What's Our Confidence in "Schotty"? Is Micah Parsons on his way out?

The Cowboys Drop their second pre season game of the 2025 campaign and nobody really cares about the result but the Jersey Boyz Podcast is back to break down the piss poor play of Joe Milton. Are we ok with Milton being the backup to Dak Prescott? What are our options? The Cowboys also have decisions to make in regards to Micah Parsons and his wanted extension and or trade. Either way, it has gotten messy. Join Dave Sturchio, Bret Ernst and Keith Ernst on another loaded episode of The Jersey Boyz Podcast! #MicahParsons #JoeMilton #DallasCowboys #JerseyBoyzPodcast

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this's is Starny soprano and you're listening to Jersey
Boys Podcast with your host Dave Stshiw and the Urns Boys.
I mean, I could give a shit about the Cowboys
when New Jersey. These guys got bulls being Cowboys fans
in Jersey. Anyways, enjoy well whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Cowboys Nation.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
What's going on is another episode an installment of the
Jersey Boys Podcast, your host, of course, Dave Stircio, alongside
nationally known comedian Brett Ernst, an America's fan the Gringe.
Keith Earnst back in the building as well. As the
Cowboys have fallen to zero to two on the preseason,
doesn't matter in regards to the record. Who gives a shit,
But it didn't matter. The game didn't ruin my weekend.

(00:50):
Keith Earnst ruined my weekend. We'll get into all that
so much more as cutdown days approaching us next Tuesday.
And of course you have one more game to be
played against the Atlanta Falcons in Dallas this weekend, Friday night,
as a matter of fact, not Saturday night, so a
Friday night game for the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
But Keith, how we doing man?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
After a second straight loss and a and a stellar
performance out of Joe Milton Jr.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
So it's you said, I ruined your weekend, but it
starts with that fucking game. That game. That's where it
all comes from.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
So yeah, I mean, look, the Cowboys obviously, you know
there's a lot of a lot of things to fix,
a lot of things going into the final week of
the preseason. Cut down days a big one because there's
a lot of decisions for this team to be making.
Really don't know which direction they're going to go in,
but we do know that Joe Milton Junior will or
Joe Milton the third or whatever you want to say,

(01:48):
is going to start for the Cowboys on Friday night.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Bro go ahead, Well, Brout was going to say something.
What were we going to say?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
No, I was saying he was. He was being sarcastic
about our joking around about it because I was asking him,
I'm like, what the hell were you guys talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
You were I felt like you relate to the party
on that text threat. So what happened was.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh, you tell your story, then I'll tell mine.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
All right, Listen, there's two sides and there's the truth
right now.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
So like the true.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm the truth, You're.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
The truth, right, so here it is an observer.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Let me break this down for everybody outside that.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
He doesn't he doesn't play biases towards me.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Come on, you know, yeah, well listen, you're right, because
like when we got on, before you got on, he was.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Like, that's who he is. Man, You're gonna have to
deal with them.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Grinch the kid. He's a wealth of knowledge and you
know you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to. You're
gonna have to deal with the Grinch, which I will say,
last week's podcast was so boring without you, bro, it
really was.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It was.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I listened to it. I liked it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It was. It was good.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You know what it is, we we lack the the
insight a little bit more when you're not around like
me and me and Breck can talk.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Brett's saying that Mike Shureard came after Michael Irvan No.
Mike sure was before Michael irv No. I said he came,
Oh was he? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah? Like the little nuances like that. So let me
pay the picture for you.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
The Cowboys have their game, will get into Chris the
cj DK Well.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I kind of I kind of understood that, though I.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Did so, I didn't think he was wrong, right, I
didn't think Titan Yeah, I was rolling with it, but
he's like, no, not Chris Johnson. I'm like, well, you
could have rolled with that. But anyway, so obviously, Joe Milton,
the game happens. We all watched it. We're all there,
step by step, play for play. He had a very
bad start again, finished finished, you know, mediocre at best.

(03:37):
So Keith's text to me was that we need another
we need a backup quarterback, right or something like that.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That was the we all we all agree that.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
I actually I went a little more in depth than that.
I brought up the actual day when the quarterbacks will
be available, when they're getting cut, right, I think that
was what August twenty eighth or so. I don't remember. Yeah, well, yeah,
we gotta cut that, We gotta yeah, we gotta find
a backup quarterback, of a reliable backup quarterback immediately.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
L which is not which is not out of the
realm of reality when it comes to what we see,
whether our.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Eyes just talk about that too. By the way, we
can always talk about the quarterbacks that are on the
brink that are that are decent backups, not now, but
you know that that we can we pick up hopefully
if they are cut.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
But anyway, I think I'm frozen only because I'm getting
a phone call. But don't worry about that.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
But the biggest thing was, and what I'm what I
was I lashed back at, is that we all know,
as real Cowboy fans as we all are, we know
that the Cowboys aren't going to do what we say
to do because it makes too much sense to us,
So why would they do it? So what I'm saying
to you guys, and when I said the Keith was
we're not Milton's going to be on this team.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
They traded for him. He's going to be on this team.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
So if you want to cut Greer cut gear, fine,
Like I like will Grear. I like what he can
do sometimes, but he's not obviously he's never Like if
the see if that went down and Greer is the answer, Like,
you might as well just pack it in, right.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
So the the the.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Argument started was that you thought that he's showing a lot.
He showed a lot more last year with the Patriots
as a rookie than he did in the first two
games as a Dallas cowboy. I came back with the statistics, right,
and sometimes you can go based off that, sometimes you can't.
I came back and said, well, you know, if you
look at the stats, he's got more yards already in

(05:24):
two games than he had in three games at a
preseason last year. He has more touchdowns, or he has
one less pick. He has more picks this year, one fumble.
The stats basically showed that it was very similar right there, similar, right,
And you're you also said that he had the game
of his life or whatever against Buffalo at the end
of the end of the year last year, which again

(05:45):
was detrimental to New England, but he had a show
that he had something in the tank. So you're looking
at it from a perspective of the Joe Milton last
year is much better than the Joe Milton that we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is that? Does that break it all down like that?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Uh? Well, to break down the preseason again? And I
asked if you actually watched the games, and you said
did you? And I said, well, no, but I did
follow him. When I said I followed him, I liked him.
Coming out of Tennessee. SEC is one of the few
conferences I liked to watch, so I did want to

(06:20):
see what he was going to do for New England.
And I guess the thing that stood out in my
head because I'm not google searching, I just remember seeing
that he had a good preseason was his last preseason game,
which I did have to google because I'm like, why
did I think he had a good preseason game where
they won seventeen to three and he led them to
two touchdown drives at the end, you know, go on

(06:42):
was one was a thirty eight yard bomb, Like he
looked poised, all this shit that they said in that
last preseason game for him. So that what took out
my head about Joe Milton, plus the regular season finale
where he had one hundred and ten quarterback rating for
the Patriots and had the highest eff of any quarterback
that week. Now we could sit there and say, oh,

