Paramount Plans Bid to Buy Warner Bros, James Gunn Reveals SUPERMAN Sequel Details

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of
The Hot Mike here on the John Roka Channel. I
am John Rokan, joined us always by the Insider himself,
Jeff Snyder on an early morning. How are you, Jeff?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hello? Oh Johnny boy, I just woke up.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
H'mana umana. Well for those of you are joining us,
thank you so much for coming on here this early
in the morning. Usually we do it, of course, at
four pimpete on Thursdays, but we had to adjust hi
because Jeff is heading off to a big screening and
we couldn't go because I have other shows tomorrow night.
And to be honest, this kind of worked out for me, Jeff,
because the Commander's playing the Packers tonight, so I can

(01:07):
watch the full game with I worried about the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
What what?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
What film are you going to see? Can you tell people?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Or no? I can. I am seeing Hulk smash the
Smashing Machine.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh, getting to see the Smashing Machine, the litterally get
to the Rock, the Rock in his in his a
full glory there in the film.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'll be curious to hear what your thoughts are. Are
you gonna post a review.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
By Jane Johnson now his friends DJ, so you know,
I think that's what it was. At the last episode
he heard that I called him DJ and he was reminded,
Oh yeah, this guy's a friendly except right, well, what's
the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Are you gonna put your review of tonight on the
newsletter or what? When people say tomorrow? Like when you
when's your review going to go up to?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know, whenever I need content, baby, I expect to have.
My newsletter is done except for the A story, So
I just need to I'd like to review the Long
Walk first. I have more to say on that one. Yeah, man, today, dude,
I thought I thought that was going to do well.
It's not tracking on that anime movie is gonna fucking

(02:07):
shit all over it.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh yeah, the Demon Slayer one that's looking at seventy
million dollars, that's craziness.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That is crazy. I mean, who would have like accounted
for that at the beginning of the year. It really
goes to show like the influence that anime has on
you know, younger generation of moviegoers. So yeah, Long Walk
is looking at like ten million. But I do have
I do have more to say about that one, So
I'd like to review that Corse smashing machine.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
We'll see right on, right on, Yeah, yeah, was it?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I don't know if it's Saranders or one of the
Netflix executives came out and said how much of their
cons like fifty percent of the views on their content
as anime stuff, So that tells you the power of
anime for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Assume it's Netflix, given how well Monster Hunters did exactly. Yeah,
excuse me, all right, yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Right, Well let's move on. We got so much to
talk about here on the show. And remember the stream
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help and support us as we go along. We've got
a lot of stuff to talk about, so here we go.
Jeff Superman's talk about it. We had some updates from

(03:13):
James Gunn on Man of Tomorrow. He was on the
Howard Stern Show, who I think he's leaving, not leaving.
I don't know what the update is on the series
XEM situation, but he gave some more updates on the
Man of Tomorrow, and he said, quote, it's a story
about Lex Luthor and Superman having to work together to
a certain degree against a much, much bigger threat. A
lot of people already speculating that it could be brainiac.

(03:34):
Some people have also thought zod and he said, it's
more complicated than that. It's as much a Lex movie
as it is a Superman movie. And this is supposedly
starting to shoot, he said, in April or so, it'll
start shooting of twenty twenty six, but that is also
when the rumored the Batman Part two film is supposed
to be shooting around the spring of twenty twenty six.
So your thoughts on his comments here, anything new, anything

(03:55):
interesting to explore here? He is calling it a Superman sequel,
So what are your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I would about to go Lex Luthor on Christian Harlof
because he has done is he is having his listeners
spam the chat. That is what's going on right now.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
John, That's all right, that's all right. I don't mind
it because christ is Butz and ball. So anyway, keep going.
We're alive and we have over two hundred and fifteen people,
so I'm good.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Go ahead, go ahead, Chris, this is Let's Luthor's army
of Twitter Monkeys. Yeah, Man Man of Tomorrow. I think
we all kind of intimated from the art from Jim
Lee that this was going to be some kind of
team up movie. Uh. You know, interesting that he said
it's as much a Lex movie as it is a

(04:42):
Superman movie. Yeah, maybe that was part of the promise
all along to get Nicholas Holtz on board.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, the promise. Yeah, there was gonna be
more focus.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
He even said in the interview with Howard that he
identifies more with Lex than he does with Superman, which
I think about James gun.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know, and you don't say yeah, yeah. I mean again,
I'm not really up on Superman comics, so I don't
know about the plot lines where Superman teams up with
Lex Luthor. It seems like a weird team up, but
I guess, you know, they could use each other if
there is a bigger threat, which I think most people

(05:21):
assume is going to be brain act that's not earned
at this point, it wouldn't shock me to see James
gunn zag where everyone thinks he's gonna zig. But you know,
we've yet to have like a braining act on the
big screen, right, So no, we haven't.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, I just think it's fascinating that he's finally
calling it a Superman sequel. I'm wondering if Zaslov gotten
new ears like will you stop? Will you stop? It's
a Superman sequel. People are going to see it this way.
You got to promote it this way. And I have
to believe that he's going to change the title the
Superman Man of Tomorrow, because they they've changed titles before.
It was Superman Legacy became Superman, it was Supergirl Woman

(05:56):
of Tomorrow based on the graphic novel. Now it's a Supergirl.
So I don't think it's out their own possibility to
change it to Superman Man Up Tomorrow. What do you think,
Jeff Crazy?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I completely agree. I never I don't really understand it. Yeah,
you know, it's all about branding. It's not called Hobbs
and Shaw. It's called Fast and Furious presents Hobbs and Right. Right,
that's right. I don't know. That's just always the stuff
that I go back to simple.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Even the national lampoon stuff. Right, it's not called Christmas Vacation,
it's National poons Christmas Vacation, Rational Lampoons, Van Wilder. Yeah,
branding is very important. Well, I we'll say this the
other element of this stuff, and this is I heard
some from some more sources this week about the Peacemaker
set with James Gunn and it's you know, some of
the stuff that we've suspected is there. Unfortunately that there

(06:45):
are issues on the set sometimes with some below the
line people versus above the line people. And that's a
shame to hear about that kind of stuff. But what
you want is good product, and hopefully this sequel will
be something good. Peacemaker, I think is a little bit
underwhelming this season, but hopefully it'll get stronger as things
get revealed. But is there anything here that you were

(07:06):
surprised by or hinted at or anything do you hear
more about?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I had said earlier, I believe on this show that
that production was going to start in the spring, not
the summer. I know Nexus Point News had said it
was going to be the summer, but April is the spring.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So is there anything about both those things starting at
the same time Batman Part two and Superman starting at
the same time. Should we read anything into that?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No? No, Okay, no, not at all. Okay, all right, so.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
We'll see, we'll see what happens with that. And you're
not hearing anything more about casting any more about characters
or anything on the DC side of things for this film, Nope.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay. I did a story about Skyler Gizondo this week about.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Him and Robert Pattinson. You want to talk about that
they're in a movie together.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right, He's joining Robert Pattinson an a twenty fours Prime
Time This is like a to Catch a Predator style thing,
So I think you can maybe intimate what role he
could have and is perfect for something like that. Yeah,
but I do think that you'll see, you know, Jimmy

(08:11):
Olsen in the Daily Planet crew covering the events of
Superman or Man of Tomorrow. Excuse me, Yeah, I'm sure
he'll be back for the sequel.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, and of course James Gunn also set out that
Rachel Brosnahan will be back to be a big part
in the sequel as well. So yeah, it's a set
calling anything else, it's a sequel. I was one of
this story Brian Fuller was talking about, you know, ten
years ago, after ten years rather of Hannibal creator Brian
Fuller helps to revive the series the Hannibal series with

(08:44):
an iconic leading lady taken on the portrayal of the
major character, and the iconic leading lady is in Deya.
He wants to bring her on to play Colarice Starling
and bring Mad's back to play Hannibal Elector. In a
limited silence of the Lambs series, he said, if I
can put anything on the universe, it would be to
put that out into the universe. Jeff, your thoughts on this.

(09:06):
I feel like you've been going back and watching some
of this stuff, so timing seems interesting. Do you like
the ideas and dais Clarie Starley? Do you think this
happened or is this him just kind of having fun
on a on a press line tour.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I love it, Yeah, I love it. I have an
item in the newsletter about it. I spent the summer
reading these Thomas Harris novels which I had never read.
I've read all the serial killer stuff I never read,
you know, his stuff, and I was blown away, like
it was so good. Red Dragon and Sounds, the Lambs
were amazing. Hannibal was really good too, And so I've

(09:37):
been talking to to Jamie about doing lists because and
the reboot is inevitable that this is part of the
MGM deal that Amazon, you know, acquired, They got the library,
and they're absolutely gonna do something with Sounds of the
Lambs one day because it's such a valuable ip. Serial
killers are hotter than ever right now, horrors hot. You

(09:59):
can call the cycle logical thriller, but whatever. And so
I've been thinking a lot about who would play the
new lecter, who would play the new tooth theory and
Jack Crawford and all that, and Zendeia I think would
be excellent casting as Clarice. What did you think?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm kind of on the fence about. Hey, I don't
think she'd do it because it's a limited series. In
Zendea's up in theatrical world. I'd be very surprised if
she would come down and do a limited series at
this stage in her career and the amount you'd have
to pay her, would it be worth it? Because I mean,
Hannibal was a hit, but it wasn't a hit, Like,
it wasn't a massive pop culture type of thing, but

(10:34):
it was. It was hit for what it was. It
just wasn't a massive hit. So I'd be surprised she
do it. I mean I saw someone in the chat
say Clarissa. She said, Kaylee Spainey. I think that fits
more for Clarice Starling in my mind. Then again, Zendea
is a good actress, so I could be convinced on this.
I'm more out on the Mads Michelson is Lector type

(10:55):
of thing. I mean, the way Anthony Hopkins played Lecter
on screen. You know what I'm saying. I just don't
know if i'd be But I know he's got to
stay loyal to Mads, but.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't I don't know like that. It would be
like Fuller was talking about limited series, because that's what
Hannibal was right the series on NBC, like different limited
series almost you know, tackling different books. So he you know,
season four of the show was supposed to be The
Sounds of the Lambs, and that is what he envisioned
her for. I think she would do a limited series

