April 29, 2025 • 53 mins
Pacific Justice Institute's (PJI) founder Brad Dacus joins Joe to discuss legal issues of the Day that affect your parental and religious rights! www.PJI.org
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we got I got too many stories up. I get
all excited and then it doesn't work. You know, you
know what I'm saying. Anyhow, I get some Scotis rulings
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or opinions or thoughts. I want to run by Brad.
They are making me crazy. So Zuckerberg stepped up, say,
you know, besides dropping out of the Harvard you know
he still values college for life experiences. He thinks it's
you know, it's a great place to meet people. He
met his wife's slash future business partner there. But he
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said that college today isn't is it really getting people
ready or getting the students ready for the job market
right the debt burden that they take on, the jobs
aren't there. And for some of these categories that they
that they graduate from, there's nothing there for them. So
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and you know, they's funny how they say he dropped out.
I mean he was in Harvard. He was about ready
to make a major breakthrough. When you stay in college
and see what happens. Anyway, he did voice concerns about
the current college system for being costly, leaving many students
in debt, not adequately preparing them for today's job market.
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He also added that society's views are shifting under the
necessity of a degree. The society, the mercedity, society shifted
on that twenty years ago. Look, I did to make
a million bucks. I'm not all set for retirement, but
I will tell you that. You know, I raised four
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kids on half of my own business, being in the
computer world, being an electrician at one point, and none
of that required a college degree. None of it. I
had a family feed. You know. Zuckerberg is one of
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the handful of famous billionaires who dropped out of college,
but he still advocates for higher education. Now, look, higher
higher education is more than just I don't know, advocating
for people to go to college. I mean, it could
be trade school, it could be any of those things.
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But he went on and he said he back, college
is an opportunity for life experience. Don't go there for
your career, go there for life experience. Yeah no, no,
thank you, because I don't believe that's real life experience,
especially what you're seeing come out of somebody. These professors
speaking this past Weekend podcast with the THEO Vaughn. In
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an episode released last night, Zuckerberg he recounted the relationships
he made while studying in Harvard, including meeting his wife,
and the positive impact of this on his overall life.
He said, but college no longer needed to land a
role in current job market. No, so what you want
to run up a high bill, write a lifelong bill.
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Some of these people, it's almost as much as the house.
So again, and you're seeing more and more Google and
other places no longer require college degrees for certain areas.
Right until recently he funded two tuition free schools for
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low income families. Did he agreed with the point made
by Vaughn that college students aren't guaranteed any rate of
employment after graduating. It would be one of those things
if college was just a social experience, but you started
off neutrol, it's not really getting you ready for anything.
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And I agree with him. I mean, Zuckerberg's worth by
two hundred billion dollars or stuff like that. You can
find about Bloomberg billionaire list. He was already he's already
on the ice with the Ivy League schools, having been
called out in front of a disciplinary hearing for creating
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a website named face smash that encourage people to vote
between two individuals on who was more attractive. What's wrong
with that?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Really, part of that too is finding out the different
groups as to who they prefer. You know, they're always
trying to tie something together. Do I'll take do older
Italian men prefer blonde women or brunettes? Do they prefer
Asian women as opposed to American women? You know, I
mean these would be great things to notice see if
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it's some kind of a connection there, whether it's food
or relationships or whatever. I think it would be interesting anyway,
you know. He went on to say that they create
a lot of close friendships there. Hey, don't really care
so that the friendships aren't there, which you know, again,
I know a lot of people went to college, had
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a bunch of friends and they only have one or
two left. So I don't know how important it is
from that point of view. Most kids go to college
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of the conversation. I want to get right to our buddy.
Brad always had some great information for us. Brad Dankins
joined this founder of Pacific Justice Institute. And Brad, how
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are we doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh? We're doing just great.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm glad. Did you see the rally.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Today you know, uh yeah, the President Trump's rally in
the Michigan Yes, yeah, I did, Actually.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah yeah. And Gresia Whitman was more than happy
to It seemed like at first she was more than
happy to take, you know, take all that in be
part of the party. Couldn't help herself, you know. Anyway,
she at one point though, she didn't look like she
was gonna start crawling out of her skin. I guess
it was just you know, too much for him, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So yeah, a buddy of mine last night, let me
see if I can find this. I wasn't gonna I
wasn't gonna bring it up, but I just got to
because it's like eating away at me. A couple of
things here, ah, in the contra cost of news in California.
Here new California Democrats States said into Olola Smallwood. Quavis
has introduced SB five sixty. It's a bill that would
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decriminalize welfare fraud below an amount of twenty five thousand dollars.
It would also prohibit prosecutions for attempted welfare fraud. In
other words, if you lie in the application, get caught,
and would prohibit someone from being charged with perjury if
they did so. I mean we we are coming. The
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California state is now not a sanctuary state anymore. It's
now a criminal state. Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh? Correct? These laws are insane in that they basically,
please say, you can break the law, you can lie,
you commit perjury, you can steal from the people of California,
and there's no punishment. You're going to get off scot free.