(07:05):
the Bills bench their starters, but guess what, that's still
better talent than what he's going against right now.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because the three of the Bills.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, so I mean the Bills are not the backups
of whoever he was playing exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
So what he did then was very impressive. So I
only poise the question and let me. I'm not defending
Joe Milton because I have my own eyes and I
see for myself now when I'm watching with them, he
is playing awful, fucking awful. There's no excuse. The only
thing I said that triggered Dave, I believe and ruined
his day was should we be looking at coaching a

(07:41):
little bit?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Not not?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Should we be looking for another coach? Should we be
looking at coaching coaching yards in regards to why, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Maybe that has something to do with it, only because
of looking what Milton did last season, That's all. And
then it went out. Then it went out of control,
and I ruined his day. I debunked him. He knows
nothing about football. He called my mama whore. It was awful.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Never I would never do that, Nah, I would never
do that.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
First of all, as an objective observer, it could be both.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
The but but.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
What what I was seeing is Milton again missing wide
open targets. So if the receivers are getting open, then
the right plays being called, and then Sturch is right
because the Joneses will double down on this like I mean, look,
if Milton has an amazing game against uh uh Atlanta,

(08:40):
uh Danucci who were playing Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh wait, wait, guys, I don't know if you know
breaking news Ben Denucci has signed with the Falcons.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, that's what I mean. He might.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Okay, just everybody's clear.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Well if if he, uh, you know, it's going to
be a shootout between even playing in the last two weeks.
But you know, Milton's just been missing and I'm in
agreement with both of you, you know, and I'm not
just trying to be Sweden here and neutral, but they're
both valid points. So we got to see how Milton

(09:14):
does this preseason game. Now, going back to that, though
I didn't I wasn't matter what I agreed with the
Milton thing, that they're going to hold on to him regardless.
But I also said that we could still they'll cut well,
we carry three quarterbacks last season, we'll do it again.
But I think we should can't we Why can't we
do that Milton like we do with Trey Lance and
then get a good backup if they don't want to,

(09:35):
you know, if their ego.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Is going to be hurt, I should say, well, last
year Trey Lance was at emergency three that they don't
count as part of the fifty three and that they're
technically not practice squad, So yeah, you can do that
and make Joe Milton that third guy. But again, in
Brian Schottenheimer's press conference yesterday, he said that the reason
why that Milton's going to get the start on Friday

(09:59):
is because that's the quarterback they need to learn more about.
They don't need to learn more about Will Grear. They
know what Will Greer possesses, they know his skill set.
They need to learn more about Joe Milton. I agree,
I agree in that regard because there ain't gonna be
Dak clearly, you know, color me shocked, but like, but
this is.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
What bothers me about our GM and I don't want
to say our head coaches. I don't know. If he
has anything to do with the talent evaluation, then why
is Will Greer there? If we know what he is
and he's gonna get cut, then why the fuck is
he there? Why don't we have another backup we brought
in before the season, maybe a Nick Mullens or somebody
that didn't sign yet. Why are we just taking Will

(10:39):
Greer and saying, okay, yeah, well we know he's not
going to make the team, so let's keep them. No, no, no,
it may be the other way. It may be like, Okay,
we're gonna keep Will Grear and we got to find
out if we're going to get rid of Milton and
get some value for him.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
He got to be right. No, that makes more sense
because if it's the other way, he'd be playing and
he and he he's been on the team a long
time and you know, he showed some promise when he
was in the game. They might be like, look, Will,
we're gonna keep Will as a third. We need to
find out if we're going to kick Miilton as his side.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think if anything, if they're really looking for a
true backup quarterback, then they should have brought somebody in
on Sunday morning and said, you know what, you're gonna
practice all week, you're gonna play in the game, and
if you can out play Joe Milton, then then we'll
have some decisions to make. Because if you're just going
in there with Joe Milton as your quarterback and he's
going to play three quarters again or maybe the full
game or whatever, like, what are you trying to get

(11:34):
if if at the end of the Atlanta game and
We're all standing there talking, texting at you know, eleven
o'clock at night on the East Coast when the game
is over, and we're like, dude, this guy is just
not it. Well, then you've run out of time to
find it, you know what I mean, Because if that's
not your backup quarterback, then that's it, like you don't
have another game.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But I do believe though, you can get a quarterback
that's cut, haven't played behind Dak for a few four
or five weeks, and then hopefully he doesn't get injured
the first few weeks. He could catch on. He could Yeah,
I understand.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And you know what, there was a there was a
rumor yesterday that the Giants were fielding calls for Jameis
Winston and I was all over that. I was like,
oh my god, I would kill to have Jameis Winston
as the backup quarterback of the Cowboys. Kill for that,
because I think that that dude can win games. We've
seen him do it right time and time again. And
right now he's not going to get a fair shake.
It's Russell Wilson's job to lose over there in New York.
And now they're talking about Jackson Dart being the three right,

(12:28):
and then you got the other Pizon over there.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
He's doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
So it's like we're looking at this, We're looking at
this backup quarterback position as the only reason why we're
giving it so much press and time on the podcast
is because of Dak's health over the last couple of years.
That's the only reason why this is such a highly
coveted position, because Dak Prescott has not been healthy. I
don't want to say he's injury prone, but like you know,

(12:54):
on's the.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Last time he started every game in the season. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I would have tom well, did he do it?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I think he did it in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Maybe I would have to go to his because.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm trying to think when Rushfield in for him. Was
twenty twenty two those four to three games or four games? Yeah,
I mean it was, wasn't it. I'm just saying I
think that Dak was twenty twenty three. I think he
played that whole season when we lost.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
To Green Bat twenty twenty I'm looking right now, is
twenty Well, no, dude, I mean the last time he
did it, Yes, it was twenty twenty three, it was yeah,
but just possible. Twenty twenty one, twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen,
twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, he started all the games, so
we can't really like, yes, we're basing it off of
a bad broken ankle in twenty twenty and then a

(13:42):
shitty twenty twenty two and then a shitty twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So those are three years that he's ten.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, that was twenty two.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
At twenty twenty two he missed four games. So again
we're looking at this as a as a debate because
if we're going with Joe Milton going forward, and what
we're seeing right now is that Joe Milton just for
whatever reason, has this ability to, yes, can he launch
the ball in ninety five yards down the field one
hundred percent? But the problem is he puts that same

(14:12):
velocity on a slant route, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
The touch isn't there for Joe Milton.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
And that's a big concern considering Prescott coming off the hamstring, because.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
You're Ouradaya standback. He's like, look, he's throwing to a
full back. He's not throwing to a receiver. So I
guess you know, certain quarterbacks have to look at who
they're throwing to. They throw softer balls at certain players,
you know what I mean, that's fair too. He's throwing
like ceede, lamb, he's gonna rip it, you know. But
you see Hunter Lipke coming out, you know you can
take some.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
And that problem is twofold Keith.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
That problem is two fold because now we're looking at
cut day next Tuesday, right, and they have one more
game to show out and do whatever they possibly can
do to make this team. And unfortunately it looks like
Jonathan Mingo is headed for that short term I are
to start the year, so we'll have four weeks to
reevaluate Jonathan Mingo because he injury. But like, how the
hell are we supposed to evaluate these receivers with this