(11:25):
at this point. I don't think it's like beneath her
or anything like that. Really, I do think that it's
that these books are more likely to be rebooted for
the big screen.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, wouldn't you rather see that? I'd be down with
that zindas Glory starling at the big screen. Hell yeah,
sign me up.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, Now, I don't again, I don't know that they
let Brian Fuller take control of that movie or if
they cast Mads again, they probably reboot it entirely. That
That's why I imagine it will be a full reboot
of the IP as good as Mads was in that role.
So then, yeah, like I do think she'd be more
likely to do a movie obviously she has a relationship
with Amazon MGM from Challenge Challengers. Yeah, it's just like,

(12:07):
who would you cast around her? But I think she'd
be a great anchor for it, and she could definitely
play Lurie. Doesn't mean Kaylee Spaney's not a good idea,
right Yeah? Yeah, she doesn't put butts and seats necessarily,
and Cloris is your lead, right Hannimal Electrics only on
Speen Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So Yeah, I love this comment from this guy, Mana
Maleki left my Ass song? Do you know this? In
Days only part of on some of these big movies,
she has never led a big theat I mean, I
think that's so asinine to look at it that way,
because she has been building this to these moments where
she will be and she has been a lead in
movies and so making the lead of a big theatrical

(12:43):
movie is kind of the next step. And that's how
it works in Hollywood. For people actually study Hollywood, study actors,
see the progression of actors as they get bigger and
bigger and big part of bigger and bigger projects. She
led Challengers, that was her leading the leading Challengers exactly,
and you put you put her. She's essentially almost the
co lead of the last Dune movie. So this has

(13:06):
been building. So I just think it's kind of asinine
to not understand the progress of an actress and an
actor as they build to this moment where they would
lead a theatrical movie. That's kind of how it works.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Would be it would do a good job playing the
Clarise that Jodie Foster played. Yes, I don't know that
she would put her own spin on it in the
way that Zindea wouldn't. I like what Brian Philer had
to say about exploring race right and Claricea's race, and
I think it would be fascinating to see how Lecter
would play on race and try to exploit that to
his vantage somehow.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, he says he's still
going at it. You know, at first it was a
hard note that it was asking us. Later that it
was asking us again next year. It would be fantastic
if they agreed. And yeah, having a race play a
factor in Claria's background in a way that race plays
a factor in everybody's background. I think that would be
an interesting exploration of the character. And I applaud Brian
Fuller for speaking of about that openly, because nowadays everyone's

(14:02):
crazy about DEI I really appreciate that Brian spoke about
it openly because it is something that factors into situations
and it'd be foolish to ignore that. So yeah, I
agree with you. I think you know, I think it
would be interesting explorer. But I'd rather see it on
a big screen. As we were, as we were mentioning earlier.
All right, anything more on this, Jeff, So we move on.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I think we can roll.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Let's roll this. So, speaking of horror stuff, how about this?
David F. Samberg is set to direct an Amityville horror
reimagining for Amazon MGM Studios, following his video game adaptation
of Until Dawn, he has inked the deal. Sandberg has
to tackle another beloved genre poverty, that is Amityville Horror
for Amazon MGM. So, uh, do you like this situation?

(14:44):
Do you like him being the one they choose to
take Amityville horror? And is there a real clamoring from
ambity Horror reboot reimagining Jeff.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, yeah, no, there's not. I was never an Amityville guy,
and I liked I grew up on horror like that
was my thing. I just gravitated towards those movies. Didn't
really love the Ryan Reynolds one. Now it's kind of
become like a schlock franchise, you know. I don't blame

(15:13):
Amazon MGM for wanting to take another stab at it.
And really, again, that's why you're buying MGM is to
exploit the IP and horror is has never been hotter,
so now is the time to strike. But I would
have tried to get like an a tour more on it,
like an ariaster type, or maybe have developed someone Sandberg.

(15:37):
His movies just don't do it for me. Like I
didn't care for until Dawn. I didn't. I don't really
love like the Shazam stuff like he's he delivers slick product.
But I think if you're looking to really like reinvent
something and put like a fresh spin on it, He's
not who I would go to.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, it's a weird situation because they redid it to
years ago, if you guys can believe that with Ryan
Reynolds and Melissa George back in two thousand and five.
And I thought that was a bit of a reach
for Ryan to try that, but clearly it showed that
he wanted to expand what he could do as an actor.
It didn't get received that well, And I agree with you.
I don't know if there's a clamoring from Avineville Horror,

(16:17):
but if you look at how the conjuring has done,
maybe if you go that route, that kind of energy,
that kind of vibe, that kind of approach, maybe the
Amityville Horror reboot or reimagining could work. But I agree
with you on Sandberg, very very hit or miss. And yeah,
I mean the first Shazam certainly a lot of people
liked it. It was sweet in that second Shazam, and then

(16:38):
you know, other stuff he's done has been quite as strong,
So you wonder if this is more they feel like
this property isn't that strong, so they can safely put
him on it and see what he could do with it.
But they don't lose anything putting him on it and
seeing what he can do, because if he does do
a good job with it, then that's they make a
lot of money off of the situation with that with
less cost being put into it. So yeah, it could

(16:58):
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I feel like they could have hired somebody cheaper and
just like more exciting, like you know, younger and more potential.
And I don't know, Sandberg's had a few bites at
the Apple and it just hasn't really connected with me. Yeah, yeah,
all right, well there you go.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, speaking of the Conjuring as I was talking about,
how about this story about James Wan Jeff, Apparently James
Wand might be moving on from the Conjuring franchise. Here
he's only directed of the first film and it's twenty
sixteen sequel, but he's remained a producer and important creative
partner for the franchise. But Warner Brothers deal requires the studio,
the credit, Wan's production company, Atomic Monster and all these things.

(17:37):
But apparently at this point he might be moving on
from the franchise overall because they can't seem to settle
on a deal. This is, according to Puck News, is
Matt Maloney. She's because any future s unless they cut
him a bigger check. So what is he making this
move now? Because Conjuring Last Rites is doing so well?
What do you think the reason is behind all this?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah? I mean they basically again are paying him as
if this is a movie that's going to open at
forty but it opened to eighty three. Yeah, it's that
blockbuster money. And I don't blame him. I don't see
I like, I got some emails after my item about
this in the last newsletter and how people were like, listen,
he was barely on set of Last Rites, Like he

(18:21):
barely had anything to do with it, and now he
wants to get paid, Like, cut him loose. They don't
need him. I disagree with that. I think that they
do need him, and it's not so much for his
producing services. Is his impremature? Right? Movies are sold on
his name? Yeah? Sure, And if you take that away,

(18:41):
and you take away Patrick Wilson and Bear Farmiga, right,
because they probably recast those roles. I just don't know
that it has the same like, I think people want
to know that this is in like safe hands. I
care about the franchise. So if you're losing your two leads,
I think I think you gotta hang on to one
and you don't need to jump up for you. I

(19:02):
think the Puck suggested he was going from like the
gross that's insane, you know. But I do think that
he will get a raise. I think he's earned a raise.
I think he will get a raise. Why would you
walk away from your baby? This is your meat? Yeah, yeah,
good point man.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah. By the way, everybody, we're at two hundred and
eighty five, three hundred of you joining us right now live,
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What are your questions about things that are going on
in the world of entertainment? Let us know from Jeff
and I here as well. Uh yeah, I mean I

(19:41):
think I think you're absolutely right. You say, James want
it's he's so connected to the conjuring situation. If he
moves on, we don't leave a bad taste in the
mouth of fans. That's a question you have to consider
going forward, as you said, losing the leads as well.
But I mean this is interesting because on the heels
of this, we have a we have a new series
that is the works at HBO Max here. The Conjuring

(20:02):
series has been developed since twenty twenty three. It is
ramping up. Deadline has conferred that Nancy one wo And
from Tiny Beautiful Things will serve as showrunner and executive producer.
So it feels like they're moving on with this franchise
one way or another here by developing all this stuff
and ramping it up here, Jeff, will this have any
effect on the contract negotiations or the situation between one

(20:25):
James Wan and Warner Brothers.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The fact that it leaked out in the open, I
mean yeah, it may increase pressure for them to get
a deal done again. I think it would be short
sighted of New Line to just like cast out James
Wand because he's too expensive. Given you know that this
is like a ten poll almost, I mean, an open
bigger than right, like f one right, yeah, I mean

(20:52):
like yeah, I just would not blow up that relationship
over something like this. Give like you don't have to
give into his demands, but you give the guy a raise, yeah,
and say thank you? And what's next? Right?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean, counsidering how much you just made off of
this film, which was way beyond expectations. Why wouldn't you
want to do that? It makes sense for sure? All right,
let's move on to this story and Jeff, what are
your thoughts on this? Rumors abound here Daniel RpK and
others reporting that they're hearing that Scarlett Johansson is in
talks in negotiations to come back for a Jurassic World

(21:27):
Rebirth sequel. She had said in promoting the movie that
this was a one off, that they were going to
tell their story and be done with it. Do you
think that the box office at eight hundred and thirty
one million and counting was enough to pull her back
in And do you think she'll have a bigger role
to play beyond what she's played in the film. Do
you think she'll have a bigger role behind this sequel?

