‘The Acolyte’ Episode 1 & 2 Reactions, Anakin Blows Up Death Star, and Fires in Space

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(00:15):
What up, folks, and welcometo the Kypriculture Episode one nine with myself,
Joe Deepak, and t Bone Spimoni. Today, after a little hiatus,
we are back talking some Star Wars, specifically the new Disney Plus series
The Acolyte. It's been a minute. I also feel like it's just been
a minute since we got some newStar Wars content. I mean, I

(00:36):
know, we had the Bad Batchseason three that just ended. Aaron would
actually, let's let's talk about thisreal quick. Just a Bad Batch finale.
The show's over, Like, Iknow we briefly talked about it,
but what were your thoughts on theBad Batch series finale? Yeah? Interesting?
So I at first, when Ifirst just like just finished the finale,

(00:58):
I was like, wow, Iwas expecting something more dark, a
more grim ending to the show.But then I started like kind of processing
it a little bit and then kindof bantered back and forth with you and
I don't remember if Brian had anycomments on it, but then I kind
of realized, like, Okay,Omega joining the Rebellion actually feels pretty right.

(01:22):
And nobody really died. I mean, Crossair lost his fucking hand,
just another another Star Wars character.Losing their hand. You know, that's
we're losing limbs in Star Wars.It's just it's a classic and it's like
poetry at rhymes exactly. But yeah, I at first I wasn't that fond
of it. The thing that mademe the most sad about the ending of

(01:46):
The Bad Batch itself is that theending of this season of the Bad Batch,
of the Bad Batch in general iskind of like Filony's sign off on
Clone Wars arc arcs and storytelling andgeneral. I definitely had maybe a physical
tier, but definitely a couple ofmental tiers once I I read some posts.

(02:06):
I don't know if it's on Instagramor where it was, but I
didn't even think about it like that. But it's true, like the man
who got being goaded and brought outClone Wars a long time ago, some
of his big work just coming toan end is sad but beautiful at the
same time. Well, yeah,you never know, though, like we're
still getting like you know this,this type of animated content with I'm sure

(02:30):
they're gonna make new like we justhad Tales of the Empire, which was
which was okay. I don't thinkthey're gonna be done with this type of
animated Star Wars content quite yet,but you know the Clone Wars Yeah,
yeah, yeah, no, thatthat is kind of kind of bittersweet.
No, No, I more orless felt the same about the finale.

(02:50):
It's uh, I think the showas a whole, I'm okay with it.
I don't, like, you know, I'm not the biggest fan,
i'd say, but I definitely don'tthink it's like, it's definitely worth watching,
you know, especially if you likethis era of Star Wars. But
no, it definitely makes sense whereshe ended up. And then, like
I think one of the sad thingsfor me was just seeing well not sad,

(03:12):
but bittersweet that these clones get to, you know, live out their
days, you know what I mean, and just like be at peace on
this island. Like the whole allof the Clone Force ninety nine is just
kind of like the war is overfor them, you know, And that
that's kind of like that's like thefinal message that the show sends off,
you know, Like Omega says thatto Hunter as she leaves, like you

(03:34):
know, it's not it's not yourfight anymore, like and I need to,
you know, join the rebellion andstuff. Like that, you know
what I mean. So definitely definitelya nice ending to their journey. Yeah,
but and let's let's also be real, just real quick. Venturess was
badass. Ventres was Oh yeah,definitely her, her little, her little

(03:55):
episode. For sure. I'm surprisedthey didn't like dive to too much more.
Well, I guess I'm not surprised. It makes sense that they didn't
like dive further into you know,her being forth sensitive. Yeah, no,
goodbye to the bad match, Iguess as a show. Let's see
what else. So New Star Warscontent talking to Acolyte. But before we

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get into that, oh yeah,please follow us on our socials. We
have We're on Twitter, Instagram,TikTok, lighter box, we have it
all. But before we get intothe Acolyte, Aaron, how's it going
surviving man? Surviving in a goodway. We're taking the day by day.
Work's definitely been picking up for thesummertime. I don't know, you

(04:39):
know how many people know, butI like, I do work at an
animal emergency hospital now, so it'slike very season dependent, but tis the
season for emergencies the summertime is,and definitely working for the wage life at
home has been good. Wait on, can I stop you real quick?
Are you? Are you now workingat someplace all else other than like after

(05:01):
Emerald? No, no, no, no no, no, same place,
the same place. Okay, okay, just checking out, like,
wait a minute, did you getanother job elsewhere? No? No,
no, I guess I just describedit a little bit differently this time around.
Okay, gotcha, got you,got you just making share, but
yeah, other than that, justtrying to keep the homestead, you know,
up and running. Freaking man,when summer summertime comes around in Seattle

(05:26):
and you're like responsible for like thethe flora around your your property kind of
a pain in the ass. Sometimesshit just grass grows like crazy. And
our house is also like part ofthe home homeowners Association, so like there's
literally people that drive around and makesure your property is like status quo in
terms of like esthetic acceptability. Iguess so like and if you don't keep

(05:51):
it up, you know, upup to standards, like, you'll get
fined. And it's is what itis, like, I don't I don't
mind doing your work. It's justyou know, when somebody's constantly bugging you
about it, it's a little.It's a little annoying. But other than
that, my latest and greatest adventureis I finally, after almost thirty one

(06:14):
years of my life, have gotteninto Magic the Gathering, and it's an
adventure. It's so fun. Allaspects of magic are so fun. I
think the most part is and anynineties baby could probably agree with this.
If you ever got into Pokemon,is like opening a fresh pack of Pokemon
cards and just hoping you get somethingsick. Just like that feeling of like,

(06:38):
oh I get something shining out ofthis is so addicting. And on
top of that, just the waythe game works and the lore and the
universe. It's I didn't think thatthis would be something that was up my
alley back when I was a teenager, Like I always kind of thought Magic
the Gathering was kind of like mayanerd, like Dungeon and Dragons kind of

(06:59):
level, And now I'd probably likeDungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons,
but it's so fun. I highlyencourage anybody who's listening right now that like
is interested in playing it to justdownload a MPTG arena on your phone or
your computer whatever try it out,or if you do play already and you
want you want to link up andplay, like, let's let's play.
Man. That's the best part aboutMagic is it is about community, like

(07:21):
it is not. It's about thegathering, as a lot of famous like
MTG YouTuber's podcasters say, it's like, this is the gathering. You know,
it's a great time and I'm lovingit, definitely burning a couple holes
in my wallet. In my pocket, that's just the nature of the game.

(07:41):
And in a trading card game,and it is the oldest trading card
game ever made. No. Iremember like being like nine or ten years
old and seeing one of my brothersjust like just have just decks of Magic
cards just everywhere. And I alwaysthought the cards look cool, but I
never like tried playing the game,right, So so it mustn't like the

(08:03):
fact that it's been around for aslong as it has and has that type
of community is I think that's prettyfun. So is it possible to play
like virtually yeah, MTG Arena youcan. You can download your phone,
your laptop, your computer, whatever, and they have like a tutorial they
introduce you how to play the game, the basics of the game. They

(08:24):
run you through the whole basic processof how to get started. But obviously
it's more fun if he can playlike in person because you have your own
physical cards and shit obviously, right, yes, and you have the you
have the actual in person social experiencewith it, and also the apps or

(08:45):
like the virtual versions of it.They kind of like tell you what cards
you can play at what time,So it kind of takes the critical thinking
ap element out of it a littlebit. If you're learning how to play,
that's a good thing. It's it'smeant to be that way. But
yeah, I highly encourage anyone,even you, Joe. I know,
I know you're not like huge onthese types of games, but you know,

(09:09):
if you play a round or two, a game or two, he
might might might change your mind alittle bit. No, the thing about
me with you guys, and I'vetold you guys this before, I think
it's usually because whenever I try tolearn new games that you guys are into,
like board games and card games andshit, we're usually like, you
know, under the influence of alcohol, and I'm not learning a single thing

(09:30):
of how to play when you guysare teaching. Like brains does not the
brain does not compute around trying tolearn a new card game or board games.
So sometimes I do, but like, yeah, no, magic seems
a little more complex than like theother games you guys are trying to teach
me. But I'll definitely watch andgive it a go the next time I

(09:52):
see you when person or something.Yeah, if this is any credit to
what you're saying or I guess argumentand so what you're saying, because I
don't know if anybody, if youknew this, maybe I know magic people
know this. But post Malone islike a huge Magic the Gathering player,
and he's on like YouTube videos likefull Games of Magic two hours long.

