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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh yeah, what's up everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to a brand new episode of Spilled the Tea
Kila here on the John Roka Channel.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I am John Roka.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Joined is always by the King of Swag himself, who
I promise will not try to pick up his two
phones and leave throughout this entire show.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And that is my man, Winston. He marshall, how are you, Winston?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's only because I only have one phone. I will
take my one phone and my switch and I will leave. Okay,
don't think, don't think I won't do that. Okay, you
interrupted me, Roka. I don't appreciate that. Bro, you interrupted me.
All right, If you're gonna ask me a question, you
gotta let me finish it. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Don't do it. We have so much to talk about today.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We are gonna have a lot of fun over those
next ninety minutes talking about stuff that's going on in
the world of entertainment. Certainly there's some sure we're gonna
start with the anime stuff with Demon Slayer. You know,
Winston is a very big anime person, so we're gonna
have conversation with him about the box office, what it
means for the future of Hollywood and if these studios
are missing out right now on not taking advantage on
the of the growing power of anime, especially as superhero

(01:16):
movies start to decline, as these other movies start to
cut these tires, the genre type of movies start to
lower in interest from the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is anime the way to go?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
We talk some new Marvel stuff, certainly some new rumors
around Wanda Maximoff and Avengers Doomsday. We'll talk to the
deleted scene from Fantastic four that was dropped today. We're
gonna get into some NFL Week two news as well,
and gonna talk about that Damon Dash Charlemagne the God
confrontation as we teased here just a few seconds ago.
But how are you, Winston?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Where are you at? How are you feeling? Brother? Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Before we start, I mean, I'll be honest, man, I am.
I am emotionally drained. I hear you, man, I think
everything from the way the conversation over Charlie Kirk is gone,
which is why we're not talking about it, because I
honestly you asked me. And if people are gonna come
in and wonder why we're not, it's because I don't

(02:08):
want to. I'm over it, like it is, not only
from how it played out, how it's then being responded
to in Washington, how it's playing out on the internet.
All that drained life out of me. While that's happening,
multiple other school shootings have been going on at are
beginning no coverage. There's a young black boy down in
what Delta State University I think in Mississippi, who was

(02:31):
very clearly lynched. They try and pretend that it was suicide,
but you know, black people don't hang themselves from trees.
And on top of that, he had broken limbs, so
I called bullshit. You throw all of that into a pot.
On top of the fact that, like the world seems

(02:51):
like it's constantly on fire, the Eagles are two and zero.
I just it's a lot to deal with. So I
am personally emotionally drained. I'm excited to talk about like
anime for a little bit. I'm excited to like shoot
the shit out and whatnot. But the world feels more
so than normal, like it's very much on fire.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I had to take a bit, I kinda say
I had to take a little bit of a mental
health day to day myself I had originally planned to
do a couple of things this morning, work on a
couple of things this morning, and I kind of just
sat no lies, woke up, sat mind to where until
about eleven am, and just kind of watch stuff and
kind of thought about stuff and looked out the window
and thought about stuff because just like you, man, this
stuff really guess if you're even remotely an empathetic or

(03:38):
understanding person or person with emotions, that you're in touch with,
this stuff that's happening around our world right now can
be quite, as Winston said, exhausting, demoralizing, overwhelming, hopeless. You
have the sense of hopelessness throughout because how much power
do we actually have, and it feels like we have
no power to at least find a middle ground. There

(04:01):
doesn't seem to be a middle ground in all of this,
and this you know, of course, Charlie cre the political
violence should never happen.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's terrible. His assassination is horrible.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Murder for your political beliefs is not the way things
should happen in this country, or in any country really
in a perfect world. And it's horrible what happened to him,
But you've got to balance it and that is like
people are allowed to express their issues with his words
while he was alive.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And people are getting fired left and right, or people
getting told like they're horrible people, and it's like, no, again,
we got to find the middle ground. And here was
a perfect opportunity on the plate for the people in
charge right now to say, listen, this has gone way
too far.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Clearly there's problems on both sides.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
We are going to try to now kind of tamp
stuff down on all sides, find a middle ground, reach
some have some conversations with everybody from all sides. We
can at least make some good faith efforts to try
to understand each other.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But because clearly we should not be getting murdered for
our political views. But unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
The people in power have chosen to go in a
completely different direction. And it's a direction that's going to
cause more division, more hate, more anger, more toxicity, more
terrible rhetoric, and sadly possibly and hopefully not but possibly
more violence, which is terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
He happened in our country with.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean the speed version of us discussing anything.
Charlie Kirk. I think the part that bothers me is
while I can sit here and say that the man
did not deserve to be murdered. Yeah, the ability to
completely try and make him a saint, to whitewash the
stuff that he was saying, and to be confused why

(05:50):
the groups that he was constantly attacking are very literally
using his own words, he said he doesn't believe in empathy.
He said that gun debts have to happen to keep
the second like ye do not under there. There's this
cognitive dissonance that's happening that's so crazy, and it's now
being used as like the final chapter in the playbook

(06:14):
of like a product twenty twenty five of wanting to
clap clamp down on of speech and everything else. Because
if all the things are being pushed right now in
congreg it's it is the only thing that makes it
worse is not only is this the fire is being stoked,
Like they wanted to say, we got to turn the
temperature down, we got to turn it down, but in
actuality they're turning the temperature up. Yeah, and using that

(06:37):
as a means, whether it be social media or anything else,
to make what is already if if we're evil canevil,
the jump across this canyon to try and divide this
shit is already fucking insane, and they continue to make
it bigger.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
You know what I'm saying, great analogy because E couldn't
make the jump.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
No, we are not going to make the jump if
they keep making the chasm wider and wider that we're
supposed to be jumping man for sure, yep.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So it's just I am. I think the part that
sucks more than anything. One of the things that I know,
you know, being a Latino man, but one of the
things about being a black man in America is this
idea of like feeling like Mugatu from Zoolander and feel
like you're taking crazy pills and like you're looking you're
looking objectively at reality, and people are constantly telling you

(07:32):
that you're insane. And for somebody that on top of
that has ADHD. So I am already second guessing myself constantly,
like shit, did I take the track? Did I what?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Like yeah, It.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Doesn't help to then have things that are more serious
that my brain is more dialed into to still be gasoling.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's yeah, and I don't you're right, And that's the
unfortunate thing is this was you know, it's of course
the murder is horrible, should have never happened. There's should
be no and there should be no celebrating of it,
which I know some people engaged in, which is way
way way out of pocket. I didn't see a lot
of that on my feed. Remember, we are always subject

(08:12):
to our algorithms and what they feed us on social media.
I didn't see too many people celebrating on my feet,
but I know I heard from other people that they
saw a lot of people celebrating from this, So that's
something I don't agree with or condone either, but I
do think there's But I do think this has caused
a massive rift now and they're pushing narratives here to create,
as you said, to make the division even wider. And

(08:33):
that's so unfortunate because this should be a time where
we should be coming together. We used to come together
in the past when tragedies happen like this, to go like, look,
let's turn down the temperature. Let's at least make some
kind of attempt to find a middle ground. And there's
none of that here. In fact, it's just and I
don't even it makes me question everything they're pushing out now, like,

(08:54):
I don't know anything they're telling us from Utah is
the truth, including.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Those text messages.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Already people breaking down this text messages going no way
that's the truth, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
That's just not how a twenty two year old talks.
Is the other thing about it that's weird. But like
I think the last little part that's taking in my brain,
the audacity to genuinely compare Charlie Kirk to Martin Luther
King and too Malcolm X is the most infuriating and
disrespectful thing on the planet now.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It is.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
It is like, say what you will about him being
a political activist or debater or whatever it is. To
compare the treatment of the way black people were literally segregated, lynched, redlined,
you name it, the way that we were treated as subhuman.

(09:48):
To actually compare the work that the two of them
did to Charlie Kirk is absolutely disgusting. And I think
that's the part where I go from beyond exhausted to
genuinely furious. I joke about how I'm Banner from the
Original Avengers talking about the secret is I'm always angry.
This is the type of shit that now the scarlet,

(10:09):
which is fucking with my head and I feel like
I'm on an emotional rampage. Yeah, like it is so disrespectful,
and people see nothing wrong with making that comparison and
continuing to do that and putting flags at half mass
even though there are school shootings happening. You had a
Minnesota lawmaker and her husband get murdered, assassinated themselves, and

(10:32):
not only did Trump say some shit like I don't
need to call them, that be a waste of time.
Those are actually elected officials, and you don't put the
flags at half mass for a senseless killing of them.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
But you yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly one
hundred percent. But again, it just feels like, you know,
one side's really gone off the deep end. And yes,
I'm not saying there isn't uh, you know, there haven't
been comments on the left at times that were a
bit toxic or.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Vile or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I would never deny that, but I mean it seems
clear and you've seen all the statistics where the political
violence is actually coming from. Where the large number, according
to the statistics that they have from all kinds of
unbiased studies show where that it's where it's coming from
and that's the honest truth. And trying to turn this
guy into this person rather into you know, indoctrinated by

(11:27):
left ideology or trans ideology or whatever it is, and
ignoring the number of years that he grew up in
a MAGA household is not really not really assessing this
person and their experience correctly, and it's all trying to
use this person to fit certain narratives. And that's unfortunate
to see because again, this was a great opportunity to

(11:48):
bring people together and look for deeper understanding and conversations
to be had, but unfortunately there's too much money and
too much political power to be had by one side,
so they're pushing this narrative down people's throats and trying
to see if it works. And it also distracts from
the Epstein files consequently, which is a really interesting angle

(12:10):
as well. So but anyway, we we just wanted to
touch on it because I know, we know everyone's been
thinking about it, but we should move on happier topics
as we try to distract ourselves from that.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
So listen, let's get into this.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Let's say, oh, just a reminder, stream Labs, the super
Chats are open. If you want to send in your questions, thoughts,
and comments, please do so. You see the stream Labs
address right above Winston's deed. It's in the description of
the video and pin in the chat as well. But
let's get into some anime stuff here, Winston, this is
a massive, massive story over the weekend here with Demon
Slayer Infinity Castle that was already a big hit in

(12:45):
Japan now became the highest grossing movie domestically over the weekend,
beating Downton Abbey, beating The Long Walk, beating Spinal Tap too.
It opened with a better than expected seventy million dollars.
Just to give you guys a little bit of a
taste of how amazing that is. The predictions were thirty
five to sixty and sixty being like the ultimate highest

(13:05):
they could they thought it was going to get. It
blew past that to seventy and now it's global total.
I think it's a two hundred and seventy two million
dollars in the box office with revenue twohundred thirteen million
coming from Japan alone. So Winston, this is massive, massive news,
and already people are analyzing, are is anime going to
be things that the Hollywood studios are looking at to

(13:26):
do more and more here going forward.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
As long as they don't screw it up, I'm happy
for it. Like there have been in there have been
instances where they have attempted to adapt anime in the
live action, and in my mind, I think the only
one that was actually any good, and I haven't even
seen it because I'm just not a fan of that
franchise is One Piece. Death Note was terrible. The dragon
Ball movie was an abomination data yeah, really, because instead

(13:56):
of taking it at face value, there was this idea of, well,
it's a little silly, or it's a little too fantastical,
so we're just gonna make some slight tweaks. But part
of what made it so interesting is because it was
a little bit more like you're just acknowledging the fantasy
of the world that you're seeing, and in so many
times they're still very grounded even in said fantasy, Like

(14:19):
if you think about comic book movies, you know you
can still around them, but think the idea of a
man putting a metal magnetic like electromagnetic battery in his
chest to stop shrapnel from getting to his heart that
allows him to fly in a death machine Like that's
genuinely insane. So just let it happen, you know. So

(14:40):
if you're gonna do any live adaptations, lean more in
and I think that will help. But I do think
that this is the beginning of anime getting a lot
more respect h and potentially opening the doorway for more stuff.
There have been plenty of people that have been about
that life and it's been grow growing, you know, over time.

