Best we Forget

I feel like we've used this title before unfortunately. Another ANZAC Day clash where the Dragons did not perform anywhere close to expectations. 

Is there an issue with how Flanno prepares the team for big clashes?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(01:33):
one nine three zero. Now I'm getting pretty sick of
losing Anzac Day Dragons fans each year, so much promised
undelivered on It's arguably the biggest game of the year
for us, but we just can't seem to stand up
to the challenge. So from yet another big loss of
waters and a lot to dissect tonight, So let's get

(01:56):
into what is probably going to be the shortest heroes
and villains ever.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
What's it's doing there?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I don't know, technical difficulties.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Thought it was so I can't even play the video.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
We need dig it back to introduce a Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Hang on, Jee just gone on with that, has having
technical difficulties with that.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
It's your own.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, we're just like Drake Astean.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, well, might worry about the worry about the intro
this time. So I've gone with here today, gone tomorrow.
I hope that is another day, another another Anzac clash,
gone to ship and another threshing by the waters. I'm
induces too much defense in the first part of the
game and forwards, not aiming up and putting pressure on

(03:02):
the roosters, especially the halves, while our own hearts showed
once again why they belong in reserve grade. If that
which I think Youngie wants to have a bit of
a chat about later now. Honestly, I wasn't expecting much
from the officials, and honestly I reckon we would have
been better off with scooping charge. But you can't blame
the referees when you're making errors and giving away six
againds like we did, and when your forwards are more

(03:24):
actually described as backwards. So basically the heroes of the
fans who actually stuck around till the end to watch
that shit, and the russ of Ellen's will because they're
the roosters. Told you is going to be a short one.
So firstly, let's see it from coach Flanagan and co
captain Damian Cook, who look to have a little look

(03:47):
to have little answer for that slaughter of a defeat.
Hopefully this one works.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
Jesse.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Shane, given that engine the stage that you disappointed are
you and the team put.

Speaker 9 (04:09):
Together it really especially where we've been the last couple
of weeks. Agen the solid football people play and we're
just the first half, you know, just cooked. Us were
twenty nine percent of possession at halftime and your hope
that that swings and you hope that you've got some
energy left to you to make it swing. But credit

(04:32):
to them that you know, they applied pressure around the
twenty nine percent of possession and we're just I could
just tell it half time we were just looking for answers.
We're been out of our feet.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
So.

Speaker 9 (04:42):
You know, and some of the things that we've been
so good out is our tackle control and someone we're
just off today.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
So it's just hopefully.

Speaker 9 (04:50):
It's just one of those things that it's hard to
maintain form and we just didn't get it right today,
especially in the first half.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Did they come with more energy than you to start
that game?

Speaker 9 (05:00):
Yeah, they run harder and got field position and put
up better kicks than us. At the end, we're kicking
from inside our forty and I think we scored a
trial with only three percent of possession, but as I said, halftime,
with only twenty seven percent of possession, it just kills.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
They're better decisions that you could have made to swing
that possession.

Speaker 9 (05:20):
Yes, definitely, Yes, there was a couple of aers on
tackle one errors with the football not getting the kicks,
So once again that's self inflicted.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
A lot of it.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Some of it's you know, world under the ruster, but
some of it's definitely us.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
There's a sind in you think maybe that's the moment
that you can manage better, and in the other they
go down the other.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
End and score.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Yeah, without a doubt, we needed to. We throw a
ball to the ground there.

Speaker 9 (05:48):
You know, our skill has been good and our execution
on our edges has been good, but today on that occasion,
all goes to ground and then they go up the
other end and I think they kicked a penalty.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
All it's going to try.

Speaker 9 (06:01):
I kicked dependent and we didn't have the ball while
they were down to tall man.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
So they handle a little better than we did.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Just on that period.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Cook, you had the floating walls.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think you made that line break to start the
second half, Sandy goes to the bin.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Looks like you have a bit of momentum.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
And then as Flannel says, they then score the next
day points instead of.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Put that lead out.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Yeah, it probably it was a moment in the game
that we could end it a lot better. And they
did it really well. They controlled the game, and I
finally said, this has been areas of our game that
have been really good round rock control, markets and stuff,
and we just went at our best today and the
simple game.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
We made it hard for ourselves.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
They ran harder on and the aquidata on a big occasion.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, that didn't seem encouraging, did it.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Well, I mean it pretty much shows how much of
a clue they seem to have, because I mean that
they sound like geniuses after the fact. It's like, well,
you know, you've got to do this stuff. We can
make out. So what are you doing to address it?