(10:13):
This motherfucker's literally just like soaking joints, just like getting fucked up, and
it's like still an amazing player.I mean, he also has really expensive
cards, which is kind of anadvantage. But I feel like if post
Malone can get fucked up and playMagic Gathering, like anybody can do it,
because it's like a little mechanic herein there, that's that's fine,
Like we're here, that's it.That's all. But I hear you,

(10:37):
though, I hear you. Ihear you, Like if I learned something
under the influence, I'm never gonnaremember it's Ober. No. Even even
like some of the simplest games,I have trouble picking up. It's like,
there there's like some monopoly card gamethat I don't remember what it's called.
Is it Monopoly Go? I thinkit's Monopoly Go. Yeah, yeah,
I remember, Like I I caughton for a little bit, but

(11:00):
then I'd like, I don't rememberany of the rules anymore. Like you
don't have to reteach me the game. You have that next beer and you're
like, wait, how do Iplay this game again? I catched completely
forgotten, or or it's like orit's like beer Fest, where like there's
like a scene in beer Fest wherethey got like plastered and they were led
to like the location of like thebeer Fest event, and then when they
were sober, they're like, oh, where the fuck is it? They're

(11:24):
like, oh, wait, maybeif we drink and get drunk again,
we'll remember how to get there.Is a prime explanation. What a crazy
movie. Great movie, hilarious whenyou're younger, but I rewatched it as
a doll. I'm like, damn, this shit is rough. Same with
a lot of comedy movies that cameout when we were younger. Yeah.
Yeah, well, let's see.On my end, I'm still i'd say

(11:48):
I'm pretty much adjusted to living inNew York City. I have my habits,
I have my routine. I knowhow to get around. Because the
biggest piece of news for me isjust I just got promoted at work.
A pay bump is obviously really nice, but I'm just excited to work with
with a new group of people,new team, and then I'll be able

(12:09):
to you know, meet more people. I guess, like right now,
like I'm pretty much just at thecity on how to get around and like
what I want to explore and allthat stuff. So at this point it's
just like making new friends, butstill seeing like familiar faces here and there,
still making time to see like,you know, watch movies, watch
good stuff. I've seen a tonlately. A recent franchise I just tried

(12:31):
getting into is Planet of the Apesbecause there's a new Planet of the Apes
movie out right now, and ohno, I'm sorry, I had to
just throw it in there. Noway, that's so good, dude,
No, what threw me off?Cause so that that's from that that oh

(12:54):
no, clip is from War forthe Planet of the Apes. I thought
it was a clip for the newmovie, and so when I was like
rewatching, well, I watched soit goes Rise, Rise to the planety
y Apes, uh donn of theplanet Apes, and War for the Planet
Yapes. So I definitely seen Rise. That's one with like James Franco.
And then I'm pretty sure I've watchedDawn, like maybe once or twice,

(13:16):
but I barely remembered it. Andthen I don't think I've ever seen War,
and so I'm rewatching it. Itcuts to that point and I had
to pause the movie and just hadto take a quick breather because I was
like losing my shit. I waslike, no fucking way, dude.
And people were like tweeting about hisname is bad Ape in the movie,

(13:37):
and uh, I literally just thoughtpeople were taking pictures of this of this
Ape because he he like walks aroundwearing like a like a puffy vess like
a beanie and stuff, and everyone'sjust tweeting pictures of him like oh,
like this guy's he's really got thatshit on, or like look at look
how properly he looks. Realized thatlike folks are like, damn, the

(14:03):
fit is really fitting on this monkeyso like to my like, it was
a very pleasant surprise to see that, you know, just rewatching War for
the Planety Apes Is is pretty sick. But no War because Don and War
are directed by Matt Reeves, whodirected The Batman, So those are like

(14:26):
actually like really really well made,really well done. War for the Planety
Apes is like it's like a perfectcap off to Caesar's story. It's a
war movie, which is really sick. Whatdy, Harrelson's a nutcase in that.
But that being said, King tothe Planty Apes, I think it's
a good like revisit to the franchise. I think it's a little too long,

(14:46):
but still solid. Nonetheless, justa couple more movies that I've seen
recently. Challengers fucking amazing. That'sthat's the tennis movie with Zendia Killers soundtrack
that it's it's my second favorite movieof the year. Just just a nasty
like love triangle. It's just awesome. And then hit Man that actually just
hit theaters or not theaters but Netflixthis past weekend. Just an awesome comedy.

(15:11):
Don't go into it like it's it'scalled hit Man, but don't go
into it thinking that like you're gonnawatch like Glenn Powell like killing people,
because that's not what it is.He is just like a he's essentially like
an undercover guy acting as a hitman to get like people to admit to
their crimes. They're trying not likehire him and get them to a bit

(15:31):
like, yeah, I want youto kill this person for me so that
the police can arrest them. There'sno like actual like he's not a hit
man like doing hits or whatever.But it's really hilarious. They it's almost
like a maybe slight swore, butthey kind of have like a Bonnie and
Clyde thing going here. But yeah, no, hit man's a lot of
fun. And that's pretty much it, like, you know, just watching

(15:52):
stuff, living life in New York. But anyways, before we move on,
before we start talking to the actlite, let's just take a quick
break for some ads, all right, and we're back. So, first
two episodes of The of the AcolyteNewest Star Wars show on Disney Plus stars
mendel Stenberg, Daphne Keene, Carrieon Moss, amongst other folks. Show

(16:17):
and runner is Leslie Headland. Butcool thing about this show was I actually
got to go to a fan eventfor this. It was the It was
one of the first early screening thingsthat I've ever been to. And it
wasn't because like you know, Iwasn't you know, quote unquote invited to
it for like this press screening orwhatever. I was just able to get
like like like early reserved tickets,like you just show up, like you

(16:41):
sign up and they're free, andthen it's like it's first come to first
serve, Like you show up tothe theater and if like either get in
or you don't, and you know, they they filled the theater to capacity.
It was awesome though, because Ithe screening started at seven, and
then I was held up at workuntil like maybe six o'clock. Luckily,

(17:02):
the theater was maybe like a tenor fifteen minute walk from me, so
I just went straight there and theline was fucking long, but it was.
It was pretty sick, just becausejust to see like so many people
decked out, like people were costplayingthere, people just decked out in like
all sorts of Star Wars merch,Like there was this guy dressed in a
pretty cool Mandalorian suit. But no, so like like this line, I

(17:25):
kid you not, it was solong that it wrapped around the side of
the building, and at this pointI was just feeling like, oh fuck,
like I should have gotten here earlier, like I should have left work
earlier, like when I was actuallysupposed to be off, but you know,
I had to take care of somethings. But sure enough, I
was like pretty lucky. Even thoughthe line like pretty much wrapped around the
building, like from from one blockto another, I was able to get

(17:45):
in and it was pretty sweet.I met someone there, another Star Wars
fan. Shout out to Katrina.She read like all of the she's pretty
much like up to date on allthe High Republic books, so she knew
who. I think. It's Venestra, the Green Jedi Master. So to
my understanding, what she said wasthat Venestra's like a like a Padwan in

(18:07):
the book still and in the Aclteshe's very much like an older like she's
a master now. So that wasjust cool to just get a little bit
of context from that PHANOMV. Itwas awesome. You know, they're giving
out free drinks, free popcorn.They had like this acolyte like background standy
thing that maybe I should have takena picture in front of, but I
just I just didn't do it.They screened the first two episodes. It

(18:29):
was in Dolby, which was prettysick. What else got a couple of
acolyte posters. It's not like alike a crazy poster. It's just like
the thing that you know, ifyou look at the Star Wars page,
it's like the main poster that hasall the characters on it, which is
pretty tight. And yeah, Iknow, just being able to watch like
new, brand new Star Wars contentlike I've seen. You know, I
went to rewatch Return of the Jediin theaters, i went to rewatch Rogue

(18:52):
one in theaters, but I've neverseen like new new Star Wars like at
least recently, so that that waspretty pretty nice to briefly just chat about
the show itself. I just wantto talk about like pretty much early reviewers
real quick. The Star Wars hasreached a point similar into the MCU where
early reviews and people that get tosee like the first four episodes of it

(19:15):
start they compare it to past projectsthat are like that are like top notch,
like real real quality stuff. Sofor the MCU, it's always like,
oh, this is this new Marvelproject returns the roots of the Winter
Soldier and it's never that. Andwith this, a lot of people were
like, oh it is it islike narratively similar to and Or, Like

(19:36):
it's it's like and Or but withJedi, and I'm like, dude,
it's not even close, like noteven close. That's not even what it's
advertised as, like not even close. You know, the none of the
marketing of the actual show says that. But like the way that, you
know, the way that like filmjournalists and people that got to see it
early, they're like, oh,yeah, it's like narratively similar to and
Or, and it's like similar toand Or in tone with this like deep

