August 8, 2025 • 58 mins
HEAR Today’s Ministry Now with Michael Molthan! Join former luxury home builder and The M2 The Rock podcast host, Michael Molthan, as he shares how his time in prison became the turning point that brought freedom, forgiveness, and healing — not just for himself, but for countless others struggling with addiction.
About M2 THE ROCK - MICHAEL MOLTHAN:
I’m Michael Molthan, host of The M2 The Rock Show—one of the fastest-growing podcasts and shows on self-improvement, mental health, addiction recovery, and spiritual transformation. I’m so grateful you’re here.I started M2 The Rock in 2017 to bring you conversations designed to make you happier, healthier, and more healed. Through raw and unfiltered discussions with experts, celebrities, thought leaders, and athletes, we uncover new perspectives on personal growth, recovery, and overcoming life’s toughest challenges.
My Story:
What sets my journey apart is that there wasn’t just one rock bottom—there were many. From being a successful luxury homebuilder to falling into addiction, homelessness, crime, and eventually 27 mugshots and prison, my life was in absolute chaos.Addiction was my temporary escape from childhood trauma, but it only led to destruction.
It wasn’t until I hit the lowest point imaginable that I finally found true freedom, redemption, and purpose. After an unexpected early release from prison in 2017, I walked 300 miles back to Dallas to turn myself in—only to be miraculously pardoned and told to “pay it forward.”And that’s exactly what I’ve been doing ever since.My MissionI believe that rock bottom is not the end—it’s a stepping stone to something greater.
My goal is to redefine what "rock bottom" means by helping others rebuild their Spirit, Mind, and Body. On M2 The Rock, I speak openly about trauma, addiction, recovery, and the power of transformation. I don’t shy away from topics like:
✅ Trauma & Addiction – Understanding the root causes
✅ Self-Sabotage & Mental Health – Breaking negative cycles
✅ Codependency & Enabling – How relationships impact recovery
✅ 12-Step Programs & Spiritual Healing – Finding true freedom
✅ Religious Trauma & Personal Growth – Healing from past wounds
"Everyone Is An Addict."
Whether it’s substances, work, validation, or negative thinking, we all have something we struggle with.
But recovery is possible, and transformation is real.
📺 Watch my story on I AM SECOND (9-Minute Film): Watch Here
📩 To book me for speaking engagements or collaborations: Email m2@m2therock.com
🔔 Join the Movement. Subscribe to M2 The Rock and start your journey of self-improvement, healing, and purpose.
🔔 Don’t forget to LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for more powerful faith-based content!
🌎 Website: https://m2therock.com/
▶️ YouTube: @MICHAELMOLTHANM2
📸 Instagram: @m2therockshow
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-m2-the-rock-show-michael-molthan--3443849/support.
About M2 THE ROCK - MICHAEL MOLTHAN:
I’m Michael Molthan, host of The M2 The Rock Show—one of the fastest-growing podcasts and shows on self-improvement, mental health, addiction recovery, and spiritual transformation. I’m so grateful you’re here.I started M2 The Rock in 2017 to bring you conversations designed to make you happier, healthier, and more healed. Through raw and unfiltered discussions with experts, celebrities, thought leaders, and athletes, we uncover new perspectives on personal growth, recovery, and overcoming life’s toughest challenges.
My Story:
What sets my journey apart is that there wasn’t just one rock bottom—there were many. From being a successful luxury homebuilder to falling into addiction, homelessness, crime, and eventually 27 mugshots and prison, my life was in absolute chaos.Addiction was my temporary escape from childhood trauma, but it only led to destruction.
It wasn’t until I hit the lowest point imaginable that I finally found true freedom, redemption, and purpose. After an unexpected early release from prison in 2017, I walked 300 miles back to Dallas to turn myself in—only to be miraculously pardoned and told to “pay it forward.”And that’s exactly what I’ve been doing ever since.My MissionI believe that rock bottom is not the end—it’s a stepping stone to something greater.
My goal is to redefine what "rock bottom" means by helping others rebuild their Spirit, Mind, and Body. On M2 The Rock, I speak openly about trauma, addiction, recovery, and the power of transformation. I don’t shy away from topics like:
✅ Trauma & Addiction – Understanding the root causes
✅ Self-Sabotage & Mental Health – Breaking negative cycles
✅ Codependency & Enabling – How relationships impact recovery
✅ 12-Step Programs & Spiritual Healing – Finding true freedom
✅ Religious Trauma & Personal Growth – Healing from past wounds
"Everyone Is An Addict."
Whether it’s substances, work, validation, or negative thinking, we all have something we struggle with.
But recovery is possible, and transformation is real.
📺 Watch my story on I AM SECOND (9-Minute Film): Watch Here
📩 To book me for speaking engagements or collaborations: Email m2@m2therock.com
🔔 Join the Movement. Subscribe to M2 The Rock and start your journey of self-improvement, healing, and purpose.
🔔 Don’t forget to LIKE & SUBSCRIBE for more powerful faith-based content!
🌎 Website: https://m2therock.com/
▶️ YouTube: @MICHAELMOLTHANM2
📸 Instagram: @m2therockshow
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-m2-the-rock-show-michael-molthan--3443849/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Welcome to ministry now where the God who breaks chains
is with us in the house, and of course with
me is the person I adore, is my lovely bride.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know, he is the God that breaks, He's a
chain breaker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I love that song.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's the chain breaker.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
And today we really want to talk about have a
great testimony, amazing testimony. But those of you that may
be struggling with addictions, or you have a family member
that's struggling with addictions, we want you to call and
we want.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To pray for that especially of course we pray for.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Everything right absolutely, if you had a relationship issue, financial health,
whatever is on your heart, give us a call one
eight hundred and three two nine zero zero, two nights.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But seriously, if you have a.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Grandchild, or you have a niece, or you have a
family member or even a mom or dad who's struggling
with some type of addiction, we want you to call
and we won't agree with you that that chain will
be broken in the name of Jesus and they will
be returned to their same mind.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, you know, on the surface, our guest today had
it all. He was born into a wealthy family, he
was caddying on the PGA Golf Tour, tremendous success in
real estate, but that picture perfect life hit some deep
childhood wounds which no drug.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Or alcohol could alleviate.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So our guest, Michael Moultan is here to share how
his true freedom was found in the confines of a
prison sale, along with the birth of a ministry to
broken men desperate for hope and healing. So he's here
to share. He was on your program earlier. Great testimony.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, great testimony.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm excited to our audience to meet him, but not
just him, but the freedom that God has given him
to share with others.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You're gonna be really inspired.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, Well, Rebecca and Jonathan haven't been here this week.
They are actually in California visiting family. I got that
picture today and they're having fun. You know, his grandmother
is still alive, Jonathan's grandmother. His grandfather's gone on to
be with the Lord, but hadn't gotten to meet little Ellie.
(02:38):
Of course, she's got her head turned there. Rebecca's holding her,
but Ellianna and there's Bow in the middle, and there's
Asher and so they're there in the San Francisco Bay area.
That's where his family is from. And so they'll be
back next week. But they're having a good time. Rachel
and Josh. That looked like a good tom on the water?
(03:00):
There didn't that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Did? I wish we were by the water? How do
I get on that trip? There's no water. There's no
water around Texas? Is there? For sure? We have there
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We We have a lot of lakes in Texas and
a lot of moscitoes at this time of year. Noah
was playing outside and he said, muster must That's how
he says moscado.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Working on his words, they're not quite there yet. But
I am super busy this week. It is the first
like start of school next week, and Judah is going
to like big boys school, and I just I don't
know why I should be so happy, but I am
just so sad.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, I'm so happy.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
I can't wait for this.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
This is going to be fantastic.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
Did you have.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
These feelings mom when we went to school?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah? I think you always do.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Actually, moms always do.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, And dads are like, yeah, they're growing up, yes,
go for it, son, you know, And Mom's like, oh
my little boys, qul went up. It's so hard for me,
it's just I think it's a gender thing, and you
can you can email us and tell that when it is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But I think it's a gender I don't know, but
yeah it was.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think it especially well. And he's just going into
like pre.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
K jus he very soon, so he could go to kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But we just made the decision.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
We had to decide, you know, whether he was going
to be the oldest or the youngest, and we decided
to hold him back and let him do PREQ.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Not holding him back, we letting him have an extra
year of pottying school, an.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Extra year with us.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That is how it was sold to me.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yes, you mean I get an extra year with him,
sign me up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So he's so smart.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
He's so smart. And that was like the struggle of like,
I know he's ready, but anyways, hopefully that's.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
There, Johnny, Doctor Doug, you think rich would be used
to this because when he was two and a half,
we gave him a choice, do you want to go
to preschool do you want to stay at high and
he said school and so he's been at school since
he was two.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
In a hot rolling, Josh, this goes all the way
to college. Women grieve for twenty years. It's just a thing.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Anyways, Doctor Doug, you k need to write a book
about this because we're going.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Through deep praying for all the mama's hearts out there
because it is this season where all the kids are
going back to school.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
All right, Well, we have view of feedback, Darling, would
you like to stop I.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
This is really sweet. This is Debbie from Texas and
she said, I lost my husband in Hawaii on April first,
twenty twenty five. I reached out for prayer and day
Star without even knowing me, provided comfort and care when
I had absolutely no one. I always look forward to
watching Joni and her friends on Joni's Table Talk, and
I will continue to support this ministry which has changed
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my life.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And we just want to remind everyone that toll free
number on the screen one night, one hundred three two
nine zero zero two one. That's for you, so you
can call in and pray, just like Debbie did when
she was going through a hot time in Hawaii. Well,
I've got Sean from Canada saying my Bible and journal
arrived today that I ordered from day Star. The Bible
(06:08):
featured more than I expected beautifully put together, including red
lettering throughout the New Testament for easy reference of Jesus'
words and even a concordance in the back. Absolutely wonderful,
looking forward to using it. Thank you so much, day Star. Well,
thank you Sean, and hello to everybody watching in Canada.
(06:28):
We love to hear from you and of course everybody
else around the world. I just go to Daystar dot com,
click on comments and we'd love to hear from you.
Back to you, Joni and doctor Doug.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
All right, all right, well, I think we have a
little update and just want to show you just how
much your support continues to be felt across Israel.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You are helping us empower everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There to show the love of Jesus to organizations like
Joseph Project. Of course, it focused on emergency preparedness to
us in crisis situations, which is saving lives when people
are the most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
This is what you're doing, day Star partners, take a look.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Emergency preparedness is the heart of Joseph Project and how
we appreciate our firm partnership.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Today a young group of.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Israeli young adults are helping us pack up hundreds of
emergency medical bags. This vision was prepared for cases of
mass injuries and lo and behold we are dealing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
With such days these days.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
How much we appreciate the partnership.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This is a great day for Israel. The battle goes on.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
But I tell you what, the same way that Israel
fights for her promises in God, so are you at
home for yourself, for your household, for your church, for
your nation. All of us are fighting to assume God's promises.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So thank you for your partnership. This is a great
day to be together. Amen.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And we just came back from Israel and the people
that really do loveday Star partners. They are excited at
what you have helped. And can you imagine your apartment
building being shot up and being able to go to
a place and get an emergency kit because day Star
loves you. Well, if you want to continue to give
to Israel, polease do go to Daystar.
