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She completed a post doctoral certificate in Medical Neuroscience from Duke University. Her expertise is in working with at-risk teens, those struggling with anxiety or depression, and working with families to find solutions to get them back on track.
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We are vomiting from our eyes.
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They don't want criminals they have to deal with.
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Something, any of it.
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Speaker 1 (01:10):
Welcome back to what's gonna turn out to be another
session of sanity right here on the Joe Massini Show.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's a pleasure to have you with me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I so much appreciate the time you're spending what us
here on the air in the chat room, texting and
tweeting and just paying attention to what's going on. I
really do appreciate it. Anyway, got a lot of good
stuff coming up, doctor B. He's gonna join us right
after the first break, and I really do appreciate it.
So all right, So they're making fun of AOC and
well deserved fun of her in the chat room. I mean,
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can you see her in a debate? Although, would it
be great to see her? Let's see what you guys
think about this. We'll have her and Jasmin Crockett, Nancy Pelosi,
Joey b come on, help me out, Maxine Waters. Would
you love to see them on a panel?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Come on, let that sink in for a second anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
All right, So, look, so Moore of the another one
of those Democrat hypocritical moments. Really seriously, it's amazing that
they have total selective recall. And when they say it,
it's not racist. When we say that it is. Go
back to two thousand and eight when Barack Obama somehow,
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I don't know if somebody changed the teleprompter on him
or what. Somehow felt that we had an immigration issue.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
For real administration, the Bush administration has done nothing to
control the problem that we have. We've had five million
undocumented workers come over the borders since George Bush took office.
It has become an extraordinary problem. And the reason the
American people are concerned is because they are seeing their
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own economic position slip away. And oftentimes employers are exploiting
these undocumented workers. They're not paying the minimum wage, they're
not observing worker safety laws. And so what we have
to do is create a comprehensive solution to the problem. Now,
I have already stated that as president, I will make
sure that we finally have the kind of border security
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that we need. That's step number one. Step number two
is to take on employers. Right now, they an employer
has more of a chance of getting hit by lightning
than be prosecuted for hiring an undocumented worker. That has
to change. They have to be held the administration, the
Bush administration.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, wait a minute, minue, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know when they have the debate, or maybe he
didn't mean it, maybe he would lie in to us. Hey,
I don't know, right, he would call it the deporter
in chief for the longest time. You think he really
wants to do it? What would he had Biden do
and he just didn't have the guts to do it
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or didn't want to take it on himself. I'm more
curious than anything else. I mean, seriously, I love this stuff.
I think it's hilarious again eight five to five real
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I love the craziness of it all right. You remember
what was the name Greta Thurnberg, Right, she was the
child climate goddess? Remember her post a child for the
global warming people. Now, I'm not making fun of her,
but she apparently she has Aspergers syndrome, which I know
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plenty of young people that have that, I say plenty.
I know quite a few. I don't find it really
off putting. I don't know what it is to be
like that, but I've had some great conversations with them,
and actually they even kind of got me thinking about
stuff that I would have never thought of normally.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Maybe that just means I'm almost low. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know, for more than thirty years, what the science
was crystal clear, right, For more than thirty years of
climate model these are the things that she said that
I don't know who fettered this stuff, but for more
than thirty years of climate models have failed. They've overestimated
how high temperatures would be. Dramatic climate predictions like New
York City being underwater disappearing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Polar ice caps also have failed. Everything that they claimed.
And I do this every year. Everything that they claimed.
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Has failed.
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Right, So anyh I just you just you just get
it's hilarious. The entire ecosystem is collapsing. She said, Well,
actually ecosystems are expanding. The increased CO two production increases foliage. Right,
plants breathed CO two.
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I mean, think about it. They want to get it
down to none. So what happens to the plants? Do
they die? Got increased plan life? What do you got?
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You got that feeds more animals? I have more animals growing.
That all expands the ecosystem. And then she starts screaming
to what people is suffering? Well, the quality of life
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most ever since we've been keeping track. At least.
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This is doing part to.
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The expansion of the effective energy sources.
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And then she says, people are dying.
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We're in the beginning of a mass extinction.
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You can't handle the truth?
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I always, I always love it when you when you
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you need to move forward and make something happen. And
like I say, most of the time, I'm more than
willing to admit I have no clue. It's okay, I
don't believe me. I'll still sleep it. And if you
make fun of me, that's why I bring on people
like doctor b Doctor Bridget Wilson enjoyed us as she
does pretty much every week or every other week, and
(13:52):
I always appreciate her time. I'm trying to explain the
craziness that's going on around us. I know you can't right,
good luck right, that's gonna say good luck? Oh, And
there's plenty of them doing it. There's plenty of them
out there doing it, and these judges.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But but I can tell you something.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I am so excited that Trump is like flicking his
nose at them because I just keep playing that piece
from AOC which when she was telling Joe Biden that
you should ignore the courts orders.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, it was okay for apparently, it was okay for
for Joey b to ignore them because they're just opinions,
after all, you know, they're they're not what.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Do we need judges for. We don't need to listen Wait, no,
we need to listen to him now, you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We do now?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's a constitutional crisis now.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
It wasn't before though.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, it's a whole psychological phenomenon. When I when I
watched for all, Obama and Clinton talk about closing the
borders and talk about lowering taxes and I talk about
raising tariffs, and then Trump and oh, yeah, let's do it,
and we're like, yeah, let's do it. Republicans are on board.
That's where we can reach across the aisle. But now Trump,
you would think if he said, you know, go out
(15:17):
and I don't know, kill your I don't know, right,
it's like what so so my so we get all that,
we hear it, we see it, but psychologically for me,
I it hurts my head because there's no condition. There's
no like diagnosis for allies, but no diagnosis like clinically
(15:42):
for that.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
It is this is where I I know you, I.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Know you got it right there in your back pocket.
No I could too, right, I could too delusional, you know,
but go ahead. But yeah, it's this is where y'all
have to see how blissfully, willfully ignorant they are. I
(16:13):
would rather attribute a mentality to it versus a psychological condition,
because it's not Don't let them get away with that.
Don't tell them they're crazy. Don't tell they'll say they're
mentally ill. They're not. They're not exactly what they're doing. Yeah, right,
And last I checked, that.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Wasn't so well they might add.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
For us, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Seriously, well, I'll tell can say, can I tell you
what we're so?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So Robert de Niro, right, and he talked about that.