(19:59):
ho hitting mystery. And I'm justlike no, no, no, no,
it's not like I want. Ijust don't want for cause my expectations,
like and you know that's my ownfault for like kind of putting my
expectations there. But it's just like, you know, I don't know what
it is, but it's super common. It's like I think it's like a
thing to just build up hype fora show, to like get excited for
it. It's like, oh,it's like for Marvel, it's like The

(20:22):
Winter Soldier for this it's like inor and like, I'm just like you
guys just gotta let things kind ofjust be their own thing, you know,
because you set like this crazy expectationamongst other people when you compare it
to like the best stuff that they'veever done, you know, you know
what I mean. So it's likewe got we gotta chill, we gotta
chill on that. But but no, like I guess to just speak on

(20:45):
it just just a little generally.I like, I think it's like I'll
definitely be returning for it, ButI don't think I was like absolutely floored
by the show. There's a lotof stuff that I really like, and
then there's just stuff where I'm justlike kind of in the middle line.
But let me toss it to youreal quick. Uh. And I first
wanted to talk about your name inthe chat right now, which is Anakin

(21:06):
blew Up the Death Star. Sosix oh, I didn't even see that.
I just I just see Anakin blewup the Yeah, you often Itbby,
That's gonna be my name if youwant to provide a little bit of
context behind Anakin blew Up the DeathStar, and then we can have a
quick chat about this, sure,sure, sure, sure, I don't.

(21:30):
I didn't dive too deep into this. And if you're listening to this
and you you might have an ideawhat I've I'm referring to. So one
of the actors, who's he kindof one one of the main actors in
the show so far, at least, Charlie Barratt. Yeah, he's Yord.
Yeah, he plays Yord. Hewas in an interview, like a
pre release interview about the Acolyte,and the first clip that I saw about

(21:55):
it was the only thing it said. It was just a clip of him
going Anakin, blew up the DeathStar and kill millions. And then I'm
like, okay, I'm just I'mgonna go into the comments and see what
I know people are gonna be like, for lack of better terms, just
ripping his ass apart. And sureenough they were. And but even me,

(22:17):
like me and Joe have and Briantoo, have always been out here
on the show that we never everreally go to that haha dark side of
the Star Wars fandom, right,Like, we very very much naturally and
also sometimes like intentionally stay away fromthat part of the fandom that just like
gets down to the nitty gritty,but like I in my mind, I

(22:38):
was just initially like, I'm sorry, there is no way in hell that
this common piece of I say,common piece of Star Wars knowledge about what
happened in the original trilogy, likeone of the biggest events too, technically
of the biggest events in the originaltrilogy. There's no way that somebody's coming
on to another Star War or showjust totally botching that information. And I

(23:03):
say that, and that's kind oflike my initial like regurgitation of like how
I felt when I heard it,And then you know, me and Joe
kind of like talked about it alittle bit, and it's like, okay,
well, like do you really expectthe actors for the show to know
absolutely everything about Star Wars? No? Maybe maybe he had like a little
like Freudian slip or maybe he hadlike it's like a little dyslexic moment,

(23:25):
like I don't know, like maybehe meant to say Luke for the first
one and then you know the secondone. I I don't know, but
you have to like I had totry to tell myself like okay, like
it's not that big of a dealfor me, Like it's not going to
ruin my like viewing experience or liketry to create a bias in my head
about this actor or the character thatthis actor's playing. But that one slip

(23:52):
up is going to affect a hugepart of the Star Wars fandom and there
it's just going to like create thissnowball of like negative attitude towards the show
and towards like the casting choices.Is like, I think, what really
kind of got me? Not likeI care about other people's opinions that much,
but it's just I don't know,and I still think about it.

(24:15):
I'm like, dude, this ispretty this this really is common knowledge.
Like if you're at trivia's Star WarsTrivia night and they're like, who blew
up the first nut star? Youlike, if you answer Anakin, if
you take the time to come upwith the answer and you say Anakin,
especially being an actor in a StarWars show. I don't know. Anyways,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'mgonna cool down a little bit and
like pass it to you and justlike hear your hear your thoughts on this

(24:38):
and and maybe related to the othershows, like you know, other actors
being in big franchises that maybe don'tknow everything about the war. Yeah,
no, I like that it isa pretty bad slip. And uh,
like it's even possible that, likehe he watched, like you know,
when Anakin blows up the Trade Federationship, maybe he like makes the trade.

(25:00):
Maybe there's there's a possibility he mixedthe mixed up the Trade Federationship with the
death Star. But Anakin does blowsomething up. But I don't, I
don't. I don't think it wasthat. No. I I genuinely think
he like he either mixed up theships or he definitely mixed up the names.
And it's like to just come tothat guy's defense like they're they're impressed

(25:22):
all fucking day, like answering likethe same questions from pretty much everybody.
Yeah, I know, at theend of the day, if the actor
like doesn't, I don't think itdepends Like I would, I would argue
that, like you know, OrlandoBloom getting cast in Lord of the Rings,
like I bet he only just prepelledlike when he got the role.
He probably prepared and read the booksprior, but he wasn't like diving in

(25:47):
fully into the fandom like I thinkactors get cast and stuff, like if
they can play the part, notbecause of how much they know the lore,
you know, like knowing the lawis probably just a plus more important.
Yeah, you know so far.I like I I like the type
of character he is in the show, which I'll get into specifically later.

(26:07):
It's like you said too, likemaybe Harrison Ford like in the original trilogy.
Yeah, I was about to bringthat up. Like if you asked
Harrison Ford a like something about StarWars Lord today, he either wouldn't answer
it or he'd just say, likeI don't give a fuck, Like you've
heard him say that on multiple interviewsbefore. He's like, I forget which
interviews for, but like this isa pretty popular one. Like someone asked

(26:30):
him like, oh, who shotfirst Hanord Grido and he was like,
I don't care. I got paidfor it, you know. So it's
like like doctors don't care about thatlittle shit. Yeah. But also,
like in Harrison Ford's defense, likethere was not a whole lot of Star
Wars lore at the time at thattime original trilogy, So it's like,

(26:52):
yeah, but that act, thatthat question that I just told you about,
the Han versus Greedo thing that wasthat was a question that was asking
when like the Force Awakens came out, Like he right pressed for the Force
Awakens, right, so, likeall the prequels have been out, Like
like I bet if you presented himwith a trivia question, well hopefully he
would know who blew up the firstStar Views. He just wants a trivia
question for that, you know.Yeah, And I think just for him

(27:15):
in general, he just wants toavoid all conversation about Star Wars because it's
just like he's tired of that.He's in his seventies, like he's almost
eighty, Like he's just tired ofit. But anyways, I digress.
Yeah, I know, So Idon't know, I do think that it's
like it's just you know, thethe problematic side of the fandom that you
that you're mentioning, Like while thisis a bad slip, like I think

(27:37):
they're they're just latching onto this onejust because it is like the first like
quote unquote wrongdoing of one of thecast members. Yeah, and to get
the record straight, like I'm notout here still thinking like oh my god,
I hate this actor. I youknow, like I'm not I'm not
like compulsing or like lashing like,like you said, latching onto this slip

(28:00):
up. That's not where I amright now in my headspace. But at
first I was like, you know, it hurts me, it definitely,
No, it's it's it's it's frustrating, like you first hear them, just
like, dude, come on,it's like come on man, Yeah,
yeah, I know. I first, like when I first saw that and
I was like, oh, thisis going well, I know it is.

(28:22):
I just had to go on Twitterand type up like I think.
I literally just typed the three wordslike Anakin death star, and I saw
all the problematic accounts like just celebratingthis happened. That's so counterintuitive from those
like fuck yeah, the show sucksand the causes no ship. Hell yeah.

(28:44):
I was like, you guys arefucking losers, Like what the hell
is. Meanwhile, those people arestill in the background, like rewatching the
episodes over and over and over andagain to ironic and ironically find more slip
ups. But they're actually like feedinginto the need by constantly rewatching it.
So it's like, yeah, Iknow, you're just increasing the viewership numbers
by hate watching something. It's justlike that goes both ways. Too,

(29:07):
Like if for for folks that havelike problematic content, if you don't like
the person, just don't watch it. If there's just like one clip of
somebody that I know annoys me,I'll just like mute their social media so
I never have to see it again, you know, like you don't have
to engage with anything that you don'tlike. And yeah, I guess that's

(29:30):
that's just kind of the the worldof social media that we live in.
But yeah, unless you were thatperson that posted, uh, the whole
Ahsoka's better than and or thing,then you're just like objectively wrong. Oh
no, I think you're just Ithink you're just there doing like like engagement.
Yeah, you're trying to get clicks, shake the But you know,
sometimes it can be objectively funny.Like I saw that. I'm like,

(29:53):
like, I won't engage in this, but I know what you're trying to
do, what you're doing. Ithink I see what you're doing, and
that's pretty funny. Yeah, so, man, Star Wars fans are fun.
That's the context behind Anakin blew upthe Death Star. Since you know
it is, it's fine. Yeah, So so what'd you think about the

(30:15):
act lite? I okay, soI think I kind of just gotta run
through it kind of like like episodeby episode title card for the first episode,
like opening opening crawl, opening crawlor quote quote opening crawl. Yeah,
no, that's yeah. It wassick. I think it rules.

