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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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by the hall here before our very eyes and Nash,

(04:10):
it's it's been to yet. It it's been another successful
Christmas at TLFHQ. Indeed, I can't honestly. I mean there's
what I and we were talking about this before, the
idea that we haven't really promoted this. Usually we start
spring summertime and it just you know, it just often

(04:33):
going on, the lop being going on. You know, people
have died, you know, we have journeys to take, and
you know, we got to talk about Sir Jillione and
so all these things, and we didn't really even talk
about it. And then you what, like a month ago
we we actually promoted it for like the first time,
and still it didn't matter. I mean, the box was Fullah,

(04:56):
the box was full. Yeah, I sort of a I
sort of felt compunction to bring it up, but I
was like, you know what, maybe we let's dial it
back a little bit, because every year we get so
much more than we know what to do with. And
there are people I know who have already bought for
next year. Why they can't give it to us this year.
I don't understand, but whatever I suppose, but nonetheless, it's

(05:16):
just insane. Folks, folks, Oh god, the TLF Christmas Show.
It's the Unwrapping four twenty twenty five, the first unwrapping
post the death of Hulk Hogan, and we're in a
new world and we have all the physical evidence of
a new world order that we could possibly help for.
I mean that the po box has been bursting at

(05:38):
the seams with acts of generosity from the best listeners
and podcasting, and it's always such a thrill to salute
what we've built together, Yes, each and every holiday season,
and today certainly no exception, as the boss is unloaded
on us here with so many gifts. Well, and the
difference there is a dicky difference this year. And I mean,
by the time this drops, there'll be no secret that

(06:01):
we're together the Sunday before Johnsen's final Boston Garden Show.
But it's like this is the first time we've done
it at your house, That's correct, Yeah, that is that
is a twist this year because the time, yes, the
last time is now. Last time was now and I
had the feeling that Yeah, by the time people have
heard our reaction to that final John scene to TV
Guarden appearance, that will have been the last time for

(06:21):
us as well. And in the fact that this is
we're doing this before that, which is hilarious is that
I can tell you honestly, I'm not looking forward to
going like I have no I really am at the
point where I just don't enjoy going to live events.
It sounds like such a drag, you know, unless we're
sitting in a suite. Honestly, I want to sit in

(06:43):
someplace comfortable where I'm not surrounded by people and like
I can kind of come and go as I please
from watching it like I'm a crotchty old man. Yep. Absolutely,
and I have just no interest in being in live events.
It's in any way. I'm not even just wrestling, but
like nothing unless I'm in a sweet which does never happen.

(07:03):
I'm saying that as if it happens, it doesn't happen.
Last time I was in a sweet with Survivor series
when we went Sweet ones, so it's like flying first Glas,
but even before then, I was over it. I'm just dumb,
and I think a lot of fans of our Vintage
are feeling the same way increasingly. I think that's why
there's always such a malaise about the current state of
the product, because people realize, like, I don't have another

(07:24):
one in me. I don't have another round of Oh
it's interesting again. This was the last one for people
of our generation eighties, nineties. The last time is now.
That's right, and say there's not more generations coming up
behind us, the next round of Rapps fans fifteen years.
But this our cohorts tapped out, Yeah, I mean listen.
I mean we've joked about it, but honestly, to me,

(07:45):
the only if we ever do go to another WrestleMania
Live again, I don't want to go to the show.
I want to just do the things around it and
then watch the show from a hotel room. So we're
not going to Saudi. No, although I wouldn't be fat.
That would actually be the funniest thing is if we
did go to Saudi, go to all the events and
not attend the live show. That would be funny. I'd

(08:07):
actually be willing to do that for just the comedy
value of it. Oh my god, yeah, watching wrestling you're
from the hotel. We would need a financi Air for that.
But it's an incredible It keeps happening. The solar system
keeps coming through strong. We've got a lot of gifts
to get through this year, and we just want to say,
at least I want to say right off the top,

(08:29):
the verdict is in. We can't handle this anymore. We're
going to keep doing the unwrappening, but we're going to
sell some of the stuff. Yeah, we have to do. Yes, honestly,
I mean some stuff. Listen, I won't lie that there
are toys that I have that I keep that you've
probably heard me playing with at times. We don't have
to call out winners and losers here, but just suffice
to say that you know, it'll go back and get
a cast, it'll go towards make things a podcasts that

