September 15, 2025 • 37 mins
(00:00:00) We read Reddit r/AITA Stories: Hidden College Letters and Canine Capers
(00:00:40) Intro
(00:02:34) AITA for refusing to ground my daughter?
(00:08:29) AITA for an escaped pet?
(00:20:33) AITA for going to another graphic designer after not getting mates rates from my friend?
(00:27:41) AITA for expecting friends to do things in their field for free?
On the 7th episode of The Joevelocity Show, Joe is joined once again by his mother Sharon, and we discuss some r/AITA stories from Reddit.
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• AITA for refusing to ground my daughter?
In the first story, a 34-year-old mother questions whether she's in the wrong for not punishing her daughter, Kylie, after she hid her boyfriend Wes's college acceptance letters. Sharon and Joe explore the ethical implications of Kylie's actions, discussing how she may have intercepted the mail and the serious consequences it might have for Wes's future. Sharon passionately argues that the mother should discipline Kylie to teach her about accountability and empathy, stressing that a heartfelt apology to Wes and his family is necessary. They also consider the potential financial impact if scholarship offers were involved, and Sharon suggests that Kylie might benefit from counseling to understand her motivations. The discussion highlights the importance of addressing wrongful behavior and ensuring young people learn from their mistakes.
• AITA for an escaped pet?
Next, we addresses the relatable challenges of pet ownership, highlighting a specific incident where a friend's dog escaped, leading to tensions between friends. We explore how escape-prone pets can cause stress, as well as the responsibilities of pet owners in securing their animals. Stories of past pet escapades are shared, including a massive neighbor's dog that was a handful to manage and the antics of adventurous cats and dogs testing boundaries. We touch on the joys and headaches of having indoor pets and the risks and surprises that come with allowing them outside. The discussion underscores the importance of vigilance, patience, and understanding when it comes to our furry companions, as well as the unexpected bonds and humorous situations they bring into our lives.
• AITA for going to another graphic designer after not getting mates rates from my friend?
Continuing on, we address the complexities of mixing friendships with business transactions. In this story a friend in graphic design doesn't offer a discounted rate, leading to feelings of betrayal when a friend seeks a better deal elsewhere. The discussion highlights the challenges of balancing friendship with professional obligations, emphasizing that businesses should be treated professionally even when friends are involved.
• AITA for expecting friends to do things in their field for free?
Finally, a tech professional often helps friends for free but is surprised when a lawyer friend charges for legal advice. This situation raises questions about the expectations of free services among friends and the value of professional work. Both stories highlight the need for clear boundaries and mutual respect in friendships when professional services are involved.
Subscribe to The Joevelocity Show in your favorite podcast app so you don’t miss an episode! For access to all of our websites, visit us at joevelocity.com
(00:00:40) Intro
(00:02:34) AITA for refusing to ground my daughter?
(00:08:29) AITA for an escaped pet?
(00:20:33) AITA for going to another graphic designer after not getting mates rates from my friend?
(00:27:41) AITA for expecting friends to do things in their field for free?
On the 7th episode of The Joevelocity Show, Joe is joined once again by his mother Sharon, and we discuss some r/AITA stories from Reddit.
Brought to you by:
Old Glory offers over 300,000 items for music, sports, entertainment, and pop culture
fans, featuring officially licensed merch from iconic bands and top sports teams.
Discover your perfect fan gear and save 15% with the exclusive discount code JOEVELOCITY at https://oldglory.com.
• AITA for refusing to ground my daughter?
In the first story, a 34-year-old mother questions whether she's in the wrong for not punishing her daughter, Kylie, after she hid her boyfriend Wes's college acceptance letters. Sharon and Joe explore the ethical implications of Kylie's actions, discussing how she may have intercepted the mail and the serious consequences it might have for Wes's future. Sharon passionately argues that the mother should discipline Kylie to teach her about accountability and empathy, stressing that a heartfelt apology to Wes and his family is necessary. They also consider the potential financial impact if scholarship offers were involved, and Sharon suggests that Kylie might benefit from counseling to understand her motivations. The discussion highlights the importance of addressing wrongful behavior and ensuring young people learn from their mistakes.
• AITA for an escaped pet?
Next, we addresses the relatable challenges of pet ownership, highlighting a specific incident where a friend's dog escaped, leading to tensions between friends. We explore how escape-prone pets can cause stress, as well as the responsibilities of pet owners in securing their animals. Stories of past pet escapades are shared, including a massive neighbor's dog that was a handful to manage and the antics of adventurous cats and dogs testing boundaries. We touch on the joys and headaches of having indoor pets and the risks and surprises that come with allowing them outside. The discussion underscores the importance of vigilance, patience, and understanding when it comes to our furry companions, as well as the unexpected bonds and humorous situations they bring into our lives.
• AITA for going to another graphic designer after not getting mates rates from my friend?
Continuing on, we address the complexities of mixing friendships with business transactions. In this story a friend in graphic design doesn't offer a discounted rate, leading to feelings of betrayal when a friend seeks a better deal elsewhere. The discussion highlights the challenges of balancing friendship with professional obligations, emphasizing that businesses should be treated professionally even when friends are involved.
• AITA for expecting friends to do things in their field for free?
Finally, a tech professional often helps friends for free but is surprised when a lawyer friend charges for legal advice. This situation raises questions about the expectations of free services among friends and the value of professional work. Both stories highlight the need for clear boundaries and mutual respect in friendships when professional services are involved.
Subscribe to The Joevelocity Show in your favorite podcast app so you don’t miss an episode! For access to all of our websites, visit us at joevelocity.com
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hey, and welcome again to the Joe Vlasi Show. I'm
here once again with my mom.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi, bye, honey, by honey, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have a name, I know, Sharon.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That feels so weird for me to say your name
because I don't call you by your name.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you, Sharon.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It almost sounds like I'm mad at you, you know,
I know, like whenever you were mad at me, it'd
always be like my first Joseph Andrew, you know. Yeah,
yeah right. I think my proper name is just Joe.
So anyways, Yeah, you did a really good job on
(01:24):
the last show. I must say. Yeah, I'm a professional
right now. You're happily retired professional now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
At this point there true, very true.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So during your days in the hot tub.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yea, yeah, I start out that way sometimes right there.
Not this summer so much, but maybe come fall here.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, it's well, the first part of our summer here
was really rainy and then it was just now it's
just dry and col I don't know, you know, I
guess it's okay for you guys from the hot tub, yes,
because I got some people even going there during the winter.
Do you ever go in there and during the winter?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh yeah, so you usually are New Year's Eve routine.
Oh okay, go to the hot tub.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's why I never been invited over from New Year's Eve.
But really I should have better things to do in
New Year's Eve than you know, I have to come
over to my parents' house, you know. But absolutely anyways,
so let me go ahead here, and I guess we
will get this show started. So let's go ahead here
and get into the first story. I'm going to read
(02:38):
here and this one here because you said last time
that you're okay with hearing the asshole word, we're gonna
use am I the asshole? Anyways? Am I the asshole
for refusing the ground my daughter. I'm a thirty four
year old mother with a seventeen year old daughter, Kylie,
who's friends with a boy named Wes of the same age. Recently,
(03:01):
Wes received several college acceptance letters in the mail, but
they never showed up. After some time, Wes was supposed
to throw as kylie as a surprise birthday party, but
while searching for hiding spots, he found his letters in
Kyllie's closet. Callie admitted to hiding the letters because she
didn't want him to leave town for college. Wess His's
(03:22):
family was angry with Kylie and they still believed that
she deliberately hid Wes's college acceptance letters. When my husband, mother,
and West found out, they all agreed I should punish Kylie,
even though I did not do so. However, I feel
that punishing Kylie now will simply make the situation worse,
and that there are needs to be more understanding on
Wes's family parts. So am I the asshole for not
(03:45):
disciplining my daughter despite knowing that she was in the wrong.
