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But we'll see how the flow ofthe show is going, but it's piled
in. Judge Allen, I'm sorry, I wanted you to go ahead and
kind of did you have any thingto follow up on with? No?
No, I mean I completely agreewith Judge Brown. The Constitution as written
is neutral and as judges, aslawyers, you know, we have a

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responsibility to uphold the Constitution. TheConstitution is neutral, but unfortunately we have
too many people in the legal systems, including the judiciary, who are not
neutral the right correct, and itreally breaks my heart to see how much

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the judiciary in particular has become sopoliticized in this country and in the state
of Pennsylvania where I live. Sooh wow, yeah, yeah, sure
enough. Well, having said that, we're going to go ahead and thank
you for that, Judge Allen.This is This is the congressional hearings earlier

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this week and the legal expert RobertCostello on lawfair being waged against President Trumps
and at least the phonic opens thisup the Novige from New York. First
of all, thank you so muchfor stating the obvious that political law fair

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is in fact election interference. That'swhat we're seeing with the sham Alvin Bragg
trial. Thank you also to thenovice freshman member for New York highlighting that
withholding military aid to an ally forpolitical purpose, just like Joe Biden is
doing to Israel. Always grateful foryou steping in it, mister Costello.
In your opening statement, you saidthat in the over fifty years serving as

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a lawyer, you quote have neverseen the type of politically motivated cases that
have been often this presidential election season. These political cases are being used as
a weapon of war to damage defeatsor of p political adversaries and their allies.
Instead of political warfare, it islawfare, a cancer upon our collective
judicial system. I want to beginwith Alvin Bragg's weaponar shamphile in New York.

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Isn't it true that an Alvin Bragg'scampaign for Manhattan Da Bragg specifically ran
on going after President Donald Trump?That is true. Isn't it true that
Bragg's predecessor Si Vance declined to properlyPresident Trump? That is true. And
the SEC also did not prop toyou President Trump. That is true.
And the DOJ did not prop toyou President Trump. In this case,

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the DJ referring to the US attorneysfor the Southern District. Absolutely true.
And one of the reasons the SouthernDistrict of New York turned down this case
was because the supposed star witness,according to Alvin Bragg, Michael Cohen,
was totally quote unworthy of beliefs.Isn't that true? Without a doubt?
This is the same Michael Cohen whopled to seven counts in an indictment that

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had absolutely nothing to with President Trumpand actually pre dated the first time he
met President Trump. Correctsolutely truth,And in fact, this is the same
Michael Cohen who perjured himself to Congress. Isn't that true? Yes? In
fact, when called as a witnessin this sham trial, Cohen was asked
directly if he was honest during histettony to Congress. He said no,

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admitting perjury. But it's not justBragg's case that is a total sham and
illegal political lawfare going after Joe Biden'stop political opponent, Donald Trump. This
rock goes deep, all the wayup to the top in the Oval office,
because when Congress referred this admission ofCohen's perjury to Joe Biden's doj isn't
it true that the dj has refusedto prosecute. That is true. Isn't

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it correct that Michael Colangelo, whowas the third highest ranking official in Biden's
DOJ, was transferred to Bragg's officeto run this weaponized prosecution of President Trump?
Isn't that true? Not only true, but it's unheard of, unheard
of, It's a disgrace. Doyou agree that this weaponization of lawfair goes
straight to top with the purpose ofhelping Joe Biden's failing presidential campaign. The

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circumstantial evidence definitely supports that, andthe unconstitutional gag order on President Trump from
New York Judge Merchant is unprecedented.Lawfair well as I know, absolutely,
And let's go to the daughter ofthe judge. Isn't it true that she
is raising millions of dollars off ofthis sham case? I have to say
I've read that in the media.I don't know it with my own knowledge.

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It is true. One additional questionI want to talk about the rigged
and unprecedented jury selection process. Isn'tit true that Brag's team asked the jurors
if they followed Trump on social media? Yes? And isn't it true that
they did not ask any of thepotential jurors if they followed Biden on social

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media or Michael Cohen or Michael Cohen. And isn't it true that eighty seven
percent of the jurors said they votedfor Joe Biden? That's true. Is
this unprecedented and lawfair jury shopping withouta doubt, political lawfare for the purpose
of election interference to go after DonaldTrump? You agree? Truly? This

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is one of the reasons that Trumppulled continues to skyrockets, and it's why
President Trump will win in twenty twentyfour to end the illegal and warp weaponization
of the justice system, because ifthey can allegily go after Trump, they
can go after anyone. Yeah,here, Ben, first of what you
just heard, because just Brown,why why are we havy? Why is

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this trial going on? Well,go ahead, It's going on for the
reasons that she's stated. It's electioninterference like I've never seen anything before.
It's going on because they are attemptingto prosecute and bring down President Trump.

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And I mean it could it completelydefies logic. I've watched this thing from
the beginning, first and first foremost, where I come from the DA doesn't
get the change to choose the judgewho's going to this case. That that

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just blew me away right there.The judge here. You have a judge
with the major made several major conflictsof interests, and yet he is able
to preside. I've never witnessed anythinglike this when it comes to jury's selections.
I mean, and and the thecase should have never started. It

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should the charges should have never beenbrought. I find myself asking what do
they have on on brag that hewould stick his neck out like this.
But the fact is that the trialstarted. Clearly a mis trial should have

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been granted, and clearly there shouldbe a judge motion for judgment of acquittal
and the trial should end. Butit probably won't happen. And it's it's
just the traves dude to watch that. It's very painful to watch this because

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I know what goes. I don'tpossess to have the extensive background that Judge
Brown has in the area of criminallaw that I have served as a judge
in criminal court, and I knowthat doesn't happen. Yeah, I mean,

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I asked you this before about thisjudge up there. It's just same
thing with the other judge. Youknow whether Tisa James and all of that.
We know, we know this isthis is lawfare. You give us,
give us, give us your thoughtson this, judge. I mean,

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I'm just I'm I'm dumbfounded by allof this, because bro, oh
okay, all right. First,her testimony, like Stormy day I venues
on several occasions, it was whenthe defendant and a black mail case,

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chose to take the stand in herdefense to defend the extortion that she had
carried out against me. I findastonishing that under New York law. I
told you that my own problem.But let's see if I can get this

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square away. Let me start again. Stormy Daniels is giving the same testimony
that I have heard before, comingfrom a case who has chosen to take
the stand and try to explain herextortion. Essentially, under New York law,

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Donald Trump is the victim of ablack male attempt is making somebody paid
funny to keep from being embarrassed.The thing that they are prosecuting him against
is something is her report that needsto be made, so somebody is paying

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somebody not to make the report.It's usually used in the exact reverts.
Now that not a good thing atall. Judge, you broke up.

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Okay, I see this. Neitherbrag nor Letitia James is going to be
able to tell you much about theUS Constitution because I'm willing to be.
Over the last forty some years thatI've been keeping up with it, they

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do periodic surveys conducted by the AmericanBarso Carstion Prial Lawyers Association, and they
found that on average, fewer thantwenty five lawyers and sitting judges have at
Constitution. Everybody had to study itin law school. But depend upon what

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you were interested in, that mayor may not have had anything to do
with individual rights. I'm not seeingthe constitutional fight for the last thirty some
years of judicial conferences. Well notthirty because this didn't happen. But over
the last twenty twenty five when westarted getting social media developed, it was

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judges do not remain on a caseif your spouse, significant other, or
your children has been posting about acase that is primarily that is an upfront
an ethnic because mirror's this thing calleda white happy life or happy spouse.

