm talking about. Like, it's frustrating because I'm finally
maybe it's just me, you know, turning a corner as
a fan right now, because it's like it's very frustrating
to see how Jerry Jones operates as a GM as
an owner. He is lights out above the rest. Nobody
could touch Jared Jones and nobody.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That guy can assess Oligneman. I'll give him that fine,
But like the.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Same time, it's because the guy fucking played the position,
you know what I mean. So, like he knows he
knows football, right, he knows football. He's been around football forever,
but he doesn't know how to build a team. He
started Brett in ninety five or whatever it was. It
he was just like, oh shit, without what I can't pay,
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like he paid d On all that money, and it's like,
it's because no when they gave it. Fuck if you
paid d On all that money, you paid Emmett to
come back in ninety three, because who gives a shit,
Let's pay him as much as he wants. It doesn't
matter because there was no penalty against it. Right, So
it's like, dude, get you got to catch up with
the times. And again, all these podcasters and content creators,
they're all beating the dead horse. We're all sitting here
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saying the same fucking thing.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
What we're missing is what well Jimmy Johnson's talent was
finding talent, and he understood speed and he, like I said,
he ushered in where he would take linebackers and make
him d lineman and defensive backs and make them linebackers.
And you know, you forget how fast our team was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What you think about it, think about but think about
the roster of the of the championship teams, right, can
you name it the ninety five Super Bowl MVP? Yeah,
Larry Brown, Yeah, Larry fucking Brown. Do you know what
he did after that? Not a not a damn thing.
He's out of the league in two years.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
So it's like all of the players we lost and
I'm a big thing, but we didn't need theon I
know you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Love it was. It was a marketing thing.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But we pulled that Super Bowl out because of Aikman
and the way he was started taking over the team
because didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
No, he was patting everybody on the ass coordinations.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
And none of those guys that left ended up doing
anything except for Ken Norton and Russell Maryland.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, Maryland just kind of phased off too with the Raiders,
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he still Yeah. But
like what I'm saying is we together can go and
say the ninety two Cowboys might have been the best
team ever constructed. Right, Yes, you had the triplets, you
had eight men, M and irvn. Right, everybody knew about that.
Not too many people were talking about the j Noovichiks
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of the world, or the or the Alvin Harper's or
guys in the secondary named James Washington. Nobody fucking knew
wh James Washington was except us. Well, won a Super
Bowl and now everybody knows who the function Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Is and there's certain receivers that are better at a two,
and that would be Alvin Harper because he went away
and did nothing and had to come back, I think.
And then Tony Casillas left and came back and we
love to but he was at Atlanta as well, I think,
and then yeah, wasn't doing much there. We got him
blew it up again. We had we had a strong rotation.
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We were at least two three deep in our interior
and I know we just don't have that now. And
it's hard to have that in today's league because a
free agency salary pap is it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Because we're seeing other teams do it. And that's my problem.
That's my problem with Jerry Jones that we see other
teams build, build teams.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Once you get guy that let's say you bring in
a draft pick and he has two real good seasons
and then he's up for a contract. Sure the money's
through the roof. Then it's like, all right, if we
keep him. Now we got to get rid of this
guy and this guy or you know, if you're paying
if you're overpaying your quarterbacks, you're overpaying your receivers, you're
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overpaying your edge rushers. You you've got about four or
five guys. I mean, and look at the guys. Look,
if we weren't injured right now, you'd have Parsons, if
we signed them overshown digs. We'd have also starting Lea,
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who I think will be great. Just imagine our linebacking
corps with overshown and Parsons at the outside, one focused guy. No,
and then we had the kid we drafted that was
injured from Carolina Eastern Carolina. You know, we're gambling instead
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of gambling on free agency or get bringing in guys
that you know we have to pay a little more
for to fill these needs right away, We're not doing that.
I mean, look what we missed out on the running back?
Was it Chris Johnson? What was his name?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Which one the big.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Running back we could have got last year?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Last year? Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry. Yeah, no, we didn't
want to pay.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I got Chris Johnson from Chris Jesse j two k.
I I mean, we could have had Henry.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's an example. It's like you get you missed out
on Dereck Henry, and then you draft Phil MafA the
next year and you're like, well he's kind of big too.
It's like, no, man, you're missing the point. You're missing
the point. There's there's there's things you can address in
free agency, and there's things you want to build in
the draft. Yes, the draft is super pivotal. You got
to make sure you hit on a lot of their
draft picks. But the Cowboys they don't. They don't. Not
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just they whiff on some draft picks, but then they'll
drag it out as long as possible to to say
that they were right.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Right. Yeah, the ego comes.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The Mazzie Smith ship. I think that ship has sailed.