What happens when we adopt laws like that? Does crime
increase or decrease? It increases, Yeah, it increases rapidly. Because
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not everyone went to Sunday school growing up. Not everyone
does things just because it's the right thing to do. No,
we have lots of scum in our society that are
willing to do and steal and take whatever they can
if they don't get caught, if they don't get punished,
and unfortunately that reality is going to manifest itself horrifically
if something like this actually becomes law.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yep, you're exactly right. Also another one for Kelly. See,
I just California is truly the land of fruits and
nuts and it doesn't help, but the legislature does stuff
like this. Another one that was breaking today, which I
don't even You've got to be able to fight some
of these. This one is AB three seventy nine and
it was it was put forward by let me see,
ye oh, I can't even tell anyway. It's going to
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be changed in committee to exclude felony charges for those
who are ready for this one buy sixteen and seventeen
year olds for sex. So if you buy a human
being to have sex at sixteen and seventeen, that's okay,
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get be arrested for it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't even know what to do with those.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah. I mean, once again, it's it's taking away the
responsibility and the accountability that people have when they when
they danger of minor. These are miners. They're called miners
for a reason. They're still developing and they you know,
and people who take advantage of them, and then I
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escape any kind of you know, merit real, you know,
relevant serious punishment. What's it going to precipitate more people
feeling at liberty to take advantage of these girls? Now,
mind you, if there was a long as far as
dealing with pedophile status and saying, okay, we're going to
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distinguish you know, a nineteen year old having sex with
a sixteen year old, we're going to distinguish that with
versus a man molesting a boy. You know, that has
some rational thinking to it in terms of distinguishment, in
terms of level of punishment, but as far as just
you know, the crime itself. If we don't want our
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sixteen and seventeen year olds to be you know, taken
advantage of by man girls who are lost, confused, perhaps
there the fruit of human trafficking. We have to maintain
the punishment and there has to be a huge disincentive
for those how to prey on young girls.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, all right. The other thing somebody asked
me to ask you because none of us know what
this means. But what is judicial immunity? You know, see
these judges that were arrested. It's it's just classic that
the left is screaming that it was against protocol the
way they arrested them and putting them in handcuffs. They
should have allowed themselves to turn themselves in. And I'm thinking, yeah,
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shouldn't Juliani the same thing. He was no flight risk,
you know, any one of those guys that you guys
decided to shackle, put in handcaps and drag all over
the place. That wasn't right either. But there's a conversation
around some kind of judicial immunity. How how in either one.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Of these right? Well, judicial immunity is something that's used
very loosely, but that's actually narrower than people think. It's
not a it's not a get out of jail free
no matter what a judge does or says, by any means,
It's actually very narrow and it applies to decisions verdicts
that are carried out by the judge in their capacity
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as a judge. Well, enabling a criminal illegal alien to
go out the back door and uh and and order
ice to leave the courtroom and then order them to
go out the back door to escape federal law enforcement.
That has nothing to do with her job as a judge. No,
I would say, she's not immune, and she should be prosecuted.
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In fact, it's interesting the Wisconsin it's the bar association
they agree with her on that, they agree with that,
and that they've have removed they suspended her as a judge.
It was announced today and she's suspended as a judge
in Wisconsin, and there's going to be in a course
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of investigation, et cetera. But they've already moved on it
because I think they see on the face of it,
it's it's a clear breach of public trust and and
something that should you know, she should be removed from
from serving in the judiciary.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now, Brad. They're picking them up on on you know,
federal charges of you know, aiding and betting harboring a
an illegal alien criminal, which is a federal offense. And
this is this is perfectly legal and doable.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Correct, Oh, it's it's it's totally legal, legal and doable.
And here's the deal here is that these judges they're
not held to a lower standard. No, they're to be
held to a higher standard, not a lower standard. So
if individuals and any individual in the United States is
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aiding and a betting a criminal or specifically harboring an
illegal alien in their home in the contexts particularly and
they know that they're an illegal alien, and they're they're
doing so knowingly and willingly and abating, aiding and a
betting their UH status here criminally to continue the average person.
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And no, they can be tried and arrested and prosecuted. Well,
a judge should not be held to a lower standard.
They should be able to do it even a higher standard,
Derek Judge. They should be an exemplary of law abiding citizens.
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We are back, Joe Massini, your host. Always a pleasure
to have you with me. Eight five five real Joe
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You know, as the Democrats are running all around the
place today screaming about the Constitution. This constitution. Now we
got a constitutional crisis book where President Trump is doing.
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Do not even look at what their own party is doing.
Colorado now rejects the US Constitution, it's destroying parental rights
and just basically tell you everybody to go pound sand
Brad Dey disjoins me found the Pacific Justice Institute. Always
appreciate his time with me. Brad, thanks for being with
me here today.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's great to do on the program. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So. The Colorado Huse are representatives recently passed a bill
that will remove children from parents custody for uh say,
for behaviors such as misgendering, dead naming a transgender identified child.
The bill, in Dorsh's forced feeding children false ideas like
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a queer gender ideology of their parents, acquiesce to these
or else Come on, tell me they can't get away
with this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, the end, I don't think they will get away
with this, and that if there is a family, I
need to say, this is begging for litigation and const
social challenge. So if there is a family in any
state that where they are told like in California or Colorado, Oregon,
Washington State is its name, a few of the Blue
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states where they're told that you have to play along
with the child's gender confusion. You have to participate, you
have to encourage it effectively, and if you don't, then
you lose your child. The state will come and take
the child, start the injections, and then which will lead
to tax fair funded masochism where they cut off the
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body parts of the child so that they're sterilized for
the rest of our life. We had a case just
like this in Plaster County, California, and We got it halted,
we got the injections prevented. They're about to start the
injection process and then the surgical procedures of cutting off
body parts of this young girl. It's sick, it's masochistic.
It should be they should all be criminally indicted and
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put into behind bars for fifty years. But no, Governor
Gaven Newsom, this is his this is what he's pushing,
this is what he's supporting and with his blessing the
state of California. So we went and we challenged it.
We after two years of litigation, we finally prevailed. This
girl after being in a horrific foster home where horrific
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things happened, she was finally given back to her parents.
The girl wanted to be with her parents the whole time,
the whole time, but the government said, no, no, we
know what's best for you. We're taking you from your
family and because we want to help you. Yeah, this
is what this is. Plaster County, one of the most
conservative counties in the state. Well, it's because it's not
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a county issue, it's a state issue. It's what Governor
Gavin Newsom is pushing to deprive parents and to take
children from parents full right to taking children and for
hideous child abuse pro child abuse reasons, which is what
this all really amounts to. So we prevailed. We have
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had other cases like this, we're having these, We have
another one in Montana, so these are all over the country,
and yet Colorado wants to institutionalize this. Well, if there's
any parents in Colorado who see their family in any
way at risk or in need of protection potentially, they
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should contact us immediately and we'll be happy to represent
them to challenge this. Still, should I go into effect
and be signed to law.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's crazy. It's just this crazy stuff makes my stomach turn.
