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For the million dollar man set it claus it say
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the TLS Christmas Show and since the Boss and I
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Several more have come into the Lapsed po box since
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I guess absolutely So who do we have next.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
We've got Tim Tim uh Coscuba.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh, the homie from Connecticut, the one and only Tim
from Connecticut. Talk about a day one all the way
back to the shirt dog days goes.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know what. Look, I'm gonna tell you something. I think, finally,
after all these years, I've learned something.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He's got scissors unlike me, scissors.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Unlike any other year. We've never had scissors. We always
fucking even even the times we did it in this office,
in my office that time, I didn't have fucking scissors.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
A lot easier to think about those little small logistics
when you only have to open four boxes instead of
three thousand. The boss man tears away. Of course, everything's
on his side of the equation. So I'm I'm watching on.
I can see the box.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I have a card. We have a card here, we do.
So how do we start things? Co Chairman, this meeting
has been called to order. Correct Merry Christmas and Happy
New Year. It's just that un rapping bits. Oh yes,
Merry Christmas. Nice card there in lockdown like that like that, Oh,
(04:41):
we have we have a missive here. It's been a
rough two years for me. Boys in late twenty twenty three,
I was two months away from being married to the
love of my life after and nearly I don't like
where this is going. Already, after nearly an eighteen month engagement,
completely out of left field, she broke it all off.
Look at that marriage relationship everything I was blown in pieces.
(05:04):
I lost thousands of dollars on a ring and had
to abruptly move out and find a studio apartment in
a city I could barely afford. Yeah, if it wasn't
for uh, it wasn't for my It wasn't for my
Is that a cat? It wasn't for my cat needing?
(05:26):
I thought I was gonna say caught. It was like
caught or cut. I probably need it again for my
cat needing me, I may have tapped out on this
squared circle we call life. Not now. No no, no, no, no,
not no way.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I will not stand for it, and those who are
happier here every day won't stand for it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Damn right us included. Needless to say, I was alone
a lot. But one of the ways I could keep
my keep my space but also feel like I could
feel like I was amongst friends was listening and re
listening to the pod.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, yes, I mean, look, you know we also come
in handy when you find yourself incredibly lonesome all of
a sudden for reasons that can't be predicted. But we're
constant not only with the output, but the shelf life too.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's something that I mean a lot of life is
about bridging these multi hour points of drudgery. It you're
stuck somewhere, you've got to do something, you're obliged to
wait or look, something like this happens in your life
and all of a sudden, you've got nothing but dead
air to account for. We can be of assistance there
and can be assistance.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And unfortunately we don't live in a world anymore where
you can do that with nothing. You know, Like it's
harder than ever to sit there and actually have nothing
and to do nothing and to just be patient. You
need something, and we are always glad to fill that hole.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, thats been that has been Yeah, thoroughly shaken out
of the gene pool, the ability to know what to
do with yourself without stimulus. And so, like we always say,
we don't make the rules. We just play by him
and we just run the ball across the finish line,
because we set up the smartest place podcast dam broadcasting broadly,
and so Tim, you know it is it is the holidays,
(07:09):
It is the time for reflections like this. So long
as that second half sees the horizon, absolutely he sees
the light.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He continues. You know, I've been with you from day
zero of this venture, and I just want to say
thank you for being with me when I felt like
a zero. Fast forward a bit, and I've and I've
recovered a lot financially, emotionally and personally. So I felt
the need to repay you and buy your affection. Listen,
our affection is always for sale.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, I mean, we never hid the fact that we
were born in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Damn right, Love you, Jens, and happy holidays. Tim formerly
of CT now residing in Charleston, s c oh wow,
look at that. There we go with So Tim from PS,
I actually bought you two copies of a DVD in
here for y'all. So he started with y'all, dude, come on, no, no, no,
you didn't take long, did it. I don't care if
(08:02):
you're dude. Come on, So I included both. I figured
you could find something to do with it, maybe sign
it and knock it off to this solar system. Why
this movie? Well, all right, I'm not gonna go on
from there because he talks a little bit about what
this isn't here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So let's see what we got. Okay, yeah, we got,
we got ah, here we go. We started off selected
for your coach here. That's like a DVD on Christmas,
bo Christ. There we go.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What is it? Yeah, I'm actually glad because this is
this is certainly on the list Ridley Scott's Black Rain.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tell me about this film. I don't think I know
the first thing about it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I know about it. I know I've never seen it before,
but uh I know, uh, Professor Tanaka is in this movie.
It's with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia. I remember it used
to have a great It had a great The movie
poster in the eighties was great. Not as stupid as
this DVD cover. M So, it's an eighties slick. It
(08:57):
is an eighties slick. Yeah, yeah, it's on the left. Stephen,
though you've never seen it. That's that's oh yeah, Well
we're rarefied a no, no, no, Unfortunately it is not rarefied here.
There are so many movies that I've never seen because
I've never wanted to see them and I've never heard
of them before that are on the list. So let's
see here if there's anything else. Oh yes, oh my,
oh my goodness, oh my goodness, gracious me, but this
(09:19):
is going to be trouble.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is going to be trouble, he says, fucking unwrapping.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll just I'll give you this view from here, so
you see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh, that's a thick stack. Maybe it's it's trouble already.
