Ep. 424: The Coliseum Collection - Best of the WWF Vol. 8 (Part 2)

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're back.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Blaps Bann Wrestling podcast, The Colosseum Collection, the Best of
the World Wrestling Federation, Volume eight and loss. Federal law
provides severe civil and criminal penalties.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yes, indeed, if you watch this tape, how many years
ago did it begin? Well, actually it began over a
loaf of bread. Every major culture hungered for carbohydrates with meat.
They studied it, practiced it, perfected it to a fine art.
They admired its nourishing demands, sustenance, lack of speed, lack

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of agility, lack of grace, yet courage to consume. They
did it to feed the gods. They did it to
feed their kings. They did it to feed their soldiers.
They did it to feed themselves. They did it to
satisfy their hunger. And they did it for fun. It
has come down through the ages to us today. It

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is the rubin.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Never can't tell where the Colisseum video producers are going
to take the theme next best belief that we check
all the boxes of no Colisseum columns and all the
rest heading into this Colosseum video release. And there's Gene
and his Brown Bage WWF Studios Bespectacle Spectacles, right, and
he's wearing them for the express purpose of taking them

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off and holding them thoughtfully.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
That's exactly it. He's interested in looking interesting. Did you
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
When you say the Official World Wrestling Federation Home Video
Series that you have to pause between official and world
and the official we're Ald Wrestling Federation.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Home Video collection? Here he is. This one leads into
the into the match itself. I don't know if you
have anything else before, I'll go for it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
We play it, all right, Buddy Gene Oakland for Colisseum
Video and the Official World Wrestling Federation Home Video Series.
This is the best of the WWF Volume eight. It
knows we produced this particular cassette in nineteen eighty six.
The weekly television coverage of the World Wrestling Federation has
increased to an amazing seven hours of national programming.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
What do we have now? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean, we probably don't have much more, but it's
live now, which is just so much more absurd.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Because there's let's see, there's the two.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Main there's probably seven or eight.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, okay, all right, this was about the same okay, on.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
More than two hundred stations across North America.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Two hundred stations.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I love the patting themselves on the back about how
many stations they're on, Like, I know, right, gives a
fuck about this?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I know? What are they?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Seriously, what is this tape?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
By this tape so I can hear them read off
like things you'd do present napped at the Nappi convention.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Maybe maybe they sold this at that Maybe maybe this
was the tape they had. Look look at the new
talent we have coming up. See this so excess great stuff?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, I'm sure eminem Mars wants to buy the next
ted RCD.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Match absolut listen, don't we all? At least I'm listening.
I'm sure that there are some fucking Italian cold cuts
companies that were like a second, I'm after him.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
On four continents and in seven languages, fans around the
world can view in a single year.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
How many languages by the nineties and over a dozen
languages and over eighty thousand countries each week with whatever
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
It was over a half billion viewers each week. Each
week billion five hundred million people watch WW. Something tells
me that's just.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Rung a typo. Over a half million people. That's maybe
maybe if they're lucky five hundred thousand people watching each week.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Ridiculous olver twelve hundred hours of original first run action.
Probably on Question Leader in professional wrestling the World Wrestling Federation,
I like.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I do, like how we're not yet into sports entertainment yet.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, No, he's still talking really fucking fast professional wrestling.
Whatever they said in Question Leader, that means to me
that Crockett did two things that made them feel the pinch,
you know, like just takes a little bit of a
chink in that armor, and they have to double down
on that rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know, I mean, what were they what what would
have happened in eighty six? That was Flair, big old
mill that was but not yet though this is still
this is uh, this is well, I guess would have
been eighty five. Actually that I mean strucking eighty five
was was the gathering the four horsemen with the gathering,

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I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And maybe it was a horseman angle that was so hot.
Maybe you know, Flair's out there on TBS talking about
be the best in the world and how the horsemen
represent the pinnacle of wrestling something.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, maybe maybe that was it.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now even the most loyal fan would have a difficult
time in keeping up with all of the matches, but
there is a way to see and keep and come.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
That to me sounds like someone wrote in a newspaper article,
how can you possibly watch all this stuff? Right? How
can you keep up? How can even the most loyal
fans keep up with all this?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well there's good news, ryl. Most of the seven syndicated
shows have repeat matches on them, so you only have
to watch the match once and you've already watched the program.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Elect the highlights from the Boston Garden they believe Gardens
in Toronto, Madison Square Garden in New York, the Big
Apple's one here, all this superb Colosseum video home video series.
Listen to this lineup, the Killer Bees, Big John Studt,
King Kong Bundy, the Junkyard Dog, Handsome Hardy Race and

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Junkyard Roberts, and ongoing feud with Ricky the Dragon Steevele,
and there's more. So let's go right to it and
vogu me that this greatness continues with the best of
the WWF. If there is truly a mecca for sports,
it must be New York's Madison Square Garden. And what
better location for a tag team of traction featuring four

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of the youngest and finest athletes anywhere. On one side,
b Briant, Blair and Jim Brunzell the Killer Bees, the
opposition Mannags by the Mouth of the South, Jimmy Hart
two hundred and eighty pounder, Jim the Anvil Nightheart, along
with a new man who may well be the finest
technical wrestler of the world, Brett the hit Man.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Higher tremendous. That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We are underway, to say the very least Hearts versus
the Bees. This from when was it February of eighty six.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right February seventeenth, nineteen eighty six, at the Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Gene does have a good point in that, you know,
unless you lived in Philly, New York, or Boston, you
would not be able to see the monthly Megga Cards
or Toronto, although I believe right the Toronto WBIF television
was mostly Maple Leaf Garden matches that you could see,
but I could see in other markets as well. But yeah,
the point is well taken that there's all these matches
happening that aren't national live broadcasts. There's just Saturday Night's

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main event four times a year, there's the pay per
view once a year. A lot of stuff, maybe Wrestling
Classic in there, but there's a lot of stuff happening
that fans in eighty six could rightfully be frustrated not
being able to see.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
And so maybe there was a Niche is one of them,
fucking Billy Jack Haynes versus the moondog Rex if they
if they have their way, yes, I suppose so.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So it's Monsoon and now on the call, Al Hayes
and andvill early on breaks the waistlock of one of
the Killer Bees and does the hands on the hip
psycho stare, and Little Monsoon says the strength stuff is tonight,
working on working on these guys as Al Hayes iss
Jim Briunzelle has been recorded with the fastest drop kick.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wow, So they got out, what do you have to do?
I mean a spinometer? I know, Like, how do you is?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
It?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Would guess it's a stop watch that leads from from
takeoff to impact. I guess.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Okay, So what he says fast as he doesn't mean
exit velocity. He means time to execute.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I guess I don't really know. I don't know. I
mean what I mean to me, who cares what the fastest?
I want to have the most impactful, impactful, So who's
gonna you know, it should be about you know, uh,
you know, uh whatever they call it, like, I don't know, Yeah,
I think it impact per square inch or something sort
of like.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
A fastball is measured, you know, That's what I think
he means the fastest. But Girl Monsoon says, the most
awesome and all of pro wrestling is that drop kick.
And we're going to get some some more candidates for
that is as the as the time goes on, and
as the tape goes on, as a matter of fact,
because I would fink that's right Brett harts drop kick
up against Jim Brenzel's.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Any day of the Yeah, sure absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
He targets that face so expertly.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Test the strength.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Now on the top wristlock and anvil is barely budging
as you can imagine, Brett offers an obnoxious applause from
the apron.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
He's such a dick, Yes, he's such as he always
had it because he is a dick, right, That's why
he tries. The thing is he doesn't want to be
perceived as a dick, and so that's why he has
to act all holier than now. The problem is he's
a dick. Let's not forget. In his own fucking documentary,

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he fucking looks giddy as shit at the idea of
beating up the school bully. Yeah, all right, this guy
likes to be a dick.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Brett is just he's the dick that's the dick towards
the people most want to see, get it, you know,
as opposed to others who were dicks, to people who
we don't want to see. I think I think he's
a dick anyway. Yeah, no, no, dick the same. No, I'm
not saying he's not a dick. But in a world
of dicks, he's the one you want on your side
because he tends to be the one that calls balls

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and strikes cleanly.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, except that, you know, the problem is is that
you have to impress him, yes you do, yes, to
have him be on your side. And that's like, that's
good point. You have to kind of fall under is umbrella.
Before you know, he's not going to accept you just
for being your Exhibit one.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Bill Goldberg, who coming up on a Saturday, will have
his retirement match against Gunthor on Saturday Night's main event.
Your co chairs will be up a Patreon dot com
slash the lapsed fan offering that live call, so you
don't have to take it in well, we'll take the pain.
It might be in a bit of a delay, just
fair warning. But it's going to be a big weekend
for live calls because right after that is ww Evolution

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and aw All in Texas is going on that weekend too.
People want us to do matches from that show.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I know, huh, I know, lock.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Upside headlock, push off tackle and it's Jim Brenzel crouched
over as Anvil points and laughs and there's that tight shot.
They now have more than one camera at Madison Square.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Guard they do, they do. We definitely have the the
impact of Saturday Night's main event now at the Garden.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And Grilla will be calling out one of the handheld
camera numbers here quite soon. Jim Bert tries again for
a shoulder tackle, this time with a clap. It's not working.
Even if you clap your hands before doing a move,
it doesn't always work in wrestling.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Sometimes it works, and then Anvil goes over the way
over the top doing his his big reaction and then
he gets ensnared in a drop toe hold. Breunzel goes
to a leg Grapevine, turns it over and drives his
knee into the crook of the knee of the n veil,
trying to take out the tree trunks. Tag now to
Brian Blair. Both bees in there now, Grilla Monsoon.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Do you have to be a taller to be to
have tree trunks? I think his are more just. I
don't know, but so.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's not about circumference. It's about height. When you say trees.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
About height, it's about height. I don't think of jim
Nineheart's legs as being, you know, trees, They look like
more like little bushes. Got it very good?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
As both killer bees enter the ring to take over
working over the leg, Grilla Monsoon declares it stretched me
out time and so I guess only fans here we come.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I guess, well, either that or Stu hearts in town.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Jimmy Hart, protesting mightily at ringside as Brian Blair, while
standing up, steps on the far foot the one to
the left and then cranks the right ankle. I always
like that submission in wrestling. You don't see it enough.
You don't just crank one limb, you isolate the other
one by stepping on it, and you kind of worst bone.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yep, it's perfect. I'm a fan. It's perfection. I also
love in this whole bit here. How you know the
I mean, I know that they're the baby faces, so
they're they're going to be in charge at the beginning.
But it's it's interesting to me that they're in charge,
that they that they hold down Jim knightheart yeah, instead

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of Brett, because Brett's certainly in terms of size and strength,
the weaker link. But they actually are holding down the anvil,
you know, which is just not what I expected in
a tag match like this. No, not at all. And
uh for a length amount of time too. It's not
like it's just like for a little bit and an anvil,
you know, like he is he is like the the target,

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the heeled target of the of the killer Bees.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
It is remarkable that they want to go on against
the big Hoss, the big Rhino as Stuhart would call him.
And uh, as far as that being impressed with that submission,
you can say what you will with the Bronzell stepping
on the legs, but Grilla Monsoon is surprised that Brian
Blair didn't step over with it, and that's uh nope,
there we go, really keen technical insight ref looking like
wild bull curry as Brian Blair goes over the top

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drop toe hold and then he drags a handle to
the corner tags in Brunzell, they both do the wishbone
with the angel's legs. Yep, ol Gril Monson can do
in describing it, say, look at that job jack knife
cradle by Brunzell.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Get yet that's still going on and there won't.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Be one in this time limit draw Bronzell with the
jack knife cradle gets too bring making plenty of rattling
noises in case you forgot what decade.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're Oh my god, it is what a noise. The
noise and the loose ropes. The whole ring is loose
in a very important ways. Yes, in a way that
definitely feels unsafe.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Right, it's not secure, you know, it's not firmly tethered.
It's it's somewhat raw. So a single leg Envelo is
hopping on it and tries reaching Bret Hart and Bread
almost tumbles over into the ring trying to reach That's
always a great spot where the heel tries so desperately
to reach over and get the tag that they fall
into the ring themselves. Sherry kind of did that in

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the Hogan and Savage SummerSlam match.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
He did, yes, although.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
They said Elizabeth pushed her in the ring.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I don't know. I think she was going for this
and I think so too.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Jimberzel stays on the leg of the Endville and both
Bees take turns, driving knees into the quadrucepts of Jim Knightheart.
That's at least what Grilla Monsoon is observing. And what
does he call it? He calls it the gastro scenemius muscle.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm sorry, what now?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's the chief muscle of the calf of the leg,
which flexes the knee and foot runs to the killies
from two heads attached to the femur. So Gril Monsoon
with the and and am atomical calls as well, making
me nervous. Let's see, Brian Brelair goes for a figure four,
but Brett comes in and drops a leg right in
his face and they explode in protest at him, breaking
up that figure four and Anvil comes up with a

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lame leg and they speculate it would have been over
if Brett hadn't made that save. Brett and Brian Blair
now are exchanging and Grila mont Soon says the Hearts
have come a long way under the tutelage of Jimmy Hart.
It is kind of weird to think about the Heel
Heart Foundation teaming up before they had Jimmy Hart in
their corner.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
But no, that is true, that is true. What were
they were they their Heart Foundation then too?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, it was a very short period of time. But
what was weird was that Anvil came in I think
from the very beginning, or maybe he had a couple
of matches where he was just presented as an individual.
But I feel like he had a Heart as his
manager or was it Heenan maybe at Heenan as his
manager as a singles and then they switched it off.
I think that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Is it it is weird that he that he has
the name night Heeart, that is you know when I
know it really is so.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Al Hayes calls Brett one of the most improved men
in the WWF. So they're already calling him out in
a way where it's like he's a dastardly heel and everything.
But they're already saying the same things you would say
justifying his babyface singlest push years later.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh absolutely absolutely, And there's so Gorilla and Il have
this exchange about correspondence in Japan. But what it leads
to is this incredible yell that Brett does to the referee.

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Oh well, okay, I.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Wonder what ou Jepanese correspondence think.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Come got a lovely jacket? I must have been a
rubbish sale somewhere. He doesn't have thirty nine dollars worth
of stuff on Bruton's watch in the wrong corner once again,
I'll be Brian Blair in a whole lount of trouble.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Do you hear him?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know, when you play sounds, all I can really hear.
The announcers in the background gets really muddled, but I'm
sure that the listeners could hear.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Listen, that's Brett. Still, couldn't hear it played again? It
does he say what he's like yelling at the referee
like what what? What did I do? What?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
That is not that is not Brett. That is Brett
Hart play it again. Wow, it's in there with some
of these guys. Man, if you get him in the
right moment, you hear like the indoor voice.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I've never heard Brett Hart yell like that, wow ever before?
Like yell and screaming. He's always so much more collected
than that. But what you were right in the middle?

