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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Cowboys Nation, Good afternoon, good evening, good morning whenever you're
listening to this hot garbage of a podcast. Because we
have a shitty football team. It is Dave start Hill,
it is naturally no comedian Brett Ernst, and of course
the Grinch, the most accurate predictor of all time, The
Grinch America's fan, Keith.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Keith, how are we doing? Bro?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I mean, look, man, look the Cowboys get embarrassed in Carolina.
I don't care how the school. The score doesn't dictate
how bad we played. It's it's it's showing our ass,
is what it's. It's showing that we do have a
higher powered offense, and it looks like it's going to
be led by Dak the entire time, no matter who's
in there. George Pickens is an incredible wide receiver, one
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wide receiver two on this team. Whoever whichever you way
you want to put him on the depth chart. He's
probably better performing than what I've seen in recent years.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
But that don't matter because we've got no defense.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Keith, So, off the rip, how are you feeling about
this team? It is Tuesday, October the fourteenth, and ibra
Flus still has a job, so that's not going to change.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So what's going to change about this team? Keith? So?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I looked up e Barflis his defenses?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
How great were they?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Here's the thing I didn't even know because I just
automatically assumed, since he was a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Before he was a head coach, that you would think.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
He dominated like Quinn or Zimmer Did you know to
get or Wade Phillips to get a job as a
head coach based.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
On a defensive coordner.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I don't think he ever had a top ten defense,
which I found strange. I meant, his best year was
twenty eighteen against with the Colts when he was defensive
coordinat and he actually shut us out that game. He
shout a shout that season. I remembers like twenty two
to nothing or something something weird y. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
But I meant so I don't. I don't know if
he's like, I have never seen it so bad before,
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like this, like it's I mean, now, let me rephrase
that I have seen it this bad. Like last year
against the Saints, it was awful, it was, but not
consistent like.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
This, only awful.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, this is consistently awful. Even last week, which I
pointed out with the Jets game. They the Jets were
shooting themselves in the foot and Justin Fields was just
overthrowing people. That game could have been ugly too, so
I meant not ugly, but close the Jets.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The Jets are pretty bad. So they are they are.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I mean, we just saw how bad. But that's my
point though, that meant they even watching him last week.
They there's a there's one with Justin Field's there's a
shot at Justin Field's backing up, there's like four receivers
coming across. He's not dude, He's just holding on to
the ball and he gets hit right after rev They're
just not a very good team. The basear defense off
of that, but consistently bad. I have not seen this
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defense consistently consistently bad. Maybe maybe No One's defense in
twenty twenty but that was why.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, I brought that up on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I said, I haven't seen I don't think i've seen
the defense as bad, and I've watched the twenty twenty Cowboys,
so like I compared it to it, but I think
it's worse.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Brett.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I put a Paul on Twitter just to see the
pulse of the people, and about one hundred people responded
within like five minutes, and I said, is it ebra
Flus or is it the talent on the team? Fifty
two percent, which is very close to being half dead?
Even fifty two percent of the people came back and said,
this is a Fluse problem.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
What do you think it is?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
As you're watching this game unravel and not being able
to stop anything, you.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Should have switched questions. You should ask Keith this question
because actually got the other one. All right, well, let
me give you my opinion on the defense and then
give him this question because he brought this point up.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Sure I know his answer, I'm.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Going to echo it, but I'll just let him give it.
This is the worst Cowboys defense I've ever seen ever. Now,
we said last week, right out the gate, we knew
it was the Jets. Okay, but there was a little
bit of hope in the way the defense was communicating.
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We were seeing some good things, and all I was
hoping for was improvement on that this week, just the opposite.
I meant, I have never seen receivers so fucking open
like that. I mean, dude, we are thirty second in
total defense in the league, thirty second in passing. I
mean two hundred and sixty nine yards. Teams are passing
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against this fifteen fucking touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And look at the quarterback and look at the quarterbacks
doing it is even worse.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's crazy rushing. We're twenty ninth. The worst is in
third downs where fifty three point two percent the teams
have converted. We can't stop anything. And I have my
theories on it, but it's it is hands down the
worst Cowboys defense even the year. When when Keith talked
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about the Saints the week before that, we had a
glimpse we were turning, you know, getting turnovers and scoring.
You're like, okay, we had a bad game. Consistently fucking four.
Carolina put up four hundred and ten yards. They beat
us in yards and time of possession. That's insane. And
they were scoring quick and they still beat us in
time of possession. But it's just a shitty defense. And
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it's a tail of two cities. I mean, as good
as our offense is and as great as Dak is playing,
it just seems the Cowboys can never get on the
same fucking page with the offense and the defense, but
the defense is trash. So give Keith this question, because
he's been saying this favor.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, So who is it?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Is it a fluse problem or a personnel problem?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I I pushed how dumb the players were, and you know,
and how they're always out of position and all those
kind of things, And I texted you what Rex Ryan said,
who echoed what I said, but he called them dumbsday
defense because of them not knowing where to be schematically
or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
They're just all over the place.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
But I've since kind of changed my opinion a little bit.
And when I say that is I can't And I
know now now I'm like a conspiracy theorist, right go ahead,
all right, And I talk about this all the time,
like how tight locker rooms are in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Super tight.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I mean, you're talking about fucking We're not the alpha
males that don't fucking gossip. You know, they're not a
bunch of chicks in there, they're just fuck you know,
is tight lip? Nobody knows? You get what I'm saying.
There might be because I don't think a defense would
play this bad, because not only are they playing bad,
they don't even look upset afterwards. Sometimes it's like Damian
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Wilson gets beat and he just trots off the field
last week, Donovan, Sorry, so I meant you know, it's
like it's Damian Wilson went on the Winter super Bowl
without us look ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
With the Chiefs, right, Cheeves?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Right, Yeah, But I meant, you know. My whole thing
is like, are they do they not like this guy? Like,
is there's something there where? Maybe they just don't want
to fucking play for it? Why I'm finisher because the
thing that bothers me too is which is a bitch
made move? By the way, if they aren't doing that,
I'm not in favor of that either. But I don't
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know what the mentality is. I don't know what they're saying.
I know how they want to play Man so bad.
And I heard somebody come out I think it was
Nick Eatman actually going, well, we need to just go man,
because they're not good at zone. And I'm like, wait,
these fucking corners are getting paid twenty something million dollars
a season. What do you mean they're not good at zone?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Who fuck the fuck does that even mean?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I mean, he has a point to to play to
a player's strengths, right if if somebody.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Likes five million, if you're just a good man.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We're not bankers or the gms, and we can't control what.
I get your point.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But yeah, but that's what But that's what I'm saying.
But yeah, fine, go to do whatever we gotta do
to win. But what I'm saying is that if you're
if Trayvon is coming out and he even said it that, yeah,
I'm a better man guy, kind of didn't he He
said something like this, said yeah yeah, and he's like,
I'm a better man than the zone I'm not really
good at. It's like he didn't say he wasn't good
at zone, but he's indicating that he's a better at man.
