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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this is Starny soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcast with your host Dave Stshiow and the Urns Boys.
I mean, I can give a shit, but the Cowboys
were New Jersey. These guys got bulls being cowboys, fangin Jersey. Anyways,
enjoy well whatever?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, Cowboys Nation, how are we doing. I hope
everybody's doing well out there. Welcome to the Jersey Boys Podcast.
If your first time listener, first time viewer, welcome to
the shit show that is the Dallas Cowboys. And of
course this is Dave st Show alongside the Grinch himself,
America's fan Keith Earns. Brett Earns on assignment right now.
He is trying to track down Micah and apologize for
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everything that we've done.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So anyway, I hope everybody's doing well out there. It
is a it's been.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
A really, really weird I guess ten twelve hours of
the Cowboys or even more than that, almost twenty four.
I guess you could say I was at the Rutgers
tailgate Rutgers one and oh by the way, but uh yeah,
I was at the Rutgers tailgate.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Got the news.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Uh not fun times to get the news like that,
especially when I had a face the music, and also
call my old business partner, Chris Gucci, who's a packer head,
and I texted him and I called him and I said,
hey man, He's like, hey, you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Know what I mean, like he knew how I was feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Keith, your uh, your knee jerk reactions to the Micah
Parsons trade. We have people filing in on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.
If you're if you're on Twitter right now and you're watching,
come on over to the Chop Sports media YouTube channel,
subscribe and drop your comments. And looks like Jeff Jeff
from Canada is already saying, here we go. Cowboys are
going twelve and five according to Jeff, which is hilarious.
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Love you man from Canada. But Keith, your first knee
jerk reactions to this whole debacle.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You're not gonna You're not gonna bring up what I
what I said.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, look all right, so here, hold on, let
me let me clean all this egg off my face
real quick, because last episode I said that there was
no no shot, no shot. You can deal with Michael
Parsons right now because of the value of what you
can get, which you can get in return with you know,
just wait, if you just wait till the end of
the season, you'll figure out who's got the top ten picks.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Blah blah blah. I said, no way.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And what Keith had came back and said was, uh, yeah, yeah,
you can. You can get a whole lot of value.
Let's get a couple first round picks and a player.
And oh, by the way, that's what they got, a
couple first round picks and a player.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And what I was trying to get out, which I
got out to my to other people I speak with,
is I pretty much said that two first round picks
and a play and a team's best defensive tackle. That's
what I was saying, which.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is crazy that it happened.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Right, So I am on the outside here of most
Cowboy fans, and I know people are gonna freak out
right now, but I willing to say. Now, here's another
thing starts. Well, you got to realize you're bringing up
herschel Walker, herschel Walker, herschel Walker in text, right. You
got to remember herschel Walker was mid was third or
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fourth game of the season in one in fifteen, it
didn't happen before. So when they traded him, it was
during the one in fifteen season. So I just want
to put that out there. Okay, you don't have to
wait till the end of the season. And let me
tell you something. If social media was around, then the
same reactions would have happened, the same exact thing. Nobody
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could believe the Cowboys traded the best, not the best
offensive player in the NFL. They were saying he was
the best player in the NFL at the time, and
look what we did with that. Now, I'm going to
bring this up Cowboy Nation. Okay, take a deep breath,
but I'm willing to say this is the best move
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Jerry Jones has made since Jimmy left. And it's gonna
and it's it's it's a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I get it. I get it right now. I'm just
gonna say, somebody asked me my knee jerk reaction. I said,
you're gonna have to ask me in twenty twenty seven,
you know what I mean, Like when you when you
turn all this into something, And then that was Jerry's thing.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
He's like, well, he's all they could be Pro bowlers.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I'm like, yeah, I understand that, Jerry, but they
can also be Mazzie Smith and you can whiff, you know, like,
so that is a possibility. That's why right now, right now,
go ahead, I was gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
But also you look at late round picks like a
ray Lewis or Ed Reid. There are players you can
get late in the first round. So everyone thinks the
Packers are going to be like the thirtieth picks suddenly.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There now they're going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
But that's my whole thing with this, Okay, and this
is where I'm being misunderstood. I think Mike is a
great player. I think he's a fantastic pass rusher. But
to me, that's all he is. And that's that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And here's my thing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Look at it, all right, I.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Gotta ask you. I'm gonna ask everyone a question right now.
