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April 28, 2025 52 mins
Joe discusses issues of the day with special guest, Alfonzo Rachel host of the ZOpium Den, Anti-Fuddy Duddy Bible Study, and the ZO Loft. talking the attacks on our Constitutional rights, and more!

AND as always, we'll be covering current events, including those weird news items that you may not have heard or read in the mainstream media accounts.

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(00:22):
at them, going, my god, that one is crazier than
the other, than the other, than the other, right, and
it doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
The guy, the guy that's trying to push again, an
Indian native who became an American citizen, has decided that
Donald Trump needs to be impeached. Written for seven articles
of impeachment. Right, what is obstruction of justice and abuse
of executive power? For denying one process to unlawfully deportations.

(00:55):
He defied corridors. Actually they said to facilitate. They didn't
say go get bring because you can't force it on
the country to give you one of their citizens, and
he is one of their citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Taking away Congress's power of the purse, Trump dismantled agencies
and froze funds without permission from Congress. Yeah, Yeah, we
didn't see any of this happened under the Biden administration
or even Obama when they targeted conservative groups under the
IRS and right moms they were fighting for their kids

(01:31):
under the FBI.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Now, isn't any of that? That's fine?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Abuse of trade powers in international aggression. He imposed damaging
tariffs and threatened military invasion of our allies.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, he did that too.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, violation of the First Amendment rights. He's retaliated against journalists, attorneys,
and critics for exercising their writer free speech. Wow, what
a selective recall you have.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You don't remember any of that happening right under Obama,
under Joe Biden, Right, even though Facebook and others had
said that they were pressured to do what to censor
people's free speech?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You don't remember that. Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Creation of an unlawful office established, so call department of
a government. Yeah, you mean, you mean the one that
that they did under different name. So we go all
the way back to Carter and Obama and Clinton did
the same thing, Okay, the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Bribery and corruption. This is great.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
He's dismissed criminal cases in uh solicited payments for foreign
governments and coerced the legal settlements for personal and a
political gain. Right while you totally ignored what Joe Biden did, Well,
you're totally ignored the plainload of cash that Obama said,
uh in a jet to Iran. And then I like this,

(02:55):
so tyrannical overreachs finally the most important. He's attempted to
consolidate unchecked power to row with the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right, you mean, like I check parr.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You mean like the j six people that were put
in jail without any time, without any court time, without
any I mean, seriously, you're seriously gonna say all that.
I think it's hilarious. You know, I really find all

(03:25):
I really find all of this quite interesting. And Stephen Jung,
the White House Director of Communications, he had a funny
response to all of this, and would you I can't
repeat what he said because it sounds too bad, But

(03:46):
I mean, isn't it funny when Trump specifically calls out
the Constitution on something, right.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
He's fighting for a Americans, they're fighting for illegals, and
Trump's a bad guy. He went on a sane rampage
against Trump. Trump's provocative comments during a press conference with
a Prime Minister Benjamin niall Right, Trump floated the idea

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of the US taking over Gaza Strip and redeveloping it.
I don't think he say by force, right, No, And
if you really think about even Bill Maher was talking,
I said, think about the oasis that Trump could turn
that into, right, a place where people want to go
that they're safe anyway, So he said, I rise today

(04:42):
announced the movement to impeach president has begun. I rise
today to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment
against a president for his dastardly deeds.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Let's not do anything for the American people. Let's just
go ahead and try to take down from Let's go
ahead and try to thwart the will of the American people.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
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their DNA. And I could prove it because Governor Newscrum
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You get the ball, get engaged, be part of the solution.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I very much appreciate the time to be spending
with us here on the air end in the chat
room and texting and tweeting and truly being part of
the conversation.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
Let me bring him on.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because I have so much fun with him and I
don't have a whole bunch of time. Al fonts ol
Rachel joins me. We lovingly referred to him as though,
and did you pay your electric bill, dude? Or what's
the elia? Do you need donations?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I do?

