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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three, two, five, five, six three.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's the Joe Messina Show.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And this thing here is making me nuts. Oh god,
I thought they fixed this frustration.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Plus anyway, Josina, your host, always appreciate the time that
you're spending with me here on the Joe Masina Show
so much. Appreciate it, and I appreciate your patience too.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I know some of you.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Going out of your mind, but again, this is one
of those things, especially with electronics in your car. You
know your cars are making this noise and every day
drives your nuts and you go, okay, that's it. I'm
taking to the mechanic. And the minute you pull on
the driveway with the mechanic, the noise goes away. It's
almost like a watch what happens. I'll make you nuts. Anyway,
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some of you who right means it there's no sound. Yeah,
I hear it. But whatever, we're working on it. So
thank you for having patience. All right, I got Zoe's
gonna be on it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
The left has got quiet about the stock market and
what the terrorists are doing and the money they're bringing in,
and how China now has kind of acquiesced. Right, they're
allowing certain things to come in now with either terror
free or extremely low tariffs. I mean seriously, but you're
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not going to hear all that, are you. And for
you animal lovers who hate Trump, now, just just remember
who's been in charge of the government for off and
on for decades really but mostly the Then why did
it take Donald Trump to shut down the NIH Beagle labs?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right? These labs are conducting.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
They have video on it, painful experiments that Fouci was
in charge of. Right, we're spending all this money to
torture these dogs.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Where's Peter hypocrisy?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Where are they right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And Fouci said he didn't do this at first, he
did anyway. Just just amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
To watch these lies doctor surface so we can actually
see what they are. A FI five real Joe, a
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rates ice rated at Oklahoma safe house tied to Guatemala
based human smuggling cartel. It indicted eight in a Warez
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link operation flooding US with illegal migrants. They were opening
the doors, they were paying people off to come in.
Are you telling me? You know it's funny how you
say Trump is putting all these unqualified people for it.
I love listening to you guys because you give me
so much to work with. So you tell me that
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that they're that the people that Trump's putting forward to
handle these departments are totally unqualified. Trump's been in office
a little over one hundred days, and all of a sudden,
he's able to find these organizations, these groups, these houses
is where illegals are being held, criminal illegals are being held, right,
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these are sex trafficking save havens. He can find them
in one hundred and ten days. And yet Joey B's
DJ Joey Bees. You know, FBI couldn't find them all
this time. They were I guess, I don't know, busy
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looking for Christians that were making too much noise. I
don't know, just little tidbits. I like to have fun
with President Javier Millel. He declassified eighteen hundred secret files
exposing Nazi arrivals and cover ups in Argentina from World
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War Two. This ought to be good. You know, all
these conspiracy things I used to make fun of my
friends about. Yeah, okay, whatever, whatever. Now I'm not saying
they all come true and they're all real I don't
believe you Earth is flat, you know, and that we
know it's flat. The government, Yeah, not that. But when
they talk about Germans fleeing to Argentina with their wealth
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and being treated, you know, like kings and queens, we
were told no, that didn't happen. But guess what, Apparently
it did happen. Okay, And then many of many of
people screaming now or on the left anyway, that trumps
taking away Medicare. He's making it impossible to get YadA, YadA, YadA.
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You know what, why shouldn't he? Another Louisiana nurse practitioner
are convicted in two million dollars medicare fraud scheme. She
signed over one thousand fake orders and got kickbacks. So
when you're finding stuff like this, it's time to stop
saying it doesn't exist or it's so minuscule it doesn't matter. No,
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it always matters, and it doesn't matter how minuscule it is.
When one hundred grand is stolen, fifty grand is stolen,
you do, it's illegal. It's still my tax money, your
tax money, right, I mean amazing. I just find all
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of this, I just I just find all of this.
I won't say amusing because we saw it coming. If
you've been listening to the show for a period of time,
I've been talking about this stuff for over a decade,
you know. And it's not conspiracy, it's not pie in
the sky egle.