(15:00):
I never watched Demon Slayer, so I'm behind. I'm actually
gonna be doing a reaction with Christian for the first
couple episodes that we're gonna figure out if we're gonna
do the whole series together or if it's just to
do that as like one reaction, then I'm gonna go
play catch up. But I remember when during the pandemic
this like kind of took off. Yeah, people were people

(15:21):
like at least folks that I know that are inn anime,
that that they were like Demon Slayer's that shit, and
I just never saw it. I am so happy to
hear that it did it, and of all the properties
that it was this one. Not that I wouldn't want
it for Dragon Ball, not that I wouldn't want it
for Naruto or My Hero or any of the other
like majors that have come throughout the years. But there's
something about this anime particularly that always kind of gave

(15:45):
the vibe of like the little engine that could and
just doing things that are like damn bro. Cause, like
when Demon Slayer first came out, I want to say,
it was on Netflix and for a minute, it was
like holding Netflix's record for like new show. Yeah. Yeah,
like like streams and ship during the pandemic, and I
was like, that's incredibly impressive.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, So I.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Really hope I hope that this is the beginning of
even more. Man, you know what I'm saying. I hope
that this is the beginning of seeing a lot more.
Take bun Juno and what he said, if you can
look down a few inches and and and you know,
read some subtitles, you'll be introduced to a whole new
world of storytelling and and magic and things like that.

(16:29):
And that applies not just to things like Parasite, but
things like anime and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, like you were saying, it really blew up anime.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
During the pandemic because people were home wanted needed something
to watch, and they caught up on this anime stuff.
They got really into it, and that's what kind of
gave it a whole new life, because you know, I've
I've known about anime since the eighties.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, I saw Akita in a in a theater.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And I remember that very clearly, and I, you know,
didn't have access to all that stuff back then when
I was growing up. You had to like find some
you know, sweaty dude who was downloading them from Japan
or friends doing Japan and phs and you know, those
were the days where you had to go buy a
kiosk in the in the mall and they happened to
happen they were like one hundred dollars for one VHS.
I mean, those were the days that I grew up

(17:15):
with it. But now, of course with all this stuff,
they have crunchy Roll, Netflix, Hulu, they do a lot
of anime that they put out there for people to
watch as distributors. And I look at the numbers here,
so I was looking at why this is growing as
a as an entity here, and you see that the
Netflix numbers are the reasons that it is one of
the reasons why it's blowing up. So much more people

(17:36):
are watching it on Netflix, more people are watching it
in other places, and anime in twenty twenty three made
up five point five billion dollars of the global streaming revenue,
averaging about six percent of all the genres here. And
crunch Role has seventeen million subscribers as of May, which
is up from fifteen million dollars last year. I'm getting

(17:57):
this from an LA Times article that was published two
days ago.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Seventeen million subscribers.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
They had fifteen million, last year they had thirteen million,
and twenty twenty four, so they've seen a four million
subscriber jump in two years in people who are watching
their stuff. And Sony said last year the Crunchry or
global streaming revenue from anime titles total one point four
billion dollars. So, I mean, there's so much to be
had here, so much to be watched overall, and you're

(18:25):
seeing this push to like, what's the next step with it?
And I hope these studios are paying attention. And again
it demon Slayer's unusual situation because you had multiple seasons
of a show, you had previous movies. This is the
start of a new trilogy. But the fact that you
got to seventy million. That tells you that a lot
of people are watching this stuff to be caught up
in it so they can watch it in the theater.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, I mean to that point. And like the
funny thing is, without really getting a grip on Hollywood
like that. Yeah, the number one media franchise in the
world is Pokemon at a hundred billion. This is this
is an estimate from last year from what is oh

(19:06):
my god, what is the name of that? From a
capitalist group, I guess the Varoni visual capitalist group, but
like one hundred like and what one hundred and three
billion in merchandise, twenty eight billion in video games, twelve
billion in trading cards, one point seven at the box office,
and one point five in manga in comics right next up,

(19:28):
Hello Kidy isn't really an anime per se Japanese character
for sure, and definitely a cartoon character. But correct me
if I'm wrong. I don't think so. But like what
uh on Panaman fifty six billion, which is above below
Star Wars at Mickey Mouse and Winning the Pooh, but
above Disney Princesses, Mario, the MCU Jump comics just as

(19:49):
a whole, which is just then manga as it is
forty billion dollars as far as the media kind of empire,
Dragonball by itself twenty seven billion, what eight billion and
merch six billion in video games, two billion in home video,
one billion in cards, nine billion in manga, and then
gun them at twenty seven billion. So like, it is
a situation where there is plenty of money to be

(20:10):
made doing all of this. And you've seen things like
Detective Pikachu, which actually did pretty well, let alone that's
live action. Go back to Pokemon the movie, way back
and then not like I believe Demon Slayer actually broke
a record from Pokemon the Movie that it held back
in the day because Pokemon fever was blowing up when
I was a kid, you know what I'm saying. So like,

(20:32):
it is such an untapped resource, and if what Hollywood
really wants again is to continue to harp on ip Yeah, yeah,
I get it. Harry Potter Woody woo, you already did it.
Why don't you try something new and tap an untapped source?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, it feels like this is you know, Hollywood's about
making money, and if they see an opportunity to make money,
they're gonna jump on it with both feet.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
As soon as superhero movies started to be popular, all
of a sudden, you know, you've got all these studios
who are putting out their version of superhero movies or
exploring what rights they have in IP that they have
to turn into a movie. So I would not be
surprised if we start seeing more and more of a
push and we're seeing I think the video game to
live action adaptations that have improved so much over the

(21:18):
last few years. I think that's another motivation for the
anime people involved with animes to explore the possibility of
live action and doing massive and better theatrical adaptations of
their stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
You know, because anime is very it's it's very how
can I say this.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
It has its own unique style. It's a very emotional
genre of movies or TV shows as.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well and all.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
But also it's it's they're darker and they're making commentary, right,
I mean, Winston, you can speak good. They're making commentary
about political commentary, social commentary, financial commentary. They're making all
kinds of commentary about society.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
And it's not all happiness.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
No, not even close. I mean two of my favorite
and two of the most popular animes of all time.
In Attack on Titan and Death Note are literally Attack
on Titan, Uh, you know you're you're you're. It is
a kind of an allegory for World War Two and
the Holocaust, and then the idea of essentially the characters

(22:25):
that are that are essentially representing what the Jews were
in World War Two, and this idea of being like,
you know what, y'allly never gonna mess with us ever again,
and then just deciding to start war with the world,
like that's that is what that is about. The Death
Note is about a kid that finds a notebook from

(22:45):
a death god from Machinagami, and essentially, whoever's name you
write in the notebook, they're gonna die if you If
you put more specifics, you can be very specific about
how they die, but essentially if you don't, you just
write their true name, then they will have a heart
attack within like sixty or something. This kid is very
smart and then decides he wants to be the god
of the New World and starts deciding he's just gonna

(23:07):
He's essentially dexter. He's like, I'm gonna just start killing
criminals and I'm gonna make the world free of criminals.
And then people are like, you can't just murder people,
so to stop where he goes by the Moniker of
Quida or Killer to stop Keida from essentially just murdering
people left and right. You really get it. The heart

(23:28):
and soul of so many interesting moral dilemmas, emotional trauma,
all sorts of stuff throughout anime. Another major one, I
don't know if you're familiar with this, but full Middle Alchemist,
specifically the Brotherhood version. Oh my god, same thing. Are
you willing to sacrifice human lives in order to save
a loved one? Almost almost a full anime about the

(23:49):
trolley problem and really what that means to sacrifice somebody
for someone you love and vice versa. It's so yes,
anime goes there the way that the End used to
do for those that you know were the grossy and shit,
and you know, it goes there like it anime does
that shit and I and I absolutely love that. This
is what's starting to happen now.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, yeah, And you're bringing up some ones that have
like broken through, but there are so many. If you
go into country roles like library You're just like blown
away about even where to start, you know, And it
seems like this seems like a genre that if you
were into it, now is the time to like create
videos and explore and you know, put stuff out that's

(24:33):
easy for people to access who want to get into it,
you know, because the thing is, we love to be entertained.
So many of us who go to movies and watch
TV shows, we seek the new entertainment. The next thing
to be excited about it was superhero movies, and we've
seen that they're kind of bumpy over the last few years,
so it's like, Okay, where can I go to have
some real great art and anime is a possibility, So yeah,

(24:53):
I'm I'm definitely gonna explore. I please have recommended Attack
on Titan like crazy to me, so I definitely gonna
want that.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Genuinely love it, the twist, the animation style, Yeah, the
commentary genuinely about essentially trying to what we just talked
about about trying to evil evil this gap that continues
to grow and no matter what the people are, whether
it be the American people right now, whether it be
Israel and Palace and where it'd be whoever it is

(25:22):
so interesting to have a conversation about, like will you
kill my uncle and my auntie and my cousin so
I'll never forgive you. It's like, will you just murder
my whole neighborhood, I'll never forgive you, And this back
and forth of like if y'all don't find something, this
will will never stop. Eventually everybody gonna be dead. And
it's just it's so good, man, it's so so good.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I got to open that the possibility all that.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, And you know, I grew as I said, I
remember Vampire Hunter D I remember Perfect Blue, I remember Akida,
Like these are the things and I am a massive
Ghosts in Shell person. I am a I love Ghost
and Shell and Ghost of Shell too. Innocence is one
I go back to all the time. Something about Boto
just that's a John Roka character, Like I like, immediately

(26:07):
love Batu as a character.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And I love that second film so much. So.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, some some other recommendations. Check out Runey Kenshin. It's
a little bit older, but I love that. Uh definitely
you Haka Show is Fire. Oh god, there was I mean,
anything Miyazaki. That's the only thing I think Americans know
as a whole on anime is they have they have
probably heard of a Miyazaki film at some point or other,

(26:31):
whether it's Totro or Princess Mononoke or a house moving
Castle or Kiki's Delivery Service. I guarantee they've probably heard
of at least one. Yeah, and he has his own
very unique Miyazaki style, obviously styling to his art. But
if at any point anybody has seen one of those
and went, wow, that was really good, do I have

(26:54):
a catalog of media for you? Hey, it only goes up.
It only goes up like it's that that is that
is the tip top of like peak. But there is
so much stuff that that that falls in that same
level of emotional depth.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I'd be time to explore it.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I've had many people over the years push me to
open the door to animes. It might be time to
explore it, you know, it might be time we'll see
or anything more to say on this, Winston before we
move on an the more you want to add to
the Demons layer, box office situation, or anything like that
over anime, I think.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
The only thing that makes me sad is because this
is now a trilogy of movies that are wrapping up
the series and it's not like, hey, we're doing something
that's kind of starting off here. The odds are the
box office for this is going to completely tank weekend too,
like worse than normal because all the people that know
of it, that wanted to see it have now seen it,
so you'll get some repeat customers. But like, my mom's

(27:49):
not going to this. She went to like Black Panther
because they're like it's what, Okay, cool, I'll give that
a shot, but like, this is not the thing because
anime again I think is now hitting another revolution and strite.
It's not there yet where I think that it's going
to bro It did another forty million, that's not I
don't see that happening.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, the numbers are, yeah, the numbers for the walk up.
It was clear that walk up on the opening weekend
was not strong. People had bought tickets ahead of time.
But the next day or I say, what was a Sunday,
I think they said, like, the numbers stayed strong. So
there may be some there may be better numbers or
less of a drop than people think going into a

(28:30):
second weekend, but we will see. That's going to really
let us know where anime is in terms of the
moviegoer's interest. I think the second week is going to
show us if it's if it's not a significant drop
compared to other anime films, then I think that's going
to open the door.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
For these studios to really go like, wait a minute,
we should get this in motion.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
And Star Wars is doing anime within visions every season,
so you know why not that?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I would? I like, like I said, I will, I'm
going to expect the worst here, not from being a pessimist,
but just from the standpoint of again, we're coming in
the middle of a story. This would essentially be like, yeah,
even though they're doing a trilogy with these, this would
be like releasing Return of the King. And unless you
had been somebody that was watching, you know, Fellowship in
Two Towers as a TV series for the last years, right,

(29:16):
you're interested in going, but everybody else can be like,
who the hell is this little gremlin over here trying
to take this little ring? What that about? Like you
would just be confused because that's the whole reason I
haven't gone to see it, because I since I haven't
seen the show, I don't want to walk into this
movie and genuinely just be lost. That's why I think
it's going to have that drop off, with the exception
of folks that want to see the second time, but

(29:38):
I don't think that's going to be enough to prevent
it from going. You know, it'll definitely that sixty percent
drop off, if not significantly worse, am I.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, that's why I haven't seen either, because I haven't
seen an episode of this, and everybody I read said
to me, it said, like, you can't even do like,
you can't even do like a previously on It's not
even going to be enough. There's so much to watch.
And even Dan Merle, who I hosted the show at CHRISTANH.
Holl Off Show with on Monday, he said to me,
He's like, I watched everything and I was still a
little lost in the movie. They introduced new characters in