Speaker 8 (11:52):
I do as.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, I do too, but god, I just I wont
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Speaker 12 (12:01):
Yeah, and uh and and our donations are.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I don't feeling too so don't.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
But we can get some more lighting.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, they send him, send him some oil and rags
and a couple of sticks. And anyway you have money, Oh,
there we go with the money, you Christians always asking
for money.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
There you go right, seve me a thousand dollars tomorrow, Jez,
go and take me home.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
We'll gong as we don't love the money going on money, No,
I don't love.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm went you there just as long as you look.
I was.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I was listening to these guys when I drive it
home from l A and I happen to come upon them,
and they were making fun of a TV evangelist, and
they were talking about how they were going to lose
their contract because they couldn't pay for the show anymore right,
and that God wanted them on the air because they

(12:57):
had to fight this TV evangelist. And I'm thinking, Okay,
if God really wanted you on the air, would you
have to beg for money like this? And you really
think the only thing he wants to do is fighting
a TV a begs. Don't you think that if you
just taught the word, the unadulterated word of God, that

(13:18):
that would be much more powerful than telling you us
how bad this guy is.

Speaker 12 (13:22):
Well, now let me offer this. Yeah, the Lord doesn't
want us begg and that's for sure. And the Lord
definitely wants to make sure that if we need something,
we pray to.

Speaker 8 (13:31):
Him, and we asked about it first.

Speaker 12 (13:32):
But even Paul was like going to people and say, hey,
don't we have the right to make a living.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
It's like we're like, you guys are giving all.

Speaker 12 (13:41):
This money to these false preachers and meanwhile, me and
my homies, man, we're living like we're living in squalor.
You know, we hungry, we need to and this is
this is Paul saying, it's like we're hungry, we need
a place to stay. We have the right, we have
a right to make a living. You know, we can
use the support, so it, but you know, going out

(14:03):
and you know, begging people for money for for stuff
that isn't really squaring up with scripture.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
Now, that's a problem. I think.

Speaker 12 (14:11):
You know, anybody with anybody who has any sort of
respect for Holy writ you know, can appreciate that. And
that's what we want to do here, is that we
want to make sure that people are following the Lord
according to who he says he is, and our perspective
on things is based on his word and filtered by
his word.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
That's you know, that's that's the main thing.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm but that's it. It's like, don't sit there and
and wine and moan and grown that you're gonna be
taking off the air any second now if you if
you don't raise this money and do that, okay, you
can let people know. Look, you know it takes money
to keep this on the I'm I'm of a different elk.
It's kind of like, all right, if you're listening in
the Holy Spirit, if you're truly praying, if you're truly

(14:53):
doing the things you wanted you're supposed to do, nobody
should have to be begging. You'll know when you're being fed,
you'll know who to give to, uh that kind of stuff.
But when you're when you're begging so that you can
take down somebody else, I'm not I'm not there.

Speaker 12 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it does kind of you know,
reflect or or bring to mind some of David's writing.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
It's like, hey, lord, you know, it'd be fantastic if.

Speaker 12 (15:17):
You like, you know, uh, really really put the smack
down on my enemies.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 12 (15:22):
But hey, but you know, you know, we pray for things.
The thing about faith is faith isn't just all about
you know, getting what you want or getting the answers
that you want from God. Faith is being able to
keep your faith even if you don't you know, get
the answers that you want, you know, or because like
like take for instance, John the Baptist, you know, John Bass, like, hey, uh,
you know, I'm here, I've been trying to serve you. Man,

(15:44):
I'm here in prison. I'm about to get beheaded.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Man.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
You are the Christ, right you You're the one who's
supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Backing, ain't it you know? Uh? You know, And Paul,
it's like.

Speaker 12 (15:55):
I got you know, look here, I got this thorn
in my side, you know, and in his homie.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Uh, I think it.

Speaker 12 (16:00):
Was uh epiphiditis. I think it was epiphiditis, you know.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
Was sick. It was like to the point of death. Uh.

Speaker 12 (16:09):
And Paul, Paul himself had the power to heal people.
Paul was even it was given resurrection powers. Uh, but
he was worried that epiphiditis was gonna die.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
I think it was.

Speaker 12 (16:18):
I'm pretty sure zepiraphiditis was gonna die. Like what you're
worried for, Paul. You know, can't you uh, you know,
do a little healing, you know, powers yourself.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Can't can you not petition the Lord to to help
your friend?

Speaker 13 (16:31):
Uh?

