December 14, 2024 • 26 mins
Jon Justice covers all the lastest reports and angles of the current drone sightings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you dig it? Can you dig it? Bre you digg?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's John Justice. Thank you so much for checking out
the show today. I want to get to everything that
we know so far about the mysterious drones in New
Jersey and around the country. I have been following the
story for extensively for the past few weeks. The phenomenon
(00:32):
started long before what was taking place in New Jersey,
but as of just after Thanksgiving, we've had this concentration
and focus of what's been happening in New Jersey, and
as of Friday, people have claimed to see these drones
in downtown Manhattan other parts of the country as well.
(00:52):
So because I've been consuming all of this information and
it's really broken up into a lot of different sort
of sub sects within the social sphere, I want to
bring it all together so that maybe you can make
the most informed conclusion at the moment in the absence
of what is truly going on. So let me start here.
(01:17):
Many things can be true at once, and that is
certainly the case as it relates to these mysterious drones.
We have drones flying that are of unknown origin at
the moment that appears to be sort of a baseline fact,
and I'll provide the evidence of that coming up in
(01:38):
a moment on the show. Now, the issue has been
getting really convoluted because citizens are mistakingly reporting what they
believe to be drones, but many of them are just planes,
or they are individuals flying their own drones that they
have purchased, or their reporters, as we'll talk about in
(01:59):
just a few minutes, and I'll play a news report
out of New Jersey for you that are sending up
their own drones. We know that local law enforcement has
gone up in helicopters to attempt to find the truth
about these drones out only to have the drones fly away.
We have reports from individuals who say they've flown their
(02:20):
personal store bought drones up to these and I almost
don't like to call them drones at this point in time.
I really think we should be using the current definition
of UFO unidentified flying object, but the current version of
that is unidentified aerial phenomenon of UAP. Now, if we
start calling these UAP, I think that's only going to
(02:41):
add to the mass hysteria angle of this, because this
is a portion of this story as well. So you
have people that are posting videos taking photographs of craft
that are not related to the specific drones that people
are talking about, these much larger bus car sized drones,
(03:02):
the ones that are acting the way that I just described. Now,
the social commentary surrounding this has many people dismissing the
issue outright, saying that there are no drones at all
because of all this false amateur reporting.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And again there is false amateur reporting.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Going on, but that is just making the issue more
confusing and a lot of times for those that aren't
paying close attention. And this is not a dig on
those individuals at all, but because they're not paying close
attention and the algorithms in whatever social media platform that
they are looking at, it's feeding them the same false pictures,
(03:42):
false videos, then they just assume that this is some
mass hysteria event. Now, even if it is, that's important
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'll get to that in a moment. Now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The government has of course been downplaying this. I don't
trust anything coming out of the Biden and Harrison administration
be that isn't made. The government has been downplaying this,
saying there's no credible threat. They have been chalking it
up to a majority of these being as I've mentioned,
false citizen reporting videos and photographs leaning into that particular
(04:14):
narrative while also not outrightly dismissing the fact that there
are these mysterious drones that are flying around. And of
course you have many members of Congress officials within New
York and New Jersey that are speaking out. And there's
a new report and probably one of the most interesting
reports from the standpoint that this is an incredibly reputable
(04:40):
reporter in New Jersey who was a skeptic who now
understands fully at least what the phenomenon is without knowing
what these drones are. And listen, I believe that there
is absolutely something going on relating to you these drones
beyond the hobby enthusiasts as well.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And listen.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
If it turns out that this is one big mass
hysteria event that in and of itself is worthy of
discussion because it speaks to many issues that we deal
with within the.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Social sphere, whether it's politics, pop culture.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
If this is just one big mass hysteria event that
amounts to absolutely nothing and there's no drones at all,
which I don't believe, then yeah, we need to talk
about that as well, because you have governors, congressmen, city
council people all swept up in this. Now again, I
don't believe that's the case. I believe we have a
real issue of UAPs that people cannot identify, that are
(05:44):
showing up at night that started in mass going back
to just after Thanksgiving. Although I'll give you the reports
of what's taking place on our military basis from the
Free Press investigation. Okay, so let's start here. This is
the credible recent report as of Friday out of New Jersey.
(06:07):
It's about an eleven minute report that was on Newsmax.
