July 2, 2024 • 47 mins
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One of folks and welcome to theKibriculture episode one thirty with myself, Joe,
Deebok and t Bones Pomony. Todaywe're just chatting episodes three and four
of the Act Lite and the discourseis hot indeed, so stick around.
Be sure to check us on socials, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, letterbox.
Before we get started, Aaron,how you doing. It's like,
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I feel like this is the mostconsistent we've been, Like last time we
recorded it was the first two episodes. Two weeks later, we're doing episodes
three and four. I think episodefive comes out tomorrow. What I'm saying
is that it hasn't been a tonof times since we since we recorded last.
But anything new, No, nota whole lot new, just uh,
you know, me and me andmy roommate, my buddy. Still
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getting real heavy in the magic gatheringgetting played like a freaking two and a
half hour game yesterday. It was. It was intense, so it was
super fun, just surviving work,keeping up with the landscape outside the yard,
like a big yard or anything.But I think I mentioned it on
our last episode, like we're partof the homeowners Association, so we have
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to maintain, you know, abeauty standard, so to speak, of
the outside part of the property.So that's been nice, feeling very adult
doing that kind of stuff, youknow, starting our own little garden in
the backyard. And yeah, it'sbeen fun. Not a whole lot else
new for me. What about you, man, How you doing? I'm
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doing good? But brother, Igotta tell you something. It is hot
and why see, you know,it is fucking ridiculous. Asn't hit one
hundred yet, but it's like superthick and like super humid out there.
The heat is completely different from livingin California. But it's something that low
key no one really tells you,is that New York summers are just awful.
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You know. I'm really lucky though, because I have like a brand
spanking new window ac unit and it'sbeen saving me this summer a ton.
I feel like I kind of delayedon buying it, but I think I
got it just like right on time. Like it was starting to heat up
till like seventy five eighty and Iwas like, oh fuck, I can
feel it coming, like summer's approaching. It's really crazy out there, but
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you know, getting through it.Besides the weather, watching shows and movies.
Of course, I just watched bothInside Out movies. Those are both
very touching, like you know,classic Pixar stuff. It's like very enjoyable
kids movies, but there's stuff foradults to pick out of both of them.
But watched this other movie yesterday calledKinds of Kindness, and if anybody
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has watched Poor Things, that waslike his big movie last year. I
didn't like this one that much.Wasn't really for me. They split it.
It was like it was like almosta three hour movie, and they
split it into like three different movieswith like it's the same cast all throughout,
but once they're done with like onelittle mini part of the movie,
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they like do a whole new storyand each actor is like a different character
this time around. It's very weird, and I liked it that they tried
going for it, but I don'tknow, it's I think it's quite a
step down from Four Things, TheBoys season four, Rocks House, the
Dragons season two is pretty sick,and The Bear. Season three of The
Bear premieres later this week and I'mprobably gonna binge all of it, so
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we'll see how it goes. There'sdefinitely content to indulge in for the month
of June. It's just a funsummer. There's a lot of good stuff
coming out. Deadpool comes out inJuly, hopefully pot about that. It's
just a good summer. But that'sreally it's really all that's going on with
me. Quick quick news, andI'm gonna throw you for a loop on
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this one, Aaron, I don'tknow. I definitely didn't text you about
this, but I just want tosee if I can get a quick thought
out of you on this one.Ben Mendelssohn coming back as orson Krenic and
and or season two. MM.I did briefly see. I don't know
if it was Ben, men itmight have been, so I think what
I heard was like it was theydidn't name any actors in specific, but
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they were saying I don't know whereI sall, probably Instagram, but they
said something like some actors or actressesfrom Rogue one are coming back to Star
Wars to work on and or seasontwo. But I didn't know it was
Ben Mendelssohn. He'll be in He'llbe in season two V and or that's
awesome. Well, I would say, like first off, saying Krenick.
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Director Krenick came back as a character, but it wasn't Ben Mendelssohn. That
would be a whole other topic.But that's awesome. Ben Mendelsohn rocks.
I think he absolutely kills the role, does a great job at it.
And I just feel like that's veryfitting because I feel like that's gonna tell
us, Okay, well and orseason two because we already know the Indoor
season two is gonna be the lastseason, right, like they're only making
two seasons of it. Yeah,so that tells us like this is going
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to lead up to pretty much whereRogue one starts, Like inter Season two
is probably gonna end where Rogue onestarts, which is awesome. But how
they tell the story or how muchBen Mendelssohn's in it, or you know,
the character is in it, Idon't know, but that's awesome news.
No, Yeah, and what yousaid too, it's like, you
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know how Rogue one kind of ends, and it's a perfect like lead into
a new hope. I think that'swhat they want to do with Indoor season
two, is that, like theseries finale will be a perfect lead up
to because Rogue one opens up withI think with Cassian. Oh no,
no, no, no, itopens up with it opens up with there
on that planet where Krenick meets Mad'sMichaelson. Yeah yeah, and he he
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he like found out that there mightbe a leak. Oh if it ends
like that, like he's on hisway to go see Galen, that'd be
kind of tight. Yeah. Likethe very very last just momentary shot is
like the you know, the dark, cloudy skies, the tall grass waving
in the air. You see forhis white coat, you know, fluttering
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in the wind, like if someonelike if if casting in his crew like
somehow to obtain the information that Galenis like funneling info to them. And
then it ends with like Krenick obtainingthat info because he got some of the
rebels to give it up. Yeah. I would like that. I would
like that actually, And and thatwould just be dope for just like Star
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Wars in general, because I feellike, for the most part, a
lot of what they've been trying todo, minus a few projects including the
Accolytes so far, is just kindof like filling holes in between major projects,
right, like filling the gaps.And they did fantastic doing that with
Rogue one. So if they doit with and Or, I think that
would just be appropriate. You know, that'd be cool. No, And
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I really liked uh like Ben Mendelssohn, not only just as an actor,
but like he's he's great and uhin Rogue one. So yeah, this
article came from you know, yougot to Try and credit came from the
playlist. I think it's legit.I don't think this is a rumor,
so looking forward to it. Yeah, that's all. That's that's the only
piece of news that I wanted toto throw at you. And we got
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a little more uh Star Wars Outlawsgameplay, which looks pretty sick. I'm
not gonna lie. I'm definitely lookingfor Yes, that's not too far away.
Yeah, So I watched a clipthe other day of for One Day.
They showed a clip of like somesome combat in space, which obviously
looks cool. But the thing thatreally like kind of blew my mind was
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they they did gameplay of you flyingfrom space and landing onto a planet and
there's like no loading screen or anything. Right. I was just like,
holy fuck. The way that Isee it, I'm like, okay,
they're they're skipping out on a loadingscreen. But part of the gameplay is
like you fly through like a reallythick layer of clouds, and I'm like,
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okay, maybe maybe there's like alittle bit of like loading time.
It's to load like the planet,you know what I mean. It's kind
of like it's kind of similar tolike an Elder Ring or like some of
the Dark Souls games where you gothrough the fog, you know what I
mean, And there's that like kindof it's not super long, but it's
like that's the loading screen, youknow what I mean, Yeah, of
you going into the next room orplanet or whatever it might be. And
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I think like a bunch of gamesdo like little tricks like that where it
seems like it's not a loading screen, but it really is. Yeah,
Like I feel like like walking throughdoors and games it does that, or
one of your character has to crawlthrough really small spaces and it takes you,
like it like a minute or two, you know, So especially if
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the game starts like lagging a littlebit while you're doing that, You're like,
Okay, this is definitely a loadingscreen. They're just doing better at
hiding it. Yeah, but no, Yeah, Stars Outlaws looks like it's
it's gonna be fun. There's alittle bit of discourse around that too,
you know, yeahn wars. Yeah, that was a nice little news segment.
But before we get to talk inthese first two episodes, let's just
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take a quick break for some ads. Okay, so Akla episodes three and
four, Episode three being titled Destiny. I was kind of thrown off by
this one. Can't lie to you, uh, just because the way that
episode two ended, We ended withthe kil Knaka, and I thought we
were just gonna start going into it, like I thought we were gonna go
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from episode two and then go wherethey ended up in episode four just immediately.
So I I didn't think this wasfiller. I thought it was like
episode three was a good episode,but well quote unquote good but no,
I you know, I liked itfor the most part. What I thought
was pretty interesting was there a covenof witches, And like I was like,
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honestly, like really starry eyed whenI first saw this, because I
thought they were it was like theearly workings of the Night Sisters. But
it's not. I mean maybe maybesomewhere down the line, but like I
think they even said like they werein interviews saying like, no, these
aren't the Knight Sisters, but itvery much gave that vibe just because of
the fact they were saying that theywere a coven of witches, you know,
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so, and they were using likea different like a different version of
the Force or something called the Thread, which I mean, I I cool
enough, and I like this likelittle interaction in the back and forth between
Ocean and May, like they're twinsand one of them wants to be a
Jedi and the other one kind ofjust wants to stay behind like a little
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bit of light and dark in thatsense, and they kind of contrast each
other really well. I thought thatwas cool. I think what this episode
does pretty well is just showing you, like a different perspective on Like it
made me think about Phantom Menace rightwhere like Qui Gon, he doesn't take
Anakin from Shmid or anything. Isthat her name Shemi Anakin's mom? Yeah,
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Shmi Smid Skywalker. Okay, Shmijust sounds weird to say. I
don't know if it's it sounds likelike like like Peter Pan or some shit.
It's like when they do it inthe prequels, it's almost like like
they're just doing it so that theythey're trying to like save the universe or
whatever, and like this is likethe right thing to do. But then
when you look at it, likefrom this perspective, it's like like they
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don't want to give up their kidsto go become Jedi. But it kind
of just seems like like it's likethat joke where where Jedi is like,
oh, these fools are taking children, Like what the fuck are they doing?