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Dot com slash Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We have provided so many things for their housing, helmets, socks,
I mean, clothes and blankets and food.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And you are amazing for doing that. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
If you're on the social media Facebook, go ahead and
like comments, share. If you're on YouTube, go ahead and subscribe, like, comment, share,
do you know your social media thing? In the name
of Jesus. Okay, But in a moment we'll be talking
with Michael Mufflin on finding freedom from addiction and helping
others find freedom.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But first let's do what we do. We worship the Lord,
our God.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That day star singers Joony and the band are going
to sing overflow of worship.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
We're nothing of the things that you have done.
Speaker 10 (09:19):
Foul me, where do I eat? Evenstad gave you.
Speaker 11 (09:31):
A mobbing, very simted that you were old.
Speaker 10 (09:41):
De me.
Speaker 11 (09:46):
Jesus, you're old Deen me with the mace, indeed the south.
My love you you are every thing all these lone
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and down on the floor of well, because you.
Speaker 12 (10:22):
Are alone and worth the arm, Oh you worthy arm of.
Speaker 11 (10:41):
Your the lover of mistle, the one who made me.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Oh you are my heart, these diam not.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
For your presence.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
It's my home. Jesus.
Speaker 13 (11:07):
You'll live me high, Jesus, you'll live me high.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Below my home.
Speaker 14 (11:26):
See she is show my love of you. You remy
this ah. He's gone hard is gone that hid.
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In time for sid of worry. My home she is
a side my wordy all hold the gay and do
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one s con long a word, the word worthy, God
became worthy of you will be you will be mean.
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She's a young roe. You're rody o.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
You washing me?
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Do you with your press? Love can not.
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Be level Peter same God with them from better, Oh.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
With the my heard.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Jeez is somewhere love because you lona where the yard
you were the arm.
Speaker 11 (13:55):
Because you worriedy Oh my God, you worthy up all
you loverthy die a mighty die, You already.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
Done at all, you already God, cause your wandy die
me she's a score. You're an didn't want all me?
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You washing me me, your cres taken. I'm beas c hand.
I'll never be the sick die gl Yeah of God.
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Speaker 1 (16:02):
Order Amen well, Jesus is worthy of worship.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I hope you join in when we do that and
replay and listen to it again.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, our guests went from the pinnacle of prosperity to
the rock bottom of a prison cell after his twenty
seventh arrest.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That is not a misstatement. Twenty seventh arrest.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, But it was in the valley that he discovered Jesus,
the healer and the deliverer who could mend his childhood wounds.
Here to share how he's now helping others break free
from their addictions. Please welcome our friend Michael Moultens.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Come on in. Hey, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Good seeing n Ye this year.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
All right, Wow, y'all don't play here now, what a play?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So we worship man?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
What a great feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, you know, Doug told me your story is just
incredible and I love testimonies.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Those of you watching today. We talked about at the
beginning of the program.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
If you have an addiction you're struggling with, maybe even
something privately you haven't talked.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
To anyone about.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
You really need the Lord to help you and to
be set free. Our guests is a perfect guest for
you today. But go the phone and call and get
your prairie question. We're going to have Michael to pray
at the end of the program, so let's just start
at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Talk about growing up the family. Grew up in what happened?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Well? It, you know, on paper looked good.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I grew up in a well to do family. Dad provided,
we had everything, grew up and played no Texas just
right down the road and grew up on the West
side and country clubs, and my dad was successful and.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Some more the affluent kind of bringing.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yet I always say I grew up on the wrong
side of the tracks. I had everything, but behind closed
doors there was dark secrets, and it was a very
confusing life growing up with them. There was addiction in
the household, addiction of workoholism, the absent father, and a
grandfather that was sexually abusing me kindergarten through fifth grade
(18:15):
until he passed away, this disease of alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Did anybody was this your dad's dad, This is my
mom's side.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Your mom's side, Did anybody know? Did you tell anybody?
Speaker 7 (18:25):
I didn't tell anybody. I kept it a secret.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Wow, which is really normal, Which is yeah, I've learned
that that is normally keep the secret. Sometimes I've had
clients they were sixty seven years old. I was the
first person they told. So, if you are spoken with
sexual abuse and you're keeping a secret, call let that
secret up.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But yeah, continue because that caused problems.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
It does and what it's confusion and in my story
is that his mannerisms and the way that he acted.
I was just like him. And I agree. We you know,
we had very unique handwriting, very intelligent, very charismatic, very artistic.
And my mom is the same way. And as I
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look at it through God's perspective, my mom was in
a lot of fear because she actually saw herself in me,
and she also saw her father in me. And she
would say, you know, you've got to straighten up, because
you're going to grow up to be just like him.
And that was devastating to me because they didn't know,
you know, what he was doing to me behind closed doors.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Wow, Well, so just talk about growing on up into
your teen years. What happened in your life to get
you so off track before? She had that early on,
but just the choices you continued to make.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Well, my whole life, I was seeking visible things to
try to fix my invisible problems. And that's what I
was doing.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's a good way to say, you were seeking visible
things to fix your invisible That's correct.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Wow, because there was no one. Trauma I don't suffer
with is religious trauma. I didn't grow up in the church.
I didn't grow up in this you know, hell fire
and brimstone. And so as I was growing up, that's
what I was doing, was seeking these visible things. And
so the world and the culture was defining my role
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as a man. And you know, living in the country
clubs and these men raising me, they were teaching me
about real estate, they were teaching me how to play golf,
they were teaching me how to gamble, drink, treat women,
and they were teaching me how to die.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Wow. So what happened?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
So as I continued to you know, get older. Once
I got out of high school, I went straight to
the pro Golf Tour. I was a real good golfer
growing up. I went to the Pro Golf Tour caddy
for one of the best golfers in the world, Lanny
Watkins at the time. Wow, and did that. Or I
was traveling the world and then got off the tour
in nineteen ninety five because my cocaine abuse was getting
so so how were you at that point. I was
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twenty twenty when I went onto the tour. Wow, and
so it was a rock star lifestyle, you know, and
that's just the way I thought life was. And then
when I got off the road, I got married, we
had two boys, and got into the home building industry
in the park cities in Dallas, and so I was
one of the most well known high end luxury homebuilders
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for over twenty years there. And then had a very
chaotic scene where my wife at the time had a
massive brain hemorrhage and collapsed and families came in and
there was a lot of controversy and I played a
role in it. And then I twisted off and literally
lost my mind and got my first mug shot.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Wow wow.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And so that led to multiple drinking, drug incidences, probation issues.
All of a sudden, you became friends of judges.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah right, yeah, And you know I always say that
Judge Jennifer Bennett Dallas County is my professional photographer. You know,
if she took all by twenty seven mugshots. But you know,
my very first mugshot, guys, was was I'll never forget this.
And I shared this earlier with you, doctor Doug. Is
that I didn't reach out to God. But something happened
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where I said, I'm never doing this again. I'm never drinking,
I'm never doing drugs again.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And I meant it.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I literally meant it with every ounce of blood in
my body. Because I had arrived in a place I
said I would never go, and it scared me. It
got my attention. It was a culture that I wasn't
used to. The screaming, the cackling, and it's like, what
is going on. I had no tattoos at the time,
you know, and people are the guards are calling people
by their names. It was a community and I'm like,
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what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So you jumped ahead a little bit, so you ended
up in prison.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I ended up in prison.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
So we first mug shot, I said I'm never doing
this again. I get bonded out, all right. And remember
I said I'm never doing this again, and I meant
it right. I got drunk in high that night.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Twenty six mug shots later, Wow, twenty six mug shots later,
A total of twenty seven mug shots I finally realized
that God was all I had because he was all
I needed.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But as an addict, that's one of the things that
defines addiction.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, is you make promises to self or promises to other,
your mom or grandmother, your kids, and you really mean
it right with your heart because you were at extormotional people.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yes, that's part of their they're just regulated, said, and.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So they they promised themselves and then they go back
and do it even after consequences Photograph fifteen, twenty five.
You know there's consequences and you still use. Those are
all signs that you have an addiction. So if you're
promising yourself and you can't stop, you're promising others.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And you can't stop, there's consequences and you can't stop.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Whether it's chocolate, social media, because some of our people
they're not you know, doing drugs and alcohol, but drugs, alcohol, pornography,
whatever it is, those are some symptoms.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So what exactly were you in prison for after that?
Twenty seventh?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
So it's a I love this here to begin? So
what are you in prison for?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What was a story?
Speaker 7 (23:51):
I love it? So I was a runner, I was
probation violation, never I didn't have any aggravate assault charges.
I did steal things. I wasn't not yet, not yet.
But I was in there because I wouldn't show up
for probation video. You know, you know meetings I wouldn't
show up for. My UA's were dirty.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You were just above the law.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
I was above the law. And I really thought it
was like they got bigger fish to fry. But Judge
Bennett chased me all up and down Interstate thirty five
the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
But back to addiction, which you were talking about, doctor
Doug And is that what is addiction? And that's what
I love to speak about today, is what is it?
And and I've come up with the definition of addiction
is simply this, addiction is a person, it's a place,
it's a thing. And here's the scary thing or a
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thought that has become my source. That's what addiction is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
And it's the street name for spiritual stronghold. You know
we're justifying. It's literally the street name for spiritual stronghold.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Because we go there for comfort, we go there for reassurance,
we go there for love, we go there for escaped
and that's where really the Lord wants to be that
in our life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He wants to be that place is alas.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay, So you end up in prison, and how long
were you supposed to be in there?
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So I'm in I'm in prison after my twenty seventh
monk shot, so May twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, I get apprehended.
If they would let me out the next day, I
would have gotten more drugs and alcohol. But once I
got apprehended, they put me in what's called the North
Tower at Loosteric Justice Center on the second floor rock
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and Roll, I mean it is gangster tank.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And what does your family say? In like your parents, you're.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I mean you're gone. They've completely disengaged.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And what about the people that you knew, you know
and worked with in park cities and friends, and did
everybody kind of dissipate when you got in trouble?
Speaker 7 (25:48):
You know, it's a whole different topic. I was so
good doctor, you probably touched on this too. And your
specialty is that my whole life is that I knew
a lot of people. I never let anybody close. I
never ever let anybody close, and I never had intimate relationship.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So there wasn't really like anyone to even reach out
to you when you're in the prison.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, So here you are. You're in a rough place now.
And what happened.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
I'm in a two man cell and this old man
comes into my cell and he's dragging his mad. He's
seventy five years old, he's got polio, okay, and he
comes in and I got to give him a bottom bunk.
