July 16, 2025 • 72 mins
In the first hour, Jesse Jr was solo in his history lesson on African-American representation in Congress and in the Senate. With the threat of the Supreme Court’s Lack of protection for the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and Trump support of a Texas redistricting effort, Jesse painted a very clear picture that is the history of our country and reconstruction and deconstruction. There is an existential threat for African Americans electability in redrawn districts, perhaps eliminating Blacks and other minorities from being members of the nation’s legislative body if we cannot thwart these efforts. In the second hour, Jesse was joined by Atty. Barbara Arnwine, host of Tenacious Tuesday’s “On the Grind.“ As well, Policy Director, Liz King, from The Conference on Civil and Equal Rights joined an amazing discussion on the SCOTUS nod to gut the Department of Education. Covering several topics that citizens need to fight, Arnwine was joined in a call to participate in The Coalition for Transformative Justice’s national “Good Trouble” event on this Thursday. Visit their website for more details.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So many people ask me about how to love yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
How do you love yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Louis, cause I talk about it all the time. So
I made a list of how to love yourself, and
it's even in poster and postcard form now.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
But number one on that list.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Of how to love yourself is to stop all criticism.
Just stop it now and forevermore, and make a vow
to yourself that you're going to do your very best
from now on to stop criticizing Number one, you and
then other people. It'll be a lot easier to stop
criticizing other people when you stop criticizing yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Number two on that list is stop scaring yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And here we go into fear.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How often do you terrorize yourself with your own thoughts?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hm, you get into.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Absolute terror and it's only coming from your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nobody out there is doing a thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Sometimes it's an old family pattern. Sometimes we get new things.
People here are absolutely in terror of earthquakes. And how
often do you do that to yourself? You know, we
find so many ways.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
To scare ourselves.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I would like people, when you have time to make
a list of your fears. Make a list of your
fears and then give yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The opportunity to turn each fear.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Into a positive affirmation, turn each one into something positive, and.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Remember always you are in charge.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You are always in charge. See one idle thought doesn't
make a whole lot of difference. It's like a but
thoughts are like drops of water. You drop a drop
of water on the table here and it doesn't mean much.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But if you keep dropping, and keep dropping and treat.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Dropping get the table becomes a wash, and then you
get a puddle on the floor, and then you can
get a little pond and a lake, and finally you
can create an ocean. And with our own thoughts, we
can drowned in a sea of negativity or we can
float on the ocean of life.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And it's up to us.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The thoughts we think accumulate. And what sort of puddles
are you standing in?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or are you up to here?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Or are you up to here and trying to paddle?
You know, what are you doing to yourself? When we're
willing to change our thinking, we can change our experiences.
And it doesn't matter if you've got a big puddle
of negative thoughts, you know you can move over here
and create a puddle of mindless positive thoughts.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You can make changes.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Ow oooh, whoever that was is cooking? Who is that?
Louise Hey, legendary hay House Publishing, Louise Hey, Louise hay
is on complete fire. Before I get into the topic, though,
that editorial just blew me away. Listen, I was ray
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in Altadena. In Pasadena, man, man, I'm there twice a week.
You know, I shout out to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty,
Dominique Uprima, Tavis Smiley and everybody else who asked me, man,
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how are your brothers? Because remember I told you guys
they were missing during that whole firestorm situation. And I'm
back in Pasadena twice a week, and I meet up
with my oldest brother who is homeless, and you know,
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I sit with him, I feed him, you know, I
give him money. And and when I'm done with my
business in Pasadena, before I leave, I always shoot up
Lake Street, you know, past my mom's old crib, past
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doctor Russell's home which was burned to the ground, past
Elliott Middle School which was burned. And I go all
the way up, all the way up to the mountain.
And what's crazy is as you're driving up Lake Street,
the burn scar is still there. I mean you see
it on the mountain, the mountain literally where there was
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once trees and foliage and you know all of that
kind of stuff. It's just dirt that was burnt to
the ground. So yeah, Altadena, Pasadena, the residents. I still
have my family who lost homes. You know, my homeboy,
James Broadway, childhood friend, you know, legendary music producer, hip
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hop producer, and former an R. He lost his home.
But yeah, man, I go up and I make that
drive through the neighborhood and it's gone. It's literally gone.
And I'm not going to get into, you know, some
of the discussions that me and my friends have had
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about people trying to take advantage. But that's a real thing,
and so that, yeah, that editorial just touched me, like
in a real way. Yeah. Yeah, So keep your prayer,
keep praying for Altadena. And I know that there are
places all over the country that are struggling, like Texas
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that flood that killed like a hundred and thirty, like
one hundred and forty people, most of them kids. I mean,
you know, the country is going through some difficult times.
So yeah, just keep the country and prayer and Los
Angelinos please pray for Pasadena for shure. Did you know
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I just found out that uh Rodney King, the famous
guy who got beat he went to pass He went
to John Mure High Pasadena. I'm like, yo, man, Auntela says,
they're still finding people. Yeah, so it's a beautiful legacy
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in Altadena, Black Altadena. You know Pasadena. We're all if
you're from there, you understand that there is Pasadena Altadena. Yeah,
there's slight differences, but not really. We all go to
school together. We all went to different schools and same
schools and transferred to school like if you from Dina,
which is Pasadena and Altadena collectively, if you from Dina,
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we all like connected that way. So yeah, let me
move on to my topic, because Louise Hay was absolutely cooking,
and please understand the severity and the importance of relationship.
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We're getting geared up to do our second series, and
the second series is the opposite of the first series.
The first series we did maybe three weeks ago. It
was a two week long series, eight episodes, and it
talked about the spiritual nature of relationship and the reason
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why I found that important to do is because I'm
always saying relationships are inherently spiritual. It's just that the
social side gets more burn than the spiritual side. People
see the spiritual side as woo woo or not scientifically supported.
We debunked all of that last it was two weeks ago. Now,
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we debunked all of that, and we had a two
week run where it's nothing but fire spiritual laws as
they pertain to relationships, and not necessarily dogmatic or dogma based,
but more metaphysical and spiritual. Right. It was heavy, so
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not so much religious, but more spiritual. It was a
heavy series. We have an entirely different kind of series
coming and when y'all hear this series, oh my god,
y'all aint gonna know what to do. But tonight's topic
and based on what Louise Hay broke down, it's important
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that we understand why we're in a relationship, why we
are attracted to whom we are attracted to. Many of
us are just looking for connection without understanding that with
a connection comes instructions for correction. Now, the instruction for
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correction is not correction of the other, it's correction of self.
Many of us get lost, we think the person has
to adjust. The person has to change. I'm gonna get deep.
The only reason why you need your needs met is
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because you haven't healed your wounds. That's the only reason
why everybody is running around talking about you gotta meet
my needs. Well, somebody didn't meet your needs in early childhood,
and unconsciously you take the same unmet needs into your
adult relationship with the expressed or silent contract of my
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partner has to finish the job. This is not how
it works. This is not how it works. Tonight's topics
psychic wounds, you are who your wounds say you are?
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Who is saying I deserve you or your wounds? I
deserve better, I deserve more than that, I deserve the best.
Are you saying that? Or are your unhealed wound saying that?
Psychic wounds? You are who your wounds say you are?
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An intriguing look at the spiritually transmitted disease STD of criticism, condescension, judgment,
and overall dissatisfaction. An ontological assault on the fragile psyche
you mistake for selhood. Let's stop playing cute with our trauma.
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Let's stop romanticizing ruin the you you present to the world,
the one in love, the one that's currently healing, the
one working on it isn't really you at all. It
is a composite of psychic scar tissue, cleverly camouflaged in
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spiritual lingo, childhood wounding, and performative growth. What if your
entire identity is just a haunted echo of unresolved abandonment,
dressed up in adult language and desire. The great poet
Roomy once wrote, the wound is where the place the
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light enters you. But let me tell you something. You've
turned that into an elaborate and colorful tattoo, not the
absolute truth of your being. All this because the light
doesn't really entered through passive suffering. It forces its way
in through the psychic demolition of your false self. If
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your wound is still the story you're leading with, then
the light hasn't entered you at all. You've mistaken your
scar for your soul. As one of my favorite teachers
and philosophers spoke on that would be doctor David R. Hawkins.
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He said, pain is the price of holding on to
your ego. But we wear our pain like a crown,
a compensatory halo that justifies judgment, control, entitlement, superiority, and
chronic Duka dissatisfaction. You really don't want to heal I
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eb in alignment. What you want is to be right
at all costs. You don't want true psychological nudity, I
eat intimacy. You want control disguised in superficial connection. When
I come forward, if you think I haven't gotten started,
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you're absolutely right, I haven't. We got much more to
talk about.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
One of the very common outcomes when we start to
first practice self compassion, particularly if we have a strong
inner critic, and that is the term backdraft. And this
is based on firefighting principles that if you have a
fire and you open the door to the fire, the
oxygen flames the fire and gets bigger when you offer
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yourself unconditional love, when you offer yourself compassion, it will
open the door to a history of not feeling loved,
to a history of not experiencing compassion, to experiences of
grief of greater in a critic. So it's actually, whilst
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on the surface it sounds like this is a lovely
thing to do office self compassion, it is actually quite
genuinely one of the hardest tasks for us to do
is to develop a self compassionate voice.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You are who your wound says you are. I know
it's hard to hear that you are who your wound
says you are. Andy, Who was the young lady speaking
the young lady that we just heard? Who was that speakingly?
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Doctor Emily, You are who your wound says you are
until you take the voice from your wound. And you
could only do that through love, through accepting of the wound.
Most of us suppress, repress, try to ignore. We don't
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want to deal with it. You are who your wound
says you are. This takes what Maya Angelou says and
flips it on its head. When Maya Angelou says, when
that person shows you who they are, believe them. But
relationship is a mirror. When that person shows you who
you are, you should believe them as well. You should
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believe the reflection of yourself that's coming from that person,
as well as believe the projection that's coming from that person,
the projection of themselves. Believe it. I keep trying to
tell you, you're not wounded. You're merely possessed by toxic
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past patterns. You struggle to break free from by ancestral
grief Rothchild by bet Wrothchild, right by energetic fragmentation Thomas
Campbell by karmic frequencies. Your nervous system still confuses as
home Rosenberg. You don't love them, You don't recognize their
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Excuse me, you don't love them, You recognize their dysfunction.
That's why you call it chemistry. Your psychic wound is
not a metaphor. It is a program, a looping, limbic
embodied spell, a bio energetic addiction to familiarity. But beet Rothschild.
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You're not in love. You're in limbic reenactment, and you
are not attracted to them. You are trying to complete
a sentence. Your inner child was never allowed to utter
in your life. It's been scripted by pain, rehearsed and guilt,
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apathy and shame, and performed as pseudo riteous. You think
you're choosing partners, friends, and lovers. You are not. You're
choosing energetically and magnetically summoned mirrors, high frequency projections of
your disowned shame asking to be met or reenacted, criticism, judgment, condescension.
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These aren't bad habits. They are spiritual diseases STDs. Spiritually
transmitted delusions pass from generation to generation, from polepit to
therapists couch, from broken parent to broken child. They are
weapons your ego, inherited to punish reality for not rescuing
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you in time. When I come forward, I'm gonna tell
you again, don't let your wounds tell you who you are.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Just adjusted to what life presented to you. You became
a parent, so you just kept going. Lost something so
you kept moving. You know, you changed rolls, shifted seasons,
survived depression, but you never stopped to ask at what costs.