What was our best defensive performance last.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Year, Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
No, it was the Steelers, believe it or not. Oh
all right, yeah, we had two in twelve yards. Guess
what Micah was his first game injured. Okay, he wasn't
on the field at all during our best defensive game. Now,
let's talk about our first three home games last year.
Actually okay, yeah, where we got the total yards are
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almost five hundred yards with Micah on the field. And
I'm gonna bring up this Green Bay playoff game again.
And I know I keep beating a dead horse, whatever
the fuck it's called, right.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But I'm bringing it up because.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
He had zero sacks in that big game against Green
Bay at home, by the way, against the first year quarterback.
I know it's his second year, but a first year
starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But to make it.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Worse, you'll never guess how many tackles he had. And
we got ran over that game too, two tackles the
whole game. Now people are comparing him to Reggie White,
which is driving me crazy. All right, Micah Parsons has
one sack in four playoff games.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And you want to know something about that one sack.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
That one sack was against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with
a minute and thirty seconds left in the fourth quarter
when the game was.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Already done, and it was on Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So on Tom Brady. That's one sack. Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
So and to compare the Reggie White, who by the way,
had three sacks and one Super Bowl, I mean, it's ridiculous.
It's the most ridiculous comparison because Reggie White is one
of the most well rounded defensive players ever.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And my, oh, go ahead, no, I.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Was gonna say. I mean, that's what that's a lot
of people are saying about MICHAEH.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Parsons. I mean, the kid's twenty five years old. So
he just got his first Mega deal, right, and shout
out to Micah for retiring his mother.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That was a cool video.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Again, it sucks he's gone, but go ahead, Well, he
just basically said he's making money now that mom doesn't
have to work no more.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Ever, but he was making like ten million a year before. Yeah,
but now before he wants to get her own islander.
So he's taken it all himself like that. No, I
uh know it like for me, that's the tout.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's That's what people were saying about Michael Parsons is
that he was and is one of the future defensive
you know, best defensive edges in the world. And and
I tend to agree to a point where I like
his skill set undeniable, undeniable, motor, high motor, high energy,
can get to the quarterback, can wreck a game, he
absolutely can. But to your point the you know, the
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the lack of production when it mattered. You know, there's
a lot of people saying, I can't believe, you know,
the Cowboys did this. Now they're not going to win.
But let's be honest, what what have we won with
him on the roster?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Again, three straight twelve and five seasons, right, A lot
of a lot of success during the you know, the
inners of the one through seventeen weeks of the NFL.
But now, you know, it gets to the point where, okay,
now we really need these games and these guys that
really really show up when it really really matters. And
and look, nobody did. I'm not just putting this on Michaeh. Parsons,
but nobody did. But now the amount of money the
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Packers are paying him, I don't even think. And Jerry
Jones claims that the offer he made was actually more
guaranteed money than the Packers just gave him. So yeah,
so like that that at least that's what I got
out of the press conference yesterday, or maybe he was,
you know, singing his delusional ways. But like I will
say that the Cowboys now have a ship ton of money.
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What they do with that money right off the rip,
I can I can think right off the top is
like extend guys like Deron Bland, Tyler Smith, what I because,
I mean, I got kind of limited.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
What I want to get into what we're actually losing here? Okay,
because and what I'm trying to say is with Mike uh,
I meant, dude, all right, this is to pack I
know Packer fans aren't listening, Okay, but this is what
you're gonna get. Maybe one gonna get splash plays against
the Bears. You are shitty team, But when they're playing
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the Lions for the division, I want to see where
Micah is.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Then.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Okay, because going through so everyone's talking about fifty four sacks.
Fifty four sacks in four seasons, that's amazing. Do you
know where half of those sacks came from? Do you
want me to tell you?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Because I will sure.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Hey, half of those sacks came against the New York Giants,
the Washington Commanders who sucked until last year, and you'll
never guess the other team, the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right, big fucking deal. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
When you're going through that San Francisco Sunday night game,
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Zero sacks.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
He didn't play in the one last year, the Buffalo
game where we got when it was them versus us
and we needed that game for whole field advantage. Zero
sacks and three tackles. That's what I'm talking about, guys.
