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October 20, 2025 44 mins
On the 12th episode of The Joevelocity Show, Joe is joined by Hubba, and we discuss r/AITA stories from Reddit.

• My girlfriend and I have a puppy but cannot be there for her 100% of the time. AITA? 

We start off with a discussion about the responsibilities of pet ownership, particularly when it comes to managing time and care for a young puppy. We tackle a dilemma involving a couple who are struggling to care for their new puppy while balancing their college commitments. The puppy's care falls on the girlfriend's younger brother, leading to an incident where the puppy chews a bottle of urine cleaner, raising concerns about her health. We explore the parents' frustration over the situation and their threat to put the puppy up for adoption due to the couple's absence. As we unpack the scenario, we debate whether it's fair to hold a 13-year-old responsible and highlight the importance of understanding the responsibilities of having a pet. The overarching theme is about learning to juggle priorities and responsibilities while ensuring the safety and well-being of a beloved pet.

• AITA for not supporting my friend's "AI music career"?

Next, we explore the role of AI in creative industries, questioning its impact on authenticity and the value of human skill. We discuss how AI-generated content, such as music and movies, is gaining traction, sometimes at the expense of genuine human creativity. Concerns about AI replacing real artists and creating virtual personas for commercial gain are raised, alongside humorous yet unsettling examples of AI-generated media featuring iconic figures like Bob Ross, Fred Rogers, and Michael Jackson. Throughout, we stress the importance of using AI as a tool rather than a replacement for human input, emphasizing honesty and transparency with audiences about AI's involvement in creative processes.

• AITA for asking my girlfriend to pay me back after she broke my gaming headset?

The conversation shifts to a personal story about the responsibility and fairness involved when accidents happen, specifically when asking a girlfriend to pay for a broken gaming headset. 

• My husband has informed me he intends to go on a "gaycation" with his BIL in Ibiza. How do I handle this?

Finally,  we tackle an unusual and complex relationship dilemma, as we explore the concept of a "gaycation," where a husband plans a trip to Ibiza with his brother-in-law under the guise of experiencing gay life without identifying as gay or bisexual. I discuss the wife's confusion and concern as she navigates this surreal situation, trying to understand her husband's motivations and whether his desire to participate in such a trip is indicative of a deeper truth about his sexuality. We also touch on the emotional strain this revelation has placed on their marriage, the husband's defensive stance, and the wife's fear of their marriage potentially ending if he proceeds with the trip. Through humor and disbelief, we reflect on the challenges of communication and trust within a relationship when confronted with such unexpected desires.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
And welcome once again to the Joe Velossi Show. I'm
here once again with my friend Hubbuy.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey y'all, what's going on? What's going nor right? Drop
a bomb for me? Drop a bomb?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
There you go? Yeah right? Anyways, uh so, welcome back again,
and we have a lot to cover here, so we're
going ahead and get right into the first story. The
first story is my girlfriend and I have a puppy.
It cannot be there for her one hundred percent of
the time. And by the asshole, my girlfriend and I

(01:18):
are both college students living in her parents' house. Four
months ago, her father bought us a puppy and agreed
to watch her while we are physically unable to. Since
we were on a fall break. We have been home
for the majority of the past four to five days.
Today I had to work from four pm to eleven PM,
and my girlfriend had training for fire fighting during dinner time,
which also means that the puppies dinner time. My girlfriend's

(01:41):
little brother, who's thirteen, was in our room playing on
my computer, which is on this one occasion he was
given permission to do so. To believe, I'm very protective
of my stuff and do not like people using my
things and watching my five month old puppy because his
parents were supposedly being rude to her, so it was
just him and my puppy in the room. When dinner

(02:02):
time came around, neither me or my girlfriend were home,
so her little brother was asked by her parents to
feed the dog. He did so to ask me how
to make her food, which I thanked them because he
shouldn't have to do that, it's not a dog. Anyways.
After eating dinner, he went back to playing the game
on my PC, but was not paying attention to the dog,
which in my eyes, he was responsible for because he

(02:23):
decided to take her into my room alone instead of
putting her into her house. Slash craped my puppy, then
proceeded to tear apart and potentially drank a bottle of
urine cleaner, which was in a bag next to mine
in my girlfriend's bed. I believe completely that it is
the little brother's fault for not actually watching her like
he said he was going to, and then proceeded to
say it was my fault for having the bottle on

(02:44):
the floor, even though she wouldn't have been in my
room had he not brought her in there. And I'm
very worried for my dog's health. Girlfriend's parents believe it
was also our fault and said we shouldn't have left
the dog because when she is in her house she cried,
you do not want to deal with it. Girlfriend told
her parents that we are sorry, which we are. She