It's like, motherfucker didn't know. That's not what corners are
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in the NFL. It's just not well.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So you guys both know you played defense, right, you
guys both know that man is easier to play if
the skill set itself would be all right, there's your guy,
go call it right, that's man coverage, right, You're you
gotta lock onto your man. The zone makes you think,
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It makes you have to know where you're at. You
said it the the dumbsday defense, as Rex Ryan to say,
these guys are clearly it doesn't matter how dumb down
this defense gets, because they've dumbed it down according to
according to ebra Flus and according to the guys, you've
got one word checks now and one worth this and
one worth that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like if that's too difficult for this defense.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Then there's something terribly wrong with the education of the
defensive players.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's one thing to say, like Doron Blant set a
record for most pick six is in a season, right,
guess what nine times out of ten he was playing
man on those things, all right, But Trayvon Diggs is
also excelled in a dan.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Quick We've seen them matchup man this year so far
and they've both been getting beat too.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
That's that's a fair point as well.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
So I Meat greg Olsen called that there was like
third and nine or something, and and he was noticing
how Trayvon was giving him a cushion.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well that was the game breaker. That was that was
that was bland and that was his zone call.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, no, there was another one there was where he Yeah,
I don't know. I mean I think it's now a
combination of both. I mean, because like he brought up
about iber Flus has never had a good I don't
know why Jones is even I don't even know the hiring,
the thought process, but behind the firing and the hiring,
because look look what Dan Quinn did the next year.
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He goes to the goddamn Redskins. They go to the
NFC Championship game. So, uh, it's got to be something internal.
And I just I know you're just saying it's a conspiracy.
I don't think players are tanking. I mean they can't
afford to. It's it's a week to week league. I mean,
they want to check, they want they want.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
To make it. He didn't say tanking per se.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He's just basically saying, like, if you what he meant,
But it's like a middle school mentality, like here are
the rules of the game, and if you don't like
the rules, don't play.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Then I'm not playing well what I mean, like a
lot of them have already gotten paid.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, but I don't think they're doing that. I just
think it's it's it's it just looks like nobody knows
what they're doing. And I was watching Sam Williams on
a couple of play where he took himself out of position,
he was losing containment, just going out of uh, you know,
it just seems like a lot one said that, Bro, hey, bro,
do you know how many do you know how many
plays I think Sam Williams played?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
He played?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I read it, and this is a complaint they had too,
not them, but the media, the Dallas media.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
He played like.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Almost thirty something snaps I thought over James Washington, who
only played like eleven James in Houston. Sorry, yeah, I
keep bringing up the whole cap.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I know, right, we're just stuck where the glory days were.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, James Houston. I mean, James Houston's been dominating. Why
isn't he in there more than like that?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
It just looks like a bunch of people running around
not knowing what's going on. I mean, and it's not
it's just consistently getting beat. I mean, now I could
see if like, look, these are superior athletes, you're gonna
get beat. I mean, you're not gonna win every down.
I mean, you know these guys are are pros. But
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being out of position, I mean, the three plays in
a row, the receiver is just wide open. There was
no over the top help. I don't even know what
coverage they were in.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it's it's hard to attack, you know what, Brett,
I don't think they know what coverage.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I have never seen this, and I don't know what
I mean, we don't know. We're not on the team.
We're not in films, we're not in meetings, we're not
in the locker room. We're not superior athletes.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
They must be sleeping in these meetings, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Right but before before this weekend, which fucking which is
even more astonishing, right is, Bryce Young was literally the
worst rated quarterback in the NFL, even behind field, even
even underfields.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Really, yes, he was, Even with all these wins that
he had.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Out of the starting quarterbacks, he was the worst rated
quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not only that he could not anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Not only that, I meant, bro, we've given up. I
don't know how many we given up, I forgot the
number of plus fifty yard pass plays and it's the set.
The person second to us isn't even close.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, see, you know you always use guys both wore
specifically you.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Bryce, he had one hundred and fourteen point eight quarterback right.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
So fucking perfect, literally perfect. I know, Uh, you know, Keith,
you always harp on that Saints game right last year,
how we got ran out of town right of our
own stadium, and then the Saints wound up being like
dog shit, which is even more maddening.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's the same way I feel about Russell Wilson right now.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know, Russell Wilson lights our secondary up like the
fourth of July, and the guy gets benched for a
rookie in the following week and we may never see
Russell Wilson again.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Did you see the footage of that of him going
back in the game and uh and uh Stable going
nuts to get dark?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I saw I saw the h what's that? Oh? Uh?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh, what's the fucking varsity Blues? Where he's like, uh,
can he play? Yeah, well he's got multiple no can
he play? Jackson Dart's bell was wrung. He couldn't see straight.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
He's like, get his fucking hands back of the fucking.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Because Russell Wilson spikes went into the earth try and
it's like four, it's like third and nine. He throws
one four yards into the dirt and.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
It's like, what the fuck is that? But it's it's
getting alarming.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Like like I said, I was just hoping for something
to see us improve a little, to give us hope.
And now, of course, all the teams that needed to
lose loss this weekend, sure right, I mean mathematically again,
other than the division winners of the Packers in the Bucks,
everybody has two or three losses.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, you should have seen. That's that's a tweet that
got well received.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Last night when the finished off the Commanders, I said,
believe it or not. Guys, you know the two three
and one Cowboys are half a game behind the Redskins
right now, and people are like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I called you last night.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You didn't see my call. I called your text because
you were like he texted.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I was like, on that you put I don't remember, dude,
I know, but this is the best part.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's not that you said you put where'd you put
you put? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Half now half game behind them. Now now it's not
half game behind them. Now, it's half game behind them.
Like em now like, ah, we're coming, are we going?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Bro? Now? No, this is the crazy part. Dallas has
the talent, do they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Where besides offense on defense?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
We've seen what Digs can do, We've seen what Blank
can do. We have the talent, but we're just not
messed not.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm just not seeing I'm on this one. I'm just
not seeing it. Brat.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean, look, look, man, we know, like I just
mentioned before, the Ron Bland set in records, Trayvon Diggs
was a shutdown, lockdown corner a couple of years back.
Maybe just maybe that the system or maybe they just lacking.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
They got injured too, right, so they've they both got
in they since they've gotten injured. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But Bro, did you see that play starch where I
couldn't fucking believe it? And I meant where it was
a run play with Rico Daddle? I believe it was
Doubt or or someone else whoever it was.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Which seven yard game was that?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
But but no, where the Diggs comes up and he
follows the receiver instead of coming up and hitting. Uh,
you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know exactly what you're talking about because I look
at my father, I'm like, what is Diggs doing?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Because he tried to make it like, oh I didn't
see the running back like bitch, you know you saw him.
You just didn't want to tackle him.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Dude, I've seen that way too. I've said it was
so repair in this way.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'm gonna find it in the condensed version uploaded to
you guys.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And you know what, the people, the people got to
stop making excuses for guys like Trayvon Diggs, Like, yeah, man, yeah, listen,
is he the same player he was a couple of
years ago. Absolutely not right, But now you're seeing it
in living color. You are literally watching him in real
time get lost like they gets lost.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
But I'm talking about this one play where I know
exactly I was scared and if he came up and
made that hit, that's a two yard loss, right he
purposely It was almost like the running back was the quarterback,
bro and like he could have threw to the to
the receiver or whatever it was. It was so bad.