I'm going to give you about just over two minutes
of this reporter, who again was a skeptic until he
went out and did his own investigative work.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Hi, Elizabeth Well, I gotta be honest here. You know,
when this story first came out a few weeks ago,
as a resident of New Jersey, as a journalist, I
didn't pay it much credence. I thought it would turn
out to be a bunch of pranksters and this would
all be over by now. The experience I had last night, however,
changed the way I feel about this story completely. What
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I saw was more sophisticated than I ever imagined. Take
a look one, two, three, four, at least five lights,
six lights. I didn't believe what I was seeing? But
what was I seeing? We're here in Central Jersey. We've
been looking for the past hour. I think we've seen
about forty or fifty of these drones. In fact, there's
(07:01):
one over my shoulder right there. One after another after another.
These drones appeared in the night sky. If you look
real close, they look like fixed wing aircraft about eight
to ten feet wide, colorful white blinking lights. That is
not a plane, definitely not an airplane.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But what was it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Hours earlier, I was invited to join the Ocean County
Sheriff Department. They launched their own drones to see if
they could intercept the mysterious aircraft New Jersey residents have
been reporting in recent weeks. The department says these mystery
drones evade detection because they don't give off heat like
regular drones. Why do you think that is? We don't know.
(07:44):
It's just something that we haven't you know, it's not
something that we've had our hands on. It's not something
that we've experienced. Something they hadn't experienced until now. One
of their officers called nine to one one after seeing
fifty of them come off the ocean.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Goody made contact with that officer that they were fifty
that came off the ocean, fifty five zero. That was
my reaction. Also, there were fifty that were coming off
the ocean.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And this is a sworn officer, a sworn officer.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, we contacted stick Lease, we contacted the FBI, We
contacted the coast guard, at which point the coast guard
went out with their boat and they reported seeing thirteen
on their boat. And then the coast guard also advised
that they went over him about three hundred feet and
had a wingspan of about eight feet.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Right here, did I see the same thing that officer saw.
I'm still not sure. What I can show you is
this video. What I can tell you is I've never
seen anything like it before.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Now, again, this was a lengthy report, and he went
on to talk about more of what he experienced, but
that's the core of the story.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You have a reporter.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Who many individuals on social media and who you know, commentators,
Megan Kelly, I'll name one, had retweeted that stories saying
this is one of the most credible reporters in that
area of New Jersey who went into this being a
skeptic like so many people are, and it's understandable, but
there is something taking place, despite the fact that there
(09:13):
is a level of mass hysteria that is contributing to
the overall story, which I think is making it even
more difficult for people to get to the root of
what is happening. In the absence of the government or
anybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Explaining what's going on, I.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Simply cannot believe at this point in time that the
government is not aware of what's happening right now, which
leans into some of the theories that I'll get into
here in just a moment, because I want to present
as many angles on this as possible. So let's back
up a bit on the issue of drones. Prior to
these sightings in New Jersey, in New York and around
the country, the Free Press did an investigation, and I
(09:53):
pulled some quotes from a lengthy piece that they had
done this week. In October, the Wall Street Journal had
reported that unidentified twenty foot long drones traveling more than
one hundred miles per hour breached Langley Air Force Base
Airspace back in December of twenty twenty three. Two months prior,
in October of twenty three, five were reported spotted over
(10:17):
the Energy departments in Nevada National Security site near Las Vegas. Now,
I have no idea what we're experiencing right now with
this drone phenomenon is at all tied whatsoever to the
credible news stories that I'm sharing with you right now,
but just to again give you a complete picture of
what actually is taking place. More recently, there have been
(10:38):
similar sightings reported at US military bases across the UK.
