May 6, 2025 • 54 mins
Karen Siegemund Joins Joe to discuss the confirmation farce going on in DC and with Lawfare..
Karen Siegemund's dad's book "As I remember it" was Born in Berlin in 1928, Ralf Siegemund lived in the vortex of one of the greatest catastrophes wrought by man against his fellow man. These memoirs, written 50 years after the beginning of World War II, Tune in and learn.
Dr. Karen Siegemund, President of the American Freedom Alliance, joins Joe to discuss.
AND as always, we’ll be covering current events, including those weird news items that you may not have heard or read in the mainstream media accounts.
Be sure to tune in!
Karen Siegemund's dad's book "As I remember it" was Born in Berlin in 1928, Ralf Siegemund lived in the vortex of one of the greatest catastrophes wrought by man against his fellow man. These memoirs, written 50 years after the beginning of World War II, Tune in and learn.
Dr. Karen Siegemund, President of the American Freedom Alliance, joins Joe to discuss.
AND as always, we’ll be covering current events, including those weird news items that you may not have heard or read in the mainstream media accounts.
Be sure to tune in!
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is going on here? Supreme Court? You know they're recently
UH ruled six to three to allow the administration to
enforce a ban on transgender troops serving in the military,
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and The New York Times reported that the ruler was
brief unsigned. He gave no real reason. And I think
the reason is is that when it comes to the military,
they've ruled in the past that scote is for all.
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I mean that the.
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President pretty much has total control of what's going on
with the military. He is the commander in chief and
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let's not be stupid here. I mean, if he's executing people, yeah,
we're gonna stop that, you know what I'm saying. The
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course three liberal members Justice is solo, Mayora, Kagan and
Brown Jackson. They noted the cents, but provided also no reasoning. Really,
that's simple. Paula Reids, CNN chief Legal affairs correspondent, called
it a big victory for the Trump administration. Now, under
this band, service members who have a current diagnosed as
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a history or exhibit symptoms consistent with gender dys for you,
notice that this is right, gender dysphoria will be processed
for a separation from military service. The Pentagon will also
not allowed transgender Americans to join any branch in the military.
At this point, we'd explain that the administration's long game
is again all of it's illegally legal challenges cases before
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the Supreme Court and hope that most, if not all
of them will ultimately be upheld.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Read said.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The Trump's lawyers keep telling her that they were confident
if they could get this policy and many others before
the super majority of Conservatives at the time, they put
that how about if they get it from the Supreme
Court and follow on. What were the reasons that the
three judges or the three justices Excuse me, I didn't
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go along with the fact that the president. I don't
care whether it's to Obama right and uh Trump Biden.
They are the supreme commander for the military. On social media,
the lgbtwo Q plus journalist Aaron Reid wrote, it's absolutely
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devastating ruins the Supreme Court is allowed to transgender military band.
To go into fact, the band explicitly called transgender people
dishonorable for being transgender.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
No it didn't. It did not.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I mean, and here's the other thing. They're not banned
from anything else. Okay, really that's simple, not banned from
anything else. So let's go to suffirm the Trump's band
on transgender service members. This is a huge win for
Trump maga And as I keep telling you, according to
this columnist, you all read twenty twenty four all wrong.
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It was never the eggs of the groceries or gas
or any of that. It was d I transgender l Yes, right,
that's that's the whole thing it was all about.
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This is what I mean.
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it's not. Broadcaster Dean Dean Obadallah posted per Donald Trump,
a patriotic transgender American is not allowed to serve in
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our military. But the Secretary of Defense can be drunk
incompetent biggot who potentially shares classified See.
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How they do that? Don't you love that?
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You know, just again, just amazing. Do you know that
President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden at the time
and the only two when he had a big mission
like with Osamen, a lot of mission, they would never
any other president would have never gave out the name
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it's amazing how they got away with that which caused
to have people killed. And this here with Donald Trump
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The fact that Joe Biden, you know, devastated the military
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Trump brought it back to a certain point.
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Talk about a bunch of just just dishonest people. But
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discussing this and a few other things also, Karen, she's
the president of the American Freedom Alliance. And Karen, thanks
for being with me.
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Great to be with you, Joe as always.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, you know, Karen, before we get rolling, we lost,
we both lost. Probably you were more of his friend
than I was, but I knew him well and he
knew who I was, and that David Horowitz passed away
and I didn't know this, but I guess he had
been dealing with cancer for quite some time.
Speaker 11 (16:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and valiant in every way.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he.
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I had him on the show several times and the
thing I actually played the last interview I did with
him last week, and man, he was going off.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I made.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I made a big mistake with him. I called the
Democrats liberals and right know on certain terms that they
didn't deserve to be called democrats.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And he explained why. You had some times with them too.
Speaker 11 (16:39):
Oh yeah, I'm so glad to be speaking of him.
The man was an extraordinary titan. He was a warrior,
absolute warrior, and he also fought valiantly against cancer, which
did win. But we still value him for all the
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fight that he gave in everything. I mean, just extraordinary efforts. Always.
He was the most prolific author. Yes Afa had him
speak once. In twenty twenty nineteen. We did our Long
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March to the Institution's conference where we had him opened
the conference because the whole idea of the long March
through the institutions is that the left, not liberals, the leftist,
the communists have made their way into every one of
our institutions, being civic, political, anything, you name it, sports, church, education.
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We talk about this all the time, and he was
one of the first to really describe this and to
address it in such forth right terms and with such
great clarity on one of the things that he says.