(21:49):
And do you think he'll come back Gareth Edwards?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's a good question. On Gareth Edwards. I think that
he will because I think he did a good job.
You know, people can have their issue with the movie,
and I understand that. I understand like the kind of
clumsy script, and I might get a different writer than
David Kept to be honest, but Garrett Edwards held up
his end of the bargain. I thought he delivered some
pretty memorable action sequences that were pretty slick.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I wasn't surprised to see Scarlet come back if they're
gonna you know, pay her like why like the fact
that they like left spoiler alert they left. They leave
Marschel Ali's character to survive at the end. Yeah, all
that to me indicated is like, oh, this this cast
is coming back, like they didn't want to kill him
off sequel time. Yeah. And yeah, eight hundred and seventy million,

(22:37):
you can't argue with the results. This is still like
a cash cow. Yeah, it didn't gross a billion dollars
like the Prahps movies did, but I think you'll account
for that in the budget. And uh, you know, I
think this is probably the right move for Universal to
run it back.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do you think they go for a bigger name though?
Director wise, did they go for bigger names to come
into the cast, I mean Rupert Friend or Jonathan Bailey
bust and seats. So to me, I'm like, well, can
you go even farther? What if you surround her with
other a less talent that's strong as well and bring
them into the fold. Does this become the possibility of

(23:15):
getting this thing into the billion dollar territory if they
go that route.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I mean, I don't think that it needs more star power.
The stars are the dinosaurs. That's why. That's why this
franchise does so well. It's not to go see stars,
it's to go see the fucking t Rex. I think
people do. I think Jonathan Bailey was the best part
of the last movie. I think he, you know, further
endeared himself to the audience. People love Scarlett, they love

(23:43):
mah Herschela. I think the only thing that you could
possibly do, since we've already brought back Sam, Sam, Neil
and Dern Yeah, and we've already had that oh they're back.
You know who hasn't come back is Chris Pratt.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah. I guess you could bring him back, Yeah, Chris
Pratt Scarlett, Right.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
If if you teamed up Pratt and scar Joe, Yeah,
you know, the kind of and he could only he
doesn't have to be in the whole movie. He could
be in like half the movie or the last game, right,
So that's one way to do it. But Gareth, you know,
as far as a bigger director, No, I think Gareth
Edwards is kind of right where this franchise should be
and what it deserves.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Wouldn't Adam Winguard want to bite it this apple? After
his success with Godzilla, Kong and stuff like that, wouldn't
you want to kind of open the door to wing
Guard or No?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I mean I don't really care for his Godzilla movies.
He could certainly handle something like this, I'm sure, but
like I want to see him continuing to make movies
like Onslaught, which is said to be, you know, a
throwback to his earlier film. So I hope that he
stays in that area for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I would love Michael beat to do it.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I would love Michael Bay to do it.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
What a way to bring Michael Bay back is to
give him a Jurassic World film.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
He's taken. He's taken, you know, instruction from Steven Spielberg
before with Transformers.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, so I like this. We wanted some trailers here, Jeff,
we had some new trailers that dropped this week. We
had The Rip, the first trailer here with Ben Affleck,
Matt Damon under the direction of Joe Carnahan. What do
you think of this trailer? Do you enjoy this? Did
it work for you? You like that the moodiness, the
darkness of this?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
What are your thoughts about it? Did it work for me? John?
The movie stars Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Yeah, it
works for me. Okay, okay, I'm loyal to my guys.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, but they're in Miami in this one.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't give a fuck where they are. They could
be in an Antarctica. They're still Matt and Ben. I
still go up and support I stand for them, I
ride for them.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, this looks like a blast A bunch of like,
you know, dirty cops stumble upon millions at a stash house,
and then word leaks and they start not being able
to trust each other, and then the criminal underworld starts
coming after him. I think this looks really cool. I listen,
Joe Carnahan is hitting miss no question, He's on, He's

(26:01):
fucking on, and like, I just love the kind of
manly macho movies that he makes, and he's working with
these two guys like Nark is an Alzheimer. Yeah, it
is not mentioned on a lot of critics lists, and
then things like that the best of the nineties or
whatever fucking year was. I forget. I think it was maybe,
but great, great movie. And I really like Cop Shops,

(26:22):
so like, hopefully Joe Carnahan, whose last movie like nobody
saw a shadow force and who is not a movie star,
you know, nobody saw that. I'm hoping for a comeback
for Carnahan. Yeah, cop Shop was good. Boss Level was good. Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
The Gray is one of my quietly favorite fucking man films. Ever,
I thought his A team was unfairly vilified and should
have done much better. Smoking Aces is a fun rob
And then you get to Nark.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Nark just out on four K recently with a brand
new adaptation with a whole bunch of new special features
on it. Highly recommend people.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's on Arrow.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
I think you can get it. I think cap off
like twenty five bucks normally a fifty dollars or four K.
It is so worth it because that film is so
fucking good. And I agree with you, he's more often
hit than miss in my opinion, but he can be
hit or miss, but the win he hits, it's a blast.
And I agree with you on cop Shop. That was
so much fun to see that in the theater. Shar
Butler doing a great job on a car. So this

(27:19):
feels like this could be like Nark, like his best
thing since Nark, and has that kind of energy to it.
You got Sasha Kaye in here, Katalina Sendino, Mono, Tiana Taylor,
and Stephen Yune's a good strong cast to come in.
And I agree with you, Jeff, Look I will. I
love Touchy Pheely. I love films that explore race and
explore gender discrimination all that kind of shit. But I

(27:41):
also love my man films that are gritty as fuck
and get into the dirt of men. Mean potatoes, Yeah,
mean potatoes. Yeah, go work out at the blyft weights
and shit like you want that fucking craziness going on.
It's good to have a balance in those kinds of things.
So I like that there's directors like Carnahan and Tim
Miller and all these other directors that are still doing
these kinds of movies. They are essential to feed the

(28:03):
audience that wants to see them for sure. All right,
let's see what. Oh yeah, we also got the trailer
for today. I did a reaction to it. It's up
on the channel right now. I reacted to the first
official trailer for Christy. What did you think, Jeff? A
good two and a half minute trailer with a good
amount of Sydney sweety in this two and a half
minute trailer, I meant to say, Ben Foster, and I

(28:24):
don't know who's playing Don King, Bud, he's fantastic. What
do you think of this trailer? Man?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah? I also was unsure who's playing Don King, but
I thought it looked really good. Yeah. I think she
is going to get an Oscar nomination. I mean, depending
on how black Bear handles the roll out in the campaign. Right,
but it looks like a total transformation for her and
uh and you know, like like kind of like this
year's it, Tanya. Oh yeah, that's what it reminds me of,

(28:52):
with the an abusive husband and that kind.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Of Oh, it looks like Dennis l I mean, sorry,
Chad L. Coleman is playing uh Don King? Who was
he was Cutty in the Wire If you guys remember
the Wire, he was cutting in the wire. Have you unrecognizable?
I didn't even he's in the Orville.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think he was in The Walking Dead for a
few I mean, you know, not best known. I hate
to say this, but like he had the meltdown on
the subway.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh that's right. Oh that's wow, ship that's right. But yeah,
I and I thought Ben as unrecognizable as Sidney Sweeney is.
And look she caught. She got her body type, Christy's
body type, the stocky body type. They totally made her
look just like Christy Martin. Tha was fantastic, had shades
of monster like what Charlie did to herself to look

(29:41):
like what shed Ilean Werno's in that film. But then
Ben Foster looked completely unrecognizable and clear. They're gonna they're
gonna tackle the domestic violent stuff. They're gonna tackle her,
uh her love affairs, are gonna tackle all kinds of
stuff that I think is really interesting. The only negative
is that I didn't seen it much of Katie O'Brien,
just her running with her near the end. So maybe
there's more with her down the road. Maybe they didn't

(30:02):
want to spoil that just yet. But dude, this I'm
surprised this didn't get a distributor. Yeah, this looks good.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I'm shock black Bear is going to handle it himself.
And now you know, they produced the movie and they
just launched a theatrical distribution division. I don't know if
they're handling it themselves because they didn't get offers. They
announced it before the festival, I believe. So I thought
that they would wait to see what the festival response
was and put it on the block and if they

(30:29):
didn't find a buyer that you know, met their their price,
that they just do it themselves. But you know, I
think it's probably smart if you're gonna go to the
trouble of launching a division paying you know, distribution execs, Yeah,
give them a movie to distribute with, you know, actual potential.
And so I understand, you know, hanging on to this
one and doing it themselves.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
What about the uh Hugh Jackman Kate Hudson want did
you get a chance to see that song sung Blue
trailer that dropped earlier this week? Basic a Neil Diamond
tribute band. But Hugh Jackman is a Vietnam era, a
Vietnam War veteran dealing with his own PTSD in his
troubles and she's a you know, house frustrated housewife who

(31:12):
wants to kind of establish herself in the world. What
do you think this one? This was surprisingly touching for me.
What'd you think.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Best picture? Sleeper potential?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Are you fucking around her being serious?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Or a nomination?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Seriously, you're seriously thinking, I.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Am dead serious. Really, I think it has sleeper potential
to be nominated. Get out of here. He looks really good.
I think he looks great. I think it's probably gonna
be her best role since almost famous famous, you know,
like they could all get like Globe nods. Yeah, you know,

(31:51):
I think this is going to sneak up on some people,
kind of like you know, better Man did did that
movie you know, didn't do well at the box office
and and all that. I mean it was way more
expensive than this Neil Diamond movie. But yeah, I think
there's a reason Focus is putting this out on Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh yeah, because they want to get the families in
there and get people responding to it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's good. Yeah, that's probably It's.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
A good point. It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I was out in the first thirty seconds. I was like, oh,
this is ridiculous. This is not my jam. He doesn't
look like no diamond at all.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
And then yeah, yeah, but when it made the turn,
When it made the turn, I was like boom one
hundred by the end of the of the trailer. So yeah,
I'm looking forward to it. Anything else, any other trailers,
any other trailers dropped for you this week that you
want to highlight? Anything else that you want to talk
about that I might have missed trailers.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Want I don't know?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, well, what about this story? This broke just a
few an hour ago?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Good what mister Smith?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yes, I was just gonna ask you about that, Please
talk about it. They've and definitely postponed the film the
second season on this Prime Video has. Do you think
that means it's dead?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It feels dead only because Francesca Sloan just signed on
a few minutes later to do season three of Big
Little Lives. Oh wow, basically given up with her. I mean,
if Donald is gonna write it with somebody else, or
if someone else is going to take over. But the

(33:33):
fact that that news came out back to back season
two delayed and definitely Francesca Sloan working on season three
of Big Little Lies and signed the deal at HBO.
Not a coincidence probably. I mean they said that there
was trouble with like casting, which I don't really need

(33:53):
the end, they had their their leads and like they're
the ones who suffer the most here. Yeah, Steen, who
you know was in a Nora which won Best Picture,
and Sophie Thatcher who had a ton of heat coming
off of Heretic and a bunch of other things. They
have been holding slots. Yeah, I think since February, Like

(34:16):
this was supposed to go earlier this year, then it
got moved to summer, then it got pushed to fall,
and this whole time they've just been blocked off waiting
for the show to start and it hasn't. So they
kind of got screwed in all this now, you know.
The deadline mentioned a whole range of guest stars who
I thought were kind of interesting. Half of them were
NEPO babies. By the way, it was like Scorsese's kid,

(34:39):
Ethan Hawke's kid, which I don't know if that was
like a comment on something, but what was interesting to me,
And I don't, you know, this isn't out there and
I'll elaborate in the newsletter, but like Donald was coming back,
same with Maya. Right that they were both coming back,
they would have been the leads for half the Sea.