While US Air Forces in Europe air forces in Africa
have been deploying capabilities to track the drones, they have
not yet been able to identify the source. Now, a
former Trump administration official said, and I firmly believe that
once Trump gets into office, we're going to to get
(11:00):
an abundance of clarity on this. There was reporting overnight
that Trump has already been receiving national security briefings and
he's been commenting online.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
To actually shoot these things out of the sky.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I believe at this point in time, Trump probably
knows what's going on, but is waiting until he gets
into office and I'm still shocked, and I expected heading
into this weekend we would have had an answer, and
we still don't know what's happening. But a former Trump
administration national security officials said, these drones, and again these
are the ones that have been buzzing these various military installations,
(11:34):
not related to the ones that I'm talking about right
now in New Jersey. He says, these drones are not
within the FAA airspace system, so it's not inconceivable and
maybe not even a trivial risk that one of these
drones is going to wind up hitting a helicopter or
a small passenger plane. That's nearly happened already. When the
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New Jersey State Police Colonel Patrick Callahan ordered a helicopter
to fly over one of the drones recently, it suddenly
switched off its lights. In his professional opinion, he feared
that it posed a danger to the helicopter and the
two pilots, so he pulled them down and said he
will no longer be pursuing any drones of that nature. Now,
(12:17):
all of this is causing a frenzy. As I've mentioned
in the public offices have been inundated with phone calls, emails,
and messages on social media. The concern is that if
the national military and the Coastguard don't step in, someone
will take matters into their own hands with the firearm. Now,
I want to back up, and people already have whether
or not it's credible. I've watched some videos overnight of
(12:39):
individuals that were allegedly shooting out these drones, but it's
really tough to get to well, it's really tough to
ascertain whether or not those videos are real. You know,
there are apps that you can go and take videos
and add effects to now and when you're looking at
grainy night faraway footage and you see what looks to
be laser being coming out of these, I'm sorry, I
(13:01):
have to put a huge layer of skepticism on, you know,
on that. I shared a report earlier this week, another
Newsmax report from a Newsmax reporter who said he actually
saw one in broad daylight earlier this week.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think it was on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He was driving through New Jersey and he spotted one
pulled over and it was right above his head, saying
it was as big as a two car garage, as
big as a school bus, and when he went to
take his photo.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To take a picture of it with his phone.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
By the time he did, it was too far away,
and like so many of the videos, it just looks
like a tiny dot on the screen.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Going back about I think.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was last Friday, so not this current Friday, but
last Friday, I was doing my weekly radio show. It's
on Monday through Friday six until nine am Central Time
on the iHeart Radio app. Just look for John j
Oen Justice and you'll find it. You'll find it there
and you can catch the podcast on iHeartRadio and whatever
wherever you listen to podcasts as well. But I remember
after the show, I had state reports of Walter Hudson
(14:01):
in studio, and I had not really been following closely
the drones. I had known some you know, I'd known
a little bit about it, but it wasn't anything that
was really high on my radar. And we were watching
the reporting on Fox News, and it was really interesting
because the Fox News reporting and the concerns from some
government officials were pointing to the fact that at the
time they weren't breaking any laws. And so I was
(14:24):
having a conversation with Walter, going, well, listen, if they're
not breaking any laws and not knowing the extent and
the size of these drones, then why are we having
congressional hearings over this. They weren't flying into any sort
of restricted airspace. Now we know that they have been
doing just that, they've been flying into restricted airspace. But again,
it's tough to sort of, you know, sift through what
(14:48):
is credible and what isn't. There was a story yesterday
that a drone had apparently gone down in New Jersey
during the day, and that the local authorities have been
issuing press releases saying that if you you come in
contact with one of these, you need to call the
police make sure you stay three hundred and fifty feet
(15:08):
away from it. But I saw a report this morning
from an official in New Jersey who said and clarified
that this was not one of the drones that they
have been reporting at night, one of the large ones
that the focus is on. This was an amateur drone
that had gone down, and he wanted to go and
set their record straight on that. Okay, So again we
know that there is a drone phenomenon taking place right now.
(15:32):
We know that it's been convoluted because of all the
amateur reporting of photographs and pictures that are not actually drones,
and every time somebody goes and posts one that's an airplane,
I think the issue diminishes a little bit for a
lot of individuals because they just go an outright say, well,
there's no problem at all, this is a massess area event,
(15:53):
instead of saying that picture that video just happens to
be an airplane or an amateur drone and is not
one of the ones that they are referring to. And
I'll mention again if this turns out to be some
sort of mass hysteria event that in and of itself
needs to be talked about because of how big the
story has gotten. Now I've gone and compiled a handful
(16:16):
of the most talked about theories at the moment of
what these drones are. Now, I don't put any credibility
and I won't speak to their validity in any way,
shape or form, but for the sake of covering all
the angles, I wanted to go ahead and talk a
bit about what the rumors say from those online that
(16:38):
are posting on Reddit, forums and four chan and otherwise.
And again, I don't put a lot of credit in this,
but many of these theories are being floated, and a
lot of people are buying into them, and they're interesting
to say the least. So we have one of the
bigger ones that leans into the conspiracy that's been around
(16:59):
for decades.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This is all Project Bluebeam.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
This is the government's attempt to go and fake a
large scale event potentially relating to an extraterrestrial or extraterrestrial
exposure to sort of bring about the global you know,
the One Worldite, uniting the world under one you know,
(17:24):
totalitarian authoritative regime by convincing everybody that we all need
to band together as a planet to fight this mystery
threat when it's all faked to bring this about. Now,
I don't put a lot of stock in that, but
there have been individuals whom I respect, like Charlie Kirk,
that have been stating that they believed or at least
they're leaning.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Into this being Project Bluebeam.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This one I find really interesting because it doesn't get
too far into conspiracy and it makes sense even though
I can't imagine that anybody would be going to this
extent of a psyop just to get it a bill
passed in Congress, Be that as it may, the FAA
Reauthorization Act of twenty eighteen expires on December twentieth. The
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federal government, according to this post, this anonymous post is
literally using a terrorism psyop against us to manipulate Congress
into passing the new HR eighty six ten, the Counter
Uas Authority Security Safety Reauthorization Act of twenty twenty four
which will include appropriations and advance to government powers to
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control you. And they're even going so far as to
use it to push for acts of war against other countries.