I'm sure you have his son, his son coming out
as trams and so the pictures everywhere and people are
going up to robertnar and saying oh my gosh, you know,
do you support this? What do you feel?
Speaker 14 (17:04):
How do you?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
And He's like, what's the big deal. I had a son,
I loved him. Now I have a daughter and I
love her, and I'm like, okay, so yeah, So I'm
reading the comments on all of these articles where this
is right, and it's the it's it's conservatives and the
Christians saying, hey, I'm just praying because I know where
(17:26):
he's going to end up and it's depravity. You know,
the Bible speaks to it, and you know, I hope
he fights the Lord. Blah blah blah. I don't think
any of that's bad. I think it's it's great. So
the other side is this is why I could never
be a conservative. I'm like, who what? Because we're not
allowed to be trans and we're not allowed to be
who we want, We're not allowed to love who we want.
(17:46):
And I'm like, I feel like he is trans, that
he is loving who we want. What are we stopping you?
Speaker 13 (17:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
That's the whole thing where I listened to Charlie Kirk
is how are we stopping you? How hands off of
what you can go down the road to, you know
where anytime you want to And this in all seriousness,
it's just this is the question I get all the time.
It's like, doctor me, what is it that we you know,
(18:14):
like they know that I've worked, you know with a
the administration and you know, with the Faith Advisory Board
and stuff, and they're just like, what rights do Is
there something we don't know about Donald Trump? What rights
do we not have? Do they not have? And I'm like,
there aren't any. They're absolutely delusional. So yeah, So that's
(18:36):
those are the messages I've been getting, is like they
feel crazy, and I'm like, you're not crazy. Don't crazy?
People don't know they.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Make you feel crazy, You're right. I mean you go
to them and say your hands off, hands off? What
help me understand? Hands off?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
What right?
Speaker 15 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Pulling money back that's been stolen from us? Hands off
for that?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
And all these liberals saying, you know, conservatives are gonna
have a field day and leave Lobert to erroline and
note where nobody cares. We don't we care about their faith,
you know, about where he's going when he dies. But
what do you're saying? But the hate and the number
one thing I keep saying is speaking truth. It's not hate.
It's truth.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
No, No, it's hate.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Depends on how I take it, depends on how I
feel for the day, right, I mean I can't.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, no, I got wanted to drive you crazy. I
didn't even run it by you, but I just thought
that you would love. You know who George Barner is,
doctor George Barner. Yah, yeah, so he did. I don't
know if you saw the pec he just came out with.
Christianity is slowly shrinking in the US, it.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Is, yeah, but never been sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
When he starts going through the reasons and some of
the issues they were having, and there you know what
is it? Sixty percent of Christians don't believe in absolute truth?
Then how the heck do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Help me understand that one?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
He also attributes this you and I've talked about this
a million times where I've said, you, look at the
kids don't have any boundaries. They don't have parents that
say no to them. So when God says no, when
God puts up boundaries, well he's not loving God.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
What do you mean I can't do that with twelve women? Right?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right? So you got this confused, lack of strict boundaries.
I know these kids are lost because their parents are lost.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Anyway, It's like.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It is absolutely true. But I'm like, he is absolutely right,
and I know that he's done research at the CRC,
and what he usually says is that American adults have
dramatically redefined the very nature and existence of God. And
it's true they have. So I'm absolutely and so you know, yes,
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it does contribute to will confusion. We're doing that by
being weak Christians, not you and me because we're on it.
But yes, every time you respond, you know, on a
Facebook post, a social media posts that is hate filled. Yes,
use truth, you Scott's word, stand up for yourself. But
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we're causing the confusion. I absolutely agree with that. I
think what blew my mind too, is you know, after
the Pope died, the hate from my Catholic friends, all
I tould was like a meme like he, hey, this
is what Catholics believes, you know, through research, what y'all think.
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And break all right, right back, all right, tell me
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unemployment rate remains steady at four point two percent. Secretary
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of State Marco Rubio says a Russia, Ukraine peace deal
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You mean the two?
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Do you mean the crypt Keeper brothers? I mean, seriously,
Edgar Winter. God, they looked bad.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They really looked bad.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
They Do you remember the crypt Keeper from the series.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
No, we're just gonna move on.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Forget about familiar.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Tales from Tales from the Crypt.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I used to from the.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Crypt, little weird looking guys or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh, the the skeleton looking guy that you think he
could have passed for Edgar Winter in a heartbeat?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yes, I oh, I want to watch that. I write
that down.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
There you go. So what do you help?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, God's good fact reality.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, yes, there you go. Well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I was talking about this again, not trying to think
a swipe out my Catholic friends, but you know we're
supposed to bow before no one, and I was telling
you during the break. It hit me like a ton
of bricks, because even the angels where they appeared to
somebody and and they went to bow, the angel would
say no, no, no, you're gonna get us both in trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
No bowing.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know I got I got a message from you
for you, right, and I watched them bow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
At the Pope's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Casket when they first came out, and then when they
got into the bottom stairs, and I said, no, that
is that ain't right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
There's a problem there.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah, I you know what what I don't get is,
you know, I'll put stuff on all my Facebook, you know,
controversial or hey, let's discuss, and I just what I
don't understand is that not all some of them. I
get a lot of support behind the scenes from I
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call the evangelical Catholics, like they get it. They like
all the tradition, but they do understand the rest of it,
you know, how it really works with Jesus. So I'm
not gonna judge anybody, you know, when they're going heave
or not. But I like to get into asking why.
And I still to this day on you know how
many years on Facebook have yet to have a Catholic
(29:12):
give me a scripture for what they believe? Just one,
just one and they can't. And that's the only thing
I'm like. And then they say I'm judgmental, and then
I'm attacking them by asking that question. Yeah, And so
I mean I got slammed and I'm just like I
was a judgmental attacking James five nineteen through twenty. Do
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you know that? And they're like what No? Michael James
five nineteen through twenty says that if you, you know,
turn a brother around by correcting them in truth basically,
then you will potentially save their soul because right you're
turning them to Jesus, are giving them the truth. And
well you're why are you attacking us? I'm like, oh
my gosh, did you even I said? What? I It's
(29:58):
God's word. Like I respond back with God's word, that's
not what it says, Okay, I literally copied and pasted,
So that's what I don't understand. They get so mad,
and I it blows my mind. You know, if you
have if you cannot defend your face, then you're probably
in the long one. And that's all I'm saying. I
(30:22):
have had like Rick Centaurum. He's and he calls himself
an evangelical Catholic and he can go He and I
can go back and forth on scripture all day long.