Short of pancakes. That's the that's the most intriguing stack
you can put in front of your boy. We got
we got mags, we got mags. Fucking news stamp this
Christmas season. Yes, show me that yellowed have this one.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Here we go. Oh, the nineteen eighty four year in wrestling.
This is called on the cover. This is going to
be necessary. This is going.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
To tell us about it. What comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, this is I mean, okay, so this this was
such a you know, I knew I knew when Hogan
came back in w CW, I knew he was going
to win this award. I knew he was going to
win this award, and so I I looked long and
hard for this magazine and I did find it, and
I used to have it. So I was, uh, this
(10:21):
is this is just warm and fuzzies. And I think
we've talked about it before. But he wins Wrestler of
the Year. And the best part is, like nobody in
the history of the After mag Awards ever got a
trophy like that. He's got a plaque. Yeah, you get
a plaque, and he gets a plaque and a fucking trophy,
(10:43):
all right, because that's how he rolls, because he's haul Cogan.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, you know what I see when I see that
magazine cover always is the fact that you know, Vince
Bard the After Mags from Ringside, photograpsography and credentially.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is glory, this is these are all PWI issues wonderful.
So we got October ninety three, here this one. See
how different?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
See how different the Hogan picture looks When he's not
with WW and they don't have access to the portrait, you.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Get all these like these random crappy you know, half
assed journalists photo dragonic distance, right zooming in, cropping, those things.
I've never seen this one before. This is what month
is this? Who's better? Seawan or Brett? What's the question from? When?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
WW?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
This is oh this from April ninety six, that's a
good time to ask the question. WW World titled Turmoil.
The question is right there on top there who is better?
Teeny tiny at the top Breton Shawn. Massive cover of
the Big Gold with for all.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You ladies out there, a full color centerfold of the
one two three kid. That's what we fucking want. This
issue is July nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
On the cover, oh Man, Steamboat and Savage. Look at
that even wrestling, we can end this feud. Look at
Ricky Crank. We're not chinlock. And on the back a
double feature of VHS cassettes that's the Lords of the
Ring PROG Wrestling Illustrated Lords to the Ring VHS that
I had and watched many times.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
A lot of AWA stuff on there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Forty four ninety five retailing in nineteen eighty seven for
those tapes, that's kind of cheap. Four ninety five.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Think about it. It's usually double that went through it
for the other you know, let's see what do we
have June nineteen ninety five, the nineteen ninety five PWI poll, Yes,
what are they pulling?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Again?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hogan?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Seven? And again the WWF photos taken from the inside
the crowd ten rows back of a one heart Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
In June ninety five, PWY is asking has w c
W surpassed the WWE is number one? I wonder who's
going to ninety five?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And that actually a little premature from Nitro start asking, right, Okay,
this is from July ninety six. Is sewn Michael's leaving
the WWE in July ninety six, still world champion. They
loved fucking w Yeah, they really did. That was probably
with that show where he left and people thought he
was gonna show up on Nitro and connect. Look at
(13:28):
this one, Hulk Hogan taking on our editors. I'm sure
it did.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I want to know what that's all? That's better?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I can't. I can't, fucking I gotta. I got that
one now. I can't resist that one. It's a press conference,
I guess, a quote unquote press conference.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I want to dig into these so bad. Boss. I
don't know about you, but maybe a new Year's resolution
is we don't find some way to get these into
the hot hands of the Solar system with a little
maybe exclusive commentary.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So this is this is I think an interesting one
to do because this is July nineteen ninety six, So
this is I mean this went to print probably June
ninety six, and that's the year of that's the month
that he would turn on WW. So it's like this
is this came out right around that time, and it's
(14:15):
him as a face to say here Liz Hunter asks
where the fuck Liz Hunter is? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
She used to ask the most probing question. Is he
a real person that I don't know she's a real person.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's probably not a real names.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, Brandy Meckinwitz or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't say any Liz Hunter on this on the
on the staff here.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So Brandy Liz Hunter was just Carney for Lady Hunter.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There we go. Lu Fez once told me that the
toughest part about being established wrestler was having so many
enemies built up over the years and having them all
gunning for you at once. Are you finding that to
be true? Well, lis wast see it. I'm making new
enemies as I go along, don't Kevin Sullivan, I barely
even knew him. Before that, please the Giant orn Anderson.