Speaker 5 (07:14):
And out?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Let's let's keep going. So now let's just introduce the
rest of the panel. So you've already heard from a
self a co.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, was.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Rage and rob. So we've got does a Young coming
up for a bit of a chat.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
Gnossy again does and God almighty, cocops just frozen.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I'm here.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
You've done a rob. You haven't paid trip, I'm on
my phone.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
We can't see I'm here.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
No, well, I'm in that room, so get you know,
I'm you.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Look. Take there's a picture of you, the wine glass
in the air. You know you look good.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I do need that.

Speaker 11 (08:07):
I do need that.

Speaker 10 (08:09):
So yeah, it's just because room and I'm watching the
gate so because I need to rehash what happened. Okay,
I've got to rehash.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Do you really want to rehash what happened?

Speaker 10 (08:27):
I watched it live?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Why not? We've got to learn.

Speaker 11 (08:32):
They've got to learn. I hope they watch it again.
We've got to learn from our mistakes.

Speaker 12 (08:38):
You know, this felt like we're out muscled, but therefore
packed and that new winger, that new winger for the
roosters on the right hands what's his cunning?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Pronounce his name? Oh wow, what a player. Yeah, he's
I think he's cemented. That's what. Yeah, when a young
might have trouble.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
To look across the park, you've got you've got, you've
got props are running it up and they're plotting it
up and play Florie as well too. I mean, look
look at the opposition props even in other teams as
well too. It was talking about all this stuff about fours.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
That we go for.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Well, you need that, you need to. We've got big bobbers.
We've gotta claim is a big bother.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
They're just affective like the rest has just made meat
as it will straight up. When they wanted to.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
It was the beast. Bring them lok, just bring him in,
bring you in, give.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Him I reckon, he's got to get a start this week.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Give me a game. That's what we're gonna do. If
you want to move, move talk to thirty and bring
little in the hookup, make some bottle moves, bringing up
a cot into the hearts, because we're gonna have the
same thing as we we had last year. We might
get close to the eight, we might even make the eight,
or we mightn't but is that really what we might
We'm going to do, what we're going to do for
the future, what's best for the future, to make us

(10:10):
be competitive in the finals, not just make it or
be outside it. So something he's got to give because.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Be good.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
We're just still inconsistent. Again, it haunts us, It really
haunts us.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, we're consistent, but in they're all wrong areas.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
And Smith was just outstanding.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Oh mabe, very good, very good. Any spent ten minutes
in the binn too, So.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, so let's let's get into the Mad Dragons Player
of the Year voting always difficult after a performance like
that with Se the only fin ours Trice seemilarly enough
to form nine votes to the few who actually bothered
to do it, couldn't get many many takers. Now this
week Holmes was just behind him with eight and Damien

(11:05):
Cook picked out five. So, Jesse, you were one of
the three that gave finale with maximum votes. Aside from
scoring that runaway try, what did he do to get
to get three votes from you?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Well?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, as you said, it was difficult to do a
three two one with the pretty shambles performance, it was. Yeah, Well,
the standout was that obviously the try that he scored
that against the runner play that try, but he did
try his heart out. He made the most means of
any Dragons playing on the day one hundred and eighty nine.

(11:41):
He was heavily targeted. What was just his fourth game
in the top grade, and he's been called for for
many weeks to coming for well, he was looking to
start the he was supposed to be picked, him picked
Christian too. Body went down, but he went and while

(12:04):
he was m and on the occasion. And I'm looking
forward to you'll get extended in the top grade. We're
watching out and also Phoene out for an extended period.
So I'm looking to see how fin Our develops and
get goes as you must gets more opportunities in the
top grade.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Well, I think with until Bloto and Female out for
a while, I think he's pretty much got to get
picked by by default. And okay, so let's go onto
some moments in the match. You're on the Mad Dragons podcast,
brought to you by Complete wor House Solutions. So the
Ruce has got an early try in just the third
minute of the game through fire, they sand and Sis

(12:49):
strolling over for the simplest of tries. Now, Coco, were
you worried how easy the russ crossed for that opening try?

Speaker 11 (13:00):
Yes, I was worried if it was going to be
like this the whole game.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I was very worried.

Speaker 10 (13:06):
But we were lucky enough to have the young gun
with his speed score next.