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What what? What? What? What? What?

Speaker 6 (17:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think that audiences, It's a great entertaining movie. He's
such a fucking.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
So generic, so generic, all right, Yeah, so Monsoon checking
and doing the the tag check on Jimmy Hart's wardrobe
as Brett chokes Bribrian Blair in the corner to.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Step in. What what my god? That's so weird. He's
so like I just I was like, what just happened?
Brett Hard? Like you don't we never hear him yell
like that ever?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh the rest in Brett's face and animal chokes him
with the tag rope and jim reference him off Brett
with the head button and I rake into the corner.
Precision kicks to the gun snap mare by the hip man,
as Guerrilla Monsoon says, is the body would say, the
bees are not buzzing at the moment. Lord sleep role
by the hip Man. As Al says, they call them
the bees because they move sweetly and when they are

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they hear you. Monster notes the mouse under Brett's eye
and says, the people here for the word wrestling Federation excitement.
That's all I can think.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Al calls it the absolute zenith of wrestling. Has Brett
does en zenith? Yeah, because I was like, wait, he
called the zend nick snick zenith, Yeah, Brett, there's nothing
comparable to w W reaction. It's the zenith zen the

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zenith of venice.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, Brett stays on him throughout a times to fact
back side back breaker by Brett goes to the middle
rope and he lost his footing and came down on
his est. Usually when this is a top rope elbow,
he takes the back bump, but the middle rope.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I know, well no, no, no, he takes in the
middle rope elbow is what he does. But but but
but but it's it's it's interesting because it looks like
you're right. I don't know if that was a even
if it's not, even if it was on purpose, it's
an incredible like looking way to go about the bump
like slipping off. Yeah, I don't know if that was
intentional or not. It doesn't look intentional, but that also

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might be Brett being Brett.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, yeah, with Brett, Brett's the one guy you have
to second guess because because he doesn't always execute things
exactly the same, which is funny for excellence of execution.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Right exactly. I mean that's that's the funny thing about it,
Like he's put enough thought into it that he would
know how to make it look like a mistake exactly.
That's that is the true excellence of execution.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I think it's so underplayed and wrestling, it's like making
space for like a moment that doesn't go right, just
playing into the opponent's hands, you know, like it's fine,
it's not a mistake if if you allow yourself to
believe that it's real. Of course, guys are going to
fuck things up, start to fuck things up. So it's
like the thing of a wide receiver will never drop

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a pass like it's it. It's bound to happen when
you go for it. It shouldn't be some kind of
like demerit. If what we if what we're supposed to,
if what we're watching is supposed to be real, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yep. So Brett lunges, m the uh shit, I lost it.
There's someone ol Brett being just.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
When he comes off the ropes and slips.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
There was something else about him in terms of like
this characterization and like his professionalism.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
It'll come back. So Brian Brett, Brian Blair lunges in
trying to kind of do in the war dance, almost
a big babyface fire up, and he whips Brett right
into the anvil in the center.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Crowd.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Didn't see that one coming the way the way they
put that one together. And then Jim Brinzel comes with
kind of a Mongolian chop on Jim anvil and sends
him let's see we have a whip is reversed and yes,
Jim Brinzell ducks. They explode as he gets into the fight,

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but Brett throws a knee to Brenzel's back from the
ring apron. They call it the fact there was no tag,
but oh well, one soon says he should at least
know the ref that is, who the right men are
in the ring. Hit man's on the apron, but he's.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
The legal Have you watched wrestling before?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, seriously, well, he's saying this is a particularly egregious scenario.
He says, we knew we would have trouble as soon
as this one started. But it's not all that hard
to keep track of who belongs in the ring. And
I'm thinking, actually, Gorilla, it is incredibly hard to keep
track of who's in the ring. That's actually what the
hardest thing is to do when watching a wrestling mat,
like keeping track of who the last guy.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
To get a llegal tag was. Yeh, who is legal?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So Anvila is that that would be a hell of
a deal.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I just thought of this.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
What if they got their fucking thirsty TV production gimmick
department to do a thing where the legal guy has
a little icon over his head the whole time he's wrestling.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh yeah, like video games, if it was a real sport,
they'd do that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
They would find a visual aid so that the viewer
can follow along. I like it, or even just you know,
highlight their name at the bottom of the screen when
they're legal, draw a red box around their name.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I don't know, except that that takes away. That means
you can't actually have a bullshit exactly. You can't get
away with bullshit. If you do that, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I like that idea though, create these rules to come
up with screwjob ways out of a match, like the
DQ rule and stuff. Yet if they actually strictly featured
on the TV, it takes away that the screwjob possibilities
because you need to be super loose with it for
to make any for it to work, for it to
be useful. Otherwise it's a huge handicap.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yet, if it were a legitimate sport, they would be
doing just what you said.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, the audience would be frustrated that they didn't know
who's legal at any given time. Yeah, fascinating. I would
also have a running count of a pin attempts too.
I would make a of course, yeah, I would make
a score out of that.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
You also would have fucking people keeping track of win
and lost records.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Well yeah, I mean, aw does that and no one pays. Potentially,
it's been tried so many times. There's a way to
do it right, But if they're not going to do it,
no one's gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
That's my person. I mean there's because you know it
all It all depends on it. Really. What it matters
is is you need to be strict about it. You
need to make a difference, right. It needs to actually
mean something like if someone actually is winning and you
know it has the matches, then they should be and honestly,
in a weird way, you should be willing to interrupt

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the way your programs are going in a way like
if you accidentally give somebody too many wins, like you
should pivot and say, well, all right, this guy's got
to fucking go for it because they've got otherwise. That's
that's always to me where where I'm I don't know
about aw I don't know how the fuck they do it,
but like that, that is where you lose people and
the fact that people who have won don't get the

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recognition they deserve. And it's like, you know, if you
did that and you were willing to just go with
the flow and say, hey, you know what, you know,
we we kind of you know, we're at a position
where this person's won the most matches in the last
you know, four weeks. They deserve the next title shot,
despite the fact that we want this program to go
over here, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
What they end up doing is w W does is
they do a series of tournaments or multiple person elimination
matches to determine the top contender. That's almost always the
way they end up doing it. And they so pathetic
show the win loss records on the graphic when the
guys and gals come to the ring, but they hardly
ever emphasized them.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But like that's it, like that, then then then why
have them? If you're not gonna actually going to use that, agree,
then you should do it, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
And they have so many tournaments now, like they have
the annual December Tournament, which is kind of like its
own self contained deal, but it does come. I think
it comes with the title shot. The Owen tournaments, they do,
the Owen Heart Memorial tournaments. The winners of both of
those get title shots. It's it's kind of tedious. Frankly,
I think, you know, maybe they should just make if

(25:55):
you don't want to give the title shot to the
guy with the best win loss record, maybe you should
just make it where the top ten best records then
get entered into well it can't be ten, but whatever
the number would be get entered into the tournament to
determine the number one contender. Just have it flow through
that way so that more matches, so we're not just
waiting for another tournament to start before we feel like

(26:16):
we're actually going to get a glimpse of who the
next real contender on pay per.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
View is going to be.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, and you can still do your story driven title
challengers sort of maybe even off to the side because
the champion gets gotten to by some personal affront and
wants to fight the guy.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
And that's okay. Like that's okay too, where the champion
uses their discretion. Listen, I want to fucking fight this
guy because he's pissing me off, and that means I
got to put the title up for grabs. Fine, I'm
gonna fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
The hold up for so long and top ten rankings
and wrestling is ben that you know, you don't always
book with enough foresight to make sure you don't want
to have that distraction of also having to make sure
that the top guy in the rankings is also the
guy you want to plug into the title picture. Someone
gets injured, it's a complete disaster. I think if you
just stick with the rankings determine who gets into qualifying,
then that makes the rankings mean something. That could definitely

(27:03):
help something because as we see like it's like UFC,
for instance, even though it's real, like they came up
with the system, and it's like it's such a joke,
like all all you do is set yourself up to
be made fun of when the number one guy never
gets the title shot because you got to do business,
you know, and the number one guy that isn't necessarily
business compared to other contenders that people won't actually see

(27:23):
fight the champion.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
So it's a weird deal.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
But Anel's cranking on the chin lock here and Jimmy
Hart is trying to quell the audience cheering for the
Killer Bees at ringside. Gorilla Monson says the chinlock looks
like a smother to him, or the name like smothers.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It has to be good, right, Garrilla, I'll say he
definitely knows how to smother things.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
He thinks the figures are covering the mouth and the nose,
which would be illegal, but nonetheless, Brunzell is able to
build back up at a back elbow, he breaks free
and tries to lunge.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Gorilla claims that there are twenty five thousand people at
Madison Square guard.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, that's probably counting felt for him.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
But that's I don't think there's even that many people
can fit and felt for them. I don't know. I mean,
it's twenty thousand people who can fit into Madison Square
Garden in the in the bilding itself. Yeah, and hold on,
I'm gonna fucking figure this out, because I mean, I
didn't think about felt for him about.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
The unfortunately garden show. But garden show stats are pretty
easy to come by. Let me grab my trusty book.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You talk to the people, absolutely absolutely, But I'm going
to look here. So like the current situation here, the
current seating capacity is twenty thousand, seven and eighty nine
in the main bowl for boxing and MMA is what
it lists definitely Oh actually funny enough for pro wrestling
it only holds eighteen thousand, five hundred. That sounds rightly. Yeah,

(28:50):
uh in there, But let me see the theater. The
theater at Madison Square Garden is you get to the
bottom of shit. That's why people listen, That's right, See, Okay,
so they can hold so Michael Kenyon's I guess all right, hey,

(29:12):
you know what it can seat between, which makes no sense. Actually,
it seats between two thousand and fifty six hundred people.
Oh wow, that's quite of the difference. That is, I
don't understand where do they fucking.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, I think it seats six thousand people if there's
not the screens but the Felt form. The whole purpose
of going to the Felt form is you watch it
on the screen, and then the screen takes a lot
of seats up. So if you're going for like a
show with the ring in the Felt Forum, you can
get that many.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
People in there. Right.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
This show is the Kenyon book shows twenty thy two
twenty five sellout includes Felt for him, So there you go,
not twenty.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Three twenty thousand people, not twenty five thousand, So fuck you,
grill nop.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's gorilla probably just taking the capacity of Felt Forum
and the capacity of the Garden and adding them together.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Which it's not possible, It is not possible. Correct.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Fortunately we have records like that shout out as I
something to do Wrestling in the Garden, the Battle for
New York Work Shoots and Double Crosses by Scott Teal
and J. Michael Kenyon and indispensable.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Resource that that that book too, that's you know, I
I thanks to you. I had that piece of that.
I asked you for a piece of information. When I
was doing the tours, That's right, that's because I wanted.
I used to put down because I used to love
because when we when I would go by until my
tour became way too long and I had to cut
it out, but I would when I went by the

(30:29):
picture on the suite level of Hogan, Muhammad Ali and Liberaci,
I would talk about the history of pro wrestling at
Madison Square Garden, and I would talk about because you know,
I'm always like, you know, this is not just here
like this is you know, the dates all the way
back to like eighteen something or other at the first
you know, one of the earlier.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You were the only tour guide in Madison Square Garden
history to go there.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yes, absolutely, I can, definitely I can. I don't mind
claiming that.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Remember the Jim Londo's picture we found exactly Yep, a
little bit on that too for our fans when we
did our tour.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Exactly, well, I don't think we do. We go up
to the sweets. I remember we went with the sweets.
We did with the crew, yeah, with the with the
oh yeah, because they were setting up, they were setting
up the show, bring.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
The honor Madison Square Garden Show. How funny is that?
Oh yeah, We're We're headed back by the way.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Sunday, August third, at noon, the Lapsed Fan takes on
Times Square tickets at Comedy Village dot com. There goes
the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
You fucking bitch, so JB JB.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That is to say jbl Jim Brinzell builds back up
with the back yelbow. He breaks free and he goes
for the lunge, but Anvil snatches him in a big
bear hug and drives Brinzel into the corner tag to
Brett Hart, who goes middle rope inverted and Brett rings
down the elbow to the face while Jim Brinzel is
draped across Uh Jim the ind of the Lightheart's knee.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
That would be the demolition decapitator.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Exactly what it is, uh cover and Brian Blair drags
Brett off on the two count. Brett protests, of course,
of course, points to the referee. Pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
You gotta say, I really enjoy I really enjoy I
mean we've said it anyway, I really enjoy Brett being
a sniffling little bitch.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Heel yeah, and a little like point like pointing at
someone like, hey, he did it first kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, you know, like the the you know, it's funny,
you know because I remember the idea of the whiner
bitchy image being so uncomfortable for him in ninety seven.
Yet here he is doing it right.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Here, absolutely because he's one of those you know, like
that that wasn't fair, that wasn't the rule kind of guy. Right,
like he'd shut if you're on the playground and like
someone broke the rules, like he would shut it down.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
He would go home.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Like that's Brett Hart, you know, he would go home
if he thinks one person didn't follow the rules and
it disadvantaged him. Back up on an average whip boot
to Jim Briunzel's gut, good workmanship, Al says, yeah, you
can say that again, good workmanship. Brett lays on a
front face lock on Jim Briunzel as a rilla. Mont

(33:00):
soon falls the referee for touching Brett's back when lunging
over to switch sides to get a better view on
a potential submission. So the Rafflick jumps over the two
wrestlers and he puts his hand. He kind of posts
his hand on Brett's back to do it, and as
far as Gorilla's concerned, that's putting all of his weight
on the wrestler, Jim Brunzell, who's on the bottom of
this pile. And that's just not ethical for a referee

(33:20):
to do, which I thought was an interesting take. Referee
is checking for it is interesting a choke, a sign
of a choke. Alays can't believe the more referee that
the move the referee made either just now, and Gorilla
says he may have to pay for that later in
the locker room, suggesting that because he tapped Brett on
the back while switching side that he's gonna get the
shit beat out of him later on.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Oh hey, you know Brett Brett's UT's Brett's put some
fists to to people in the dressing room before.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, you better watch that uppercut. That's the one they
don't see coming. They expect the overhand. Brenzell builds up
to the corner, Brec goes to the gut and goes
upstairs as well as guerrilla. Mons Soon says, Bread is
all so decisive with every blow he delivers. I like
that that's exactly the way to describe it. Brett is
decisive with every blow he delivers. He ran, He's also
very decisive with every line of blows and he does.