(15:06):
I came after Flair, he didn't come after me and
asked for one man Gang and the others in the
Dungeon of Doom and the horsemen. They just got in
the way and I'm used to it bringing them all down.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yep, pretty much spoiler alert as far as w CW
back then.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But your feud with the Giant is in a way,
this is Dave Rosenbaum now asking connected to an old
feud because he says he wants to finish what Andre
the Giant couldn't. And with Flair, well, you wrestled him
years ago in the w WE. It really seems as
if you're tyed together some loose ends here. What are
you see him getting ready to retire? No way, brother,
(15:47):
I'm having too much fun, dude. Yes, I asked the
question like you didn't even ask. We made that up
about Hull. He didn't in the fun of him. Then
in his first you said, don't geting ready to retire? Brother, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Seriously, this is actual proof in the wild that he
answers the question with a question.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well, I'll tell you what. This is actual proof in
the wild that even because he wasn't. There was no
press conference that even the fucking that even afternoon. Okay,
that this ship? That what he was like that?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Who going to be like, what do you mean by
that question?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well? What are you talking about? Due?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Why don't you ask what you really want to say?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
and JP Sorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's a lapsed fan wrestling.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Podcast before again another ninety six issues. This is January
ninety six and they're already talking about look at this,
it's full scale war.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh yeah, I remember that cover. Well yeah ww firs
WCW tremendous, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Just betterus that Diesel is across from Hogan.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I know we got Diesel. Hogan, Sean Sting, Brett Savage
sounds like a super Bowl card to me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, honestly, wow, Hogan Nash, Yeah maybe maybe n
I'll tell you what it might have. It might have
It might have sold a house, I'll tell you that.
But it certainly wouldn't have been all.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It would have allowed Kevin Nash to buy a house.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, this is this is weird. There is a November
ninety six issue I read this one out loud, so
you can sure, because.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know the war to end all wars, how
I'd beat Sean Michaels by the Giant, How I'd beat
the Giant by Seawn Michaels.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There's no way that, I mean what there had to
be something to that, because I don't think WWA would
take too kindly to them putting words in Shawn Michael's mouth?
Did they Did he actually do that? That's one thing
that k fabe in interview. It's another k fabe a
by line column, as if Sean wrote it.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right, I know, that's what. It's so fucking weird, like
did this actually like? Also? Whoever? Like honestly, you know
what's funny? In all, in all my years, in all
my years as a wrestling fan, never once did I
ever think about the matchup between Paul White and Shawn Michaels.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Never. I've never even talked about the furthest thing from
my mind. I mean, it's you know, they were champions
at the same time in ninety six. That's true. This
is what Sean has to say. He says, this is
how I would beat the Giant by Shawn Michaels. First thing,
I don't mind telling. I don't mind making a habit
of boasting about who I could beat. Yes, you did
(18:42):
write you do make a habit of been what are
you talking about? But I also but I'm also not
one to avoid a direct question. If you know how
I would If you want to know how I would
do against the giant, I'll tell you, and I'll hold
nothing back. When I wrestle the giant, I take on
anyone if they have the guts in town to become
a WW wrestler.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Or he's not.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He's not one to avoid a question. He's just one
to avoid a direct answer.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's once someone might just avoid questions altogether. When I
look across the ring, I don't see the size of
a man. I don't care whether he's six feet, seven
feet or eight feet wrestling it's not about size. It's
about preparation. I'll tell hi vinsfect Man that, because I'm
pretty sure he thinks it's about size. When most people
(19:24):
think of preparation, they think immediately, immediately, think of learning
how to apply holes and execute. Now, Vince wrote this, Actually,
I'm sorry, Vince wrote this, and most people will think
of preparational the immediately think of learning how to apply
holes and execute maneuvers.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Sometimes he'd say nineteen seventy eight TV exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh, look another one. This is from ninety four. Now
WWE versus WW Which is better?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I mean that one must have sold copies Sting versus Yoko,
Vader versus Razor, and Dustin Rhodes versus the Undertaker.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is it kind of a little backwards? You know, I'd
put I'd put Vader with Yokozun. Huh, I'd put Sting
with Undertakers with Undertaker, and I'd put uh Dustin with Razor. Yeah, totely.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Razors the icy champ.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I had this one. I had any any any wrestling
magazine with Hulkogan on the cover that I found that.
You know, I always come at home a June ninety four.
Oh sure, that was on the set of Paradise set
and Paradise for sure, Ogan and Sting with paint locking
up on a boat in the ocean. Yes. Uh oh,
fifteen years. This is a fifteen year. This is September
(20:35):
ninety four, fifteen years of p W. I there we go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh wow, look at all the different Hogans.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't remember that enough.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's just one, but might as well be all of
them in white trunks.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Ooh, I don't remember this one either. February ninety five,
w CW Civil War Will Exit WWE stars spark a
revolution talking about bringing over all of Hogan's cronies.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Bubba yeap honky tonk Duggan. Oh yeah, they sparked a revolution,
all right. It just sparked joints as far as I
could tell.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeh, here's another. It's another Hogan. These are all gonna
be great down the line, on the complete Hull Cogan.
These are gonna be fucking fantastic. Somebody's looking out for
your boys. Pro Wrestling Illustrated Presents Wrestling Classic Hulka Mania
reborn September nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh that's a sweet one.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's yep. This is all Hogan. This is PWY all
on Hogan. I guess, well except for now Carrie Van
Eric and open the pages and there are people in there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Their sting.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, Hogan topples Andre and WrestleMania three. Yeah, all that
stuff sting, yep, sting Luger. This is April nineteen ninety
three cover the Steiner Brothers. Oh wow, thanks, I've ever
seen that one. Yeah me, neither.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Everything you've always wanted to know about wrestling's what top
tag team, most awesome tag team, that's awesome. Okay, that's
put on by the fans.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And the subheadline says, here is the comeback gets rough.
