August 19, 2025 • 51 mins
Rosemary DeTrolio walks between worlds—channeling angels, healing with light, and guiding souls to awaken the wisdom within. My friend, Ruth Ratliff, vibrational sound therapist interviewed me.
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And the last one is playfulness.And that car just reminds us to
have time to enjoy yourself, to do things you love to do.
Because part of being in a high vibration state is enjoying
laughter, is enjoying people youlove, is getting out in nature,
you know, So the vibration can increase when you focus your
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intention on raising it for you and for people around you.
My guest for this next conversation is Rosemary De
Troglio of Hands of Light by Rosemary.
Her mission is to teach people how to harness their inner
gifts, safely connect with the divine realm, and guide people
to make positive life shifts with workshops, sessions, Angel
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readings, and educational speaking engagements.
She specializes in Reiki training and sessions, Angel
communication workshops, and intuitive development.
She is a Reiki Master Teacher with 26 years of experience and
a member of many professional organizations.
I'd like to welcome Rosemary to the channel, and I hope you
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enjoy the conversation. Come along with us as we dive
into the fascinating world of sound, exploring its many
dimensions, blending the best ofboth worlds to uncover the
secrets of sound, voice and vibration.
Hello everyone. I am so honored to welcome
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Rosemary Ditrolio of Hands of Light by Rosemary to this
conversation today. Hello and welcome.
Rosemary is actually a neighbor of mine 4 houses down from where
I live. I've known her 20 years almost
now. Yeah.
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It's like, Oh my gosh. Ever since we've, I've lived
here and, and she has been a wonderful friend as well as
somebody that I have done a lot of collaborations with and she
has been one of the biggest supporters of of my work.
And I so appreciate you and. I love what you do and I'm
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excited that that we're doing this today because you do
wonderful work as well and I love working with you, so it's
all fun. Yes, it is, and it's all very
similar. I'm going to have you talk a
little bit about what you do next, but all very similar to,
you know, as we say, everything's vibration.
So right, working with sound, working with energy, and
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Rosemary is predominantly an energy worker.
So, Rosemary, would you just letus know what you and how you
work? Certainly so I come off of a
very extensive career in education, so I did that for 32
years. But I was always very good
reading energy of people and children and parents.
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So I started my business back in2000 and I started learning
Reiki. I guess 1996 I learned Reiki,
which is energy work. So not only do I do sessions for
people, but I do long distance Reiki.
I teach Reiki. I also work with with the Angel
realm. And I've been a channeler since
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1993 and I'm able to tap into the divine, the divine source of
light, and get messages for people from their their angels,
their guides, and even read their Akashic records in past
life. So that's been a beautiful
journey. And because I was a teacher, I
love to educate people on growing their internal gifts,
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working with intuition, working with all this this stuff that
they have bubbling underneath from childhood.
They don't know what's there. So those are some of my
passions. And I also write.
So I'm an author of 10 publishedbooks right now.
And her books are wonderful too.You know, it's funny because I
love reading kids books. I just do.
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I love writing books. Even now, yeah, even now they're
just, I love the fantasy. I've always loved fantasy
realms, you know, stories about that and her books are so
engaging. I've read everyone of them.
I love them. And it's funny because I've, I
love seeing your, your progression, your development as
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a writer through the years that I've been reading your books.
And it's really wonderful. You're a wonderful storyteller,
Rosemary. Oh, wonderful.
It's I enjoy it so much and all these these thoughts are in my
brain so it's fun to get them down and share them.
Thank you. Yeah.
Do you channel the while you're writing?
I don't know, I, I know that when I was writing Time Wheel,
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the story just kind of dropped in and I don't know if it was
channelled, but I know that there was messages they wanted
me to infuse in the book. But in kind of a way that that
was kind of like going in the back door and figuring out, you
know, like letting kids know about how you can transform
yourself and how good deeds matter and things like that.
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So I, I believe probably it was,I know I was guided.
I had a lot of strange things happen while I was writing that
book. When I was writing there was 2
characters in there that were Tibetan and I had the name
Tenzen and Yeshi in the originalbook.
And I was working at the park 1 summer and people booked in a
campsite and the names was Tenzen and Yeshi.
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And that couldn't have happened in a million years.
And I kept a copy of the paper. I'm like, no one would ever
believe this weird coincidence. Other things I was at an event
and in my story, there's a there's a magical time prayer
wheel. And as I go into the event, the
first man that I see at the table, the vendor was a Tibetan
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man and he had a prayer wheel onthe table with, with a saying on
the front of it that I wrote in my book.
So it was just another strange thing.
So I, I bought the prayer wheel because no one would believe
that either. I bought it and it actually
opened just like the one I wrotein the book and it has a prayer
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inside of it. And I wrote that before I knew
that they really had prayers inside of them.
So I thought it was a fun a fun coincidence and story for my
book too. That's a jaw dropper.
Seriously. Yeah, there are no coincidences.
It's serendipity. We're being, we are being guided
and spoke to, spoken to every step of the way.
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They know all the intimate details for life and what we
think, what we believe, our pain, our, our desires, Right.
Oh, absolutely. And it's just so beautiful to,
to, you know, it's so beautiful when you start, I think when you
start giving that credence, you know, when you start breaking
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down the, the layers of disbelief.
Yes. And you start for it, then you
start notice even more and more and more, right.
Yes, yes. The openness really, really
helps. And it's really strange because
as I was working on my next book, the same thing started
happening. Like I pulled in and there was a
car with a license plate ram, and that's one of the main
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characters in my book. And then I had another one.
Another strange coincidence during the book where, you know,
something in the book showed up,you know, on a sign or, you
know, just just strange, unusualthings that showed me.
Yeah, that's the next one that has to come out.
This one's almost ready. And it was just kind of like a
like a nod from the Angel sayingcome on now, let's get this one
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out there. So I'm working on that one now.
Yes. Yeah, 'cause it's a lot.
It takes a lot of effort to write, I know.
I wrote my small little book several years ago and it's only
50 pages, but holy macros. Yeah, it's a lot of teeth for
me. Yeah.
And there's always that curve oflike stuff you don't know and
stuff you do know. So, you know, I don't know how
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to format or anything like that.So I, you know, hired someone to
do the the nuts and bolts that Idon't know how to do.
And then, you know, you always go through editing.
There's always something that you miss that I miss, you know,
when I'm writing, so it's great to have eyes on it to help.
Oh, heck, yes. I have more than one stair of
eyes. Absolutely.
Yeah. So just to let the listeners
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know, I I asked Rosemary if it so resonates with her a little
later on in the video. You want to hang around for her
to do a short Angel channeling for the group.
I think that would be wonderful.And I was thinking, too, when
you as a teacher, you taught elementary school, right?
I. Did I taught you actually
primary? Yeah. 32 years in education.
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And as a child growing up yourself, were you supported by
your mom, your dad with your abilities, your gifts?
Nobody knew. Nobody knew.
I was wondering. And was your mom, do you know,
has anybody else in your family?My grandmother, probably my
grandmother, probably my grandmother saw in her dream
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what my grandfather would look like.
And he actually was was with somebody that died when he was
in World War One. You know, she died in, in New
Jersey. So he wound up with almost like
a like a, a fix up wife, which was my my grandmother Mary.
And she dreamt of him before they met.
So she knew he was coming her way.
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So that that's, you know, and she always kind of knew like
where to touch you if your back was sore and things like that.
But other than that, I don't know.
My father is was very intuitive.He'd be able to read people just
by energy. My mother very intelligent, but
very didn't really, you know, heshe had to prove it to her, but
she believed anything. She was more of an eagle, you
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know, like, you know, let's justshow me.
I don't believe it. So they were very different, but
they never knew. Like nobody ever really knew any
of this stuff that I knew or could do till I was an adult.
I just didn't talk about it. It wasn't something I did.
Even though, right, so your parents didn't your your dad
particularly didn't really ask you about seeing things, seeing
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spirit or any impressions. So.
Interesting. And I didn't see spirit as a
child, but I always was really connected with faith and prayer.
And my father always said when Ipray, he knows things are going
to happen. Like so he knew that I had a lot
of faith and he did as well. But he but other than that, no
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one really knew. And I didn't really start
channeling till I was an adult. So some of that didn't show.
But again, my friends kind of knew I had an ability.
I just knew things about them and I, they were go would go to
me automatically if they needed advice or help.
And that was just something that's always been a pattern.
So interesting to me how this seems to be very genetic, you
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know, in families and you wonderwhat is it that's being passed
along because I've seen this so many times.
I've a lot of friends who are psychic, those abilities and
they all will say it's their mom, their grandma.
And it's a lot of time it is thefemale, the divine feminine
lineage, very interestingly. So I'm kind of interested in
what exactly is being passed on because one of the things you
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always say, Rosemary teaches a lot of really wonderful classes
and intuition and guidance and she always says, right, that we
all have this ability. We all do.
Some of us to varying degrees, of course, right.
But I'm wondering what is getting passed along in the is
it in the DNA? Is it out in the field?
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What do you think about that? What's how's that?
I would love to trace back my family lineage and see, you know
what's way back. I don't know.
I know for me, I know my father was intuitive and I'm intuitive.
My grandmother was, so I don't know if that's where it came
from. I do know that I made a choice
to develop the gift based on my blueprint or my life path, and I
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was given a choice to going forward with what I'm doing or
to be scared off my path. Like we all have these tests
that come. And I think The thing is when
you find something that calls toyour heart and you push through
the fear, then that thing that'sin there that you're supposed to
do will will increase and manifest.
And I believe that's what happened for me as well.
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I always had, you know, intuition.
I always trusted my gut, But I trusted it more as time went and
I realized how accurate it was. And, you know, I'd kind of get
hit upside the head if I didn't follow it.
So you kind of learn from the bad and the good.
You know, it's like, oh, I should have listened to myself.
