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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh yeah, welcome everybody to a brand new episode of
Spill the Tequila Here. Real good, gentle very excited to
be back for another Tuesday to talk about everything going on, well,
talk about things we want to talk about in the
world of entertainment and outside the world of the entertainment,
and of course talk a little NFL talk as well
here on the show. But I couldn't do it alone.

(00:34):
And joining me always on this show. Here is the
King of swag himself, Winston A. Marshall.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Uh, ship bro, it's been a day.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, my god, I just I just a lot of additions.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We're talking. Nah, come say I. Well, we'll see if
she comes in here, coming in you come in?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Man? Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
What's going on there?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
This so hard you hear?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Is that? Kristen? Who's that?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's okay, I'm gonna maybe I can zoom out. Let's
see that. You guys are gonna see my messy ass. Uh?
So she went literally come on, man, can you see her?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah she is.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So she goes there, she goes that's uh, that's that's
Asia Wolfson, the four time MVP Most Valuable Pup Bro.
She is she is absolutely awesome. We got her on Sunday,
so this is this is her being introduced to the world. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So cute.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
No, she's she's adorable. She also is kind of like
she reminds me of like a newborn calf. At times
we're like, we're like, we're like, okay, we gotta go
down the stairs. We can and she's like, I'm not
going down to the motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Like she just stares me.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
In my face like I'm not doing that, and I'm like,
come on, we gotta go, and then she tried. She's
like so a lot of times I have to carry
her down the stairs because she just doesn't doesn't get it.
She's she's she's she's a four, she's she's like, actually
she's actually an adult. But she was gotcha the rescue
we got her from. She was like astray. She was

(02:25):
a street dog, and so she's well trained, very sweet,
all that kind of stuff, but she is, you know,
kind of a biscuit hit sometimes. Yeah, we were we
were debating we were either gonna go with uh Asia
Wolfson wols I keep saying wolf Wolfson, or we were
gonna go after nine one one started Athena Grant so

(02:46):
we were going back and forth about what the neighbor
and we were like, yo, that the day we got
her was the day that Asia got her fourth m
v P were like, I feel like that's a sign,
you know, because.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
If it was a bull, we were gonna name him
Luca Doggite, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, so but uh but yes, Asia Asia Wolfson.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Uh that congratulations.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh oh partially too much work, you know what I'm saying,
just kind of all over the place. Yes, everybody keeps
thinking that was something Kristen was worried about. People thought
I was saying Asia, No Asia as in like the
basketball player A yeah, apostrophe j A, not Asia as
in the conte.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, Yeah, learn your w n B A people,
which is happening tonight the second game turing the Aces
and the Fever. People trying to pull it up set.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Try, but we got the four time MVP. All right,
both the pump and the player.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
All right, y'all, y'all like do a ship to the ices.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
If the Fever somehow get to the finals with out
Caitlyn Clark, goodness, gracious man.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, I will tell you this much. If they do,
I think it's not doesn't take away from Caitlyn's greatness,
but this idea like cause again I think where I
always got like a bit out of shape about how
this was going. There was all this rhetoric about how
she's basketball Jesus and everything else in the w is trash.
It just again goes to show that the Fever were
already a good team and she ended up being a

(04:17):
piece that did help elevate it. But like Aliah, Boston,
ain't no judge like she first first, you know, first overall,
pick herself and you brought other talent in, you got
a good coach, Like they are a good team. Caitlin
just makes them. It honestly reminds me of the Bulls
and how they were. That the Bulls were solid as
hell without Jordan. It's just once you have Jordan, then
you're in a different stratosphere.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, once you have Jordan, you can get to the finals.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Those Bulls without Jordan never made it to the finals.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
They got to the Eastern Conference finals, but never to
the finals, right, And that's the difference possibly when it
comes to this, But we'll see. I mean, Mitchell is
balling out, man, she is all out like crazy. So
it's been fun to watch her in Boston do their
thing and listen, they've lost what five starters throughout the year.
The fact that they're even the semi finals conference is
amazing and pull an upset on the road is amazing

(05:03):
at so many levels.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So no, absolutely, man, So it'll be it'll be really
interesting to see if, you know, an Indiana team can
finish the job or if they're goin to stelf destruct
like the the the m NBA counterparts.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, let's not hope for any Achilles tars they've had.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
At all, but just not getting it done exactly what
Once Tyrese went down that we're all the look was like,
oh so he literally was willing this to happen, and
the rest of the kind of looked like when Jimmy
Butler tried to beat the Lakers in the Pandemic and
it was Jimmy versus the Lakers. It's like, let's see
if this is the same thing, you know, or they

(05:38):
can finish.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, we'll see. And of course I think the WNBA
wants the Links versus the Aces in their finals, so
we'll see how if that shakes out that way. Because
Phoenix is no joke either. Even though they lost Game one,
they had Minnesota on the ropes for a majority of
the game, so yeah, they did. We'll see, we'll see
what happens as these things shake out best of five.
But we're gonna get to the sports stuff a little
bit later on in the show, and Winston just a

(06:01):
reminded everybody, though, please the stream lab supertests our open
sending you love, sending his thoughts and support and questions
that you have for us, comments and all of that,
because we want to answer them. But let's start out
with our big story here. Let's get to it right
off the bat. Here with one hundred and fifty people
joining us right off the bat, Jimmy Kimmel. More drama
going on with Jimmy Kimmel and Next Star and Sinclair

(06:22):
Broadcasting Group. Because last we heard yesterday, ABC had relented
after suffering a pr nightmare and the reactions from a
lot of people, a letter was written and sent out
by the ACLU with four hundred different creatives of big
big names signing on to it. Robert de Niro, Meryl Street,
Tom Hanks, the Kremlin Krame of the greatness of Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Signed that letter.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Basically going after Disney ABC for what they did, even
though they didn't mission ABC and Disney. But it was
said that Kimmel is going to come back tonight, well
this afternoon and this morning, both Nexttar and Sinclair issued
statements that they will not be carrying the post on
their stations. In this kind of hissy fit temperamental pouting

(07:05):
thing that's going on with everybody involved. Uh, and they're
gonna preempt it with news. You know, they'd promised to
Charlie Kirk special last week, which never happened, And so
now we're in this situation where it's a battle between
the local broadcasters and the national broadcasters. And it's gonna
be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
But this feels like.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
A lot of posturing Winston with people who can apparently
stand to lose money.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know, It's it feels very I can't remember you,
big South Park guy.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes, of course, you.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Remember the episode where Randy gets into He gets into
Broadway because he finds out that all the Broadway like
writers and directors are actually just like frat bros. And
they use it to like to crush push like and
so they're's like sub bro Sup bro Off, Sup, Sup
bro Sup. That's kind of what this feels like at
this point. Yeah, next, tartn Sinclair are in my opinion,

(08:02):
completely in the wrong. It's everything that's been said about
this was literally a push to crush freedom, freedom of speech.
It's something that has been the water has been tested
by this administration multiple times, and this just became the
minute this got so galvanized the way that it did.

(08:23):
This became their perfect opportunity to do that, especially when
you listen to what Kimmel said. What he said. He
didn't say, you know, this is some Maga nut job.
He said there has been a push from the Maga
world to try and blame this kid as much as
they can on the left and things like that, even

(08:45):
though his whole family comes from the Maga side of stuff. Now,
regardless of what his ideology said one way or the other.
He didn't then focus on the killer and he didn't
focus on Charlie. He focused on the fact that Trump's
response was how are you doing having lost your friend?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
He goes, oh, I'm doing fine.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
The ballroom's coming together. Did you see the ballroom?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
And the joke was ao, he's.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
In that final stage of grief construction. Whether you want
to call it a dad joke or whatever it is,
it was a joke, and it wasn't even anything going
directly about the tragedy of it, especially when you look
at the fact that Kimmel was one of the first
people to immediately tweet about how awful it was, yeah,
and sending his love and healing to the Kirk family.

(09:30):
So this was all posturing and another attempt to push
the envelope to see how much can we really mess
with shit? But people finally put their foot down. And
I think the only other reason that we saw this
happen is because I can't remember if it's next to
our Sinclair, but one of them is in the middle
of trying to fucking do a merger Nextstar is and
then they would end up they would go from having

(09:51):
some thirty or forty syndications or affiliates to a few hundred.
And that's why you even had I think it was
Elizabeth Warren calling it out, being like, that's a massive
problem because now you were literally the point of having
it be decentralized is so that you can't have a
scenario where now they own eighty percent of the affiliates

(10:14):
and they are able to just shut down programming how
they want. That's how you end up with state sanction
media specifically, and that's the exact opposite of what we want.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, And there's been a lot of confusing not confusing,
and there's been a lot of health shall say, biased
narratives that have been thrown out there about the whole
situation because you see the people who are part of
the MAGA crew being like, oh no, it's about ratings
and he wasn't talented and just echoing what Trump had said, right.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But the truth is a.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Number of executives at Disney who've gone on the record
and off the record said it had nothing to do
with his ratings. It was all about the fact that
what he had said had offended some people. They didn't
want any of the drama on the controversy around it,
so they made this decision. Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman,
essentially threatened their the affiliates with the you can.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Do it a hard way on.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Terrible all attempted to be in a mobster and that
ended up blowing up in Disney's face because they lost
what the four to seven billion dollars of evaluation over
the weekend because of this decision, And the affiliates are
going to suffer for this, because the ad revenue does
come from the affiliates to Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But also they're not.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Going to make as much money putting news programming on
as they would with Jimmy Kimmel. And I think if
ABC really had some guts in the in the whole process,
they would yank all their programming off those affiliates until
they put Kimmel back on. And let's see them try
to make their money putting fucking cable access channel shows
on there and infomercial shows on there, and see if

(11:36):
they can fill up the time. So to me, that's
the thing about this whole thing is that I think
Disney Disney's in an unenviable position. I said this last
night on the Hot Mike, like they're damned if they
do and they're damned if they don't. And I think
they should have just stayed the course, ignored all the
hype and the drama on the anger and all this
insensitive feelings and all this especially from the fuck your
feelings crowd, and just stayed, you know, like we're gonna