This is not the WWE you remember, Bob Beckland. And lastly,
we have the nineteen ninety three Year in Wrestling issue here.
(22:20):
I've actually never seen this one because I had ninety
two and then I had ninety four and I never
got ninety three, So this will actually be a fun read.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I always loved how PWI forced Memphis and what Lawler
was up to, and he took coverage of real territories.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yep, yep, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's like, oh yeah, in case you forgot, Jerry Lawler
wrestled Mabel in front of two hundred people and you know,
Nashville or something.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, if you had, I'm gonna we'll go through the
awards here and we'll do it this way. So Rookie
of the Year, Okay, I'm gonna let you guess who
won the Coles, the Tag Team, the Coles, the head Hunters,
Robbie Eagle or Vampire Warrior Vampire Warrior. Yes, you're right,
(23:05):
Vampire Warrior one Rookie of the Year, looking ever the impiro, subtle,
no gangrel, looking very subtle and not crazy at all.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Definitely not looking like someone who's trying to look like
his wife. Sure certainly someone who I would feel very
comfortable waking up next to.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm glad you said that, because that was my next comment.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Inspirational Wrestler of the Year, Lex Luger, the Kid, Brutus,
Beefcake or Cactus Jack. Did you list those one more time? Yes,
Lex Luger, The Kid, Brutus, Beefcake or Cactus Jack. Inspirational
Wrestler of the Year Kid, Cactus Jack, Cactus Jack well Inland.
(23:48):
Apparently he lost. The Kid lost by over one thousand votes. Unfortunately,
it's crazy about I don't know how accurate. I don't
know how I know, I know I listened. I think
the kid had a good year. But on Bruce Beak,
I think though, coming after you know, having his face
smashed in nineteen ninety and coming to national inspirational Luger, Yeah,
I don't know. If he had won the title, he'd
be inspirational, but he didn't, so most improve Wrestler of
(24:12):
the Year The Kid Yokozuna, Brian Lee or Tanka?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What was the first one?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The Kid? The Kid Yoko Zuna is the most improved
wrestler by nine. He got twenty one fifty six votes
compared to twelve thousand, five hundred eighteen votes to the
Kid the first runner up since doesn't well, I was
for some reason, I was thinking ninety four, not ninety three. Sure.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
For some reason, I was thinking it was two years
after yoko debut, not one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Oh. Sure. Come Back of the Year we have Lex Luger,
Paul Roma, Brutus Beefcake, and Rick Flair Brutus Beefcake. Lex Luger.
What twenty which is I guess? Yeah? He I mean,
I guess he came back at January. In January he
came back to the company, or he came back to
WWE rather not to the company, came back he'd never
(25:11):
been there before. Well, I mean, I mean, I guess
come back after like not wrestling the Motorcycle Acts. Yeah, yeah, right,
twenty one und nineteen votes to thirteen seven hundred and
sixty one votes. Manager of the Year we have mister
Fuji Harley Race, Jim Cornett and Tammy Fitch, not Sitch,
but Fitch with an F Corny Cornett absolutely by a
(25:36):
small margin, less than a thousand votes. He beats Harley Race,
the first runner up. Look at this, fucking I mean
Jesus Christ. Because he's in THEE. He can't they can't
give him a picture. They give like a picture from
when he was like fifteen years old. What is that is?
Freshman year yearbook picture. Jesus Christ. Feud of the Year
Cactus Jack versus Vader, Tony Anthony versus tracy' smothers. That's
(25:59):
the one that's it right there. Get that smoking Mountain
feud Rick Rude versus Dustin Rhodes, Brett Hart versus Jerry Lawler,
Cactus Invader Brett Hard versus Jerry Lawler No. Number two.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
There's a Jerry Lawler glaze. Okay, the constant Jerry Lawler glaze,
the the fucking twenty year alliance between Jerry Lawler and
the PWI. After Max After still saying, you've got Andy
Kaufman the gig.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Of course, I'm sure he did. Most Popular Wrestler of
the Year sting Dustin Rhodes, Brett Hart or Lex Luger
any three most popularly three. You know, I want to
say Lex, but he had half the year as a
heel Lex Lex Luger. Yep, you are correct. It's kind
(26:50):
of funny, given now how everything kind of ended up
with Brett Hart, you know. I mean there wasn't a
big discrepancy in the votes, only about sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Pretty wild how you can go from absolutely universally despise
to most beloved in one years just by slamming a
fat guy. Most Hated Wrestler of the Year Vader, Yoko Zuna,
Shawn Michaels or Jarence Lawler, Jerry Lawler, Jarence Lawler.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Let's keep sending the hardware to the the mance the
Memphis Mans right next to the barbecue smoker getting close here.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Match of the Year Cactus Jack versus Big Van Vader
from Halloween, Havoc Steiner Brothers versus Heavenly Bodies from Summer Slam.