You know, it just takes takesthat joke and it just kind of
turns into like this serious thing wherelike, oh, there's four sensitive children,
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Like you have no choice. Youhave to give them to us because
we have to train them to becomeJedi. Like I said, it's just
a different perspective and a different liketake on it, just from you know,
not from the Jedi's point of view, but from like the person that
it's happening to. And I thoughtthat was like pretty interesting, but it
does kind of paint the Jedi inlike this kind of negative light. And
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of course the Internet was not happywith this, but I personally was like,
could they have done more with it? Like I think it's an interesting
idea, but could they have donemore? Maybe, but I think it's
done well enough. But did youcare at all for like, uh,
this this bit of the episode?Yeah, I definitely Like while it was
happening, I was like, mythoughts just like instantly started, you know,
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racing about it. Definitely thought abouthow the internet would feel. Definitely
thought about that kind of running jokeabout how the Jedi like just kidnapped kids
and like they don't get consent fromyou know, their their mothers or their
parents or whatever it is. Buthonestly, if you actually like watch the
scene, like and you listen towhat Osha says, like they didn't force
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her to join them. She wantedto. So it's like, yeah,
is that how many other young wingsor young kids had this? Has that
happened to throughout the history of theJedi in Star Wars? Like, I
think for the majority of the forthe majority of them, they're not like
being kidnapped. You know, likemaybe sometimes they're in a situation where it's
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like it's life or death and they'reyou know, there's some sort of a
sailin or assassin trying to kill them, and then the Jedi just happens to
be there. And they save themfrom that, you know, and then
they realize that they're force said whateverit is, and then also like the
whole you know, dathamir Thing NightSisters of Dathamir Like, I definitely initially
when they they said witches and like, based off of their behavior and the
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dialogue and all that, I definitelyinstantly thought of the Night Sisters. But
I was like, nah, there'sno way these are the Night Sister sisters
because for me personally, I thinkthat it would have been much more blaringly
obvious if they were the Night Sisters, Like look what they did in Ahsoka,
Like that was obvious that she wasn'tthat Morgan Elsbeth was a Night Sister,
right? You had the green likethe green or the green smoke,
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whatever you want to call it,coming up. They made it obvious enough
to the point where like, oh, you know those are those are Night
Sisters. But I think this isjust another After I have the initial thought,
it's like, no, I thinkthis is just another coven or group
of people in the you know,huge universe that is Star Wars that know
the force, but it understand theforce in a different way, and they
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they define the force in a differentway. And I think that's another thing
that the internet's super in up upin arms about, is like, like
some of the reactions or like thecomments that I've seen, is like,
I can't believe that they're just totallyredefining what the force is. Like we've
you know, in every other thingStar Wars, Star Wars where they talk
about the force, it's like it'sthis living energy that you know, surrounds
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us, penetrate just and binds us, you know, whatever it is,
it's in all living things. There'sa living force. There's the cosmic force.
Right. Usually for the most part, the definitions have been the same
of the force throughout all of StarWars content. But I don't think that
there's anything wrong with creating a projectwhere there's a group of people that our
force wielders or are tuned with theForce, but define it in a different
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way way for themselves. Like Idon't think the project or the show is
trying to recreate what the force is, you know, because that's why we
love Star Wars. The Force isawesome, right, It's a huge reason
for it. But I don't thinkthat's what they're trying to do with this
project. And I think people arejust taking out a little bit too far.
It did irk me a little bit, where like the fact that they
did redefine it just for the show'spurpose, redefine what, like what the
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force is like or like how likehow it works, right, because they
define it as like it's this massivethread and you can you can pull on
it to I don't know, likechange, you know, you use it
for power or whatever, right,like m m. That's not the best
way to explain it, but that'slike the essence of how they explained it,
I think. And I feel likeeven the Knight Sisters would define the
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Force in their own way too though, right right, because they don't even
define it as the force, likethey they are definitely using the force,
but I don't think I've ever heardthem, like the Night Sisters themselves actually
define it as the force, butthey're definitely using it. It's their own
witchcraft, but it's the force,right right, right, right? No,
that makes sense, And I hearyou on that for sure. I
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would. I would just say thoughthat like maybe it's not a redefinition of
it, but more so like whatthe force is like to them, Yeah,
and that's what I'm That's what I'mtrying to get at, And that's
kind of my argument to those peoplewho are saying they're trying to redefine it,
you know, and I think forthe intensive purposes of the show,
it's totally fine. And but Ithink also there's something else that I would
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see online because I don't know howto take this. I would just say,
like, it's a no, y'allare tripping over this. But they're
saying that since the mother created oceanMay through the threat or through the force,
it makes Anakin as a character likeless special. Yep, that's That's
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one of the other big things thatI wanted to talk about about this episode,
like how so they don't say it, and in like they don't say
how sh Like the mother says,well, I created them, and then
the other mother of the two say, well I I birthed them, right,
so the yeah, I carry them. So the insinuation is that they
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were born from the force, butthe mother had something to do with it,
therefore saying that these two children wereborn of mediclorians, like just like
Anakin was. But they don't actuallysay that in the show. People are
just taking it that way. Andbut I get it, Like I get
how that's frustrating because it's it's peoplecan see it as like making Anakin's specialness
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and his uniqueness less unique of beingthe chosen one, right, Like that
totally negates him being the chosen onefor some for some reason. Right.
And you know there's also like inthat sequence of scenes, there's the hole,
like they're walking up there doing theceremony, right and they're in like
the gold gold in the dark blue, and you know they're saying like the
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mother says like something about like therebeing life or something. So I don't
know what that necessarily means about thetwo, but this feeling that I got
from watching this scene with them,like the what do they call it,
not the ceremony, the ascension,Like are they going to just do something
similar to like a diad in theforest kind of like Luke and or not
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Luke sorry, Ray and Kylo,Like I really hope they don't, and
I don't think that's where they're going, But I just I had this like
itch in my brain that just kindof like I had to scratch about that,
you know, because they do kindof seem like one's light, one's
dark and May has clearly been touchedby the dark side when she was younger
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somehow, because she's like she's mean, bro, she's like happy with Osha,
like at all. Yeah, Ino, she Yeah, we can
get to like how their relationship progresses. But no, I like that,
like you mentioned it earlier. Justto go back to the whole Jedi kidnapping
kids, Oshow wanted to become aJedi, right, and then May was
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like fully against it. And Idon't think like they didn't have to go,
right, Like May didn't have togo so yeah, No, I
think that they still had the option. Well, I know, like if
we're talking about like the actual sequenceslike or like the chronology of the show,
I'm sure you want to talk aboutfire, Well, ho on on,
we'll we'll get there. We'll getthere, we'll get there. I
thought. I just thought it wasfunny, like when when Osha was getting
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tested and she was like trying tolie to fail the test. That was
good. I did like that,And I like the homage like Anakin's test.
Yeah, And then in regards tothe Diad thing, I could I
could for sure see that being true, and that's like one of the reasons
why, Like maybe these Jedi kindof like sensed that and they're like,
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we we need a piece of thisfor ourselves, you know, right,
like we want a stronger half ofthe die ad it if they want to,
you know, if they if theyare like the the big power in
the universe at that point, It'slike that thing that Palpatine says in Uh
in Revenge of the Sith. Peoplewith power are like afraid to lose it.
So that's why they tried, Likeif they are a Diad, that's
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why like in Dara's here and likethese four Jedi, they're trying to maintain
that having that power. Yeah,you know, yeah, yeah, that
makes sense. So if they ifthey could try to like you know,
go for something like that, maybewe'll see. Yes, let's let's talk
about the fire. This is thisis the only part of the episode that
like really really crushed me. Wasbecause like, as the episode goes on,
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OSHA's gonna go become a Jedi andMay is uh going to stop her,
And the way she does it isby burning down her room and ceiling
off the doorway shut. And Iwas like, Okay, that's fine,
but next thing, you know,like a couple more minutes go by and
the entire compound is burning to theground, and I'm like, this entire
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place, like most of it ismade of stone, Like how was burning
to a crisp right now? Andthe entire time my head was like,
yeah, maybe these guys that arelike going on about fires in space have
a point. I was like,this is like no, I'm just I'm
totally joking, Like this is differentthough, Yeah, we're not in space
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this time, like we're on theground. Fire can spread, yeah,
and it's And it's also like whenI had the thought before the third episode
came out of like oh, likeI had the thought, Okay, they're
going to go back to the originaldefining point where like May supposedly died and
obviously we know she didn't die,but like the whole beginning of like what
Soul was talking about with I rescuedrescued Osho from a fire, right,
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they do end up recreating that scene, and I in my head, I
thought it was going to be likethey were in a forest or something and
there was this giant fire because oflike you know, like a gunfight or
something. But it's like, no, it's literally because May wanted to burn
her little like notebook, and thenjust the whole thing's ablaze and you're like,
what, it's a huge compound too. Yeah. No, I was
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like, what the fuck? Howdoes this happen? And to me,
I'm just like, okay, there'show could how could this tiny little lamp
wipe out not only burn down thecompound? Like burning down the compound is
one thing, but then everyone init is dead and these are these are
force wielding people, by the way, who got inside ahead of a Jedi
youngling. Like first first reaction whenyou first see it, it's like,
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what the fuck? How is thispossible? And then you try to think
about a little more and I'm justlike, okay, I hope that you
know, obviously like Osha didn't door no, not Osha. It May
didn't do any of this, Likenone of these people are dead because of
Osha and burning down the place,and the fire didn't spread like that off
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of this one little lantern. LikeI'm hoping that something else happened that we
just haven't seen quite yet. Thatalso just kind of depends given given the
given the events of episode four,because it that wasn't explained yet. Light
Light Episode four st boilers the endingof episode three. I still think we're
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missing parts of the parts of thepuzzle there, you know. You know,
it's either like someone got possessed,you know, and then like had
one of the Jedi just like kindof go at everybody in there, one
of the four Jedi, or likemaybe in Dhara and and Torbin fucking did
something because I just kill them all, yeah, or may kill them all,
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may kill them all possibly being possessed. I don't know. Yeah,
I guess. I guess we'll see. Well, we'll need patience for that
one. But yeah, that thatwas absurd. I was like, no
fucking way, I mean, andI do agree with you. I do.
There's definitely like a piece missing forsure, But how they're gonna play
that, I have no idea,like somebody else did something though that's not
just fire. I agree with thatoverall. I dug the episode at this
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point, though I still have theshow at like a constant three bad.