Speaker 12 (16:31):
So you know it's we do have to you know,
we do have to ask, you know, uh for things.
And you know, sometimes we're gonna get what we hope
that we get and sometimes we don't.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
But can he keep the faith regardless?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, and and again, my my biggest thing, frankly and
honestly is simply that when you're when you're on there
and you're crying for it, you're, oh, to your point,
you're almost begging for it. It's not like you're you're
using scripture to say, you know, we're we're supposed to
be doing ABC in d You guys are supposed to
be helping us out. No, that's not what they're saying.

(17:06):
That's if that's what they were saying. And I got
nothing right, I got no complaint here, but I don't
I don't like when they beg But the other side
of it, too, is I've told my friends some of
these guys will complain and say, you know, I ain't
giving my mind to the preacher.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay, really, that's so.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
You don't like you don't like an air conditioned environment,
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Speaker 8 (17:36):
That's right, man, that's right, that's those These things cost.
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Speaker 12 (17:42):
It's not having a commod Having accommodations for it is not.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
But to your point, man, you're right.

Speaker 12 (17:48):
You know we humbly ask you know, we humbly asked begging. No,
you gotta maintain, you know, the dignity, the only one
worth begging for is the Lord himself? You know we
beg of the Lord, but for anybody else will humbly.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Ask yep, yeah yeah I again, Like I said, just
sitting there thinking to myself. When these guys do that stuff,
you can do nothing but laugh. It's like, okay, so
really so God told you to whine and cry and
scream on the radio and beg us he send you money?
Because right, okay, got it?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
And it's not there with it? So where was I do?

Speaker 8 (18:28):
See?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Now you maybe get everything? Sell your fault, Hey, praise
the Lord, man help me.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
God?

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Oh God, No, it's it's there's so there have been
so much going on. There's been so much happening in
the news, and I'm just having so much fun with it.
It's like, uh, you know, these guys are you know,
how how can how could Trump call himself a Christian
when he's sending kids, uh to countries they've never been
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(18:57):
they are, I'll leave it that way. Uh, if those
reverends would actually read, what's happening is they're importing the parents,
giving the parents the option to leaving those kids who yes,
are American citizens with family members.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But I didn't even know this.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Just because the kids born here doesn't give the parents
a right to stay here.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
So yeah, you know, but as Christians were supposed to
have a heart and say, well you can stay too.
But we'll talk about that we come back, Joe Man.
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America's news update, I'm John Schaeffer. White House is highlighting
President Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration as he nears his
one hundredth day back in office. At a news conference
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Trump's one hundredth day in office is Tuesday. President Trump
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I don't think it was live at the time, but
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Speaker 1 (25:13):
You're such a nicer guy that I am. I really said,
you know, in my prayer life, I go yo, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I understand why you didn't let one of us take control.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, I really do, because I'd be smiting everybody, maybe
even myself, you know, seriously, to be little dust bowls everywhere.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
So you know, I wouldn't mind having a smite button. Yeah,
but it's probably better that I don't have one. Yeah,
got me too.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Half the restaurant you were in would be little piles
of dust everywhere, right, seriously. So anyway, I just I
get the biggest kick out of some of this stuff.
All right, you heard about the judges that were picked
up this weekend, did you not? End the last week
and this weekend? Yeah, two judges arrested by the FBI.

(26:03):
One of them was for harboring a criminal. So you
heard about that, yeah, ok, yeah, yeah, so the one judge. Now,
now the Democrats are screaming that what we did was
just against all protocol.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It was just wrong.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
We should have give the judges ready for this one.
This is rich an opportunity to turn themselves in at
the arraignment, you know, you know, like they did with
Rudy Giuliani and those guys. Right, So, this guy actually
had gang members living in his house that had committed
violent crimes, taught one of them how to totally wipe

(26:40):
out a phone by smashing it with a hammer and
drilling it. The other one, she actually found out that
Ice was waiting for one for a criminal that she
was dismissing his case or something. So she found out
they were out there waiting for him. So she him
out the back door of her chambers.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
All right.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, so they're screaming about this about the unprofessionality of
the FBI and all that, and I'm going, uh, wait
a minute, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I thought nobody was above the law.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm kind of confused, right yeah.

Speaker 12 (27:17):
Uh And and and not only that, I mean, I
guess the judge is confused because I mean, was this
person Uh it was brought up during the trial that
he like he beat his wife or girl. Yes, that's
the judge doesn't sound very pro woman and pro feminist.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
Is gonna.