I mean, that's sincerely. You know, when you look at
what's happening and you look at how they just throw
this stuff out there and right away this law enforcement
officials and others and they're jumping all over this. This
is just it's wrong on so many levels, and it's
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you know, it's a blatant attempt to take away the
god given right. You know, it's just amazing to me
that they haven't figured out this is a god given
right to raise your kids. And even if they don't
believe in God, they didn't birth these kids. I'm just
I'm floored by this. This is really one of those
things where I go to my daughter, leave the state,
(29:46):
you know, get the heck, guy, what are you doing here?
Kind of thing. So I don't know anyhow, I had
another one here. I had really just ready to go
for you. Anyhow, the come on, Joe, I hate computers.
You know that they take forever to come up the
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Supreme Court. I don't know if I say you this one,
but this is the Supreme Court. People say, well, they
need to halt the discrimination against religious schools. So I
guess there's a few states. On Wednesday, the Supreme Court
is going to hear I guess that's tomorrow oral arguments
in Oklahoma state Wide Charter School Board versus Drummond, which
will determine whether a state can exclude religious schools from
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charter school programs. Now, we went through this but after
school programs at religious schools correct years ago? Yeah, remember it.
And I think the Supreme Court ruled, no, you couldn't
withhold private public funds if these schools, you know, are
offering these programs. And I don't know if you see
(30:52):
the same thing here and that you mean charter schools
are public schools in essence and don't constitutionally, where does
it say you can't give public funds to a religious
school and they'll give me the church and state thing.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah. So here's what's interesting. We have we have competing
case law and this is sort of right in the middle.
So on one side, you have the case law which
says public schools cannot act as religious schools. They can't proselytize,
you know, they can't you know, have kids praying in
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the context of a certain theology or belief. You know,
there's a you know, it's very you know established with
case law, you know, and and that's the way partially
they I think they overreacted by taking out the Bible,
taking out prayer, et cetera. But that's that's the case
law deal with public schools, you know, and saying you
cannot be religious school if you're a public school. However,
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on the other side, the court is held in the
case out of Spinosa, case out of Montana, and then
the other one out of Me and they said, look,
if you're giving funding to fund students to be able
to go to a private school, a secular private school,
then you can't keep them from going to a religious
private school. You can't discriminate like that. And then here
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we have a charter school which is technically funded by
the state, but is a charter school is something that
is independent, functions independent. It's not managed by the state.
It's managed by a private entity, a private educational institution
that is functioning in their own right and their own capacity,
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and so it's in many ways it's already acting and
functioning like a private school. I think the core should
rule instead. I think they should lean towards religious freedom
in this regard, because the question should be is a
charter school does it have the effect of functioning as
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a government school with government controls and government expectations of controls,
or is it known and functioning practically and functioning independent
of the government. Well, yes, that's why we have charter
schools because traditional public schools are messed up. They're failing,
and our kids are failing. And that's why these charter
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schools are separate and functioning, separate and independent and being
led and directed not by the public school system or
the government, but rather by a private entity that is
taking on the task. But it is government funded. So
I think they should should rule in favor of religious
charter schools so long as they're the state of Oklahoma
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isn't just giving it to only Baptist charter schools and
excluding Catholic charter schools.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's part of what you know to the city, he said,
Once they start dolling out money to these other school sources,
can't discriminating against the religious ones. I believe it's one
of the things that you and I talked about years ago,
right when it came to stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, so I think I think
in the end, once again, so long as they don't
discriminate on which religious schools they're going to give money too,
as long as they treat them all the same, secular
and religious charter schools, and they look at objective criteria
in terms of uh, you know there, do they have
a curriculum, do they have you know, the basics to
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measure success, and in terms of the basics of education,
et cetera, then you know, then they all need to
be treated the same. They need to be given the
same opportunity for funding. And at the end of the day,
parents are the ones who are going to be make
to make the decision. That's what's great about educational choices.
It gives parents the ability to make more decisions. The
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more freedom parents have, the more competition we have among schools,
and the more pressure we have on public schools to
ship up or.
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Always a pleasure to head you with me. Five five
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How's that Let's start off there, all right? Brad Dakas
joins me. He is the founder Pacific Justice Institute. Always
(41:49):
appreciate his time with Brad. Give us some insight scoop
on Pacific.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Justice Oh, you bet we have. Pacific Justice Institute are
a very unique organization defend religious freedom, parents' rights against
the government and government, schools and social workers, things of
human life, and we do it very uniquely. We have
thirty six offices coast to coast. We have over two
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hundred and seventy cases and active litigation, let alone, thousands
and thousands we help every year without charge for the
council and assistance. And then where we're an organization is
but we don't just cherry pick a few high profile cases.
Our goal is make sure that everyone gets helped, that
no one has left on the side of the road ever.
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And that's our goal, and we do a really good job,
you know, to completing that goal all across the country,
all without charge.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yep. And I've even heard kudos from other attorneys about
your firm. So you need to know people. You need
to know that, and that's something that you know you
don't doesn't happen that often, you know. Yeah, we were
talking earlier about about judges that you know, hide these
these thugs. I'm gonna call them what they are, right,
(43:05):
you know, they're they're hiding these thugs and and what
have you? Had One judge in particular, he didn't just
hide them. He didn't just like, you know, let them
out the back door, but he actually showed them how
to destroy information on the phone while they were living
with him.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right yeah, yeah, and also also gave them access to
weapons reportedly.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah there were weapons, right, there were weapons the home
or something like that. And uh, I'm thinking to myself, okay, again,
where's the no ones above the law? People? Remember them
that were running all around the place, and now they're
trying to protect him.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, it's really it's really sad when we see this
and this blatant corruption. It's and what's coming out through
the DOGE is shocking, absolutely shocking. We see the money
that's been given out to liberal causes and leftist agendas
(44:03):
and individuals pocketing it. Stacy Abrams is a classic two
billion dollars to her little environment pro environmental climate, anti
climate change fund, which I understand was since she was
caught the moneys. I think someone told me that she
had to give it back. You shame and disgrace upon
her and her family.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
They don't have any shame. You're you're they have no shame.