He said was to the left, the issue is never
the issue. The issue is always the revolution. And that's
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exactly right. And I know that everything that we talk
about they say one thing, be it compassion and being
nice to the homeless, and diversity, and you know, all
of this complete garbage. Do it for the children, gender
affirming care, you name it. It's not for the thing
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as ver because it's never. It's never. None of their efforts, ever,
not one time, has actually benefited that group that they
say it will do. Who does it benefit them, Who
does it benefit their machine? Who does it benefit globalists?
It never benefits who they pretend to want to address
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or to ameliorate any problem. So David was extremely clear
about this. So we had him open that conference and
talk about this the Long March, and we had Charlie
Kirk close it, which was just to my thinking, and yes,
I put it together, but it was the perfect bookending
of a remarkable conference. We also honored him, I don't
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I think it was twenty seventeen. We chose to award
him with the American Freedom Alliance's Hero of Conscience Award.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh yeah, I remember that, yep.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
And it was. We had many hundreds of people at
the Hilton Universal City we honored him, and it was magnificent.
And we also honored two other people, no, one other person,
Phil Haney. We created an award for Phil Haney, the
American Freedom Award, and now we've lost them both. And
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I think it's just so important while while these titans
are doing the things that they do, that they get
the accolades and honor and respect and admiration while they're
still alive, because they don't do it for that, None
of them, none of the heroes I know, right, they
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don't do it for the accolades at all. And they're
even humbled, if not even humiliated, to be called a hero.
That's not why they do it. So David was absolutely
a titan. He was a hero. What he spoke eloquently
and is he just he wrote magnificently, and was utterly
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fearless and tireless in his fight against the communists, whatever form.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And to think about it, he grew up, as he
would say, in a communist number one. And on top
of all of that, his biggest beef with me was
that he said, look at he said, I fought for
free speeds at Berkeley, you know, when when the shoe
was on the other foot, the conservatives would trying to
keep it from happening. And he said, and now I
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can't even speak there.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
What does that tell you? Right right? You know?
Speaker 11 (21:13):
It's you know, they say the party. I didn't leave
the party. The party left me. On the other hand,
I mean his whole conversion story of I think it
was a friend of his was assassinated by the black Panthers,
who on his side. He had once in his book
Radical Son is what kicked the whole thing off of
his going from being a red diaper baby, the child
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of communists, and a communist himself and real admirer of
the Soviet Union and wanting to bring similar revolution here
and having the the scales torn from his eyes, the
wool from his eyes, and seeing the truth and then
dedicating his light is just every breathing moment to exposing it.
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So when he talked at the Communists, he knows where
if he speaks or folks.
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Yeah, all right, well we got to go for a
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We got to go for a quick break. Be back
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We are back, Joe, missing your host. Always a pleasure
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Eight five five real Joe eight five five seventy three
two five five sixty three. Get involved, get engaged, be
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pretty fast. But uh, and I do appreciate the time
you spend with me. But I've got doctor Karen Sigmund
on with me. I always appreciate her time. Love when
she's on. And uh, Karen is a president of the
American Freedom Alliance. And Karen, because I know I'm gonna
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get to yaking and then I'm gonna forget. Tell people
what American Freedom Alliances and how they can help.
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Ah.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
Yes, and by the way, cool having Rocky or a
picture show. The American Freedom Alliances is a nonprofit organization
based in Los Angeles, and we host events of all kinds,
including massive conferences that seek to highlight the various threats
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which Western civilization, generally in America spaces. So we believe
very strongly that the leftist media and all ideas institutions
do everything to conceal the actual agitations that they are
affecting against us, and AFA does what we can to
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reveal exactly how they're seeking to undermine Western civilization. And
again we applauded David Horowitz for his work in the
exact same arena.
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And you have great guests at your at your meetings
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Speaker 11 (28:52):
Yes, yeah, we really do, thank you. I was just
reminded we had had Riley Gaines, he know an event
last year, we had War on Women, Frank Gaffney, We've
had Steve Bannon, Ed Dowd, as we mentioned, Charlie Kirk
and David Horowitz. Just tremendous, tremendous people.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Oh yeah, and I've had Barack Laurie on the show.
You've had him out there too. Barack is an amazing,
very very intelligent man, so I always appreciate him as well.
As like I said, you's just got to really a
star studed lineup of people, real people that are willing
to fight for this country.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
So thanks for doing that's with your organization, ye, honor.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
So let me let me bring it down a little
bit and talk to you about Jensaki, who apparently was
drinking her namesake the whole time she was in a
White House, and she did what was it, a podcast
over the weekend, and she actually told the person that
nobody and she didn't notice any of Joe Biden's decline
(29:59):
until he did the debate with President Trump. And I'm sorry,
but I said, that's like, you know, it's like telling
somebody you didn't know you were pregnant until you went
into labor. I mean, you walked with it every day,
you saw it every day, You dealt with him every day,
and you even admitted it in one or two of
your press conferences that you hadn't talked to him in
weeks at times. So you cannot tell me that you
(30:23):
didn't know. And this is what they do. They cover up,
They cover up, and some of them have come forward now,
and some of them have written books on his decline.
I mean they they come off as just a bunch
of liars, a bunch of con men.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When this happens. You don't believe her, do you.