That's that one's for Corney too, okay. Rick Rude versus
Dustin rhodes At from Beach Blast, and Shawn Michaels versus
(27:52):
Marty Jeannetti Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Raw Party won the belt. Yeah, I think so. I
would give it to Vader and Cactus.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
They gave it to Sean Michaels and Martin Jennetti, Money
Net Raw whatever Tag Team of the Year, Hollywood Blondes,
Heavenly Bodies, Money Incorporated, or the Steiner Brothers Steers Steiner Brothers.
You were correct. And lastly, here we go Wrestler of
the Year, Seawn Michaels, Brett Hart, Big von Vodter, and
(28:26):
Yokozuna Umvotter Vodder. You are correct, Big von Big von Voter.
Is this what it went to press before he lost
to Flair? Here we go, big glass of Big von
Vodder and a big glass of fucking nostalgia courtesy of
(28:46):
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always deeply for keeping us in your thoughts as you
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and that's all we can do. Let's just keep casting.
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You know what. Look, I'm gonna tell you something. I think, finally,
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He's got scissors unlike me, scissors.
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Unlike any other year. We've never had scissors. We always
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I have a card. We have a card here, we do.
So how do we start things? Co Chairman, this meeting
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(04:41):
we have we have a missive here. It's been a
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I was two months away from being married to the
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where this is going. Already, after nearly an eighteen month engagement,
completely out of left field, she broke it all off.
Look at that marriage relationship everything I was blown in pieces.
(05:04):
I lost thousands of dollars on a ring and had
to abruptly move out and find a studio apartment in
a city I could barely afford. Yeah, if it wasn't
for uh, it wasn't for my It wasn't for my
Is that a cat? It wasn't for my cat needing?
(05:26):
I thought I was gonna say caught. It was like
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not no way.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I will not stand for it, and those who are
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Speaker 2 (05:44):
Damn right us included. Needless to say, I was alone
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my keep my space but also feel like I could
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listening to the pod.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, yes, I mean, look, you know we also come
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You know.
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And unfortunately we don't live in a world anymore where
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and to do nothing and to just be patient. You
need something, and we are always glad to fill that hole.
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Yeah, thats been that has been Yeah, thoroughly shaken out
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we don't make the rules. We just play by him
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(07:09):
It is the time for reflections like this. So long
as that second half sees the horizon, absolutely he sees
the light.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He continues. You know, I've been with you from day
zero of this venture, and I just want to say
thank you for being with me when I felt like
a zero. Fast forward a bit, and I've and I've
recovered a lot financially, emotionally and personally. So I felt
the need to repay you and buy your affection. Listen,
our affection is always for sale.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, I mean, we never hid the fact that we
were born in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Damn right, Love you, Jens, and happy holidays. Tim formerly
of CT now residing in Charleston, s c oh wow,
look at that. There we go with So Tim from PS,
I actually bought you two copies of a DVD in
here for y'all. So he started with y'all, dude, come on, no, no, no,
you didn't take long, did it. I don't care if
(08:02):
you're dude. Come on, So I included both. I figured
you could find something to do with it, maybe sign
it and knock it off to this solar system. Why
this movie? Well, all right, I'm not gonna go on
from there because he talks a little bit about what
this isn't here.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So let's see what we got. Okay, yeah, we got,
we got ah, here we go. We started off selected
for your coach here. That's like a DVD on Christmas,
bo Christ. There we go.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What is it? Yeah, I'm actually glad because this is
this is certainly on the list Ridley Scott's Black Rain.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tell me about this film. I don't think I know
the first thing about it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I know about it. I know I've never seen it before,
but uh I know, uh, Professor Tanaka is in this movie.
It's with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia. I remember it used
to have a great It had a great The movie
poster in the eighties was great. Not as stupid as
this DVD cover. M So, it's an eighties slick. It
(08:57):
is an eighties slick. Yeah, yeah, it's on the left. Stephen,
though you've never seen it. That's that's oh yeah, Well
we're rarefied a no, no, no, Unfortunately it is not rarefied here.
There are so many movies that I've never seen because
I've never wanted to see them and I've never heard
of them before that are on the list. So let's
see here if there's anything else. Oh yes, oh my,
oh my goodness, oh my goodness, gracious me, but this
(09:19):
is going to be trouble.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is going to be trouble, he says, fucking unwrapping.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll just I'll give you this view from here, so
you see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh, that's a thick stack. Maybe it's it's trouble already.
Short of pancakes. That's the that's the most intriguing stack
you can put in front of your boy. We got
we got mags, we got mags. Fucking news stamp this
Christmas season. Yes, show me that yellowed have this one.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Here we go. Oh, the nineteen eighty four year in wrestling.
This is called on the cover. This is going to
be necessary. This is going.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
To tell us about it. What comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well, this is I mean, okay, so this this was
such a you know, I knew I knew when Hogan
came back in w CW, I knew he was going
to win this award. I knew he was going to
win this award, and so I I looked long and
hard for this magazine and I did find it, and
I used to have it. So I was, uh, this
(10:21):
is this is just warm and fuzzies. And I think
we've talked about it before. But he wins Wrestler of
the Year. And the best part is, like nobody in
the history of the After mag Awards ever got a
trophy like that. He's got a plaque. Yeah, you get
a plaque, and he gets a plaque and a fucking trophy,
(10:43):
all right, because that's how he rolls, because he's haul Cogan.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, you know what I see when I see that
magazine cover always is the fact that you know, Vince
Bard the After Mags from Ringside, photograpsography and credentially.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is glory, this is these are all PWI issues wonderful.
