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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Presenting Orson Wells as the Third Man, The lives of
Harry Lyme the fabulous stories of the immortal character originally
created in the motion picture The Third Man with Zipper
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music by Anaton Kerra.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You come in the theater just as the curtains dona
the dance playing something exciting Latin Americans. The stage is
alive with color and dancing against the background of the
marketplace in Central Americas. Suddenly, someone of the Spanish accent
has brought us the East River. Shouts eh, Henny raw,
and everything comes to a halt. El Henny Ral sweeps in,
wearing a broad sash, handlebar mustache and a big menacing
frown that scares nobody. He mutter something about La revusion.
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A couple of shots spring out, a few chorus boys
dropped gracefully to the ground, and the entire company breaks
into the first big production number. But revolutions aren't like that.
There's no music playing, no scantilly clad dances, no comics.
The guns have real bullets in them. I know, so
I was mixed up in one of them.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'll tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And now Orson Wells as Harry Lyon The Third Man
in the third man in pursuit of a ghost.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There's no sense in identifying the Central American country where
I found myself in the fall of forty five. Any
of those who were involved in the revolution are still alive,
of course, and I've caused enough trouble anyway. I was
in a waterfront cafe in the tiny country's capital, and
there were only two of us to buy here, as
truly Harry Lyon and a derby handed little Englishman who
looked about as much at home as a burlesque queen
of the church picnic.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, how about came in a little read with me?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Thanks? I don't like drinking along either. So from how
you were in deciding to disappoint you, how.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
We don't make no difference to all that was helping.
For a word about helm, what'll.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It be getting on scotches? Have anymore? Ah?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
There? Maybe how about finding a little scotch for the
gentleman here, Scotch para el cavalierra.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
If in your scotch find not somebody gone promiss in your.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Gratias, I may go. I have I learned that linguetico.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Later you're right there, you are. I've been in this
blooming country for ten years now. There's plenty of brass here.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I't and tell you that, Joly, I've heard of the stuff,
been a long time since I've had my hands on it.
Oh down on your upper is a bit I do, thanks,
nor trouble worth it.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
So your well, here's to your increased fortune and yours.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You've been here a long time. You might be able
to stir for around a good thing.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
There's no way of making an easy living ear there ain't.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
The blinking government controls all the gambling, the lockeries, the casinos, everything,
And if the revolutions acceed, it'll be worse. Or maybe
I shouldn't have that little bit of information.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Don't go around talking. Can't be worse. Well, it's this way, Gabner.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
For a long time now, a bloat they calls general Velders.
There's been brewing us for the travel. He's a rough customer,
he is, but up till now he ain't had the
money to buy arms in ammunition and our soldiers.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I know he's got the manage that he is.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
But then from the States he's fine incing him. One
of them blokes you'll call gangsters up in the States.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You know a good thing he will, so it's technical
chance the revolution feels, I'll you're facing a firing squad.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Not bloody lightly.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He's too smart for that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
The way I is it, he comes down here, he
makes his deal with General Veldiz, and then he eye
tells it out of the country, goes to a vanna
at some place to wait it out until vell is
he's sitting in the.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Drama scene's the country, that's right, I got that, And
I suppose he sends pretty well as a revolutionist. Now,
I used to know if you guys were mixed up
on the rackets back. Let's say so, I just happened
as all the general's friends, the.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
One who's part into the river.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You haven't know his name, No that I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Down here, they just told him El Sorrow. It means
the fox and these they're all right, argue.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The way I saw it, this New York gangster wasn't
going to be the only foxy guy to make a
good thing out of the revolution. Important thing is to
make contact with General Valders first, and half a dozen
different kinds of pictures on through my mind as I
headed for his strongholds. You had a friend to Alsorrow
that's right, grad you're both on the same team. I
ain't to have a fight with you, and you're the
biggest and stormers looking for I saw outside of a
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side show you had.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
A friend of Alsao.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He told me to come down here from New York.
We were pals together back there. I guess he had
some sort of job lined up from the here. I
like to talk to General Valders about it.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
And you know what that loves well speak close friend
of all sorrow followed, Yeah, I say.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
From all this signor is friends will sorrow. He tell
him to come here.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
He told you to come here.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You were close friends in New York, I see, and
he wrote me all about you, said he thought we'd
speak the same language. We alread get acquainted.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It was quite a little while ago when I was
tied up and the letter came and I got down
here as soon as I could. You were tied up,
true to the that is. I was broken at a
hard time raising the prince the passage that I figure
there's anything I could do help. Friend of ozorrow, you're
still broke, stoney stoney old, Yeah, get two hundred dollars,
they say, give it to signor line, handy lion and
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certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
You we will not mention it. So money is very scarce.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He that just now scarce. I thought I was already
give you all the money you needed for for an
So it is to a ban is send me a
post chulture. It was forwarded here. Great guy. We do
not think he's such a great guy. What thanks?