I mean, I'm like so impressed. Like he will give
it on the Bible, Da Da Dad, the Bible and
he'll bring up the you know, the the extra parts
of the Apocryphy. I don't know, the extra part that
that I don't believe made it in the Bible for
(30:43):
a reason. And I said, you got me on that,
because I don't. I think some of those are great, right,
lots of great stories that just doesn't perfectly line up
with the inspiring word of God.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, they're actually growing up Catholic and learning all about
it and then going to the more of an evangelical church.
You know, you find out that the reason those books
were never included is because on do they not line
up with the continuity of the rest of the Bible.
But in some places they actually are one hundred eighty
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degrees against biblical scripture, biblical principles, and you know, that.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Sounds like a good reason, whereas the rest, you know,
is so perfectly aligned. And I am really enjoying listening
to Charlie Kirk, you know, explain why when people say, well,
the Bible is written by people, and he's like, yeah, right,
isn't it cool that it all lines up? Well, he
said it's a red shirt. He says, it's a green shirt, right,
(31:40):
And I'm like, yeah, if you see a car accident,
we're all going to see a little bit different. But
we're all going to realize there's a car accident and
there was a dude driving a car and he hit
a three year old. We all thought, so, yeah, they
just they just can't they just but data is folks.
That's I mean, these are the questions I get on
Facebook all the time, and I'm like, that is what
the epitome of spiritual blindness is. That's the definition of blindness.
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They can't, they don't. If you don't want to know God,
I'm not going to tell you there's that verse, right.
I mean, we're all going biblical right now, but there
are those verses where Jesus you know there the is
it the Pharisees that are saying, well, why are you
talking in parables? We can't understand you? And basically you
cannot you won't know what you can't hear you know
or whatever you can't whatever. I have to find that verse.
(32:23):
I don't like the coding, but it is a I
love how he talks in riddles. It's like, I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So it's no I look at it. It ain't that
hard if you're if you start off wanting to fight
and push back.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But if you go into an understanding that he's speaking
to you to help you because he loves you, then
it's a whole different animal.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Right, you know it's Matthew thirteen. I always like to
find it for this reason. I speak to them in terables,
because seeing that they do not see in hearing that
they do not hear in nor do they understand. And
it's like, I totally understand what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
If you look it, he uses way too many words
for man. He could have summed that all up by saying,
seeing that they were boneheads and ignorant.
Speaker 16 (33:11):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
That Bible would go from two and a half insance
about an inch and a quarter.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
He should have he should have consulted with me. I
would have cleaned the whole thing up.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But it's so beautiful. They may be ever seeing but
never perceiving, and every hearing but never understanding. Otherwise they
might turn and be forgiven what. I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I'll be right. The message, the best message Bibles, the.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Best Okay, nod all day long.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh God, you're gonna get me in trouble because I know,
never mind, where was that funny.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So so let's get back to I want to talk
a little bit about out this this paper because it
has everything in it that you and I have talked
about over the years. Right, you got born in quote
unquote born again Christians who say they believe the Bible,
but they don't believe the Bible is absolute. So there's
there's a mental health issue problem right there. You're going
(34:18):
to stake your eternal life on somebody that's talked about
in a Bible that you don't believe is total truth.
That's the sickness. You need help, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You need something.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And on top of that, you have very specific, non
negotiable rules in the Bible, right and why.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Tell people why they're non negotiable because people have an
issue with that?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Because they're God's rules.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Then God made you.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He made this whole thing, the rules, and he didn't
call you to see how the universe should look, and
he didn't call you to see how big the Bible
should be and whether the sky should be blue and
the grass should be He doesn't need you, so he
doesn't at all.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
And that right there, there's so many things right there
should be it isn't a concept that people cannot understand.
If you form a company and grow it, you get
to make the rules. I mean we're still essex and things,
but you know what I mean. You can just say
when people clock in and clock out, and when they
eat and what they do, and that they eat in
the kitchen and they sit and they go right, so
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does if I was God?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
If I was God, everybody out. Okay, I start all
over and the Bible would be two pages. Here's the
story what I did to the people before you now
get it straight.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Are you're going to end up there? Okay?
Speaker 6 (35:48):
It'd all be Italian Italian?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh okay, sorry?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yes, them them in sauce and gravy. Those are two
fighting Ali and I were.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Talking about you because she's like, I feel like Italian food,
and I'm like, what did you say? You? You better
be glad Joe Massine is not here and she's just
why and I what did you just say? She goes,
I want Italian food? No, you said Italian foods? Like
what's Joe Italian? And I'm like, okay, Joe Italian? Catholic?
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Trump's been a little We'll be back at a minute.
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Speaker 6 (43:08):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Just go ahead, stuck on.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
I'm sorry anyway.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, please move on.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
What's your question?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I forgot what the question was, but I know I
wrote notes here, Thank God before we went to break.
I told you I was having a hard time with
these quote unquote committed Christians basing their lives, basing what
they do not on scripture as much as on their
feelings or traditions of their family or or or you
(43:57):
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Well, yes, and within this research that he does, you know,
with the shift of how Americans you Christianity, it's so
I don't it hurts my head that there's a rise
in personal commitment to Jesus, yet there's a also a
rise in focusing on personal spirituality and redefining church and
(44:21):
a decline in church attentions. So how are we so
we believe in Jesus but we're not gonna live like it? Yes, yes,
I and yes, I don't even know what to do
with that.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
All right, Well, what's Jesus. You know, Look, I don't
want to get all spiritual too on people, but there's
a reality that there's a book you're reading. There's a
book that you claim you base your life on. And
in somewhere in that conversation you say you don't believe
that it's like the perfect word of God.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Is okay?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So which part is is in how do you make
the decisions? Is what's real and what's not real? That's
going to be confusing?
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Well, absolutely, and that you know you and I have
talked about that so many times that if you don't
believe in the moral standards of God and your moral
code is not based on what this country's is. You know,
we're supposed to be supposed to be by our founding bothers,
which is the word God can commandments. We can start there,
you know. Mike A six A suggestice, love, mercy, pact justly.