I mean, I don't understand why this is so hard
to see this. This is the difference between Jersey buyers,
not New Jersey, not Jersey Boys, Jersey buyers and people
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that actually watch every play of every game. And this
is not knocking micah All. It's saying is I did
not want to give a player like that that much money.
I would have gave him thirty million, thirty five million,
I'm at whatever, maybe even, But I know what the
market was asking, and it was asking for it. It's
his turn to be the highest pay non quarterback. Well,
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that person should be the best non quarterback in the NFL,
and it's not him. It's just not so Anyways, I
got that off my chest too.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, no, I look, I mean, and make no mistake
about it. You know, the Cowboys did turn this into
two ones, which gives you four number one picks over
the next two years, which is nice to have right
to luxury. And I might be frozen here for a second,
but here we go. So it might be a nice
luxury to have is four first round picks. But the
problem I have now is is, Okay, the first round
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picks are there, Keith, but look how we treat our
first round picks at the end of their rookie deals.
They don't even know how to handle that shit. Now
you want to handle four players in four years from now,
five years from.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Now, Well, here's my question to you. I mean, you're right,
they do weight, But that's what everyone's saying. I've got people,
by the way, I'm at war on social media. I mean,
it's so hard, and you know what's the hardest part,
and you have kids, so trying to get my kids
ready for school, and I read one comment and before
I know, my daughter was like, where's breakfast? I'm like
a man because I'm piping away. You know, I'm such
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a loser. So anyways, so but yeah, what were you
saying though, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm just saying like, are we really prepared, okay, actually
make four first round picks in the next.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Two years or are we going to dish them off?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Because yeah, I mean you're right, okay, but you look
at like we signed Zeke, which didn't turn out to
be the best idea.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
If we would have done this with Zeke, you.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Don't think the whole world would have went crazy on
social media.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Johnny Box coming in a month ago, I would have
said this was crazy, But you guys just spot on.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm fully converted to team Grinch.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Steve Grinch, Johnny love it. But think about it for
a second. If they did this with Zeke, you're telling
me that the same thing wouldn't have happened. Oh, they're
giving away the best running bastions since Emmic Smith or
Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. Oh there are a bunch
of everyone goes crazy because they're all Jersey buyers. You
know what I'm saying, M Like, you got to understand
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the game and how it works. Now, I I will
say that he got DAK, he got CD.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is very unlike Jerry.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
To do what he did, very young, characteristic, to let
go over.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Very characteristic.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
So and I don't even know if maybe Steven wanted
to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Who knows, because Jerry might be on his way out,
Steven might be the one making those picks exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So I don't know, but I like it for the
simple fact. And now, guys, you got to understand. And
in our last podcast, Dave, I was listening to it
as starch. You literally go from saying, and it's crazy
the segua. You went from saying, our deepest spot on
the on our deepest position on the Dallas Cowboys right
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now is our edge rushers.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's what you say.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And I still think that.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, And your very.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Next comment was our weakest link right now on our
on the Dallas Cowboys is our defensive line.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And it's just how this works, right, We're working look
where we need it. Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So I'm just saying I like the trade. I'm not.
It doesn't mean I don't think Mike is an exceptional player,
but I don't think he was worth what was given
to him at all at all.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I just don't. Yeah, I'm not about to play that
game where what I think guys are worth or not.
But like you know, and like you said before, it
was his turn. He was up and then like the
market dictated his salary, and that's what it is. But
for for the Cowboys to like a lot of people
are like, well, if they had all the money, because
now they have forty seven million dollars in cap space,
which is second highest in the NFL, next to the
Patriots who have fifty two. So now people are like, well,
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they had all this money, why didn't they signed Micah right,
And I'm like, I think this is simply a case
of Jerry Jones felt like he got punked by Micah
Parsons and his agent. And if you all watch the documentary,
which I know all most of Cowboys Nation has, the biggest,
most riveting part of that whole entire series to me
was the end of episode four when he told ed
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when he told ed Warder to stick it. Now, I'm
just saying, when he told Edward stick around for the show.
And then he's like, well, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
You?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I'm gonna fire that motherfucker Jimmy Johnson. And we're like, wait,
you just won two Super Bowls, dude, what are you doing?