Did you have any other thoughts onepisode episode three? The only other two
things that I would say is goingjust briefly going back to the whole like
being born of Midi Klorean's thing andthe twins being born of the fours.
Like. The other thing that peopleare saying is like and I've read the
Plagus book like three times and it'slike Darth Plagus and you know, you
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even know it from Revenge of theSith, Like dark Plagus was obsessed with
manipulating Midi Koreans and even in thebook he couldn't do anything like that.
He could he could not recreate lifefrom strictly from Midi Koreans. So that's
another reason why Star Wars fans arelike so like heated about the whole thing.
But again, they hasn't fully beenexplained yet. I don't even know
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if they will fully explain that wholething. And then the last thing I'll
say about that episode, like Idefinitely agree with your score is very average,
is the ending. Like I don'tunderstand the ending at all. The
only thing after watching it like asecond time, was like, okay,
like, so what did they justshow that May survived? We already know
that May survived. Why do youneed to show that again? Or this
is like you know it's it's it'sher escaping from the compound, right,
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and she goes back to the treeto look for Osha or whatever. But
that's that missing piece that we're lookingfor to tie this whole thing together,
like some other devious act happened,and then at some point in the future
episode they're gonna go back to theending of episode three and then tie that
together and then wrap it up.But like, I still didn't really like
the ending, Like it didn't leaveme on a cliffhanger or anything, you
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know what I mean. It didn'tleave like, oh, you can't wait
to see what happens at episode four. Like I didn't feel that way at
all. I mean, I stillwas excited for episode four, but not
like because of the ending of theepisode. No, I think that it
just has me, like I haveenough intrigue to return to each one.
I just hope that like it allties together at the end. If the
fire, if the compound did burnlike if by the end of this season
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and the compound did burn down becauseof that little thing, I will be
a pet upset. Yeah you fu. Yeah, let's hope that's not the
case, because that's just cheap,that's just copping out, you know.
Okay, episode four I only watchedit once, but I think there's just
one one big thing here that weshould start with, and it did happen
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at the beginning of the episode.Let's talk about master Kiyati Monday. That's
how you say his name round KiyatiMonday y mondy. Yeah. So okay,
So my first initial thought I actuallylike saw this episode. I didn't
get to watch it on on premiereday or premiere night, and it took
me a couple of days to getaround to seeing it. So I'd already
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known that, Like I think,I already knew that Kyati Monday was gonna
be in the in the show insome in some respects or in some form,
but I wasn't like looking for itor like waiting for it or anything.
And then sure enough he has,like you know, he gets his
quick little cameo and he has likea line or two. But I'm not
gonna lie to you. Had Inot like guess that he had been it,
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I wouldn't have immediately assumed that thatwas him like I would have.
I would have just thought that,Okay, this is like we're in a
different era of Star Wars, Likeobviously this is probably just another Yeah,
he's not the only of his speciesor race or whatever. I guess my
only criticism is like why do it? You know what, why why have
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him there as Kiyati Monday, likeunless you want to like try to rope
that back in later like it,and if you didn't include him at all,
like none of this would be likenone of the Kyoti Monday discourse would
be online to begin with. Butyeah, I know the only thing that
I drew a conclusion to is thatthey want to try to connect into the
prequels somehow. And I'm guessing likein this era of Star Wars, like
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you know it, like we brieflytext about it and you were saying,
how like he has that line inI don't know which movie it's in,
but it's Phantom Menace Fantas because whenthey figure figure out about Darth Maul,
and uh, what was the thingthat he says? So he says something
along the lines it is not anexact quote, is something along the lines
of what the Sith have been extinctfor a millennia? Like it's like it's
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like when he's in the hologram,it's a hologram of him, he's not
actually in the Jedi Council Chamber.Yeah, so how long is the millennium
in Star Wars, and he's welland actual millennia is a thousand years a
thousand years, okay, And yousaid A couple of good things about this
too, is that like they haven'tused the word sith in in the Acolyte
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yet, and it's possible that likehe does know, but for whatever reason,
he's keeping it a secret. Andlike maybe the Jedi just like they
like fuck up at at the endof the season somehow and he just has
to keep it to himself. Butbut yeah, so I don't I don't
know what they're what their angle ishere. But at the same time,
a lot of people are like flippingout because, uh, like the Wikipedia.
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Everyone knows Wikipedia. If you knowStar Wars, you know Wikipedia changed
his birth date for the show.It's like that seems like a lot of
work, Like why what Well,it doesn't seem like a lot of work,
but like why why do it?Like why do it? Yeah?
But no, people are like likegenuinely upset over Kiati Money's birthday. And
I'm like, I couldn't even havetold you when he was born at any
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point, Like he's he's a coollooking Jedi, but that's it like I
didn't. I don't know, Idon't know. It's it's kind of nuts.
Yeah, they haven't used the wordsith in the show yet, but
I'm like, you, guys,this is it's like you haven't said it
yet, but you probably will sayit soon. Like yeah, I'm so
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like on the fence about the wholething, Like yes, they like they
haven't said sith yet, but obviouslywe insinuate that whoever's in the mask is
a Sith. I guess you don'tneed to, like, I guess just
because you wield a red lightsaber doesn'tmean that you are a Sith. But
for most people who know Star Wars, if they wield a red lightsaber,
there Sith or some wielder of thedark side of the Force. Right,
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So the fact that they haven't saidyet, yes, that's like, it
does change it. It does changethings a bit. And I know that
this whole kyati mondy thing is.I mean, it upsets me too,
Like it does upset me, butnot to the point where I'm like,
Okay, well, they haven't resolvedanything yet. There could be further explanations,
like you're saying, but if theydon't resolve the issue somehow continuing the
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story. I could definitely personally beupset, and I could understand why other
people are upset that pretty much whatthey have done, like whether it's intentional
or not, is taken something fromthe sequel trilogy, which over time has
actually become quite sorry, prequel trilogythat's gained a lot of fanship over the
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past, you know, five tenyears, where it used to be one
of the least favorites or at leastPhantom Menace. But essentially what they've done
is they've taken something from the prequeltrilogy and totally invalidated it because if he
so, I look this up too, but I don't know when they change
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the Wikipedia page. But according tothe Wikipedia page in Phantom Menace, he
is sixty years old. And thenfor what we know of this timeline is
it is one hundred years before thePhantom Menace, so he couldn't be alive,
right, so that they would haveto explain. But we also don't
necessarily know the timeline of the Acolyte, like we have a general idea it's
in the High Republic, probably closeto the end of the High Republic.
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But I guess what I'm just sayingis like I understand the frustration, but
I'm not sitting here saying like,oh my god, like I need to
go online and fucking you know,throw goddamn fucking temper tantrum about it,
you know what I mean. Butall overall, I love like seeing him
again, and yeah, I meanit's it's just like this is just another
one of those things where I'm like, why do we need like what's the
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point, like from from both sides, from the production side of it and
also in decision making, but alsofrom the fan base, like what's what's
the point of any of it?Just like just watch it. Show's not
over yet, There's four more episodes. Like like, sometimes I really don't
care about like having crazy cameos orlike you know, like Marvel level cameos
or Star Wars cameos. Like Ifeel like most like you know, like
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TV shows and movies they want todo for like nostalgic purposes, right right,
And sometimes it sometimes it can belike really fun and really cool.
But for this one, I'm justlike, are there, Like do you
like Yatti Munday like a lot?Yeah, I mean I do, But
it's not like, oh my god, you know, It's not like Luke
Skywalker coming at the end of fuckingMandalorian. The Mandalorian like that was awesome.
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Okay, how would you felt ifthey If they did it for like
Plokun, I would be a littleI would definitely be more excited about it,
But that's only because plo Kun hasa lot more like fleshing out of
his character, especially in Clone Wars. Clone Wars, Yeah, because he
was super close to Ahsoka, likereally looked up to plow Kuh and it
was kind of like his like Icould go to it and he time if
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I needed to talk to somebody,but was afraid to talk to other people
about it kind of person at leaston the council. Yeah, and there's
episodes where it's literally just like it'shim. He's in the entire episode,
like several episodes. So I woulddefinitely be more excited if that was him.
So yeah, I think what you'regetting out is like the decision making
is like why him of all ofall Star Wars characters that could potentially have
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a long lifespan? Right that arethat are that's like an alien if you
want to pick like an alien Jedicharacter of Star Wars. I feel like
there's like a good batch that youcould pick from that would have been a
cooler cameo than Kyoti Mundy Blocoon forexample. Yeah, there's like so many
other options, like they like Iwas saying earlier, like sometimes cameos can
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be fun if they did one,let's say, for like Yoda, that
I feel like that would be likea little like you know, it's like
that, Yeah, this is liketoo much. You know, like not
only have we seen plenty of Yoda, but and if you but if you
were to do a cameo, thiswould just not be appropriate put him in
here. Yeah. No, itjust feels like that that would that would
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feel like like a cheap cameo.I'm like, come on, guys,
but at least be alive, youknow what I mean. Yeah? No,
And he and Kyati Mondy just looksweird as hell with like brown hair.
You know, it is a littleit's it's pretty awkward to watch,
you know, it's so off putting, Like he has like a long brown
ponytail and like brown facial hair.I'm just like, this guy looks weird,
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Like he already looked like strange enough, like when you first watch the
prequel movies, You're like, damn, that's a weird looking alien, you
know, but now you just likethat guy's got a cranium. Now it's
just like your image of him isso like vivid because of how he is.
And then you go and you watchthis and you're like, Okay,
now I really can't get it outof my head. Yeah, I know,
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why why Kyoti Mondy? I guessthere there's there's just so many things
that are happening in the show,and I'm just like, why did you
do this? Like they they couldhave even picked like which would be kind
of like really cool. Actually therewas a Jedi in the Master and Apprentice
book with uh it's like young youngObi Wan that I think is even old
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old enough at the time, like, but he was a big character in
book. Like they could have evendone that, and that would have been
the first time he'd ever been onthe screen, and then maybe the fans
would have been like, yo,that's dope, and maybe stop causing so
much havoc online. And that's theother thing too with his cameo, is
like the fact that there was alreadycause it got spoiled for me too,
because I didn't watch for four fourthepisode till probably like Friday or Saturday.