(03:06):
cries when she's in the crate, but says that they're
going to have her out of the crate. Then we
fully expect them to watch the dog because she cannot
be let free like older dogs, which you are free
years old. I'm at a loss for words in a solution.
Girlfriend's parents are threatening putting up the dog for adoption. Well,
girlfriend and I are not home. I mean, that's that's tough,

(03:29):
because you know, dogs are like a family member number one,
number two. They're also a responsibility, and I don't think
that people really are paying attention to how much of
responsibility a pet is. Now. I don't have any pets myself,
but there's specific reasons that because I'm single, you know,

(03:49):
if I want to travel and I don't have to
worry about boarding the pet. In this case, we'd be
a cat, you know, but or having somebody watch the
cat or whatnot there. But basically it's just a lot easier,
you know. But I would love to have a pet.
I'll be honest with you. I mean, you you actually
have a dog.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Right, I have a dog and a cat and a cat, And.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, do you think it's a pain in the neck? Sometimes?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Absolutely? Sometimes sometimes, but you love them, right and you'll
do anything for them.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
So it could be a pain because sometimes, you know,
when you got to work and you have other things
going on, it's hard to sometimes keep up with everything,
especially when.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You're doing it on your own.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
So I don't know, I don't know. I want to
hear yeah, answer first. I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
They're too busy, you know, because if they're not able
to take care of the dog, you know, because if
one of them isn't home, you know, or neither one
of them are home, or enough of the basis there.
I can understand the parents thoughts there where it's kind
of like, you know, you're you're not here enough to
take care of this dog.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, this is a thirteen year old child.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Who's then had to take care of her, and then he's.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Going to be a thirteen year old child.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
It's a simple fact that you're taking it so far
where it's just a little, quick, little lesson for him
to learn that he'll maybe do better. Y'all took it
way off and beyond. Then it just was like, come on,
this is a thirteen year old.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Child, right exactly. You know, the commenters agree with you.
You're the asshole. Your puppy, your responsibility, not a thirteen
year old child's responsibility. How was he supposed to know
that that was even out? Yeah, puppies chew everything. If
you don't want chew, then you should put it away.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yes, you know, yes, what the hell made them choose
to get it? Think of getting a puppy in the
first damn place?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Right, Oh, it's pretty, it's cute. Yeah, but you know,
it's like when you have a pet, you take the good,
you take the bad. There you have and there you
have the facts of life. Yeah, you're the asshole. You
don't blame it chid for your responsibility. A puppy is
yours and your girlfriend's responsibility. Your little brother helped feed
the dog, thankful for that. Your dumb ass off something

(06:14):
poisonous to your animal or anyone else on the floor.
The little brother didn't know it was there, and trustly
should not even be healing stuff like that. If you
don't have the time to properly care for a pet,
then you shouldn't have one. Hard stop exactly. And then
the last commenter was like, everybody sucks here. You got
a puppy you can't supervise while living with unwilling roommates.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
So no, don't do that to the thirteen year old.
I ain't feeling that one. No, no, no, no, leave
the thirteen year old alone. He's just being a thirteen
year old. Exactly, exactly, No, everybody sucked.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
You better go here. You better blame them to the
two that.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Set decide to buy that puppy and decide to take
care of it, it's their responsibility.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Don't play like that.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, don't play like that fell flat.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
It.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We're gonna head to move on to the second story here,
and by the asshole for not supporting my friend's AI
music career. So, a friend of mine likes to make music.
She used to write her own music and lyrics and
play them on a guitar. She has always been alright
at both, but never brilliant, which didn't matter because we
were only jamming among friends. It was fun. I myself

(07:26):
liked to sing, but also gives to myself okay, rather
than just actually talented. About a half a year ago,
she discovers some AI music tool which you can feed
with prompts and lyrics and it'll spit out whatever genre
and style you like with AI general instruments and vocals.
I explained to her that I'm a little uneasy with
the idea because it takes away from the creative process
and craftsman shift of making music, but I didn't press

(07:48):
the issue because I thought it would be just for fun.
Now though, she fancies the songs she's created with the
AI so much that she started a campaign for them.
She's published an album on Spotify and advertises for on
her Instagram. She wants me to share her post and
support her music career. I don't want to do that.
Does that make me a bad friend? No, I don't