Speaker 12 (27:36):
Are are you're a woman beater? Can I just see
you back? Let's get you out of here. We wouldn't
want anything to happen to you or get the the
nasty FBI get a hold of you or anything like that.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Yeah, beating women gets put out.

Speaker 12 (27:47):
And I don't know, maybe she's gonna she's gonna change careers. Man,
She's gonna maybe become as boxing coach and and make
him into a training and that way he can go
and beat up women and get.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Paid for it.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Oh God, blessed.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean, seriously, watching this stuff go down is truly
a head It's not surprising anymore, but it's a head scratcher,
you know what I mean, Like you're almost expecting it.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh yeah, right? But why?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I mean, what what really has turned all those people?
I already know any answer to this really, but what
has turned all those people into American hating God hating lawless?
You know, ideologues? There is no only way to put it. Ideologues?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know.

Speaker 12 (28:31):
Well, I mean the American hatred is it has been there.
I mean it's been there ever since the start of
the Democrat Party. The Democrats have always hated America for
what it is. That's why they're Democrats.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
You know.

Speaker 12 (28:41):
They think America is supposed to be a democracy. And
Republicans were founded to understand and know, man, this is
a republic.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
There's there's certain things.

Speaker 12 (28:49):
That you can't mess with there you go, that makes
America America. Those those things come from God. You can't
mess with that. Democrats like, you know, uh, we can
vote away. We have that, we will have the majority
of you know, of of the of the people.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
To have the power to vote away what God has decreed.
What do you got, what you want?

Speaker 12 (29:10):
What you wanted to institute that is given by God,
our rights to life, liberty.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
Democrats want to be able to decide.

Speaker 12 (29:14):
Who who qualifies for these rights to live and who dies,
who has liberty and who does it rights of property
and and and other people's pursuit of happiness and stuff
like that. They want to be able to have, you know,
the rights of it. They've been doing that. This is
just another iteration of it.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Really yeah, I again, I look at this stuff and
I just go even I know I'm going to get
the hate mail for this one.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I always too.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
But even those professing Christians on the other side, even
our side, I get it, I get it. We have
it on the Republican and or conservative side, but it's
it is monstrous on the left where these people have
you know, crosses around their deck and they you know,
put the name of Jesus in there well while trying
to release or or sticking up for these you know
these rapists, these drugatisties, the killers, these whatevers, and and

(30:03):
try to tell me and I'm sorry, I'm not going
there with them. But yeah, the Jesus would have mercy
on these people. Okay, sure, kaed you comment on it
because I already have like five times. They really they
really think that the Jesus is gonna go, oh, oh,
I'm sorry you killed seventeen people.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, go ahead and get lost and have some fun.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Right.

Speaker 12 (30:26):
Yeah, it's like like you remind your audience. There's that
part where JESU says, go forth and don't sit anymore.
You gotta repent for those things that you've done.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (30:37):
If you don't repent, well, the Lord lets us know, dude,
you still got to be accountable. You're still held accountable
for for for what it is that you do wrong.
You don't have the license to just go and do
evil with this assumption.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
That oh I forgive you.

Speaker 12 (30:50):
There still has to you know, there's a sanction on
these things and they still have to be answered to.
But the Lord himself is not gonna hold if you repent. Yeah,
I'm not gonna hold I'm not gonna hold the.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Sin against you concerning the kingdom.

Speaker 12 (31:03):
But you do have to pay, you know, concerning the
mortal affairs. That's still Jesus is a walk back with
the sins. Are you commit sin, you got to pay.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
For it, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, you know, I tell people a table luck if
you have that moment, and I'll call it that because
you know, I don't know what happened. But anyway, you
have that moment, you end up sleeping with somebody out
of wedlock and then you get pregnant. All right, there's
forgiveness for what you did, but you're still pregnant. You
still have a consequence, positive consequence in my mind, but

(31:38):
a consequence sotheless for that sin you committed. That's right, right,
I mean, and it's not a burden whatever.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Right, Well, the.

Speaker 12 (31:48):
Bottom line is is that whatever recompense it is, you
don't you can't do it begrudgingly. That's that's the forgiveness.
Forgiveness isn't the absence.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Of justice, you know.