(08:52):
you're love. Well, we're going to pay forward, that's correct. Yeah,
you're going to, in invisible and visible ways, reap the
rewards of us turning some of these things liquid. Because
what do you give us these gifts for. I've come
to determine to hear our reaction to them. That's a
lot of the case. I don't want you want us
to have nice things people. They liked it when I

(09:12):
burned Jeff Hardy, that was one of the more efficient
uses of a gift. It was great. It was a
nice kindling for the fire that morning. Let's kindle the
first gift. Who are we looking at? I don't know
who this is. It came airmail, par Avion, Royal mail,
so it's from across upon this, I want to tell you.
So the reason why I chose this one was because

(09:34):
this this came first. So there were packages, you know,
every now and again we do get a notification that
somebody gave us something that isn't Christmas gift related, and
so I went to the PO box. I got the gifts,
but there was also another There was another package, and
I was like, well, I don't know if this is
you know, And I open it up and as you'll see,

(09:57):
wrapping paper, ho ho ho rap gifts within the Okay,
so this is going to be set aside. This was
the first gift that we received. This are you trying
to say, the first gift of first Yes, the first
gift of t LF triple Xmas. Let me see. I
hope you have means of playing this, so I don't know, Yeah,

(10:19):
I see there's a letter. Usually there's a letter. Oh,
here it is. I found the pink Sid Galube like
two years after rappening, and now I can have and
I have the original one. I have the the the
black so I can have what you had Sid and Bow.
I have it. Oh my god, who's that? Who's is that?

(10:44):
What do you think that? Next? Evince and Linda? Yes,
Oh my god, it's yes, it's it's Vince Linda like
seventy eight Vins or eighty two Vince with Fujinami, Yes,
in like chinos and in the back, yeah, that's John
Bobo are left and they're holding out glasses as if toasting.
And it's a Merry Christmas card as if it came

(11:04):
from awful. They came from the offices of the Cape
Cod Coliseum back when Vince was just getting started. So
to Jack and JP, I hope you enjoy this selection
of gifts this year. Have a merry Christmas and all
the best for twenty twenty six. George, mister mccountistu, the
good Man, John ps. Green wrapped gifts are for Jack,

(11:24):
gold rapped gifts. Oh there we go, the boss so well,
I took this one out. Should reopen this one. That's
gold for Boss, right, gold for Boss. So I am
hoping you have a means of playing this. I think
it's a record. It looks to me like a vinyl
from here. I want a phenomenal Christmas card. Oh my gosh,
I know saw this picture before.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh shit, what?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh shit? What is that? It's it's a It's a
Twin Peaks record. Wow, that's nuts. The whole soundtrack. I
was not expecting that at all. What's the name of
the front there in the bottom? What? Uh? Here? Oh?
Music composed by Angelo Barlemente. That's insane. I saw music

(12:09):
from and I thought it was gonna be like music
from the Seasons, you know, if I saw the trees
and stuff, last thing I thought was gonna be Twin Peaks.
That's wild. Boom boom boom boom boom. God, what what
a fucking ride that was under this? That was this year?
It feels like a decade ago. Yeah, Green feels like

(12:36):
a DVD case. Let's take a look.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
He's a la fan wrestling podcast with Jack and m
Jpi Soros. A lapsed fan wrestling podcast.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Aha, a couple of ECW titles. Oh there we go,
Silver Vision Present. So this is from the UK. For
the EU at least ECW the most extreme matches WVD.
This is a WW release eighteen plus. Of course it's
a two DVD set, okay, sure to satisfy the most
extreme enthusiasts, which I would be included. There Saboo, Taz,

(13:25):
Tommy with two z's on task because it's a WW release.
Oh God, Tommy Dreamer, Cactus Dudley's Raven Sandman. They do
that just because they owned him and they changed it
was I think reason. I think they did that to
avoid being sued by the taz Maniac cartoon people, the
Looney Tunes people. I guess ECW smallness. They would use