Most of us pick up and keep moving.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
We tell ourselves, no hold on, sister, Raquel is cooking,
Raquel Hopkins, bring it back and listen to what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Just adjusted to what life presented to you. You became
a parent, so you just kept going. You lost something,
so you kept moving. You know you changed rolls, shifted seasons,
survived depression, but you never stopped to ask at what costs.
Most of us pick up and keep moving. We tell
ourselves life isn't supposed to be easy, so we don't
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question what's harmful. We just call it normal, and that's
not capacity. That's Autopilotte. It's not that you never had
space to grow. It's that you never thought you needed
to choose. You didn't know slowing down, processing and rebuilding
internally was a part of the assignment. Real capacity isn't
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just built by surviving life's transitions, right, It's built by
becoming more conscious in them. It's built when you choose
clarity over chaos, when you stop carrying everything and start
asking who am I now? Who do I want to
be next? If you're tired, you're not tired because you've
had too much capacity. You're tired because you've carried too
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much without ever consciously developing your capacity. You adjust it,
you adapt it. You survived, but you didn't pause to
build a mental, emotional, and internal strength to hold what
life kept.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
She's talking about psychological weightlifting. That's it. You didn't build
the muscle to deal with life. So many people think
their partner should be the answer for the work they
didn't do. Listen, my partner comes in makes it all good.
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I just need somebody to love on me. I just
need somebody to hug me from time to time. And yes,
that's cool, But if you don't know how to love yourself.
If you don't know how to hug yourself, if you
don't know how to accept yourself, if you don't how
to approve of yourself, if you don't know how to
validate yourself, you're just an addict. That's what it is.
Your wound, right, that's who you are. Your wound tells
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you who you are now unless you heal the wound.
How do we heal the wound? Right? Man, I was
sitting in a cigar lounge over the weekend talking to
a young lady. Within five minutes, she's crying because again,
she's never really processed or dealt with any of these issues.
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Do you understand we struggle in relationships because we think
the relationship will give us the answer we want versus
the answer we actually need. See, the relationship is going
to give you the answer you need, not the answer
you want. When you get the answer you need, you
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think the relationship is a failure, when in fact, the
relationship actually gave you the keys to yourself. Do you
see your wounds tell the world who you are. You
have to take the voice from the wound, right, you
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have to become the metatron for self? Right? Ross Rossenberg
warns of the self love deficient disorder SLDD. And that's
precisely what I just described. Every compliment, projection, and diagnosis
issue is an SOS from the unparented child inside of
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you who believes that love must be earned through suffering.
No capacity is earned through understanding why you go through suffering.
Many of us have just gotten tired. We've given birth
to a generation that they see learning and developing the
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capacity as part of the problem. No life is always
going to be difficult. You live on a planet where
the tectonic plates are still moving. You live on a
planet where weather can wipe out whole populations. You live
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in a dangerous place, But yet you want your relationships
to always be peaceful. Well, excuse me, quiet? Quiet is
the term? Right? Do you understand? You don't want to
be loved. You want to be seen as the one
who sees it's your final power play before the identity collapses,
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And yet you cling to separation like a drug. You
call your isolation discernment, you call your trauma instinct, you
call your criticism boundaries. But beneath it all, you're just
terrified of proximity, of peace, of being fully seen and
not needing your wound as proof you exist. And let's
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be devastatingly honest right here. You don't attract narcissists. You
attract frequencies. Listen, it is you attract frequency matches to
the parents you couldn't save, the broken parents you still
love who abandoned you in some way, not because you're broken,
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but because your nervous system was wired to confuse chaos
with home. You don't want to heal them. You want
to be the savior, the savior they beg not to leave.
It's not compassion, it's codependent martyrdom in a spiritual robe.
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Do you understand? I'm sorry? And, like Eckhart Toole once said,
healing is not a morning ritual, a journaling prompt, or
a spiritual bath. It is violent spiritual surgery, a tearing
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away of every adaptive pattern you've mistaken for purpose. It
is the shat of the mirror, the dissolution of the echo,
the radical refusal to reenact your wound as love, your
pain as personality, your judgment as truth. So I ask
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you again, who are you without the story of your suffering?
What dies in you when you stop needing to be
wounded to be valid. What part of you still finds
your identity in the echo of your pain. Don't do
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me like they did me. Don't treat me like they
treated me. And what sacred madness are you willing to
walk through to finally be free? Because you are who
your wound says you are until you rip out its tongue.
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Only then the light will enter the light that roomy of.
Only then can the light enter the wound and enlighten
the wound right, not gently, not kindly, but mercilessly, illuminating
every place you've hidden behind a trauma you've long mistaken
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for who you are. When I come forward, I promise
I get to the phone lines. Listen, I want to
talk to everybody. Are you who your wound says you are?
Does your wound your unhealed wounds identify you? When we
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come forward, we're going to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
If your entire healing journey reads like a dissertation on
everyone else's dysfunction while your own patterns get swept under
the rug, I hate to break it to you, but
that ain't healing. There's this pattern where everyone's got their
ex perfectly categorized as emotionally unavailable or a narcissist. We've
all become experts analyzing everyone else's dysfunctions, but faced with
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examining our own patterns and behaviors, suddenly we develop amnesia.
You might have heard of cognitive dissonance, where we rewrite
reality when it gets uncomfortable because admitting we participated threatens
our self image. So yeah, casting everyone else as the
villain helps us sleep at night, but it also keeps
us from getting curious about the harder questions. Look, sometimes
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people really are harmful. But if every single person in
your story is the problem except you, that's not how
relationships work, even the dysfunctional ones. We spend years perfecting
our analysis of everyone else's issues while our own patterns
run the show in the background, completely unexamined. The real
healing happens when we stop perfecting our trauma stories and
start getting curious. What draws us to emotionally unavailable people?
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How do we abandon ourselves to maintain connection? What part
of us do they mirror? Because repeating the same dynamics
with different people while armed with better vocabulary isn't growth,
It's just intellectualized trauma.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Hey man, dog Man, back at it again. I love
dog Man. Is the dog's name Lenny? Is that the
dog's name, Lenny? Listen Man, dog Man, that little cartoon man.
He cooks every single time. The Voice of Reason Life
from KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. We are on complete fire tonight.
Your wound right tells you who you are. Your wound
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tells you who you are? Is that true? I'm interested
to know you are who your wound, who your wounds
say you are?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You are who your wounds say you are? Is this
not true? I'd like to know. If all pain speaks
in the language of unmet needs, what does chronic criticism
silently beg for? Can the impulse to judge emerge as
a nervous system's attempt to stabilize itself in the face
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of emotional ambiguity. Might the need to fix others be
a disguised grief for the parts of oneself left unmet.
If trauma encodes time as danger, how does intimacy threaten
the survivor's sense of safety by collapsing chronology. Does your
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preference for truth serve your healing or merely preserve your
identity as the one who sees clearly? What if your
loyalty to emotional pain feels safer than the vulnerability of
peace that comes from peace. Can an insecure attachment be
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seen not as a disorder, but as a precise adaptation
to energetic inconsistency. Man, your wounds, they gonna tell you, y'all. Now,
all right, let's get these callers in here. My friend,
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your friend always a friend of the show, Our brother
j W from South central Los Angeles, Jay Dub, what
are your thoughts on tonight's topic?
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 10 (30:18):
My road?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I'm alive, all my friend? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
Well, you know, I have questions. Okay, For example, since
I'm single, I'm assuming this applies to relatives or friends
or co workers as well as maybe your mate. Am
I right or wrong in terms of how you react with people? Yeah,
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that's what I thought. That's still exactly what I thought. Okay,
So now let me move forward. Some things terrify me
because I can see some traits in myself how I
had changed, and then some things still remain. And one
thing that really bothers me, I guess I bury my
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uh trauma or my pain or my past so far
down I never realized or wasn't aware that I haunt
these womt or forgotten about them. And when you bring
up very's just some issues and topics. You make me
realize I have to be straight and I can identify
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with what to be saying. And it makes you wonder because, uh,
you know, I haven't been dating, so I haven't met
someone else where. You know, misery loves company and that
like you said, that chemical or extrust, the natural aw
the ANERGI drives you to that other person that's mirror
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yourself and et cetera.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
And then since I referenced that, uh, when you look
at the mirror and in this industry, yourself and when
you say what you have to do, I think about
Michael Jackson. If you want to change the world, start yourself,
and you look at a man in the mirror and
sold yourself and change your mind.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
So let's do that. Mind sh Wait, So let's do
that because I like where you're going with this. Uh, Andy,
can you put man in the mirror instrumental on in
the background while I talk to my brother? So I
got a question. Let's let's let's face the man, the
man in the mirror. Right now, let's do.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
That right now, I'm all ears. I'm all ears.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
So in all of your relational experiences, I have a
serious question to ask you, do you love or do
you reenact? If you were to look at if you
were to look at all your relationships, what were you
reenacting or were you in love? Do you love or
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do you reenact?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
I understand your question. I will say it's a combination
of both. And because of various different situations, such as
my high school sweetheart, I fought myself really falling in
love with her, But yeah, I think the molds are incorrect,
and so I was reenacting. Same with other women I
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have been with, like the woman I shouldn't marry and
didn't marry and went to another woman and married. I
felt that was my punishmentary out there, and the woman
I should have married. And so yes, it's a combination
of both. Say with roses and friends, there's a combination
of the molar or the nature of the situation, if
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you follow my play.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So wait, let me stop you now. If it's both,
why are you reenacting for what purpose are you reenacting?
Are you reenacting to feel safe or are you reenacting
to bring whatever that reenactment is back up to the
surface so you can reconcile it, so you can break
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that pattern. Are you doing it for that purpose? Are
you even conscious of the reenactment.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
I'm not even conscious of it most of the time.
You bring up subject matters such as this. But if
I and where I do reenact, and I know I'm
intentionally doing I know mots are incorrect, and I'm doing
it just because I'm trying to relate or accomplish something
that i want.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yikes, Hey man, stay here, don't go nowhere, Ja doub,
Stay right here, don't go nowhere, JDub. We got time today.
Stay right here, JDub. When we come forward more from
South Central Los Angeles.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
I'm always curious to ask this question about actors. When
you tap into any emotion, have you acknowledged that emotion
as real or fake?
Speaker 12 (34:45):
It's always real. I'm always looking to tell the truth.
But how close can I get to the truth? You
know what I mean? That's like every role I take,
every opportunity I get, I'm just trying to tell the truth.
It ain't I'm not really acting no more. When I'm
on screen, I'm telling the truth, you know. And I
feel like in my position too.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It can.
Speaker 12 (35:05):
I don't know, man, I get I get asked a
lot about being put in a box, like you feel
like you're gonna get put in a box. And for me,
I feel like I played different. I feel like I
play different characters. But for some reason, I feel like
everybody sees me at as one thing, you know, And
I don't know how to feel about it, because I mean,
even when my first acting class I took in LA,
they had this exercise. What it's the first day, first
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day of class, and you have all these actors in there,
and then she sit a chair in the front of
the room, boom, and she said, all right, you come here,
sit right here.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
This is me.
Speaker 12 (35:39):
I'm sitting in a chair back towards the whole crowd.
All right, y'all, I want y'all to tell this guy
what y'all see in mass. So I'm sitting in the chair.
Everybody's saying bad boy, uh, the thug, the killer. I'm
hearing this stuff. They don't know me, you know what
(35:59):
I mean, he and this stuff. And she's like, all right, stop,
She's like, already, turn around, introduce yourselves.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I turned around. I'm like I'm like Woodie nice to
meet y'all. Everybody.