(11:57):
put the guys that write free speech is what Charlie
Cook Kirk stood for and said he stood for. So
let's not you know, let's not put this in another way.
But of course everything is a culture war. Everything is
an opportunity to grift from it. We saw that horrendous
quote unquote memorial that was essentially a rally over the weekend,
and all the political stuff that came out his widow aside,

(12:19):
which you know, was very difficult to see all of
that happening. I mean, the pyro aside, it was still
difficult to see what she was going through.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
But all the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
They used it as political rally to essentially launch a war,
you know. And so you see that, and so to me,
this becomes so much more than just Jimmy Kimmel being
taken off the air. This becomes Disney. It's very similar
to the don't say gay Bill Winston. Like they're caught
in this thing trying to play playcate both sides, and
they got fucked by because they because they felt the

(12:48):
need to choose the side when they could have just
stayed the course and walked down the middle.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You know. Yeah, And I mean I think specifically the
part that got the most interesting to me is the
fact that you did see some right leaning people like
the Ted Cruises of the World.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I can't believe you know again hell.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Reason over, but like the Ted Cruisers of the World
and the and the Tucker Carlson's that are straight up
being like, yeah, this is literally a direct assault on
the frist, Like if this had happened and Sinclair had
made a statement on their own and didn't have Brandon
Carr on a podcast being like, you can do this
the easy way, like if he literally not said anything,

(13:28):
this plays differently. But you literally are standing there with
a smoking gun. And so whether or not you're like, well,
that's not what I meant, it doesn't matter what you meant.
It's what it looked like. And you don't have any
any you don't have any good faith for us to
be like, you know what, maybe that was a mistake.
The only people that are saying that are the people
that are die hard MAGA folk that are like that
just will see no wrong no matter what, Like it

(13:50):
just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was a bad, bad effing move.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And you know, lord, and the only thing that's been
wilder bro is in between all the stuff about how
you know the raps apparently happened. I guess we're the leftovers. Bro,
We're still here.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So I wish it had happened one way or another,
like get rid of them or get rid of me,
Like I was cool with either way.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
You know what I'm saying, get me out of here,
but I get him out of.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But I went down unfortunately a rabbit hole of the
memorial of both a Erica Kirk coming out like everybody's joke.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Was she coming out like Goldberg in ninety eight? She
was trying like she was struck.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
All the fireworks and shit, yeah, her coming out and
people being like, wait a minute, bro, she won Miss USA,
a trump own pageant to do this, and then all
of a sudden she was working at this, and then
all of a sudden she like kind of met Charlie
at this, and all the conspiracy started going on, said, oh,
oh my god, why am I reading all this and
somehow being like was she a honey pot?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
What's going on? It's really crazy?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
And the new I think attorney general or lawyers he's
appointed in Virginia was also in the same beauty pageant
as her, and so it's like what is happening here,
and that he apparently was. That was when he was
going and walking in on these women and the team
pagants type stuff. You're like, wait what And then the
Charlie Kirk's dad is a guy who was part of
the construction who built the Trump.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Tower, And you're like, which is why? Which is why?
Once I saw this, I was like, you know what, Yeah,
I have never looked good in aluminum foil only where
for free Chipotle day. So let me just back to
what's important here, the whole point, and this is this
is what I actually get worried about. Yeah, a lot
of the stories that have come around the news to

(15:29):
just point out similarities of moments like this. When Putin
first ended up in power over in Russia back in
like the nineties, early two thousands, whatever it was, there
was a show like a puppet show on NTV yep
that would clown Putin all the time, right, but it
wasn't exclusive to Putin. They would clown whoever was the
president and or prime minister of the country at the time.

(15:50):
That was just what they did. And he got so
but hurt about it that he actually had an oligarch
that he was close with by the network, send in
state troopers and be like now, yell at Nune. You
can leave. You either agree to do the programming we say,
you get out. And so what everybody was pointing at
is the of all of the things that have been
have gone through, all the ice stuff, all of the

(16:13):
anti gay or trans stuff, any of the things that
you've been seeing going on for the last couple of years.
If you get to the point of the full on
general first thing that is promised as an American, the
idea of freedom of speech and that you cannot be
arrested or whatever else by the government for doing so,
this whole thing truly falls apart.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's done.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So that is why you have seen so many people
on both sides of the I'll be like, no, absolutely
not on that ship. You don't have to like Kimmel.
You don't have to find his jokes funny or support
anything he says. You don't have to do it like
the one thing about capital Society, put your dollars where
you want to see him. But the minute you start
doing this shit via the government, it's over, bro.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, And that's what you that's what you look
at right now.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
And I am surprised at how many any right wingers,
prominent right wingers have come out to say this is
the wrong move, this isn't what should happen.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
And already Brendan Carr back down and said, that's not
what I meant.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
You misread it.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
What I was saying, whoa, whoa, whoa see about a
hard way?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I whoa. I didn't take anybody licenses.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I just said there's an easy way and there's a
not so easy way.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, you either can renew online and you can go
to the DMV and you can wait in line. That's
an easy way on a hard way.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's just you know, you gotta fill more papers out,
That's all I was saying.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
People felt the need. And it's like, so what is
happening here, And of course Fox News without missing a
beat with like that's right, nothing happened here. Whire is
the left getting upset about freedom of speech and all
this gain, And it's like, come on, man, you all
know exactly what you were doing. And this gaslighting that
they do is just utterly fucking confounding on so many levels,
and because exactly this is exactly what they want to do,

(17:55):
and look, you bring up something that's really interesting, Winston,
when you bring up the Puppet Show and all this
kind of stuff. You know, because I saw the same
stuff earlier this week as well, and you're just like, well,
where where is the line? Right? And I'm glad that
people are pushing back here on this situation, but I
mean the things that are happening behind the scenes with
how much they want to control the narrative now and
control the media is becoming hungryer and hungry. Right Next

(18:18):
Star can say, well, we're we did this because we
want to curry favor to get this merger through.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
But once you curry favorite doesn't end there.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I think a lot of people, including Michael Eisener,
former CEO of Disney, came out and said this, like
you giving the bully your lunch money doesn't satisfy him.
It means he's going to come back for more and
read exactly and Next Star is going to find that
out themselves, like, okay, we curried favor with them always
going to want more and more and more. Sinclair is
already in the pocket for Trump, their hardcore right wing nutbelts,

(18:49):
so they want that kind of stuff to have, but
Next Star is a little more kind of not.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Quite there yet.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
So I just think this is going to be interesting
to see how this all plays out and the moves
that they're making, you know, because and if they buy water,
But if Warner Brothers gets bought by Paramount and Ellison
and he gets control of CNN, forget it. The only
people you'll find is on YouTube, you know, or some stack.
Do you watch?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Do you watch last week tonight?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh? John Olivery? Yes? Of course?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Did you see his bid on Kimmel? Did you receive
the one part where he's like, but see, fortunately we
don't have to worry about anything here because Warner Brothers
would never be bought. And then they play the Paramount
is looking to merge.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
With God damn, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
But I I that that is the ultimate thing here
at the end of the day. It's that exact money,
about the bout thing, about the bully taking your lunch money.
This became a problem the minute every single one of
these CEOs went immediately running up to go kiss the ring,
hand out golden trophies and and we're gonna do whatever
you say, and blah blah blah. And I understand in

(19:57):
order to move forward, whatever country you're working in or
out of, you do have to not piss off the government.
But the idea that they all kiss the ring set
the tone. At some point somebody has to put a
draw line in the stand and be like, nah, and
I hope the beginning part of that when you have
egregious things like the rating of the Hondai facility a

(20:21):
couple of weeks ago, and you're costing all these South
Korean workers that all are legally allowed to be here
with the permits that they have and everything like that,
and you're entertaining them, you're holding them a gunpoint, you're
throwing flash bangs and shit. I genuinely hope that that
company goes. You know what, we're done putting infrastructure into
into America.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, we're out that.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's the kind of shit that has to happen to
stop this just rampant rampage that is going on.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, I don't think it's
what a majority of the public of the country wants. Yes,
I love, I love you know. The right has their
stupid little talking points on CNN and Fox News and
all this kind of shit Oway and then all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
They say like, oh, well.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Half the country voted for this, more than half the country.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
No, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
They voted.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
First of all, half the population did not vote for Trump.
It was forty nine percent. It was different.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
His plurality wasn't the majority.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
And the other side of this is that the polls
show you that everything he's doing are not supported by
a majority of the country. So, yes, they voted for
him because he was talking about bringing prices down.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
They want to give him a chance. I'll totally concede.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
That, But I don't think people like in ninety five
percent of the people that voted for him, were like, hell, yeah,
do what you're doing. Disappear people off the streets, you know,
shut down free speech. Anybody who criticizes you gets in trouble. Like,
that's not what people want. We still want to be America.
They just want to be able to afford the stuff
so they can like feed their families and pay their bills,
and so it's so frustrating when you see all this

(21:47):
stuff happening. Right, people keep mentioning Project twenty twenty five,
that's for sure. I just hope the next time the
Democrats get in power, if they ever do get in power.
We don't start doing this bullshit that we need to kumbayau,
run a tree, fucking find our find the you know,
reach across the aisle.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
We only need to be doing that with.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
People who legitimately want to reach across the aisle. The
people that don't keep them out of the conversation. They
don't fucking matter. If you're not looking to compromise and
you're not looking to find middle ground, I don't think
we need you in the country anymore. I'm be honest
with you. Extremism on any side, I don't need it.
We don't need it. The middle needs to own the country,
and the middle needs to be louder and speak louder
and take control again because the two children are running

(22:29):
wild and you need the adult to come back in
the room and go like that's fucking enough.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Can I ask you a question, though, Yeah, do you
did you ever have an old as hell? Did you
ever have a stretch armstrong back in the day?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well, of course it was light.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
The reason I bring that up, though, is why hear you. You
gotta remember this, this stretched arm strong, that is this
country has been completely warped when you when you pulled
him too much. Yeah, not rubber band back. It's not
how that worked. And that's the whole thing. Nothing is
where it was, I think the true answer at this