Speaker 11 (30:44):
I don't believe her when she uses words like if then,
But I just there's not a word from her mouth
that I think one can't believe. And I didn't make
that expression up, I forget who did. It's not a word,
it's the truth, you know. To me, Her and Kareem
KJP if I'm remembering those correctly, were as was everybody
(31:11):
in the quote Biden administration, including quote Biden. Not one
of them, not a single one, bootage, you name it.
Not one was the result was appointed or hired as
a result of merit. Not a single one, not one
of them, was any good at their prior jobs. At
(31:32):
this job, they also seem to be completely and I
mean entirely one thousand percent clueless as to what the
actual job in a rational world would entail. And this
is one of the contrasts that we're seeing with Donald
Trump's administration, which is in fact Donald Trump's administration as
opposed to everything Biden, which none of it was actually Biden.
(31:56):
So you've got a contrast between a real administration that
we have now and the stake shadow puppet thing that
was going on before and to them again, you know,
to cite Horowitz, the job of being a spokesperson under
the Biden regime was not being a spokesperson but about
(32:18):
pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. The job of being
transportation secretary. Wasn't about transportation secretary. It was about having
the first gay or they claim to first gay whatever
who cares. That had absolutely nothing to do with his
anything that he was able to do. And he never
(32:39):
took transportation seriously. And in fact, all the air traffic situations,
the catastrophes that we're seeing, those are the consequences of
his policies. So you know, we need to flush that out.
And the train wreck in East Palestine and so on,
that was him. Just all you name it, Rachel Levine
(33:04):
or what Richard Levine, Come on, this was our secretary
of health. It made a mockery of absolutely everything.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
And I'm going to.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
Add the soakey to this because we always knew it
was never about actually revealing anything. Their entire job was obfuscation.
So whatever she says, we can't believe. And we know
that not a single one of them knew, that pretended,
or had in their consciousness that Biden was actually the president.
(33:33):
So they were all taking it every minute of every day.
And for her to say we didn't notice the decline, frankly,
it might even be entirely real, because none of them
may It's possible they never actually saw him. Entirely likely
that Jilly ran it or Hunter ran it, or Obama ran.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
It, or.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
Susan Rice ran it, or in any of the puppet masters.
It may have been that they didn't see him for
months at a time, because whenever we saw him in public,
he was a doddering old fool, stumbling reading. Remember you
would read words from the teleprompter like smile or pause.
(34:12):
He would read those words. He would wander off and
get lost, he would fall.
Speaker 18 (34:17):
It's just.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
So whatever he says is a lie. But I also
think it's really important that we recognize the notion of
telling the truth was and is completely irrelevant to them.
So to say to her you should have been telling
the truth, or you should tell us the truth now,
(34:40):
I think one would get nothing but a blank stare,
because that was never What are you even talking about?
It's not a value to the left. As I have said,
if the truth were relevant to the left, there would
be no left. And as Dennis Prager has always said,
the truth is not a value that the Democrats care about.
It's it's just as absurd a notion as to say,
(35:04):
you know, can you fly? It's just a silly idea
that has no connection to the real world. The notion
of doing the actual job that is described as idiotic.
Telling the truth has no place. That's not the job.
And contrast with the absolutely lovely Press secretary we have now,
(35:27):
who needs no notebook, who's just speaks truth flatly, with
no filter. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. So it's not an age thing.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
You know, I got to tell you something.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Think about the people that Trump has surrounded himself with
rights Press secretary, you know, Christy Nome. And we go
to the list of all of them, all right, Telsey Gabbert,
these are not, for lack of a better way of
putting it, these are not soft women. But for a
man who supposedly hates women, he's very confused. Maybe he's
(36:01):
got Alzheimer's right.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Well right, And as an anti semi obviously he's terrible
at this because he's hired you know, many Jews, as
a racist, he's terrible. Just he's really bad at all
of those things. It's all of those things that everybody
throws mud at. But the bottom line, though, is that
he doesn't hire anybody because of this box checking none
(36:28):
of them. Does he have gay people, yes, does he
have people of all races. Yes, women, Yes, that's not
the point. The point is he hires the best person
for the job regardless, where as a prior administration, whoever
at all was it was all a box checking situations.
And again compare this Caroline Levitt to the prior one
(36:51):
similar age. So it's not age, it's not a generational thing.
If one has absolute command and desire to disseminate the
truth and to inform about the realities of what's going on,
(37:12):
and the other one, Saki only ever sought to conceal,
to obfuscate, July, to disseminate false narratives. So one has integrity,
an honesty, and a desire to inform, and the other
has neither of those first two that a desire merely
to propaganda.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And well, we got we got to go for the break,
so you hold that.
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When we come back, we're gonna finish with that and
talk about the thirty million that finally went to Ashley Babbitt.
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Are back. Joe was in your host I was replay.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
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Speaker 5 (43:15):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
That you spending with us here on the air, texting, tweeting,
just being a part of a conversation. You do have
a chat room at the show Joe Manzina dot com,
and I do appreciate the time that you spend with this.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Look.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I know there's like three thousand other shows out there
you can be listening to, and it shows in this one,
and i'd like to believe it shows me what a
high IQ you have, but you know, you never know.
So I do appreciate you listening in and hopping online.