Speaker 12 (36:11):
Everybody's laughing. Turn back around, all right, what y'all see
him as? Oh he's a nice guy, he's the sweet
guy he's But that moment made me realize people judge
you before you even talk, before you even say something,
you know what I mean. So I was before I
was just picking.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
This is very interesting, the whole Thesbian piece becoming something. Listen,
when you're wounded, I listen to what I'm about to say.
I believe that wounded people are the greatest actors. Do
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you understand, greatest musicians, greatest comedians. Listen, that wound is
gonna call you to perform. I know people don't want
to hear it put that way, but that's what it is.
(37:10):
You're a damn method actor in your relationship. Well, they
got the money I was looking for. They might not
have everything else. They might not have the emotional attunement,
they might not have the spiritual acumen, but you know what,
they represent a certain level of safety and they cool enough.
(37:31):
I guess I could get there with them at some point.
I could fake it until it becomes real. Today's topic
man Psychic wounds and the spiritually transmitted disease of judgment.
Do you see in the shadow lens of human intimacy?
(37:57):
We often mistake connection for communion, trauma for truth, and
reactivity for resonance. But beneath this masterfully you know, curated
choreography of modern relationships, romantic, familial, platonic, whatever version, lurks
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this disowned force field of unmetabolized emotion, ancestral pattering and
inner exiles clamoring for resolution. That's what a relationship is for.
It is for this type of resolution, a reckoning. Every
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relationship is a generational reckoning. We do not relate, We reenact.
Do you really love this person? Or are you re
enacting a wound? Is the wound the Martin Scorsesey of
your relationships, the George Lucas of your relationships? I know
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people don't want to hear it. Put that way. We're
re enacting not because we lack insight, but because we're unconsciously.
But we unconsciously are the wound looking for its reflection.
Let me say, man, one of the greatest compliments somebody
could ever give you is breaking up with you. That's
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their wound telling you you're not compatible. Do you know
how difficult it is to break up with a narcissist?
Do you know how difficult it is to break up
with a codependent? Narcissistic and codependent, Oh, let's keep going. Narcissistic, codependent,
ap anxious, preoccupied, dismissive a voice. Do you know how
difficult those types of relationships are to break up? Their
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damn break up proof because they are familiar with the toxicity.
Breaking up with somebody is a gift. It's typically their
wound sin. Hey, there's no supply here. Do you understand
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this episode tonight? We're trying to explore the radical proposition
that you or who your wounds say you are until
you're not. A psychic wound is not merely a historical injury.
It is an ontological distortion, a lens through which all
perception bends. Unlike ordinary emotional pain, psychic wounds are spiritually encrypted.
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They do not fade with time. They replicate. They shape
our syntax, the way we speak. They warp our sense
of self, and they whisper truth through our judgments, criticism,
and compulsive comparisons. Right in the language of internal family
(41:11):
systems by Schwartz. They house protector parts who critique and
condemn to defend against internal annihilation? What is internal annihilation?
Your ego, your sense of self that was partly molded
and crafted by your unhealed wounds. Criticism then may be
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better understood not as hostility, but as grief in drag,
a desperate attempt by a fractured nervous system to stabilize
emotional ambiguity. The need to judge, to categorize, to fix
is not moral discernment, but the residue of a nervous
system trained to appreciate pain. D You see, right, As
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Jania Fisher suggests, trauma collapses, chronology time. The body lives
in a loop of unfinished, unfinished sentences right, reaching through
others for punctuation. Our partner becomes the comma or the
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period to our psychic rerun.
Speaker 13 (42:31):
S.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Gosh, enter the spiritual std criticism. Right, And we're not
talking about constructive criticism, right, I'm talking about put downs, condescension, judgment, dissatisfaction.
These are not mere character flaws, but symptoms of contagious
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psychic virus, a virulent disconnection from source. As doctor David R.
Hawkins might note, these frequencies calibrate low on the scale
of consciousness, perpetuating karmic inertia and obscuring the field of
unified love. Judgment is not discernment. It is the ego
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masquerading as moral clarity to avoid its own surrender. But
what if every judgment you project is merely a holographic
boomerang of a disowned part of yourself. When Krishnamurti insists
that to observe without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence,
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he is not urging passivity, but presence. To drop the
evaluative mind is to stop editing reality through the lens
of past pain. Man, let me get to these callers.
(44:00):
Tonight's topic. Your wound is who you say you are.
Do you believe that somebody can save you from yourself?
We're gonna ask this to the universe. Everybody that's listening
that wants to participate, get to your phone lines. The
number to die one eight one hundred nine twenty fifteen
eighty one, eight hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty again, do
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you really love? Are you in the process of unconditionally
loving someone? Now? If you can't unconditionally love yourself, if
you're still unintegrated or haven't gotten on the process of integration.
I don't think anybody is fully integrated, by the way,
unless you live in the Himalayas and you meditate twenty
four hours a day. But if you haven't gotten on
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the process of integration, if you haven't really committed yourself
to a healing process, right, and I mean holding yourself
accountable while loving yourself, while being empathetic towards your self,
while being compassionate towards yourself, while validating yourself, while approving
of all the dark spaces in your spirit. If you
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haven't gotten on that journey, right, This is deep. Can
you really say you love someone? Do you love them?
Or are you just in another energetic holographic reenactment loop
(45:28):
of past pain. That's a real question one eight hundred
and nine twenty fifteen eight. Do you really love them?
Or are you in a reenactment loop. Let's see who's
brave enough to call in JW South Central. Let me
get you back in here.
Speaker 9 (45:47):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, you make me
think about the blue no suggestion. I guess we are
self brainwashing ourselves and we're not aware of the process,
which is a deep concept. And I think it's because
that's you know, factors. But yeah, this is really deep, bro,
(46:09):
because it makes me realize I have to really be
a critical thinker and realize or stage in my act.
And that's why I'm still seeing because I know I
have to still continue to work for myself. The process
is though, and I need to kick myself in the
button to speed up the process because I'm a better
person than that. And so that's the truth that just
(46:32):
acknowledged right now. And I know we don't have much time,
but you and I will chop it up for the future.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
No, you know, we got a little bit of time here.
This is what.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
Okay, well I'm all the ears. Of course I will
answer you know how I get down j dubb.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Sometimes we get caught up on the terminology. Oh I
want to be a better person. Why not listen to
what I'm about to offer you? Why not? I would
like to be a whole person for me, I got
you d.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
C d C.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Because oftentimes what are we doing. We're trying to get
a partner to complete us. Right, So by going through
this process, you remember, individuation is merging the shadow with
what the mask, Right, That's how you become a whole
person right again? Go ahead, Yes, this is why I'm saying.
(47:26):
If that process hasn't happened, chances are instead of being
in love, what are you actually doing? You're actually re
enacting the past that hasn't been resolved so much. Right,
So my question to you, JW, I'm all here, if
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you could be honest with yourself, can you identify three,
just three aspects of yourself that keep showing up in
these relationships that you know you need to work on,
that you know you need to deal with.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
Yes, sir, And I'm not in a relationship unless you
say I'm a relationship with myself.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Being throughout all the relationships you've been through.
Speaker 10 (48:14):
Man, Okay, now I COMPREHENDI yeah, trying to be right,
thinking that I'm right based on rational common sense.
Speaker 9 (48:27):
That everybody will probably agree that's right. Not just my team,
but what it is normal or common sense. So I'm
trying to rationalize things, and I think I overthink things,
and people will call me like a funking way I know,
or dictionary or things of that nature. You know what
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I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
And so slow down, slow down. Just because you got
you got time tonight, you can slow down a little bit. So, yes, sir,
you said the one thing is your overthinking? Is that
what you said?
Speaker 10 (49:06):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (49:06):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (49:07):
And then what was the other one?
Speaker 9 (49:10):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Could be trying to be right overthinking? What else?
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Yeah? And I have to give some thoughts to that.
I don't think that's an interest by saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
These are things that keep popping up in the relationship.
Speaker 9 (49:27):
Right, Okay? I can I phrase this questioning an issue?
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (49:40):
Or make the point when I'm really not being an
effective communicator?
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Said?
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Okay? Let me stop you. When you say not being
an effective communicator? Does that mean you don't have the words?
Or is it your tone, your delivery or is it
a combination.
Speaker 9 (49:57):
I think it's my emotion and I get by emotional.
That's I've been a problem and I know it has
the priests.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Hold years, No, stay, stay with me, Stay with me, brother,
we got time. I want you to relax. You're not
being rushed tonight. Relax, you said, emotional dysregulation. Sometimes you
get emotional, sometimes you overthink. Right, when we come forward,
we're gonna unpack a few of those things, all right, man?
(50:30):
My brother j W got South Central Los Angeles in
the building.
Speaker 14 (50:34):
Heavy in the zen way or clear minded is a
better way of translating. It is not to have no thoughts.
It is purity clarity in the sense that your mind
isn't sticky, You don't harbor grievances, you don't be attached
to the past. You go with it with life. Life
is flowing all the time. That is the doll, the
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flow of life. You can swim again the stream, but
you'll still be moved along by it, and all you'll
do is wear yourself out in futility. But if you
swim with the stream, the whole strength of the stream
is yours. But suddenly, as it goes, all the past vanishes.
Future has not yet arrived, and there is only one
place to be, which is here.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
And now.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Man Alan Watts is always cooking with the rarest grease,
and I love it. But my brother is on the line,
and I feel like I'm trying to help my brother
Jad South Central Los Angeles. Yes, sir, do you remember
the last question I asked you?
Speaker 8 (51:43):
Sir?
Speaker 9 (51:44):
Yeah, and you hays asked me about First of all,
I'm terrified that was all pasted. Since when I would
try to improve a point, thinking I was being rational
based on what universal correct everybody would agree with, and
then me always trying to go beyond, trying to break
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a conversation. And these were our past problems years ago
when I was married, when my wife had always bring
up right.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
But I need you to stay cognizant of my intent
for asking those questions in the in the first place.
And I'm asking those questions because after you've been through
some relationships and you're a full grown man and you've
had a few of them, I'm asking you to identify
some patterns. Right, This is what journaling can help, right
(52:39):
where you identify, Hey, this is a reoccurring theme that
pops up in my relationships. And I'm asking you have
you seen those not? Have you transact?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And what are they? And you said overthinking? You said
emotional regulation or disregulation and what else?
Speaker 9 (52:58):
And being overbearing and trying to prove a point, you know,
taking them beyond you know, I had always contributed to
human nature being immature, you know, things of that nature
and me and irrationale.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
So what did you do to reconcile those things or
are they still an issue for you?
Speaker 9 (53:19):
Well, like I stated to those three years ago in
early nineties, wrung when twin towers got hit by the planes.
And over the years I contemplated political thinking, you know this,
trying to really dig deepense and trying to realize both
my faults, what what role did I play? Things of
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that nature. That's why I listened to you, because things
that I have already worked through, you bring these issues
up and never realize I'm on the right track, you know, Okay.
Speaker 8 (53:52):
Let me know.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
Of course you still have flaws. But what I'm saying
is this is typically typically I mean yes, at some point,
at a certain level of consciousness, you can you know,
reconcile some of these things, some of these issues on
your own. But however, I like I always suggest to you, brother,
the therapy. You should definitely engage in a therapist, a
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good one and preferably a black.
Speaker 9 (54:20):
I promise you in due time I will. Matter of fact,
I just recently talked to my little cousins that I
brought up. Once she's four, she completed, she has a
doctor's three in psychology. You can go to Yale do
her what do you call it her post or where
she actually works for four years in her practice. Ye
(54:41):
coming home, I don't really need her no with me
in person.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
I got you anyway.