(34:10):
He's decisive and everything he does. That's kind of his problem.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
He rams Brunzell into Jim Anvil's boot Andvil comes in screaming,
get up to him, and then tosses Brinzeil to the floor.
Brett goes over and slams him hard on the concrete. Yes,
big slam, and they react big time. Brian Blair comes
over to ten to Brunzel and then Blair runs back
in an Envil and the and the crowd starts to
lose it because he's trying to get back at it.
Avil gets in the ring, referees stopping Brett, and Brett

(34:36):
loads Brunzell back into the ring. Brian Blair's attempts to
get involved this distracting the referees of the Anvil gets
a chance to stand on Jim Brunzell's throat without getting
called on it.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And Lord al Uh, lets us know what will happen
to the winning team?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Whoever? What's this shoot up.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
The ranks?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
The ranks. Hey, hey, Ali, got news for you. Whoever
uses the match is going to shoot up too.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
They're all going they're all going to shoot up.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
So dark in that crowd, the abyss, and all you
can see is the billboard and the Budweiser logo beckoning
somewhere beyond.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's really it's funny how there are certain, you know,
visual advancements that they that they've done to the Madison
Square garden shows, but there are some there that they
have not.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Now there's some they just don't go there. They just
to this day, I mean to this day. It's hard
to say, but you know, you can see garden house
shows like this from even nineteen ninety seven on the
network and still it's darker yep than they tell.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, it's a very very weird lighting, like just weird lightings. Again,
they're certainly capable of having the lighting. It's weird that
they don't choose to do it. It really is. I agree,
you can tell it. I can't imagine the w I
can't imagine the WWE is bringing in all their lighting.
I know that the building's got lights up in the ceiling. Huh,

(35:57):
So like I wonder why I just it's weird that
they don't. They don't necessarily use them.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I agree that is that is strange, but it's
like a traditional comfort thing, comfort sound thing. I'll be
waiting to see if there's a Colosseum video to come
in the Colosseum collection where MSG is better lit. But
I'm not holding my breath.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Brett, Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Brett comes in Corners Brunzel whip bruns out with a
sunset flip. Very nice, gets too. Rila months and says
he did not hook the leg, he.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Didn't have it.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
He also says that you know the reason he didn't
do it. He doesn't really throw Brunzell too far into
the bus. He just says the reason he didn't hook
the leg proper lease because he didn't have enough energy left.
Mm hm, you have to do I like that. You know,
when a baby face doesn't next to cute, he's just tired.
A baby face never blows a spot, he's just tired.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Mm hmm. Agreed. But Gorilla also says that everybody is
after the tag titles, right, everybody including ted RCD Hogan,
ted RCD Savage, Terry Gibbs, my mom all to the
tag titles. Oh good, Brett wriggles yeah to this day.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah he didn't mention that part, but that's also true,
right heart. Wriggles free and stomps Briunzel in the crotch.
Anvil comes in clubbing and Lord El says the winner
will shoot right up to your point, and then Anvil's
cranking the front face lock. Jim Brenzell's trying to inch
to the corner to make the tag, but Brett flies
in and nails Brian Blair to prevent him from making
the tag, so that freaks That pisses off Blair. He

(37:21):
comes in, chasing him back to the corner. Referee gets
in the way, so the Hearts are able to get
a double team in right in front of the Raft, though,
because he just turned around in time, Brett sends Anvil's
shoulder first right into the gut of Jim Brenzel in
the corner. These guys could get some heat. The fans
hated that. Indeed, from manipulating circumstances like that, at least
some torn intercostal cartilage gorilla diagnosed on the knee.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Of what happened, You know, I'm trying to think about too.
So I know we know where Brett Hart turned baby
face in the in the Battle Royal, but what about Anvil? Yeah,
he kind of disappears after that, he does, right, because yeah,
they do like a minor singles push because I know,
I know Brett Russell's bad News brown at the uh

(38:02):
yeah at Wressel Fast and then like but when does
Ninetheart actually turned baby face like it's it's a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I don't. Actually I feel like he has. I
feel like he has a drug thing or like some
kind of like problem with a w w F front
officer on that point is that when he got in
the stewardess hit the stewardess or whatever. Famously the case
that brought Jim mcdebitt Jerry mcdebitt into the w w

(38:34):
F fold to defend Jim Knightheart, there was some kind
of extra extra curricular thing that I think required that.
Let me see WrestleMania four. How does he put it
built four every morning? Yet after my matches yep mm
hm hmmmm hm mm hmm. I was awakened by a

(38:54):
call from Vince. He was interested in bad news as
ask me whether I don't know, I can't pull it
up right now. I remember, it's just a weird thing.
Like it's just a weird like that is like when
he okay, I see here, so I'm looking at here.
So uh.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Breton then had their thing and Brown double cross Heart attacks.
Brown smashed the trophy and not hurt. Eventually joins Bred's
side in the feud, with Brown causing a rift between
the Heart Foundation and Oh so they continues Bad News
Brown causes a rift between their Heart Foundation and Jimmy Hart.
Oh there go the Yeah, Anvil is involved in this

(39:39):
and bad News Brown is it helps to push to
create the tension and the DISSENSIONE.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I was gonna say, I thought the end of thing
was eighty seven, so that wouldn't you know the endvil
thing on the airplane was eighty seven, So that wouldn't
make sense there, All right? Well, uh yeah, one day
we'll revisit it.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm sure in the fucking colisund collection will get there
and don't understand.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, hey, you know what, there's a Heart Foundation tape
coming up. Oh that's huge. I can't wait for that one.
And a demolition one dude, buck.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, Brett comes in with an amazing dropkick right under
the chin. What were we saying about Jimbernzell's drop kick,
because I it was the fastest of all time. When
the lateral press gets too and Ll says Brett is
not hooking Brunzel's leg, it's a surprising error from the
hitman bit of Okata his Brunzell pushes off and headlock
and launches into a high drop kick. When Brett Okata,

(40:30):
he's got that great drop kick. You gotta I'll have two. Yeah,
that's right, you will. You'll duck two and then go
it again. The high dropkick lands. Al has an orgasm
at the sight of Jim Bernzell's dropkick. He calls it
the secret weapon of the Killer Bees. Not so secret
since they've been putting it over since the beginning of
the match. But the crowd pop huge for it, and

(40:52):
you'd love to see a drop kick at that kind
of mileage for a guy Brett laying there motioning. Brett
sells it beautifully. Brett sells it like he's out cold,
and he absolutely does. Yes, it's wonderful, But that still
doesn't stop because Brenzelle is so fucked up that still
didn't stop and for from coming in and draping Brett's
carcass over Brunzell and almost.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I loved that. Fucking yes, that was absolutely a brilliant yep,
absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Even though he hit the drop kit, Brens almost lost
the match andvill they get a tight shot of Annibal
with a look on his face like well shit. Brett
gets back on Brunzeil inverted atomic drop on him in
the corner and we'll grabbing the tag rope like crazy,
and then Jim Brenzelle starts crawling again in the front
face lock and the crowd wants him to make his
way over to Brian Blair. Anvil comes in again and
the rev cuts off the tag to Blair. Ref didn't

(41:38):
see it, of course, so Blair gets in there, but
he's not gonna allow Brian to participate, so he backs
up Brian Blair in the heart's corner Brunzell again for
the double team, but this time, when they try to
repeat whipping one of the other, the other teammate into
the corner like they did earlier, this time they sent
Brett in. Anvil sends Brett in, Brenzelle moves out of
the way. And this is where Brett does you know

(42:00):
what the industry requires make it real by of course
making it real, run your sternum one hundred miles an
hour into the corner buckling, making the witness a car
crash velocity.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Listen, you want to sell two more tickets tonight?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Okay, people on thirty fourth to hear about this? All right?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Whoa what?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I think someone just could plank. Someone just went clang
chest first into the into the turn buckles. We better
buy some tickets.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I asked you a question, why does Brett do it?
Why does Brett do the chest bump in the in
the corner? Because I mean, if I can ask you
to speak for this, it is. It is, it is,
it is. It's a very very simple thing because it
causes pains, all right, and pain makes people watch more.

(42:49):
People are invested when someone is suffering. And Brett Brett
Hart knows how to suffer and knows how to make
us want watch more. Brett Hart knows how to suffer.
That is as he does, that is on the nose
all the stern yep so sternham. First he goes and
he falls to the canvas. And this allows Jim Burnzel

(43:11):
to go underneath Jim the Vial Nighthart's legs and make
the tag to Brian Blair and we're off.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
We are off.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Brian's in rights and lefts on both drops Brett.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
You know, Brian Blair is not the first person I
would think you have to do a hot tag.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh yeah, I know, I know. But he pulls it off.
He's got it at him. He's a veteran and he's throwing,
and he's whipping a handle to the corner with a
hard running left Larry.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
They explode at that.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
An inside cradle by Blair gets too when anvil kicks out,
he whips bretton to the ropes lift and a side
power slam which comes off pretty awesome, and then a
big slam, almost Hult Cogan style from up yes, Brian
Blair on Jim the Nville night Art, and then he
ducks Breton atomic.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
I mean, it's funny that you talked about what happened
with Blair and Blackjack before the show, because it seems
like someone else gave them a different memo and said,
can you please open up a clinic? Oh wow, in
the center of the fucking is that way you were
compelled to write down as you were watching this match.
That's terrific. Indeed, I mean, got a fucking clinic.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You want to see a perfect hot tag, this is it.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
This is it.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
And he comes in hits an atomic drop that sends
Brett Heart into Jim Anvil Nightheart and they explode at that.
Blair then covers Brett and Anvil tries dropping an elbow,
and you know what happens now, Blair moves out of
the way and Anvil elbowdrops his own opponent and they
go even crazier on that one.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That move always works. It is, it is. It's wrestling
one oh one's correct and there and there are elements
of wrestling one O one that are that are one
o one because they always fucking work.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
You might call it the best stuff the World Wrestling Federation.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, exactly. This this match is the best of the
tape I know, and it's the first one I know.
And it's like, you know, I just don't. People are
always so concerned about, about, you know, being different and
being innovative, and and it's like, you know what, there
are actually things that work because that's what you need

(45:02):
to do every fucking time, all right, is it that hard?
I mean, listen, there are some things that we still
do to this day that we like, you know that
that that wrestlers do to this day, that are that
that our age old things that are timeless because they
work and because they're important. Hot tags are one of them. Yes,

(45:22):
dropping elbows on your on you know, dropping elbow on
an opponent only to have to have you drop it
on your partner. That's fucking money that it's going to
get a reaction every fucking time. Oh my god. You
know when you think too much about it, seth rollins,
it's you know, you don't need to put that much
fucking work into it. You know, you don't have to

(45:45):
do that ship You can just you can do the
simple things because there are there are elements in a
wrestling match that that that are there that were created
and they will work every fucking time. And when you
have a partner hit the other, hit his partner, one
guy hit his partner, it's always going to get a reaction.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
So where it's just the spot, let's see it. I
haven't seen it in a long time. I feel like
I haven't. I'm sure they do it, and I just
don't notice it anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I mean, I'm not saying that you do it like
every moment of every match, you find the right moment,
but it is it is an easy spot to do,
and it's an easy spot to get a fucking reaction. Yep,
you know, like tell the story. Two heels hitting each
other is fucking great. Always, like you said, tell the story,

(46:36):
mm hmm. Somewhat.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
So, the ref backs up Abel because he shouldn't be
in the ring, and this allows Brian Blair to hook
Brett for a two count and Grilla Monsoon to create
the cries that the ref is nowhere in sight for
most of the cover back up whips Brett into the
abdominal stretch of b Brian Blair. People jumping up and
down at the fucking abdominal stretch being applied, and Lord
Al puts it over as being perfectly hooked. But Jim
comes in and then Jim Breunzel cuts him off to

(47:02):
a big pop. Because the envil isn't allowed by Jim
Burunzel to break up the abdominal stretch, a peer four
brawl breaks out, Pandemonium has broken loose, Agrilla Monsoon declares
corner to corner on the Irish whip. The hearts are
whipped into each other in the middle of the ring,
a slingshot job, as Gorilla calls it. Brian Blair covers
for two big pop on the kickout there. Then Brian

(47:22):
Blair whips of the hitman, reversed the lift, go behind
and then he does the O'Connor roll in the hitman
one two and Brett just wiggles out with like a
less than a quarter of a second to spare yep,
great near fall back up tag to Jim Brunzel. Brett
goes over the back of Brian Blair. He leaps over

(47:42):
the back on the drop down and when he leaps
guess what you left your feet? Drop kick in the face. Yes, yeah,
Brett is airborne when he takes the drop kick from
Brenzell airborne and the gate receipts are improving as a result,
and the business matters as a result. Cover count of
one and the bell sounds before the ref can even
slap too. The bell sounds and the brawling continues months

(48:07):
soon as in Surefood's a three count or what the deal?

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I will tell you, I will tell you. I actually
sat there saying to myself until that, until that bell rang,
I was like, I don't know what they they They
can't let either team lose. I'm saying that the fucking
Killer Bees and they didn't, and I'm like, and they didn't,
And I was like, you can't. I said, who's gonna
lose this match? Because there were many times I actually
thought to myself, Wow, the fucking Hearts are gonna lose.

(48:29):
But they can't lose because they're like the hot you know,
they're building the up with a hot team. But at
the same time, the fucking Killer Bees are being way
too awesome here than they ever fucking deserve to be,
and so they can't lose either, and so they they
It's actually one of the few times where I'm like,
good job with the time limit draw. Yes, that's that's
probably the best fucking move they could have done.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yes, I agree. Yeah, it's remembered as as such like
if one of the two teams went over, it wouldn't
be like, oh that draw they had, you know it
would it would it would lack a little bit of
shorthand at least for the lore. Know, everyone remembers, I think, well,
match they're talking about between these two teams because this
was the one that was the draw, and they both
try to pull anvil out of the corner for an
Irish whip and anvil dead weights and leaves the ring instead,

(49:10):
and Jim Briunzel with a high fist pump in celebration
when it's announced that he well, when he thinks that
they won, the ringsiders are looking to shake hands and
pat the guys on the back, and Howard Finkle announces
that the time limit has expired and this bout has
been ruled a draw. Great start to the tape, and
yes we move on from there. For better or for worst,

(49:30):
Gen Oakland, here is Gene.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Whoever was this? Not that one that's here? It is
here's his Gene.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
When you have the largest wrestling organization in the world,
athletes from all over, well latch will they beat a
path to your door. They want to compete against the
best there is, and it's only the very best that
we hit though the World Wrestling Federation. We like to
bring you up to date with some of the newer
bases in the World Wrestling Federations with some clips of
their performance and let you judge for yourself. I think

(50:01):
that one day in the not too distant future, you'll
look back at a number of the has been and
see the beginnings of a stablished superstars come to the
World Wrestling Federation from all sorts of background, but all
this without standing from amateur sports. Young Daddy Spivey, for instance,
was a draft choice of the New York Jets of

(50:22):
the NFL. Although he weighs nearly two hundred and seventy pounds,
Spivey appears almost lean because he's almost clean, nine inches.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Tall, almost lean. He's not lean, he's almost lean. Oh
my god. Now, I don't know. I don't know if
you heard this, but right after the Jean's done and
the match kind of gets going, I heard Terry Gibbs
just yell out. He said, I'm looking for my son.
Do you know where it is? Ha?

