‘Andor’ S2 Eps. 1-3 Recap, ‘Ghost of Yotei’ Trailer, and ‘Revenge of the Sith’

Welcome to episode 138! In this pod we get into the first 3 episodes of ‘Andor’ Season 2 and share our excitement for the next installment of the ‘Ghost’ video game series ‘Ghost of Yotei’.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
What up, folks, and welcome to the Chiproculture episode of
one thirty eight with myself, the Depocelurian and John Dorr.
Today we're gonna talk about Indoor season two, the first
three episodes. I'm gonna get into a couple of other
things as well, like the new Ghost Yota trailer. So yeah,
it's gonna be exciting. We're pretty pretty hype on Indoor

(00:37):
Season two. We'll get into it a little bit. But
before we get started, Aaron, how's it going, dude.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Not not too bad, pretty chill weekend, playing some Saturday
Saturday night magic as usual. Watched the Lakers Lakers Game
three earlier today, which was very sad and disappointing, but
it was a fun game to watch. Yeah. Man, just
kind of dealing with a little bit of foot pain,
which has not been fun for the most part, but

(01:03):
you know, we're we're getting through it. I think I
mentioned the last pod going down to see my parents
next week, which would be fun and be like a
little extended weekend. I think I'm going down there for
like six days total, five days, six nights kind of thing.
But yeah, she'd be good to see him, and especially
like my dad's my dad's dog, Phoebe. She had like

(01:25):
a weird like collapsing episode a few weeks ago, and
she's like, yeah, she's she's eighteen and she has heart disease.
And I mean, if you guys have tuned in this
podcast long enough, I think most of you would know
that I work in the veterinary field, so like I
have an understanding for these things. But it'll just be

(01:47):
nice to see to see her, you know, before the
the inevitable comes. Of course she gets the thanos, the
what the.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Inevitable? Sorry talking about yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
That does not mean it's not my dog. Sorry, it's
getting getting real sad and emotional and heartfelt. And then
that just dropped that My bad, My bad.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Honestly, it is very real of you.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Wow, yeah, super real, super real guy. But no, it's
it should be. It should be a good time, eat
some great food and just chill. I did also, speaking
of and Or, my dad's just as hyped on and
Or as we are, which is amazing to see, like
this generational gap between us, and like how Star Wars

(02:38):
like reaches so many different audiences, you know, But I
did promise him that I will not watch any of
next week's three episodes until I go down there and
we'll watch them together. So Joe, no spoilers, no spoilers, No,
you won't.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You won't hear any spoilers from me, of course, quiet.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
As a mouse. Yeah, I'm so looking forward to the
next three episodes. It should be a good time, good
little like you know, Bond in Moment over Star Wars
should be fun wait time.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So you're also not gonna like the episodes that come
out this coming Tuesday. You're not gonna watch those.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm not gonna watch any of them till you go,
until you go down there. Yeah, okay, because we also
wouldn't be potting next weekend, So I because I'm gonna
be gone, right, But you know, I feel like it's
a fun thing to do. But yeah, I mean, other
than that, I've been been good, man, Just taking a day,
day by day, hour by hour kind of thing. And
I can't can't complain over here, I can, but I won't.
How you doing, man, you been.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Hear you to be completely honest with you, not great.
I am like I feel like this is the first
time I've ever had a terrible reaction to Pallen being
in the air, and that's the only thing that's going wrong.
Everything else is fine. I don't know if you guys
can hear it in my voice, but I'm having an
insane allergic reaction to Pallen And I don't know, I

(03:52):
don't think it was really a thing that was in
the air. And like back home and Clarmont, right, like ah.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Different different, different, different terrain, you.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Know exactly, And it's also just like very dry where
like Claremont's super close to the weather. I don't I
don't know if that means anything when it comes to pollen,
but I'm getting fucked up out here. It's it's terrible.
And it was funny because last week Thursday, specifically April
twenty third, Imax, like the company Imax, the movie movie
theater Imax, they they announced that they're gonna be giving

(04:26):
out like film strips of the movie Sinners, and I
wanted one because like, I don't know, it's it's it's
just cool to have just like a little piece of
a movie like that, you know. On Thursday, I booked
a ticket to ce Sinners, not to watch the movie again.
I mean, I want to see it again eventually, but

(04:47):
I was just gonna go check in, grab the film strip,
and then go home. So I booked the ticket, went
to the end of the day and then I step
outside and my allergies are probably like the worst they've
ever been, Like they're my eyes are just filled with tears.
I'm like sneezing up a storm like it was awful.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
And you're getting Final boss By by springtime.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Dude, dude, it is not okay, Like my eyes are
fucked up. It's terrible, and it mind you, It's like
a fifteen to twenty minute walk to the movie theater.
So I'm just walking outside like constantly rubbing my eyes
like I probably looked like I was having like a
really bad day to like all these people in the street,
but you know it, it was fine. Then I get
there and they're fucking out of.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Film yeam, make it even worse.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, and then I just had to sit down, completely defeated,
rubbing my eyes again. It looked like I may have
gotten there and I was so sad that I didn't
get a film strip, and I just started crying. But
that wasn't the case.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Damn. You just got to give it the elder ring mentality. Man,
you gotta beat the final blost dude.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But uh yeah no, maybe someday, but yeah, there's if
there's anything about I guess spring and summer in New
York is like I've come to realize that my favorite
conditions to just hang out in are like sunny and
it's like forty or forty yeah, and forty or forty
five degrees out yeah, no wind obviously, and that's something

(06:19):
you can't get in California. But then I realize, like
now that now that we're in spring and summer, I
would trade California summer like ten times over, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And that's that's funny you say that too, because because
up here it's been I mean, Joe and I were
talking about this, like, you know, we don't we don't
post the podcast with video feed, but it's so sunny
out right now and at night it's like forty two
degrees and clear, and it's like it's pretty prime. It's like,
you know, it's pretty prime.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah no, and you dress nicer too, like yeah, anyways,
that's how I'm doing, like mentally and physically, I'm just
feeling terrible because of pollen. My number one mortal enemy.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I've decided villain villain villain number one.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Quick but yeah, no, hopefully to be over soon. Like
even Clariton's not working, which is fucking insane. But anyways,
besides that, I got to see Revenge of the Sith
this weekend for the twentieth anniversary, which is fucking awesome.
I mean, come on, it's it's top notch. The opening
is amazing to see on the big screen. If I