Speaker 12 (31:59):
The forgiveness is it's like, look, you've committed a crime
you have to pay for. Like I mean, they're probably
gonna cite, you know, the woman who was about to
be stoned to death, and we're all and It's like, one,
you're bringing this to Jesus? Why are you bringing it
to me in the first place, unless you might have
it in your mind that I'm God and the worthy
judge of this sort of thing. But yeah, I noticed

(32:21):
that you brought her to me. And I also noticed
that you only brought her.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
Where's the dude? Where's Sancho? Where's Sancho? How come you
didn't bring him?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, ye where's the John boys?

Speaker 8 (32:37):
So this whole thing has to square up.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Man.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
You can't just bring her to me and say like, okay, yeah,
go ahead and stone her to death.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
You know. It's like, no, there's we have to have
a complete trial here.

Speaker 19 (32:47):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
So, you know, after they all leave, it's like I
noticed that you guys are all leaving after I started
writing in the dirt with my finger, you know, kind
of like the way that the Lord gave the law
to Moses, he wrote it with his finger. It's like
you guys picking up on some things about who I am,
you know. And so the older ones they start dropping
their rocks, and the other ones like start dropping the
rocks too, like, hey man, what.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
Just happened here? What just happened?

Speaker 12 (33:10):
So And the reason why I say that is because
when people, if people don't try to bring up this
thing about well, Jesus forgave the woman you know who
committed sin.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
It's like, you know, he.

Speaker 12 (33:19):
Told her, don't see he called her out for sinny,
It's like, yeah, you have sin, don't go sin anymore.
If you're not gonna repent from this, then these people
going upside your head with the rock, honey, ain't gonna
be nothing compared to what I'm gonna do to.

Speaker 16 (33:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, no, I
I do. And it's you know, we're all I was
watching these over the weekend and watching some of these again.
They call themselves pastors. They have the lgbt Q. Uh
it's not a flag, it's what do they call that
thing they drape around their neck, you know, and uh yeah,
they're praying to the universal.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
It makes me nuts.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
It's kind of like even you guys in the same
denomination or what you call yourselves a denomination, you can't
even decide with the gods, are he is she transgender?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Whatever? Whatever? Whatever? You're making it up. As you go.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You realize that the scripture says if you add to
or take away from your and a hell of a
lot of trouble.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, that's today's terminology.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
By the way, you gotta get a win on that.

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We are back job based your host.

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I was obliged to have you with me eight five
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Speaker 2 (40:29):
You know I'm gonna get this wrong, but it might
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Speaker 1 (40:32):
Uh, Alfonso Rachel joins me.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
We love to refer to him as Sooe.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
He is the host of the Soloft the Zopie and
Den the Anti Funny Dotty Bible Study. And uh, hey,
so you know that song, Well they changed the name,
changed the words on the radio forget you by? Was
it see low green, cecil green, silo green?

Speaker 8 (40:53):
But I think I've heard, I think I've heard.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was funny because I I I heard.
I didn't know that there were two versions of it,
you know, being the innocent person that I am.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
And no, So I'm going through YouTube and I'm just
setting up some music.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Souse, I can listen to it or what have you,
And so I clicked on it and all of a sudden,
I'm hearing these nasty words, I'm going, WHOA, wait a minute,
that doesn't sound.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like the song.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I've been tricked, I've been deceived, the devil has entered
my lair. And I just it was just a funny thing.
I just it came on and really really really shocked
and surprised me.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
So I'll tell you what I vaguely remember.

Speaker 12 (41:37):
So I talked about being able to tune things out
because the only time I think I've ever really heard
that song or listened to it or because I had to,
is when I was working as a bouncer man and man,
I guess it's just I love to.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Talk about those that you were a bouncer.

Speaker 12 (41:53):
Yeah, roadhouse man, Roadhouse, And I think that song was
in the rotation, man, And it's just one of those
things where it's.

Speaker 8 (42:01):
Like I need a new line of work.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
It was, it was, Yeah, I get it. Sometimes it's
in the back.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Cammy will come in sometimes I'm listening to some podcast
or something and she'll pick up on something to say
it and then got, what are you talking about? And
I go back and play it. She's exactly right. But
you I don't know if that's good or bad. Yeah,
not that it doesn't make me upset when I hear it,
but I tune it out because I obviously I got
something else going on. But Joji gets in there though,

(42:32):
you know, yeah, even when you're not totally tuned into it,
it gets into your head.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
It does.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
You know.