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Ha?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
You think he looks like him? Oh my god, looks
just like fucking John heard from certain angles Gibbs. Honestly,
you know, I at one point I was thinking of myself,
they should this this, this match should have been and
fucking John Hurd versus uh Bill Bill Fogger back from
the show. Coach, you know what I'm talking about, Like

(51:12):
it's sucking the two of them in this fucking match.
The head coach for a little while, John Tolos Terry
Terry Gibbs a job riek, true Greek, not like fucking
Hercules Hernandez.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Terry Gibbs such a jabron to the stars that he's
on the he's on the.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Tape twice and why like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Jobbing out Gibbs and Spivey, What a fucking idiot? The
graphic says newcomer, Dan Spivey, It says newcomer on the
graphic and right out of the gate, Terry cares, Terry
Gibbs needs him in the corner, throws some chops whipped
to the corners reversed and Bibby, you.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Haven't five to go over, Terry Gibbs, is that a thing?
Gold terrible names Terry Brother? What are you doing? Dude?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Why is his name be Terry? Why is he of
all the guys you met him up with brothers?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
All the guys? Do you get so many guys? You
got step On Bardi brother And what do you have got,
Hulk Hogan, Terry Gibbs, what's next to your point? The
Hulk Gibbs, Hulk rules or Hul Gibbs brother, what gives?
What gives my question?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Hulk, Well that's that's going to be hit as Vibers
Series nineteen nightty one.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
There we go, oh no, no, no, no, no no,
on the play flag on the play that we should.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
We should grant each other three flags of podcast. You know,
we'll just throw idea. We have to abandon it. We
can't say anything else. If we throw a flag down,
we have to move on. Spivey charges But miss is
in the corner. I'll tell you for a match design
to make Spivey look like this hot newcomer. He certainly
sells a lot for this piece of ship. Terry Gibbs
like a fucking idiots. We put a match on the

(52:53):
best of where dance Spivey gets his ask for it.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Let's talk about how great dance Spivey is and then
show him getting his asking.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Well, I'm just I wrote down Jean's putting over how
great dance Spivey is and that's the actual footage he's
voicing over his dance Spivey getting out killed with an
atomic drop and stuff. But again the doppelganger. Look for
Barry Windham on full effect here, as there's a front
back breaker by uh that gets the two count, and

(53:19):
then Spivey is tossed to the absolutely filthy brown concrete.
I mean just disgusting. You can't not mention.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That it's awful.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Terry Gibbs waves on the crowd to try to fight him,
and Grilla monsoon welcomes to the World Wrestling Federation. He says,
this is the welcome to the World Wrestling Federation for you,
Dan Spivey. You're getting an education in a hurry here.
As Dance Pivey tries to render the ring, he's cut
off and ran down to the buckling and drops down again.
I see both Coke and Pepsi signs in the bleachers,
so definitely definitely no exclusivity there.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
And I see Coke all over the face of a
lot of these guys too.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Grilla soon advises Dance Bivey to take take over to
the other side because you're trying to get in this way,
you keep getting cut off and again the Brody furs
on Spivey's boots, which yeah, Ventura make.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Also advises Spivey to get a Gobbago sandwich back in.
Terry Gibbs whips cabogall sandwich. I just guess it's a
great way of pronouncing that word. Doesn't put a moron.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Terry Gibbs whips Dance Bibby in with a sunset flip,
but Gibbs hits them between the eyes instead of going over,
does an extra little leap on the elbow drop, and
Monson says, you're not going to feed him that way.
Terry calls him Terry can't support Let's see, he says
to Terry Gibbs, you can't support yourself on one arm

(54:46):
and expect to cover a guy this big and still
keep those shoulders down. You gotta you gotta support yourself
on two arms. I don't know how many times we
gonna go over these fundamentals with these guys.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
It's very simple, Terry Gibbs, very simple. Ship the air hug.
What a spot that is when you think about it.
You just get to stand there with your arms loosely
touching the guy's at lower back and you stand there
for like ten minutes. I really want to I wish
we had an image of Gorilla Monsoon's office at the headquarters,

(55:15):
Like I really want to see what his office was like,
like what it looked like.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I always perceived him as having a road office, not
an office in the tower.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
But maybe, yeah, you don't think. I imagine he must
have had an office, you know, at the at the
building at some point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
O interesting what a Dutch boy haircut on a fucking
dance biby Huh?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
He looks like a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Mongolian chopped to get free of the bear hug Monsoon says,
getting your holiday season, So he thought he'd ring the
bell here. What's the date on this match? Hear the
holiday season?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
It's yeah, it's a November twenty fifth, ninety five. Grill
is thinking about that turkey. Absolutely, he is hungary. And
this was I believe I looked up too. This was
the Monday before Thanksgiving, so he is really hungry.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Speaking of which, did my eyes deceive me? Or did
you not counter pumpkin spice in the wild already?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh? I did?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Oh my god, boss, it's like one hundred threes outside.
You can't be making hay about that.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
It's way too early. And it's never too early? What
never too early? It's there. It means it's okay, wow,
someone put it out. It means it's okay.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
You mean it's okay to start thinking about a day
that's so wind swept in gray with orange leaves that
I feel okay wearing long pants again.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I mean, I started thinking about that in February. Oh
give me the fucking fall. God. Oh I'm over summer already.
Oh it's been brutal so far. It's been brutal. Spend
some days I.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Go outside, I'm like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Like what am I supposed to do with this? I mean,
I mean, let me tell you what really kicked it
off for me was when so when I went to
Saint Louis fans, because that was fucking brutal. And I
didn't I knew that that that you know, Saint Louis

(57:08):
is technically like south of New England. If you look
at the map, like, it's not the ocean breeze, that's
the key. It's hard, right, But but it was just
fucking miserable, absolutely miser You get off the fucking plane,
it's like we cut off and at the fucking equator.
It was awful. It was just miserable. I'm like, this

(57:29):
fucking s oh, awful, fucking hate summer. So you're gonna
be a cranky guy. When you walk into a comedy
village the lap.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Fan takes on Times Square tickets at comedy village dot com.
There goes the neighborhood. You fucking bitch, that's.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Gonna be what you're saying. Let me tell you if
the ac better not fucking be broken, wouldn't that be
the kind of thing that would happened to us? Ah,
fucking Times Square, just like soaking up the fucking sound
like it's Burbank, California.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You make up with no voice, Jesus, and then there's.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
No gladly, gladly give me no voice. Fine, oh man,
that would that would just be I mean, Times Square
August third. There's only there's only one. There's only one
worse time to be in New York City than all
summer long. And that's the first day that it gets

(58:31):
really like that, that the sun's out and you feel
heat in the city because all the ship that's on
the streets smell all the yeah, exactly, you smell the piss.
You smell like the fucking New Year's beer that has
been fucking frozen into the into the streets since January first.
Everything stinks.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I invite you to go from that mental image to
October third in the city.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Oh, it's a beautiful time, is it. It's a beautiful
I'm just walking up and down the streets with a
fucking pumpkin spice right in my hand.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Where you wear the same thing in the outdoors and
outdoors to me, that's that's the perfect weather is when
I don't have to take my coat off in or outside,
or I don't have a coat on and it's fine
in the outside where it gets this hot the ac
cranks so much that you're actually cold inside.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It's like, folks, know, the key to life is that
seamlessness invisible weather I call it. I need to be
able to go seamlessly from indoor to outdoor without any
kind of uh and the engineering.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
And that's what makes honestly, that's what makes a living
and fall, Yes it does. But that's also what makes
spring and fall so magical because what you're doing is
in the fall, the temperatures are going down, so you
are you know, you're putting on clothes that are like
you're saying, like you know, that's you put on long pans,

(59:55):
you put on a shirt, but you don't need a jacket.
Like again, like you said clothes that you just go
in and out hoodie then exactly. But then in the
spring it's the same temperature. But because the temperature is
going up, you just wear comfortable clothes, you know, like
you know, you don't have to think about, wait a minute,
should I wear Should I wear this dark colored shirt

(01:00:16):
because the sun's gonna be brutal? No, because it's just comfortable. Now,
it's like, oh, maybe I have to think a lot
about it. Misery, misery exactly, you're headed towards misery. I
have to think about how little I can wear without
being completely offensive to people. Just awful? Shoot me. Fucking

(01:00:37):
the summer sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
It's the Last Tan Wrestling podcast. H the wrestling podcast

(01:01:13):
that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

(01:01:49):
He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnasio,
m JP sorrow words, fucking say sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Speaking of which, Dan Spivey with an Irish whip a
dropped down and uh Terry Gibbs punts him down for two.
Gorilla Monsoon says, you can't go for a backdrop and
take your eyes off of your opponent and drop your
head like that and I'm thinking there's no other way
to go to for a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Backdrop shove bomp.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Hangman's new neck breaker by Terry Gibbs. He's applauding himself
because no one else in the garden is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Month Soon says that one, which is that's a good one.
That's the fucking greatest Gorilla line I've ever heard of
my life.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Those two counter Terry Gibbs back up, gets on the
bear hug Months.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Oh my god, this in fact his matches, this going
on this long is just just an understand Gorilla doesn't
understand why Terry Gibbs didn't have too much success to
begin with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
He'd be going back to the sleeper. I'm thinking the
same thing. He also notices the absence of Jesse Ventra,
who apparently is in the locker room putting on paraphernalia.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
What he's just put on para ferila in the middle
of the show. I don't know, we're in paraphernalia. Yes,
Spivey Tray's elbowing out. Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Spivey breaks through the hip toss, gets the ropes, totally
whiffs on a high elbow, so we have more of
a match to deal with. And then Terry Gibbs with
a whip and a backdrop gets to Monsoon does it again.
He says he's got his right arm out there already.
You're not gonna get a three count that way. Reverse whip.
Spivey grabs hug Terry Gibbs. Rakes tries to go to

(01:03:29):
the corner and Dan Spivey rams him in, and then
Gibbs starts begging off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Crowd is supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Want it at this point, but they don't. They don't
care if Dan Spivey comes back, hip toss out of
the corner body slam, which.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Is because you know what, and and listen, nobody wants
a guy named Dan to fucking win shit, right, It's
like having a Barry is fucking champion, all right, Like
it's just a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Well, maybe they read that scintillating article in WWAF magazine
and can't wait to see this guy going to the top.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Well, the same thing. You don't want a guy named
fucking Ted winning anything either.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It's a long way down in that elbow drop, which
is a good point Gorilla makes. When Spivey misses it,
it gets to count, crowd starts booing. Spivey drops a leg.
I swear to god, he drops a leg, He drops
a full leg, drop with yellow boots on. I could
not believe my eyes. Frankly, I really couldn't, because it
only gets a two. It's not even the finish. I mean,

(01:04:24):
that's just what if?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
What if? What if he dropped? What if Spivey goes
for a fucking elbow drop, Terry Gibbs moves, Terry Gibbs
moves out of the way, and and and Danny Spivey goes,
and then there's something. He makes a hole in the
ring and he just keeps falling. He just keeps going down,
like breaks a fucking center, you know, just keeps like

(01:04:45):
drilling a hole in the earth as he just fucking falls.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
If it was if it was possible, Russo would have
done it. He used to love going through the ring
and ship like that. Yeah, So Spivey drops a clean
leg as if he wasn't imitating whole coked enough to
begin with. That only gets two. And then Davy's Dave
Dancepiby hooks up a bulldog out of the corner. That's
his finisher. As Gorilla says, call me a cab. This
one's over one two three Dance Bive. He defeats Terry

(01:05:08):
Gibbs here on Best of Volume eight Ginokril and now
to introduce our next participant, Billy Jack Haynes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Great like that's this is just gonna be fucking bad
all around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
An unusual case is the one of Billy Jack Kynes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Say that again, you're not kidding. I isolated that sound.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
An unusual place is the one of Billy Jack Haynes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That's gonna come also used unusually from June twenty seventh,
ninety six of the Boston gad And.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Some fans may recalled that Billy Jack made a brief
appearance of the World Wrestling Federation at the end of nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Eighty film We'll call that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
However, he felt that he simply wasn't ready both physically.
World Wrestling Federation officials went back to Oregon for their training,
and now has emerged once again to take his place
amongst those seeking to climb the ladder towards a check sham.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I mean, do they really expect us to get excited
about Billy Jack Kynes going for the belt?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I mean, I listened, I've never gotten excited about Billy
Jackkynes at all. I think he you know, listen, he's
got obviously he's got an incredible physique, but he's got
a really bad face, really bad. What do you mean
by bad that it just listen, he does not have
the face of an individual who I want to see succeed,

(01:06:31):
all right, he looks like he looks like a dumber
fucking uh uh Steve Williams, that's true. He doesn't like Steve.
You know, he looks like a fucking dumber Steve Williams,
And Steve Williams looks fucking dumb as it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I don't know why they took the why they bothered
to mention that he was there in eighty four. I
don't get that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
But I mean, no one, listen, I didn't I didn't know.
I didn't care. No, I didn't fucking care. Okay, I
don't care. I think Billy Jack Hayes is one of
the biggest fucking jokes. Let's get them to mention the
fact that he's a fucking murderer. But Jesus, let's get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
The first guy to testify in Vince's trial, moondog Rex
Randy Colly, to take on Billy Jack Haynes. Here who
does a headlock and a lift and a dump of
the back souplex and it comes up with a lariat.
I'll tell you, you know with Randy Coyle Callie a little
roided up to he's a fat fortherfucker, but he's got

(01:07:28):
like some bulk all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
He talked about that in the trial hilariously, that this
guy felt pressure to get on the gas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yeah. Actually it's kind of funny. You'd think that he'd
be pressured to not share his gas, to have no gas. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Jeane, to his point, calls, just make this match better.
Gene okerlands on Color by the way, uh calls that
clothes line from Billy Jack a prudently timed clothes line.
Oh my god, and dok rillamontsoon says, uh, Billy Jack
is going to be around along time. Well, it depends
where you mean. Not on the WWF but side Backbreaker

(01:08:07):
Rex is taken over again. We got to deal with
these guys who are being spotlighted. This is Boston Garden,
by the way, getting knocked around for most of the match,
just being made to look less than interesting. It is
the beste Geene talks about Billy Jack being a very
articulate young man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, very nice guy. Oh, God Almighty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Who really calls him an extremely nice guy? I mean, God, damn,
is that fucking ironic? Subdued crowd to say the least.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I was looking for the championship banners. I didn't see any,
which was kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
God and find Yeah, that is weird, the god obscured
by darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I guess. I looked at all the ceiling in there,
and I was like, they did not see any championship banners.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
It's a subdued crowd, to say the least. They did
not show up to see Billy Jack Haynes. Did Billy
Jack have an l JN. I think he did, Yeah,
I believe so. So you got Rex following him around
trying to scratch him, and Monsoon says someone didn't bothered
to check the fingernails before the match started from the commission,
as per required, There's a two count from Rex on

(01:09:07):
a knee drop and you can hear I think a
faint boring chant. Finally, Billy Jack Elbot was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
It a boring chant? Because I couldn't tell you. Yeah,
I know it had the cadence of boring or Irwin,
but I wasn't sure which one it was. I know,
definitely not Irwin, but I wasn't sure if it was
like something else because it didn't sound like boring to me.
But it definitely had the cadence of boring.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Right, I'm with you there. It was boring and the
crowd did not care at all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
It was Billy Jack. But he, yes, he has a
fucking actually he might have had. Did he have one
or two l jans?