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The fact that there was already somuch discourse and I already had it spoiled,
it just like ruined it. It'sjust like, well, this isn't
exciting because people already hate the show, so it's like even if they do
do a cameo, it's like,well whatever, you know, it's not
adding anything. Yeah, yeah,it simply just doesn't doesn't mean much.
And then yeah, there was someonethat I think it was this episode where
there there is a Jedi like kindof like in the background. I think
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it's when they're when they're on Iforget the name of the planet where they
find Kalmaka, but it co far. Yeah, this Jedi is part of
the squad that looks like Plokun,but it's not plo Kun. Similar looking
face mask though I might have togo back and check that out. And
they they like confirmed that too,like they they straight up came out and
said like, no, this isn'tPlokun, this is someone else. Yeah,
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I know, I'm I'm yeah KyatiMundy. Like I didn't personally care
for it, and then people areflipping out over it, which just makes
me like it even less and I'mjust like, dude, this is maybe
we should just do like all originalcharacters, you know, like like we
don't we don't need like sometimes cameosare just like like I said, like
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cameos or whatever, you know,but especially when you use it, just
like like why'd you pick this character? I don't know, Like I don't
know. Yeah. The only thelast thing I'll say about Kiyati Mondy is
like and kind of going with likeyour earlier theory, so to speak about
like somehow Kyati Mundy like covers Yeahexactly, no, but like if so,
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kind of what you're saying was like, well, what if he did
know, you know, going backto the quote that he says in Phantom
Menace, maybe he did know thatthey did return, but something else happened,
right, The only possible thing thatI could see happening if that is
the case, is that somehow towardsthe end of the show or at the
end of the show, like whoever'sin the Dark Mask ends up killing all
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the Jedi who were involved with themission and may and like they're all dead
for some reason or just like whatever, and then Kyati Munday's the one who
ends up killing the person that's inthe mask, and then he's the only
one left to tell the tale.That's the only way I can see that
happening. But it's not gonna happen. There's no way. That's how the
show goes. He has to takethe secrets of the grave. Yeah,
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he has to take it. Hehas to take it to when he gets
assaulted by Clones, gets freaking Ordersixty six, and he's like, damn,
I should have let them know.Damn, none of this would have
been happening if if I maybe wouldhave told people, you guys, I
killed the Sith about about one hundredyears ago. I starting to think I
should have told somebody, like maybethe scales of the force wouldn't be so
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uh tossed a certain way if Ibalance Damn Kiyati Mondy fucked up big time,
big time. Okay, But weget to what is it co far
right, and they introduce a Iwas a fan of this new little guy
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that they introduced, the Tracker.The Tracker, Yeah, I was like,
this is a pretty sick new uhStar Wars alien to bring into the
into the fold, just a justa Rascal, Little Rascal, little mouse
kind of hybrid thing. Yeah.Yeah, but yeah, they get to
co far. They're trying to findkil Naka. He he was sick at
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the end of at the end ofepisode two, and I was really hoping
to see more of him in action, but they just don't ripped to kil
Knaka. Uh, they really playedhim. I I kind of had a
feeling that you were probably let downby this as well, because we didn't
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really get to see him in actionat all. Uh, maybe maybe in
a flashback maybe, you know,I know you were talking about hoping to
see like a more fully realized likelike Wookie Jedi, like some why is
his name escaping me Gunge, likea little like an adult Gungee in action.
That would have been sick. Butnope, They're just gonna slice him
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up and he's dead. Yeah.And then after after kil Knaka dies,
the episode just goes on and thenwe get the Syth with the with the
teeth mask kind of does just doeslike this creepy little float down. I
I thought it was kind of funny. You know, he ignites his red
lightsaber and then force pushes like twentyJedi and to an opposite direction that's pretty
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sick force push I suppose. Yeah, I can't lie to you. The
episode just kind of ends there bythe by the end of this episode,
I was I was pretty let downand like it ends in a cliffhanger.
This is like a cliffhanger that didn'texactly make me like pumped to watch the
new episode. I mean, episodefive, hopefully is just gonna be like
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go, go go, and justlike a ton of like great action and
more of that Star Wars action thatthe show delivers on. I just hope
the sword plays sick and I guesswe'll see how it goes. But what
did you think about the final momentsof the episode, yeah, or just
the episode in general? Yeah,yeah, I mean definitely like still still
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same same average score for the episode. One thing I did notice, I
felt like they made it pretty obvious. But in the beginning of the episode,
where you're like when you're first goinginto kil knacka's a little refuge.
I don't know if you notice,but there's the same symbols of like the
witch coven, like the same onethat's that's on the forehead of May are
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on the walls on there, andat first I was like, okay,
like is kil Knaka like involved withthem at all? But I think I
think what happened was that was alreadythere, like those like inscriptions or writings
or whatever. We are already onthe wall. So maybe it is some
sort of ancient like used to besome ancient sanctuary for that witch coven.
But they played like the little eeriemusic around it, and then he saw
like kind of like a little redmist, you know, So that should
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be interesting to see if they liketack onto that a little bit more.
But yeah, I mean, andI honestly, in terms of the end
of the episode, like I kindof feel the opposite that you do.
Like I actually like I think theending of this episode was my favorite of
any endings of any of the episodesso far, just because I hope with
that cliffhanger that that they don't dowhat they did with episode two, like
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they left it on a hanger andthen totally didn't pick it up where you
know, they left off. Sowhat I'm hoping is that we just go
straight back into that action and hopefullythis is like kind of like a critical
mass point in the show for episodefive. I mean, who knows.
I mean, I just think itwould be awesome to see, like,
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like you said, some cool swordplay in the next episode between whoever's in
the Mask and then all those Jedi, and hopefully we get a reveal or
a little bit a little bit moreinformation about who's in the Mask. I
feel like that probably won't happen untilprobably like six or seven. The other
thing that I actually really did notlike about this episode is, and this
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is kind of one of my lasttalking points about this one, is May
just like randomly for no reason atall, just like totally like Turncoats.
She's just like, oh my gosh, I'm over this. That's fine,
And I'm like, what, like, you started this whole show and started
writing the first three episodes to makeus think that May is this villain,
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and she's just like, Eh,I'm gonna turn on this guy. See
yeah, You're like like what Likeimmediately like she was like, oh you
know what I saw that I didn'tknow Osha was still alive. I'm trying
to think, Okay, no,she couldn't have known that she was actually
alive, so that's fine. Butshe turned so quick and she changed her
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mind. Oh man, there's nointernal dialogue with her of like you know,
pondering back and forth about what's theright thing to do here. There's
no like moral discussion, dialogue,et cetera about why she changes her mind.
I mean, she could be fakingit. I don't know, but
I don't think that's the case.Like I think she wants to see her
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sister again, and she just randomlywants to do the right thing. And
you're just like, okay, bro, no, not to cop out,
especially when you like they're they're kindof set up to be at odds with
one another at when they're kids,right, you know, like I feel
like it would motivate you more tobe like on the other side of things,
because you know, your sister's alivewhen you when you kind of tried
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getting rid of her to go withthe Jedi at the end of that that
flashback episode, you know, yeah, it's like, oh, my sister's
alive now, and I kind of, well, I don't know. I
guess it's not super far fetched,but like it's I don't like it,
so the yeah, I don't either. And the only the one thing I'm
cooking up in my head right nowactually is like the one thing that I
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could see is that she is fakingit like it's it's just a fake.
It's a fake out towards the audiencebecause she has technically one Jedi left to
kill. She already killed Torben,she killed in Dara kill Knaka is dead.
But I don't know if she's theone that killed kil Naka. I
don't think she is. They madeit seem like you no, it wasn't
her. Probably yeah, it lookedlike he was killed by what she does.
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So the only thing that I couldsee happening is that she does want
to still kill Soul, but shehas to do it without a weapon.
So somehow she uses like she protectends like she's you know, switching sides,
and then she uses Osha against Soulto kill Soul somehow something along those
lines, and then they go fromthere. I don't know, but I
don't I doubt that's what's gonna happen. I think it's just gonna be the
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cheap cop out now if there's yeah, I agree, this is very last.
Everything everything about the show so faris just it's hard to like want
to try to get invested, getinvested, or like even even defend for
that matter, right, and it'slike again, even like every scene with
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the current timeline of May, likeoutside of the flashbacks like from like her
POV, Like all of those sceneswere just like so lacking like drama and
intensity. It's like, dude,you're the apprentice of a dark lord,
alleged dark lord. You don't evenknow who the dark lord is, and
you're just going on a killing spreeof master Jedi. Like I feel like
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these scenes should be a little bitmore intense, you know, but it's
just like classic Disney like happy musicin the background and you're just not feeling
it. You know. Again,I'm not gonna be too hasty. We
still got half of the show togo. No, Like, no,
I think it's fine. I thinkit's reasonable to be where we're at,
just because like like a lot ofthis stuff could pan out, Like we've
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said this like a couple times already. At the end of the episode,
it's like, Okay, well thishappened, but this could mean something else,
or that happened, this can meansomething else, and this can change
or it will be answered right atthe end of the show. There's also
a chance that like that's actually howit went down, and there's nothing else
to this scenario, which will bereally upsetting. You'll be like, god
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damn because at this point, becauseI like, you guys have a like
had a chance here, you know. Yeah, even at that point,
and if that is how this showends, at that point, you can't
even say that. Oh, like, the show is just like tailoring to
a new audience. And that's whywe don't like it. Our generation,
our group doesn't like it, becauseat that point, it's just like a
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bad storytelling. Yeah, it's stilla three. Yeah. Same. Hopefully
episode five two point nine to ninetydipping into the twos a little bit.
I mean, hopefully hopefully episode five'syou know, get a little boost on
that three score. But yeah,I agree with you, Hopefully it gets
better. That's all I have onthe episode. All Right, folks,
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thanks for listening. We'll be backwith episode one thirty one, possibly talking
about episodes five and six of TheAcolyte. But until then, we will
catch you guys next time. Sopeace, peace,
One of folks and welcome to theKibriculture episode one thirty with myself, Joe,
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Before we get started, Aaron,how you doing. It's like,
(00:37):
I feel like this is the mostconsistent we've been, Like last time we
recorded it was the first two episodes. Two weeks later, we're doing episodes
three and four. I think episodefive comes out tomorrow. What I'm saying
is that it hasn't been a tonof times since we since we recorded last.