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And if your wife inside of thecase that has the appears your child is
pushing for one side of the casethat has the appearance of impropriety. And
this knucklehead idiot is sitting on thebench when his wife has been putting stuff

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on pechs of Donald Trump peeping outbetween prison bars, and the daughter is
managing millions of dollars in funds todefeat Trump. It is inappropriate. The
next thing about this jury selection,I find it absolutely astonished. This is

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not appropriate, and these charges nevershould have been brought and prosecuting the victim,
and they're also prosecuting his corporation becausewhat he did not do file a
full fledged report of what this wasabout. Now, if they've done that,

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then we've defeated the purpose of thedog and the pay. And if
they given the fun to starvem.Dan you knows, through a number of
means threatened to embarrass UH, theprimary stockholder in this country company with political

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embarrassment. If she was not ayblackmail, that would not have done what
it was sposed to have done.So you want to sit there and prosecute
a corporate entity and an individual foressentially following the spirit of the law.
Now there was a settlement in thisthing, but that means it's but it

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can't be if you follow that.This is absolutely ridiculous and that clown is
probably angling is you as when thatjack back ass excuse me, judge up
in the White House continues his perversionand sitting behind the bench and protected from

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prosecution by the Justice Department to herfinding that what he's sautible of because he's
holding you're supposed to have sharp middlefaculties and they're saying this clown is too
below par to prosecute. That isthe most ridiculous thing going. And it

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has absolutely nothing to do with theprime. It's got to do his crime
because the crime was committed some yearsago and he shouldn't have been prosecuted,
just like that person was to killedMedgar Edwards down in Mississippi when he was

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in his eighties. I think Judgeout wanted to jumping. That's a trategy.
Yeah, I guess right, Judge, Judge Brown. I've never heard
of this, and you can tellme if I'm wrong, but I've never
heard. I understand that sometimes aperson can be mentally incompetent when it comes

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to standing trial, but not whatdoes that have to do with charging a
person? I mean, it seemsto me, but that's not that's not
the reason to not charge a personwith a crime. Am I correcting?
That certainly isn't. You are absolutelycorrect, So absolut we have I mean,

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we just we we clearly have uha dual system. And it's it's
it's not about what you've done,it's about what you do, yes,
said Judge Brown. Disperate treatment.Disperate treatment in a federal case. We

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occasionally use two men, one evenbefore it went to try treatment and other
there were to show that other similarlysituated were not prosecuted for doing essentially the
same thing. Mm hmm wow.So so so as we as we look

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speaking loudly because I understand the transmissionto bad. Sorry yeah, and that's
fine, but it is. Itis bad, though, judge. But
we'll we'll, we'll, we'll tryto catch as much as we can.
Though. One other point I'd liketo make about the New York and Judge
Brown us, I mean, theystill they're they're accusing him of following a

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falsifying records. But there have tobe yah, an underlying crime which hasn't
been stated yet, hasn't Well that'smy point. I haven't heard it stated,
and so I mean, the onlything that is the one thing they

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they've tried to say, talk aboutit about, you know, in order
to impact the election. But thatwould be a federal crime they turned down
as a state crime, which hehas no jurisdiction over. Rag has no
no, no jurisdiction over federal crimes. So the whole thing is just it's

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just ridiculous. I mean, it'sit's it's painful to watch. I've never
seen anything like this in all myyears of practicing law. Is is sitting
on the bench. I am youhave, I have one time, I
have move on to the next topic. May be where I sit. I

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studied international criminal law, and Isaw this very same thing in prosecutions held
under Benizo Mussolini and Adolf Hitler.Right, yes, in facious Italy,

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in Nazi Germany. I'm also seenprosecute in uh Franco's fascist stain. It's
not uncommon others not American. Theother thing too, I'd like to comment
on another thing is already in thepipeline for appeal fund. Other clowns in

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this clown plitician James did with thismatter camp go after him, which shows
a lack of objectivity, because,by the way, one of the things
was just gonna I think undermine FannyWillis down in Georgia. Is this lack
of objectivity because your honor, I'msure you bet this happened, your honor,

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in the interest of justice under thecircumstances attendant upon this case, the
evidence that's been at the state movesto dismiss this matter as the matter of
justice. In the interest of justice. See, the prosecution is also supposed
to be objective when they're ares otherresults than the vigorous prosecution of a defendant.

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Now, let's take one thing thatI found absolutely astonishing about what's happened
in this shivil thing where President Trumpwas fining such a heavy amount. Let's
take the ardo this clown pencil Nickjudge that they had handling the case went

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along with the tissue James's assertion thatthis propertyteen million dollars. Well, the
average undeveloped a lot surrounding the placeis twenty three million dollars, and the
state of Florida undervalues Donald Trump's milargalproperty for tax purposes at eighty four million.

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Where the devil did these clowns getthirteen million, except from the statements
of the prosecutor, right that milliondollars. This is way, this is
quit. And it's my understanding thatthey that they didn't even allow the testimony

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of an appraise there. Oh wow, I mean, is that is that
correct? And that he would therehe would not allow the pier And there's
a similar federal crime, but itrequires a victim. There were no victims

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in this case. The banks said, we got our money. We don't
rely upon the applicant for the finalevaluation of the property. We do that
ourselves. This was very consistent withour rules and practice. That's why so
many businessman New York wanted clarification beforemoving the devil out of New York.

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It's the identical situation that these clownshad said as a standard ordinary citizen going
in to get a second mortgage onhis or her home and being asked the
value of the property in giving avalue, and somebody else saying no,
we don't think it is worth that, Oh, yes it is. And

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then resolution of how much the propertyis actually to be assessed for relative to
the loan. Well that was done. So nobody got on and it is
absolutely ridiculous and it's some machine tosee these clowns violate the law like that.
But what about the fact that LatissiaJames is sitting there in the courtroom,

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sitting behind Trump with just this juststaring at it. Let me,
she's pained, Judge Doland, whatwould do? How would you have handled
that in your courtroom? First andforemost, I don't believe it would have
made it to your courtroom. No, her could not have. I mean,

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if it would have never gotten thatfar. But she sat there smirking
with her shoes off, I mightadd mm hmm. I mean, I
I just I just don't understand,you know, it really really the fact

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that you have Fannie Willis, LetitiaJames, Elven Braggs. I mean,
it's not by accident that you havethese three black prosecutors literally making fools of
themselves in my view, I mean, making fools in a mockery of the

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system of the judicial, of theof the criminal justice system. But here's
the thing though, and then I'mat at eight thirty, I gotta take
a commercial break here. But herehere's the thing though. This isn't just
you know, it is just notjust these three This is all the way

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with the country. The people don'tlook like us who are doing some of
the Tiffany Henyr comes to mind,you know. Uh, we see the
the the the Johnson guy in Chicago, the mayor brand I think it's Brandon
Johnson in Chicago, and some ofthe outrageous things there. And then once

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again Nancy Pelosi and then Maxine Waters. They both crawled from up from the
from out of their holes. Theyhave a whole lot to say now,
So Judge Brown, Uh, realquick here, I want to read this
article. Then we're gonna go intothe break and then we'll come back and
open up the fall lines. Uhbut just Brown, what uh what is