(30:38):
I think it's a perfect like mixtureof an homage to a long time ago
in a galaxy far far away.But it also kind of had the same
instead of it being you know,like you don't go into the whole like
main theme and then you know,the text is like moving away from you
in this weird angle, but itkind of had the same font as like
the first Ahsoka episode. You'll giveme a little nostalgia, but then you

(31:02):
know, reminded me of like someyou know, some some recency love that
I kind of expected this too,but the show kind of just like jumped
straight into just some action. Man. They kind of just jumped straight into
some like I'm not going to sayamazing choreography, but some pretty good choreography.
And with it being Carrie am Moss, I instantly and like the hand

(31:25):
to hand combat and all the blocksand all that, I was like,
all right, i feel like I'min the matrix for like it's Trinity.
Bit like even the way that sheshe moves like over like staircases and jumps
from place to place and like thisis straight up Trinity. And I think
that was that was definitely intentional,because for sure, one of the things
that Leslie Hedlin said about casting hername is Daphne Keane. She's Jackie or

(31:52):
Jackie. She's all the younger padawanwith like like I don't know, young
woman, you know. Like oneof the things she said about casting Daphnie
Keenan this was I don't know ifyou've ever seen Logan, but she's X
man. Oh X twenty three.There you go. She was X twenty
three and Logan and she straight upset, like no, I just wanted to

(32:15):
see X twenty three with a coupleof lightsabers and that's all I wanted.
Is so definitely Leslie saw Carrie AnneMoss and was like, you know what
I want to see. I wantto see Trinity with lightsabers. Like the
robotic hand movements and like like allthat is just like immediate flashbacks. I'm
with you there. I do likethe action a lot. I liked all

(32:38):
the martial arts that's in it.I like the choreography. I would also
say that, like it's probably thecoolest, Like we've definitely never seen this
type of hand to hand combat inStars before. No, you know,
like this type of like martial arts, like flying kicks and all that shit,
Like we've never seen any of thatstuff. So I think that's that's
probably one of the one of thecoolest parts of the show as well.

(32:59):
And I do think that the likethis initial opening sequence or like opening scenes
let us know that, Okay,we're it's not like we're going to see
like uses of the of the Forcethat we've never seen before, but it's
been a while since we've seen likeJedi being Jedi and like the Force being

(33:20):
used how the Force should be used, right, Like you're fucking floating up
staircases, you're you know, forcestopping daggers being like thrown at people.
It's not the best showcase so farof the Force in the show at least,
but like it definitely gives us alittle appetizer of like, Okay,
this is the High Republic, Likethis is kind of the height of the
well one time period of where theJedi are like at their peak. Essentially

(33:45):
they stop on knives. Can westop on knives? Yeah? Sure,
sure? How how are you withknives in this? Are you? Are
you chill with with carry on Mossbeing killed off in like the first fifteen
with a little ass knife break.It doesn't, it does, Okay.
My problem is not necessarily that it'sa knife. My problem is that she's

(34:06):
the second Jedi or anything that's everbeen stabbed in Star Wars that actually dies
besides Qui Gone. Every every seriously, every other person who's been stabbed by
a lightsaber, like stabbed by anything. I don't even know if there's been
other characters have been stabbed in Starsby knives. But am I wrong?

(34:27):
Like every time somebody gets stabbed bylightsaber, shot by a blaster, they're
just like oh and they're out forlike just walking in minutes of an episode,
and then they're just like back inand you're like, okay, not
like I have a problem with it, but it's like it's bad. I
don't. I don't have a problemwith it either, Like I'm not gonna
complain about it. It's just likereally funny to me that like a lot
of people I feel like, sufferlike worse injuries than Star wars and they

(34:51):
just kind of walk it off likeit's like without a scratch. These things
are like little kitchen knives, andmaybe, if you want to get specific
and like like medic stuff and shit, like maybe she got stabbed like straight
in the heart that's why she died. But I don't know, dude.
I mean, it's it's a littlebit multi like very conflicting for me,
because number one, I was sopissed that she got killed off so quickly,

(35:15):
and then number two of the wholelike getting stabbed and then actually dying
for once. And then the otherproblematic thing before and Dara died was that
she pulls down the mask of thewell, we don't know who she is
at the time, but the assassinshe pulls down the mask and she's like,
oh, like it's this huge revelationthat it's like I didn't know that

(35:37):
was you. But it's like youcan clearly distinguish who she is even with
the mask on, Like it's notlike she's hiding our identity that great.
But then like the episode goes onand you realize they showed the tattoo on
the forehead, and that's where Iwas like, Okay, I and also
as I was watching it, Iwas like, wait, I thought this
was being advertised as like murder mister, you know Star Wars murder mystery,

(36:01):
and it's like it just gave upthe murder right now, Like yeah,
no, there's there's no there's nomystery and there's no mystery. The only
thing that's the mystery at this pointis who she's working for, right,
and that I do want to know. That is like you know, and
I and I hope they're not baitingus. Like this feels like Moroake all

(36:22):
over again, like how everyone's like, oh, Moroca is this person Moroca's
apples and morok is Luke Skywalker likehis clone. No, but I think
this time around they they will theywould since they are trying to do like
a mystery. I think it issomeone that is like that we've already seen.
Yeah, I would actually believe itthis time, Like I would actually

(36:43):
like look into theories and stuff,because I don't think that's like impossible or
no outside the realm of like alike if you want to do this as
a murder mystery, that that wouldbe pretty fun, and you know you
you will. We'll circle back tolike how the murder mystery kind of changes
in like the plot twist. ButI'm just kind of picking up off where,
you know after that scene, justkind of little tidbits talk about some

(37:05):
droids in Star Wars. We loveour droids in Star Wars. We do
droids and Star Wars. I'm kindof a big fan of. We don't
know her name at this point.I don't think but Oshi OHI right,
Yeah, the twins are Osha inMay. I was getting in my in
my head, I was getting atwisted up with Asha from fucking Game of
Thrones. I love like her droid. It's because it's kind of like every

(37:30):
droid is like a is a toolessentially, right, Like every droid has
a function to fix her repair something. But hers is like a little like
hand hand pocket multi tool. It'sit's just a little guy. You know.
It's so cute and I love it. Loved hearing Narshada that like I
have that was like, yeo,let's go I have I have that in

(37:52):
my notes too for sure, thatlike I heard that name drop because I
have like a little bit I'll justgo on about it. So the investigation
itself and the costumes feel very nice. Of the Old Republic to me because
terrorists hearing the Narshadad name drop I'veonly heard in Kotor. I think it
was in Kotor two. They probablydropped it by name in Kodetor one,

(38:14):
but you never went to the planet. But no, even OSHA's costume,
this is gonna be ADDI specific.So try to reach into your Kotor brain.
But where but her costume legit lookslike like the combat vest that you
wear, like it's one of likethe it kind of looks like the early
armor sets that you get like veryearly in the game, you know.