But anything new, No, nota whole lot new, just uh,
you know, me and me andmy roommate, my buddy. Still
(00:58):
getting real heavy in the magic gatheringgetting played like a freaking two and a
half hour game yesterday. It was. It was intense, so it was
super fun, just surviving work,keeping up with the landscape outside the yard,
like a big yard or anything.But I think I mentioned it on
our last episode, like we're partof the homeowners Association, so we have
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to maintain, you know, abeauty standard, so to speak, of
the outside part of the property.So that's been nice, feeling very adult
doing that kind of stuff, youknow, starting our own little garden in
the backyard. And yeah, it'sbeen fun. Not a whole lot else
new for me. What about you, man, How you doing? I'm
(01:42):
doing good? But brother, Igotta tell you something. It is hot
and why see, you know,it is fucking ridiculous. Asn't hit one
hundred yet, but it's like superthick and like super humid out there.
The heat is completely different from livingin California. But it's something that low
key no one really tells you,is that New York summers are just awful.
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You know. I'm really lucky though, because I have like a brand
spanking new window ac unit and it'sbeen saving me this summer a ton.
I feel like I kind of delayedon buying it, but I think I
got it just like right on time. Like it was starting to heat up
till like seventy five eighty and Iwas like, oh fuck, I can
feel it coming, like summer's approaching. It's really crazy out there, but
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you know, getting through it.Besides the weather, watching shows and movies.
Of course, I just watched bothInside Out movies. Those are both
very touching, like you know,classic Pixar stuff. It's like very enjoyable
kids movies, but there's stuff foradults to pick out of both of them.
But watched this other movie yesterday calledKinds of Kindness, and if anybody
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has watched Poor Things, that waslike his big movie last year. I
didn't like this one that much.Wasn't really for me. They split it.
It was like it was like almosta three hour movie, and they
split it into like three different movieswith like it's the same cast all throughout,
but once they're done with like onelittle mini part of the movie,
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they like do a whole new storyand each actor is like a different character
this time around. It's very weird, and I liked it that they tried
going for it, but I don'tknow, it's I think it's quite a
step down from Four Things, TheBoys season four, Rocks House, the
Dragons season two is pretty sick,and The Bear. Season three of The
Bear premieres later this week and I'mprobably gonna binge all of it, so
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we'll see how it goes. There'sdefinitely content to indulge in for the month
of June. It's just a funsummer. There's a lot of good stuff
coming out. Deadpool comes out inJuly, hopefully pot about that. It's
just a good summer. But that'sreally it's really all that's going on with
me. Quick quick news, andI'm gonna throw you for a loop on
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this one, Aaron, I don'tknow. I definitely didn't text you about
this, but I just want tosee if I can get a quick thought
out of you on this one.Ben Mendelssohn coming back as orson Krenic and
and or season two. MM.I did briefly see. I don't know
if it was Ben, men itmight have been, so I think what
I heard was like it was theydidn't name any actors in specific, but
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they were saying I don't know whereI sall, probably Instagram, but they
said something like some actors or actressesfrom Rogue one are coming back to Star
Wars to work on and or seasontwo. But I didn't know it was
Ben Mendelssohn. He'll be in He'llbe in season two V and or that's
awesome. Well, I would say, like first off, saying Krenick.
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Director Krenick came back as a character, but it wasn't Ben Mendelssohn. That
would be a whole other topic.But that's awesome. Ben Mendelsohn rocks.
I think he absolutely kills the role, does a great job at it.
And I just feel like that's veryfitting because I feel like that's gonna tell
us, Okay, well and orseason two because we already know the Indoor
season two is gonna be the lastseason, right, like they're only making
two seasons of it. Yeah,so that tells us like this is going
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to lead up to pretty much whereRogue one starts, Like inter Season two
is probably gonna end where Rogue onestarts, which is awesome. But how
they tell the story or how muchBen Mendelssohn's in it, or you know,
the character is in it, Idon't know, but that's awesome news.
No, Yeah, and what yousaid too, it's like, you
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know how Rogue one kind of ends, and it's a perfect like lead into
a new hope. I think that'swhat they want to do with Indoor season
two, is that, like theseries finale will be a perfect lead up
to because Rogue one opens up withI think with Cassian. Oh no,
no, no, no, itopens up with it opens up with there
on that planet where Krenick meets Mad'sMichaelson. Yeah yeah, and he he
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he like found out that there mightbe a leak. Oh if it ends
like that, like he's on hisway to go see Galen, that'd be
kind of tight. Yeah. Likethe very very last just momentary shot is
like the you know, the dark, cloudy skies, the tall grass waving
in the air. You see forhis white coat, you know, fluttering
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in the wind, like if someonelike if if casting in his crew like
somehow to obtain the information that Galenis like funneling info to them. And
then it ends with like Krenick obtainingthat info because he got some of the
rebels to give it up. Yeah. I would like that. I would
like that actually, And and thatwould just be dope for just like Star
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Wars in general, because I feellike, for the most part, a
lot of what they've been trying todo, minus a few projects including the
Accolytes so far, is just kindof like filling holes in between major projects,
right, like filling the gaps.And they did fantastic doing that with
Rogue one. So if they doit with and Or, I think that
would just be appropriate. You know, that'd be cool. No, And
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I really liked uh like Ben Mendelssohn, not only just as an actor,
but like he's he's great and uhin Rogue one. So yeah, this
article came from you know, yougot to Try and credit came from the
playlist. I think it's legit.I don't think this is a rumor,
so looking forward to it. Yeah, that's all. That's that's the only
piece of news that I wanted toto throw at you. And we got
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a little more uh Star Wars Outlawsgameplay, which looks pretty sick. I'm
not gonna lie. I'm definitely lookingfor Yes, that's not too far away.
Yeah, So I watched a clipthe other day of for One Day.
They showed a clip of like somesome combat in space, which obviously
looks cool. But the thing thatreally like kind of blew my mind was
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they they did gameplay of you flyingfrom space and landing onto a planet and
there's like no loading screen or anything. Right. I was just like,
holy fuck. The way that Isee it, I'm like, okay,
they're they're skipping out on a loadingscreen. But part of the gameplay is
like you fly through like a reallythick layer of clouds, and I'm like,
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okay, maybe maybe there's like alittle bit of like loading time.
It's to load like the planet,you know what I mean. It's kind
of like it's kind of similar tolike an Elder Ring or like some of
the Dark Souls games where you gothrough the fog, you know what I
mean, And there's that like kindof it's not super long, but it's
like that's the loading screen, youknow what I mean, Yeah, of
you going into the next room orplanet or whatever it might be. And
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I think like a bunch of gamesdo like little tricks like that where it
seems like it's not a loading screen, but it really is. Yeah,
Like I feel like like walking throughdoors and games it does that, or
one of your character has to crawlthrough really small spaces and it takes you,
like it like a minute or two, you know, So especially if
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the game starts like lagging a littlebit while you're doing that, You're like,
Okay, this is definitely a loadingscreen. They're just doing better at
hiding it. Yeah, but no, Yeah, Stars Outlaws looks like it's
it's gonna be fun. There's alittle bit of discourse around that too,
you know, yeahn wars. Yeah, that was a nice little news segment.
But before we get to talk inthese first two episodes, let's just
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take a quick break for some ads. Okay, so Akla episodes three and
four, Episode three being titled Destiny. I was kind of thrown off by
this one. Can't lie to you, uh, just because the way that
episode two ended, We ended withthe kil Knaka, and I thought we
were just gonna start going into it, like I thought we were gonna go
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from episode two and then go wherethey ended up in episode four just immediately.
So I I didn't think this wasfiller. I thought it was like
episode three was a good episode,but well quote unquote good but no,
I you know, I liked itfor the most part. What I thought
was pretty interesting was there a covenof witches, And like I was like,
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honestly, like really starry eyed whenI first saw this, because I
thought they were it was like theearly workings of the Night Sisters. But
it's not. I mean maybe maybesomewhere down the line, but like I
think they even said like they werein interviews saying like, no, these
aren't the Knight Sisters, but itvery much gave that vibe just because of
the fact they were saying that theywere a coven of witches, you know,
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so, and they were using likea different like a different version of
the Force or something called the Thread, which I mean, I I cool
enough, and I like this likelittle interaction in the back and forth between
Ocean and May, like they're twinsand one of them wants to be a
Jedi and the other one kind ofjust wants to stay behind like a little
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bit of light and dark in thatsense, and they kind of contrast each
other really well. I thought thatwas cool. I think what this episode
does pretty well is just showing you, like a different perspective on Like it
made me think about Phantom Menace rightwhere like Qui Gon, he doesn't take
Anakin from Shmid or anything. Isthat her name Shemi Anakin's mom? Yeah,
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Shmi Smid Skywalker. Okay, Shmijust sounds weird to say. I
don't know if it's it sounds likelike like like Peter Pan or some shit.
It's like when they do it inthe prequels, it's almost like like
they're just doing it so that theythey're trying to like save the universe or
whatever, and like this is likethe right thing to do. But then
when you look at it, likefrom this perspective, it's like like they
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don't want to give up their kidsto go become Jedi. But it kind
of just seems like like it's likethat joke where where Jedi is like,
oh, these fools are taking children, Like what the fuck are they doing?