So we got October ninety three, here this one. See
how different?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
See how different the Hogan picture looks When he's not
with WW and they don't have access to the portrait, you.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Get all these like these random crappy you know, half
assed journalists photo dragonic distance, right zooming in, cropping, those things.
I've never seen this one before. This is what month
is this? Who's better? Seawan or Brett? What's the question from? When?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
WW?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
This is oh this from April ninety six, that's a
good time to ask the question. WW World titled Turmoil.
The question is right there on top there who is better?
Teeny tiny at the top Breton Shawn. Massive cover of
the Big Gold with for all.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You ladies out there, a full color centerfold of the
one two three kid. That's what we fucking want. This
issue is July nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
On the cover, oh Man, Steamboat and Savage. Look at
that even wrestling, we can end this feud. Look at
Ricky Crank. We're not chinlock. And on the back a
double feature of VHS cassettes that's the Lords of the
Ring PROG Wrestling Illustrated Lords to the Ring VHS that
I had and watched many times.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
A lot of AWA stuff on there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Forty four ninety five retailing in nineteen eighty seven for
those tapes, that's kind of cheap. Four ninety five.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Think about it. It's usually double that went through it
for the other you know, let's see what do we
have June nineteen ninety five, the nineteen ninety five PWI poll, Yes,
what are they pulling?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Again?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Hogan?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Seven? And again the WWF photos taken from the inside
the crowd ten rows back of a one heart Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
In June ninety five, PWY is asking has w c
W surpassed the WWE is number one? I wonder who's
going to ninety five?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And that actually a little premature from Nitro start asking, right, Okay,
this is from July ninety six. Is sewn Michael's leaving
the WWE in July ninety six, still world champion. They
loved fucking w Yeah, they really did. That was probably
with that show where he left and people thought he
was gonna show up on Nitro and connect. Look at
(13:28):
this one, Hulk Hogan taking on our editors. I'm sure
it did.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I want to know what that's all? That's better?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I can't. I can't, fucking I gotta. I got that
one now. I can't resist that one. It's a press conference,
I guess, a quote unquote press conference.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I want to dig into these so bad. Boss. I
don't know about you, but maybe a new Year's resolution
is we don't find some way to get these into
the hot hands of the Solar system with a little
maybe exclusive commentary.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So this is this is I think an interesting one
to do because this is July nineteen ninety six, So
this is I mean this went to print probably June
ninety six, and that's the year of that's the month
that he would turn on WW. So it's like this
is this came out right around that time, and it's
(14:15):
him as a face to say here Liz Hunter asks
where the fuck Liz Hunter is? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
She used to ask the most probing question. Is he
a real person that I don't know she's a real person.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's probably not a real names.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, Brandy Meckinwitz or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't say any Liz Hunter on this on the
on the staff here.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So Brandy Liz Hunter was just Carney for Lady Hunter.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There we go. Lu Fez once told me that the
toughest part about being established wrestler was having so many
enemies built up over the years and having them all
gunning for you at once. Are you finding that to
be true? Well, lis wast see it. I'm making new
enemies as I go along, don't Kevin Sullivan, I barely
even knew him. Before that, please the Giant orn Anderson.
(15:06):
I came after Flair, he didn't come after me and
asked for one man Gang and the others in the
Dungeon of Doom and the horsemen. They just got in
the way and I'm used to it bringing them all down.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yep, pretty much spoiler alert as far as w CW
back then.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
But your feud with the Giant is in a way,
this is Dave Rosenbaum now asking connected to an old
feud because he says he wants to finish what Andre
the Giant couldn't. And with Flair, well, you wrestled him
years ago in the w WE. It really seems as
if you're tyed together some loose ends here. What are
you see him getting ready to retire? No way, brother,
(15:47):
I'm having too much fun, dude. Yes, I asked the
question like you didn't even ask. We made that up
about Hull. He didn't in the fun of him. Then
in his first you said, don't geting ready to retire? Brother, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Seriously, this is actual proof in the wild that he
answers the question with a question.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well, I'll tell you what. This is actual proof in
the wild that even because he wasn't. There was no
press conference that even the fucking that even afternoon. Okay,
that this ship? That what he was like that?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Who going to be like, what do you mean by
that question?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well? What are you talking about? Due?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Why don't you ask what you really want to say?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
and JP Sorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's a lapsed fan wrestling.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Podcast before again another ninety six issues. This is January
ninety six and they're already talking about look at this,
it's full scale war.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh yeah, I remember that cover. Well yeah ww firs
WCW tremendous, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Just betterus that Diesel is across from Hogan.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I know we got Diesel. Hogan, Sean Sting, Brett Savage
sounds like a super Bowl card to me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, honestly, wow, Hogan Nash, Yeah maybe maybe n
I'll tell you what it might have. It might have
It might have sold a house, I'll tell you that.