(35:00):
So when I say that oh Ristine and Thatcher were
the new Mister and Missus Smith, that is true, but
that only would have lasted about half a season.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh. Interesting, kind of like the Lashawna Lynch thing where
they were like, oh, she might be taken over Bond,
but in fact Craig is still coming back to play Bond. Interesting. Okay,
all right, Well, just odd to see that that's the
decision now, because this definitely feels like it's dead now
if people are moving on and they can't quite put

(35:29):
it together. So, and I don't know that the public
is clamoring for a second season loudly enough that this
would be something that would affect them if it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Too much time pass, right, Yeah, it may just be
better to just leave it where it was. And I mean,
I'm sure Donald is looking to do something else too. Yeah.
I really like Mister and Missus Smith. I thought it
was terrific, but I wouldn't It wouldn't shock me if
this was in fact over.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
It wasn't a cheap show either.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I can't imagine that it was one more thing. You're
just just also breaking here, Jeff. Uh the Bucks. Matt
Baloney is reporting that the Beatles movies quote are said
to be costing about one hundred million dollars each. That's
four hundred million dollars plus in total, a price tag
that rivals the biggest studio best in the past decade. Rothman, however,

(36:21):
is betting on Mendays. What do you think about this, Jeff?
One hundred million dollars per Beatles film foura manons plus total.
Do you buy it? Do you think this is true?
And does this make sense?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Absolutely? Buy it? And I think that it goes hand
in hand right with Kim Masters reporting later in the
Puck newsletter just about like the Rockman succession race. Yeah right.
This kind of feel like the kind of balls on
the table, like all in pushing the chips, all in

(36:52):
move that you make before maybe you relinquish control of
the studio, Like if it's like, yeah, so much longer,
I'm gonna get to be in one of the great
jobs in the world. I'm you know, the oldest studio
head by far, let's make a big bet and then
I ride off into the sunset. If it's yes, I
think I think it's a great gamble. I mean, the

(37:13):
biggest fan in the world, right, Yes, so it seems
like a good bet to make, and they didn't spare
any expense in terms of casting, in terms of mendes,
and you know, like I like it. Yeah, I like
it too, obviously because I'm a Beatles fan.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I like that they're going to sink money to get
this authentically right so that it feels like it wasn't
made on the cheap or a quick cash grab to
take advantage of people's fandom. They're actually sinking good money
into this to have a to spend to make it
look authentic, make it look good, to get the right
actors involved, to get everything just as professional as possible,

(37:52):
and so even if it doesn't work, at least they
put their best foot forward. And that's exciting on so
many levels.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
You do have some breaking news as noted in the chests. Yes,
some Law Street Journal reports that Paramounts Guidance is preparing
a majority cash bid for Warner Brothers back Allison family.
The bid will be for the entire company, including its
cable networks and movie studio. Pretty crazy, pretty fucking nuts.

(38:21):
Wasted no time, wasted, no time. It's been a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Jesus Christ. So they would own Paramount and Warner Brothers, Yell.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Under this arrangement, Yeah, they'd have to figure out what
to do, you know, maybe oh no, the cable stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
But okay, I gotta tell you. Can we talk honestly
about this because I want to talk honestly about this.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Then my reaction to this is this is fucking insane
and terrifying because I know what their point of view is,
and I know the direction they're going to go with
this nonsense, and I know the reason they want control
this stuff is to pump out certain kind of content.
I don't think this is gonna affect James Gun at all,
because I think James gunn leans a certain way already

(39:14):
to a degree, and so I think DC. I think
DC will be fine if they make this movie. And
I wouldn't be surprised if Ellison hasn't already been talking
to Gun behind the scenes or through intermediaries to verify
this possibility and see if he's still cool to stay
aboard if they do it, not be surprised, and Saffron
too would not be surprised at all. But that being said,

(39:35):
I don't like the idea of one fucking company owning
multiple movie studios because that means they can decide what
kind of content gets pumped out there and the kind
of content that gets pumped out there. So that concerns me.
And today is today or yesterday? Ellison was officially tabbed
as richer than Elon Musk, the richest person in the world,

(39:58):
Larry Ellison, and so.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, what a day that they were. It's like they
were awaiting, uh in the pass Elon. I mean, do
you think that he would own two studios? Do you
think that he would just combine them? And if he
combined them, what do.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
You Jesus combined is even worse.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I mean, how do you run two movie studios? Right? Like,
you have to combine them.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I guess you're right. I guess you're right. You have
to combine them.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Well, that's more jobs lost.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
And there's less Then there's less films being made, right,
and there's less and what do you but this also
signifies like the the not the death of film, but
certainly the contraction of film, and that's scary.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That's scary.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I mean, I get Sherry doing it because Cherry wants
that money and she's got her own health issues and
she wants to kind of like sell high at the
highest point. Zaza way to do this. We know Zaslov's
political bent. Ellison and him vibe vibe politically, so it
would not surprise.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Me if he does this. Is this the death of Hollywood?
Is that what we're watching in real time? Or are
watching it? Where are we watching its rebirth? Well?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
What is it going to be reborn into? Is it
going to be a pet cemetery rebirth where the cat
shows up and it ain't the cat you thought it
was and it's a much more violent, vicious cat. Or
is it going to be a rebirth into a better
version of itself? Which I would seriously doubt with Ellison
in charge of things, I just would doubt it will. Yeah,

(41:39):
And I think this is now and I think this
is the choking out. This is the choking out of DEI,
this is the choking out of any kind of liberal,
progressive points of views in films. It's very possible that
they start choking it out one by one, step by step.
Disney's already been intimidated by it, and you see it
happening across the bad and now this is this is,

(42:02):
this is depressing on so many levels. And it's sad.
It's sad to see this happening because they are gonna
push their points of views on their things. And that's
gonna break my heart. What Star Trek is gonna look
like all white? It's gonna be all white.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Cast I love that. I feel like your first thing.
It's like Paramount's gonna buy what brothers, what are we
gonna get it? All white? Star Trek?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I mean I've literally been talking for five minutes, so
it wasn't the first thing I said. But go ahead, yes,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
As far as concerns, yeah, I mean, will this happen?
That's the question. Will the FCC allow it to happen?
It seems yes.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Will you think it's unlikely?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean it seems like it would.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Your Jeff, don't be come on. I love you, man,
but don't be naive. If it's Ellison who's in bed
with Trump, and Trump has the FCC doing everything he
wants it to do, they will absolutely approve the situation,
just like they approve the CBS or the paramount thing.
This will absolutely get approved. There'll be no hesitation, they'll

(43:01):
fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well, they can't actually make the bid till next year.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
But he's in for another three years.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
So this has obviously been widely speculated. We've talked about
it before, only now it seems to be official coming
from the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, pretty nuts, wild crazy
days we're living in. Yeah, yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Have to find another job. Oh well this lady. Or wait,
maybe there becomes a renaissance of pro woke YouTubers that
now take the place of anti woke YouTubers, and we
become the rebellion. We become the people calling out these studios.
We become the people ridiculing those fucking clowns up there.
I would one hundred percent welcome back as a switching

(43:46):
of power in the game. That would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's time for the Jamies notes portion of the show
where Jay would like to note that if anybody comes
back for Jurassic Anything to be a one armed Sam Jackson,
Hey nice, he could have survived. Always saw it was
an arm right. And he'd also like to note that
if Sophie Thatcher is now available postmister and missus Smithson,

(44:12):
what oh could you? I think he would? She make
a good Clarice starling. Oh oh, I like that idea. Yeah,
I kind of like it too, That's why I mentioned it.
I don't bring up James's bad ideas. I let those
sit on my phone. Those are both good ideas.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
How big is the stack of his.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
No offense? James busher bulls?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
All right, well, anyway, we'll see what happens. But I
think dollars to donuts, this is totally gonna happen. All right, Well,
special machine, let's talk about this, Jeff. Right now, there
are there has been a box office report come out
here on Deadline. I see it that it is tracking
to hit twenty million dollars when it hits on theaters

(44:57):
on October third as an open That's pretty good for
a movie like this. Jeff an r rated a twenty
four movie starring Dwayne Johnson as an MMA fighter with
Emily Blunt. The reactions out of Venice were not as
strong as tiff More mixed reactions. Still praise for the rock.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But the film the other way around.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Oh sorry, sorry. The reactions out of Tiff. We're not
as strong as the Venice reactions. There's still praise for
the rock, but the film itself kind of mixing. Some
people actually miffed at the Venice reactions to the movie.
So you're seeing it today, where are you at on this?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I mean, again, I think it looks really good. I've
I believe in Venice Safty. I'm down for an unconventional biopic.
I think Dwayne looks great, and I think the other guy,
Ryan Bader, Yeah, I think he looks fantastic too. I'm
gonna be watching with an eye on him. But yeah,

(45:51):
I would believe the Oscar buzz. You know, I don't
know if he's gonna win, but it seems like he
could certainly get his first nomination. Seems to me more
likely than Adam Sandler getting one for cut Gems.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Oh yeah, Well what about the twenty min dollars opening?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
That?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Does that surprise you?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Does that? No? Because I mean they always looked at
this as a commercial play, even more than an Awards play.
I feel right, right right, like they they're gonna be
partnering with UFC. Yeah, of course they promote the hell
out of this, and yeah, they spent a fair amount
on this biopick. I mean, there are two big stars

(46:27):
in it obviously, So yeah, you know, twenty twenty would
be a really good start for something like this, and
I think it it takes advantage of both Dwayne's audience
and that UFC audience.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, which is a cross big crossover audience. Let's be honest,
Dwayne has a big crossover audience there for sure because
of his movies. All right, well, let's hit this one.
Let's talk about this, buddy. We talked a little bit
about the sphere situation last week, but there's more to
add to this. Apparently this is going to the film

(47:03):
is making a lot of money, the Wizard of Oz
they're screening in the sphere. The Apparently it's reaching two
hundred million dollars, and the overall profit of the Wizard
of Oz screenings there in the sphere, the gross profit
will get to over five hundred million dollars in twenty
twenty six at this point. And now there's talk about