Karen Segment or doctor Karen Sigmund joins me to discuss
all things crazy because there is a lot of them,
(43:51):
you know, And we were talking about Jen Saki, who
obviously did way too many drugs and noticed that Joe
Biden was not.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
With it, totally put it that way.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So but I was trying to tell you during the break,
I almost when I talk about women like sake, and
then I'm just a woman hater, you know, That's really
what it boils down to. And then we were talking
about the fact that for a guy that doesn't really
like women or gay people or colored people, he sure
(44:23):
doesn't know how to fix that because Trump has surrounded himself.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
With those people.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So I just think it's hilarious and they'll still lie
about it, they'll still call him, the same thing was
just amazing. You know, Kieran, your dad, Your dad did
a book it's called As I Remember It And he
was born in Berlin in nineteen twenty eight, and man,
(44:49):
you know, he lived through, as you say, one of
the biggest catastrophes in human history.
Speaker 11 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And so when people call Trump Hitler, when people call
people like you and I Nazis, it's gonna hit hard
for you, you know, and understanding truly what happened, doesn't it.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
It's it's so beyond comprehension insulting to toss this around.
It's such a massive trivialization of the horror that people
went through, and that, by the way, the entire world
went through of course the Holocaust, yes, absolutely, the horrors
(45:37):
of that, and to trivialize that, it's it's unbearable that
the world was left broken and in the shambles. And
this was this was Adolf Hitler's doing, This was Germany's doing.
This was from a country that went from a reasonable
democracy to breaking the world in a very short time.
(46:02):
Twelve years was the duration of the Third Reich, instead
of the millennium that he had planned. And by the way,
since you brought it up. May second is nineteen forty five,
so exactly eighty years ago is when the Soviet Army
marched in to Berlin and quote liberated it.
Speaker 13 (46:22):
We were the Allies.
Speaker 11 (46:24):
We liberated Berlin eighty years ago on May eighth. And
I mentioned this because my dad was in downtown Berlin
when this happened. He was there during the Soviet barrage.
He was about a quarter miles from Hitler's bunker. He
was right there all happened, and he was seventeen years old.
(46:47):
He was just a kid. To compare Trump to, I mean,
it's it's unbearably horrible. Yeah, it indicates such a paucity
of understanding of the real dimensions of the catastrophe. You
(47:11):
don't just to call somebody Hitler because you don't like them.
Hitler is just you know, he's in the in the
top maybe five of purest evil creatures that have walked
the earth.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
If you ask, you know, if you're oh, yeah, I mean,
show me how many Jews Trump has guessed. Okay, I
should be honest about it, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
And this is the funny thing about this.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
When you talked to college level kids, okay, at college
aged kids.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
And you asked them about Hitler. They don't know who
he is. He was he was a bad guy. No, No,
he wasn't a bad guy. He was a monster. He
was an animal. Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And what did he do? They don't know what he did.
You know, he killed a lot of people. No, he
didn't just kill people, Okay, he tortured he I mean,
it was just disgusting the way he killed people.
Speaker 11 (48:08):
And this comes back to how our educe. You know,
you and I are common ground here. The fact that
the schools do not teach this, nor do they teach
the evils of communism, the evils of Stalin, of the
Soviet Union, of Paul Toat of China. None of this
(48:29):
is taught. But what is taught is that Jefferson had slaves,
and America was born on the back of slavery, and
they were all a bunch of evil people. And there's
no redeeming qualities to the United States at all. Our
constitution is terrible. We are a nation not worthy of anything,
(48:51):
let alone the pride, the gratitude, all those those things
that underlie it. So we are literally taught nothing about
the evils that do exist, and instead the good that
does exist is cast as evil. So it's I'm outraged
at the ignorance of our youth, but they have been
(49:15):
robbed and education. Really I'm writing about this wide or
if I mentioned it a few weeks ago, but education
is a national security issue. You may vulnerable when you
don't teach about good and evil, and you don't teach
that what's good is good and what is evil is evil,
(49:36):
and you wind up graduating kids who think China is
in fact a better, more civil, civic minded society than us.
I mean, it takes a special kind of derangement to
a crafted curricula to teach this, but that's what they've done.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
That's because they're teaching them that. Look, you go to China,
nobody's without a job, nobody's.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
Sleeping in the streets. You know, everybody is. It's like,
are you really awesome? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Exactly, Socialism, communism, they don't even know what Marxism is.
And that's because and here I'm going to slap our
conservative people, that's because you guys would not take up
the torch. You would not become teachers, you would not
go to universities, you would not push back. They they
virtually walked in at some period it started just taking over, right.
Speaker 11 (50:34):
And you know who was one of the most the
loudest advocates who did go into the school, who was
one of the greatest advocates for freedom on college campuses.
This is right back how you started the show, Joe
with such pressions David Horowitz. Yep, that's exactly what he did.
(50:55):
And that's and that's why the book ending that conference
with Horowitz opening and Charlie Kirk clothing. That's also what
Turning Point does.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Yes, and Charlie, we're still a college grad, right that
that is correct.
Speaker 11 (51:10):
He is not, but he recognizes that this is the
way back. I actually go younger than that. I think
you do too, K twelve. Certainly high schools by the
time that they're in college mostly they're kind of lost anyway, Yes,
(51:30):
because the indoctrination has already taken deep root. So yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Know, but they have not to interrupt you. But they
had a harder time.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Back in the seventies because the family was still intact.
The family was still the important thing. The family was
still the center of your your protection and your security,
if you would. But they've gone through the decades now
and they've made the family. They've made mom and dad
the enemy and the professor is your friend.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Correct, And that straight.
Speaker 11 (52:01):
Up Marxism dissolved the family, and you weaken the greatest
bulwark against collectivism, socialism, communism, which is, as you say,
the family, you destroy that you take out dads. So
taking out dads not only destroys the family, which it does,
but it also removes that key paternal influence that kids
(52:27):
absolutely need and by the way, that the wives need too.