Speaker 8 (07:10):
What's the trouble you very clever man.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
We made an agreement, perhaps one you knew about. He
was the finance half of the revolutions my compatriots rest.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, so I knew all about that.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I was to handle the fighting.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
He was to take care of the finances, the procurement
of guns and a munition.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
One million dollars that we have collected, we turn overdo
them and by money.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
He had disappeared.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So he's in a van. Well that's what I heard.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
But I will go to Abana and bring you back
what you will need. Money in your pocket, of course,
that is why we have given you part of what
little we have left. But you will not double cross us.
You will be watched every moment. Should you make one
false move, pullet be later your back.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Look. I think I always tell you something. I'm not
a friend. That is, I never met him in my life.
I don't even know what he looks like.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Your life is very common to being funny.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I never heard of this guandal. This morning, darkly I
met in a bar told me about him. The bartender
remembers a little cafe and the partied in Madrid. It said,
the roosters painted on the walls Cafil Gallo. Yeah, yes,
that was his name, just after.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
The barg to prove our famis, I will make hoose
anything quaries about the imaginary cocky when you drive you
back to your hotel. But you're not making things easier
for yourself by denying your preach for Arizora.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
When you check up on my story that I met
the I will save.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
My breads in your line was here.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
We'll drive you back to your hotel now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So you can get some breasts.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You will need it.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
When the Gargantu and Jose dropped me at the hotel,
I went in one door and after the other, and
then I hurted the railway depo about to take it
on the first train hour, which wasn't until three am.
One of a few blocks, but I saw the reassuring signs.
Before it's here, I had any love for the police,
but now they represented some protection from General Baldis. I'm
sure he was a revolutionist and outlaw thought. Gave me
a little comfort and headed into a knife across the
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street and sat down. And it's chattering cocktail drink cause
it had been there long when my eyes were suddenly
drawn through one of them. All sit down to the
beautiful woman I've ever seen. She was a tall, slender broomnette.
She was sitting alone. There was invitation in her eyes.
I armed myself with a couple of glasses of champagne,
wanted each chance walked over to the table. You know
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it's strictly against the law for beautiful women to sit
alone in our rooms without a drink.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Hm, I was waiting for a friend.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh, I'm very friendly. If I come bearying champagne. If
I sat down, would you scream for the manager?
Speaker 9 (09:40):
I would not scream very loud?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Would he's bad for my voice? Uh, you're a singer.
I knew what it was your artistic appearance that appealed me.
That's really why I made like I say, Thenard, Well.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
I would like to drink, but you look more like
a lobo to me.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Than as some dumber A lowboy is the wolf.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
In Spanish, and you don't like wolves in any language.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
No, no, I don't mind. I love long as their
claws are not too sharp. Some girls pretend they do
not like the rosy mail, but women are all complimented
by attention.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I like woods like you. I love your friend. That's
what's your name? I am Consuelo, and you Harry, to
come swelling wonder I didn't have quite so much of
my mind, right.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Oh, poor Harry, you big American business men are all
and like all the time. You must worry about money matters.
There are other things in life, and anyway worry does
no good.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, you're right all the way in the world. Can't
change the thing. Well, we'll have another drink now.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
I'm afraid to drink any more. On how you say
an empty stomach, I might lose my head.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, let's have dinners together first, and then both us
are heads.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Are you a good straord, Harry?
Speaker 8 (10:51):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (10:52):
You come with me to my little apatter Mena, and
I will cook for you a real Spanish dinner, something
you cannot get in a restaurant. It give me the
chicken and the right quite.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
N uh sounds like quite a dish grunt. Swell, I
mean I see the same feeling when you give him
the camp driver. He address thanks fell He slithered back
in the seat and melted in my hand. This was
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all of the good. But I started to ask myself
why the most beautiful woman in the world had gone
for me. Like it was a combination of Croud Gabel
and John Rockefeller, the best features of each. I opened
my aquera fella, the best features of each. I opened
my eyes, and I didn't look at one. Swell. I.
I looked at the driver in the front seat. Even
from the back. I recognized him. Driver, Al, I want
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to see what the driver looks like. Turn your face
around this way, driver, so.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
He's in your line, and you think to a live okay,
began to think.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Before you bought the ticket of the railway. Stay thinking
the oldest stars in the world.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
How no, do not let us forget our man.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I walked right up to you. Didn't even have to
wiggle your little finger. What do you say, rattle traps?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not far of this in your line.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But this is only the first thud. God you too, Vana,
still saying that if you find out at the cafe
that I was telling the truth about the cockney.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And being find it all over concerning the cockney, Vell
does it right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
There's none so bout what did he say? Can you
remember me? He remember you? Well?