You. Know right right because there
is yes yes the more I'm beginning to the more I'm living
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the more I'm realizing I think there is a divine blueprint that
we are being guided to follow and of course there's free will
you know but. That's important.
Yeah. But they're always, I think
trying to so, right, push you inthat direction.
And I think we probably agree tothis or we make our own
blueprint up before we come herein the body.
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So it's very fascinating as a teacher.
I was going to say before, did you notice that there were kids
in your class that had? Absolutely, yeah.
I can imagine sometimes a child would have an energy field
around them that I could see, like purple, and that was very
common with some of the kids that were Hindi.
So they develop a very early religious or spiritual aura
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around them that I was able to couple with my children that I
taught. Another one I taught in first
grade and she drew a picture of me on the first day of school
with a whole energy field aroundme colored in.
And at the time I had a photograph taken at an event.
And the two things matched to the to the expect that there was
an Angel behind me and rainbows shooting out of my hands after I
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had learned how to do energy healing.
And she had seen it. And she always said, oh, you
have such pretty colors. And this was a six year old who
now is probably in her 30s, probably 38 years old.
And she still is incredible intuitive.
And I ran into her recently and she remembered me and we talked
about it. And I reminded her that story
about her drawing this picture of me.
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And she goes, oh, yeah. She goes I I learned through
life, really followed my gut, really follow my intuition.
How? Really interesting to come
across her again. Very interesting, yeah.
Do you think that there are morechildren?
I'm noticing that seems like it seems like and I'm reading,
hearing that there are a lot more children coming in now with
a lot higher ability, intuitive.Abilities.
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Yes, I'm seeing that probably within the past 15 years.
Also, you'll notice there's a lot more autistic kids on the
spectrum. Those kids came in at such a
high frequency that when they dropped in, they can't jive up
the, the heavy earth energies with their own.
So sometimes those kids have very high spiritual gifts, but
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you can't see them right away. You know, those kids might
keyboard something or say something really profound.
I've done readings for a couple kids that were autistic and as
adults, they're, they're quite gifted in, in understanding the
spiritual realm. But as children they were like
bound in this heavy body and they're, they're trying to like
navigate and kind of ground themselves to it.
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So I've seen that as well. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was
wondering. We have two special needs
grandchildren and both very interesting.
I can tell the young man is who's 19 now.
I think he's going to be 20 soon.
He he definitely is sensitive. I can feel it for sure, you
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know, but you wouldn't, you know, but very low functioning
in other areas. But there's a sensitivity to him
that is far beyond his years. Yes, yes, yeah.
Interesting. Yes, very tough.
I wanted to share a story about you and about how, you know our
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early time together. When I met you, I didn't realize
that there was, you know, somebody down the road from me
that did this until I had the need, I guess, for it.
And the spirit maybe led me to you.
But my husband and I were going through a very difficult time in
our life. We had, we were building,
actually we were renovating a the oldest schoolhouse in our
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county and came up with a lot ofresistance from the area.
The neighbors got the DEP healthdepartment involved.
It was just terrible. And it was, it was an awful
thing. We wound up suing the IT was
just a big mess. Anyway, it was like 5 years,
five years, $50,000 later in credit card debt.
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I was at my wit's end and I really was, you know, I didn't
know what to do. I didn't know what to do because
my husband has he, he's very, heis a very what, what's the word
moral man. And he has a lot of, you know,
he, he really, he wants to do good.
He, he, he sees the good in people.
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He's but he has a lot of fight energy, you know, but when
something, when something is wrong, you know what?
There's a wrong being done. He's trying, he wants to write
it anyway. So that what, what's what kept
him going, But it was to our detriment at that point.
And I didn't know what to do. And I said, honey, why don't you
go see? I said there's an Angel lady
going to go down the road here. I call it the Angel leader Angel
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lady. And amazingly, he went.
And during that reading, I thinkyou said two archangels came
through and told him that if he didn't stop this, he you know,
it's, it's repeating. It was a lesson he was learning
from trying to learn from another lifetime and that if he
didn't stop, he was going to lose me and lose his life, going
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to have a heart attack or something.
And he came back from that reading and he stood in front of
me and he said, I'm going to drop the lawsuit.
And you could have knocked me with a feather because it was.
And when I say Rosemary saved mymarriage, I'm serious.
That's literally. Yeah.
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Because that was so. Yeah.
You remember that, right? It was so impacting for him,
tremendously impacting. And Rosemary and I also
recently, this past year have collaborated with the sound
therapy. We do a beautiful event where we
she does Reiki and I will do sound therapy.
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We have people lay in anti gravity chairs and it's it's
been amazing for people. I think that the combination,
you know, talking about the vibration right of the Reiki and
the sound. And if you want to speak into
that a little bit about the profundities that that is the
word right of these two modalities, the combinations.
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I think the sound is really incredible because they're,
they're, they're hearing that astheir body is reaching this
relaxed state. So what I'm doing, raking on
them, it's allowing them to be in such a state of relaxation
that their body will shift very quickly.
And we've seen this, these shifts and these movements, and
people are seeing things and they're having these great
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experiences seeing, you know, one woman tell me she saw the
virgin mother when I touched her.
That's right. Another person said that they
felt like their chest opened andthey saw a pink light and light
and pink is the color of love. And my hands were sending her
pink light to her heart center. So her she was actually
experiencing it. And the sound just really is, is
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just a beautiful experience to be in that setting with the
sound as well. And I know years ago, before you
started working with sound therapy, the angels told me to
tell you, you know, when you're reading that your path was to
work with sound healing and to shift people with this modality.
So it's very cool that it's comefull circle and we're, we're
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actually working as a team now to do this.
So. Amazing.
Amazing. Yeah.
And I wasn't even. I mean, I've, I'm a singer,
right? So I was always working with
sound of vibration, my own soundof vibration and also a voice
teacher, but not to the level that I'm doing now.
So very, very fascinating how you were hearing that earlier
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on. Yeah.
I often wonder like as far as from a frequency standpoint, you
being so sensitive to that. We are working together and
literally they're, they talk about sound now.
Sound, you know, they say sound travels in waves, but we found
out that it comes out in a big holographic bubble form is in
the middle or something like that.
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I'm probably not explaining it. Torsen field right?
Is that the Torsen field it? Can be a Taurus field?
Yes. That's the like the
electromagnetic fields of our heart brain, right?
But it comes out in this beautiful big bubble.
And so it's literally surrounding you, me and our
clients as far as you're concerned.
Do you think because that sound has it raises your vibration, Do
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you think that makes your Reiki abilities heightens it somehow?
I just think because I'm, I worka lot with clearing myself, it's
just a way that also allows thisenergy to infuse.
So I don't know, you know, it doesn't feel different to me
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when I'm doing it in my office or there.
But what's cool about it is I'm also getting this gift of
hearing you sing and the sound around me.
So to me, it's like a special gift on top of helping other
people. I'm getting this little bonus
from you because I'm in this ocean of sound just like the
other people that we're working on.
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So it helps. Fun.
Yeah, it supports you while you're doing the work.
Yeah, Yeah, it does. It's it's a it's very nice.
And I, I love, you know what I'mhearing you.
I get visions of who you're channeling that you're not
realizing channeling. They're coming in and I'm, I'm
seeing your guides come in as you're singing at the end.
And that's really cool because Iknow that what I'm experiencing
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is what you are actually singing.
And I've, you know, I, I can seeyour guides.
It's it's very neat. That's, that's an interesting
thing. I I must have agreed to have
stopped my certain abilities in this lifetime because I rely on
other people. I don't rely, but they will tell
me that are psychic like yourself that they will say, oh,
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I saw this, that and the other thing and this this guy and that
person and that spirit while youwere playing or singing and I I
haven't a clue. So it's interesting.
Yeah. I think he said something.
There was some Hawaiian. There's a Hawaiian, you see a
Polynesian guide, you have a Native American one that came in
last time, a shaman or a woman that was singing.
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I saw her with a basket. The other thing I'm thinking of
is because your sound is so heightened and your clear
audience is so heightened, that's the thing that they've
developed a lot in you. So the third eye, which is the
seeing, may not be something youchose to open in this lifetime
because it would distract you from the sound.
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So it could be that's why you'renot seeing it and it's just
really going on trust and faith that you are bringing this
energy out. Very good, very good.
And I think that's what I need too, is the faith, Rosemary,
because I still have that like many of us who are in doing this
work or, or doing any work for that matter, or just being a
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human being on the planet, we all have that self doubt of the
impostor syndrome. You know, who am I to do this?
Can I really help people with this?
And you know, I keep, I think that's what it is.
I'm, I'm trying to learn how to trust, trust my own abilities,
trust the trust the divine that's moving through me, moves
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through all of us. Yes, without.
Once you do, I think that's the block and I think once you trust
it, then more things will open. Because what happened to me when
I was channeling years ago, whenI was very, very new at it and I
didn't do for anyone else, just me, I would check all the
information, which is probably agood thing to do because, you
know, you don't just want to follow blindly, right?
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So my angels would send me a word like in Sanskrit or ancient
Greek that I don't speak. And I'd stop the reading and I'd
look it up and I'd realize it was a real word.
Or they'd give me something likethe word nadas, which I've never
heard of before. And I looked it up and it's
actually a yoga term for the naughty on the OR like a, like a
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blockage in one of the chakras. I didn't know that.
So like I realized that what they're doing is I'm really
getting information, real information.
And then when I was all done, they'd go, are you done wasting
our time? Let's get back to our work.
But I knew they did, they did, they had to do it for me because
again, they knew that I would question.
So way back in 93, I've learned that what they're telling me is
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real. And I've done so many readings
for people and it's been proven through their experience and
through things about them that Iknow it was authentic.
Like, you know, the person that was afraid of lions, that was a,
a, a sacrifice, you know, in Roman times.