They could care less because it's it's for the greater
good brand, don't you know that.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, and then they're in their pockets and their new
private jet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
That's the greater good there you go.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, yeah, so to help the environment, of course, yes,
so a private jet. But anyway, but yeah, it's it
is shocking when we see what's taking place and these
these terrible double standards. But the good news is that
we have a different sheriff in town, we have a
different Department of Justice, and they're going after them like
(45:00):
never before. And I think this is I think we're
going to be seeing a shock, if you will, a
shock in awe if you will, among all these activist
judges that are realizing, oh shoot, I thought I could
just do this. I somehow thought that I was somehow immune.
And they're not immune from prosecution when they do things
(45:20):
that are particularly outside the scope of their employment as
a judge. They're not immune, and they can be prosecuted.
And we know with this administration, the Trump administration, they
will be prosecuted as they should be.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, I get, I get, you know, biggest chick out
of some of these people. Don't do any checking to see
what's going on. You know. First of all, I want
to get back to our violence here with J. D. Pritzgraw.
I don't know if you heard, you know, he came
out and said that, you know, we need to have
chaos to the streets. We need to take our fight
to the street. We need to do it. And you're
going on on and on. I'm thinking if Trump even
(45:55):
approached any of that right, they would have him in
jail already, right.
Speaker 6 (46:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And and here's the guy. So I'm saying to you,
if if a fight breaks out somewhere, violence breaks out
in his state, I hope BONDI goes after him. You know,
you incited this. Did you hear your words? You didn't
say go peacefully protest. You you talked about violence and
chaos and mayhem in the streets.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, if if someone says something.
Speaker 10 (46:27):
That is.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
They is specific and they just say this is a
corrupt or you know, administration and we must oppose it,
that's not going to get them. And then people respond
in some way that's not going to get them arrested.
But if they say we need to storm the White House,
let's all storm the White House, or let's storm the
you know, and they all get revved up and they
all do it. Well, now they can be currently prosecuted.
(46:51):
Even if they went home and watch TV, watch the
football game, and eat popcorn, they can still be prosecuted
because they're the ones who incited specific violence that took
place that they knew or should have known was going
to take place based on what they did and said, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Think it's Uh, these people all just totally amazed me.
Like I think you've been up against Attorney General Rob
Banta here in California, where you know, the guy's just
out of control with anything that he believes or perceives
is illegal. He's going to file a suit against you.
And most people don't have the moody to fight it,
or they don't want to fight it. But God is
the Attorney general from California. But I mean, these guys
(47:31):
are working over time to file suits against Donald Trump
on a regular basis, whether it has to do with tariffs,
whether it has to do with keeping education money away
because they're not following the rules. You know, you said
it earlier and I saw something about it, but I
hadn't pulled it up yet, which is the This looks
like the Supreme Court at some point in time may
(47:53):
take this up, may take up the overreach, if you would,
of these justices. How true do you they? That is?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, I think it's very true. And I think what
we're going to see is the Supreme Court is going
to be taken up. But I've talked about this in
the past when we were talking about different options and
then the Constitution, et cetera. But I said the most
likely and the most imminent resolve will be for the
Supreme Court to take it up. They will, and they're
gonna and I'm very confident. I think they will be
addressing it as early as well tomorrow during during.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yes right tomorrow, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, in oral arguments, So tomorrow, I think it will
be Uh. It will be an issue that I think that
they will be addressing and and they should address. I
think they I think they know they must address it.
They want to maintain order. When people perceive that there's
not order and there's not justice, then they take the
law into their own hands. And that's the last thing
(48:50):
the Supreme Court wants to precipitate. They need to make
it very clear we have a system of law and order.
One judge and little, one little federal district court cannot
control all the entire country and internationally and domestic in
terms of policy and procedure. They can't do that. So
I think the Supreme Court has got to make that
really clear. Otherwise American people are gonna be very frustrated
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to say, we have a joke for a judicial system.
All that takes is one nut sitting on the leftist
nuts sitting on a bench to ruin the lives of
everyone else, to cause mayhem. So I do think we're
going to see that take place.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Well, I hope you're right. I'll start off there. And
you know, I'm looking at another gun ruling coming down
for California, where Scots I don't know, they really don't
seem to be on the side of the people when
it comes to the state deciding that they're not going
to allow and I'll just take one part of it.
In particular, they're not allow these gun shows to take
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place at unstate property, some of it being fairgrounds and
raceways and that kind of stuff. Although I didn't know
that they owned those kinds of properties. But there. But
but other groups are allowed to be there. You know,
I don't. I don't understand why the gun groups would
not be allowed to be there. I help me stand.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, So there, there's they're they're claiming that they just
have to have a rational basis the lowest standard part
of scrutiny in order to exclude a group like a
gun show. But you're dealing with the constitutional right. And
I would argue, and I think this was what would
have argued before the Spreme Court if they took it up,
(50:27):
is that no, we're dealing with the second of memor
rights to bear arms because it says that they shall
not infringe. Government shall not infringe, and that include state
governments can infringe upon the right of individuals to bear arms. Well,
what does fringe mean? In fringe? Does that mean just
outright only only you know, ban it. No, it means
to limit in the to limit. And what are you
(50:49):
doing when you're saying, oh, no, gun shows can't exist
on public properties to fairgrounds. You're taking an overt action
to in some way limit or infringe upon the ability
for people to on their own to be able to
have access to a public gathering where they have guns
(51:10):
and things like that at a gun show. You know,
it's you know, gun shows have to comply with the regulations,
the safety.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Recruit strict laws. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, they're very strict. So this isn't about you know,
health or safety or I mean, people can still get
guns from arguably from other places. But this is the
government using their heavy hand to be hostile and prejudicial
towards those wishing to explore or exercise their right under
the Second Amendment by attending such a such a place.