Speaker 5 (12:26):
You said you'd drink this cotton.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, I drink scotch. But though you say you will get.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
All alone, you'd not talk to anyone in the cafe.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But the whole thing for dirty brain, I'm not taking it.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I'm going to Oh, you hit him so hard this
time because my fist.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Perhaps next time it will be with a bullet. You
see how he behave in a bana.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Orson Wells returns in just a moment as the third man,
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and now Orson Wells as the third Man continues with
in Pursuit of a Ghost.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Everything was black, black, and purple, the nice little polkadants
of green life. This went on for a couple of
thousand years. Then I realized I was lying down and
the bed was soft, but it kept pitching, sliding out
from under me. I could feel the front of the
ship's movement. He's waking up. You are read mm from
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why I thought you'd never would. I hate pulling a
line as old as this, But where am I.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
H We are in our way to a bass and
you're right, yeah, I guess. But but this, this ship
a private The older friend was kind enough to lend us.
We are the only passages aboard, and the crew are
all very loyal to me that you could answer what
you really want to know. You're going ashore to find
your friend to bring him and the money back here.
Jose and I will wait on the job for you.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he says a very rough, loud, compable ooh, and
so I think you will influence my friend more easily
than I.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Neither Jose nor right there show our faces ne Havana.
Were our presents known, there would ruin everything. Nasen your line.
You will do the job for us, but you will
be watched by our friends, watched every second of the time.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Look, gol Man, that's holding it pretty silly. I don't
even know the man I'm supposed to find.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Tay Prient is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We will not go into that again, all right. So
he's my pair that fell. I'm supposed to get him
to leave a vanna and come aboard this yacht. You
mind telling me how I do it. That is your problems.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
But I can tell you this, if you failed, you
will not leave past tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
By two in the afternoon, I checked in at the hotel,
and as you know, I wandered along a proud to
look at all the sidewalk tables from somebody you might
look like a resource for New York gangster. And I
consumed half a dozen dekories at Sarpy Joe's well. And
then he closer to the solution of my problem, finding
a man I didn't know, making friends with him and
persuading him to talk a million dollars in his pocket
and come about a strange yacht. But if I didn't
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get back to the yacht with him, well, there wasn't
any sense in speculating on that I had seen the
looking guard as his eyes general was playing for keeps.
I walked for endless miles. I took buses, I traveled
by camp. Finally, at three am, I landed about four
miles out of the city on a little street they
called hot Dog Alley, a sort of skid row lined
with a rumor palaces. And there at the table and
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one of the noisiest of the joints. I saw him.
I knew it was him, called and just reeking with
rotten money, also sitting beside him, holding his hand and
nuzzling up to it, and was conserver. She was looking
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straight at me, and I'm making any sign of recognition,
So I took a cue from her, pointed over the table,
ignored us, and stood looking down. Jim, Hi there, Yeah,
I thought for a minute there I recognize you. Yeah,
maybe I've seen you something like you. Happen to be
from New York the.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Way, can't you see I'm busy with a lady.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Funny, you sound like a New Yorker. Okay, so I'm
a New Yorker. That's cram anything you say el zorro Eh.
Where'd you get that name? We can talk about where
I got it if you really want to be a
little friendly.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Okay, So we'll talk.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
Only this ain't the place I'll get rid of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Meet you somewhere where we can be alone. Way you stup,
and that's you know, Go back then go to your room.
I'll call you in an hour or so.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Who do I ask for?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Heyline? You waiting for your call? All with it?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Make me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right? Dave. Now you're in comes next.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Please we have not much time.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Please do not fight with me.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
I did not know they were bad men.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They said it was some.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
Sort of a joke on you, that you were a
big business man and you were working too hard, that
they had planned for you a little vacation and you.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Did not want to go.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And then you crew down here head and he to
help me enjoy my vacation. You have to render desb
for reguard here. Jenah doesn't even know you. Hear her
checking up on Aldora and me, Oh, you fool.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
They do not know that I am held in Habana.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They double cross me.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
They do not pay me.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
So I fly down here for myself, like you say.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
On my own I want that money, los, like money's
going to be best popular thing. Am I supposed to
steal it for you?
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Listen, Harry el Doo dropped me near that he thinks
I lived about ten minutes ago. He was going back
to his hotel to call you.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's his real name. What hotels here?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
His real name is Pietro. He called him to speak.
He's staying at the La Paz and.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
He keeps the money right in his room. I know that.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So when Nicholls you get him to meet you.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Here, you keep him away from you totel for han't
hour and.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I get him une how nice?