And then she wouldn't go to the zoo 'cause she was terrified of
lions. So after my reading with her,
she realized that this was an old fear from Roman days, had
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nothing to do with now, you know, So that those kind of
things proved to me that the information that comes in is, is
really from from them. And I so I don't question
anymore. I just know to go with it and
just have faith that whatever itis, it is and the person will
get it. Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting when you can corroborate.
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Yes, your, your readings and your intuitive, your intuition,
your intuitive findings. Yeah, that whole thing about
past lives, that's incredible tome.
It's so not what in our learningculture, in our culture and but,
but so many times like people will have like scars, right?
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They'll have like scars on theirbody somewhere or a mark.
And then they find out later through a reading that they got
speared or something, you know, in another lifetime.
And it just makes sense. And I have a.
Cool story about that. One of my clients came to me and
I didn't realize this, but when I did the reading for her, I
found out that she, you know, she had done the Sundance, which
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is the Native American thing thing as a male.
And they, you know, they grab your skin and you're in the sun
for hours and then your skin rips.
And then there was like a sign on her.
It was a circle and it had a cross through it like a Native
American sign, right? I didn't know this when I
channeled for her after I had told her, you know, you were a
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Native American. You had done the Sundance.
You were marked with the sign ofyour people.
And I drew it on paper and I showed it to her.
She opened up her shirt and she was born with a scar.
It was a circle with a square init, and it was right on her
chest. I you know, I didn't know that
before. You didn't know it.
No, and that was what that another like for me that's like,
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you know, a heads up, like look,you know, we're we're really
telling you this stuff. Other strange things.
I had a woman that she came to me with like long sleeves on and
pants and I was doing Reiki on her and I'm seeing a crossbow,
I'm seeing a leather outfit. I'm seeing her as male and then
I'm seeing roses go up in Arbor,right?
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So I asked her after I said, listen, I'm getting all these
visions of you. What's up with this?
Well, her hobby was crossbow. She loved dressing with leather,
a leather vest. When she did her crossbow stuff,
she pulled up her arms and therewas tattoos of roses all the way
up both of her arms. And I'm like, I can't make that
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off, you know? You can't make it my brain I.
Can't. It came in my brain and I and I,
I was confident enough to share it, even though it sounded
bizarre to me. But she was saying, oh, yeah, I
love the crossbow. That's one of my hobbies.
I love medieval festivals and she's going on and on.
But it was exactly what I was seeing.
So in this lifetime, she was walking through what she loved
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from a past, from the past lifetime that she had here.
You know, I thought that was really neat.
Yeah, I know, right? You've gotten so much proof, I
mean so much over the years. My God, I didn't get it when I
needed it though, Ruth in the very beginning, it was like,
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just keep going and the proof will come after you don't need
it. And that's the part that's
frustrating because when you really need it, you're not
getting it. It's after you finally say, OK,
I get it. So many coincidences.
This must be real. Then I started getting proof
like when I don't need it anymore.
I think you have to surrender. Yes.
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You know, we just, I just did another another interview with
somebody and we were talking about Wayne Dyer's quote.
You'll see it when you believe it.
That's. Absolutely true.
Not the other way around. Not the other way around.
It's you have to surrender to faith.
You're surrendering. And it's, there's always that I,
I guess it's the ego, you know, always wants us is kind of
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protecting itself. Maybe because if we, if we
surrender, we're what are we surrendering?
We're surrendering our idea of ourselves.
Yeah. Absolutely life, what we're
doing here and that has to say, talk about the death of the ego.
And that's, you know, I love my,the shaman's death.
Yes, I love my ego, but it it can't it, it doesn't define me.
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You know, I don't the ego needs to learn what, what it is or
what you know, what, what it is.Is it really?
And it's I think it's an overlaywhen we come here in this
healthy, right? Does that make sense?
What they told me is that each experience you choose a
personality, therefore your ego,right?
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You have a different body that your soul is poured into and you
have your blueprint, which helpsyou navigate through life.
Then if I go and I come back again, I might choose a
different body and a different personality.
Because with each personality, you experience what that
person's perception is. So your perception will change
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with the body, the person that you choose.
And the idea is to meld the personality, your ego, with
spiritual understanding. And when these two things are In
Sync with each other, you're able to more clearly not let the
ego define you. It's more like this is my choice
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to surrender, to learn and perceive from a different point
of view. And it's usually a higher
vibration point of view than my daily concerns of, oh, is my
hair nice? You know, what does my face look
like today? And you know, it, it's it moves
us away from from over concern with us and more concern with
opening to this light that we can share.
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So it's a little different perception.
It's nice when her hair looks nice, you know?
Yeah, Rosemary and I were just talking about a sale at Macy's
before. Yes, yes, absolutely.
You know, I mean, because yeah, I'm a girly girl and I love to
shop and I love to play around with my hair and makeup and all
that stuff. And isn't there a certain, I
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mean, we're here on what are we here on earth for?
Are we here on earth to be, you know, completely spiritual and,
you know, completely simple and aesthetic and and, you know, I
mean, I think that's brings me joy for.
Some people but right it's. Fun.
It's joyful. It's joyful to create who you
are. It's joyful to, you know, look
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your best if it makes you feel good and you're able to go out
in the world feeling like, you know, like a power, a power
goddess, right? So that's perfectly fine.
I think right now we're seeing in the culture, the younger
people are so obsessed with perfection of what they look
like, that that's the thing thatinterferes.
Like they're pumping their lips and they're 20 years old, You
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know, they're doing this. They're doing that when they're
perfectly beautiful the way theyare, and they don't need to
believe that they're not how they should be.
And I think that's the danger. I think when someone's overly
obsessed with that, it, it interferes.
And nothing wrong with looking good, right?
But I think the culture is teaching these young people that
they're not good enough unless they have a certain amount of
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views, unless their hair's a certain way and their lips look
a certain way or their boobs aregigantic.
You know, it's just they're getting the wrong message about
who they are. So I think that's really
important to help who you are, you know, and your inner self
and your authentic self, along with, you know, going out in the
world and being you, you know. Totally totally couldn't agree
more about that. I'm, I'm always amazed when I
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see the the social media ads for, you know, wrinkles.
And these girls are like you say, they're in their 20s or
they're, they're, they're terrified of turning 30.
Yeah, turning 30 to 30. Your.
Goodness, you're a baby at 30. That's what you.
I mean, you're beautiful at any age really.
And wrinkles. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a,
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it's not a, a, an empowering message.
And I do believe that the socialmedia, unfortunately, or our,
our, our desire to be loved and liked is, is really, it's, it's
being hijacked by social media because we, yeah, because people
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are looking so much outside of themselves for that information
and that right. And thinking, especially if
you're young and you haven't hadenough time, like to really, you
know, get a sense of yourself, you will, you know, you're
giving into that, that insecurity, you know, of, of not
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of, of not looking like everybody else looks.
And that's right being like, like everybody else.
And this one has more likes thanme and I.
Know it's kind of dangerous because these young people are
getting a, a message that, that they are lacking in some way,
when in instead they should be getting the message, you know,
grow who you are inside and, and, and harness your gifts and
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love who you are as a person andbegin to deepen that.
And once should do. It's like you, you, you know, I
don't have to ask 99 different people what I should do with my
life because my core of who I amis developed.
And I think that's the thing. These young people are kind of
missing that development of who you are and, and just even being
able to navigate problems in your life.
I think, you know, if you coddlepeople too much and they never
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go through a difficulty, they don't know how to fare as an
adult. And that's what we're seeing
with a lot of these over over parented young adults.
You know, they've been Molly coddled, as they, as they say,
and they, they don't know how tomake a decision or, or how to
stand their ground. They just cave and and that's
really sad. Yeah, helicopter parenting,
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yeah, I see it a lot. And people, yeah, yeah, I, I
think that developed after 911. I thought I, I, I almost seem
like the, the people that were children in that period who grew
up and had kids, I think there was a lot of fear and I think it
developed. It just that that just seemed
like that developed more. Yeah, 'cause I mean, my God, the
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stuff that we used to do when wewere kids.
Oh, I know. Be like our parents would would
have been called up on child abuse charges.
Oh yeah, yeah, Now you. Know we're out in the morning at
at sun up and we'd come home fordinner and we'd be out at day
and we'd be out the at the lake or at the beach.
We'd be sat in BBQ fires and cooking food.
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You know, it's like any of the stuff you can't do now.
And I think, you know, I always say that we were probably the
last free generation, you know, we, we had more freedoms.
It was a little safer in the world maybe.
But we also trusted, you know, we trusted our ourselves to make
decisions. Our parents never involve
themselves in spats between a friend.
That was not done, you know, go figure it out.
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Go talk to your friend, figure it out, you know, and they
wouldn't be bothered stepping inand trying to call the parent
and say, oh, your your daughter called my daughter and ninny,
you know, that never happened. That never happened.
We were kids, you know? Your parents would just know
that, you know, take care of it.Your friendship, you know.
Absolutely. You do you.
Yeah, I remember with my little brother had he was much, he was
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pretty small. He didn't get big until he got
older and he had asthma. And you know, we'd walked,
walked to school together on across the very busy overpass
highway. But there was this guy, a bully
named Jay Conroy. I'm going to say your name Jay,
because I forgive you. I do.
I do forgive you. But he used to beat up on my
little brother. And one time I remember he had a
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my he's this guy was huge and hehad my brother underneath him,
you know, beating on him and my brother's.
I jumped on that guy's back and I started beating the crap out
of him. I did.
I was like, you know, Can you imagine today?
I don't know, it's just but my mother, we told, I don't even
think we even told my my parentsthat I just took care of it.
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Yes, yeah, I, I don't know. It's, it's a whole different
world now. That's all I can say.
And you know, I, I understand, you know, people are growing up
with different, different valuesand ways they do things.
So yes, you know, there is a change and we're we're, we're
seeing it. And, you know, I think these
people as they, I think life experience will help to kind of,
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you know, smooth that out a little bit and maybe give them
some awareness as they get older.