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going on with with with these blackvolts as we're watching the community fall apart?
Because we're gonna talk about a littlebit about, you know, how
do we save our communities? Thenthe shifting black vote, is it too
late? And so on and soforth. But what say you, Joe,
there's some selfish scoundrels. They don'tgive a damn about the people that

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they're supposed to be representing. They'relooking at things going on the way they
are. There's a very good opportunityto make personal wealth. I got in
UCLA in nineteen sixty five, andwe had out of sixty two thousand full
time students, we had one hundredand forty five black students, seventy three

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undergrad seventy two undergrads, and seventythree grad students full time. We did
all kinds of things, everybody fromKareem Abdul Jabbar Big Blue, then the
basketball player, to everybody on thecampus yours. Truly, we really went
to bat trying to get in moreblack folks, because there were fewer black

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folks at UCLA in nineteen sixty fivethan that were nineteen thirty five, which
is a damn shame. But anyway, we got more in. He got
in a block of two hundred andfifty from nineteen sixty six sixty seven.
Then we got another block of twofifty for sixty eight sixty nine. Unfortunately,

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that second block, instead of participatingwholeheartedly and continuing to ram the doors
open for people to get in,they started saying, brother, it's not
that I don't appreciate the sacrifices youhave made so that I could attend this
institution, but I count afford tojeopardize my career. You're not going without

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me, but I'll be in spiritthat bigro And I remember one clown.
He's dead now, but I promisedhim I was gonna whip his behind before
he died. But I guess Ilied. He had on some gray slacks
and he gave us that routine.We grabbed him and took him to this

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thing, and it was a bigconfrontation out there. He got so scared.
Excuse me, he pissed his pantsand there's a big puddle of piss
around his left shoe. He hadon some tan shoes and they stained,
and you could see the piss thinggoing down in gray pants. So the
two brothers that were holding him lethim go and he fell in his own

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urine. And then after three orfour minutes he got up enough nerve to
stand up and he lit it,literally spread it away. And the son
of a Bitch was a consultant forthree different US presidents on the Black Movement
film This Skihood. That also gotinto another thing that touches on a lot

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of students, now black students,affirmative action. When we came up with
affirmative action in sixty seven sixty eight, we started with the premise that it
had to be race neutral, butthere were certain race neutral events and circumstances
that heavily impacted the minorities, andthose would do what we needed. At

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the University of California, for example, they had a thing that says admission
will be based on a competitive assessmentof great point average APTITO tests and or
other factors that indicate an ability tosucceed. All across the country, that
last category other factors was being usedto bring in student athletes. We said,

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we need to apply that the studentacademics who can do something to bootstrap
their communities. So we got studentsin who succeeded up in Berkeley, all
Berkeley. This is where this wholemess started that destroyed what was affirmative action.
You got some negroes that they wereprobably that would probably be called boulet

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right now, and they wanted toget into medical school and it had been
partying and playing, and their parentswere professionals, and they had no excuse
for not having good grade point averages. At the very least the ones I
met weren't that bright. I couldsee how their aptitude scores weren't too high.

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Anyway, they wanted a test thatgot rid of the other factors that
indicate an ability to succeed, andthey just wanted the highest score in black
say and and the rest of usshit, that'll be reverse discrimination. And
that's exactly what happened. And ifyou want to see what we did,
Justice Roberts, in his opinion mostrecently on affirmative action that people said destroyed

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it s exactly okay, said exactlywhat the black students in California and elsewhere
in the country were saying about it. This has to be those other non
race based factors that negatively impact minorities, but if they impact anybody else,

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they get a chance to take advantageof it. Where you got too many
people in who did not have whatit took to get in the front door,
and when they got in, insteadof trying to maximize the fallout to
their communities, they tried to limitaccess of other black folks so their positions
would be more financially valuable. Andthey had fifty years worth of rick and

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their people off. And you cansee that with these clowns that we just
got through mentioning they don't care aboutblack folks. They care about themselves.
Only now I guess it's commercial breakcoming up. Okay, Yeah, we're
gonna go ahead and take a commercialbreak, and when we get back,
we're gonna certainly let Judge Allen comeon in because I know she had she

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had her days back in college andwe want to kind of hear about a
little bit about that also the activismand all of that that she was a
part of. And so, uh, then we're gonna play I'm Marida.
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been the same question, how comeblack people don't seem to get further on
the economic scale. This is aquestion with multiple answers. First come slavery,
second not knowing our history, andlast not sticking together. Beautiful African
proferb that we unfortunately seem to forget. If you want to go fast and

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go alone, if you want togo far, go together. This quote
still stands for today. If weas black people want to get higher on
the economic leadder, so where dowe start? Well by supporting black owned
businesses. Money is not a solutionto our problems, but a tool to
build our own economy. The timeis now to support black owned businesses,

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black economic network where black owned businessescome together. Yes, I'm sorry,

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Bishop, I was on Mute theWife's Trevor World. I wonder what I
and I'm just rambling on because becauseI've played, I'm playing. In the
background you hear Jeanette Harris and ElfinoRenee, and during the jazz music,

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those are two beautiful sisters who playedthe saxophone and the flute very very well.
Old Frankie Beverly and Maze. Weare one. And so I want
to get back right back into theshow. I want to once again thank
my guests, Judge Joe Brown andjust Sure Allen to being a part of
the programs to that I think themfor being here. I don't I mean,
I don't have anything that I couldgive them for them coming on and

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talking to us tonight, because there'sa lot of stuff going on and we
need to be informed. We definitelyneed to be informed. So these two
judges have taken time out of theirbusiness schedule to come and join me and
to speak to me and to speakto you. All that takes questions of
comments, and so if you gotany questions of comments, you can go
ahead and press one. We've allopen up, open up the lines.

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But I gotta give Judge Allen.I gotta give her a moment or so
to kind of piggyback off of whatwhat Judge Brown said, because she,
you know, she went to lawschool during the sixties, and I'm not
trying to age it, but she'sstill beautiful and just as beautiful today.
I'm quite sure she was like they, So Judge Allen, go ahead and
you know, just kind of talka little bit about that. You know,

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what you heard Judge Brown say interesting, And I Judge Brown and I
were born in the same year,and we started college at the same time.
I started at Penn State University,and my experience was pretty similar because
the state had about thirty thousand studentsand less than two hundred of those students

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were undergraduate. Undergraduate students were black. In fact, I'm sure that I
could probably include the graduate school thereif I was to total all the black
students, even in the graduate school, probably be less than two hundreds.
Wow. And so you know,at Penn State, we had had a

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similar experience. In nineteen sixty State, I participated in my first demonstration sit
in when you know, we hada demonstration sit in at Old Maine,
which was the administrative building of PennState, where we were seeking to address
some of the same issues that theywere addressing at UCLA. So Judge's right

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when he said that this nationwide movement. Now, I can't describe my experience
with a colorfully as the judge,but I'm sure that it's very similar.
And so I didn't go to lawschool until much later though. When I

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graduated from Penn State, I becamea school teacher and and then I went
to law school, probably at alater time than Judge Brown. Did,
But I can I can assure youthat we had those same experiences not only

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attend State University, but at theUniversity of Pittsburgh, where there was an
active effort to recruit more black students, I would say, in the in
the early seventies, and sometimes theydid allow students to come in who were

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really not prepared or equipped to handlethe rigorous of a college education. But
I would say the experience is thesame. Yeah, okay, pretty much.
So did anybody first want anybody outthere wanted to come in? We