(08:09):
think Frank it don't make it a bad make her
a bad friend. But the thing is she needs to
let people know that it's AI music and that's all
time run off of a I.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
She needs to be honest with her followers or you know,
to be honest about that, like, hey, AI is helping
me out with this, you know, let that be front known.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
But you know what I.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Mean, if I wouldn't mind that, if she actually let
the win. But it's the simple fact that she's going
off of it and making it like she originally came
up with this music.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I don't support that, and.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
She saild not either. There's another thing to be said
there about that is that, yes, AI is a tool.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
It's a good tool. It's a great tool. Actually it's
a great tool.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
But it No.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
But on the other hand, there too, it's kind of
like how much of it is being generated by her
and how much of it is being generated by AI.
I think you kind of cross that line. It's kind
of like, yeah, if you have a song, maybe you
use AI to enhance that song. That's one thing. If
you use AI to generate the whole entire song and
all the lyrics and everything there, you don't really pret much.
All you're doing is that just being a prompt, Like

(09:24):
and I write a song about so and so and
make it in the style and it does the whole
entire thing, and you publish that without disclosing the fact
it was AI. Then that's the problem, you know. So Yeah,
I mean, I personally myself use AI for a lot
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
There.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I have fallen in love with chat GPT and I'll
be honest there it generates some really hilarious results.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Man, who haven't lately chat GBT is like a savior,
you know what I mean when it comes to certain things,
because sometimes we all need help somewhere or something right.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
But the who entire thing is is that like for Zil,
I'll use the de generate pictures of the my team
means of my bowling team, but it will also generate
them throwing the ball into the crowd or throwing it
into the other lane, you know, So it will generate
some hilarious results sometimes. And then also too, it's kind
of like I generated a picture of my friend bowling.
And then I said, generate a picture where team or

(10:18):
really have our pictures, and it generated the picture of
the team without me and it but with him in it.
And I'm like, no, that's not right. But you want
to hear something funny, do you do? You have chat
GPT and your friend, yes, grab it real quick and
ask it what the seahorse emoji is? Okay, so go

(10:39):
in there, go into your come on right, So you're
gonna go ahead here and do that, and we're gonna
find out what happens here.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Okay, what is it?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, so go ahead there and find out. We'll ask
it what is the seahorse emoji?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
What is the seahorse emoji?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Look at the response to giving here.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
And it's like, are confused?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It gets so freaking confused.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Look at the answer. I'm not I'm not even reading that.
That's that's too much.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's like, wait a second, No, it's this, No, it's that. No,
I'm sorry, I screwed up. Let me try this again.
It's this note, not that.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Gosh, it just gets confused.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It gives you a big lung paragraph and I like,
on mine, I was like, you know what the only
answer to this is there's no seahorse emotions.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yes, there's no Yeah, girl, you didn't figure that out,
Like it has its fans and butts to you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So that's an instance where AI will just hallucinate. You know,
it thinks there's a seahorse emoji, but there's actually not
an actual, real seahorse emotion exactly and literally, yeah, It's
so it kind of just goes on and on, and
then when you tell it no, hey, you're wrong, it
continues to go on and just continue to be more wrong,

(12:11):
and you're just like stop stop, stop, stop, stop shut up.
Yeah right, I was like, the only right answer to this.
I eventually told my chat GBT is that there is
no sea horse emotion. So a few weeks later, I
asked it, Hey, what is the seahorse emotion? And it
was like, there's no seahorse emoji. I'm like, good, do
you know who?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
That sounds like with chat GBT, sounds like with that.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Like, I'm absolutely sure.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
They just gotta be right. They just got to make
sure they come up with the right answer.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
And it's just like it's okay to be wrong sometimes.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, but I think there always has to be a
human aspect to it. There and the commenters I think
agree with us. Not the asshole. AI slop has no
place in creative roles hobbies and only the value those
with actual skill using another role that's not creating of
all for it, but music art, AI should be shunned. Yes.

(13:05):
Another one said, you're refusing to promote her ability to
put in a prompt. You're not refusing to promote her
music because it's not her music. It's basically a commission
credited to a program. And then the final one said,
I do think AI can replace people who aren't fired
despite being super wrong constantly like CEO and pundits. Otherwise, Yeah,
not very useful at all, very dumb. Yes, yeah, you know,

(13:28):
like I said before, it's a tool. Some people are
using that tool as the complete answer, and it's not
the complete answer. It's literally a tool. You need to
go and inspect the answer to make sure number one
is right and number two is you're pregnant. The edit
it so it sounds like you.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
You're using chagbt to get to the answer, to help
you get to that, like, yeah, you know what I mean.
You're not using it as the answer, You're using it
to help you get there, right and to come up
with the best do you know what I mean? But
like I said, she just usn't honest about it to
me to like her followers or the people who actually

(14:06):
like support her music.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right, Yeah, So basically as far as I'm concerned, Yeah,
she needs the one to be honest with, you know her,
you know, her fans like, hey, this is all a
I know. I mean the sad part is Ey has
gotten so good that you know they're pregnant, be like, hey,
this is actually pretty good, you know, right, there's there