Speaker 10 (51:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Just again, just amazing to me. And and scotis by
them not taking it up. They let the Nce Circuit
Court rule stand.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
But there's only binding on the Ninth Circuit, which is
still only binding on the Western States. It's not binding
on the rest of the country.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Isn't that funny? The Ninth Circuit can only bind something there,
and some lowly federal judge up in right Tullyville, Washington
does a nationwide you know, stay just.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Exactly that's the problem, and I think that's what the
street courts can run.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I hope, I hope to God. So okay, listen, God
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or opinions or thoughts. I want to run by Brad.
They are making me crazy. So Zuckerberg stepped up, say,
you know, besides dropping out of the Harvard you know
he still values college for life experiences. He thinks it's
you know, it's a great place to meet people. He
met his wife's slash future business partner there. But he
(01:40):
said that college today isn't is it really getting people
ready or getting the students ready for the job market
right the debt burden that they take on, the jobs
aren't there. And for some of these categories that they
that they graduate from, there's nothing there for them. So
(02:02):
and you know, they's funny how they say he dropped out.
I mean he was in Harvard. He was about ready
to make a major breakthrough. When you stay in college
and see what happens. Anyway, he did voice concerns about
the current college system for being costly, leaving many students
in debt, not adequately preparing them for today's job market.
(02:23):
He also added that society's views are shifting under the
necessity of a degree. The society, the mercedity, society shifted
on that twenty years ago. Look, I did to make
a million bucks. I'm not all set for retirement, but
I will tell you that. You know, I raised four
(02:43):
kids on half of my own business, being in the
computer world, being an electrician at one point, and none
of that required a college degree. None of it. I
had a family feed. You know. Zuckerberg is one of
(03:04):
the handful of famous billionaires who dropped out of college,
but he still advocates for higher education. Now, look, higher
higher education is more than just I don't know, advocating
for people to go to college. I mean, it could
be trade school, it could be any of those things.
(03:27):
But he went on and he said he back, college
is an opportunity for life experience. Don't go there for
your career, go there for life experience. Yeah no, no,
thank you, because I don't believe that's real life experience,
especially what you're seeing come out of somebody. These professors
speaking this past Weekend podcast with the THEO Vaughn. In
(03:49):
an episode released last night, Zuckerberg he recounted the relationships
he made while studying in Harvard, including meeting his wife,
and the positive impact of this on his overall life.
He said, but college no longer needed to land a
role in current job market. No, so what you want
to run up a high bill, write a lifelong bill.
(04:10):
Some of these people, it's almost as much as the house.
So again, and you're seeing more and more Google and
other places no longer require college degrees for certain areas.
Right until recently he funded two tuition free schools for
(04:31):
low income families. Did he agreed with the point made
by Vaughn that college students aren't guaranteed any rate of
employment after graduating. It would be one of those things
if college was just a social experience, but you started
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with that?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Really, part of that too is finding out the different
groups as to who they prefer. You know, they're always
trying to tie something together. Do I'll take do older
Italian men prefer blonde women or brunettes? Do they prefer
Asian women as opposed to American women? You know, I
mean these would be great things to notice see if
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or relationships or whatever. I think it would be interesting anyway,
you know. He went on to say that they create
a lot of close friendships there. Hey, don't really care
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I know a lot of people went to college, had
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are we doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh? We're doing just great.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm glad. Did you see the rally.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Today you know, uh yeah, the President Trump's rally in
the Michigan Yes, yeah, I did, Actually.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah yeah. And Gresia Whitman was more than happy
to It seemed like at first she was more than
happy to take, you know, take all that in be
part of the party. Couldn't help herself, you know. Anyway,
she at one point though, she didn't look like she
was gonna start crawling out of her skin. I guess
it was just you know, too much for him, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
So yeah, a buddy of mine last night, let me
see if I can find this. I wasn't gonna I
wasn't gonna bring it up, but I just got to
because it's like eating away at me. A couple of
things here, ah, in the contra cost of news in California.
Here new California Democrats States said into Olola Smallwood. Quavis
has introduced SB five sixty. It's a bill that would
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decriminalize welfare fraud below an amount of twenty five thousand dollars.
It would also prohibit prosecutions for attempted welfare fraud. In
other words, if you lie in the application, get caught,
and would prohibit someone from being charged with perjury if
they did so. I mean we we are coming. The
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California state is now not a sanctuary state anymore. It's
now a criminal state. Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh? Correct? These laws are insane in that they basically,
please say, you can break the law, you can lie,
you commit perjury, you can steal from the people of California,
and there's no punishment. You're going to get off scot free.