(23:06):
particular point, there truly needs to be a real third
party yet that is the only thing. But that's the
thing I think at this point, because the Democrats have
moved so far to the right, they really are kind
of more sitting on that center and or kind of
center right type scenario. At this point, you need like
a true and I'm not saying you go far left,
but you need like a true left option where it

(23:28):
essentially it's the Democrats are kind of in the center,
whatever the Republican's on the right or whatever's on the left. Now,
I ain't gonna be the no Green Party because they're
not serious about shit Like joll Sein ain't been in
the fucking news since the election was over, so I
ain't even talking about that. But if there was ever
a point in time for another some sort of movement
of the people to really do that and think about
the countries that do have essentially like a three party

(23:50):
type of system and how shit tends to not get
too far out of control, because then it's a scenario
of like, well, now I really do need to negotiate
with different groups of people here versus you know, if
if you're rightly, i'm left leading. I've known Roca forever,
we've been buddies. We go back whatever, he'll do me
a favor. He didn't give a damn because then it
just honestly, they all feel like they're on one team anyway.
They don't genuinely feel like they're that separated unless it's like,

(24:13):
well I gotta play my part right now.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
And speak up, you know. So the problem is the middle.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Doesn't have a lot of vocal people because the middle
doesn't believe in doing that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
That's the that's the problem is nowadays the middle, the middle.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
The people in the middle don't want, don't like to
draw attention to themselves. That's why they're in the middle,
that's right, And that's that's my problem, right exactly. That's
the problem when you look at it, because people are
asking the chat, what's the middle. Here's the middle. Fiscally conservative,
socially liberal. That's essentially the middle. People want to let
other people live and exist, but they also want responsible

(24:50):
financial things being happening in the country. They want to
they want to to have good immigration reform, and I
think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Uh, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
But they also don't want you to be attacking gay
people and attacking the LGBTT post community and all this
kind of stuff and everything case by case basis a
lot people losing their fucking minds, like their pants are
on fire, okay, and you know, like, okay, how do
we deal with the transition?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Listen, it's less. It's one percent of the fucking country
one percent.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's that's why it's always into you know, it's such
stupid nonsense to hold.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's It's literally why it's been the most infuriating discussion
over the last couple of years is because you were
you were talking about a group of people that literally
are just trying to exist. They have not done anything
in any shape or form on that whole that you're
talking about, if anything, Every time you wanted to be
like oh you know, then you're just like you want

(25:44):
to be jk Rowling and be like, oh, they're just
going in the bathrooms.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
One there was a I cannot remember the stand ups name,
but I I couldn't see the perfect joke to do
it is like y'all really think that some thing like that,
that that the sign is what is stopping. Yeah, somebody
if they want to assault someone like you chase a
woman wruns ah though she was in the women's restroom.
I guess there's gonna be no for me today. Like, Yeah,

(26:11):
it's the stupidest thing that I have ever heard. And
to that point, because it is happening so infrequently, to
deal with the individual that actually is doing that shit
and stop trying to put everything on a damn community. Yeah,
if for for all of the uber Christians that are
sick and tired of all Christians being painted as some
sort of bigots, maybe stop doing that to other groups.

(26:33):
Maybe you stop saying that all the Latinos are are
criminals and rapists like like Drum wanted to say before.
So I'm saying all black people are thugs and they
thirst for violence, like that all gay people are grooming
for This is literally why we end up in this
stupid ass situation in the first place, is that you
want to draw a broad brush with everybody.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Uh, Tomas un fiscally conservative equals tax the rich. No,
it doesn't actually mean that fully. What it means means
is that people pay their fair share so that we
have the money we need for infrastructure, so that people
aren't living in ghetto existencies, people aren't living in shitty situations.
We have roads that can get fixed, we have things
that can happen, and we don't have rich people running

(27:16):
off through tax loopholes to make even more money, obscene
amounts of money, because that's nonsense. It's not the way
it should be happening. You can't go to church and
say whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers
as you do unto me, sing all the hymns to
God and Jesus Christ, and then turn around and be like, well,
fuck them, I'm going to make as much money by
raping them figuratively out of their wages so I can

(27:39):
buy my fifty foot yacht or one hundred foot yacht,
or seventy five fucking cars or my thirty five bedroom house.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Like that's not the way it works. That's not the
way it should work. We're supposed to take care of
each other and care for each other.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm not talking socialism, I'm talking humanity. There's a difference,
you know, and I think we've lost the extremes have
lost that thing because I go, I walk around my
town man very diverse, healthy white population, healthy Latino population,
Asian population, middle Eastern population, and we all hang out.
People smile at each other, people say hi to each other,

(28:13):
people hang out and have conversations.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Military, non military, it's great. That's America, right. What we're
seeing online, that's not fucking America. That's those are nutballs
trying to make money off art.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But that's but that's the problem. I was just saying
this the other day. At this point, you know, while
I love doing this and all this stuff whatever, the
Internet at this point is truly a mistakes. Like I know,
I know, it sounds crazy, and it's only getting accelerated
between algorithms and AI and the sense that we are

(28:44):
what these companies have been able to farm. Yeah, and
they say this all the time. If you're not paying
for a service, then you are the the commodity, right, Yeah,
so you're not. You may not be paying with money,
but you're paying with your attention, your time and anger whatever.
We are literally being farmed to be angry and to

(29:06):
yell at each other and attack each other. And the
more that that happens, you stop losing the humanity of
someone that looks different than you. And the reason why
people wonder like a magaphobe be like, well, why are
you all like the left always wants to attack drum?
You got trumped rangements it it's because listen to the
shit actually coming out of his mouth. How is anything

(29:27):
that's coming out of his mouth not directly divisive about
wanting to I would just knock him out. I would
punch him right there. I'd be like, boy like a fire,
that son of a bitch of fire like. He literally
spends his entire time antagonizing. And you want to be like, oh,
then you're soft, like he's just joking or whatever. But
if what you want is for people to talk to
each other like humans, you know how they say you

(29:49):
catch more flies with honey than vinegar. You are laughing
at the idea of someone taking a fire hose of
vinegar and spraying it at other people, and you're laughing
at that happening. You to not be able to see
that is absolutely crazy to me. But again, that is

(30:10):
what this algorithm, that is what the social media and
internet stuff has now become and we get to the
point where if you wanted to have some sort of
conversation about something where maybe I don't necessarily see something
like you if you've already come in and been like,
well look at this, and if we look at this,
what now, I'm already done because you're using dog whistle
terms to try and prove some sort of shitty ass point.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know what I'm saying, So understand.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And I've caught myself now recently, ever since the Charlie
Kirk assassination, I've just had a really different approach to things,
and I'm trying to tell myself, do not respond to
this person, do not post this stuff. And then sometimes
I'll just post something and then like a five minutes later,
delete it, delete it, delete it, and because in that moment,
O my god, but then I call I'm catching myself

(30:55):
more and more of the last few days like, get
off this Twitter, Get off this app, Get off this app.
Because what it has done is it is convinced to
me that if I'm not on this app, I'm gonna
miss out on things that are happening at that moment.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
And I've got to.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Break And this is the responsibility we all have, And
I mean I would encourage people to stop using Twitter,
to be honest with you, unless you're posting one thing
and then leave it. Because the more we show these
people that we don't want to use their products, the
more we show these people that we don't want to
be on there for hours and hours, the more they're
gonna want us to come back because they need us.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
That's the thing. People need to understand. We have the power.
They don't. The billionaires don't.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
None of them have the fucking power if we don't
concede and all these things that are happening around in
the country and the world. Like the reason I get
frustrated with the Trump is that not enough people are
standing up to stop it. And that's the frustrating part
of it. Now. The Jimmy KIMMELLL think is a great
example of people standing up in mass around the country,
around the world. Really And when I was watching an
Australian program last night. I watched this Australian program every night.

(31:58):
It's a very funny program where they have a panel gap.
It's very funny. They were complaining about the Kimmel situation,
like it made it all the way to Australia. So
to me, this is where people are noticing all this
kind of stuff, so they want to stand up and
push back against this kind.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Of stuff, like to take it a step further. Bro
And the think that we're having this whole UN thing
right now, and his speech today is I do everything
better than all of you. You're all shit countries. Like,
if you want to have a conversation about the UN
not really doing things and being somewhat of a joke,
that's that's a that's an actual conversation. I think we
could all have yea, because a lot of times it
is a lot of just kind of whatever. But to

(32:33):
sit there and tell every single one of these countries there,
all your countries are trash. Yeah, America is the greatest
that ever was. Look at how we're doing. The average
time for speeches is fifteen minutes. He took almost an hour.
It's that is the type of bloviating bullshit that people
look at and go, y'all are a joke.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, that's yeah. But I think the UN knew that.
If you know, if you saw the stuff today was
very funny. They turned off his teleprompter in the middle
of the speed. I thought it was good. That's I
thought that I thought it broke, and off, well, it broke,
and then when he was getting on the escalator with Milania,
it broke. So there's these little things that people are doing,