(38:35):
So I was like, damn,this is this is kind of sick.
But not only that, like everythingabout the investigation, Like you know,
if you're Osha, Like let's sayyou're running through this this world of the
act Lite as Osha and then youjust like stumble upon this dead body and
then you loot it for remains orwhatever, and you're like researching, You're

(38:57):
researching with people like it feels likeKotor. Yeah, you know, it
feels like an investigation that you doin Kotor, which I think is a
lot of fun. And I alsolike, I mean I haven't really I
don't have a lot of knowledge orinsight into the High Republic. But I've
gotten like a decent chunk into theOld Republic comic books, which do kind
of align with the Kotor games.But even even the Old Republic comic books

(39:21):
this kind of has a similar vibeto it as well, Like there's this
big crime committed and you're like,there's a lot of big forces at at
play and there's a lot at stake, and which I have another problem with
the way that they film the showand the music definitely sometimes feels cheaped out
on, Like there's definitely some somescenes something feels like not it's not as

(39:45):
dramatized or suspenseful as enough as itshould, you know what I mean?
Okay, yeah, yeah, SoI have a specific scene that I have
in mind. I don't know ifit's an episode one or two, Like
apologies for jumping around a little bit, but I think it's an episode two
where she he goes to the guyI forget his name, but she's like
carry needs, yeah, the apothecaryto get poison, and she's like,

(40:06):
oh, I have to kill thisJedi and like this like this feels so
tonally wrong, Like it feels likelighthearted. It's almost like if you put
like a murder mystery in the MCUor something, or it feels like Scooby
Doo. It's like there there needsto be like some type of drama or

(40:28):
seriousness or like some grave tone associatedwith this scene and it's just not that,
you know, and I don't Idon't know if that's like intentional or
if or if it's the actress.I don't know if it's like a mandla,
but like something just feels like overall, it's It's one of my biggest
criticisms of the show is like itit doesn't feel like, yeah, it
feels like there's no stakes. Itjust feels very like lighthearted and kind of

(40:52):
silly. And it's also, likeI previously said, there are some moments,
but I think that is honestly theone moment that I felt was very
lacking in what we just described,like all the descriptors, I feel like
all the other like suspenseful moments weredone well enough, like to make you
feel like, you know, youshould be on the edge of your seat

(41:13):
like a little bit or like veryanticipatory of like what's gonna happen next,
But yeah, they definitely missed outon that opportunity. But rewinding a little
bit, going back to the murdermystery where it's like, oh, like,
okay, they just reveal the murder, but then you go to the
like immediately go to the scene whereit's like she wakes up and she's in
the the Trade Federation ship, whichwas kind of cool to see the Trade

(41:35):
Federation again. I kind of dugthat. But then she waked the Sivilians,
Yeah, the Niemidians. I thinkthey're Niemidians. But yeah, like
she wakes up and you're like,wait a minute, so did she just
have a dream that she murdered inDara or like what's flying on here?
That's what? Is that what youthought? No, it's all I thought

(41:59):
they were gonna try and go forlike a like a personality disorder thing where
like she like that falls Yeah,like kind of like a moonnight thing,
like a split person that I thoughtthat would have been like pretty interesting,
But like when I saw that shewoke up in the ship, I was
like, you know, there's noway she could have been there, you
know, I mean, unless likeshe committed the crime. And then like

(42:22):
Osha exactly just like moon night likeran her to a new location and then
she wakes up and she doesn't knowwhere she is, right, She's in
the other body essentially. Yeah,so I thought that's what they were trying
to go for, but I guessit's actually like actual twins, which is
another thing that I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, and then and
then like it it progresses from thereand like you learn that she's a mechnic,

(42:43):
which is pretty much she's doing thejob of a of an astromech droid.
And then this is a very minusculedetail that I that I saw it,
but I just feel like I haveto point out because she goes out
onto the ship with her coworker andshe tries to fix like some part of
the ship and it's catch us onfire, and I'm like, all right,

(43:06):
here we go. Wear are thecomments there's no fire in space?
No. I can't believe you immediatelywent to the internet because that was a
huge trending thing, like in StarWars. Twitter is like everyone's talking about
the fire in space, and I'mjust like, have you guys not seen

(43:28):
like anything explode in Star Wars?Ever? What the fuck are you complaining
about fire in space. Like literallythe first Death Star blew up and there
was fire everywhere. Stop being stopeverybody trying to be Neil Degrass Tyson.
Okay, we don't need your sciencefiction. It's it's fantasy. Like you
don't need to you don't need todo it, you don't need to do

(43:49):
it. But the fact that you'veguys have done this so much now I
notice it and I hate it.I hate it. Damn man, people
are so crazy, like everyone's graspingat straws. Stop trying to bring it
down. Just just just stop.No, Like I I definitely have my
issues, but like fire in spaceand Star Wars, like, be so

(44:10):
fucking for real, Like you're you'rerelating science as we know it to a
show that's a fantasy science fiction show, and it just what about what other
things about Star Wars make you thinkthat any of the rules of Star Wars
obey science as we know it.The force just ruins all of it,
Like what stop? Just just don'tdo it. Fucking fucking people are shooting

(44:34):
at each other with blasters and spaceshipsand their ships blow up and set on
fire, and there sound and they'resound in space all the time. Which
is not a real thing, justlike you're you're literally ruining your one like
tiny possible chances of enjoying what you'reactually watching, if you wanted to enjoy
it at all to begin with,if you did it, or like you

(44:58):
just had this, even if youwanted to try and even try to give
it a chance. But no,it doesn't seem like anybody's like that for
at least for that side of thefandom anyway. We're not We're we're not
here to argue with people who don'tdeserve to be argued with. But so
what happens after, like, youknow, she wakes up, she goes
out to fix, you know,fix part of the ship. The Jedi

(45:20):
show up, which kind of doesremind me of Phantom Menace a little bit,
with you know why God and obiWan showing up on you know,
the trade federationship, which I know, I like the homage, it's not
super blaringly obvious. There's one homagethat I will point out at some point
that I do not like, youknow, essentially jord and what's what's her
name? What's the other ones?I forget? I forget the other Jedi's

(45:42):
name, the other Jedi, butthey that's the only time that like she
shows up. But yeah, theyshow up on the ship and they're pretty
much investigating the murder of Anddhara.And when you, like, at least
for me, when I was likeexperiencing these interactions between Osha and jord and
the other Jedi, like is Oshalike pretending really really well that she didn't

(46:05):
actually commit the murder or like I'mnot gonna lie, Like up to this
point watching the show, like Iam thrown for a little bit of a
loop as to what's actually happening andwho committed the murder. But I just
could not see what angle they weretaking at like this juncture in the first
episode. I will have to sayit was yours first appearance. It was
Charlie Bennett Barnett's first appearance, andthe only thing that came to my head

(46:29):
was that interview, and I waslike, Okay, I kind of like
his presence on screen. I like, I do. Like I think he
looks dope as a Jedi, bigtall, he's kind of like yellow Lightsaber.
He's like a like a sentinel essentiallya Jedi night Like, like I
like the vibe of it, doI like his acting, like I think

(46:50):
it's okay like at this point,and the few lines of dialogue that he
has in the few scenes that hehas so far, so I'm not like,
you know, again, I'm nothating, but it is a very
interesting like sequence to the end ofthe episode because essentially what happens is,
you know, you have these otherprisoners that which were really dope species by
the way, whatever that dude thatshoot tentacles out of his head and like

(47:15):
wrap it around the bars and likethat was crazy, Like you know,
it's a big reason why we dolove Star Wars, like the numerous,
infinite amount of species that are inStar Wars. I mean, that's a
big reason why I like it.But okay, then you know the ship
starts starts crashing. She crash landson Carlac Car, which is in the

(47:35):
Clone Wars because in the Clone Warsblocks Monetary and Bocatan. It's a huge
part of like the Death Watch arcsor like part of one of the arcs.
Love love the honorable mentions of planets. I love. I always love
that for some reason, you know, because it's building the universe. You
know, either return to places oryou see something new and even when you

(47:58):
do return to places, you seehim in a different light. I love
that. I love that aspect seeingChorisson was was sick. The introduction Master
Soul Soul fantastic casting choice. Absolutely, yeah. The Jedi temple is looking
it's looking pristine, is looking pristine, which each each time they do Chorusson,
it's always right, but I feellike it looked more gold this time

(48:19):
around for some reason, like likea blend of like bronze and gold and
yeah, like yeah, the light, like even the lighting hits a little
differently, Like it seems like likethe sun shines on Cooriston a little differently.
I think that might be like athematic choice, just because you know,
peace. Yeah, but being backin there young wings being trained,

(48:45):
the first young wing they show that'slike an alien dude that that dude is
chilling so hard. Yeah yeah yeah, the big furry guy with like the
big old eyes. I was like, dang, this fell sick is the
coolest the little battle one that I'veever seen. The only other over Padawan
that I've ever seen is Gungee,but that will change. The second episode,

(49:05):
third episode, second end of endof second episode, second eisode but
we'll see him. We'll see himmore in the third episode. But what
did you what did you think before, like the very last scene of the
of the first episode, what didyou think of the padawan who what do
you see? You know? Soulis like, you know, what do
you see? And she's like fire. I think's like she's seeing darkness.