So you've broken it, and you've you've robbed the children
of a very important influence. And now there's no the
building blocks of society have been shattered, and there's no bulwark.
And people, we all recognize we have a need for form,
(52:49):
We have a need for to be part of something.
And the unit that you must be part of is
your family. You broke break that, you also break society.
You break the culture, you make it anomic, you break
the churches. Oh yeah, people need to turn to something,
and what they wind up turning to are various of
(53:10):
these tribes that the Left creates. Black Lives Matter was
an absolute offshoot of all of this. We all have
a need to belong and when you break those effective
institutions that people gravitate towards and always have and that
have been part of our civic fabric. You break all that,
(53:31):
they're going to turn to unsavory, ineffective, unhealthy areas. And
that's what we're seeing. We're seeing this breakdown. At the
same time, though, we're seeing a resurgence because there are
people who recognize churches are Churches are starting to be stronger,
(53:53):
civicogues are starting to be stronger. School now Trump is
standing strong in schools against these ideologies.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Okay, but we're up against it, so quickly tell them
where they find you quickly.
Speaker 11 (54:04):
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Speaker 3 (54:19):
All right, you're gonna get You're gonna get cut off
because this is radio and they don't care. So God
bless you for what you're doing. And we'll be back
with you a couple of weeks. Thanks so much, Karen,
my pleasure, Joe, your host. Guys, don't go anywhere. You're
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Speaker 5 (04:29):
Read said.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The Trump's lawyers keep telling her that they were confident
if they could get this policy and many others before
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that how about if they get it from the Supreme
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three judges or the three justices Excuse me, I didn't
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They are the supreme commander for the military. On social media,
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Speaker 5 (05:24):
No it didn't. It did not.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I mean, and here's the other thing. They're not banned
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anything else. So let's go to suffirm the Trump's band
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Trump maga And as I keep telling you, according to
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or any of that. It was d I transgender l Yes, right,
that's that's the whole thing it was all about.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
This is what I mean.
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This is where they go really overreach, really overboard, Okay,
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to seven. They think it's like that for everybody, and
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a patriotic transgender American is not allowed to serve in
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it's amazing how they got away with that which caused
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Talk about a bunch of just just dishonest people. But
let me bring on doctor Karen Sigmund. I really appreciate
her and her time with us. We're going to be
discussing this and a few other things also, Karen, she's
the president of the American Freedom Alliance. And Karen, thanks
for being with me.
Speaker 11 (15:40):
Great to be with you, Joe as always.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, you know, Karen, before we get rolling, we lost,
we both lost. Probably you were more of his friend
than I was, but I knew him well and he
knew who I was, and that David Horowitz passed away
and I didn't know this, but I guess he had
been dealing with cancer for quite some time.
Speaker 11 (16:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and valiant in every way.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I had him on the show several times and the
thing I actually played the last interview I did with
him last week, and man, he was going off.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I made.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I made a big mistake with him. I called the
Democrats liberals and right know on certain terms that they
didn't deserve to be called democrats.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And he explained why. You had some times with them too.
Speaker 11 (16:39):
Oh yeah, I'm so glad to be speaking of him.
The man was an extraordinary titan. He was a warrior,
absolute warrior, and he also fought valiantly against cancer, which
did win. But we still value him for all the
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fight that he gave in everything. I mean, just extraordinary efforts. Always.
He was the most prolific author. Yes Afa had him
speak once. In twenty twenty nineteen. We did our Long
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March to the Institution's conference where we had him opened
the conference because the whole idea of the long March
through the institutions is that the left, not liberals, the leftist,
the communists have made their way into every one of
our institutions, being civic, political, anything, you name it, sports, church, education.
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We talk about this all the time, and he was
one of the first to really describe this and to
address it in such forth right terms and with such
great clarity on one of the things that he says.
He said was to the left, the issue is never
the issue. The issue is always the revolution. And that's
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exactly right. And I know that everything that we talk
about they say one thing, be it compassion and being
nice to the homeless, and diversity, and you know, all
of this complete garbage. Do it for the children, gender
affirming care, you name it. It's not for the thing
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as ver because it's never. It's never. None of their efforts, ever,
not one time, has actually benefited that group that they
say it will do. Who does it benefit them, Who
does it benefit their machine? Who does it benefit globalists?
It never benefits who they pretend to want to address
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or to ameliorate any problem. So David was extremely clear
about this. So we had him open that conference and
talk about this the Long March, and we had Charlie
Kirk close it, which was just to my thinking, and yes,
I put it together, but it was the perfect bookending
of a remarkable conference. We also honored him, I don't
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I think it was twenty seventeen. We chose to award
him with the American Freedom Alliance's Hero of Conscience Award.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh yeah, I remember that, yep.
Speaker 11 (19:30):
And it was. We had many hundreds of people at
the Hilton Universal City we honored him, and it was magnificent.
And we also honored two other people, no, one other person,
Phil Haney. We created an award for Phil Haney, the
American Freedom Award, and now we've lost them both. And
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I think it's just so important while while these titans
are doing the things that they do, that they get
the accolades and honor and respect and admiration while they're
still alive, because they don't do it for that, None
of them, none of the heroes I know, right, they
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don't do it for the accolades at all. And they're
even humbled, if not even humiliated, to be called a hero.