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there is the way we win. And I love this guy.
I love having him on. Always appreciate his time with
with us. What happened to this stupid thing again? That's
all right, I'll make it work somehow.
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Joe Bacy to your host, Always a pleasure to have
you with me.
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be part of the sol What do you look?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I confused?
Speaker 12 (13:03):
For you?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Got that?
Speaker 10 (13:05):
That's my rest and confused face.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Man, that rest and confused God. You know, I don't
know how old you are. Exactly what I joke with
my kids all the time. So if you ever want
to see what high school was like when I was
a kid, just go get the movie Dazed and Confused,
because that is like, that is what high school was
like when I was a kid.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Man, I'm trying. I'm trying to picture Joe with like
some with some.
Speaker 13 (13:27):
Long hair and a button up shirt and maybe some
bell bottoms.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, well bell bottoms what I used to call clod hoppers,
and the Greek sailor's cap and the and the pooka
beads around your neck, you know.
Speaker 13 (13:40):
Yeah, you know, and and ditching third period so he
can go a spark one and.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
At amateur time. I would you skip second period and
then you know what to find me for lunch and
all that. Dude, I had you remember do you remember
the movie The Van?
Speaker 10 (13:58):
Who the Van?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (14:00):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, let me just put this right. Not that I
was doing what he was doing, let's be clear, but
I had the van in high school and everything I
needed was in the van, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So okay.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And then finally, because I get there later, I would
get back from lunch in time and all that. The
vice principal. I was probably one of the only kids
that had a parking spot in high school. The vice
principal made me parking in front of his office so
he could look out, so he could look out and
see my car.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
Okay, that smoke, that's not coming from the exhaust. That's right.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, I got it. Don't don't don't bother
coming in. We put it, We put it out, We
put out the blaze. It's good. Yeah, go back to
your work.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No problem.
Speaker 13 (14:46):
Now for the youngsters listening to our program, we are
not at all condoning these things, and we are not
at all suggesting that you go and get a van.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
No no, I mean.
Speaker 13 (15:00):
Uh, those things, uh don't make the be stronger, be
a better generation of kids than we were.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Okay, be stronger, be better.
Speaker 13 (15:09):
You don't need that crap, all right, And we found
out the hard way, even though it was kind of
the fun way, that that stuff was crap and you
don't need it, my.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Lord, you are lord, right, But I see you totally
threw this whole thing off for me, So I'll figure
it out here.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Anyway. Uh, there was a lot of news, a lot
of things going on.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
I'm trying.
Speaker 13 (15:33):
I'm trying to we're trying to get into clowning while
we can, man, because like we're we're uh, we're over
we're under a tornado watch again over here.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
We're supposed to be outside of tornado alley. Dang it.
But you know, we got a tornado watch or something.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know?
Speaker 13 (15:47):
Hey, I don't I don't want to know what it
would really be like for God to be angry at me.
But if you see my chair start spinning around or
anything like that and I lift on up out of here,
then you guys know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
We'll have it. Just think about how much money I'll
make as well as.
Speaker 10 (16:03):
Shadow band as we are. Do you think that will
go viral? No?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I wouldn't any probably not.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
Not even that could help my shadow banning man.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Like Ai and the AI produced video by Joe Mazina.
Speaker 13 (16:16):
Yeah, that's still everything is AI now. So they're getting desperate.
They're trying some AI stuff on the job show. It's like,
I'm like in the next county, got thrown away by
by a tornado and nobody will know.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
They just think it's Ai.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You see the cowgo by him. But it's still be
the same thing.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
Right right, it's a twister.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You you're gonna have to learn do you know Chinese?
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Do you me Chinese? You know?
Speaker 13 (16:42):
I just you know, I tried to learn some Mandarin
and I was actually learning a little bit of Cantonese. First,
because you know, studying, you know, the martial arts instructor
was very very traditional.
Speaker 10 (16:53):
So everything that we did we had to like go
in you.