You know, I can't. I got I gotta get the
bottom bunk.
Speaker 16 (26:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
And I'm the minority, you know, I'm the minority in
this culture. And so I am extremely, extremely, you know, quiet,
and they were so good to me. They were so
good to me. I am in a tank that everybody
in there's not going home. Nobody's going home.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So there's some serious crimes.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, they put me in the wrong tank, but God
put me in the right tank.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
So when he comes in there, they called him Oohwi
and I go, man, why they call you?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And he says man.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
When I was a kid, I used to walk up
and down the streets on Camp Wisdom over my oak
Cliff Bible fellow Tip and the girls would see me
and they say ooh we And so that was his name.
His prison name. My prison name was Rabbit. They called
me Rabbit because I couldn't sit still. So I'm pacing
in the day room and we get out of ourselves
for maybe three hours of time. And I'm pacing in
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the dayroom going one hundred miles an hour because I'm
in my head. I'm in my head, and so ooh,
he says, hey, Rabbit, look out, come here. I need
to talk to you. You're making me nervous, and you're
making everybody in here nervous. And if you don't figure
out how to do easy time, they're gonna show you
off the bone. I said, what are you talking about?
So my attorney comes to see me, my quarter pointed
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attorney for my deal, and I go see him. And
as I'm walking back into the tank, this guy is
leaving and he hands me this book. It's a white book,
boring cover, and I'm not any mood to read because
I'm still detoxing. And I go into my I just
throw it on my deal. OOHI says, hey, what's that
book set say? And I said, what says? Detours by
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Doctor Tony Evans. He goes, ooh, I love me some
doctor Tony Evans. That's a diesel. I'm like, well, who's
doctor Tony Evans And he says, oh man, he's all
this at oak Cliffe Bible Fellowship and and so I go,
well cool. I said, well, here, you can read it
if you want to. And he says, well, will you
read it to me? And I'm like, what are you
talking about? He says, I can't read, I can't write.
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He says, no one in here can blew me away,
blew me away. So I started reading it to him.
And the book Detours is about the story of Joseph,
and so I can relate to it. And it got
me out of self and I started realizing that I
became serving someone expecting you in return, which put me
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in the safest place in the world, which is right here,
right now, because that's where God's at.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Okay, so you're jumping ahead too fast.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Okay, you started reading the book, it started impacting you, Yes,
And so when was your moment that all of a
sudden you realized maybe God could help you.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
It's coming, It's coming, It's coming. So that was so
as I start reading this to him. I'm not a believer,
but I'm missed reading this to him because he asked
me to read to him, and I didn't want him
to tell like other gang bangers. Hey, I asked this
guy to read to him and he wouldn't read to me.
And they're going to, you know, put hands on me.
So as I'm reading to him, I start, you know,
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feeling different. Something's happening. On July seventh, twenty seventeen, I'm
in my top bunk and I'm becoming really curious about
this Jesus dude.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And nobody to ever really talk to you about that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
They talked to me about it, but that was hocus
pocus witchcraft because I was God. Yeah, you know, I
was God. I was like, no, I mean, why would
a God allow some man to sectually abuse me?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But the book kind of like opened your heart.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Heart, It opened my heart. It had me because I
can relate to Joseph. I can relate to the betrayal
and the abandonment. And UI was questioning. He's like going, hey, man,
get this Bible and tell me who Paul is. He's
like asking me the questions. I don't know who he is.
I don't know what find him. I have to go
to the back and like, look up, Paul, you know,
and so it was like a study to me. So
UI was like a real blessing guy was working through
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OUI to help me. And so in my handwriting, and
the book detours as I'm reading it, I start reading
it to the inmates in the tank. And this tank
is growing closer and closer together. And so I become
tank boss here I am. Everybody's relying on me. Now,
the club kid. Yeah, this country club kid is now
becoming tank boss. So on July seventh, twenty seventeen, I
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remember March. I mean May twenty nine, twenty Seventeen's when
I got arrested July seven, twenty seventeen, I just said, okay, Jesus,
whoever you are. I mean, I hear about you. I mean,
you know what's going on. I mean, that was my
call to action. My chest was tight and I couldn't
so it's like a thought it was. I thought it
was medical, something was wrong. I took this deep breath
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in the top bunk and I breathed in like this,
and I breathed out. And I was never a movie
watcher because I was always working doing stuff. But I
did see the movie Green Mile. And the movie Green Mile,
it reminded me. I exhaled, and I felt all this rage, anger, resentment,
all this stuff coming out of my body, and I
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literally go like ah, and then I go.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Just like that.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
And when I did that, it was like ice water
coming into my body and.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It was love.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
It was a love I never felt before. Liquid There
you go. I like that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
The only reason I say that is because I've interviewed
other people just like you a similar experience, and that's
how they described it.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I was like, it was like it was like the
car was driving real fast. I didn't know what to
do with my hands. And so I'm looking down and go,
I love oo weed. I see guards walking around. I
love him, I love her, I love him, I love
I mean, what is happening with me right now? But
I'm holding it all inside and so I'm like reckless
And it gets gooder, Jony, it gets better, I mean
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from here. And so now I'm just digging into the word. Now,
here's this guy that has made these real estate fifteen
to ten million dollars real estate transactions. I've been borrowing
this living Recovery Bible with the twelve steps in it
from this gangbanger and I have to give it back
to them. Now was he reading it? No, The books
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in the cell were used for pillows. People would prop
their heads up so they could lay their head for pillows.
As I'm reading this, people are paying me soups, which
is a dollar to write letters for them and to
read to them. Plus they just became my friend. I
had no money on my books, which is commissary, and
they started giving me soups. I collected eleven dollars and
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I went to this black panther to do the biggest
real estate deal of my life, and I offered him
eleven dollars for that Bible and we closed the deal
and he sold it to me. So I had that.
I bought that Bible for eleven soups eleven dollars, and
I got knee deep into it in the Book of Matthew.
And that's where I started reading, was the Book of Matthew.
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And I finally went and saw the judge, Judge Bennett indicted,
and she indicted me. And I came in and I
went and saw the judge. She saw something not it's different.
She just knew. And I said, Judgementett, I don't care
what you do I don't care where you send me,
because here's the deal. I don't know why I'm doing
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the things I'm doing. And that was the true first
step of the company for me, of honesty. I don't know,
and that's what I encourage reviewers to say. I don't know.
I don't know who Jesus is help me. I don't
know how to quit drinking. I don't know how to
do drugs. I don't know how to do that. And
that's why you call the number that's on the screen,
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is to ask those questions. Just simply say you know,
at one hundred three to two nine zero zero two nine,
call that number and literally say I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
So I want to mention everyone. Of course, we have
here at Day Star Recovery for everyone. This is a
you can download it. This is for addiction. This is
thirty five years of work that Doug has done, and
this is our free gift. Believe it or not, this
is worth a lot. But this because we care so
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much about you being set free from addiction. I want
to make that available. Okay, So what did she say
and had.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You had your like real full come to Jesus moment
at that point?
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Yeah, that was, so that was after July seventh, two
thousand and so July seventh.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Is when Jesus came in.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
He came in.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You just said, Jesus, I need you.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
I just said, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I mean, my grandpa just said, God, if you're there.
He didn't know how to pray, and that just said God,
if you're there.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And that might be where you are and your story, Yeah,
you might be at the end of your rope and saying,
you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I need help. I need someone else to drive my car.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And if you're like Michael, or maybe you've walked away,
maybe you grew up in church and you're like, you know,
you're a mess.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Either way, Jesus still loves you. He's in love with you,
and you can come home right now.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's not hard.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Just say these words out loud with me, say Jesus, Jesus,
forgive me of my sins.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Forgive me of my sins.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
I repent, I repent.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I believe you died for me.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I believe you died for me.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I believe your blood paid for every mistake.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I believe your blood paid for every mistake.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I make you lord of me right now I make
you Lord of me right now in Jesus.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Name, Jesus Name.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And if you've said that prayer, we want to get
you a couple things immediately. Number one, the Gospel of
John has a QR code so that you can understand
what you're reading. And also a little book called now
What so you can walk out your Christian faith. Listen,
call one hundred and three two nine zero zero two
nights because we want to get this to you right
now or send us an email on no matter where
you are in the world, so we can get this to.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You in me immediately. Because coming home is the beginning
of a whole new story.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yes, yeah, okay, so the story's not over. The story
have some exciting things.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Oh I love it. I'm a storyteller, so this is
a great listener. So, Judge Bennett, you know when I
went and saw her, I said, I'm willing to do
I don't care how long you send me to prison.
I don't care what you do. Is I am willing
to go to any length to change because I never
ever want to feel this way again. She's like, who
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is this guy? Who is this guy? And she goes,
you know what, I've got to send you to prison,
and I'm gonna send you away for two years. And
she goes, when you get out, you come back and
see me, and I said, yes, ma'am. And so as
I left, I went back and I couldn't wait to
get back to the cell because I wanted to get
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back because every night at dinner, I would get up
and I would read UH and say prayer for it.
And I don't know how to pray.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You're doing an industry, you don't even know what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Reckless Christian. I'm the kind of guy, Oh really well,
Bible says, and I just opened the book up and
just you know, and just read something. And so I
go back and now I catch chain. And what that
means is it's time to go. It's time to go
to prison. So you literally get on the chain. You
get on the bus. And I was going to Henderson, Texas,
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which is out in East Texas, but they took me
to Central Texas for a holdover. So I'm three hundred
miles away in Central Texas. So Timeline, so you left
Uwie and all the guys left them all. I don't
know where they're at today. And they were real sad
for me to leave, and I was sad to leave.
And so remember the timeline. May twenty ninth, twenty seventeen.
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Now I'm in Central Texas. I walk into another rock
and roll tank. It's crazy, act in a fool. People
are just acting a fool in there, which means they're
just self will run. So I go in there and
I'm just mind my own business and I sit down
and get my Bible out and I'm writing something. That
guy comes up to me and he goes, hey, what's
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that say? I said, we'll read it. I just wrote it.
He says, I can't read, I can't write. I go,
I see. I said, here we go. We're going to
do it again. And we started doing it again and
started reading and writing to those guys. That tank came together. Wow,
I had a second awakening because I started doing word studies.
What's repentance, what's conviction? Forgiveness?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Like you're doing Bible school.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
I'm doing well. I tell everybody I went to seminary
for four years. The thing is I was a teacher.
Actually I wasn't the teacher. The inmates were the teachers,
and actually the Holy Spirit was the teaching yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
That's what I said, and that's the truth. And that's
where I really started understanding the Holy Spirit. But what
I had my awakening, I started talking about forgiveness. Is
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what I love to speak about is forgiveness. I read
matth six fourteen fifteen, and it said, when you forgive,
this is my translation, when you forgive the ones who
have hurt you. That's fourteen verse fifteen. Guy says, I'll
bless your game. I'll perform the supernatural. See, if I
have a resentment, it blocks me from God. But once
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that resentment is removed and I understand the role that
I play in the resentment. Wait a minute, you played
a role in your grandfather sexually abusing you. I sure do.