(07:30):
do want to be nitpicky though and kind of just
make fun of the opening just a little bit, so yeah, no,
of course that is epic, and that got a big
like pop from the crowd, you know, because like everyone
understands that not only is it just like epic to watch,
but like the CGI and visual effects of that, it
looks better than most things coming out today.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, and it also like, if you like really think
about it, this is like the last like the first
battle that you actually see that happens on Courson, And
it's also like the last one that happens before Coorison
becomes the capital of the Empire from the capital of
the Republic.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, that's crazy. The battle happens then. The only thing
where I'm like kind of nippicky and I just think
It's funny, is like when they're when they're in the
ship and they're trying to land it, and like the
ship like breaks in half, and even Anakin says it himself,
it's like, oh, like we lost something. I think starting

(08:34):
to I think the ability to fly this thing or
pilot this thing is relevant. Strap yourselves into you know,
not to worry.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
At least we're still flying half a ship.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, so they lose half the ship. They're not even
a flying anymore. They're just crashed landing into Courson right,
and sure enough they're lined up perfectly with the landing strip.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Another happy landing.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Another happy landing. I don't like, Yeah, no, this is incredible.
It's it's it's peak stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I mean, come on, it's the Force, man, The Force works.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
No, yeah, no, that the force. The Force did guide
them to the landing strip.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
You're probably right, best pilot in the galaxy.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah. Other than that, what is it? I think something
I really appreciated on the re release watch was just
trying to pay attention to things that are like going
on in the background, because there's a lot of stuff
like from one I knew about this Easter egg, but
I just kind of wanted to be on the lookout
for it this time. I think once that the opening

(09:35):
scene ends and they're flying like into the hangar bay
right before Anakin meets Padme in the in like the
bottom corner, you see the Millennium falcon fly in as well.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Ah, I forgot about that, but.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's flying into like a completely different hangar bay, right,
So I was like, oh, that's that's like fun to
like it's a little easter egg, you know, yeah, yeah,
yeah that what else? But no, I think my favorite
was like paying attention to the Clanker droids because in
the in the opening scene, uh, it's like when you
first meet General Grievous, like you hear them walking around

(10:09):
and like one of them goes like when when they're
just walking, they're just like they're like, excuse me, He's like,
WHOA watch it?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
WHOA watch it?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Hey exactly, and then they just do like they just
do a little random shit like that. And then uh,
when Grievous and Obi One fight on Udapal and uh,
Grievous starts like doing his like he starts extending all
of his arms with all the light tapers in his hands, right,
and then there's like a pair of clanker droids in

(10:41):
the background that are watching, but one of them like
nudges the other one because it's not paying attention. He's like,
he's like, hey, check the shit out. You see the
sing on and he like he like he like taps
them on the shows, He's like, hey, look, like, what
the fuck is this? Like these little details that are
just really funny to me.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't know, but you don't. You don't really notice
the first time you've watched these movies because you're so
like focused on like the intensity of the moments, right, Yeah,
Like you're like laser focused on that instead of like
what's happening after your four hundred and fifty six to
watch of.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, four hundred and fifty six. Yeah, But no, like
other things that were obviously really fun about this, I
didn't get any screenings where people would be like quoting forwards, yeah,
far Battle. I thought piece Freedom Justice. It wasn't crazy
like that. But there were like, you know, some crowd

(11:39):
reactions obviously, this is where the fun begins. That one
was a huge one. I've seen people like reacting to
the Dooku flip. I didn't realize that was like a
meme thing, but just like please but just doing the
one front flip. I guess it's like unnecessary, but it's
still it was still pretty funny, of course, like when

(11:59):
when Palpatine first says do it to Anakin. Oh my god,
everyone like clapped and cheered at that. Hello. They're also
very big crowd reaction, and my one of my favorite
ones during Order sixty six, I called this out on
the pod before or a couple of pods ago, when
it's like mosta skywalker there are too many of them,

(12:21):
what are we going to do?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And then he ignites his lightsaber and everyone started cheering.
It was the greatest thing of my life. I literally
laughed my ass off.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
It was so fun. Community one that I didn't expect
was like when Yoda and Palpatine are about to fight
and Yoda like force pushes the Imperial Guards. Everyone was like, yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean, but it's gonna especially moment like you don't see.
That's the beauty of not only Revenge of the Sith,
but like also Attack of the Clones is you don't
see combat from Yoda in anything else besides Clone War
and then those two movies, right.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Clone Wars is cooler to me, though. I like Clone
Wars way more than the fight with Palpatine. I think
it's mostly because it was like the first, the very
first time you see him in.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Combat, you know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Actually number two to the to the slaughter of young
Wings reaction that this was probably my favorite one. During
the scene when when you know, Padme gets to Musafar
and she's like doing her very best to like convince
Anakin to come back to the light side. She's like
crying her heart out going down to path that can't follow.

(13:38):
And then next thing, you know, Hayden Christensen turns his
head and looks into the ship, just super frustrated, and
you see this shot of Obi one just with the
most powerful stance that you don't ever seen, like legs spread,
like both his hands on his hips.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It is knuckles knuckles to hips like moving.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
It is probably the most insane. I'd say, this is
like a stance that's only meant for like Superman or
some shit.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Exactly like the most powerful hero of all time.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, and I'm just thinking like this entire time that
Padme is making her case, Obione's just standing there like
or a farming. Dude.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Oh my god, it's so true though. Let's her, Oh Anakin,
let her go. I see you spilled barbecue sauce on
my bathrobe.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh no way not not the MTV Movie Awards, like
one more thing and something else I found super funny
is like, what would you say that three Po is
mostly there for like comedic relief, and he actually never
like contributes anything at all, like anything.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Of value in Revenge of the Sith. I guess in
general the yes, except for one moment, and surprisingly that's
in the Rise of Skywalker.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that that's the one time.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah yeah, And but it's also has that comedic element
to his character, you know, but for the most part, Yes,
I would, I would, I would agree with That's like
he doesn't he does nothing, yeah, except translate.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
So in Revenge of the Sith, like Order sixty six
had just happened, like Padme is just watching from a distance,
like uh, and three Po comes over and he's like, oh, like,
you know, Anakin's at the Jedi temple, but I'm sure
he's okay, like don't worry, like trying to comfort her, right,
And then like you can clearly see that, like the