It was so badable.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
We need to get Stefan Gilmore. We need to get
somebody else. We got to pick somebody up there.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's like somebody, it's like a like somebody with a
demon in them. It's like he's just like, there's no
there's no fix for this, because I that's what.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So Jerry Jones storms off. Right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We don't get any words from Jerry Jones after the game,
thank god. Right, But typically a lot of people call
me out new road games. I'm like, yeah, well he
talked against the Jets. Shut the fuck up, you know
what I mean. So, I know he talks on road games,
but I will say that he keeps harping on this.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
We're getting healthier, We're getting guys back.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know, Like we're talking about Revel who's never
seen an NFL snap before.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
He's another cornerback.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
They're like he's injured and he's got it and we
don't know what.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Right, So he's coming off injury and then and then,
and I've seen this a lot. Jesse Holly actually echoed it,
saying like maybe we just tell Overshan, hey man, just
take the year off like red shirt this shit and
get back one thousand percent healthy for next year.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
What is the.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What listen if they rip off a couple wins in
a row somehow, then you're gonna say, okay, let's get
the reinforcements back. You never know, but if they go
out there and lose to Washington and then they got
Denver after that, and then they got shitty ass in
Arizona after that. So it's like, all these teams that
are coming in, if we lose these games, what is
the actual point in rushing back some of the premier
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guys that we might have on this roster, like at
to Mario and Overshaw, Like, I don't think there's a
point to it.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I would agree with that too. Get some young guys
in there, let them get experience.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Because if you listen, if you're harping on this Green
Bay first pick, that's gonna be in the late twenties,
early thirties, So you might want to make sure that
if you're gonna trade any first round pick at any point,
trade theirs, because ours is going to be pretty goddamn
good thing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I mean, here's my point too, it's like just backing
off of the defensive players, right, Like, I mean, I
would be okay now, and I said this before, I
would be completely okay with them getting rid of a barfloss.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I would, well, I like saying barf.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Because you know, but here's the thing, when's the last time.
I mean, how hard has it been for this Cowboys
team to make a mid season.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Just since Wade Phillips. We know that.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
But but my whole point is, my whole point is
is that I just whatever it can still happen. And
if if I just, I think that's our only way
to salvage the season right now, because something is wrong
with the way.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Guy now, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I mean, something's wrong. Something's going that I can't put
my finger on.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Can you remember off the top of your head how
good the defense was in twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Our defense? Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
It was.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's when we did.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
That's when we lost to the Rams right in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That correct, which we got ran out of.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Right, So we beat the undefeated.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Saints by defense, right.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So here here's my theory on that one. And this
is what Dak Prescott said in post. They're asking him
about is this a lost season? If with a big
loss like this, He's like, it's way too early. He goes,
I remember being on a team that was three and
five and we made the playoffs, right, So like he's
referring to that twenty eighteen team and I remember that
run specifically. I was like, man, the Amari Cooper came
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on right. Amari Cooper was traded for that year. So
it did take a splash trade to get the offense going,
and all of a sudden we were competitive. I don't
know if there's a splash trade in the works. Jerry
Jones has said there's not as far as the defense,
because you know, we talk about guys like Alvin Kamara
and shit, and it'll be good to have a guy
behind Gavanti Williams who was also limited to like thirty
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yards the other day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
So it's like, yeah, that was at his fault, bro,
they were stacking.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It's a frequent amazing. We haven't talked about the offense.
Dak did such a good job because they were like
beat us to Dak pretty much, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean, look, had he not had they not
led him? Like what I say, middle of the game,
I said, whoever has ball ass wins and the Carolina
and one.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
That Dak had a seventy three point five percent completion
rate and one hundred and twenty four point eight passer rate.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The complaint I have, he's wasting, wasting him the only
complaint I have on the offense. And I know this
sounds crazy. All right, we got a three and out
finally in the fourth corner they went back to us.
By no means, is this game the offense's fault? Not
at all, But it kind of is, because when I
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say that is we went three and out and gave
it right back to him, and then they had the
seven minute drive to kick a field goal.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Now do you remember that? Do you remember the plays
that they were?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
That was another Yeah, we had negative eight yards in
three downs. So I meant that little drive, that one
fucking drive. Like I said, it's not the offense's fault.
But I think Dak knows this too. They could not
give the ball right back to Carolina and have them
bro they put a seven minute drive together to kick
a field goal seven fucking minutes. All right, let's talk
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about that last drive. Remember it was third and three
and even gotta whatever. Elm got a pass interference which
was suspect. Sure, yes it was suspect.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But we got one earlier too that was suspect. So
it's fine.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But then they had fourth and three and they went
for it, Carolina, that's the one you were talking about
Stirch and Britt where Olsen was like, why is.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He back ten yards?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was an easy slamt for the first out. Bro,
they went oppressed. You got you got the least accurate quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
In the NFL. You're gonna make him throw in a window.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You're giving them all this fucking space for.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Fourth and three and I and that right there, I
would really like, and I don't know if we're ever
going to get the real answer, because nobody's gonna throw anybody.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Under the bus. But is that Ibra flu is calling zone?
Say give? Or is that hey you got it? Listen.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I know we're running zone, but you gotta be like
five yards instead of eight?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
According to Eatman, I think I read the article that
that is their defense.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
To see that's unacceptable. It is that today, like, I
don't know who would who.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Would we get? Who could we get mid season to
be a defensive coordinator at this No, you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Don't, you don't, you don't you go internal.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You would go either the secondary coach, linebacker, coach, somebody
like that.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So so out of all the defensive coaches, most of
them came with with.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Uh uh whatever bears.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
The only one is this one. Dude, there's a defensive line.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Coach the assro what's that he's got intensity out the ass.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, he's he's twelve years. He has experienced twelve years.
That's the only guy can see if because what are
you gonna do.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Hire his uh, the guys under him. He's gonna run
the same fucking defense.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
It's like firing you and tell him Brett to do it. Yeah, exactly,
it doesn't you know, we have to sit you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I mean it doesn't so I don't know that would
be the But then you have to find all those
other positions.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
We listen, Jerry Jones dropped the old, the age old
Foxhole line today. He's like, that's the coach I owned
Foxhole with me. He's talking about Abra blues. So he
ain't going nowhere. So now it's a matter of do
we have the talent, which he swears the christ we do.
Brian Shotneimer, same thing he's doing and he this is
the first press conference, and I'm you know me I'm
a shoddy guy already, right, I've drank the kool aid
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for shoddy. This is the first press conference where I said,
you fucking puppet like you literally said the same kind
of shit that a Garrett would say, that a Wade
Phillips would say that a fucking Chang Gaily would say.
When when when it comes to real hard questions, He's like,
love Fluce, great, coach, Great, he knows the game.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I do. Because I'm not saying Schottenheimer is not going
to come out You're.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Not gonna come out in search like there's gonna be
a there are going to be changed. He kind of
hinted a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
He said that we have the personnel, they're just not
in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
A k. That's your fucking zone.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
But that's actually a good Instead of saying, I mean,
you can't come out and bash I.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Understand that, I get it. I can't, man, I know,
because that will ruin the team.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
We don't have any like blitz packages.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I was definitely gonna touch on that because once again,
and I always refer back to whatever Jerry says, because
he swears to Christ that he you know, everything he
says is gospel. He keeps going back to the Michael
Parsons trade, obviously, because the guy will not shut the
hell up about it.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Right, He's gonna say, like, defensive pass rushes our deepest position.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
We have so many good players that can rush the passer,
and this is the depth that we had. Because you
need all that explosive blows and all this other shit.