(49:27):
Like as a new teacher, Iprobably would have been like, what full
class is canceled? No, heprobably like flagged down another another Mask'd be
like, yo, this one righthere, better keep an extra eye on
this one right here. But itreminds me of the scene where Luke is
training Ray and then she she tellshim that he tells her to focus,

(49:50):
and then what she sees, andshe she sees like everything on that planet,
right, she sees like all thepeaceful stuff, and then she also
sees the darkness under the under thethe rocks or whatever. And then I
think that's like kind of what theywere trying to go for here, Like
you had one pad one that's likeseeing like all the peaceful, the tranquil
stuff, and then the other onewho sees like they're just trying to show

(50:12):
you, Like I don't know,I guess like the two balance or the
two sides of the Force. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it
was pretty neat. Yeah, andI think it's no I one hundredsent agree
with what you're saying. And also, on top of that, I think
it's a little bit of foreshadowing outon what's to come, because at this
point, the Jedi, because theSith nothing, dark Side is nothing.
Yeah, it's starting to rise upto return. Yeah, even though the

(50:36):
Acolyte, whoever the Acolyte is,I mean, for all we know,
may could be the Acolyte, whichshe probably isn't. But whoever the Acolyte
is, whoever the Master Sith isright now because the rule of two is
in effect at this point in thetimeline, I'm pretty sure it definitely is.
What I'm trying to get at isthat whoever the Master is is trying
to keep their identity super secret untilthe time is right to strike. And

(51:02):
from what we know in prequel trilogyis that even they didn't know that the
Sith were rising when Qui Gon starredDarth Mal Like, was that a Sith
at some point in the show,the Acolyte, Like, nobody's gonna know
that the Sith are returning. Thisis my kind of thought process moving to
that last final scene. What didyou think just that little cliffhanger? I

(51:25):
thought it was interesting. I kindof always wonder like they did the same
thing, uh at the end ofat the end of Solo with the Darth
Maul cameo, what's the deal withigniting the lights? Theyber aside from just
showing us that you have like doesnothing for the actual story. That's it.
It's just for show. But no, I'm like really interested to see

(51:50):
like you and I didn't even thinkof that. You know what what you
just said is that with the ruleof two being in place, like I
was just already assuming that May isthe Acolyte and this mystery Sith character is
like the Master. I never thoughtthat that the Sith could be the acolyte.
And then you know the Master isstill like working in the shadows and

(52:13):
it is Darth Baine. I justlooked it up. That started the rule
Darth Baanekay, Yeah, you're right, you're right, So the rule of
two is in place. But thenonce he implemented that, then the Sith
got extinct for forever. So therule two was kind of forgotten because the
Sith weren't around then when Tenebrists camearound, then Plagis, then Citius came
around. That's when the rule oftwo like became modernized into what we know

(52:36):
of Star Wars. You know,there's enough intrigue there for me to continue
returning to the show. Do youhave any any guesses or like theories at
all on who could who could bethe mass Sith? I saw this theory
online. This isn't my guess,but I like, I like this one.
I think it's the Apothecary because whenshe I think he's each time that

(53:01):
she commits a murder, like hehe is there, he's like kind of
around, well not each time maybemaybe not like within Dhara, but when
she met up with him on Ithink she met up with him at the
at the end of the episode onthe same planet. Like there's just one
scene in particular where May tried sneakingup on him and like he he was
too like like it seems like heknew some good he knew some good combat.

(53:24):
Like there was a scene where hehad to like dodge a bunch of
stuff and he seemed like he wasway too like smooth with it, like
yeah, and and he seemed likehe was trained. I did have that
kind of thought like maybe he ismaybe more powerful than we are presented because
he also like they clearly have thisbusiness that like he's pretty much like I

(53:47):
am going to help you kill allfour of these Jedi Masters no matter what.
And then at yeah, you knowthe end of episode two, which
will get into they he knows exactly where to go for one of the
Jedi Masters next one. I mean, those are my thoughts on the first
episode. Let's see, so Ithink my one of one of the thoughts

(54:08):
that I had, Like another criticismI have with the whole Twin thing that
it's it's not really selling me onit because I feel like they're like each
one of them like they're trying tosell them like one one's like light side,
one sized dark Side or whatever rightto me. I don't I don't
know if like I don't know ifit's you know, the actress or whatever,
just the way that she's written orhow it's being directed. But the

(54:30):
twin thing isn't really working for meright now, mostly because like May and
Osha don't seem different all that much. You know, like there there's no
like vast like personality differences. They'rejust like I don't know, yeah,
no there, yeah, but Ifeel like if you like, if one
is really bad, like it shouldbe different, right, like she should

(54:52):
be different. Yeah, well youalso but you also do have that moment
between Soul and this actually might bein the second episode but where they actually
catch well and but also Soul hasthis conversation with Osha, and OSHA's saying
all these things about revenge, andSoul is pretty much saying like revenge is

(55:13):
not the Jedi way, and thenOSHA's like, you're not my you're my
fucking master anymore, Like I'm nota Jedi anymore. But like once you've
been like started to be trained inthe Jedi arts, I feel like that
doesn't really go away unless you trulycut yourself off from the force. I
mean that's just my understanding of it. If she still does have some of
that Jedi in her, if she'sseeking revenge, she could also be bad

(55:37):
or like an antagonist or a villainat some point. Also, but I
see what you're saying, But it'slike it's like you can literally flip a
coin and there they'd be the samething, right, yeah, Like they're
not heads or tails. It's likeheads and heads and or tails tails and
tails. So that yeah, no, I could definitely see like I think
maybe that is done intentionally, justbecause like maybe she turns by the end

(56:00):
or may may turns like turns itaround in the end, so like she
she has like that internal struggle thatyou always see in Star Wars. So
yeah, I have a little bitof issues there. I want to jump
back to Yord. I think Yordis pretty cool. One of the things
about him that that me and Brianhave talked about, like the whole idea
of Jedi becoming like like the Jediare essentially at like at the peak of

(56:22):
their power and they're more of likethey become like more like galactic police,
right. Yeah. I think Jordis the embodiment of this idea, which
I think is like I think it'sreally I think it's really well done,
mostly because like you catch him likewhen he first shows up with his padawan
on that ship and he starts likeyou know, asking questions and the stuff,

(56:44):
and he starts to use his forceabilities forcibly to like obtain information,
like he he does like the Jedimind trick. He does the person like
you know in Kotor, how youdo like a persuade and it gives you
dark side points sometimes, like that'swhat but that's what I feel like Jord
is doing here, you know whatI mean up on the screen. Yeah,

(57:07):
no, no, like, andI'll briefly jump to episode two,
and like, whenever he approaches somebody, he's always like, oh, like
like freezing, like the name ofthe High Republic or some shit, you
know, Like he's definitely like hehe comes off as like kind of like
a cocky, like authoritative Jedi.So I think that's I think that's pretty
well done if if that's the intentionfor Ord. Yeah, and I also

(57:27):
think it's yeah, no, I'dagree with that. And it's also perfect
that he has like a yellow lightsaberfor specifically his strengths as like a like
a character and as a Jedi andas we you know, you and I
describe green yellow blue lightsabers right like, because I feel like we we both
have the tendency to just when wesee colored lightsabers, we categorize him to

(57:50):
consular, you know, guardian sentinel. Like I think it's perfect for him
because he's just like, Eh,you're in the middle. You definitely like
in four your abilities as a Jedi, you know, an enforce, an
enforcer is a is a better wayto I think put it. And I
don't necessarily have a problem with thatposition of the Jedi in this time period,

(58:12):
but like, public opinion about theJedi definitely does not see ey'd eye
with the way I see it,Like from the from the brief moments that
we've got public opinion from the accoladesso far, nobody trusts the Jedi.
It's almost similar to pretty much thesequel trilogy. They start becoming political puppets,
and you know, there's definitely resonancebetween the two. And it's also
fun too because like in the sequeltrilogy, the Jedi are like mythical,

(58:37):
you know, right here, they'relike they're everywhere very real. They are
very so uh, I guess otherother like character introductions like we briefly touched
already, but Master Soul is cool. I'd say for now, he is
like kind of fulfilling the whole mentorrole, which pretty much spells doom for

(59:00):
characters in Star Wars. And Ithink that's just like a like a storytelling
trope. It's like, whoever thementor figure is, they're kind of done
for. And it's funny because likewhen they interviewed the actor for this,
his name is Lee Jung Jay,he said that his favorite character in Star
Wars is Qui gon Ah. MasterSoul does like he does kind of remind

(59:24):
me of Qui gon in the waybecause something similar between the both of them
is like kind of like questioning likehow the Jedi do things. There's there's
someone like, you know, there'sclearly a killer on the loose, and
then like can I go investigate?And then you know, Vanessa's like,
no way, you have to comeback to the council and like we have
to approve like this, that andthe other, Like what the fuck are

(59:45):
you guys talking about? I cango get him right now. Well,
but at first Venesstra was like,yeah, go investigate. But then the
second circuit, the second that circumstancesstarted changing. But as you're saying,
now you gotta come back and wegot to talk about this, and then
Soul's like, the fuck, howis this any different than the first time?
He told me to investigate? Essentially, and that's how I had it

(01:00:07):
in that's very qui gon Ask islike, Okay, now you're just going
to go back on like your originalphilosophy on the whole situation. So yeah,
no, Master Soul is uh,he's great. I hope he makes
it out. And what if theyjust threw us for a loop and he's
the guy in the mask. Idon't think that'd be wild. But I
don't think so because it seems likeit seems like the mystery right now is

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something happened in the past. AndI think the the core like Jedi masters
that we're seeing right now are allkeeping a secret from May and Osha.
Oh yeah, I guess that's thetwo main Those are the two most mysterious
parts of the show so far,is who is the guy in the mask?
And what happened in the past thatthey're trying to hide from everybody.