(15:42):
Jedi temple's on fire and it's smoky. I just feel
like he's like not doing anything to be helpful.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Like thanks for the consolation man. Things it's literally.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Things actually around quite terrible.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
They're looking quite grim.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm quite I'm quite sure Anakin's all right. It's like
lily a burning building.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
But that's it's so perfect for It's so perfect for
his character. Though.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah it's true, it's true. But yeah, that that was
That was my Rise of Skywalker or no, not Ris
of Skywalker, Revenge of the Sith experience. Truly nothing like it.
I can't imagine what like the the twenty fifth or
like thirtieth or whenever they decide to re released again.
Can't wait a.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Quick quick question then, So I'm just thinking back to
one of our older pods where we ranked all of
our Star Wars movies. Uh huh does it change your ranking?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Does it change it? Let me see, because you said
ESB was your number one, right? No, I actually said
a New Hope was my number one. I think it's
still the same, but how I have it was a
New Hope number one. Empire strikes back to Rogue one
three and Episodiode three is four, and it's it's still

(17:03):
the same.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, because I think I put uh
Rots as my number one.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, I think you and Brian had it at number one.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, and that's also interesting to think about. I mean,
maybe and Or is gonna change our ranking for Rogue one.
This is true, We'll see I can see about yeah,
forming a little bit, you know, I can see how
the whole thing of Diego Luna, we'll get into it.
But I can see how him saying it's going to

(17:34):
change your view of Rogue one, it's gonna be a
different movie is starting to shape.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Up for sure, for sure. Yeah. Like if I'm looking
at my letterbox list, and sometimes you can have shows,
like you can rank shows on letterbox, not just movies.
So I actually have like season one of and Or
at number three.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like in the Collective Star Wars just general, yeah, Collective
Star Wars, so it would go New Hope, Empire strikes
Back and or Rogue one then episode three, So technically
episode three will be five.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Live action shows.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's crazy because I mean I didn't think we would
actually get into this, like that wasn't more of a
spur of the moment question thought for me, But I
think i'd put Clone Wars in front of and or.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like the animated Clone Wars.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, like the show.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, I feel that, But not not to get too
too deep into that. But for sure, we'll we'll, we'll,
we'll re rank some stuff at something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, I think I think maybe maybe for episode one
fifty we'll have to do another ranking of sorts. That'll
be fun because we'll have some we'll.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Have some some new projects by that point.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, so let's uh, let's move on here,
let's talk. Let's go back to the world of ghosts Shima.
Uh So, we got a new trailer for or Ghost
of Yote comes out October second, twenty twenty five, later
this year. I'm pretty excited. Kind of got like some

(19:08):
Aria vibes from this from this teaser because it kind
of seems like the story feels like it's gonna be
like more of like a like revenge focused story. Not
to say that Ghost of Sushima wasn't that. It just
kind of feels like like where Ghost of Sushima felt
like he was trying to find the balance between like
being a samurai and like leaving that way behind like

(19:32):
this just straight up feels like not even thinking about
that really, Like it's just you are, like like you
do what you have to do, whether you're a samurai
or not.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know, like Ghost Tsushima was for sure like about
the fragility of honor than anything else, you know, like
that was the core thing about the game. But I
know exactly what you're saying, Like this is literally a vendetta.
Like she has a list of the five people of
the what is it, the the demon, the dragon, the wolf,

(20:02):
the spider, and then the Lord something something. It was
the fifth one, the one that like stabbed her in
the in the shoulder Lord Show. Hey.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Maybe I don't know Show Hey.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I mean probably, I mean it's probably a common
name in Japan, but.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It might be Show. Yeah, I don't, I don't know
something anyway, so te something like that. Yeah, yeah, but
I know, I mean, it looks like we also got
to look at at some of the gameplay two swords.
I think we already knew that dual wielding, but it
also looks like it you could also like you can
use weapons that are like in your environment as like

(20:40):
part of a combo because I saw like at one
point she like grabbed a spear that looked like it
was like in the ground.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
It's like a halbird almost like it was a spear,
but it had like a different tip at the end
stabs the guy in the chest and then like rips
it upwards. It.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
That could be fun, like I think, you know, because
if if they want to do something different with like gameplay,
you know, then like that that would be really sick.
And see what else happened.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
You can stick your wolf on people.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh yeah, that's right, that'll be cool. Didn't see much
of the gun. Maybe maybe we won't have to see
too much of that, you.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Know, Yeah, maybe that's like a late game thing, you know,
like because it's kind of like broken in the world
of like you know, hand to hand, sword of sorder
combat kind of thing like pose quarters combat. Like I
think a gun is a little a little bit cheap.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You know, yeah, a little too much. But yeah, so,
I don't know, I thought the trailer was sick. I
I didn't. I wasn't aware of the release date. But
I'm gonna start saving up now and I'll also probably
replay Ghost Tsushima again. But what about you. Any any
thoughts on the on the teaser, Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, like a like a couple of little tidbits other
than what like we've already touched on. So yeah, October,
that's coming a lot sooner than I think we that
we thought, like I thought this might be a twenty
twenty six kind of project, the like talking about weapons.
I love that you can there's a flail. Oh yeah,
there's a flail in there. Another just like little homage

(22:16):
to Ghostsushima. Like once the trailer goes to like the
actual gameplay, you have a scene where she's riding through
a field of purple flowers instead of where you get
into the opening like credit for Jidsaki riding through the
field of white flowers, like like the tall grass, the
ones that you can hide in in the first game.

(22:37):
The music. I love the mandolin, you know, like I
love the Japanese like orchestral music. I mean it just
it just makes you feel like you're right back in
the universe when you hear that music, you know, it's
it's amazing. Yeah. I think this is gonna be a
lot more violent, much more combat driven, much more like

(22:59):
mechannic gameplay kind of game rather than like more of
a story driven game where I think goes as Ashima
had that like story driven element to it. I just
with what they've shown with the trailer, it's like, Okay,
we know, like she's got her vendetta against those five people.
That's your mission for it. I'm sure there's gonna be
parts of the story where you're gonna you're gonna cry,

(23:20):
You're gonna, you know, cry in sadness. You're gonna cry
and enjoy, you know, and it'll be really emotional. But
I think they'll like crank that part of it back
a notch a little bit and then focus more on
like the combat stuff and just kind of the mechanics
of the game. And I'm super looking forward to it.
I like if it was out now, I'd already be

(23:40):
playing it.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
But yeah, So that that's all I really have for news.
Oh well, actually, no, eight, There's there's one more little tidbit,
just because we talked about Ryan Gosling Star Wars movie
a little bit, yeah, or a lot. The last part. Uh,
there's a rumor out there that, uh, it's gonna be
like another Lion and Cub type of adventure similar to