The Cowboys have not except for the jet game, which
again now looks like an anomaly. They can't get home
with four. I don't care who the fuck they're lining up,
a defensive end or defensive tackle, they can't get home
with four. So if you want to start doing some
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blitz packages, now we're talking, because if you can't send
guys like Maurice out there, or or Canine or a
fucking or or even when whoever, doesn't matter who it is, right,
it could be uh Shamar James, Right, you're not You're
not sending anybody. So every time Bryce Sung dropped back
the pass on Sunday, it was the cleanest of all pockets.
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And every time there was like we were about a
fraction of an inch away from the guy he got
rid of the ball, right, So it was like we
can't get home with four Brett, And that is exactly
what I was thinking. I was like, why don't we said,
if we can't cover him anyway, you might as well
send the house.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I would, I would start playing more. I mean, is
arak who's been playing great? I think he's been he's
playing better.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Head a shitting in a little bit of a shitt
of your game.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
But you in in there more, keep Layafu in there,
just get these guys that are flying around, and yeah,
we're gonna have to change. We're gonna have to change
our base defense, man. I mean, this zone shit ain't working.
Four hundred and eleven yards offenses averaging six games against us.
That's fucking insane.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So you know the one thing I would change in touchdowns, yeah, broll.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The one thing I would change.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
The biggest change I'd make right now is Trayvon Diggs
only in on third and longs.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Or only in man coverage or something.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
No third and longs because he can't fucking come up
and tackle a running back.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't want him.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I I just want him in there if it's second
and three or third and five. I mean, he's not
he is not that player to come up.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
No, what you're saying is he's just he's he's a
timid cornerback when it comes to coming out and playing
the run.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah, he's avoiding it. And it's you know, I mean,
look if he's hurt, take yourself out, man.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yeah he might be tender too.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Man who knows any game.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Well, that's the thing that and we got to stop
making excuses for these guys that they claim are the guys.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
That they need.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Both all coaches have gone on records saying we have
the personnel, we have the players.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
No the fuck you don't. You don't. You're not You're
not even close.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
To having the players in the secondary anymore. And look,
I understand certain guys will provide a spark. When you
got James in there making fifteen tackles, people are like, ooh,
that's nice. Guess what next game comes out? Does nothing?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Nada?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Right, And then you get jan Ye Thomas in there
from Elie Hooker, a little bit of a spark, little youth,
a little bit more speed.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
He doesn't do shit.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So it's like you're looking at these guys and you're like,
you're getting excited or I'm getting excited as a fan,
or the fan base in general gets excited about these
new fresh faces. Like you guys always harp on bringing
the young guys, Let's see what they got, Let's see
what we got by you know, defensive tackle number three
and four and defensive end number six and fucking cornerback
number four. Right, all these guys that we think we
should see rightfully so because of the rest of the
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guys aren't doing shit. But like when you bring in
these these young, hungry guys, they're getting worked too. So
we don't have the personnel. But I want to say,
I'll say this on record to me, if you have
guys that have literally been vocal and I'm talking about
Trayvon Diggs I'm talking about I'm talking about the fact
that these guys excelled in a dan Quinn man system.
And I'm not talking about the last game against Green
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Bay when we got fucking worked.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Right, that man either didn't he go zone in that
he went zone, which is like, oh, why is he
doing that? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
So, now I'm looking at this team and I'm like,
if these guys are literally being vocal with you and saying, like,
you know, I think I'm a little bit better a man,
then you.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Have to play to their strengths. I don't give you
can't be ignorant.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
But here's the problem with man coverage is if you
don't have a pass rush, it's I mean we're getting
beat anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Correct, no, correct, I get it. But when you do
man Brett, you have the ability to send that fifth
guy sometimes because you have the safeties behind you and
they can come up and play.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I mean again, you got to you got to be
getting to the quarterback. You can't man man is I
mean you know if look, well, zone isn't working.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
So why not, right, what's the worst that's going to
happen if we just get in there?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Who loves that he's a ball hawky, he's around the
ball all the time. Throw him in as a rusher.
I mean, who knows?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, I mean to me, and to be honest with
you guys, segueing, look, the game's over. We lost to
the Panthers. Rico Daldo had his revenge game. I thought
he was gonna have a de Marco Murray game and
he he he ran DeMarco Murray out of town about
literally one hundred times, one hundred times over.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
What DeMarco Murray did you understand that.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Six yards of carry one hundred and eighty six yards
and he had fifty six yards.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Receiving, just so you know.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And I saw the stat yesterday or this morning, and
we Cowboys, the Cowboys are official. Yeah, well we didn't.
We left our seat belts way off. I will say this,
and I saw this stat today. The Cowboys are giving
up six yards of carry for the season.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not just Rico now, it's that's the average.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We've got up six yards of carry, meaning every second
down is second four or less. Like these are things
that that's the kind of shit you gotta adjust. If
you bring that down to four, if you bring that
average down to four yards of carry, you're in better
third down situations going forward, and maybe you can get
the fuck off the field. But right now you can't.
There's nothing working for this defense right now.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
There was one there was one play. I don't know
if it was Solomon Thomas, I forgot who, but I
mean just somebody just got blown.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
We're getting blown off the line every time.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
There's not even a stalemate. It's just back on skates.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And we we we healthy scratch Masie again. And I understand,
like if that experiment is over and you realize he
can't play. Get rid of them, right, Stop, swallow your
goddamn pride, and get rid of these first round picks
that are you know, that are bus you?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You've completely flubbed that pick.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Get rid of them. Move on right, It's okay, right again.
These guys, these Jones boys, are so full of pride
and stupidity and ignorance that they don't understand when they
have a wrong move. They made the move the other
couple of years ago with fucking ball Man Fat Remember
Kelvin Joseph. We realized he was a second round pick
and he sucked. They let him go and that was
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the end of it. Nobody ever heard of him again.
I don't even know if he's in the fucking league anymore,
or if he's rapping.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
What I will say is they've done it before. And
if you want to salvage the season, if you want
to give any hope for these Cowboys fans out here
like us, like everybody else, you gotta make a move
right now. And even if that move is saying, hey,
we're going man with the personnel we have, and if
we want to go man against the Redskins coming up
and Jaden Daniels picks us apart in man coverage, then
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you have a personnel problem.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
I want to bring up Togo Charlton and we did
it with too, which was a first round pick and
Michigan player.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So yeah, well it just seems like it just seems
like they have a hard time separating themselves from ooh
we miss this one, you know, like I think it's
a big thing for the Cowboys that they're like there.