(33:17):
these little minute moments of protest, and I kind of
think that's a sign, right that people are getting a
little sick of it. And you watch Steven Miller dork
central over there at the rally, trying to use some
of Joseph Gerbel's actual words in.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
His saying, which is insane, Which is insane, right, But
this is what it is. This is what people need
to realize.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
They're all just bullies and they're insecure, sad, dork bullies,
all of them, he Seth car Trump, all of them.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
They're just dorks.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
They're really dorks, and they've found their way to convince
people that they're alphas and they're not. And if you
just push back, if we all push back and go
like enough, then they'll they'll back down.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They relent, because bullies always back down.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
They always back down when confronted with Fords and so
or with resistance or strong enough resistance.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And so I think we have to embrace that. Woman
Musk is a dork. They're all dorks, you know, but
they have us scared.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And the thing is we have to give our fear
over to them in order for them to scare us.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
And we have to pull that back now as a society,
I think. So we see.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I was going to ask you, man, what how old
are you again?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I am twenty five. I'm twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Five in all seriously, I'm not making a joke.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It doesn't matter, and I don't do it when we're
talking to so.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, the reason why I did it is because because
because I could, I know this much that you've got
I want to say, Steven Miller by at least a decade,
and he looks like he's three decades your senior.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
He's got that.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
That was That was more It is that he is
forty and he looks like he's seventy. Because you can't
carry that much.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Hate and have it not destroy you from the inside.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
And my guess is you're somewhere between the ages of
forty and fifty and you look like you're thirty to like,
that's that's that?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Like I was? That wasn't even me trying to come
at you like that.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
It was more from the standpoint of just look out.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
It just eats you away like a goddamn trader Joe's banana.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Bro Right, You're right, man.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
You watch the people who are hateful, they morph into
some of the most ugliest people physically. Because yeah, basically Palpatine, yes,
because it does affect you. It does affect you to
have that much hate in your heart and anger and
your heart and pain in your heart, and it changes
your face, It wrinkles you, It makes you haggard, it

(35:32):
makes you flip out. You know, it does all these
things to you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
What was the thing that happened at some point this
year where he went into a full on yelling fit.
You're not gonna I don't even remember it. I was
just like, bro, this this feels like uh, Denzel at
the end of training day, he's clearly lost it, and
everybody's like, yo, bitch, as like, I can't believe we.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Were ever worried about you. It's alphabetic, but it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
The end of wonder Woman, Right, we all have to
kind of wake up and go like, oh my god,
aries Eddies has made us do this and be at
each other's throats.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
We need to break out of the spell, be done
with it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Laugh at these people again like we used to these
fringe conspiracy theorist psychos.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Laugh at them and push them to the edges again.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
We have let the cockroaches not run when you turn
on the light, and we have to stop doing that.
And I think if we get together strong enough, when
enough people get say enough is enough, then I think
that's where it's going to turn it.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Because this idea that people are.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Waiting to be ruled by this authoritarian dictator in this country,
they're out of their minds. If you think the military
is just in mass going to turn on the public,
their own fathers and mothers and brothers and sisters and
friends and workmates, you're out of your fucking mind. You know. Yes,
the former J sixers are running around as ice doing
the things that they're doing. Fine, but like Major But eventually,

(37:01):
if he ever turns the military really on the American public,
I think he's going to find that a lot of
military aren't gonna want to go along with it, and
that's going to be a real wake up call. I
don't know that much about the police, but having served
in the military. I know there's a lot of good
hearted people in the military who don't want to do
things like that and abuse their power against the American public,
you know. So we'll see anyway, Kimmel's on tonight, Go

(37:23):
see Kimmel, see what happens and whatever. I'll have a
reaction to it at some point either to Yeah, probably
tomorrow morning. So all right, We've on to this other thing, man,
real quick, wrest The prices are going up on Disney. Well,
what the hell is as if there wasn't enough drama.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Going on now they're hiking their prices? Is hiking their nonsense?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
They're out of their mind. I'll be honest with you.
If they wanted to do this, this needed to immediately
be postponed. It needed to be postponed for at least
a month or some change. You were in the middle
of this scandal, and you think it's appropriate to raise
your prices, especially when you had people boycotting you to
go now, f this we out You think this is

(38:04):
a good move?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Are you out of your fucking mind?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah? The standalone plan with ADS will increase by two
dollars to eleven ninety nine a month, and then the
premium plans will increase by three dollars to eighteen ninety
nine a month.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Some people are like, it's just two or three dollars,
but all of them are doing it. So if you
started out with these streaming services at a certain amount,
now everyone has been increasing. Paramount Plus, Peacock, Netflix, Apple,
They're all increasing across the board, So it becomes a
situation an HBO Max is goddamn insaints well over two

(38:40):
hundred dollars a year for HBO Max.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Which is well, that's why I'm locked in right now,
and I don't know. I think it's for the year,
but I got a double check. I'm locked in into
like a bundled deal yeah, of HBO Max, Hulu and
Disney plus right, which is the only reason that like,
because I was willing to be like, nah, you can
go ahead, cut this off. But I didn't want to
lose this deal because I figured this, if it wasn't

(39:03):
gonna blow over, then I would have to think about it.
But I had a feeling I was like, let's wait
like a week or so without trying to be like
a tool, because it's I got all three of them
for sixteen ninety nine right now, you know what I'm saying.
So like, I'm kind of like, I just need to
I gotta, I gotta. I can't.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
The new one. I mean, I tried to watch the
pay per view over the weekend, the wrestling pay per view,
and I have the ESPN app.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But apparently, and I did not.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Know this, there's ESPN Prime and ESPN Select and I'm
ESPN it's Select, and dude, like to Prime, I was like,
you motherfuckers, you motherfuckers? Did you?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Did you? Did you watch the newest season of Black Mirror? No?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I have not yet.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I know you told me why I've not got that.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
At bare minimum, It's all really well done. At bare minimum.
I need you to watch just the very first episod
of the new Season's got Tracy Ellis Ross Rashieta Jones.
It's literally the premise of it is a woman dies
and they get this technology in her that actually keeps
her alive. But the technology is owned by a Phartasumical

(40:16):
far a pharmaceutical company that has gone into.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
The subscription service.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
So they literally, at any point in time could limit
how much she's actually able to be out and about
throughout the day. They could send ads to her brain,
like all of this random shit and it is so dark,
but that is Black Mirrors always been very good about
taking technology and essentially showing a dark version of where
we're going. And it was mortifying, but it was so

(40:44):
spot on.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
What was the one from two or three years ago
or two three seasons ago where it's like she put
her soul inside the thing or whatever, and it kind
of I.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Think there was a couple of them, but there was there.
There was also the most the season before this one,
the opening one was Joanas as the Worst or Joana's Awful.
That one was about a woman who sold her life
rights to Netflix and so Netflix was using AI to
essentially play her life out, so like she was cheating

(41:14):
on her husband and so then play she was played
by Oh my god, what's her name? Uh, super hot
Somemaayak a hyak, Right, so some hiaks are cheating on
her husband. But it was literally the exact same first name,
last name. People going bitch, that was you because oh
my god, so her life was falling apart because her

(41:34):
life story is being fed to the AI machine and
rat Oh my god, it.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Was so good. I need to catch up on that
on this stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I wish I could find which one it was, but
it was a I think John Hamm was in it.
I think John Hamm was in it, but I'm not sure. Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I mean there's there's a couple. I mean there's one where, uh,
I don't want to ruin it, but essentially, yeah, I
don't want to ruin it because if I do, I
would have to give everything away. But the name of
it is White Christmas. Oh okay, yeah, that one specifically,
but I don't. I don't want to ruin specifically what
it is because it is that's the thing. Black Mirror

(42:12):
be going there, bro it, they'd be going there hardcore.
Oh but dude, they took them badersnatch. I'm so mad.
I just found out about it this morning.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Why why did they take that one down?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
It was the interaction it was. It was the interactive
special that the Netflix did. It was like an interactive
game where you were, like the way you used to
do the Choose Joe to Venture books. You would choose
decisions for the main character to do, and depending on
which you chose, you can get yourself killed, You get
yourself sucked in a computer forever. Like it was all
the ship. They took it down. I'm so upset about
that ship. Man, it was so good.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, wow, all right, I need to kind of take
a look at that one too, right, because they took it.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
You said they took it down.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Now they took it down. So I don't even think
it exists anymore. That there are people that were essentially like, well,
you know, if if you find the file for it,
here's a program to run it on your own. But yes, no,
it was. It was awesome. It was oh so awesome.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Man, you need to watch these I need to get on.
I need to go on a run avants. All right,
so we'll see what happens to Disney Plus. Everything's raising prices,
but it's the wrong time. People are jumping ship like
Howard Stern. Since the NIXT, a lot of people are saying, like,
we're canceling our Disney Plus subscription, and so maybe they
lost so much money, I know, so I wonder if
this is not the right time or they thought will

(43:22):
since people are canceling so much, the only way they
can subscribe back again is that heay more, maybe they're
doing that, but that could blow up in your face,
you know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
So we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But we do have some comic book news to get into,
superhero news to get into, and that is that Spider
Man has cast. It's Tombstone. Marvin Jones the Third will
play the crime boss Tombstone in spider Man Brand New Day.
Of course, there's a break right now because of the
concussion that Tom Holland suffered on set, and we send
our well wishes for him to get better and feel
better because concussions are no joke. But they have cast

(43:56):
Marvin Jones the Third there to play Tombstone. And some
of you maybe like, wait, I've heard that name before
connected to Tombstone, and yes, because he has voice Tombstone
in the Spider Verse movie, so he is going to
be part of the Brand New Day situation.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
So, uh, Tombstone.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Do you like this as and as one of the villains,
because I don't think he's the main villain, But do
you like him as one of the villains here in
Spider Man to Day?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I do, especially because you're trying to take Spider Man
and make more of the.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Street level heroes.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, and the stuff that's kind of going on, we
don't need everything to be a colossal world ending event.
We don't need everything to be a universe ending event.
Like the Spider Man is arguably the most popular superhero
on the planet outside of like Batman for a reason. Yeah,
and it's the same thing. It's interesting to see Batman
rub shoulders with Wonder Woman and Superman and stop dark Side,

(44:47):
but it's far more interesting to see him try and
deal with the Joker and whatever insanity that's going on.
It's the same thing. So I love it.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And specifically Marvionchone's the third.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Did you watch Black Lightning in the day back in
the but it was on good dude, his Tobias Whale.
Holy shit, he he would say some of the most
racist shit because he was he was playing in albino
and so he was like a self hating kind of
black And it reminds me of like if Uncle Ruckus

(45:18):
was a super villain like it was. He was so
so good. Yeah, And so I don't think he's gonna
bring that same particular character. I don't think that matches here,
but the same mobster energy will be there. Yeah, that
I'm here for. He is very very good at playing