(14:30):
there's actually stories about people on Spotify who have created
whole entire AI bands, pictures and everything there.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And they're getting music deals.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, and they're not even replacing human things.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
And there's a new one that recently came out there
where you can generate movies now. And they saw a
movie Bob Ross wrestling Fred Rogers. They basically use like
the source from a WrestleMania video.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Is extremely good. I mean, granted, mister Rogers's voice didn't
match up. It's not like pst Man. But on the
other hand, there too, I mean, other than that, I mean,
if you weren't looking closely, you you would be like, yeah,
this looks real, you know, So I've feeling it's like
an N wall.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, man, I don't seen Michael Jackson Hill.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
They didn't have Michael Jackson Uper working at the grocery stores.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
They right up the gates that he was up there
Beefer with twupoc couple back. It was just like, you know,
what is going to far?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Too far?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's just like come on.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Some of them do be funny, but then they gets
to a point where like, okay, like this is just
And I even seen AI commercials on YouTube teams.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh yeah, I see, I see.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
And they and the way AI is looking is still
not THEIRS that you can still tell is AI.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But it's the simple fact that they're using a.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
AF for fucking coomerect our shoes right for advertising.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
So speaking, which take a break, and this motherfucker, I'm
telling you right now they trying to replace us.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, like I said, it's a toll. You know you
have to use a toll, right, So go ahead here,
we're gonna take a break. We'll be having more the
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yes, I no no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You're reading anyways, We're gonna get and continue on here
with the third story here, and by the asshole for
asking my girlfriend the peemy back after she broke my
gaming headset. So you you game, you probably have a headset, right, Yeah,
so you kind of understand what's going on here. So I,

(18:28):
twenty five female, have a gaming headset that I used
pretty much daily. It wasn't super high end, but it
also wasn't cheap. I stay up for it and it
costs around one hundred and twenty dollars. I use it
for gaming, work calls, and just general stuff. Last weekend,
my girlfriend was hanging out in my apartment. She sat
down on my desk's chair without realizing the headset was
on it, and when she sat she basically crushed one

(18:50):
of the earcups. It snapped the plastic part, and now
it doesn't sit right in my head. Plus the mic
doesn't work anymore. I wasn't mad at the moment because
accident happened, but I did say something like, damn, that's
broken down. I'm gonna need to get a new one.
She laughed it off and said, well, you'll get an upgrade.
I kind of awkwardly asked if she'd be one to
put the cost or at least help replace it since

(19:11):
it was her mistake. She immediately got defensive and said,
are you serious it was an accident. I'm not paying
for that. You're being ridiculous. I said, I didn't think
it was ridiculous if I accidentally broke something of hers.
I absolutely offered to replace it. She robed her eyes
and told me I cared too much about stiff. Since then,
she's been distanced and one of our mutual friends even
told me that I should just let it go because

(19:32):
it's not worth fighting ever. But it's not pocket changed
to me, it just feels unfair so and by the
asshole for asking her to help pay for the headset
she broke, even though it was an accident.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I'm split in the middle with this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Why So.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't think she meant like, oh, you got a
pain to the whole, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Just you just need a little help because I saved
up to get these ifos and I know it was
a but I need a little help, you know what
I mean. And it's just like I don't think she's
asking it like being rude about it, you know what
I mean, she's just asking for help.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's your girlfriend. Why wouldn't you want to help her?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right? Let's also talk about to where that was? It
was bitch, bitch, bitch. I also too well, I was
trying to say her before he said bitch was? Where was?
Where was? The head said? That was on the chair
and she sat on it without looking, probably not expecting

(20:33):
the headset to be there.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, she didn't expect that. She didn't expect that. Yeah,
So I mean I guess, like I said, that's what
makes me a little split in the middle about it,
because she didn't expect that to be there. But she
that's your girlfriend. She asked for little help. Wouldn't you
want to help your girlfriend?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right? Yeah, I've been thinking to be like, oh my god,
I'm so sorry. Let me help you replace this kind
of thing, you know, Yeah, because I mean it may
be one of those cases where they're kind of hard
off money because they're only twenty three. Yeah, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh, I remember what it was like at twenty three
years old and you worked hard to get something and
then it then it suddenly breaks and it's like.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
You need help to get it back exactly Yeah, it's
one thing. I gotta stops the commenters. I think we're
necessarily agreement with us there. But on the end there too,
they were kind of harsh towards the person set on
the headphones. One of them said, it's one thing, it's

(21:32):
a delivery recliner or kitchen chair, but headphones on a
desk chair. Yeah, it's one hundred percent on her for
not looking. So the second comment actually goes back to
the first story that we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I have cats. If I sat down without looking, I
no longer have cats. Yeah, bitch, I could tell you
so many times there that I inadvernently, you know, squished
a cat like I started stitting down as like then
you know, it's like, oh wait, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh I got to run away. I got a great
little story for y'all. Now, there's been times where I've
sat on my couch. My cat is black. My couch
is black, like it's dark. It's a it's more of
a really dark blue, so like I can't see him
sometimes this match the last time I actually sat on
I was like, really saddle him, and I really god,