Speaker 9 (19:09):
Then you lose him someway. You meet me at the airport,
We get a private plan and we fly to Europe,
just you and me, You and.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Me in a million bucks. And that's pretty picture, Okay, Horry?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
What is wrong?
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Why are you looking at me like that?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Don't you trust me?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Harry?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What do you think? Of course? I trusted you now
as far as I could throw the hotel, And as
you know, that's why I was a beautiful girl. But
nobody's that beautiful. I have a very good nose for
a frame up. I could smell this one a mile away.
You may think I'm fussy, but I don't like being
played for a succer twice. So I gave a ready
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time to get started, and I put in a call.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Hello, Hello, Pete, Harrylin I'm speaking one hundred thousand dollars deep.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Over a fellow Americans feed. I want to do you
a favor. I know about the million piece. I also
know the General Valdez and his boys have followed you
down here. They know where you've got the dough, Pete.
Not only that, they've got every means of escape all
corked up. You're not getting out of here, Pete, not
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without my help. And get you out of Cuba alive.
I want to pass answer o man. Let's not quibble
over money. They're getting a bargain one hundred thousand. I
step you out of Cuba into some spot where you'll
be safer. I have my own yachts and the crew
I can trust easy because I'm giving you my first
tip off for free. That girl you are with tonight,
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well man, she's one of the gangs. She's on our
way to your place. Now wait ten minutes and leave
your hotel. I'll give a chance to get in and
then go back. You will find her going through your things.
I'll give you a chance to settle things with it,
and then I'll call for you. Have you said you?
Including my hundred grands. There was a big crowd outside
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the La Pasce hotel, and every time I got there,
seems a beautiful girl had been arrested robbing a rule.
The police took her away, Bye bye. Peter was waiting
on the corner. He got my cap few minutes later
we were in the tender heading for my yachts.
Speaker 10 (21:29):
I appreciate this, Harry. There ain't many guys who do this,
not even for a hundred yeas, hey one to count
one hundred bills one, Randy.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You know that I'll check it later. That the rest
of it, and the black guy. Sure, I'd bring all
that to you. Don't worry, I'd leave it in Gilbert.
I catch you working with the food. Where do you
think you want to head South America?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I guess i'd better talk a little your cat. Yeah,
that's a good idea. Well, this is my boat. We're
pulling alongside him. Now, this is a pretty fancy boot.
I'll climb up. O man, Okay, I'll just swing yourself
over there. That's the boy's pretty nicey sip true which way?
My quarter is showing here at the bar first? What
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you say?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Okay, let's make it a quick one.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'd like to get some sleep soon as you show
me where I can flop. I'll show you what you.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
And there's another friend of yours behind you.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
General welders, you'll see your.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Oh there, he can't need to black bag our friend.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And Sarah dropped it. He won't need a million dollars
where he's going. And you've got your cabin, Harry, line
present for you.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
When we want you.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I haven't been very fond of unnecessary arguments, so I
went down to my cabin throw my pers on that bunk.
I needn Since I landed Nevana and had too much
to drink. It wasn't only the licker. I was tired too.
I didn't want to hear the anchor being raised. Engines
starting out, and then suddenly all hadies broke loose. Now
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one in the name of it, tell him food.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But I'm not I'm not one of the revolutionists, I
swear I'm but please say hey, no, no, not fire.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
He's not one of them. As you say, you're general
and the others are all dead and we can now
see to the learning of the ship.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Well, Harry live.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I hope you're proud of your.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Role and walking revolution.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You you're the cotney I'm met in the bar that
first day.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
But yes, the Copany dialect is one of my accomplishments
in Central America.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
The captain of police must have many desires of the police.
But you see, you thought you were expecting information from
me that first day. You were merely following the powers.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Of a gesture. Oh man, I don't even begin to follow.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
You followed me very well, every idea I planted in
your obviously conniving mind.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
With your help, we have recovered the money contributed by
the poor, misguided citizens of my country.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
We have raised the revolutionary leader in it.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
From a place far from these henchmen and la sorrow,
who would have been dangerous hit is nowday.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, then I'm in the clear. After all I saved
your government that you have governor.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
But then part of the money you will be permitted
to leave our country with every cent you entered with.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yes, old man, I was broken. I arrived.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Yes you see what I mean, send your life.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, yes, I begin to I just begin.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Harry Lime returns in just a moment, and very lie.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
My only comforts the cozy feel of a roll of
green Banks one hundred grand warm in my breast pocket. Sir,
And he was a smart car. But he didn't know
about that. But we do, don't we.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
In ex instinct in eu expert et into interns insist
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unn