You know, it just takes takesthat joke and it just kind of
turns into like this serious thing wherelike, oh, there's four sensitive children,
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Like you have no choice. Youhave to give them to us because
we have to train them to becomeJedi. Like I said, it's just
a different perspective and a different liketake on it, just from you know,
not from the Jedi's point of view, but from like the person that
it's happening to. And I thoughtthat was like pretty interesting, but it
does kind of paint the Jedi inlike this kind of negative light. And
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of course the Internet was not happywith this, but I personally was like,
could they have done more with it? Like I think it's an interesting
idea, but could they have donemore? Maybe, but I think it's
done well enough. But did youcare at all for like, uh,
this this bit of the episode?Yeah, I definitely Like while it was
happening, I was like, mythoughts just like instantly started, you know,
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racing about it. Definitely thought abouthow the internet would feel. Definitely
thought about that kind of running jokeabout how the Jedi like just kidnapped kids
and like they don't get consent fromyou know, their their mothers or their
parents or whatever it is. Buthonestly, if you actually like watch the
scene, like and you listen towhat Osha says, like they didn't force
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her to join them. She wantedto. So it's like, yeah,
is that how many other young wingsor young kids had this? Has that
happened to throughout the history of theJedi in Star Wars? Like, I
think for the majority of the forthe majority of them, they're not like
being kidnapped. You know, likemaybe sometimes they're in a situation where it's
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like it's life or death and they'reyou know, there's some sort of a
sailin or assassin trying to kill them, and then the Jedi just happens to
be there. And they save themfrom that, you know, and then
they realize that they're force said whateverit is, and then also like the
whole you know, dathamir Thing NightSisters of Dathamir Like, I definitely initially
when they they said witches and like, based off of their behavior and the
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dialogue and all that, I definitelyinstantly thought of the Night Sisters. But
I was like, nah, there'sno way these are the Night Sister sisters
because for me personally, I thinkthat it would have been much more blaringly
obvious if they were the Night Sisters, Like look what they did in Ahsoka,
Like that was obvious that she wasn'tthat Morgan Elsbeth was a Night Sister,
right? You had the green likethe green or the green smoke,
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whatever you want to call it,coming up. They made it obvious enough
to the point where like, oh, you know those are those are Night
Sisters. But I think this isjust another After I have the initial thought,
it's like, no, I thinkthis is just another coven or group
of people in the you know,huge universe that is Star Wars that know
the force, but it understand theforce in a different way, and they
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they define the force in a differentway. And I think that's another thing
that the internet's super in up upin arms about, is like, like
some of the reactions or like thecomments that I've seen, is like,
I can't believe that they're just totallyredefining what the force is. Like we've
you know, in every other thingStar Wars, Star Wars where they talk
about the force, it's like it'sthis living energy that you know, surrounds
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us, penetrate just and binds us, you know, whatever it is,
it's in all living things. There'sa living force. There's the cosmic force.
Right. Usually for the most part, the definitions have been the same
of the force throughout all of StarWars content. But I don't think that
there's anything wrong with creating a projectwhere there's a group of people that our
force wielders or are tuned with theForce, but define it in a different
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way way for themselves. Like Idon't think the project or the show is
trying to recreate what the force is, you know, because that's why we
love Star Wars. The Force isawesome, right, It's a huge reason
for it. But I don't thinkthat's what they're trying to do with this
project. And I think people arejust taking out a little bit too far.
It did irk me a little bit, where like the fact that they
did redefine it just for the show'spurpose, redefine what, like what the
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force is like or like how likehow it works, right, because they
define it as like it's this massivethread and you can you can pull on
it to I don't know, likechange, you know, you use it
for power or whatever, right,like m m. That's not the best
way to explain it, but that'slike the essence of how they explained it,
I think. And I feel likeeven the Knight Sisters would define the
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Force in their own way too though, right right, because they don't even
define it as the force, likethey they are definitely using the force,
but I don't think I've ever heardthem, like the Night Sisters themselves actually
define it as the force, butthey're definitely using it. It's their own
witchcraft, but it's the force,right right, right, right? No,
that makes sense, And I hearyou on that for sure. I
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would. I would just say thoughthat like maybe it's not a redefinition of
it, but more so like whatthe force is like to them, Yeah,
and that's what I'm That's what I'mtrying to get at, And that's
kind of my argument to those peoplewho are saying they're trying to redefine it,
you know, and I think forthe intensive purposes of the show,
it's totally fine. And but Ithink also there's something else that I would
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see online because I don't know howto take this. I would just say,
like, it's a no, y'allare tripping over this. But they're
saying that since the mother created oceanMay through the threat or through the force,
it makes Anakin as a character likeless special. Yep, that's That's
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one of the other big things thatI wanted to talk about about this episode,
like how so they don't say it, and in like they don't say
how sh Like the mother says,well, I created them, and then
the other mother of the two say, well I I birthed them, right,
so the yeah, I carry them. So the insinuation is that they
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were born from the force, butthe mother had something to do with it,
therefore saying that these two children wereborn of mediclorians, like just like
Anakin was. But they don't actuallysay that in the show. People are
just taking it that way. Andbut I get it, Like I get
how that's frustrating because it's it's peoplecan see it as like making Anakin's specialness
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and his uniqueness less unique of beingthe chosen one, right, Like that
totally negates him being the chosen onefor some for some reason. Right.
And you know there's also like inthat sequence of scenes, there's the hole,
like they're walking up there doing theceremony, right and they're in like
the gold gold in the dark blue, and you know they're saying like the
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mother says like something about like therebeing life or something. So I don't
know what that necessarily means about thetwo, but this feeling that I got
from watching this scene with them,like the what do they call it,
not the ceremony, the ascension,Like are they going to just do something
similar to like a diad in theforest kind of like Luke and or not
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Luke sorry, Ray and Kylo,Like I really hope they don't, and
I don't think that's where they're going, But I just I had this like
itch in my brain that just kindof like I had to scratch about that,
you know, because they do kindof seem like one's light, one's
dark and May has clearly been touchedby the dark side when she was younger
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somehow, because she's like she's mean, bro, she's like happy with Osha,
like at all. Yeah, Ino, she Yeah, we can
get to like how their relationship progresses. But no, I like that,
like you mentioned it earlier. Justto go back to the whole Jedi kidnapping
kids, Oshow wanted to become aJedi, right, and then May was
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like fully against it. And Idon't think like they didn't have to go,
right, Like May didn't have togo so yeah, No, I
think that they still had the option. Well, I know, like if
we're talking about like the actual sequenceslike or like the chronology of the show,
I'm sure you want to talk aboutfire, Well, ho on on,
we'll we'll get there. We'll getthere, we'll get there. I
thought. I just thought it wasfunny, like when when Osha was getting
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tested and she was like trying tolie to fail the test. That was
good. I did like that,And I like the homage like Anakin's test.
Yeah, And then in regards tothe Diad thing, I could I
could for sure see that being true, and that's like one of the reasons
why, Like maybe these Jedi kindof like sensed that and they're like,
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we we need a piece of thisfor ourselves, you know, right,
like we want a stronger half ofthe die ad it if they want to,
you know, if they if theyare like the the big power in
the universe at that point, It'slike that thing that Palpatine says in Uh
in Revenge of the Sith. Peoplewith power are like afraid to lose it.
So that's why they tried, Likeif they are a Diad, that's
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why like in Dara's here and likethese four Jedi, they're trying to maintain
that having that power. Yeah,you know, yeah, yeah, that
makes sense. So if they ifthey could try to like you know,
go for something like that, maybewe'll see. Yes, let's let's talk
about the fire. This is thisis the only part of the episode that
like really really crushed me. Wasbecause like, as the episode goes on,
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OSHA's gonna go become a Jedi andMay is uh going to stop her,
And the way she does it isby burning down her room and ceiling
off the doorway shut. And Iwas like, Okay, that's fine,
but next thing, you know,like a couple more minutes go by and
the entire compound is burning to theground, and I'm like, this entire
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place, like most of it ismade of stone, Like how was burning
to a crisp right now? Andthe entire time my head was like,
yeah, maybe these guys that arelike going on about fires in space have
a point. I was like,this is like no, I'm just I'm
totally joking, Like this is differentthough, Yeah, we're not in space
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this time, like we're on theground. Fire can spread, yeah,
and it's And it's also like whenI had the thought before the third episode
came out of like oh, likeI had the thought, Okay, they're
going to go back to the originaldefining point where like May supposedly died and
obviously we know she didn't die,but like the whole beginning of like what
Soul was talking about with I rescuedrescued Osho from a fire, right,
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they do end up recreating that scene, and I in my head, I
thought it was going to be likethey were in a forest or something and
there was this giant fire because oflike you know, like a gunfight or
something. But it's like, no, it's literally because May wanted to burn
her little like notebook, and thenjust the whole thing's ablaze and you're like,
what, it's a huge compound too. Yeah. No, I was
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like, what the fuck? Howdoes this happen? And to me,
I'm just like, okay, there'show could how could this tiny little lamp
wipe out not only burn down thecompound? Like burning down the compound is
one thing, but then everyone init is dead and these are these are
force wielding people, by the way, who got inside ahead of a Jedi
youngling. Like first first reaction whenyou first see it, it's like,
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what the fuck? How is thispossible? And then you try to think
about a little more and I'm justlike, okay, I hope that you
know, obviously like Osha didn't door no, not Osha. It May
didn't do any of this, Likenone of these people are dead because of
Osha and burning down the place,and the fire didn't spread like that off
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of this one little lantern. LikeI'm hoping that something else happened that we
just haven't seen quite yet. Thatalso just kind of depends given given the
given the events of episode four,because it that wasn't explained yet. Light
Light Episode four st boilers the endingof episode three. I still think we're
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missing parts of the parts of thepuzzle there, you know. You know,
it's either like someone got possessed,you know, and then like had
one of the Jedi just like kindof go at everybody in there, one
of the four Jedi, or likemaybe in Dhara and and Torbin fucking did
something because I just kill them all, yeah, or may kill them all,
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may kill them all possibly being possessed. I don't know. Yeah,
I guess. I guess we'll see. Well, we'll need patience for that
one. But yeah, that thatwas absurd. I was like, no
fucking way, I mean, andI do agree with you. I do.
There's definitely like a piece missing forsure, But how they're gonna play
that, I have no idea,like somebody else did something though that's not
just fire. I agree with thatoverall. I dug the episode at this
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point, though I still have theshow at like a constant three bad.
Did you have any other thoughts onepisode episode three? The only other two
things that I would say is goingjust briefly going back to the whole like
being born of Midi Klorean's thing andthe twins being born of the fours.
Like. The other thing that peopleare saying is like and I've read the
Plagus book like three times and it'slike Darth Plagus and you know, you
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even know it from Revenge of theSith, Like dark Plagus was obsessed with
manipulating Midi Koreans and even in thebook he couldn't do anything like that.