(45:31):
But it's it's it then what are you doing? And
and and this is again now I can bring in
my psychological perspective when I meet with mass shooters, when
I meet with these foster kids in the system, when
I meet with you know, kids in prison and and
just normally great kids but when I ask them, hey,
(45:52):
what's what do you value? What's your value system?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Look like?
Speaker 6 (45:54):
You know? Like what do you mean? I'm like, okay, gosh,
you're walking around society and you don't know what value
system is? Okay, what you value is? You know? And
I kind of listed exercise, eating well, eating French fries
every day, people who like to walk, people who like
the museum. And then I ask them and they give
them to me. But the second one is even harder,
is what does your moral code look like? And they
(46:17):
look at me like what the heck? And so you're
right and wrong? What do you feel is right? And
what do you feel is wrong? And they still, and
even adults look at me when I say this, and
this is a problem. And this is not just a
spiritual Christian problem. This is a sietal problem. And this
is why, you know, there's a point here, This is
why we're seeing such a decline and division in society.
(46:41):
Your rights and your wrongs?
Speaker 8 (46:42):
Murder?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Is that okay? And then I'll have people say no,
and I'm like, oh, so never, right, never murder? Not
the death penalty? Oh yeah, no, absolutely, you know, not
the death Or they'll be like, yes, the death penalty, okay, abortion,
killing babies, Oh yeah, absolutely, that's okay. You know, it's
just like, oh gosh, okay, so you believe that. And
then we go smoking drugs, you know, saxophore, marriage, you know,
(47:05):
we just list them all and they're just like, well,
that should be up to every person individually. And I'm
like murdering, like, well, yeah, I mean because some people
feel like the death penalty is okay, So I'm don't
some feel like a Worson's okase, I don't. I'm like,
but murder. So you think that that was one thing,
Joe that blew my mind? So you think that should
be up to each individual? Yes, then why do we
(47:27):
have laws? Why do we have prisons? And this is
what but this is what we're seeing coming up with
our youth and these millennials that started with the millennials.
It's this whole absolute truth, right, it's all subjective. So
I then posed to them. Then if someone walks, you know,
across the street and stabs you, is that okay? Well no,
(47:49):
well doesn't it depend why? You know? They're like, no,
that's wrong according to who, Well me, that's just wrong, right.
But that's the thing I get to it. Well, but
you said subjective, Well not in that cake. Well of
course not, because it's you. But you know what I mean,
it becomes circular because God says do not murder. Right,
we can't have people just feeling going with their feelings
(48:11):
because I feel like doing that. I feel like tripping you.
I feel like I just watched that special needs aide
beat up that kid. I apparently she got arrested. Have
you seen that she was deepically on the bus beating
up special needs kids since she was just arrested, and
because she felt like it, She's like, well I needed
an outlet. Okay, well you and some people are standing up.
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I understand she must have been stressed and what so
she can beat up? Yes, So that's what frightens me.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
That is you a number?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Was there a stress number?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Maybe I could use it to take care of some
people I want to take care of me.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Right, It just blows my mind. And just talking about
like that Frisco kid, right, well, he's you know, you know,
not privileged, and so he gets to stab people. Okay,
that this is the problem. I mean, we laughed, but
it's becoming a very serious societal problem.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Okay, But do you remember that kid that I don't know,
if he ran people and he did something really bad
and the judge let him go or gave him the
lighter signal, a lighter sentence because he he had too
much privilege. And the reason he was the way he
(49:27):
was is because his parents had too much privilege and
gave him too much. He was I'm thinking of myself.
I wait a minute, Okay, So so he got spoiled
by his parents, can't control his anger, and that's why
you gave him a light sentence, you know, over something
so regious. And I'm going, where is that in the law.
I must have missed that one.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
The moral rights and wrongs, you know, when you don't
follow the same code. There they go and okay, so
we believe the Koran's okay, let's just go with the Muslim.
But let's go with that one. Oh yeah, I mean
they have a freedom of Okay, they want to blow
up anybody that's not a Muslim.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Including is that okay?
Speaker 8 (50:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (50:13):
You look at Gaza and people who fight for that,
and I'm like, they hate your Okay. I just it's
just you're right, you know, I think that we are
losing our way and it's it's that's the division. It
has nothing to do with anything else. But you throw
God out of it, and then what do you where
(50:33):
are you going to go? So get rid of the prisons, honestly,
get rid of them. There's no reason to have them,
if there's no right or wrong right, get rid of
the cops.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yea, then it's a whole different animal.
Speaker 6 (50:47):
Right, So yes, right, remember BLM and all of that. Right,
I need cops. And next thing, she's like calling nine
to one one because you know, someone hit her car.
That was the funniest video.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
So let me Yeah, I know, I'm all over the
place with you, but I'm doing it on purpose because
I mean, there's so many things that people are going
to be dealing with.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You've got the CDC and others coming down talking about, uh,
you know, the millions of jabs that people took here
in this country and now the side effects that they're
having from them. Now, you've got to be some people
are going to be sitting there on the couch going,
oh my god, I had three of those or I
had you know what I'm saying, two of the shots
and now they're seeing, you know, heart issues here and there,
(51:28):
You're going to have a lot of people that are
going to be under some real mental anguish over the
next few years at least, I think so.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
Yeah, like the the lack of development and the developmental
issues we saw on our teens wasn't bad enough, and
all of these kids during COVID, and then on top
of that, you've got the physiological issues, you know, with
the heart, with the brain, with the entire latactic system,
deliver of the kidneys, because that's what these you know,
(51:56):
are any little molecules, molecules to do they hover over
these organs and yeah, and gosh, don it if there's
cancer in your body, it accelerates it. And that's all
I mean, that's I'm not a medical doctor, but you
all can go to the CDC, like you said, Joe,
and look up all of it.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
You see countries who are openly talking about the issues
that they're seeing that they're having.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
You know, yes, yes, still, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Feel like really bad if I got one of my
kids or forced my kids to get it and today
they're suffering, I mean, really would feel like a piece
of work.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Yeah, And that's going to cause definitely mental and psychological
language with parents and it's just it's unfortunate. It's just
unfortunate how the lust works and doesn't care and doesn't
fully do their research. And I don't know. And that's
truth tellers, right, we're conspiracy there.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, okay, I sent you with this is I gotta
say this really fast. But I sent you a clip
of an old time psychiatrist and he said, look, not
everything's a mental issue, and he goes through a whole
bunch of stuff. He said, none of that is a
mental issue. But yet it's all a mental issue today
and it's wrong. Yeah, you know, and you have to
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watch that. Yeah, I'll send it to you again.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
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Appreciate you being on and I will wrangle you again
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Ye see you later, Joe seeing your house. Don't do
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And yet what they're worried about the words you use
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Speaker 1 (01:10):
Welcome back to what's gonna turn out to be another
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's a pleasure to have you with me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I so much appreciate the time you're spending what us
here on the air in the chat room, texting and
tweeting and just paying attention to what's going on. I
really do appreciate it. Anyway, got a lot of good
stuff coming up, doctor B. He's gonna join us right
after the first break, and I really do appreciate it.