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have we have, uh Pianki pressedone and so as far as and I
turned them both on. Uh hereso uh press and people. May I
add one thing that I didn't getan add when we cut off for the

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break where I was leading with allof that stuff on the West coast in
Berkeley was you will recognize the nameBaki, all right, the one that
outlawed affirmative action back when or atleast started out lawry. Baki was a

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white student the faculty at Berkeley MedicalSchool. These black students in Baki,
they plotted and conspired to do this. It let the black students in on
the basis they did, which wouldget affirmative action at Berkeley Medical School ended

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the black students that cooperated would getin, body would get in, and
they would get rid of affirmative action. So these girlous negroes wound up intentionally
ruining affirmative action the way it wassupposed to be for personal selfish interest.
We had many a conference with them. So I add that, man,

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okay, okay, pianchi, Iheard your boys. Well, I was
gonna say that earlier. You theother may con mention of the turn defiant.
But the term originally was called dropup coromania as used with fantaci slaves,

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and draft of familia was a termthat applied to a slave that kept
wanting to run away. Then youhad another terminology that the psychiatric society put
in place, is called diacesus Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a Greek word which means

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burnt phase. Diacesus mean defines thoseare the slaves that would tear up equipment,
break shovels, holes, and soon and so on. So time
come for them to work. Weain't got no tools, yea. So
those two terminologies were live in todefiance. But there's much less that I

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can speak on I must confess thoughto the female that's with us today,
Sarge called me, Yeah, doesAllen? Sarge called me to tell me
and ask me basically, was they'regonna behave talent discussion between you and Judge

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Brown and telling you to say nothat that's been called off because I didn't
want to compete with him over you, Judge Allen, but Valor got the
best of me, and I say, yes they are now, so anyway,
I have to step back. Sowhat what? What? What do
you think about what's going on inthe New York stuff? And because I

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because I want to I want tomove on to I spell her name wrong,
but it's US District Court Judge AlienCannon. She postponed the documents trial
indefinitely, so piacky because I wantto throw this to Judge Brown because and
then we're going to get Judge Allen'stake on this, because she want to

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open up the next conversation. Butrealizing that they made a heck of a
mistake, you know that that stuffgoes goes on, and like Congresses and
Joe Biden is making these rules onthese worries like anti semi Yes, I
am a proud anti semi and Idon't want Congress to maybe acts that's gonna

(41:13):
limit my free first amanut protective speech. And you see it in other anti
agents hate bill. Is what's nextanti saying couple hate bill? I don't
know, But anyway, i'm'na letyou guys go on for the sake of
time. Okay, okay, wellokay, but I gotta respond to that

(41:37):
now, you know that though,Yeah, okay, man, Look,
first of all, I just liketo extend my apology to the esteemed doctor
Allen but so impotently buying for herhand by challenging brother fiance get you a
duel over you. But this wasbefore I knew that you were in mesh

(41:57):
in the bonds of holy matrimon.So I would like offered to you my
considers apologies, your grace. Eventhough I know the Constitution abids titled the
nobility, it's just a personal honorific. So anyway, yeah, i'd like
to I'd like to add an ironicaddendum to what you had said earlier about
the cultural influences that are causing allthis turmoil before and you mentioned the individuals

(42:22):
that are associated with became what becameknows that Frankfort School, which is started
in Frankfurt Jeremy by a spoiled richindustrialist son who was enamored of Marxist lectures
that he heard, and he setup to Frankfurt School and he bought in
all of these Marxist radicals, likelike the Hungarian Marxist uh ne Yorg Lukox

(42:45):
and the German uh radical Marxist Mutzenburg. They set up Instute for Social Research
in Frankfurt, Germany and frank Schooland well, yeah, they set it
up there. And then since theywere Marxist and Jews, when Hitler became
chancellor in that you threty three,they had to get the hell out of

(43:05):
Didge before they wound up getting sentDark Hour or something like that. And
where they set up shop, theyset up shopping and Columbia University, I
mean Rupert Marcus, Theo or Donoand all the rest of that Mary band
they set up for their little shopthere and they started instect the academic culture

(43:28):
of the United States ever since.Man, I find it ironic that is
now undergoing chaos from the monster thatthey created. It's too it's too iright
for me. Columbi University had abig anacrit And you notice when you hear

(43:50):
these people, that you hear theprotesters out there, then I just then
not just acting of saying that,you know, they're concerned about the plight
of the Palestinians as some of them, maybe even most of them are,
but a great number of them,if not most of them, are just
going through the laundry list of grievancesand resentments against the United States. It's

(44:12):
constitution, its history, traditions,it's culture, and it's people, and
you know, and that's really whatit is. It's all about an attempt.
The issue is never the issue.The issue with these people is the
revolution issue, and they help implementthat revolution. They are going after the
man they probably god as the singlegreatest threat right now to their continuation is

(44:36):
power. And they see that asDonald Trump, which explains this lawfair that
you're speaking of right now, Likeyou said, lawfair that I never witnessed
before. Hell, this guy hasn'teven presented us what the felony is,
the underlying felony that led to thisescalating this crime by way, which way,
Public Law seventeen in New York Cityis something that only deals with elections

(45:00):
not center all elections. This isthe past three It's like not seen.
Yeah, okay, thanks you andyou're can hang around because I'm ready to
do this thing. Here. Didany did any you judges want to comment
on anything? You just had beforeI read this, I mean, Judge,

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Judge Allen, Judge Brown, didany of y'all want to comment?
No? I agree with what's beensaid, but I don't have a comment.
Okay, Okay, then we're gonnago ahead. We're gonna move on
to the next because I didn't wantto talk about the shifting black vote,
and but I want to. Iwanted to tackle this real quick, because

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Judge Judge Allen, I want I'mgonna throw the first question, well when
I get to the shifting black vote, because the primary talks about black win.
But this this judge, federal judgedown in Florida, because here the
federal judge in Florida presiding over thedocument, the classified document prosecution the president,

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former President Donald Trump has counseled toMay twentieth trial dates postpone it indefinitely.
The order from the US District CourtJudge A. Lean Cannon had been
expected in light of still unresolved issuesin the case of the and because Trump
is currently on trial in the separatecase in Manhattan charging him in connection with

(46:34):
hush money ms during the twenty sixteenpresidential elections. The New York case involved
several of the same lawyers representing himin the federal Florida case, Cannon.
Judge Cannon said in the five pageorder to Tuesday that it would be imprudent
to finalize a new trial date now, casting further doubt on the federal prosecutor's

(46:58):
ability to bring Trump to trial beforethe November presidential election. Trump faces dozen
of fellowly counts accusing him of illegallyhoarding at his Mary Largo State in Palm
Beach, Florida, classified documents thathe cooks with him after he left the
White House of twenty twenty one,and then obstructed the FBI's to get documents

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back he had athleted, not guiltyand denied wrongdoint Just Brown, I've heard
you say. The United States andNavies versus Egan and ea EGA N the
United States Department Department United States Departmentof the Navy in nineteen eighty eight.