The reason the Daily Life the post goes on to
say is so messed up right now is directly related
to the Smith Month Act being repealed in twenty thirteen,
which prohibited the government from broadcasting propaganda. So that's the
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one that I've probably seen passed around the most of
the conspiracy theories. This one has been gaining quite a
bit of attention as well. It comes from an account
called kid dash and dash pay under the conspiracy Reddit page,
and it goes like this radar guy here, I know
who is operating these drones. And the reason why these
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gained so much attention is because in the absence of
knowing what's going on during a real phenomenon, people want
the truth and they're so skeptical of any sort of
news outlet, justifiably so that when you have somebody that
puts together a conspiracy theory that could potentially make.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Sense, a lot of people going lean into it and
buy it again. I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I put no credibility on any of these I just
wanted to share them with you. Twenty five year radar
operator from a major agency here, I just thought i'd
let you know what has been.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Going on the past few weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
The drones are part of a military drill being conducted
by Space Force. Everything is on a need to know basis,
which is why there's so much confusion. What gets me
concerned and why I had to make this post is
that something big is about to go down. I happen
to know that there are additional full lockout drills that
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are scheduled to take place between now and Christmas Eve.
These operations involve the full takeover of all radio, radar
and aircraft communications to the military for several hours at
a time. Now, what's interesting about this is that once
this story began to gain momentum within the social sphere,
there were new stories coming out, or I should say,
(20:31):
new online posts of individuals who said that their radios
were acting wonky in the area where these drones were
being reported. And again, I don't know how much stock
I put into any of that, but that's what has been.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Occurring, and I think a lot of this. There are
people that are looking.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
To get clicks on TikTok, and if you want to
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That's Jon at the John Justice. In conjunction with the
full turnover of radio and radar and aircraft communications to
the military for several hours at a time. There are
also and have been scheduled launches off the books, and
(21:08):
those have been occurring since October. They're setting up some
kind of big show for the public very soon. CNN
was even at our facility shooting pre roll footage for
a future story. I don't know exactly what is going on,
but all I know is this get ready, peace and
safety to you and all your families. This was the
(21:29):
report that made so many individuals think that this is
all Project Bluebeam. All right, One more here. This guy
wants to do a Q and A. He says, I
have intimate knowledge of what is currently going on in
the US about UFOs minus the last two years, so
the UFOs are primarily unman drones. The UFOs are built
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to spec each time they're deployed. They're created by a
mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean. The construction
facility destroys any that comes close to it and will
disappear for days when approached aggressively. US believes the facility
has been active on Earth for at least one hundred
years or longer. Fire away on your questions. I'll answer
(22:13):
what I can. You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I again, I don't put me stock in any stock
into this, but just for the sake of it being interesting,
I thought i'd share. So somebody asked, do UAPs return
back to the manufacturing unit. Yes, some come in and
leave the planet, but very rarely. Usually the same number
that comes in goes out unless special circumstances arrive. It
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feels more like a carrier, but with construction capabilities. What
are the purposes of the UAPs surveillance of humans? The
US believes that they're not here to harm us. They
only seem interested in us once they realize we are
destroying things around us, including each other. This sounds like
it was ripped just straight up from James Cameron's abyss,
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which is why I don't put a lot of talk
in it, but I wanted to share. One of the
officials in charge said something that struck me. They act
like keepers of a zoo, uninterested in daily life of
wildlife until there is a problem. I can approach that
facility without being attacked, the person writes, Lol, the last
unit we saw approach the facility didn't even have time
(23:23):
to communicate. They were being attacked before it was over.
So again, that's probably one of the more or most
ridiculous claims that I seen out there. I don't put
any credibility on any of these, but in the nature
of sort of getting to all the information regarding these
drones and these UAPs, I wanted to provide at least
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some of the conspiracies of what people are saying.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
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Speaker 2 (23:51):
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's Jon.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I've been posting about this and reposting, and I've been
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Not the entirety.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I've been talking about it on my weekly radio
show as well here in Minneapolis. So and I did,
actually I did about an hour on this on Friday show,
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Can you dig it? Can you dig it? Bre you digg?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's John Justice. Thank you so much for checking out
the show today. I want to get to everything that
we know so far about the mysterious drones in New
Jersey and around the country. I have been following the
story for extensively for the past few weeks. The phenomenon
(00:32):
started long before what was taking place in New Jersey,
but as of just after Thanksgiving, we've had this concentration
and focus of what's been happening in New Jersey, and
as of Friday, people have claimed to see these drones
in downtown Manhattan other parts of the country as well.