So all right, So they're making fun of AOC and
well deserved fun of her in the chat room. I mean,
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can you see her in a debate? Although, would it
be great to see her? Let's see what you guys
think about this. We'll have her and Jasmin Crockett, Nancy Pelosi,
Joey b come on, help me out, Maxine Waters. Would
you love to see them on a panel?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Come on, let that sink in for a second anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
All right, So, look, so Moore of the another one
of those Democrat hypocritical moments. Really seriously, it's amazing that
they have total selective recall. And when they say it,
it's not racist. When we say that it is. Go
back to two thousand and eight when Barack Obama somehow,
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or what. Somehow felt that we had an immigration issue.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
For real administration, the Bush administration has done nothing to
control the problem that we have. We've had five million
undocumented workers come over the borders since George Bush took office.
It has become an extraordinary problem. And the reason the
American people are concerned is because they are seeing their
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these undocumented workers. They're not paying the minimum wage, they're
not observing worker safety laws. And so what we have
to do is create a comprehensive solution to the problem. Now,
I have already stated that as president, I will make
sure that we finally have the kind of border security
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that we need. That's step number one. Step number two
is to take on employers. Right now, they an employer
has more of a chance of getting hit by lightning
than be prosecuted for hiring an undocumented worker. That has
to change. They have to be held the administration, the
Bush administration.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
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Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know when they have the debate, or maybe he
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wants to do it? What would he had Biden do
and he just didn't have the guts to do it
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I love the craziness of it all right. You remember
what was the name Greta Thurnberg, Right, she was the
child climate goddess? Remember her post a child for the
global warming people. Now, I'm not making fun of her,
but she apparently she has Aspergers syndrome, which I know
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plenty of young people that have that, I say plenty.
I know quite a few. I don't find it really
off putting. I don't know what it is to be
like that, but I've had some great conversations with them,
and actually they even kind of got me thinking about
stuff that I would have never thought of normally.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Maybe that just means I'm almost low. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You know, for more than thirty years, what the science
was crystal clear, right, For more than thirty years of
climate model these are the things that she said that
I don't know who fettered this stuff, but for more
than thirty years of climate models have failed. They've overestimated
how high temperatures would be. Dramatic climate predictions like New
York City being underwater disappearing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Polar ice caps also have failed. Everything that they claimed.
And I do this every year. Everything that they claimed.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
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Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right, So anyh I just you just you just get
it's hilarious. The entire ecosystem is collapsing. She said, Well,
actually ecosystems are expanding. The increased CO two production increases foliage. Right,
plants breathed CO two.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
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Speaker 1 (07:08):
You got that feeds more animals? I have more animals growing.
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to what people is suffering? Well, the quality of life
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a billion people have been lifted out of poverty, the
most ever since we've been keeping track. At least.
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You can't handle the truth?
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I always playing the heavy with a five five year
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I always, I always love it when you when you
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you need to move forward and make something happen. And
like I say, most of the time, I'm more than
willing to admit I have no clue. It's okay, I
don't believe me. I'll still sleep it. And if you
make fun of me, that's why I bring on people
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(13:52):
I always appreciate her time. I'm trying to explain the
craziness that's going on around us. I know you can't right,
good luck right, that's gonna say good luck? Oh, And
there's plenty of them doing it. There's plenty of them
out there doing it, and these judges.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But but I can tell you something.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I am so excited that Trump is like flicking his
nose at them because I just keep playing that piece
from AOC which when she was telling Joe Biden that
you should ignore the courts orders.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, it was okay for apparently, it was okay for
for Joey b to ignore them because they're just opinions,
after all, you know, they're they're not what.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Do we need judges for. We don't need to listen Wait, no,
we need to listen to him now, you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We do now?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's a constitutional crisis now.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
It wasn't before though.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, it's a whole psychological phenomenon. When I when I
watched for all, Obama and Clinton talk about closing the
borders and talk about lowering taxes and I talk about
raising tariffs, and then Trump and oh, yeah, let's do it,
and we're like, yeah, let's do it. Republicans are on board.
That's where we can reach across the aisle. But now Trump,
you would think if he said, you know, go out
(15:17):
and I don't know, kill your I don't know, right,
it's like what so so my so we get all that,
we hear it, we see it, but psychologically for me,
I it hurts my head because there's no condition. There's
no like diagnosis for allies, but no diagnosis like clinically
(15:42):
for that.
Speaker 13 (15:43):
It is this is where I I know you, I.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Know you got it right there in your back pocket.
No I could too, right, I could too delusional, you know,
but go ahead. But yeah, it's this is where y'all
have to see how blissfully, willfully ignorant they are. I
(16:13):
would rather attribute a mentality to it versus a psychological condition,
because it's not Don't let them get away with that.
Don't tell them they're crazy. Don't tell they'll say they're
mentally ill. They're not. They're not exactly what they're doing. Yeah, right,
And last I checked, that.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Wasn't so well they might add.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
For us, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Seriously, well, I'll tell can say, can I tell you
what we're so?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
So Robert de Niro, right, and he talked about that.
I'm sure you have his son, his son coming out
as trams and so the pictures everywhere and people are
going up to robertnar and saying oh my gosh, you know,
do you support this? What do you feel?