Speaker 9 (54:46):
I'm gonna tell you a therapist man, real talk. I
have called it. Spoke to doctor Sunshine and cool the
other sister doctor. Yes, good, yeah, so such life matters.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yes, my brother, to push forward. I got to push forward.
But I love you and I appreciate you for callin
all right, thank you for bringing South Central in the building. Listen,
if you want to bring your city in your building.
And I got to do is call me at twenty
fifteen eighty. The VR is on fire tonight, let's go.
Speaker 13 (55:14):
That is only a consciousness that comes into being as
we know it when there is an issue. When there
you are, when you are in a conflict of some kind,
both biological as well as psychological.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
As well as you're not.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
This is very important to understand. Those sounds very simple,
it's a very complex thing. A human being is only
conscious when he has some kind of issue, problem, a
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certain quality, oh, fiah, and so on. When there are
none of those, he is not conscious of himself.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
So consciousness he is self centered. Consciousness is self centered.
If he not in conflict, he is not conscious, are you?
In other words, he's not aware Krishna Murti.
Speaker 8 (56:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
We call him Krishna Hurtia around here because that truth
that he dropped is gonna hurt every single time. We've
got callers on the line. I want to get him
in here asap because the phone lines have been a
little wonky. People been calling, couldn't get through. Sorry about that.
John from Mountain View, Hawaii. We love you, we love you,
(56:54):
We love you. Brother. Hopefully we can get it all together,
but we do have some callers. Let's get I'm staying
on point LBC in the house. What are your thoughts
on tonight's topic? Sweetheart?
Speaker 15 (57:07):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (57:08):
Family?
Speaker 15 (57:10):
Just real quick? Either you're gonna stay down or you
gonna lay down.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Oh, please explain it to me. Stay down or lay down?
Come on?
Speaker 15 (57:25):
Okay, everybody has wounds. Okay, great, stay down, meaning stay
ten toes down with making sure that you address them
or you fall victim to them. So you become wound
dependent and your wounds are in front of you, thus
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pushing people away from you and attracting people who like
your wound. So that's your chemistry. Hey, you have the
same womb I have. Let's be friends.
Speaker 4 (58:01):
Wow, or our wounds are on the same frequency and
they relate to each other.
Speaker 15 (58:09):
Yes, so if your wound, if you're more friends with
your wound, then how will you be able to recognize
real love?
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Real love becomes foreign because it's not anything you've ever
had before. It's unrecognizable and you're used to going back
to your norm, even if it's toxic. Oh, I hear you.
I see you cooking with the rarest ingredients right now.
But my question then becomes, when do you take the
voice away from your own unhealed wounds so that they
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can no longer speak for you.
Speaker 15 (58:48):
Well, you got to take that time and sat down somewhere.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Oh what work?
Speaker 15 (58:54):
And sat down somewhere?
Speaker 4 (58:57):
Sat down, Hey, sat down somewhere. Gone, sat not sit down,
she said, sat down somewhere. Go ahead and finish cooking.
Speaker 15 (59:06):
Chap, sat down somewhere. Take that time, even though it hurts.
You're gonna cry. But if you take the time to
unpack it, you'll come out better. But that way your
clarity would be clear.
Speaker 4 (59:25):
No, but you cook him right now. So many people
are afraid of the unpacking process because unpacking is revealing
what was concealed, and oftentimes what is concealed is unconscious,
so it's new to them, so to speak, and it's
a frightening process to do that. How do you stay
steady in that sometimes harrowing, an ugly process of unpacking
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and dealing with in the moment in real time?
Speaker 15 (59:55):
Well for us that was in the excellent masterclass a
cup weeks ago. If you stay connected spiritually.
Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
You know.
Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
You're gonna be tethered to God that in that cave
time I like to call it cave time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Come on.
Speaker 15 (01:00:16):
But if you try to do it yourself, you're gonna
keep sitting in your own field.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Listen, do you know what you're doing to me right now?
You're inspiring me. The work is coming through. This is
reminding me of Zen Buddhism. Have you ever been in
a situation where a person is trying to gauge and
check your temperature to see if you're still into connected
to or have some interest in in order for them
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to open up. It's almost like your level of interest
is the coupon that they want to redeem. Right, let
me redeem this.
Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Oh, they are as interested as I am, So now
I can talk. No, No, listen, what you're saying is
it is really a spiritually evolved person who does not
need that certainty ticket. They're gonna do it because this
is who they are.
Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
Yes, indeed, do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
You see if I want to approach you, I'm not
gonna let my fear dictate how I should do that.
Your fear will say it's predicated on what they say next? Correct?
You see? Oh girl, you cooking? Look a look at
what you I'm staying on point.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
That's her name.
Speaker 10 (01:01:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I don't know who named her, but boy, they named
her right now. I'm staying on point. Who that's that
zen Buddhist quote? Though, you know, leap and the net
will appear. So many people won't leap into their truth
because they need to be certain that there's a net
there that will catch them.
Speaker 15 (01:01:54):
That's true, and then you'll stay at the edge for
a long time wondering why you're movie.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Lord, let me just say this, I love you, Chew.
I'm staying on point. She was on point this evening.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Listen, guess what you just did.
Speaker 15 (01:02:13):
How bought the LBC in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
LBC, you already know what it is if you want
to bring your city in a building, and I you
got to do is call me a one hundred nine
twenty fifteen eighty weel on complete fire tonight when I
come forward, I'm going to Houston, Texas.
Speaker 16 (01:02:25):
We know that falling in love with another person comes naturally.
You see that person, you think they're mysterious and there's
something about them, and you think, Oh, I think I'm
falling for this person.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
It takes no effort. Why is that? Because there's mystery?
Why is it?
Speaker 16 (01:02:39):
In long term relationships, love can sometimes fade. It's because
familiarity breeds contempt. The more familiar you are with someone,
the more likely you are to have contempt for them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Well, who are you going to have more contempt.
Speaker 16 (01:02:51):
For than the person you've spent every second with since
the day you were born?
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Who are you more for me?
Speaker 16 (01:02:59):
So I want to say to everyone right now, if
you have contempt for yourself, welcome to the party. That
is a normal feeling to have with someone you've spent
every minute of your life with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
So self love needs a rebrand.
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Ooh, you've been running from your damn self this whole time,
and you let your wound be your personal PR person.
Your wound is your PR person. I'll speak for him. Listen.
(01:03:37):
He likes blueberries. In his oatmeal and blueberries and strawberries.
He doesn't do honey, he does a gave and pet milk.
You got your wound speaking for you, christ Let me
correct this really quickly. It's not a Zen saying. Many
(01:04:01):
times it is misquoted as being from Zen, but the
quote leap in the net will appear is attributed to
John Burrows. And again, if you know anything about Pasadena culture,
John Burrows I think is in Burbank. And that's a
high school that Pasadena High and John Muir High, which
are Pasadena schools, their rivals, so they play against each
(01:04:24):
other quite often. And the football season is coming up,
and of course you know your brother Zoe Williams is
going to be back in his hometown supporting both high
schools in Pasadena that represent the city. Well, so let
me get to my final caller, Attala from Houston, Texas.
What are your thoughts on tonight's topic Tall.
Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
We cook in? Yeah, Well, that last clip, that last
clip is dope. That's from Matthew Hussey. I don't know
if it's Hussy Halsey. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Matthew Hussy Holsey hosting this Hushy it's Hussy.
Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Yeah, right, because that's how it fels. But let me
just say though, I really love what he said because
I think the focus on how much you love yourself
and the amount of compassion you have with path for
yourself directly correlates with this topic. Like, to me, the
less self compassion you have, the more your wounds would
speak for you, because your wound is your inner critic.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:05:25):
Christian Murty warn't Deep has a really good quote right
where he says, to me, true criticism consists of trying
to find out what the intrinsic work worst of a
saying is and not attributing the quality to that thing.
And it says you attribute a quality to an environment,
to an experience only when you want to derive something
(01:05:47):
from it and you want to gain or have power
or happiness. So I'm like, Okay, what you're saying is
we feel the need to control, so we have to
know that they and we had to have knowledge and
judge that thing, just like we judge our partners in
order to own a piece of them, right or.
Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Or own the supply minds within them. Right. Absolutely, I
don't do them like that child.
Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Well, no, I mean, I just I mean it all
kind of just like came together so seamlessly. But I
think you know, like I said, even with the clips
the way that they conclude in the end, with all
these topics, everything that we say always comes down to
the idea that you have to do your own work. Yes, right,
So if I don't want my wounds speaking for me,
then that means I need to be speaking for me,
and I can only do that through self awareness and capacity.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
But that said, come on, niece, I know you was tired.
I know it's fifty eleven o'clock. Where you listen, Hey, listen,
what did you just do? Sweetheart?
Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
I brought Houston in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Huge st in Texas is in the building. You better
learn from this fire. Gonna put your hand in there
and burn yourself. When Krishna Murti insists that to observe
without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence, he's not
urging passivity, but presence. To drop the evaluative mind is
to stop editing reality through the lens of past pain.
(01:07:22):
In e prime, which is Alfred Korzipsky's creation through general semantics,
think of it this way, he is toxic. Well, that
becomes using e prime, which is English without the verbs
is or to be all right. I experienced thissregulation in
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his presence, not because he is anything, but because I
have not yet befriended the part of me that panics
in his field. This is English prime English without is
or to be. Scientists learned a long time ago we
(01:08:06):
can't really definitively say what anything is right. We can
talk about things in terms of probabilities, but we cannot
for certain say what something is man. This is why
Robert Anton Wilson said in Intimate Relationships, which deals with
psychological wounds, that many people don't even have the emotional
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language to frame pop properly. He said, we should start
using maybe logic. He said, if people in intimate relationships
would use maybe logic more guess what he said, the
world would wake up fifty percent saner the next day.
Because maybe maybe it's this. I'm assuming this is eprime.
I'm assuming that this is what it is. It might
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not be preface your statement with this is how I
see it from my lens, but I could definitely be wrong.
Right from my limited perspective, this is what it appears
like to me. Do you see language as Korzipsky reminds
us is not the territory. It is the map. Do
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you understand it is the map, it is not the reality.
And our maps are smeared with an unintegrated effect, the
unintegration of self. So when you have this unintegrated self,
this unintegrated self is kind of, you know, leaving its
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residue all over everything, so you're not really seeing things clearly.
What then, is the true nature of relationality. It is
not to people connecting, but to trauma fields negotiating safety.
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That's what the average relationship is man the wound, Your
wound PR is speaking to their wound PR and their
negotiating safety within each other's fields. It is not two
people connecting, but two trauma fields negotiating safety. What we
call chemistry is often the matching frequency of unhealed timelines.
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We do not fall in love, we fall into familiar vibrations.
As David Diada proposes, sacred polarity can only arise when
the self is no longer weaponized against intimacy. But to
drop the weapon right, the weapon of the defense mechanism
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is to risk the vulnerability of peace, something many of
us have never known. Perhaps your soulmate is not your healer,
but your highlighter. They highlight every ungrieved loss, every part
of you still waiting to be seen by you. Your
damn listen, your damn relationship is a highlighter of what
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you've been running from within yourself. Lord have mercy, and
until these exiles are welcomed home, intimacy will remain a
battlefield of projections. As Pima Children teaches, suffering is the
portal not to perfection, but to presence. Listen, man, I'm
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Zoe Williams. I'm the voice of reason, and I just
have to be honest with you.
Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
I just.
Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Have to be honest with you. These conversations are going
to continue to come. It's my job, I not job
as a radio personality, but job as a huge human being.
To continue these types of discussions so that we elevate
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relationship is the key to not only individuation. Bert Nirvana,
I'll see you guys tomorrow
So many people ask me about how to love yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
How do you love yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Louis, cause I talk about it all the time. So
I made a list of how to love yourself, and
it's even in poster and postcard form now.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
But number one on that list.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Of how to love yourself is to stop all criticism.
Just stop it now and forevermore, and make a vow
to yourself that you're going to do your very best
from now on to stop criticizing Number one, you and
then other people. It'll be a lot easier to stop
criticizing other people when you stop criticizing yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Number two on that list is stop scaring yourself.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And here we go into fear.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
How often do you terrorize yourself with your own thoughts?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hm, you get into.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Absolute terror and it's only coming from your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nobody out there is doing a thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Sometimes it's an old family pattern. Sometimes we get new things.
People here are absolutely in terror of earthquakes. And how
often do you do that to yourself? You know, we
find so many ways.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
To scare ourselves.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I would like people, when you have time to make
a list of your fears. Make a list of your
fears and then give yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The opportunity to turn each fear.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Into a positive affirmation, turn each one into something positive, and.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Remember always you are in charge.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You are always in charge. See one idle thought doesn't
make a whole lot of difference. It's like a but
thoughts are like drops of water. You drop a drop
of water on the table here and it doesn't mean much.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But if you keep dropping, and keep dropping and treat.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Dropping get the table becomes a wash, and then you
get a puddle on the floor, and then you can
get a little pond and a lake, and finally you
can create an ocean. And with our own thoughts, we
can drowned in a sea of negativity or we can
float on the ocean of life.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And it's up to us.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The thoughts we think accumulate. And what sort of puddles
are you standing in?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Or are you up to here?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Or are you up to here and trying to paddle?
You know, what are you doing to yourself? When we're
willing to change our thinking, we can change our experiences.
And it doesn't matter if you've got a big puddle
of negative thoughts, you know you can move over here
and create a puddle of mindless positive thoughts.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You can make changes.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Ow oooh, whoever that was is cooking? Who is that?
Louise Hey, legendary hay House Publishing, Louise Hey, Louise hay
is on complete fire. Before I get into the topic, though,
that editorial just blew me away. Listen, I was ray
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in Altadena. In Pasadena, man, man, I'm there twice a week.
You know, I shout out to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty,
Dominique Uprima, Tavis Smiley and everybody else who asked me, man,
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how are your brothers? Because remember I told you guys
they were missing during that whole firestorm situation. And I'm
back in Pasadena twice a week, and I meet up
with my oldest brother who is homeless, and you know,
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I sit with him, I feed him, you know, I
give him money. And and when I'm done with my
business in Pasadena, before I leave, I always shoot up
Lake Street, you know, past my mom's old crib, past
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doctor Russell's home which was burned to the ground, past
Elliott Middle School which was burned. And I go all
the way up, all the way up to the mountain.
And what's crazy is as you're driving up Lake Street,
the burn scar is still there. I mean you see
it on the mountain, the mountain literally where there was
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once trees and foliage and you know all of that
kind of stuff. It's just dirt that was burnt to
the ground. So yeah, Altadena, Pasadena, the residents. I still
have my family who lost homes. You know, my homeboy,
James Broadway, childhood friend, you know, legendary music producer, hip
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hop producer, and former an R. He lost his home.
But yeah, man, I go up and I make that
drive through the neighborhood and it's gone. It's literally gone.
And I'm not going to get into, you know, some
of the discussions that me and my friends have had
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about people trying to take advantage. But that's a real thing,
and so that, yeah, that editorial just touched me, like
in a real way. Yeah. Yeah, So keep your prayer,
keep praying for Altadena. And I know that there are
places all over the country that are struggling, like Texas
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that flood that killed like a hundred and thirty, like
one hundred and forty people, most of them kids. I mean,
you know, the country is going through some difficult times.
So yeah, just keep the country and prayer and Los
Angelinos please pray for Pasadena for shure. Did you know
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I just found out that uh Rodney King, the famous
guy who got beat he went to pass He went
to John Mure High Pasadena. I'm like, yo, man, Auntela says,
they're still finding people. Yeah, so it's a beautiful legacy
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in Altadena, Black Altadena. You know Pasadena. We're all if
you're from there, you understand that there is Pasadena Altadena. Yeah,
there's slight differences, but not really. We all go to
school together. We all went to different schools and same
schools and transferred to school like if you from Dina,
which is Pasadena and Altadena collectively, if you from Dina,
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we all like connected that way. So yeah, let me
move on to my topic, because Louise Hay was absolutely cooking,
and please understand the severity and the importance of relationship.
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We're getting geared up to do our second series, and
the second series is the opposite of the first series.
The first series we did maybe three weeks ago. It
was a two week long series, eight episodes, and it
talked about the spiritual nature of relationship and the reason
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why I found that important to do is because I'm
always saying relationships are inherently spiritual. It's just that the
social side gets more burn than the spiritual side. People
see the spiritual side as woo woo or not scientifically supported.
We debunked all of that last it was two weeks ago. Now,
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we debunked all of that, and we had a two
week run where it's nothing but fire spiritual laws as
they pertain to relationships, and not necessarily dogmatic or dogma based,
but more metaphysical and spiritual. Right. It was heavy, so
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not so much religious, but more spiritual. It was a
heavy series. We have an entirely different kind of series
coming and when y'all hear this series, oh my god,
y'all aint gonna know what to do. But tonight's topic
and based on what Louise Hay broke down, it's important
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that we understand why we're in a relationship, why we
are attracted to whom we are attracted to. Many of
us are just looking for connection without understanding that with
a connection comes instructions for correction. Now, the instruction for
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correction is not correction of the other, it's correction of self.
Many of us get lost, we think the person has
to adjust. The person has to change. I'm gonna get deep.
The only reason why you need your needs met is
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because you haven't healed your wounds. That's the only reason
why everybody is running around talking about you gotta meet
my needs. Well, somebody didn't meet your needs in early childhood,
and unconsciously you take the same unmet needs into your
adult relationship with the expressed or silent contract of my
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partner has to finish the job. This is not how
it works. This is not how it works. Tonight's topics
psychic wounds, you are who your wounds say you are?
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Who is saying I deserve you or your wounds? I
deserve better, I deserve more than that, I deserve the best.
Are you saying that? Or are your unhealed wound saying that?
Psychic wounds? You are who your wounds say you are?
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An intriguing look at the spiritually transmitted disease STD of criticism, condescension, judgment,
and overall dissatisfaction. An ontological assault on the fragile psyche
you mistake for selhood. Let's stop playing cute with our trauma.
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Let's stop romanticizing ruin the you you present to the world,
the one in love, the one that's currently healing, the
one working on it isn't really you at all. It
is a composite of psychic scar tissue, cleverly camouflaged in
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spiritual lingo, childhood wounding, and performative growth. What if your
entire identity is just a haunted echo of unresolved abandonment,
dressed up in adult language and desire. The great poet
Roomy once wrote, the wound is where the place the
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light enters you. But let me tell you something. You've
turned that into an elaborate and colorful tattoo, not the
absolute truth of your being. All this because the light
doesn't really entered through passive suffering. It forces its way
in through the psychic demolition of your false self. If
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your wound is still the story you're leading with, then
the light hasn't entered you at all. You've mistaken your
scar for your soul. As one of my favorite teachers
and philosophers spoke on that would be doctor David R. Hawkins.
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He said, pain is the price of holding on to
your ego. But we wear our pain like a crown,
a compensatory halo that justifies judgment, control, entitlement, superiority, and
chronic Duka dissatisfaction. You really don't want to heal I
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eb in alignment. What you want is to be right
at all costs. You don't want true psychological nudity, I
eat intimacy. You want control disguised in superficial connection. When
I come forward, if you think I haven't gotten started,
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you're absolutely right, I haven't. We got much more to
talk about.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
One of the very common outcomes when we start to
first practice self compassion, particularly if we have a strong
inner critic, and that is the term backdraft. And this
is based on firefighting principles that if you have a
fire and you open the door to the fire, the
oxygen flames the fire and gets bigger when you offer
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yourself unconditional love, when you offer yourself compassion, it will
open the door to a history of not feeling loved,
to a history of not experiencing compassion, to experiences of
grief of greater in a critic. So it's actually, whilst
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on the surface it sounds like this is a lovely
thing to do office self compassion, it is actually quite
genuinely one of the hardest tasks for us to do
is to develop a self compassionate voice.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You are who your wound says you are. I know
it's hard to hear that you are who your wound
says you are. Andy, Who was the young lady speaking
the young lady that we just heard? Who was that speakingly?
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Doctor Emily, You are who your wound says you are
until you take the voice from your wound. And you
could only do that through love, through accepting of the wound.
Most of us suppress, repress, try to ignore. We don't
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want to deal with it. You are who your wound
says you are. This takes what Maya Angelou says and
flips it on its head. When Maya Angelou says, when
that person shows you who they are, believe them. But
relationship is a mirror. When that person shows you who
you are, you should believe them as well. You should
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believe the reflection of yourself that's coming from that person,
as well as believe the projection that's coming from that person,
the projection of themselves. Believe it. I keep trying to
tell you, you're not wounded. You're merely possessed by toxic
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past patterns. You struggle to break free from by ancestral
grief Rothchild by bet Wrothchild, right by energetic fragmentation Thomas
Campbell by karmic frequencies. Your nervous system still confuses as
home Rosenberg. You don't love them, You don't recognize their
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Excuse me, you don't love them, You recognize their dysfunction.
That's why you call it chemistry. Your psychic wound is
not a metaphor. It is a program, a looping, limbic
embodied spell, a bio energetic addiction to familiarity. But beet Rothschild.
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You're not in love. You're in limbic reenactment, and you
are not attracted to them. You are trying to complete
a sentence. Your inner child was never allowed to utter
in your life. It's been scripted by pain, rehearsed and guilt,
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apathy and shame, and performed as pseudo riteous. You think
you're choosing partners, friends, and lovers. You are not. You're
choosing energetically and magnetically summoned mirrors, high frequency projections of
your disowned shame asking to be met or reenacted, criticism, judgment, condescension.
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These aren't bad habits. They are spiritual diseases STDs. Spiritually
transmitted delusions pass from generation to generation, from polepit to
therapists couch, from broken parent to broken child. They are
weapons your ego, inherited to punish reality for not rescuing
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you in time. When I come forward, I'm gonna tell
you again, don't let your wounds tell you who you are.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Just adjusted to what life presented to you. You became
a parent, so you just kept going. Lost something so
you kept moving. You know, you changed rolls, shifted seasons,
survived depression, but you never stopped to ask at what costs.
Most of us pick up and keep moving.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
We tell ourselves, no hold on, sister, Raquel is cooking,
Raquel Hopkins, bring it back and listen to what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Just adjusted to what life presented to you. You became
a parent, so you just kept going. You lost something,
so you kept moving. You know you changed rolls, shifted seasons,
survived depression, but you never stopped to ask at what costs.