But it certainly wouldn't have been all.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It would have allowed Kevin Nash to buy a house.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, this is this is weird. There is a November
ninety six issue I read this one out loud, so
you can sure, because.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't know the war to end all wars, how
I'd beat Sean Michaels by the Giant, How I'd beat
the Giant by Seawn Michaels.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There's no way that, I mean what there had to
be something to that, because I don't think WWA would
take too kindly to them putting words in Shawn Michael's mouth?
Did they Did he actually do that? That's one thing
that k fabe in interview. It's another k fabe a
by line column, as if Sean wrote it.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right, I know, that's what. It's so fucking weird, like
did this actually like? Also? Whoever? Like honestly, you know
what's funny? In all, in all my years, in all
my years as a wrestling fan, never once did I
ever think about the matchup between Paul White and Shawn Michaels.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Never. I've never even talked about the furthest thing from
my mind. I mean, it's you know, they were champions
at the same time in ninety six. That's true. This
is what Sean has to say. He says, this is
how I would beat the Giant by Shawn Michaels. First thing,
I don't mind telling. I don't mind making a habit
of boasting about who I could beat. Yes, you did
(18:42):
write you do make a habit of been what are
you talking about? But I also but I'm also not
one to avoid a direct question. If you know how
I would If you want to know how I would
do against the giant, I'll tell you, and I'll hold
nothing back. When I wrestle the giant, I take on
anyone if they have the guts in town to become
a WW wrestler.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Or he's not.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He's not one to avoid a question. He's just one
to avoid a direct answer.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's once someone might just avoid questions altogether. When I
look across the ring, I don't see the size of
a man. I don't care whether he's six feet, seven
feet or eight feet wrestling it's not about size. It's
about preparation. I'll tell hi vinsfect Man that, because I'm
pretty sure he thinks it's about size. When most people
(19:24):
think of preparation, they think immediately, immediately, think of learning
how to apply holes and execute. Now, Vince wrote this, Actually,
I'm sorry, Vince wrote this, and most people will think
of preparational the immediately think of learning how to apply
holes and execute maneuvers.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Sometimes he'd say nineteen seventy eight TV exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh, look another one. This is from ninety four. Now
WWE versus WW Which is better?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I mean that one must have sold copies Sting versus Yoko,
Vader versus Razor, and Dustin Rhodes versus the Undertaker.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is it kind of a little backwards? You know, I'd
put I'd put Vader with Yokozun. Huh, I'd put Sting
with Undertakers with Undertaker, and I'd put uh Dustin with Razor. Yeah, totely.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Razors the icy champ.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I had this one. I had any any any wrestling
magazine with Hulkogan on the cover that I found that.
You know, I always come at home a June ninety four.
Oh sure, that was on the set of Paradise set
and Paradise for sure, Ogan and Sting with paint locking
up on a boat in the ocean. Yes. Uh oh,
fifteen years. This is a fifteen year. This is September
(20:35):
ninety four, fifteen years of p W. I there we go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh wow, look at all the different Hogans.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't remember that enough.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's just one, but might as well be all of
them in white trunks.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Ooh, I don't remember this one either. February ninety five,
w CW Civil War Will Exit WWE stars spark a
revolution talking about bringing over all of Hogan's cronies.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Bubba yeap honky tonk Duggan. Oh yeah, they sparked a revolution,
all right. It just sparked joints as far as I
could tell.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeh, here's another. It's another Hogan. These are all gonna
be great down the line, on the complete Hull Cogan.
These are gonna be fucking fantastic. Somebody's looking out for
your boys. Pro Wrestling Illustrated Presents Wrestling Classic Hulka Mania
reborn September nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh that's a sweet one.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's yep. This is all Hogan. This is PWY all
on Hogan. I guess, well except for now Carrie Van
Eric and open the pages and there are people in there.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Their sting.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, Hogan topples Andre and WrestleMania three. Yeah, all that
stuff sting, yep, sting Luger. This is April nineteen ninety
three cover the Steiner Brothers. Oh wow, thanks, I've ever
seen that one. Yeah me, neither.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Everything you've always wanted to know about wrestling's what top
tag team, most awesome tag team, that's awesome. Okay, that's
put on by the fans.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And the subheadline says, here is the comeback gets rough.
This is not the WWE you remember, Bob Beckland. And lastly,
we have the nineteen ninety three Year in Wrestling issue here.
(22:20):
I've actually never seen this one because I had ninety
two and then I had ninety four and I never
got ninety three, So this will actually be a fun read.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I always loved how PWI forced Memphis and what Lawler
was up to, and he took coverage of real territories.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yep, yep, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's like, oh yeah, in case you forgot, Jerry Lawler
wrestled Mabel in front of two hundred people and you know,
Nashville or something.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, if you had, I'm gonna we'll go through the
awards here and we'll do it this way. So Rookie
of the Year, Okay, I'm gonna let you guess who
won the Coles, the Tag Team, the Coles, the head Hunters,
Robbie Eagle or Vampire Warrior Vampire Warrior. Yes, you're right,
(23:05):
Vampire Warrior one Rookie of the Year, looking ever the impiro, subtle,
no gangrel, looking very subtle and not crazy at all.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Definitely not looking like someone who's trying to look like
his wife. Sure certainly someone who I would feel very
comfortable waking up next to.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm glad you said that, because that was my next comment.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Inspirational Wrestler of the Year, Lex Luger, the Kid, Brutus,
Beefcake or Cactus Jack. Did you list those one more time? Yes,
Lex Luger, The Kid, Brutus, Beefcake or Cactus Jack. Inspirational
Wrestler of the Year Kid, Cactus Jack, Cactus Jack well Inland.