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I guess no, No, he had one l JAM But he
had a hat that could that was removable.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Oh okay, that's a that's an interesting accessory. Didn't always
see those.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I mean, my god, you know, I'm surprised they didn't
have a fucking uh you know, no, some Swigler fucking
l j N. Well, if we did, that was a
good one. That was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I bet if we did the lj N list, the
guy in the bottom would be even more pathetic than Skinner.
I guarantee you probably.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Or probably no, no, no, no, no, no no, it's the
fucking outback jacket. Yeah yeah, yeah, amen, that's the most
pathetic one. They had fucking moondog ones that I didn't know.
All right, now, now I'm looking at no. Oh no, no,
they're customs. They're customs. Going to say, I don't think so.
I was gonna say no way when they should have.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Lady Colly had with Vince over trying to claim that
he had the intellectual property rights to the demolition gimmick
because there was some conversation that he argued in court
formed a verbal contract. And remember from the trial of
his life, that's where they got most of their witnesses
from the government. It was people who who had ever
sued Vince for any reason. These basically called them all
his witnesses, hoping that they'd shop on Vince. Uh so,

(01:10:56):
Billy Jack elbows free tackle, down goes Rex, but uh
missus an elbow drop, no reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Whatsoever to that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Yeah, you know, Hayes is throwing punch, Haines is throwing punches,
but there's really a stunning lack of reaction to it.
He drops, Rex rams him across his knee, blah blah blah.
At one point, Jeane says that Rex is going Caddy
wampus over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I'm sorry, what now, Catti wampus over the top. Yeah,
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Which means to be a skew, crooked, or not properly aligned.
Thank you for that contribution to uh WWF commentary canon
Gene Okerland, Cattiwampus.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Billy Jack Haynes, is that for sure? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
No shit nicely called Caddy wampus sounds like a some
of the would have wrestled a velvet. McIntyre also says
Rex may have been opened up a little bit of
the facial area.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
He did get he did get busted open.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Back, and Billy Jack whiffs on a drop kick girl.
Munson still calls it a beauty. So Haines is ailing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
He does call it a he does call it. It's
so stupid. I mean, you know it's not only the
worst in ring, it's worse on commentary as well. The
w W W Gorilla get worse the more we hear
him or better. No, listen, I love Gorilla, but Gorilla
back at this in this period of time, he's just
he's not interesting, He's lazy. He's or Alley right exactly,

(01:12:18):
you know, like there's just just a he got better
as as you know towards the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Well, he rose to the occasion when the atmosphere was
special he could feel happening around him. He rose to
the level of like a presenter. But when left, you know,
just for a run of the mill match, he's gonna
nine times out of the ten he's gonna choose to
amuse himself over at you know, right, gets.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
A product over. I can see him fucking flick, like
flicking his cock during matches like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
When I heard that the talent used to really get
pissed off at how much he would call them out
for bad pin covers, knowing full well that they're not
supposed to cover the guy perfectly until it's the finish
per like protocol. I can't unhear that or unsee that.
Now that I watch him commentate a match, it's like, yeah,
you know, I used to just think, oh, that's a cool,
little quirky thing Gorilla does is call people out for

(01:13:08):
shitty covers, that the more announcers should do that. But
to hear that it pissed the wrestlers off to no
end because it was basically Gorilla masturbating himself, like as
a guy who's too smart to you know, to be fooled,
thinking that could be a near fall when all he
really was leveraging was the fact that he knew that
the finish wasn't coming yet, you know, and just made
the wrestlers look like they didn't know what they were doing,

(01:13:28):
when in fact they weren't supposed to make anything but
the finishing cover look perfect or look tight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Is it's kind of funny, like like that's such a
stupid Yeah, that is really stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
You would think every cover should look They said the
same thing about Michael Cole, where like he if he's
being very verbal towards the one too, you know it's
going to be the near fall. But if he goes
kind of quiet, you know it's the finish. And like
it works like every time you just tell by the
timber of his voice, because you kind of lay out
when it's the finish, you know, more so than if

(01:14:00):
it's a near fall that you're trying to overemphasize and
over over sell. So Guarrell Monsoon still putting over the
dropkick as Billy Jack Hanes ales on the canvas having
missed said dropkick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yep, he's a fucking goof.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Gene even speculates the Reft might have to call this
dude to injury at some point, and relative to the
blood on Rex and grill assist. The blood has to
get in the eyes for it to be a real concern. Finally,
Billy Jackkines pulls out a leap frog and drops him
on a lariat. Screams, come on, get up, and Billy
Jap slaps on a full nelson and wrestles him down
to the canvass in the hold and gets the submission.

(01:14:34):
As the bell sounds, Gene says, that works and excellently
executed full nelson. Great, he really turns it on, puts
the pressure on. He said, he's going to be a
big one here, Billy Jackknes and the World Wrestling Federation
smattering of booze. Certainly not a course of cheers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
As we transition to Junkyard Dog versus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Bundy, the Junkyard Dog as Benny, if you know, is
one of the most popular wrestlers, and I wonder if
it isn't an insane jealousy all this popular that has
made jy D a target of so many men. First
there was Terry fun then the adorable Adriana Danas and
now certainly his biggest opponent. You're managed by Bobby the

(01:15:11):
Brain heating four hundred and sixty thousands called King Kong Bundy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Oh boy, it's from June fourteenth, ninety six at Madison Square.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Guard you very much. It's a hot summer Grilla Monsoon
and all on the call they lock up and break
and Al says, without a doubt, the man most likely
to thrown Hulk Cogan and that sad situation where to
take place would be King Kong Bundy, and Monsoon says,
Truer words were never spoken, and I'm thinking yes and
pro wrestling, that's probably true. All it takes is one

(01:15:43):
human avalanche, they say, and talk about what a remarkable
athlete five hundred pounds or so being so lead in
his feet. Bundy is okay, yeah, he's laying his.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Feet all right, Yeah yeah, Jesus Christ for the marshamallow
the worst SIUs. Seriously again, you gotta really look get
his fucking his his his the way his barque. It's
really not appropriate, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Shaped like a fucking he's shaped like a fugal, like
the flat pug.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Yeah yeah, that yeah, exactly, he is shaped. You're right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
That's not acceptable. But you can't like be shaped like that.
You can't be shaped like a Minion's ice cream bar
from the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I mean that, right, I mean he's and he's like
he he looks like he's got you know, like he's
flat like that, you know, with like curved edges. That's
what he looks like. That's like a flat back. Yeah.
That makes that's the extra goofy part of him. You're right, yeah,
because it's wide and flat. It's like, no, no, no,
you're not a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Movie You're not a movie projection screen. Okay, You're a human.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Being, right like act like it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
So to the corner off the lock up j White
with his fist cock but the ref is mad that
Bundy is not doing something about it, I guess, and
Jyd's chance are thundering Green Garden, but he's you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
You should be angry that fucking Bundy is not doing
anything at all. That's what he normally does.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I was opening with the Colisseum of WrestleMania two behind
us that on the collection we would get less of
Bundy's the biggest threat to Hogan style stuff. But they're
still playing that card for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
What was the date again? Six fourteen?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
This is post and they're still talking about Bundy. Is
the biggest threat lock up to the corner. Dick Kroll,
by the way, is presiding and he tries to get
between these two, but the blocks j Wad's arm on
the punch attempt. I don't know why he's got. It's
a hard on for stopping Jad from punching Bundy. But
by doing that, Bundy gets on the dog and they
scream at him for give me a break. What was

(01:17:36):
that for getting involved, which I think is a very
fair point Bundy though, missus nilbow drop and Jyd goes
off with all four's headbutts and Bundy bales to Heenan,
who's rubbing the bald head of Bundy and trying to
console him. Al says Bundy is suffering, and then that
was the case before the match. In after the match, indeed,
Bundy looks to the crowd for a second. They're up,
pointing and ready and T shirts and jeans to fuck

(01:17:56):
this guy up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I mean, you know, I don't know something. Something during
this match just forced an image in my brain of
the hairless Bundance, completely naked, sure getting a blowjob, sitting
in a lounge chair. Like just a lot of spell images,

(01:18:18):
just awful, a lot lots spelling over the edges there,
like exactly, there's just a lot of of like I
don't know why. I mean, it's my brain, so that's why.
But like I just was, like, you know, after a match,
he's got a fucking prostitute and he's just naked, hairless,
sweat under his tits. Yes, well, he said, here's the problem.

(01:18:40):
He doesn't even have bitch tits, Like why did he
and Andre get away with that? Who fucking allowed that
to happen? Andre and fucking King Kong Bunny two the
fattest fucks in the company. Yeah, they don't have tits
hanging over their fucking tights though, curvature at all. It's
all flat. Yeah. Yeah, you look at fucking uh uh
uh may bowl you know, in in his later days

(01:19:04):
degree place, see w days, it's like you could fucking
you literally could feed a baby. Yeah that, but you
could also like store stuff under there like they would.
There's that much weight going down over over his body
with those tits. Fucking Christ wrong with him? You lift

(01:19:25):
it up and put like a dime bag under there
or something you could. You couldn't tell me that, listen,
I guarantee you when he died. They lifted up his
tits and there was like three thousand dollars in cam Do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
You think you put any etcetern under there? Because Gorilla
can't stop talking about how uh the pain that fundy
seems to be and seems like an Eccentrin headache number five?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Fucking Christ, do you get a fucking product placement here?

Speaker 9 (01:19:49):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Do you recall the reference?

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Do you know what that is? A series of Etceterrin
commercials A campaign?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Yeah, they came out with a different number headache for
oh my, different scenarios. It sounded I don't know. We
once did the Tasty cake break when Grilla Monsoon made
a Tasty cake break reference on one of these Colisseum collections,
and I just whatever, it gives me excuse to watch
nineteen seventies TV commercials.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
I do. Yeah, And here's a little flavor.

Speaker 9 (01:20:16):
Get it me et Ceterrin Headache number thirty nine. You
don't need to measure my foot.

Speaker 10 (01:20:22):
I know it's for a triple A now as I
read this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Is what's his name?

Speaker 10 (01:20:27):
That must be there?

Speaker 11 (01:20:29):
Yeah, I've always had growing leg it must be your foot.

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
Now listen, are you trying to get funny?

Speaker 10 (01:20:34):
About my feet.

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
Well, you excuse me, I think I need some Excedrin Etceterrin. Huh,
you know the extra strength pain reliever.

Speaker 9 (01:20:41):
Are you implying I've given you a headache?

Speaker 10 (01:20:44):
Pain in the head known also as an Excedrin headache.

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
Life is full of Excedrin headaches. That's why you should
get a bottle full of etcetern tablets, each fifty percent
stronger than an ashpen tablet for a leaf of headache pain.
So if you get Exceedrin headaches, why take anything less?

Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
You must be thinking of the size of something else where.

Speaker 9 (01:21:03):
Fucking dick cabin Excedrin headache number twenty four, what's for?

Speaker 10 (01:21:08):
We've had livers so many times in the last month.

Speaker 9 (01:21:11):
I'm I'm going to eat your liver.

Speaker 10 (01:21:13):
Negative zero liver is going into my mind. Liver is
good for you. With liver, you can live.

Speaker 11 (01:21:19):
I'm going to risk my life by not eating liver
for three days. Somebody has to take a stand on
this thing, and I'm gonna. I'd rather stand on it
than I look in the mirror, I see liver.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
I look like liver. Oh that's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Oh what are you taking?

Speaker 10 (01:21:30):
That little bottle of ask?

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
Not an you have a headache.

Speaker 10 (01:21:34):
Huh Excedrin headache.

Speaker 9 (01:21:35):
Oh, life is full of Excea, but Exceedrin relief comes
only from these tablets, each fifty percent stronger than an
aspirin for relief of headache pain. For Excedrin headaches, get Excedrin.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Relief, and finally.

Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
Excedrin headache number forty four. Driving home, I'll never go
to the beach on Sunday again.

Speaker 10 (01:21:58):
No, a bad idea.

Speaker 9 (01:22:00):
Should get the kids to flate that dolphin.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
It's sticking right in my neck.

Speaker 10 (01:22:03):
Pull the thing out of that fish. Were you down long?

Speaker 9 (01:22:06):
Your daddy can't see out the back window.

Speaker 10 (01:22:08):
Pull a plug out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Pull the ball there, got around all it's gone.

Speaker 9 (01:22:12):
Oh no, Georgie has to go to the bath roat.

Speaker 10 (01:22:15):
Listen, would you give me? Would you give me that
that Etceteran bottle? Oh, you got a headache?

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I have an Excedrin headache.

Speaker 9 (01:22:21):
Life is full of Excedrin headaches. That's why you should
get a bottle full of Etceteran tablets, each fifty percent
stronger than an ashen tablet for a leaf of headache pain.
So if you get Etceterrin headaches, why take anything less?