I mean, think about it, guys, we always hold on
to all these fucking draft picks like as if they're
gonna be something you know you're getting.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Look at one we got rid of, which is fucking
garbage because he's he's playing great. Is Malie Collins again,
so the brown He's on the Browns defensive line. He's
one of their bright spots.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Absolutely, And I know I actually I'm friends now with
Sam Kamara on the defensive line over there.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
He loves the guy, loves the guy.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
You think it is. I mean it could be the
Joneses as far as like play talent assessment.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Maybe they're Will McLay.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
You know they're they're they're not.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, Keith and Brett, You're very right and very accurate
on that about Keith. And I said this on Twitter
the other day. I got met with a lot of backlash, right,
But like I'm thinking, like in the last five years,
let's just go back five years. And I don't know
these off the top of your head, but what you're
thinking is you're smoking. You hit on Micah, Right, you
hit a slam dunk on Ceedee Lamb when he fell
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to you at seventeen. Right, there are draft picks that
were like, you know what, damn good fuck pick, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Like, but there's there's only a few, right, Okay, maybe
we could do this. Maybe his weak spot is defensive
line because we have not draft I don't know the
last awesome defensive lineman we've ever draft.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
We've drafted a good offense Marcus Ware. But he was that. Yeah,
but he's also a Micah. Okay, so he was like
an edge hybrid, like the type you know we drafted
we drafted Jay Ratliffe back in like he was good.
He was good. Yeah, that's what he was at draft pick.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But again, now we're going back to fucking me and
I mean, you know, you know, right, right, Now, it's
like when Mazzi. When Mazzi gets fucking benched, you got
the fan base going all right, Ja toa season, Jay
toa or the guy. I'm like, he's a seventh round
draft pick. Why are we getting excited about this ship.
I don't understand if if the seventh rounder is better
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than your first rounder, the math ain't math and get
rid of somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Bro. I'm okay though, And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I get what you're saying there, but I'm okay with
putting a young, hungry guy in there.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Always hungry. I'm curious, bro.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
No, I mean you got you got to because you
don't know what you have until you're in a game.
Time to sit right until you're in the game, and
kids develop quicker, some guys, there's always those gems that
you find.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
You know what the first rounder Mazzie Smith is. That's
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
He's he checked out already.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
We don't know what this even if he Here's the
thing you're misunderstanding me. I'm just saying when you put
him in for one game, I'm not saying the next
game he's gonna be great. I'm saying, when you put
that when you put a player that wants to play
in the NFL for the first time in a fucking game,
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Perfect example of that is Sanborn goes down, Shamar James
comes in, has fifteen fucking tackles. Everybody's like, kid can
ball kids a hawk, blah blah blah. Now he gets
to start the next game and they average six yards
of carry.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
And I understand that you get knocked out Shamar James. No, yeah,
I thought he had a concussion or something. No, no,
this he might have got rattled, but he was in because.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Remember he shook his head and then they said, we
got protocol.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Protocol came back in yet.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
But the everything is really starts in the in the
in the front, right, so you have your second level,
which is your linebackers, and then you have your secondary.
If your upfront guys aren't getting penetration or if they're
getting pushedback on skates, right like that one play that
that when they showed Samborn following he was doing he
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was supposed to do following the pull, but yet that
hole was wide open because our defensive lineman got blown out.
You you know, if you're if your front is not
doing their job. Not the edges, it's the interior.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And we're talking, we're talking, we're talking to Clark, We're
talking to this guy's got to be better.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
But if that's not happening, then it affects the linebackers,
that affects the sectionary, you know. And and again we
can't put our finger on it. But talking about a
tail of two cities, I mean our offense.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
On the other hand, but I mean, but the number one.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
In the league with yards per game and touchdowns passing
were number two. I mean, we have three hundred and
eighty seven point five yards a game.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Which was our which was our bugaboo for a little while,
is when when certain guys went down, we weren't able
to weather that. We lost CD lamb and we're like ooh.
And then George Pickens is showing us who the funk
he is. And then on top of that, against the Jets,
we had four offensive linemen out and didn't miss a beat.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Our our offense is firing on all coming.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They're fucking humming.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
We're number eleven in the red zone, by the way,
which never is the case, never is the case.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Brandon Aubrey has been bored.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
And wait, here's another one. We're number seven. We're actually
tied with the Bears for third down conversions, which was
very rare. I mean, we're we're at forty conversion.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Our third down conversion rate on on de has to
be thirty second.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You would assume, yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Third I'll tell you exactly, pass to Our third down
on defense is thirty second.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
They can't get off. The goddamn has a.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Fifty three percent success for eight on third down against it.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Listen, you know what could happen here, which would be
fucking crazy and sick. Can you imagine if our offense
doesn't show up one game and I'm talking about three
and out, three and out and they keep kicking back
to these off bro, we could lose like fifty something
to nothing or sixty something to three or something.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It could be fucking bad.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
People's predictions online about the Redskins is that if they
have a shot to win, they got to win seventy
five to seventy four.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You know what I mean, Like other way, if you
can figure out this defensive problem, if we could get
this problem fixed, go the other way with it.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
So no, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Here's the thing that's what this shows about what we're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
And Brett, and Brett, what I'm saying to you, and
I said this about to see, but I was in
my mind were thirty second in total defense right now,
right if the Cowboys can get to like seventeen eighteen,
they could be such a better football team than what
we're seeing right now.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
And that's that's.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Still like back in the middle of the back back then,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The crazy part is if you're watching these other games,
there's no real juggernaut other than I mean, Tampa Bay's
playing great. But we looked at the Eagles, we see
that they're not as good.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
They're flawed. They're very flawed, very flawed.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
San Francisco somehow has just been pulling miracles.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I mean, they were decimating with a different flaw though.
Man it's not like ours, right, So like that's how they.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Are also something that we've seen in the past with
other teams, right, not as bad as this defense, but
if you can find see that was what I was
saying earlier. We do have talent. We've seen the talent succeed.
Now we don't know if it's because they're injured, right
but if you can get firing on all cylinders, we
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can win games with our offense alone if our defense
just improves.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
That's what I just said. If there's seven teeth.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Total defense game, if you if you look at last week,
and I'll bring this up again, you know, the first
three and out goes back to us and then we
go three and out minus eight yards. What dictates the
game and what dictates the drive?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
You know what I'm saying. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, Like like, like, what why were those Why were
those play calls so bad? When we got the ball back?