That's not why they do it. So David was absolutely
a titan. He was a hero. What he spoke eloquently
and is he just he wrote magnificently, and was utterly
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fearless and tireless in his fight against the communists, whatever form.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And to think about it, he grew up, as he
would say, in a communist number one. And on top
of all of that, his biggest beef with me was
that he said, look at he said, I fought for
free speeds at Berkeley, you know, when when the shoe
was on the other foot, the conservatives would trying to
keep it from happening. And he said, and now I
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can't even speak there.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
What does that tell you? Right right? You know?
Speaker 11 (21:13):
It's you know, they say the party. I didn't leave
the party. The party left me. On the other hand,
I mean his whole conversion story of I think it
was a friend of his was assassinated by the black Panthers,
who on his side. He had once in his book
Radical Son is what kicked the whole thing off of
his going from being a red diaper baby, the child
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of communists, and a communist himself and real admirer of
the Soviet Union and wanting to bring similar revolution here
and having the the scales torn from his eyes, the
wool from his eyes, and seeing the truth and then
dedicating his light is just every breathing moment to exposing it.
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So when he talked at the Communists, he knows where
if he speaks or folks.
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We are back, Joe, missing your host. Always a pleasure
to have you with me.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Eight five five real Joe eight five five seventy three
two five five sixty three. Get involved, get engaged, be
part of the solution. I know I would do that
pretty fast. But uh, and I do appreciate the time
you spend with me. But I've got doctor Karen Sigmund
on with me. I always appreciate her time. Love when
she's on. And uh, Karen is a president of the
American Freedom Alliance. And Karen, because I know I'm gonna
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get to yaking and then I'm gonna forget. Tell people
what American Freedom Alliances and how they can help.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Ah.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
Yes, and by the way, cool having Rocky or a
picture show. The American Freedom Alliances is a nonprofit organization
based in Los Angeles, and we host events of all kinds,
including massive conferences that seek to highlight the various threats
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which Western civilization, generally in America spaces. So we believe
very strongly that the leftist media and all ideas institutions
do everything to conceal the actual agitations that they are
affecting against us, and AFA does what we can to
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reveal exactly how they're seeking to undermine Western civilization. And
again we applauded David Horowitz for his work in the
exact same arena.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
And you have great guests at your at your meetings
and events, great speak, amazing speed.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Yes, yeah, we really do, thank you. I was just
reminded we had had Riley Gaines, he know an event
last year, we had War on Women, Frank Gaffney, We've
had Steve Bannon, Ed Dowd, as we mentioned, Charlie Kirk
and David Horowitz. Just tremendous, tremendous people.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Oh yeah, and I've had Barack Laurie on the show.
You've had him out there too. Barack is an amazing,
very very intelligent man, so I always appreciate him as well.
As like I said, you's just got to really a
star studed lineup of people, real people that are willing
to fight for this country.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
So thanks for doing that's with your organization, ye, honor.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
So let me let me bring it down a little
bit and talk to you about Jensaki, who apparently was
drinking her namesake the whole time she was in a
White House, and she did what was it, a podcast
over the weekend, and she actually told the person that
nobody and she didn't notice any of Joe Biden's decline
(29:59):
until he did the debate with President Trump. And I'm sorry,
but I said, that's like, you know, it's like telling
somebody you didn't know you were pregnant until you went
into labor. I mean, you walked with it every day,
you saw it every day, You dealt with him every day,
and you even admitted it in one or two of
your press conferences that you hadn't talked to him in
weeks at times. So you cannot tell me that you
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didn't know. And this is what they do. They cover up,
They cover up, and some of them have come forward now,
and some of them have written books on his decline.
I mean they they come off as just a bunch
of liars, a bunch of con men.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When this happens. You don't believe her, do you.
Speaker 11 (30:44):
I don't believe her when she uses words like if then,
But I just there's not a word from her mouth
that I think one can't believe. And I didn't make
that expression up, I forget who did. It's not a word,
it's the truth, you know. To me, Her and Kareem
KJP if I'm remembering those correctly, were as was everybody
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in the quote Biden administration, including quote Biden. Not one
of them, not a single one, bootage, you name it.
Not one was the result was appointed or hired as
a result of merit. Not a single one, not one
of them, was any good at their prior jobs. At
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this job, they also seem to be completely and I
mean entirely one thousand percent clueless as to what the
actual job in a rational world would entail. And this
is one of the contrasts that we're seeing with Donald
Trump's administration, which is in fact Donald Trump's administration as
opposed to everything Biden, which none of it was actually Biden.
(31:56):
So you've got a contrast between a real administration that
we have now and the stake shadow puppet thing that
was going on before and to them again, you know,
to cite Horowitz, the job of being a spokesperson under
the Biden regime was not being a spokesperson but about
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pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. The job of being
transportation secretary. Wasn't about transportation secretary. It was about having
the first gay or they claim to first gay whatever
who cares. That had absolutely nothing to do with his
anything that he was able to do. And he never
(32:39):
took transportation seriously. And in fact, all the air traffic situations,
the catastrophes that we're seeing, those are the consequences of
his policies. So you know, we need to flush that out.
And the train wreck in East Palestine and so on,
that was him. Just all you name it, Rachel Levine
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or what Richard Levine, Come on, this was our secretary
of health. It made a mockery of absolutely everything.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
And I'm going to.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
Add the soakey to this because we always knew it
was never about actually revealing anything. Their entire job was obfuscation.
So whatever she says, we can't believe. And we know
that not a single one of them knew, that pretended,
or had in their consciousness that Biden was actually the president.
