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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, Jane, I want to ask you, did there come
a time in your life when you met someone named
Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes. What year was that answer nineteen
ninety four. Did there come a time in your life
when you had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes.
(00:25):
How old were you when that first happened? Answer fourteen
years old. Donald Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein that day,
that very day in nineteen ninety four, when Jeffrey Epstein
raped that fourteen year old girl. That testimony was given
(00:48):
under oath in the criminal trial of Jeffrey Epstein's co
conspirator in sex trafficking, Julane Maxwell. In two thousand and two,
Donald Trump said he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein for
fifteen years. That means their friendship began in and around
(01:10):
nineteen eighty seven, seven years before Jeffrey Epstein raped the
fourteen year old girl whose testimony you just heard, and
during that time when Jeffrey Epstein was raping children, Donald
Trump publicly called Jeffrey Epstein a terrific guy. That victim
(01:30):
whose testimony you just heard was asked if Jeffrey Epstein
raped her more than once? Question? Did that happen once
or more than once when you were fourteen years old?
(01:51):
Answer more than once. Question was there ever anyone else
in the room with you when you had sexual contact
with Jeffrey Epste when you were fourteen years old? Answer yes.
Question who was most frequently in the room when you
had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein when you were fourteen
years old? Answer Julaanne Maxwell. The only thing Donald Trump
(02:18):
has ever said about Julianne Maxwell since she was convicted
of sex trafficking and abusing that girl was I wish
her well. That's the only sentiment Donald Trump has ever
expressed about Julaine Maxwell after she was convicted of co
(02:41):
conspiring with child's rapist Jeffrey Epstein. I wish her well.
Julaine Maxwell is serving a twenty year sentence to night
in federal prison, and she knows that the President of
the United States, who wishes her well, also has the
power to release her from prison immediately. Donald Trump can
commute her sentence. Donald Trump can pardon her. Donald Trump
(03:04):
can just say she's been punished enough and tonight. Donald
Trump's criminal defense lawyer is using the Trump method of
going public when possibly trying to subvert the law. Donald
Trump's last criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche, who is now
the Deputy Attorney General, announced on Twitter that he is
(03:27):
in talks with Julaane Maxwell's lawyer, and he said, I
intend to meet with her soon and no good can
possibly come from that meeting. Todd Blanche's tweet actually says,
for the first time, the Department of Justice is reaching
out to Julane Maxwell to ask what do you know?
At attorney at Attorney General Pam Bondi's direction, I've contacted
(03:51):
her counsel. I intend to meet with her soon. No
one is above the law, and no lead is off limits.
Now Todd Blanche is lying so obviously because we know
that any lead on Donald Trump is off limits. We
know that about the Trump Justice Department, and we know
that about Todd Blanch, Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyer. Todd
(04:13):
Blanch has already contacted Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer. And
the only reason for Juliane Maxwell's criminal defense attorney to
talk to Todd Blanch is to get her out of prison.
Any criminal defense lawyer would be able to tell Juliane
Maxwell exactly what she has to say to get out
of prison. She has to say Donald Trump knew nothing
(04:34):
about it. Donald Trump knew nothing about what we were
doing to those girls, And it would be very helpful
to Donald Trump if Julie Maxwell was also willing to
say something incriminating about other prominent people who knew Jeffrey Epstein,
like maybe Bill Clinton and Todd Blinch. Is exactly exactly
(04:57):
who Donald Trump would send to Julane Maxwell's criminal defense
lawyer to offer a get out of jail deal if
that's what they are up to. Of course, Julaane Maxwell
had the chance to tell the Justice Department everything she knew,
and she refused to do that. She refused to say
(05:19):
a word to federal prosecutors. She refused to cooperate with
the Justice Department when the Justice Department would have been
happy to accept truthful testimony from her about Jeffrey Epstein
when he was still alive. Juliane Maxwell and her criminal
defense lawyer now know they are dealing with the most
(05:39):
corrupt Department of Justice in American history, and the only
incentive that Juliane Maxwell and her lawyer have to speak
to Todd Blanch is to give Todd Blanch the magic
words that he can pass on to Donald Trump to
get Julianne Maxwell out of prison. Julaine Maxwell was convicted
by a jury in Manhattan, and she is currently appealing
(06:02):
her case. Most appeals of criminal convictions don't have a
chance of succeeding, and most lawyers know that it is
legally and procedurally scandalous. The Todd Blanche, of all people,
has contacted Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer and intends to
meet with her. And Todd Blanche knows how scandalous that is,
(06:25):
which is why, in Trumpean fashion, he has made it public.