(01:00:51):
Well, I think more specifically isthe fact that Soul saved Osha from the
you know, the village being destroyedor whatever when they were young, right,
and he says he couldn't he couldn'tsave the twin sister, but he
knew that May was alive eventually,whether he felt that they were a force
or like he always knew that Maywas alive, So I think that's the

(01:01:13):
like, that's the critical you know, critical mass right there. That's that's
the breaking point. Is like Soulknows something about saving trying to save both
of them or one or the other, that something happened, and he's keeping
it a secret from the rest ofthe Jedi Council with the Jedi Masters,
but is betraying it to be someother secret. A lot of a lot

(01:01:34):
of a lot of things are upin the air here, So I'd say
that's all I have for for episodeone for now. Any thoughts on episode
two, Yeah, So, Imean I definitely, I definitely liked episode
two, but I do feel likethere's this weird unexplained like like Soul just
like obviously starts, you know,he trusts Osha with his life and then

(01:01:57):
but he doesn't really have to explainhimself that much to anybody else was involved
in trying to figure out the murder, which I think is kind of weird.
You know, Like Soul being superprotective of Osha definitely makes sense,
but like Yord is just like almostinstantly on board after he followed Osha down
to where Torbin was which Torbin's fuckingsick. I don't know, Like I

(01:02:22):
think that's like the most interesting partof the episode for me in terms of
just like story. So I don'tnecessarily understand the whole interaction between May and
Torbin. So May May gets thepoison made from the apothecary air quote.
Torbin is one of the masters thatmay May needs to kill, and she

(01:02:43):
just sets the poison down in frontof him, and she says, oh,
like, I know you took thisvow because he committed some sort of
crime in the past. That's whyhe's never talked to anybody in ten years
and it's never opened his eyes orlike's It was like a vow of like
islance type of silence. Yeah,that what she says. Oh, okay,

(01:03:04):
So it's not explained then, Likeit's not explained at that moment.
I think I I might have missedit, but it definitely like something happened
between like Soul and Dara, likeall them, like the reason why she's
killing all them because they all collectivelyeither did or know something in the past.
Like there's a key moment that westill have yet to see. So

(01:03:25):
I don't know if like we probablywon't see it for like an episode or
two. But it's possible that itwas explained like by the apothecary, but
I'm not exactly sure. Like it'slike something that she says, like he
opens his eyes and talks to her, takes the poison and dies. No,
because I think what she said islike you think taking this valve silence
is like enough, but like I'mgiving you this poison to give you like

(01:03:51):
the freedom that you're really looking for. I think that's that's like kind of
hard to get. Do you wantto not be able to see or talk
for the rest of your life?The one way out? This is the
one way out, And I'm sorry, and I'm presenting it to you honestly.
Gotta say that, while while thatmoment is like pretty heavy, that
wig is nuts, dude. Likethe way he looks insane, Yeah,

(01:04:15):
like trying to look bald but likehalf bald. Yeah no. And I'm
pretty sure when they do a flashbackhe has like a full head of hair.
He just looks insane. He looksridiculous, And I mean I mean
for me too, Like when Iwhen I knew it was him, Like
the only thing I can think ofis young young Tom and yeah Lance or

(01:04:36):
whatever, you know whatever, butI think ridiculous. But I think it's
a pretty cool use of the forcethough, Like that's just sick, like
a like a valve of silence andthen like you're just meditating forever, but
you're also protecting yourself via the forceis pretty sick. Like the way I
imagine it was like he's pretty mucha droid Deka with the fucking blue sh

(01:05:00):
around. You can't see it andit's fucking impenetrable, like you just Yeah,
that's just something I noticed each time, and we haven't really talked about
it yet, but each time she'slike tried killing a Jedi in this she
always tries going for their lightsabers,and I'm wondering if, like, hopefully
she is successful in grabbing one andshe'll like try to do a little like

(01:05:21):
Kyber Crystal corruption just to like gether own ship. That'd be pretty cool.
But it's also because she's she's prettymuch like commanded to kill all four
of those Jedi masters without a weapon, but she killed Ndara with a weapon.
Yeah, she killed dude. Also, oh man, just because I
keep on bringing up Kotor, where'sthe force heel at you know, can

(01:05:44):
we get the force heel a littlelike like light blue aura going over you
you know? Yeah, well Iguess that is the old Old Republic.
So I feel like as time goeson throughout Star Wars, like force abilities
just get like, you know,yeah, diluted. Like obviously, that's
like it's like a production thing,like a movie magic thing. That's why

(01:06:06):
there's not that many like force abilities. But like I'm trying to just think
about it as like a lower perspective. I think that's pretty cool that like
force abilities get diluted over time.Well, and it's also like as the
balance of the force shifts, whenPalpatine finally gets revealed and he has fucking
force lightning, that's like the mostpowerful thing we've seen, like in the

(01:06:28):
the prequel trilogy. Like as asit's shifting, like your ability to use
the force changes, you know.And since we are talking about like peak
force abilities, I think what theydo in this in episode two, which
is kind of sick, is thatfor one, like showing people that you
can like you know, catch catchsomeone using the force. I feel like
it's something they don't do. Theydon't do that too often. When Master

(01:06:48):
Soul and May are fighting, likehe was able to like like force freeze
her and then he like read hermind kind of like how Kylo did in
The Force Awakens, you know.Yep, Like I think to be a
to like freeze someone like that andyou know, read their mind at the
same time, It's that's kind ofcool peak forceies. I mean, that's
definitely one of my favorite things aboutthe show so far is like, although

(01:07:11):
it's not the most peak peak Forcewe've seen, whether it's video games,
shows, movies, books, it'sstill is nice to see that it's someone's
out there recognizing the need to seesome something cool in the Force. Yeah,
that's why we like Star Wars,you know. I mean, it's
like the main reason why why welike Star Wars is the Force. Anything
else from episode two a couple ofreally minuscule things, so you know how

(01:07:36):
there was the like they were planningthe whole like the whole like security security
thing on the apothecary shop and theywere waiting for me to come back,
you know, you know, thetwo like I don't know if they're Padawan's,
but there's like like the big chubbykid and there's like the other small
girl, doesn't the big chubby kidkind of remind you of hot By.

(01:07:58):
I swear it was him. Itfor bro, I swear with him.
Super minusule super off topic, Okay, the fact that Osha missed, like
it wasn't point blank, but likemissed a free blaster shot on May while
she was in the speeder. Thatthat was. That was ridiculous. I'm

(01:08:20):
sorry that was that's I don't knowgood, that's good some storm Trooper ship
or she did it intentionally. Ilike, I think it was intentional.
I think she let her go becauseeven like I think she tries to.
Yeah, no, I think shelet her go. I guess it was
a stunt blaster, So why wouldyou miss, you know, like,

(01:08:40):
why would you miss on purpose?It's not like she's gonna die from the
stunt blaster. I think she justwants to see how it plays out,
like what's she up to? Butstill it's like, you probably could have
gone all the answers you wanted ifyou just landed the shot, and then
yeah, it's definitely done intentionally.You ever, do you ever see those
Star Wars me where it's like,uh, you know, in Revenge of

(01:09:03):
the sith where like Anakin and Macewhind you were talking and then Anakin goes
to Macy's like it's like master,I think, uh, I think Palpatine's
the sith Lord we're looking for.And in the actual movie, Mace says
like, oh no, I thinkyou're you're doubting yourself. We'll go check
it out, but we need youto stay here. And the meme it's

(01:09:25):
like Anakin at like tells him andthen she's like, then Mace is you
know what, You're probably right.Let's wait for Obi Wan to get back
and then we'll all go take himtogether, and then he just cuts and
then it just cuts to credits.Like directed by George Lucas. There's there's
so many moments in Star Wars whereyou could just like change one tiny thing

(01:09:46):
and it's like, all right,that's it. The movie's over, which
is like ironically like even more funny, but it's like, well, that's
what makes the movies like worth watching. It's like, yes, sure these
things could be like cheap or whatever, but it's like why would you want
to change it, because then likethe story dramatically changes, you know,

(01:10:06):
yeah, yeah, but I didforget to mention this. So this was
the one homage that was paid thatI really didn't like. Was your had
the honorable privilege to say and havethe line. I have a bad feeling
about this. I'm like, Okay, no, who would you have preferred

(01:10:30):
to say it? Nobody of theof the cast members. Nobody yet not
yet. No, I I guessthat's fair. That's fair, Like there's
nobody that I would say at thispoint in the show. I think it.
I think it was just like ait was kind of like the Leo
pointing meme. It was just forpeople, like, uh, he said

(01:10:50):
it, he said it. No, Yeah, it was just like a
like a like a thing just tossedin there for for fans. I guess.
I don't know. Don't get mewrong. I enjoyed hearing it again
for sure, But yeah, no, it's that. That's That's another thing
about the show that just like thatjust makes me feel like it's it's kind
of just I feel like it needsto take itself like a little more seriously.