Speaker 10 (01:22:33):
Give me the thermos.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
God, gorilla sitting at home watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Oh, yes, you know, why don't you go get yourself
a full bucket of etcetera, et cetera. Heading number five.
Al oh, Lordship that the King? Yeah, the King kung
Bundy headache. That's in fucking etcetera commercial number.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Four apparently, Yeah, I couldn't find excetern headache number five.
I'm already in the forties here, but there you have it.
Someone that have survived monsoon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Says, happened in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I know, seriously, it probably goes back that far. Monsoon
says the Big King Conger making his way back out
of the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Oh, I fucking yep, I have that one, because he
sounds like a goofball, the.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Big King Conger making his way back into the ring
here in the garden.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I don't and that's not a thing the King call.
You can't just make that up. Fucking Christy with the
need of the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Gut, they slug it out of the corner of the
dog catching and said, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Later on we have the Big King Tonga.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
On King on King's Hawaiian I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Actually, I would imagine that my relatives would call him
the Big king tonger. My grandmother would probably calling that's
how ted Rzebi pronounced it. Damn might he did.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Dog catching up with some hands and head butt. Bundy
stumbles to the corner. Whipped the corner, Bundy hits and
kick kick fires off, and Monsoon says the ring is
shifted a foot and a half on that impact. Al
actually laughs at that, which is great. And then Bundy
runs over a dog with a clothesline makes him noise
like he's finishing an orgasm or something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
He drops a fist and gets two, digs in and
knead of the chest and gets two. Does Bundy Jyd
chance break out again as they come back up a
whip and Jyd ducks and starts throwing Bundy's wobbling big
head butt right downtown with a right hand. And finally
Bundy goes timber. That gets a pop and a two
count for the dog they bought. That one is the
near fall. The dog does the slow timber head butt

(01:24:29):
and lands on his fucking face like him, moron, there's
nothing When he misses that head butt, he looks like
the biggest.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Idiot in the world. Yep, And Bundy sorts so true,
just fucking again, a fucking goof.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
So both are now slugging it out on their knees
and Jyde's building back to his feet, and the chance
start going again, and all this guy's doing is punching,
and they're going crazy for the motherfucker. So credit to
the dog, three to the gut, one upstairs whip. Both
meet in the middle with a clothes line and go timber.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Nice visuals.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Both guys collide and fall, then both get up and
keeps slugging. One strapped down on Bundy. And when one
strapped is down on Bundy, you see a lot of
that of that chest. You see a lot more than
we're a customed to seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Oh, I know that's not not okay. Why I don't
know at all? It's not okay. It's not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Cuts dug off with a knee and a right down,
goes the dog of Bundy's saunders over and drops a
big elbow for two puts on a sleeper. Ref checks
jvd's arm. It drops three times. I promise, go and
count yourself. It drops three times, but the ref just
lifts it again. On the fourth he builds back up.
It's not a finish, Monson says, look at the cranium

(01:25:38):
on King Kong, Bundy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
They cut to heenan I'd rather not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
He's, of course cornering Bundy with his mouth frozen open
at ringside, fully focusing on what's happening, or maybe thinking
about something else entirely. But Al says, I don't know
if Joey De can breathe properly appropriately, depends what time
of night it is, Alfred.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Yeah, and if he's got to see papin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Wight he stands the or some back elbows, gets free,
comes off the ropes barely and goes for the tackle.
But Bundy doesn't budge another one. Jdy hits the ropes
like I'll tell JD hits the ropes like he's trying
to throw himself over them, you know, like he's trying
to take it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Yes, and then yeah, I could be the name of
fucking Bundy's autobiography. Bundy doesn't budge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Doesn't or fudge you the whale. Bundy doesn't fudge you
the whale. As he hits the ropes, this is a
big splash, quite the sight with one strap down, but
he misses the splash. JWD slugs away, hits the ropes,
but the brain grabs the leg. Camera totally misses that,
but it distracts dog. A dog puts him down and

(01:26:41):
Bundy splashes him and the bell goes off. Hayes doesn't
know if the ref counted him out or not. Well,
we didn't pick up whether our camera what even happened,
but indeed think takes the mic and announces the wonder
about as a result, they be disqualification is the junkyard
dog and heine Utell. Heenan's in there directing traffic, telling

(01:27:02):
Bundy to pick Jyd up, slaps him in the face
over and over again, sour look on his face, calling
for an avalanche on Bundy by Bundy, but jyd headbuts
Heenan his Bundy is charging and they collide. Bundy and
Heenan do and that is jyd out foxing the Heenan

(01:27:22):
family and King Kong.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Bundy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
He hits the floor, grabs the chain and they get
a they get animated as he raises his arm and
the dog in the spotlight. Now, Jean's gonna tell us
about Jimmy Jack funk?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (01:27:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
He's getting better.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Jesse Barr, the Funk family of Texas has produced a
series of rough and tumble customers for many, many years.
Dorry Funk Senior, Dorry Funk Junior, known as Haws Terrible Terry.
But I don't think there's ever been anybody quite like
the cousin Jimmy Jack Funk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Not wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
The man walks around with a hangman's noose. There is
a mask of the ring and come to think of it,
everywhere else and his behavior there could be a little doubt.
This young man is literally not it is right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Mind, Well, okay, if you if that's where you want
to play it, pal, what do you I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
The zero mask isn't a problem, right, it's it's it's
character enhancement exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Okay, listen, I listen. I have no problem with it.
I think it's a great idea. It's a great gimmick.
Everything about it is just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
All right, good, I'm glad you agree. Terry Gibbs is
back in our television. No, it is Tony Greea. Sorry,
not Terry Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I mean, seriously, might as well. He sucks as much.
So fucking hate Tony Garea.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Looks like a guy coming over for dinner. In nineteen
seventy nine in an apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
No, Tony Grea looks like a mom coming over to dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
He's doing all of the old Garden offense, the big
sunset flip and the build up of the punches and
funks crank and they fast forward and you know he's
doing the whole thing. Hey, if you look in the
and the balcony, you see that met Life logo that
Brian Penry ripped off to create the original WWF logo,
and they get.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
The CS insist. So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
That's whereably we got the inspiration from. You go to
the matches at the Garden and the fucking logos right
there in your face. Back up, Jimmy Jack Funk hooks
a sup lex but it's blocked, and Garrea lifts and
dump some of the big soup lex. Jimmy Hart grabs
the microphone during the course of the match from Gorilla
or tries to get in the commentary broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I just, yeah, I don't get this at all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Yeah, Mahena does it later too. I guess this was
a feature of the MSG broadcast. The heel manager's coming
over and stealing a word over the broadcast. Hart says
something to the efective ten thousand comedians out of work
and you're trying to be one. We're gonna win this match.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
I don't like. I'll tell you what I don't like.
I don't like Jimmy Hart managing the fund No.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
No, Jimmy Hart was giving so many random charges in
eighty six it was kind of stupid, actually. But he
also doesn't have to manage the hearts either. I mean,
didn't hurt the hearts, but not necessarily. Sorry, the hearts,
I'm okay with. I was okay with the heart because
because he is a heart. You know, that's kind of worked,
you know, like that. But the Funk's just weird, man,

(01:30:09):
It's just fucking weird. Both battling on their knees and
Grea rams Funk into the canvas. They pop for that,
Grea lifting the hands like come on? Does the Bruno
kicks even in a hip toss out of the corner
and a drop kick and Jimmy Jack Funk flips and
begs off in the corner. The crowd does not want
him to grant the reprieve, however, so Garia yanks Jimmy
Jack Funk out of the corner wishbones, his leg needs

(01:30:30):
him on the balls reversed his The Irish whip is
reversed though, and Tony Grea leaps into a cross body
and there's a sloppy catch from Jimmy jack Funk which
he converts converts to a lame power slam. I don't
know how this is the best of the WWF, but
it's one two three for Jimmy jack Funk aka Jesse
Barr the Bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
I actually didn't mind the power slam transition. That actually
didn't bother look for you. I was okay with it,
you know, because it it's one of those that it
could be slopped, that wouldn't be something that you would
do well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
And yes, if you're wondering, this is the same Jimmy
jack Funk that hung Ol Hayes from a tree during
the barbecue segment.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Line, which you know, obviously totally acceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Yeah, not mentioned ever again. Al Hayes. Harbor's no resentment
or grudge towards the man or anything like that, right,
who would? In commentating the match, he doesn't even bring
it up. Harley Race coming next, Jeane, I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah, yeah, here's all about Harlan's here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Harley Race is no stranger to wrestling fans. He has
been an active professional for more than twenty years, and
now he's come at last to the World Wrestling Federation POWFO.
We'll have more than his hands full with a man
who may not be as agile as Leap and Lannie,
but in ringing experience and no how there are few
that can match handsome Harley Race.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Well, there's least a little bit of acknowledgment of how
long he's been around. Sure you don't pretend he just
fell out of the sky against Lanny. I know this
is a Leap and Landy throwing the frisbees and writing
the poems, not genius PAFO and my god, does Race
not get right to business and brain bust the motherfucker
on the concrete or what?

Speaker 9 (01:32:12):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
It's so fucking just let him collapse downward and just
let the chips fall where they may. Jay Leno is
our REFEREEGI how about Harley and n w A trunks
and the WWF.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
He just looks like a like any very very very uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Al Haessao has that suppleness.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
I'm sorry, what now gross? He says He says this suppleness. Yes,
he says, yeah, I missed that one. I'm glad I did.
I'm glad I did not hear that because I would
have been forced to record it, which means I would
have heard it several times. Painful.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Oh what's wrong with hearing something several times that you've recorded?

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
By the way, now it's the suppleness that I'm concerned about.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
August, there we go, So comes brings him back in
with a BELLI to back for two. Has heen it
in this corner and signals that he thought it was three,
And Papa comes back, starts throwing some right hands, but
Harley with a head butt. Pafo drops like a rock
upon impact. Al says the Al Hayes says that Harley
Race's head is like a block of concrete. Mon Soon remarks,

(01:33:18):
the fans are very quiet here. Yep, Harley Ray's Harley
tearing it up in the garden.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Harley Ray, Yeah, exactly, hardly hardly mattering. Harley Race.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Race climbs the top rope and it's time for a
diving Headbut got to get these people involved, so it's
time to soar and he does, and another one the is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
He also going to make another short film for for
Saturday Night Live, like Albert Brooks used to fucking idiot.
He looks so the blonde hair, the no facial hair,
he looks like a fool, looks like he's auditioning to
be the blob in an X Men movie. You really,

(01:34:04):
I mean he he He's also got like, you know,
elements of like a like a grandma, Like that's what
I'm Kelly type grand Does you know losing a chain
smoking grandma? He does? You really, we're seeing here is unfortunate?
What what what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
I just said, what we're seeing here is unfortunate. Is
And he still thinks he's the Hasha Harley race Ha Shah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Shah. But me but dumb bitch, but a charlat day.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
As another headbutt from race, Pafa goes through the ropes
and hits the floor hard, and then I called them
Bobo hits the concrete hard too. He black bumps off
a right hand and you hear the splat my gun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Oh it is it is just not okay. The sound
the sounds are awful, awful, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Eden says it looks like a jumbo jet landing at
LaGuardia without wheels. He's got the mic. By the way,
he comes over to the table, and you can get
a little glimpse of the chemistry of gorilla. Monsoon and
Bobby Heenon to come yes during this interplay during the
course of the contest, and he says, I could care
less of Lenny Pofo or any or anyone's career, care

(01:35:27):
less about it. I don't even care about your career. Monsoon,
he says, just shot right, it's awesome, and Monsoon deploying
something he deployed quite a bit, calling Bobby Heenon a
saying he just spouted wisdom from the fountain of misinformation, misinformation.
I'm gonna bring that one back, Fountain of misinformation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
It's a good one. It is a good one. I'll
say that that's one of the that's one of gorillas
better better phrases.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Fascinating to get a glimpse kind of of gorilla. At
the MSG table, he's got the rotary telephone on there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
He's got a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Sheet all marked up on both sides like he's checking
off winters and losers on the bout his format sheet.
Oh my god, what's on the table?

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
What does he need.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Does he need a certain soft drink?

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Does he pencils? Of course he does soft dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
One time someone leaked like the things Vince has to
have in his dressing room for tapings on the road,
and he's like specific about how many highlighters and pens
sharpened pencils, notepads. Hilarious because he needs to work in
his office, right right, right, give me a break. Flash
forward pofos fighting from the bottom, Harley coming back with

(01:36:37):
the peshaw head butt by race whips reversed, Harley does
another and uh, it looks he's gonna kind of do
the bust and crab. It's weird. So instead of her kanana, okay,
Lanny's feet end up under the armpits like Harley's gonna
give me a catapult, and then Lanny still he's still ranas.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Yeah, this was that was a That was a crazy
ass fucking move.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I don't know if he meant to land on Harley
Show and Harley didn't take it the right way, but
he still rolled Harley over convincingly. I guess if you
kind of jump up and put your feet under the
shoulders instead of over the shoulders and you just snap
back and still look okay, it gets too Pafo with
the dropkicks sends Harley to the apron. He tries another
and Harley comes in with the head scissors and man,

(01:37:19):
do they struggle with some head scissors here?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Jesus yes, Oh, it's not good. It's really not good
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
And he goes up and he's floating for like twenty
five seconds waiting for something to happen with his legs
wrapped around Harley for the headlocked takeover, the head scissor takeover. Finally,
Harley drops down and Lanny consequently lands on the top
rope throat first. That allows Harley Race to lift and
hit a basically a fisherman's buster on Lanny Pofo, which
is wild thing about his WWA finisher being that, but

(01:37:44):
indeed it was upon landing kind of like a perfect plex.
It's a one to two and three. Harley Race defeats
leaping Lanny Pofo and thank god, and we move forward,
talk about John Studd now and more in the studio
with gene Oakerland great, just fucking great.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
H here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Ever since Wrestle Media in March of nineteen eighty five,
Big John Studd has continually made two claims. First, he
was to be regarded as the true giant of wrestling,
as opposed to Andre the Giant, and secondly, no one
could slam him. If the footage were about to see,
Stud issues a new body slam challenge where he is
willing to face two men at once. If either man

(01:38:28):
is successful in slamming Stud in the ring, Maddager Bobby
the Brainheenen will pay that man fifteen thousand dollars. But
as you will see, along with the Giant John Studd,
pro wrestling does have its surprises.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Oh my god, he just fucking rambles on and on
and on and on. Yeah, it's like they have like
a I don't know what do you want to call it?
A quota?

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Basically like a quota he's gonna follow, Yeah, seriously, it
really it almost feels like he has to say so
many words otherwise he's fired. It's time for a King
Tong gonna step into the spotlight. Did you know, according
to WWIF Magazine Boss, on any given night, World Wrestling
Federation dressing rooms can be a united nations of sorts.
I did not know that King Tonga is a soft

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spoken gladiator from the island of Tonga, and it consists
of one hundred and fifty islands. Yes, indeed, wait, wait,
the island of Tonga consists of two hundred fifty islands.
His homeland is an island kingdom northeast of New Zealand
and south of Samoa. Tonga consists of one hundred and
fifty islands.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
It says, how does an island consist of more islands?
Great question, It's a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
This is what it says in the magazine any resting
on coral or topped by dormant volcanoes. I see he
cannot be mistaken for anyone else when he enters the ring,
for he wears a headband of island shells and a
grass skirt. Of course, like we all are to a
warrior tradition. He says, I have the strength and science

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to beat anyone talked about him strength and science, science,
He's the regular scientist. They talk about how he was
a sumo in Japan in the seventies and how pro
wrestling require is faster and requires much more agility, which
he says suits him. And before long WWF magazine informs

(01:40:18):
us King Tonga was wrestling around the Orient, then in
North America, and his path eventually led him to the WWF.
His years in sumo training built a men's strength. They
talk about his ring maneuvers, they talk about how he
worked his way up the ranks, going solid victories, and
he's also teamed up with Ricky Steamboat on occasion as

(01:40:39):
both strike with karate chops and kicks. So the idea
is that somehow the Tongans are martial arts experts as well.
I won't begin too speculate as to why that they
thought that was appropriate casting in that regard. And that's
basically the state of where King Tonga stood at the
time of this big angle for him. As he steps up.