(15:05):
quarterback play?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
We can't.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I'll tell you right now. Cropper does not look good.
No few passes that Milton looked beautiful and he dropped,
which was a movie and you know that you can't.
And I feel bad for the kid because you know
it's hard, you know, I mean, you're not getting a
ball and then finally you get one of you drop one.
It's like damn it, you know what I mean, it
doesn't mean focks at all. But you know, like you said,

(15:28):
the evaluations that they're giving right now, you get thrown
one pass, you gotta catch it with this guy.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Because yeah, yeah, outside of that, you got to go
to practice and you got to like, oh yeah, he's
flashing in practice. Yeah, okay against our not so great
corners right now, you know what I mean? So, how
are we supposed to evaluate the wide receiver? And we
got a shit ton of them right that. I was
listening to uh Patrick Walker this morning about you know,
some of the receivers that might be on the chopping

(15:54):
block because they just haven't seen enough. And you know,
all signs are pointing to Jalen Tolbert sticking around right.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
But they're talking about Prade right with Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I mean that there could be some trade packages because
now you're looking at a team like Trey Shawn Holden
has shown a lot in practice, but then like you
see one big catch out of Mingo and you're like, oh,
there's Mingo, and then he gets hurt and you're like,
all right, there goes Mingo. So it's like you're you're
wondering who's going to stand out. Cavanti Turpin. Yeah, he's
on this team. He's not going anywhere, right, These are
special teams, all Pro special teams member. So he's going

(16:25):
to be a third or fourth receiver. So now you
really got to find out who's going to step up
with that three spot. And you know, we've got guys
like Ryan floorin Oi who's But.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
What's annoying to me is that by having a guy
like Milton in there doing what he was doing, we
can't it's hard for us to evaluate anything, right, you've
been saying, yeah, so it's it's like, Okay, now now
we have this crap shoot because god, he was missing

(16:55):
wide open guys, and like he said, they were dropping balls,
you know, because they have they're getting shot out of
a cannon.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That used to be a joke, you know when you
drop a ball in preseason, like the first words out
of your.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Mouth is cut.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, exactly, But but now you're looking at it, you're like, yeah,
he might be cut.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Like there's not enough.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
We can't put a cog. We got to decide between
two things in here. What would who would we rather
evaluate a backup quarterback or a receiver. When I'm trying
to say to make the team. So they're going with
with Milton, and I agree, I would start Greer. Give
Greer the the weapons that Milton has in the beginning

(17:36):
of the game, the offensive line he has in the
beginning of the game, and obviously let's see what he
could do with these receivers. They give them a shot.
Milton has had his shot two games in a row,
and he looks awful. And that's what it is, you
know what I mean. And you could put him in
the fourth quarter, maybe we'll do better. Why don't they
just switch it one game so we.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Know what you know?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Crazy though, and you know this, you guys have both
played the game, I know on the defensive side of
the ball. But what we what you can know just
knowing football, is that once you get going into a rhythm,
you can get going into a rhythm. The problem is
we haven't seen any rhythm whatsoever. Like you see one
big long ball down the sideline, you're like, there's the
Joe Milton we traded for.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
And then pick one play, the one player that stands
out in my head in that game, right, the one
the worst play he had. And it's not even overthrowing,
it's not even innerse it's not was the safety. I
don't know what you're doing. He had four seconds, three
four seconds, and he's just looking in one direction like

(18:36):
he was expecting to get hit. It was weird. And
then you look underneath. All those guys are open underneath.
He could have just dumped it. That To me, it
was about awareness looking looking at your uh what do
they call it, percussions? Whatever they whatever? Yeah, I bet
there was nothing there. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's that that right there is when I'm like, Okay,
you want to be off, Fine, you want to you know,
you want some on the drug, fine, drop the ball.
But when you can't do something like that basic I meant,
especially after the shitty game you had the game before,
in your first drive, I meant, that's that's when I
checked out, and I'll and I'll do it all the time.
I've been wrong on this podcast a lot. I was

(19:17):
the main one pushing for this guy. If you go
back to receipts, I'm the one that's I was excited.
I'm the one that said, oh, I think this guy
has a shot. I even got my brother. I think
I got my brother hyped up where he's like, yeah,
he's gonna replace Dak by the fifth game. No, everybody's
head like, dude, blame blame me, because I'm I was

(19:39):
completely final shady.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Shadey McCoy, not that he's anything of note, but like
I remember his words.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Were like, Dak better look for a real estate agent.
He might have to leave.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I'm like, yeah, he might want to fire that real
estate agent because he's not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
If Dak starts Dak in the first five games, and
we might want to take a look at mel if
we want to save the season. If no, No, I
would That's what I said prior to myself.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, no, I I would.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Say for once, I agree that Dak Prescott should not
see the fielding preseason at all. He should be in
the inside a bubble, as you said, start somewhere locked away,
you know, in a in an iron Man Marvel prison.
We're not, said, dude.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I the Schottenheimer said it yesterday during that press conference,
is like, we're gonna have two really physical practices, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like, no, I don't do.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
We cannot afford to have Dak like tweak a hammy
or break a finger or whatever the case, Like, what
do we get.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'll dude, I'll tell you, I'll take someone like a
Nick Mullins or somebody with this offense. You know what, just.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Hot take here? Who I would Who I would take?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I would in a swap, in a swap of styles,
I would take Joe Milton and like a fifth or
six or something like that, trade them to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Go get me Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh, that'd be awesome, bro.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I would take Kirk Cousins on this team at.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Exactly the ready though this could be a seg Parsons,
Micah Parsons first round and Kirk Cousins. So basically, we
give them Robinson and we give them Parsons, they give
us a first round in Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Well, I mean that's kind of relevant because now now
I'm not trading Michaeh.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Parsons for our backup quarterback.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
You know what I mean, Like it's just the first
rounder than I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
But again, so speaking of said Michael Parsons, I am.
I think Cowboys Nation as a whole are very tired now.
It's like they have Parsons fatigue, right. I just think
that this whole thing has gotten so overblown because now
you're looking at scenarios, and I went on, I beat
my chest and I said, Parsons deal is going to

(21:59):
get done yesterday, literally on August eighteenth, the day before
the documentary drops. So there's no bad press heading into
the documentary. Right, it's clear as day that they don't
give a shit. They don't get They are standing on
this and here's the scenario and where we're at. The
Jerry Joneses and the Stephen Joneses of the world say,

(22:19):
you will have a contract. We picked up your fifth
year option. This is your fifth year. You will play
on this contract. Right, they're standing on that hill. Michael
Parsons is being the new age athlete saying, Hey, I
have to worry about mine. I have to worry about
my future. I need an extension. I cannot play on
this one year deal. Bullshit, because what if I break
my leg, I'll never play right again or something like that.