(22:22):
he was like a ran.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I was like, oh, slag and next thing, you know
you have no cat because you have to put the cat.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, you know that was my fault.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
And I apologize to my cat, and I did whatever
to make him feel comfortable because I was in the wrong.
I didn't look before I sat down. Okay, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
So the third commenter goes, I've been bigging my wife
for ten years to please just look where she sits.
Down is not yet happened. Once I could cover the
seat in pink pink and she sit right in it
without noticing. You used to drive me. But it's been
so long now I've been worn down and simply being perplexed.
I can't, for the life of me come up with
an explanation as to why she does it, why she

(23:08):
can't stop doing it despite many bad outcomes like breaking things,
and why anyone would ever sit somewhere without looking in
the first place. Nothing about it makes sense, But it's
nice to know that I'm not alone in the frustration.
I didn't think there are so many people who terrorize
those around them by just sitting on people's shit all
the time.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
And I could go all kinds of ways.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
It ain't just you know what I mean, Like it's
a metaphor like it could go any all kind of
fucking ways. You know, people do things in your home,
destroy your shit or whatever without fucking thinking or even
do you know, paying attention to what's going on, right,
and then you're left to pieces, Yes, you're left a
hole in the pieces and trying to figure it out

(23:46):
all over again. And it's just like you just ask
for little help, especially from your girlfriend, and she just
wanted to sit up there and act like she don't
even want to help, Like, come on, girl, and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I don't I work the handset, so sad.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'm willing to put half on
it or whatever. I don't have much when at least
and you can put half on it something.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Bitch, Yeah, do something about that, be like I'm so sorry. No, no, no,
I'm I am so sorry that this has happened. Let
me help you out. You know, I can't pay for
the whole entire thing there, but let me let.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Me help out some of them contribute or something right
anyways here, Yeah, it's and it's not like she did
she did multiple things on there, you know, with them headphones.
It's just come on, yeah again let's stop talking about this, kids,
and you ain't going.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
That bit's got me made.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Believe it or not. We are to the last story
and this is a doozy. This is our conclusion. Anyways,
the story goes, my husband has it for me that
he intends to go on a gacation with his brother
law in Biza.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's a hoe.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
How do I handle this?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's a freak coat.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know what I have to say to this?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes? Girl?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Now do you on?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Today?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Every time I heard that port, I know, you know
what's kind of funny. I was driving the other day
in Morovo, just outside of Pittsburgh here, and I was
driving along Business twenty two and there was a like
a Firestone car care place, and on their little billboard
thing they had outside, you know, like their little display thing,
it said, you know, everybody loves a Jet two holiday.

(25:47):
And then they had like their you know break alignment
or break replacement or whatever it was. Right, you know,
I was like, I laughed when I saw that. It's
just like so they gave me the idea to do.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
That either that was I hope the person that did
that commercial to voiceover for that. I hope she's doing
more voiceovers at this point.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Actually, I saw an interview with her and she is
happy that, you know, she's you know that the commercialism
has gonn popular. She did it two years ago actually, right,
But it's kind of weird because she'll be sitting like
an airplane and somebody will pull up that commercial and
play it, Yeah, just to show their friends or something.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So she's like, it's a little discussurted to hear my
own voice all the time.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, you know, to holiday. This is definitely one of
those situations.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Go ahead, right anyways, Hi there, I really wish I
didn't have to make this post, but here goes. So
me and my husband, we're both forty two, has been
happily married for about sixteen years. To give her take,
we both had stable careers, good family life and are
fairly fortunate despite the cost living rocking up in the
UK right now. We had two boys fifteen and ten,

(27:02):
and up until the Sunday thought we had it pretty good.
We argue sometimes, of course, but never gotten too bad.
We were a pretty decent sex life with some exploration,
but I won't get into that. Long and short is
on Sunday, just after I dropped off our boys at
their friends. My husband asked me if we had the
house alone, and then, more importantly, do I have a minute?
I said yes, and he sat me down and got

(27:22):
out this printed poster from some sort of orgy and
started explaining to me that the concept of a gaycation, Now,
how's it where straight men goes us somewhere with sun,
sand and booze and become gay for the duration of
the trip. But that's fine because it doesn't actually count

(27:44):
because what happens on the gaycation stays on the gacation.
I was just completely silent and mortified, even more so
when he said that he was looking to booking a
trip to Abiza next year with his brother in law,
who's thirty five, to experienced it for himself. We finally
let me speak. I just said I need him to
be clear with me is he gay, because if yes,