(00:52):
So because I've been consuming all of this information and
it's really broken up into a lot of different sort
of sub sects within the social sphere, I want to
bring it all together so that maybe you can make
the most informed conclusion at the moment in the absence
of what is truly going on. So let me start here.
(01:17):
Many things can be true at once, and that is
certainly the case as it relates to these mysterious drones.
We have drones flying that are of unknown origin at
the moment that appears to be sort of a baseline fact,
and I'll provide the evidence of that coming up in
(01:38):
a moment on the show. Now, the issue has been
getting really convoluted because citizens are mistakingly reporting what they
believe to be drones, but many of them are just planes,
or they are individuals flying their own drones that they
have purchased, or their reporters, as we'll talk about in
(01:59):
just a few minutes, and I'll play a news report
out of New Jersey for you that are sending up
their own drones. We know that local law enforcement has
gone up in helicopters to attempt to find the truth
about these drones out only to have the drones fly away.
We have reports from individuals who say they've flown their
(02:20):
personal store bought drones up to these and I almost
don't like to call them drones at this point in time.
I really think we should be using the current definition
of UFO unidentified flying object, but the current version of
that is unidentified aerial phenomenon of UAP. Now, if we
start calling these UAP, I think that's only going to
(02:41):
add to the mass hysteria angle of this, because this
is a portion of this story as well. So you
have people that are posting videos taking photographs of craft
that are not related to the specific drones that people
are talking about, these much larger bus car sized drones,
(03:02):
the ones that are acting the way that I just described. Now,
the social commentary surrounding this has many people dismissing the
issue outright, saying that there are no drones at all
because of all this false amateur reporting.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And again there is false amateur reporting.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Going on, but that is just making the issue more
confusing and a lot of times for those that aren't
paying close attention. And this is not a dig on
those individuals at all, but because they're not paying close
attention and the algorithms in whatever social media platform that
they are looking at, it's feeding them the same false pictures,
(03:42):
false videos, then they just assume that this is some
mass hysteria event. Now, even if it is, that's important
as well.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'll get to that in a moment. Now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The government has of course been downplaying this. I don't
trust anything coming out of the Biden and Harrison administration
be that isn't made. The government has been downplaying this,
saying there's no credible threat. They have been chalking it
up to a majority of these being as I've mentioned,
false citizen reporting videos and photographs leaning into that particular
(04:14):
narrative while also not outrightly dismissing the fact that there
are these mysterious drones that are flying around. And of
course you have many members of Congress officials within New
York and New Jersey that are speaking out. And there's
a new report and probably one of the most interesting
reports from the standpoint that this is an incredibly reputable
(04:40):
reporter in New Jersey who was a skeptic who now
understands fully at least what the phenomenon is without knowing
what these drones are. And listen, I believe that there
is absolutely something going on relating to you these drones
beyond the hobby enthusiasts as well.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And listen.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
If it turns out that this is one big mass
hysteria event that in and of itself is worthy of
discussion because it speaks to many issues that we deal
with within the.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Social sphere, whether it's politics, pop culture.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
If this is just one big mass hysteria event that
amounts to absolutely nothing and there's no drones at all,
which I don't believe, then yeah, we need to talk
about that as well, because you have governors, congressmen, city
council people all swept up in this. Now again, I
don't believe that's the case. I believe we have a
real issue of UAPs that people cannot identify, that are
(05:44):
showing up at night that started in mass going back
to just after Thanksgiving. Although I'll give you the reports
of what's taking place on our military basis from the
Free Press investigation. Okay, so let's start here. This is
the credible recent report as of Friday out of New Jersey.
(06:07):
It's about an eleven minute report that was on Newsmax.
I'm going to give you about just over two minutes
of this reporter, who again was a skeptic until he
went out and did his own investigative work.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Hi, Elizabeth Well, I gotta be honest here. You know,
when this story first came out a few weeks ago,
as a resident of New Jersey, as a journalist, I
didn't pay it much credence. I thought it would turn
out to be a bunch of pranksters and this would
all be over by now. The experience I had last night, however,
changed the way I feel about this story completely. What
(06:40):
I saw was more sophisticated than I ever imagined. Take
a look one, two, three, four, at least five lights,
six lights. I didn't believe what I was seeing? But
what was I seeing? We're here in Central Jersey. We've
been looking for the past hour. I think we've seen
about forty or fifty of these drones. In fact, there's
(07:01):
one over my shoulder right there. One after another after another.