But it's interesting to me how the vibration generally, the
frequency of our abilities and the world and the earth and
humanity is raising at the same time.
There's all this underlying, yeah, yeah.
It's like this dichotomy of of the the, the, the light in the
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dark. I guess the duality right They.
Tell you, yeah, the angels, I channeled it from the angels
probably a good 15 years ago. They said there's going to be an
overhaul and a pull between light and darkness.
They also told me about a worldwide situation that we
would all walk through and the light workers would have to keep
people positive because it wouldbe something that would affect
the world. And I couldn't imagine what it
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was. But when COVID happened, I'm
like, oh, that's what it was. You know, people would die, but
other people that would, would be on a path would, would
sustain and be OK. So I don't know.
But yeah, power of light in darkness.
And I think we sing a lot. It plays out in the news and it
plays out what you listen to. And, you know, so we say turn
off the negative and just focus on where you are right now in
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the world and do your best to towork to bring light to that
'cause that will eventually, I guess, spread to other people.
Beautiful. Let's hope that that's that's
the thing that happens. Pray yes, yes.
And set our intention for that. Yes.
I think that's very powerful. When two or more are gathered in
prayer, Power of the power of prayer, the power of our
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intention is huge. So I think that's a beautiful
segue into a channeling if you would like to share that with us
and you were going to look at your car.
And what? Yeah.
So usually when I channel, you know, I pray for a person I'm
channeling for and I, I get a message.
So the main message that I got today was basically to step into
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light and to not focus on anything that's negative or low
vibration. And the more people that do
that, the higher mind will become.
It's kind of like the 100th monkey, you know, you get 100
people doing one thing and then then something will shift.
So what we're trying to do is shift the vibration over our
country, shift the vibration in our immediate surroundings.
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And the couple cards I pulled today, these are cards I've had
for 30 years. First one was support.
So that is support in positive like minded.
Groups and those are people thatare looking for higher mind.
The second one I got is to understand that divine timing
happens at the moment when it iscorrect.
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So even if you want something tohappen today, it does not
necessarily mean it will happen.It'll happen when all the
conditions are right for everyone that is in that
situation. So it's the like, kind of like
the highest good for all people that are in that situation.
Harmony would be the gift because when you are using
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higher mind, it creates A harmonious setting.
They'll never be backbiting. They'll never be people
bullying, calling names to otherpeople.
That is low vibration energy. High vibration energy supports
each other for the highest good of all.
And the last one is playfulness.And that card just reminds us to
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have time to enjoy yourself, to do things you love to do.
Because part of being in a high vibration state is enjoying
laughter, is enjoying people youlove, is getting out in nature,
you know, so the vibration can increase when you focus your
intention on raising it for you and for people around you.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, no, Beautiful, beautiful.
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I'm I can cut this out. So here we are.
There's that Now I'm I'm trying show grid view.
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Why did they change this stuff? I know I I don't like what they
did with the zoom. No, I don't.
I don't. Kind of confusing.
It is confusing. I can't even.
I'm going to say escape. OK, there's escape.
That's not what I wanted. View gallery.
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(42:28):
Yeah, I should be back now. OK, Am I back?
Yes, you're back. Well, you didn't.
You didn't get lost. OK, there I am.
All right, so here we are. Yeah, I think there were.
So what were the things you werethat could the card, the second
card, what was that? That was.
So it was support. Yeah, there we go.
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Divine timing. That was a second one.
So divine timing means the righttime for something to happen
cannot be forced by our will. It it's when it's the right time
for all of the people. Involved.
Yeah, I think like the big card,yeah, the divine timing I think
is a lot of people are going when's, when's things going to
happen? When, when are things going to
be changing? Everybody's getting impatient or
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there's a general feeling of that.
But it has there has to be like,enjoy the journey, you know, and
not force. That's right.
And a lot of times we want our will to force something before
it's ready. So it's kind of like when you're
baking bread and you're and you want to take it out of the oven
too soon. It's like a big slimy mess.
You have to wait for the timing to be correct.
So it's fully baked and a lot ofright now there's a lot of not
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baked energy around. So we're waiting for everything
to kind of settle in and bake. So the gift of it is harmony.
And harmony is a word that stands for, you know, which is
great music, musical thing here.Just what when things are a
harmonious mix and they're not discordant.
Right now we have discordant energy on earth.
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Harmonizing is the music of the spheres is the music of all
nature is it's in our bodies, it's everywhere.
So the harmony can result from vibrations that are In Sync with
each other and that's what we want to do.
So I always say surround yourself with energies that are
In Sync with you as well. So if you have a friend or
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people in your life that are very negative in their
vibration, you want to limit your connections or your time
and surround yourself with like minded high vibration people.
And that helps us to raise the vibration of low vibration
people to a greater degree. Yeah, and definitely playing
playfulness. Yes, don't don't take to.
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Play. Don't take it so seriously,
right? That's my thing.
Don't you know, enjoy play, havejoy, cultivate the joy.
And I think that that doing these modalities like Reiki and
sound therapy and meditation, yoga, anything, you know, like
that can really help us all. Slavery.
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To be more aware of how we are moving through our own life.
Are we reacting to outside, you know, influences or are we, are
we going inward and then responding to them?
You know, there's a, there's a feeling of, of being here
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centered here rather than alwaysout here because that creates
chaos. And and you could never like all
those they people. You could never make all those
they people happy. And a lot of people live their
life with the they they they want.
What do they think? What do they want?
What are they thinking of me? And really, people are so wound
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up in themselves, they're just thinking of them.
So you have to go into your center and feel the vibration of
does this decision feel right? Is this right for me?
You know, what is my next step? Instead of going over there and
wondering what they're thinking of you because you'll never
satisfy those people because those people are always other
people, right? So it's all about finding your
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center. Right.
And self love going in inward toyourself.
Yeah, which is not an ease. As I said before.
I think that that comes with a certain sense of life experience
and wisdom. Yeah.
I mean it. You couldn't have told me this
stuff at 20, you know? Yeah, to an extent, maybe, you
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know? Yeah.
Yeah. When we come to it, When we come
to it, right? Yes, it has been an honor having
you on today and I so appreciateyou and the work that you are
doing in the world. Thank you so much and I
appreciate spending this time with you and I love what you do
and I hope people partake in both what we, what you do and
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what I do for our businesses. And and you know, we're, we're
out to, to bring light into the world.
And to help and you do work virtually, I believe you said.
Yeah, I meet with people on Zoomfor transformational talk
session, long distance or a key workshops.
And I have a lot of workshops. There's a free one called Dip
Your Toe In, which is on my website, rosemaryd.com.
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I have some chapters of my book and if you go to my website,
you'll see all my books, excuse me, on my other website called
Grow Your Spirit. And also I have a podcast every
Tuesday at 10 on Bull Brave TV. OK, just call.
Yeah, No take. Take your time.
Just stop and let's do that again.
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Just stop. Just wait.
This way we're fine. No rush.
I can I can cut, edit any of this.
I can make it. Look real pretty.
Oh, that's good. OK yeah.
So my I have a podcast called the light walkers path Grow your
spirit with Rosemary. It's on Bold Brave TV every
Tuesday at 10 Eastern. You if you can't find the link,
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you can go to my website, rosemaryd.com and you'll you'll
see the directions for how to find it.
But it'll stream the live on allthe platforms, you know,
YouTube, etcetera. You can call in when it's live,
you can text, text or ask a question, or you can view it
later in my archive on Bull Brief TV or on my website.
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I do include our videos and I know I did one with you, Ruth,
which is there also. Yeah.
So I have very fascinating guests and I also instruct on
there some weeks on my own. Very good, and you also have
your books, so I'll be putting links to all this down in the.
Description. Thank you.
Rosemary's website and books andeverything.
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And what else can we say about Rosemary?
You do. I think you said you have a
couple freebies on your website.Too, I do, I do, I have they
can. So a couple things.
The workshop in the self study area called dip Your toe in is a
free workshop and and that's allyou know, you can do that at
your leisure. I have other ones there as well.
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I have one on crystals and be your Own superhero.
There's a whole bunch of different ones there.
I also have live workshops in New Jersey at my Home Office,
and some of these I also provideon Zoom Live.
So you know, if you join my mailing list or contact me, you
can be on the list and you'll know what's coming up.
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So that's there too. You can see my gifts.
I have two chapters you can download for one of my books, so
if you go to Grateful Giveaways on my website you can find the
free stuff, including a video there.
You can watch it and enjoy it. Wonderful.
Yeah, Rosemary. Rosemary and I both are what?
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What, what? What do we call ourselves?
Movers and shakers. Movers and shakers and over.
Yeah, over and Chambers. Over achievers, workaholics.
And then I see some other peoplewho are like, but 10 times what
I'm doing, and it's like, how doyou do this?
I can barely keep things, no. Just what I'm doing is what I
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want to do. So I give myself time to have
fun between have a rest day because you, if you overdo what
you're doing, you're going to burn yourself out.
So one of the things that I've learned and that I'm deciding to
do at my age is I have to do self-care.
I book, you know, a day here andthere for nobody, you know,
except for me and my family. So you know I work.
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That into yeah, it's important, crucial for you, especially if
you're doing energy work. Yeah, wonderful.
Yeah. Well, again, it was such a
pleasure to talk to you and to hear all your amazing stories
and just the to open us up. Every time I think we hear
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things like this, it opens up. It, it, it, it, it breaks
through a little bit of that disbelief and it opens us up to
the amazing, amazing world that we truly live in and are part
of. And I think our interdimensional
nature as well, I believe that we really are that and it's
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coming so excited. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Ruth. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for today. You bet.
Thank you much love. Bye.
And the last one is playfulness.And that car just reminds us to
have time to enjoy yourself, to do things you love to do.
Because part of being in a high vibration state is enjoying
laughter, is enjoying people youlove, is getting out in nature,
you know, So the vibration can increase when you focus your
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intention on raising it for you and for people around you.