Donald Trump makes public announcements about his intended illegal conduct
all the time, including every single time he announces that
he is going to illegally change a tariff. That's the
Trump method. If he says it publicly, it can't possibly
be scandalous, and the Washington Press Corps mostly falls for that.
(06:48):
The bias of the Washington Press Corps is that all
scandals have to be dug out of the deep darkness
of the insides of some corrupt institution, like the Trump
White House or the Trump Justice Department. The most scandalous
behavior during the first Trump presidency occurred behind closed doors
and was dug up by congressional investigators in the January
(07:10):
sixth Committee and by enterprising, resourceful reporters, but not anymore.
They go public with it on Team Trump, with the
belief that no one will recognize just how outrageous it
is that they are doing what they are confessing to do.
In tweets, that witness whose testimony you just heard was
(07:36):
asked who Jeffrey Epstein and Julian Maxwell talked about when
they talked about their friends, and the first name, the
very first name, that that witness gave, was Donald Trump.
And so that means the name Donald Trump is in
the Epstein files. We know it from that testimony has
(07:58):
to be in the Epstein files just for that point,
because that would have come up in investigative discussions with
the FBI, and they would have put that in the files.
The first name. A fourteen year old girl listening to
Jeffrey Epstein and Julanne Maxwell talk about their friends, and
the very first name she mentions that she heard was
(08:19):
Donald Trump. Question, what names do you recall them mentioning
to you when they would tell you about their social circle? Answer?
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Mike Wallace, people at some that
I didn't know. Donald Trump and his supporters have always
suggested that the real dirt of the Epstein investigation would
(08:43):
get all over Bill Clinton, and now tonight we have
very strong reason to believe that that is not true,
because Donald Trump is in control of the release of
the Epstein files and everything the Epstein files says about
Bill Clinton. Donald Trump could release all that, and Donald
(09:03):
Trump is refusing to release those files. Donald Trump, bye tonight,
must also know, having been briefed by his former criminal
defense lawyer at Todd Blanche everything that the Epstein files
say about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump has decided those
files can never come out, never, no matter what they
(09:28):
might say about Bill Clinton. That witness whose testimony you
just heard was asked about a tragedy that her family
suffered the year before she met Jeffrey Epstein. Question, directing
your attention to the fall of nineteen ninety three, what
happened in your family at that time? Answer? My father
(09:49):
died of leukemia. Question what was your home life like
after your father passed away? Answer it was not great.
My father's employer had canceled his health insurance without him knowing,
and ended up in the hospital and died very suddenly,
and basically my family went into complete bankruptcy and lost
everything and we had to move out of our home.
(10:11):
Question you testified that before he passed away, your father
was a composer. Were you involved in the arts growing up?
Answer yes. Question were your brothers involved in the arts?
Answer yes. Question did you continue being involved in the
arts after your father passed away? Answer yes. Question directing
your attention to the summer of nineteen ninety four, what
(10:32):
did you do that summer? Answer me and my two brothers.
We went to camp for the first time, interlock In
Arts Camp. Question What is interlock In Arts Camp? Answer
It's a camp for children with all kinds of artistic
abilities music, musical, theater, theater, orchestra. Question When you arrived
at camp that summer, how long had it been since
(10:52):
your father passed away? Answer so the end of October
ninety three, So what is that nine months? Did there
come a time that summer at interlock and Arts Camp
when you met a man and a woman? Answer yes.
Question where were you when that happened? Answer? I was
in the main campus area where all the students hung
(11:14):
out during a break and where all the little cafes
were and sort of the gift shop. And I was
on a park bench or a picnic bench with my
friends from camp and we were eating ice cream. Question
what do you remember happening? Next? Answer, Well, we were
sitting around and socializing and we see this tall, thin
woman approaching us. Well, she was walking with a cute
(11:34):
little Yorki, and the Yorkie came by us and we
asked if we could pet the dog. Question what happened?
Then answered, We started chit chatting, petted the dog, and
the rest of my classmates had to go to class,
and probably about a minute later, another man came and
joined her and the rest of my friends. My classmates
left and I was there by myself and I sat
(11:54):
on the bench, still leading my ice cream, and the
man sat across from me. Question did you have a
conversation with that man and that woman? Answer? Yes, I did.