Why should we just continue.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
What we were doing before? I want to do it.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I want to cape up for Schottenheimer on those because
I can't imagine in any walk of life the guys
in the headset with Dak saying we're gonna throw screen. Okay,
that screen there, We're gonna throw another screen. That on
to me, that's Dak Prescott seeing nothing checking it down,
and that check down I think it was on Dak
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a little more. And you know me, I'm a deck
you know, I'm the biggest apologist for Dak.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I mean, maybe we'll.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Play the head clo, but in that moment where he
knows can't funk up here, can't fuck up if there's
if the if the one read over here, If Pickens
is glued up and Ferd can't get down the seam,
I gotta act fast.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
I'll check it down to Gravanta. He's good for a
couple of yards. The problem is they sniffed that ship
out so easily.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Dude, can you it wasn't a design screen, because then
you would have saw the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Around might be disguising the coverages. I mean, you know,
is not that bad?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
You know what though, Man I meant thinking about it,
it's like we all know. I mean, I think out
of the two, I think Seedy Lamb is an excellent receiver,
but I think George Pickens is a better receiver. Okay,
because he's, like Brett said, the body. That's what a
receiver is. Michael Lody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
But who the fuck are they gonna double team? They won't.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I mean, that's insane because CD's route runnings, it's sick,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
If you move CD to the slot's gonna Pickin's.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Rout running isn't that great? But it doesn't matter. If
he's one on one, he's gonna win that fucking ball.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Man. And then don't don't think, don't mistake FLORINOI either, man,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Of course, of course, And we haven't had we haven't
had the weapon of turpin in the last two weeks either.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Well, you know, the best way I described Dallas right
now is we're like a guy that makes a million
dollars a year, but we have a wife that spends
one point eight million a year. Right And if that makes.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Sense, because it's like, yeah, oh you're a millionaire, I was.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Our offense fucking it can move the ball. I mean again, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
We had the three and a half, but I'll bet you,
I bet you any amount of money that wife sucks dick, Like.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
This is not this is not a kid's show, by
the way, in case anybody's wondering. But sorry, like I said,
if we can click that up, we can at least.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Fix the the problem. Like I said, twenty five percent,
we're still competitive with most of the teams in the NFC,
right the NFL, I mean, the ults are playing lights out,
I think.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I mean, look, there's there's teams that are like bro
now for nothing, Atlanta looked fucking really good last night
against Buffalo Offensively, defensively, they looked like they were also
clicking and firing on all similars. So this is gonna
be one of those years where a lot of teams
are going to look really good and a lot of
teams are gonna suck, and then there's gonna be in
the middle of the pack.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Where does Dallas fall right now?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
They don't even know, they don't even know where they're at.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
Ever, this problem is okay, we now are are above
middle of the pack. That's what's crazy. The offense is
so good if the defense even makes four stops a game, right,
just four, like like on that drive that that was
nine minute drive. If you if you stop them there,
get us back on the field, were winning the game,
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especially with Aubrey.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
You know, and that was the risk, you know, Like,
there's not one offense besides the Jets that we can
stop from getting four hundred yards, not one, not fucking one.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Kyler Murray's gonna fucking abuse us when he what do
you mean, Ah, he's done it two times.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
High, he's done it. I know he's done it. But
he's got, he's also gotten worse. I don't care, bro.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
If fucking Bryce and Young did it to us, can
you imagine what these other You know.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
You're not seeing the caliber of quarterbacks these guys are playing,
all right, they're playing Bryce Young, they're playing Russell Wilson,
all right, they're playing fucking Jalen Hurts, who also look
forgot how to throw the football.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
What's crazy to me is we always have those games
where these running backs just come out and light us up,
and now it's quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
We got a special one. It was both. It was
what do really want to do? I'm serious.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
If they want to pass, they want to run, just
fucking pick pick your poison, do whatever you want to
do to us.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Dan shops right now waiting to escape. Who is Dan Quinn?
He's like these guys.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Remember this name, bro, He's a seventh round running back
from the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Bill Merritt.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Bill Merritt, Remember that name.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
You don't have to remember it.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I know it already, and guess what, he's gonna know
it and everybody in the stadium.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
You know that fucking name because this guy is a run.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
That he changed his first name mid season.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
How about that he's so good he changed his whole
fucking name mid season.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
They need to.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Honestly, there's no there's no ifans and butts about it
and starts.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
You're exactly right and you love hearing that started.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Fucking box and go, man, that's it. Take your chances.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
We're done. We're done with everything else.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
That's our only fucking option because they will run down
our goddamn throats, stack the box, blitz people. Hopefully we
can get Jayden Daniels up. That's the only way we
have a shot against Washington, if only.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
We had an edge rusher that can track down Jaden Dangers.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
No, I'm not b we have no sacks last week.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I know we got we got, we got, we got that.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I'm done. I'm done. It doesn't matter. We had them
last year and we still couldn't fucking do it.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
All right, So look segue to the Redskins mentioned Bill Cross.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Doing stick again and just make that point exactly. Hey,
we don't we need improvement, obviously, but if we just
it doesn't have to be much to still be competitive.
I mean, our defense right now again, you're you're talking
about the two extremes. You're going from a number one
offense to a thirty two defense if we can even
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get them to twenty or seventeen. Look, but you know
it's crazy to beat most teams in the fucking NFL.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Right, look at the record, bro, we beat all teams.
But look at the record. We're time. Let's just pretend
we should have fucking won that game.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Right, you're number one in offense, your number thirty two
in defense. You should be a five hundred team and
we are a five hundred team.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
We're one game. Let's do it because we died. Dude.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
What was that stat with Dak that they threw up
eleven touchdowns, zero interceptions.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Eleven touchdowns, no turnovers with all this, and and they've
never lost games or something.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah, So basically, bro in the three game per and
whatever it is, three like it was something like going
oh and three, right or something like that.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
He didn't want a game. Yeah, fucking nuts, dude.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Here's a stat for you guys, you're ready. Fucking Rico
Dowell is the first former Cowboy to rush for more
than one hundred yards against US.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I know Emmett couldn't do it. The Marco couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Not knocked out do it against Remember we beat him up,
Yeah yeah, we beat him up.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, but you're right, they said that, and they made
sure they said that.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Right came. He even said afterwards, he's like, yo, he's like,
I have nothing, but he has to love the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
They're the one that they don't him. And you know what,
when Chuba Hubbard's back, guess what Rico You're going. I
don't know. I don't know, Bro, that'd be stupid. Just no.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Listen, he just rushed two hundred yards plus two weeks
in a row against the thirty first and thirty second rush.
Defense doesn't matter, though, oh it does. I listen, I
get it, Bro. We had Rico for four fucking years.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
I get out ard. He just diced up the worst
defenses in the league.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Okay, but even the best defenses are everything is such
fucking everything's mediocre, Bro, there's no there's.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
No as the kids call it mid, well, everything's mid.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Even even the best teams are mid.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
But going back to last year too starts. I mean
I saw like when he started he had one hundred
and twenty five yards. He had one hundred like he
was the guy.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
It wasn't until he until McCarthy came out and said,
Rico R.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah, I know, but I'm saying this isn't.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
A two game No, no, no, I'm just saying that. But
he's done it.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
I mean, he's not gonna rush for two hundred yards
every fucking week. He's not O Jay Simpson.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
I don't think he's gonna have the opportunities to rush
for that.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yeah, but I mean, you got it, you got I'm
gonna use your alls terms and I'd never used before.
Give the fucking guy his flowers. I don't give a
fuck if they're thirty second, thirty first ranked. What he
did with the Cowboys last year continuing into his starts
this year is very fucking impressive.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Look, I like Rico. I'm I'm not about the he
came out.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
But he said that, he's like, yeah, I got nothing
for love of those guys. They didn't buckle up.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
But he's just having fun with them. Bro, he's not.
He means no harm. You know, he's having fun and
he knows having no fun me.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
What everybody fails to realize. And it's like this in
my business, you know, you're friends with a lot of
high profile people and what people don't realize. Everybody's friends, right,
It's not like you know, everybody has a theory. All
these NFL guys that play, I mean, they're competitive on
the field. Everybody talks shit. It's like, you know, if
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you're playing, if me and Keith are playing a video game,
you know he's talking ship or I'm talking shit. It's
just it's just what friends.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
I've watched some of those live stream video games, like
everybody should be arrested for hate Christs, but they're so
fucking rough. Anyway, we're moving on. We're two three and one.