Speaker 14 (17:04):
How do you?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
And He's like, what's the big deal. I had a son,
I loved him. Now I have a daughter and I
love her, and I'm like, okay, so yeah, So I'm
reading the comments on all of these articles where this
is right, and it's the it's it's conservatives and the
Christians saying, hey, I'm just praying because I know where
(17:26):
he's going to end up and it's depravity. You know,
the Bible speaks to it, and you know, I hope
he fights the Lord. Blah blah blah. I don't think
any of that's bad. I think it's it's great. So
the other side is this is why I could never
be a conservative. I'm like, who what? Because we're not
allowed to be trans and we're not allowed to be
who we want, We're not allowed to love who we want.
(17:46):
And I'm like, I feel like he is trans, that
he is loving who we want. What are we stopping you?
Speaker 13 (17:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
That's the whole thing where I listened to Charlie Kirk
is how are we stopping you? How hands off of
what you can go down the road to, you know
where anytime you want to And this in all seriousness,
it's just this is the question I get all the time.
It's like, doctor me, what is it that we you know,
(18:14):
like they know that I've worked, you know with a
the administration and you know, with the Faith Advisory Board
and stuff, and they're just like, what rights do Is
there something we don't know about Donald Trump? What rights
do we not have? Do they not have? And I'm like,
there aren't any. They're absolutely delusional. So yeah, So that's
(18:36):
those are the messages I've been getting, is like they
feel crazy, and I'm like, you're not crazy. Don't crazy?
People don't know they.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Make you feel crazy, You're right. I mean you go
to them and say your hands off, hands off? What
help me understand? Hands off?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
What right?
Speaker 15 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Pulling money back that's been stolen from us? Hands off
for that?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
And all these liberals saying, you know, conservatives are gonna
have a field day and leave Lobert to erroline and
note where nobody cares. We don't we care about their faith,
you know, about where he's going when he dies. But
what do you're saying? But the hate and the number
one thing I keep saying is speaking truth. It's not hate.
It's truth.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
No, No, it's hate.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Depends on how I take it, depends on how I
feel for the day, right, I mean I can't.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, no, I got wanted to drive you crazy. I
didn't even run it by you, but I just thought
that you would love. You know who George Barner is,
doctor George Barner. Yah, yeah, so he did. I don't
know if you saw the pec he just came out with.
Christianity is slowly shrinking in the US, it.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Is, yeah, but never been sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
When he starts going through the reasons and some of
the issues they were having, and there you know what
is it? Sixty percent of Christians don't believe in absolute truth?
Then how the heck do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Help me understand that one?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
He also attributes this you and I've talked about this
a million times where I've said, you, look at the
kids don't have any boundaries. They don't have parents that
say no to them. So when God says no, when
God puts up boundaries, well he's not loving God.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
What do you mean I can't do that with twelve women? Right?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right? So you got this confused, lack of strict boundaries.
I know these kids are lost because their parents are lost.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Anyway, It's like.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It is absolutely true. But I'm like, he is absolutely right,
and I know that he's done research at the CRC,
and what he usually says is that American adults have
dramatically redefined the very nature and existence of God. And
it's true they have. So I'm absolutely and so you know, yes,
(20:49):
it does contribute to will confusion. We're doing that by
being weak Christians, not you and me because we're on it.
But yes, every time you respond, you know, on a
Facebook post, a social media posts that is hate filled. Yes,
use truth, you Scott's word, stand up for yourself. But
(21:10):
we're causing the confusion. I absolutely agree with that. I
think what blew my mind too, is you know, after
the Pope died, the hate from my Catholic friends, all
I tould was like a meme like he, hey, this
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They Do you remember the crypt Keeper from the series.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
No, we're just gonna move on.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Forget about familiar.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Tales from Tales from the Crypt.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I used to from the.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Crypt, little weird looking guys or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh, the the skeleton looking guy that you think he
could have passed for Edgar Winter in a heartbeat?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yes, I oh, I want to watch that. I write
that down.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
There you go. So what do you help?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yes, God's good fact reality.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, yes, there you go. Well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I was talking about this again, not trying to think
a swipe out my Catholic friends, but you know we're
supposed to bow before no one, and I was telling
you during the break. It hit me like a ton
of bricks, because even the angels where they appeared to
somebody and and they went to bow, the angel would
say no, no, no, you're gonna get us both in trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
No bowing.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know I got I got a message from you
for you, right, and I watched them bow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
At the Pope's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Casket when they first came out, and then when they
got into the bottom stairs, and I said, no, that
is that ain't right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
There's a problem there.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah, I you know what what I don't get is,
you know, I'll put stuff on all my Facebook, you know,
controversial or hey, let's discuss, and I just what I
don't understand is that not all some of them. I
get a lot of support behind the scenes from I
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call the evangelical Catholics, like they get it. They like
all the tradition, but they do understand the rest of it,
you know, how it really works with Jesus. So I'm
not gonna judge anybody, you know, when they're going heave
or not. But I like to get into asking why.
And I still to this day on you know how
many years on Facebook have yet to have a Catholic
(29:12):
give me a scripture for what they believe? Just one,
just one and they can't. And that's the only thing
I'm like. And then they say I'm judgmental, and then
I'm attacking them by asking that question. Yeah, And so
I mean I got slammed and I'm just like I
was a judgmental attacking James five nineteen through twenty. Do
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you know that? And they're like what No? Michael James
five nineteen through twenty says that if you, you know,
turn a brother around by correcting them in truth basically,
then you will potentially save their soul because right you're
turning them to Jesus, are giving them the truth. And
well you're why are you attacking us? I'm like, oh
my gosh, did you even I said? What? I It's
(29:58):
God's word. Like I respond back with God's word, that's
not what it says, Okay, I literally copied and pasted,
So that's what I don't understand. They get so mad,
and I it blows my mind. You know, if you
have if you cannot defend your face, then you're probably
in the long one. And that's all I'm saying. I
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have had like Rick Centaurum. He's and he calls himself
an evangelical Catholic and he can go He and I
can go back and forth on scripture all day long.
I mean, I'm like so impressed. Like he will give
it on the Bible, Da Da Dad, the Bible and
he'll bring up the you know, the the extra parts
of the Apocryphy. I don't know, the extra part that
that I don't believe made it in the Bible for
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a reason. And I said, you got me on that,
because I don't. I think some of those are great, right,
lots of great stories that just doesn't perfectly line up
with the inspiring word of God.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, they're actually growing up Catholic and learning all about
it and then going to the more of an evangelical church.