And the role I play in it was I chose
to hold on to the resentment, and when I let
that go, God performed the supernatural. Johnny, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Ready?
Speaker 7 (39:37):
This is October twelfth that this awakening happened.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You remember these exact dates.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
October thirteenth. The next day they come over the loud
speaker and they say, Michael Moulten Bunk and Junk, I
was the first person to stay of Texas history, you'd
be accidentally set free from prison. They open the door.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
They literally physically accidentally set free from right.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
They said it was an o out.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, so on the October twelve, you released your grandfather
and you forgave him.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
For what he did.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
God set the bond and gave Christ the key, and
Christ literally put it in the lock, turned it, opened
the door, and they physically had to push me out
of prison because I was like going, there's a mistake here.
And now I'm standing there.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You're the only person that would be saying wait, wait,
I don't think they.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Were going any want Yeah, three book and get another photo,
another bug shot. So I mean, I was trying to
get my twenty eighth mug shot and they said no,
you're out, and so I literally the gas of the
world hit me, and I said, God, what do you
want me to do? And he told me this, He says, walk,
So I walked, you know, And and so I took
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myself and walked three hundred miles back to you know,
Frank Crowley Courthouse.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
How long did it take you to do that?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
A week?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Yeah, it took me a week.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
And what did you do along the way, like stopping
it talking to God.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I mean, did you just sleep on the Yeah, I
just slept on the you know side. People will give
me water. And I'm in jeans. I'm in the clothes
that they arrested me in on May twenty nine, twenty seventeen.
So I'm in like these like dress shoes and a
NASCAR T shirt and blue jeans. Yeah, I look just look,
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I look confusing. And I'm bald, you know, because they
shave your hair off.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Okay, so you walked this three hundred miles. It takes
you a week to do it. People help you along
the way. But you had developed a close enough relationship
with the Lord where you were listening.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
To what he said.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
He told me this, He said walk, and he says,
and I said, what do you want me to do?
And you know I always hear people back in the day. Go.
The Lord spoke to me and I said, man, y'all
have mental health issues. I mean, y'all have drug problems.
Yeah I don't, yah, And I didn't know what that meant.
But the Lord spoke to me. He said walk, And
he also said this, He says, don't put my name
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in your mouth. Go show the world who I am.
Don't tell them, you go show the world.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Who I am.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, So you walk the three hundred miles to.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Wear the courthouse to turn myself in, and what happened?
So I walk in and Judge Bennett's like, I mean,
she's like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And so I walked how long had you served at
that point?
Speaker 7 (42:17):
What's that? So I have a two year sentence. I'd
always served like four or five months.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Okay, four or five months. So there you are, Judge Bennett.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
I said, you told me to come back.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
And so what'd she say?
Speaker 7 (42:30):
Well, she says, I, actually I've heard about what you've
been doing. Behind the walls. Inmates have been coming to
her saying that this manager really helped her by help
them by reading to them.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 17 (42:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That is amazing.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
She knew who it was, and she goes, I don't
want to get in the way of that. And so
she pardoned me and set me free, and she says, go,
you know, go pay it forward, and here I am today,
eight years later.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well let's talk about the addiction.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah, because you're in prison, you can't probably get drugs
and alcohol.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
I mean, but I didn't I wasn't seeking it, okay,
but you know any money either, IDUs Bible.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But what about being free from the addictions? When did
you know you were free?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Like especially like when you got out and you would
have had access and any other time you would have
gone right back to doing what you had done before.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Was it a process?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I mean sanctification is a process where people don't just overnight.
But what was that process like for you where you know,
like today you're free?
Speaker 7 (43:30):
Well, yeah, I'm free. There's no there's no mental obsession,
there's there's no physical cravings.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Did Jesus do that?
Speaker 7 (43:38):
Absolutely? Jesus does everything, you know, every everything. But here's
the thing, and I don't know. This is deep for me.
I'm never free, thank God, because if I'm completely free,
I'm an addict. I won't turn to Christ. I'll put
Christ on a shelf. You know, I may not be
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doing drugs and out alcohol, but on a daily basis,
I'll catch myself seeking visible things to try to fix
my invisible problems as a result of lack of faith
or fear. Okay, but walking with the Lord, full with
the Holy Spirit, talking to people like you, getting counsel
from people like you, I recognize it today. That's the thing.
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Before in my addiction, I didn't recognize it. It was
everybody else's fault.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I was the victim sense, And I think the way
I like to say it is, you know, I'm free
with boundaries.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Yeah like that.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Now, as long as I don't play in those yards,
I'm totally free. If I go in those yards, I
can become captive again. But with the yard that God
gave me, I'm totally free. I'm free to be who
I am, follow the Lord, do what I'm supposed to do.
And Okay, I haven't had a drink in forty years.
Oh okay, that hasn't hurt me. I haven't done drugs
in for you, that didn't hurt me. I haven't done
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pornography in forty years.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
That hasn't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Right, you know what I'm saying. So God can set
you free. Okay, we really do want you to call.
Give us your grand Shill Drew's name, give us your
children's name, give us.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Your mom and dad's name. Let us pray with you
about them today. Because addictions.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You know this, Michael, it's not just the addicts issue.
It becomes the whole families. It's a business issue, the
ministry's issue, and so please call nine zero zero to nine.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
We do want to minister to you now. Michael A.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Multen will will continue sharing on the power of God
what's happened in his life. But let's pause for a
moment and worship with Jony and the day Star singers
as they sing no fear, it's we're calling your God.
Speaker 18 (46:05):
In the middle of the bad, when if I is
home with the bird his head, I am not alone.
Speaker 8 (46:14):
In the middle of the bad. When if I is all,
when the bird his head, I will sing this song,
no bad father, no guess a ros songs in the
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getting so.
Speaker 18 (46:45):
A sound you're sumer natural. You will says, Okay, we're
calling your bird in the middle of the bad, when
the fine is all. When the bird is said, I
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am not in the middle of the bad.
Speaker 8 (47:12):
When the fine is home.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
When the bird is said, I will say this.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
All no way mad for yes, my mos, we make
songs and you no fan, I know that you love me.
Speaker 17 (47:43):
No fan you get anything, you'll spear it, no fa
the love that song for sinking and now be shaken.
Speaker 8 (47:54):
No man, no fan.
Speaker 15 (48:00):
With me.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
N you can't.
Speaker 8 (48:04):
Adspear it no you sake it be shaken you sugar, you.
Speaker 12 (48:20):
Go a sound.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
You're super you names says o. Guys were colored by Kaup.
You'll go a sound, You're super natural.
Speaker 17 (48:44):
You love names us says ogus were colored.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
Who.
Speaker 15 (48:56):
So we continue our conversation with Michael Molfin next. Behind
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Speaker 1 (50:23):
A man.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Well, there is no fear.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
That's a great song, baby, and listen. Today is a
day for.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Freedom for so many people. We know the phones are
they're just lit up. Please keep calling.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
For the one you love. Nine zero zero too night.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
I wanted to mention also that those of you that watch,
especially here in America, are on like a one hundred
and fourteen million homes in America and TV one hundred
TV stations in every outlet you can think of. But
if you have connections to prisons in your area, you
know someone who does call that number and let us know,
because we're working to get on every prison in America.
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And of course, Michael, with you here, that would be
near and dear to your heart as well.
Speaker 7 (51:02):
Right absolutely, And we were talking earlier, so our show
is actually already on the tablets, so you know, whatever
we can do to help out what day started to
get you on the tablets, we're here to do that
for you.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Okay, So okay, let's continue the story then, So the
judge is set you free, and then what do you
do next?
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Because I mean, think about that's like a Jesus moment, like, yes,
you're guilty, but I forgive you.
Speaker 7 (51:29):
She did I mean that? And that wasn't I still
didn't care. I was going to turn myself in to
get rebooked in to go finish my time, So I
wasn't there. It was never even a thought that I
was going to be seven.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
But you had, you had been obedient to reach out
and touch other prisoners that were hurting. And then they're
coming back and telling her about this, so that had
an impact on her. She's like, wow, this the guy's
really made a change.
Speaker 7 (51:56):
Well, it was helping me. That was the whole deal.
Is helping others, was helping me because it was getting
me out of that. Don't preach just like this show.
I mean me being on this show, I haven't once
thought about the future or the past. It's got me
right here right now because that's where christ is.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, talk to people right now, Michael.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Just look in the camera that are struggling with addiction
and they've listened to what you had to say, and
they're like, you know, I've said it a hundred times.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'm not going to do this again. I'm not going
to make this mistake. I'm done. And then it.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Happens over and over again, and you want to know
how do I get free? I do want to mention
Doug's recovery for everyone that you've made available to our day.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Star absolutely free to push a button, put your phone
their click, and you can download it and you can
start working the principles of freedom and recovery. Really, that
retail is about eighty dollars on that, so download it.
Wherever you are in the world, so that you can
break the change in your life.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And I know you've got the book, the book and
the workbook, and there are some people that can download,
so we'll help you with that as well, but we
would brother you download, right, So anyway that's available.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
What a great blessing. Okay, So here you are, you're out.
What's what's up? What's the Lord saying? Now?
Speaker 6 (53:09):
So?
Speaker 7 (53:09):
I mean when I got when I got released. So
when I got released, I didn't know what to do,
you know, And so I went to check on my
dad who was ill. He was he was very sick.
And he says, some guy keeps calling me, and it
was a local radio personality doing a business talk show
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and looking for me. Want to interview me talk about
real estate. And so I get on this radio show
and so I'm I'm released on Friday, October thirteenth, eight
days later the following or seven days later, the following Friday,
I'm on his talk show being interviewed, and he's like,
where's Michael Boltam been, the big time homebuilder? Where have
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you been? And so I share this entire story that
I just shared with you and your viewer and.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
What is the guy doing? He's like freaking out like so, and.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
This makes perfect sense because what year was this? And
I said this was Friday? So it's like what this
was last Friday? And so the local media got a
hold of it. iHeartRadio got a hold of it. And
here I am today, just following my feet and just
doing what God said and the walk and it hadn't
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been easy.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yeah, talk to that person that I just mentioned, well,
to the one who's struggling right now and struggling with addiction.
Speaker 7 (54:32):
This may sound cliche, You're not alone, okay. Recovery is
not about getting good. Recovery is about getting well. And
the first step is I challenge you this, and it's
okay to say these three words, and that is I
don't know. Call the number on the screen and literally
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say call the number at one eight hundred three two
nine zero zero two nine. That's one eight hundred and
three to two nine zero zero two nine, and simply
say I have a problem with drugs and alcohol. Are
any addiction a visible thing that is on this planet
that has got a hold of my life And I
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don't know why I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I need help and we'll connect you Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Well, so many people, Michael, you're not maybe aware of this,
but we're literally airing in one hundred and ninety five
nations right now.