(47:26):
other films possibly being screened in the sphere in this
way with AI. The Harry Potter films and Disney titles
like Star Wars could be part of this whole situation.
And for those of you who don't know, the Sphere
is putting Wizard of Oz here, it's only the it's
cut down to an hour, but they've added some AI

(47:47):
scenes to this whole thing, and it's caused an uproar
amongst people against AI. But clearly the public is showing
you that they were excited for this kind of thing.
So what are your thoughts on this, Jeff? And do
you think it's absolutely going to expand upon it?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
The movie has been cut down to an hour.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, yeah, they've cut the movie down to an hour.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I had no idea about that. That's reine and they
still managed to fit in a David's as Lava. James
Dolan cameo, yeah, crazy, Yeah, I mean I think this
is the future. I think people want these immersive experiences.
They want you know, they've been going to the theater
for how many decades now? Right? What is the evolution

(48:25):
of that? What does that look like? I haven't been
to the Spear yet. By all accounts, it sounds like
it's a really memorable experience. Yet it is pricey, but again,
people are willing to pay a premium for something that
they're going to remember right, whether that's a concert ticket,
I mean shit, I said, how many people did I
see this week's shell out? Three hundred Fouinterer bucks easy

(48:46):
for Oasis for Oasis. Yeah, so yeah, I think Star
Wars is a lay up, just an absolute no brainer.
You can see what the Sphere would look like if
Star Wars was playing. Imagine all the imagery that would
be on the outside of it. And Harry Potter also
seems like a great idea. I don't know which one
would be first, right, but the fact that you know,

(49:08):
Warner Brothers let Sphere do something with Wizard of Oz
I think, you know, shows that they have a good relationship.
But wouldn't surprise me to see the Matrix as well.
The Matrix was just cosem right, So like it just
seems like a natural progression.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, And just to clarify for the question you were
asking me about the film itself, originally is one hundred
and two minutes, so an hour and forty two. They
cut it down to an hour and fifteen. It's only
seventy five minutes, so over an hour, but still not
the full so you don't get the full film. But
still people are paying like one hundred to two hundred
and three hundred and four hundred dollars for a ticket

(49:44):
to see the movie, to see this experience. I guarantee
you if you do Star Wars, they'll make a billion
dollars off this thing because people want to come from
all over the world to see this kind of stuff.
Sou and Potter too, depend like I said, depending on
the movie, and maybe they're already planning that to take
advantage of the film of the show being released right

(50:04):
around the same time as the Potter film was possibly
being released.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And Willie Walker's next, Walka's next. I think show.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Next, Wow, that'd be something. Okay, I think that's everything
with unless you want to talk about this guy in
his ridiculous comments. I know he's your boy, but the
one will want to Stephen King or do you want
to talk about his comments?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
What did Glenn say?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
All right, let me tell you what Glenn said.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Glenn said that he and this was his GQ magazine,
by the way, go and get your boy, because that
photo shoot was fucking ridiculous. But he said a new
cover story that the industry's preference for brooding or dark
types like Christian Bale in Twilight ear Robert Pattinson left
him on the outs when it came to casting big roles,
but he said Chris Pratt changed things. Here's this quote.
I remember when Chris pat broke out in Guards of

(50:52):
the Galaxy. There's no doubt it really helped not being
brooding or dark, like I'm not Christian Bale. Christan Bale
has a gravitas and a weight, and Pattinson had his thing.
And when Pratt kind of a heared on the scene
where he was doing things that were a little more
silly and and buoyant. Okay, that's where I feel most
at home, and that's where I feel like I had
a gear that is necessary flavor in terms of Hollywood,
and not a gear that a lot of guys can play.

(51:13):
My man, what the fuck is he talking about? Shall
I show you through Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stone, All Schwartzniger
zarklaw Fan Damn. There's so many action heroes who were
funny and buoyant as well throughout the series. What is
he talking about?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, but you just named a bunch of guys who's
whose heyday was really like the eighties and early nineties, Like,
I definitely think that Glenn is correct in, you know,
seeing that they did go to like this brooding, darker
hero and I can see why in his mind Pratt
was the guy who changed things. I don't think it's

(51:49):
completely off base. I get what you're saying that Will
Smith around in the nineties wasn't anything new. He wasn't
like an original, but he was re freshing, which is
why I think that Guardians did so well.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I mean, Dwayne Johnson was around in the two thousands
doing his humorous the Rundown, all these things he was
the star of to make Will Smith was still doing
films suits Tom Cruz still doing films in two thousands.
So I think he's a bit off base, but I
get where he's coming from. But I think he's a
little bit off based on this. But you know whatever,
he's for his maga bro what can you Do?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
And the photo shoot again he's promoting he's a comedy.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
What happened you have a dogg or what happened?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
No? I felt something on my knee and when I
saw it shoot across the rim, you know it was
a rubber band and I keep my desk it must
have just like cracked and split and it fucking shot out. Uh.
He's promoting Chad Powers, right, it's a comedy, so he

(52:53):
has a sense of humor, like it's not time for
steamy beefcake photo shooting GQ.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yes, so still got those abs in though, didn't we Anyway?
I like the guy, cheer for the guy, but some
of the stuff he says. All right, let's move on
to our Stephen King Stephen King Movies draft. Jeff, we
got we got time for this one. You have time
for this one.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I got time. Maybe I'll make the time.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
All right, And just to let you guys know, to
update you on the super chests, we're only up to nine.
Let's go, people, send in your love stream Lab Superchests.
The address is right above Jeff's head. It's also pinned
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Please send in your love people.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
We gotta eat, you gotta eat.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
We only have nine. Come on, guys, get us to
at least fifty, for fuck's sake, come on, fifty. Let's
get to five.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Let's start with twenty five.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Let's get to twenty five. Five, Let's start with twenty
five and then work our way to fifty.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
You guys a lot to say. The Stephen King draft.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, let's get into it. Stephen King Movies draft. Jeff
and I. You know, we do these drafts here on
the channel or on the show rather and have fun
talking about these movies breaking them down. This. I feel
like this is a top heavy draft again, Jeff. But
we'll see if there's some surprises for both of us
that make our lists. How do you want to do this?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I mean standard one to ten, you know, ten picks each,
all right? You can either get the well, you got
the first pick for psych me, so you.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Should go first, of you if I give it to you,
I hand it off to you. Do you want to
go first or second?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I will go first, okay, and we're going to keep
it to films, right and no television.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
No television films only. Okay, all right, what's wrong with you?
You know how we do this?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Here? We go for the first pick, A thinking film
adaptation drift. Okay, I have to go with perhaps the
most obvious selection, Stanley Kubrick's The Shining Damn. I had
to do it. Jack Nicholson's amazing in that movie. All

(54:47):
it still holds up all these years later. It's just
so weird and bizarre and creepy and fucked up, and.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, agreed, agreed, And even that accompanying documentary was is
worth a watch from Room two three seven. I've watched
that quite a few times because how much of it
I enjoy the shining. Arguably, Nicholson was never better before
or after. You could argue that legitimately with his performance there.
All right, So then my, so I get two and

(55:14):
three next, right, my my, okay, So of course I'm
gonna take the other what I think is consensus number
one in a lot of people's lists, and that would
be shash Ank Redemption. Have to go that with. That
is my first choice. I think it's such an amazing film.
Tim Robbins, Morgan Freeman became a T and T staple
and became a massive beloved film because of it, And yeah,

(55:40):
great stuff. And then my number, then my third or
the second pick? I guess for me, I guess I'll
have to take misery. I have to take misery off
the board. I know that that's the way I have
to hurt Jeff is taking misery off the board. James Kahn,
Kathy Bates Baits still doing it. That Matt Locke season
a lot of fun to see her in out on
CBS on Paramount Plus. But like we recently did this

(56:03):
on the Centophiles and it was an amazing thing to
explore this movie again. It is so so well done
and such an unusual thing for Rob Reiner to do
so well, and he nailed it.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
So yeah, so I can't take it right now.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
You could if you wanted to. But which one?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Part one about mini series? Like, is that off limits
because it's television?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
If you want to do it, I guess we'll con
see and you do, because I think a lot of
people won't be upset about that. So if you but
it doesn't mean that now it is off the table.
I just want to make it clear if you just chose,
you could.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Do the one if you're a fan of that. But
to me, you could rent it at a Blockbuster Video Okay,
yes you can, right, you couldn't like just rent television
shows willy nilly. Really, I mean maybe later once DVD
came around. But like we all remember the two vhs
it yes, and I yeah, I consider it a movie. Okay,

(56:57):
so if you will let me have it, yeah, I
will take it. The original mini series, which is just
something that is scarred on my brain, and I think
Tim Curry is amazing in it, and yeah, I can't
shake that one. So that's gonna be the fourth pick.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Uh yeah, good choice there. I like that choice. You right,
Tim Curry is fantastic in that movie. And shout out
to Tim Curry. I saw him recently an interview. Of course,
with all this physical ailments, still as sharp as ever
when delivering comments to questions of interviewers. All right, so
then let's so I'm gonna go damn man, Yeah, I

(57:41):
gotta go with this one. I gotta go with stand
By Me.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Damn Oh, it hurt to lose that.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
It was between you. You gotta cheo. Yeah, I have
to go with this one.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I think I should have done that for my fourth pick.
I blew it. I probably should have waited on the
I was never.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Gonna choose that one. I was never gonna choose that one. Yeah,
stand By Me. What a film. All four of those kids,
of course, Rivers passed on, but all four of those
kids still leaving footprints in the world of Hollywood, including Keefer.
So just great stuff and it's it's great to revisit
that one because it's such a moving film and Daniel
Stearn's voiceover is so good in the narration of it all. No,

(58:24):
Richard Dreyfus. Rather, it's so good man.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Ship that broke my heart. I thought I was going
to be able to sneak that past you, bro. I
know that's gonna haunt me. I can't believe this is
gonna be on the internet forever. Wow, I am on
tilt right now. I'm broken with the original Carrie Oh,

(58:53):
good choice man, Yeah, yeah, it's basic.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
John Travolta, Caroen Allen, good choice man.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
One to like the classics, man, I like your squad.
I like your squad a lot. You've done well.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
After the last draft when I got smoked on the
Spike Lee one, I had to come a little stronger today.
All Right, I'm gonna go with one that's a personal
favorite because I just I just even rewatched about thirty
minutes of it the other night on Pluto, and that
is The Dead Zone. I love Dead Zone. I love