Speaker 13 (16:55):
Know, since the system was factioned in in the in
the uh in the Canton area. We did speak some Cantonese,
but that's about it. And other ordering food, yeah, ordering food, yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well can't the Cantonese style Chinese food I love. I
think that's great. So I grew up around it. But
I didn't have to know Chinese.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I just had another waiter and pointed the menu.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
That's right, you like that that southern cooking, like me.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Some fried Chinese fried okra And uh so stop it?
Where are we? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Apparently, uh, you know Trump that was going to tank
the economy and ruin everything with his terrors. Chinese companies
now have agreed to move to Texas and Nevada simply
you know that these people, you know, sitting around at night.
Schumer's banging the table, Pelosi's trying to hold her teeth,
then screaming, how do we stop this man? How come
(17:52):
we can't stop this guy?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You got to you got to what the senator or
the congressman from from Connecticut Raskin, Right, Raskin threatening some
of these countries that are working with Trump, or try
to work with Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
He's not always going to be in power. You know,
you'll have to deal with us. I'm thinking, how is
that a comment that holds up America, holds up the US?
Speaker 13 (18:19):
Yeah, well that's not the Democrats aren't. They're they're about
undermining this republic now, you know, they hate that this
is a republic. And hey, if if, if the Democrats
want to do something about China setting up shop here, Hey,
maybe the Democrats can bring back their Anti Cooliact.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
Uh, they can go ahead and bring that one back.
Speaker 13 (18:35):
It's like those darned Chinese, they're taking up all our
jobs and matter of fact, they're even bringing jobs.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
They can't have that. Uh, you know what, we need
to deport them.
Speaker 13 (18:42):
Let's let's put a deporting effort into get into Chinese
out of here and making sure that, yeah, we really
enforce that Anti Cooliact.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You're not hearing a lot about it. But there is
a rise in the Chinese companies coming here now and
opening up their They're manufacturing plants here, which was unheard
of before, but right now they're collapsing under their own weight.
They mean, they were very dependent on our money on
tariffs with US buying things from them, and that.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Is that is drying up really fast.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
They've actually had to turn tankers away from the States
because they wouldn't pay for the terriffs.
Speaker 13 (19:20):
I can dig it, man, they're probably figuring, you know what,
let's just go ahead and make a use of all
that land that we brought up in the US. Anyway,
they own a whole bunch of land here. I figured
their nurse is getting cash in on it.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah. The thing that scares me about that, we'll do that.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But how close the land they purchased is either to
military bases or how much of it is actually farmland,
which is scary because I don't know what they're treating
a farm with and or a lot of I know
that out of Washington State for years they were setting two, three, four, seven,
forty seven loads of fruits, vegetables, that kind of stuff
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to China on a daily basis for our crops because
they couldn't.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
And once again, hang, you know why not. They're probably
just cashing in on that that land here.
Speaker 13 (20:05):
But yeah, that's uh, thank you for reminding of us
of that concern.
Speaker 10 (20:08):
Something to think about. You know where they're gonna you'll be.
Speaker 13 (20:11):
Positioning these plants, you know, in conjunction with our our
our bases. Yeah yeah, our file balloons over them and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
So you know that's well, apparently they were just surveying
to see where they would be buying places through quick
manufacturing plants up and and now the FBI has released
paperwork or or memos where the Biden administration was actually
they were actually working with the Chinese to find out
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about that balloon while it was flying over us anyhow,
and not once asking them to park the puppy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
We'll be back in a minute. I'll go far a
lot more coming up with Zoe. When we return.
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America's news update, I'm John Schaeffer. The Trump administration is
offering migrants one thousand dollars to voluntarily return to their
home countries using a government app.
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What we thought we'd do is a self deport where
we're going to pay each one a certain amount of
money and we're going to get them a.
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Beautiful flight back to where they came from.