I understand that Kyllie's behavior was not acceptable, but I
am also seeing this from her perspective, and I believe
that his situation needs to be handled more carefully. My god, Well,
first off, I don't know how she got his letters
because I don't think they live together.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Obviously, well they might be neighbors, but you know, I
don't know, right his mail. Basically it had to be
she got his mail, which is a federal offense, right yeah,
and yes, yes, yes, yes, this mother is a total
(04:28):
a whole And you know this makes me so angry
because like she wants to look at her she understands
from Kylie's perspective. Seriously, it's it's not yes, how about
you know wes I mean she you know, I mean,
(04:48):
if nothing else, she should make Kylie go over and
give this family a wholehearted apology and make sure it's
see her not just something she's doing to appease her mother.
But this girl sounds very, very entitled. And yes, I
(05:09):
have a lot of problems with this. I think this
girl should, I mean, she should face some consequences and
that if the family decided to hold her accountable for anything,
I would not blame them at all.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Commenters agree there, yeah, because it's kind of like you know,
they said, you want to punish her because it will
make the situation worse, Like how will it make it worse?
You know already you know, it's going to be like
a case where he may not be able to get
to the school's choice because the fact that you know,
she hid these letters from him. Yeah, and accepting the
(05:44):
consequences to your actions doesn't make it any worse. It's
raising a good human being, you know, right. He even
needs to grovel and apologize, you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Know, I mean some of these may have come with
scholarships attached. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know,
and that's really at the cost of college these you know,
these days, it's every little sent count, So it's it's terrible.
I mean, this girl needs counseling, is what she needs, Like,
you know, why did she do this? And you know
(06:15):
what is wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, And another commenter said, you better go to bedtime.
I think in the heavens that they aren't going to
press legal charges, and I kind of, you know, said
something about him not maybe getting the college. Yeah, it
doesn't get into his favorite college because of the ship
that they pulled. I'm pretty sure they're going to file
charges or at least hope. So Wes is going to
(06:36):
keep his distance from Opie's family, maybe even in the
friendship altogether. If he's pissed enough. I don't blame him,
you know, because I would be like in a situation
where it's kind of like, you know how shurecited that
you're just trying to keep me here behind these letters there.
You know, you're screwing with my future and I don't
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And the fact that the mother sees sees it more
from her daughter's perspective than the boy's perspective. You know,
it just goes to show that she, you know, she
herself is probably selfish and you know, non apologetic for
(07:17):
things that she has done in the past herself.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, it just seems like, you know, for it's
kind of like, oh, you know, she's my special baby.
She can do no wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
She's probably a cheerleader and homecoming queen. Yeah, or maybe
she isn't. And this is the only friend she has,
and this is how.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
She treats him. Yeah, I mean I understand that she
wants to keep him there, but that's a very short
sighted you know, yes thought there, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Go back to the one where selfish God wants to last.
Last time we did this and the guy, you know,
it's fallen all over himself to do everything he could
for his wife and girlfriend. Oh that's the girl, would
never do this for this boy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
What that's slightly different because I think, you know, his
heart was true, you know that basically he.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Was looking for me, you know, but yes, hers definitely is. Yeah,
not there.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This is just kind of like, you know, I want
to keep him here no matter what there, so I'm
going to you know, hide this from him there so
he can't go to the college he wants to go to,
and he'll stick around for me, you know bullshit, you know, yes,
as far as I'm concerned. But anyways, let's go on
here and move on to the second story. I think
this is slightly better. I think anything will be better
(08:33):
than people, you know, holding things from other people there.
But I don't know, I know i'm reading this here.
I'm not sure if that's the case. And by the
asshole for an escape pet. Earlier this evening, I stopped
by my best buddy's house to drop off some food
for him and this disabled mum, as well some perfectly
good clothes that no longer fit me. I show him
(08:53):
the stuff, he shows me the progress on his project vehicle.
We say goodbyes and I leave minutes later, he calls
me up, absolutely beside myself, screaming at the top of
his lugs about how I need to fucking pay attention
and be more aware of my surroundings because somehow his
dog slipped out the front door when I was getting
my stuff from the vehicle. I swore to him that
(09:14):
I never saw his dog in the house and that
the only time I saw her was in the backyard.
He then got anger, telling me that not only do
I never pay any attention to anything beyond what's right
in front of me, but now I won't even accept
the responsibility. When I again told him that I never
saw the dog in the house, he called me an
asshole and doesn't pay attention and told me to never
(09:35):
talk to him again. He then hung up the phone
in my face. I've been to his house countless times
over the years, and I always made sure that the
door was closed, if not fully shut, because he's always
had dogs. I'm even the one who blocked the doggy
door to keep her from going outside while he was
backing his vehicle in. The Only thing that could have
have happened was that her nosing or pawing the door
(09:58):
open when I was getting stuff out of my vehicle. Normally,
she is extremely well trained, never leaves his driveway or
the front door threshold. Don't know why she booked at
this time. When he didn't answer his phone, immediately texted
him and told him I was coming back to help
him look for her. He texted me back saying not
to bother. He found her safe on the next block.
(10:18):
He then said he didn't feel like talking. I said, okay,
but swore on my late parents that I saw her
in the backyard and never saw her in the house,
and that she must have nosed the door open or something.
We haven't spoken since when I told my other friend
what happened. He said that my other friend was crazy
and that it was his responsibility to watch his dog,
(10:40):
not mine. He says that animals sometimes get out, and
even his own dog escaped several times when he had
come to the over and he certainly didn't verbally attack
his guests and blame them for it. When he feels
like talking again, I know he's going to roast me
again over it. I'm not sure what to say. And
by the asshole here, I would say, not at all,
(11:01):
not at all. It's not his responsibility to make sure that,
you know, his friend's dog doesn't go the house. It's
his friend's responsibility.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Right, I mean, you know, I mean he's dropping off
food for his you know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Sounds like he's a better friend than what this other
guy was to him. So I just say goodbye, you know, seriously,
I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Go, dog, go.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Go over and open the door. I'm here, goodbye, but
leaving the dog out. But no, it's you know, you
just he has to do what's best for him. And
if people have no right to treat you that way,
you know, no matter, no matter how good of a
friend do you think they are.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It just sounds like he was pissed over the fact
that the dog got out, you know, and he's taking
out on everybody else except for himself.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Right, no responsibility again, So I don't know these people.