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So they were all taking it every minute of every day.
And for her to say we didn't notice the decline, frankly,
it might even be entirely real, because none of them
may It's possible they never actually saw him. Entirely likely
that Jilly ran it or Hunter ran it, or Obama ran.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
It, or.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
Susan Rice ran it, or in any of the puppet masters.
It may have been that they didn't see him for
months at a time, because whenever we saw him in public,
he was a doddering old fool, stumbling reading. Remember you
would read words from the teleprompter like smile or pause.
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He would read those words. He would wander off and
get lost, he would fall.
Speaker 18 (34:17):
It's just.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
So whatever he says is a lie. But I also
think it's really important that we recognize the notion of
telling the truth was and is completely irrelevant to them.
So to say to her you should have been telling
the truth, or you should tell us the truth now,
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I think one would get nothing but a blank stare,
because that was never What are you even talking about?
It's not a value to the left. As I have said,
if the truth were relevant to the left, there would
be no left. And as Dennis Prager has always said,
the truth is not a value that the Democrats care about.
It's it's just as absurd a notion as to say,
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you know, can you fly? It's just a silly idea
that has no connection to the real world. The notion
of doing the actual job that is described as idiotic.
Telling the truth has no place. That's not the job.
And contrast with the absolutely lovely Press secretary we have now,
(35:27):
who needs no notebook, who's just speaks truth flatly, with
no filter. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. So it's not an age thing.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
You know, I got to tell you something.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Think about the people that Trump has surrounded himself with
rights Press secretary, you know, Christy Nome. And we go
to the list of all of them, all right, Telsey Gabbert,
these are not, for lack of a better way of
putting it, these are not soft women. But for a
man who supposedly hates women, he's very confused. Maybe he's
(36:01):
got Alzheimer's right.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Well right, And as an anti semi obviously he's terrible
at this because he's hired you know, many Jews, as
a racist, he's terrible. Just he's really bad at all
of those things. It's all of those things that everybody
throws mud at. But the bottom line, though, is that
he doesn't hire anybody because of this box checking none
(36:28):
of them. Does he have gay people, yes, does he
have people of all races. Yes, women, Yes, that's not
the point. The point is he hires the best person
for the job regardless, where as a prior administration, whoever
at all was it was all a box checking situations.
And again compare this Caroline Levitt to the prior one
(36:51):
similar age. So it's not age, it's not a generational thing.
If one has absolute command and desire to disseminate the
truth and to inform about the realities of what's going on,
(37:12):
and the other one, Saki only ever sought to conceal,
to obfuscate, July, to disseminate false narratives. So one has integrity,
an honesty, and a desire to inform, and the other
has neither of those first two that a desire merely
to propaganda.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
And well, we got we got to go for the break,
so you hold that.
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talk about the thirty million that finally went to Ashley Babbitt.
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Is it true?
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Speaker 5 (43:09):
Are back. Joe was in your host I was replay.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
That you spending with us here on the air, texting, tweeting,
just being a part of a conversation. You do have
a chat room at the show Joe Manzina dot com,
and I do appreciate the time that you spend with this.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Look.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I know there's like three thousand other shows out there
you can be listening to, and it shows in this one,
and i'd like to believe it shows me what a
high IQ you have, but you know, you never know.
So I do appreciate you listening in and hopping online.
Karen Segment or doctor Karen Sigmund joins me to discuss
all things crazy because there is a lot of them,
(43:51):
you know, And we were talking about Jen Saki, who
obviously did way too many drugs and noticed that Joe
Biden was not.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
With it, totally put it that way.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So but I was trying to tell you during the break,
I almost when I talk about women like sake, and
then I'm just a woman hater, you know, That's really
what it boils down to. And then we were talking
about the fact that for a guy that doesn't really
like women or gay people or colored people, he sure
(44:23):
doesn't know how to fix that because Trump has surrounded himself.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
With those people.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So I just think it's hilarious and they'll still lie
about it, they'll still call him, the same thing was
just amazing. You know, Kieran, your dad, Your dad did
a book it's called As I Remember It And he
was born in Berlin in nineteen twenty eight, and man,
(44:49):
you know, he lived through, as you say, one of
the biggest catastrophes in human history.
Speaker 11 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And so when people call Trump Hitler, when people call
people like you and I Nazis, it's gonna hit hard
for you, you know, and understanding truly what happened, doesn't it.
Speaker 11 (45:14):
It's it's so beyond comprehension insulting to toss this around.
It's such a massive trivialization of the horror that people
went through, and that, by the way, the entire world
went through of course the Holocaust, yes, absolutely, the horrors
(45:37):
of that, and to trivialize that, it's it's unbearable that
the world was left broken and in the shambles. And
this was this was Adolf Hitler's doing, This was Germany's doing.
This was from a country that went from a reasonable
democracy to breaking the world in a very short time.
(46:02):
Twelve years was the duration of the Third Reich, instead
of the millennium that he had planned. And by the way,
since you brought it up. May second is nineteen forty five,
so exactly eighty years ago is when the Soviet Army
marched in to Berlin and quote liberated it.
Speaker 13 (46:22):
We were the Allies.
Speaker 11 (46:24):
We liberated Berlin eighty years ago on May eighth. And
I mentioned this because my dad was in downtown Berlin
when this happened. He was there during the Soviet barrage.
He was about a quarter miles from Hitler's bunker. He
was right there all happened, and he was seventeen years old.