Most of us pick up and keep moving. We tell
ourselves life isn't supposed to be easy, so we don't
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question what's harmful. We just call it normal, and that's
not capacity. That's Autopilotte. It's not that you never had
space to grow. It's that you never thought you needed
to choose. You didn't know slowing down, processing and rebuilding
internally was a part of the assignment. Real capacity isn't
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just built by surviving life's transitions, right, It's built by
becoming more conscious in them. It's built when you choose
clarity over chaos, when you stop carrying everything and start
asking who am I now? Who do I want to
be next? If you're tired, you're not tired because you've
had too much capacity. You're tired because you've carried too
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much without ever consciously developing your capacity. You adjust it,
you adapt it. You survived, but you didn't pause to
build a mental, emotional, and internal strength to hold what
life kept.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
She's talking about psychological weightlifting. That's it. You didn't build
the muscle to deal with life. So many people think
their partner should be the answer for the work they
didn't do. Listen, my partner comes in makes it all good.
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I just need somebody to love on me. I just
need somebody to hug me from time to time. And yes,
that's cool, But if you don't know how to love yourself.
If you don't know how to hug yourself, if you
don't know how to accept yourself, if you don't how
to approve of yourself, if you don't know how to
validate yourself, you're just an addict. That's what it is.
Your wound, right, that's who you are. Your wound tells
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you who you are now unless you heal the wound.
How do we heal the wound? Right? Man, I was
sitting in a cigar lounge over the weekend talking to
a young lady. Within five minutes, she's crying because again,
she's never really processed or dealt with any of these issues.
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Do you understand we struggle in relationships because we think
the relationship will give us the answer we want versus
the answer we actually need. See, the relationship is going
to give you the answer you need, not the answer
you want. When you get the answer you need, you
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think the relationship is a failure, when in fact, the
relationship actually gave you the keys to yourself. Do you
see your wounds tell the world who you are. You
have to take the voice from the wound, right, you
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have to become the metatron for self? Right? Ross Rossenberg
warns of the self love deficient disorder SLDD. And that's
precisely what I just described. Every compliment, projection, and diagnosis
issue is an SOS from the unparented child inside of
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you who believes that love must be earned through suffering.
No capacity is earned through understanding why you go through suffering.
Many of us have just gotten tired. We've given birth
to a generation that they see learning and developing the
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capacity as part of the problem. No life is always
going to be difficult. You live on a planet where
the tectonic plates are still moving. You live on a
planet where weather can wipe out whole populations. You live
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in a dangerous place, But yet you want your relationships
to always be peaceful. Well, excuse me, quiet? Quiet is
the term? Right? Do you understand? You don't want to
be loved. You want to be seen as the one
who sees it's your final power play before the identity collapses,
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And yet you cling to separation like a drug. You
call your isolation discernment, you call your trauma instinct, you
call your criticism boundaries. But beneath it all, you're just
terrified of proximity, of peace, of being fully seen and
not needing your wound as proof you exist. And let's
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be devastatingly honest right here. You don't attract narcissists. You
attract frequencies. Listen, it is you attract frequency matches to
the parents you couldn't save, the broken parents you still
love who abandoned you in some way, not because you're broken,
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but because your nervous system was wired to confuse chaos
with home. You don't want to heal them. You want
to be the savior, the savior they beg not to leave.
It's not compassion, it's codependent martyrdom in a spiritual robe.
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Do you understand? I'm sorry? And, like Eckhart Toole once said,
healing is not a morning ritual, a journaling prompt, or
a spiritual bath. It is violent spiritual surgery, a tearing
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away of every adaptive pattern you've mistaken for purpose. It
is the shat of the mirror, the dissolution of the echo,
the radical refusal to reenact your wound as love, your
pain as personality, your judgment as truth. So I ask
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you again, who are you without the story of your suffering?
What dies in you when you stop needing to be
wounded to be valid. What part of you still finds
your identity in the echo of your pain. Don't do
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me like they did me. Don't treat me like they
treated me. And what sacred madness are you willing to
walk through to finally be free? Because you are who
your wound says you are until you rip out its tongue.
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Only then the light will enter the light that roomy of.
Only then can the light enter the wound and enlighten
the wound right, not gently, not kindly, but mercilessly, illuminating
every place you've hidden behind a trauma you've long mistaken
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for who you are. When I come forward, I promise
I get to the phone lines. Listen, I want to
talk to everybody. Are you who your wound says you are?
Does your wound your unhealed wounds identify you? When we
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come forward, we're going to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
If your entire healing journey reads like a dissertation on
everyone else's dysfunction while your own patterns get swept under
the rug, I hate to break it to you, but
that ain't healing. There's this pattern where everyone's got their
ex perfectly categorized as emotionally unavailable or a narcissist. We've
all become experts analyzing everyone else's dysfunctions, but faced with
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examining our own patterns and behaviors, suddenly we develop amnesia.
You might have heard of cognitive dissonance, where we rewrite
reality when it gets uncomfortable because admitting we participated threatens
our self image. So yeah, casting everyone else as the
villain helps us sleep at night, but it also keeps
us from getting curious about the harder questions. Look, sometimes
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people really are harmful. But if every single person in
your story is the problem except you, that's not how
relationships work, even the dysfunctional ones. We spend years perfecting
our analysis of everyone else's issues while our own patterns
run the show in the background, completely unexamined. The real
healing happens when we stop perfecting our trauma stories and
start getting curious. What draws us to emotionally unavailable people?
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How do we abandon ourselves to maintain connection? What part
of us do they mirror? Because repeating the same dynamics
with different people while armed with better vocabulary isn't growth,
It's just intellectualized trauma.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Hey man, dog Man, back at it again. I love
dog Man. Is the dog's name Lenny? Is that the
dog's name, Lenny? Listen Man, dog Man, that little cartoon man.
He cooks every single time. The Voice of Reason Life
from KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. We are on complete fire tonight.
Your wound right tells you who you are. Your wound
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tells you who you are? Is that true? I'm interested
to know you are who your wound, who your wounds
say you are?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You are who your wounds say you are? Is this
not true? I'd like to know. If all pain speaks
in the language of unmet needs, what does chronic criticism
silently beg for? Can the impulse to judge emerge as
a nervous system's attempt to stabilize itself in the face
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of emotional ambiguity. Might the need to fix others be
a disguised grief for the parts of oneself left unmet.
If trauma encodes time as danger, how does intimacy threaten
the survivor's sense of safety by collapsing chronology. Does your
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preference for truth serve your healing or merely preserve your
identity as the one who sees clearly? What if your
loyalty to emotional pain feels safer than the vulnerability of
peace that comes from peace. Can an insecure attachment be
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seen not as a disorder, but as a precise adaptation
to energetic inconsistency. Man, your wounds, they gonna tell you, y'all. Now,
all right, let's get these callers in here. My friend,
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your friend always a friend of the show, Our brother
j W from South central Los Angeles, Jay Dub, what
are your thoughts on tonight's topic?
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 10 (30:18):
My road?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I'm alive, all my friend? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
Well, you know, I have questions. Okay, For example, since
I'm single, I'm assuming this applies to relatives or friends
or co workers as well as maybe your mate. Am
I right or wrong in terms of how you react with people? Yeah,
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that's what I thought. That's still exactly what I thought. Okay,
So now let me move forward. Some things terrify me
because I can see some traits in myself how I
had changed, and then some things still remain. And one
thing that really bothers me, I guess I bury my
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uh trauma or my pain or my past so far
down I never realized or wasn't aware that I haunt
these womt or forgotten about them. And when you bring
up very's just some issues and topics. You make me
realize I have to be straight and I can identify
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with what to be saying. And it makes you wonder because, uh,
you know, I haven't been dating, so I haven't met
someone else where. You know, misery loves company and that
like you said, that chemical or extrust, the natural aw
the ANERGI drives you to that other person that's mirror
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yourself and et cetera.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
And then since I referenced that, uh, when you look
at the mirror and in this industry, yourself and when
you say what you have to do, I think about
Michael Jackson. If you want to change the world, start yourself,
and you look at a man in the mirror and
sold yourself and change your mind.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
So let's do that. Mind sh Wait, So let's do
that because I like where you're going with this. Uh, Andy,
can you put man in the mirror instrumental on in
the background while I talk to my brother? So I
got a question. Let's let's let's face the man, the
man in the mirror. Right now, let's do.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
That right now, I'm all ears. I'm all ears.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
So in all of your relational experiences, I have a
serious question to ask you, do you love or do
you reenact? If you were to look at if you
were to look at all your relationships, what were you
reenacting or were you in love? Do you love or
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do you reenact?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
I understand your question. I will say it's a combination
of both. And because of various different situations, such as
my high school sweetheart, I fought myself really falling in
love with her, But yeah, I think the molds are incorrect,
and so I was reenacting. Same with other women I
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have been with, like the woman I shouldn't marry and
didn't marry and went to another woman and married. I
felt that was my punishmentary out there, and the woman
I should have married. And so yes, it's a combination
of both. Say with roses and friends, there's a combination
of the molar or the nature of the situation, if
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you follow my play.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So wait, let me stop you now. If it's both,
why are you reenacting for what purpose are you reenacting?
Are you reenacting to feel safe or are you reenacting
to bring whatever that reenactment is back up to the
surface so you can reconcile it, so you can break
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that pattern. Are you doing it for that purpose? Are
you even conscious of the reenactment.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
I'm not even conscious of it most of the time.
You bring up subject matters such as this. But if
I and where I do reenact, and I know I'm
intentionally doing I know mots are incorrect, and I'm doing
it just because I'm trying to relate or accomplish something
that i want.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yikes, Hey man, stay here, don't go nowhere, Ja doub,
Stay right here, don't go nowhere, JDub. We got time today.
Stay right here, JDub. When we come forward more from
South Central Los Angeles.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
I'm always curious to ask this question about actors. When
you tap into any emotion, have you acknowledged that emotion
as real or fake?
Speaker 12 (34:45):
It's always real. I'm always looking to tell the truth.
But how close can I get to the truth? You
know what I mean? That's like every role I take,
every opportunity I get, I'm just trying to tell the truth.
It ain't I'm not really acting no more. When I'm
on screen, I'm telling the truth, you know. And I
feel like in my position too.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It can.
Speaker 12 (35:05):
I don't know, man, I get I get asked a
lot about being put in a box, like you feel
like you're gonna get put in a box. And for me,
I feel like I played different. I feel like I
play different characters. But for some reason, I feel like
everybody sees me at as one thing, you know, And
I don't know how to feel about it, because I mean,
even when my first acting class I took in LA,
they had this exercise. What it's the first day, first
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day of class, and you have all these actors in there,
and then she sit a chair in the front of
the room, boom, and she said, all right, you come here,
sit right here.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
This is me.
Speaker 12 (35:39):
I'm sitting in a chair back towards the whole crowd.
All right, y'all, I want y'all to tell this guy
what y'all see in mass. So I'm sitting in the chair.
Everybody's saying bad boy, uh, the thug, the killer. I'm
hearing this stuff. They don't know me, you know what
(35:59):
I mean, he and this stuff. And she's like, all right, stop,
She's like, already, turn around, introduce yourselves.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I turned around. I'm like I'm like Woodie nice to
meet y'all. Everybody.
Speaker 12 (36:11):
Everybody's laughing. Turn back around, all right, what y'all see
him as? Oh he's a nice guy, he's the sweet
guy he's But that moment made me realize people judge
you before you even talk, before you even say something,
you know what I mean. So I was before I
was just picking.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
This is very interesting, the whole Thesbian piece becoming something. Listen,
when you're wounded, I listen to what I'm about to say.
I believe that wounded people are the greatest actors. Do
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you understand, greatest musicians, greatest comedians. Listen, that wound is
gonna call you to perform. I know people don't want
to hear it put that way, but that's what it is.