You know, you find out that the reason those books
were never included is because on do they not line
up with the continuity of the rest of the Bible.
But in some places they actually are one hundred eighty
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degrees against biblical scripture, biblical principles, and you know, that.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Sounds like a good reason, whereas the rest, you know,
is so perfectly aligned. And I am really enjoying listening
to Charlie Kirk, you know, explain why when people say, well,
the Bible is written by people, and he's like, yeah, right,
isn't it cool that it all lines up? Well, he
said it's a red shirt. He says, it's a green shirt, right,
(31:40):
And I'm like, yeah, if you see a car accident,
we're all going to see a little bit different. But
we're all going to realize there's a car accident and
there was a dude driving a car and he hit
a three year old. We all thought, so, yeah, they
just they just can't they just but data is folks.
That's I mean, these are the questions I get on
Facebook all the time, and I'm like, that is what
the epitome of spiritual blindness is. That's the definition of blindness.
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They can't, they don't. If you don't want to know God,
I'm not going to tell you there's that verse, right.
I mean, we're all going biblical right now, but there
are those verses where Jesus you know there the is
it the Pharisees that are saying, well, why are you
talking in parables? We can't understand you? And basically you
cannot you won't know what you can't hear you know
or whatever you can't whatever. I have to find that verse.
(32:23):
I don't like the coding, but it is a I
love how he talks in riddles. It's like, I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So it's no I look at it. It ain't that
hard if you're if you start off wanting to fight
and push back.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But if you go into an understanding that he's speaking
to you to help you because he loves you, then
it's a whole different animal.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Right, you know it's Matthew thirteen. I always like to
find it for this reason. I speak to them in terables,
because seeing that they do not see in hearing that
they do not hear in nor do they understand. And
it's like, I totally understand what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
If you look it, he uses way too many words
for man. He could have summed that all up by saying,
seeing that they were boneheads and ignorant.
Speaker 16 (33:11):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
That Bible would go from two and a half insance
about an inch and a quarter.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
He should have he should have consulted with me. I
would have cleaned the whole thing up.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But it's so beautiful. They may be ever seeing but
never perceiving, and every hearing but never understanding. Otherwise they
might turn and be forgiven what. I totally understand that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I'll be right. The message, the best message Bibles, the.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Best Okay, nod all day long.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Oh God, you're gonna get me in trouble because I know,
never mind, where was that funny.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So so let's get back to I want to talk
a little bit about out this this paper because it
has everything in it that you and I have talked
about over the years. Right, you got born in quote
unquote born again Christians who say they believe the Bible,
but they don't believe the Bible is absolute. So there's
there's a mental health issue problem right there. You're going
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to stake your eternal life on somebody that's talked about
in a Bible that you don't believe is total truth.
That's the sickness. You need help, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You need something.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And on top of that, you have very specific, non
negotiable rules in the Bible, right and why.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Tell people why they're non negotiable because people have an
issue with that?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Because they're God's rules.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Then God made you.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He made this whole thing, the rules, and he didn't
call you to see how the universe should look, and
he didn't call you to see how big the Bible
should be and whether the sky should be blue and
the grass should be He doesn't need you, so he
doesn't at all.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
And that right there, there's so many things right there
should be it isn't a concept that people cannot understand.
If you form a company and grow it, you get
to make the rules. I mean we're still essex and things,
but you know what I mean. You can just say
when people clock in and clock out, and when they
eat and what they do, and that they eat in
the kitchen and they sit and they go right, so
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does if I was God?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
If I was God, everybody out. Okay, I start all
over and the Bible would be two pages. Here's the
story what I did to the people before you now
get it straight.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Are you're going to end up there? Okay?
Speaker 6 (35:48):
It'd all be Italian Italian?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh okay, sorry?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yes, them them in sauce and gravy. Those are two
fighting Ali and I were.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Talking about you because she's like, I feel like Italian food,
and I'm like, what did you say? You? You better
be glad Joe Massine is not here and she's just
why and I what did you just say? She goes,
I want Italian food? No, you said Italian foods? Like
what's Joe Italian? And I'm like, okay, Joe Italian? Catholic?
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Trump's been a little We'll be back at a minute.
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Speaker 6 (43:08):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Just go ahead, stuck on.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
I'm sorry anyway.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah, please move on.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
What's your question?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I forgot what the question was, but I know I
wrote notes here, Thank God before we went to break.
I told you I was having a hard time with
these quote unquote committed Christians basing their lives, basing what
they do not on scripture as much as on their
feelings or traditions of their family or or or you
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know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Well, yes, and within this research that he does, you know,
with the shift of how Americans you Christianity, it's so
I don't it hurts my head that there's a rise
in personal commitment to Jesus, yet there's a also a
rise in focusing on personal spirituality and redefining church and
(44:21):
a decline in church attentions. So how are we so
we believe in Jesus but we're not gonna live like it? Yes, yes,
I and yes, I don't even know what to do
with that.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
All right, Well, what's Jesus. You know, Look, I don't
want to get all spiritual too on people, but there's
a reality that there's a book you're reading. There's a
book that you claim you base your life on. And
in somewhere in that conversation you say you don't believe
that it's like the perfect word of God.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Is okay?
Speaker 1 (44:58):
So which part is is in how do you make
the decisions? Is what's real and what's not real? That's
going to be confusing?
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Well, absolutely, and that you know you and I have
talked about that so many times that if you don't
believe in the moral standards of God and your moral
code is not based on what this country's is. You know,
we're supposed to be supposed to be by our founding bothers,
which is the word God can commandments. We can start there,
you know. Mike A six A suggestice, love, mercy, pact justly.
(45:31):
But it's it's it then what are you doing? And
and and this is again now I can bring in
my psychological perspective when I meet with mass shooters, when
I meet with these foster kids in the system, when
I meet with you know, kids in prison and and
just normally great kids but when I ask them, hey,
(45:52):
what's what do you value? What's your value system?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Look like?