(46:47):
He was just a kid. To compare Trump to, I mean,
it's it's unbearably horrible. Yeah, it indicates such a paucity
of understanding of the real dimensions of the catastrophe. You
(47:11):
don't just to call somebody Hitler because you don't like them.
Hitler is just you know, he's in the in the
top maybe five of purest evil creatures that have walked
the earth.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
If you ask, you know, if you're oh, yeah, I mean,
show me how many Jews Trump has guessed. Okay, I
should be honest about it, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
And this is the funny thing about this.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
When you talked to college level kids, okay, at college
aged kids.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
And you asked them about Hitler. They don't know who
he is. He was he was a bad guy. No, No,
he wasn't a bad guy. He was a monster. He
was an animal. Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And what did he do? They don't know what he did.
You know, he killed a lot of people. No, he
didn't just kill people, Okay, he tortured he I mean,
it was just disgusting the way he killed people.
Speaker 11 (48:08):
And this comes back to how our educe. You know,
you and I are common ground here. The fact that
the schools do not teach this, nor do they teach
the evils of communism, the evils of Stalin, of the
Soviet Union, of Paul Toat of China. None of this
(48:29):
is taught. But what is taught is that Jefferson had slaves,
and America was born on the back of slavery, and
they were all a bunch of evil people. And there's
no redeeming qualities to the United States at all. Our
constitution is terrible. We are a nation not worthy of anything,
(48:51):
let alone the pride, the gratitude, all those those things
that underlie it. So we are literally taught nothing about
the evils that do exist, and instead the good that
does exist is cast as evil. So it's I'm outraged
at the ignorance of our youth, but they have been
(49:15):
robbed and education. Really I'm writing about this wide or
if I mentioned it a few weeks ago, but education
is a national security issue. You may vulnerable when you
don't teach about good and evil, and you don't teach
that what's good is good and what is evil is evil,
(49:36):
and you wind up graduating kids who think China is
in fact a better, more civil, civic minded society than us.
I mean, it takes a special kind of derangement to
a crafted curricula to teach this, but that's what they've done.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
That's because they're teaching them that. Look, you go to China,
nobody's without a job, nobody's.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
Sleeping in the streets. You know, everybody is. It's like,
are you really awesome? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Exactly, Socialism, communism, they don't even know what Marxism is.
And that's because and here I'm going to slap our
conservative people, that's because you guys would not take up
the torch. You would not become teachers, you would not
go to universities, you would not push back. They they
virtually walked in at some period it started just taking over, right.
Speaker 11 (50:34):
And you know who was one of the most the
loudest advocates who did go into the school, who was
one of the greatest advocates for freedom on college campuses.
This is right back how you started the show, Joe
with such pressions David Horowitz. Yep, that's exactly what he did.
(50:55):
And that's and that's why the book ending that conference
with Horowitz opening and Charlie Kirk clothing. That's also what
Turning Point does.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Yes, and Charlie, we're still a college grad, right that
that is correct.
Speaker 11 (51:10):
He is not, but he recognizes that this is the
way back. I actually go younger than that. I think
you do too, K twelve. Certainly high schools by the
time that they're in college mostly they're kind of lost anyway, Yes,
(51:30):
because the indoctrination has already taken deep root. So yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Know, but they have not to interrupt you. But they
had a harder time.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Back in the seventies because the family was still intact.
The family was still the important thing. The family was
still the center of your your protection and your security,
if you would. But they've gone through the decades now
and they've made the family. They've made mom and dad
the enemy and the professor is your friend.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Correct, And that straight.
Speaker 11 (52:01):
Up Marxism dissolved the family, and you weaken the greatest
bulwark against collectivism, socialism, communism, which is, as you say,
the family, you destroy that you take out dads. So
taking out dads not only destroys the family, which it does,
but it also removes that key paternal influence that kids
(52:27):
absolutely need and by the way, that the wives need too.
So you've broken it, and you've you've robbed the children
of a very important influence. And now there's no the
building blocks of society have been shattered, and there's no bulwark.
And people, we all recognize we have a need for form,
(52:49):
We have a need for to be part of something.
And the unit that you must be part of is
your family. You broke break that, you also break society.
You break the culture, you make it anomic, you break
the churches. Oh yeah, people need to turn to something,
and what they wind up turning to are various of
(53:10):
these tribes that the Left creates. Black Lives Matter was
an absolute offshoot of all of this. We all have
a need to belong and when you break those effective
institutions that people gravitate towards and always have and that
have been part of our civic fabric. You break all that,
(53:31):
they're going to turn to unsavory, ineffective, unhealthy areas. And
that's what we're seeing. We're seeing this breakdown. At the
same time, though, we're seeing a resurgence because there are
people who recognize churches are Churches are starting to be stronger,
(53:53):
civicogues are starting to be stronger. School now Trump is
standing strong in schools against these ideologies.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Okay, but we're up against it, so quickly tell them
where they find you quickly.
Speaker 11 (54:04):
It happens every time. Joe, American Freedom Alliance dot org.
We've got a lot of great events coming up, a
lot and we've got we're doing a podcast. Find us
on x on getter on INSTAGRAMY.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
All right, you're gonna get You're gonna get cut off
because this is radio and they don't care. So God
bless you for what you're doing. And we'll be back
with you a couple of weeks. Thanks so much, Karen,
my pleasure, Joe, your host. Guys, don't go anywhere. You're
stuck with me for the next hour, and I got
a lot to get off my chest.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 15 (54:49):
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