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I understand both sides. The issue is there's been no communication.
What the fuck is the hold up? I don't understand.
I don't get it. If there was any negotiations in
March and April, like they said, when it comes to like,
oh they had a handshake deal. This is what we
want to do blah blah blah blah blah. Right, that
doesn't work. It's not nineteen eighty nine. You can't shake
hands with somebody and say no, that's it, you know, like,

(23:02):
that's not well.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I think. I think. What I think is we have
two weeks after this Friday night that they'll get it
done or they'll make a decision.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
They have to go one way or another, you know.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Sign them. Because we got our asses kicked on both
sides of the ball. A lot of it was not
the defense's fault. I at the time of possession was ridiculous.
Last game, Uh, Sambourne looked good. I like Shamar James
as far as linebackers.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Go, Keeth ready for this, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
LEAFU and uh and Gavone Clark played pretty good.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
So that's that's the topic of that that I had
to break. I was eating my breakfast watching Patrick Walker
and they're going over you know, their their cuts and
stuff like that, or they're trying to narrow down the
fifty three and the host asked, he goes, would you
say that the linebacking corps is the bright spot of
the twenty twenty five preseason and I'm like, Keith is

(23:59):
going to lose his ship. Was like, there's no way.
And it's true, though, like the guys that are actually
playing the best football out of everything.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Coct two games in just too is the linebackers.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
And and weird to say that because of the depth
we or the depth we thought we didn't have.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, and it's it's and I'm realizing more this time
that it's it's our D line that looks a Yeah,
That's what I was gonna say too. We had our linebackers.
Our linebackers are actually filling holes. And you know, even
if they're tackling four or five yards down the field,
is because the D line's getting blown up. At least
they're getting there as quick as they can and making
good reads. The D line looks fucking awful.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
But but but you agreed, you agreed there was no Osa.
There has been no Osa.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
One player, man, I understand.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
But sometimes that's all you need, you know, Like, sometimes
that's all you need up front. Right now, Mazzie keeps
getting blown off the ball. There's a lot of rumors,
heavy rumors that Mazzie might be on the way out.
But again, I try to take it from a realistic standpoint,
the Dallas Cowboys drafted him in the first round.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
They are not moving on from Mazzie Smith. Well, let
me ask you a question.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I think though, I mean he might be going down
the same route because Taco was was released or traded.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
R J o'hoa brought that up to me.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Not since that, not since the Taco Charlton debacle, have
we ever really parted ways with somebody that we highly coveted,
like a Mazzie Smith.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
But Mazzi is.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Getting blown off the ball, and Jay Touaya their seventh
round pick. He seems to have a little bit more
size and more like fill the gap and more.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
You know. Again, then you have Solomon Thomas, who also
hasn't played.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
He's going to be playing detackle, so you know, our
his help on the way in regards to the depth chart,
meaning like the first stringers.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
What's not worry so much?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I don't know, but I am happy about the linebacker
play because if you do get something. And we haven't
seen Kenneth Murray, we've not seen him in the preseason,
so he's pretty much a lock to be on this team.
But we've seen Sanborn, We've seen leafo. We've seen Damone
Clark do his thing, right, So now we're talking to
Shamar James. We're talking about all this and then you

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get to add a primo linebacker middle of the year
in overshown. So the linebackers is looking okay.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
And are our corners are obviously our dbs are affected
by all of this.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Correct, and they're hurt and and they're banged up.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Garrett ripped us apart. Garrett, I called him Jason Garrett
and the Cooper Rush the other redhead he uh, he
ripped us apart, dude. Besides that interception for a touchdown,
but that that's on the receiver, you got to knock
that down.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Also the shout out to the pressure from the outside
that made Rush throw that.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
We finally blitzed off the corner and we're like, got
right in his face.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Arsons, though, if we should just sign him, uh all right,
we got to have this discussion again, all right, And yeah,
I know you all want to sign him, but what
do you want to sign him? What are we gonna
I mean, I don't want him as that I don't
think he should be the richest non paid quarterback in
the NFL. I just don't Well, I'm just looking at

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the need we have for this season, and if we
can get a good linebacker corps like you know that
that has been showing promise and we put them on
the edge, it'll make a difference and help us. Isn't
that good though? Here I go, here I go. I'm
just saying, really that good? Can come answer this real quick?

(27:23):
If we would have made a move early, traded for him,
there's not a lot for him right now. If we
were to trade him that that that that's that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
The value, the value in trading him would happen after
the season because then you know who has a high
draft pick. You know who has all these picks, because
if you're if you're trading him to to I don't know, arbitrarily,
just say Kansas City and they're the thirtieth overall pick.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
They don't really really don't need that pick.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Or to the Falcons for Kirk Cousins, to the.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
One Joe Listen.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Troy Aikman went on record last night because they asked
about the leverage and how this was all going to
play out. Aikman thinks something's going to get done. But
he says, the leverage that Micah Parsons has is that
they're not going to be very good without him, right
like that. That's the leverage that he has right now, monetarily,
money wise and contract wise. We got the leverage. We

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can tag him for two years if we want. He
wants to sit out for three fucking years, then have
a fucking ball.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't know what to tell you, but Akman's saying
the leverage that Micah has right now is that the
Dallas Cowboys defense.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Will be far worse without Michael Parsons on the field.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
See, and I flipped that. I'm not I don't think
it's far worse. I'm not gonna say they're gonna be better,
but I don't know. Now. I just want to remind
everyone that's listening. Okay, let's talk about Michael Parsons real quick.
And I'm gonna go all the way back to the
twenty twenty three season, okay, And I bring this up
a lot, but it means a lot to me, and
I'm sorry because Micah is in his prime. In twenty

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twenty three Packer playoff game, Michaeh Parsons was on the
field for the first seven drives against the Packers. Okay,
six touchdowns. They scored on us six out of seven drives.
Michael Parsons is on the field. This guy that's going

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to be the game breaker, the guy that's going to
be the changer all this stuff we're talking about, that's
going to take all this money. Okay, fine, all right,
let's just chalk it off to a bad game. Even
though it's the fucking playoffs and it's a division we
had the easiest path to the goddamn super Bowl. But
we'll just say it's a bad game. What happened? Who
was our next home game after that? Do you guys

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remember the next season playoff wise, No, not playoffs. The
next season was the same. You're about twenty yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,
I'm just saying the very first home game and all
the hoopla, I'm hoopla by the way leading up to
that was oh we Michael Parsons said it, DeMarcus Warrens
said it. Who's gone, Oh we we haven't forgot about
the Packer game and what they what they did to us,