And like, so to me, this is him saying, you
know what, we offered you the biggest guarantee of all time,
and all we're gonna tell you right now is you
don't agree to these terms, then play on that fifty
year option. Play on that option right now, just like
Dak did, just like you know, just like some others have.
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And Dak was franchised twice by the way, you know,
and then and got paid sixty million a year. So
they weren't willing to wait it out. And they said,
if you if you don't want to play in the
fifth that's fine, but you're out of here, man like.
And that's it. So again, no hard feelings, I don't
think between the I can say that, but I don't
know what I'm saying. Like, just based off of everything
that I've read Mike's tweet, a lot of stuff from
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Jane Slater, a lot of stuff from Patrick Walker, it
feels like that, you know, the the divorce is over,
but like the visitation for the kids isn't going to
be really negotiated too heavily, is what I'm saying, Like
you know what I mean, Like they're they're going to
be like, hey, listen, do I think like I said
in the last episode, I literally said, don't trade it
to a team like the Packers because it's a back
end draft pick, right And then they wind up doing
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that and I'm just like, what the what is a
dime this is a stimulation anything. Yeah, And nobody knows
exactly why people do what they do. All I know
is for whatever reason. Jerry Jones went on record yesterday
and said that they're better now, like they're good, And
I'm like, all right, you can't trade away that good
of a player and pretend that you're good like that
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you're better, because yes, did they fill a need on
Kenny Clark, defensive tackle, twenty nine years old. The little bit.
You know he's gonna be on the plus side of
thirty soon. But pro bowler, like, I get it. Good player.
You can't deny he's not a good player, right, But
you know, it's the unknown shit, and it's the it's
the fact that.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Like my thing is though I know, I know, I'm
just saying I think we are going to have a
better defense this year.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I just do.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
And I know I know it sounds crazy, I know,
but bro, he was awful against the run. Everyone has
just seen this, this sac presence. I mean, go look yourself,
Go go look at stats. Look at when he's on
the field and how many yards are rushed against him.
Go back to that Baltimore game. He's single handedly had
almost two hundred yards in his direction when he's supposed
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to be stopping the run. I mean, the game is
more than just dropping back for a pass. There's more
to it than a big splash play. You know, look
at look at White, look at Lawrence Taylor, look at
these players. They were never on a team that allowed
almost twelve hundred yards of offense in three straight home games,
Never in a million years. I mean, it's this is
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I'm bringing up facts.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
This is I said I would be interrupting and trying
to encounter you. But you're bringing up all facts.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So that's not like this is the truth. I mean,
you've got to look at that. I understand he's he's
he's dynamic, and he's a physical specimen and you know
he's like Brett's mom. But but seriously, though, it's it's
something where you know, it looks I mean, it looks
good on paper, should I say, But it really doesn't
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when you go into the stats, because it doesn't. Right,
he's not good against the run. If he doesn't make
the big play.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You do see him slow.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Down after And what outside notice is him getting tired.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
A lot too in games so well, because when you.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Besides that big back against the Carolina Panthers that he made.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I mean, that's huge, right, Frank's coming in on Twitter.
That's my boy Frank from GPW Productions. The trade is
a big win for.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
The Lions run game.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
He's the Lions fans, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, you're good, Frank. You're gonna be okay. Frank's the man.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I mean, look, I got Bears fans that were angry
with me last night. They were texting me like, you
son of a bit. You're the one who did this.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is your all your fault because you said it wasn't possible.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I'm like, dude, you could I swear to God, like,
up until the trade broke, you couldn't convince me. Jerry
Jones was moving on from this kid, like just based
off of history, just based off of who we've had
on this team, and how many times you're gonna be
a cowboy for life. I'm gonna put you on the
broadcast team in thirty years, you know all tho shit, right,
You're gonna be this cowboy mogul forever.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Now Here.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I am thinking, like, you know what, four years from now,
when the Packers are like you know what, it didn't
pan out.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Maybe there's a reunion in Dallas. Who knows, Like, I
have no idea I was gonna.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Say, though, I mean, and the reason I did when
we did the podcast the other day, and I was like,
why not?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Why can't they why can't they trade him? I understand,
I don't unerstand what you're saying. In that documentary, the
very first episode, Jerry Jones says something that was sticking
in my head as well. And what he says is,
when you succeed in business, you got to do the
opposite of what everyone's thinking. And it's weird that he
hasn't been doing that until this. Yeah, he's never done
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anything like this since freaking uh you know, I even
even herschel Walker. I meant, you got I mean, there
were other moves they made, the Charles Haley moves. I mean,
there were a lot of good moves the Cowboys made when.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Jimmy was there. But you know a lot of these
espns and f S one guys are out there saying
this is the worst trade the Dallas Cowboys have ever made.