(23:48):
Apparently he lost. The Kid lost by over one thousand votes. Unfortunately,
it's crazy about I don't know how accurate. I don't
know how I know, I know I listened. I think
the kid had a good year. But on Bruce Beak,
I think though, coming after you know, having his face
smashed in nineteen ninety and coming to national inspirational Luger, Yeah,
I don't know. If he had won the title, he'd
be inspirational, but he didn't, so most improve Wrestler of
(24:12):
the Year The Kid Yokozuna, Brian Lee or Tanka?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What was the first one?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The Kid? The Kid Yoko Zuna is the most improved
wrestler by nine. He got twenty one fifty six votes
compared to twelve thousand, five hundred eighteen votes to the
Kid the first runner up since doesn't well, I was
for some reason, I was thinking ninety four, not ninety three. Sure.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
For some reason, I was thinking it was two years
after yoko debut, not one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Oh. Sure. Come Back of the Year we have Lex Luger,
Paul Roma, Brutus Beefcake, and Rick Flair Brutus Beefcake. Lex Luger.
What twenty which is I guess? Yeah? He I mean,
I guess he came back at January. In January he
came back to the company, or he came back to
WWE rather not to the company, came back he'd never
(25:11):
been there before. Well, I mean, I mean, I guess
come back after like not wrestling the Motorcycle Acts. Yeah, yeah, right,
twenty one und nineteen votes to thirteen seven hundred and
sixty one votes. Manager of the Year we have mister
Fuji Harley Race, Jim Cornett and Tammy Fitch, not Sitch,
but Fitch with an F Corny Cornett absolutely by a
(25:36):
small margin, less than a thousand votes. He beats Harley Race,
the first runner up. Look at this, fucking I mean
Jesus Christ. Because he's in THEE. He can't they can't
give him a picture. They give like a picture from
when he was like fifteen years old. What is that is?
Freshman year yearbook picture. Jesus Christ. Feud of the Year
Cactus Jack versus Vader, Tony Anthony versus tracy' smothers. That's
(25:59):
the one that's it right there. Get that smoking Mountain
feud Rick Rude versus Dustin Rhodes, Brett Hart versus Jerry Lawler,
Cactus Invader Brett Hard versus Jerry Lawler No. Number two.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
There's a Jerry Lawler glaze. Okay, the constant Jerry Lawler glaze,
the the fucking twenty year alliance between Jerry Lawler and
the PWI. After Max After still saying, you've got Andy
Kaufman the gig.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Of course, I'm sure he did. Most Popular Wrestler of
the Year sting Dustin Rhodes, Brett Hart or Lex Luger
any three most popularly three. You know, I want to
say Lex, but he had half the year as a
heel Lex Lex Luger. Yep, you are correct. It's kind
(26:50):
of funny, given now how everything kind of ended up
with Brett Hart, you know. I mean there wasn't a
big discrepancy in the votes, only about sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Pretty wild how you can go from absolutely universally despise
to most beloved in one years just by slamming a
fat guy. Most Hated Wrestler of the Year Vader, Yoko Zuna,
Shawn Michaels or Jarence Lawler, Jerry Lawler, Jarence Lawler.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Let's keep sending the hardware to the the mance the
Memphis Mans right next to the barbecue smoker getting close here.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Match of the Year Cactus Jack versus Big Van Vader
from Halloween, Havoc Steiner Brothers versus Heavenly Bodies from Summer Slam.
That's that one's for Corney too, okay. Rick Rude versus
Dustin rhodes At from Beach Blast, and Shawn Michaels versus
(27:52):
Marty Jeannetti Monday Night.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Raw Party won the belt. Yeah, I think so. I
would give it to Vader and Cactus.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
They gave it to Sean Michaels and Martin Jennetti, Money
Net Raw whatever Tag Team of the Year, Hollywood Blondes,
Heavenly Bodies, Money Incorporated, or the Steiner Brothers Steers Steiner Brothers.
You were correct. And lastly, here we go Wrestler of
the Year, Seawn Michaels, Brett Hart, Big von Vodter, and
(28:26):
Yokozuna Umvotter Vodder. You are correct, Big von Big von Voter.
Is this what it went to press before he lost
to Flair? Here we go, big glass of Big von
Vodder and a big glass of fucking nostalgia courtesy of
(28:46):
the homie Tim. Tim were rooting for you. Thank you
always deeply for keeping us in your thoughts as you
go through what you're going through. Glad to be of assistance,
and that's all we can do. Let's just keep casting.
So we'll do that, and we'll do that with the
know with the comfort knowing that folks like yourself aren't
hesitant to add some things to throw on the fire
that burns at the heart of this engine or unwrappening
(29:10):
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