These people are problems, right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I would say the commenters agree with all that there,
because hey, thank.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
If I ever saw him again, I'd just cross the
street and you keep on going.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Do's your dog?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
His dog would probably run to him, and you know,
not the owner, not his buddy, all.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right, exactly. Anyways, going to the comments here, not the
asshole some dogs are escape artists. Oh yeah, so if
your caring friend dropping off clothes and food, and your friend,
although worried at the time, should not have unleashed his
anger on you because his dog was starting enough to
get out. Thank goodness she was found safe. But there's
nothing more than you can say after the fact except
(12:48):
that you know. So, I mean like he offered the search,
you know, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Offer to help him look and everything else. So I
think that's a good friend, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Even if he had by accident let the dog out,
he offered to come back and help him look. So
either way, he's not you know, the assholes. He's still
a good friend because he offered to, you know, help
him find him find the dog.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right yeah. Another person said, not the assholes behavior as shit,
you were looking dropping off food for him. He knows
his dog is trying to escape. That's on him to
make sure that she is secure, not leave with the
you who's bringing stuff in for him. He's an adult
having a tantrum like a child. He needs to grow
up and not get over himself. It takes some responsibility
for his pets and actions. He doesn't even know how
(13:38):
she got out yet is blaming you? Perhaps it's harsh,
but I cannot stand people who act like that. So
let me ask you a question here at your current house,
have any of your pets that you've had in the
past has gotten now well?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I even remember it was more like my neighbor's dog
even got out of the house. And this was a
big the dog got it. I kind of was they
called They called him bear, So that is a perfect
description of him, because he was big, and he was black,
and he was like he must have weighed two hundred pounds.
(14:16):
I don't know they were. They were older at the time.
And so their dog got out and he ran across
the street. So I was like, oh no, I ran
over across the street to get their dog, and he
drugged me back to their house across the street. So
(14:38):
heaven helped me. If if there would have been a
car coming, I couldn't be here today to tell the story.
But I mean it was a big dog. But yeah,
I mean, you know, and there's no one to blame.
They are those dog cats too. You can see cats
opening doors and everything.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Which one time, actually whenever I with my ex our
cat a time, his name was Daniel big has big
ming was yeah, friendly as all hell and everything there.
But one time I opened the back kitchen door and
he ran out into our backyard and think god, it
was fenced, but he started running out. But the problem
(15:19):
was is that he was a big cat, and honestly,
it's probaby little overweight, so it was a little slow.
He started running and it was kind of like, you know,
you may all these noise when we run. He started
running towards my my ex and literally though I grabbed
them and screwed them up. I was like, no, you
don't put him back in. But it's like never indoor cat.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah. You know, my my our little dog Lollie, she
used to get was funny. She yeah, we'd have we'd
have her like, you know, tied on a lead in
the backyard. Yeah, she chewed through an eylon lead. Oh wow,
my my neighbors said, wasn't that dog. Yeah, normally she
(16:09):
was good. That was when she was a puppy, but
then she she learned to stay in her yard.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now, like if she ever got off her leader or not,
would she actually.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Stay off the road, Oh no, because she was We
walked her in a field across the street and she uh,
we were busy working in the yard, and I guess
she had to go to the bathroom, so she just
took herself across the road. Was going over there to
(16:38):
do Yeah, I know where I have to go and
uh yeah. But then you know, when we when we
would see that she was there, we'd be more panicked
and didn't want to chase her or you know, so
but we'd call her name and then she she generally
wouldn't run from us, she would you know, come to us.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So she was generally well behaved then at that point.
So she was rhythm even with or without you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Man there. I mean you have to watch there's just
like babies, you have to watch them all the time
because they're always into.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Something, right, Yeah, I mean it's actually I was actually
kind of surprised because I've had friends who then they
have what are that were initially indoor cats and let
them outside in the room and then they come back
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it was I would be afraid
to do that if I like, well enough, yeah, I
can see like if you have a balcony or something,
to let them out on the balcony, but just try
to keep them you know, and closed there somehow or something.
I would never let them be out overnight. That would
(17:52):
be too many things and can get them.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right that and also too, I'm kind of afraid of
like what they would be bringing back. You know that
mouse a mole.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Had. I had an outdoor cat that used to bring
me treats like that all the time. Your sister and
I would be up on the kitchen table trying to
shoot the out Yes, trying to shoot the cat back out.
Thank you, thank you for the treat, but no, thank
you right but yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Anyways, guess what time it is?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
What time is there time?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
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And welcome back to the Joe Last Show. So once again,
my mom is with me. And when we go ahead
here and read the more stories. So how you liking
it there?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's good. I'm glad you like it. So, yeah, because
that's always funny because every is the beginning there. Whenever
they record an episode, they're kind of like, I'm nervous,
and then after that it's kind of like, oh, this
was fun, I want to do this again.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I wasn't nervous. I wasn't nervous at all. It's just
like more anxious just to get started from doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I actually just want to do it, and now that
I've done it. Cool. Anyways, we're your ahead here, you
get on with the next story. So I think this
kind of resonates with us here because we're both graphic designers.
You know, you definitely by schooling me just kind of
like just buy you know, you're rubbing off on me, you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Know, around around. I drug you down to the school
and everything with me.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So right whenever I was a small kid, yeah, and
you were going to school at the time. I remember
you dragging me down there. So but it's also something
I've always been interested in as well. And yeah, so anyways,
here am I the assho for going to another graphic
designer after not getting Mates rates from my friend. So
I helped co found a charity and we were looking
(21:17):
for a graphic designer for a logo. All this coming
out of my pockets, so there's more fundraising money going
to where it should. My friend is a graphic designer
and she's pretty good. I reached out there her asking
how much it would cost to get a logo, and
she quoted me a price. I asked her if there
was a discount for Mates or for the fact that
it was for charity. She said no, sorry, we charged
(21:40):
me normal rates. I totally no problem. I'd have a
think about it and went in shop to ry and
found a designer who I liked and quoted me around
eighty percent of what my friend quoted me, and I
really liked her work that was more in the budget
I was looking for. And she threw in a few
extra social networking logos as well because she really liked
our clos We spoke and I really clicked with her,
(22:03):
and she was also really good with deadlines and communications, etc.
As a result, I've been plugging her stuff everywhere because
people really liked their logo and thought it was clever.
I've also recommended her to a few friends of mine
and co workers with side businesses who are currently the
websites for the stores due to the COVID shutdowns, who
have hired her. I've also been plugging her business on
(22:24):
social media and also gave another shout out to the
graphic designer for another nice logo. My friend called me
about something else and as we were chatting, she told
me she was upset with me for going with the
other designer. I told her it was just about price.