(24:02):
Mandalorian and Grogu. So supposedly the story is or like
a part of it is that it's based around this
fifteen year old and Ryan Gosling is their uncle. They're
pretty much like on the run and they're being chased
by like a couple of bounty hunters. That's just a rumor,
but it's like reported by a guy that kind of

(24:24):
like reports, you know, sometimes reliable stuff. But yeah, do
you have any thoughts on that? I'm kind of like,
it doesn't make me moregure something else. Yeah, let's see,
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's like something it's a story we've seen before, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's something Star Wars loves to do too. Yeah, I
got it with Mandoin Grogu or the Mandalorian period because
he's like looking after this kid and then Obi one
looking after Luke and Lea in his show. But yeah, no,
I mean I just feel like there they got to

(25:02):
do something else here.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, it's like the whole wild wild West like cowboy
thing in you know, the future in outer space, you
know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's that kind of trope. Nah,
I don't, I don't really have any I mean, that
doesn't like stimulate my brain to think of anything crazier
about the project, you know what I mean, Like it
doesn't provoke anything or whatever word you want to use.

(25:27):
But but but speaking of uncles and Star Wars, I mean,
I have one more little tidbit. Did you know that
the guy who plays Wedge is Ewan McGregor's uncle or
cousin Wedge and Wedge in the Yeah, in the original trilogy.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think I might have known that at Like I
heard or read about that at some point, but I
never like remembered it.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
No, I didn't know that until this week. Super random,
But I just like I didn't know that. I like,
I think it's his I think it's his uncle. I
think it's his mom's brother.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Let's see, I just googled it maternal uncle of Ewan McGregor.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Maternal Yeah, yep, yeah, It's just just like I don't know.
I guess the reason I bring it up is just
because the whole like Star Wars and like bringing people together,
like making us like fans of Star Wars and you know,
consequentially sometimes making us kind of a family because we
enjoy the content in the universe so much, and then

(26:35):
also like they're being like family members within the people
that bring us this sense of like community within Star Wars.
You know, it's kind of cool, like it's kind of
like full circle kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
You know, that is nice? Yeah, damn Ewan McGregor was
only six when let's see when he talks about seeing
his uncle Dennis laws and his wedge until he's in
Star Wars when he was six years.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Old, and I think he also said that, as far
as he can remember, Star Wars A New Hope was
the first movie that he ever saw in theaters.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, it's really cool. It's really really cool Star Wars rules.
Why else would we be here?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Alrighty, but okay, you ready to talks? Mandor?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I am ready, my friend.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Indoor season two, they're doing it three episodes a week
for the next four weeks, so I can't lie to you.
I'm I'm not sure if I like this format quite yet.
I think I would like it a lot more if
I was on the West Coast. So I'm getting these
episodes at six pm, not nine pm, not nine pm,
because I can realistically, I can only watch one of

(27:42):
them before I'm just like too exhausted to watch anymore
because I can't lie to you. I was falling asleep
during the first episode, not because I thought it was
boring or bad. I was just fucking exhausted. But no,
I mean I really really enjoyed the first three episodes.

(28:02):
I have like a few reservations here and there, but
not like I mean there's very little things like kind
of just nitpicking at it. But no, I really really
like them, especially like the way that we open the
first episode fucking Cassian just stealing this like like a
new version of a tie Fighter is kind of insane.

(28:25):
I love the tie Fighter itself too, because it has
like like chain gun like blasters that I feel like
Star Wars, Yeah, like a gatling gun. I'm like, what
the fuck is that? Well, it's just funny to me
because like I feel if Cassian stole this tie Fighter
in like season one, for example, this would be like
a whole like three episode arc that would be with

(28:50):
like the final episode of him actually stealing it, but
the previous two episodes would be like the preparation and
like what he has to go through to like actually
link up with these people within the filth facility, you know,
Like I feel like he has like all the espionage
stuff stuff down when.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
It comes to rogue Agent, kind of like thievery kind
of vibe to him, still like he hasn't yet totally
turned a new leaf yet.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Right, So yeah, he has all that stuff down, but
obviously being a pilot is not his strong suit, at
least not when it comes to a tie fighter. I
think tonally like the three episodes or well, no, episode
three takes a very dark turn, but I'd say the
first two episodes did feel tonally like lighter and a

(29:37):
little different from everything that we got in season one,
and I think it works. I really enjoyed it. What
what are your initial thoughts on these three episodes?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, no, I couldn't agree with that more. And then
just a little tidbit, it's a tie Avenger, tie of Vengers,
a tie of Venger. Yeah, so supposed to be a
precursor to Kyla renship. I mean, I like, yeah, it does.
But I think me, you and probably Brian thought this

(30:06):
was a tie defender like Thron's Thron's invention.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I mean, tie Defender looks like it's like three different
like wings on it.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right, Yeah, it is definitely like noticeably different for sure,
But yeah, no, this was I guess this form of
tie Fighter was only in legends, so it's never like
been cannon until now. But yeah, no, I think like
what I like most. But something that was difficult for

(30:37):
me watching the first three episodes was like, is it
just me? Or do I not understand what's going on
a lot of the time, you know what I mean?
Like I do.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know what I mean, But like it's done intentionally,
like you're kind of supposed to feel that way of like,
because I think what they're doing with the first three episodes,
which ironically is the same number three, they're telling three
different stories at the same time, right, and they're all
kind of like converging together as the as the season progresses.

(31:10):
At least that's how it feels. But no, I couldn't
have loved the opening sequence even more. I mean, you know,
not to get too r rated here, but I told
Joe and Brian the other day in the group chat, like, dude,
I just had like a tie fighter or orgasm with
this opening sense, like like the like the sounds of
the lasers, the sounds of it flying, you know, the
frickin' heavy heavy snow trooper just getting railed by the

(31:34):
fucking laser that blows a fucking hole through the fucking
door is like, oh my god, it's so satisfying. And
I also love how this like interaction between the I
don't even know what you would like categorize her role as,
but the one who's helping. She's sort of feel some

(31:56):
sort of assistant, but like it makes you think that
like cassion, and you can say this about Luthen as
well throughout the show a couple of times is that
they're kind of like celebrities now right, Like she's like
I can't even look at you in the eye and
we know who you are, Like no, no, you know,
we know you're a big deal and that kind of stuff.