Can I also interest you in trading two first round
picks for Joey Galloway, Can I also can I also
in the first round picks we give up for Roy Williams,
you know what I mean, Like it's not the worst,
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You're good. Sorry, it's good, ladies, And this is R
rated now no, but in reality, like this isn't like
this is obviously catastrophic in the in the in the
moment in right now you're all like we're all feeling
in our feelings where we're like, this is this is
fucking this is brutal, like you know, like I can't
believe they actually did this general public, not me, yes,
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what the general Cowboy public. And you know what though,
And I went off on my high horse yesterday and
I might have said a couple of things like, yo,
if you want to just mail in your Cowboys fan
card because of this, then go ahead. You're a bitch,
you know, like it straight up, like you're soft, Like
you can't get over the fact that the Dallas the
Dallas Cowboys do things a little unorthodox comparable to other teams.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And then the response to that was, well, we've been
dealing with this for thirty years. You're spoiled.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You had the nineties, And I'm like, you know, not
for nothing, but like I should be given a fucking
pullitzerprise for sticking around for this team for this long
after thirty years of nothing. Right, So if you want
to leave now, fine, but the revolution will be televised.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Okay, I'm saying like this is I'm just because this
is this isn't there?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
And their defense too, I mean, you know, just because
they're they're not happy with the trade doesn't mean they're
not fans anymore on either side.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean it's like, you know, right, like this is it,
this is the last draw for me, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
If you're saying that, then I you know, Brett does
that all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
He's always like I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. I'm tired.
I'm tired. I mean literally, before last episode, before you
got on, we're sitting here bullshit and wait and he's like, man,
I gotta tell you I'm optimistic.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And then we started the show, He's like, man, I
tell you this, this sucks.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Just like, come on with everything with everything that you
that you love. And I don't mean to compare, but
I'm saying, how many times have you been in relationships
You're like, I'm leaving this bitch.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like done, and you're you're back together the Dallas. You
get upset. You get upset, you know. And this is
the reason why I stick around is because the Dallas
Cowboys are the most dysfunctional relationship, most abusive mentally abusive
relationship I've ever been into my life, but I keep
coming back. It's like the fucking Ronnie and Sam from
the Jersey Shore, Like, no matter how bad it gets,
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you're always coming back. So for me, right now, what
so I have no clue what that man ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You're not familiar with the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But for me, it's like, right now, it's it's stings
that we made a move like this, right because it's
like literally like look at the timing. We gotta we
got a game in a in six days. So it's like,
were we preparing for life after Micah? I think we
were right. I mean, we're practicing that way right. There
was no Michael hasn't practiced in weeks, right, so they're
they're well ahead. I feel bad for somebody like a
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Brian Schottenheimer right now, but I do also think that
there's optimism in changing the culture of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You got rid of the guy that's the most vocal.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
When I talked to Chris on the phone, Chris Gucci,
he he's like, there's got to be a clause in
this new deal that he can't do a podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I said, no, no, no, no, no, no no, you
have to deal with the podcast now, Like he's.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Gonna go on record every week and say like, oh,
we should have won that game if it wasn't for this,
you know, and put somebody under the bus like he's
had before on the Cowboys podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Last night, I stayed up late to listen to his brother.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
His brother was talking in a live space on Twitter
and he was saying, like Jerry at the eleventh hour,
Jerry just got fed up. You know, he got fed up.
And that's the kind of shit that when you're Jerry
Jones and you feel like you've been wronged or double
crossed or anything like that. And again, yes, should he
have been dealing with the agent from the jump? Absolutely?
I hated that podcast so much. Oh yeah, well, the
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Catching Missiles here on Twitter hated the podcast.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Nobody liked it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Nobody liked it, Like nobody went out there and is
like I can't wait to see what Michael Parsons has
to say about that loss. Nobody liked it, right, So hey,
that's one least thing. Now, think about the team that
we have right now on paper right now? Is there
anybody out there on the fifty three man roster right now?