Speaker 10 (55:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Okay, and so many of them have called in and
emailed in. They're still calling in and they said, pray
for me. Okay, So here's some of some of them.
I won't just put your hand on these papers and
just pray for those that God will bring them life
and freedom.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Okay, if you can do that.
Speaker 7 (55:48):
Heavy Father, we love you so much. You are so powerful,
you are real. You're the Alpha, You're the Omega. We
asked that you just please just heal these people, give
them hope, give them breath, help them take a deep
breath in and breathe out slowly. Help them accept your
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son as the Savior. The only way to heaven is
through Jesus Christ and your name. We pray, Amen, Am, Amen, Amen, We'll.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Do continue to call. I think there's still some of
you on. Know you can't get through. The lines are jamming,
but you can also go to Daystar dot com and
click on prayer, send in your prayer request that way
as well. We pray over all those that come into
day Star again. Recovery for everyone. This is a free
download and it will take you through what Doug.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
It'll take you through how you became addicted and what
you need to do to walk out. The workbook will
walk you through that as well, and so just download
that and get that.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
But I just want to encourage you. You know, Michael,
your story.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
I mean, as hard as it was for you, it
says to us, the living God will track you down
and find you where you are, love on you, and
then ship you out. I mean you were in ministry
almost the day after you got saved because you're the
only guy who could read you know what I mean,
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and so God appointed you.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
You are now the apostle in the tank, you know,
reading the Where to God? I mean the humor of
this is a movie, you know it really.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Really or the next day after heave his grandfather.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
And supernaturally listen. There might be people that you need
to forgive.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
There might be this might inspire you to say, you
know what, maybe I'm being blocked, Maybe something is keeping
me in an unseen.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Prison, but you're holding the very key to let yourself out.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
Forgive those that have hurt you.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
And I know almost psychologists, some of those things are
deep wounds.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
You might need to do some healing as well.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
But forgiveness will release you from being limited from what
they tried to do to you.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
I know I had to do it myself.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
God is really excited about you, so you a mass
be encouraged. God sees you and he might encourage you
in some way to do something all right.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
Also, again, Recovery for Everyone, let's put that up. We
do have the book and the workbook, but you can
download it for free. Also, your book just came out,
Forgiveness for Everyone, and we have copies here at day Star.
This is a great book to read on forgiveness. Well,
thank you so much for watching. Thank you Michael, and
we'll see you next time right here on Ministry Now.
Welcome to ministry now where the God who breaks chains
is with us in the house, and of course with
me is the person I adore, is my lovely bride.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know, he is the God that breaks, He's a
chain breaker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I love that song.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's the chain breaker.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
And today we really want to talk about have a
great testimony, amazing testimony. But those of you that may
be struggling with addictions, or you have a family member
that's struggling with addictions, we want you to call and
we want.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
To pray for that especially of course we pray for.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Everything right absolutely, if you had a relationship issue, financial health,
whatever is on your heart, give us a call one
eight hundred and three two nine zero zero, two nights.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But seriously, if you have a.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Grandchild, or you have a niece, or you have a
family member or even a mom or dad who's struggling
with some type of addiction, we want you to call
and we won't agree with you that that chain will
be broken in the name of Jesus and they will
be returned to their same mind.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, you know, on the surface, our guest today had
it all. He was born into a wealthy family, he
was caddying on the PGA Golf Tour, tremendous success in
real estate, but that picture perfect life hit some deep
childhood wounds which no drug.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Or alcohol could alleviate.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So our guest, Michael Moultan is here to share how
his true freedom was found in the confines of a
prison sale, along with the birth of a ministry to
broken men desperate for hope and healing. So he's here
to share. He was on your program earlier. Great testimony.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, great testimony.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm excited to our audience to meet him, but not
just him, but the freedom that God has given him
to share with others.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You're gonna be really inspired.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, Well, Rebecca and Jonathan haven't been here this week.
They are actually in California visiting family. I got that
picture today and they're having fun. You know, his grandmother
is still alive, Jonathan's grandmother. His grandfather's gone on to
be with the Lord, but hadn't gotten to meet little Ellie.
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Of course, she's got her head turned there. Rebecca's holding her,
but Ellianna and there's Bow in the middle, and there's
Asher and so they're there in the San Francisco Bay area.
That's where his family is from. And so they'll be
back next week. But they're having a good time. Rachel
and Josh. That looked like a good tom on the water?
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There didn't that?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Did? I wish we were by the water? How do
I get on that trip? There's no water. There's no
water around Texas? Is there? For sure? We have there
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We We have a lot of lakes in Texas and
a lot of moscitoes at this time of year. Noah
was playing outside and he said, muster must That's how
he says moscado.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Working on his words, they're not quite there yet. But
I am super busy this week. It is the first
like start of school next week, and Judah is going
to like big boys school, and I just I don't
know why I should be so happy, but I am
just so sad.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, I'm so happy.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
I can't wait for this.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
This is going to be fantastic.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
Did you have.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
These feelings mom when we went to school?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah? I think you always do.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Actually, moms always do.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, And dads are like, yeah, they're growing up, yes,
go for it, son, you know, And Mom's like, oh
my little boys, qul went up. It's so hard for me,
it's just I think it's a gender thing, and you
can you can email us and tell that when it is.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But I think it's a gender I don't know, but
yeah it was.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think it especially well. And he's just going into
like pre.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
K jus he very soon, so he could go to kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But we just made the decision.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
We had to decide, you know, whether he was going
to be the oldest or the youngest, and we decided
to hold him back and let him do PREQ.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Not holding him back, we letting him have an extra
year of pottying school, an.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Extra year with us.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That is how it was sold to me.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yes, you mean I get an extra year with him,
sign me up.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So he's so smart.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
He's so smart. And that was like the struggle of like,
I know he's ready, but anyways, hopefully that's.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
There, Johnny, Doctor Doug, you think rich would be used
to this because when he was two and a half,
we gave him a choice, do you want to go
to preschool do you want to stay at high and
he said school and so he's been at school since
he was two.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
In a hot rolling, Josh, this goes all the way
to college. Women grieve for twenty years. It's just a thing.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Anyways, Doctor Doug, you k need to write a book
about this because we're going.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Through deep praying for all the mama's hearts out there
because it is this season where all the kids are
going back to school.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
All right, Well, we have view of feedback, Darling, would
you like to stop I.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
This is really sweet. This is Debbie from Texas and
she said, I lost my husband in Hawaii on April first,
twenty twenty five. I reached out for prayer and day
Star without even knowing me, provided comfort and care when
I had absolutely no one. I always look forward to
watching Joni and her friends on Joni's Table Talk, and
I will continue to support this ministry which has changed
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my life.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And we just want to remind everyone that toll free
number on the screen one night, one hundred three two
nine zero zero two one. That's for you, so you
can call in and pray, just like Debbie did when
she was going through a hot time in Hawaii. Well,
I've got Sean from Canada saying my Bible and journal
arrived today that I ordered from day Star. The Bible
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featured more than I expected beautifully put together, including red
lettering throughout the New Testament for easy reference of Jesus'
words and even a concordance in the back. Absolutely wonderful,
looking forward to using it. Thank you so much, day Star. Well,
thank you Sean, and hello to everybody watching in Canada.
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We love to hear from you and of course everybody
else around the world. I just go to Daystar dot com,
click on comments and we'd love to hear from you.
Back to you, Joni and doctor Doug.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
All right, all right, well, I think we have a
little update and just want to show you just how
much your support continues to be felt across Israel.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You are helping us empower everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
There to show the love of Jesus to organizations like
Joseph Project. Of course, it focused on emergency preparedness to
us in crisis situations, which is saving lives when people
are the most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
This is what you're doing, day Star partners, take a look.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Emergency preparedness is the heart of Joseph Project and how
we appreciate our firm partnership.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Today a young group of.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Israeli young adults are helping us pack up hundreds of
emergency medical bags. This vision was prepared for cases of
mass injuries and lo and behold we are dealing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
With such days these days.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
How much we appreciate the partnership.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This is a great day for Israel. The battle goes on.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
But I tell you what, the same way that Israel
fights for her promises in God, so are you at
home for yourself, for your household, for your church, for
your nation. All of us are fighting to assume God's promises.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So thank you for your partnership. This is a great
day to be together. Amen.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And we just came back from Israel and the people
that really do loveday Star partners. They are excited at
what you have helped. And can you imagine your apartment
building being shot up and being able to go to
a place and get an emergency kit because day Star
loves you. Well, if you want to continue to give
to Israel, polease do go to Daystar.
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Dot com slash Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We have provided so many things for their housing, helmets, socks,
I mean, clothes and blankets and food.
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And you are amazing for doing that. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
If you're on the social media Facebook, go ahead and
like comments, share. If you're on YouTube, go ahead and subscribe, like, comment, share,
do you know your social media thing? In the name
of Jesus. Okay, But in a moment we'll be talking
with Michael Mufflin on finding freedom from addiction and helping
others find freedom.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But first let's do what we do. We worship the Lord,
our God.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That day star singers Joony and the band are going
to sing overflow of worship.
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We're nothing of the things that you have done.
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Foul me, where do I eat? Evenstad gave you.
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A mobbing, very simted that you were old.
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De me.
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Jesus, you're old Deen me with the mace, indeed the south.
My love you you are every thing all these lone
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and down on the floor of well, because you.
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Are alone and worth the arm, Oh you worthy arm of.
Speaker 11 (10:41):
Your the lover of mistle, the one who made me.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Oh you are my heart, these diam not.
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For your presence.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
It's my home. Jesus.
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You'll live me high, Jesus, you'll live me high.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Below my home.
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See she is show my love of you. You remy
this ah. He's gone hard is gone that hid.
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In time for sid of worry. My home she is
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one s con long a word, the word worthy, God
became worthy of you will be you will be mean.
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You washing me?
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Do you with your press? Love can not.
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Be level Peter same God with them from better, Oh.
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With the my heard.
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Jeez is somewhere love because you lona where the yard
you were the arm.
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Because you worriedy Oh my God, you worthy up all
you loverthy die a mighty die, You already.
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Done at all, you already God, cause your wandy die
me she's a score. You're an didn't want all me?
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You washing me me, your cres taken. I'm beas c hand.
I'll never be the sick die gl Yeah of God.
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Speaker 1 (16:02):
Order Amen well, Jesus is worthy of worship.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I hope you join in when we do that and
replay and listen to it again.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, our guests went from the pinnacle of prosperity to
the rock bottom of a prison cell after his twenty
seventh arrest.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That is not a misstatement. Twenty seventh arrest.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, But it was in the valley that he discovered Jesus,
the healer and the deliverer who could mend his childhood wounds.