These drones appeared in the night sky. If you look
real close, they look like fixed wing aircraft about eight
to ten feet wide, colorful white blinking lights. That is
not a plane, definitely not an airplane.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But what was it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Hours earlier, I was invited to join the Ocean County
Sheriff Department. They launched their own drones to see if
they could intercept the mysterious aircraft New Jersey residents have
been reporting in recent weeks. The department says these mystery
drones evade detection because they don't give off heat like
regular drones. Why do you think that is? We don't know.
(07:44):
It's just something that we haven't you know, it's not
something that we've had our hands on. It's not something
that we've experienced. Something they hadn't experienced until now. One
of their officers called nine to one one after seeing
fifty of them come off the ocean.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Goody made contact with that officer that they were fifty
that came off the ocean, fifty five zero. That was
my reaction. Also, there were fifty that were coming off
the ocean.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And this is a sworn officer, a sworn officer.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, we contacted stick Lease, we contacted the FBI, We
contacted the coast guard, at which point the coast guard
went out with their boat and they reported seeing thirteen
on their boat. And then the coast guard also advised
that they went over him about three hundred feet and
had a wingspan of about eight feet.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Right here, did I see the same thing that officer saw.
I'm still not sure. What I can show you is
this video. What I can tell you is I've never
seen anything like it before.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Now, again, this was a lengthy report, and he went
on to talk about more of what he experienced, but
that's the core of the story.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You have a reporter.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Who many individuals on social media and who you know, commentators,
Megan Kelly, I'll name one, had retweeted that stories saying
this is one of the most credible reporters in that
area of New Jersey who went into this being a
skeptic like so many people are, and it's understandable, but
there is something taking place, despite the fact that there
(09:13):
is a level of mass hysteria that is contributing to
the overall story, which I think is making it even
more difficult for people to get to the root of
what is happening. In the absence of the government or
anybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Explaining what's going on, I.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Simply cannot believe at this point in time that the
government is not aware of what's happening right now, which
leans into some of the theories that I'll get into
here in just a moment, because I want to present
as many angles on this as possible. So let's back
up a bit on the issue of drones. Prior to
these sightings in New Jersey, in New York and around
the country, the Free Press did an investigation, and I
(09:53):
pulled some quotes from a lengthy piece that they had
done this week. In October, the Wall Street Journal had
reported that unidentified twenty foot long drones traveling more than
one hundred miles per hour breached Langley Air Force Base
Airspace back in December of twenty twenty three. Two months prior,
in October of twenty three, five were reported spotted over
(10:17):
the Energy departments in Nevada National Security site near Las Vegas. Now,
I have no idea what we're experiencing right now with
this drone phenomenon is at all tied whatsoever to the
credible news stories that I'm sharing with you right now,
but just to again give you a complete picture of
what actually is taking place. More recently, there have been
(10:38):
similar sightings reported at US military bases across the UK.
While US Air Forces in Europe air forces in Africa
have been deploying capabilities to track the drones, they have
not yet been able to identify the source. Now, a
former Trump administration official said, and I firmly believe that
once Trump gets into office, we're going to to get
(11:00):
an abundance of clarity on this. There was reporting overnight
that Trump has already been receiving national security briefings and
he's been commenting online.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
To actually shoot these things out of the sky.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I believe at this point in time, Trump probably
knows what's going on, but is waiting until he gets
into office and I'm still shocked, and I expected heading
into this weekend we would have had an answer, and
we still don't know what's happening. But a former Trump
administration national security officials said, these drones, and again these
are the ones that have been buzzing these various military installations,
(11:34):
not related to the ones that I'm talking about right
now in New Jersey. He says, these drones are not
within the FAA airspace system, so it's not inconceivable and
maybe not even a trivial risk that one of these
drones is going to wind up hitting a helicopter or
a small passenger plane. That's nearly happened already. When the
(11:55):
New Jersey State Police Colonel Patrick Callahan ordered a helicopter
to fly over one of the drones recently, it suddenly
switched off its lights. In his professional opinion, he feared
that it posed a danger to the helicopter and the
two pilots, so he pulled them down and said he
will no longer be pursuing any drones of that nature. Now,
(12:17):
all of this is causing a frenzy. As I've mentioned
in the public offices have been inundated with phone calls, emails,
and messages on social media. The concern is that if
the national military and the Coastguard don't step in, someone
will take matters into their own hands with the firearm. Now,
I want to back up, and people already have whether
or not it's credible. I've watched some videos overnight of
(12:39):
individuals that were allegedly shooting out these drones, but it's