(59:32):
Christopher walking in the Dead Zone. I think it's one
of my favorite performances of his entire career. And there's
such a there's such a prescient nature to Dead Zone
nowadays when you watch it that it's truly unsettling. But
it's almost like three films and once in one before
he gets this power, when he gets the power and
loses his parents, and then after that the ramifications of

(59:56):
all of it. So I think it's a fascinating film.
Him and Brook Adams, great chemist, Charlie Sheen. I mean,
Martin Sheen never more villainous than he was in that
role in Dead Zone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
So yeah, that's mine. Okay. Dead Zone is also a
good pick. Shit, man, you're doing good. All right, let
me write that down here. What do I do next?
This is where shit gets tricky?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Alright, I'm going down the list one second year. I've
got I've got ideas, I've got Okay, Okay, Okay, I'm
gonna go with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Okay, Yeah, I can't. I can't let this one go.
All right. Needful Things, Oh, Harris, Full Things, MAXI fall
Side Out. I thought that was so fucked up as
a kid, just somebody coming to town and wreaking havoc
on this town and turning neighbor against neighbor. Ed. Harris
was fantastic in it. Just I just love the vibe

(01:00:57):
of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
So yeah, I agree with you, bro. I remember reading
that book four or five times one summer. It was
so good, and the adaptation I think works really well.
People don't give it enough love for God's sakes, all right,
So I'm gonna go with one of my personal favorites,
another personal favorite, and that's The Green Mile. I really
love The Green Mile. Is it slightly overlong, yes, a

(01:01:20):
little meloder or modelin at the end with Jingles and
the old Tom Hanks, Yes, But everything with Michael Clark
Duncan is a goddamn revelation and so moving and touching.
And I love everything that happens with the guards there
as well. David Moore so quietly never gets enough love
for his work as an actor and should be revered

(01:01:41):
much more than he is. And Tom Hanks incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, Green Mile? Now for counting it? Can we also
count the Stand? Is that a movie?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
The Jimmy Smith's one or which one?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah? The original? Like nineties mini series, it was also
the same thing set over.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I'll give it to you because you need it after
the Stand by me, since.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
You really do, Okay, I'm going to take this in
mini series as well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Anything you want to say on it just you just
want to take it anything you want to say it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I just try again remember as a kid like this
was the most epic like conflict between good and evil
and Gary Sonise was so fucking good. Oh yeah, yeah.
I wish that the reboot had been better. I know
they're doing another one now, they're just trying to work
on a movie. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
For some reason, I just think that that nineties mini
series will be hard to top there point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
All right, now, since you left it on the board,
I am absolutely gonna take it. Part one, the Mushietti movie.
That movie scared the living hell out of me. I
was hanging off the ceiling of the movie theater watching
that movie the whole time, because I am just a
Freddie cat when it comes to scary movies. And I
thought he nailed it. The second part not so much,
but the first part absolutely one of the best films

(01:02:54):
I've ever seen horror film wise, and I thought Mushi
had killed it. So yeah, and everybody in all the
young actor as well, we're so so good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
It was a very well cast movie. Chapter one is
definitely better than Chapter two. All right, I'm gonna go
with Sometimes Dead is better cemetery. Give me pet cemetery.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
From the nineteen eighties one ogget Well, I'm surprised you
haven't taken this one, so I'm gonna put it on
there because we've both seen it, so it does qualify, right,
So I'm going to take the Long Walk.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That's a loud.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Absolutely, we've both seen it, so we can rank it
correctly for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Interesting. You must have really liked it. I did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I really liked the Long Walk. I was surprised at
how much I enjoyed it. I would actually go see
it again, and I rarely want to do that with
films like that. But yeah, this one was a good. Yeah.
We've talked about already on the show, so I need
to go on about it. Go ahead, what's your next one?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Give me that crazy rabbit dog Cujo? Okay, Cujo slobeign
Saint Bernard. He was scary as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
He was, Yes, he was. I still have a fear
of dogs because of Kuja.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
In a while since I saw that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Okay, So I'm gonna go. And I can't believe I'm
taking this away from you because I know Glenn Pal's
your boy, but I gotta go with the original Running Man.
Come on, I gotta go with that one. Swartzenegger, Maria
Kunchitta Alonzo back when they didn't put latinas in the
leads of movies. Uh and it's I really and I
was a big Family Feud fan, so Richard Dawson was

(01:04:41):
at that time. For me, seeing him in a movie
like this was just fantastic. Of course Jesse the Body
and other people as well, but Schwarzenegger at the peak
of vehicle of leading vehicles. Man, this is a fun,
fun movie. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Okay, going down the list here. Okay, I'm gonna go
with this is an underrated movie. Okay, doesn't get its due. Okay,
it's one of my favorite King books. I haven't read
a whole bunch of King books, but one that is
The Dark Half.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Oh yeah, Timothy Hudymoon, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
And Amy Manigan who just in weapons. Yeah, it's about
an author with an alter ego and it was just
very fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Really yeah, I like that one as well. All right, well,
I'm gonna go with another Kathy Bates one. I'm going
with the Laura's Claiborne. I really enjoyed that movie. Her
and Jennifer Jason Lee and David straithurn Is. Oh my god,
is he such a villain in that movie with the

(01:05:47):
way he treats her and the brutality of it all.
Confronting domestic violence and the way they did in that
movie was really powerful, And I thought Kathy Bates and
Jennifer Jason Lee were just great chemistry as mother and daughter. Man,
so highly recommend that one doesn't get as much love
as I think. It's an excellent film.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Good movie. Yeah, okay, now we're getting we're getting thin
here for the Weeds. Now I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Is this your last selection?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Is this time two? More so for this one, I'm
gonna go with he who Walks behind the Rose give
me Children of the Corn.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Oh wow? Oh okay, nice choice, but nice choice. Nice choice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I'm trying. I'm trying to score some points in the
back half of this draft act.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Well, I've never seen The Mist and I still have
yet to see Doctor Sleep, so I can't put that
on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Just let you guys know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
So I'm gonna finish off my choice. I think it's
my tenth choice. I'm gonna finish off my choices with
a film I saw back in the eighties. Uh, sitting
on the left side of the movie theater in Springfield, Mall.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Uh and loving that hell out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And that's creep Show. I thoroughly loved creep showed it
Ted Dancing or Larry And yeah, Ted Danson getting buried
into his head in the sand, in his head because
he's cheating with Leslie Nielsen's wife. I was such a
fan of Creep Show, and I've always gone back to
watch it. So that is my choice there to round
out my Stephen King adaptations. All right, yeah, good suggestions.

(01:07:26):
Chorus A Christine Gerald's Game. I haven't seen Christine or Gerald's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Games, so there are three that are in the mix
for this last pick. And you know one is Christine,
one is Firestarter. Oh yeah, but I think I am
gonna go with Gerald's Game for my last pick. There's
a reason that I don't let anybody handcuff me. All right.

(01:07:51):
I can be a kinky motherfucker, but I don't play
with handcuffs. Mean so many movies, oh my proves to
be a bad idea. So Gerald's Game, if you haven't
seen it, a crazy premises. You know, older couple goes
to like a remote cottage to spice up their sex life.

(01:08:12):
You know, the guy takes a little boner pills, a
little boner medication, you know, to get to put on
a good show, and then he has a heart attack
and drops dead while she's handcuffed to the bed. Oh damn.
It's a pretty wild movie and Gino is fantastic in it.
So yeah, this was actually a well done Netflix king.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Oh shit, I might have to watch that one, okay, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
So to recap, my squad is the Shining Mini Series,
The stand Mini series, Carrie, Needful Things, pet Cemetery, Koujoe,
The Dark Half, Children of the Corn, and Gerald's Game John.
Do you want me to read your list or do
you have to?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I'll do it and my list here is The shosh Ak, Redemption, Misery,
stand By Me, The Dead Zone, The Green Mile, It
Chapter one, The Long Walk, Running Man, Dolores Claiborne, and
Creep Show. Those are my ten.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Pretty good draft, I think again, I won my maybe
gun I should have gone stand by Me over It
mini series and waited on that one. Pretty good draft.
I think you win well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
The fact that we got twenty movies out of Stephen King.
That we can choose and still be like proud of
our lists. I think speaks volumes of how much this
guy has influenced Hollywood and we still left off like
what twenty to thirty other films.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
That's equal draft of twenty worst Stephen King, plenty of
bad ones too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Maximum Overdrive would be on number one. I hated that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I didn't care for The myst or Doctor Sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Oh interesting, Yeah, okay, all right, well there you go.
That's our Stephen King movies draft. Go see The Long Walk.
It's out in theaters. Now. Let us know what you
thought about. Of course, Jeff lab is review, I'll have
my up tomorrow for sure, or later tonight, depending on
how I feel about making videos today. But that's one
of the questions, Jeff. We only have twelve super chets,
so we'll get through them as quickly as we can.

(01:10:12):
And if you guys want to keep sending stuff in
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stay on the air until twelve o'clock. We will see
Alexander Spenser says what's Matthew Vonu do? Is he ever
going to get another Kingsman movie made? Why would you
want him to get another Kingsman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Jeff, Yeah, don't. I don't really need to see any
more Kingsman movies as much as I love Taron Edgerton.
Matthew Vonnie. Yeah, he's been messing around with like the
Chris Hemsworth like stuntman movie or something like. Oh yeah,
he's been doing some experimental stuff overseas and I'm very
curious to see what happens with it. But yeah, listen,

(01:10:52):
he's always around. I think he's a really talented director.
I really like Matt Vaughn, and hopefully he'll wind up
with another blockbuster, you know, perhaps one day, maybe, you know,
maybe if Gareth Edwards leaves Jurassic like Matthew von who
being a choice to come in and do something like that,
I don't know if that's really his.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Bag, but right right interesting. According to m dB, he's
got seven movies in production or pre production or completed,
school Fight being the one that's completed, so he ain't
lacking for work in terms of projects. So Gabriel LaRue says,
super random question for Jeff what's up with Vin Diesel's
Hannibal movie? Feels like it was announced ten years ago?
Is it development hell or canceled?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah? That seems like development hell for me. I don't
think that that was ever gonna happen. I mean, the
Hannibal movie, like The Conqueror with Vin Diesel, that just
didn't make sense. So I don't think we'll ever see it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Yeah, all right, there you go. All right, makes sense.
Ragel Clyde says, Hi, guys can't watch live but still
want to support. Also, thank you, Ragel. What are some
of your favorite found footage movies? A huge fan of
as above So Below? Here? Thanks? What did you movie?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Jeff, do you have any to call?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I don't love as above, So Below. I don't know
that this would count as a found footage movie. Maybe
it does, but I think Chronicle is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Oh yeah, Chronicle is great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
You know, it's a shame sort of what happened with
Josh Trak in his career, because I think that movie
is just like such an impressive debut.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I mean, Cloverfield is in the mix for sure,
obviously Blair Witch which launched it all. I mean, I
would argue end of Watch is kind of like a
found footage movie, right. I mean you're seeing it through
the bodycams of these two police officers or the cams
in their car, so that has a found footage vibe
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
What about what we do in the shadows?