I'm not saying do they have a podcast? They might,
they might, whatever, But I'm saying, like, is there anybody
that's going to be vocally, you know, give us a
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bitter taste in our mouth?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Or can we just deal with Jerry now?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Now it's not just it's not my can now, it's
just Jerry Jones post game, I'm disappointed or I'm very
happy or whatever, and like someone that's going to have
a podcast or something or.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Leader, somebody who's going to be vocal like a Micah Parsons.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't think that exists on this team right now,
which is no, no, no post game and the media
and all I'm saying that I don't like, I don't
want that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Now the Cowboys are free and clear y.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Senile mouth. Now now we can yeah, exactly. All we
got to do now is just deal with fucking Jerry Jones.
But like for from now on, you got you know,
Dak Prescott, who's been like dubbed as unk because he's
the oldest tenured cowboy in the team. Right, he's got
explosive offense. We don't know about the running game yet,
we're going to see that we talked about on the
last show.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
H Here's my question though, here's my question, and this
is where I thought you were getting at. Who is
going to be the vocal leader now on that defense
since uh uh d Law is gone and Micah, I'm
rolling with Dante Fowler. I think he's going to step
up because he's the veteran, he's been on the team.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And I like a Fowler on the defensive end.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But if I'm not, if I'm if I'm really like
rooting for somebody to step up and be the vocal guy.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I could see like a Molie Cooker being in that role, or.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's it's it's more to me it's Malik Hooker as well,
because he's a veteran, So I mean, I think it's
a it should be a veteran player.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
But look how young that defense is now.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Man, I know, I know, but if Malik Hooker hasn't already,
it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Just gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I understand. I understand.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And look, you're looking at someone like you.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You're looking at someone like Fowler, who who I would say,
you know, has been a captain on several teams and
maybe he did feel like when he was on the
team last you got d Law, you got Micah, I'm here.
But now he's the dude, he's the veteran, he's the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So I'm hoping he steps up.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
And look, it doesn't have to be someone who plays
all the time. Vocal leaders can just I mean, look
at Haslim for years on the Miami Heat, you know
what I mean, Like you get players that that you
know that and he contributes.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
This guy, I mean Feller. So what if I was
to tell you that the most vocal guy on this
team going forward is going to be somebody like the
Marvyn Overshown.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, when he gets back, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, you know, so that that could be somebody we
hang our hats on and say, like that's our guy
right now. Now he's going to I know again he's
he's coming off injury. You know, he's had some bad luck.
But somebody you're talking about, some vocal leaders like Osa,
you never know Oh, so you're looking to turn this
whole thing around Kenny Clark. Look, he's coming in there,
right and I'm not going to say he's gonna take over,
but we've seen that happen with A Bennett right when
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Bennett came in here, I guess I'm gonna have to
be the vocal leader here. Ye didn't work out for us,
But what I will say is this is this is
a and the just the Sports seventy eight on YouTube
right now.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
This was a culture change move and he loved it.
So like this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
There are like the older heads like you and myself, Keith,
are probably looking at this like, you know what, like
we may have lost a really, really good player, but
maybe we don't have to deal with all the extra
for ship now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Now, now it's down the brass tacks. Now it's down
the football.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And again maybe this is me trying to like pump
myself up because I'm so pissed that it happened. But
at the end of the day, nobody's gonna know nothing
for a couple of years on about this trade because
how many times have they gone back to the Khalil
Matt trade and all these other trades, like this is
what it turned out to be and like soon enough,
Like I just got the phone my my Raider fan
friend Mark, and he said, uh, you know Khalil Mack
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that turned into Josh.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Jacobs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Like so so things like that can materialize into future
players people.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
We're We're a little bit different than every other team.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It just seems that ship has always I will say
this enough with the arch Manning ship right now, I
don't really like I saw that a couple of times
and it was des Brian put it, Mark my words,
like dude, Dez, there's a reason why you're outside and
you know you're not. You're not in your luxury box anymore.