He seemed very interested to know what I thought about
the camp, what my favorite classes were, what my least
favorite classes, teachers, whatnot, what the experience was like, and
proceeded to say that they were big benefactors of this
(12:16):
camp and that they went there every summer and that
they gave different kids scholarships and so they wanted to
really know what a student attending the camp, what their
perspective was on it. Question what if anything else did
you discuss with them? Answer? Well, they asked me where
I was from, and I said I lived in Palm Beach, Florida.
And the man said, what a coincidence, we lived there too.
(12:38):
What are your parents' names? Question that man and that
woman you had this conversation with, Who were they? Answer
Jeffrey Epstein and Julie Maxwell. Question what was your impression
of them at that point? Answered? They seemed very friendly.
I thought they were a married couple in eighth grade.
(13:03):
She was in eighth grade when Jeffrey Epstein and Jelene
Maxwell together raped her. Donald Trump has never said I
wish her well about that victim of Jeffrey Epstein or
any victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Julianne Maxwell. Donald Trump
(13:24):
reserves all of his sympathies, all of his good feelings
in the Epstein Maxwell child rape story for Julaanne Maxwell
and no one else. What is Todd Blanche going to
say to Julne Maxwell? Is he going to wish her well?
Are there any other convicted criminal defendants in federal prison
(13:45):
tonight around the country who did not testify at their trials.
Who Todd Blanche wants to talk to about anything, of
course not. There's just one, the person who was there
with Jeffrey Epstein committing the crimes at the very time
that Donald Trump said Jeffrey Epstein is a terrific guy.
At exactly that same time. We know that Julie Maxwell
(14:10):
has things to say about Donald Trump because the testimony
at her criminal trial showed, as you just heard, that
she talked about Donald Trump to fourteen year old girls
before and after raping them. The inn over his head.
Speaker of the House seemed to mock his own overbearing
public religiosity today when he actually invoked scripture on the
(14:35):
side of continuing to keep the Epstein files secret, on
the side of Donald Trump blocking the release of the
investigative files of the child rapist whom Donald Trump called
a terrific guy. Our first guest tonight, Cornssman Rocona has
teamed up with Republican Cornressman Thomas Massey to create a
nightmare for Donald Trump and for the Speaker of the House.
(15:00):
I've been planning to bring a discharge petition that will
be signed by both Democrats and Republicans in the House
that will force a vote in the House on releasing
the Epstein files. Donald Trump has attacked Thomas Massey now
more than he's attacked any other Republican. Here's what Donald
Trump said when asked about his former criminal defense lawyer
talking to Juliane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer and trying to
(15:24):
talk to Julane Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Mister President, do you support the Justice Department seeking a
new interview with Gallaine Maxwell? And did you urge the
Attorney General to sequin.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't know anything about it. They're going to know
what meet her to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Your deputy Attorney general is reached out to Gallan Maxwell's
attorney asking for a new interview.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I don't know about it. Yes, I think it's
something that would be sounds appropriate to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you Do you have any concern that your deputy
Attorney general, who's your former attorney, would be conducting the
interview given.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, he's a very talented person, he's very smart. I
didn't know that they were going to do it. I
don't really follow that too much. He's such a bad liar.
Pathological liars are terrible at lying because they don't actually
know what they're lying. Sounds like to sane people. I
(16:18):
don't really follow that too much. Donald Trump actually said
that about the Epstein files. Donald Trump says it sounds
appropriate for his former criminal defense lawyer to be talking
to Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer to get something from
Julane Maxwell in exchange for what from Donald Trump or
(16:42):
Donald Trump's former criminal defense lawyer. What does he have
to offer to Julane Maxwell? Know nothing about that, nothing,
Nothing about that sounds appropriate. Donald Trump has already hit
Republican Tom Massey as hard as he can, and Thomas
(17:04):
Massey for now is still standing. This morning, Thomas Massey said, this.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
President's consultants have spent one point eight million dollars against me,
and I got a new tweet last night or a
truth social last night, and clearly that was because I've
done this Epstein file.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Like dogs don't bark at parked cars.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Right this bill is moving, this is coming to a vote.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
We've got enough Republican co sponsors of the bill twice
as many as we need right now, such that when
they sign it, and every Democrat signs this, we're going
to force a vote on it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's not going away, after Thomas Massey said that the
Speaker of the House decided to recess the House Representatives
for the rest of the summer to avoid Thomas Massey
and Rocanna's discharge petition overwhelming the House Representatives this week,
and so Mike Johnson's seems to have guaranteed that the
hust Representatives will once again take its place as the
(18:05):
battleground over the Epstein files in September and Thomas Massey's
words it's not going away,
Now, Jane, I want to ask you, did there come
a time in your life when you met someone named
Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes. What year was that answer nineteen
ninety four. Did there come a time in your life
when you had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes.