What happens when we adopt laws like that? Does crime
increase or decrease? It increases, Yeah, it increases rapidly. Because
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not everyone went to Sunday school growing up. Not everyone
does things just because it's the right thing to do. No,
we have lots of scum in our society that are
willing to do and steal and take whatever they can
if they don't get caught, if they don't get punished,
and unfortunately that reality is going to manifest itself horrifically
if something like this actually becomes law.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yep, you're exactly right. Also another one for Kelly. See,
I just California is truly the land of fruits and
nuts and it doesn't help, but the legislature does stuff
like this. Another one that was breaking today, which I
don't even You've got to be able to fight some
of these. This one is AB three seventy nine and
it was it was put forward by let me see,
ye oh, I can't even tell anyway. It's going to
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be changed in committee to exclude felony charges for those
who are ready for this one buy sixteen and seventeen
year olds for sex. So if you buy a human
being to have sex at sixteen and seventeen, that's okay,
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get be arrested for it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't even know what to do with those.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah. I mean, once again, it's it's taking away the
responsibility and the accountability that people have when they when
they danger of minor. These are miners. They're called miners
for a reason. They're still developing and they you know,
and people who take advantage of them, and then I
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escape any kind of you know, merit real, you know,
relevant serious punishment. What's it going to precipitate more people
feeling at liberty to take advantage of these girls? Now,
mind you, if there was a long as far as
dealing with pedophile status and saying, okay, we're going to
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distinguish you know, a nineteen year old having sex with
a sixteen year old, we're going to distinguish that with
versus a man molesting a boy. You know, that has
some rational thinking to it in terms of distinguishment, in
terms of level of punishment, but as far as just
you know, the crime itself. If we don't want our
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sixteen and seventeen year olds to be you know, taken
advantage of by man girls who are lost, confused, perhaps
there the fruit of human trafficking. We have to maintain
the punishment and there has to be a huge disincentive
for those how to prey on young girls.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, all right. The other thing somebody asked
me to ask you because none of us know what
this means. But what is judicial immunity? You know, see
these judges that were arrested. It's it's just classic that
the left is screaming that it was against protocol the
way they arrested them and putting them in handcuffs. They
should have allowed themselves to turn themselves in. And I'm thinking, yeah,
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shouldn't Juliani the same thing. He was no flight risk,
you know, any one of those guys that you guys
decided to shackle, put in handcaps and drag all over
the place. That wasn't right either. But there's a conversation
around some kind of judicial immunity. How how in either one.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Of these right? Well, judicial immunity is something that's used
very loosely, but that's actually narrower than people think. It's
not a it's not a get out of jail free
no matter what a judge does or says, by any means,
It's actually very narrow and it applies to decisions verdicts
that are carried out by the judge in their capacity
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as a judge. Well, enabling a criminal illegal alien to
go out the back door and uh and and order
ice to leave the courtroom and then order them to
go out the back door to escape federal law enforcement.
That has nothing to do with her job as a judge. No,
I would say, she's not immune, and she should be prosecuted.
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In fact, it's interesting the Wisconsin it's the bar association
they agree with her on that, they agree with that,
and that they've have removed they suspended her as a judge.
It was announced today and she's suspended as a judge
in Wisconsin, and there's going to be in a course
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of investigation, et cetera. But they've already moved on it
because I think they see on the face of it,
it's it's a clear breach of public trust and and
something that should you know, she should be removed from
from serving in the judiciary.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now, Brad. They're picking them up on on you know,
federal charges of you know, aiding and betting harboring a
an illegal alien criminal, which is a federal offense. And
this is this is perfectly legal and doable.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Correct, Oh, it's it's it's totally legal, legal and doable.
And here's the deal here is that these judges they're
not held to a lower standard. No, they're to be
held to a higher standard, not a lower standard. So
if individuals and any individual in the United States is
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aiding and a betting a criminal or specifically harboring an
illegal alien in their home in the contexts particularly and
they know that they're an illegal alien, and they're they're
doing so knowingly and willingly and abating, aiding and a
betting their UH status here criminally to continue the average person.
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And no, they can be tried and arrested and prosecuted. Well,
a judge should not be held to a lower standard.
They should be able to do it even a higher standard,
Derek Judge. They should be an exemplary of law abiding citizens.
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We are back, Joe Massini, your host. Always a pleasure
to have you with me. Eight five five real Joe
eight five five, Sembery three two five five six three.
You know, as the Democrats are running all around the
place today screaming about the Constitution. This constitution. Now we
got a constitutional crisis book where President Trump is doing.
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Do not even look at what their own party is doing.
Colorado now rejects the US Constitution, it's destroying parental rights
and just basically tell you everybody to go pound sand
Brad Dey disjoins me found the Pacific Justice Institute. Always
appreciate his time with me. Brad, thanks for being with
me here today.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's great to do on the program. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So. The Colorado Huse are representatives recently passed a bill
that will remove children from parents custody for uh say,
for behaviors such as misgendering, dead naming a transgender identified child.
The bill, in Dorsh's forced feeding children false ideas like
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a queer gender ideology of their parents, acquiesce to these
or else Come on, tell me they can't get away
with this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, the end, I don't think they will get away
with this, and that if there is a family, I
need to say, this is begging for litigation and const
social challenge. So if there is a family in any
state that where they are told like in California or Colorado, Oregon,
Washington State is its name, a few of the Blue
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states where they're told that you have to play along
with the child's gender confusion. You have to participate, you
have to encourage it effectively, and if you don't, then
you lose your child. The state will come and take
the child, start the injections, and then which will lead
to tax fair funded masochism where they cut off the
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body parts of the child so that they're sterilized for
the rest of our life. We had a case just
like this in Plaster County, California, and We got it halted,
we got the injections prevented. They're about to start the
injection process and then the surgical procedures of cutting off
body parts of this young girl. It's sick, it's masochistic.
It should be they should all be criminally indicted and
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put into behind bars for fifty years. But no, Governor
Gaven Newsom, this is his this is what he's pushing,
this is what he's supporting and with his blessing the
state of California. So we went and we challenged it.
We after two years of litigation, we finally prevailed. This
girl after being in a horrific foster home where horrific
(27:47):
things happened, she was finally given back to her parents.
The girl wanted to be with her parents the whole time,
the whole time, but the government said, no, no, we
know what's best for you. We're taking you from your
family and because we want to help you. Yeah, this
is what this is. Plaster County, one of the most
conservative counties in the state. Well, it's because it's not
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a county issue, it's a state issue. It's what Governor
Gavin Newsom is pushing to deprive parents and to take
children from parents full right to taking children and for
hideous child abuse pro child abuse reasons, which is what
this all really amounts to. So we prevailed. We have
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had other cases like this, we're having these, We have
another one in Montana, so these are all over the country,
and yet Colorado wants to institutionalize this. Well, if there's
any parents in Colorado who see their family in any
way at risk or in need of protection potentially, they
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should contact us immediately and we'll be happy to represent
them to challenge this. Still, should I go into effect
and be signed to law.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's crazy. It's just this crazy stuff makes my stomach turn.
I mean, that's sincerely. You know, when you look at
what's happening and you look at how they just throw
this stuff out there and right away this law enforcement
officials and others and they're jumping all over this. This
is just it's wrong on so many levels, and it's
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you know, it's a blatant attempt to take away the
god given right. You know, it's just amazing to me
that they haven't figured out this is a god given
right to raise your kids. And even if they don't
believe in God, they didn't birth these kids. I'm just
I'm floored by this. This is really one of those
things where I go to my daughter, leave the state,
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you know, get the heck, guy, what are you doing here?