She charged lots my friend just asked me why didn't
take the quote back to her and asked her to
match the price. I told her I didn't want to
(22:45):
be that friend that haggled too much after I asked
for MATS rates and gotten shot down. She said that
in this climate, she had taken the job if I
was serious about being cheap, especially since I was plugging
the graphic designer instead of her. Now that she's had
other jobs due to my passing on her contact info
but not my friends, I explained to my friend that
I've had a really good customer service experience with her,
(23:07):
so it's scriptable recommending her. My friend said it was
still upsetting that would promote something else instead of her
and pass on jobs. I knew my friend was struggling
for work in his climate. Am I the asshole here?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Not at all?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know. It was kind of you know, her friend,
you know, shopped around fund a better rate, and the
person did a good job.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And he wasn't asking her to do it for nothing, right,
you know, And he wasn't asking he you know, is
coming out of his own pocket and it was a
charity thing, so I think he I think he was
better off, you know, doing what he did. You know,
it was it was cheaper in the long run, and
he got the work on time, and that would be
something I would be afraid of, you know, with his
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original friend, because you know, maybe she wouldn't take it
serious enough and you know, you know, wouldn't be meeting
his deadlines and things like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That, right because doing it for friends and doing it
for a reduced price and everything there was kind.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Of like, yeah, she'll get to it when she has
time to get to it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It wouldn't be a priority.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, no, absolutely not so and then you know she
threw in all these extra perks and things for him too,
So yeah, I mean, he absolutely did the right thing,
and he probably made a new friend in the long
run too. And exactly, you know, you keep going back
to these people for work and work and work, and
you know you always get the extra little perks or
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a discount or you know, some kind of freebie or
something just for being that loyal customer, right exactly, and
they deserve to have the promos and things you know,
sent their way for all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yep, it was kind of like you scratch my back,
I'll scratch ours. And it sounds like, you know, it's
a you know, pretty happy relationship between the two, you know,
doing great work there, promoting your business. You know, something's
working on pretty well. And their friend, I think is
not just you know, sired.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
On the fact that you know, yeah, I mean trying,
you know, trying to turn it around on him. Well,
if I knew you were serious, well, she asked her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
How serious there? When I asked you her?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah really, I mean, yeah, well, you know, I'm working
for this company. What do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But yeah, yeah, good for him sticking to his guns.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Calmenters completely agree with us there, not the asshole. She
can have it both ways. That she wants to treat
you like a normal non friend client, which is fair
and understandable. She should be expected to be treated as
a normal business, which I think happenterary. It's kind of like,
yeah'm going to look around, you know, right. Another person said,
not the asshole. You gave her the opportunity, and she
was not going to give you this kind of price
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unless shown someone else would. The other graft designer, however,
went above and beyond, originally offering a lower sum for
presumably more work easy not the asshole, and then finally here,
this is one of the many reasons that friends and
businesses often should not mix. You asked if she could
do better on price, you said, no, you took her
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business and someone that could. She has no right to
be mad at you. It's just business, true. Yeah, I
think it's really in this case r yeah, where she
was just kind of like, you know, well.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, she ended up saying yeah, you know, it burned her.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And you know, I mean if this did happen, happened
during COVID or right after COVID and stuff, everybody was
you know, willing and able to get back to work
and you know, do what they could just to keep
their business afloat or whatever. For her, just to expect
him to take the price at any at any costs,
you know that. You know, she should have been she
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should have been more flexible with him.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And if I put myself in that situation there, let's
say I was the person doing the garved design work there.
Oh yeah, I give my friend a better rate than
I would a normal person, I think anybody you know, yeah,
with a normal sense of like, you know, hey, you're
my friend. You know I'm going to give you a deal.
You know would give you.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I mean that goes far too and I think you
know what we'll be talking about probably next but yeah,
it's like, you know, that goes so far. I mean,
she has to make a living, we understand that, but
there are always, you know, things in the long run
she probably could have done and for him that would
have helped her and would have helped him.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right. Anyways, believe it or not, we're on to the
last story of the show.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The mimin of conclusion that went fast.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I know. Yeah, this one's because I said to you
in the beginning. Yeah, it was kind of like this
show looks.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Longer, No, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Anyways, the last story is and by the asshole for
expecting friends to do things in their field for free.
I deal with this a lot. I work in it
graphical design, and people ask me for tech help constantly,
like everyone's go to guy if their computer's broken, they
need to upgrade, their internet isn't working, you name it.
I always help because I tend to try to live
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by the standard that if I have the ability to
help someone and choose not to, then I'm morally in
the wrong. Well, the other day I needed some legal advice.
So reached out to a buddy of mine, how I've
helped with computer stuff by the way, if you'd be
willing to give me essentially a consultation. He directed me
to his website where I am hit with a one
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hour consultation. It's three hundred dollars, so I was like, hey,
I really can't afford these kind of loger fees. Was
kind of hoping you can just help me as a friend. Well,
he laughed and got a little rude with me and
saying the old don't ask people to do what they
do for a living for free. But I never really
understood that mindset because I help people all the time
for free and would feel bad for accepting payment for
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my friends and they need help. I was kind of
taken aback and responded to that I never charged you
for any of the help I gave him within my profession.
But he said that's different because this is just computer stuff,
which felt like I'm being looked down on. When he
kind of got into it a little bit where I said, yeah,
but you take your stuff to me because you think
taking it to the store as a ripoff. My rate
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is actually a lot higher than a place like best buy.
We really didn't make up and probably aren't talking that
much anymore, so am I the asshole? But there's also
an edit in here where basically he clarifies what kind
of work that he's done for him in the past.
He said, he designed the logo, I helped create a
web page and informs the mission ticketing system, have helped
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repair broken computers, build a gaming computer for free labor,
set up a small office home network, and designs some
flyers for his wife's cleaning service. Other than that, it's
just been general troubleshooting advice like you would expect. Oh
my god, you know he think his friend what I
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think his friend definitely was the asshole for being like,
go to our website a stream dollars an hour?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, I mean, and what do I tell you all
the time to not give your work away for free?
I mean, I could see doing a little bit of
this stuff that when you're getting into creating web pages
and doing design like that, and some of the other
you know, I mean, trouble shooting advice or something like that.
(30:14):
That's nothing, that's just you know, conversation. But you know,
designing flyers for his wife and no, I mean, he
this neighbor really took advantage of him too far.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I have a friend who I help up with
computer stuff where he wants in a great while, and
once I'm done, it's like, hey, how much do I
owe you? And it's always kind of weird for me
to ask him, you know, for money. So I'm just like,
whatever you feel, you know, yeah, you know, so I
think we kind of settle upon like that twenty dollars
per hour thing there.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well that's nice. I mean, you know, that's nice, and
it's generous of him to you know, recognize that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I think it cost him a lot more if you
could go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Else, you know, well, if you had, you know, I mean,
this guy is like he's creating these flyers and things,
and I mean it's his time. His time is worth
a lot more than what you know, I mean, you know,
not three hundred dollars an hour, but you know, but
I doubt that lawyer is worth that much either.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But in the too, it's kind of like, you know,
if they're friends, you know, you're thinking of you, like,
you know, I can give you some suggestions kind of thing,
you know, basically.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yes, yes, you know, or leading in the right direction,
like who should I talk to about this? Conversation? You know,
not conversation necessary.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I'd be like, there'll be three hundred dollars please before
I talk to you about this.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You're right, right, I don't even open my mouth for
less than two right. But I'm just wondering, what is
the real point of this story, Joe? And why why
did you save it? Why did you save it for last?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You don't do that to me there, But I mean
I have heard you're.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Tired of me asking you to help me, Like no, no, no, no,
you're my mom telling you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Guys don't ask for help very often either, and usually
when you do ask for help, it's usually a complicated
situation that sometimes I don't even know the answer, to
be honest with you, there, you're.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Being generous right now, because I can remember the times
you're like, did you read the manual?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, I also find that if people tried to help
themselves first before I help them there, you know, because
it's kind of like, you know, if you're coming from
a complete area of ignorance, it's kind of like it's like, well,
I can't get online. It's like this in the days
of dollop. Well, did you say if you have a
dowal tone, did you see you know, whenever you try,
(32:44):
you know, calling up you know, America online or something there,
that it's actually dowling, you know, or you know, a
bunch of other things are basically that would basically be
kind of like, so I know that you've tried certain
things first, and I also know where we're at and
the whole entire scheme of things there, so I know
where the starting point and it's basically but also too
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Maybe it used to be that way, but anymore I'm
just too lazy to figure it out, so I call
you first.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I think it's a lot more you know, normal
nowadays there, because it's kind of like it one time
not everybody had cell phones, but now you you know,
your your husband have phones, I have a phone there,
and you guys have computers and we're a lot more
connected online now. It's also easier. Yes, So I think
(33:32):
for you guys, there's just kind of like, you know,
plus being in a communications background that you both of
you guys are out there, it's kind of like there's
certain things you guys know how to do.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know, Yes, but there's certain things we're so over
learning the new technologies and everything that goes along with it.