(45:38):
that role and playing it well, this is.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
A fantastic rise for him because if you look at
his resume, he was an uncredited guy in a number
of films Collateral uncredited, American Gangster uncredited, Harry's Sorry, Django
unchained uncredited, South Paul uncredited, Bleed for This, another boxing movie,
uh uh with What's Miles Teller uncredited? And then Spider

(46:04):
Man into the Spider Verse is the first time he
gets an actual credit as Tombstone, the voice of Then
he does some TV show and then goes right into
Black Lightning in the same year, and then becomes established
through Black Lightning and then onto Halo Equalizer, All American Homecoming,
uh and and a film called Shadow Force earlier this year,
and then boom right and then.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
This will this will most arguably be probably the biggest film,
the biggest role that he's played. Not that not that
Tombstone wasn't a big deal. And into the Spider Verse,
but as far as like on camera, you know what
I'm saying, this will then take him to that next level.
Oh snap, Okay, yeah, so I'm really I'm always love
to see it, man. I mean, now, the thing is,
if I remember correctly, he is I want to say

(46:48):
a rapper Crondon and that was kind of like his
main thing beforehand. But he then ends up going obviously,
and it has been it has been kind of shifting
over to you acting like this, and this is really
taking him to the next level and I love to
see it.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Man, he's from La too.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Okay, Yeah, he's ghost written for let's see. According to Wikipedia,
he goes written for Snoop Dogg, doctor dre Exhibit big Geronimo.
He's written for a lot of people, man, So yeah,
good for him.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Snoop Dogg. Damn all right, expect for him. Can I
tell you something. For a moment, I thought it was
the receiver and I'm like, wait, he's coming into receiver,
Marvin Jones, He's coming into acting.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh yeah, no, not Bengals receiver. Hey man, tell Marvin
Harrison and learn how to catch balls.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Come on, bro Dere Derek Henry had to hold on
to them.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh well, maybe we should make the segway. Now let's
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Let's move into the NFL Week Week four here, uh
or sorry? Week three that just went down finished out
last night with the game between the Ravens and the Lions.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Damn good game.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I lost my fantasy because Lamar Refew used to throw
the safe flowers. The Lions marched into Baltimore got the victory,
arguably the premier game of the weekend. But what a
bunch of madness that went on this weekend with special
teams blocked field goals. The Browns of I know Matt
Thomas upposed to be dancing a jig today, the Browns
beating the Packers in that shocking victory, the Steelers almost

(48:21):
losing to the Patriots, the Eagles pulling out a victory
of the Rams when they were down seventeen points in
the second half. Like amazing stuff that happened throughout the weekend.
And then the new three real quick Jackson Dart will
now be starting for the Giants. Russell has been four
games in three Geople.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Wow. Anyway, Well, because the team started zero to three
and you played terrible in two of the three games.
The only one that you actually looked good is because
the Dallas defense was so bad you were able to
put up four hundred plus yards in like five touchdowns. Yeah,
so it's just you don't have the sauce anymore. So unfortunately,
that's kind of it, and it's funny because I was

(48:58):
of the mindset of like, don't put Dart in yet,
like let him learn some and you know, if you
need to switch switch over to Jamis. But there was
one of the one of the former player, one of
the talking hands on first take, who was like, but
here's the problem. If that's what they were thinking about
doing in the first place, then you don't elevate Dart
at the end of the preseason to the number two quarterback.
Skipping him now feels weird. You should have put him

(49:20):
at three to start, and then if you're done with Russell,
then you move on to Jamis.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
And let this kid continue to learn.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
But you know, the only thing I worry about is
that if he really does have the sauce like that.
I mean, look, I'm not looking for the Giants to
be good, so he cannot. That's fine by me. But
if we're just talking from a non biased standpoint, if
the point is for him to grow, you don't want
to put him out there before he's ready. And then
I've been a situation where he learns bad habits, yes,
or he or he loses confidence and then he's not

(49:47):
ready to go. Like I think about most of the
people that have been successful in this modern era. There
are exceptions to the rule, but like Patty sat behind
Alex Smith for like a year or so, Jordan Love
had to say, behind Aaron Rodgers for a little bit. Yeah,
you know, all of those situations. Now, some of them
are able to figure it out, like Baker Mayfield unfortunately

(50:08):
like had to get his licks and almost got bounced
out of the league, but was able to figure it out. Now, yeah,
you know, so it can happen, but it's typically better
to give you an opportunity to wait. Because even though
Caleb Williams had a great game, Okay, again, we've just
talked about how the Cowboys defense is dogshit, so this
doesn't spell anything, and they're still a concern that if
he's not able to put this together continuously, he will

(50:32):
develop bad habits and fall off and all that kind
of stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
The midfield throws are still not great from Caleb. Even
in that victory against the Cowboys, he was still kind
of overthrowing people, under throwing people. The long ball was there,
but the long ball's always been there for Caleb. So
this could either be a legitimate victory or fool's goal,
to be honest, because that Dallas secondary is just it's
just not good.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And it's it's well, it's for two reasons. One, you
got to see I don't think they realized how how
much Micah was covering up. And then on top of that,
your two premiere corners have either remain hurt or have
not been the same since they got back. You just
paid them a bunch of money. And then what Bland

(51:14):
is still hurt and and and Diggs just wasn't looking
good and that, But a lot of that was because
when you had the pressure from Micah, they didn't have
to necessarily hold coverage nearly as long as they could
be a little bit more bold with what they were doing.
But now that you have no pass rush and you
got all day give a receiver and then next thing,
you know, wide open like why every time? And and

(51:35):
it happened all three games. Jayalen didn't even throw it,
but then you had both Russell and Caleb throwing.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
All over you. Yea, So.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
How much stock do you put in Danny Dimes? I mean,
like Daniel joneses he I mean they have not played
great team. So is he reborn or is this a
little bit of like, yeah, let me see what he
can do.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I still stand by the only decent team that they've
beaten is the Broncos, and even then, whether or not
they're good or bad, you can't tell. There was a
lot of talk about them being a dark horse favorite,
no pun intended to go the distance, but at least
to have a high seed in the playoffs and all
that kind of stuff. But I think the true test

(52:17):
is like playing the Rams. I think that's the first
in LA, so that's like your first solid opponent here.
Raiders are kind of nih, Cardinals are kind of nih.
And then again coming back to LA and playing the Chargers.
I think those are your two major tests in the
first half of the year here to see how good

(52:38):
the Colts are. But I do think you got to
keep it a buck. Jonathan Taylor is a monster, you
know what I'm saying. And the one thing that Danny
Dimes has been good at and we could say this
back when he was in New York, when you had
someone like Saquon running the ball the way that he was,
it allowed Daniel Jones to kind of happen. Now they
got to worry about Daniel Jones. So all of a

(53:00):
sudden they got to worry about Takuan. So now all
of a sudden he can throw stuff up or he
can go and break off that that's what they think.
I can't believe the start of calling a white Vic
For a minute, that was that was insane. But because no,
he is not as fast and does not have as
much of a candidate as Mike Vic did. But they
are such a.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Balanced pass and run attack.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, he looks great, but again I agree with you,
wait till you start playing a solid team that can
stack up points and has a good defense. And the
Rams and the Charters are great examples of that. Yeah,
I was half tempted to drive up.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
I was going to reach out to Barbarian and see
he's got an extra ticket. I was gonna go up
and watch him play against the Rams, because I I
you know, as much, I've never liked Daniel Jones, but
there's something about cheering for somebody who is getting a
second chance and bouncing back and taking advantage of the
second jet. It kind of wins me over. So there's
a piece of me that was.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
But you know, do I love him enough to spend
hundreds of dollars for a ticket.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Maybe not, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Go look, I'll take a look. We always try in there,
We always try to go to one game of year.
Maybe maybe we waited. I don't know if the Chargers
have gotten way more expensive. We used to be able
to get nosebleeds for Chargers for like seventy bucks.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
If if we're able to pull that off, man, bring
your eyes up here, we'll know dat and ship.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Let me know.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Look going to that game.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Bring the old man in there.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, literally spilled some tekila. How about that shit.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
While we're doing the game.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Maybe maybe we do. Maybe we do it for the
parking lot.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Bro we out here spelling it. Look at the President's tickets.
Hold on, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
More.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, but I thought I thought it was. I thought
it was.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
This is one of those weekends that happened in the
NFL where you're like, this is why you love the NFL.
This is exactly why you love the NFL, because no reason.
There was no way the Rams were supposed to lose
that game to the Eagles, and they did. There's no
way the Buccaneers were supposed to come back after after
Aaron Glenn and the Jets got that great block and

(54:59):
touchdown on the field goal there and and you look
at the Jaguars. I mean, now that what we were
talking about last week, bro the Texans and c J Stroud.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
We got outstart having the real conversation about c J.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Stroud and I finally started hearing some of the analysts
say the same thing that he's regressing and we may
have just seen the best of c J. Stroud in
the first season and these last two now might be
like him just going back down to earth and not
being able to sustain being a number one. And DeMarco
Ryans might get fired as well as the coach of
the Texans. So it would weekend, Yeah, that would that

(55:32):
would suck.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I mean because the funny thing is like the weird
charge Cedars Stroud at the same time, like looking at
him so far this season, I mean, look, he's still
got almost six hundred yards and three games. Yeah, so
he's you know, he's sitting at sixty four percent completion.
You'd like that to be a little higher, but like

(55:55):
he's in a way, he's bawling. The problem is he's
just making two many bad mistakes that are overshadowing what
he's doing either either throwing balls away or taking unnecessary
sacks or then when you're the least can can deal
with that, you know, like what, he's taken eight sacks
already this year. Yeah, you know, and he's already thrown

(56:17):
three interceptions as well, so he's got a two to
three touchdown a interception ratio. So it's just not it's
just not going the way that they were hoping, you
know what I mean. And you know, but I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Let's deal with the Ravens, dude. Last night, I mean,
Lamar was getting chased all over the place. That O
line could not block the Lions, and then that defense
was was dogshit because the Lions two separate drives of
ninety five yards each. That's unheard of against the Ravens.
I think it's not since like the late nineties early

(56:52):
two thousands that that has ever happened to the Ravens
and the Lions Marton to Baltimore won that game. And
now you've got Derek Henry with full, You've got Lamar
looking like he maybe has lost a half stet that
extra burst that he needs, and you're gonna have to
start having questions about these Ravens and that I'm not
ready to believe that, but I can see where people

(57:15):
are coming up with that stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I'll be honest with you, I actually don't think it's
as much and I hate to say this, I don't
even think it's as much Lamar and all them. Yeah,
I don't remember who I heard say it, but they
were like, I think the window of this combination, so
Lamar Harball, I think Harball is the issue.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Oh, I think.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I think from the standpoint of Harball's teams have always
as pretty much how the AFC North has gone. Yeah,
all of those teams tend to be hard hitting defenses first,
and they have over the years kind of developed some
pretty strong offenses. But that's the thing. Your strength at

(57:57):
this point is your offense. It is you know, the
fact that Lamar can put up four hundred four touchdowns
one on the ground, like almost a one hundred QBR
like that is who you are with the Derrick Henry
who's known as King Henry, and I get they're making
mistakes right now, so we got to put that on
the But like I think it was the game against Buffalo,

(58:19):
they were talking about the fact that again the stronger
side of the ball is your offense. You shouldn't have
punted it and given Josh Allen time to go and
do what Josh Allen was gonna do. You should have
given the ball to Lamar and let him go do
what he does best, because that is your strong hand now.
And so I think it might just be in the
same way that I honestly think I really like Jim Harball.