(01:11:12):
I don't know, like the overalltone of the show just doesn't feel
right, Like I wish it wasmore grim ahead. I think that's also.
I think it's also because like Ifeel like they are trying to gear
the show possibly for like a youngeraudience, because and I feel like this
is like most Star Wars projects,they usually cast like a younger character,

(01:11:33):
Like I like, one of themost common themes in Star Wars is like,
you know, it's a character thatis like stuck doing one thing,
but they realize potential to like togo do something else, like they want
something bigger for themselves, you know. And I feel like that's why they
always cast somebody young, like asa young person, you should try to

(01:11:53):
I don't know, like yeah,yeah, yeah, for something like this,
I really feel like you need likean older lead. But I mean,
who, well, who's the leadin the show. I mean it's
it's Osha, right, Yeah.I would say Osha and may Are are
like the main folkoories about them.Yeah, man, no, I don't
know. Well, I guess yousaying that like like from a creative and

(01:12:16):
directing standpoint, like trying to sparkor create things in younger people. I
guess you could say the same thingfor those like tiny I'm sorry, I'm
use this word so many times.But the homages like even the one that
I don't like with you know,I have a bad feeling about this.
Like younger people who may have notseen like everything in Star Wars yet or

(01:12:39):
like consumed that much and like gottendeep deeper into the lore might hear that
and then go on social media andbe like might see that mean that's like
the oh, but they've never seenwhere that original quote comes from, so
then it sparks to them to goback and consume that content, which I'm
all, I'm all for that,you know what I mean, But you
never know It's it's really hard andthat's I think that's just in it.

(01:13:00):
And it's only two episodes too,exactly. It's like there's I feel like
there are so many different things thatso many different directions this show can go
that it's way too early to sayreally anything, Like you can really only
give initial thoughts on it and maketheories for fun and you know, you
know, make your predictions and yourguess is and what's gonna happen? And

(01:13:24):
I mean that's really it and sofar from me. It's like, yeah,
I mean I'm always gonna you knowus, I mean, yeah,
you know what this podcast, Yeah, well you know what this podcast is
I'll never I'll never not with everysingle Star Wars thing that I've seen it,
Like, even though like I mayhave like initially like ranked it low,

(01:13:44):
I still like enjoyed watching what Isaw, Like every there's something I
like out of every Star Wars thingthat I've ever seen. You're always gonna
mind some sort of but yeah,last thing, last thing about the second
episode or kill Knaka. Honestly,in the brief little we saw at the
very end of the second episode,like that's what I wanted to see from
freakin Gungee. When when we sawin the Clone Wars that there was a

(01:14:05):
freaking Wookie Padawan, I'm like,Okay, I'm thinking, like where can
this go? And like what doesit actually look like on screen? Or
like what does that look like aslike a like a mature Wookie and maybe
a Jedi night Wookie. I mean, I feel like this embodied it pretty
well within just in fifteen twenty seconds. Right, Yeah, I'm gonna use

(01:14:27):
the Force, but I'm also justgonna be this scary, terrifying monster bear
human that just gets you the fuckoff of my property, you know what
I mean. Yeah, we needmore alien Jedi, any more alien Jedi
for sure. Yeah, I thinkit's I think this show is gonna go
the same way as pretty much everyStar Wars show that we've gotten in the
past few years. Like we're allgonna have our theories, We're all gonna

(01:14:47):
have, you know, our thoughtsand our guesses on where it's gonna go,
and no one's ever gonna get itcompletely right, and we just kind
of got to sit down and andenjoy with the ride and just where the
future goes. You know, can'tcan't just sit down and be like ah
like, because like I feel likeAhsoka kind of taught me this lesson where

(01:15:09):
it was like, you like,we talked a lot about, like you
know, running up to Ahsoka aboutlike Thron and like what they could possibly
do with ah Soca and all thisstuff. And like it's not necessarily that
I got disappointed with it, butI definitely hyped myself up a little bit
too much because I loved and stilldo love one certain sectioned off corner of

(01:15:32):
Star Wars so much that I wantedit to be in the main lore so
bad that I just did myself alittle dirty not too dirty, but like
you know, oh yeah, youjust set your expectations. Yeah, yeah,
no, that that's how like Iwas. I was pretty excited for
the accolade. I just feel justslightly underwhelmed, you know, But it

(01:15:53):
doesn't mean I'm disinterested. Yeah,because we were thinking what Night Sisters like
when they first announced the project NightsSisters, maybe, like when we didn't
know anything about it. I thinkthat's still up in the air though.
You never know. There's still there'sstill some characters that that are on the
poster that we haven't seen yet.Yeah, you know what I mean.

(01:16:13):
So that's a good point. Yeah, So dang, that'd be the that'd
be crazy if the Night Sisters werearound already. Right, So what do
you what are you scoring it?First two episodes? First two episodes,
So I'm gonna give episode one likea three seven, and then I'll get
episode two like a three to two. So we're talking like a three point

(01:16:34):
three to five average. I thinkI'll go three. The one box you
have to check off for me whenI'm rating something Star Wars is that I
need to feel like I'm in theStar Wars universe, which sure that goes
without saying, but you never knowwhat can happen with writers and directors,
and I definitely felt like I wasin the Star Wars universe. They're going

(01:16:54):
for something new, you know,and I think that's that's like probably my
favorite part of it is that likeit it does feel like fresh. If
this is taking this is taking placeoutside of the Skywalker saga one hundred years
before the Phantom Menace, it shouldfeel like a little different. And I'm
definitely interested in the rest. Ijust wasn't blown away by it, and

(01:17:15):
I have, like, you know, my nitpicks here and there. I
definitely don't think the show is awful, and I don't think it's that all
that great either to warrant such anonline like discourse and argument over you know,
but a show, the Star Warsshow can be perfect in our eyes,

(01:17:36):
and you're still gonna have the samediscord or discourse, if not worse
for something that we think is perfect. You know. Yeah, it's it's
fine, it's good. It's definitelylike as average as it can possibly get
for now. Yeah, I think, maybe yeah, one way to say
it. But but again, it'sstill so fun to just banter and just

(01:18:00):
like theorize about Star Wars in generaland just having like new content to consume.
That's why, that's why I'm here. And it's pretty sick too.
But I think it's every Tuesday atsix pm. It's like it has a
like a standard time. Well,I guess nine pm, nine pm for
me? Yeah? Is it ninepm for me? Or is it six?
No, it's got to be it'sgot to be six pm Pacific.

(01:18:20):
That makes more sense. Like whydrop a show at three pm in the
afternoon on the West Coast? Allright? Hell, yeah, that'll do
it for this pot any anything elsefrom you? No, I don't think
so. I really hope we geta big, a big twist in the
plot and you know, maybe oneone or two big cameos or some new

(01:18:42):
character to fall in love with,you know, that would be I hope
Soul survives. I don't unlikely,but yeah, no, I know what
you're just in or a new characterto hate, because if you make a
good villain, good villain villain,a good villain is key for for most

(01:19:02):
for most media. I'd say,did they ever say made the Force be
with you? Like once? Andthey did? Okay, my fault the
no Nostra did in the Temple once? Okay? Yeah, they first assigned
sold to go out and investigate.But she said it like very delayed,
like I didn't think she was gonnasay but I felt she was gonna say
it, and she was like,but she kind of muttered, it's like

(01:19:25):
made it. That's interesting, Butall right, that'll do it for us,
folks made it this far. Thankyou so much for listening. We
will be chatting. I don't knownext time we'll be chatting about the back
light, but we'll see. Sowho knows about the next one. Next
po's gonna be episode one thirty.That's pretty fun, So folks, stay
tuned and we will catch you guysnext time. So peace, peace the River