So we're like, it is, it's hard to keep up
with it all. So can we ask, well, I do
you do it for dinner?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, it's like me going to you guys. It's kind
of like, you know, it's like, you know, one hundred
dollars an hour, which is what one of the commenters
said there. It's kind of like I'd use the same
line if he ever comes to you with a computer problem.
Again to our minimum, this is your dad is backed up,
but we make no guarantees. Yeah, so yeah. And then
also to this guy treats you more like his lackey
(34:23):
than an actual friend. He expected to do all this
which would cost a lot for free, yet didn't think
he deserved the same treatment when it comes to his service.
Block that dude and cut off any supporting tech work
regarding his family business, you know. And also to another person,
said send him an invoice for all the IT work
that you've done. Yeah, because the sounds that he didn't
value your work basically, right.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That's you see, that's what happens like even with a
lot of graphic designers and artists in general and stuff
like that that you know, they they think, well, you
could just whip this up in a couple of minutes.
You know, it's not gonna you know, and they don't know,
they don't know the technology that it takes too.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And I'll pay you an exposure design business. Yes, think
of all the exposure you'll get.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, unfortunately, right right, your work will be out there. Yeah,
that's the first thing people want to look at. Who
did this, Who designed this? That's all, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But probably one of my biggest regrets there is is
that I did a bar decided they wanted a new logo,
so I was like, yeah, I'll do it for you there,
and you know, I got paid my normal rate for
doing it there, not anything extra for it there, and
theyson sold the business, you know, and they're still using
this logo. I see this logo everywhere almost every single day,
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and it's just kind of like.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's where you should copyright your work or you know, I.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Should have charged for that logo, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, no, you should have held on to the you know,
the rights to it or something, and if they wanted it,
they'd have to buy it off of you too.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And then also talking about the fact that's a nice
logo and it has the city of Pittsburgh in it there,
and you know, the fact that commented about that and
everything there. It's just kind of like, you know, it's nice,
you know, being recognized for doing a good job and
everything there, but also on the other hand there too,
it's kind of like, you know, I really did not
make out at all on the deal.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know, noll I used to tell you, don't give
yourself away. You did, you got burned quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, but it's always like I'm working on a portfolio,
but at some point in time it's be like at
to stop working on that portfolio and actually start doing stuff,
you know.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yes, start charging for stuff, right exactly. Yeah, you're you're
very good at what you do, I mean everything, and
that's just not a mother talking. You are very good
at the graphic design stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We thank you. And someday I learned how to speak too.
So anyways, believe it or not, we come up to
the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well again, so yeah, that one fast.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I know, yeah, this always goes so faster. But anyways,
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hey, and welcome again to the Joe Vlasi Show. I'm
here once again with my mom.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hi, bye, honey, by honey, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have a name, I know, Sharon.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That feels so weird for me to say your name
because I don't call you by your name.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you, Sharon.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It almost sounds like I'm mad at you, you know,
I know, like whenever you were mad at me, it'd
always be like my first Joseph Andrew, you know. Yeah,
yeah right. I think my proper name is just Joe.
So anyways, Yeah, you did a really good job on
(01:24):
the last show. I must say. Yeah, I'm a professional
right now. You're happily retired professional now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
At this point there true, very true.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So during your days in the hot tub.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yea, yeah, I start out that way sometimes right there.
Not this summer so much, but maybe come fall here.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, it's well, the first part of our summer here
was really rainy and then it was just now it's
just dry and col I don't know, you know, I
guess it's okay for you guys from the hot tub, yes,
because I got some people even going there during the winter.
Do you ever go in there and during the winter?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh yeah, so you usually are New Year's Eve routine.
Oh okay, go to the hot tub.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's why I never been invited over from New Year's Eve.
But really I should have better things to do in
New Year's Eve than you know, I have to come
over to my parents' house, you know. But absolutely anyways,
so let me go ahead here, and I guess we
will get this show started. So let's go ahead here
and get into the first story. I'm going to read
(02:38):
here and this one here because you said last time
that you're okay with hearing the asshole word, we're gonna
use am I the asshole? Anyways? Am I the asshole
for refusing the ground my daughter. I'm a thirty four
year old mother with a seventeen year old daughter, Kylie,
who's friends with a boy named Wes of the same age. Recently,
(03:01):
Wes received several college acceptance letters in the mail, but
they never showed up. After some time, Wes was supposed
to throw as kylie as a surprise birthday party, but
while searching for hiding spots, he found his letters in
Kyllie's closet. Callie admitted to hiding the letters because she
didn't want him to leave town for college. Wess His's
(03:22):
family was angry with Kylie and they still believed that
she deliberately hid Wes's college acceptance letters. When my husband, mother,
and West found out, they all agreed I should punish Kylie,
even though I did not do so. However, I feel
that punishing Kylie now will simply make the situation worse,
and that there are needs to be more understanding on
Wes's family parts. So am I the asshole for not
(03:45):
disciplining my daughter despite knowing that she was in the wrong.
I understand that Kyllie's behavior was not acceptable, but I
am also seeing this from her perspective, and I believe
that his situation needs to be handled more carefully. My god, Well,
first off, I don't know how she got his letters
because I don't think they live together.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Obviously, well they might be neighbors, but you know, I
don't know, right his mail. Basically it had to be
she got his mail, which is a federal offense, right yeah,
and yes, yes, yes, yes, this mother is a total
(04:28):
a whole And you know this makes me so angry
because like she wants to look at her she understands
from Kylie's perspective. Seriously, it's it's not yes, how about
you know wes I mean she you know, I mean,
(04:48):
if nothing else, she should make Kylie go over and
give this family a wholehearted apology and make sure it's
see her not just something she's doing to appease her mother.
But this girl sounds very, very entitled. And yes, I
(05:09):
have a lot of problems with this. I think this
girl should, I mean, she should face some consequences and
that if the family decided to hold her accountable for anything,
I would not blame them at all.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Commenters agree there, yeah, because it's kind of like you know,
they said, you want to punish her because it will
make the situation worse, Like how will it make it worse?
You know already you know, it's going to be like
a case where he may not be able to get
to the school's choice because the fact that you know,
she hid these letters from him. Yeah, and accepting the
(05:44):
consequences to your actions doesn't make it any worse. It's
raising a good human being, you know, right. He even
needs to grovel and apologize, you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Know, I mean some of these may have come with
scholarships attached. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know,
and that's really at the cost of college these you know,
these days, it's every little sent count, So it's it's terrible.
I mean, this girl needs counseling, is what she needs, Like,
you know, why did she do this? And you know
(06:15):
what is wrong with her?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, And another commenter said, you better go to bedtime.
I think in the heavens that they aren't going to
press legal charges, and I kind of, you know, said
something about him not maybe getting the college. Yeah, it
doesn't get into his favorite college because of the ship
that they pulled. I'm pretty sure they're going to file
charges or at least hope. So Wes is going to
(06:36):
keep his distance from Opie's family, maybe even in the
friendship altogether. If he's pissed enough. I don't blame him,
you know, because I would be like in a situation
where it's kind of like, you know how shurecited that
you're just trying to keep me here behind these letters there.
You know, you're screwing with my future and I don't
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And the fact that the mother sees sees it more
from her daughter's perspective than the boy's perspective. You know,
it just goes to show that she, you know, she
herself is probably selfish and you know, non apologetic for
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things that she has done in the past herself.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
You know, it just seems like, you know, for it's
kind of like, oh, you know, she's my special baby.