Kind of thing. So I don't know anyhow, I had
another one here. I had really just ready to go
for you. Anyhow, the come on, Joe, I hate computers.
You know that they take forever to come up the
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Supreme Court. I don't know if I say you this one,
but this is the Supreme Court. People say, well, they
need to halt the discrimination against religious schools. So I
guess there's a few states. On Wednesday, the Supreme Court
is going to hear I guess that's tomorrow oral arguments
in Oklahoma state Wide Charter School Board versus Drummond, which
will determine whether a state can exclude religious schools from
(30:31):
charter school programs. Now, we went through this but after
school programs at religious schools correct years ago? Yeah, remember it.
And I think the Supreme Court ruled, no, you couldn't
withhold private public funds if these schools, you know, are
offering these programs. And I don't know if you see
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the same thing here and that you mean charter schools
are public schools in essence and don't constitutionally, where does
it say you can't give public funds to a religious
school and they'll give me the church and state thing.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah. So here's what's interesting. We have we have competing
case law and this is sort of right in the middle.
So on one side, you have the case law which
says public schools cannot act as religious schools. They can't proselytize,
you know, they can't you know, have kids praying in
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the context of a certain theology or belief. You know,
there's a you know, it's very you know established with
case law, you know, and and that's the way partially
they I think they overreacted by taking out the Bible,
taking out prayer, et cetera. But that's that's the case
law deal with public schools, you know, and saying you
cannot be religious school if you're a public school. However,
(31:52):
on the other side, the court is held in the
case out of Spinosa, case out of Montana, and then
the other one out of Me and they said, look,
if you're giving funding to fund students to be able
to go to a private school, a secular private school,
then you can't keep them from going to a religious
private school. You can't discriminate like that. And then here
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is independent, functions independent. It's not managed by the state.
It's managed by a private entity, a private educational institution
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and so it's in many ways it's already acting and
functioning like a private school. I think the core should
rule instead. I think they should lean towards religious freedom
in this regard, because the question should be is a
charter school does it have the effect of functioning as
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a government school with government controls and government expectations of controls,
or is it known and functioning practically and functioning independent
of the government. Well, yes, that's why we have charter
schools because traditional public schools are messed up. They're failing,
and our kids are failing. And that's why these charter
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schools are separate and functioning, separate and independent and being
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excluding Catholic charter schools.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's part of what you know to the city, he said,
Once they start dolling out money to these other school sources,
can't discriminating against the religious ones. I believe it's one
of the things that you and I talked about years ago,
right when it came to stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, so I think I think
in the end, once again, so long as they don't
discriminate on which religious schools they're going to give money too,
as long as they treat them all the same, secular
and religious charter schools, and they look at objective criteria
in terms of uh, you know there, do they have
a curriculum, do they have you know, the basics to
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measure success, and in terms of the basics of education,
et cetera, then you know, then they all need to
be treated the same. They need to be given the
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So far, this show has been all awfully slow, except
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we were coming over here tonight.
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I was look concerned about his driving. Minute he got
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And I realize now, aside from Clint Eastwood, I'm the biggest.
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Speaker 1 (41:28):
Always a pleasure to head you with me. Five five
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Be involved, be engaged, be part of the solution. I
really do appreciate the time you're spending with us here
on the year in the chat room, texting, tweeting, just conversing.
How's that Let's start off there, all right? Brad Dakas
joins me. He is the founder Pacific Justice Institute. Always
(41:49):
appreciate his time with Brad. Give us some insight scoop
on Pacific.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Justice Oh, you bet we have. Pacific Justice Institute are
a very unique organization defend religious freedom, parents' rights against
the government and government, schools and social workers, things of
human life, and we do it very uniquely. We have
thirty six offices coast to coast. We have over two
(42:14):
hundred and seventy cases and active litigation, let alone, thousands
and thousands we help every year without charge for the
council and assistance. And then where we're an organization is
but we don't just cherry pick a few high profile cases.
Our goal is make sure that everyone gets helped, that
no one has left on the side of the road ever.
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And that's our goal, and we do a really good job,
you know, to completing that goal all across the country,
all without charge.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yep. And I've even heard kudos from other attorneys about
your firm. So you need to know people. You need
to know that, and that's something that you know you
don't doesn't happen that often, you know. Yeah, we were
talking earlier about about judges that you know, hide these
these thugs. I'm gonna call them what they are, right,
(43:05):
you know, they're they're hiding these thugs and and what
have you? Had One judge in particular, he didn't just
hide them. He didn't just like, you know, let them
out the back door, but he actually showed them how
to destroy information on the phone while they were living
with him.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right yeah, yeah, and also also gave them access to
weapons reportedly.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah there were weapons, right, there were weapons the home
or something like that. And uh, I'm thinking to myself, okay, again,
where's the no ones above the law? People? Remember them
that were running all around the place, and now they're
trying to protect him.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, it's really it's really sad when we see this
and this blatant corruption. It's and what's coming out through
the DOGE is shocking, absolutely shocking. We see the money
that's been given out to liberal causes and leftist agendas
(44:03):
and individuals pocketing it. Stacy Abrams is a classic two
billion dollars to her little environment pro environmental climate, anti
climate change fund, which I understand was since she was
caught the moneys. I think someone told me that she
had to give it back. You shame and disgrace upon
her and her family.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
They don't have any shame. You're you're they have no shame.
They could care less because it's it's for the greater
good brand, don't you know that.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, and then they're in their pockets and their new
private jet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
That's the greater good there you go.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, yeah, so to help the environment, of course, yes,
so a private jet. But anyway, but yeah, it's it
is shocking when we see what's taking place and these
these terrible double standards. But the good news is that
we have a different sheriff in town, we have a
different Department of Justice, and they're going after them like
(45:00):
never before. And I think this is I think we're
going to be seeing a shock, if you will, a
shock in awe if you will, among all these activist
judges that are realizing, oh shoot, I thought I could
just do this. I somehow thought that I was somehow immune.