(00:25):
How old were you when that first happened? Answer fourteen
years old. Donald Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein that day,
that very day in nineteen ninety four, when Jeffrey Epstein
raped that fourteen year old girl. That testimony was given
(00:48):
under oath in the criminal trial of Jeffrey Epstein's co
conspirator in sex trafficking, Julane Maxwell. In two thousand and two,
Donald Trump said he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein for
fifteen years. That means their friendship began in and around
(01:10):
nineteen eighty seven, seven years before Jeffrey Epstein raped the
fourteen year old girl whose testimony you just heard, and
during that time when Jeffrey Epstein was raping children, Donald
Trump publicly called Jeffrey Epstein a terrific guy. That victim
(01:30):
whose testimony you just heard was asked if Jeffrey Epstein
raped her more than once? Question? Did that happen once
or more than once when you were fourteen years old?
(01:51):
Answer more than once. Question was there ever anyone else
in the room with you when you had sexual contact
with Jeffrey Epste when you were fourteen years old? Answer yes.
Question who was most frequently in the room when you
had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein when you were fourteen
years old? Answer Julaanne Maxwell. The only thing Donald Trump
(02:18):
has ever said about Julianne Maxwell since she was convicted
of sex trafficking and abusing that girl was I wish
her well. That's the only sentiment Donald Trump has ever
expressed about Julaine Maxwell after she was convicted of co
(02:41):
conspiring with child's rapist Jeffrey Epstein. I wish her well.
Julaine Maxwell is serving a twenty year sentence to night
in federal prison, and she knows that the President of
the United States, who wishes her well, also has the
power to release her from prison immediately. Donald Trump can
commute her sentence. Donald Trump can pardon her. Donald Trump
(03:04):
can just say she's been punished enough and tonight. Donald
Trump's criminal defense lawyer is using the Trump method of
going public when possibly trying to subvert the law. Donald
Trump's last criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche, who is now
the Deputy Attorney General, announced on Twitter that he is
(03:27):
in talks with Julaane Maxwell's lawyer, and he said, I
intend to meet with her soon and no good can
possibly come from that meeting. Todd Blanche's tweet actually says,
for the first time, the Department of Justice is reaching
out to Julane Maxwell to ask what do you know?
At attorney at Attorney General Pam Bondi's direction, I've contacted
(03:51):
her counsel. I intend to meet with her soon. No
one is above the law, and no lead is off limits.
Now Todd Blanche is lying so obviously because we know
that any lead on Donald Trump is off limits. We
know that about the Trump Justice Department, and we know
that about Todd Blanch, Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyer. Todd
(04:13):
Blanch has already contacted Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer. And
the only reason for Juliane Maxwell's criminal defense attorney to
talk to Todd Blanch is to get her out of prison.
Any criminal defense lawyer would be able to tell Juliane
Maxwell exactly what she has to say to get out
of prison. She has to say Donald Trump knew nothing
(04:34):
about it. Donald Trump knew nothing about what we were
doing to those girls, And it would be very helpful
to Donald Trump if Julie Maxwell was also willing to
say something incriminating about other prominent people who knew Jeffrey Epstein,
like maybe Bill Clinton and Todd Blinch. Is exactly exactly
(04:57):
who Donald Trump would send to Julane Maxwell's criminal defense
lawyer to offer a get out of jail deal if
that's what they are up to. Of course, Julaane Maxwell
had the chance to tell the Justice Department everything she knew,
and she refused to do that. She refused to say
(05:19):
a word to federal prosecutors. She refused to cooperate with
the Justice Department when the Justice Department would have been
happy to accept truthful testimony from her about Jeffrey Epstein
when he was still alive. Juliane Maxwell and her criminal
defense lawyer now know they are dealing with the most
(05:39):
corrupt Department of Justice in American history, and the only
incentive that Juliane Maxwell and her lawyer have to speak
to Todd Blanch is to give Todd Blanch the magic
words that he can pass on to Donald Trump to
get Julianne Maxwell out of prison. Julaine Maxwell was convicted
by a jury in Manhattan, and she is currently appealing
(06:02):
her case. Most appeals of criminal convictions don't have a
chance of succeeding, and most lawyers know that it is
legally and procedurally scandalous. The Todd Blanche, of all people,
has contacted Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer and intends to
meet with her. And Todd Blanche knows how scandalous that is,
(06:25):
which is why, in Trumpean fashion, he has made it public.