Here come the Commanders back to our house in Dallas.
The defense sucks, the offense is great, Keith. Now first,
someone Brett Brett, we have uh, like I said, where
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our offense is clicking and humming. You saw what the
Bears were able to do yesterday on the ground. Caleb
Williams did a couple of nice things and the Bears
beat the Washington Commanders. What is the recipe and what
is your prediction? How do we handle the Redskins going.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
To The prediction is what's gonna happen? Is what Keith
said might happen? I don't think our offense starts firing
on this game. I think I think we get blown
out like thirty five to like fourteen or ten.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
It'd be higher than that. But yeah, well that's the case.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
How how can you, Plaine, How do you explain to
the fan base that Eberflus is the guy?
Speaker 5 (50:44):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
How do you explain to the fan base that Eberflus
is here to stay?
Speaker 5 (50:47):
We don't. I mean, unless we fix the problem, he's
not the guy.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
But I'm just saying, if Jerry, if Jerry and these
guys are hanging on the table, we're.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Gonna know what he's saying. I mean, we we'd have
to worry about that after that.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
But I'm just saying, but these are the things, like
we've we've gone through this already, right.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
You lose a tragic.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
One three point loss to the Carolina Panthers, who again
they played they hit on everything that you needed to
hit on the winning football game.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
They did that.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
If you go out and they get the doors blown
off you at home.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
But what else doesn't show that he's not the guy?
They put up four hundred and the left.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Clearly clearly they think he is. Though that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
They beat us in time of possession.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Even I understand all that, but I'm saying, sir.
Speaker 4 (51:27):
Listen, what is your question the bread though he gave
you his answer, like what what do you want to know?
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just having the debate,
like what else do we have to see that he's
not the guy?
Speaker 4 (51:38):
I mean we are, but we all all three he's
not the guy.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
So there's put like this, even if we win thirty
five to twenty four, Okay, he's still not the guy.
It's I mean, or it's I mean, it's it's a
schematic problem. We don't know, but it doesn't matter. I
think our defense, I think our offense is you for
a tough game, and I think if anybody's going to
(52:03):
figure that out at stan Quinn.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Okay, so you got a significant marginal win.
Speaker 5 (52:08):
By the top fourteen something something.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
That's a big win.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Okay, Keith, now go ahead, you go, Okay, fine, Cowboys
win this game?
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Was Colways win this game? There was talk let's whych
I think this.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Offense is too good to be completely shut down the
way they were, well not even completely shut down.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
They had their way.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
My dad said it best thirty points for the Cowboys
and you will win football games. They didn't score thirty
last week, they score twenty seven and lost. Right, So
if the Cowboys can get over that thirty point threshold,
you have to assume and again this is hard for
me to even think of, but you got to assume
they can make a stop at some point throughout this
game where it's going to be the marginal. So when
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we went up big on the Jets, you said it, Keith,
you went at the halftime saying we got this. Yea,
we got this. I'm not saying it's going to happen
in this game. I'm saying that if we can get
a two possession lead, a two score lead at any
point of this.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Game, that they win this football game.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I'll give you a score thirty four twenty seven, thirty
four to twenty seven. If they give up twenty seven
points as per usual, but they score more Seedee Lamb
might be back, Tyler Booker might be back, Cavan de
Turpin might be back. All said that they're going to
be practicing this week trending on coming back.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
So if you got all.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Your your arsenal on offense, most possessions win I'm not
talking about time of possession.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
I'm talking about most possessions.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
The Cowboys can get the ball first and score, then
I like it, okay, but it could completely be flipped
on its ear. Just so everybody's here, I'm predicting a win,
but I'm also saying, with Brett's prediction, I am totally
if that happens, I'm not gonna be like, I can't
believe it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (53:49):
Like, I'm all, you're not gonna be like, man, you
thought they were gonna get blown out, You're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
No, No, because I could see that.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
But I'm just trying to be a little optimistic saying
it's just a quick comment.
Speaker 5 (53:58):
If dan Quinn, if you're right, Because if I think
any coach is going to get our number offensively, it's
going to be dan Quinn. It gives me a little
bit more hope for the season. Again.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, you go to three three and one and things
look a little better.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, all right, so you go to two four one,
you go to two four to one, that's forget it.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
So we go back to last season when we beat
him in Washington with Cooper Rush. So you look at Schottenheimer, who.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Was roc right. He was like the quarterbacks, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
Yeah, yeah, I mean kind of he was calling the plays.
But okay, that's that's a plus. So he knows how
to play against dan Quinn dan Quinn. And as a
matter of fact, we played a damn good game with
Trey Lance the last game of the year. We almost
beat Washington at home the last game of the year.
So offensively, I can see his performing decent offense. But
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what you're speaking of I can't see. In order for
us to win with this defense, we have to play impeccable.
We have to play flawless, like you're talking about. No,
we can't.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
See anger come out fucking once. In order to this
is that would be flawless, would be a shutout.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
But like, you know, what do you mean a shutout?
Speaker 3 (55:16):
I'm saying defensive, No, defensive flaws game. No, I'm talking
about offense, not our defense. I said you.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
I said no, you're saying that our offense. You're saying
everyone comes back, even if we have everyone, we have
to be flawless, I mean in order because our defense
is that bad. Okay, now you flip Now you flip it,
and you're like Okay, what defenses have we won against
that have been.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
You know that's in the Giants, No, that have been good.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
The Packers put forty up on the Packers.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
So is it possible.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
It's possible, you know, it's possible to that what your
predictions possible as far as going thirty points goes, you know, thirty,
but them scoring under thirty is not fucking possible at
all in my eyes. Okay, I I just so you know,
and I just know this off the top of my head.
Do you know what the biggest shutout of all time is?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
Bright? You might know this?
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Forty four nothing?
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Forty four nothing say to get the Cowboys in general?
Speaker 5 (56:19):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:20):
And you know who it was again versus the Bears,
right exactly. I can't remember though who did it. I
don't know if Washington did.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
It to the Bears. The Bears did it to Washington?
Speaker 5 (56:31):
Seventy two?
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Nothing is is that?
Speaker 5 (56:34):
You know how I remember that?
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (56:36):
John Campanera has a great bit. He's like, what was
that halftime speech? Like, all right, guys for down forty
four nothing weekends?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
That's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, No, I'm I'm looking for the actual number, Like
the biggest shutout.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Of all time. Oh it's seventy two nothing, fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Guys, you're you're off, You're off here, there's no there's
there's no seventy two nothing. What are you talking about,
the biggest blowout in NFL history. I'm looking right, blowout, shutout,
shut out. Fine, the biggest shutout happened in two thousand
and nine and it was the Patriots beating the Titans
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fifty No, I'm looking right at NFL dot com.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
You're really gonna argue.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
I'm definitely gonna argue with you, guys if I'm looking
right at the show.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
You look at what post super Bowl? Is that? What
that is?
Speaker 5 (57:33):
It could the merger, it could be before the merger.
So check a FL NFL biggest blowout or just put
Washington seventy two nothing NFL game, see what comes up.