She can do no wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
She's probably a cheerleader and homecoming queen. Yeah, or maybe
she isn't. And this is the only friend she has,
and this is how.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
She treats him. Yeah, I mean I understand that she
wants to keep him there, but that's a very short
sighted you know, yes thought there, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Go back to the one where selfish God wants to last.
Last time we did this and the guy, you know,
it's fallen all over himself to do everything he could
for his wife and girlfriend. Oh that's the girl, would
never do this for this boy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
What that's slightly different because I think, you know, his
heart was true, you know that basically he.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Was looking for me, you know, but yes, hers definitely is. Yeah,
not there.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This is just kind of like, you know, I want
to keep him here no matter what there, so I'm
going to you know, hide this from him there so
he can't go to the college he wants to go to,
and he'll stick around for me, you know bullshit, you know, yes,
as far as I'm concerned. But anyways, let's go on
here and move on to the second story. I think
this is slightly better. I think anything will be better
(08:33):
than people, you know, holding things from other people there.
But I don't know, I know i'm reading this here.
I'm not sure if that's the case. And by the
asshole for an escape pet. Earlier this evening, I stopped
by my best buddy's house to drop off some food
for him and this disabled mum, as well some perfectly
good clothes that no longer fit me. I show him
(08:53):
the stuff, he shows me the progress on his project vehicle.
We say goodbyes and I leave minutes later, he calls
me up, absolutely beside myself, screaming at the top of
his lugs about how I need to fucking pay attention
and be more aware of my surroundings because somehow his
dog slipped out the front door when I was getting
my stuff from the vehicle. I swore to him that
(09:14):
I never saw his dog in the house and that
the only time I saw her was in the backyard.
He then got anger, telling me that not only do
I never pay any attention to anything beyond what's right
in front of me, but now I won't even accept
the responsibility. When I again told him that I never
saw the dog in the house, he called me an
asshole and doesn't pay attention and told me to never
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talk to him again. He then hung up the phone
in my face. I've been to his house countless times
over the years, and I always made sure that the
door was closed, if not fully shut, because he's always
had dogs. I'm even the one who blocked the doggy
door to keep her from going outside while he was
backing his vehicle in. The Only thing that could have
have happened was that her nosing or pawing the door
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open when I was getting stuff out of my vehicle. Normally,
she is extremely well trained, never leaves his driveway or
the front door threshold. Don't know why she booked at
this time. When he didn't answer his phone, immediately texted
him and told him I was coming back to help
him look for her. He texted me back saying not
to bother. He found her safe on the next block.
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He then said he didn't feel like talking. I said, okay,
but swore on my late parents that I saw her
in the backyard and never saw her in the house,
and that she must have nosed the door open or something.
We haven't spoken since when I told my other friend
what happened. He said that my other friend was crazy
and that it was his responsibility to watch his dog,
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not mine. He says that animals sometimes get out, and
even his own dog escaped several times when he had
come to the over and he certainly didn't verbally attack
his guests and blame them for it. When he feels
like talking again, I know he's going to roast me
again over it. I'm not sure what to say. And
by the asshole here, I would say, not at all,
(11:01):
not at all. It's not his responsibility to make sure that,
you know, his friend's dog doesn't go the house. It's
his friend's responsibility.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Right, I mean, you know, I mean he's dropping off
food for his you know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Sounds like he's a better friend than what this other
guy was to him. So I just say goodbye, you know, seriously,
I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Go, dog, go.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Go over and open the door. I'm here, goodbye, but
leaving the dog out. But no, it's you know, you
just he has to do what's best for him. And
if people have no right to treat you that way,
you know, no matter, no matter how good of a
friend do you think they are.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It just sounds like he was pissed over the fact
that the dog got out, you know, and he's taking
out on everybody else except for himself.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Right, no responsibility again, So I don't know these people.
These people are problems, right.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I would say the commenters agree with all that there,
because hey, thank.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
If I ever saw him again, I'd just cross the
street and you keep on going.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Do's your dog?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
His dog would probably run to him, and you know,
not the owner, not his buddy, all.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right, exactly. Anyways, going to the comments here, not the
asshole some dogs are escape artists. Oh yeah, so if
your caring friend dropping off clothes and food, and your friend,
although worried at the time, should not have unleashed his
anger on you because his dog was starting enough to
get out. Thank goodness she was found safe. But there's
nothing more than you can say after the fact except
(12:48):
that you know. So, I mean like he offered the search,
you know, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Offer to help him look and everything else. So I
think that's a good friend, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Even if he had by accident let the dog out,
he offered to come back and help him look. So
either way, he's not you know, the assholes. He's still
a good friend because he offered to, you know, help
him find him find the dog.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right yeah. Another person said, not the assholes behavior as shit,
you were looking dropping off food for him. He knows
his dog is trying to escape. That's on him to
make sure that she is secure, not leave with the
you who's bringing stuff in for him. He's an adult
having a tantrum like a child. He needs to grow
up and not get over himself. It takes some responsibility
for his pets and actions. He doesn't even know how
(13:38):
she got out yet is blaming you? Perhaps it's harsh,
but I cannot stand people who act like that. So
let me ask you a question here at your current house,
have any of your pets that you've had in the
past has gotten now well?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I even remember it was more like my neighbor's dog
even got out of the house. And this was a
big the dog got it. I kind of was they
called They called him bear, So that is a perfect
description of him, because he was big, and he was black,
and he was like he must have weighed two hundred pounds.
(14:16):
I don't know they were. They were older at the time.
And so their dog got out and he ran across
the street. So I was like, oh no, I ran
over across the street to get their dog, and he
drugged me back to their house across the street. So
(14:38):
heaven helped me. If if there would have been a
car coming, I couldn't be here today to tell the story.
But I mean it was a big dog. But yeah,
I mean, you know, and there's no one to blame.
They are those dog cats too. You can see cats
opening doors and everything.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Which one time, actually whenever I with my ex our
cat a time, his name was Daniel big has big
ming was yeah, friendly as all hell and everything there.
But one time I opened the back kitchen door and
he ran out into our backyard and think god, it
was fenced, but he started running out. But the problem
(15:19):
was is that he was a big cat, and honestly,
it's probaby little overweight, so it was a little slow.
He started running and it was kind of like, you know,
you may all these noise when we run. He started
running towards my my ex and literally though I grabbed
them and screwed them up. I was like, no, you
don't put him back in. But it's like never indoor cat.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah. You know, my my our little dog Lollie, she
used to get was funny. She yeah, we'd have we'd
have her like, you know, tied on a lead in
the backyard. Yeah, she chewed through an eylon lead. Oh wow,
my my neighbors said, wasn't that dog. Yeah, normally she
(16:09):
was good. That was when she was a puppy, but
then she she learned to stay in her yard.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now, like if she ever got off her leader or not,
would she actually.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Stay off the road, Oh no, because she was We
walked her in a field across the street and she uh,
we were busy working in the yard, and I guess
she had to go to the bathroom, so she just
took herself across the road. Was going over there to
(16:38):
do Yeah, I know where I have to go and
uh yeah. But then you know, when we when we
would see that she was there, we'd be more panicked
and didn't want to chase her or you know, so
but we'd call her name and then she she generally
wouldn't run from us, she would you know, come to us.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So she was generally well behaved then at that point.
So she was rhythm even with or without you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Man there. I mean you have to watch there's just
like babies, you have to watch them all the time
because they're always into.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Something, right, Yeah, I mean it's actually I was actually
kind of surprised because I've had friends who then they
have what are that were initially indoor cats and let
them outside in the room and then they come back
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it was I would be afraid
to do that if I like, well enough, yeah, I
can see like if you have a balcony or something,
to let them out on the balcony, but just try
to keep them you know, and closed there somehow or something.