And they're not immune from prosecution when they do things
(45:20):
that are particularly outside the scope of their employment as
a judge. They're not immune, and they can be prosecuted.
And we know with this administration, the Trump administration, they
will be prosecuted as they should be.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, I get, I get, you know, biggest chick out
of some of these people. Don't do any checking to see
what's going on. You know. First of all, I want
to get back to our violence here with J. D. Pritzgraw.
I don't know if you heard, you know, he came
out and said that, you know, we need to have
chaos to the streets. We need to take our fight
to the street. We need to do it. And you're
going on on and on. I'm thinking if Trump even
(45:55):
approached any of that right, they would have him in
jail already, right.
Speaker 6 (46:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And and here's the guy. So I'm saying to you,
if if a fight breaks out somewhere, violence breaks out
in his state, I hope BONDI goes after him. You know,
you incited this. Did you hear your words? You didn't
say go peacefully protest. You you talked about violence and
chaos and mayhem in the streets.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, if if someone says something.
Speaker 10 (46:27):
That is.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
They is specific and they just say this is a
corrupt or you know, administration and we must oppose it,
that's not going to get them. And then people respond
in some way that's not going to get them arrested.
But if they say we need to storm the White House,
let's all storm the White House, or let's storm the
you know, and they all get revved up and they
all do it. Well, now they can be currently prosecuted.
(46:51):
Even if they went home and watch TV, watch the
football game, and eat popcorn, they can still be prosecuted
because they're the ones who incited specific violence that took
place that they knew or should have known was going
to take place based on what they did and said, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Think it's Uh, these people all just totally amazed me.
Like I think you've been up against Attorney General Rob
Banta here in California, where you know, the guy's just
out of control with anything that he believes or perceives
is illegal. He's going to file a suit against you.
And most people don't have the moody to fight it,
or they don't want to fight it. But God is
the Attorney general from California. But I mean, these guys
(47:31):
are working over time to file suits against Donald Trump
on a regular basis, whether it has to do with tariffs,
whether it has to do with keeping education money away
because they're not following the rules. You know, you said
it earlier and I saw something about it, but I
hadn't pulled it up yet, which is the This looks
like the Supreme Court at some point in time may
(47:53):
take this up, may take up the overreach, if you would,
of these justices. How true do you they? That is?
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, I think it's very true. And I think what
we're going to see is the Supreme Court is going
to be taken up. But I've talked about this in
the past when we were talking about different options and
then the Constitution, et cetera. But I said the most
likely and the most imminent resolve will be for the
Supreme Court to take it up. They will, and they're
gonna and I'm very confident. I think they will be
addressing it as early as well tomorrow during during.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yes right tomorrow, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, in oral arguments, So tomorrow, I think it will
be Uh. It will be an issue that I think that
they will be addressing and and they should address. I
think they I think they know they must address it.
They want to maintain order. When people perceive that there's
not order and there's not justice, then they take the
law into their own hands. And that's the last thing
(48:50):
the Supreme Court wants to precipitate. They need to make
it very clear we have a system of law and order.
One judge and little, one little federal district court cannot
control all the entire country and internationally and domestic in
terms of policy and procedure. They can't do that. So
I think the Supreme Court has got to make that
really clear. Otherwise American people are gonna be very frustrated
(49:12):
to say, we have a joke for a judicial system.
All that takes is one nut sitting on the leftist
nuts sitting on a bench to ruin the lives of
everyone else, to cause mayhem. So I do think we're
going to see that take place.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Well, I hope you're right. I'll start off there. And
you know, I'm looking at another gun ruling coming down
for California, where Scots I don't know, they really don't
seem to be on the side of the people when
it comes to the state deciding that they're not going
to allow and I'll just take one part of it.
In particular, they're not allow these gun shows to take
(49:47):
place at unstate property, some of it being fairgrounds and
raceways and that kind of stuff. Although I didn't know
that they owned those kinds of properties. But there. But
but other groups are allowed to be there. You know,
I don't. I don't understand why the gun groups would
not be allowed to be there. I help me stand.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, So there, there's they're they're claiming that they just
have to have a rational basis the lowest standard part
of scrutiny in order to exclude a group like a
gun show. But you're dealing with the constitutional right. And
I would argue, and I think this was what would
have argued before the Spreme Court if they took it up,
(50:27):
is that no, we're dealing with the second of memor
rights to bear arms because it says that they shall
not infringe. Government shall not infringe, and that include state
governments can infringe upon the right of individuals to bear arms. Well,
what does fringe mean? In fringe? Does that mean just
outright only only you know, ban it. No, it means
to limit in the to limit. And what are you
(50:49):
doing when you're saying, oh, no, gun shows can't exist
on public properties to fairgrounds. You're taking an overt action
to in some way limit or infringe upon the ability
for people to on their own to be able to
have access to a public gathering where they have guns
(51:10):
and things like that at a gun show. You know,
it's you know, gun shows have to comply with the regulations,
the safety.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Recruit strict laws. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, they're very strict. So this isn't about you know,
health or safety or I mean, people can still get
guns from arguably from other places. But this is the
government using their heavy hand to be hostile and prejudicial
towards those wishing to explore or exercise their right under
the Second Amendment by attending such a such a place.
Speaker 10 (51:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Just again, just amazing to me. And and scotis by
them not taking it up. They let the Nce Circuit
Court rule stand.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
But there's only binding on the Ninth Circuit, which is
still only binding on the Western States. It's not binding
on the rest of the country.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Isn't that funny? The Ninth Circuit can only bind something there,
and some lowly federal judge up in right Tullyville, Washington
does a nationwide you know, stay just.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Exactly that's the problem, and I think that's what the
street courts can run.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I hope, I hope to God. So okay, listen, God
bless for what you're doing. PJI dot org people, pji
dot org. Check out Brad team and hopefully you'll never
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