But again, what are you what are you gonna do?
Who are you gonna replace them with? At this point,
right now, right now, what are you gonna do? You're
gonna go trade for one? You could? You could, you
have the assets to do it. They just won't because
they're like, well, Mazzie's got some brown No man, it's.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Like, we want to be right on the draft picks
and every.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Single, every single one of them.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Brett and I think we're we're saying the same thing
where we're stuck in an error that doesn't this is
new new type of football and these just exist are
playing Madden with with with men?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I know, and it's it's unfortunate because as long as
you're stuck in the method that we're stuck in, like, look, man,
of course they got they hit on some draft picks.
Some of these guys turn out to be unbelievable. You
hit on Dak to me, you hit on Dak Prescott
and you got him in the fourth round, right, But
you then you turned him into first round payments. You
pay him now as if he was drafted in the
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first round.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Which the other thing is, I think the biggest error
was not when Romo was healthy, not not not starting.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Him what in fifteen, Yeah, that was that year, sixteen sixteen,
So that came back. He came back that first year.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I know, you got to go with the hot hand,
but no, you bring you have Romo come in, finished
the year and and you know, roll with that because
you had the experience. I remember the first game, the
only his last game was against Philly. He went like
eight for eight.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right down the field, right down the field, hits Terrence
Williams on a fucking fade into the corner and touchdown.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's we finally had the defense and we finally had
a running game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Look, it's fun to go back and talk about you know,
once what once, what was? What could have been right?
And then you look at this team now as constructed,
and I think there is some significant talent on this roster.
I really do. I think Dak Rescott's gonna happen. This
talent fantastic. I think Dak Prescott's gonna have.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
A fantastic players. Man, it's not abough talent, you know,
and look for me, I love. I know it sounds
crazy because Florino I only had one catch, but that
dude was open and he was.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
He reminds me of He reminds me of a Dez Bryant.
He does body gets up and gets balls like look,
and you can't make comparisons like that right away, but yeah,
he's got the building, the skill set to do that.
And you're eating like, but again, when when is he
gonna get burned? Man? When like preseason great, you know,
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but after that you're gonna have Ceedee Lamb, You're gonna
have George Pickens after that. It's it's I don't even
want to consider it a question mark because I think,
like I said, I think they have a Swiss army
Deebo Samuel type dude in Cavante Turpin, I think he
can be a play a pivotal role. I saw clips
today from practice. Uh Dak rolled out to his weak side.
All he had to do is throw it, and you
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knew Turpin was gonna get to it because he's that
fucking fast, right, and that's gonna work to our benefit.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, I mean again, but defense is our.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Problem, and yeah, I mean we're not.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
We just got to just see what happens. We got
to sign Mic as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Well, I mean as listen or trade him.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But who are you gonna get now?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Exactly? You can't. That's why I think this whole thing
is fluff, because I don't think you can't trade Michael
Parsons right now and get value for this season. You
can't do it right unless you trade him for fucking
I don't even know what. Like there would have to
be a starting DT, a starting corner and starting this
and starting that.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Another day, he's said the only guy he would take
is for Fred Warner.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, well again that's not available, right, So it's like, so,
so you can't trade him, no matter what he's requesting,
no matter what he wants to do, you gotta get
him on the field now again in typical Cowboys fashion,
if you remember just last year, a mere three hundred
and sixty five days ago, right on this sign you
could have signed him, and then you could have also
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gotten the Lamb thing done and the Dak thing done.
You realize it took to opening night Thursday Night Football
for the Cowboys to sign Dak Prescott last year.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
See don't now again. We talk about Jerry being a
good business man, but he loses leverage. He doesn't like
the longer he waited.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Listen, he's got leverage on Micah. He absolutely doesn't. There's
no question about him. Michael Parsons is on his fifth
year option and then they can franchise him twice, so
technically he could be under the Cowboys control for the
next three years. And Parsons can't say boo, that's just
the way to And if you want to sit out,
sit out. You see what happens to guys like Le'Veon
Bell when he sits out for a year, his career
is over right, so like and that's a running back
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and it's a different situation. But I think Michael Parsons
is a fucking unicorn. I think the guy should get
paid as such, right if he's if he was waiting
for these edg rushers to get their paydays, which they
all have. Now everybody's paid up, right. You got the
contracts of TJ. Watt, you got Miles Garrett, you got
all these guys, Max Crosby in Vegas. Everybody's got their deal.