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The Department of Homeland Securities says the payment issued after
return is confirmed through the CBP home app, and it's
meant to help cover travel costs. Officials in southern California
say three people are dead after a suspected human smuggling
boat came ashore near del Mar today. The Coastguard reports
that nine people were believed to be on the small
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for those still missing. Wall Street closed lower to start
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US tariff deals. The dial fell ninety eight points, the
S and P five hundred drop thirty six, and the
NASDAC slipped one hundred and thirty three.
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That's right, both of them.
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We are back your host out your host always a plague,
going to have you with me eight five five real
Joe eight five five seven three two five five six.
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We get above, get engaged. B part of the solution. Okay,
you get informed, and he become part of the solution,
and I've got the guy with me. You do identify
the guy, right, I don't want to insult it.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
I do declare, Okay, yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
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or Rachel. But I called him Zoe. We've all called
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Week here soon.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I had. I had Evans say.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It in town, okay, Uh, Julio Rivera was around, and
a few others all at one time, and I was thinking, Wow,
what a what a great thing would have been for all.
I don't know how good it would have gone for everybody,
but if we all got together the wrong place and
just kind of relived old times because they ain't coming back.
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Everybody's gone, you know.
Speaker 13 (26:35):
Yeah, he's uh, he's in He's in uh is he
he's still in Texas and he go back to California.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Who's that? Which one evans in Vegas? Just outside of
the Vegas Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, he goes for the
noise and he goes home for the afternoon.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
He tells me he's in bed, that he's ad COVID
screwed him up so bad. Like timing wise, he's usually
in bed by five o'clock. You know, you said, write
all night and to sleep during the day. The he's
everybody able to come back from that.
Speaker 10 (27:03):
So yeah, that long COVID man, What that sounded like?
I guess that was hard.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
That was hard for some people, really hard for oh bit.
So you know, Jed Saki came out on a podcast
over the weekend. I don't you know, I don't know
how they do this stuff with a straight face, but anyway,
she said that they never noticed his cognitive Joey BEA's
cognitive decline until he did the debate with Trump. And
(27:32):
I was joking with you during the break, I said,
that's like said, I didn't know I was pregnant until
I went in the labor all.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Right, to my water broke.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Oh my goodness, what is this?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
What's this all about?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I just thought I was eating too much. I didn't
know why.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
But no, wait, but anyway, sounds she getting drunk off
her last name. That socking.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
That just that just made that stuff soull for a
lot of people that you know, you want to say,
Soake is a comepie now, just the enthusiasms. Oh man,
I got a drink at this thinking about that woman
screwing up everything.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
With him.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Now, she says on one side of her mouth, she
says she worked with him every day, she saw him
every day. And we've also heard reports that they didn't
see him for weeks at a clip, you know, the
press department there, And so somebody's lying. We already know
we're not gonna be which one is lying, but we
already know they were lying. But again it goes back to, oh,
(28:27):
Kevin McCarthy, that's what I'm throwing here. Kevin McCarthy said
he had met with Joe early on and saw it then.
And anyhow, they're willing to lie to keep power. They
want that power so bad they're willing to throw the
American people under the bus.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It's sad.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Oh sure, well, I mean, they don't really like the
American people as it is. They don't like America.
Speaker 13 (28:51):
Democrats, don't they They've always remembered, they folks say, they've
always hated that this is a republic.
Speaker 10 (28:56):
They want this to be a democracy.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
They want to sucker people in and to what they
feel is right and what they dig and get the
popular vote concerning it, because that's what the democracy is.
But the thing about democracy is that what's popular about
a vote or whatever policy that you want is a
policy that's rooted in selfishness, a policy that satisfies our
(29:18):
self righteousness concerning to whatever is seen as righteous or virtuous.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
In the culture that day. And that's what Democrats want
to win.
Speaker 13 (29:25):
On man, they hated that, you know, this is a
republic where our rights and our laws are founded in
the Word of God, the actual granted.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
Of our rights. They hate that.
Speaker 13 (29:35):
They want the power of the majority to be able
to vote that stuff away. So that's what they dig.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
Man. But here's the thing that's sad, Joe is that.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
Yeah, Joe Biden, we've always known that this person's god.