(58:41):
I love Mike Tomlin. They both have won what two chips?
I think they both won two? Or did Tomlin just
win one?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
And I.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Yeah, Andarball's won two one I think only one.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
As well, because it was Bellick who was the coach
when they won.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, okay, he's won, so he won the one. John
Harball won the I kept saying, Jim, I met John
was confused to him. John won the one that was against.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
The Niners Colin Kaepernick super wow.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Uh huh and then uh and then and then Tomlin
only won one.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Right with Roethlisberger. He only won one with Rots.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
But but Roethlisberger won two.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Oh yes, yes, because one was under Bill Cower, which
was the first.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Okay, so he was he was an assistant coach then
and then he won it as a head coach, but
he is he so, but well, that's fine, we'll keep
it at one. Like we'll just say that as.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
The head coach, he has a head coach.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
As successful as both of them have been, we've gotten
to a point where you haven't gotten over the hump,
and they seem to kind of be making a lot
of the same mistakes you dug in on in this
case with with Tomlin, you dug in on this old quarterback,
and Aaron Rodgers is like, Okay, you can show you
a couple of flashes, but like he's not really he's
nothing what he was. Yeah, and clearly his like the

(01:00:02):
Steelers defense isn't really what it was anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
That steel Curtin idea is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I'm not even talking about the old school stee curtain,
but like this era that he has had has just
been gone. And John Harball his defense isn't really what
it used to be. I think it might be time. Honestly,
you might wipe the whole coach, the all four head
coaches of the AFC North. I think a shakeup is

(01:00:27):
coming soon because none of them are really owing up
to the legacies that they are and I still think
that the talent you have in Baltimore. Yeah, you just
need some sort of shake up to get them over
the hump, you know what I'm saying. I think whatever
message that John Harball has been trying to get in
there clearly isn't enough anymore. And you and almost in

(01:00:50):
the way of like, well we tried it, we tried it, okay,
bringing Steve Kerr, sorry Mark Jackson, Like you did a
good job of Klan laying the groundwork, and then you
bring in Steve Kurr and they become vote warriors, Like,
hey man, you know the Bulls are doing well. Then
you bring in Phil Jackson, they become the Bulls. I
think it might just be time for that. As sad
as it would say to see either of them lose their.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Job, Yeah, yeah, you might not be wrong, man, to
be honest with you. And it's a scary situation to
see so much change. But they've been there for so long, man,
you know, especially Tomlin. I think the Steelers fans are like, look,
it was great, and we respect what you did, but
like we're getting a little tired of just getting into

(01:01:30):
the playoffs. This is a proud franchise that's about winning titles,
not just getting into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think what they have to look at it as
both the organizations, but even these coaches. I think you
got to think about it the way that Andy Reid did.
I think, like Andy Reid had a lot of success
with the Eagles, but they really couldn't get where he
needed to go. Yeah, and then they mutually decide to
part ways. He goes to Kansas City and he is arguably,

(01:01:57):
like people like to throw it out there as he's
the greatest coach of all time is what they like
to throw in the mix with the amount of success
he has had in Kansas City, let alone the success
getting to Super Bowls. In Philly, you didn't win, but
you got there. But then in Kansas City you won three,
You've been to five, you went to nine straight AFC

(01:02:17):
titles Like that is insane, you know what I'm saying.
So especially since Belichick fell off so hard. Look, if
Belichick hadn't fallen off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
So hard, you know, it just occurred to me if
you were talking, you know, would be amazing Tomlin and
Harball switched traded for each other, that would be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I don't think either organization would be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
With that, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Tomlin coaching Lamar, sign me up for that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Bringing back the steel curtain to the to the Steelers,
sign me up for that. I'm in for that. So
it would be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Very fascinating if they switched jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I was pissed. I wanted Tom to come to Dallas,
but Jerry would never have allowed that ship. But I
think Toman already doesn't necessarily want to talk to me anyway.
Let Jerry say whatever the fuck he wants, and let
Toma go run this ship, you know what I'm saying,
and and bring that kind of hard hitting mentality down there.
I also think that what some of the other teams
that I think having them go there would really help

(01:03:16):
out a lot. I genuinely think that you could send
either one of them to the Giants. I think that
that would be. That would that would that would be
They both would be great up there. I'm trying to
think what other teams right now need a coach. I mean,
we'll see what Shanahan. He keeps breaking all his players
like dude, which I want to do a minor plug

(01:03:40):
I'll talk about a little bit later. So, So my
girl and and her friend, they're in they're in a
fantasy league together. They've started a podcast and so they
do this actually kind of amazing segment called the Zaddy Corner.
That's where they say that they they go and they
talk about the head coaches, who's the Zaddy or the Faddy.

(01:04:00):
And the first fall in Zaddy was Kyle Shanahan because
they were like, God, damn, bro you look like you've
been president for the last eight years. Why did you
get so old in two years? Like some retinall dudes,
some retnall and some sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
You're trying to win with Brock Perdy and constant season
ending injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
That's gonna age You're like crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
But I've said this before. I don't know if it's
him and how he's running the team, or if it's
how San Francisco has put together the training staff. The
amount of injuries that happened on that team is unheard of.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, Bosa out for the year again, Bertie with the
turf toe, Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
What that? And then the year before Deebo was constantly hurt.
Debo seems pretty fine with you guys so far? Uh
auk auk Yeah, hurt dealing with that ship exactly, and
also correct me if I'm wrong. Was Shanahan with Washington
win when y'all broke RG three?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yes, yes, because it was his dad who was coaching
the team, right with Kyle who was there as an assistant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
So that my whole did you just take up after yo,
daddy and you're just out here breaking your people? Because
like what is happening? I don't I personally don't get it.
And I'm not saying you don't play hard, you don't
give one hundred percent all that kind of shit. At
this rate, now it is only a matter of time,
you know, knock on Wood because he's spent half of
his career essentially out. But you're now having to funnel

(01:05:30):
everything through CMC because Mac Jones is fine. But again,
you gotta run it back like that. It's only a
matter of time that this this workhorse that has already
been worked to death. Yeah himself gets injured again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Like, yeah, they won the game, but they didn't crush
the Cardinals like it was one point or whatever. So yeah,
Mac Jones fine, but it's still sixteen to fifteen. That's
an embarrassing amount of points for the forty nine ers
to score, you know, with the amount of weapons that
they had with McCay. Look, they we gave the Brian
Robinson for God's sakes. You know, they've got things they

(01:06:03):
can do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
But I mean, you look at look at it. Here's
the receiving core.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Ricky Pearsall, what Kendrick Bourne, Jake Tongus, sky Moore, Marcus
veiled as Scantley who I think was the Packers last year,
and Kyle Juici that's there and McCaffrey of course that's
their passing cores. And look shout out to Ricky getting
a hundred seventeen yards. But still that's just this is
not a top of the line receiving corps that they
have right now for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Because you're because you're because essentially two of your starters
in and Jennings and and Ayuk are both out for
that however long that they're out. Yeah, and Pearsall they
took him in the first round for a reason, so
he's showing up the way that he should. But it's
essentially Pearsall and McCaffrey because you're you're, you're. Your most
targets weren't to McCaffrey with fifteen and he caught ten

(01:06:49):
for eighty eight through the air and then parasaol eleven
targets eight for uh, you know, one hundred and seventeen
over eight. You know what I'm saying, and you're just
working with what you got.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
It's true, so we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
All right, We're coming to the end of the show,
so let's jump into some questions here before we get
out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Where are they at here? Comments?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
It is questions? Got it all right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So if you want to send in your questions, now's
the time stream Lap super chats. Send them in if
you want to keep us talking about stuff. Dennis Hoppmans says,
just sending support. You fellows are great, Thank you, de Thanks.
Cody Bishop says Sinclair Next Star should be looked at
as monopolies if Dems take power back, But we all
know how Dems don't like to make waves.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
So I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I wish I was. I wish I was a politician
and a powerful DEM because I would absolutely angle to
get in power and just shatter these.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Monopolies and all the whining and crying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I would just told them, tell them to kick rocks man,
just come after them like Teddy Roosevelt did busting up monopolies.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Man, study that presidency.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
The worst, the worst thing that could happen right now
is if Paramount actually does absorb Warner Brothers. Oh yeah,
like that would that that genuinely would be one of
the worst things ever because you're going to talk about
god knows how many layoffs, right and let alone because
Sky Dance CEO has been very vocal about how he
is very conservative and very promaga and we'll pitting stuff back.