Speaker 3 (57:44):
Okay, okay, talk amongst yourselves.
Speaker 5 (57:46):
Like he has a great bit on it. I know that,
I know it's a fact that that's like.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
We know too.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
I mean, there's no, yeah, it was not, are you
old focks?
Speaker 3 (58:00):
It was the nineteen forty NFL Championship game and it
was before we just know NFL history, which this was
before back there, Live Star.
Speaker 4 (58:11):
You can't blame it on our age.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
We just know our history of the end of way.
What was the score?
Speaker 5 (58:16):
Nothing or something?
Speaker 3 (58:17):
Fuck y'all? Both it was three nothing? Who was it?
Was it the Bears of the Washington that one?
Speaker 4 (58:23):
Ah, the Bears are Washington?
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Who is? I think it's the Bears right?
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (58:27):
Nationally it was played Griffith and sell Out. The Chicago
Bears met the Redskins. Neither team playing game. It isn't all.
The Bears scored eleven touchdowns, so they won seventy three nothing. Okay,
eleven touch so they basically were the Saints of.
Speaker 5 (58:41):
It was the Canton Bulldogs versus regardless, regard.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
Regardless anyways. I just was thinking about that because so
what do you say? What do you say?
Speaker 4 (58:55):
Because I'm being serious, If our offense doesn't like you
fucking don't know, I would.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Bet my fucking kidney that the Cowboys can't get shut
out with the offense they have this year.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
I would I would bet my fucking.
Speaker 5 (59:08):
You gotta remember too, if unless it's a series of
three and outs, even if our offense has a problem
getting in the end zone and we're driving, you.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
Can the logo right, Yeah, but you gotta think if hey,
well here here's how it works. Starts, and if you
go down twenty four to nothing, there's no Auburn. They're
going four down territory.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
And you know that. Still I would still in my
whole you can cut that. How I look at it,
this is what just gonna shake out. Keep guys. I
love the way I love.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
The way you both you both broke it down because
you're both right. You both could be right, both of you.
But I go I lean more towards Brett. As far
as us losing, I would say forty one to twenty one, okay,
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
Okay, I would say forty.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
One point at a teen stadium and and the place
will implode.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
All it was forty the fucking didn't for the lines
beat us forty nine to three or nine last.
Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Year or something last year. I'm talking about this year
of what the landscape.
Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Is now still possible.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Oh we didn't have the best offense last year, we
have the best gave us twenty one points. I mean,
that's that's thanks. You got.
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
What you got to look at, Starch is if you're
down your your whole concept of of drives this can't
be a different vibe.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I could agree with that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
So so for I say, you know, if we lose this,
something going to be like that. They get a forty,
they get they get over forty points.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
I refuse to say forty burger.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I fucking hate that they get over forty points Washington
and we get in between twenty and thirty.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
That's what I would say. That's one scenario. Interesting, no way.
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
So if we win, how's that score gonna go?
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Now that's the second one six three. By the way that.
Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Happens, I guarantee you uh uh, Barflos is gone. I'm
twenty right now. If if that happens, throw everything out
the window. He is fucking gone on Monday. Guaranteed he's gone.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
If we get blown out like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
That, and to your your lips, to God's ears, because
that's what everybody wants. So that means we're gonna have
to get the ship kicked out of us.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I kind of called the Pickens trade.
Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
I kind of called that pipe Parsons trade. If we
if this happens, if this happens and he gets humiliating,
humiliated again at home, gone, he's fucking done.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Okay, now, I would I would never. I would never
root for the Cowboys to lose. Ever, But like if
if that's the playoff, if that's the payoff, so be it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Go ahead. This is the.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Prediction that you're gonna be proud of. Okay, all right,
this is the either or you're gonna be happy because.
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Ki Barkless, Tucker Flues is gone. Yeah, barberleoss barb later perfectly.
Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
So is it funny? Okay? Is it funny?
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
You're like, you know what I'm acting like right now?
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I'm acting like the guy that gets on the jumbo
trail when we're down forty nine, nothing like, come on.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I'm just like, no, I'm having any fucking fun. Okay,
here we go. Yeah, you're gonna love this waiting.
Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
It's either that score or it's this one thirty eight
to seventeen Cowboys win. So what I'm trying to say
is that this game.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
With this.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
You cannot suck this bad as a defense so far
and not come out and put your fucking heart on
the line in this next game. Now, if they don't
do that, I'm going back to my conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
And we get blown out. That motherfucker's gone.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
So on Monday, we're even win.
Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
It's a win win, it's a win win.
Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Yeah, let him go go.
Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
So on Monday, we're either gonna be really happy about
it defense and see improvement, like Brett said, in a
different strategy or the other one, barfloss, see you later.
Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Fucking we get that.
Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
We're gonna bring up that defensive alignment coach.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
That's a court.
Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
That's a mad man. I think his name is white
Lock or some ship. I don't Yeah, but anyways, Yeah,
so that's uh.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Remember remember the Australian guy we had years ago. I
was like, we're gonna rush the past. Hey, I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Mind offering Al Harris a job back Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
I mean, we can't get anybody off anybody else's team
next year.
Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
I'll say this, if the second prediction Keith made is right, okay,
because this is a big win. If we beat If
we beat Washington, we're only a game and a half
behind the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
And depends what Eagles do.
Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
And then I mean, if we win and they win,
we're still a game and a half behind, right, and
we beat Arizona the following week going into the bye,
we get over shown back. We can make a run.
If this game. If the defense plays can like I said,
if they can solve only twenty five percent of the
problems and the offense starts firing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
So Brett make a run, so Brett.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
In lieu of that statement, this game against the Washington
Commanders is a what killing the blank must win?
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
I guess you win. If we win the way Keija
said it, then we crescendo.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
If we win the way Keija said it. Guess what,
ladies and gentlemen, super Bowl back on? All right, I
don't want to hear another word again, none of you.
Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Guys league, and I always have my eye on how
a lot of the other teams are playing. There isn't
It's like I said, there's everybody's.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Mid a lot of parody, A lot of time.
Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
We went toe to toe with the two best teams
in the NFC, and we should have won if we
had even a fucking third of the defense.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, a third of it? All right?
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Well, listen, the Urns boys have Washington Commanders winning this,
but there is a scenario where they think that Cowboys
can pull it off.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Strong strong on the star, Dallas Cowboys got to get home,
got it right? All right? Well, that's fine. I'm just
saying I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Here to provide the positivity voice of the Jersey Boys Podcast,
and next week when we record, we will either be
talking about the new interim defensive coordinator, according to Keith,
or we're talking about a three three to one Dallas
Cowboys team who might be in second place. So it's
gonna be a wild ride. Buckle the fuck up like
we didn't do last week against Freeco Dawdell. For Dame'scio,
(01:05:33):
Keith and Brett Earnst, this has been another episode of
the Jersey Boys Podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Let's Go Cowboys for the love of God.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Remember it's a win win come Monday morning, so somebody's
getting fired or we're getting the duve.
Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Good night everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Hey, this is Tony Sopranco and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcast with your host Dave Stercio and the Ernboys.
I mean, I can give a shit what the Cowboys
win New Jersey. These guys got bar being cowboys fangin Jersey. Anyways,
Enjoy whatever
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
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