(28:06):
that's okay, but we need to figure out what happens
going forward. I didn't let myself get angry or upset.
I was just stunned. He swore up and down high
he's not gay, He's hundred percent attracted the women, and
of course still loves me and our boys. So I said, well,
do you think you're by maybe. He got very defensive,
saying I need to drop the accusations, and that says
the beauty of the gay cation. It allows straight man

(28:30):
the experience gay, and that's without actually being gay. He
was elemant he doesn't find men's bodies or genitalia exciting
at all, but he needs the experiences apparently. Well, I said,
I'm really not comfortable because even if he was, by
this be explicitly cheating on me. He got angry and
re entered that he's not, because that's the beauty of
the gay cation. I love that line. The beauty of

(28:50):
the gay cation.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Nothing beats at holiday ah.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Oh man man, whoever thought that would become a mean man?
So I had enough and left the room. I ignored
him for the rest of the day, but we spoke
it at tea, where again asked him why does he
want to do this so badly if he's not gay?
He said how he's interested in how gay men's lives

(29:22):
differ than straight mens, and that unfortunately, once the gaycation begins,
it's simply impossible for a man to resists. He must
surrender himself, mind, body and sold to the gaycation, or
be destroyed. I really can't put him the word. Its
all surreal. It was because he was speaking so matter
of factly and again insists this is just a thing
that straight men do all the time, and how exactly

(29:42):
doing it. A bit late, I just said to him,
if he has any love for me, then he go
ahead with us, and if he does, the marriage will
be dead. We didn't speak any more about that. Since then,
he's mentioned no more of it, but somehow, and this
is what scares me a lot too. The decision generally
seems to be tearing him up. He didn't get on
the work on Monday, and then when half a day

(30:03):
yesterday because he told him he just felt too ill.
He just looks distraught every time I see him. I
really don't think he's holy gay, even though I can
absolutely believe he's by But I'd rather be talked about
it that in a healthy way, other than this in
prebubly weird Dean lilism while going on a sex hall
day toda Za, has anyone known straight guys to do
this and come back and just go back to being straight? Like,

(30:24):
surely that can't be a thing that happens. I'm so
out of my depth here, and I just don't know
how to even initiate the conversation. For the record, I
also haven't mentioned that to his sister yet. I don't
know how i'd even break it to her. Thanks for
any help. I just don't even want to think being
able to get this out there has helped me a
little bit. Oh my freaking god.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Holiday, that's just a crazy situation. And I just feel like,
oh God, it's just like him being defensive and you know,
keep on explaining it.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, He's like, how dare you ask about? Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
And it's just like planner for.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
A full I just want to be gay for a week.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Damn, bro. It's just crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
How quick people, how quick people be ready to be
so disonest.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
First coming, I think hit it right on the head there.
Your husband isn't proposing a gacation. He's proposing cheating on
you with men while using magical thinking. The pretended doesn't
count the fact that he's planning this with his sister's
husband makes it even more disturbing. His bizarre explanation about
surrendering mind, body, and soul isn't straightening curiosity. It's someone

(31:42):
desperately trying to justify exploring their sexuality will keeping his
heterosexual marriage. His depression about not being able to go
isn't about missing vacation. It's about being forced to confront
his sexuality without its convenient. What happens in the gacation
stays in the gacation. Excuse his meltdown over not going
shows out. That's really he wants to avoid facing this reality.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
He thought homosexual.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Second one goes on to say, so, this is just
a thought, But I'm just wondering if he was really
planning on doing the gacation or if it was just
a cover that tried to get you to agree to it.
What the real plan was to get with women while
he's down there. Never thought of that.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I never thought of that. I never thought of that.
But that don't even make sense. Why would a straight
man even do that? Yeah, I don't see a straight
man doing that.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, I mean, unless see one that I mean. But
the reason why he said gaycation first and we actually
wanted to go a straight one. Yeah, it's kind of
like it doesn't quite make sense.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah. The third commenter said, tell him, you're gonna have
a straight case always gone, and you're going to surrender
my body and soul to other men. Honest to God,
If my husband proposes to me, I use his time
away to pack up, move out, and have the divorced
papers waiting for him.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean, I get her on that situation. I
completely understand where she's coming from. This man is gay? Okay,
Either this man is gay or he's gay? Is this
just he's he likes dick?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right? Well, guess what.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Update? Oh shit, here we go.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
This one is even longer than the actual story I
just told. So sit down, get yourself some coke. Like
in the last show, I don't do crack. Crack is wax. Yeah,
there you go. Anyways, let's go ahead and get on