So I'm not entertaining that at all.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And like I said, actually, man, I'm the Grinch is
a little more positive about this season. Now.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
The only thing I'm suspect on and we're talking about,
and I cut you off like the Grinch does, uh,
is the running back room.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And I'm still a little suspect on the linebackers. But
I like having two interior defensive linemen which will make
the linebacker and uh, a little easier for the guys
stopping the run, and we got four above average I
think pass rushers on the outside.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think, like I said, for that boom, splash, play, sack, fumble,
shit that will exist. It doesn't have to be Michael
Parsons to do that, you know what I mean? And again,
good good riddance. And I hope I don't say I
hope he know excels because guess what week four Sunday
Night football, Mike is coming home back, you know what
I mean? Right or twenty ninth. Yeah, at the end
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of September. But like, that's gonna be musty television. I
hope it doesn't turn into a Atlanta Falcons type game
where where Dak just gets just completely pummeled. But you
get out that game.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Can you imagine can you imagine the Packers coming and
we just run him out of town.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Mike is going to ball out that game.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Oh of course, Bro, he's gonna die. He's gonna die.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We're gonna be like cee cee cee.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
And then then at the end of the year when
they got to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, we have one and a half tackle and then
the Packers. This trade also just made us one and
a half point underdogs against the Packers, so we I
think we're favored for a minute, and now we are
dogs to the Packers in Week four as of right now.
Who knows what's the the You got another comic com
and Jerry and Steven have been criticized for not changing
it up on how they do things. Jerry hinted that
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there was a change in philosophy and how they approach
the off season and contracts. Now, look, you knew and
saw and dealt with what we dealt with last year
with Dak and CD. We already went through that ship, right,
So it's like you knew how tiring this was. And
I said that the James later the other day. I
was like, I'm tired, you know, I'm exhausted, Like this
shit is tiring and now it's over.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So you know what the Cowboys do with those picks,
Well we will.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Crazy search is that the the Eagle game was started
at I think seven, and it's at seven and.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
A half now, So we lost a half a point
because of Micah. Yeah, not terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean, hey, Vegas, that's a good question. We've had
solid pass rush, but always run situations.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
More of the teams expose us. We have more of
a balance now, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I agree, I agree, I have. The people on Twitter
have spoken. There's over one hundred people watching us right
now on so many people are agreeing with us.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Like I said, I said in the Good Ones in
are you just like the good No? No, no, I'm
sitting them all like whatever. Like I said, there's one
hundred and eleven people watching right now. Xavier, my boy
x from high school. Damn Our Cowboys will definitely be
a high powered offense with Dak Dak back, but it's
still going to be the twenty twenty five Bengals with
a lot of offense and not enough defense. I still
hope they could shock the world and beat the Eagles.
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I thought that I was going to put that out there.
The twenty twenty five Cowboys will be the twenty twenty
four Bengals. Like Dak's going to have this MVP type
season where he puts a forty touch down and shit,
and we just lose games forty to thirty seven because.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It gets tops.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm crazy like that.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, it is, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's gonna be one of those things where you know,
we can't judge this trade based off of this year,
you know what I mean, Like, if you want, if
the Packers add a couple of wins that they might
have not got because of a Micah sack or whatever,
then yeah, then you can actually say, like, hey, listen,
this trade worked out for us, but for the Cowboys.
I don't think there's a game on the schedule right
now where I'm going to say, like, fuck, if we
would have had Micah, we would have won that game. Yeah,
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that's all I'll say right now.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
And again we do.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Play way wait wait, wait, wait wait, we played the
Carolina Panthers, so we all know that he had He's
always has awesome sacks and a good amount of sacks
against the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, that's true, too.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Strong interior offensive line of defensive line, an elite quarterback
play equals the winning formula in today's NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Look, we just saw it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
We just saw Patrick Mahomes get the shit kicked out
of him in the Super Bowl because of.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
It with that guy with whoever just said that is
that's the truth. It's like, cause your past, your pass
rush makes sure make sure defensive backs better because they're
covering for you know, less less and not only that,
they're stopping the run and the dbs are coming up
and helping if they can't stop to run, but at
LEAs they're getting a hand on somebody and then on
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the flip side of the offensive line protecting. I'mant, you know,
So I'm really you know, I'm I'm digging this, man.
I'm more excited about the season now.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I think right now I'm in I'm still in coping
mode where I'm just like, I'm gonna say as much
positive shit as I possibly can to convince myself that
this was a good move. And again, you won't know this.