I would never let them be out overnight. That would
(17:52):
be too many things and can get them.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right that and also too, I'm kind of afraid of
like what they would be bringing back. You know that
mouse a mole.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Had. I had an outdoor cat that used to bring
me treats like that all the time. Your sister and
I would be up on the kitchen table trying to
shoot the out Yes, trying to shoot the cat back out.
Thank you, thank you for the treat, but no, thank
you right but yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Anyways, guess what time it is?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
What time is there time?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
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Speaker 2 (19:53):
And welcome back to the Joe Last Show. So once again,
my mom is with me. And when we go ahead
here and read the more stories. So how you liking
it there?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's good. I'm glad you like it. So, yeah, because
that's always funny because every is the beginning there. Whenever
they record an episode, they're kind of like, I'm nervous,
and then after that it's kind of like, oh, this
was fun, I want to do this again.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I wasn't nervous. I wasn't nervous at all. It's just
like more anxious just to get started from doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I actually just want to do it, and now that
I've done it. Cool. Anyways, we're your ahead here, you
get on with the next story. So I think this
kind of resonates with us here because we're both graphic designers.
You know, you definitely by schooling me just kind of
like just buy you know, you're rubbing off on me, you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Know, around around. I drug you down to the school
and everything with me.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So right whenever I was a small kid, yeah, and
you were going to school at the time. I remember
you dragging me down there. So but it's also something
I've always been interested in as well. And yeah, so anyways,
here am I the assho for going to another graphic
designer after not getting Mates rates from my friend. So
I helped co found a charity and we were looking
(21:17):
for a graphic designer for a logo. All this coming
out of my pockets, so there's more fundraising money going
to where it should. My friend is a graphic designer
and she's pretty good. I reached out there her asking
how much it would cost to get a logo, and
she quoted me a price. I asked her if there
was a discount for Mates or for the fact that
it was for charity. She said no, sorry, we charged
(21:40):
me normal rates. I totally no problem. I'd have a
think about it and went in shop to ry and
found a designer who I liked and quoted me around
eighty percent of what my friend quoted me, and I
really liked her work that was more in the budget
I was looking for. And she threw in a few
extra social networking logos as well because she really liked
our clos We spoke and I really clicked with her,
(22:03):
and she was also really good with deadlines and communications, etc.
As a result, I've been plugging her stuff everywhere because
people really liked their logo and thought it was clever.
I've also recommended her to a few friends of mine
and co workers with side businesses who are currently the
websites for the stores due to the COVID shutdowns, who
have hired her. I've also been plugging her business on
(22:24):
social media and also gave another shout out to the
graphic designer for another nice logo. My friend called me
about something else and as we were chatting, she told
me she was upset with me for going with the
other designer. I told her it was just about price.
She charged lots my friend just asked me why didn't
take the quote back to her and asked her to
match the price. I told her I didn't want to
(22:45):
be that friend that haggled too much after I asked
for MATS rates and gotten shot down. She said that
in this climate, she had taken the job if I
was serious about being cheap, especially since I was plugging
the graphic designer instead of her. Now that she's had
other jobs due to my passing on her contact info
but not my friends, I explained to my friend that
I've had a really good customer service experience with her,
(23:07):
so it's scriptable recommending her. My friend said it was
still upsetting that would promote something else instead of her
and pass on jobs. I knew my friend was struggling
for work in his climate. Am I the asshole here?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Not at all?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You know. It was kind of you know, her friend,
you know, shopped around fund a better rate, and the
person did a good job.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And he wasn't asking her to do it for nothing, right,
you know, And he wasn't asking he you know, is
coming out of his own pocket and it was a
charity thing, so I think he I think he was
better off, you know, doing what he did. You know,
it was it was cheaper in the long run, and
he got the work on time, and that would be
something I would be afraid of, you know, with his
(23:54):
original friend, because you know, maybe she wouldn't take it
serious enough and you know, you know, wouldn't be meeting
his deadlines and things like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That, right because doing it for friends and doing it
for a reduced price and everything there was kind.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Of like, yeah, she'll get to it when she has
time to get to it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
It wouldn't be a priority.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, no, absolutely not so and then you know she
threw in all these extra perks and things for him too,
So yeah, I mean, he absolutely did the right thing,
and he probably made a new friend in the long
run too. And exactly, you know, you keep going back
to these people for work and work and work, and
you know you always get the extra little perks or
(24:31):
a discount or you know, some kind of freebie or
something just for being that loyal customer, right exactly, and
they deserve to have the promos and things you know,
sent their way for all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yep, it was kind of like you scratch my back,
I'll scratch ours. And it sounds like, you know, it's
a you know, pretty happy relationship between the two, you know,
doing great work there, promoting your business. You know, something's
working on pretty well. And their friend, I think is
not just you know, sired.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
On the fact that you know, yeah, I mean trying,
you know, trying to turn it around on him. Well,
if I knew you were serious, well, she asked her.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
How serious there? When I asked you her?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah really, I mean, yeah, well, you know, I'm working
for this company. What do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
But yeah, yeah, good for him sticking to his guns.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Calmenters completely agree with us there, not the asshole. She
can have it both ways. That she wants to treat
you like a normal non friend client, which is fair
and understandable. She should be expected to be treated as
a normal business, which I think happenterary. It's kind of like,
yeah'm going to look around, you know, right. Another person said,
not the asshole. You gave her the opportunity, and she
was not going to give you this kind of price
(25:40):
unless shown someone else would. The other graft designer, however,
went above and beyond, originally offering a lower sum for
presumably more work easy not the asshole, and then finally here,
this is one of the many reasons that friends and
businesses often should not mix. You asked if she could
do better on price, you said, no, you took her
(26:01):
business and someone that could. She has no right to
be mad at you. It's just business, true. Yeah, I
think it's really in this case r yeah, where she
was just kind of like, you know, well.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, she ended up saying yeah, you know, it burned her.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And you know, I mean if this did happen, happened
during COVID or right after COVID and stuff, everybody was
you know, willing and able to get back to work
and you know, do what they could just to keep
their business afloat or whatever. For her, just to expect
him to take the price at any at any costs,
you know that. You know, she should have been she
(26:40):
should have been more flexible with him.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And if I put myself in that situation there, let's
say I was the person doing the garved design work there.
Oh yeah, I give my friend a better rate than
I would a normal person, I think anybody you know, yeah,
with a normal sense of like, you know, hey, you're
my friend. You know I'm going to give you a deal.
You know would give you.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I mean that goes far too and I think you
know what we'll be talking about probably next but yeah,
it's like, you know, that goes so far. I mean,
she has to make a living, we understand that, but
there are always, you know, things in the long run
she probably could have done and for him that would
have helped her and would have helped him.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right. Anyways, believe it or not, we're on to the
last story of the show.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The mimin of conclusion that went fast.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I know. Yeah, this one's because I said to you
in the beginning. Yeah, it was kind of like this
show looks.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Longer, No, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Anyways, the last story is and by the asshole for
expecting friends to do things in their field for free.
I deal with this a lot. I work in it
graphical design, and people ask me for tech help constantly,
like everyone's go to guy if their computer's broken, they
need to upgrade, their internet isn't working, you name it.
I always help because I tend to try to live
(28:01):
by the standard that if I have the ability to
help someone and choose not to, then I'm morally in
the wrong. Well, the other day I needed some legal advice.