I don't know personally, I think he's evil genius.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
I just think he's evil genius.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
But because you drink is what's going on?
Speaker 13 (29:53):
No, no, no, no, because Hey, the reason why I
go with that, Joe, because here's the thing. If Biden
is Offen Rocker and all that sort of stuff, y'all listen,
that means that that was the guy who was able
to steal the White.
Speaker 10 (30:05):
House from Donald Trump.
Speaker 13 (30:06):
That's why I'm trying to tell you he's like, Look,
you might want to think he's just the evil genius.
Because if that's the case and Trump was able to
let this nut steal the White House away from him,
that doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And I think it's bigger and deeper than that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You're on the right track, but I think it's bigger
and deeper than I don't think Joey b could have
thought through the different things.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
On his own.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
But between the deep deep State and the people that
were already there and Barack the Obama and and all
of them. I mean, you have a whole list of
people that were there.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You don't think.
Speaker 10 (30:40):
No, I don't know, And I'll tell you why, because
what I said, Do you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Think Joey B did all that on his own?
Speaker 10 (30:46):
No? No, what I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
What I'm saying is I was saying, is that Trump
was supposed.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
To drain the swamp.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
It's like, okay, and he dropped the ball on it.
And I warned about this.
Speaker 13 (30:59):
I say, look, man, these things he just this rug
gonna get pulled up from under you. And the thing
is one is like, because you got too much Republican
party that doesn't know who the deep state is. They
don't know who they are. They think they that they do.
They keep talking about this deep state. What they don't
know is that the deep state is just the reiteration
of the invisible empire founded by the Democrat Party, you know,
(31:20):
through the KKK, that is who in the KKK saying look, man,
we're gonna trade in these white robes and we're gonna
put on black robes.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
We go.
Speaker 13 (31:29):
We're gonna be in your judicial system, We're gonna be
in the education system, we're gonna be in the news.
We're gonna be in everything. That is where the Democrat
Party is. That is your deep state and your government,
all that sort of stuff. And Trump had no idea
who he was dealing with.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
He was gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I don't think he realized how deep it went, how
correct it was, right it was, that is, yes, you're correct. Uh,
it's it's amazing. And and they're into everything. But you know,
growing up where I grew up and having not having
Mafaye ties, but knowing people that were in the system
(32:07):
if you would, uh, they were.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
They were into everything.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
They had judges and cops and and support people and
you know what I'm saying. I mean they they had
people in every aspect of government so they could get
That's how they got away with so much. And that's
why when the FBI really really was more of a
true policing system, that's why the FBI had to come
(32:31):
in and cleaned up the place. So anyway, you saw
the picture of.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Pope Trump, I have not. He is I'll send it
to you. You actually just google it.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Right, he is the king of troll He actually should
have just a picture of him out there with troll
under it and king because first he comes out and
he's in an interview with somebody and he just says,
they said, what do they go about a new pope?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Who should be the pope? Because I should be the pope.
I would do a great job. Now that's Trump's character, right,
just whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And so the left goes crazy. Somebody puts out a
picture of him in the pope where Yalia, you know,
with a fish hat and everything you look at like
the pope and he's got his hand in the pope
position with a and I.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Thought it was hilarious. My Catholic friends thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
The left is going crazy over it because how dare
he even consider himself that kind of godly? Now here's
my joe, Are you ready for this fun here's my joke.
These are from from of the from some of the
most ungodly people on the planet, upset that Trump is
mocking God.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Go ahead, have fun with it.
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Man, I'll tell you what. And that's the funny thing
about about the left. And uh.
Speaker 13 (33:55):
And you know me, man, I have no love for
any religion. I don't care what the religion it is.
I follow Jesus. I don't follow religion. You know, you
know how I roll. But uh, but you got the
left who tries to play outraged and h about anything
that they they sniff out as anti submitted, which like
y'all are the most anti Semitic people. You're Democrats, man, Democrats,
(34:17):
they once again who found a KKK and hate the Jews,
hate them to this day. And it's like everything everything
in the world is a fault of the Jews.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
That's what's coming. So but they want to act like,
you know, they're.