(32:17):
I love that aspect to it, And just overall, like
all of the design, whether it's audio design, costume design,
set design, I mean it's just a ten out of
ten across the board.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Like especially it's really just firing on all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, it is, Like the Chandrilain costume design is amazing,
even just the tiny things of like man Mathma's walking
staff for the hike. The wedding hike is like so
bad ass. It's like so simple, but it's so like, dude,
this is beautiful. But I love it all. Like every
actor and actress is just in full form. I showed

(32:55):
my roommate rest In he's never seen and or Season one,
but he's seen like all of the Star Wars movies.
He hasn't watched any of like the like Clone Wars
or anything like that. But what got him Like he
doesn't even really know what's going on in the story,
but unless I explain a lot of it to him.
But when we get Krenick back and you have that
whole meeting about the Gorman project, even even Resten was like, dude,

(33:19):
this guy and he's talking about Ben Mendelssohn is like
exudes villainy.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, he's just like so good in the role.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's that like, oh he has he has like these
mannerisms and.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, exactly has that like propaganda political subterfuge vibe to him,
you know. And it's like it's just like every like
seeing him back on set and just him crushing the
performance so far at least is fantastic. Speaking of that, though,
I do have a question, Oh my god, what's his name.

(33:57):
He's the one who played the Master in Game of Throns.
I forget his character's name in Star Wars though, or
I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I don't know his name, but I know that he's
he's like one of the imperial officers.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Right, So he's ISB. Yeah, Didra's ISB because the one
thing I noticed, especially with the costume design is they
very intentionally use like the costumes to identify, like who's who.
Both of them are wearing the white the white coats, right,
so they're ISB. But Krenick isn't technically ISB. Right, No,

(34:33):
he is, Oh he is, like he so he's he
is a top official in ISB. Okay, so they're using
those white coats as ISB identification.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I think he's like maybe like a rank below
like Tarkan.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Darken because Dark's a governor.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, and Tarkan wears like I think he wears like
a dark gray.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, it's a gray where everyone else in the room
was wearing like a black. Not even talking about story,
just everything visually and audio wise is just so good,
especially the scene and talking about like contrasts and colors,
like when Cereal Cereal Didra and Cerel's mom. It's like

(35:14):
such a beautiful scene because everything's black and white except
for Dedra or uh Cyril's mom's orange yeah dress, And
it's just like right, like this is just like so
fun to look at, you.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Know, m and that that's just fun just because like
it shows you like like, oh, this isn't gonna go well,
like like they're obviously gonna have like like a post
like it's that was probably the worst like first meeting
of like, oh, like here's my partner, right, all you
do all the what's happening is they're just butting heads

(35:48):
the whole time. And then I love that they included
that scene where Cereal like just like he says he
goes goes off to do something, but he's really just
going into the room and he's just like face for
into his bed just like I think he can actually
asleep too. Yeah. That that was just really funny.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
And I think it's also funny too because it's like
not that far away from Mother's Day. Oh yeah, Like
she's just kind of the worst. Like you don't hate
her like Cyril's mom, you don't you don't like hate
her or anything, but it's like, oh my god, like.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
This is the worst possible scenario, like the worst possible
like meeting ever.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like Cyril is so embarrassed about his mom, but he's
also so easily embarrassable that it's just like this gut
wrenching kind of like cringe that you're like, oh my god,
this is so hard to watch, just like with the
small like family matters kind of thing, which is fantastic. Yeah,
I like, I will say the whole arc between like

(36:48):
the two parts of the gang that are on the
reveal it's Yavin, They're on Yavin. I think that was
a fantastic reveal, But that that, honestly, just like in
a talking about it in a general sense, that's my
only potentially nitpicky thing about the show so far.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Too.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
If they did not reveal that they were on Yeavin,
that story arc would be like I'd dropped the score
of the first three episodes by like a couple points.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Now. I think it's just because this group of rebels
they were just annoying. Oh well, if these guys are
part of the rebellion, like they're probably gonna get wiped
out like real fast, just because they were so like
disorganized and like just constantly fighting against each other. Yeah,
And I was like, these guys are fucking morons, and

(37:36):
they're gonna be like rebels potentially part of like like
part of the rebellion, you know, right, even though like
I thought they were like terrible, I think it's very
much done. Like I like maybe you're supposed to feel
that way, just that eventually, like because if you think
about the the state of the rebellion as it is

(37:57):
right now, they're all scattered all over, right, yeah, like
they're they're very much just like this group, Like there's
like little pockets of them everywhere, like like there's people
like Sagerera's group that think they're like doing the only
work that really matters there farly.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Rebel cells at this moment, right, yeah, because that's how
they describe it. In rebels.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
They're not like one unified, like they're not a unit yet, right,
Like there's no organization. So I kind of just feel
like they wanted to show us like how disorganized there
really is. Like eventually, hopefully by the end of the show,
there's gonna be like the one like big rousing moment
maybe with Cassian that brings them all together. And there's

(38:42):
one more thing I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up, which
you briefly mentioned, but I think I know what the
turning point is gonna be. But yeah, I no, I
love that they revealed that it's Yavin. I was like,
for some reason, when I saw Yavin and he was
dealing with rebels then like already on Yavin, that was like, Okay,

(39:03):
this kind of makes sense.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Now, yeah, no, it makes it makes a shit ton
of sense. And it it's doing exactly what in or
season one did. And it's like the small scale, like
this is how this is all working, whether it's the
rebellion or the empire.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Right, I imagine like a bulk of their I mean
they must have made like Yavin like the main base
for a reason, Like I imagine the the bulk of
their force is gonna come from there, right well.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
And like why was he meeting trying to meet Porco
on there in the first place. We don't know that
yet at this point, but I'm assuming there's gonna be
some like minor dialogue between Cassie and and maybe Luthan
or somebody else bix, I don't know which reminds me
Before I finished the thought this it's another like oh

(39:51):
my god, I can't believe Star Wars did this kind
of thing. But yeah, there's gonna be some dialogue that
reveals like why they were on Yavin or why they
were scouting Yavin in the first place, why they chose
it as a good base, that kind of thing. But yeah,
the just like if we're like, if we're still talking
just like general thoughts, I cannot believe that Star Wars
put a potential almost.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Rape scene, And yeah, that's pretty that's pretty intense, like
obviously like it's it's not meant to be something that
it's it's very like an intentional, like uncomfortable scene to watch,
Like you should feel that way. Like sometimes you could
like you could put this in like TV or movie
or whatever, and you could totally like miss the mark