Talk to me in two years from now. What did
we turn those picks into? Do we turn it into
a franchise winning quarterback? Do we turn it into the greatest?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Might listen? Check it out. Ready.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
There's a thing called Michah Parsons that we drafted. And
athletes get bigger, stronger, faster as we go in life.
So maybe we do find another Micah Parsons down the road.
We don't know, right, So you can't you can't just
sit there and say, like, ah, the Cowboy They went
from a nine win team to a fucking six win
team because they lost Michael Parsons. We went twelve and
five with him. When he showed up in the biggest spots,
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he wasn't there. And again I'm not knocking the guy's
skill level, because we all know he's an elite player
in this league. But at the end of the day,
you know we didn't win shit with him, So let's
see what happens without him. I mean, the Troy Aikman
are guy, right, he would go on and say, well,
the Cowboys are gonna be worse without him.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
And maybe he's got some validity to that.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But when you like, like a couple of the comments
already saying a balanced defense with guys that can fucking
you know, plug a few holes up front rather than
run at Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Like it might shock that Aikman said that, Like I get,
I get Des Brian, I even get Michael Irvin saying stuff.
And the only reason I say that is because I
believe that Troy Aikman actually watches the games. He doesn't
have conversations like I could see Michael Irvin watching a
Cowboy game and just talking to everyone around and not
really paying attention. Same with Dez Bryant, but you know
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the way, and Troy Aikman does a lot of our
games too, So I'm actually that's the one I'm like, Okay,
that's the one that that that gets me thinking a
little bit where I'm like, well, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Exavier's also bringing up Donovanizeraku from the like the Boston
College Eye steps up make us up a couple of plays,
but we're all trying to listen. We said it the
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Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't get.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We're just doing this because we like to talk Paul,
and we're realists and we're fans and you know, we
grew all three of us Bretton not here, grew up
in Jersey, in enemy territory, and we hate the fucking
Giants and the Eagles and the Redskins and Commanders whatever.
But look, man, to put a ball on this. I
know you know you got somewhere to go, and I
got a busy day as well. But the Cowboys made
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a significant move, one of the biggest trades that they've
ever made in their franchise history. This goes up there
with the herschel Walker trade, even though I feel like
the herschel Walker trade produced more. But we're not gonna know.
We're not gonna know for a couple of years of
what this produces. Next week, six days away, the Cowboys
play the Eagles. I still am standing on the ground
that I think the Cowboys when you when you look
at opening days and like first two three weeks in
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the NFL, not all these elite teams have their footing yet.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
So if you're going to pick a team off, you
do it on opening night.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And I think the Cowboys can have a legitimate chance
if you want to make it a shootout, and make
it a shootout. If Dak has the ball last, we're
gonna win that game. So I'll tell you this right now.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I don't know if I can make next week, Bros.
Far Jesse, Holly, Oh, okay, what's going on? And I'll
be in Vega. But anyways, regardless, I'm gonna do my
prediction now.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
And if you were listening to me up until this point,
you knew I was taking the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I like us in this game.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I like the fact that everyone thinks the defense is
going to suck now because you got some badass grown
men athletes that can fucking ball in that locker room
with a great defensive core, and they're going to show
the world. I don't think it's a shootout.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I just don't. I think the Eagles it's.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Either going to be we win by double or a
low scoring game where we win like twenty to seventeen,
or something.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Where the MVP machine missile named Brandon Butter Aubrey kicks
a game winning field goal in a tight situation.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Who knows if we get like.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I'm the opposing twenty five yard line.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm gonna say this season's recipe is simple.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Bear catching the end zone, get the ball in the
thirty have go twenty yards, kick a field goal. Every time,
and then they'll wind up being twenty one plus. No
matter what, no matter what, we have way expect.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Our defense to show up. I'm telling you they're going
to show up in this game.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
They're going to show up. We'll see. There's a lot
of will see's right now. I hope everybody enjoyed. Like
I said, if you're enjoying this content, the Jersey Boys podcast.
Next week on Tuesday, we will be going with Jesse Holly.
If you guys can't make it, I understand, I'll go
with them.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
We're gonna get some content out for the for the Eagles,
Cowboys and the season. So we're gonna get that done.
Subscribe like all that fun shit and uh until next time.
For Dave Stercio and of course the Grinch America's fan
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next time.
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