My guest for this next conversation is Rosemary De
Troglio of Hands of Light by Rosemary.
Her mission is to teach people how to harness their inner
gifts, safely connect with the divine realm, and guide people
to make positive life shifts with workshops, sessions, Angel
(00:45):
readings, and educational speaking engagements.
She specializes in Reiki training and sessions, Angel
communication workshops, and intuitive development.
She is a Reiki Master Teacher with 26 years of experience and
a member of many professional organizations.
I'd like to welcome Rosemary to the channel, and I hope you
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enjoy the conversation. Come along with us as we dive
into the fascinating world of sound, exploring its many
dimensions, blending the best ofboth worlds to uncover the
secrets of sound, voice and vibration.
Hello everyone. I am so honored to welcome
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Rosemary Ditrolio of Hands of Light by Rosemary to this
conversation today. Hello and welcome.
Rosemary is actually a neighbor of mine 4 houses down from where
I live. I've known her 20 years almost
now. Yeah.
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It's like, Oh my gosh. Ever since we've, I've lived
here and, and she has been a wonderful friend as well as
somebody that I have done a lot of collaborations with and she
has been one of the biggest supporters of of my work.
And I so appreciate you and. I love what you do and I'm
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excited that that we're doing this today because you do
wonderful work as well and I love working with you, so it's
all fun. Yes, it is, and it's all very
similar. I'm going to have you talk a
little bit about what you do next, but all very similar to,
you know, as we say, everything's vibration.
So right, working with sound, working with energy, and
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Rosemary is predominantly an energy worker.
So, Rosemary, would you just letus know what you and how you
work? Certainly so I come off of a
very extensive career in education, so I did that for 32
years. But I was always very good
reading energy of people and children and parents.
(02:57):
So I started my business back in2000 and I started learning
Reiki. I guess 1996 I learned Reiki,
which is energy work. So not only do I do sessions for
people, but I do long distance Reiki.
I teach Reiki. I also work with with the Angel
realm. And I've been a channeler since
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1993 and I'm able to tap into the divine, the divine source of
light, and get messages for people from their their angels,
their guides, and even read their Akashic records in past
life. So that's been a beautiful
journey. And because I was a teacher, I
love to educate people on growing their internal gifts,
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working with intuition, working with all this this stuff that
they have bubbling underneath from childhood.
They don't know what's there. So those are some of my
passions. And I also write.
So I'm an author of 10 publishedbooks right now.
And her books are wonderful too.You know, it's funny because I
love reading kids books. I just do.
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I love writing books. Even now, yeah, even now they're
just, I love the fantasy. I've always loved fantasy
realms, you know, stories about that and her books are so
engaging. I've read everyone of them.
I love them. And it's funny because I've, I
love seeing your, your progression, your development as
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a writer through the years that I've been reading your books.
And it's really wonderful. You're a wonderful storyteller,
Rosemary. Oh, wonderful.
It's I enjoy it so much and all these these thoughts are in my
brain so it's fun to get them down and share them.
Thank you. Yeah.
Do you channel the while you're writing?
I don't know, I, I know that when I was writing Time Wheel,
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the story just kind of dropped in and I don't know if it was
channelled, but I know that there was messages they wanted
me to infuse in the book. But in kind of a way that that
was kind of like going in the back door and figuring out, you
know, like letting kids know about how you can transform
yourself and how good deeds matter and things like that.
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So I, I believe probably it was,I know I was guided.
I had a lot of strange things happen while I was writing that
book. When I was writing there was 2
characters in there that were Tibetan and I had the name
Tenzen and Yeshi in the originalbook.
And I was working at the park 1 summer and people booked in a
campsite and the names was Tenzen and Yeshi.
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And that couldn't have happened in a million years.
And I kept a copy of the paper. I'm like, no one would ever
believe this weird coincidence. Other things I was at an event
and in my story, there's a there's a magical time prayer
wheel. And as I go into the event, the
first man that I see at the table, the vendor was a Tibetan
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man and he had a prayer wheel onthe table with, with a saying on
the front of it that I wrote in my book.
So it was just another strange thing.
So I, I bought the prayer wheel because no one would believe
that either. I bought it and it actually
opened just like the one I wrotein the book and it has a prayer
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inside of it. And I wrote that before I knew
that they really had prayers inside of them.
So I thought it was a fun a fun coincidence and story for my
book too. That's a jaw dropper.
Seriously. Yeah, there are no coincidences.
It's serendipity. We're being, we are being guided
and spoke to, spoken to every step of the way.
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They know all the intimate details for life and what we
think, what we believe, our pain, our, our desires, Right.
Oh, absolutely. And it's just so beautiful to,
to, you know, it's so beautiful when you start, I think when you
start giving that credence, you know, when you start breaking
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down the, the layers of disbelief.
Yes. And you start for it, then you
start notice even more and more and more, right.
Yes, yes. The openness really, really
helps. And it's really strange because
as I was working on my next book, the same thing started
happening. Like I pulled in and there was a
car with a license plate ram, and that's one of the main
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characters in my book. And then I had another one.
Another strange coincidence during the book where, you know,
something in the book showed up,you know, on a sign or, you
know, just just strange, unusualthings that showed me.
Yeah, that's the next one that has to come out.
This one's almost ready. And it was just kind of like a
like a nod from the Angel sayingcome on now, let's get this one
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out there. So I'm working on that one now.
Yes. Yeah, 'cause it's a lot.
It takes a lot of effort to write, I know.
I wrote my small little book several years ago and it's only
50 pages, but holy macros. Yeah, it's a lot of teeth for
me. Yeah.
And there's always that curve oflike stuff you don't know and
stuff you do know. So, you know, I don't know how
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to format or anything like that.So I, you know, hired someone to
do the the nuts and bolts that Idon't know how to do.
And then, you know, you always go through editing.
There's always something that you miss that I miss, you know,
when I'm writing, so it's great to have eyes on it to help.
Oh, heck, yes. I have more than one stair of
eyes. Absolutely.
Yeah. So just to let the listeners
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know, I I asked Rosemary if it so resonates with her a little
later on in the video. You want to hang around for her
to do a short Angel channeling for the group.
I think that would be wonderful.And I was thinking, too, when
you as a teacher, you taught elementary school, right?
I. Did I taught you actually
primary? Yeah. 32 years in education.
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And as a child growing up yourself, were you supported by
your mom, your dad with your abilities, your gifts?
Nobody knew. Nobody knew.
I was wondering. And was your mom, do you know,
has anybody else in your family?My grandmother, probably my
grandmother, probably my grandmother saw in her dream
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what my grandfather would look like.
And he actually was was with somebody that died when he was
in World War One. You know, she died in, in New
Jersey. So he wound up with almost like
a like a, a fix up wife, which was my my grandmother Mary.
And she dreamt of him before they met.
So she knew he was coming her way.
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So that that's, you know, and she always kind of knew like
where to touch you if your back was sore and things like that.
But other than that, I don't know.
My father is was very intuitive.He'd be able to read people just
by energy. My mother very intelligent, but
very didn't really, you know, heshe had to prove it to her, but
she believed anything. She was more of an eagle, you
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know, like, you know, let's justshow me.
I don't believe it. So they were very different, but
they never knew. Like nobody ever really knew any
of this stuff that I knew or could do till I was an adult.
I just didn't talk about it. It wasn't something I did.
Even though, right, so your parents didn't your your dad
particularly didn't really ask you about seeing things, seeing
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spirit or any impressions. So.
Interesting. And I didn't see spirit as a
child, but I always was really connected with faith and prayer.
And my father always said when Ipray, he knows things are going
to happen. Like so he knew that I had a lot
of faith and he did as well. But he but other than that, no
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one really knew. And I didn't really start
channeling till I was an adult. So some of that didn't show.
But again, my friends kind of knew I had an ability.
I just knew things about them and I, they were go would go to
me automatically if they needed advice or help.
And that was just something that's always been a pattern.
So interesting to me how this seems to be very genetic, you
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know, in families and you wonderwhat is it that's being passed
along because I've seen this so many times.
I've a lot of friends who are psychic, those abilities and
they all will say it's their mom, their grandma.
And it's a lot of time it is thefemale, the divine feminine
lineage, very interestingly. So I'm kind of interested in
what exactly is being passed on because one of the things you
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always say, Rosemary teaches a lot of really wonderful classes
and intuition and guidance and she always says, right, that we
all have this ability. We all do.
Some of us to varying degrees, of course, right.
But I'm wondering what is getting passed along in the is
it in the DNA? Is it out in the field?
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What do you think about that? What's how's that?
I would love to trace back my family lineage and see, you know
what's way back. I don't know.
I know for me, I know my father was intuitive and I'm intuitive.
My grandmother was, so I don't know if that's where it came
from. I do know that I made a choice
to develop the gift based on my blueprint or my life path, and I
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was given a choice to going forward with what I'm doing or
to be scared off my path. Like we all have these tests
that come. And I think The thing is when
you find something that calls toyour heart and you push through
the fear, then that thing that'sin there that you're supposed to
do will will increase and manifest.
And I believe that's what happened for me as well.
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I always had, you know, intuition.
I always trusted my gut, But I trusted it more as time went and
I realized how accurate it was. And, you know, I'd kind of get
hit upside the head if I didn't follow it.
So you kind of learn from the bad and the good.
You know, it's like, oh, I should have listened to myself.
You. Know right right because there
is yes yes the more I'm beginning to the more I'm living
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the more I'm realizing I think there is a divine blueprint that
we are being guided to follow and of course there's free will
you know but. That's important.
Yeah. But they're always, I think
trying to so, right, push you inthat direction.
And I think we probably agree tothis or we make our own
blueprint up before we come herein the body.
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So it's very fascinating as a teacher.
I was going to say before, did you notice that there were kids
in your class that had? Absolutely, yeah.
I can imagine sometimes a child would have an energy field
around them that I could see, like purple, and that was very
common with some of the kids that were Hindi.