He could he could not recreate lifefrom strictly from Midi Koreans. So that's
another reason why Star Wars fans arelike so like heated about the whole thing.
But again, they hasn't fully beenexplained yet. I don't even know
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if they will fully explain that wholething. And then the last thing I'll
say about that episode, like Idefinitely agree with your score is very average,
is the ending. Like I don'tunderstand the ending at all. The
only thing after watching it like asecond time, was like, okay,
like, so what did they justshow that May survived? We already know
that May survived. Why do youneed to show that again? Or this
is like you know it's it's it'sher escaping from the compound, right,
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and she goes back to the treeto look for Osha or whatever. But
that's that missing piece that we're lookingfor to tie this whole thing together,
like some other devious act happened,and then at some point in the future
episode they're gonna go back to theending of episode three and then tie that
together and then wrap it up.But like, I still didn't really like
the ending, Like it didn't leaveme on a cliffhanger or anything, you
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know what I mean. It didn'tleave like, oh, you can't wait
to see what happens at episode four. Like I didn't feel that way at
all. I mean, I stillwas excited for episode four, but not
like because of the ending of theepisode. No, I think that it
just has me, like I haveenough intrigue to return to each one.
I just hope that like it allties together at the end. If the
fire, if the compound did burnlike if by the end of this season
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and the compound did burn down becauseof that little thing, I will be
a pet upset. Yeah you fu. Yeah, let's hope that's not the
case, because that's just cheap,that's just copping out, you know.
Okay, episode four I only watchedit once, but I think there's just
one one big thing here that weshould start with, and it did happen
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at the beginning of the episode.Let's talk about master Kiyati Monday. That's
how you say his name round KiyatiMonday y mondy. Yeah. So okay,
So my first initial thought I actuallylike saw this episode. I didn't
get to watch it on on premiereday or premiere night, and it took
me a couple of days to getaround to seeing it. So I'd already
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known that, Like I think,I already knew that Kyati Monday was gonna
be in the in the show insome in some respects or in some form,
but I wasn't like looking for itor like waiting for it or anything.
And then sure enough he has,like you know, he gets his
quick little cameo and he has likea line or two. But I'm not
gonna lie to you. Had Inot like guess that he had been it,
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I wouldn't have immediately assumed that thatwas him like I would have.
I would have just thought that,Okay, this is like we're in a
different era of Star Wars, Likeobviously this is probably just another Yeah,
he's not the only of his speciesor race or whatever. I guess my
only criticism is like why do it? You know what, why why have
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him there as Kiyati Monday, likeunless you want to like try to rope
that back in later like it,and if you didn't include him at all,
like none of this would be likenone of the Kyoti Monday discourse would
be online to begin with. Butyeah, I know the only thing that
I drew a conclusion to is thatthey want to try to connect into the
prequels somehow. And I'm guessing likein this era of Star Wars, like
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you know it, like we brieflytext about it and you were saying,
how like he has that line inI don't know which movie it's in,
but it's Phantom Menace Fantas because whenthey figure figure out about Darth Maul,
and uh, what was the thingthat he says? So he says something
along the lines it is not anexact quote, is something along the lines
of what the Sith have been extinctfor a millennia? Like it's like it's
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like when he's in the hologram,it's a hologram of him, he's not
actually in the Jedi Council Chamber.Yeah, so how long is the millennium
in Star Wars, and he's welland actual millennia is a thousand years a
thousand years, okay, And yousaid A couple of good things about this
too, is that like they haven'tused the word sith in in the Acolyte
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yet, and it's possible that likehe does know, but for whatever reason,
he's keeping it a secret. Andlike maybe the Jedi just like they
like fuck up at at the endof the season somehow and he just has
to keep it to himself. Butbut yeah, so I don't I don't
know what they're what their angle ishere. But at the same time,
a lot of people are like flippingout because, uh, like the Wikipedia.
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Everyone knows Wikipedia. If you knowStar Wars, you know Wikipedia changed
his birth date for the show.It's like that seems like a lot of
work, Like why what Well,it doesn't seem like a lot of work,
but like why why do it?Like why do it? Yeah?
But no, people are like likegenuinely upset over Kiati Money's birthday. And
I'm like, I couldn't even havetold you when he was born at any
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point, Like he's he's a coollooking Jedi, but that's it like I
didn't. I don't know, Idon't know. It's it's kind of nuts.
Yeah, they haven't used the wordsith in the show yet, but
I'm like, you, guys,this is it's like you haven't said it
yet, but you probably will sayit soon. Like yeah, I'm so
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like on the fence about the wholething, Like yes, they like they
haven't said sith yet, but obviouslywe insinuate that whoever's in the mask is
a Sith. I guess you don'tneed to, like, I guess just
because you wield a red lightsaber doesn'tmean that you are a Sith. But
for most people who know Star Wars, if they wield a red lightsaber,
there Sith or some wielder of thedark side of the Force. Right,
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So the fact that they haven't saidyet, yes, that's like, it
does change it. It does changethings a bit. And I know that
this whole kyati mondy thing is.I mean, it upsets me too,
Like it does upset me, butnot to the point where I'm like,
Okay, well, they haven't resolvedanything yet. There could be further explanations,
like you're saying, but if theydon't resolve the issue somehow continuing the
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story. I could definitely personally beupset, and I could understand why other
people are upset that pretty much whatthey have done, like whether it's intentional
or not, is taken something fromthe sequel trilogy, which over time has
actually become quite sorry, prequel trilogythat's gained a lot of fanship over the
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past, you know, five tenyears, where it used to be one
of the least favorites or at leastPhantom Menace. But essentially what they've done
is they've taken something from the prequeltrilogy and totally invalidated it because if he
so, I look this up too, but I don't know when they change
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the Wikipedia page. But according tothe Wikipedia page in Phantom Menace, he
is sixty years old. And thenfor what we know of this timeline is
it is one hundred years before thePhantom Menace, so he couldn't be alive,
right, so that they would haveto explain. But we also don't
necessarily know the timeline of the Acolyte, like we have a general idea it's
in the High Republic, probably closeto the end of the High Republic.
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But I guess what I'm just sayingis like I understand the frustration, but
I'm not sitting here saying like,oh my god, like I need to
go online and fucking you know,throw goddamn fucking temper tantrum about it,
you know what I mean. Butall overall, I love like seeing him
again, and yeah, I meanit's it's just like this is just another
one of those things where I'm like, why do we need like what's the
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point, like from from both sides, from the production side of it and
also in decision making, but alsofrom the fan base, like what's what's
the point of any of it?Just like just watch it. Show's not
over yet, There's four more episodes. Like like, sometimes I really don't
care about like having crazy cameos orlike you know, like Marvel level cameos
or Star Wars cameos. Like Ifeel like most like you know, like
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TV shows and movies they want todo for like nostalgic purposes, right right,
And sometimes it sometimes it can belike really fun and really cool.
But for this one, I'm justlike, are there, Like do you
like Yatti Munday like a lot?Yeah, I mean I do, But
it's not like, oh my god, you know, It's not like Luke
Skywalker coming at the end of fuckingMandalorian. The Mandalorian like that was awesome.
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Okay, how would you felt ifthey If they did it for like
Plokun, I would be a littleI would definitely be more excited about it,
But that's only because plo Kun hasa lot more like fleshing out of
his character, especially in Clone Wars. Clone Wars, Yeah, because he
was super close to Ahsoka, likereally looked up to plow Kuh and it
was kind of like his like Icould go to it and he time if
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I needed to talk to somebody,but was afraid to talk to other people
about it kind of person at leaston the council. Yeah, and there's
episodes where it's literally just like it'shim. He's in the entire episode,
like several episodes. So I woulddefinitely be more excited if that was him.
So yeah, I think what you'regetting out is like the decision making
is like why him of all ofall Star Wars characters that could potentially have
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a long lifespan? Right that arethat are that's like an alien if you
want to pick like an alien Jedicharacter of Star Wars. I feel like
there's like a good batch that youcould pick from that would have been a
cooler cameo than Kyoti Mundy Blocoon forexample. Yeah, there's like so many
other options, like they like Iwas saying earlier, like sometimes cameos can
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be fun if they did one,let's say, for like Yoda, that
I feel like that would be likea little like you know, it's like
that, Yeah, this is liketoo much. You know, like not
only have we seen plenty of Yoda, but and if you but if you
were to do a cameo, thiswould just not be appropriate put him in
here. Yeah. No, itjust feels like that that would that would
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feel like like a cheap cameo.I'm like, come on, guys,
but at least be alive, youknow what I mean. Yeah? No,
And he and Kyati Mondy just looksweird as hell with like brown hair.
You know, it is a littleit's it's pretty awkward to watch,
you know, it's so off putting, Like he has like a long brown
ponytail and like brown facial hair.I'm just like, this guy looks weird,
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Like he already looked like strange enough, like when you first watch the
prequel movies, You're like, damn, that's a weird looking alien, you
know, but now you just likethat guy's got a cranium. Now it's
just like your image of him isso like vivid because of how he is.
And then you go and you watchthis and you're like, Okay,
now I really can't get it outof my head. Yeah, I know,
(34:50):
why why Kyoti Mondy? I guessthere there's there's just so many things
that are happening in the show,and I'm just like, why did you
do this? Like they they couldhave even picked like which would be kind
of like really cool. Actually therewas a Jedi in the Master and Apprentice
book with uh it's like young youngObi Wan that I think is even old
(35:15):
old enough at the time, like, but he was a big character in
book. Like they could have evendone that, and that would have been
the first time he'd ever been onthe screen, and then maybe the fans
would have been like, yo,that's dope, and maybe stop causing so
much havoc online. And that's theother thing too with his cameo, is
like the fact that there was alreadycause it got spoiled for me too,
because I didn't watch for four fourthepisode till probably like Friday or Saturday.
(35:36):
The fact that there was already somuch discourse and I already had it spoiled,
it just like ruined it. It'sjust like, well, this isn't
exciting because people already hate the show, so it's like even if they do
do a cameo, it's like,well whatever, you know, it's not
adding anything. Yeah, yeah,it simply just doesn't doesn't mean much.