(40:33):
and just have it completely.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Like yeah, why did I even watch?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Like it's almost like there's like, uh yeah, poor execution,
like like why did you do this in the first place?
You know, like why did you include this? So I
think one of the most important things that you need
if you are going to take take on in and
in like a seriously tough subject matter, like there has
to be like substantent substance and intent. I think, like,

(41:02):
you know, I think it was this was handled with care,
like pretty much what they're trying to portray is like
like and or is supposed to be, like well, not
supposed to be. It is the most like grounded Star
Wars thing we've gotten so far, right, like it's it's
supposed to be like like opposing factions, like this is
what's happening in war and this stuff happens, you know,

(41:25):
Like it was like it was just trying to portray
like the power dynamic and like how empire power abuse.
They even said like like bicks here is like technically
like an undocumented immigrant you have someone that's like in power.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
They even use those.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, exactly, you know. I mean it was really tough
to watch and like I don't know, yeah, no, I
was shocked that Star Wars went there too, but.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
How fucking like, I'm not gonna lie. While I was
watching this scene, I was like I almost yelled out loud,
like by myself in the room with like the volume crank.
I almost yelled like fucking killam, Like I was so
like heated watching this, But the satisfaction of watching her
take the hammer and just fucking whack the shit out

(42:16):
of him over the head was like that kind of
satisfaction that you don't really you don't get in Star
Wars outside of and Or. You know. Yeah, and this
is like my whole thing about and Or, and I've
tried to like very meticulously phrase it as best as
I can of Like why and Or is so enjoyable
is that this is showing us that even in a galaxy,

(42:40):
you know, a sci fi slash fantasy world, that this
is the biggest thing that we're dealing with. It's the
human condition. Like we're still dealing with the human condition
a lot of like the the mythos and the use
of the force, like that's not here. It's literally just
like very related things that are It's not just like

(43:02):
morals that you can buy off of, right, or that
you can buy or use. It's like like good versus
evil kind of thing. This is like these things happen
in our day to day life, and no matter where
we are, as long as humans exist, these things are
gonna keep happening kind of thing, right.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say like I'm like
happy they did or whatever. It's just like, no, not
at all, not at all. It's intense.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, yeah, nor am I saying I'm happy that they
did that. It was, but it was definitely the most
unexpected thing that they had done with the show so far,
one hundred percent. And I think it's even more fucked
up too, because Bix just like doesn't catch a fucking
break because even in season one she was fucking tortured.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
They even showed that in episode one that she's still
feeling like like the PTS after effect. Yeah, yeah, the
after effects of whatever that torture device was.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, terrible stuff. Technically, in the original trilogy, there was
like the threat of torture where you have the the
Probe droid or not the Probe droid, but like the
like the big sphere that has like the fucking syringe
and the needle on it. Yeah, that was going on to.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Some type of serum.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, yeah, like a truth serum or something.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Heavy heavy violence like that. I mean that's probably the
most like intense, like heavy subject that they've ever tackled.
But like this kind of stuff isn't like absent from
from Star Wars, you know, And I feel like that
was like one of the big complaints was that, like, oh,
you never need to portray that in Star Wars, like
it never has, never will be. And then you have
a scene with Jaba where he dresses up laying like

(44:41):
a in a chain bikini and has like it she's
literally round her neck like I don't I don't want
to drop his name, but he went one of the
more popular like Star Wars folks out here like tried
tweeting out uh, like oh, this stuff doesn't belong in
Star Wars, like like Darth Vader wouldn't have gone for this,
and like he would have called it out immediately. I'm like, dude,

(45:04):
Darth Vader and Anakin is completely irrelevant to this scenario, Like.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
This is like has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, So I was like, god, damn, that is the
most like maybe like out of touch is what I'm
looking for. But like if you're thinking of Vader or
Anakin watching this and like how he would feel about it,
like like it's a real life opinion, you know, it's
that's like I don't know, it's.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Like single track minded kind of thing. But but again,
that's just I think that's the nature of when you
have this large of a franchise with this big of
an audience, is that people are gonna want to see
it the way that they want to see it, and
when they don't see it the way they want to
see it, they're gonna like use that as a complaint
to be like try to reshape the way that the

(45:54):
story's being told, but it's not gonna happen. And then, yeah,
consequentially they're losing out. And so I feel like I
say this every time we pot is like you're just
losing out on what's in front of you, right, Like
you're not appreciating the thing that you have. And I
mean that's just kind of a memo for life, right
It's like, don't try to change the things that you

(46:16):
can't change kind of thing. But yeah, man, I mean
to like, you know, to pivot a little bit because
I mean, like I feel like this is a you know,
it's a dark, darker subject. But yeah, like I mean,
I think my my least favorite part, even though it's
a great moment, is I cried simultaneously for sadness and

(46:40):
joy in literally like thirty seconds of a scene. Okay,
this part I love too. So when Cassian finally escapes
because they were playing fucking rock paper scissors on so
that's what because that's they were literally like like whoever
they is going to be the ruler right like that,
like that's going to be the boss of this ragaban

(47:02):
gang of yeah, yeah, like this ragtag group. So like
that's how Cassie escapes. Well, he also escaped because he
was fucking smart and he used the element of surprise
too to get away. But when he gets back to
I Mina Row is the capital of the planet. I
don't remember the name of the planet, but when he

(47:25):
enters the atmosphere, he sees a fucking ISD I'm pretty
sure it's an ISD, yeah, like hovering over and he's like,
I could go full fucking what's his name, Oscar Isaac
from fucking you know, the sequel trilogy, and just like
I can take this ship down right now.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
But he's like.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
You can like feel it on his face, Like you're like,
it's like, no, man, he just fucking died bombs into
the fucking like closer to the planet's surface, and so
that feeling of him being back, like you're like, oh
my god, we're fucking back, baby, Like you're kind of
like wanting to cry and joy. But then like literally
within maybe two or three minutes, you watch Brasso die