So they develop a very early religious or spiritual aura
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around them that I was able to couple with my children that I
taught. Another one I taught in first
grade and she drew a picture of me on the first day of school
with a whole energy field aroundme colored in.
And at the time I had a photograph taken at an event.
And the two things matched to the to the expect that there was
an Angel behind me and rainbows shooting out of my hands after I
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had learned how to do energy healing.
And she had seen it. And she always said, oh, you
have such pretty colors. And this was a six year old who
now is probably in her 30s, probably 38 years old.
And she still is incredible intuitive.
And I ran into her recently and she remembered me and we talked
about it. And I reminded her that story
about her drawing this picture of me.
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And she goes, oh, yeah. She goes I I learned through
life, really followed my gut, really follow my intuition.
How? Really interesting to come
across her again. Very interesting, yeah.
Do you think that there are morechildren?
I'm noticing that seems like it seems like and I'm reading,
hearing that there are a lot more children coming in now with
a lot higher ability, intuitive.Abilities.
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Yes, I'm seeing that probably within the past 15 years.
Also, you'll notice there's a lot more autistic kids on the
spectrum. Those kids came in at such a
high frequency that when they dropped in, they can't jive up
the, the heavy earth energies with their own.
So sometimes those kids have very high spiritual gifts, but
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you can't see them right away. You know, those kids might
keyboard something or say something really profound.
I've done readings for a couple kids that were autistic and as
adults, they're, they're quite gifted in, in understanding the
spiritual realm. But as children they were like
bound in this heavy body and they're, they're trying to like
navigate and kind of ground themselves to it.
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So I've seen that as well. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was
wondering. We have two special needs
grandchildren and both very interesting.
I can tell the young man is who's 19 now.
I think he's going to be 20 soon.
He he definitely is sensitive. I can feel it for sure, you
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know, but you wouldn't, you know, but very low functioning
in other areas. But there's a sensitivity to him
that is far beyond his years. Yes, yes, yeah.
Interesting. Yes, very tough.
I wanted to share a story about you and about how, you know our
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early time together. When I met you, I didn't realize
that there was, you know, somebody down the road from me
that did this until I had the need, I guess, for it.
And the spirit maybe led me to you.
But my husband and I were going through a very difficult time in
our life. We had, we were building,
actually we were renovating a the oldest schoolhouse in our
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county and came up with a lot ofresistance from the area.
The neighbors got the DEP healthdepartment involved.
It was just terrible. And it was, it was an awful
thing. We wound up suing the IT was
just a big mess. Anyway, it was like 5 years,
five years, $50,000 later in credit card debt.
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I was at my wit's end and I really was, you know, I didn't
know what to do. I didn't know what to do because
my husband has he, he's very, heis a very what, what's the word
moral man. And he has a lot of, you know,
he, he really, he wants to do good.
He, he, he sees the good in people.
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He's but he has a lot of fight energy, you know, but when
something, when something is wrong, you know what?
There's a wrong being done. He's trying, he wants to write
it anyway. So that what, what's what kept
him going, But it was to our detriment at that point.
And I didn't know what to do. And I said, honey, why don't you
go see? I said there's an Angel lady
going to go down the road here. I call it the Angel leader Angel
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lady. And amazingly, he went.
And during that reading, I thinkyou said two archangels came
through and told him that if he didn't stop this, he you know,
it's, it's repeating. It was a lesson he was learning
from trying to learn from another lifetime and that if he
didn't stop, he was going to lose me and lose his life, going
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to have a heart attack or something.
And he came back from that reading and he stood in front of
me and he said, I'm going to drop the lawsuit.
And you could have knocked me with a feather because it was.
And when I say Rosemary saved mymarriage, I'm serious.
That's literally. Yeah.
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Because that was so. Yeah.
You remember that, right? It was so impacting for him,
tremendously impacting. And Rosemary and I also
recently, this past year have collaborated with the sound
therapy. We do a beautiful event where we
she does Reiki and I will do sound therapy.
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We have people lay in anti gravity chairs and it's it's
been amazing for people. I think that the combination,
you know, talking about the vibration right of the Reiki and
the sound. And if you want to speak into
that a little bit about the profundities that that is the
word right of these two modalities, the combinations.
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I think the sound is really incredible because they're,
they're, they're hearing that astheir body is reaching this
relaxed state. So what I'm doing, raking on
them, it's allowing them to be in such a state of relaxation
that their body will shift very quickly.
And we've seen this, these shifts and these movements, and
people are seeing things and they're having these great
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experiences seeing, you know, one woman tell me she saw the
virgin mother when I touched her.
That's right. Another person said that they
felt like their chest opened andthey saw a pink light and light
and pink is the color of love. And my hands were sending her
pink light to her heart center. So her she was actually
experiencing it. And the sound just really is, is
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just a beautiful experience to be in that setting with the
sound as well. And I know years ago, before you
started working with sound therapy, the angels told me to
tell you, you know, when you're reading that your path was to
work with sound healing and to shift people with this modality.
So it's very cool that it's comefull circle and we're, we're
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actually working as a team now to do this.
So. Amazing.
Amazing. Yeah.
And I wasn't even. I mean, I've, I'm a singer,
right? So I was always working with
sound of vibration, my own soundof vibration and also a voice
teacher, but not to the level that I'm doing now.
So very, very fascinating how you were hearing that earlier
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on. Yeah.
I often wonder like as far as from a frequency standpoint, you
being so sensitive to that. We are working together and
literally they're, they talk about sound now.
Sound, you know, they say sound travels in waves, but we found
out that it comes out in a big holographic bubble form is in
the middle or something like that.
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I'm probably not explaining it. Torsen field right?
Is that the Torsen field it? Can be a Taurus field?
Yes. That's the like the
electromagnetic fields of our heart brain, right?
But it comes out in this beautiful big bubble.
And so it's literally surrounding you, me and our
clients as far as you're concerned.
Do you think because that sound has it raises your vibration, Do
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you think that makes your Reiki abilities heightens it somehow?
I just think because I'm, I worka lot with clearing myself, it's
just a way that also allows thisenergy to infuse.
So I don't know, you know, it doesn't feel different to me
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when I'm doing it in my office or there.
But what's cool about it is I'm also getting this gift of
hearing you sing and the sound around me.
So to me, it's like a special gift on top of helping other
people. I'm getting this little bonus
from you because I'm in this ocean of sound just like the
other people that we're working on.
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So it helps. Fun.
Yeah, it supports you while you're doing the work.
Yeah, Yeah, it does. It's it's a it's very nice.
And I, I love, you know what I'mhearing you.
I get visions of who you're channeling that you're not
realizing channeling. They're coming in and I'm, I'm
seeing your guides come in as you're singing at the end.
And that's really cool because Iknow that what I'm experiencing
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is what you are actually singing.
And I've, you know, I, I can seeyour guides.
It's it's very neat. That's, that's an interesting
thing. I I must have agreed to have
stopped my certain abilities in this lifetime because I rely on
other people. I don't rely, but they will tell
me that are psychic like yourself that they will say, oh,
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I saw this, that and the other thing and this this guy and that
person and that spirit while youwere playing or singing and I I
haven't a clue. So it's interesting.
Yeah. I think he said something.
There was some Hawaiian. There's a Hawaiian, you see a
Polynesian guide, you have a Native American one that came in
last time, a shaman or a woman that was singing.
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I saw her with a basket. The other thing I'm thinking of
is because your sound is so heightened and your clear
audience is so heightened, that's the thing that they've
developed a lot in you. So the third eye, which is the
seeing, may not be something youchose to open in this lifetime
because it would distract you from the sound.
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So it could be that's why you'renot seeing it and it's just
really going on trust and faith that you are bringing this
energy out. Very good, very good.
And I think that's what I need too, is the faith, Rosemary,
because I still have that like many of us who are in doing this
work or, or doing any work for that matter, or just being a
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human being on the planet, we all have that self doubt of the
impostor syndrome. You know, who am I to do this?
Can I really help people with this?
And you know, I keep, I think that's what it is.
I'm, I'm trying to learn how to trust, trust my own abilities,
trust the trust the divine that's moving through me, moves
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through all of us. Yes, without.
Once you do, I think that's the block and I think once you trust
it, then more things will open. Because what happened to me when
I was channeling years ago, whenI was very, very new at it and I
didn't do for anyone else, just me, I would check all the
information, which is probably agood thing to do because, you
know, you don't just want to follow blindly, right?
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So my angels would send me a word like in Sanskrit or ancient
Greek that I don't speak. And I'd stop the reading and I'd
look it up and I'd realize it was a real word.
Or they'd give me something likethe word nadas, which I've never
heard of before. And I looked it up and it's
actually a yoga term for the naughty on the OR like a, like a
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blockage in one of the chakras. I didn't know that.
So like I realized that what they're doing is I'm really
getting information, real information.
And then when I was all done, they'd go, are you done wasting
our time? Let's get back to our work.
But I knew they did, they did, they had to do it for me because
again, they knew that I would question.
So way back in 93, I've learned that what they're telling me is
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real. And I've done so many readings
for people and it's been proven through their experience and
through things about them that Iknow it was authentic.
Like, you know, the person that was afraid of lions, that was a,
a, a sacrifice, you know, in Roman times.
And then she wouldn't go to the zoo 'cause she was terrified of
lions. So after my reading with her,
she realized that this was an old fear from Roman days, had
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nothing to do with now, you know, So that those kind of
things proved to me that the information that comes in is, is
really from from them. And I so I don't question
anymore. I just know to go with it and
just have faith that whatever itis, it is and the person will
get it. Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting when you can corroborate.
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Yes, your, your readings and your intuitive, your intuition,
your intuitive findings. Yeah, that whole thing about
past lives, that's incredible tome.
It's so not what in our learningculture, in our culture and but,
but so many times like people will have like scars, right?
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They'll have like scars on theirbody somewhere or a mark.