Here to share how he's now helping others break free
from their addictions. Please welcome our friend Michael Moultens.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Come on in. Hey, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Good seeing n Ye this year.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
All right, Wow, y'all don't play here now, what a play?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So we worship man?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
What a great feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, you know, Doug told me your story is just
incredible and I love testimonies.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Those of you watching today. We talked about at the
beginning of the program.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
If you have an addiction you're struggling with, maybe even
something privately you haven't talked.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
To anyone about.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
You really need the Lord to help you and to
be set free. Our guests is a perfect guest for
you today. But go the phone and call and get
your prairie question. We're going to have Michael to pray
at the end of the program, so let's just start
at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Talk about growing up the family. Grew up in what happened?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Well? It, you know, on paper looked good.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
You know.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I grew up in a well to do family. Dad provided,
we had everything, grew up and played no Texas just
right down the road and grew up on the West
side and country clubs, and my dad was successful and.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Some more the affluent kind of bringing.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yet I always say I grew up on the wrong
side of the tracks. I had everything, but behind closed
doors there was dark secrets, and it was a very
confusing life growing up with them. There was addiction in
the household, addiction of workoholism, the absent father, and a
grandfather that was sexually abusing me kindergarten through fifth grade
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until he passed away, this disease of alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Did anybody was this your dad's dad, This is my
mom's side.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Your mom's side, Did anybody know? Did you tell anybody?
Speaker 7 (18:25):
I didn't tell anybody. I kept it a secret.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Wow, which is really normal, Which is yeah, I've learned
that that is normally keep the secret. Sometimes I've had
clients they were sixty seven years old. I was the
first person they told. So, if you are spoken with
sexual abuse and you're keeping a secret, call let that
secret up.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But yeah, continue because that caused problems.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
It does and what it's confusion and in my story
is that his mannerisms and the way that he acted.
I was just like him. And I agree. We you know,
we had very unique handwriting, very intelligent, very charismatic, very artistic.
And my mom is the same way. And as I
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look at it through God's perspective, my mom was in
a lot of fear because she actually saw herself in me,
and she also saw her father in me. And she
would say, you know, you've got to straighten up, because
you're going to grow up to be just like him.
And that was devastating to me because they didn't know,
you know, what he was doing to me behind closed doors.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Wow, Well, so just talk about growing on up into
your teen years. What happened in your life to get
you so off track before? She had that early on,
but just the choices you continued to make.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Well, my whole life, I was seeking visible things to
try to fix my invisible problems. And that's what I
was doing.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's a good way to say, you were seeking visible
things to fix your invisible That's correct.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Wow, because there was no one. Trauma I don't suffer
with is religious trauma. I didn't grow up in the church.
I didn't grow up in this you know, hell fire
and brimstone. And so as I was growing up, that's
what I was doing, was seeking these visible things. And
so the world and the culture was defining my role
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as a man. And you know, living in the country
clubs and these men raising me, they were teaching me
about real estate, they were teaching me how to play golf,
they were teaching me how to gamble, drink, treat women,
and they were teaching me how to die.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Wow. So what happened?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
So as I continued to you know, get older. Once
I got out of high school, I went straight to
the pro Golf Tour. I was a real good golfer
growing up. I went to the Pro Golf Tour caddy
for one of the best golfers in the world, Lanny
Watkins at the time. Wow, and did that. Or I
was traveling the world and then got off the tour
in nineteen ninety five because my cocaine abuse was getting
so so how were you at that point. I was
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twenty twenty when I went onto the tour. Wow, and
so it was a rock star lifestyle, you know, and
that's just the way I thought life was. And then
when I got off the road, I got married, we
had two boys, and got into the home building industry
in the park cities in Dallas, and so I was
one of the most well known high end luxury homebuilders
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for over twenty years there. And then had a very
chaotic scene where my wife at the time had a
massive brain hemorrhage and collapsed and families came in and
there was a lot of controversy and I played a
role in it. And then I twisted off and literally
lost my mind and got my first mug shot.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Wow wow.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And so that led to multiple drinking, drug incidences, probation issues.
All of a sudden, you became friends of judges.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah right, yeah, And you know I always say that
Judge Jennifer Bennett Dallas County is my professional photographer. You know,
if she took all by twenty seven mugshots. But you know,
my very first mugshot, guys, was was I'll never forget this.
And I shared this earlier with you, doctor Doug. Is
that I didn't reach out to God. But something happened
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where I said, I'm never doing this again. I'm never drinking,
I'm never doing drugs again.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And I meant it.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I literally meant it with every ounce of blood in
my body. Because I had arrived in a place I
said I would never go, and it scared me. It
got my attention. It was a culture that I wasn't
used to. The screaming, the cackling, and it's like, what
is going on. I had no tattoos at the time,
you know, and people are the guards are calling people
by their names. It was a community and I'm like,
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what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So you jumped ahead a little bit, so you ended
up in prison.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I ended up in prison.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
So we first mug shot, I said I'm never doing
this again. I get bonded out, all right. And remember
I said I'm never doing this again, and I meant
it right. I got drunk in high that night.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Twenty six mug shots later, Wow, twenty six mug shots later,
A total of twenty seven mug shots I finally realized
that God was all I had because he was all
I needed.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But as an addict, that's one of the things that
defines addiction.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, is you make promises to self or promises to other,
your mom or grandmother, your kids, and you really mean
it right with your heart because you were at extormotional people.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yes, that's part of their they're just regulated, said, and.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So they they promised themselves and then they go back
and do it even after consequences Photograph fifteen, twenty five.
You know there's consequences and you still use. Those are
all signs that you have an addiction. So if you're
promising yourself and you can't stop, you're promising others.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
And you can't stop, there's consequences and you can't stop.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Whether it's chocolate, social media, because some of our people
they're not you know, doing drugs and alcohol, but drugs, alcohol, pornography,
whatever it is, those are some symptoms.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So what exactly were you in prison for after that?
Twenty seventh?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
So it's a I love this here to begin? So
what are you in prison for?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What was a story?
Speaker 7 (23:51):
I love it? So I was a runner, I was
probation violation, never I didn't have any aggravate assault charges.
I did steal things. I wasn't not yet, not yet.
But I was in there because I wouldn't show up
for probation video. You know, you know meetings I wouldn't
show up for. My UA's were dirty.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You were just above the law.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
I was above the law. And I really thought it
was like they got bigger fish to fry. But Judge
Bennett chased me all up and down Interstate thirty five
the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
But back to addiction, which you were talking about, doctor
Doug And is that what is addiction? And that's what
I love to speak about today, is what is it?
And and I've come up with the definition of addiction
is simply this, addiction is a person, it's a place,
it's a thing. And here's the scary thing or a
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thought that has become my source. That's what addiction is.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
And it's the street name for spiritual stronghold. You know
we're justifying. It's literally the street name for spiritual stronghold.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Because we go there for comfort, we go there for reassurance,
we go there for love, we go there for escaped
and that's where really the Lord wants to be that
in our life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He wants to be that place is alas.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Okay, So you end up in prison, and how long
were you supposed to be in there?
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So I'm in I'm in prison after my twenty seventh
monk shot, so May twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, I get apprehended.
If they would let me out the next day, I
would have gotten more drugs and alcohol. But once I
got apprehended, they put me in what's called the North
Tower at Loosteric Justice Center on the second floor rock
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and Roll, I mean it is gangster tank.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
And what does your family say? In like your parents, you're.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I mean you're gone. They've completely disengaged.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And what about the people that you knew, you know
and worked with in park cities and friends, and did
everybody kind of dissipate when you got in trouble?
Speaker 7 (25:48):
You know, it's a whole different topic. I was so
good doctor, you probably touched on this too. And your
specialty is that my whole life is that I knew
a lot of people. I never let anybody close. I
never ever let anybody close, and I never had intimate relationship.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So there wasn't really like anyone to even reach out
to you when you're in the prison.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, So here you are. You're in a rough place now.
And what happened.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
I'm in a two man cell and this old man
comes into my cell and he's dragging his mad. He's
seventy five years old, he's got polio, okay, and he
comes in and I got to give him a bottom bunk.
You know, I can't. I got I gotta get the
bottom bunk.
Speaker 16 (26:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
And I'm the minority, you know, I'm the minority in
this culture. And so I am extremely, extremely, you know, quiet,
and they were so good to me. They were so
good to me. I am in a tank that everybody
in there's not going home. Nobody's going home.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So there's some serious crimes.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, they put me in the wrong tank, but God
put me in the right tank.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
So when he comes in there, they called him Oohwi
and I go, man, why they call you?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And he says man.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
When I was a kid, I used to walk up
and down the streets on Camp Wisdom over my oak
Cliff Bible fellow Tip and the girls would see me
and they say ooh we And so that was his name.
His prison name. My prison name was Rabbit. They called
me Rabbit because I couldn't sit still. So I'm pacing
in the day room and we get out of ourselves
for maybe three hours of time. And I'm pacing in
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the dayroom going one hundred miles an hour because I'm
in my head. I'm in my head, and so ooh,
he says, hey, Rabbit, look out, come here. I need
to talk to you. You're making me nervous, and you're
making everybody in here nervous. And if you don't figure
out how to do easy time, they're gonna show you
off the bone. I said, what are you talking about?
So my attorney comes to see me, my quarter pointed
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attorney for my deal, and I go see him. And
as I'm walking back into the tank, this guy is
leaving and he hands me this book. It's a white book,
boring cover, and I'm not any mood to read because
I'm still detoxing. And I go into my I just
throw it on my deal. OOHI says, hey, what's that
book set say? And I said, what says? Detours by
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Doctor Tony Evans. He goes, ooh, I love me some
doctor Tony Evans. That's a diesel. I'm like, well, who's
doctor Tony Evans And he says, oh man, he's all
this at oak Cliffe Bible Fellowship and and so I go,
well cool. I said, well, here, you can read it
if you want to. And he says, well, will you
read it to me? And I'm like, what are you
talking about? He says, I can't read, I can't write.
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He says, no one in here can blew me away,
blew me away. So I started reading it to him.
And the book Detours is about the story of Joseph,
and so I can relate to it. And it got
me out of self and I started realizing that I
became serving someone expecting you in return, which put me
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in the safest place in the world, which is right here,
right now, because that's where God's at.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Okay, so you're jumping ahead too fast.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Okay, you started reading the book, it started impacting you, Yes,
And so when was your moment that all of a
sudden you realized maybe God could help you.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
It's coming, It's coming, It's coming. So that was so
as I start reading this to him. I'm not a believer,
but I'm missed reading this to him because he asked
me to read to him, and I didn't want him
to tell like other gang bangers. Hey, I asked this
guy to read to him and he wouldn't read to me.
And they're going to, you know, put hands on me.