Speaker 6 (45:54):
You know? Like what do you mean? I'm like, okay, gosh,
you're walking around society and you don't know what value
system is? Okay, what you value is? You know? And
I kind of listed exercise, eating well, eating French fries
every day, people who like to walk, people who like
the museum. And then I ask them and they give
them to me. But the second one is even harder,
is what does your moral code look like? And they
(46:17):
look at me like what the heck? And so you're
right and wrong? What do you feel is right? And
what do you feel is wrong? And they still, and
even adults look at me when I say this, and
this is a problem. And this is not just a
spiritual Christian problem. This is a sietal problem. And this
is why, you know, there's a point here, This is
why we're seeing such a decline and division in society.
(46:41):
Your rights and your wrongs?
Speaker 8 (46:42):
Murder?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Is that okay? And then I'll have people say no,
and I'm like, oh, so never, right, never murder? Not
the death penalty? Oh yeah, no, absolutely, you know, not
the death Or they'll be like, yes, the death penalty, okay, abortion,
killing babies, Oh yeah, absolutely, that's okay. You know, it's
just like, oh gosh, okay, so you believe that. And
then we go smoking drugs, you know, saxophore, marriage, you know,
(47:05):
we just list them all and they're just like, well,
that should be up to every person individually. And I'm
like murdering, like, well, yeah, I mean because some people
feel like the death penalty is okay, So I'm don't
some feel like a Worson's okase, I don't. I'm like,
but murder. So you think that that was one thing,
Joe that blew my mind? So you think that should
be up to each individual? Yes, then why do we
(47:27):
have laws? Why do we have prisons? And this is
what but this is what we're seeing coming up with
our youth and these millennials that started with the millennials.
It's this whole absolute truth, right, it's all subjective. So
I then posed to them. Then if someone walks, you know,
across the street and stabs you, is that okay? Well no,
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well doesn't it depend why? You know? They're like, no,
that's wrong according to who, Well me, that's just wrong, right.
But that's the thing I get to it. Well, but
you said subjective, Well not in that cake. Well of
course not, because it's you. But you know what I mean,
it becomes circular because God says do not murder. Right,
we can't have people just feeling going with their feelings
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because I feel like doing that. I feel like tripping you.
I feel like I just watched that special needs aide
beat up that kid. I apparently she got arrested. Have
you seen that she was deepically on the bus beating
up special needs kids since she was just arrested, and
because she felt like it, She's like, well I needed
an outlet. Okay, well you and some people are standing up.
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I understand she must have been stressed and what so
she can beat up? Yes, So that's what frightens me.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
That is you a number?
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Was there a stress number?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Maybe I could use it to take care of some
people I want to take care of me.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
Right, It just blows my mind. And just talking about
like that Frisco kid, right, well, he's you know, you know,
not privileged, and so he gets to stab people. Okay,
that this is the problem. I mean, we laughed, but
it's becoming a very serious societal problem.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Okay, But do you remember that kid that I don't know,
if he ran people and he did something really bad
and the judge let him go or gave him the
lighter signal, a lighter sentence because he he had too
much privilege. And the reason he was the way he
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was is because his parents had too much privilege and
gave him too much. He was I'm thinking of myself.
I wait a minute, Okay, So so he got spoiled
by his parents, can't control his anger, and that's why
you gave him a light sentence, you know, over something
so regious. And I'm going, where is that in the law.
I must have missed that one.
Speaker 6 (49:52):
The moral rights and wrongs, you know, when you don't
follow the same code. There they go and okay, so
we believe the Koran's okay, let's just go with the Muslim.
But let's go with that one. Oh yeah, I mean
they have a freedom of Okay, they want to blow
up anybody that's not a Muslim.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Including is that okay?
Speaker 8 (50:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (50:13):
You look at Gaza and people who fight for that,
and I'm like, they hate your Okay. I just it's
just you're right, you know, I think that we are
losing our way and it's it's that's the division. It
has nothing to do with anything else. But you throw
God out of it, and then what do you where
(50:33):
are you going to go? So get rid of the prisons, honestly,
get rid of them. There's no reason to have them,
if there's no right or wrong right, get rid of
the cops.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yea, then it's a whole different animal.
Speaker 6 (50:47):
Right, So yes, right, remember BLM and all of that. Right,
I need cops. And next thing, she's like calling nine
to one one because you know, someone hit her car.
That was the funniest video.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
So let me Yeah, I know, I'm all over the
place with you, but I'm doing it on purpose because
I mean, there's so many things that people are going
to be dealing with.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You've got the CDC and others coming down talking about, uh,
you know, the millions of jabs that people took here
in this country and now the side effects that they're
having from them. Now, you've got to be some people
are going to be sitting there on the couch going,
oh my god, I had three of those or I
had you know what I'm saying, two of the shots
and now they're seeing, you know, heart issues here and there,
(51:28):
You're going to have a lot of people that are
going to be under some real mental anguish over the
next few years at least, I think so.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
Yeah, like the the lack of development and the developmental
issues we saw on our teens wasn't bad enough, and
all of these kids during COVID, and then on top
of that, you've got the physiological issues, you know, with
the heart, with the brain, with the entire latactic system,
deliver of the kidneys, because that's what these you know,
(51:56):
are any little molecules, molecules to do they hover over
these organs and yeah, and gosh, don it if there's
cancer in your body, it accelerates it. And that's all
I mean, that's I'm not a medical doctor, but you
all can go to the CDC, like you said, Joe,
and look up all of it.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
You see countries who are openly talking about the issues
that they're seeing that they're having.
Speaker 6 (52:23):
You know, yes, yes, still, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Feel like really bad if I got one of my
kids or forced my kids to get it and today
they're suffering, I mean, really would feel like a piece
of work.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
Yeah, And that's going to cause definitely mental and psychological
language with parents and it's just it's unfortunate. It's just
unfortunate how the lust works and doesn't care and doesn't
fully do their research. And I don't know. And that's
truth tellers, right, we're conspiracy there.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, okay, I sent you with this is I gotta
say this really fast. But I sent you a clip
of an old time psychiatrist and he said, look, not
everything's a mental issue, and he goes through a whole
bunch of stuff. He said, none of that is a
mental issue. But yet it's all a mental issue today
and it's wrong. Yeah, you know, and you have to
(53:18):
watch that. Yeah, I'll send it to you again.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Listen, God blessed. Thanks for what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Appreciate you being on and I will wrangle you again
next week, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Ye see you later, Joe seeing your house. Don't do
any stupid people.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I want you back to be on Monday.
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