(01:08:16):
It's literally why the only thing that stopped South Park
essentially was you know, and they they pulled reruns of
the Charlie Kirk episode, even though Charlie did himself he
thought it was hilarious. Charlie openly was like, now they
got me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
That was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
South Park isn't going anywhere, but like you know what
I'm saying, they're about the only one that can kind
of get away with stuff a little bit with with
the Daily Show. But we'll see how long they allow
them to kind of do what they're doing. Right, No
more mergers. Enough with these damn mergers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Bro, I agree, Bro, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Kind of Bishop, what is the middle John sort of
anti trans.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
No, because why what the fuck. I just don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
It's got nothing to do with you. It affects your
life in literally zero ways, zero ways.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Look up the court. How many court.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Cases did you find a trans person in the bathroom
assaulting anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
It's literally nothing. And so it's just it's crazy how
much people have made this a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
The middle is let them exist like they let you exist,
and stop fucking with them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
That's the middle. Stop messing around with them, let them live.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Leave people alone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
People alone alone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
They just they're just like you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
They're trying to pay their bills, They're trying to live
in a crazy country.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Find love, to go on vacation, you know, have a kid,
have a dog, you know, enjoy the beach, like I leave,
Leave people the fuck alone. Just leave them alone, yeah, exactly.
Just be nice to people and just live and exist.
And yes, some people are going to commit crimes. Some
people are gonna do crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
That's life, you know. And to try to legislate against
it all the all the time, it is madness because
you know how many straight people be committing shit more?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Which is that that's people? Please, I don't even want
to get into a Charlie conversation. But even the last
thing he was talking about, the question that was asked
is you know, do you know how many trans people
were involved in mass shootings?

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
And he was like too many? And everybody start clapping.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It was like, okay, well, of the five thousand or
whatever the number is, it's been five. Yeah, but does
it It doesn't mean like, yes, any shooting. It's too
many shootings. But if we're genuinely going to talk about
this number again, an insignificant number compared to the field,
shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Literally going after straight people. We should be going after
straight people for all the crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Their commission should technically be straight white men based upon
literally based upon when you look at the actual numbers
of how often it's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
But it's ridiculous to do that, And that's the whole
point that Winston and I are saying, straight white men
are trans. It's ridiculous to do that kind of you
want to, of course, you want to put rules in
placial regulations in place and all that kind of things,
but to think one particular group and and the lowest
percentage arguably of people in this country, that's the ones
you're gonna target. It's nonsense, it's utter nonsense. It's just

(01:11:11):
billionaire's fun culture wars to not pay taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah, probably code a thousand roga one thousand percent. If
we're too busy fighting, it is so easy for someone
to run. Like if we're literally in the middle of
the street throwing bricks at each other and screaming and
all that shit, it is so easy for somebody to
break into our apartment take the ship they want because
we're not paying attention.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Absolutely, And they.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Have and they find willing people like Benny Johnson to
essentially have a billionaire put his hand up his ass
and have him say the things he wants them to say.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Because they pay these fuckers off.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
With Russian money or American money, whatever money it is, allegedly,
and all that kind of jazz, you know, and because
they and they jump at it because they want the fame.
Chris Corkor and the Zora and Mom Donnie Victory and
in New York City shows the blueprint for the damn
Schumer and Jefferies can't even bother to endorse him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
We need new leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Clearly, the people are speaking about what they want and
they're just choosing not to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Yeah, it's a little for even Kamala last night wasn't
a full endorsement.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
She's like, I'll support the Democrat in any race, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I know the answer, but I don't want to talk
about it if I'm being honest, like I'm read between
the lines, but there there is a very specific reason
and I'm just not going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Oh yeah, well, yes, I think you're one hundred percent right.
Uh fantastically. Fourteen says, well, that's why Roca is the
Satin Latin.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Oh, thank you, Fred, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Very kind of you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I think that's about not the Satin Latin.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Cody Bishop says the dam's old guard are too corporate
for change.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
I don't disagree. I think they all need to be
thrown out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I think you need to elevate the squad, elevate Mamdannie,
elevate all these.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Younger people come in. We need energy. This is what
happened with the thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
People Democrats' understand, the old school dem is like, this
is what happened on the right. The young people were
coming through MAGA. Now look this is the old Trump
through's in charge of it. But like the young people
coming through, they saw the movement, and they overpowered the
older establishment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
The younger Democrats, the younger leaders.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
They need to do that, overpower the older establishment and
get them to shut the fuck up and get them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
To fight for God's sakes, because this is nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I just the only other thing that pisses me off
is that you can sit here and have like where
where I think that the Democratic leadership is totally failing,
you can have someone like Laura Lumer going around talking
about it hurts my heart that we have ghetto black
bitches who are hate America serving in Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I mean her, of all, Who is she to judge anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
At anything at all? I've heard like again, let's let's
let's let's be real.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Yeah, freedom of speech. So yeah, she technically can say it.
How's a right to say it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yes, that being said, it is hateful and divisive, and
so the fact that Democrats are not speaking out against
that type of shit more right, and having Jasmine's back
and letting her take all that shit by herself is wild.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Yeah, I agree, I agree, it's very well and have it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Oh, Glarissa didn't know. Yeah, Laura Luma tweeted out a
couple of days ago, she said it hurts my heart
that we have ghetto black bitches who hate America serving
in Congress, and then tag Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
A woman of incredible accomplishment, much more accomplishment than Laura.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Lumer, one thousand percent more accomplishment more. I ain't done
nothing but be a side hoo. It's what did I say?
That's wrong? Roca? Look, if she want to be a
side piece, that's humidness. I know a bunch of very
successful side pieces, all right, and that's what she wants
to do with her life.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Yeah, he's the only reality show Master's McCall says, w
W is stupid going to ESPN plus not getting the
ESPN Plus. I'm canceling Peacock and Regal plays pay per view,
so I'll watch them there and need popcorn for hours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Did you hear? Did you hear that they apparently gave
like a kind of a middling review of this Triple
A was apparently pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
I'm sure he was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, Yeah, three stars. I think they gave it. Jack
Smithson's do you think these late night hosts see the
writing on the wall with legacy media and are planning
their next moves into the YouTube slash podcast space, go
independent like Conin and control their content.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yeah, probably true.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, I would say so because you know the numbers
have gone down with viewership, but you know they're getting
paid really, really well. But I do think they see
the future here and where, and you always want to
make plans to stay successful in this business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
So yeah, real quick, I decided to do a quick share.
I just wanted to point out something we were talking about,
that hate eating Awa age of soul. Oh, Laura Lumer
is thirty two, Jasmine Crockett is forty four. Yeah, Laura
Lumer literally looks like she like she's like the teacher
that's been at the school for like two decades and

(01:15:53):
Jasmine just got out of college and it's like the
new teacher on the block. Like that. It's that kind
of age gap shit, you know what I'm saying. It's
like it looks like Laura used to babysit Jasmine when
she was in college and and and Jasmine would have been, like,
you know, in middle school. That's the kind of device
and they are. They are literally the opposite as far
as their ages. That shit is crazy. Hate eats away

(01:16:16):
at your soul and you start to look like Palpatine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Chris Corker is a Stephen Miller.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
What do you have?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Hair?

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Oh nice? I like that. Mad At the movie says
some support for two of the best been loving the
Demon Slayer reactions. Winston, what's the chance Hall or John
Cameo in Peacemaker, Hal Jordan or Jon Stewart.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I feel like relatively low.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
I think if anything, you might get the justice ging again.
I don't think they're going to introduce anybody like new
like that. I think that that doesn't really seem like
gun style to do that. Yeah, but I think that
they're I think everybody's right. I think this is Earth X,
and I think we're gonna find out. I think we're
gonna find out this week, you know, because someone someone

(01:17:10):
essentially said I saw someone be like, I don't think
Judo Master is making it out alive. I think Judo
Master might be the first casualty, like as soon as
he ends up in that world person of color, I
was not even that like, I won't say that the
super offensive one, but I guarantee you somebody's gonna go
who let the chotamen in here, someone is gonna say

(01:17:32):
that ship and it's gonna get ugly fast, and then
all of a sudden he's gonna realize, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I shouldn't be here. And it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Michael from The Geek Buddies, the show that the show
that I'm doing here. He suggested something I thought was
really great, Winston, is that they might have a Superman cameo.
But it's not David corn Sweat from the Superman movie
we saw. It's the Superman from that universe and Peacemaker
killed that Superman and I was like, oh, oh shit,

(01:18:01):
that could be interesting as ASMANI which is why those
three guys are in charge of all the crime and
stopping all the crime. Interesting that they killed Superman, and
that may be why he takes all the pills and stuff,
because if it's guilt of what he did participating in
the killing of Superman.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
We'll see Chris Cochran the coments going full Willard hit
I made a huge mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Good point one last uh super chat here for now,
and that is Julius Wyatts and how CMC. The only
point that that's got unscathed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
That's that's a really good question. That's a really really
good question.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Don't put that out there, though. Don't put that out there.
You might get injured this weekend. Knock on wood. All right, Fantastic.
We've got some stream labs that have come through as well.
On's let's answer these and get on out of here,
because I got it ready for creating myself. Fantastic says,
what's up game time? I mean tequila spillers. H Well,
now that my cowboys are in their annual washprints, repeat mode,

(01:19:08):
I could focus on important things like how embarrassed is
JJ gonna be on Sunday and which head coach is
getting fired first?