Speaker 13 (34:28):
Offended because somebody said something that doesn't resonate with them,
right concerning Jewish people. And it's the same little who
hates the Catholics more than Democrats, right is. And a
lot of a lot of Catholics are Democrats. But but
the Democrats they hate Catholics.
Speaker 10 (34:44):
So why would they care? But of course we know why.
Speaker 13 (34:47):
It's a rhetorical question, but you know they need to
ask that themselves, like what do you guys care?
Speaker 10 (34:51):
Man?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
You know what they don't realize is they would have
so much more success moving forward, which over the South they.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Would shut up, you know, the anytime you know as
well as I do.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Every time they call out him as a thug or
a thief or or a crook or whatever. You win
a certain side of society that has been marked with
these forever.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
They have been tagged.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
With these names, are accused of these things, and they
relate it to him, if.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You would, in a way. So it's kind of like,
shut up.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
You realize that every time you blame him for something,
you have a whole bunch of average jos sitting out
there going, yeah, yeah, I got arrested for that once before. Yeah, man,
he must be doing something right, because that's what they're doing.
Speaker 13 (35:39):
It's like, shut up, now, Well, they wouldn't be democrats
if they if they shut up, and especially if they
shut up concerning things that made sense, you know, or
if they made since it is that, they wouldn't be democrats.
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Joe as being your house. But it's a pleasure to
have you with me.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Eight five five real Joe eight five five seven three
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I'll thoughts our racial joins me. We loved when refer
to him as so. He is the host of the
Zopian Den, the Anti Funny Duddy Bible Study, and the
Zoe Law said, Zoe, thanks for.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Being with me.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
I don't know, man, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Hey, I hope you have vodka in that uh the
coffee muggy years. You're gonna need it here in a second,
But no vodka.
Speaker 10 (42:09):
Prove it. See no flame. Is vodka flammable? I probably
wouldn't be a good test. I wouldn't because.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Let's stick a match in the cup and prove it
to both of us. So, no, there is no alcohol
on either set. I guarantee you all right. We're all
we're just drunk in the spirit. As I used to
say here, hey recent now, now, this guy has been
doing these research papers for years and he's well respected
(42:39):
in the Christian community. And when he does these I
mean they're they're double and triple and quadruple checked and nothing.
They wouldn't make any mistakes. But doctor George Barnard, he's
the director of the research and that was on a
Christian university and a cultural research center and recently been
in polling and surveying Christians across the country.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
He came up with some pretty scary stuff. And now
when I told Zoe about these, he went, yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
I can see that, like wow, okay, But the average
American he didn't serve. He went to average Americans, average
adult Americans first and found that sixty six percent of adults,
non religious adults agree or don't believe or reject absolute
(43:28):
moral truth. When he went to Christian adults, it was
all different by one. Christian adults at a sixty seven
percent rate don't believe in absolute moral truths. And I
said to you, Zoe during the break, I said, well,
(43:49):
then how do they hang their life on Jesus?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
How do you know he's an absolute truth? He may
not be. This doesn't This didn't shake you at all.
You just went, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 13 (44:00):
Yeah, man, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah,
that's not surprising. It's still it's like ouch, man, that's
you know, you register it but you know, here's the
thing for those that don't believe in the absolute truth
or absolute moral truth or which whichever. If it's sixty
seven percent, well once again that they just prove, you know,
they just prove that the Lord is telling the truth.
(44:20):
He says, the road is narrow, man, Why does the
road to destruction roads there?
Speaker 10 (44:24):
You guys were on the wide road. You're sixty seven.
Speaker 13 (44:26):
Percent that don't believe in moral truth or absolute truth.
All right, well, thank you for proving me right again.