And then yeah, there was someonethat I think it was this episode where
there there is a Jedi like kindof like in the background. I think
(35:58):
it's when they're when they're on Iforget the name of the planet where they
find Kalmaka, but it co far. Yeah, this Jedi is part of
the squad that looks like Plokun,but it's not plo Kun. Similar looking
face mask though I might have togo back and check that out. And
they they like confirmed that too,like they they straight up came out and
said like, no, this isn'tPlokun, this is someone else. Yeah,
(36:20):
I know, I'm I'm yeah KyatiMundy. Like I didn't personally care
for it, and then people areflipping out over it, which just makes
me like it even less and I'mjust like, dude, this is maybe
we should just do like all originalcharacters, you know, like like we
don't we don't need like sometimes cameosare just like like I said, like
(36:40):
cameos or whatever, you know,but especially when you use it, just
like like why'd you pick this character? I don't know, Like I don't
know. Yeah. The only thelast thing I'll say about Kiyati Mondy is
like and kind of going with likeyour earlier theory, so to speak about
like somehow Kyati Mundy like covers Yeahexactly, no, but like if so,
(37:08):
kind of what you're saying was like, well, what if he did
know, you know, going backto the quote that he says in Phantom
Menace, maybe he did know thatthey did return, but something else happened,
right, The only possible thing thatI could see happening if that is
the case, is that somehow towardsthe end of the show or at the
end of the show, like whoever'sin the Dark Mask ends up killing all
(37:31):
the Jedi who were involved with themission and may and like they're all dead
for some reason or just like whatever, and then Kyati Munday's the one who
ends up killing the person that's inthe mask, and then he's the only
one left to tell the tale.That's the only way I can see that
happening. But it's not gonna happen. There's no way. That's how the
show goes. He has to takethe secrets of the grave. Yeah,
(37:52):
he has to take it. Hehas to take it to when he gets
assaulted by Clones, gets freaking Ordersixty six, and he's like, damn,
I should have let them know.Damn, none of this would have
been happening if if I maybe wouldhave told people, you guys, I
killed the Sith about about one hundredyears ago. I starting to think I
should have told somebody, like maybethe scales of the force wouldn't be so
(38:17):
uh tossed a certain way if Ibalance Damn Kiyati Mondy fucked up big time,
big time. Okay, But weget to what is it co far
right, and they introduce a Iwas a fan of this new little guy
(38:38):
that they introduced, the Tracker.The Tracker, Yeah, I was like,
this is a pretty sick new uhStar Wars alien to bring into the
into the fold, just a justa Rascal, Little Rascal, little mouse
kind of hybrid thing. Yeah.Yeah, but yeah, they get to
co far. They're trying to findkil Naka. He he was sick at
(39:00):
the end of at the end ofepisode two, and I was really hoping
to see more of him in action, but they just don't ripped to kil
Knaka. Uh, they really playedhim. I I kind of had a
feeling that you were probably let downby this as well, because we didn't
(39:20):
really get to see him in actionat all. Uh, maybe maybe in
a flashback maybe, you know,I know you were talking about hoping to
see like a more fully realized likelike Wookie Jedi, like some why is
his name escaping me Gunge, likea little like an adult Gungee in action.
That would have been sick. Butnope, They're just gonna slice him
(39:44):
up and he's dead. Yeah.And then after after kil Knaka dies,
the episode just goes on and thenwe get the Syth with the with the
teeth mask kind of does just doeslike this creepy little float down. I
I thought it was kind of funny. You know, he ignites his red
lightsaber and then force pushes like twentyJedi and to an opposite direction that's pretty
(40:07):
sick force push I suppose. Yeah, I can't lie to you. The
episode just kind of ends there bythe by the end of this episode,
I was I was pretty let downand like it ends in a cliffhanger.
This is like a cliffhanger that didn'texactly make me like pumped to watch the
new episode. I mean, episodefive, hopefully is just gonna be like
(40:27):
go, go go, and justlike a ton of like great action and
more of that Star Wars action thatthe show delivers on. I just hope
the sword plays sick and I guesswe'll see how it goes. But what
did you think about the final momentsof the episode, yeah, or just
the episode in general? Yeah,yeah, I mean definitely like still still
(40:49):
same same average score for the episode. One thing I did notice, I
felt like they made it pretty obvious. But in the beginning of the episode,
where you're like when you're first goinginto kil knacka's a little refuge.
I don't know if you notice,but there's the same symbols of like the
witch coven, like the same onethat's that's on the forehead of May are
(41:13):
on the walls on there, andat first I was like, okay,
like is kil Knaka like involved withthem at all? But I think I
think what happened was that was alreadythere, like those like inscriptions or writings
or whatever. We are already onthe wall. So maybe it is some
sort of ancient like used to besome ancient sanctuary for that witch coven.
But they played like the little eeriemusic around it, and then he saw
like kind of like a little redmist, you know, So that should
(41:36):
be interesting to see if they liketack onto that a little bit more.
But yeah, I mean, andI honestly, in terms of the end
of the episode, like I kindof feel the opposite that you do.
Like I actually like I think theending of this episode was my favorite of
any endings of any of the episodesso far, just because I hope with
that cliffhanger that that they don't dowhat they did with episode two, like
(41:59):
they left it on a hanger andthen totally didn't pick it up where you
know, they left off. Sowhat I'm hoping is that we just go
straight back into that action and hopefullythis is like kind of like a critical
mass point in the show for episodefive. I mean, who knows.
I mean, I just think itwould be awesome to see, like,
(42:19):
like you said, some cool swordplay in the next episode between whoever's in
the Mask and then all those Jedi, and hopefully we get a reveal or
a little bit a little bit moreinformation about who's in the Mask. I
feel like that probably won't happen untilprobably like six or seven. The other
thing that I actually really did notlike about this episode is, and this
(42:40):
is kind of one of my lasttalking points about this one, is May
just like randomly for no reason atall, just like totally like Turncoats.
She's just like, oh my gosh, I'm over this. That's fine,
And I'm like, what, like, you started this whole show and started
writing the first three episodes to makeus think that May is this villain,
(43:01):
and she's just like, Eh,I'm gonna turn on this guy. See
yeah, You're like like what Likeimmediately like she was like, oh you
know what I saw that I didn'tknow Osha was still alive. I'm trying
to think, Okay, no,she couldn't have known that she was actually
alive, so that's fine. Butshe turned so quick and she changed her
(43:22):
mind. Oh man, there's nointernal dialogue with her of like you know,
pondering back and forth about what's theright thing to do here. There's
no like moral discussion, dialogue,et cetera about why she changes her mind.
I mean, she could be fakingit. I don't know, but
I don't think that's the case.Like I think she wants to see her
(43:42):
sister again, and she just randomlywants to do the right thing. And
you're just like, okay, bro, no, not to cop out,
especially when you like they're they're kindof set up to be at odds with
one another at when they're kids,right, you know, like I feel
like it would motivate you more tobe like on the other side of things,
because you know, your sister's alivewhen you when you kind of tried
(44:06):
getting rid of her to go withthe Jedi at the end of that that
flashback episode, you know, yeah, it's like, oh, my sister's
alive now, and I kind of, well, I don't know. I
guess it's not super far fetched,but like it's I don't like it,
so the yeah, I don't either. And the only the one thing I'm
cooking up in my head right nowactually is like the one thing that I
(44:28):
could see is that she is fakingit like it's it's just a fake.
It's a fake out towards the audiencebecause she has technically one Jedi left to
kill. She already killed Torben,she killed in Dara kill Knaka is dead.
But I don't know if she's theone that killed kil Naka. I
don't think she is. They madeit seem like you no, it wasn't
her. Probably yeah, it lookedlike he was killed by what she does.
(44:51):
So the only thing that I couldsee happening is that she does want
to still kill Soul, but shehas to do it without a weapon.
So somehow she uses like she protectends like she's you know, switching sides,
and then she uses Osha against Soulto kill Soul somehow something along those
lines, and then they go fromthere. I don't know, but I
don't I doubt that's what's gonna happen. I think it's just gonna be the
(45:14):
cheap cop out now if there's yeah, I agree, this is very last.
Everything everything about the show so faris just it's hard to like want
to try to get invested, getinvested, or like even even defend for
that matter, right, and it'slike again, even like every scene with
(45:37):
the current timeline of May, likeoutside of the flashbacks like from like her
POV, Like all of those sceneswere just like so lacking like drama and
intensity. It's like, dude,you're the apprentice of a dark lord,
alleged dark lord. You don't evenknow who the dark lord is, and
you're just going on a killing spreeof master Jedi. Like I feel like
(46:00):
these scenes should be a little bitmore intense, you know, but it's
just like classic Disney like happy musicin the background and you're just not feeling
it. You know. Again,I'm not gonna be too hasty. We
still got half of the show togo. No, Like, no,
I think it's fine. I thinkit's reasonable to be where we're at,
just because like like a lot ofthis stuff could pan out, Like we've
(46:22):
said this like a couple times already. At the end of the episode,
it's like, Okay, well thishappened, but this could mean something else,
or that happened, this can meansomething else, and this can change
or it will be answered right atthe end of the show. There's also
a chance that like that's actually howit went down, and there's nothing else
to this scenario, which will bereally upsetting. You'll be like, god
(46:42):
damn because at this point, becauseI like, you guys have a like
had a chance here, you know. Yeah, even at that point,
and if that is how this showends, at that point, you can't
even say that. Oh, like, the show is just like tailoring to
a new audience. And that's whywe don't like it. Our generation,
our group doesn't like it, becauseat that point, it's just like a
(47:02):
bad storytelling. Yeah, it's stilla three. Yeah. Same. Hopefully
episode five two point nine to ninetydipping into the twos a little bit.
I mean, hopefully hopefully episode five'syou know, get a little boost on
that three score. But yeah,I agree with you, Hopefully it gets
better. That's all I have onthe episode. All Right, folks,
(47:24):
thanks for listening. We'll be backwith episode one thirty one, possibly talking
about episodes five and six of TheAcolyte. But until then, we will
catch you guys next time. Sopeace, peace,
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