(29:52):
our defense. We owe this to our home crowd. We
owe it to this. Guess what first seven drives against
the Saints. Actually, I'm sorry, first six drives against the
Saints touchdown, Saints get a touchdown, Saints get a touchdown,
one touchdown, two touchdown, three touchdown, four touchdown, five touch
six touchdowns in a fucking row with Morrison's on the field.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know you know what burns me more. It burns
me more about the Saints is that they turned out
to be shipped.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Yes, exactly, it's a good call. But guess what we
had the Ravens coming to town the next week. Michael parsons,
we're stopping the run. I' he was gonna be the
key to stop Lamar Jackson and and Derrick Henry on
that Reid option. He was the key because he's quick,
he's fast, he's all that. Four touchdowns they scored, okay,
and of their first six drives, the Ravens ran for

(30:45):
two hundred and forty five fucking yards. Listen to me,
this is not the guy you make the highest paid
non quarterback in the NFL. I don't care. Do I
want him, yes? But do I think you should get
boot Coop money? I'm bookoo. By the way, I do
not I know. That's that's the conundrum here though, is

(31:07):
that right now for this season we need them or
or I mean or what you're just saying is is, look,
you know we tag them.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Well.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So the pushback online as far as where I live
on the Twitter verse is they're like, we need them
to win, and a lot of people are saying, Okay,
well we've had them, we haven't won, So what exactly
are we getting for that money? For that money, right?
And you know me, you know me, I was, I was,

(31:42):
I was banging on the door for dak to get paid,
for CD to get paid.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I am a little indifferent about Michael Parsons right now
because and it's weird for me to say that because
maybe I'm getting older. Maybe I'm just getting pissed off more,
you know, like maybe it's just like I'm so fucking
tired of these guy making all this crazy money.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Just remember remember.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
This, like in football, if you play seventeen games and
you have nine sacks for the year, ten sacks for
the year, that's considered a really good season for you.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
To me. That's a sack every other game. Yeah, you know,
it's like, so what exactly are we Look. I love Michaeh. Parsons.
I think the dude is a baller. I think he's
got a phenomenal skill set. I really do, coming off
the edge, he can. And again I said this a
lot about DeMarcus Lawrence. I said, stop worrying about the
goddamn stat sheet and worry about what he can do

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and what he makes other offenses do. They might have
to run away from him, right, They might have to
roll the pocket a different way because DeMarcus Lawrence is
over there, or maybe DeMarcus Lawrence could stop the run.
So offenses definitely may have to make adjustments when eleven
is opposing them. Right, you see eleven, you call them out.
He's right there. We got to go this way.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Corection held the fuck out of them all year.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well that too, and that's been a trending thing around
the league. But what I'm saying is, you know, he's
not out there sacking the quarterback twenty five times a year.
He's not out like we missed a lot. We sucked
last year, regardless, right like regardless we had no Dak.
Parsons went out for a little while too. And that's

(33:21):
the problem. That's where I think the Joneses are held up.
They're like, wait, dude, we're gonna we're gonna negotiate, We're
gonna talk, but you still got one more year, and
can you just stay on the fucking field for a year,
you know, and and show us and you know, prove
your work. A lot of these guys they have these
crazy good years from time to time and then they
then they capitalize off of that, and the market value

(33:44):
dictates how much these guys are gonna get paid. So Keith,
when you say you don't think he deserves top linebacker
money or edge rusher money, non quarterback, non quarterback.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Be the highest paid guy, right which all.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Signs are pointing to, that's what he's going to get.
And for me, the only reason why he's going to
get that is because it's just that time of the
month or at that time of the year, and he's
up next. Just like I talked about with Dak, just
like I talked about with CD, you're gonna get that
kind of money, do we?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know, who are we to say who deserves what? Right? Like,
he's gonna get his.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
But is it worth that money? That's that's that's I
would say this, Well, I would go even further. Why
should he be that guy?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Up?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
That's my question? Well, I just rattled off so much.
You know what what happened when he was on the field.
Why should he be that guy you're speaking of. I
get it. If it's a a Bosa or somebody maybe
that has has won playoff games that shows up in
playoff games that ship like that. That never happened to me.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Why so, why did Miles Garrett get the deal?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Their defense have been has been fantastic.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Have they won?

Speaker 4 (34:51):
They haven't won, but their defense has been great.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Why did Max Crosby get a massive deal?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
How about this? Well, how about this, I'll even take
it a step further. You're asking me, now, Miles Garrett,
you go find a game where they scored seventeen touchdowns
out of twenty drives or Miles.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
That is an anomaly? Yes, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Like you do say Crosby too, point though, is that
you know? Look, you the the consistency is just not there,
and he shows up in games that against weaker teams.
But Miles Garrett is consistent on in almost every game. Man. Man, Yeah,

(35:28):
but I get well, see, I was just he picked
a part when I said winning playoff games, but not
even winning playoffs. I'm just saying it's so much more
to that too. But you know, when you get a
when you're looking at the defensive performance, it's just awful.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's just I'm just looking at stats right now, and
every year we've had Michael Parsons, his sacks were thirteen,
thirteen and a half, fourteen and twelve and twelve sacks.
He missed four games and he still had twelve sacks.
So make no mistake about it, Michael Parsons is very,
very good.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He's good. But now we're we're pigeonholed because.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well he's not an LT or A.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, I mean four years in this is his fifty
year option.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
No, but LT. It was LT by his second year,
maybe in his first year.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Really yeah, crazy, I mean, but those.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I would even look at stats on that managed. I
know you're about to look at but look at the
eighties at a different time everything.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
But those guys weren't making nine and a half as
a rookie.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
What I'm saying, you're not making?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
They also ran Look.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
How many times the team ran at twenty and a
half sacks in nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Shit, all right, was a freak. I get it, all right.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
But but what I'm saying is is, uh, they're You're
that's part of the whole problem. It's almost like you're
in purgatory with them. You know, we meet those.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
With everybody, though we need him this year, I think
with the with the young defense, the new head coach, LT.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Was not the second No, he wasn't the paid non quarterback.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Those guys.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
You know, the amount of money that Micah is looking
at is.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Its generational wealth.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
It'll you know, I'm not mad at that. I'm not
mad at how much the younger player because even the
third stringer is making more than those guys did. What
I'm saying is is that we're talking it. Everything's relative, right,
So when when you were looking at those types of pays,
what they were making, Micah would be the highest paid

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non quarterback in the NFL. That's insane for I mean,
what does that do for us? As far as I mean,
if we can afford him, just sign them.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well that's the thing. Here's the thing. And I'll be
blunt and honest. They can afford him. They can. It's
not gonna fucking It's not gonna hamstring them. It's not
gonna put them back. It's not gonna put them in
the red. There's ways we could handle this and structure
it in a way where they can make his twenty
twenty five cap number less than fucking a kicker, right,
as long as he's got his guaranteed money and he's

(38:05):
gonna kick the can down the road and be here
for the next five years. However you want to structure it.
There is no shortage of cash flow in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
There's not.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
We have thirty five thirty three million dollars in space
right now without making a move, right, So you want
to give him, uh, you know, thirty this year and
then leave us with three for the rest of the year,
go nuts, and then make it forty and forty five.
And look, all I know is the contract is going
to be the contract. We don't have to worry about that.
That where it's not our money, We don't really care
about that. But what I'm saying is all the stuff,