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Now go sign yours, right, And for Jerry to drag
his feet like you said, the the owner, the guy
who negotiated Pepsi instead of Coke, Nike instead of Rebok,
all that shit. Genius, the GM, he doesn't know shit about. Fuck,
we know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
We need a good talent assessing GM.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And that's the thing. They have guys that are on
their coaching staff and their staff in itself that are
good at assessing talent. Because Will McLay has crushed the draft,
I think in the last couple of years he's got
a lot of good players on this team now. Because
he can evaluate talent, it's hard to evaluate what Micah
Parsons can do for your team.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I would bring in Charlie Partridge, the D line coach
at the Colts. It was one of the best recruiters
in college and the guy just can spot talent and
bring a guy like that in that could sit in
your war room and say, look, I saw this kid
in high school. I know every kid, and this guy's special,
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this guy's you know, this guy is a high Because
we also missed on that linebacker from NC State last
year to draft.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh that was your boy. Uh just think of Peyton something.
I want to say something. Peyton was balling man. Yeah,
I think he went when he went to Pittsburgh. If
I'm not mistaken anyway, I don't know. Regardless, we got
the Ravens, got the Ravens right, and what what exactly
are we going to get out of the Ravens. You're
probably not gonna seem Lamar right, but you might see
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you know who, We're going to see our dear good friend,
Cooper Rush. That's what we're gonna see. Can't wait for
Cooper Rush's return to Dallas. Those tickets should be flying
off the charts, which I'm really excited, to be honest
with you, to watch Cooper Rush against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Listen, I bet Milton, I bet Milton has a good game.
You know what I like too, is he put it
on him worse right, So what I'm saying he put
it on himself. He didn't. He didn't point fingers and
let him get a rhythm, you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Know, and we meet the damn ball? How about that?
How about run the damn ball? Milton talking about the team.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Greer looked like a goddamn awesar curious.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He comes out there looking like looking like legends of
the game, sort of like was on fire. Oh Greer
is the guy, and it listened. Game respects game. His beard.
Game is fucking incredible.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
If Milton was on his game, or what we're assuming
is his game, we should have won that. I mean,
he missed so many open tar overthrowing just.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Behind you yourself a favor, And do not watch like
the All twenty two and all that film shit, because
it is and I've done it and I've watched it
and it's just like, oh my god, was there's so
many players left on the field.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
But you know, look, it happens to again. I'm not
assessing Will Greer on one I mean Milton on one game,
but no, that happens to everybody. I mean, like I said,
Brett Farv was always off.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
He like you said, he was doing the ball in
the fucking stands and nobody bad and I they were
just like, ah, he might have something down the line.
And oh, by the way, became a fucking Hall of
Famer not even not even just Super Bowl Hall of
Fame quarterback. So like, yeah, is Joe Milton Brett Favre? No,
But like, is Joe? Can we see more out of
Joe Milton?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
I mean he's a big guy, and he's fast, and
he's got an arm.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
His athleticism is off the charts, off the charts. I mean,
he does standing fucking backflips like adn't dream of doing
it like that.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
But let's be honest, that's our future right now.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like yeah, unless unless you unless you find somebody in
the draft in the next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, but if we're looking at patterns, there's a good
chance that's gonna get for at least one or two
games will be out this year.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Again, we'll see. Well, let's just talk about the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like I said, so, in order for us to assess
the Ravens right Like again, we watched him in last
week's game. We watched Cooper Rush. His first throw as
a Raven was a pick. So now you're just like, ah, cool,
so you know it's gonna be one of those. But
he settled in. He was fine. They got a couple
other quarterbacks on their rise. Their running game is incredible.
They got a kid that just he has a chance
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to make some real noise. They're running back. I'm drawing
a blank right now. But the kid who played most
of the game last week, he's very fast. So now
it's an immediate test in the trenches, right, you want
to make sure that you can stop the run, the
ability to stop to run. The last time we saw
the Ravens, it wasn't pretty, right, and I know it
was you know, the regular season, so you know, Lamar
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was in and Derek Henry was running all over the place,
but it wasn't pretty. We got ran out of our
own building. So now again game result doesn't matter, but
you want to make sure you put some shit on
tape so we can at least next week when we're
talking about this game, we can say like, okay, we
have a guy that could flash at de tackle. Okay,
if our corners are still banged up, this dude can
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make a play. Is he can play in the slot, right,
like you can. You can look at that two games.