And then they find out later through a reading that they got
speared or something, you know, in another lifetime.
And it just makes sense. And I have a.
Cool story about that. One of my clients came to me and
I didn't realize this, but when I did the reading for her, I
found out that she, you know, she had done the Sundance, which
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is the Native American thing thing as a male.
And they, you know, they grab your skin and you're in the sun
for hours and then your skin rips.
And then there was like a sign on her.
It was a circle and it had a cross through it like a Native
American sign, right? I didn't know this when I
channeled for her after I had told her, you know, you were a
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Native American. You had done the Sundance.
You were marked with the sign ofyour people.
And I drew it on paper and I showed it to her.
She opened up her shirt and she was born with a scar.
It was a circle with a square init, and it was right on her
chest. I you know, I didn't know that
before. You didn't know it.
No, and that was what that another like for me that's like,
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you know, a heads up, like look,you know, we're we're really
telling you this stuff. Other strange things.
I had a woman that she came to me with like long sleeves on and
pants and I was doing Reiki on her and I'm seeing a crossbow,
I'm seeing a leather outfit. I'm seeing her as male and then
I'm seeing roses go up in Arbor,right?
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So I asked her after I said, listen, I'm getting all these
visions of you. What's up with this?
Well, her hobby was crossbow. She loved dressing with leather,
a leather vest. When she did her crossbow stuff,
she pulled up her arms and therewas tattoos of roses all the way
up both of her arms. And I'm like, I can't make that
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off, you know? You can't make it my brain I.
Can't. It came in my brain and I and I,
I was confident enough to share it, even though it sounded
bizarre to me. But she was saying, oh, yeah, I
love the crossbow. That's one of my hobbies.
I love medieval festivals and she's going on and on.
But it was exactly what I was seeing.
So in this lifetime, she was walking through what she loved
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from a past, from the past lifetime that she had here.
You know, I thought that was really neat.
Yeah, I know, right? You've gotten so much proof, I
mean so much over the years. My God, I didn't get it when I
needed it though, Ruth in the very beginning, it was like,
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just keep going and the proof will come after you don't need
it. And that's the part that's
frustrating because when you really need it, you're not
getting it. It's after you finally say, OK,
I get it. So many coincidences.
This must be real. Then I started getting proof
like when I don't need it anymore.
I think you have to surrender. Yes.
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You know, we just, I just did another another interview with
somebody and we were talking about Wayne Dyer's quote.
You'll see it when you believe it.
That's. Absolutely true.
Not the other way around. Not the other way around.
It's you have to surrender to faith.
You're surrendering. And it's, there's always that I,
I guess it's the ego, you know, always wants us is kind of
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protecting itself. Maybe because if we, if we
surrender, we're what are we surrendering?
We're surrendering our idea of ourselves.
Yeah. Absolutely life, what we're
doing here and that has to say, talk about the death of the ego.
And that's, you know, I love my,the shaman's death.
Yes, I love my ego, but it it can't it, it doesn't define me.
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You know, I don't the ego needs to learn what, what it is or
what you know, what, what it is.Is it really?
And it's I think it's an overlaywhen we come here in this
healthy, right? Does that make sense?
What they told me is that each experience you choose a
personality, therefore your ego,right?
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You have a different body that your soul is poured into and you
have your blueprint, which helpsyou navigate through life.
Then if I go and I come back again, I might choose a
different body and a different personality.
Because with each personality, you experience what that
person's perception is. So your perception will change
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with the body, the person that you choose.
And the idea is to meld the personality, your ego, with
spiritual understanding. And when these two things are In
Sync with each other, you're able to more clearly not let the
ego define you. It's more like this is my choice
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to surrender, to learn and perceive from a different point
of view. And it's usually a higher
vibration point of view than my daily concerns of, oh, is my
hair nice? You know, what does my face look
like today? And you know, it, it's it moves
us away from from over concern with us and more concern with
opening to this light that we can share.
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So it's a little different perception.
It's nice when her hair looks nice, you know?
Yeah, Rosemary and I were just talking about a sale at Macy's
before. Yes, yes, absolutely.
You know, I mean, because yeah, I'm a girly girl and I love to
shop and I love to play around with my hair and makeup and all
that stuff. And isn't there a certain, I
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mean, we're here on what are we here on earth for?
Are we here on earth to be, you know, completely spiritual and,
you know, completely simple and aesthetic and and, you know, I
mean, I think that's brings me joy for.
Some people but right it's. Fun.
It's joyful. It's joyful to create who you
are. It's joyful to, you know, look
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your best if it makes you feel good and you're able to go out
in the world feeling like, you know, like a power, a power
goddess, right? So that's perfectly fine.
I think right now we're seeing in the culture, the younger
people are so obsessed with perfection of what they look
like, that that's the thing thatinterferes.
Like they're pumping their lips and they're 20 years old, You
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know, they're doing this. They're doing that when they're
perfectly beautiful the way theyare, and they don't need to
believe that they're not how they should be.
And I think that's the danger. I think when someone's overly
obsessed with that, it, it interferes.
And nothing wrong with looking good, right?
But I think the culture is teaching these young people that
they're not good enough unless they have a certain amount of
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views, unless their hair's a certain way and their lips look
a certain way or their boobs aregigantic.
You know, it's just they're getting the wrong message about
who they are. So I think that's really
important to help who you are, you know, and your inner self
and your authentic self, along with, you know, going out in the
world and being you, you know. Totally totally couldn't agree
more about that. I'm, I'm always amazed when I
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see the the social media ads for, you know, wrinkles.
And these girls are like you say, they're in their 20s or
they're, they're, they're terrified of turning 30.
Yeah, turning 30 to 30. Your.
Goodness, you're a baby at 30. That's what you.
I mean, you're beautiful at any age really.
And wrinkles. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a,
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it's not a, a, an empowering message.
And I do believe that the socialmedia, unfortunately, or our,
our, our desire to be loved and liked is, is really, it's, it's
being hijacked by social media because we, yeah, because people
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are looking so much outside of themselves for that information
and that right. And thinking, especially if
you're young and you haven't hadenough time, like to really, you
know, get a sense of yourself, you will, you know, you're
giving into that, that insecurity, you know, of, of not
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of, of not looking like everybody else looks.
And that's right being like, like everybody else.
And this one has more likes thanme and I.
Know it's kind of dangerous because these young people are
getting a, a message that, that they are lacking in some way,
when in instead they should be getting the message, you know,
grow who you are inside and, and, and harness your gifts and
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love who you are as a person andbegin to deepen that.
And once should do. It's like you, you, you know, I
don't have to ask 99 different people what I should do with my
life because my core of who I amis developed.
And I think that's the thing. These young people are kind of
missing that development of who you are and, and just even being
able to navigate problems in your life.
I think, you know, if you coddlepeople too much and they never
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go through a difficulty, they don't know how to fare as an
adult. And that's what we're seeing
with a lot of these over over parented young adults.
You know, they've been Molly coddled, as they, as they say,
and they, they don't know how tomake a decision or, or how to
stand their ground. They just cave and and that's
really sad. Yeah, helicopter parenting,
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yeah, I see it a lot. And people, yeah, yeah, I, I
think that developed after 911. I thought I, I, I almost seem
like the, the people that were children in that period who grew
up and had kids, I think there was a lot of fear and I think it
developed. It just that that just seemed
like that developed more. Yeah, 'cause I mean, my God, the
(35:42):
stuff that we used to do when wewere kids.
Oh, I know. Be like our parents would would
have been called up on child abuse charges.
Oh yeah, yeah, Now you. Know we're out in the morning at
at sun up and we'd come home fordinner and we'd be out at day
and we'd be out the at the lake or at the beach.
We'd be sat in BBQ fires and cooking food.
(36:04):
You know, it's like any of the stuff you can't do now.
And I think, you know, I always say that we were probably the
last free generation, you know, we, we had more freedoms.
It was a little safer in the world maybe.
But we also trusted, you know, we trusted our ourselves to make
decisions. Our parents never involve
themselves in spats between a friend.
That was not done, you know, go figure it out.
(36:25):
Go talk to your friend, figure it out, you know, and they
wouldn't be bothered stepping inand trying to call the parent
and say, oh, your your daughter called my daughter and ninny,
you know, that never happened. That never happened.
We were kids, you know? Your parents would just know
that, you know, take care of it.Your friendship, you know.
Absolutely. You do you.
Yeah, I remember with my little brother had he was much, he was
(36:46):
pretty small. He didn't get big until he got
older and he had asthma. And you know, we'd walked,
walked to school together on across the very busy overpass
highway. But there was this guy, a bully
named Jay Conroy. I'm going to say your name Jay,
because I forgive you. I do.
I do forgive you. But he used to beat up on my
little brother. And one time I remember he had a
(37:08):
my he's this guy was huge and hehad my brother underneath him,
you know, beating on him and my brother's.
I jumped on that guy's back and I started beating the crap out
of him. I did.
I was like, you know, Can you imagine today?
I don't know, it's just but my mother, we told, I don't even
think we even told my my parentsthat I just took care of it.
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Yes, yeah, I, I don't know. It's, it's a whole different
world now. That's all I can say.
And you know, I, I understand, you know, people are growing up
with different, different valuesand ways they do things.
So yes, you know, there is a change and we're we're, we're
seeing it. And, you know, I think these
people as they, I think life experience will help to kind of,
(37:54):
you know, smooth that out a little bit and maybe give them
some awareness as they get older.
But it's interesting to me how the vibration generally, the
frequency of our abilities and the world and the earth and
humanity is raising at the same time.
There's all this underlying, yeah, yeah.
It's like this dichotomy of of the the, the, the light in the
(38:17):
dark. I guess the duality right They.
Tell you, yeah, the angels, I channeled it from the angels
probably a good 15 years ago. They said there's going to be an
overhaul and a pull between light and darkness.