(30:09):
the movie that you haven't seen before, and you're like, wait,
did I see this person before? Because they're talking with
him like he's been a part of the story the
whole time, and so it's all of that as well.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
It's involved. So yeah, that's good point there.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
You go, all right, well, let us know what you
thought about this conversation with anime. Where do you think
it's at, where do you think it's going, What do
you think about Demon Slayer's box office, and what are
the next steps should be happy? Let us know in
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Speaker 1 (30:41):
And comments on the air.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
All right, let's move on to some comic book news.
Speaking of superhero movie news, let's do this thing here
today they dropped a Fantastic four deleted scene because Fantastic
Worthing is coming out on Monday on Digital I think
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
And you've got Paul walter House.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's the scene with Paul walter House, Moleman and Venice
Kirby's invisible woman Sue Storm there. She is walking down
to talk to him about issues going on in the underworld,
and it does a highlight Winston. It highlights rather Winston
like where their relationship is. It furthers that relationship, but
it really just shows how much in charge of things

(31:19):
Sue is. What do you think of the scene, What
do you think of the back and forth and.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Why do you think it was cut?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I thought the scene was great. I thought that it
for a number of reasons. I think it shows for
those who don't know currently, Sue is kind of the
new leader of the Fantastic Four, and not because kind
of what they showed a little bit in the movie.
It's not because Reed isn't smart, but he's definitely. It's

(31:47):
kind of like the Ninja Turtles almost Donna Tello is
clearly the smartest of the Turtles, but doesn't necessarily always
have the social skills, the kind of strategic mentality to
lead a team and keep things together. Sue has always,
in that way been the glue, not only from the
standpoint of like the relationships of how stuff go, but

(32:10):
just like she can kind of anchor everybody. She get
her brother step back like an ass.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
She's one of the ones that really recognizes Ben's humanity
constantly whenever he wants to call himself a monster, She's
the one to be like, oh, you're not You're not
a monster, You're more than that. And being an anger
to keep read for otherwise reading being his damn lab
all day. Even I just thought of a whole other
thing and would do that. She has always been the
one to do it, so I thought it was a
natural transition to do that in the books, and I

(32:37):
thought they did it well in the movie. But this
would have, in my opinion, solidified it even more is
to see her actually out don't send read down there
and be like, you know, I can outthink you a
million ways more, man, I could whatever, but for her
to be like, what's the problem, what's going on? As this,
that and the other? Okay, well, don't make threats because
Johnny will burn everybody and I'll pop your brain with
the bubble bro I'll do it. But I hear you,

(32:59):
what what do you need? And then negotiating that sounds
exactly like the type of thing Sue would do. You
know what I'm saying. So I think it was a
missed opportunity. But I also understand if you're like, I
need to make this movie go a little bit faster.
I think the concern was we need to where do
we cut for time? And I think that that's why,
because you could still get by with the story without
seeing it. I just think it's a missed opportunity. I'm

(33:21):
with you.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I would like to have seen more. That's one of
the criticisms I've had about the movies. I wanted more
with Paul Walterhauser's Molemane. I wanted to explore this relationship
she had he has with Sue and the relationship he
has with Read, because we're kind of handed that in
the movie. If you haven't read a comic book, you
wouldn't know why Molman has an issue with Read and
what the whole problems are. And so I think the
film kind of failed at being able to convey that,

(33:44):
and so more scenes like this would have allowed them
to still kind of leave that out a little bit more,
but you got it because it would give you a
better understanding of their interactions and relationship temporately with Sue
and Moman. And Yeah, I thought it was a really
well acted scene. I thought it was well shot, and
I like the moment where her pregnancy kind of caused
her to stumble a little bit and he shows genuine care,

(34:06):
like what do you need?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Like even though they're battling about like who's gonna help
with the sewer system? And why is why aren't his
people involved with clearing up the sewage? He genuinely cares
about her, and so that was a nice little moment
that really could have worked to show that just because
you have difference of opinions, and you're very clear how
different your opinions are, doesn't mean you can't also still
be human with each other, so to speak. And so

(34:30):
I agree with you. I thought this scene was really good.
They should have included it, but yeah, probably cut it
for time. I do think this is ironically one of
those films they cut for time that worked against it.
They maybe should have added in a few more minutes
to really flesh things out a bit more instantly.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think that what they probably did is between her
early on at like the un and then her speech
to the crowds trying to call for Franklin's head, essentially
to like give up the kid, I think that they
were like, we've actually got two very big examples of
her showing her diplomatic side and showing she's a leader.

(35:04):
So which of these three least moves the story forward?
And it's a thousand percent the deleted scene. Yeah, I don't. Again,
I think it's a missed opportunity. You should have kept it.
But if you but if you were told I need
you to deleete one of the scenes that that's one
that is of those three that shows Sue in that position,

(35:25):
that is the one to delete because she won't get it.
But there's an argument to be made of some sort
of uh, you know, award acknowledgement for her speech about Franklin.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think that there are much stronger performances in movies
this year that I don't think that we're gonna see that.
But it gave me. It gave me Romanda vibes of
have I not given everything? There is the same thing
of like I'm not gonna give up my son, but
I'm not gonna give up my neighbors, like we're we
need like.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So, yeah, we didn't find that middle ground.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
That's a great point, dude, all right, So we'll see
what happens, what more we get, because I'm sure they're
going to release some more stuff here to pipe up
the film coming out on digital next week and Speaking
or Superman will be out on HBO Max on Friday.
So for those who missed it in the theater or
don't subscribe, or sorry he didn't miss it in theater,
or didn't want to get a digitally. You can now

(36:17):
watch it on HBO Max if you have a subscription,
so that'll be on Friday, so look for that.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Let's stay in the superhero realm. Let's talk about this Winston.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
This is Alex Prez over there at Cosmic Circus. He
was having one of his Patreon q and as you
guys should definitely check.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Iye, Alex. They have a good crew over there.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And he was asked about the Wanda situation in Avengers
Doomsday Andy, and he was asked here by Red Giardo's ten. Hey, Alex,
assuming it's she's in a what role will want to
play in Doomsday. In the past, you've hinted at a
couple of possibilities, including Wanda and Doom as allies, and
Magneto's quote family reunion. I'm curious how it all fits together. Well,
here's what Alex said in an unofficial capacity.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I heard, so that basically means he's heard the rumor
I heard.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
We'd be getting a Wanda variant from the X Man
universe that will see in Avenger's Doomsday, which is a
universe where Magneto is finally ruling Jenosha as he had
always pictured it, and we'd have like a quote royal
family type of situation with Eric, Pietro, Wanda and Polaris
this idea that has been pushed since Multiverse of Madness
and that Deadpool of Wolverine, but it never feels like

(37:17):
the right fit because it feels like it takes away
from the overall plot. However, the main point they would
like to explore with Wanda is the father daughter relationship
with Eric and certainly Whinston. That's something we've been missing
from the Wanda storyline, is Magneto.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
And so do you like this idea? They like this possibility?
Is this the reason Ian McClellan is coming back? What
are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Or I do? But I Genosha House M. Yeah, A
lot of that stuff is so deep and so emotionally tied.
I get concerned about trying to pigeonhole because that, to
me is why both Phoenix saga's live action Phoenix is failed.

(38:01):
You try to shove what is an entire saga that
is not that storyline is not a movie.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That is a saga from her getting the powers, saving
the universe, and then essentially the Phoenix being so addicted
to emotion, and especially Gene because of her high level
of empathy via her telepathy and all that kind of stuff,
gets drunk off of that power and starts to lose

(38:30):
her mind and then gets just as intrigued by all
other height and emotions. So murder and sex and all
these other things that are bringing emotions, and you try
to do that both times in a two to two
and a half hour long movie. That is absurd. That
is genuinely crazy. That is a trilogy by itself, if

(38:52):
not at least two movies, ye you know the like
Phoenix and then Dark Phoenix, Like that's at minimum it
should have been that, if not a whole ash trilogy.
So that being said, I don't love the idea of
a speed running genosha. Okay, I don't hate the idea

(39:13):
of introducing that kind of stuff. But then is Ian
sticking around like is are we are we keeping this
version of the of the Maximov family? Like what how
are we going about that? Because again, if you're just
gonna tease me with this and then take it from me,
I will riot at dawn.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well, I was looking at how old Ian McClelland is.
He is eighty six?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think Elizabeth is just barely in her late thirties
if I'm not wrong, So I don't know if he
would necessarily pass as her dad?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Right? What does she thirty six? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
So I wonder if it'll be Fastpener. I wonder if
it'll be Fastpen instead of Ian. And does Fastbenner stick
around as Magneto?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I don't know. And who comes back?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
We saw Evan peters in in the WandaVision series, but
will it be Aaron Taylor Johnson who plays Pietro and
who's playing Polaris, which I think will be interesting to
see that as well. I like this as an idea
and I like this as a concept. It's post but
but as we saw in Multiverse of Badness, that kind

(40:23):
of winking to the fans and then having them rip
their bodies into pieces and kill them all that left
a really bad taste in people, in some people's mouths,
and so I wonder if they're doing the same thing here. Yes,
it's cool to get the fan service, but if it's
not going to be fan service that makes sense, that's
organic and serves the story, then I think that's going
to undercut the movie so much, don't.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
You think I think it genuinely would, and I think that,
like again, that is something that would want to be
explored like I would when we when we get into
this next X Men saga, Post Seeker Wars No More Mutants.
House of m was was was so good and so

(41:04):
heart wrenching, and the idea that Wanda literally was losing
her mind, and like that was the other thing that
kind of sucked about Multiverse in my opinion, is you
teed up her to be genuinely distraught about losing her kids.
And he did a speed run through the idea of
She's getting back. I'm getting back, I'm gona getting back.

(41:25):
Watch me, I'm gonn get him back. For like the
number of things that she has done in the past
once she loses uh, you know, a billioned Oh my god, brain,
my brain just fried, wicking and speed I know, I
know the hero names. For some reason, I cannot remember Tommy.
There it is Tommy. The way she the lengths she

(41:47):
kind of goes to and all of that, and like
even lashes out at like vision at one point and
all that. But then it ultimately pushes her to use
her powers to the nth degree to make House of
M and then when ultimately that all comes undone and
it's mainly mutants that are like the X Men and
what not, being like, girl, what are you do? You
warped reality? And she's like, I made you a paradise,

(42:09):
you know what? Fuck it? No more mute and then boom,
you just literally evaporated like ninety ninety five percent of
the entire mutant population. It was absolutely crazy. So I
just don't I really, really really really do not need
them to truncad that build up and that breakdown. It

(42:35):
better be the entire story of the movie than and
doom is somehow manipulating thing. If that's what you're gonna do,
it better be the whole movie. Is not a B
or a C plot. That is an a plot ass storyline.
Don't do this.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
And as we're talking, my mind starts going and some
of the things you said here, if we do the
House of M thing, if we do that kind of stuff, like,
that's the same acually what was alluded to in Logan
that a version of House of M happened, which is
what led to Logan killing all these people that he killed,
and he's carrying the weight of it. So are they
gonna wrap Logan into Doomsday or into Secret Wars?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I wonder. I just wonder if they're going to do that,
because I know everyone's been.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Like, don't touch Logan, don't touch Logan, And certainly the
dead Point Wolverine essentially touched the logan, not too hard,
but essentially touched Logan. I would not be surprised because
it is under the Disney's purview that they would go
and connect things to Logan as well, which would be
fascinating to see if they see them do that, which
would scare me on so many levels, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. All right, we
got one hundred and fifty of you joining us right now.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
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Speaker 1 (43:55):
We will get to them near the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
All right, So let's keep going on Winslow talk about
oh yeah, you want to get into this, Let's get
into this, Let's let's get into this.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Let's get into these guys fake fighting before was some
real fighting in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
So you want to take this man.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Explain what happened here, because I, you know, sometimes I
don't put all the facts in order. Here what what
happened here today? On this on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
So Dame Dash had an interview on the Breakfast Club.
He wanted to come in because Charlemagne and DJ Envy, well,
we'll make a lot of reference to Dame, a lot
of stuff that you'll that'll come out in tabloids or uh,
you know, stuff on the internet, whatever, whatever, and some