(13:45):
copyrighted music with that permission all the time, and that's wild.
And this is also the W heat Wave ninety eight,
but this was the this isn't the WW release. This
is this looks to be the original. Yeah, although I've
never heard of Delta apparently that was their distributor in
the UK, Delta Music. Look at this just incredible? Was
Jerry Lynn heat Waved ninety eight? I remember this show?
This is did we do that show? This is one

(14:06):
that people have begged for us to do because it's
got Sabu and Van Dam versus high Boos and gensation Zaki.
I'm with Lowa Busa. But that's okay. Which is which
is a pretty great match for the time. Well, thanks
a lot, George. Those are choice dis I want to
see here. I got similar in size. Here. Let's see
what we got. Oh all right, he's going all in. Yeah,

(14:36):
we got the blu ray set of the is this
this is the this is the the showtime limited event series,
the sequel. That's not even what we watch. That's it's
not even when we watch this is the unless it's
the whole I know, sometimes they released it with the
whole thing. Let me see here, No, this is this

(15:00):
is just the uh the more recent the season three,
basically season we talked about about it briefly. I do
remember that that's a pretty well Coolly Designs set there. Yeah,
looks like it has the bread room in it, it
has the red room in it, and it's got this
because you know, they they sell the ideas that you
got evil agent Cooper, right, And I love the way

(15:21):
that the when you open the box in the front,
it kind of comes apart and then comes back together
forming his face almost looks like teeth like teeth like
saw tooth coming together twin peaks. What a fucking ride
that well, I didn't see that one coming. Oh not
at all. Let me while you setting this up, make
accommodations here, and we're going to make some space for
all this stuff. I know we're gonna have stuff. It's

(15:41):
that too, brother, my complete hull covin notes and supporting material,
complete Hull Cogan with a complete takeover of space. You're
not kidding, all right, I'm next, All right, brother, you
have more DVDs? Oh my god, look at that ship.

(16:04):
I haven't gotten DVDs for Christmas in like twenty Oh
yeah right wow. House Party ninety six, that's a deep
cut show with too cold versus rip wreck house minute. Yeah,
that's what it used to call. Do you have house
party every year? I think? No kidding, yep. At Public
Mniverse Gangstas Zebu vers Stevie Richards. I don't remember this one.

(16:25):
Eliminator's verse nine one one and Raymisterio Junior. There's a
match for the fucking there's a main event anywhere in
the country. It has Verus hack Myers. I remember that one.
Also here God, I can't stop looking this ns Man Christmas.
I know that is gonna be one of the greatest.
He looks ridiculous in that three She looks us she
looks she looks awful, like she was horrified for I know,

(16:47):
I mean, she looks better than she just now. Oh
my god, I know she got the marl LAGUEO faster
now like just cyber Slam ninety eight. See, I've never
seen these. These are like see how cheaply printed the
graphics are. Yeah, this is like their original ECWS original
UK video distributor Jane Douglas and Bam Bam Versabo and
RBD Cybruslant ninety Yet I remember this one. This would
have been one of those. I I probably had gotten

(17:10):
the pay per views by then available to me. Tasorus
bractiswhere in the countries we all we all missed that
practice run Dreamer, dream of verse, credible, first blood practice
missed his Bractis run. We were the only people who
missed it. Everybody else is glad it was over see
see see I miss it because I didn't see it.

(17:32):
He missed it. It didn't happen right now, do you
think this is what Trips had in mind when they
debuted on ESPN with Wressell Poll My god, the original
New Jack and Balls Pall's Mahoney on the cover es
actually seasonal Xanta Claus absolutely, and it's so funny to
hear Mark Schapiro at t KO talk about how we

(17:52):
need to franchise newde live event names. Is that Vince's Lake.
I'm fine with that, you know what. I believe that
that is okay. I believe it is time that we
create instead of WrestleMania, entertainment Frenzy and Frenzy that's the
name of the warship. That's it every year, and that's
what we call from now on entertainment. Frenzy one happened
in nineteen eighty five, right, because prevents It's like, you

(18:15):
can come up with a new name, but it has
to be a continuation of his concept. And to hear
Marsha Barrow like we created Russell Baloza's ip, It's like, no,
you didn't we All that's a fucking married with children
no ship. Yes, that's like in case of emergency, break
glass and steal an ecw idea. Right, that's how haphazard
and together that thing was so stupid. I actually was thinking,