They also told me about a worldwide situation that we
would all walk through and the light workers would have to keep
people positive because it wouldbe something that would affect
the world. And I couldn't imagine what it
(38:39):
was. But when COVID happened, I'm
like, oh, that's what it was. You know, people would die, but
other people that would, would be on a path would, would
sustain and be OK. So I don't know.
But yeah, power of light in darkness.
And I think we sing a lot. It plays out in the news and it
plays out what you listen to. And, you know, so we say turn
off the negative and just focus on where you are right now in
(39:01):
the world and do your best to towork to bring light to that
'cause that will eventually, I guess, spread to other people.
Beautiful. Let's hope that that's that's
the thing that happens. Pray yes, yes.
And set our intention for that. Yes.
I think that's very powerful. When two or more are gathered in
prayer, Power of the power of prayer, the power of our
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intention is huge. So I think that's a beautiful
segue into a channeling if you would like to share that with us
and you were going to look at your car.
And what? Yeah.
So usually when I channel, you know, I pray for a person I'm
channeling for and I, I get a message.
So the main message that I got today was basically to step into
(39:48):
light and to not focus on anything that's negative or low
vibration. And the more people that do
that, the higher mind will become.
It's kind of like the 100th monkey, you know, you get 100
people doing one thing and then then something will shift.
So what we're trying to do is shift the vibration over our
country, shift the vibration in our immediate surroundings.
(40:11):
And the couple cards I pulled today, these are cards I've had
for 30 years. First one was support.
So that is support in positive like minded.
Groups and those are people thatare looking for higher mind.
The second one I got is to understand that divine timing
happens at the moment when it iscorrect.
(40:32):
So even if you want something tohappen today, it does not
necessarily mean it will happen.It'll happen when all the
conditions are right for everyone that is in that
situation. So it's the like, kind of like
the highest good for all people that are in that situation.
Harmony would be the gift because when you are using
(40:54):
higher mind, it creates A harmonious setting.
They'll never be backbiting. They'll never be people
bullying, calling names to otherpeople.
That is low vibration energy. High vibration energy supports
each other for the highest good of all.
And the last one is playfulness.And that card just reminds us to
(41:16):
have time to enjoy yourself, to do things you love to do.
Because part of being in a high vibration state is enjoying
laughter, is enjoying people youlove, is getting out in nature,
you know, so the vibration can increase when you focus your
intention on raising it for you and for people around you.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, no, Beautiful, beautiful.
(41:43):
Yeah, there's some trying to getback this speaker view.
There we go. Well then again, this is.
I'm seeing you. I don't know.
I'm seeing you. OK, good.
Well, I'm just that's OK, That'sfine.
Yeah, I, I'm trying to do my little thing here.
I'm I can cut this out. So here we are.
There's that Now I'm I'm trying show grid view.
(42:07):
Why did they change this stuff? I know I I don't like what they
did with the zoom. No, I don't.
I don't. Kind of confusing.
It is confusing. I can't even.
I'm going to say escape. OK, there's escape.
That's not what I wanted. View gallery.
OK, now. Oh.
OK, now I just lost you. Oh, I'm going to full.
(42:28):
Yeah, I should be back now. OK, Am I back?
Yes, you're back. Well, you didn't.
You didn't get lost. OK, there I am.
All right, so here we are. Yeah, I think there were.
So what were the things you werethat could the card, the second
card, what was that? That was.
So it was support. Yeah, there we go.
(42:49):
Divine timing. That was a second one.
So divine timing means the righttime for something to happen
cannot be forced by our will. It it's when it's the right time
for all of the people. Involved.
Yeah, I think like the big card,yeah, the divine timing I think
is a lot of people are going when's, when's things going to
happen? When, when are things going to
be changing? Everybody's getting impatient or
(43:10):
there's a general feeling of that.
But it has there has to be like,enjoy the journey, you know, and
not force. That's right.
And a lot of times we want our will to force something before
it's ready. So it's kind of like when you're
baking bread and you're and you want to take it out of the oven
too soon. It's like a big slimy mess.
You have to wait for the timing to be correct.
So it's fully baked and a lot ofright now there's a lot of not
(43:33):
baked energy around. So we're waiting for everything
to kind of settle in and bake. So the gift of it is harmony.
And harmony is a word that stands for, you know, which is
great music, musical thing here.Just what when things are a
harmonious mix and they're not discordant.
Right now we have discordant energy on earth.
(43:55):
Harmonizing is the music of the spheres is the music of all
nature is it's in our bodies, it's everywhere.
So the harmony can result from vibrations that are In Sync with
each other and that's what we want to do.
So I always say surround yourself with energies that are
In Sync with you as well. So if you have a friend or
(44:17):
people in your life that are very negative in their
vibration, you want to limit your connections or your time
and surround yourself with like minded high vibration people.
And that helps us to raise the vibration of low vibration
people to a greater degree. Yeah, and definitely playing
playfulness. Yes, don't don't take to.
(44:38):
Play. Don't take it so seriously,
right? That's my thing.
Don't you know, enjoy play, havejoy, cultivate the joy.
And I think that that doing these modalities like Reiki and
sound therapy and meditation, yoga, anything, you know, like
that can really help us all. Slavery.
(45:02):
To be more aware of how we are moving through our own life.
Are we reacting to outside, you know, influences or are we, are
we going inward and then responding to them?
You know, there's a, there's a feeling of, of being here
(45:23):
centered here rather than alwaysout here because that creates
chaos. And and you could never like all
those they people. You could never make all those
they people happy. And a lot of people live their
life with the they they they want.
What do they think? What do they want?
What are they thinking of me? And really, people are so wound
(45:45):
up in themselves, they're just thinking of them.
So you have to go into your center and feel the vibration of
does this decision feel right? Is this right for me?
You know, what is my next step? Instead of going over there and
wondering what they're thinking of you because you'll never
satisfy those people because those people are always other
people, right? So it's all about finding your
(46:07):
center. Right.
And self love going in inward toyourself.
Yeah, which is not an ease. As I said before.
I think that that comes with a certain sense of life experience
and wisdom. Yeah.
I mean it. You couldn't have told me this
stuff at 20, you know? Yeah, to an extent, maybe, you
(46:30):
know? Yeah.
Yeah. When we come to it, When we come
to it, right? Yes, it has been an honor having
you on today and I so appreciateyou and the work that you are
doing in the world. Thank you so much and I
appreciate spending this time with you and I love what you do
and I hope people partake in both what we, what you do and
(46:52):
what I do for our businesses. And and you know, we're, we're
out to, to bring light into the world.
And to help and you do work virtually, I believe you said.
Yeah, I meet with people on Zoomfor transformational talk
session, long distance or a key workshops.
And I have a lot of workshops. There's a free one called Dip
Your Toe In, which is on my website, rosemaryd.com.
(47:17):
I have some chapters of my book and if you go to my website,
you'll see all my books, excuse me, on my other website called
Grow Your Spirit. And also I have a podcast every
Tuesday at 10 on Bull Brave TV. OK, just call.
Yeah, No take. Take your time.
Just stop and let's do that again.
(47:40):
Just stop. Just wait.
This way we're fine. No rush.
I can I can cut, edit any of this.
I can make it. Look real pretty.
Oh, that's good. OK yeah.
So my I have a podcast called the light walkers path Grow your
spirit with Rosemary. It's on Bold Brave TV every
Tuesday at 10 Eastern. You if you can't find the link,
(48:02):
you can go to my website, rosemaryd.com and you'll you'll
see the directions for how to find it.
But it'll stream the live on allthe platforms, you know,
YouTube, etcetera. You can call in when it's live,
you can text, text or ask a question, or you can view it
later in my archive on Bull Brief TV or on my website.
(48:23):
I do include our videos and I know I did one with you, Ruth,
which is there also. Yeah.
So I have very fascinating guests and I also instruct on
there some weeks on my own. Very good, and you also have
your books, so I'll be putting links to all this down in the.
Description. Thank you.
Rosemary's website and books andeverything.
(48:44):
And what else can we say about Rosemary?
You do. I think you said you have a
couple freebies on your website.Too, I do, I do, I have they
can. So a couple things.
The workshop in the self study area called dip Your toe in is a
free workshop and and that's allyou know, you can do that at
your leisure. I have other ones there as well.
(49:06):
I have one on crystals and be your Own superhero.
There's a whole bunch of different ones there.
I also have live workshops in New Jersey at my Home Office,
and some of these I also provideon Zoom Live.
So you know, if you join my mailing list or contact me, you
can be on the list and you'll know what's coming up.
(49:26):
So that's there too. You can see my gifts.
I have two chapters you can download for one of my books, so
if you go to Grateful Giveaways on my website you can find the
free stuff, including a video there.
You can watch it and enjoy it. Wonderful.
Yeah, Rosemary. Rosemary and I both are what?
(49:47):
What, what? What do we call ourselves?
Movers and shakers. Movers and shakers and over.
Yeah, over and Chambers. Over achievers, workaholics.
And then I see some other peoplewho are like, but 10 times what
I'm doing, and it's like, how doyou do this?
I can barely keep things, no. Just what I'm doing is what I
(50:07):
want to do. So I give myself time to have
fun between have a rest day because you, if you overdo what
you're doing, you're going to burn yourself out.
So one of the things that I've learned and that I'm deciding to
do at my age is I have to do self-care.
I book, you know, a day here andthere for nobody, you know,
except for me and my family. So you know I work.
(50:29):
That into yeah, it's important, crucial for you, especially if
you're doing energy work. Yeah, wonderful.
Yeah. Well, again, it was such a
pleasure to talk to you and to hear all your amazing stories
and just the to open us up. Every time I think we hear
(50:51):
things like this, it opens up. It, it, it, it, it breaks
through a little bit of that disbelief and it opens us up to
the amazing, amazing world that we truly live in and are part
of. And I think our interdimensional
nature as well, I believe that we really are that and it's
(51:14):
coming so excited. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Ruth. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for today. You bet.
Thank you much love. Bye.
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