(44:43):
of the real news. But Dame insists that it's all fake,
it's all being made up to mess with him and
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Right, So he.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Comes on and it feels like Dame is either on
something or his mind slipping, or maybe he just that
dude like that, but all sorts of almost feels like
conspiracy theories against him. And then starts throwing out stuff

(45:09):
that's just ridiculous, starts calling Charlemagne gay and says, I
don't think you were real version of masculinity. You know
what I'm saying. You you know you come you're your
og is Wendy william My og is this dude right here,
But yog's Wendy Williams right, and she working gossip. That's
a feminine trait, you know what I'm saying. You get
And he's like, do you have a problem with gay people? No,

(45:30):
I got no problem with gay people, but you gay?
He's like, and you're broke? Like they could literally came
a back and forth of just like him essentially calling
charl mag gay the whole time, Charlomgne calling him out
for being broke, having the starting to try and have
the conversation about okay, well you followed for bankruptcy, how
did that happen? Where was that coming from? Dame trying

(45:52):
to be like I know how money works. You don't
know how money work? Like it was insane and I've
only seen the first half hour of this like hour
ten long interview. Multiple times he tries to get up
and leave like birdman, like it just it was crazy.
It was kind of hilarious, but it was genuinely crazy

(46:16):
because it also reminded me of like the Soldier Boy
interview who constantly.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Was like no soldier drag.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Like it just was very just just my god, and
it makes sense why at a certain point it sounds
like jay Z was like, you know what, bro, yeah,
we're but like what he claims, I don't know if
this was announced it or not, but he claims an
interview he's the new chairman of Revolt Wow, which you

(46:43):
know if he is, you know, congratulations, but like at
one point, like he says it, it's not announced and
he goes and like they're they're talking about something else,
but he says that. They go, you're not gonna congratulate me,
and they go, you talk about something else, but congrats.
I guess, like I don't what. Like it's it's crazy,
it's genuine crazy, but it's if you want a good
laugh of just seeing somebody seem a little unhinged, it's

(47:06):
worth it to watch just for that.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I mean, it's crazy there here.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Let's I'm I'm seeing if I can play the clips
and if I can get away with stopping every five
seconds on the clips. So like this is this is
him like smacking away his hand when he tries to
hold his hand.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
No I'm not okay. Let's he tries to swing.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
People are and some of them are comfortable, some of
them are laughing, you know, but you see it clearly.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
But this went I mean, this section that they put
online is.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Like five months just going back and forth, and Dame
keeps getting up to they here, and he keeps complaining
that Charlemagne is cutting him off. And then every few
seconds he gets up, grabs his two phones, does his buttons,
back down again. It is a constant getting up and
there is again getting up, walking around and sit back

(47:58):
down again, getting up, walking out, sitting back down again,
getting up, walking up, sit back down.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Again, over and over, over and over again.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
So it is a fascinating situation that went down in
a hell of a watch for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But you know it.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
But the thing I want to talk about is the
accusations of masculinity, right, This is the conversations that we're
having nowadays about this stuff because there, I think we're
in a transitional place. There are people who still want
to keep us in this place. That masculinity is beating
people up. Masculinity is do you look like you can
beat people up?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
That's right. Dame even said, like.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
The way you run, the way you walk, and you
walk like a girl, you run like a girl.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Focused on there. So for those that aren't familiar with
this moment Charlotte Mane got at one point because he
talked a lot of shit. Yeah and as a matter
of fact, hold on, I actually think I have the
video I can play for you so quickly. Charlie man
has talked a lot of shit over the years, and
he was talking a lot of shit about little Kim.
Here we go, I mean okay, I mean hit share

(49:02):
And essentially he was outside the studio at one point
and people saw him and they came to just beat
the ever loving ship out Charlotte. Charlot Mane ran, oh yeah,
so here here it is real quick. So what Dame said,

(49:31):
Dame goes see a real man a room man, don't run.
A real man take either either wins that fight or
takes an ass whooping. What bro if my wife or
my child is also being attached to goddamn right, I'm
a fight five is by myself and potentially that like,
because you don't even know how far of an intention

(49:52):
they're willing to take it if they're about to kill
you or something like that, So you're gonna you're gonna
sit there and just take a five on one ass beating.
That's insane. That's not masculinity. That's being a fucking moron.
And like, in my in my opinion, to sit there
and take that. But again, it would be completely different
if like your family's there, then you fight to the

(50:14):
fucking day. I will sit there and I will take
the beating so that they can survive or some shit.
You know what I'm saying. That's completely different. That is
not what that was.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
No, No, and dame reference is like some I don't
know about this, but his battle with thirty guys who
apparently beat him up or knocked out his teeth or whatever,
And so I don't know how much of that is
true how much of it isn't. But yeah, I mean, like,
you know, standing there and fighting five people, that's sure.
I guess in some Sylvester Stallone Jason Statham movie it

(50:42):
really works. But in real life you could legitimately experience
terrible situations because again, you don't know how far these
guys are gonna go, and god forbid you start winning,
how far would they go to take you out?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
You know, unless my name is Bruce Lee dead lead
Jackie Chan, I'm not staying to fight twenty dude, Like
even even Jackie Chance says in almost everyone, I don't
want travel. He needs ever loving shit out of the
twenty dudes trying to jump in, but the whole time student,
but I didn't want travel, and then he leaves, like
you know what, I'm saying that he's not fighting because

(51:18):
he wants to. He's fighting to defend himself and because
he knows he's capable enough to do it. But even
in most of those, he's still kind of running away,
like you know what I'm saying, He's he's fighting enough
to run.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Like, yeah, exactly, he didn't want to get involved in.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
But I also think Charla Magne a little bit was
poking Dame on purpose, like he would feel it's his show,
he's in his home field and Charlotte. Instead of just
letting Dame go, he kept like undercutting and taking little shots,
and they seemed I thought initially it was just ball
busting between friends, but it's clear that at least from
when I saw that they're not friends, and it was

(51:54):
taken in a different way, and he just kept pushing
it right, and so it just went.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
But the calling him gay and.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
All that kind of stuff, I just thought that that's
just standard toxic masculine shit.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
You know, it doesn't really move the needle. And if
you have any masculinity and you you don't need to
step on other people to to inflate your masculinity. It's
just kind of weird how that's been that that mentality
has taken hold as a pushback to men nowadays being
more available to their emotions.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
You know, it's it's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, I mean it's I think, like a lot of
things we're seeing right now, there is this We've seen
it in a lot of like fantasy stuff in in
you know, like a Game of Thrones or whatever. This
idea of you see a creature like a claudiator is

(52:48):
a good example. You know, you're dying, like you can
feel the death rattle coming, but this surge of adrenaline
kicks in, and you're stronger than you've ever been and
somehow like even though you have mortal wounds, you're still fine.
That is what I feel a lot with everything from
the idea of the toxic masculine in the red pill stuff,
all the stuff that's being pushed right now now. Unfortunately,

(53:10):
I feel like a lot of the things that are
being pushed from you know, like taking back women's rights
and day rights and everything else. I think that unfortunately,
they're getting a little more ground, you would think, but
this is coming from a place of like, oh my god,
my way of life is going away forever. So it
is a final stand to try and push back, you

(53:32):
know what I'm saying. And so you're seeing a lot
of like old heads are random people saying shit like this,
and it's just like, all right, I guess, yeah, whatever,
Like there is a level of being tough sure that
I think that they're you know, sometimes society has gotten
a little soft and can't take criticism or lickings or

(53:56):
whatever else. But the that is not what is being pushed, right,
It's being pushed back to the full blown way of
how things were. And that doesn't make sense anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
And the people trying to, as I say, walk us
back into the stone ages with their knuckles dragging on
the concrete, that.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Is not going to help anybody.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
It's not going to help us at all, and it
is going to make this world a better place in
any way, shape or form. And most of the people
who pushed that kind of stuff like to be honest,
with you as someone who served, as someone who's known
quite a few dudes who are gonna take people out.
When I watch them crow about it, these are not
the most manly men who are out here screaming about

(54:37):
masculinity the need to return to masculinity. A lot of
them are dweaves and dorks, and so it's just like
they've just kind of, you know, what is it taken
on the mantle of this kind of masculinity. If him
other guys who have actually worked out, actually in shape,
actually are a Special Forces dudes, they've kind of co
opted that. And it's like, I look at you, and

(54:57):
I go nothing about you is man Like Jesse Waters,
ain't a goddamn masking in Bull and Night Dude's body,
Greg Guttfeld, I mean, come on, that little munchkin, get
out of it. These are not manly men that are
out here pushing this stuff. There are some, of course,
but most of the guys on that side of the
aisle pushing that toxic masculinity shit are a bunch of dorks.
And so I just think this is madness to see that.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
And the thing that's so crazy about it. A lot
of them that are pushing it that hard. They were
also the ones that their dad used to beat the
hell out of them when they were kids. Yes, part
of it is unworked out trauma that you can't let
go that literally, even though we don't talk about that
movie anymore because it's a little creepy and Kevin's basey
is extra creepy. That was kind of the whole point

(55:39):
of the neighbor in American Beauty. Oh, that was a
fully suppressed how he was raised and he was in
the military, and so he was beating his own son,
but he fully repressed his own homosexuality. And yes, that
made a very toxic, very violent scenario.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, it's amazing how if people suppress who you are,
how you might react if people try to reject who
you are for years, how you might react to that,
how violently you might react to that. It's amazing how
that can happen. Anyway, Yeah, let's move on from that.

(56:21):
Let's move into the sports section of our conversation before
we start getting into the NFL. Let's talk about this.
You wanted to talk about this. Paige Buker's here at
the Jennifer Hudson Show. I don't know how much of
this weekend show because it is their actual footage. She's
dancing down the aisle, which is pretty cool. You know,
people love her there and people love her in her

(56:42):
and she gets some money. It's cool.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
She'll take attention to herself. She just does her thing.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And then when she gets to the end here she
is apparently surprised. She is presented with the WNBA Rookie
of the Year awards. So Whinston, your thought this well deserved.
She wasn't a unanimous winner, but what do you think
of the way this was presented?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
She wasn't No, it was two other people.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Voted for the Maryland player Sonya Citron out of the mystics.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Oh, I mean, I guess I can see it, but
I don't think so. I mean, let me let me
for a second, because I I I. Yeah, the thing
is the things that page was doing. Yeah, we're in
the same vein of what we just saw Caitlin Clark do,

(57:38):
dropping insane forty point games and stuff like it was.
It was nuts, like absolutely nuts, and we got to
keep it a buck that Like, obviously Caitlin helped raise
that team, but how good that Fever team already was.
They were just a big piece away, and Caitlyn was
the biggest piece you could get. And so there you go,
and drew more people in and that's weather in the

(58:00):
playoffs now without her, Page did everything she could. Hear
her what was supposed to be either she was the
two to this number one or the one of this
number two in a rique. Yeah, got hurt and so
then she had to hold it down by herself. And
then they got the injury bug throughout the team. You
brought in uh lee leu and she gets hurt. Like

(58:21):
so Page did what she could. But the numbers she
put up were absolutely insane. Oh, let me pull her,
Let me pull her stats real quick. Where yeah she
You only can read it if you haven't.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
She was the starter in all thirty six of her
appearances for the Wings. She averaged nineteen point two points,
five point four assists, three point nine rebounds, in one
point six steals, while shooting forty seven point four percent
from the floor in eighty eight point eight percent from
the free throw line.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
She did she led.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
All WNBA rookies in total points, points per game, total assists,
and assists per game, and she was the only w
NBA player this season, who finished ranked in the top
ten in points, assists, and steal per game. And as
I said, she got seventy out of seventy two first
place votes for the Rookie of the Year award.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
So yeah, the other the only other thing with that
that's like kind of crazy to me is like if
you even look what she she shot, what forty seven
point seven from the field, she shot thirty three point
one from three? She shot? She shot eighty eight from
free throw, so she almost hit the the what is
it the fifth the forty ninety oh yeah, yeah, or

(59:34):
fifty whatever that number is and whatnot? She almost hit that,
which is crazy. And like I went to two of
the games that she played in, one of which she
said a career high, which, like, it's funny because Kelsey
Plumb was pissed me off talking about, you know, it's
not great when like you're at home and like people
are cheering so hard for the other teams, Like, no,

(59:56):
we're cheering for page what forty three? You don't like it?
Play some fucking defense? All right? My girl was cooking, bro,
And so she just was so incredibly phenomenal in what
she did, and it looked like she was genuinely surprised
because she noticed the commissions. She goes, oh, the commissions here,
that's cool, and she took another look and said, oh shit,