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John Stud's in the ring doing the fifteen thousand dollars
body slam challenge. Bruno's on commentary, I tell you what,
you might just do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
It, So Stud's got I tell you way you might
just do it. Vince mcmah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Studd has two pre clear Drabbronis who are gonna try
to slam him, and it's basically a handicap match where the.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Fucking Jim powers and Rick hunters Jim powers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Early Jim power siding. This is like proposition by Pat Patterson,
Jim Powers and tong is in there trying to negotiate
an opportunity to slam Stud. But all Studd wants to
do is wrestle these two dickheads and destroy them. They
can beat him if they slam them. But Vince says
on Commentary's Tongue must wait his turn, and Stud takes

(01:41:47):
off the jacket. Nothing more in stalented than those white
pants with the blue stars on John Studd. As I
had the thumb wrestler, first toy I had. I still
remember it. I was young enough I put everything in
my mouth. Still I can still remember how the the
rubber of those things taste when you chewed, because you
must chew, And maybe that explains a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
John Studd is like a lollipop, That's how he was,
and he yeah, I treated him like one, or at
least his thumb wrestler. He's got that fucking a tiny
tiny like not tiny, but like long skinny legs, but
then he's got this kind of bulging upper body.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
And speaking of guys who testified on Hogan's, Vince's trial
that was via telephone because he was so sick with his.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Can't about my trial brother.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Walker trial had John's stud brother who was long gone.
You're talking about Ron Reed brother, You're talking about John Study.
Wait a minute, who are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Tongu.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
That's a good question. Hawk, who is he gonna slam?

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Hawk? Who is talk to a brother? Who t n
h Josh Dude Roller. Great questions, very relevant questions, good questions,
the kind of questions that need immedia amstering.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Inan is out there weasel chant Who's first?

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
That's not exact.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
It's like the inverse of what Goldberg says who's first?
And Rick honters verse that's not gonna happen? Who they're
trying to lift him? And Bruno's faulting them for technique
because he says, which is a good point, like you
can't just deadlift a guy who's standing there waiting to
take it. You got to soften him up so that
you can use his momentum against him. When you scoop
him up, these guys are gonna a chance to brace

(01:43:28):
themselves and use their balance to counteract. Still Powers tries
and comes a bit close to body slamming, but it
just doesn't happen. Vince says, you know Stud's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Rake the eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
If you come close, he's not going to be slammed, yep.
And indeed he shakes them off and starts punches and
slams and power slams Hunter, and then Vince points out
that this is they're supposed to be a tag team unit,
but they have to both face that at the same time.
Powers ducks and hits a dropkick, tries a body slam.
It's not working.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Yeah, it's all bad. And yeah, yeah you gets a
couple like little close calls, but it's just not good.
It's just stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Yeah, we're playing out the string here to get the
big conga spot. Stud clubs them down every time they
try to do something and then lifts and slams Hunter
with a clean body slam and covers them for the
one two three, winning the handicap match, does Big John
Stud and after the Bally slams him again and you know,
doing doing heelish things. And this is when King Tonga

(01:44:26):
comes out as it is, Stud slams Jimmy Powers Tonga,
catches up to Stud with Dig Chops and.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
And they go nuts. They go absolutely nuts, Chops and
the fucking starts salivating. John Studd.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
They go nuts when Tonga lifts and slams John Studd.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
Listen, it is it is the most inappropriate thing, but
I have to say it was exciting as well. The
fact that people are cheering for Haku like he's a
fucking main eventor one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Of the kind of an early iteration of the USS
and trepid slam here is exactly. Tonga steps up when
others are trying their hand at the sweepstakes and body
slams Jim Big John Studd rather cleanly here, and the
crowd going eight for the guy, so it seems like
tongue's gonna matter. Then we go to the Garden and
they kind of protect the guy honestly in the match.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
They do, they really do.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
For some reason, the voiceover is way low on this one,
so we hear mostly any crowd noise, although you do
hear Grill Monsoon talk about fountains of misinformation. So actually
maybe it's another match where it's really low in the beginning,
it was just low anyway, you know, they go back
and forth. Stud actually grabs the mic before the match
and you know, corrects the announcer Howard Finkland says, that's

(01:45:41):
the giant Stud that's how you are to refer to
me and Grilla, Monsoon says. Tongua is saying, where's my
fifteen k He's still trying to collect and they just
didn't pay him, which just hilarious. I guess he wasn't
officially in the body slam contest. That might be the
loophole they use. Yeah, Al doesn't know why Monsoon King

(01:46:04):
Tonga hasn't been paid, and Monsoon says, you know, there's
no excuse. It was on national television this whole thing.
So Stud throws and slams Tonga, and you know, Lord
Al says that a stud is so vast, which is
one way to put it. Monsoon tes to counteract the characterization,
which apparently legitimately bothered under the Giant, that Big John

(01:46:26):
Studd was being presented as a the real true giant
of the WWF. So Monsoon says, I know a guy
from the French Alps by the name of Andre who
would take exception to this. Tonga starts chopping and throwing
its stud, mixing in the throat thrust. Stud tries to
slam him, but Tonga does the go behind and keeps throwing,
and then he lifts stud and who grabs the top rope,
refusing the slam. They popped big though at the implication

(01:46:49):
or the indication that Tonga was about to slam him
to the apron. They go and Stud tries a forearm,
but Tonga blocks it and chops away, and he brings
in Stud, who grabs the top rope to prevent problems
and corners Tonga. Stud whip's tongue out of the corner
and charges at him with the clothes line, and Monsoon
says Tonga is too preoccupied with body.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Slam, aren't we all?

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Yes, Stud just clubbing Tonga. Hiptos dropped down two for Stud.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Just a big John stude, big stude.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
He would move, he would lumber around that ring man
would lumber the terrific camera shot from our number four handheld.
Monsoon calls out, the fuck that's I think I see
Mel Phillips on the movement ring side. There's a number
four handheld for you, number four cockhand Vince. Vince's worried
about the number two handheld.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
They don't put over camera shots anymore. Yet they're more
extravagant than ever. I wonder, I know, right, But that's
about Finally, Tongo breaks free with some of the martial
arts we're told about, hits a crescent kick with his
bare foot dropkick, sends Stud into the into the corner,
into the ropes rather Tongue is chopping away, goes for
a slam and both go over the top to the floor,

(01:48:02):
and Tonga hits hard both.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
I don't know if the slam works. Al says he
could see all of his bones cracking on that impact
on the floor. But no, Tonga is still throwing on
the outside and he slams Big John Studd on the
outside of the ring, and the crowd goes absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Crazy for that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
The bell sounds they've both been counted out, but they're
battling like crazy. I mean, these guys are throwing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
It takes.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
It lasts like ten minutes. They're just standing there looking
at each other, and then Tonga goes in with hard
shots and Stud comes over the top of those clubbing blows,
and they are throwing live rounds. As far as I
can tell, they are really trying to stiffen this thing up.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
And I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
It makes Tonga look like an absolute fucking badass that
he can withstand this three hundred and seventy pounder pounding
on him over and over again. I don't know, man,
I had no idea that they managed to get people
to care about Tonga like this so early on. I
can see a real babyface run here, I know what
that's a thing, like you really can, but it's it's

(01:49:03):
not to be, not to be.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Tongue even holds the ropes wide open.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
What a badass.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
It kind of casts Studd in an unflattering light. The
way the look on his face was to me, it's
almost like he's being taken advantage of, like like Stud was,
I don't know, being being made out to be much
more vulnerable and helpless against King Tonga than he was
comfortable with or necessarily planned on being. But that's what
we see. Stud's on his way shoving Heen into the side.
Because he comes back, he fights again. After it seems

(01:49:29):
like it's over with five minutes of hardcore brawling in
the aisleway, and Tonga gets in the ring. You expect
Stud to take the powder as the heel, but no,
he actually gets in the ring and accepts Tonga's invitation
to keep brawling. And they fight and they fight, and
they fight, and finally officials come out and stop the
whole thing and they do a freeze frame finish on
the face of of Tonga. So now it's time for

(01:49:50):
the ted Ar City match, and we'll keep this one shortened.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
As here here's a here's Gene introducing the match.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Obviously, one of the prime requirements for a professional wrestler
is strength, and there have been few new entries with
more raw strength than ted Rcit. This young man already
possesses a world record at the bench press more than
seven hundred pounds. And as you'll see here, our City
uses his power to here's advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
So many entries, that's the fucking so many entries, great
point entries. Brother, they tried to top prist lock.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Yeah, what do you entries do? What do you mean what, brother,
entries do not enter? That's right exactly to pristlock. Our
City yanks into the canvas terry. Gibbs has complained to
the raft. Monsoon says he's got an awful lot of
oil on him.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Yeah, they got this bit here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Gibbs' question a referee. He said, he's got an awful
lot of oil on us. He swarming the channel tonight.
Our wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
But I don't know, but I'm flipping it gives might
have a point the actually.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
I but I'm sure the referee checked him for oil.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Wait some of the oil checks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
I don't know if he's swimming the channel, but I'm changing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
The channel, that's for sure. Let me tell you, damn right,
just turn out the whole fucking TV.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Our City lifts Gibbs and power personified and puts him
on the ropes and uh and then uh, Terry Gibbs
leaps into a shoulder tackle. But our City's not budging.
He's just too big. He side steps and other applies
to full Nelson. Those socks are high on Tedar City.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Oh man, my god, it's just a lot of a
lot going on. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
So Gibbs puts his legs on the top rope and
so fine, you can do that. Tennor City will just
let you fall, and he does, and that can set
a jolt of thunder up your spine. According to Lord
Alfred Hayes, as mon Soon says he would like the
He'd like to see ted Our City against King Kong Bundy.
And I'm just like, my god, what I'd not like

(01:52:00):
to see that?

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Why do they want to Why do they want to
torture a horrible match that would be Yeah, what a
horrible idea. Terry Gibbs us all over our city selling
on the ropes, hits the ropes and slugs the monsoon
says it's sooner or later he's going to get the
big guy in the mass. That's another problem. I don't
want Terry Gibbs all over our cities, I know, or
our television. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Then Taylor City drops the straps to no reaction whatsoever,
and people could care less about this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Being in the ring he's throwing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
That's such a misunderstand that's such a misunderstanding about the time.
Is like, yeah, sure Vince was hiring just bodies, but
it's like the fans embraced you just on the basis
of body, you know, right. I Mean, these guys got jobs,
they got merchandising contracts, they made big money to come
and become wrestlers out instead of bouncers or bodybuilders. That
is true, but it's not exactly correct to say that

(01:52:54):
that was happening because that's what the fans expected wrestling
to look like at the time, or wanted wrestlers to
look like because they were just as likely to go
crazy for a guy in WWF who didn't look like
that as they were someone who did, just because Hogan
looked that way. It's like, you look at his that's
like two percent of it. It's it's the incredible promos
and charisma. The size is there and it's important, but

(01:53:16):
you're really missing the plot if you look at how
over Hogan got and how he revolutionized the appeal of
the NWF and think, all right, what that means is
we just need a lot of people with his body.
It's like, no, it's like if it's everything but the
body that accounts for why Hulk Hogan is huln. It's
an important part of the package, but it's the it's
the one that's least. It's it's the quality you should

(01:53:37):
spend the least amount of time, just because there's all
these hopeless fucking bodybuilders out there who have no career prospects,
who will work for pennies just to feel like stars.
Because if they don't feel like stars, they're going to
put a gun in their mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
What a business. So that's what we deserve, what they deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
I think everyone, I think in the end everyone they deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
That's right, exactly, You're damn right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
That's absolutely correct. And so yeah, Monsoon says, sooner or later,
this thing's gonna get the big guy mad. This guy's
gonna get the big guy mad, and soon it'll be over. Yeah,
I definitely get it's get the bad guy or the
big guy. Definitely get a rye back vibes from ted RCD,
maybe the first coming of rye back, perhaps in some ways.
So ted ARCD drops the straps to no reaction. If

(01:54:24):
only he dropped whatever titles he had as well, throwing
big hands, whipping a bear hug and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Call for the taxi.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
This one's over, Monsoon says, yes, folks, ted Our City's
finisher was a bear hug after he dropped the straps, and.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
That was the victory. I mean great.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Absolutely ref is falling on his face, trying to stop
ted or City from going after Terry Gibbs for some
more action.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Yeah, well you know what, he's fallen in his face.
I'm falling asleep. Yeah, this whole tape is falling on
its face on Hernandez. Oh, yes, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
It's not without good reason. That pretty Flashy is called
a manager extraordinaire. Throughout his long career, he has discovered
more than his shareoff wrestlers and to his credit, has
produced the number of world title holders. His latest find,
just take a look at this awesome specimen is Hercules Bernandez.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
So he's got Wyndham and Spivey and what Brody and Hercules.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
He's pretty much Honestly, that's exactly what I mean. He
does look just like fucking Brody and that's events back
then I wrote down. He wants everyone that's over in
the business. He wants to sign them right and make
them ww F wrestlers and WWF and I job them
out well. But the ones he can't get, he just
recreates like Wyndham and Brody and and it's about some

(01:55:42):
others that I'm missing right now. But yeah, certain points,
like Hernandez is cranking at Chinlock, he's kind of doing
a bit of a huss you know, He's like making
noises and things like that. M hmm, Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Cousin Junior gets way too much offense in here. He's
like got huge hope spots and everything. During the course
of the match.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
What the fuck are we doing with this cousin, Judie,
mother fucker. I mean, I'm I'm so sick of these
fucking hillbillys. It was such a bad idea, but I
guess it worked for a little while. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Shout out to uh the patron who noted that a hillbilly.
Jim's push was eighty four nine eighty six. Yes, in
the beginning of the Coloseum collection, we saw much more
of that. And then he heard his He slipped on
the floor and fucking broke his leg and that was it. Idiot,
I mean, God bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
But she's.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
So blast. He's out there tapping Junior with the cane,
telling him to get in the ring, calling him a hillbilly,
blah blah blah. I want you to quickly considered that
Junior's bare feet were on the concrete of the garden. No,
I mean, listen, there's just so any chances feet, just
so much shit, any chance his feet chased like chicken
stock after that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Yes, I mean one hundred percent. But that was before
you even to the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
He tries a sunset flip from the apron, but her
Nandas punches him down and drops a broke if I've
ever seen one cranking away, they flash forward, he's still
cranking and can imagine what they cut out. Oh my god,
if this is what they kept. We have a drop down.
Luke kicks him and starts doing his dance, starts landing
some big right hands on Hernandez, but he tucks in

(01:57:17):
a pretty nice sidekick to the throat and a running
knee and then he body slams him and he climbs
and leaps and misses a big flying fist does Hercules Hernandez.
They explode on that he moves around the ring pretty well.
I got to give that too.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
It's fine, it's just that. But again, like these weird
fucking like why are the people who you're highlighting not
doing well? Yes, most they all win, but they don't
do well, don't know, because they're showing like training matches. Essentially,
they're showing guys. Remember the SID match we watched during
the SID tribute where he wrestled Dbiasse in the dark
match before anyone ever saw him, and they were testing