Speaker 12 (42:38):
It's and I'm I'm praying, you know, it's a lord
that because you know, I've got the music that I've
been doing out there, and yet I don't have to
worry about, you know, any profane lyrics or anything like that.
I mean, I mean some people may not, you know,
they they want the hip hop or the R and B,
which I like R and B. I don't like what's
been done to it. I'm more old school, you know.

(43:01):
But but you know what, the music that we do
is more you know, rock oriented than that. But at
least you don't have to worry about any profane low
lyrics you know, coming with it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, but people, you know, when I when I talk
to and I know we're going down a different road altogether.
But when I talk to some of my friends and such,
like we were talking about Taylor Swift right some of
my Christian friends, and they're like, it's only music, and
I go, yeah, But you know what, you know that
the devil was. He was like the music man, if
you would okay, And the music does affect you. It

(43:36):
affects you your mood and it affects your thought process,
whether you're mad, they're happy, whatever, you know, I mean,
truth of the matter. And when you guys say it's
only music, those words get in there, you know. And
he's got all these Taylor Swift fans that these little
girls that are tripping over each other because they wouldn't
be just like her, pasty white with red lips, you know,

(43:57):
and blood the air, and you know, you listen to
all her heartbreak music. I don't get it. And I
have Christian friends that will say to me, well, you know,
I like her music. I like the way it sounds,
and and it's you know what, I'm bringing my daughter
upright and going, okay, you're bringing your daughter upright by
having to sit there and listen to this. Why don't

(44:21):
you just put her in front of a porn movie?

Speaker 12 (44:24):
Given the devil a foothold man, And that is talk
about a naive statement to make you know it's only music. No,
h If it was only music, then the Lord would
have nothing to do with it, and the Lord incorporates
music that we have.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
A whole book like called the Psalms, you know, and
these things are put to music. Music is really important.
Lyrics are really important. The word of God says life
and death is in the power of the tongue.

Speaker 12 (44:49):
It's music is very important and very powerful. And like
you said, I mean the you know, Lucifer himself was
like chief of worship, you know, was he was made
to make music. King David was a musician. He was
a warrior musician.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
You know.

Speaker 12 (45:06):
Music is very powerful, and it's very unfortunate that you know,
people on you know, uh. And the thing is with
with Christianity, amazing musicians. Uh, there are these uh Christian
musicians I'm talking like musicianship.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
That it's like on a whole other level.

Speaker 12 (45:26):
And it's a shame that that doesn't you know, really
get put forth to be you know, promoted, uh in
the culture, that into the degree that it could be.
But unfortunately a lot of times these amazing musicians who
are Christians, they end up going sideways.

Speaker 8 (45:39):
Man.

Speaker 12 (45:41):
They they they're the kind of people who them right,
I don't know, I mean, it's like I don't even
know if the fame so much gets to them.

Speaker 8 (45:50):
It does, but it's like, did you.

Speaker 12 (45:51):
Ever really have the Lord? You know, It's like were
you really playing for for him? Or were you just
playing under the trappings of being a Christian but you
just wanted like some sort of outlet to be able
to express yourself musically.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
Hell, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well, it's a good point. I probably a little more.

Speaker 17 (46:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You know, some of these people that go into this
the other singing gospel of music, they're loving on the Lord.
They're appreciating what you did for them in their life.
And I think what happens sometimes is people give into
the distraction.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Of the moment. Right. It doesn't think about something.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Nothing happens overnight, right, and like you're eating in love
with the Lord on your knees, you know, thanking him
so much for your life at eleven o'clock at night,
when you get up at six, all of a sudden
you can't remember his name. I mean, it's it's it's
little things that happen all of a sudden. They get
to a party, you know, there's booze there, and they, oh,
I have a little bit moreild this party with the

(46:48):
other people, and you know, if it gets a little crazy,
I just I'll just leave. And they don't. They do
something stupid, they ask for forgiveness. The next day they
feel good about you know, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, I've seen people that that are on fire
for the Lord, and two or three years later, it's like, dude,
what happened?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I screwed up my life and I don't think the
Lord wanted anything to do with me now, So you know,
I'm already there and like, no, no, no, doesn't work
that way.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
What do you tell me? One striking?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
You're out?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Seriously?