(18:36):
you know, what what he should what should what they
should do is they should actually just call it seasonal Slam,
and so like they can do it any season, right,
So she has a seasonal Slam Spring like the Big
Four now seasonal Slam, right, Seasonal Slam Spring, seasonal Slam, Summer,
Seasonal Slam Fall, seasonal Slam Winter. I mean, I think

(18:58):
you're onto something. And we have the seasonal Slam Battle
Royal And how much are these American cities willing to
pay to get seasonal Slam? Billions of dollars? You know,
they get six million from Vegas just to show up
next year. It's insane, it's so stupid. So at least
that's at least that's incentive to book strong cards. Fucking
hate this company. Hate it. It's become everything we said

(19:21):
it was going to become. If you heard laps Vince
on stage at Punchline Philly, well we did that show
before Wrestling y forty, that was it. He called it
as the peak and that was the peak. It really
was coming off that thing. If they didn't have John
Cena this year, this would have been like we would
have been one Doldrums. I mean not to say he
was hyper successful at what he went and tried to do,
but at least they had a hook all year, right,
you know? So Wressell Palus in ninety eight, featuring, among

(19:43):
other things, Rob van Demver Sabu for the TV title,
which I believe we watched as part of the Saboo tribute. Yes,
Shaneogas versusl Snow when they were trying to This is
al coming over from WW after the ill fated Lucassidy run,
trying to make something of himself and then he became
the head guy. It was all about the new rockers
and found New life. Bamba so stupid. I know, good

(20:04):
stuff man, Thanks George. These are cool. I've never seen
these covers before. We have one more here. See if
there's a theme going, and I believe I know what
it is. Yep, here it is, and we have twin
peaks the entire mystery. He just fucking went all in son,
I know the sad love theme at the end. Look

(20:25):
at this bo This is an amazing box set. Goodbye
to my old gold one? Is that right? Glorious? Let's
go glorious. I can't quite see it well, it's just
the I mean, look, I mean just the way it's formatted. Here,
You've got this incredible box flip. I always loved the
shattered look of the Laura Palmer face with her her

(20:46):
prom picture with her dead face. Right, that is awesome.
And then you just open it up and it's like
almost like a rolodex. Oh wow, look at that page
after page yep, to keep going up. There's and each
DVD's touch hole. I mean a national pilot, which we
talked about, Yes, we did. These are this is wild?

(21:07):
You got the second season? So is this everything is
like a third season? Two in there? Like is it
the complete? Miss the complete? We know something about that
around we're all about completion. It's the complete continues to wow.
So okay, So it gave me the oh, I'm a
film and the film that's wild? That film is film

(21:31):
is such a thing. This is incredible. Yeah, wow, really cool.
What do we talk about? We talk about physical media.
I was just going to say that. Then we got it,
and I noticed this year they're coming out WWE with
a WrestleMania Anthology DVD set just with every wrestling date
and someone's getting the message. All right, Hey, it was.
It was fine. Everybody was making money. You know, streaming

(21:53):
is clearly fucking bullshit. Well, listen, I like being able
to take my entertainment as I go. Listen. I love
the fact that I'm here spending the night and I
can watch any of my movies that I have at
home on my laptop. Can I make Can I make
a radical suggestion? Perhaps if you buy the physical media
and titles you to a digital I'll tell you what.
I always like that. I actually was a big fan.
That's when you bought a disc it came with a

(22:16):
streaming option. Now, if that were the case, I would
always buy it. If that was the only way to
buy a streaming option, I would buy that. That's what
I'm trying to say. Yea, be fine with it, you know, people,
I understand people are addicted to the convenience. You can
couple that with the economics, which benefits everybody, of selling
physical media and you can give it away as a gift.
You can't give someone a fucking movie for Christmas anymore.
You can, And I'm sorry, that's that's you know, wrestling

(22:37):
fans and DVDs, wrestling fans and vhs, let alone all
the other you know, genres of hobbies and entertainment that
lend itself well to home video. All had to die
for what, you know, why so that we could have
less Christmases that are lesser than solar systems. See into it.
That's not the case. I so we need to fare George,
Thank you so much man forgetting the Unwrapping Season four underway.

(23:02):
Tis the season and we'll see you next time. Here
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