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
My pick is Brian Dable. Well, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
And because I don't think the Jackson Dart move is
going to work, so I'm sure he'll be fired by.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
We'll see, man. I mean, Skataboo was actually pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
He was good. His own mom shouted him out on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
That was great, the like he's which is funny. I
saw the funniest tweet where someone said white running backs
are super rare, but they come in two different varieties.
Either the most cerebral person ever and just like making
all sorts of crazy cut seeing holes or they ate
a lot of crayons as a kid and they just
run right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Through Like Mike Alstott was what was the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
What was it Pettits that ended up on the Madden
cover that played for the Browns? Was that his name?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Yeah, ship that was that was a corn fan, white
boy bro. He was bowling ball of a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Human just running through people. Man Scataboo. Scataboo is crazy
good man. So like I that's that's kind of scary.
I don't think he is a Saquon replacement, but he
is very good in his own right. And if Dart
is even remotely what they're hoping he is, yeah, I
wouldn't even this doesn't sound crazy. I wouldn't be surprised
if the Cowboys end up fourth place, the Giants somehow

(01:20:30):
sneaking the third. If the Jackson Dart experiment actually works.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Was it? Catean hillis Peyton hillis? That's what hillis? Right?
But Peyton hillis bro. That was a bad white boy bro.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Peyton would know joke he got that money and then
fell right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
It was the dude. It was the Madden curse. It's
always the Madden curse.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
The other way, because you guys had Moose. Johnston was
a was a beast back there. I liked him fantastic. Also,
what movie I had? Probably the worst? What movie is
probably the worst you've seen, but are shocked that some
people refer to it as likable minus streets of Fire?

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
How fucking dare you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
My never one worst movie I've seen, and that includes
the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie. Love My Dudes, Thank you,
Fred uh So, worst movie You've ever seen, but are
shocked that some people will refer to it as likable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Worst movie I've ever seen? I don't, I don't. I
don't know about that movie you've ever seen that people
people like it, though you can't understand why you like it,
why they like it. I'm not gonna call it the
worst movie I've ever seen. I think that that's that's wild.
But I think that Avatar is overrated. No, no, no, no,
I'm serious. So I say to that, I think it's okay, fine,

(01:21:42):
I think it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
I generally think it's it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
The the thing about it that is so this is
incredible is the technology and the cinematography work, but the
actual movie is fine, and yet the way that it's
being treated like it's the second Coming of Jesus in
movie form that I don't understand personally, But that's but
that's me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I feel that way about gone with the win.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
If we go with the classic one, I don't get
I like that movie, but I'll say BBS.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
BBS is a terrible movie, Pete, but YEA love it.
They do love it. Oh God, I love BBS really, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Legitimately there are people who legitimately love it, and they go,
you gotta see the unlimited one like the uncut way I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Have, and it's significantly better. But it's not. I'm not
I'm not like WHOA like?

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Yeah, yes, I just it's not a good and I
love Man of Steve, but BBS I cannot. I cannot
get on board with it. Samuel says, Hey, y'all, what
were you all thoughts on RFK junior statement on the
cause of autism. As someone who is autistic, I find
it disgusting and frustrating that some folks like him think
autistic people like me should be second class citizens. I agree, brother,

(01:22:58):
it was it was ridiculous. And here's how you say
the word for his other buddy there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
A cinema, say that as ask to Fennamon cinnamon, ask
the cinnamon a centiment of a cinnamon of Diego. Hey, Hey, dude,
I hope tilent' sus the ship out of the government.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
I hope so too.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I hope out of the government. Bro. I hope they sue.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
RFK Junior is so bad that he is like having
to serve lunch in a cafeteria like I to pay
bills like it's so I want Cheryl hines in like
potato sacks. That's what I want, because this is madness
to me on so many levels. It's so hurtful the
way doctor Oz was talking down to pregnant women, and
so we to stop gasling them, like men should not
be deciding this nonsense. You fuckers don't go through any

(01:23:45):
of this stuff. So to sit there and try to
tell what you know what is best for women, it's
just utter nonsense. And the autism thing, of course, and
the tilet all of that is just so utterly stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Utterly, absolutely crazy man absolutely crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Biden trips over a sandbag and it's a national fucking emergency.
But we watch these guys like almost every day, look
like people who are completely not there, not all there,
and yet nobody makes a big deal. It's crazy to me.
Dog Developer says, watch the ed Gain trailer and I
can't help but picture high school Roca jamming to the
Pet Shop Boys on dance floors with chicks. Roka, any

(01:24:22):
cheesy eighties new wave hits you Una, bachelorly love think
cheese like kids in American obsession? What I'm so confused
by this question.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I'm not familiar with Pet Shop Boys. I've been told
about it twice now, I want to say, on capes
and cows, and I still haven't listened to them.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Oh you mean oh he's okay. So oh you're saying
because they use that song on the trailer. Oh I see, yeah, right, Chris,
that's a serial I'm not a serial.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
It was never a serial killer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Nor was I dancing around to bet chop boys. But
he's saying, if you, if you, yeah, yeah, the pet
chop Boys are big in the eighties, of course, yeah.
But I wasn't on many dance floors.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
How much of a dancer.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
I was pretty shy kid. No, No, I can a dance.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Okay, that's not that's not but that I didn't mean
that you can't dance, but you're not a dance like
you're like, nah, I don't really do that. Like I
can do it, I don't want to do it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
I don't necessarily jump up and do it. But it
wasn't until later in life that I actually get on
any kind of floors.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
But no, like it's a it's the same thing Brogan like,
I don't like to fight.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
I can. I like to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
You know what I'm saying. I actually loathed doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But if I got to throw out, I gotta throw out,
Like Bruce Lee, I don't want any.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Did I say it on this show? I don't remember
what it was, but I would Jackie Chand the whole time.
I don't want travel, like to beat your ass. I
didn't know what travel is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
He's the best eighties new wave hits you on the
National Lib. First of all, nothing is cheesy about eighties
new wave.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Let me put that on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I love eighties new wave, and I love the retro
the retro new wave that has come out of the
last few years since like the movie Drive, I love
retro new wave. There's YouTube channels that have like hours
and hours of retro new wave music that I just
put on while I'm writing or playing a game or
focusing on something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
It's great. I love new wave music period. Oh and
I've been told that it was this show. You did
this a week ago, Winston, I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
I don't know what trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Mike McKenzie says, Hey, guys, just another day, just another
donation of John's pre order for Ghost of Yota. Oh thanks, man,
I'm expecting a review from you when you finish it. Mike. Absolutely,
thanks for cluing me into it. I did not know
it was coming out next week. I'm crazy excited for
because I can't let go of Ghost Sushi. I'm like
broke Back Mount with Ghost Sushima. I can't quit it.

(01:26:46):
I've now started a third campaign. I've never done that
in a game, but because I love playing it so much,
you know, So, Yeah, I can't wait for Ghost of Yotay.
I'll absolutely review it on my channel, Winston. That's all
the stream Labs super chats. Anything more you want? I
want to say here as we wrap up, brothers, I
know we got to get going.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Just just take care of each other, man, Like I
think I really am so afraid right now personally because
it feels like people are further and further disconnecting from
each other. And I think the more that that happens,
it really will divide us enough to continue to be

(01:27:24):
manipulated until there's nothing left. It's it's it's that's classic
military strategy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
One on one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
You you you stick together, don't allow yourself to get flanked.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Like just this is this has got to stop. It
has got to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Get off the internet, Go touch grass, go go go
join a rec league, Go join a sewing club, go
to a park and we'll play with dogs. I don't know,
but just remember that other humans are humans.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Yeah, And I think another thing is that you know,
there are these groups that people get together that deal
with like feelings of depression, anxiety or loss or fear
of the world. There's a lot of local in your
local town. There are centers, there are people who have
these meetings.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Go be a part of those meetings.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Go meet people, and you're going to see people from
different walks of life, different ethnicities, different social strata and
economic strata who come to these meetings.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
And there you can like fall back in love with humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
And I think it's important because we've become so hateful
that we're not focusing on the fact that everyone is
just trying to survive, and we need to come back
to appreciating that and not let these loud minority in
terms of the amount of people try to turn us
against each other.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
We've got to fight back against that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
So yeah, great points.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
When's some great words out there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
All right, that's our show for today. Thank you all
so much for spill the tequila fans. We appreciate, love
you all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Winston.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Tell them, are they going to find you what you
got going on this week? Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
You can find me at the Swaggy Blurred yesterday or Monday.
As I do of the Blurred Breakdown, I've got a
out of the theater reaction for uh, what was it? Death, Death,
Death and Death Dead of Winter, the new Emma Thompson
movie that's dropping just a little bit? I did?

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
It was dude, it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Was good, Oh good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
I loved the trailer. It was good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
It's I will I will say a little slow because
you got to build it up somewhat, but great emotional payoff.
Judy Greer took it to another level, so really really
good film, so that that out of the theater reaction
will be out soon. Blurds in the Hood tomorrow. It
I can tell you ahead of time. It is a
pre tape because Jay has got a show uh in

(01:29:42):
I think San Diego. So as soon as we wrap
up here, we're going to pre record the show for
tomorrow Friday, Capes and cows again Christian Harlow, Channel, myself,
Christian and Chris carr uh and then guys you got
you guys did it, but you got to keep the
support going. We're going to continue the Demons Layer journey,
so I'm going to be recording another like what, we

(01:30:02):
got four episodes done in one day, so I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Another back to the beginning of the show and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
We had never seen it, so we're watching it from
the beginning. So you and Christian and I, yeah, we're
doing Christian and I are watching it. So we're what
since we're able to essentially get four in a sitting,
we're about to do the next eight episodes in the
next two days. So again for us to continue to
do it, we just need people to continue to watch it.
So please, if you're a Demon Slayer fan or an
anime fan, comes support and watch those reactions as well.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
And that's everything for the time being.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
There you go, all right, respect see block Watson to Roca,
was that pick of Doom with a scar reel?

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
I think it was Ai.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
I don't know if it was real or not, to
be honest. So as where you can follow me at
the rocas says on Twitter, Instagram, all the social media
subscribey on below.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Guys, we're so close.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
To forty thousand. Please help us get across that line
so we can start marching March into fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
We'd appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Don't forget Tomorrow, We've got another episode of the Geek Buddies.
We're going to be reviewing the Alien Earth finale, and
then we've got Hot Mic. It'll be on Friday, Hey,
this week at noon. Put it on the calendar Friday
at noon or sorry, nine am, Friday at nine am
because we've got a lot of stuff going on with
Jeff being in Boston. But yeah, we're gonna have more
Geek Buddy stuff as well. So we just kind of

(01:31:12):
tune in for the rest of the week and we'll
talk to you next time and next week with another
brand new episode.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Here the spill, the tiki that we love you, Take care,

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