(38:36):
all the all the the circus that's that's ensued with
all this shit, is.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
That worth all of this.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
We haven't one shit with him. We haven't done anything
in the playoffs with this game wrecker on the field, right, So, like,
I understand Keith's point to one hundred percent, and I'm
and I'm I'm sort of siding with Keith here, And
I didn't think I would ever do that, you know.
I'm always like, pay him whatever he wants, just fucking
get him on the f This one, it just feels different.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It just feels like, you know what, I think it is,
cut you off. No, I think it is I don't
want to play for the Cowboys anymore.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
He said it, He said it in And I think
that bothers me more than anything else, because when you're offering,
you're like, you know what, if you don't want to
pay me, trade me. And that's the verbiage you should use,
not if you don't want to pay me. You know what,
I kind of don't even want to be here anymore anyway.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
That's what we're doing that.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
He's doing that to get the victim leverage.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
So Jones he got the Joneses to spin. He did so.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I was gonna say, though, in persons defense too, is
he's never asked to be the highest non paid quarterback.
He even said he doesn't need to be, so I
don't know that.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
He said that before Mullagata got ahold of him.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
That's that's the agent, right.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
But agent, he was ready to handshake and say, hey,
just call my agent with that figure.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
We're good. I'm good on that. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, And his agent was like, whoa Macrosby needs to
be paid, Miles Garrett needs to be paid. Why don't
we wait until these guys get paid so then you
can make more? And Mike is like, yeah, whatever, just
I want to be a cowboy. Okay, but well again
it's getting ten percent, doc, He's gonna make sure he
gets his This is how these agents work. That Brent
knows that he has an agent right like these this

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is how it works. You biggest paydays not only for
your client, but because you're gonna make bread too. That's
where it works, man, that's business. So that's Micah. And
so now I bring the question up because this was
also a topic, a heated topic on the text thread.
Was your your your faith in Brian Schottenheimer two games

(40:33):
in right, and I'm trying to tell you a million
times over and tell everybody on Twitter that Brian Schottenheimer
is literally said you're gonna see nothing we're gonna show
you nothing.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
The problem is his nothing has also sucked. So that's
why I think nothing is mostly on Milton. I agree,
you know, I'm on that side. I'm saying the reason
why his all offense looks like complete garbage is because
we are getting not a out of the quarterback play,
Like here's.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
My Evin passes in a row. That's what I was
just gonna say. That's coaching right there. I mean, his
first the first seven plays we ran in preseason was
with Joe Milton throwing like we got it all right.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
So let's let's talk about evaluate him. How you're gonna
evaluate him by handing the ball off?

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Well, we'll not seven times in a row.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I mean, that's a that's another anomaly that nobody.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
It's it's situational calling. Yes, that has to do a coaching.
It's all part of preseason.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yeah, So listen. I mean a good example. And this
is what bothers me about. We're not going to show
him nothing, and that's that. I'm impressed with what the
Bengals did yesterday. They threw everyone out there. Joe Burrow
that too, he was running around. He got killed one
play I don't if.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
A couple of plays, you know, and then then I
don't know if you we've.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
All seen the Troy Aikman clip where he's yelling at
the offensive line. You guys remember that.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, bro, you know you got a head coach that
wants to pat everybody on the ass.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
That's a different one that it's different I'm talking about
when he's yelling at the offensive line, he's walking by
him going, you guys, haven't done ship. You're getting knocked around?
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
This is this is schoolyard ship or whatever.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, good guys. I just found this out. I
just found this out. That was a preseason game.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
That's my point.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
That's what winners do. That's how they act, that's how
they So, I mean, this whole thing with the preseason
all just pre we're just doing that bothers me a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Well, Schottneimer has said that he's not calling he's going
into these meetings and saying these are not preseason games,
like these are not like you.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
You're saying that he's not showing you nothing and that.
But not only that, I've noticed leaving the energy levels down,
the stupid penalties like stuff like that. I am concerned.
Now let's talk about him for a second. What do
we know about him? Well, we know he's the son
of Marty Schottenheimer, right.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Correct, And and and this is where the d LS
those guys Jesse how which we'll have Holly on I
think next week to previous the season, but.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think it was I forget his name.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm drawing a black right now, but he said he's
like your head coach is somebody that no other NFL
team considered him an exis and O's genius to bring
him in and nobody else considered him as a head
coach except for Jerry Jones because he got along with him.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
See that's my issue.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
But now if we go down that road again where
it's Mike McCarthy and Jason Garrett and all.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
This other shit, Philip I kind of did a little
research on this, all right. So his best his best
coaching was offensive coordinator for the Jets with Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
They went to THEFC title game, Yeah, two years in.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
A row, even though their offense was trash, but the
defense carried him with Rex Ryan, that's that. Those were
his best seasons. He worked his way down when I
say that is he when he got to an offensive coordinator,
then he started being Then he worked himself down the
quarterback coach. Then he got again. He got himself down
to where no one wanted him in the NFL. He
went to college. So you know who we played for

(44:01):
in twenty fifteen Georgia. Yeah, I played for a coach. Sorry,
he coached for Georgia in twenty fifteen, Florida. That was Georgia.
So he coached for Georgia in twenty fifteen. He lasted
there one season. Kirby Smart came in, and those who
don't know who Kirby Smart is. He's the head coach
of the Georgia now who's led them to two national titles,
and they've been pretty much a powerhouse since he got there.

(44:23):
The first thing he did was get rid of this guy. Okay,
he comes back to the NFL. He's getting jobs as
passing analysts, you know whatever. Court a defense of what
he was game coordinator, and all of a sudden, he's
the head coach of a team. That's what's making me

(44:44):
raise questions a little bit. You get what I'm saying,
his time is in common. I'm not saying he could
be a great coach, But why the Jets didn't want him,
the Ravens didn't want all these other people didn't want him.
He went to college, got the boot, came back, started
in the videotape room again, and now he's he's the
head coach of the most affluent franchise in the world.