(01:00:18):
like she realized what was happening, which is pretty awesome.
She's gonna be a superstar man. And the only thing
I can wait for going forward is we're about a
year two years away from Juju also making it to
the DUB. So then you're gonna have Paige and Caitlin
and Juju all playing in the DUB with already incredible
players like Arique and Fee and Wilson and Kelse. Oh,

(01:00:42):
it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, and we might not see Angel Reese who knows, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Man, I mean to end that season. It's not looking
good for there in Chicago, but we'll see. With her,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
She's meant for something more than I think. I just
feel like she should go be an influencer, go be
a podcaster. She will make money without putting her body
on the line the way that she is. She's already
established herself, and I think there's more for her.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Outside of w THENBA, you know, I mean, I just
feel like that. That's just my opinions.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
No, No, no, I get it, but like, I think
we got to put respect on the fact that, like
I still understand that as a post player the numbers
should be higher, but she like genuinely went and improved
her shooting. She shout forty five point eight from the field, Yeah,
an average fourteen point seven, while still what was she
doing on board? So while still averaging twelve point six
on boards, Like, yeah, just for reference, obviously, Fi and Wilson,

(01:01:42):
you know, we're averaging significantly more points at twenty three
point four and twenty two point nine. Yeah, they're at
fifty point five and fifty three point one. And Angel
got herself all the way up to forty five point
eight when she was like at around twenty something last season.
I think there's something that has to be said about
how she actually did improve her game. But it's much
more fun to eight on her than anything else. It
doesn't mean she doesn't do herself some disservice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
At times, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
But there's respect this guy to be put in the
name that she really did improve this well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I just feel like she's been complaining about the WNBA
issues since she came into the WNBA, and look the
legitimate complaint. They're legitimate complaints. It just feels like this
isn't where she's happiest, So like for her mental health,
get out of here and go and do other things.
You're already an influencer, go and do other things. I
think you're going to be happier doing that, in my opinion.

(01:02:33):
Ours what a week two of the NFL, Winston your thoughts.
A lot of big games, including this Chiefs Eagles game.
Like you said, they're two and oh the Eagles, But
we also lost Joe Burrow to a toe injury for
about three months, so we'll see what Browning.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Can do there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Jayden Daniels has a knee injury. We'll see if he
will see if you see him on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Then you got J. J.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
McCarthy who was not playing well for the Vikings. He's
gone down as well. And so this is an interesting
weekend of stories.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
What stood out to you? What's the ones you want
to talk about real quick?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I think we officially have to put to bed for
the time being. This idea of Burrow being a leader
or just below that class. I think if you go
and look at Madden for example, Yeah, and they and
they love to do then try and keep it as
real as possible. That's why you have all the stats.
He's got all the stats for deep ball and accuracy
and and and all the kind of stuff that you

(01:03:29):
would want out of a quarterback. But his injury rating
is sky high. And like every other coach I've ever
had in a sport has said, your biggest ability is
your availability. If your ass is literally not playing over
fifty percent of the games each year, how do we

(01:03:51):
actually stand a chance of winning? Like? Why am I
paying you a jillion dollars for you to sit on
the sideline and get surgeries. Now, it doesn't mean that
I don't love Joey b and all that, and I
hope the best and I hope he gets better, But
I think it's officially done because part of it is
I think the Bengals fault in that they did not

(01:04:12):
put a good line for him for those first few years,
so he got destroyed. But I think at this point
his body has finally just kind of given out so
that these things continue to happen. Or maybe he was
forcing himself to keep going and in doing so caused
a different injury because he's overcompensating. Like, however, it's happening.

(01:04:32):
I think that he officially falls out of that category now,
which sucks until we see him come back healthy and
be around for an extended period. I think that conversation
is over, sadly, because even Dak has a bunch of
bad injuries. But I've seen him play at least a
season and a half to two seasons to three seats,
but then something happens, you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay,

(01:04:54):
we're back. Ooh, he's out for the next six weeks. Okay,
he made it. Oh we made the playoffs. Cool, ooh ooh, Okay,
all right, he's in. Oh damn, he's out for the season.
That's a knee air damn. Okay he's back. Oh he's
out for the next three weeks. Okay, we got we
gotta make a push a cut. I think that that.
I think the conversation there is unfortunately over.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
His season ended after ten games in his rookie year
with an ACLMCL and PCL injury and meniscus injury there.
Then in twenty twenty one, he played through a dislocated
pinky to get the Bengals to the Super Bowl, and
in twenty twenty twenty two he had some knee pain
throughout spraining his MCL and the Super Bowl loss, and
missed most of training camp in twenty twenty two. Then
in twenty twenty three he missed time in the preseason

(01:05:38):
after suffering a strained cap, and in Week ten he
tore a ligament in his right wrist, which was the
end of the season for him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
He came back, of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Course, last year and played well, but right now play
Burrow has played in seventy one out of a possible
eighty five games, which is around eighty four percent of
the time. That isn't so bad, but it is meaningfully
lower than Lamar Jackson, who played in one hundred and
five of one hundred and eighteen games, which is eighty
nine percent, and Alan and Mahomes, who are ninety six

(01:06:09):
percent playing one hundred thirteen out of possible one hundred
and eighty games. But if Burrow misses the next twelve games,
like it's being prognosticated, he will finish the regular season
having played in seventy four out of a possible one
hundred games. That's only seventy four percent, which is more
in line with Andrew Luck, and that is not the
company you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Want to be in because that was the same thing.
Andrew Luck is so insanely talented, but yeah, getting hurt.
It was a glass cannon. So it's like he's going
to throw for six hundred yards and six touchdowns on
your ass, and then the next game he throws for
one hundred yards and one touchdown, but all of a
sudden he doesn't have a leg, and so then he's
out for the rest of the sea. That you can't

(01:06:48):
you can't rely upon him in that regard, So that
bummed me out. I think the Chiefs dynasty is I
wouldn't say it's over, but it doesn't look good. I
know that Sean Sean has apparently very conveniently not been
around nowadays. Because we're finally, we have finally arrived at

(01:07:09):
this play. We felt like Max Kellerman that was trying
to say Brady fell off for years. Yeah, I think
we're finally here because they did not look good. Because
they they they better, they better push hard to see
if they can convince the Dolphins to release Tarik and
trade him because they need something. You have no vertical weapons.
Kelsey is not Kelsey anymore, but check has not returned
to form. Yeah, they's some interception. That interception was so bad,

(01:07:33):
so bad, it was right in his hands. That was
so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Uh, and then him throwing his helmet on the sideline
being all drama queen about it. That did not help things.
That did not help things. So, yeah, the Chiefs do
not look good right now. The Packers look definitely like
a formidable team again. They handle my commanders, no surprise.
We only have four days to prepare for him on
the road. But you know, they look good. But we
lost two players season in injuries, all Snickler and Wise.

(01:08:01):
Those are two good players on the team. So I
don't know where the why y'all traded away. Brian Robinson, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Don't think that was really stupid to me. It's exactly
what I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Was like, It was so stupid to me. Yeah, agreed, agreed,
could just just because you also know the rate at
which running backs have a tendency to get hurt, and
Eckler has already been hurt in the past. Yeah, so
that that doesn't make logical sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Mac Jones stepping in for Party played really well as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
It's pretty out for an extended period or was it
just that week for the next three weeks? Oh wow, okay,
well good for mac Jones on that, because yeah he
did pull out. But the Saints aren't good. So that
is what it is. Someone tried to be like, hey,
you need to be scared the lines out. No, you
beat up on the Bears. The Bears are also not good.
If you if you bust a fifty two pointer, like
the next time you see Green Bay, if that's what

(01:08:51):
you do to them, all the all the props in
the world, like let me, let me, let me see
Detroit plays real quick, and let me say, any of
these teams, if you bust a fifty two pointer on it,
you can get props next this coming week. If you
do that to the Ravens, I will say, you're gonna
win the Super Bowl, all right, But you're not dropping
a fifty two piece, a fifty two to twenty one

(01:09:11):
on the Ravens. That's not happening, or even the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
That's a one two punch of defenses that if you
can drop fifty to on both those teams.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
And okay, you can be in the conversation again, but
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Against the people wanted to say the Bears are like
a playoff contender now because you went and you got
Ben Johnson and kleb is now is his time to
shine and you got all these weapons and whatnot. Until
the Bears actually show me something instead of what's on paper.
Miss me with that shit, because then you just sound
like Cowboys fans just delusion, will be like this is
our year, fam, No it's not. It's never our year.
And like, I loved that game that we played. But bro,

(01:09:46):
you gave Russell Wilson five hundred plus yards and five touchdowns.
Like that's not good. All right, that's good on you
for having the resolve to finish, because the old Cowboys
teams would not have. But that's that's not good. We
have a lot of injuries, but that's not good. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
So Tuesday and moon balls of his man, it's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
It's like watching playground ball and you're like, he just
heaves it up in the air and hangs there for
like thirty minutes before it comes down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
It's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
It's it's it is and he's he's the best in
the game at doing it. But I think part of
the whole thing truthfully for just being real. Yeah, I
mean we are littered with injuries. You just paid Bland
and then Bland like broke his foot or something like
you know what I'm saying, like you do. And on
top of that, you literally traded it away a generational
talent pass Rusher. So you're giving what Jalen Hurts and

(01:10:35):
Russell Wilson, Yeah, all day to decide. Am I gonna
throw this crazy ball? I'm just gonna run it up
your throat like that has to change. So we've signed clowney.
I don't clowny to me. I don't think that that's
gonna be as much of a hooray as they think
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
But there's a reason he was still hanging out there,
you know, there's a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
There is a reason. And last last little bit, Miami
needs to fire McDaniel immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
And they gotta get go to Tua is clearly having
concussion issues, bro, like you gotta get rid of them both.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
They're both done. They're both done, toast, absolute toast, like
you absolutely done. They both gotta go and to the
touch Bush has to go. After finally seeing in slow
motion how much false start bullshit happens. Nah, Bro, that's
and then and people are gonna be like, oh, if
you could do it, you would do it too. It's

(01:11:28):
like yeah, but if it's legitimately cheating now, if that's
what we're talking about, then no, if y'all cannot do
it without committing heinous false starts, you don't need to
be doing it at all. It's gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I think that was Frankie Luvu's way of protesting it
last year, like by jumping over constantly getting those off
side calls because he was he knew.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
He was like, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
They're they're absolutely false, starting every single damn time and
getting away with it. So I'm gonna fuck with them,
you know. And I think there was a nice little protest.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
In that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
I think you were right about your buck ears. Man
Mayfield had that hushbah to bring them all the way back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
You had that dog in him to win.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
That game last night against those Texans. Texans looked in Trump,
the Taxans looks, I mean, shout a bus now, bro Territory,
bro Stroud is absolutely trouble Law's territory.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
There's no way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yeah, yes, God, and you know what it is, It's
so funny, bro. It it reminds me of Maclamore. Maclamore
was kind of on this tear right, and I didn't
I'd never really rocked with them. I always thought he
was corny, but he was on this tear and then
he won, then he won a Grammy and then went

(01:12:40):
out and dropped leak texts to Kendrick being like, it
shouldn't have been me, dog, it should have been you.
I don't know what they were thinking. These white people
are crazy, man, This is so nuts, bro. First of all,
that's weird to send those texts in the first place,
but to put that out in public is crazy sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
And c J.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Stroud's version of that right after being on Kayleb Williams,
Hey man, look and once you've been in this game
a while, you got a little bit of experience, man,
all of a sudden, that's gonna be it. You're gonna
You're just gonna click for you. You're gonna be that
guy like I'm that guy. You just need to keep
on hustling, hustler and you'll get their playboy. And guess
what happened to CJ. Stroud pretty much after that got
caught on camera when they were hugging at the end,

(01:13:21):
and shit, he has been due to water since that conversation.
He karma. I think that Caleb Williams hired the Witches
that have been going very viral for like a bunch
of hexes they've put out in the world or whatever.
I think Caleb Williams hired a similar hecks on CJ.
Stroud being like, may he never be prosperous again, and

(01:13:41):
then all of a sudden, just making bad decision after
bad decision.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I'll tell your team to look out for and look
Daniel Jones and those Colts. I guess you gotta start
thinking that they might be for real.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
And I think the Cardinals, man, watch out, Kyler Murray.
They've been playing well last couple of games, so I
wonder if they may be a contender in that division
beyond playing just five hundred ball. I wonder. I just
have a feeling about the Cardinals and the Cults. I
need you to take a step back and look at
who they played. Don't do this, don't do this. I need,

(01:14:18):
I need you to take a step back. They played
the Saints, who we have all admitted was going.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
To be bad. Yes, and the Panthers, who have remained.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Bad bout Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yeah, but on the other side of the Colts, the
Denver defense, that's a strong defense, and Daniel Jones made
mince meat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yes, it took a penalty call to save the game,
but still.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
I will give them beating the Broncos. But we already
just said the Dolphins were bad. So we got one
legitimate win and one I'll give it to you, also
legitimate because it was an ass whooping. It was thirty
three to eight, So I will give you both of
those wins. Right. Titans are also bad, so they're probably
if they lose this game, that's not good on them,
even if it's a division But they should win this game.