And the thing that they need to understand about, you know,
because people, well, this this is gone. This has gone
on even before man was creative. This is going on
with the angels who want their own truth. They don't
want to believe in absolute truth. They want their own truth.
That's always been a problem. Right, But these people right here,
(44:50):
you know, the Lord himself is the truth. He is
the He came as the truth in card. The truth
has always been here, right, truth that ever exists, The
truth just is. And if you're following Jesus and you
don't accept that, then you don't even really believe in Jesus.
You just made up an idol. You're violating commandment to
take the Lord's name in vain one and you've made
(45:11):
an engraving image.
Speaker 10 (45:12):
Of whatever you think that Jesus is.
Speaker 13 (45:14):
And you've just made an idol and gave it a
nickname called Jesus.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
All right, that's not serving Christ.
Speaker 13 (45:20):
Absolute truth is embodied in Christ himself. And this is
the thing that people need to understand about truth. You
don't get to just make up your own truth and
how it makes you feel and all that sort of stuff.
That's one of the reasons why the Lord came, is
Jesus as it is and contestify of himself.
Speaker 10 (45:35):
It's like, look, whatever you think your truth is, it ain't.
But I the living truth.
Speaker 13 (45:42):
I can testify of myself and let you know that
if you're in error or are my frequency?
Speaker 10 (45:47):
Are you smell at what I'm stepping in? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 13 (45:50):
So anyway, for these people, these people trying to talk
about that.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
So here's some recent stafts. This is what they call
it religious alignment in this country. Christianity is down seven
percent from twenty twenty to sixty six percent. No faith,
no belief at all is up to twenty three percent.
(46:15):
It's up ten percent from twenty twenty. The one that
was interesting first, Islam is up twelve percent from two
percent in twenty twenty. And let me see Buddhism, which
is interesting. So it's up fifty six percent from twenty twenty.
(46:35):
Which I know, I don't want to beat on any religion,
but it's a very it's a very mellow religious believe
if you would, you know, I don't know any.
Speaker 13 (46:46):
Way to do it, you know what I mean, you
could be pretty uh pretty slack on it.
Speaker 10 (46:50):
It's like, well, what it's what eight noble truths?
Speaker 13 (46:53):
I think I can learn eight noble truths either, and
I can learn ten commandments.
Speaker 10 (46:56):
Yeah, I'll go with the Buddhist.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Or stick to them.
Speaker 10 (46:58):
Yeah right, yeah, oh yeah try that, eh.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
And ready for this one. You look at you're gonna
love this. So this is gonna send you through the roof.
The source of moral.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Truth for today's Americans feelings and personal Emericans seventy four
percent marked O one.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
The I like this to do law, public policy, and
political leaders is up at forty one percent.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Let me see scientific mathematical claims. Is that forty percent,
Social norms and majority beliefs, cultural traditions forty percent. I
mean and personal experience, which is the worst way to
look at anything. That's at twenty one percent. And the
one that's really scary is family and friends are down
(47:46):
at eighteen percent. So even your mom, your dad, the
people that love you, care about you and don't want
to see he harms you.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
You don't trust.
Speaker 10 (47:55):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 13 (47:56):
Once again, it was speaking of that absolute truth the
Lord warned about that tells us that this generation.
Speaker 10 (48:01):
And how it's gonna be cold.
Speaker 13 (48:02):
And and uh and self loving and follow after these
things man, that are basically gonna lead to destruction. As
the word says, there's a way that seems right to
a man, and this way leads to death. You want
to follow your feelings, you want to follow that heart
that's desperately wicked and all that.
Speaker 10 (48:14):
Sort of stuff.
Speaker 13 (48:15):
Well, the culture is gonna become more caustic because of that. Yeah, Families,
they're gonna feel more strange and stuff like that, because
y'all are following after this sort of And the Lord
himself said, man, don't don't assume that I come to
bring peace. I come to bring the sword I'm gonna drive.
I'm gonna drive a sword between fathers and sons mothers
and daughters.
Speaker 10 (48:33):
You know, because why why would I do that?