(37:10):
You're a damn method actor in your relationship. Well, they
got the money I was looking for. They might not
have everything else. They might not have the emotional attunement,
they might not have the spiritual acumen, but you know what,
they represent a certain level of safety and they cool enough.
(37:31):
I guess I could get there with them at some point.
I could fake it until it becomes real. Today's topic
man Psychic wounds and the spiritually transmitted disease of judgment.
Do you see in the shadow lens of human intimacy?
(37:57):
We often mistake connection for communion, trauma for truth, and
reactivity for resonance. But beneath this masterfully you know, curated
choreography of modern relationships, romantic, familial, platonic, whatever version, lurks
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this disowned force field of unmetabolized emotion, ancestral pattering and
inner exiles clamoring for resolution. That's what a relationship is for.
It is for this type of resolution, a reckoning. Every
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relationship is a generational reckoning. We do not relate, We reenact.
Do you really love this person? Or are you re
enacting a wound? Is the wound the Martin Scorsesey of
your relationships, the George Lucas of your relationships? I know
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people don't want to hear it. Put that way. We're
re enacting not because we lack insight, but because we're unconsciously.
But we unconsciously are the wound looking for its reflection.
Let me say, man, one of the greatest compliments somebody
could ever give you is breaking up with you. That's
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their wound telling you you're not compatible. Do you know
how difficult it is to break up with a narcissist?
Do you know how difficult it is to break up
with a codependent? Narcissistic and codependent, Oh, let's keep going. Narcissistic, codependent,
ap anxious, preoccupied, dismissive a voice. Do you know how
difficult those types of relationships are to break up? Their
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damn break up proof because they are familiar with the toxicity.
Breaking up with somebody is a gift. It's typically their
wound sin. Hey, there's no supply here. Do you understand
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this episode tonight? We're trying to explore the radical proposition
that you or who your wounds say you are until
you're not. A psychic wound is not merely a historical injury.
It is an ontological distortion, a lens through which all
perception bends. Unlike ordinary emotional pain, psychic wounds are spiritually encrypted.
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They do not fade with time. They replicate. They shape
our syntax, the way we speak. They warp our sense
of self, and they whisper truth through our judgments, criticism,
and compulsive comparisons. Right in the language of internal family
(41:11):
systems by Schwartz. They house protector parts who critique and
condemn to defend against internal annihilation? What is internal annihilation?
Your ego, your sense of self that was partly molded
and crafted by your unhealed wounds. Criticism then may be
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better understood not as hostility, but as grief in drag,
a desperate attempt by a fractured nervous system to stabilize
emotional ambiguity. The need to judge, to categorize, to fix
is not moral discernment, but the residue of a nervous
system trained to appreciate pain. D You see, right, As
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Jania Fisher suggests, trauma collapses, chronology time. The body lives
in a loop of unfinished, unfinished sentences right, reaching through
others for punctuation. Our partner becomes the comma or the
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period to our psychic rerun.
Speaker 13 (42:31):
S.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Gosh, enter the spiritual std criticism. Right, And we're not
talking about constructive criticism, right, I'm talking about put downs, condescension, judgment, dissatisfaction.
These are not mere character flaws, but symptoms of contagious
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psychic virus, a virulent disconnection from source. As doctor David R.
Hawkins might note, these frequencies calibrate low on the scale
of consciousness, perpetuating karmic inertia and obscuring the field of
unified love. Judgment is not discernment. It is the ego
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masquerading as moral clarity to avoid its own surrender. But
what if every judgment you project is merely a holographic
boomerang of a disowned part of yourself. When Krishnamurti insists
that to observe without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence,
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he is not urging passivity, but presence. To drop the
evaluative mind is to stop editing reality through the lens
of past pain. Man, let me get to these callers.
(44:00):
Tonight's topic. Your wound is who you say you are.
Do you believe that somebody can save you from yourself?
We're gonna ask this to the universe. Everybody that's listening
that wants to participate, get to your phone lines. The
number to die one eight one hundred nine twenty fifteen
eighty one, eight hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty again, do
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you really love? Are you in the process of unconditionally
loving someone? Now? If you can't unconditionally love yourself, if
you're still unintegrated or haven't gotten on the process of integration.
I don't think anybody is fully integrated, by the way,
unless you live in the Himalayas and you meditate twenty
four hours a day. But if you haven't gotten on
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the process of integration, if you haven't really committed yourself
to a healing process, right, and I mean holding yourself
accountable while loving yourself, while being empathetic towards your self,
while being compassionate towards yourself, while validating yourself, while approving
of all the dark spaces in your spirit. If you
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haven't gotten on that journey, right, This is deep. Can
you really say you love someone? Do you love them?
Or are you just in another energetic holographic reenactment loop
(45:28):
of past pain. That's a real question one eight hundred
and nine twenty fifteen eight. Do you really love them?
Or are you in a reenactment loop. Let's see who's
brave enough to call in JW South Central. Let me
get you back in here.
Speaker 9 (45:47):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, you make me
think about the blue no suggestion. I guess we are
self brainwashing ourselves and we're not aware of the process,
which is a deep concept. And I think it's because
that's you know, factors. But yeah, this is really deep, bro,
(46:09):
because it makes me realize I have to really be
a critical thinker and realize or stage in my act.
And that's why I'm still seeing because I know I
have to still continue to work for myself. The process
is though, and I need to kick myself in the
button to speed up the process because I'm a better
person than that. And so that's the truth that just
(46:32):
acknowledged right now. And I know we don't have much time,
but you and I will chop it up for the future.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
No, you know, we got a little bit of time here.
This is what.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
Okay, well I'm all the ears. Of course I will
answer you know how I get down j dubb.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Sometimes we get caught up on the terminology. Oh I
want to be a better person. Why not listen to
what I'm about to offer you? Why not? I would
like to be a whole person for me, I got
you d.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
C d C.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Because oftentimes what are we doing. We're trying to get
a partner to complete us. Right, So by going through
this process, you remember, individuation is merging the shadow with
what the mask, Right, That's how you become a whole
person right again? Go ahead, Yes, this is why I'm saying.
(47:26):
If that process hasn't happened, chances are instead of being
in love, what are you actually doing? You're actually re
enacting the past that hasn't been resolved so much. Right,
So my question to you, JW, I'm all here, if
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you could be honest with yourself, can you identify three,
just three aspects of yourself that keep showing up in
these relationships that you know you need to work on,
that you know you need to deal with.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
Yes, sir, And I'm not in a relationship unless you
say I'm a relationship with myself.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Being throughout all the relationships you've been through.
Speaker 10 (48:14):
Man, Okay, now I COMPREHENDI yeah, trying to be right,
thinking that I'm right based on rational common sense.
Speaker 9 (48:27):
That everybody will probably agree that's right. Not just my team,
but what it is normal or common sense. So I'm
trying to rationalize things, and I think I overthink things,
and people will call me like a funking way I know,
or dictionary or things of that nature. You know what
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I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
And so slow down, slow down. Just because you got
you got time tonight, you can slow down a little bit. So, yes, sir,
you said the one thing is your overthinking? Is that
what you said?
Speaker 10 (49:06):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (49:06):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (49:07):
And then what was the other one?
Speaker 9 (49:10):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Could be trying to be right overthinking? What else?
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Yeah? And I have to give some thoughts to that.
I don't think that's an interest by saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
These are things that keep popping up in the relationship.
Speaker 9 (49:27):
Right, Okay? I can I phrase this questioning an issue?
Speaker 4 (49:40):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (49:40):
Or make the point when I'm really not being an
effective communicator?
Speaker 10 (49:47):
Said?
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Okay? Let me stop you. When you say not being
an effective communicator? Does that mean you don't have the words?
Or is it your tone, your delivery or is it
a combination.
Speaker 9 (49:57):
I think it's my emotion and I get by emotional.
That's I've been a problem and I know it has
the priests.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Hold years, No, stay, stay with me, Stay with me, brother,
we got time. I want you to relax. You're not
being rushed tonight. Relax, you said, emotional dysregulation. Sometimes you
get emotional, sometimes you overthink. Right, when we come forward,
we're gonna unpack a few of those things, all right, man?
(50:30):
My brother j W got South Central Los Angeles in
the building.
Speaker 14 (50:34):
Heavy in the zen way or clear minded is a
better way of translating. It is not to have no thoughts.
It is purity clarity in the sense that your mind
isn't sticky, You don't harbor grievances, you don't be attached
to the past. You go with it with life. Life
is flowing all the time. That is the doll, the
(50:57):
flow of life. You can swim again the stream, but
you'll still be moved along by it, and all you'll
do is wear yourself out in futility. But if you
swim with the stream, the whole strength of the stream
is yours. But suddenly, as it goes, all the past vanishes.
Future has not yet arrived, and there is only one
place to be, which is here.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
And now.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Man Alan Watts is always cooking with the rarest grease,
and I love it. But my brother is on the line,
and I feel like I'm trying to help my brother
Jad South Central Los Angeles. Yes, sir, do you remember
the last question I asked you?
Speaker 8 (51:43):
Sir?
Speaker 9 (51:44):
Yeah, and you hays asked me about First of all,
I'm terrified that was all pasted. Since when I would
try to improve a point, thinking I was being rational
based on what universal correct everybody would agree with, and
then me always trying to go beyond, trying to break
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a conversation. And these were our past problems years ago
when I was married, when my wife had always bring
up right.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
But I need you to stay cognizant of my intent
for asking those questions in the in the first place.
And I'm asking those questions because after you've been through
some relationships and you're a full grown man and you've
had a few of them, I'm asking you to identify
some patterns. Right, This is what journaling can help, right
(52:39):
where you identify, Hey, this is a reoccurring theme that
pops up in my relationships. And I'm asking you have
you seen those not? Have you transact?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And what are they? And you said overthinking? You said
emotional regulation or disregulation and what else?
Speaker 9 (52:58):
And being overbearing and trying to prove a point, you know,
taking them beyond you know, I had always contributed to
human nature being immature, you know, things of that nature
and me and irrationale.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
So what did you do to reconcile those things or
are they still an issue for you?
Speaker 9 (53:19):
Well, like I stated to those three years ago in
early nineties, wrung when twin towers got hit by the planes.
And over the years I contemplated political thinking, you know this,
trying to really dig deepense and trying to realize both
my faults, what what role did I play? Things of
(53:41):
that nature. That's why I listened to you, because things
that I have already worked through, you bring these issues
up and never realize I'm on the right track, you know, Okay.
Speaker 8 (53:52):
Let me know.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
Of course you still have flaws. But what I'm saying
is this is typically typically I mean yes, at some point,
at a certain level of consciousness, you can you know,
reconcile some of these things, some of these issues on
your own. But however, I like I always suggest to you, brother,
the therapy. You should definitely engage in a therapist, a
(54:16):
good one and preferably a black.
Speaker 9 (54:20):
I promise you in due time I will. Matter of fact,
I just recently talked to my little cousins that I
brought up. Once she's four, she completed, she has a
doctor's three in psychology. You can go to Yale do
her what do you call it her post or where
she actually works for four years in her practice. Ye
(54:41):
coming home, I don't really need her no with me
in person.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
I got you anyway.
Speaker 9 (54:46):
I'm gonna tell you a therapist man, real talk. I
have called it. Spoke to doctor Sunshine and cool the
other sister doctor. Yes, good, yeah, so such life matters.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yes, my brother, to push forward. I got to push forward.
But I love you and I appreciate you for callin
all right, thank you for bringing South Central in the building. Listen,
if you want to bring your city in your building.