(01:15:02):
So their first major challenge is going to be the Rams,
which the Rams look good. They don't look great. They
look good though, so like I don't see a real
threat to the Colts until we get to the Chargers. Yeah,
so that's one, two, three, four. They stand to essentially
be six to ohero before they fight place play a

(01:15:24):
real team.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
I think the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Schedule is doing them a lot of favors their schedules
right now, because like the Titans are not gonna offer
any problem. The Raiders aren't gonna have a problem. The
Cardinals might be a tough matchup to find how good
the Cardinals are. And then you said the Chargers are
right Titans, No, Steelers might be dogshit by the time
they play them. I mean, we finally saw who the
Steelers are for real against the Seahawks over the weekend.

(01:15:47):
I mean, everyone's crowing about them last week because they
scored that many points on the Jets, but there was
a gave up that many points on the Jets, and
we saw how bad that defense is now. And Tomlin's
in trouble, dude, and Rogers is going to start curning
on this team. Count listen, mark my words, five games,
he'll start making pass aggressive comments about the defense or
about the team or Tomblin's coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Mark my words, five games or less, I'll be doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Absolutely. But the Colts, here's the thing. They're probably a
dark horse right now. Yeah, to be a top one
or two seed potentially because of the strength of schedule.
It's just not like it's an NFL game any given Sunday.
I get that. But if we're just calling a spade
a spade, of talent on a team, coaching, all that

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kind of stuff. They do not have a hard schedule
because even you look at the Chiefs that you would
look at it and go, damn, you're definitely losing that.
The Chiefs look vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
As hell right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
So that was like another big test that may not
be like it depends on what the Chiefs do, if
they make trades, if they bounce back, whatever's going on.
I'm not I look at this. I'm not worried about
them for anything. Maybe the Seahawks, maybe the forty nine ers,
but that's at the end of the year where you've
probably already locked up the fact that you've won the Vision.

(01:17:01):
So I don't know, man, I don't know. I I I.
We both had Daniel Jones in our division. I am
the Giants are just bad. But you're telling me you're
scared of Danny Dimes now, is that? Is that what
you're telling me?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I don't know, you know, you know, and they get reborn.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
But Baker needed some time to do that. You're telling
me that Daniel Jones did that in two seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
That dysfunctional Giants organization. Man, you know, we just maybe,
but he seems like a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Nice little goofball for for his sake. I hope that's
the case, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Two games is not enough of a of a to
do that, or or or quality win either.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I just love the fact that we're you know, the
NFL is back, man, We're back in the knee deep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
The craziness of all this stuff, so many stories. All right, well,
let's it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Let's get into the questions here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
But I do we do want to say one last thing,
and that is, of course, a melancholy rest in peace
to Robert Redford, who passed away today. Is one of
my acting and directing and basically Hollywood heroes but also
human being heroes because he supported so many great causes,
used his platform to make change, and also was really
great at what he did as his first vocation, which

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was acting and directing, winning the Oscar forordinary people and
delivering classic films like Butchcassie and Sundance Kid and The
Sting and The Natural, so many great films. So yeah,
just the sad passing away of Robert Redford, and of
course started.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
The Sundance Film Institute. It for many careers Winston.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Yeah, that's that's absolutely amazing, you know. I also just
feel did's sad to see that happen. I at least
appreciate the fact that at this point, the more the
more legends that we're losing just because of old age.
He really feels kind of like a relief because it

(01:18:59):
feels like a lot of stuff is just going sideways.
Either we're losing legends too early like a Chadwick type situation,
or right because of the volatile world we live in,
some wild happens, you know. So I am obviously sad
to hear the news. I wasn't as big of a
Redford fan like for me, I want to say the
biggest like I've seen him and stuff, but the biggest

(01:19:20):
one that sticks out for me is him and Winter Soldier,
which I thought it would a great job as Alecander Pierce,
but I don't. I don't have as much of a
connection as everybody else does. But rest in Peace for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Absolutely three days of condor so amazing stuff. There's so
many amazing films that he made.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
And I would doing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I think I'll be doing a live show tomorrow with
me and Steve Morris from the centifiles talking about Robert Reford,
his career and his effect on us. So or it'll
be pre recorded. We're figuring that out depending on the schedule.
I have set up for the channel tomorrow, so look
for that as well. But let's get into the questions.
Rest in peace, Robro Oh yeah, go ahead, brother.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Before we get into the questions, I would also like
to point out here, yeah, Daniel Jones in particular, that
happens to do that well no, oh yeah, because I
needed to I needed to check something and I realized
this because of fantasy, and I happen to have this
other player here. Daniel Jones in particular has a tendency
to have these games where he looks like he's a
god because he has a running back that is on
legendary mode, is on all playing. It feels like the

(01:20:17):
running back is playing all rookie. So it opens things
up for Danny Dimes. So it was Saquon back in
New York. Whenever Saquon got hurt. Did you see how
quickly the Giants went to dog shit Welles who Daniel
Jones has in Indianapolis, Jonathan Taylor, who in this last
game at one hundred and sixty five yards on twenty
five carries. All right, so and then another fifty through

(01:20:39):
the air and a touchdown. I think that Danny Dimes
maybe just has some really good ass running backs around
him and that allows him to be able to say,
throw it out there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
All right, all right, now, I'm off it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
You might be right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
We'll find out for sure as the week's gone. All right,
let's get through these. I know we had limited times.
What's your time limit here, Winston. I'm okay, I'm not
I'm not in a rush. So yeah, we need to
go a couple of minutes over and over deal these.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Chris Corkin says Trump's face was at half mass that
nine to eleven Memorial. I mean, look, it did look
like he had a stroke. But it looks fine now.
But it did look like he'd had some something going
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
It did not look it did not look good. And
then it looked like either it was an AI message
fully that he delivered about Kirk, or it was AI edited.
That was not a good look. Whoever did that. That
was a bad decision.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, that speech was absolutely AI. Oh my god, please,
jamb says Broka.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I know the live action may have sured you on it,
but I think you really love Cowboy Bebop anime.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Maybe you and Winston could do it to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Is one of the best ever to do. It is
so so good. There's a reason why it wasn't. It
wasn't just you man. People that love Cowboy Bebop hated
the live action adaptation. Give it a shot. It is that.
That's actually where I would tell you to start. It's short.
I want to say, it's only like twenty five episodes.
Maybe hold on, you can ask the next question, but
I highly recommend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Uh Vincent's waba says or r I Peter Robert Redford
favorite movies of his Well, I think I list of
them all. I mean The Natural is my first one,
always every time. That's the first time I ever saw
Robert Redford anything as a as a young a young
team and so everything after that though, just amazing discovering
his work all the President's met another incredible performance and
very topical what we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Yeah, twenty six episodes, okay, easy, that's half a year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
That's not bad.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I can do one a week, you know, if you
want to do that. Yes, you could, but you'll get
I will get it. Well, you' that's that's also fair.
I was gonna say, you'll get oh if you if
you're gonna do a reaction, I actually think that that
would do. That would do Gangbusters. Then you should like
it's yeah, that is that is it is. It is
one of the most beloved animes of all time. And
then again it's easy twenty two minute episode, like it

(01:22:52):
was a standard show. So twenty two minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Yeah, oh do it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, because it would be I could record it on Monday,
edit it through the week, and put it out on
the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
It's very pause or on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Vince Was's broke a recommend attack on Titan. You would
love it, Thank you, Vincent. Yes, other people have recommended.
I will absolutely be circling around to that because I
do like anime. KENJ said thoughts on Molly Curb's departure
on first Take? Do you still watch for his take?

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Still? Will Steven a Hi hire his daughter Samantha to
replace Molly?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
I mean maybe, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I wasn't the biggest fan of Molly.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Then I became a fan of Molly because of all
the stuff I heard about behind the scenes dealing with
steven A. So but I'm shocked that she just walked
away like I'm not coming back anymore. That is a
little surprise to see that. But maybe she's got a
better offer or something happened. What are your thoughts here?

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
I mean here, I actually pulled this really quick because
stephen A. Stephen A did give a small little spiel
on his show, so let me do the share because
I also thought it was interesting that it seems very abrupt. Yeah,
but this is what this is what steven ann to say, Oh,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
She abruptly resigned probably of the show, and to say
that I'm quite sad about it. As an understatement, Molly
is a friend, Molly is a coworker. Molly is somebody
that I have leaned on on many occasions in the past,

(01:24:20):
as she has done when it comes to me. We've
been partners on the show for the last ten years,
and a lot of times some of these things happen,
and it's just uncomfortable to see.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
The details quite frankly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Are none of y'all business. It's not as if I
know all the details. It was a contract negotiation that
was going on. ESPN certainly did not want to lose
her but in the event, but in the end, rather
she made a decision to walk away from the show
effective immediately, as you see from her Instagram post.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
So yeah, yeah, it sounds like something broke down in
contract negotiations. Either she wanted a lot more money or
time or whatever it was. Something didn't go right and
we ended up with a Micah Parsons type situation. Yeah,
but in this case, instead of being traded somewhere else,
you just said final, just I'll step away.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Yeah, clearly something happened, like some something happened. Maybe it
was contact negotiations, maybe it was something else, Maybe something
was said. Maybe all the political fervor this week, like
the emotions are running high, you know, who knows. But yeah,
to abruptly resign at ESPN, that's almost unheard of, you know,
and it's usually.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
You're kicked out, it's not that you resign immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
So I wonder what the I wonder what this means overall,
And maybe she just got sick of steven A, which
is very possible as well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
It would be as simple as that, you know, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
All I know is looked she was incredibly talented. She
was fine as hell, Like she was very good at
at raining things in. Yeah, I'm sad to see her go,
but you know, I I wish Molly the best. I
hope whatever is next on the docket for her is
even better than what she's done here in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
And she rolled with stupid ship like this ship that
happened on on on was it?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
They were trying to get her to bend over the
high in the NFL network oh way back in the day.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Yeah, like I ain't doing that my leopard.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah, she rolled with it, with the stupid male ship
that goes on in the world of sports man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
So god love when she married to Jalen Rose, Oh
is that her?