(33:47):
to the update here. So when I last posted, I
contacted my husband to tell him he wouldn't be staying
at home tonight and the bag would be waiting for him.
As you can imagine, we argued quite badly. I won't
go into some specific details, but I'm hire percent on
board the fact that the minimum he's by might even
be gay altogether. We've had arguments in the past, but
I've generally never seen him have such a childish tantrum

(34:09):
before screaming about how I just don't understand the gaycation.
Absolutely the spies that phrase now, and insinuating that I'm
actually homophobic because I refused a lot of him to
participate in this cultural exchange with the gay community. It's
like a foreign exchange shooting. You know, I'm gonna go
on vacation and be gay for a week. A lot

(34:32):
of you said to ask him to be acceptable. The
rules were in reverse, and I did say it would
be acceptable if I went and suck with other guys
during the week, like fucking clockwork. He was very angry
and offended, saying's completely different because the gaycation means nothing,
and what happens on the gacation stays on the gaycation,
so it doesn't actually count, whereas I'd just be straight

(34:52):
up cheating. Well, I turned it around on him, but no,
you see, what happens in Manchester stays in Manchester. It
doesn't mean, it just doesn't count. It's like bird watching.
And I think I got through to him. He went
all quiet and started crying, admitting the thought of me
sleeping with another man destroying his heart. But relationships need sacrifices,
so agreed. Volunteers then when he goes on the gacation,

(35:15):
I'll get one week in Manchester to do whatever I want.
He doesn't want me to, but it's fair and twist
the way that he supposed. I told him to get
out of my house thankfully left without a fight.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
He wanted to have sex with me so bad.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Okay, I know it's incredibly petty, but he also drained
the joint bank account, which is legal in the UK,
so you could try to use it against me. About
an hour later, I got rang up by his mom,
my mother in law, who just screamed and screamed at
me about being a cheating whore, how I was horrible,
what about the kids, et cetera. When I finally got
my composure back, I just said, ask your son about

(35:50):
the gaycation, right Obviously at first she got angry, but
I said no, just ask him about the gaycation. He'll explain.
But she called me a fucking joke hung up. Later
on getting into the evening, I got another phone call
from her and flips the tears. She's being very apologetic
and I told her that she doesn't need to apologize.
She was so upset she put father in law on

(36:11):
the phone while he sounded the calm. I could just
sort of tell he was on the war path again,
very apologetic and said he overheard the phrase, asked my
husband and husband, and then she said no, it's nothing,
before explaining how it's a modern thing men do, et cetera,
and gave them the same spiel about what happens on
the gaycation men cannot resist the vacation. Oh man must
have read into the vacation follow Laget said he told

(36:34):
him the leaver they called the police, don't care where
he goes, but he wasn't staying there. Husband tried to
call me why I was on the phone, but I
just ignored it. And Fnalologist said he was so sorry
for me, and they had my corner in this, so
that's one thing. Told him to be there for their
daughter because it sounds like brother in law is involved.
Husband didn't tell him that, and Fronologist said he had
to go because he was so so angry. Got to

(36:57):
text my husband after the phone call, which is all weird,
saying about hi abused a gaycation to destroy his marriage
and destroy his life, and again insinuated I and his
parents were homophobic for doing such a thing. Totom will
talk to me. He grows up and blocked his number.
I took the day off work myself to have the
locks changed this morning. So that's five hundred pounds gone.

(37:18):
But whatever, at least I know we won't be coming back.
I'm going to look and tell the proceip with the
divorce and then we'll move from there. Oh and then
of course there was the brother in law. So I've
yet met with sister in law. She was such a
state and has taken this far far worse than I have,
for reasons that will be clear soon. We're going to
maybe try tomorrow. But we did talk over the phone,
and I eavesdrop on the conversation with her husband where

(37:40):
she put the phone on speaker and I when I mute.
Her husband got home earlier, she made her come home,
told me there was an emergency and said to him,
can you please explain what a gaycation is? She told
me afterwards she was praying he'd looked confused with just
being like what or anything like that, but ins said
he just sat her down and explained why the gacation
is a new thing where men go to the gay hotspots

(38:01):
and participate in gay sex acts, but doesn't count because
there's no investment, because what happens in the gay cation
stays in the gaycation. I'm so sick of that. Yeah,
he said, it's like writing down angry thoughts and putting
them in a drawer. You never had to see them again.