(45:07):
That's why I'm questioning the Milton thing. That's why I'm
questioning some of these things. The only reason why. And
I hope I'm fucking wrong. But my thing is I'm
not giving him shit. Dude. I don't care if he
makes him run when they fight. I don't care what
he says in a press conference. I need to cease.
I need to see it during the season, while the
season's going on, and I'll give you my evaluation of

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this guy at the end of the season. Right now,
there's no evaluation. I'm not jumping on board. I'm not
doing anything. The only thing I'd like is that he
doesn't hold on to his challenge fax.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Right, they're like, Wow, Brian shot on or Firre, that
thing's twenty five yards down the field. For me, I'm like,
who gives a shit? Listen, everything you just said is
absolutely valid. Right, And I've seen him.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
There's ever been a first year head coach to go.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
To Well, I'm not worried about that. It's going to
happen eventually he just.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Helps us, but probably won't be I'm thoroughly waiting for
them to rip my fucking heart out in January again.
But if that, But what I will say is I
agree with you right when it comes to your questions
and your red flags about Brian schot Naimer. Right, Why
wouldn't else Why wouldn't anybody else want him at this point?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Right?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Why isn't anybody banging on the door. Oh, he's the
boy Wonder, he's the he's this guy, He's Sean McVay.
He's he's always he's an offensive guru. Like it's it's
apparent that he has lasted in the league this long.
He's coached under his father, right, Like, that's how long?
And he goes back and the experience factor, and I

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think what it is is it's a it's a it's
a new flavor for the Cowboys. It's not Mike McCarthy.
And I'm not saying McCarthy was bad. We had those
three years in a row. Twelve and five. Right, we're
rocking and roll. We just can't deliver when it means something.
But before that, we had mediocrity with Jason Garrett a
couple of years where we said, you know what, shit,
we could have won the fucking super Bowl in twenty

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fourteen or fifteen, right, Like those are some built rosters.
That's not all Jason Garrett. It's all you know. It's
the GM, it's the scouting team, it's all that shit.
So when I'm looking at Brian schottenneimertin now is is
I don't know why, but I just feel like he's
not the yes man that McCarthy and Garrett are. I
could be completely wrong, and I'm not saying that he's

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gonna come out here like a gangbuster and just completely
blow the doors off some teams with this.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
You're just saying you don't think he's a yes man.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, I just don't think he's a pushover like the
previous t was a yes man. I do because you
know what, remember when McCarthy got fired out of Green Bay, right,
he took a year off, Nobody was nobody was asking
for Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys did the Cowboys. Jerry Jones,
like I can get along with him. He seems nice,

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Like he interviewed for the j he interviewed for The
Fucking Joe.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
You know, you could say the same thing about Parcels.
Though Parcelles was out of the league and then he
wasn't coaching when he came back.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
To the Cowboy Barcels, Parcels was one of the most
one of the most the one of the greatest coaches.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Maybe ever.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
No, I'm just saying now, but I'm at you know,
bring him, Yeah, but I'm just saying, no, I'm at Parcels.
I'm not. Parcels was not a yes man.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I think and I think there's something to it. And
maybe I'm just again, I could be looking too far
into this, but maybe there's something to the fact that
like McCarthy won a Super Bowl in twenty eleven in Dallas,
right like with the with the Packers, I feel like
there was too much of like I've done this before, guys,
I know what I'm doing, and you know what I mean.
And now and now you have a Brian Schottenneimer who

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hasn't won Dick ever as a head coach. He's never
been a head coach. I'm kind of giving him the
benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying he's gonna be
out there and we're gonna go seventeen.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
To Yeah, we don't have a choice.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Well that too, I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Just doubt.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, I've got mid season for him here, folks.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I doubt.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I am doubting more than I am yes, saying a fitting.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I think.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I think doubt's the wrong word. I think doubt's the
wrong word.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
In Shoty's defense, you know, he doesn't have his full roster.
He's got a jam.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I call him Shoty.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
I always put it in parentheses. He doesn't have his
full roster, he doesn't have h He's got a guy
that's you know, he was banking on having that's not signed.
You know, he's got all of his weapons now on
I R. I mean, you know on uh listen, you're

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not coming back to week seven. So we're asking a
lot of him too, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I mean it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting,
you know.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Really sorry, he starts really quick. Brett without looking it up,
what was our record last year? We sucked last year?
What was our record nine and whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Wings you were being grace.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
But that's what's funny is like I when I looked up,
I saw we were seven and ten. I'm like, for
some reason, I thought we were worse. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
You know why, because we were seven games. You know
what the problem was, you know the problem was. And
this is not a problem to me because you know
how we felt last year. We were winning a lot
of games that didn't really matter last year, like towards
the back end, we're if we could just win this
one and and uh, and the.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Game gets to the New Orleans game to me, was
nor the one that gets to me, The one that
gets to me the most is the Bengals game.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Dude, I just said the Bengals, Yeah, that really hurts.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
That could have propelled us to a win streak to
maybe get in the playoffs. That No, no, I'm not
saying what hurt us. There was a lot of games
that hurt us that when I watched that New Orleans game,
and that was the indicator that it was going to
be a long season because that what we saw against
Green Bay, I mean against Cleveland and the opener defense
was flying, but our fence couldn't move the damn chains.

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And then then we went against the Saints and you
saw our defense was just getting scored at will. And
and then I'm like, well, maybe New Orleans is such
a great team that they're gonna be awesome, and and
they were dog shit and our offense couldn't move the
dam I.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Would give you, I would give you.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I would give you one hundred guesses for a hundred
thousand dollars. Brett without googling, who is starting quarterback for
the New Orleans Saints this year?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
You know, there's not a lot of people got to him.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
It's got to be him.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Was it the Giants quarterback? No, No, I don't know.
They haven't said it yet, but I think it's gonna
be Tyler Howe whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be blow or blow or whatever.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
You know, said Kellen Moore is actually the best quarterback
on the team right now. How funny is that.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
He's gonna pull a Roger Doran's like at nine to
twenty six a M I activated myself.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
But you know what's funny too, is that I remember
after the Cleveland game. Remember before the Cleveland game, I.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Said you were winning the Super Bowl. After before the.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Cleveland game, I came down on our defense saying, I
don't I got to see it. We're gonna We're gonna
get ran over to suck. And then I had to
come and publicly apologize after week one because I was like,
I was wrong, They're they're good because in our line,
the Browns though, we're gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
On week two, Keith like I was wrong, They're gonna
be good?

Speaker 4 (52:27):
How good we thought the Browns were going to be in.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Every team Listen to their credit, the Ravens had a
fucking fantastic gear. So like you know, they beat the
ship out of us, and we deserved every ounce of that.
But like the other teams that that's the one. Those
are those are the ones that that grind us a
little bit where it's like, you know what, that team's
stunk and there's no reason.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
When I was watching that Saints game, I know, I
know you guys came out on me for that, but
came at me, not came on me.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Pause.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
There's just was no cohes I.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Came on after the Browns game, Dude, you bring that up,
and that's a we get that.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
But I meant, when our defense gets scored on the
touchdowns the first seven drive, Yeah, but it's it's still
But I couldn't. I mean, it's good that you look
past that and you're looking at the offense. I couldn't
wrap my fucking head defense well, because you know, look,
in order for a team to be well, some some
size of the ball are gonna play bad or worse

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than the other. Not that bad. But what we we
knew we had concerns on defense, right, which we thought
were answered. And then the Saints were just scoring at will.
But our offense still and and that that is going
to be a question because you know, when you have talent,
people tend to overlook it. You know, right when you
have a guy like Ceedee Lamb and and and Dak

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and you had, uh, you know, top tier talent that
everybody's hyped up on what's his name? The running back
Pollard and hey we you know we got the talent,
and then you had the tight end position what was
his not last year? Huh? Yeah? What's is he? How's
he doing?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
He's good? I think it's I think it's yeah, he's good,
all right?