(48:09):
and then now you're crying because fucking Brasso died.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Dude, I couldn't believe it he but he died like
he died low key off screen, Like they didn't even
show him get shot, which getting shot at, yeah, so
I'm getting gets shot at, but like when Casking finds him,
he's already down. I'm like, give me the death.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Right, Like I feel like it should be a little
bit more impactful of a of a of a death right.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Because no, because he had such a big moment in
the in the season one finale, you know, like ringing
the group through through ferycks and then smacking one of
the Imperial officers with.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
The hammer that rings the best.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
That Yeah, no with the Marva stone.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh right right right right right right right right right yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Not not really a critique or even a nipick. I'm
just like, come on, that that's my guy. Should give
him better send off.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
If he's dead. I mean I think there's like a
very small chance that he's not. There's no reason that
we've been given to believe that he isn't dead. Cassian
was literally like just shaking his head at Bis, like no,
we need to fucking go, like we need to go.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
And the fucking left B two emo behind Dude, I
can't believe.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Come on, dude, Cassian, he's like the antithesis to Chopper,
and it's it's amazing, like he has no like combat skills.
He's not like heroic by any means. He's just like
a sad, fucking utility droid that barely works, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
And Chopper is a fucking menace. I can't believe they're
giving him a fucking rifle in the Soka Dude, Fucking
Chopper Morgan Chopper the Winter Soldier, Dude, damn.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
A real thunderbolt. No, And and I feel like we
haven't touched a lot on like the Chandrilline scenes. I
I think so my like the point that I was
making earlier about like kind of confused and not necessarily
know what's going on a lot of the time. I
think the most confusing scenes in the show are the

(50:23):
interactions between like Luthen Scolden, the other dude with the
like perfectly white hair that Mathma take Homa, like all.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Remember the name just because it's it's cool to say,
no that it is, and.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's kind of hard to know, like what's going on there?
Because it's like, why is mon Mathma so like disturbed
and like shaken, Like why is she so stressed? Like
why does she just get fucking blasted by all the
chandrillin vodka shots like Red Bull vodkas or whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I think? Okay, So I think I have an answer
for you, because I wouldn't say it's confusing, but it
is like pretty tricky to follow, for sure. Yeah, just
everything about her her quote unquote home life stuff, even
from season one. I feel like I've had trouble following.
But from what I understand here is that like they
have been building up to like this wedding even from

(51:23):
season one.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Right, so's the deal, like I'll fund you as long
as your daughter marries my son kind of thing, right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Or like he didn't even ask for like I think
the actual wording was like, oh, I'm not asking for
like an official betrothal, Like I just want just like
a meeting is like, yeah, meeting between the two and
we'll just see where it goes, and sure enough they
get married. But no, that's not that's not take Holma's son.
That's like someone else's.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's the older guy who brings in the the like
one of twelve statues, right, that's him, Yeah, the older guy. Okay, oh, okay, okay, that.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I think Luthen acquired, right.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, because that was the whole speech of like Luthen
gave him the information about like where this could be
and then it turned into an adventure and like yeah,
because that's Luthen's like mask essentially, is that he's a
collector of you.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Know, rare items, rare, right, that's what relics because of
his shop back on course on Yeah, I think where
she is like getting caught up is that she's trying
to juggle like two different lives just like facade at
home and she's running like a full on rebellion or

(52:38):
like trying to finance a full on rebellion with Tay.
I think part of it, like towards the end, she's
starting to regret like what she did. Like like I
think part of it too is like her relationship with
her daughter isn't great. That was a brutal scene, Like
she was like, hey, like you if you don't want
to do this, you don't have to. But like she's
just like now I'm getting married.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Like the whole like my mom was drunk when I
got married, and then she's like, you don't have to
do this, and then the daughter's like I wish you
were drunk, Like god damn, like that, why why the spitefulness?
Like like what what's your motive here? Like you know,
like why you were just crying about not having your
handheld and now you're doing this Like.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
No, but that that's like something they established like in
season one as well, is that like man is to
me to the way I see is that like mon
is always gone because of politics, right, Yeah, and yeah,
I remember I remember a specific scene in season one
where like her daughter straight up says like like Man

(53:43):
is trying to get her daughter to get ready to
go somewhere, and then her daughter is like, no, you
don't have to do this to keep up appearances to
like the public, you know, like you don't have to
put up this like this face, this facade or whatever. Yeah,
that's mostly because, like you know, they don't have an
established relationship. So yeah, I think it's like all of
that is just coming and crashing down on.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
So it's more of like her own internal struggle struggle
rather than it being like interactions that she's having throughout
the first three episodes, she's more of just like becoming
paranoid than anything else.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, but I mean, like everything that she's dealing with though,
to me kind of seems like that's why she's kind
of crashing out, because it's a lot to deal with
that once.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, it's a lot of like mental all different kinds
of energy to be able to do all of this simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
But what I really like about this too, about all
the how do you say chandrillion things.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Uh, Chandrillaine, Chondrillin, Yeah, Chandrillin.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Chondrilline like customs or whatever. I like that they're like
just posing this storyline. Like you said, there's like three
storylines running, right, there's this one and then they just
suppose it like it and they were doing this like
back and forth in the final fifteen minutes of episode three,
is them partying just opposed with like Cassie and Picks
and Brasso actually like on the ground fighting while they're

(55:07):
off like having a.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Party party, you know, yeah, even though there ain't no
party in mon Mathma's head too. So it's like this
tried dynamic of like so many different intense emotions within
the characters that you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, I know it's good stuff. It's it's it's good writing.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I think, Yeah, No, I think Tony Gilroy's done an
amazing job. But like I think, I think we're right
back where we left off, Like the tone is so
far like building up to be better than season one.
I think that, like I'm having a hard time predicting
what's actually gonna happen, like how we're actually gonna lead

(55:46):
up to Rogue one. I mean, obviously we have nine
more episodes, so it's like, I don't think any of
us are in a position to really accurately predict what's
gonna happen. I think, like for me so far, it's
like a four and a half, like four point seventy
five or four point seven five out of five. I
wouldn't change anything about the show so far. I wouldn't

(56:07):
change anything.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Oh yeah, I wouldn't change anything either. One more point
I do want to get back to, though, is I
think the third storyline that we didn't touch on too
much was h Krenick talking to the ISB officers about
Gorman m M so. I think I briefly brought it
up earlier, like what the turning point is going to
be for the show, for like the rebels to actually

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all come in together. I think this is something that's
like talked about in a book somewhere. I'm not sure
exactly what it is, but essentially what's going on at
Gorman there's a resource there that Krenick wants to mine
for the Death Star, right. I forget what the name
of it is, but I think.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's cal Kite. Cal Kite.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I think cal Kite. Yeah, So I don't know if
this has to do with like, I don't know what
it's for in the It's just for the Death Start.
That's what I know. They want to mine this re
source from the planet, and I think they need to
mine as much of it as they can. Pretty Much
what they said would happen is that if they mind