You'll have two games now under your belt with only
one more after that before it's fucking time for the Eagles,
which is mind numbing it itself. But like, you have
to assess this talent this week in practice and this
Ravens game, because there's not a soul that is going
to play a lot in the in the season. In
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the preseason finale against I think it's Atlanta if I'm
not mistaken, but like there's I can't imagine anybody playing
in that game. Of note, because you really are getting
close to Philadelphia. Remember our season starts four days before
the rest of everybody, so we really got to make
sure that this game coming up right now is the
game that you have to evaluate your talent more than
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any other game in the preseason. Game one, you want
to get your guys reps. You want to get guys
you know, throwing the ball, getting loose, getting stretched, Let's
see who can pursue the the you know, the ball carrier,
all that shit. Fine. Game two of a three game
preseason is the most pivotal one. And again I don't
give a fuck if they win the game, it doesn't matter.
We got to see some shit. We got to see
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that this team has some kind of promise and depth
because again Brett, the guys, if they don't play, we
got to make sure we have guys that can play
and step up.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Well. Again, our trenches are trenches. That that's the key.
Our D line has been again the Achilles heel. We
want to see cohesiveness with the backups on the O line,
and we want to see Milton hit hit his targets.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Shoanneimer straight upset any more pre stat penalties are going
to bench people have that.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You can't those, That's all, and it's way that's how
you fix a problem. And you know, look, I think
Shoty's heart's in the right place, his head's in the
right place. I know he was saying he doesn't surround
himself with yes men, but I hope he's not a
yes man with Jerry, and you know, because Jerry likes those.
(43:45):
I mean again, we're not in that, we're not in
the office, we're not in the in the rooms. We
don't know what the hell is going on. We just
always see the end result. And again, if you watch
other teams, they have similar problems.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
I mean even in the case they fell apart against
the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Its Eagles unfortunately lost their starting left guard for possibly
a couple of weeks. It will not be probably won't
be playing against US, and that's a big loss for them,
right Like the offensive line is everything. Nothing goes without
the boys up front. And right now we have to
figure out who's going to be starting on our line
because you got Lyle Collins out there, who you know
(44:23):
again signed off the street, hasn't played football in a
long time. Guidant's coming back from injury. Is brock Hoffman
gonna get any more burn? Is? You know? We obviously
know that the three up front is probably going to
be one of the better guards guard.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
And I say something though about Malik Davis. Sure he
and my brother liked him.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, no, what's not the like he's a good soldier.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
He's going to be running like that. I mean, because
you know again, you're it's almost like a second chance.
And I was I liked him on our team, you know,
not last year the year before.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
When was when wash?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
When did we get rid of him?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Well? He left after last year, so he was with
us last year for a little while. He was more
or less practice squad or bust for him. But yeah,
I mean, look again, to me, you have to be
a realist, right, you have to know that Malik Davis
was running up against guys that might be bagging groceries,
that stopping shopping three weeks all right.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Early, because look again the Rams, what we saw on
their D line and their line, they're they're not scrubs.
They're in the rotation. They got a young defensive team, man,
and and a lot of those guys that we played against,
I guarantee you will make the team.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I want, I want Schottenheimer to give quarters to each
one of these running backs. Enough of the scheme and
enough of that bullshit, all right, start off with if
Javonte is gonna get burned, get him burned. If Miles
Sanders is going to be a go, give him a go,
Jayden Blue is gonna be a go. Great in that
fourth quarter, we need to see more film offa. We
need to see your boy Malik.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Davis make a situational or that too.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
If we're on the goal line handed the hundle or MafA. Right, yeah, yeah,
so I think that situational stuff will be called. I
think that he already kind of went and cleared it
up that he's gonna play a lot more people. Uh,
but then he's gonna also take away snaps from guys
who played too much. So we might not see too
much Maurice lef Olt. We might not see that. I
(46:23):
don't know, but like all I know is you got
to see what you have because again, like we were
saying last week, it's no more weekly cuts, you know
what I mean, It's like nine fifty three. And then
you got a hold which guys. I again, I think
there was pros and cons to both, right, Like if
you got cut after week one, you had a chance
(46:43):
to go latch on with somebody else's team.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
And every team, every team, everybody, everybody on that field
that we're watching in preseason is playing for another spot
somewhere else if they get cut. That's true, and everybody's affected.