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If you read the concurring opinions,they discussed that the president's authority to classify
or declassify documents stems from his constitutionalauthority as one commander in chief of the
Armed Forces and two as chief diplomaticthe United States. Several of the concurring

(48:05):
opinions said he had the right todeclassify in any form, shape, or
fashion he chokes. He can classifyand declassify it. He maintains that duty
as a fiduciary responsibility to the UnitedStates of America, even when he is

(48:27):
no longer still in office. Nowthere is a federal act dealing with the
so called archivists. The case thatdeals with that is eighteen o three.
The title of the case is avery famous one in American law. It's
called Marbury versus Madison, and itstands for the principle that the president does

(48:52):
not have to follow an unconstitutional actof Congress, and the courts may declare
it unconno institutional. That may beone of the reasons the judge is taking
a close look at it, becausewhat's in Trump's possession in mill Argo was

(49:12):
still guarded by the same Secret Servicethat guarded the stuff one, and he
was in the White House. Asa fact, those classified documents were provided
for his perusal, and he,I'm sure, like a lot of smart
men, memorized or got the gistof most of them, so they are
in his head, which, bythe way, is one of the rationalizations

(49:36):
for maintaining Secret Service protection for aformer president for life, because he's such
a repository of things that would bedangerous in the hands of the country's enemy,
So you don't want him kidnapped,tortured, and the information extracted.
Next thing is two years ago,I was in New Jersey and I along

(50:01):
with two gentlemen who had been formerdefense well they were still defense lawyers and
former assistant district attorneys in the NewYork area. We went over the three
laptop downloads that Hunter Biden left.There were three, not one, and

(50:22):
from what's in there, there isa great inference that one of the reasons
that Trump kept the material in hispossession was because it was highly incriminating of
the Obama Biden administration. In fact, very serious issues are suggested by what's

(50:45):
in those laptops in terms of theemails and such like. So that being
said, he may have been carryingout his responsibility as a former chief executive
to keep those documents safe and notturned them over to the culprits that they
may have implicated. Now that's what'ssupposed to happen. There is good cause

(51:08):
shown at this point for the twoclowns in New York to have been over
ridden when they wanted to deny resetit the case are laying the prosecution because
I know New York doesn't get aroundto your typical case to prosecute it as

(51:30):
quickly as they're doing here. Thishas all the earmarks of violating the reasons
that we do have a Bill ofRights, which is not so much to
protect criminals, but is designed toprotect ordinary citizens from the abuse of governmental

(51:50):
authority lawfare, if you wish touse the term as a good one.
So allen as we bro as JamesBrown put it. You know, this
document case, the president has theauthorities to classify and declassify any document.

(52:14):
As I see this, this isan attempt by these folks to delegitimize the
presidency of Donald Trump and ultimately thepresidency of the United States. I mean,
because if this can be done toPresident Trump, then all the other
former presidents you know they're up forit too, right, absolutely, But

(52:40):
I wanted to add something, anotheraspect or another reason why I believe that
Judge Cannon I continued this case indefinitely, and that is that it's my understanding
that there has been some the evidenceof mishandling of the of the documents and

(53:04):
some manipulation of the documents. It'smy understanding that there's also chain of custody
issue with regard to the handling ofthe documents, and that apparently when these
documents were sieved, they were scanned, and that there's a discrepancy between the

(53:28):
scanning and the current status status ofthe documents, and some of this,
it's my understanding has been admitted toby Jack Smith, and that trial judge
is responsible has the ultimate or thedecision, has the responsibility to decide which

(53:52):
evidence is admissible and which evidence isnot admissible, and if the evidence has
been manipult related or mishandled, orif there's a chain of custody problems,
those matters have to be straightened outbefore a trial can proceed. So my
understand well, I mean, Iguess she could, but I understand that

(54:19):
these are some of the objections thatTrump's lawyer. President Trump's lawyers have raised,
and these are some of the mattersthat they are trying to resolve before
the trials can proceed. So Imean, I I understand, I agree
with Judge Brown. The president,you know, has the authority to decide

(54:43):
which documents are going to be declassifiedor otherwise. And it's interesting that none
of the other people were president whenthey have classified document in their possession.
That includes Biden. It was asenator, it was the vice president.
He was not the president. Sothe fact that something is receiving such disparate

(55:09):
treatment in this case is very problematicand troublesome. Just let me say something.
Let me say something, you'll getthat. And the laptops, we
were reading the downloads and there aremultiple references in the communications on the laptops

(55:30):
too. Did your clients or didyour guys see what was in the box
behind the vet Did they get achance to see that, There'll be more
for them? And we still don'thave a release from the Secret Services to
who those people were. So itlooks like secret documents, the classified documents

(55:52):
were being put someplace for foreign representativesto examine. And that goes back to
that same thing about the declination byher recommend prosecution of Biden because of his
enfeebled conditions. So if he's infeeble, who's running the country is executive?

(56:16):
Very good question. What doesn't thiskind of go back to what Hillary
Clinton and the UH and the andthe and the smash blackberries and the emails
and all that. Then we gota predictive assumption by the special Counsel Benjamin

(56:37):
Heard that a jury will find himto be a sympathetic, senile, demented
old man, and therefore it's notworthy to pursue a prosecution on that basis.
Now, it would seem to mesince he laid out every one of
the criteria by which the man shouldhave been charged. And then if you

(56:58):
want to raise the defense of diminishedafter something, I got old enough.
How he's gonna raise that defensil somethingto happen thirty years ago? Uh?
It let him do it at thattime, says when it is it a
prosecutor job? Did it predict howa jury is going to throw on anything?
Did anybody even play this issue up? Have they made this announcement?

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Well? Actually talking about earlier.Actually, sometimes when you're negotiating with the
district attorney or one of his highlevel assistants. You do talk about the
likelihood of conviction and what a juryis supposed to do, but that usually
works out to a good plea bargainfor you. It doesn't result in all,

(57:44):
we're not going to prosecute the Somethingis inherently wrong with that. The
other thing, too, is arethey saying his capacity is so diminished that
he cannot adequately participate pay in hisown defense? Are they saying something different?
Because you see, here's the deal, it's his state of mind at

(58:07):
the time. The crimes were allegedto have been committed quite a few decades
ago, not right now. Thereyou go, there you go, there
you go. But like I said, I thought, it seems like they
were just trying to pass the buck. I mean, they're not making any
any kind of considerations about what ajury might rule in the case Donald Trump.

(58:27):
With all these outrageous federal charges againstthem, you know, the incitement
to commit an insurrection and you knowthe class by documents case and obstruction ajustice,
there wasn't any calculation about how ajury might regard as president just uh
yeah, and case in point Trumpgets selected. There's an interesting constitutional issue

(58:52):
can'ty pardon himself? Wow? Noauthority for any federal one. Uh.
Let's let's let Judge Allen special UhNo, I just said why not?

(59:15):
Yeah, because I mean he shouldbe able to uh pardon himself. I
mean, are we're gonna are we'regonna get uh uh by uh what's his
name? His son? Hunter?Judge Allen, what do you think of
about about that situation with his sonand all of the things that are going
on? Do you first see himpardoning his own son? And well,

(59:39):
I don't. I don't he coulddo. I see he could, but
I mean his son has has hebeen convicted? He hasn't been convicted of
anything? Yes? Well, okay, he can be part he doesn't have
to be. Uh. Biden isin office and vice president. When Obama

(01:00:02):
pardons at twenty three British twenty sevenBritish petroleum executives who are indicted down there
in that Gulf rig blowout, hepardoned them before they were even arranged.
Okay, wow. And so Hunterhas been indicted, has he not?