really tough to get to well, it's really tough to
ascertain whether or not those videos are real. You know,
there are apps that you can go and take videos
and add effects to now and when you're looking at
grainy night faraway footage and you see what looks to
be laser being coming out of these, I'm sorry, I
(13:01):
have to put a huge layer of skepticism on, you know,
on that. I shared a report earlier this week, another
Newsmax report from a Newsmax reporter who said he actually
saw one in broad daylight earlier this week.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think it was on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He was driving through New Jersey and he spotted one
pulled over and it was right above his head, saying
it was as big as a two car garage, as
big as a school bus, and when he went to
take his photo.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To take a picture of it with his phone.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
By the time he did, it was too far away,
and like so many of the videos, it just looks
like a tiny dot on the screen.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Going back about I think.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was last Friday, so not this current Friday, but
last Friday, I was doing my weekly radio show. It's
on Monday through Friday six until nine am Central Time
on the iHeart Radio app. Just look for John j
Oen Justice and you'll find it. You'll find it there
and you can catch the podcast on iHeartRadio and whatever
wherever you listen to podcasts as well. But I remember
after the show, I had state reports of Walter Hudson
(14:01):
in studio, and I had not really been following closely
the drones. I had known some you know, I'd known
a little bit about it, but it wasn't anything that
was really high on my radar. And we were watching
the reporting on Fox News, and it was really interesting
because the Fox News reporting and the concerns from some
government officials were pointing to the fact that at the
time they weren't breaking any laws. And so I was
(14:24):
having a conversation with Walter, going, well, listen, if they're
not breaking any laws and not knowing the extent and
the size of these drones, then why are we having
congressional hearings over this. They weren't flying into any sort
of restricted airspace. Now we know that they have been
doing just that, they've been flying into restricted airspace. But again,
it's tough to sort of, you know, sift through what
(14:48):
is credible and what isn't. There was a story yesterday
that a drone had apparently gone down in New Jersey
during the day, and that the local authorities have been
issuing press releases saying that if you you come in
contact with one of these, you need to call the
police make sure you stay three hundred and fifty feet
(15:08):
away from it. But I saw a report this morning
from an official in New Jersey who said and clarified
that this was not one of the drones that they
have been reporting at night, one of the large ones
that the focus is on. This was an amateur drone
that had gone down, and he wanted to go and
set their record straight on that. Okay, So again we
know that there is a drone phenomenon taking place right now.
(15:32):
We know that it's been convoluted because of all the
amateur reporting of photographs and pictures that are not actually drones,
and every time somebody goes and posts one that's an airplane,
I think the issue diminishes a little bit for a
lot of individuals because they just go an outright say, well,
there's no problem at all, this is a massess area event,
(15:53):
instead of saying that picture that video just happens to
be an airplane or an amateur drone and is not
one of the ones that they are referring to. And
I'll mention again if this turns out to be some
sort of mass hysteria event that in and of itself
needs to be talked about because of how big the
story has gotten. Now I've gone and compiled a handful
(16:16):
of the most talked about theories at the moment of
what these drones are. Now, I don't put any credibility
and I won't speak to their validity in any way,
shape or form, but for the sake of covering all
the angles, I wanted to go ahead and talk a
bit about what the rumors say from those online that
(16:38):
are posting on Reddit, forums and four chan and otherwise.
And again, I don't put a lot of credit in this,
but many of these theories are being floated, and a
lot of people are buying into them, and they're interesting
to say the least. So we have one of the
bigger ones that leans into the conspiracy that's been around
(16:59):
for decades.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
This is all Project Bluebeam.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
This is the government's attempt to go and fake a
large scale event potentially relating to an extraterrestrial or extraterrestrial
exposure to sort of bring about the global you know,
the One Worldite, uniting the world under one you know,
(17:24):
totalitarian authoritative regime by convincing everybody that we all need
to band together as a planet to fight this mystery
threat when it's all faked to bring this about. Now,
I don't put a lot of stock in that, but
there have been individuals whom I respect, like Charlie Kirk,
that have been stating that they believed or at least
they're leaning.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Into this being Project Bluebeam.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This one I find really interesting because it doesn't get
too far into conspiracy and it makes sense even though
I can't imagine that anybody would be going to this
extent of a psyop just to get it a bill
passed in Congress, Be that as it may, the FAA
Reauthorization Act of twenty eighteen expires on December twentieth. The
(18:09):
federal government, according to this post, this anonymous post is
literally using a terrorism psyop against us to manipulate Congress
into passing the new HR eighty six ten, the Counter
Uas Authority Security Safety Reauthorization Act of twenty twenty four
which will include appropriations and advance to government powers to
(18:32):
control you. And they're even going so far as to
use it to push for acts of war against other countries.