So reached out to a buddy of mine, how I've
helped with computer stuff by the way, if you'd be
willing to give me essentially a consultation. He directed me
to his website where I am hit with a one
(28:21):
hour consultation. It's three hundred dollars, so I was like, hey,
I really can't afford these kind of loger fees. Was
kind of hoping you can just help me as a friend. Well,
he laughed and got a little rude with me and
saying the old don't ask people to do what they
do for a living for free. But I never really
understood that mindset because I help people all the time
for free and would feel bad for accepting payment for
(28:41):
my friends and they need help. I was kind of
taken aback and responded to that I never charged you
for any of the help I gave him within my profession.
But he said that's different because this is just computer stuff,
which felt like I'm being looked down on. When he
kind of got into it a little bit where I said, yeah,
but you take your stuff to me because you think
taking it to the store as a ripoff. My rate
(29:02):
is actually a lot higher than a place like best buy.
We really didn't make up and probably aren't talking that
much anymore, so am I the asshole? But there's also
an edit in here where basically he clarifies what kind
of work that he's done for him in the past.
He said, he designed the logo, I helped create a
web page and informs the mission ticketing system, have helped
(29:26):
repair broken computers, build a gaming computer for free labor,
set up a small office home network, and designs some
flyers for his wife's cleaning service. Other than that, it's
just been general troubleshooting advice like you would expect. Oh
my god, you know he think his friend what I
(29:47):
think his friend definitely was the asshole for being like,
go to our website a stream dollars an hour?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, I mean, and what do I tell you all
the time to not give your work away for free?
I mean, I could see doing a little bit of
this stuff that when you're getting into creating web pages
and doing design like that, and some of the other
you know, I mean, trouble shooting advice or something like that.
(30:14):
That's nothing, that's just you know, conversation. But you know,
designing flyers for his wife and no, I mean, he
this neighbor really took advantage of him too far.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I have a friend who I help up with
computer stuff where he wants in a great while, and
once I'm done, it's like, hey, how much do I
owe you? And it's always kind of weird for me
to ask him, you know, for money. So I'm just like,
whatever you feel, you know, yeah, you know, so I
think we kind of settle upon like that twenty dollars
per hour thing there.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Well that's nice. I mean, you know, that's nice, and
it's generous of him to you know, recognize that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I think it cost him a lot more if you
could go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Else, you know, well, if you had, you know, I mean,
this guy is like he's creating these flyers and things,
and I mean it's his time. His time is worth
a lot more than what you know, I mean, you know,
not three hundred dollars an hour, but you know, but
I doubt that lawyer is worth that much either.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But in the too, it's kind of like, you know,
if they're friends, you know, you're thinking of you, like,
you know, I can give you some suggestions kind of thing,
you know, basically.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yes, yes, you know, or leading in the right direction,
like who should I talk to about this? Conversation? You know,
not conversation necessary.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I'd be like, there'll be three hundred dollars please before
I talk to you about this.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You're right, right, I don't even open my mouth for
less than two right. But I'm just wondering, what is
the real point of this story, Joe? And why why
did you save it? Why did you save it for last?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You don't do that to me there, But I mean
I have heard you're.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Tired of me asking you to help me, Like no, no, no, no,
you're my mom telling you.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Guys don't ask for help very often either, and usually
when you do ask for help, it's usually a complicated
situation that sometimes I don't even know the answer, to
be honest with you, there, you're.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Being generous right now, because I can remember the times
you're like, did you read the manual?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, I also find that if people tried to help
themselves first before I help them there, you know, because
it's kind of like, you know, if you're coming from
a complete area of ignorance, it's kind of like it's like, well,
I can't get online. It's like this in the days
of dollop. Well, did you say if you have a
dowal tone, did you see you know, whenever you try,
(32:44):
you know, calling up you know, America online or something there,
that it's actually dowling, you know, or you know, a
bunch of other things are basically that would basically be
kind of like, so I know that you've tried certain
things first, and I also know where we're at and
the whole entire scheme of things there, so I know
where the starting point and it's basically but also too
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Maybe it used to be that way, but anymore I'm
just too lazy to figure it out, so I call
you first.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well, I think it's a lot more you know, normal
nowadays there, because it's kind of like it one time
not everybody had cell phones, but now you you know,
your your husband have phones, I have a phone there,
and you guys have computers and we're a lot more
connected online now. It's also easier. Yes, So I think
(33:32):
for you guys, there's just kind of like, you know,
plus being in a communications background that you both of
you guys are out there, it's kind of like there's
certain things you guys know how to do.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You know, Yes, but there's certain things we're so over
learning the new technologies and everything that goes along with it.
So we're like, it is, it's hard to keep up
with it all. So can we ask, well, I do
you do it for dinner?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, it's like me going to you guys. It's kind
of like, you know, it's like, you know, one hundred
dollars an hour, which is what one of the commenters
said there. It's kind of like I'd use the same
line if he ever comes to you with a computer problem.
Again to our minimum, this is your dad is backed up,
but we make no guarantees. Yeah, so yeah. And then
also to this guy treats you more like his lackey
(34:23):
than an actual friend. He expected to do all this
which would cost a lot for free, yet didn't think
he deserved the same treatment when it comes to his service.
Block that dude and cut off any supporting tech work
regarding his family business, you know. And also to another person,
said send him an invoice for all the IT work
that you've done. Yeah, because the sounds that he didn't
value your work basically, right.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That's you see, that's what happens like even with a
lot of graphic designers and artists in general and stuff
like that that you know, they they think, well, you
could just whip this up in a couple of minutes.
You know, it's not gonna you know, and they don't know,
they don't know the technology that it takes too.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And I'll pay you an exposure design business. Yes, think
of all the exposure you'll get.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, unfortunately, right right, your work will be out there. Yeah,
that's the first thing people want to look at. Who
did this, Who designed this? That's all, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But probably one of my biggest regrets there is is
that I did a bar decided they wanted a new logo,
so I was like, yeah, I'll do it for you there,
and you know, I got paid my normal rate for
doing it there, not anything extra for it there, and
theyson sold the business, you know, and they're still using
this logo. I see this logo everywhere almost every single day,
(35:41):
and it's just kind of like.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's where you should copyright your work or you know, I.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Should have charged for that logo, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, no, you should have held on to the you know,
the rights to it or something, and if they wanted it,
they'd have to buy it off of you too.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And then also talking about the fact that's a nice
logo and it has the city of Pittsburgh in it there,
and you know, the fact that commented about that and
everything there. It's just kind of like, you know, it's nice,
you know, being recognized for doing a good job and
everything there, but also on the other hand there too,
it's kind of like, you know, I really did not
make out at all on the deal.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know, noll I used to tell you, don't give
yourself away. You did, you got burned quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, but it's always like I'm working on a portfolio,
but at some point in time it's be like at
to stop working on that portfolio and actually start doing stuff,
you know.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yes, start charging for stuff, right exactly. Yeah, you're you're
very good at what you do, I mean everything, and
that's just not a mother talking. You are very good
at the graphic design stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We thank you. And someday I learned how to speak too.
So anyways, believe it or not, we come up to
the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well again, so yeah, that one fast.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I know, yeah, this always goes so faster. But anyways,
thanks once again for checking out the Joe Velocity show.
Make sure who subscribed to us in your favorite podcast app,
so don't miss an episode. New episodes dropped every Monday.
For access to our websites, visit us at jovelocity dot com.
Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next week. Have
(37:27):
a good one bye,
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