Speaker 4 (54:13):
But what football is such a unique game where everybody
on the field.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
And we've talked about this.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
You have to have at least nine players doing their
job in order for an offensive play to work. And
when you don't have that coheresion or cohesion going that
you know, uh, choreographed play of you know, like the
synchronized swimming. If they're not all choreographed, if they're not
on the same page, that's that's a problem too. And

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that all comes from coaching, you know, and and it
and it comes from these guys needed to be where
they were, and it just it just was a ship show.
It just seemed like it was just all over the place.
Lips is like against Washington or who will be good
this year? It is going to be I think they'll
be good this year. So I'm looking and I'm looking
at that Saints game right now. The first six I

(55:05):
hung up.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
On the fucking Saints game.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
The first six strides of that game, we scored on
five of those.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, we were.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
True field goal, eighty yard field goal, field field goal,
field goal, field goal, touchdown, field goal, field goal.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, I dare, Yeah, it was sixteen.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
It was sixteen. We had scored sixteen points in the
first half that game.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
And then I dare ready to kick it off and
have it land in the in the landing zone and
go into the and give us a forty yard touchback.
You're all fucked. We're getting three no matter what.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Yeah, I know, that's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Aubrey's gonna kick the ship out of that ball this year,
bright Spot. That's unbelievable. All right.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
So look we're heading into the Atlanta game, last game
of this of the preseason.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
What are we too, man? I mean, everybody looks bad
right now. Nobody actually, yeah, yeah, that's right now, Keith.
What are we looking for?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
We got position battles, we got possibly Jaden Blue coming
back to get his first live wrap. The running back
room is very interesting right now because Javante is not
dressed in the first two, meaning that number one running
back spot looks to be Javonte Williams to have.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
I don't understand that at all.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I don't really understand that.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Go ahead, I was gonna say, I don't really understand
that either, considering he's coming off injury too, or at
least a little bit of backed up injury.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I haven't approven one yet either. It's like, what is
this It's not like we got Derreck Henry or or
someone that's Josh Jacobs, someone that's been around.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
I mean, we got there Henry at home. It's I agree.
I agree.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Wait for Williams to come after you. Oh you guys
are in trouble.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Well, listen when he was on, When he was on,
he had himself a couple of fantastic seasons. But he
did No, he really did. He He's a very capable
bell cow running back. When he's going, you just gotta stay.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Has he rushed for over a thousand yards once?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, Gravanti Williams two years ago.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, pre injury, hold on
Jervonte Williams. Uh, pre injury, he was definitely a lot better.
Uh all right, maybe we didn't. But no, no, no, no,
he didn't.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
But they're treating it like he's some kind of like
like he's freaking like why isn't he playing?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Like what?

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Honestly when he got hurt. I'll be honest with you, buddy,
I'll be honest with you. I'd start, I'd start our
young guys, I'd start and brew those are the guys.
I even text in the group, what the hell is
Miles Sanders doing in there? And I know he needed burn.
We know what he is. His NFL legs are gone.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
When I say his NFL legs are gone, a lot
of these guys after they get off the NFL high,
they lose a step some of them. Some of them,
yeah exactly, Zeke's want him. Some of them don't, like
Sakuan and Derrick Henry, but most of them do. Miles
Sanders is and that I don't care how Jackie is now.
I don't care what he looks like. Get him out,
Get those young legs in there.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You want to agree, I want to run the football
on Friday. I want, I want.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
I don't want Williams, I don't want uh Sanders. Those
are the guys I want. I want the young backs
to play. What about Malik look good?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Like?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Uh like he was running?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
But think about that?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
And someone brought that you Kay's kind of brought it
up on the last show, but you really didn't nail it.
He he did it because he's he's playing for a job.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like what do you if he if
he gets a contract? Is he running like that in
week five after he's been hit fifty times fair. That's
what you gotta look at, you know what I'm saying
things like that, whereas these young guys they're on during

(58:27):
rookie contracts or they still got fresh legs or still
on that NFL. Holy shit, I've been drewing this my
whole life. Man. I'm on Sunday night next week. I
can't wait to be on Sunday Night. I'm gonna fucking
run over the Eagles like ship like that, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I would say, well, it's.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Gonna be the headline that's going to be the headline
on Friday morning after we beat the Eagles is that
the Eagles are feeling blue and it's because Jayden Blue
rushed for Buck six like that, Like this is I
gotta shanner. Eagles fans, hang your fucking banner. We're coming
for your throats.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
It's all.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
They did that ship on purpose.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Of course they did because.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
They're smarter, bullshit Giants prime example. Yeah, that's a different tea.
You know who scored fucking three touchdowns that Kevin an overtree.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
So I was gonna say I was gonna say that. Uh,
my evaluation this game is one thing Danucci. You think
he's gonna let's say he plays a lot plays take
the under over to win this game six three thirty
six and a half. Right now, Oh, if both of
those guys are playing, there's no offensive touchdowns gone, there's

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field goals, maybe maybe a pick six on each side.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Give me something out of the receivers.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Give me a running game. That's what I want to see,
establishing tempo. That's eas evaluation to take the under.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I like that. Let's do that.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I want to see the linebackers fly around the ball again.
I want to get some fucking pressure up in the
interior defensive line. We'll see how many snaps some of
these guys get. Will find out, we'll reevaluate this.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
And and again, you know we week three of preseasons
when they make the team. One person that made the team,
I think one person and I discussed on my memory
Hunter Lipke, he did not have a great preseason to
that third preseason game a couple of years ago, and
I think that is what and obviously Deuce had had
that that's been keeping him in as well. But I

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meant this preseason game, the third preseason game, is what
kept people like Turbine and all these players that are
that that you know that can excel in that last game.
It's almost like, you know, the last thing that you remember, right, yeah,
you know, like, oh, the last thing I remember from
this guy is him blowing it up on the third
game of preseason. So don't forget tell me if yes,

(01:00:45):
let me tell you something. If Milton threw for three
hundred yards this game, we're going to be talking differently.
Even for Lets you say he throws for over fifty yards.
We'll start there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Let's say he completes two passes in a row. Then
we're talking, fucking, we're talking. We're fine, We're fine at quarterback,
back up, quarterback, Just complete two passes in a row.
A right, guys, All right, ladies and gentlemen. This has
been another episode of the Jersey Boys podcast. Get Yourself
Involved on Friday Night. We'll talk about the cuts next
week for Dave Stercio, the disappearing act that Keith Urnst is,

(01:01:17):
and of course veterans. We will talk to you guys
next week and of course, as always, get at everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Good. Eight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Hey, this is Tony Soprano and you're listening to Jersey
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I mean, I can give a shit about the Cowboys
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