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
That's more documentary though, isn't it, Jeff Than Yeah, yeah,
documentary or whatever. So yeah, I think those are some
of them for sure that come to mind that. I
thoroughly enjoyed Cloverfield. That's that's in the top. And I
love your show. Thank you, Kelly Great Thane you. Cody
Bisher says John. Love your glasses. What is the brand?
And make h to me? T U M I I

(01:13:11):
got them at Costco. That's right, Costco. I also got
my Gucci glasses at Costco, so don't don't don't not Costco.
They got some good stuff there, So yeah, that's my brand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
And it was cheaper than going to those fucking eyeglass places.
Whacky waly ate too early for drinking. Enjoy your show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
What do you mean it's five pm somewhere? Wally, come on, Wally,
get on it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Alan Smithy says, morning guys, Will one battle after another
be a box office hit. It doesn't look like a
big screen movie, even though it's Vista Vision. Why is
this weird stoner character going to have mass appeal? What
is your favorite PTA movie?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, Jeff, what are your thoughts on this? I mean,
if you look now at the screenings and stuff all
over like it's it's sold out across like LA It's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah, all the Imax things are sold out, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Have to get a ticket, So, you know, I think
it's gonna score with a segment of the box off
that always shows up for Leo, for PTA, No, and
in general especially you know, looking at its budget, I
think it'll be tough to make its budget back. I
don't think it'll you know, I don't think it's gonna
be like an outright flop, but it could be a
double that like needed to be a home run essentially. Yeah,

(01:14:17):
I think it will end up being a money loser.
But then again, if this movie does get nominated for
a Bunch of Monsters, which it sounds like it will, yeah,
it could have legs, you know, And I mean I
just I can't wait to see it. I think it's
gonna be great. My favorite PTA movie is probably Magnolia.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Ah, yeah, mine is there will be blood. I've yet
to see anything the top that, but yeah, I mean
there's the possibility this film pulls an Oppenheimer. And I
don't mean making a billion dollars or a closer billion.
I mean like really overperforming. I mean five hundred I
think they'd be happy with five hundred million, don't you, Jeff,
even though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Of course they'd be happy with five hundred million. Yes,
I think that this movie would be lucky to hit
three hundred million.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, it doesn't look like it
has mass appeal, but maybe it's funnier than people think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I don't know the marketing. It's it's a tricky movie
to market, but so if you need a trailer that
sells you. I think it'll be tough for Warner Brothers,
but a lot of people may just see Leo and
say I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Yeah. Possible, very possible. Ash trifoil, trefoil, Oh nice avatar
there Cinema Patadiso Man, one of my favorites, recently rewatched
Under the Silver Lake. Adore this movie and energy and
the energy slash vibe creates a favorite divisive movie that
you consider a masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Crash, Oh really, you think that movie's a masterpiece. I
think it's pretty close to a masterpiece. Other than the
Sandra Bullock Housekeeper stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yes, oh god, that is kind of bad.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I don't like that segment, that storyline, But everything else
I think is kind of amazing in that movie. And
that's as divisive as it gets.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
That That Pena sequence is amazing with the child and
all of that. And I think the Ryan Philippe stuff
is good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Matt Dillon saving the woman that he raped, I mean,
an amazing, amazing scene. Not a fan of Under the
Silver Lake though, Ash Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Okay, I guess I would have to say Man of Steel.
Isn't that a divisive movie? I think that's pretty much
a masterpiece in I love Man of Steel, love it,
love it? Does Interstellar count? Was that divisive? I don't
know if that was divisive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yeah, I wouldn't call that divisive. Unanimously acclaimed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I mean, I love Noah. I think Noah's a fucking
incredible movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
That would count.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I think that counts then, because I think that's an
incredibly well directed film. It is, to me an epic
in every single definition of the word. Yeah, I still rewatch.
I think Russell is great in that movie. Hey, j
Barrett Mash catching up on missed movies. Which of you
should I check out? Dangerous Animals, Predator, Killer, The Gorge,
High to Low, Sorry baby, any others of those? I

(01:17:12):
would say Predator, but Jeff Predator.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Killer of Killers is a very fun animated movie that
kind of flies by. The Dangerous Animals is definitely the
pick out of all these Dangerous Animals is fucking fantastic.
Jai Corney is greating it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Yeah, I gotta see that one. You keep telling me
to see that one. And hid Tolow is good. So
if you get a chance to see it. Uh, Callie
Kid back says, can Jeff Snyder give me a random
scoop for the Jeff, I mean it's a it's a
pretty petty you got anything roll around there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
The cupboard is a little bear right now. I'm trying
to think, um yeah, nothing really comes to the top
of my head for fifty bucks, but I appreciate it.
Callie Kid. It's very generous of you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, you can email me and
I'll or DM me and I'll email you something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
There you go, Vincent Sparasino, I finally watched The Insider
for the first time. Loved it. Also made me realize
how much I like Russell Crow as an actor. It
would be nice to see a comeback for him. What's
your favorite Russell Crowe role?

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, it is this movie. It is The Insider. Jeffrey
wygand this this movie is a masterpiece. It wasn't devisive,
so it was not eligible for the previous question, but
nice to see The Insider finally get it to due
twenty five years later, because god, it was so fucking great.
I mean it was released in ninety nine, which is

(01:18:39):
like the greatest year ever, so I understand why it
maybe didn't do so well with the Oscars, but oh god,
I could. I could watch this movie every day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Yeah, I was fortunate to say it the first time
with Jeff had a DJ screening. It was a heck
of an experience. Thoroughly enjoyed that film. Vincent Sparacino, I
would say to you that Russell might be on a
comeback because, shocking to me, Nuremberg is getting incredible reviews
from people who've seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Critics have seen it at these festivals.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
I thought that was gonna be like a Lion's Gate
straight to streaming type of movie, and it's getting a
lot of positive reviews, including Man's I think liked it
so but you're asking me my favorite Russell Crowe not
the best, because the best is probably Gladiator or A
Beautiful Mind. My favorite is Cinderella Man. That's that's the role.
I go back and watch him in the most. I
love him in that movie. Just love him in that movie.

(01:19:28):
And so that's my favorite performer Stampa, not Rumper Stumper
at all. Eddie Alidia says what happened to Chris o'donald?
Did Batman relegate him to TV? I think it's his
acting talent that relegated him. But Jeff, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah? He just was kind. He's kind of like bland,
He's kind of just like flavorless. I can't say I'm
gonna defend him on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Yeah, I think he just did what Like n cis
are one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah, that that's exactly who you belong. He's like a
CBS TV show star. He put him like a CBS
legal drama.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yeah, NCIS Los Angeles which wrapped up and he's about
to be the lead in nine to one one Nashville.
What's coming out later on this year? So it's where
he belongs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Thank you Kelly Kid for another supersticker. Wow, thank you
very kind of you CALLI.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah, I definitely owe you, Kelly Kid. I'll send you
something over here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
John Ashford says, greeting is any word on the Bradley
Cooper reboot of Dean Martin's matt Helm Deep six?

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
This thing who gave cares Dean Martin's matt Helm? Like
this is like ancient? Who is it supposed to appeal to?
I hope I hope it does not move forward. Bradley
Cooper needs to focus on Spielberg's Bullet Movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Yeah, I agree that that Matt helmshit's for your eighty
year old grandpa, grandma. It's not for anybody watching stuff today.
Fantastic three fourteen, Hey, hot Mike, my favorite found footage
movie is troll Hunters, just saying I've never seen that,
so I don't get the joke. Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Joe? I forgot. I don't think I saw troll Hunters.
I forget. I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Okay, Aaron the Creative says, what would it take for Jake,
Jill and Haw to get the Oscar?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
A miracle? This guy he deserves like ten Oscars already,
Like he hasn't won one yet, so I'm assuming it
will require a miracle because he's just far and away
delivering fucking banger performance one after another.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Everything's about timing, isn't it. Like Jamie Fox just happened
to have the right role at the right time in
the right year to win for Ray. He's never come
close to sniffing another nomination with any of his work since,
So it's all about timing. So if Jake can get
into that movie at the right time in the right year,
I think it's very possible that little Yankee that Ily

(01:21:47):
Yankee says, join late will hop might be earlier due
to Thursday night football. No no, no, no, it was
just Jeff's got a screening sol Yeah, come on and
some of those some of those matchups this year, I
think we can put our Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
No, the Smashing Machine screening is at six thirty, so
you know, if we went four to six, I just
don't think I'd have enough time to get over there.
And I gotta get good seats because this is the
rock going going serious. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
The Calican says, I was at Oasis on Saturday. How
about JS?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I was there on Sunday. I mean it wasn't all there,
but uh yes, by the time Oasis went on, I
had my shit together and just a great fucking show.
Great JS, that's me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Oh oh no, how about j oh oh? How about Jays?
Oh god God, sorry cal Gates. They're showing cinema parodies
so it regal this month. Oh I'm gonna get tickets
for that. I hope it's the original cut. The director's
cut is dog shit. The original cut is that is
a master Uh Karen, Hey, Karen vender Man. It says,
remember a nine to eleven today? Absolutely absolutely. My sister