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Yes? Yes? Okay, okay? Wow? Well. Uh. Book
means a lot here because it bringsme to my next topic. I don't
know. Uh, PIACKI, didyou have anything you want to say?
And then I'm gonna ask Bishop becauseBishop come in and we'll bring Bishop in

(01:00:51):
and have him comment. But PIACKI, did you have anything? Speak?
Now? Forever you hold your piece, young man. Okay, I was
one thing. I'll say one thingreal quick, and I you know,

(01:01:12):
I just have to revisit this onemore time. Sorry, said he didn't
when he found out that the judgewas engaged in holy matrimony. When I
found out, I cried myself tosleep that night. But go ahead.
I just I didn't want to soundlike a whiner. I didn't want to

(01:01:32):
sound like a whiner, so Ididn't say that I did. Are you
there? Did you? I knowyou have something you want to say?
It's been a great night. Iwas. I thought you were going to
call me into action as a bishop. You know, I can marry somebody
around here that's better to be responsiblefor divorces. But I had to power

(01:01:57):
to marriage to the thought about sowe can't. I can't do that.
I can do that. I've gonea few with my life. But but
we're glad to get clear up now. Thank you, beyones, thank you,
Thank you sirs. For clearing thatup. And I'm sure that Judge
Allen appreciates all of that, andI know our husband does. So I'm
getting back to the uh uh.There's so much been covered and and I

(01:02:21):
want to say how much I'm alwaysto my friends, Judge Joe Brown.
I truly am glad to have tobe with you again. It's been a
howling time for me my in thesepast past two months. But we're glad
to have to be with you onthe program. One more time, Judge,
one more time, one more time. God bless you, my friend.

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I really do. I mean thatfrom ard uh. But really there's
so many things, there's so muchhippocay that and I'm using a biblical term
here, but it's but it's sotrue. There's a double standard here that
does see I'm one that believes infairness, and what I do, what
I he is unfairness, the unevenhandedness, if you want to use the

(01:03:04):
term, because I see in onesense the Dems in particular, they love
to talk about the law when whenit's when it suits them, but then
they also love to manipulate it,manipulate the law when it doesn't suit them.
And I see this time and timeagain. No, I'm not a
Republican, I'm not a Democrat.I'm an independent. I try to look

(01:03:25):
at things straightforward and see which waythe tide, which way I believe,
uh, the things should go.But I'll say this about Donald Trump,
that that he's been excusing a lotof things that that he's not guilty of.
And it's and it's such a surpriseto me that we can as a
people, and I'm talking about AfricanAmericans now black folks, that we can
as a people be so judgmental aboutit and then turn a deaf eye to

(01:03:52):
one of the most if you wantto use a racist and a white supremacist
in terms of years and years anddecades and decade, he's a fruit.
There's nobody works than Joe Bidens.There's nobody worse than Joe Biden. He's
he doesn't do anything for us nowthat loan back in the seventies, in
the eighties and the nineties, allover six things he's done. And sometimes

(01:04:15):
we just want to just ignore that, turn a blind eye to that,
and focus on someone just a fewyears ago. Entertainers or people of even
clergy just loves to surround themselves withbeing with Donald Trump. Now all of
a sudden, he's a black chief, and and and and Biden is the
golden child. And it is.It just amazes me how we as a

(01:04:41):
people, even in politics, theblack castus and they don't they do absolutely
nothing for us. They're gonna absolutelyenohing for us, but get our votes
time and time again, and thenmake it clear that they don't even hide
it anymore us to hide it onthe facade of being on your side.
They don't even hide it anymore.They're bold with and I'm I'm so glad
that people that like on your programyou victim in particularly because you sponsored these

(01:05:05):
types of programs. But listening tothe judge, knowing the position of Sarge,
knowing the predication positions of Pianki,I concur in so many ways with
this double standard two five to lookingat the fan coin uh uh position that
that so many people are doing now. And I really find it very repulseless

(01:05:27):
and repugnant to see this kind ofactivity. The main thing about Donald Trump,
you don't want them in again andwill do anything necessary, Malcolmack says,
by any means necessary. They're usingthat same philosophy in dealing with Donald
Trump. They tried it over andover again. It's four years of presidency.
From the very first time when whenMaxie Waters told folks of her followers

(01:05:51):
and her supporters to stone wall andand and be abrasive and heart and in
true in the lives of people thatsupport this man. And here we are
in twenty twenty four and we're stillhaving that same tactic. Throw all kinds
of things, and see how theydo. They put us in the forefront,

(01:06:13):
Max Seine and Jim five Burns.Now we've got all these district attorneys
and judges were African Americans. Theylove to show up. They love to
put us in the forefront. Theyhave no good thing in store for any
of us, but they love toput us in the forefront of these kinds
of fights. Because once again,you know, if you talk about if
you talk about Willis, look atthe black clergy surrounded her, gave her

(01:06:36):
awards. Oh what an awful thing. And he's gonna come on now,
the woman had an elsted affair witha man, a married man, and
the church is backing that awarding,that promoting that only because he's black and
she's Democrats. So we almost sawa compulsion to support that. It's insanity

(01:07:00):
and if we go down, it'snot gonna be nobody far but our own.
Thank you. Yeah wow. Man. Let me add something to this
mix. Since you talked about justbriefly, you talked about the Black Caucus,
there's a Liberty Freedom Caucus also knownas the lgbt q I A plus

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Caucus, and just about, withmaybe four or five exceptions, just about
every member of the Black Caucus isalso a member of the LGBTQU Caucus.
A member of the l z eb t q I A Caucus who is
also the congressional representative for the ninthdistrict here in Memphis is up until the

(01:07:45):
last two or three months listed waslisted as chairman of the Black caucuss Reparations
Committee. His name is Steve Cohen. He's an old decrepit gay Jewish guy
white and he runs the reparations committeefor the Black Caucus. And when you

(01:08:11):
look at these things, you'll seethat basically the Black Caucus is not representing
Black folk. They're representing the Rainbowcult. And I say it's a cult
because part of the problem with whythey're coming at Trump how they are and
with the vigor they are. Andwhat's going strangely wrong all across the country,

(01:08:34):
from school to government, is becausefor the first time we've actually got
an attempt made to impose an officialstate religion. Now, excuse me,
Buddhist Buddhism is an ancient and noblereligion, but it has no god,

(01:08:56):
or correct me if I'm wrong,Bishop. It has whatever god or gods
you may choose to bring to themix, but it doesn't have one.
Lgbtq Ia is a cult. Itdoesn't have a god either, but it's
a system of nihilistic philosophy. Whatyou should not be required to do,

(01:09:19):
not what you should be required todo, which are the strictures of down
there every other religion that humanity isadopted. You're not supposed to be brave,
courageous, have morality, have ethics. You're not supposed to deal with
duty, honor, obligation, accountability, or any of those. They're all

(01:09:42):
out of the window. You can'tput a Nativity seen in a city hall
or in a school without somebody gettingupset, but you can put the rainbow
in there. You cannot put across under the American flag on a government
flagpole, but you can put therainbow under there. You can't put the

(01:10:02):
six pointed Jewish star, but youcan put the rainbow. You can't put
the Islamic crescent in the star,but but you can put the rainbow.
You can't put a picture of Buddhaunder the American flag, but you can
put the rainbow. You can demandthat the teachers adhere to a crazy code
that violates the devil out of theirBut they just freedoms. We're saying.