(01:57:51):
him out as a baby face, and he sounded like crazy,
and you get the idea that he's actually out there
just trying to show vince that he can do more
than one thing in the ring as far as it's like, yeah,
you know, position in a match. So finally Hercules Hernandez
slams them climbs up missus the fist. As I explained,
Luke rallies with a whip and a backdrop, writes reversed. Yeah,
and then it's here that Hernandez lifts Luke. He flies behind,

(01:58:14):
They do the O'Connor roll. He barely turns him over,
does Luke. He really struggles to get the roll up
in and it's just really bad. How Hernandez just has
to reverse it without any power move or anything. He
just rolls up Cousin Junior for the three. I mean,
I don't know. I guess last year was supposed to
be distracting Luke. It looked like shit, Luke, I just

(01:58:34):
don't I don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Well, if you don't get that, how about Pedro Morales
versus Adrian Adonnas in the Garden in nineteen eighty two
for the Intercontinental title. Who the fuck knew about this?
Oh my god, Skinny he is we were just talking
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
I was so excited, and that was like I said before,
but so disappointed we did not get a Pedro screamfest
from the fan. He's pelting donnas out of the gate.
He is, but but there's a difference. You know, you
want that and maybe it happens in this match, but
we just don't have it here. But it's always it
always comes from the crowd, is like it is desperate

(01:59:11):
for the baby face to come back, and so they're
not and and so it's always the baby face comeback
that does the triss And I didn't. It did not
happen in this match, like the way that I the
way that I am used to, I.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Agree, it's it doesn't check the box we're looking for
when going to these uh Pedro Bruno matches from the garden.
He's throwing and a Donna's at one point tries to
do that bump used to do where he ties his
arms up in the rope and back flip and get
tied up and oh my god, that he doesn't get it.
The ropes let him go. When he hits the floor hard.
He hits the floor really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
From the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Morales throws Adonis's head first in the post. There must
be a microphone in there. Because you heard a huge
loud boom when a Donna's hit that post. And then
Morales slingshots Adrian Dedona's back into the ring the hard
way after ramming him into the post again, big left hand.
A Donnis soars like mister perfect through the year. When
he gets punched, he goes off to the side. Man
he goes soaring, whipped to the corner and Pegro Morales

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misses a flying corner shoulder block and goes splat on
the canvas. You want to hear a ring rattle watch
these fucking nineteen eighty two garden matches.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
Seriously, is so uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
And then the worst German I think ever in the business.
And that's that's including yes, I mean is the worst
German since Hitler. Okay, I mean this is like and
he just falls backwards and Morales lands on top of
a Donnis and they're supposed to be the double Penn thing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
It's it's it's just pathetic.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
And at the last second, Morales raises his shoulder so
that the three count is registered Underdonnas and not him.
Adnnas thinks he's won the thing, but Morales has declared
the winner and the referee explains this to Adrian Adonnas
and he is furious, and Vince calls it a very
controversial decision. Ten minutes forty seven seconds the winner and
still in a continental champion. Pedro Morales rellated shit after
the match of Donna attacks him. Barely did ship absolutely? Yeah,

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it was very brief, very very abbreviated. And then we
have one more archival match. It's it's a total nothing
burger between Pat Patterson and Loue Albano. The flab what
on the two ninety seven pounds of caramel caramel New
York camel. Oh my god, that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Patterson is gonna take him out. He's just you know,
I mean you this is this to me is well,
well you know we're gonna well listen, lose gone, Let's
fucking bury the shit out of him. Oh my god,
you know that's what this is. Yeah, you're right, that's
what this. Absolutely he would have left by now right,
left you managing the Bulldogs. I wonder how he's portrayed

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it at all on the tape, the Bulldogs tape coming up. Yeah,
that's true, big a great point. I mean Captain Leeue
all Banno has been such a key part of the
Colisseum collection.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
His own tape. The first thing is all him. He's
on the jacket of the first thing, hitting the wall
some owens. That matchs played a hundred times where they
lost the belts to Johnson and Atlas, and all of
the T and T segments and the Papuffnick and the
fucking you know, the electrical shock to George Steele and
the in the Psychologist's chair, and all the matches they

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played that he not only managed champions in the past,
but participated in as a wrestler. Yep, And here it
is one last time. He's running around the ring blading
his forehead with a blade and his thumb tape. He's
not bumping, he's not bumping. He's walking around the ring
like a toy soldier out exactly, you know. And Patterson
just punching him a few times. And I mean, this guy,
you punch him in the head. Albano at this stage

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so fat, you punch him in the head. Instead of
like falling through the ropes, he would literally put his
foot through the ropes like you would climbing in and
out of the ring on your own volition.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Right, Well, I got it. Well, you know, I don't
even like you talk right through it all. Yeah right,
I mean think about that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
You hit your opponent. Instead of him stumbling through the
ropes to the apron, you hit him in the head.
And then he steps over the middle rope like he's
leaving the ring.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
Well, he's not gonna hurt himself, Okay, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
And then finally he just steps down the steps with
a bloody forehead, make sure you know people see it,
and walks to the back. Quicky quits and that's what
he used to do.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
This is a bitch. This is a fucking bit.

Speaker 2 (02:03:15):
That's the extent of it. Okay, he's gone, makes his
way up the aisle, and the announcement has made the
bad Patterson is the victor, And finally Gino Glen introduces
a match that Mike Fiddling more snuggly into the idea
of a best WWF at the time, Jake Roberts versus
Ricky the Dragon's Steamboat.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Nineteen eighty six in the Chinese calendar is the year
of the Tigers, but within the World Wrestling Federation, the
battle just rages on to see if this will be
the Year of the Snake or the year of the
dragon one contestant, a fine young gentleman Ricky the Dragon's
steamboat opposing him our vicious dare I say it sadistic individual?

(02:03:55):
Jake the Sneak Robert.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
It is the third time on the Colisseum video collection
for Chair. If you caun't listening too, we've only gotten
sparing glimpses, so I know.

Speaker 1 (02:04:06):
It's been very very quiet for Jake for the most part.
He's got his own tape, Yes he does. That's a
great point.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
As he settles in as one of the top names
in the company, it's still early days for him as
he sends in an Irish whip and a boot to
the gut steamboat, still wearing his headband during matches. By
the way back then, yes, and his also his hair
were so short. I don't know why they're talking about
the Chinese New Year with this Japanese martial artist slash
Hawaiian in the ring. But it's fine, that's fine. He's Chinese, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Isn't Asian? Asian? Doesn't that work?

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
So our restaurants, that is the case, but not all
so what he goes to hook the DDT, but steamboat
slips out, chops and writes in a bellody belly and
a mountain, he's raining down punches. Here is steamboat, but
the ref keeps dragging him off. This ref is so
hands on, so handsy, and al Hayes loses his mind
because he can't gene kiniski Jesus, I know he does.

(02:05:01):
He resembles that remark. Al Hayes says he was striking
him with his palm. It's a legitimate heel of the
hand blow. He totally loses his mind.

Speaker 9 (02:05:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
Monsoon says the ref has no authority whatsoever to put
his hands on a wrestler, which I thought was the
most ridiculous thing Monsoon has ever said. What do you
mean the referees have all the authority in the world
to grab the wrestlers, of course, move them around.

Speaker 1 (02:05:22):
What are you going to do if they if they
fucking you know, if they don't like go of a choke,
or if they don't exactly you know.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
You step in between them all the time. I know
he's freaking out. Read the rule book, fella, the rule book.
What is he a little league?

Speaker 9 (02:05:34):
Dad?

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
Read the rule book?

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
Three?

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
This is like an equivalent of the whole fucking no
DQ thing from the savage very much.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
So yeah, there's no d Q STIPs that Monsoon doesn't
even know about or forgot about. And he's calling the
match completely missing the idea that like what's happening is
par for the course. So Robert slides in, but steamboats
on him whip reversal and steamboat with a baseball slide underneath.
But Jake absolutely nails him on the right hand and
points his finger at the crowd like, not so fast,

(02:06:01):
that's Jake, jakeson Jake's y.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
He's not worn down yet. Listen, he's here to play Jake. Jake.
Is Jake correct? It's correct?

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
Okay, I'm glad you know it's fucking Jake. Best of
hard whip and a hard lariat, tight by. Jake puts
down Ricky. Now we're playing short arm clothesline by Roberts.
He points to the snake sack in the corner and
Monson says his compadre is inside that bag, and Lord
El says he seems to have some mystical influence over
these serpents.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
Okay, don't we all?

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
Jake tossed the steamboat over the top, which would be
a DQ in the NWA, but not here in the
word Rossly Federation Steamboat throws his shoulders from the apron
does the sunset, but Jake holds on and leads a
punch between the eyes to prevent being pulled down. Young
Jake looking like I don't know a guy at the
bar in eighty six.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
That's all I can.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
He looks very plain in a way, you know, he
does like every guy back there st Yeah, he's like
a cigarette smoker, you know of nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
He does. Honestly, he could if he he had a
cowboy hat, he could be like a fucking Marlboro guy.

Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
Inverted atomic drop by Roberts barking at eye level at Ricky,
throwing punches at him and steps into a great lift
and delaid slam goes to the throat, and al Hayes says,
Roberts has that sinew strength like Bob Orton does. That
is to say they don't have a lot of defined musculature,
but we want you to believe that they are physical threats.
Jake Roberts slam Steamboat or hard and goes to the bag.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
Someone telled Ted Orc that exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
The crowd starts to shriek at what might be in
the bag. And now Hay says Jake's obsession with the
snake could be his downfall, which I think is a
comment that you could really trace through the rest of
his life.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
Yeah, he could, Jake Roberts. I mean, listen, we all
know we you know, we don't know how he handles
the snake outside of the ring.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
We can guess, but we don't know for sure. Robert
sees steamboat recharging, regathering himself. So he hit some of
the knee lift, and my god, as he goes sky
high because because he hits the buckles, he misses.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
Right, he misses the right. I want to say, he
misses that nee lift. Steamboat.

Speaker 2 (02:08:01):
The neck breaker in another al calls him snake Roberts
over and over again. If I think it's funny, he says,
I don't know what's snake. I don't know it's snake
Roberts is seeing now, but it must be many many stars. Indeed,
I'm like, wait, I.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Also don't know who snake Roberts is seeing.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Now he sees many many stars? Is he already in
the locker room? So Ricky takes off the middle rope
of a splash but lands on the hard knees of
Jake Roberts, who comes up and toss the steamboat over
the ropes. Steamboat lands in the apron, though Jake slugs
him and drops him. Some guy producing in the Nelson
Swegler chairs pumping his fists and support of Ricky steamboat.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
I don't know who that guy is.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
As Jake hooks the DDT and ther on the concrete
to repeat the concrete DDT, he hits steamboat with legitimately
knocking him out. Shortly after debuting in the WWF. That
was a huge angle of the time. But to counter that,
steamboat drives Jake's back into the corner of the ring
and then the rail. Jake runs the razor because the
industry demands real blood.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Of course, listen, listen, all right, look, Jake pours hot
thank you to show the fans that sometimes it's okay
to believe.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Oh perfect boss, that is fucking spot on. Steamboat throws
Roberts back in the ring, even uses the announced table
as a step ladder to climb back in.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
Goes to the door his environment Ricky steamboat. He comes up.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
Jake comes up flailing, turns in with top rope Doublack
sandle from Steamboat and Jake sells head over heels, takes
a big bump and convulses on the canvas. Ricky fired
up catnip for the crowd.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
They love it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
He grabs Jake with the left throws at the right.
He's grabbing Jake with the hair by the hair in
his left hand and he's punching him with his right hand.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
The raft finally peel Steamboat off of Roberts. I guess
arguing the closed fists. Steamboat shoves the ref and Monsoon
can only decry the referee intervening for a second time,
and Al says, you know. Al Ha says, that was
a karate move that Ricky Steamboat was using. That was
not your traditional closed fist punch.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
Steam goes to the little rope inverted. He's raining down
punches now on Roberts. The ref does it again. He
grabs him again, and al hayes, why is he doing that?
He says, definitely looks like Jake paid off the refe
or the way he's acting. Jake tries to DDT, but
Steamboat's able to backdrop out of it. But Jake with
an up kick off of his back, using his lankys

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to nail steamboat in the mouth. Al says, Jake hasn't
been successful with the d DT yet. Now he had
been three times the locker room, figuring out his locker room,
figuring out the counter. That's the question. I think we
have to consider boss Ah, that is it?

Speaker 1 (02:10:33):
That is it? And then how is Jake on the
count of the count? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Jake digging in the corner with some punches, and Al says,
ricky steamboat is still dying and dying hard. But finally
the steamboat kicks up out of the corner and Jake
collapses back onto the referee. At this point, steamboat leaps
down onto Jake and starts throwing punches from the mount.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
It's it's like a weird it's it's it's like a
it's a grounded fez press.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
It is because he's already on the floor when the
malt sound and steamboat gets free, and now he's going
off on the wound.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
Jake's head bleeding still very much.

Speaker 2 (02:11:02):
So it gets so crazy that Tiger Chung Lee and
Paul Christian and Brett Hart and others have to come
in and pull steamboat off of Jake.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Roberts, Yep, it's just an awful way to fucking end
the tape, the final match on the final so many
non finishes in this tape too. You could do? Could
you have? You choose? You choose which match to end
the tape? Ones you do, and you choose one that's
a non finish.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Watching the Schmas and then all of a sudden it
hits the music. I'll tell you When I see that,
executive producer Arthur Morowitz title, I get a pit in
my stomach, like it's over. I feel like I got
to go to school tomorrow. When I see that, I
know you know what I mean. Yeah, that's the end
of yet another edition of The Colosseum Collection ev Ard Enterprises,
Copyright nineteen eighty six. Coming up next in the three

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peat Best of WWF Volume nine, The British Bulldogs and
WWF Inside the Steel Cage. Sure you want to write
the Colosseum Collection. That's four thirty West fifty fourth Street, Hey,
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Times Square hard and an unforgettable fashion. But the next

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time we're with you here on the main show, I
don't know it's July. I'm worried about halt.

Speaker 10 (02:12:19):
Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (02:12:21):
Just a few days, the world will celebrate the twenty
fifth anniversary of one of the greatest moments in the
history of the twentieth century, man's first steps on the
surface of the Moon. Tonight, a quarter of a century later,
just miles from the very site where Neil Armstrong and
Buzz Aldron, we're kind of pulled it into outer space

(02:12:42):
to meet their destiny. Tonight, two of the greatest stars
in the world a professional wrestling are about to collide.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
We'll see you next time. Bash at the Beach ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:12:54):
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