Speaker 13 (48:35):
Because you guys are if you guys stay and hitch
to each other, are following a road to destruction that's
gonna lead you to hell. And I'll separate you by
the sword if I have to to keep you from
doing that. And unfortunately, Joe, see, the Lord is being
sold to people under.
Speaker 10 (48:51):
You know, the gimmick of love and acceptance. People just
want to they want to.
Speaker 13 (48:56):
Feel like, no matter what, they're loved, and that's you know, yeah,
we all want to feel loved, but they want to
feel loved unconditionally and no matter what.
Speaker 10 (49:03):
They're not selling Jesus for who he actually says he is.
Speaker 13 (49:06):
It's like, man, I ain't no unconditional you know, all
accepted hippie.
Speaker 10 (49:11):
I have conditions.
Speaker 13 (49:13):
I got conditions, and I'll tell you straight up what
is right and what's wrong. And more importantly, before you
even get to what's writer gets wrong.
Speaker 10 (49:20):
You need to get who I am.
Speaker 13 (49:22):
And I tell you exactly who I am and who
he is isn't being taught, Joe.
Speaker 10 (49:27):
There be people are.
Speaker 13 (49:28):
Being sold on being loved for no matter what and unconditionally,
and that's why there's the decline because that experience isn't
being lived up to, and they're left disillusioned, and they're
left feeling empty because they never found out who Jesus
is in the first place.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
They're not being taught.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
One of the things that Barna says here that I
totally agree with that I've actually been spewing it myself,
is he says, the attributes or this confusion is tied
to a lack of boundaries set by this their parents
when these kids were growing up. And what truth is
you know, I mean the parents did they go you know,
not just saying because I said so, because you know,
(50:09):
you tell you get this, because it's the right thing
to do.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
It's what God commands us to do. That's it.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
There is no right or left, there is no middle
of the right. No, this is what the word says,
this is what you do. And a discussion and parents
will not take that tone with their kids because they said,
you know, they have a better chance where they kind
of acquiesced to them a little bit and help them
along like stop it.
Speaker 10 (50:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
And the thing is, well, the way it tells us
like don't provoke your children a wrath raise them up
in the instruction of the Lord. And that's important, raise
them up in the instruction of the Lord because when
we're talking.
Speaker 10 (50:44):
Torah, that's what Tora is. It's the law and it's
the instruction. Well, the Lord is the living Torah.
Speaker 13 (50:49):
In order for your kids to have this moral integrity,
the kid has to be raised up knowing not just
what the law is, but who it is. It's not
just the point of because because God said so well,
who is this God that this book says qualifies as
this person who orders me around and just what he
does what the kid has to be trained up in
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who the Lord is. It has to be pointed out,
the profile of who he is, and of course the
way that they can understand it. But it can't just
be seen because God said so well, who is he
to be able to tell me these things? And the
Bible does spell.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
It out to us, well, it is, and you have
to teach your kids how to live that out.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
You have to teach your kids how to how to.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Deal with stuff and the adversity is going to come
up with and still still maintain.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
The other quick thing on this on this was interesting too, was.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
That two out of three adults believe truth is conditional,
and more than four out of five Americas are comfortable
drawing from multiple sources or basis of truth. Even people
who say they believe the Bible. It's like, no, wow,
because the Bible is where the truth is from. If
you believe the Bible, it is the one source you
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go to for your truth. All right, Amen, before we
went out of time, tell people where they get your music,
where they can check on the study.
Speaker 13 (52:06):
It's just thanks, thanks man. I'm at Bronze Serpentmedia dot com.
Hope you guys come check out for check us out
for Zopium den the Zoloft in my music project sledg X.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, and you know, God bless for what you do.
I appreciate you guys. Check out check out the Bible.
The anti fuddy it is anti fuddy Duddy. Definitely sure
and I'm sure Jesus would approve.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Anyways, back a little bit, dunk off far a lot.
We're coming up on the Drums Show.