And I got to do is call me at twenty
fifteen eighty. The VR is on fire tonight, let's go.
Speaker 13 (55:14):
That is only a consciousness that comes into being as
we know it when there is an issue. When there
you are, when you are in a conflict of some kind,
both biological as well as psychological.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
As well as you're not.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
This is very important to understand. Those sounds very simple,
it's a very complex thing. A human being is only
conscious when he has some kind of issue, problem, a
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certain quality, oh, fiah, and so on. When there are
none of those, he is not conscious of himself.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
So consciousness he is self centered. Consciousness is self centered.
If he not in conflict, he is not conscious, are you?
In other words, he's not aware Krishna Murti.
Speaker 8 (56:33):
Man.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
We call him Krishna Hurtia around here because that truth
that he dropped is gonna hurt every single time. We've
got callers on the line. I want to get him
in here asap because the phone lines have been a
little wonky. People been calling, couldn't get through. Sorry about that.
John from Mountain View, Hawaii. We love you, we love you,
(56:54):
We love you. Brother. Hopefully we can get it all together,
but we do have some callers. Let's get I'm staying
on point LBC in the house. What are your thoughts
on tonight's topic? Sweetheart?
Speaker 15 (57:07):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (57:08):
Family?
Speaker 15 (57:10):
Just real quick? Either you're gonna stay down or you
gonna lay down.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Oh, please explain it to me. Stay down or lay down?
Come on?
Speaker 15 (57:25):
Okay, everybody has wounds. Okay, great, stay down, meaning stay
ten toes down with making sure that you address them
or you fall victim to them. So you become wound
dependent and your wounds are in front of you, thus
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pushing people away from you and attracting people who like
your wound. So that's your chemistry. Hey, you have the
same womb I have. Let's be friends.
Speaker 4 (58:01):
Wow, or our wounds are on the same frequency and
they relate to each other.
Speaker 15 (58:09):
Yes, so if your wound, if you're more friends with
your wound, then how will you be able to recognize
real love?
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Real love becomes foreign because it's not anything you've ever
had before. It's unrecognizable and you're used to going back
to your norm, even if it's toxic. Oh, I hear you.
I see you cooking with the rarest ingredients right now.
But my question then becomes, when do you take the
voice away from your own unhealed wounds so that they
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can no longer speak for you.
Speaker 15 (58:48):
Well, you got to take that time and sat down somewhere.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Oh what work?
Speaker 15 (58:54):
And sat down somewhere?
Speaker 4 (58:57):
Sat down, Hey, sat down somewhere. Gone, sat not sit down,
she said, sat down somewhere. Go ahead and finish cooking.
Speaker 15 (59:06):
Chap, sat down somewhere. Take that time, even though it hurts.
You're gonna cry. But if you take the time to
unpack it, you'll come out better. But that way your
clarity would be clear.
Speaker 4 (59:25):
No, but you cook him right now. So many people
are afraid of the unpacking process because unpacking is revealing
what was concealed, and oftentimes what is concealed is unconscious,
so it's new to them, so to speak, and it's
a frightening process to do that. How do you stay
steady in that sometimes harrowing, an ugly process of unpacking
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and dealing with in the moment in real time?
Speaker 15 (59:55):
Well for us that was in the excellent masterclass a
cup weeks ago. If you stay connected spiritually.
Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
You know.
Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
You're gonna be tethered to God that in that cave
time I like to call it cave time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Come on.
Speaker 15 (01:00:16):
But if you try to do it yourself, you're gonna
keep sitting in your own field.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Listen, do you know what you're doing to me right now?
You're inspiring me. The work is coming through. This is
reminding me of Zen Buddhism. Have you ever been in
a situation where a person is trying to gauge and
check your temperature to see if you're still into connected
to or have some interest in in order for them
(01:00:46):
to open up. It's almost like your level of interest
is the coupon that they want to redeem. Right, let
me redeem this.
Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
Cool?
Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Oh, they are as interested as I am, So now
I can talk. No, No, listen, what you're saying is
it is really a spiritually evolved person who does not
need that certainty ticket. They're gonna do it because this
is who they are.
Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
Yes, indeed, do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
You see if I want to approach you, I'm not
gonna let my fear dictate how I should do that.
Your fear will say it's predicated on what they say next? Correct?
You see? Oh girl, you cooking? Look a look at
what you I'm staying on point.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
That's her name.
Speaker 10 (01:01:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I don't know who named her, but boy, they named
her right now. I'm staying on point. Who that's that
zen Buddhist quote? Though, you know, leap and the net
will appear. So many people won't leap into their truth
because they need to be certain that there's a net
there that will catch them.
Speaker 15 (01:01:54):
That's true, and then you'll stay at the edge for
a long time wondering why you're movie.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Lord, let me just say this, I love you, Chew.
I'm staying on point. She was on point this evening.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Listen, guess what you just did.
Speaker 15 (01:02:13):
How bought the LBC in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
LBC, you already know what it is if you want
to bring your city in a building, and I you
got to do is call me a one hundred nine
twenty fifteen eighty weel on complete fire tonight when I
come forward, I'm going to Houston, Texas.
Speaker 16 (01:02:25):
We know that falling in love with another person comes naturally.
You see that person, you think they're mysterious and there's
something about them, and you think, Oh, I think I'm
falling for this person.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
It takes no effort. Why is that? Because there's mystery?
Why is it?
Speaker 16 (01:02:39):
In long term relationships, love can sometimes fade. It's because
familiarity breeds contempt. The more familiar you are with someone,
the more likely you are to have contempt for them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Well, who are you going to have more contempt.
Speaker 16 (01:02:51):
For than the person you've spent every second with since
the day you were born?
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Who are you more for me?
Speaker 16 (01:02:59):
So I want to say to everyone right now, if
you have contempt for yourself, welcome to the party. That
is a normal feeling to have with someone you've spent
every minute of your life with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
So self love needs a rebrand.
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Ooh, you've been running from your damn self this whole time,
and you let your wound be your personal PR person.
Your wound is your PR person. I'll speak for him. Listen.
(01:03:37):
He likes blueberries. In his oatmeal and blueberries and strawberries.
He doesn't do honey, he does a gave and pet milk.
You got your wound speaking for you, christ Let me
correct this really quickly. It's not a Zen saying. Many
(01:04:01):
times it is misquoted as being from Zen, but the
quote leap in the net will appear is attributed to
John Burrows. And again, if you know anything about Pasadena culture,
John Burrows I think is in Burbank. And that's a
high school that Pasadena High and John Muir High, which
are Pasadena schools, their rivals, so they play against each
(01:04:24):
other quite often. And the football season is coming up,
and of course you know your brother Zoe Williams is
going to be back in his hometown supporting both high
schools in Pasadena that represent the city. Well, so let
me get to my final caller, Attala from Houston, Texas.
What are your thoughts on tonight's topic Tall.
Speaker 8 (01:04:44):
We cook in? Yeah, Well, that last clip, that last
clip is dope. That's from Matthew Hussey. I don't know
if it's Hussy Halsey. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Matthew Hussy Holsey hosting this Hushy it's Hussy.
Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Yeah, right, because that's how it fels. But let me
just say though, I really love what he said because
I think the focus on how much you love yourself
and the amount of compassion you have with path for
yourself directly correlates with this topic. Like, to me, the
less self compassion you have, the more your wounds would
speak for you, because your wound is your inner critic.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:05:25):
Christian Murty warn't Deep has a really good quote right
where he says, to me, true criticism consists of trying
to find out what the intrinsic work worst of a
saying is and not attributing the quality to that thing.
And it says you attribute a quality to an environment,
to an experience only when you want to derive something
(01:05:47):
from it and you want to gain or have power
or happiness. So I'm like, Okay, what you're saying is
we feel the need to control, so we have to
know that they and we had to have knowledge and
judge that thing, just like we judge our partners in
order to own a piece of them, right or.
Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Or own the supply minds within them. Right. Absolutely, I
don't do them like that child.
Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Well, no, I mean, I just I mean it all
kind of just like came together so seamlessly. But I
think you know, like I said, even with the clips
the way that they conclude in the end, with all
these topics, everything that we say always comes down to
the idea that you have to do your own work. Yes, right,
So if I don't want my wounds speaking for me,
then that means I need to be speaking for me,
and I can only do that through self awareness and capacity.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
But that said, come on, niece, I know you was tired.
I know it's fifty eleven o'clock. Where you listen, Hey, listen,
what did you just do? Sweetheart?
Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
I brought Houston in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Huge st in Texas is in the building. You better
learn from this fire. Gonna put your hand in there
and burn yourself. When Krishna Murti insists that to observe
without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence, he's not
urging passivity, but presence. To drop the evaluative mind is
to stop editing reality through the lens of past pain.
(01:07:22):
In e prime, which is Alfred Korzipsky's creation through general semantics,
think of it this way, he is toxic. Well, that
becomes using e prime, which is English without the verbs
is or to be all right. I experienced thissregulation in
(01:07:45):
his presence, not because he is anything, but because I
have not yet befriended the part of me that panics
in his field. This is English prime English without is
or to be. Scientists learned a long time ago we
(01:08:06):
can't really definitively say what anything is right. We can
talk about things in terms of probabilities, but we cannot
for certain say what something is man. This is why
Robert Anton Wilson said in Intimate Relationships, which deals with
psychological wounds, that many people don't even have the emotional
(01:08:29):
language to frame pop properly. He said, we should start
using maybe logic. He said, if people in intimate relationships
would use maybe logic more guess what he said, the
world would wake up fifty percent saner the next day.
Because maybe maybe it's this. I'm assuming this is eprime.
I'm assuming that this is what it is. It might
(01:08:51):
not be preface your statement with this is how I
see it from my lens, but I could definitely be wrong.
Right from my limited perspective, this is what it appears
like to me. Do you see language as Korzipsky reminds
us is not the territory. It is the map. Do
(01:09:15):
you understand it is the map, it is not the reality.
And our maps are smeared with an unintegrated effect, the
unintegration of self. So when you have this unintegrated self,
this unintegrated self is kind of, you know, leaving its
(01:09:35):
residue all over everything, so you're not really seeing things clearly.
What then, is the true nature of relationality. It is
not to people connecting, but to trauma fields negotiating safety.
(01:09:59):
That's what the average relationship is man the wound, Your
wound PR is speaking to their wound PR and their
negotiating safety within each other's fields. It is not two
people connecting, but two trauma fields negotiating safety. What we
call chemistry is often the matching frequency of unhealed timelines.
(01:10:24):
We do not fall in love, we fall into familiar vibrations.
As David Diada proposes, sacred polarity can only arise when
the self is no longer weaponized against intimacy. But to
drop the weapon right, the weapon of the defense mechanism
(01:10:47):
is to risk the vulnerability of peace, something many of
us have never known. Perhaps your soulmate is not your healer,
but your highlighter. They highlight every ungrieved loss, every part
of you still waiting to be seen by you. Your
damn listen, your damn relationship is a highlighter of what
(01:11:12):
you've been running from within yourself. Lord have mercy, and
until these exiles are welcomed home, intimacy will remain a
battlefield of projections. As Pima Children teaches, suffering is the
portal not to perfection, but to presence. Listen, man, I'm
(01:11:39):
Zoe Williams. I'm the voice of reason, and I just
have to be honest with you.
Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
I just.
Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Have to be honest with you. These conversations are going
to continue to come. It's my job, I not job
as a radio personality, but job as a huge human being.
To continue these types of discussions so that we elevate
(01:12:06):
relationship is the key to not only individuation. Bert Nirvana,
I'll see you guys tomorrow
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