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Yeah? So like you know, she she you know, she
dealt with she dealt with the Tom Foolery.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
I love Jail. I'm always gonna love Jail.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
I love Jalen, but I but I but that's the thing, Jayleen,
Jayalen been been just like Tom Foolery.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
And Jamie says, anime does that ship wins the day
Marshall twenty twenty five, kJ says it's a fifty year
old black man. Can Winston explain how you never saw
The Last Dragon?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Winston? Have you seen The Whiz and the Color Purple?
Big fan of you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Guys' fifties, I'm definitely not fifty at all. I'm not
even close.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
To fifty fifty. He's fifty, and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Oh maybe kJ is fifty's that's possible. But I answered
this actually on Capes and Cows. Essentially, what it is
is that I was born in eighty seven. My parents
were not in the movies like that. So I saw
The Wiz in Color Purple because those are two of
my mom's favorite movies. But they just did not watch movies.
So I have a massive gap in my movie knowledge
for eighties and earlier, with exceptions. Then in the nineties,

(01:27:41):
I'm a child, so I'm not looking for the Godfather.
I'm seeing the Ninja Turtles movie and then putting it
in my VHS one hundred times. So right around ninety
eight ninety nine is where my movie like knowledge and
acknowledgement started to grow and flourish. And I've gone back
and seen stuff. But The Last Dragon is very much
a cult classic. This is not something that gets talked

(01:28:03):
about the way boys in the Hood gets talked about,
you know, what I'm saying the way Shafts got talked about.
It's it's it is. It was hilarious and it was
a good time. But let's not pretend like this was
an Oscar winning movie or or like Star Wars level
of like fa you know what I'm saying, So like
that's that. So when people keep saying that, I'm like, Okay,

(01:28:25):
cool show Enough that I'm glad I finally know what
that's from.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
But like, come on, now, even black nerds have their gatekeeping.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Like hey, if you haven't seen Last Dragon, you can't
be one of us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
And it's like, no, come on, I don't even I
don't even THINKJ is like fucking with me like that.
But I but the number of black people say take
his black haw I was like, I like, cool, I'm
gonna go find a black movie you ain't seen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Kiss my ass, Like yeah, I remember I lived through
the Black Dragon time. I was a teenager when I
came out. I remember that was like a guilty pleasure
because it was not received that well and it didn't
do that well the box office, you know, but the
the iconography of Show Enough, and I think it was
Barry Gordy's son or grandson who was a cousin or
whatever it was who was the main kid. So it

(01:29:09):
has it has a place, but I don't think it
should be, you know, the black card provoking type of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
I don't think that movie is nearly enough to do that.
It was, it was great. I really enjoyed it. But
but there are so many other black movies that have
happened the seventies and eighties and nineties that take precedent
over to the last rack. And even though it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
As hell, it's telling me Taco bell is Latino food.
Come on now, it's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
I don't know if it's inspired God Latino inspired. kJ.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Did you guys get to the highest Highest Low to
lowis yet? Did you see High Low the original? I
was disappointed in Spike's version. Script needed work, Yeah, kJ,
I said this on the show a few weeks I
saw it four weeks ago, three four weeks ago. I
liked it for what it was because it's very Spike
Lee from the nineteen nineties, like Mobetta.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Blues type Spike Lee. It was nice to see that. Again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
I don't think the acting for some of the characters
was that strong. Actors was that strong. But Jeffrey Wright
and Denzel and asap Rocky were excellent and carried me
through the movie. So I enjoyed the film for the experience,
but I think the script definitely need to work.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
I'm not going to deny that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
I haven't seen it. It's on Apple.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Right, Yes, it is on Apple now, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
So I'll get I'll get to it eventually. It just like,
I love Denzel and I love Spike, but it's it
wasn't high on my list of things to go rush
to go see. It felt like and I'm not familiar.
I'd love me some Cursawa as well. I actually haven't
seen High and Low, so I didn't have that connection
to pull me into it. And it just kind of
looked like Black Taken was what was the vibe I

(01:30:49):
was getting, Like, not to be a dick, That's what
I was getting. I'm not saying it wouldn't be good
with Spike directing and Denzel being there, but I just
was like, it sounds like another Taken film. I don't
I'm good on that right now. But if people had
been blown this is fantas, then I would have been
there instantly. I didn't hear it like that. I heard
mixed reviews, so just lower on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
It's a social commentary film about the difference between the
haves and the haves nots. It's more commentary on that.
It's not about giving back my son like Ransom or whatever.
Now it's more and much It's much more about like,
why do you have so much when I have so little?

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
It is it okay for you to have so much?

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
And why aren't you addressing the fact that you have
so much when people have so little?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
And so I liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
That's the general theme of the first the original one
from course out as well, so carried over into this one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Yeah, it's almost almost a different angle because it's a
crime thriller. But it reminds me a lot of parasite
then that that's kind of the same mentality energy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Yep, I would agree has that kind of energy for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Reggie Brown, we see him be getting closer closer to
the Civil War that came out last.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Year that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Unfortunately, I hope we don't ever get there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
So, yeah, that's going to be crazy you, I hope
it doesn't happen. Indeed, my mood isn't Daniel Dustin Kranton
doing a NAUTO movie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
I don't know, is he.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
I had heard that, but I don't know, because there
were there were there were talks about that happening Naruto.
I don't know. I didn't say movies, let me try
this live action, but there was there was talk like
there was then this random rumor that, yeah, Lionsgate is
developing a live action film with Dustin Daniel Creighton. But

(01:32:30):
then there was like a rumor that they were going
to cast Tom Holland as Naruto. I will slap somebody
silly if they don't. I understand that Naruto is blonde
haired and blue eyed, but I will fight somebody if
you try and make Tom Holland Naruto.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
That is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Wow wow uh okaj says for the new NBA season,
are you already subscribed to all the streaming channels for
the games?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
How do you feel about the NBA streaming games? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Yeah, I mean yes, I'm already subscribed to those channels,
but I don't I don't never. I never get the
NBA A League pass, but the other channel, for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Uh, where are you on this one?

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Because what is it? It's it's uh Peacock. Well, let's see,
let's see where can.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
You watch all the networks streaming NBA games?

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Oh whoops, that disappeared. So what uh peacock, ESPN.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Yes, it's p yeah, uh uh oh shit, all these ads?

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Okay, here we go. How to watch it in twenty
two or five? And what is it going to cost you? Okay,
so spoilerered eight hundred and eighty dollars if you want
to watch everything. God damn, that's more than the league
ticket or Sunday ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Okay, monthly cable satellite or whatever. So YouTube TV, Fubo,
Hulu with live TV, whatever, whatever, blah blah blah. So
something in that range to kind of start. Because national
games with local games ESPN Wednesday and Fridays part of
your cable streaming package, ABC part of your cable streaming package,
NBC part of your cable package. Peacock's gonna have games Sunday, Monday,

(01:34:02):
and Tuesday. Amazon Prime is gonna have games Thursday, Friday
and Saturday. Yikes, that is a lot. Yeah, so I
have Peacock, I have Amazon Prime. I'll be using my
mama's direct TV stream, so maybe that'll give me some
of them. We'll see what happens. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
It's a lot, It's a lot. Brian Brown says, black,
what's up broken?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I don't know if that was a reference to Abbot Elementary,
but I'm gonna assume it was that. That was one
of the funniest about Have you seen you see the show? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
I love the show? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Do you remember that moment when what's his name, the
white gay teacher or whatever he keeps talking about his
boyfriend over and over again, and then it was the
big the heavier set black. Hey, all they go black.
I mean, I know it's actually pronounced sack, but.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
That was great. I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Love that man, h I love his I love the
journey that his her ex boyfriend has gone on, like
from like being a loser and was sponging off her
and now him being part of the PTA and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Whenever he pops up, he is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
He's hysterical, you know about him prior to the show,
right aware of it. Recently he's he's a legitimate rapper,
but he does kind of like goof rap shit, look
up the song. Hold on, I'm gonna find the name
of the song, and you gotta listen to it afterwards
because it is one of the funniest songs maybe ever. Okay,

(01:35:33):
oh my god, yeah, yeah, but but no, he is
He's awesome. I'm a big fan of his.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Yeah, love his comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Reggie Brown says we about to hit nineties versiones of
the w with c c Page, Juju Sabrina I and
escu Isjah Wilson, Cameron Brink, Riquia Jackson, and the FISA
call You're all stars, all Star Hall of Fames on
every team. Yeah, hall of Famers on that's a fair point.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
I agree. Oh, Jesus is the one I Got Depression.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
That's the name of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Jesus is the one I Got Depression.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Now listen to it later.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
It's short too, It's like I've bitted in fifty three seconds.
It is one of the funniest.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Songs, like I Got Zach Fox got it respect.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Uh, yes, well, I mean, I'll say this, it depends
on how CC comes back. These injuries have been legitimate
for Caitlyn. So are these injuries because she was weightlifting
in the off season and her body just kind of
was more was less fluid and so got injured or
did she you know, start this path of injury for herself.
It could we could be looking at Joe Burrows situation, Bro,

(01:36:42):
which I think would be heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
To see the Caitlyn for the sake I mean, obviously
for Kaitlyn's sake, but for the sake of the league.
I really hope that's not what happens. Because if that's
what happens, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Yeah, possibly as good as everyone is, the ratings will
go down.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
I don't doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Es thirteen says Dames rhetoric is common among gen X men,
especially black men. I know because it's in my family.
I don't blame women his age dating younger men.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Loll.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Tracy Ellis Ross openly admitted she's like, I don't date
any men my age because most of them have that
same mentality or they can't deal with the fact that
I have been incredibly successful and I'm incredibly rich. So like,
I date younger men because they treat me right and
like talk to me properly, dig me down like she
was just I was like, damn, Tracy, I mean, okay,
an do you but good for you for also acknowledging

(01:37:31):
and knowing that about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yeah, I would expect the daughter of Diana Ross to
not be a wallflower, so I'm not surprised that she
has some strong opinions there. Uh well, when Edwards was that,
Fellas was up waighing. Great to see your brother. Always
love to see your brother, Roca. I am a casual
anime fan, and the ones I love are older. That
being said, I'll recommend Samurai X Ninja, Scroll Ghosts and
show both movies. I've seen those, and Cowboy Bebop one

(01:37:54):
of my favorite TV shows. Okay, those a good recommendations.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
The way to go, man, I think that's a good
stry point.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Let's do it, man, fuck it, It's time I need
something new. Vincent's was a Robert reverord of Paul Newman,
best duo ever. Yeah, sadly both gone now too as well.
So yeah, good points, Vincent, Wayne back again, thank you Wayne,
hearing about the death of Robert Everard was a gut punch,
one of my favorite actors ever, one of the first
faces I recognized on the TV screen when I was
a kid in the seventies. He and other actors made

(01:38:22):
me fall in love with film. Yeah, for sure, you know,
and he only did so he didn't do a lot
of it. That's the thing when you look at his
resume in the last few decades, not a lot of films,
so that when he was in a film, it was
a big deal, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
And like in Winter.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Soldier, he did that All Is Lost movie, which I
think is amazing. Almost no dialogue in that film, is
incredible acting performance. And his last one was An Old
Man in the Gun with him and Sissy's basic incredible performance.
Really touching, small little films. So yeah, yeah, But because
he was doing all these other things, running an institute,
you know, doing these causes. Very busy man, all out

(01:38:58):
of Utah, by the way, out of you. Yeah, yeah, Doug,
development was up, Doug says Broke. At what point during
the nineteen ninety one NFL regular season did you feel, yeah,
my Skins are definitely winning the Super Bowl November December,
right when there was zeros on the time o'clock after
the Super Bowl was over, that was the time when
I felt with.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
The Bills were crazy. Yes, yes, the Bills were insane.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I knew we were special the first couple when we
whipped the Lions and I think we whipped the Dolphins
in the first couple again, and I was like, I've
never seen us like this, And then the way we
just kept marching through everybody, and hey, what was the
first loss we took the Dallas Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
That was and we lost at home.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
We were eleven to zero when we lost that year
to the Cowboys, which broke just made me crazy. And
then we lost the egos when we played all our scrubs.
But then we rolled through the playoffs. But the Bills
were scary. The people forget just because they've lost these
four super Bowls. In contemporary time, the Bills were fucking
scary with the amount of weapons they all on both
sides of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
They were scary.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
Bills were insane. Bro Yeah, Bills. The Bills were smacking
people around because like people talk about the last time
Kansas City was kind of relevant, it was around that
time when they had that defense that like was no
nonsense and would would like shit, And they what thirty
seven to fourteen as the last time Buffalo beat Kansas
City in the playoffs. Do you know what I'm saying?
Like it was our buffet seat, Yeah that Buffalo be

(01:40:24):
Kansas City in the playoffs, But like, yeah, they were
they were just rolling. And so that's why it was
so shocking for them to legitimately lose four super Bowls
in a row. That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
And in fact, I forget that because I finished watching
the Cowboys Doc Brother, and I forget that they had
a real shot at winning the in the rematch with
the Cowboys, Like in that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Third quarter there, it was really a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Yeah, if Kelly hadn't gone down, there's a real chance
they could have squeaked out that victory over Switzer's Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
But they didn't in the end. And that's the way
it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Because we could have been talking about the Bills like
we talked about the Patriots, like people could have been
if they had won all those super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
People would have.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Said, Jim Kelly is in there as the greatest quarterbacks ever,
like top five, maybe top ten. You could legitimately make
that case if they had won those super Bowls. It's
crazy how life is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
The other thing that I just realized, I forgot the
Bills because they because that was the thing. They were
the one seed the year before, so you were the
second defeat. We hit them with two in a row.
But these dudes, they lost to NFC East, Yes, like
the NFC East representative yep, every single time, all four