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They can't tell the parents that yourchild is trying to be they're trying to
convert your child. And the otherthing is they're not just trying to groom
these children for sexual use. It'ssomething else they're tried to do. They're
trying to inculcate and socialize these children. Mama said, you can't go to
church. If you don't go tochurch on Sunday, you can't go anywhere

(01:10:46):
else the rest of the week.Well, these kids from three or four
years old, in preschool, fivesix, kindergarten, first grade through twelfth
grade to sit here be exposed tothis propaganda for five hours a day,
five hours, five days a week. There's a rainbow up on the mill

(01:11:10):
part on the bulletin board, onthe blackboard, on the walls down the
hallway, and they're being propagandized togo for this nihilistic philosophy of self hate,
which is they don't love themselves.They hated their boys, so they
want to be girls. They hatethat their girls, so they want to

(01:11:30):
be boys. It's astonishing what's goingon here. And this is the imposition
of a religion. The censor saysseven and a half percent of the country
is impacted. You've got four anda half percent, maybe at max,
in certain population areas that are buying. You've got a little less than one

(01:11:55):
and a half percent who are mailhome sexuals. You've got slightl less than
one percent who are female homosexuals.And you don't even have a half percent
who are training. But yet thissmall group, as you thinking, at
least half of the country is andthey boot plagued off of this tradition of

(01:12:17):
we have to be kind to thenegro, so we cannot discriminate against them,
so we can't make any judgment calls. But judge correct me if I'm
wrong. Isn't helf for most ofwhat we do in a courtroom based on
a judgment call as to what isright and wrong? I mean, do

(01:12:38):
you sit there and let yeah,do you sit there and let somebody who
was compelled to rape get away withit? Because he's got a composion.
Though you have sanctions, he isexpected, if she is expected to conform
their conduct to these standards, nomatter what the composion might be, unless
they're insane, if you want todo that, but these o can I

(01:13:00):
supposed to be insane already. Soabsolutely, it's just in the city,
is what they're doing. Josee Allen, there we go. It is.
It is, you know, anotherthing, what they're doing. The joke
Dale, let me judge all didnow. Judge Brown is absolutely correct.
He's absolutely correct. I had theopportunity to, you know, I left

(01:13:27):
the trial bench in two thousand andseven for the appellate court. Uh,
and then I retired, and Ihad an opportunity late last year to go
and visit the juvenile court. AndI walked into my old courtroom just to
see, you know, for sentimentalpurposes, and I saw a six sign

(01:13:54):
on the wall of the courtroom weprotect lgbt Q. Right. I was
shocked, because as judges, wetake an oath to uphold the Constitution,
and I thought that meant we protectedeverybody's constitutional rights. And I can't imagine

(01:14:19):
having a sign on the wall ofmy courtroom we protect black rights and being
able to get away with that.But we have judges in our Trial court
division here in Allegheny County where Ilive. You know, every courtroom you
go into you have the United Statesflag on one side of the bench and

(01:14:41):
the state flag, Pennsylvania state flagon the other side of the bench.
We actually have judges who have theLG the Rainbow flag in their courtrooms.
How they get away with that,I don't know. We have judges now,
you know, they have meeting whichthey're identifying themselves on their letterhead by

(01:15:02):
their pronouns. You know, Idon't know how you preside over a family
case and how you can even beginto give the appearance of impropriety when you
have the rainbow flags like in yourcourtroom. I don't know how people get

(01:15:26):
away with that. But but oursystems, I mean, judge Judge Brown,
you're absolutely right. And as faras it's congressional and I have to
say congressional Black Caucus because a friendof mine called them the Congressional Black Caucus,

(01:15:46):
and I have to catch myself.I mean, they want to tell
people like us sellout. So theyhave completely sold out to the LGBTQ agenda.
They've completely sold out to the abortionuh A and lobbyists they had.

(01:16:12):
I mean, everybody knows it takesthousands and thousands of dollars to get elected
to Congress, and they will toldthe line. That's how they remain in
that position. Uh did you youhave something you want to say real quickly.
Yeah, when you see like forinstance, in Atlanta, well you

(01:16:38):
got an iconic and extreme church membershipsupporting the likes of Walmas, who's a
woman beater, wife beater. Thenthey complained about what p did he done
that was on video done doing?And then they support the life of a

(01:16:59):
family willis who have relationships with amarried man. You have to ask the
mentality in the state of mind ofpeople nowadays, especially blacks in Atlanta and
elsewhere. Yeah, well, Iwant to play this clip because we get
into the bottom of the hour hereand show be over. I want to

(01:17:21):
play this clip and I'm gonna startoff with Judge Allen after this real quick
to just selt mockt in something.Let's be clear, Donald Trump is using
the stereotype of black being criminals.He's in a mug shot for trying to

(01:17:43):
interfere with an election. Blacks werearrested to get the right to vote.
America. Please please still with yourTrump loving friends. Have them understand why
what we just heard is unbelievably racistbut also problematic for a democracy. That
man should never be president of theUnited States. Not only reason. We

(01:18:06):
have a size to cousin of blackda and Portontality and the black sheriff that
made sure he got one to ensurethat he knew that he was not a
buff law. So that was acombination of some clips of Judge Allen.
Because what's happening. This was backwhen Trump was mouth shot and everything,

(01:18:28):
and it went viral and he madethe comments about being black. Folks are
beginning to like him, they said, because he was saying, you know,
we're all criminals, and they madehim a criminal. So without all
of a sudden, we like him. And so what we're seeing is but
there's a huge shift in particularly inblack women, running away from the Democrat

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Party. This article and this camefrom Essence magazine and it says as the
twenty twenty four elections US elect presidentialelection approaches, Black Women's Round Table and
Essence has released an annual Power ofthe System vote poll and surveyed Black women
voters on the issues that matter mostto them. This is the ninth year

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of the BWR and Essence has patternedand this year's survey with the findings from
HITS Strategy poll eight hundred Black womenvoters nationwide from February sixteenth to February twenty
first, and that is of thisyear, the majority of Black women forty

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seven percent across generations are dissatisfied thedirection of the country up to eighteen points
since twenty twenty two, primarily dueto cost of living concerns. Now down
here and just Brown wants you tolisten to this also some of it,

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It says. Other key findings thePower System poll includes the following. Tackling
inflation and bringing down costs top tookthe top spot thirty nine percent as the
most important issue of the twenty twentyfour election. Reducing the cost of living
was the top concern with eighty sixpercent of respondence ranking and at least and

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nine in importance of the scale ofone to ten. Gun violence was also
a top concern. Twenty nine percentof responding said that the reducing gun violence
and expanding gun safety laws should befocused on. Eighty eight percent of Black
women support reproductive freedom, of coursethey do. Sixty two percent of the
respondents said they were more likely tosupport a candidate running for offices that if

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they were committed to supporting racial justice. According to the Pole, black women
voters think the Democrat Party is muchbetter than the Republican Party on the host
of shoes, especially when it comesto supporting protecting their rights and freedoms.
Now, there was there was anotherpart in their work talked about fifty two

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percent of Black women now are sayingthat they're going to vote, you know,
still support Joe Biden, meaning thetwenty percent is still undecided. So,
Judge Allen, the question that Ihave to you in this short period
of time that we have, whatdid you think about that poll? And
you know, I don't know howmuch conversations you may have with family members

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and friends, female members, butabout what's getting ready to happen, and
you know, supposedly in November thisyear as a pertainity to the election,
What what? What are their sentiments? And that thought well before before I
say that I have to speak tothe commentators. Oh who I have to