(57:09):
too much of this resource, essentially what's gonna happen to
the planet is that it's gonna it's gonna collapse.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Like literally, not like economically, like physically, the planet.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Will collapse exactly if they mind too Yeah, if they
mind too much of this thing. And so going back
to what you and like Restaurant were talked about earlier,
is like, oh, like Ben Mendelssohn, does this so well,
he's like such an evil guy, and like the way
he portrays all that stuff is like he literally like
does it to where he he seems insane, Like he's

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he's talking about it so calmly and so casually, like
he's he's talking about like, oh, like well if they're
if they're not gonna leave like peacefully, then we'll like
do it forcefully, right, yeah, kicking all these people off
the planet.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
We'll stage an insurgency or like whatever we need to do.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And he just says all that stuff like, oh, you're
about to like uproot all these people out of their
homes just that you can mine your ship for the
death Star. Really evil stuff, right, and up. I mean
like it's kind of fucked up. It's kind of.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Fucked up, like almost similar to like us, like and
not to get too dark or political, but it's like
us mining oil in other countries.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
It's kind of the same thing. That's what they're trying,
I'm trying. I think I'm pretty sure that's what they're getting.
So yeah, I know this eventually leads up to again,
I don't know which book this is from, but it's
called The Gorman Massacre. I think there was like a
something about a protest that happens on Gorman and pretty
much like they're peaceful protesters and stormtroopers just light up
the place.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
So that is the scene that we got a sneak
peak of. Then I think, so, yeah, I think you
damn And I think.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
That that'll be like the final like match that like
that like sparks up their ability.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Lets the world know like Okay, we need to like back,
we need the Empire to go away, like yeah, this
ain't good or anybody except for the Empire, and even
people within the Empire themselves are somewhat slaves or instruments
within you know, destruction essentially.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
And yeah, and it just reminds me of like you
brought this up to the conversation that Cassie had in
the first episode with that with that assistant or whatever,
when she like one of the questions that kind of
sat with me was like like if I die, how
I know it was worth it? Yes, Like when she's
talking about like joining them real and I'm like, damn,
that's like it's heavy, And then I forget how he

(59:37):
replies to it, but he's just like, you know, eventually,
like you'll make it out of here and just like
hold on to that and you know, to help keep
it going some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
It's like it's a like thematically or like you will
live to see the sunrise another day kind of thing.
M h.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
This incredible writing. Yeah, And I know I was saying
like I think I was saying this with Daredevil. I
was like, oh, I can't give a show more more
than a four and five when I first started it,
but now there's like a like a four and a
half for me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
It's it's it's very hard. You'd have to look really
hard to find something to not give it, like an
a minus rating kind of thing. And even smaller things
like did you see the like potentially plowcun easter egg.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Oh yeah, it was one of the things that it
was one of the relics that's in Luten's shop.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And there was a Temple Guard mask. Well that was
in season one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah that wasn't season one. I just rewatched season one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I was rewatching some of season one too.
That was in season one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
And the star Killer armor is always just staring everyone
in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
It's so good. It's so fucking badass. And speaking of
the shop too. Like one of my last kind of
final just smaller, you know, less substantial things about the
show is that I just love the way that they
communicate over the radio because they're always using this kind

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of like more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Social lentons and turning knobs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
That that part, yeah, like the actual physical thing of
it is amazing. But the way that they actually the
way they actually speak. They're always speaking in terms of
like their customers through the shop or like it's business
related through the shop. But Cassie and Luthen and then
I forget her name, like Luthen's like sidekick I guess

(01:01:30):
you could use. They communicate through through the radio is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
No, it's very uh, very secret, top secret kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Very spionage type stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
The Eagle. The Eagle has landed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, man, really enjoying the show, really enjoyed. I think
that I don't think the Gorman Masca will happen this week,
but I think it will happen, like maybe in two weeks.
I can see that happening. Just that like sets in
in the final three episodes, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Know, seven through nine kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
So yeah, see, and then and then ten through twelve
will just be off the walls.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah, it's it's like I feel like it's gonna be
another one of those like the penultimate is kind of
the best episode because we already know like how the
show's gonna end, because we know that it goes right
into Rogue one. Yeah, it's just going to be. The
thing that Delete Diego Luna said is like we're it's
just going to change the way that we look at

(01:02:28):
the like not just Rogue one, but forward from this
point in the timeline.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So part of those earlier reactions that I mentioned in
the episode. Prior to this, most of the consensus was
that this first arc, the one that we just watched,
is actually like the weakest one of all of them,
but they they would caveat that with like it is
the weakest one even though this arc is still really good.

(01:02:55):
I'm just excited because that just means like hopefully it
just better, just like an up shot, upward projection of
like awesome stuff, you know, and it is, and I
could I could see I could see that where they're
coming from with like the weakest stuff, like if we
only got like episodes one and two, like imagine if
we never got episode three or we're different, or or
if we were getting like one episode a week, like

(01:03:16):
we only got like episode one, I'd kind of be like, okay,
or even like with episode two, I'd be like, all right,
what's happening here? You know? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Well, and then the other interesting thing too, is that
so we are technically it is going to be a
year jump between the three episode chunks, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
That's what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
What I also find interesting though, is that Cassian or
Cassian I'm too immersed here Diego Luna said, Yes, this
is what like, this is leading directly up to Rogue one.
But what it's even more interesting is that in the
first episode it says four years before the Battle of Yavon,
but Rogue one wasn't in the same year of the
Battle of Yavn.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Okay, so Rogue one takes place zero Bby, so is
the same here?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Okay, never mind. Then, no, that doesn't make sense though,
because Rogue one literally ends as Vader's boarding Leya's ship.
Yeah okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're they're both in zero
Bby So yeah it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Okay, okay, so the timeline, so it does add up.
I was just doing math, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah, quick math, quick math, quick math. That's all I have.
Anything else from.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
You, that's all I got. Man, I a lot more
to break down than I originally thought. But yeah, every
episode was like had me conclude to the screen, you know, saying,
other than texting you guys literally real time as I'm
watching the show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, that's it for me as well. Folks, thank you
so much for listening. Next time you hear from us,
will be probably talking about the next few chunks of
van Or season two, so stay tuned for that. Be
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(01:04:58):
and until episode thirty nine, and we'll catch you guys
next time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
So peace, It's Acron. The team Up.