(01:41:40):
losses like that. The Giants won the division their year,
they win the super Bowl. You win the division, you
won the super Bowl. We win the division both time.
We win the super Bowl, all the expense of the bills. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
If it had been from any other division, they might
have won one of these, you know for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Prent says the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Tom Holland would be a great show you here, not
from MIIQ if they ever decided to do a live version.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
HIQ is volleyball anime. Fyi, Oh, I didn't know that
volleyball anime.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
There's there's a lot of really great sports animes, a
lot of great like slam dunk, great basketball. I'm a
big fan of. Oh my god, what is it. It's
Koku's basketball. Hold on, I gotta remember the name of it. Kroake, Yeah,
Kroko Croako no basket Orka. Kroko's basketball is essentially, uh,

(01:42:31):
this kind of weird kid. He's like a little bit
of a owner. He played on this team called the
Generation of Miracles, and essentially each of the players is
the absolute best at what they do. So the center
not only it's like Shack esque blocks everything does crazy
dunks on people. The shooting guard is essentially Kobe. He's

(01:42:53):
just out here just embarrassing folks and making circus shots.
The point guard has something called like the Emperor's eye.
He's able to see the field in such a way
that he makes the perfect pass every time that instantly
goes in. There's a three point shooter that's essentially supposed
to be Ray Allen if he was Japanese had glasses
and green hair where he he he hits every single

(01:43:13):
long distance shot you could possibly make. And then the
the power forward on the team was actually a he
was He was like a clone. He was able to
somehow do everything everybody else does, right, Like he can
mimic their other stuff. He's not as good as them

(01:43:35):
at what they do, but he can mimic what they
do to an intege. So like it is, it is
a lot of fun. It is a fun fun sports
anime for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Right, uh Luis Sodiad.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
I mean since Taco Bell is not as banding food man,
now Loco is a bit closer. Thank you appreciate that, brother,
All right, so the stream lab, let's get through these
real quick, fantastic. Hey, Teguila spillers about anime. The Roka

(01:44:10):
knows my feelings about bat in Star Wars. I'm not
surprised because Disney animation usually does well at the box office,
and anime is animation. Not to keep it too simple
about the craziness of the rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
There you go. Yeah, absolutely Disney should explore it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
I mean, people have been clamoring for an anime Star Wars,
so it looks like you take somebody from the Visions.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Series and do a whole full length feature out of it.
It's possible.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Duck says, Hey, guys, if you were drafted in the NFL,
which active coaches, style and personality would most likely bring
out the best in you, I'll include Belichick in the mix,
just because he's only been out for a couple of years.
I wouldn't want to play for Belichick. There active coach.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Probably either Andy Reid. I actually like I mean, it's
too early to say with Schottenheimer, but so far what
has been presented, including even how he celebrated the first win.
I like the energy Sean McVay, Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell's
the answer, I take it back. I remember I remember

(01:45:15):
watching them on Hard Knocks. Let's go like Dan Campbell
seems like that, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Yeah, I have to say McVeigh because no, actually, I'll
go with Shanahan. I would go with Kyle Shanahan because
he has a way of bringing out the best in
these players, and players you don't think they're going to
be great.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Now does he always win the Super Bowl? No, clearly
hasn't won it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
But the fact that he brings out the best in
these players, I know that I'd be in good hands
with someone like him to reach the pinnacle of what
I can reach as a player.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Will we as a team win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Maybe not, but I will be the best I can
be as a player because of his coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
So I'd probably go with him.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
You know, to think about that because I don't know
if it's him that's causing this or the training staff.
But why is Sam just go always broken?

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
That's a fair point. The injuries. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Like in the way that Burrow individually is always broken.
All of San Francisco. Remember the year they went through
four five quarterbacks? Yeah, like you got you got perty
and then he gets hurt in the championship game and
they don't know what to do so that they're just
like out of quarterbacks. So that's where they put in
the emergency quarterback rule the year after because of that
shit tru u uh no, Deebo hurt too much. CMC

(01:46:28):
was already injury prone, but even more Nope, I would
not want to play for that, gentleman, And I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Through I think maybe even I think I'd have to
throw Matt Lafleur in the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
I like what he's done with Green Bay. Sure, I
think I think Matt Lafloor is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
I would say Tomlin, but Tomlin's on the dcline right now,
but so I would say lafloor Yeah, I think so.
The four is probably my final answer. Great question, man,
Let's see what else.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
We got here. Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
I feel like I'm left without protection from the authorities
because if there are lawmen who want to help the unprotected,
the administration will run interference, so I can't get the
protection needed, he says.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
I feel like that. I feel like I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Left without protection from the authorities because if there are
lawmen who want to help the unprotected, the administration will
run interference.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
So I can't get the protection needed.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
What is that in reference to I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
I think maybe he's said, I don't know if Fred
is an actual lawman himself, saying that like I can't help.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
Maybe you know, to do they do? They do they
connect with each other? Is there another one?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Uh No, I don't see another one that he said.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
So if he wants to add on to what, will
read it in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
So if you want to explain, I'm just I just confused.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Matt Thomas says, I saw a Big Bowl beautiful Journey
last night, absolutely loved it. Can't wait for the respective
Roken and Marshall reviews. Do either of you have screenings
for him tomorrow? I'm skipping mine because I'm going to
see the Paul Thomas Anderson movie tomorrow. It's the only
time it's screening in San Diego and comes out on Thursday,

(01:48:01):
so I can go see it on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
So I'm I'm gonna I do not have the screening.
I Am going to him like first thing in the
morning on Thursday, so I'll have my or No, it's
about I got a thing. I forgot the thing with
Christian until about two and then I see him at two,
so I'll have my I'll have my out of the
theater out around what it's about a ninety minute two

(01:48:24):
hour movie, so something around they're like four thirty or five.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Yeah, right on, okay. Matt Thomas alsoid also just got
out a long walk.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Seems like David Johnson has a real shot of filling
the Chadwick Boyd in the near future.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Dude is a talent. Yeah, I agree, David is. He's
very good. Yeah, very very good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
I'm glad to like Big Bull Beautiful Journey, Matt, because
it's not getting great reviews and the tracking for it
is pretty bad, like eight to ten million, So that's
that's not a good situation there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
Which one is that is not the Colin Farrell everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Yeah, I'm kind of dreading that one, to be honest
with you, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Matt also said none of I was just gonna say,
just looking at it that I would nothing about it
really got me like, ooh, I want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
So I don't know. It looks kind of sweets and
which is fine.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
I love sweet I love rom coms all that kind
of stuff, but I just there there was nothing about
it even just like, I haven't seen a trailer. I've
just seen random clips on TV about it. Yeah, just
looking at like even the poster, I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Yeah, they saw a trail before. Yesterday I went see
Downton Abbey. I Love Death. I was the best of
the movies.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
But like, I saw the trailer for it, and I've
never seen trailer either, Winston right, and I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
I was like, Oh, this is about time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
This is because essentially they're getting to go back in
time to fix their mistakes in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
So it's kind of like of Sunshine, though that's obviously
erasing it, but it's kind of a similar thing of
kind of reliving your sunshine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of like yeah, And the hint
is that they're going to end up together by going
through this path.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
But I don't, you know, I don't know, we'll see
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Matt's it's not it's not that I'm I'm making I'm
huffing because I'm looking at the injury report for Week
one for the Niners and it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen players Latin.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Week one all right, and then week two.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Was a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Like, wow,
I know the injuries happened, but like, relatively the Saints
only had seven. Yeah, Like, I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Yeah, Matt Lafleur even more so now I guess. Uh,
Matt says, okay, Roca only, Roca only.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Animals suggestion I'll give is anime suggestions. I'll give is
dragon ball Z. But for you specifically, I'll say ze
Kai because it's a more streamlined version of the main
story and trims out some of the fat. I know
Winston may consider that sacrilege, but hey, that's how it is.
I've never heard of I've never heard of ze Kai.
So I don't know what to mak.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
I missed part of that. I apologize, you know, I'm
not I'm not. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
M oh uh what are you saying? Oh, so here's
Freddy says, that was the second one. I was talking
about feeling unprotected against the gestapo. Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
Oh, I see, yeah, no, I I understand I mean
that that is that was a big Oh dragon ball
z kai Oh, Dragon.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Ball z Kai. Oh I'm sorry. I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
No, no, no, That's why I was like, ze Kai, what
is Kai? Now? I understand, Okay, I'll come back to that.
But answering Fred, I hear what you're saying. That's I am.
They're There are different levels to it, for sure, and
they hit differently, But that is a similar fear that
many black people, myself included. For the longest time, I've
always thought about the cops. I've never I've never trusted them.

(01:51:56):
I've seen enough bad stuff happen. I have been one
of my first interactions where I'm seventeen and the only
thing that was wrong is my car broke down, and
it was yes, there was a curfew in the city,
but like I was literally sitting there, had already called
my mom, just waiting by my car for her to
come pick me up. And all of a sudden, boy,
what do you think you're doing out here? You had
about thirty minutes to get the fuck up out of here.

(01:52:18):
I'm throwing your grass in jail. Like that's how a
cop came up to me at seventeen. I'm I'm literally
just sitting with my hood up it. Clearly the car
is not turning on and that's how I'm getting talked to.
So I've always felt that way with cops. I'm very
hesitant to ever talk to them unless I absolutely have to,
including the multiple breakings that happened at my old place

(01:52:40):
and unfortunately having to talk to them. But then I
can see how specifically, now that you're dealing with a
government that has given full authority to do whatever to
anybody that is Latino or otherwise, I can understand the
fear of like, yeah, they might disappear me forever, and
not just like I get my ass beat and thrown
in prison, but I get sent to a country I've

(01:53:01):
never heard of, in one of the scariest prisons on
the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
That would be terrible, for sure, even.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Even if you're like a citizen here, like you were
born and raised here, because they're already doing that to people.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
That's what scares me as someone who was born here.
But the son of immigrant parents I absolutely worry about
when they just start going like, well, we're not hitting
our quotas, let's go get the sons of the immigrants now.
And it's kind of scary to think about it as
a possibility for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
So yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Oh oh, sorry, guys, I just noticed someone here being
a jerk off. Let me block them real quick. Sorry
about I hope no one was offended by what they
were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Let me he was right, I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Was listening to I know, I appreciate it, but I like,
all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh, blocking coming, and
I was like, what's going on? But dragon ball Z?

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
But dragon ba z Kai. It was a It was
a redone version of dragon ball Z that cut a
lot of the filler out and it got more to
the point. Because there's a lot of the things about
dragon ball Z. Sometimes it would drag on. Yeah, but
I just don't person like that. It is better pacing.
But I don't like Kai because I first got introduced

(01:54:16):
and fell in love with Dragon ball Z to a
composer known as Bruce Faulkner who did this for like
fundamation and did like his scoring to it. I love
it so much that I end up watching pretty much
dragon ball Z fully dubbed all the time. I watched
pretty much everything else subbed, but like the voice acting
with the like the actors for that and the music

(01:54:37):
that was there, just it's lodged in my brain, so
I just I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Yeah, of course we are affected by our entertainment that
we watch man for sure, and when it gets in there,
it gets in there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
All right. Well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
That's our show. Thank you all so much. I'm sorry
we ran a little bit over. Sorry to Winstance, We
ran a little bit over, but I appreciate him sticking around.
And thanks everybody for the chats super cheats rather thanks
everybody for the stream lubs and for the lively that
we had in here on all the topics. Really appreciate
you all.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
At Winston where can they find you? And everything going on?

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Man, you find me at the Swaggy Blurt on all
platforms here on YouTube, I believe we are let me
double check it real quick. As of last count, I
believe we were only about fifteen subs away from eating
five thousand, which would be dope. So definitely hoping young
can come over there and do that. Other than that,

(01:55:27):
I'm trying to think of what other stuff I got
going on. I got reactions coming out over there obviously
here every Tuesday, Blurds in the Hood comes back tomorrow,
so YouTube dot com slash Birds in the Hood come
join me and Jay as we're bringing the show back
and whatnot will be there Wednesdays and then Friday back
on Capes and Cows over the Christian Holof Channel. Chris
Carr has joined us now as our third since Cooy

(01:55:49):
has left the show. But yeah, it's a lot of
stuff going on, man, So appreciate each and everybody and
what mondays for me for the blurred breakdown which oh
not them trying to give me a cop Russ. What
are they trying to get me now? Because I'm played
at one of the damn any speeches. You son of
a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
A right, thank you, Winston ask for me. You can
follow me at the Roca says on all social media,
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So please share it everywhere you can so we can

(01:56:29):
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