The reason the Daily Life the post goes on to
say is so messed up right now is directly related
to the Smith Month Act being repealed in twenty thirteen,
which prohibited the government from broadcasting propaganda. So that's the
(18:54):
one that I've probably seen passed around the most of
the conspiracy theories. This one has been gaining quite a
bit of attention as well. It comes from an account
called kid dash and dash pay under the conspiracy Reddit page,
and it goes like this radar guy here, I know
who is operating these drones. And the reason why these
(19:17):
gained so much attention is because in the absence of
knowing what's going on during a real phenomenon, people want
the truth and they're so skeptical of any sort of
news outlet, justifiably so that when you have somebody that
puts together a conspiracy theory that could potentially make.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Sense, a lot of people going lean into it and
buy it again. I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I put no credibility on any of these I just
wanted to share them with you. Twenty five year radar
operator from a major agency here, I just thought i'd
let you know what has been.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Going on the past few weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
The drones are part of a military drill being conducted
by Space Force. Everything is on a need to know basis,
which is why there's so much confusion. What gets me
concerned and why I had to make this post is
that something big is about to go down. I happen
to know that there are additional full lockout drills that
(20:09):
are scheduled to take place between now and Christmas Eve.
These operations involve the full takeover of all radio, radar
and aircraft communications to the military for several hours at
a time. Now, what's interesting about this is that once
this story began to gain momentum within the social sphere,
there were new stories coming out, or I should say,
(20:31):
new online posts of individuals who said that their radios
were acting wonky in the area where these drones were
being reported. And again, I don't know how much stock
I put into any of that, but that's what has been.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Occurring, and I think a lot of this. There are
people that are looking.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
To get clicks on TikTok, and if you want to
follow me on TikTok, you can at the John Justice.
That's Jon at the John Justice. In conjunction with the
full turnover of radio and radar and aircraft communications to
the military for several hours at a time. There are
also and have been scheduled launches off the books, and
(21:08):
those have been occurring since October. They're setting up some
kind of big show for the public very soon. CNN
was even at our facility shooting pre roll footage for
a future story. I don't know exactly what is going on,
but all I know is this get ready, peace and
safety to you and all your families. This was the
(21:29):
report that made so many individuals think that this is
all Project Bluebeam. All right, One more here. This guy
wants to do a Q and A. He says, I
have intimate knowledge of what is currently going on in
the US about UFOs minus the last two years, so
the UFOs are primarily unman drones. The UFOs are built
(21:51):
to spec each time they're deployed. They're created by a
mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean. The construction
facility destroys any that comes close to it and will
disappear for days when approached aggressively. US believes the facility
has been active on Earth for at least one hundred
years or longer. Fire away on your questions. I'll answer
(22:13):
what I can. You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I again, I don't put me stock in any stock
into this, but just for the sake of it being interesting,
I thought i'd share. So somebody asked, do UAPs return
back to the manufacturing unit. Yes, some come in and
leave the planet, but very rarely. Usually the same number
that comes in goes out unless special circumstances arrive. It
(22:37):
feels more like a carrier, but with construction capabilities. What
are the purposes of the UAPs surveillance of humans? The
US believes that they're not here to harm us. They
only seem interested in us once they realize we are
destroying things around us, including each other. This sounds like
it was ripped just straight up from James Cameron's abyss,
(23:01):
which is why I don't put a lot of talk
in it, but I wanted to share. One of the
officials in charge said something that struck me. They act
like keepers of a zoo, uninterested in daily life of
wildlife until there is a problem. I can approach that
facility without being attacked, the person writes, Lol, the last
unit we saw approach the facility didn't even have time
(23:23):
to communicate. They were being attacked before it was over.
So again, that's probably one of the more or most
ridiculous claims that I seen out there. I don't put
any credibility on any of these, but in the nature
of sort of getting to all the information regarding these
drones and these UAPs, I wanted to provide at least
(23:44):
some of the conspiracies of what people are saying.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'd love to know what you think at this point
in time. You can email me.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Talkshow Nerd talkshow nerd at gmail dot com, or go
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's Jon.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I've been posting about this and reposting, and I've been
talking about it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Not the entirety.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I've been talking about it on my weekly radio
show as well here in Minneapolis. So and I did,
actually I did about an hour on this on Friday show,
which you can go and find on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So what do you think?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
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