So once once there's gonna be a flood game because
there might be guys that we might take and be like, yo,
we got our eye on this kid. He may not
fit this team, but we you know, it's all of
(47:08):
them have to go through it. It was better as
a fan for the phases, but for a team, I
think it's better to assess at the end, see who
you gotta go with.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
See three weeks, give them three weeks of continuity and
ship and see where you can go and treate.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Somebody if you want to, or put them on waivers,
or put them on developmental squad all at the end
so you can see what they look like. Because again, man,
you know when and I've never played in the NFL,
right my highest level was college. But it's a different
speed and they got to get accustomed to it because
(47:45):
everybody out there is the best, is one of the
best in the country, even the third teamers. It's not
like you know.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing I say about
starting quarterbacks. Whenever somebody says like this, this guy stinks
and he's a thirty second quarterback in the NFL. Yeah,
well there's only thirty two of those spots in the world.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
So basketball player that do the white dude that plays
people when they're like you're not you're not, well, I'm
still better than you. You know what I'm talking about?
He plays them in one on ones.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Smoke I just talked. I thought you're talking about like
guys like Jake Paul who fight guys after their prime.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
No, no, no, no, no, he's an NBA player that that
everybody talks about.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Possibly, I don't know what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
He's really good. He's like, look, I'll show you the
difference in levels.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
And there is there is absolute levels to all this.
So yeah, we gotta we got to see what they've
tried out there this week against the Baltimore Ravens. Like
I said, we'll be back next week to break that
game down, and this one's gonna tell us a lot.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic about this game. I think I
think we're going to.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
See and it's the home opener, and hopefully the fans
are out there and bunches and ship and you know
they guys.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
In preseason, because every time I think we've been we
hadn't won a game or won one game in preseason.
We did well in the season.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
So I don't think we've won the first game of
the preseason in like a decade. So it's been a
fucking long time. So if they can get back, listen,
I personally go out there and get a convincing team win,
you know, make us feel good, Like you know, you
can't call it a victory Sunday or victory Monday. When
it's all said and done, you're like, we beat the
breakers off the rape. Can't do that, can't really analyze
(49:19):
the score, but we can pretty much get an idea
of who the fuck is going to be around on
this team going forward. So that'll do.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
It, all right, let's wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
I gotta make Yeah, he's got to call Jerry and
see what's going on with the defensive.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
We're beating a dead horse here.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, no, I understand that, So listen, enjoy the Ravens game.
Let's stay injury free. There's a whole lot more practice
to happen state in the game.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
When is the game Saturday.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Or Saturday night? Yeah, Saturday night. So if you want
all things Cowboys, I'm a very active member on the
Cowboys Twitter verse. You can follow me at Dave Stercio.
I'm going at it with a lot of people. You know,
I said, you say one wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
And on the bottom of our screen that's true to him.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, well, you're not as active on Twitter anymore anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I just brought on some social media people.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
There you go all right with this podcast?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, no, let's do it, let's get let's do it
all right. Sounds like a plan. So for Dave, start Yell,
and Brett Ernst and of course the Grinch, wherever he
may be, enjoy the calibary.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
I gotta I gotta admit the podcast is not the
same without the Grinch.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It's definitely not the same. It's not as thorough and
it's not as in depth. I want to say, we
threw a lot of generalizations out there, general.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And it's it's you know, who wants to hear a happy.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
He'll pick us apart. I can't wait. He's gonna I
guary he'll listen to the podcast right after this so
was his post, and he'll listen and then he'll say,
I'm you guys on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
You know he because he does this when we're talking.
He looks to the side. You gotta do and he just.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
And that's Thanksgiving dinner when when we're losing.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Oh my god, I'm in tall. I I have to
you known't need Thanksgivings. I eight alone, like I just
can't be around people. Just a game.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Dame.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
We respect your loyalty, but you know, little we have
little starch, that's always optimist. Well, you know this guy.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
I think I'm turning to listen. I think I'm turning
a corner and it's not gonna be like bitter old
man Starch, but it's gonna be a little bit more
on the real side. And you know, if we stink,
we stink. If there's holes, there's holes, we'll fill them
all out. We'll bring them.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Anybody's name.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
If I had, if I had, if I had a
nickel for every time, what's the game, what's the guy's name? Like,
Oh yeah, shitload of nickels. So that'll do it, I.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Said Chris Johnson over Derek Henry. I don't even know
who Chris Johnson was. Anty didn't he play for like
the Bengals or something.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
No, he's a Titan. He's a Titan. And that's c
J two K. You get ran for two thousand yards.
There's not some bull So that's what I was thinking of.
They just also fell off the face of the earth
like most cowboys do. So that'll do it, everybody. I'll
see you guys next time.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Hey, listen, Tony soprano and you're listening to Jersey Boys
podcasts with your hosts Dave Sturshiew and the Urn Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit about the Cowboys
when New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey anyways. Enjoy well, whatever,
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