So as I'm reading to him, I start, you know,
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feeling different. Something's happening. On July seventh, twenty seventeen, I'm
in my top bunk and I'm becoming really curious about
this Jesus dude.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And nobody to ever really talk to you about that.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
They talked to me about it, but that was hocus
pocus witchcraft because I was God. Yeah, you know, I
was God. I was like, no, I mean, why would
a God allow some man to sectually abuse me?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
But the book kind of like opened your heart.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Heart, It opened my heart. It had me because I
can relate to Joseph. I can relate to the betrayal
and the abandonment. And UI was questioning. He's like going, hey, man,
get this Bible and tell me who Paul is. He's
like asking me the questions. I don't know who he is.
I don't know what find him. I have to go
to the back and like, look up, Paul, you know,
and so it was like a study to me. So
UI was like a real blessing guy was working through
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OUI to help me. And so in my handwriting, and
the book detours as I'm reading it, I start reading
it to the inmates in the tank. And this tank
is growing closer and closer together. And so I become
tank boss here I am. Everybody's relying on me. Now,
the club kid. Yeah, this country club kid is now
becoming tank boss. So on July seventh, twenty seventeen, I
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remember March. I mean May twenty nine, twenty Seventeen's when
I got arrested July seven, twenty seventeen, I just said, okay, Jesus,
whoever you are. I mean, I hear about you. I mean,
you know what's going on. I mean, that was my
call to action. My chest was tight and I couldn't
so it's like a thought it was. I thought it
was medical, something was wrong. I took this deep breath
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in the top bunk and I breathed in like this,
and I breathed out. And I was never a movie
watcher because I was always working doing stuff. But I
did see the movie Green Mile. And the movie Green Mile,
it reminded me. I exhaled, and I felt all this rage, anger, resentment,
all this stuff coming out of my body, and I
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literally go like ah, and then I go.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Just like that.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
And when I did that, it was like ice water
coming into my body and.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It was love.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
It was a love I never felt before. Liquid There
you go. I like that.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
The only reason I say that is because I've interviewed
other people just like you a similar experience, and that's
how they described it.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I was like, it was like it was like the
car was driving real fast. I didn't know what to
do with my hands. And so I'm looking down and go,
I love oo weed. I see guards walking around. I
love him, I love her, I love him, I love
I mean, what is happening with me right now? But
I'm holding it all inside and so I'm like reckless
And it gets gooder, Jony, it gets better, I mean
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from here. And so now I'm just digging into the word. Now,
here's this guy that has made these real estate fifteen
to ten million dollars real estate transactions. I've been borrowing
this living Recovery Bible with the twelve steps in it
from this gangbanger and I have to give it back
to them. Now was he reading it? No, The books
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in the cell were used for pillows. People would prop
their heads up so they could lay their head for pillows.
As I'm reading this, people are paying me soups, which
is a dollar to write letters for them and to
read to them. Plus they just became my friend. I
had no money on my books, which is commissary, and
they started giving me soups. I collected eleven dollars and
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I went to this black panther to do the biggest
real estate deal of my life, and I offered him
eleven dollars for that Bible and we closed the deal
and he sold it to me. So I had that.
I bought that Bible for eleven soups eleven dollars, and
I got knee deep into it in the Book of Matthew.
And that's where I started reading, was the Book of Matthew.
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And I finally went and saw the judge, Judge Bennett indicted,
and she indicted me. And I came in and I
went and saw the judge. She saw something not it's different.
She just knew. And I said, Judgementett, I don't care
what you do I don't care where you send me,
because here's the deal. I don't know why I'm doing
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the things I'm doing. And that was the true first
step of the company for me, of honesty. I don't know,
and that's what I encourage reviewers to say. I don't know.
I don't know who Jesus is help me. I don't
know how to quit drinking. I don't know how to
do drugs. I don't know how to do that. And
that's why you call the number that's on the screen,
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is to ask those questions. Just simply say you know,
at one hundred three to two nine zero zero two nine,
call that number and literally say I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
So I want to mention everyone. Of course, we have
here at Day Star Recovery for everyone. This is a
you can download it. This is for addiction. This is
thirty five years of work that Doug has done, and
this is our free gift. Believe it or not, this
is worth a lot. But this because we care so
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much about you being set free from addiction. I want
to make that available. Okay, So what did she say
and had.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You had your like real full come to Jesus moment
at that point?
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Yeah, that was, so that was after July seventh, two
thousand and so July seventh.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Is when Jesus came in.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
He came in.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You just said, Jesus, I need you.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
I just said, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I mean, my grandpa just said, God, if you're there.
He didn't know how to pray, and that just said God,
if you're there.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
And that might be where you are and your story, Yeah,
you might be at the end of your rope and saying,
you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I need help. I need someone else to drive my car.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And if you're like Michael, or maybe you've walked away,
maybe you grew up in church and you're like, you know,
you're a mess.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Either way, Jesus still loves you. He's in love with you,
and you can come home right now.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's not hard.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Just say these words out loud with me, say Jesus, Jesus,
forgive me of my sins.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Forgive me of my sins.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
I repent, I repent.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I believe you died for me.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I believe you died for me.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
I believe your blood paid for every mistake.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I believe your blood paid for every mistake.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I make you lord of me right now I make
you Lord of me right now in Jesus.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Name, Jesus Name.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And if you've said that prayer, we want to get
you a couple things immediately. Number one, the Gospel of
John has a QR code so that you can understand
what you're reading. And also a little book called now
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Speaker 3 (35:59):
You in me immediately. Because coming home is the beginning
of a whole new story.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yes, yeah, okay, so the story's not over. The story
have some exciting things.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Oh I love it. I'm a storyteller, so this is
a great listener. So, Judge Bennett, you know when I
went and saw her, I said, I'm willing to do
I don't care how long you send me to prison.
I don't care what you do. Is I am willing
to go to any length to change because I never
ever want to feel this way again. She's like, who
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is this guy? Who is this guy? And she goes,
you know what, I've got to send you to prison,
and I'm gonna send you away for two years. And
she goes, when you get out, you come back and
see me, and I said, yes, ma'am. And so as
I left, I went back and I couldn't wait to
get back to the cell because I wanted to get
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back because every night at dinner, I would get up
and I would read UH and say prayer for it.
And I don't know how to pray.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You're doing an industry, you don't even know what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Reckless Christian. I'm the kind of guy, Oh really well,
Bible says, and I just opened the book up and
just you know, and just read something. And so I
go back and now I catch chain. And what that
means is it's time to go. It's time to go
to prison. So you literally get on the chain. You
get on the bus. And I was going to Henderson, Texas,
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which is out in East Texas, but they took me
to Central Texas for a holdover. So I'm three hundred
miles away in Central Texas. So Timeline, so you left
Uwie and all the guys left them all. I don't
know where they're at today. And they were real sad
for me to leave, and I was sad to leave.
And so remember the timeline. May twenty ninth, twenty seventeen.
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Now I'm in Central Texas. I walk into another rock
and roll tank. It's crazy, act in a fool. People
are just acting a fool in there, which means they're
just self will run. So I go in there and
I'm just mind my own business and I sit down
and get my Bible out and I'm writing something. That
guy comes up to me and he goes, hey, what's
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that say? I said, we'll read it. I just wrote it.
He says, I can't read, I can't write. I go,
I see. I said, here we go. We're going to
do it again. And we started doing it again and
started reading and writing to those guys. That tank came together. Wow,
I had a second awakening because I started doing word studies.
What's repentance, what's conviction? Forgiveness?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Like you're doing Bible school.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
I'm doing well. I tell everybody I went to seminary
for four years. The thing is I was a teacher.
Actually I wasn't the teacher. The inmates were the teachers,
and actually the Holy Spirit was the teaching yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
That's what I said, and that's the truth. And that's
where I really started understanding the Holy Spirit. But what
I had my awakening, I started talking about forgiveness. Is
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what I love to speak about is forgiveness. I read
matth six fourteen fifteen, and it said, when you forgive,
this is my translation, when you forgive the ones who
have hurt you. That's fourteen verse fifteen. Guy says, I'll
bless your game. I'll perform the supernatural. See, if I
have a resentment, it blocks me from God. But once
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that resentment is removed and I understand the role that
I play in the resentment. Wait a minute, you played
a role in your grandfather sexually abusing you. I sure do.
And the role I play in it was I chose
to hold on to the resentment, and when I let
that go, God performed the supernatural. Johnny, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Ready?
Speaker 7 (39:37):
This is October twelfth that this awakening happened.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You remember these exact dates.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
October thirteenth. The next day they come over the loud
speaker and they say, Michael Moulten Bunk and Junk, I
was the first person to stay of Texas history, you'd
be accidentally set free from prison. They open the door.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
They literally physically accidentally set free from right.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
They said it was an o out.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, so on the October twelve, you released your grandfather
and you forgave him.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
For what he did.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
God set the bond and gave Christ the key, and
Christ literally put it in the lock, turned it, opened
the door, and they physically had to push me out
of prison because I was like going, there's a mistake here.
And now I'm standing there.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You're the only person that would be saying wait, wait,
I don't think they.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Were going any want Yeah, three book and get another photo,
another bug shot. So I mean, I was trying to
get my twenty eighth mug shot and they said no,
you're out, and so I literally the gas of the
world hit me, and I said, God, what do you
want me to do? And he told me this, He says, walk,
So I walked, you know, And and so I took
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myself and walked three hundred miles back to you know,
Frank Crowley Courthouse.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
How long did it take you to do that?
Speaker 7 (40:53):
A week?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Yeah, it took me a week.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
And what did you do along the way, like stopping
it talking to God.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I mean, did you just sleep on the Yeah, I
just slept on the you know side. People will give
me water. And I'm in jeans. I'm in the clothes
that they arrested me in on May twenty nine, twenty seventeen.
So I'm in like these like dress shoes and a
NASCAR T shirt and blue jeans. Yeah, I look just look,
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I look confusing. And I'm bald, you know, because they
shave your hair off.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Okay, so you walked this three hundred miles. It takes
you a week to do it. People help you along
the way. But you had developed a close enough relationship
with the Lord where you were listening.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
To what he said.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
He told me this, He said walk, and he says,
and I said, what do you want me to do?
And you know I always hear people back in the day. Go.
The Lord spoke to me and I said, man, y'all
have mental health issues. I mean, y'all have drug problems.
Yeah I don't, yah, And I didn't know what that meant.
But the Lord spoke to me. He said walk, And
he also said this, He says, don't put my name
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in your mouth. Go show the world who I am.
Don't tell them, you go show the world.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Who I am.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, So you walk the three hundred miles to.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Wear the courthouse to turn myself in, and what happened?
So I walk in and Judge Bennett's like, I mean,
she's like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
And so I walked how long had you served at
that point?
Speaker 7 (42:17):
What's that? So I have a two year sentence. I'd
always served like four or five months.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Okay, four or five months. So there you are, Judge Bennett.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
I said, you told me to come back.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
And so what'd she say?