Speaker 8 (47:20):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
You you must have run into people like that in
your line of work.

Speaker 12 (47:26):
Yeah, it's it's uh, it's I guess I still kind
of fall on Did you ever really?

Speaker 8 (47:32):
Did you ever really know?

Speaker 12 (47:33):
Like a lot of people, you know, they're they can
consider themselves to be seen as like solid Christians, but
it's like they're more Christians concerning the experience or like
some sort of feeling that they have or or caught
up with the narrative of love and acceptance and all
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
But but do you actually study Jesus for who he's
always said he's been though, and I don't. I don't
know if I've really seen that stuff.

Speaker 12 (47:57):
I've seen more people studying the scriptures to try to
find something to validate themselves, to feel the acceptance of Jesus.
Jesus who loves me and I want to be in
heaven with Jesus and all that sort of stuff and just.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
The feeling of it. But I'm like, Okay, you study
the scriptures or you search the scriptures.

Speaker 12 (48:19):
For that this feeling that you want and maybe what
it has to do with you.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
Uh, And you're into this.

Speaker 12 (48:25):
Jesus because this Jesus guy just.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Loves you and made you feel accepted. Right, But what
do you know about is I? Have you studied He? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Have you studied He who
is the living law? You know? And I don't really
get that.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Well, I think you look, I'm gonna I'm going to
push back on you a little bit from a standpoint
to being And I know I hate to sturm myself,
so don't think I use it all the time, but
being human, if you would, Okay, you know, think about
your wife. Have you ever said anything to your wife
or done something about it?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Oh? Man? That was wrong. I should have said it
that way. Whatever, No, you're just okay. I got it.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
Lord, forgive me right exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And and I would say to you the same thing
when it comes to our relationship with the Lord, whether
you love him, you love dad, you love mom, you
love the Lord, there are those moments where you just
get I'm going to say, you get stupid, you have
a moment of anger, you have a moment, I don't
know whatever you want to call it, I don't care,
and it's and I'm sorry, but I've had some of
those moments that I've had to drop to my knees

(49:26):
to go, all right, Father, that was stupid. That was dumb,
and I knew when I was doing it it was dumb.
I'm sorry, forgive me, okay. And and I would say
there's a big difference between that and the guy that
as I know some that they they have forgiveness from
everything because you know, Jesus forgave them, and if they
want to go commit adultery and it happens, then they'll just.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Be forgiven and it's not a problem. Those aren't the
guys I'm talking about. I am talking about truly those people.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Uh, sometimes that will have a mess up and they
think it's over for them.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
You know, I thought I can't imagine being there? Can you? Really?

Speaker 13 (50:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (50:02):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
You know the lord is his condition is you repent?
I forgive?

Speaker 12 (50:09):
Uh and if you step out of that, Like like
you said, it's like if a person sins against you,
you're gonna forgive them each time.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
They sin against you. But but the thing is.

Speaker 12 (50:20):
I mean, hey, you, if you let that person into
your circle to sin against.

Speaker 8 (50:24):
You, then I guess you kind of deserved it.

Speaker 12 (50:26):
But if you're you got to be prepared to forgive
them if this person has a track record of sinning.
But once again, folks, uh, you know, forgiveness is not
the absence of justice.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
You know, you can forgive a person.

Speaker 12 (50:38):
Be like, look, I got to disassociate myself with you.
I can't let you back into my circle. However, I don't.
I don't hold a grudge against you.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (50:46):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (50:46):
I don't wish it will learn anything about you or
anything like that. We just can't, you know, we can't
do business anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
There you go, That's right, not one arm plank about
three mile length anyway?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Go help people? When to go find some of that
good music of yours.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
Thanks man.

Speaker 12 (51:03):
I'm at Bronze Serpentmedia dot Com. Uh drop by, folks,
let me know that sam me on the Joe heard Me,
saw me.

Speaker 8 (51:10):
I'm both on Joe on all.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
All of the above.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Anyway, You know, you really people, You know, you know
what if you tired all that crap that you're listening
to that comes across your radio, go check them out
and support a brother. And I mean that we should
be supporting each other, all of us brother says is
a Christ.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
We should be supporting each other.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
All right, God blessed her. Thanks for what you do.
And now I'll be back with you in a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
So'll go far.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
People, you're listening to jobs each other.

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