(01:22:57):
was one of the first people down at the Pentagon
there as a fire fighter back then, and so this
day always is a is a special day for all
of us in our family, for sure. Shout out to
everybody who's dealing with it. Of course, Samos's favorite guilty
pleasure film mine is Bohemian Rhapsody. Oh, Jeff, do you
have a guilty pleasure favorite one?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Keep going, I'll get you my number one guilty pleasure
of this year. I think it's I think I know
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Okay, that's epping stream Labs, Rob thirty three. So those
are all the super chants, everybody, If you want to
keep us on the air after we've done with the
super chants, you got to keep sending them in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
The Guilty Pleasure is locked this year with that with
Bill Scarsguard and Anthony Hopkins where the guys the car
Thief is Locked in the Car. I've seen it twice.
It's such a good genre movie from David Yarravski that
is like the definition of a guilty pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Rob thirty three says, sorry if you've been asked this
too many times, but I'm moving to La next month
and wanted to know which movie theaters I should make
sure to visit and use. Thanks Jeff, you have thoughts
on this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Which movie? I mean, it depends where you're living. Which
he says, which movie theater to go to? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Well no, he said which movie theater should he visit?
Should they visit?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Moving to Alan, we got to go to the Chinese
theater at some point, right, that's just history. Unfortunately the
ArcLight is closed. Going to do there? I mean the
Vista Beverly for sure. Yeah, those are all kind of
big ones.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
I would say the Egyptian because they know a lot
of great older films there. And the Arrow in Santa Monica.
One one is a fun one to go to. Yeah,
I think that's pretty much it from what I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
If you want to see me, you gotta go to
the Grove.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Oh God, if the Epick is still around, that's a
cool theater to go to in Pasadena. But I don't
know if that's a little around. Uh fantastic man says, Hey,
hot Mike. I hope that Star Wars would have developed
some of those vision shorts in the movies because they
could have got onto the anime money train with some
good stories.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh yeah, that's a fair point, Jeff Right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Should should studios be looking now at adapting their stuff
into anime format to see if they can get it
off the ground and get people to watch it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
What do you think? I feel like it has to
be organic. We've seen that a lot, like, Oh, we're
gonna do a Terminator series, but it's gonna be anime.
You know, We've seen Hollywood chase those anime bucks before.
It doesn't really work. Yeah, so I wouldn't. I would
be reluctant for people to do that. I mean, who
saw like The Lord of the Rings anime last.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
It did not do well, right, and it got good reviews,
it still didn't do well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yeah, I think like anime is a very specific thing
and you can't just like graft any IP onto it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Yeah, I mean there the vision stuff is really great
with the anime. I think they could explore that. They
might explore that down the road. But yeah, often other
IP trying to do anime, it feels like you're posing
your posers instead of really, as Jeff said, organic, which
is essential and and anime fans will sniff that out
and destroy it. So Samo says, Hey, y'all have just
booked Paul Preston's movie tour. Yes, when I heard for

(01:26:05):
when I heard for my Hollywood vacation, and when I
had for my Hollywood vacation in a couple of weeks.
What are other great attractions besides that? The Academy Museum
and the studio tours that are worth visiting. Also your
favorite film set in La Harvey, La Confidential.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Oh dude, I went out for Burger the other night
on like Saturday night and it was like a sports bar,
and half the TVs were tuned to college football yes,
and the other half would turn to LA Confidential, which
is I was like, do you think that there's anyone
here who's like, you know, would say to management like, hey,

(01:26:42):
I don't want to really watch a Kevin Spacey movie
with with my meal or whatever. I mean, I don't
give a shit. It's a classic LA. This is great.
And I wondered if some snowflakes would it would have
a problem. The Jeff Cider Museum of Poster Art is
available to all admission. You will have to arrange, you know,

(01:27:03):
hours of availability with me little tour. Yeah, it's about
The tour lasts about a half hour. Yeah, you do
get to go inside the bedroom. There are a few
posters that you can go in the closet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
If you dare, you could be you could be handcuffed
to the bed for a Gerald's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Game loud in Jeff Snyder's bedroom or his apartment. Nothing,
you don't have the strengts.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Welcome, Welcome to our Gerald's Game installation. H Well, I
mean I I only visit in LA once or twice before.
We once before we moved here and I did the
double what's it the double Tour, the double top tour whatever.
There's that bus there. But I I couldn't possibly tell
you what other tours or museums to go in great attractions,

(01:27:53):
I mean, hike Runyon Canyon. Uh, definitely drive through Beverly
Hills so you see how the other half lives. I
think is cool. Uh, definitely head out to the beach.
I would recommend Manhattan Beach if you want kind of
the richer approach to it, or if you want to
really kind of savor la Venice Beach is where you
get a taste of all the economic classes coming together.

(01:28:15):
So I would recommend those attractions or areas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Thirty dollars a day. You can get a pool pass
to Jeff Snyder's private pool and Sunbay is with the
Insider himself.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Wow, what an experience, fantastic, says, showing a little more
support from my guys, Thank you, Fred. The paramount WB
mashup might not be as big a cash cow as
some people think. Just ask Musky about his battery cars. Anyway,
he's got to go clock in for work. See, we'll see,
we'll be late, Jacob says, John and Jeff any Spider

(01:28:46):
Man Scoops or X Men reboot Scoops. I don't think
anything here, Jeff, do you anything?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
No? No? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
CJP tipped what would.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Be interesting though, now that Sophie Thatcher seems to be
available if she wound up with one of those big world.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I should be great as Rogue or Jean Gray down
either way with her? No h c JP says, what's
the post best actor winning playbook these days? What's Adrian
supposed to do? Adrian?

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Adrian Brody?

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
He won twice already.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, but it's like, how do you you know? He
obviously didn't maybe make the best decisions following people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I see what's the post best actor winning playbook?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Yeah? What's he supposed to do? Good? It's a good question.
I think it's just continue working with good directors, right
like that. You saw him be down to play number
two alongside Leo in that Evil Canevel movie that Paramount
pulled the plug on. But that was with Damian Chazzel.
So I think that he just keep seeking out interesting work.
He doesn't have to be leading man roles. You can

(01:29:52):
support like a superstar like Leo. But yeah, work with
good directors.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
He's like the Eli Manning like he won two Bulls,
but you don't consider him one of the greatest quarterbacks ever.
And Adrian Brody's won two Oscars, but I don't consider
him in the pantheon of the greatest actors ever. So
it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
It's a good, good comparison.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Because I mean the jacket, that's that's a standard Eli
Manning season. The jacket, Uh Keith Jacket eleven O three says,
oh Keith Jack eleven O three says, just manage the
end of your stream tonight, showing some support from the
land of Essex serpent. Oh, thank you, British love, thank
you very much. All right, let's see we've got two

(01:30:35):
more I think or no. Eddie Leda says, can we
expect any doomsday news soon? Yeah? Jeff, have you heard
anything I have?

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I mean, I assume that you'll get confirmations for the
other half of the cast, really, but but maybe not.
Who knows. Maybe they're waiting to make a big splash
with that announcement. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Aaron Mansfield says, paramount buying Warner Brothers thoughts, well, we
talked about earlier in the in the show buddy, and
I'll put a time code up. But I'm not a
fan of it, Jeff your thought, quick thoughts anything.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Yes, Now they have the opportunity to do a Weapons
prequel or sequel that is mashed up with School of Rock,
Jack Black as the teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
And Gladys just chasing him down. I don't like that song.
I don't like that song. The cad of Gate Month
of Masterpieces at legal for nine dollars tickets. Well, I
have the regal things, so maybe I can get it
for free. I'm gonna take a look at that Month
of Mastery.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Do you have the regal thing and the AMC thing
a thing?

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Because AMC is like thirty minutes away from me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
So I have the real and I don't want to
go to the one in Powie. I just don't like that.
Paul Hitchcock says, will this be a tepp It Awards year? Yeah,
Jeffets Usually there's like a bunch of films, but it
doesn't seem like it's quite that strong this year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Yeah, I do think it will be a tip of
Awards year. I don't see the Juggernauts either, I think,
I mean, which makes it more interesting, like if there's
a lot of B plus A minus movies. Yeah, but yeah,
I'm anticipating a bit of a down year, you know,
probably due to like the strikes or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Well what what what do you how do you quantify
then or value the Oscar nominations, say for the for
Dwayne Johnson or Sidney Sweetey, because it's might be a
down year for movies.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Doesn't that doesn't matter. I mean, I don't think anybody
looks at like an actor who wins their os and say, ah,
but it was a down year. It's like they have
These people definitely don't care they won it, right, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Cally Kid says, what are your thoughts on Taxi Driver?
It's my number one movie?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
I love Taxi Driver, Jeff. I'm sure you love tax
good movie. I mean, not my not my favorite, not
not when I revisit a lot, it's pretty bleak. But yeah,
mad respect and herostraaten't it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Absolutely absolutely love Taxi Driver again. We did that on
Centopals three years ago. It's such a good movie to
explore for sure. All Right, that's all the questions, Jeff.
We should get on out here. No other no other
questions have come through so oh no, wait, hold on,
Rob thirty three says I'm living in mid Wilshire for
movie theaters and you prefer stream labs to superchats. Correct, yeah,

(01:33:10):
stream labs. We get more from the stream labs than
super chats. Yes, super chats they think fifty percent YouTube
mid Wilshire. Okay, so I think we've recommended some stuff
that you can get to from mid Wilshire, right Jeff, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, all right, all the growth yeah, absolutely,
the growth.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
And go on an afternoon in the weekday. Don't go
it Friday or Saturday night. You're gonna get swamped. All right, Well,
there you go. That's our show. Thank you everyone again
for joining us in this early time. Normally we are
at four PMPT. We are staying at that time, just
had to adjust for today. We appreciate it. Thanks for
the stream last, thanks for the superjet, Thanks for the
lively chat. Jeff, thank you for another fun show and
let people know where they can find you and subscribe

(01:33:51):
to you news.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Live in Sneyder dot com. Got some interesting stuff coming, okay,
good a script review, a big cool interview I'd never
really done before which was interesting and uh and some
Star Wars stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Oh nice, pay attention to that, Paul Hitchcock says, follow up,
if it's a smaller Ward year, does that open the
door movies for movies like Weapons and Sinners to get something?

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Absolutely? Those I think will get some some nominations. I
definitely don't think that either one will be blanked. Right, agreed? Agreed.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
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see Downton Abbey today so I will have a review
for that coming up. The nice couple of days as well.
So thank you all so much for hanging out with
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(01:34:45):
go see a movie and we'll talk to you next
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