Speaker 7 (42:30):
Well, she says, I, actually I've heard about what you've
been doing. Behind the walls. Inmates have been coming to
her saying that this manager really helped her by help
them by reading to them.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 17 (42:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That is amazing.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
She knew who it was, and she goes, I don't
want to get in the way of that. And so
she pardoned me and set me free, and she says, go,
you know, go pay it forward, and here I am today,
eight years later.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well let's talk about the addiction.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah, because you're in prison, you can't probably get drugs
and alcohol.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
I mean, but I didn't I wasn't seeking it, okay,
but you know any money either, IDUs Bible.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
But what about being free from the addictions? When did
you know you were free?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Like especially like when you got out and you would
have had access and any other time you would have
gone right back to doing what you had done before.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Was it a process?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I mean sanctification is a process where people don't just overnight.
But what was that process like for you where you know,
like today you're free?
Speaker 7 (43:30):
Well, yeah, I'm free. There's no there's no mental obsession,
there's there's no physical cravings.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Did Jesus do that?
Speaker 7 (43:38):
Absolutely? Jesus does everything, you know, every everything. But here's
the thing, and I don't know. This is deep for me.
I'm never free, thank God, because if I'm completely free,
I'm an addict. I won't turn to Christ. I'll put
Christ on a shelf. You know, I may not be
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doing drugs and out alcohol, but on a daily basis,
I'll catch myself seeking visible things to try to fix
my invisible problems as a result of lack of faith
or fear. Okay, but walking with the Lord, full with
the Holy Spirit, talking to people like you, getting counsel
from people like you, I recognize it today. That's the thing.
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Before in my addiction, I didn't recognize it. It was
everybody else's fault.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I was the victim sense, And I think the way
I like to say it is, you know, I'm free
with boundaries.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Yeah like that.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Now, as long as I don't play in those yards,
I'm totally free. If I go in those yards, I
can become captive again. But with the yard that God
gave me, I'm totally free. I'm free to be who
I am, follow the Lord, do what I'm supposed to do.
And Okay, I haven't had a drink in forty years.
Oh okay, that hasn't hurt me. I haven't done drugs
in for you, that didn't hurt me. I haven't done
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pornography in forty years.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
That hasn't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Right, you know what I'm saying. So God can set
you free. Okay, we really do want you to call.
Give us your grand Shill Drew's name, give us your
children's name, give us.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Your mom and dad's name. Let us pray with you
about them today. Because addictions.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
You know this, Michael, it's not just the addicts issue.
It becomes the whole families. It's a business issue, the
ministry's issue, and so please call nine zero zero to nine.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
We do want to minister to you now. Michael A.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Multen will will continue sharing on the power of God
what's happened in his life. But let's pause for a
moment and worship with Jony and the day Star singers
as they sing no fear, it's we're calling your God.
Speaker 18 (46:05):
In the middle of the bad, when if I is
home with the bird his head, I am not alone.
Speaker 8 (46:14):
In the middle of the bad. When if I is all,
when the bird his head, I will sing this song,
no bad father, no guess a ros songs in the
(46:42):
getting so.
Speaker 18 (46:45):
A sound you're sumer natural. You will says, Okay, we're
calling your bird in the middle of the bad, when
the fine is all. When the bird is said, I
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am not in the middle of the bad.
Speaker 8 (47:12):
When the fine is home.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
When the bird is said, I will say this.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
All no way mad for yes, my mos, we make
songs and you no fan, I know that you love me.
Speaker 17 (47:43):
No fan you get anything, you'll spear it, no fa
the love that song for sinking and now be shaken.
Speaker 8 (47:54):
No man, no fan.
Speaker 15 (48:00):
With me.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
N you can't.
Speaker 8 (48:04):
Adspear it no you sake it be shaken you sugar, you.
Speaker 12 (48:20):
Go a sound.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
You're super you names says o. Guys were colored by Kaup.
You'll go a sound, You're super natural.
Speaker 17 (48:44):
You love names us says ogus were colored.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
Who.
Speaker 15 (48:56):
So we continue our conversation with Michael Molfin next. Behind
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every prison wall is a soul searching for hope. At
day Star, we believe no one is too far gone.
That's why we partner with correctional facilities offering free TV
equipment maintenance and twenty four to seven Christ centered programming
for tablet based systems. The day Star app brings hope
right into inmate's hands. If you're a chaplain, pastor, or
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someone who serves the incarcerated, contact day Star today because
every soul deserves a chance to meet Jesus.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
A man.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Well, there is no fear.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
That's a great song, baby, and listen. Today is a
day for.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Freedom for so many people. We know the phones are
they're just lit up. Please keep calling.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
For the one you love. Nine zero zero too night.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
I wanted to mention also that those of you that watch,
especially here in America, are on like a one hundred
and fourteen million homes in America and TV one hundred
TV stations in every outlet you can think of. But
if you have connections to prisons in your area, you
know someone who does call that number and let us know,
because we're working to get on every prison in America.
(50:58):
And of course, Michael, with you here, that would be
near and dear to your heart as well.
Speaker 7 (51:02):
Right absolutely, And we were talking earlier, so our show
is actually already on the tablets, so you know, whatever
we can do to help out what day started to
get you on the tablets, we're here to do that
for you.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
Okay, So okay, let's continue the story then, So the
judge is set you free, and then what do you
do next?
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Because I mean, think about that's like a Jesus moment, like, yes,
you're guilty, but I forgive you.
Speaker 7 (51:29):
She did I mean that? And that wasn't I still
didn't care. I was going to turn myself in to
get rebooked in to go finish my time, So I
wasn't there. It was never even a thought that I
was going to be seven.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
But you had, you had been obedient to reach out
and touch other prisoners that were hurting. And then they're
coming back and telling her about this, so that had
an impact on her. She's like, wow, this the guy's
really made a change.
Speaker 7 (51:56):
Well, it was helping me. That was the whole deal.
Is helping others, was helping me because it was getting
me out of that. Don't preach just like this show.
I mean me being on this show, I haven't once
thought about the future or the past. It's got me
right here right now because that's where christ is.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, talk to people right now, Michael.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Just look in the camera that are struggling with addiction
and they've listened to what you had to say, and
they're like, you know, I've said it a hundred times.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'm not going to do this again. I'm not going
to make this mistake. I'm done. And then it.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Happens over and over again, and you want to know
how do I get free? I do want to mention
Doug's recovery for everyone that you've made available to our day.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Star absolutely free to push a button, put your phone
their click, and you can download it and you can
start working the principles of freedom and recovery. Really, that
retail is about eighty dollars on that, so download it.
Wherever you are in the world, so that you can
break the change in your life.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
And I know you've got the book, the book and
the workbook, and there are some people that can download,
so we'll help you with that as well, but we
would brother you download, right, So anyway that's available.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
What a great blessing. Okay, So here you are, you're out.
What's what's up? What's the Lord saying? Now?
Speaker 6 (53:09):
So?
Speaker 7 (53:09):
I mean when I got when I got released. So
when I got released, I didn't know what to do,
you know, And so I went to check on my
dad who was ill. He was he was very sick.
And he says, some guy keeps calling me, and it
was a local radio personality doing a business talk show
(53:30):
and looking for me. Want to interview me talk about
real estate. And so I get on this radio show
and so I'm I'm released on Friday, October thirteenth, eight
days later the following or seven days later, the following Friday,
I'm on his talk show being interviewed, and he's like,
where's Michael Boltam been, the big time homebuilder? Where have
(53:52):
you been? And so I share this entire story that
I just shared with you and your viewer and.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
What is the guy doing? He's like freaking out like so, and.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
This makes perfect sense because what year was this? And
I said this was Friday? So it's like what this
was last Friday? And so the local media got a
hold of it. iHeartRadio got a hold of it. And
here I am today, just following my feet and just
doing what God said and the walk and it hadn't
(54:22):
been easy.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yeah, talk to that person that I just mentioned, well,
to the one who's struggling right now and struggling with addiction.
Speaker 7 (54:32):
This may sound cliche, You're not alone, okay. Recovery is
not about getting good. Recovery is about getting well. And
the first step is I challenge you this, and it's
okay to say these three words, and that is I
don't know. Call the number on the screen and literally
(54:56):
say call the number at one eight hundred three two
nine zero zero two nine. That's one eight hundred and
three to two nine zero zero two nine, and simply
say I have a problem with drugs and alcohol. Are
any addiction a visible thing that is on this planet
that has got a hold of my life And I
(55:16):
don't know why I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I need help and we'll connect you Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Well, so many people, Michael, you're not maybe aware of this,
but we're literally airing in one hundred and ninety five
nations right now.
Speaker 10 (55:30):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Okay, and so many of them have called in and
emailed in. They're still calling in and they said, pray
for me. Okay, So here's some of some of them.
I won't just put your hand on these papers and
just pray for those that God will bring them life
and freedom.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
Okay, if you can do that.
Speaker 7 (55:48):
Heavy Father, we love you so much. You are so powerful,
you are real. You're the Alpha, You're the Omega. We
asked that you just please just heal these people, give
them hope, give them breath, help them take a deep
breath in and breathe out slowly. Help them accept your
(56:09):
son as the Savior. The only way to heaven is
through Jesus Christ and your name. We pray, Amen, Am, Amen, Amen, We'll.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Do continue to call. I think there's still some of
you on. Know you can't get through. The lines are jamming,
but you can also go to Daystar dot com and
click on prayer, send in your prayer request that way
as well. We pray over all those that come into
day Star again. Recovery for everyone. This is a free
download and it will take you through what Doug.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
It'll take you through how you became addicted and what
you need to do to walk out. The workbook will
walk you through that as well, and so just download
that and get that.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
But I just want to encourage you. You know, Michael,
your story.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
I mean, as hard as it was for you, it
says to us, the living God will track you down
and find you where you are, love on you, and
then ship you out. I mean you were in ministry
almost the day after you got saved because you're the
only guy who could read you know what I mean,
(57:13):
and so God appointed you.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
You are now the apostle in the tank, you know,
reading the Where to God? I mean the humor of
this is a movie, you know it really.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Really or the next day after heave his grandfather.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
And supernaturally listen. There might be people that you need
to forgive.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
There might be this might inspire you to say, you
know what, maybe I'm being blocked, Maybe something is keeping
me in an unseen.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Prison, but you're holding the very key to let yourself out.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
Forgive those that have hurt you.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
And I know almost psychologists, some of those things are
deep wounds.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
You might need to do some healing as well.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
But forgiveness will release you from being limited from what
they tried to do to you.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
I know I had to do it myself.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
God is really excited about you, so you a mass
be encouraged. God sees you and he might encourage you
in some way to do something all right.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
Also, again, Recovery for Everyone, let's put that up. We
do have the book and the workbook, but you can
download it for free. Also, your book just came out,
Forgiveness for Everyone, and we have copies here at day Star.
This is a great book to read on forgiveness. Well,
thank you so much for watching. Thank you Michael, and
we'll see you next time right here on Ministry Now.
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