Donald Trump makes public announcements about his intended illegal conduct
all the time, including every single time he announces that
he is going to illegally change a tariff. That's the
Trump method. If he says it publicly, it can't possibly
be scandalous, and the Washington Press Corps mostly falls for that.
(06:48):
The bias of the Washington Press Corps is that all
scandals have to be dug out of the deep darkness
of the insides of some corrupt institution, like the Trump
White House or the Trump Justice Department. The most scandalous
behavior during the first Trump presidency occurred behind closed doors
and was dug up by congressional investigators in the January
(07:10):
sixth Committee and by enterprising, resourceful reporters, but not anymore.
They go public with it on Team Trump, with the
belief that no one will recognize just how outrageous it
is that they are doing what they are confessing to do.
In tweets, that witness whose testimony you just heard was
(07:36):
asked who Jeffrey Epstein and Julian Maxwell talked about when
they talked about their friends, and the first name, the
very first name, that that witness gave, was Donald Trump.
And so that means the name Donald Trump is in
the Epstein files. We know it from that testimony has
(07:58):
to be in the Epstein files just for that point,
because that would have come up in investigative discussions with
the FBI, and they would have put that in the files.
The first name. A fourteen year old girl listening to
Jeffrey Epstein and Julanne Maxwell talk about their friends, and
the very first name she mentions that she heard was
(08:19):
Donald Trump. Question, what names do you recall them mentioning
to you when they would tell you about their social circle? Answer?
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Mike Wallace, people at some that
I didn't know. Donald Trump and his supporters have always
suggested that the real dirt of the Epstein investigation would
(08:43):
get all over Bill Clinton, and now tonight we have
very strong reason to believe that that is not true,
because Donald Trump is in control of the release of
the Epstein files and everything the Epstein files says about
Bill Clinton. Donald Trump could release all that, and Donald
(09:03):
Trump is refusing to release those files. Donald Trump, bye tonight,
must also know, having been briefed by his former criminal
defense lawyer at Todd Blanche everything that the Epstein files
say about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump has decided those
files can never come out, never, no matter what they
(09:28):
might say about Bill Clinton. That witness whose testimony you
just heard was asked about a tragedy that her family
suffered the year before she met Jeffrey Epstein. Question, directing
your attention to the fall of nineteen ninety three, what
happened in your family at that time? Answer? My father
(09:49):
died of leukemia. Question what was your home life like
after your father passed away? Answer it was not great.
My father's employer had canceled his health insurance without him knowing,
and ended up in the hospital and died very suddenly,
and basically my family went into complete bankruptcy and lost
everything and we had to move out of our home.
(10:11):
Question you testified that before he passed away, your father
was a composer. Were you involved in the arts growing up?
Answer yes. Question were your brothers involved in the arts?
Answer yes. Question did you continue being involved in the
arts after your father passed away? Answer yes. Question directing
your attention to the summer of nineteen ninety four, what
(10:32):
did you do that summer? Answer me and my two brothers.
We went to camp for the first time, interlock In
Arts Camp. Question What is interlock In Arts Camp? Answer
It's a camp for children with all kinds of artistic
abilities music, musical, theater, theater, orchestra. Question When you arrived
at camp that summer, how long had it been since
(10:52):
your father passed away? Answer so the end of October
ninety three, So what is that nine months? Did there
come a time that summer at interlock and Arts Camp
when you met a man and a woman? Answer yes.
Question where were you when that happened? Answer? I was
in the main campus area where all the students hung
(11:14):
out during a break and where all the little cafes
were and sort of the gift shop. And I was
on a park bench or a picnic bench with my
friends from camp and we were eating ice cream. Question
what do you remember happening? Next? Answer, Well, we were
sitting around and socializing and we see this tall, thin
woman approaching us. Well, she was walking with a cute
(11:34):
little Yorki, and the Yorkie came by us and we
asked if we could pet the dog. Question what happened?
Then answered, We started chit chatting, petted the dog, and
the rest of my classmates had to go to class,
and probably about a minute later, another man came and
joined her and the rest of my friends. My classmates
left and I was there by myself and I sat
(11:54):
on the bench, still leading my ice cream, and the
man sat across from me. Question did you have a
conversation with that man and that woman? Answer? Yes, I did.