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souse? You heard our favorite reverend? Huh, I asked, I have
to speak to the clips uh huh. Being ignorant. I think it's a
prerequisite for being on the for beingon MSNBC and CNN, Fox, mainstream

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media. And unfortunately too many peoplethat I know, black women in particular,
listen to these people. And Ialways say, if the mainstream media
is your primary source of information,you're both uninformed because they tell you what

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they want you to hear, andyou're missing formed because much of what they
state is a lie. And sopeople who sit and listen to al Sharpston
and I have to, you know, make sure that I say Sharpton rather
than Charlatan. And people who sitand listen to these talking, I mean,

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this is what we were talking aboutbefore. People who listened to them
have been so brainwashed. I meanthat they can't see straight. You know.
For for whatever a person thinks ofDonald Trump, I don't see how.
I just don't see how anyone who'sthinking clearly and knows anything about history

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can vote for for Joe Biden.I don't get it. Well, Brown,
this black woman don't get it.I'm sorry we don't have one time,
but I want to Brown in realquick, judge, because I got
one more guy. I think Frankwants to come in and common a question,
because this is some way did youas a negro who is not dance

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to be shown love and the oldhands with his neighbor and seeing we shall
overcome? So go find a negrobefore it's too late and bring him in
so he can be part of thisscheme we have for nineteen dollars a month,

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save a nigga, you can bepart. Got Okay, Now I
gotta watch it. Anyway, thiswhole thing is a farce. It's like
I dealt with the NBA, theBlack Bar Association when they came to Memphis.

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I wound up thanks to the folkoutside of this immediate area, got
inducted into the Hall of Fame.Somebody said, well, you haven't practiced
long. Of us said, well, how damn long you got to practic
at least twenty five years? Isaid, I've been doing it for fifty.
Okay, Yeah, So anyway,I found out what's going on with

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this. They had been awarded twentyeight thousand dollars to reach out to young
lawyers to try to get them involvedin community service. These no good,
filthy negroes took the twenty eight thousanddollars and put on a champagne cheese tasting
function for the executives of the organizationand their friends instead of spending it for

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the purpose. And that's what youhave. Chicken Enemy number one al shopped
in here, who's on the wallin every end hour, is the number
one enemy of chickens all. Hehasn't enough. That fool has the nerves
to talk this stuff. He's boughtoff house negroes and these tr bedwinches.

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Now the free comments. We DanaCumberlander and I've been working closely with the
people in Fulton County, Georgia.In fact, we had Judge McAfee on
today. We interviewed him for anhour. Very intelligent young man, outstanding
judge. Support him. He's gotit squared away. But you got a

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sheriff for Fulton County. His nameis Lea Butt. Did you know that
clown even used his name in thecredit gay port he's a gay porn star
or was before he game Sheriff Fannycan't explained seven and a half million dollars

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to reduce the backlog of criminal cases. She has stolen this stuff. What
she and Wade were doing was nonderingthe money. The whole thing was is
she appointed. Look look what isit? I saw Wade got paid,

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Faddy got laid head. Period.But see this thing that they have is
a game. And you got adistrict attorney that's so damn stupid. She
doesn't even know about the Fifth Amendment, which she should have taken and shut

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up. You got that woman,that got that woman that's da It appeared
on the Breakfast club last week orwas up in Baltimore that got convicted,
and it's supposed to go back nextweek for sentencing. She didn't testify,
but she got up and started braggingabout breaking the damn lawn. She didn't

(01:27:43):
even know it. She got aloan from a mortgage fund that says you
can't get the down payment through aloan or advance on certain programs. She's
hold about my money only had topay a raw penalty from the plan that
specifically forbid you damn fool, andyou get talking about it doing you wrong.

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Hey, but God alone, God, and let's see how art being
a black folk. It's art beinga black person. He says, Oh,
that's what you said. And youknow what I hate about it.
I went to school with her daddy. He was in second year law school

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eventually the year she was born,in nineteen seventy two. And that woman
is so much gone like her father. It is just absolutely pathetic. I
would have slappt that helper with contempt, backwards and forward for the conduct,
and you shivered it up in thatcourt room. I agree with you.

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I agree with you. He's sittingup. Let me sell you where you're
lied. Let me say you whereyou're life. I mean I was.
I was fit to be tied becauseI couldn't believe that she got away with
that stuff. Yeah, well,did you see her assistant in that trial
where the judge this ball the brother. Yeah, she's in there and her

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assistant is acting a damn fool.I would have straightened her hat. Excuse
me behind out, I mean,I'm sorry, approached the bench. Did
you go to law school? Well, you better act like it before you
get a ten day free vacation.Her see the shaff oh well, on

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top of all that, what aboutKim Gardner, who's got ten subpoenas on
her nobody can find it. Shegonna show up to a job from Is
that from Saint Louis? Yes?Sat Loik versus black female prosecutor? Yes,
I mean, I mean I've neverhim. Fox were that one up

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in Chicago, one in Missouri,one Baltimore. I mean, come on,
something is wrong out here, y'alls, and and they're all hiding behind
blackness. We're all it's it's it'sjust mind boggling, and the country is

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on fire and burning up. Sojust said we're gonna go over just a
few minutes, so sorts, Uh, I'll go ahead because I don't want
to keep the judges any longer thanI have to. And there fright,
let quick, uh but no timeis pressing? Yeah, yeah, My
question is this to either of bothof you? Esteem jeris now the problem

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with that little uh means gonna fightbetween three female members of conference the other
day obscure kind of put into thatround the fact that the entire purpose of
the hearing was determined whether or notCongress should issue contempt charges against Maradonalands.

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Now I've heard people floating the ideathat Congress should be lord to somebody that
I don't believe they used this thenineteenth century inherent contempt, which means they
could asked order the sergeant of Armsto go arrest Mary Donald. And now
I'd like to ask both of youif you can't answer the question, what

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by what mechanism do they invoke inherentcontempt? How are it be administered,
and what is the likely outcome ofit if they do? Just you didn't
have to take that one, Brown, It's constitutional. You have to have

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the inherent power of the legislative bodyto conduction necessarily investigations, to properly spend
the taxpayer's money, all right,to afford an opportunity to them to do
investigative work. They have subpoena powers. They're generally enforced through a federal court,

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which in this case would be theSecond Circuit, the same one that
contains the Supreme Court. So theycan do that. And by the way,
you know what was embarrassing, Well, looked like a damn fool,
and so did that. What's what'sthe other one? The little twenty eight

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years old? No, now you'retalking about aoc ale Cortes, Yeah,
Cortes, Yeah, actually a green. Actually the embarrassing thing was for the
race embarrassment. The white woman cameacross better. She acted like she had

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some sense. She stayed on pointand didn't go acting the damn food and
they were running the other on runningthat Spanish sister girl thing or sister girl
things about you gotta cut us someslack from being a fool. But then
you turn around and get upset whensomebody treats you like a damn food.
Yeah, that was hard, Frank, Okay, we got Frank, come

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on real quick, man. I'msorry. I just got worried that you
were on the line a few minutesago. But for it, you're there,
Frank, Okay. Well, Ijust want to I just want to
take this opportunity to think that bothof you judges. I'll be reaching out

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to you guys, get ladies andgentlemen, uh later on this week.
I truly appreciate the fact that Joetook time out of your is the schedule
and maybe even a Sunday evening relaxingto be with us here on in conversation
with your host week, you seevery insightful conversation I hope that sometime in

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