(38:21):
Whole time the system Laws and Tears just calmly bats
off the same points my husband did about how it
doesn't count, and he even did the whole entire it's
im possible to resist. You must surrender or be destroyed. Shit.
I seriously think they must be speaking to the dominatrix
or something, because surely neither one of them are into
that they actually make this up on their own. I

(38:43):
really don't want to go into what was discussed for
her sake, but it just become very parent to me
that the brother in law is into sissy hitting the
porn and at times conflated that with the concept of
a gacation. There was this utterly surreal moment where system
law is just trying to wrap her head around this
floods of tears, and he explained so generally, as a
matter of factly that for mestment in the gaycation is

(39:05):
either one time or annual thing. But some men go
on the gacation for years and others simply never returned
because they use hypnosis in my control to be totally
feminized into a state of permanent pursuit of gayness. With
the fuck, She said in disbelief. Surely, if you're taking
it up to ours willingly because you want to, that

(39:27):
makes you gay. And he said no, because that's the
beauty of the cation. Uh, you can do this, all
this gay stuff, but you don't interact with the water
gay life experience. She asked him if the sissy stuff
is what he wanted, and he said not on a
long term basis. It was adamant this is something all
straight men do, but she wouldn't get into it because

(39:47):
she is a woman. There were more insinuations of homophobia.
While that marriage is dead too, I suppose, Oh god,
so now we only we have more than one marriage dead.
So and then when she said to him he has
a choice to make, he said, no, he doesn't need
to make this choice because the beauty of the vacation

(40:07):
instead allows him to keep his marriage because it doesn't count.
She said, that's not the choice. The choice is whether
he's leaving the house that night, or she is. Only
good thing is is that he did leave me and
sister in law spoke about it after that, and I'm
just still utterly stunned. I understand she's gone to her
parents for the support. What exactly did we do to

(40:29):
have her lives destroyed in such an abrupt, bizarre, embarrassing way.
Personal advice, I'm going to look at devices and bank
stavments to see if I can find any definitive prof
of cheating. After that, I suppose figure out how to
tell the boys why their father won't be coming home. Oh,
and then there was an edit to this here spoke
to the other sister in law my husband's family, older sister,

(40:51):
him younger sister, original sister in law and gave her
a skimmed down version of it. She asked her husband,
and thankfully he was deeply confused. But then men About
two years ago, at a birthday party, he was approached
by my husband and brother in law about signing after
some online boot camp about b DSM cross dressing. He
assumed they were taking the piss out of him say

(41:13):
told them to fuck off. Never really thought of it again.
The fact this has been going on for that long
it's makes me want to throw up. And then finally
she said, for the poster who said about the divorce options,
I'm actually looking to adultery, because, plain and simple, that's
what this is.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
End of the day.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Oh my god, this was a crazy ass motherfucking adventure.
This absolutely woo oh my gosh, that man, them two
motherfuckers is some innipuative son of a bitches. And thank
god them women weren't stupid enough to fall for it, right.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I mean, that's the point of the vacation. It's just
the point of the vacation.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
It's just like they were trying to hypnotize them and
trying to get them to believe everything.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
They were saying.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
It's just like these motherfuckers are manipulative. They can go
on and be gay together forever.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'm just gonna read the last comment here, because what
a pathetic hill for two men to die on. They
destroyed their marriages, traumatized their families, and alienated their parents,
all while system of accounts. Because they made it special
worlds about it. They went to cheat with like consequences,
and they found an online community that validates this fantasy.

(42:33):
I've never heard of that in my life. And you know,
as far as I'm concerned, you're either gay or you're straight,
or maybe you're by but you know there's no in between,
like you want to do here.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Don't get me wrong. There are bad people out here. Okay,
there are a bad men and all that, you know
what I mean. But it's a simple fact that these
motherfuckers couldn't even be honest about who they are.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
It was that poort.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
It was the line and minit late in the gas lighting,
the the.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Oh, it was just too much.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
That's what the That was the main reasons why they
did what them, women did what they did because they
couldn't even be honest about who the fuck they were.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
If they were at least that, Yeah, they would have
been upset for a while. Yeah, it would have been
a big fucking thing for as the family and everything.
But eventually I think they would have came around and
accepted him for them, for who they are.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
They didn't even give him a chance to do.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I don't I don't think. I don't think he was honest.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
They weren't honest at all.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Him and the brother in law. Yeah, I think they
weren't being honest at all.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, no, I think a cation. You serious, that's the
point of the gay cation.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
But hey, nothing be sub jet to gaycation.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I'm telling you, yeah, what about the fucking holiday? For real?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
We're gonna here and ends up the show. Anyways, I
want to thank you very much Shareff for listening to
the Jiveil Gloss Show.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
This man blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Right anyways, there, thanks for listening to the job Wlossie Show.
Make sure to subscribe to this show in your favorite
podcast app or listening to the man set up as
an episode for access to our websites to visit us
at joe velocity dot com. Thanks for listening and have
a good one.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Have a good night everyone, gay case

Speaker 1 (44:28):
That nothing beats it jet to you holiday and right
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