He seemed very interested to know what I thought about
the camp, what my favorite classes were, what my least
favorite classes, teachers, whatnot, what the experience was like, and
proceeded to say that they were big benefactors of this
(12:16):
camp and that they went there every summer and that
they gave different kids scholarships and so they wanted to
really know what a student attending the camp, what their
perspective was on it. Question what if anything else did
you discuss with them? Answer? Well, they asked me where
I was from, and I said I lived in Palm Beach, Florida.
And the man said, what a coincidence, we lived there too.
(12:38):
What are your parents' names? Question that man and that
woman you had this conversation with, Who were they? Answer
Jeffrey Epstein and Julie Maxwell. Question what was your impression
of them at that point? Answered? They seemed very friendly.
I thought they were a married couple in eighth grade.
(13:03):
She was in eighth grade when Jeffrey Epstein and Jelene
Maxwell together raped her. Donald Trump has never said I
wish her well about that victim of Jeffrey Epstein or
any victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Julianne Maxwell. Donald Trump
(13:24):
reserves all of his sympathies, all of his good feelings
in the Epstein Maxwell child rape story for Julaanne Maxwell
and no one else. What is Todd Blanche going to
say to Julne Maxwell? Is he going to wish her well?
Are there any other convicted criminal defendants in federal prison
(13:45):
tonight around the country who did not testify at their trials.
Who Todd Blanche wants to talk to about anything, of
course not. There's just one, the person who was there
with Jeffrey Epstein committing the crimes at the very time
that Donald Trump said Jeffrey Epstein is a terrific guy.
At exactly that same time. We know that Julie Maxwell
(14:10):
has things to say about Donald Trump because the testimony
at her criminal trial showed, as you just heard, that
she talked about Donald Trump to fourteen year old girls
before and after raping them. The inn over his head.
Speaker of the House seemed to mock his own overbearing
public religiosity today when he actually invoked scripture on the
(14:35):
side of continuing to keep the Epstein files secret, on
the side of Donald Trump blocking the release of the
investigative files of the child rapist whom Donald Trump called
a terrific guy. Our first guest tonight, Cornssman Rocona has
teamed up with Republican Cornressman Thomas Massey to create a
nightmare for Donald Trump and for the Speaker of the House.
(15:00):
I've been planning to bring a discharge petition that will
be signed by both Democrats and Republicans in the House
that will force a vote in the House on releasing
the Epstein files. Donald Trump has attacked Thomas Massey now
more than he's attacked any other Republican. Here's what Donald
Trump said when asked about his former criminal defense lawyer
talking to Juliane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer and trying to
(15:24):
talk to Julane Maxwell.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Mister President, do you support the Justice Department seeking a
new interview with Gallaine Maxwell? And did you urge the
Attorney General to sequin.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't know anything about it. They're going to know
what meet her to.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Your deputy Attorney general is reached out to Gallan Maxwell's
attorney asking for a new interview.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I don't know about it. Yes, I think it's
something that would be sounds appropriate to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you Do you have any concern that your deputy
Attorney general, who's your former attorney, would be conducting the
interview given.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, he's a very talented person, he's very smart. I
didn't know that they were going to do it. I
don't really follow that too much. He's such a bad liar.
Pathological liars are terrible at lying because they don't actually
know what they're lying. Sounds like to sane people. I
(16:18):
don't really follow that too much. Donald Trump actually said
that about the Epstein files. Donald Trump says it sounds
appropriate for his former criminal defense lawyer to be talking
to Julane Maxwell's criminal defense lawyer to get something from
Julane Maxwell in exchange for what from Donald Trump or
(16:42):
Donald Trump's former criminal defense lawyer. What does he have
to offer to Julane Maxwell? Know nothing about that, nothing,
Nothing about that sounds appropriate. Donald Trump has already hit
Republican Tom Massey as hard as he can, and Thomas
(17:04):
Massey for now is still standing. This morning, Thomas Massey said, this.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
President's consultants have spent one point eight million dollars against me,
and I got a new tweet last night or a
truth social last night, and clearly that was because I've
done this Epstein file.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Like dogs don't bark at parked cars.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Right this bill is moving, this is coming to a vote.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
We've got enough Republican co sponsors of the bill twice
as many as we need right now, such that when
they sign it, and every Democrat signs this, we're going
to force a vote on it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's not going away, after Thomas Massey said that the
Speaker of the House decided to recess the House Representatives
for the rest of the summer to avoid Thomas Massey
and Rocanna's discharge petition overwhelming the House Representatives this week,
and so Mike Johnson's seems to have guaranteed that the
hust Representatives will once again take its place as the
(18:05):
battleground over the Epstein files in September and Thomas Massey's
words it's not going away,
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