Speaker 11 (13:11):
But really it was I felt being there watching the
game the but he said the Roosters had the better
gameplay and better positions.

Speaker 10 (13:22):
We weren't there.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
We were either not there, which was really very disappointing.
But yeah, it was just you know, and that Sandon Smith,
he's going to be He'll go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I think.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
I know we're talking about the Dragons, but the Roosters.
I'll give credit. He should be in origin or whatever
you know.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Over to you.

Speaker 10 (13:43):
Captain has been.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Well Vice captain anyway.

Speaker 10 (13:50):
Today upgraded?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Okay, were won't be quiet Captain's orders. Now three minutes
the Rusts were setting up another attacking raid, but a
great tackle from valholms On Hugo Sivlla forced a mistake
which the only fin Ow picked up and raced eighty
minutes to score his first NROL try. Now, did you

(14:13):
expect a tight game at this point.

Speaker 12 (14:17):
I think I was worried the whole match, to be honest,
we just look gassed and fatigued. I think twenty minutes
in you could see Roosters were getting the upper hand
despite what the school might have looked like. But yeah,
they just look like they're in control of me for
most of the match. I've just been honest.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Well, you don't win by that many if you're not
in control. So the Rusters were running us ragged, which
seems seemingly started to fatigue and tire the Dragon's defense,
especially targeting the inexperience. The only fin out with Mark
now I can think to Aasi scoring in the corner.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
I don't pronounce it either.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's not a bad attempt.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
We need, we need big t he announce his bloody
names properly.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Lochland Ilius made a strong tackle line AGAs Crichton, which
Crichton actually led with his elbow and four arm into
the head of lochan Ilius. Now I'll go to you
for this one, Rob. It was Crichton lucky to stay
on the field. He knew exactly what.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
I remember the tackle exactly. To be honestly, has been
to be honest, but after seeing this weekend with all
the games, how silly some of the head High's words,
to be honest with you, how how lesser head high
it was, how mean it was, how.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Bad it was.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
I mean, the trail only got a week for his
and then there was other one who if he slipped up.
I mean, to be honest with you, if that's the
go from what you're saying, well then maybe you should
have obviously got ten in the bin.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
So exactly what he is doing and from what we've
seen this weekend, I cannot believe you can go.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, so yeah's answer your question. Obviously you know more
than what I did. Obviously it sounds like you deserve
to get ten in the bin. But going back to
what Dad said, I don't think it matters what happened
with that sort of thing, tend the bin or whatever.
We were just useless. We didn't turn up. The attitude
was wrong, and I think you guys said previously that

(16:29):
this is a number of times now on the Anxact
Day match where we just we haven't turned up. So yeah,
it's terribly disappointing as man, to be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, if you if you can't get up for a
ransack day. If you don't get a team up for
a ransact day, then you're not much not much job
as a coach. But I was not going to say.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Last year as well too, So you know, come on,
we should have, like you said, should have be enough
for it. We should have wanted revenge.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Revenge for last week?

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Motivation? Enough?

Speaker 6 (17:08):
It wasn't it sixty points last year?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Just six?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
So we've we've repaired by.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Four ten points points.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Still still crap anyway. Anyway, So Jesse, I'll give you
this one. So Garthur Keey's persevering with these bloody short
dropouts which just were not coming off. The russ just
seemed to be camped on their line, making us do
a lot of defensive work. Now, why the hell do

(17:44):
we keep trying these short dropouts if they're not working?

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Because everyone else does it. That's how you get the
ball back.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I don't know why we do it, because we did
a lot of last year. Ben Hunt did it with
us last year as well. I don't know why. Why
kick it meters and then the Rusters get the ball
right on our troll line. This is not just for
this game, but any game. I don't know why. Why
don't just kick it downfield make the opposition team run
it back instead of giving the make you have to
find our own goal one all the time. And the

(18:14):
rooster scored two or three tries off of it, So
why give him the ball that close? Kick it sixty
meters downfield?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
What's now? I should have been big enough to take him.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Yeah, and what's some of the top of the game.
Watch some of the top halves. Ada Reynolds the key,
he watches, he looks, he goes side and then he
looks to see and then you'll go along, you know
what I mean. So what you're saying, Jesse, we should
play smart football because we were obviously the possession was
way down. So this short dropout if you don't, if

(18:45):
you don't pinpoint it and make it pervy, then your stuffed.
And they got tall team, man, they got that bloody
that draft guy in the what's his name for the
rooster and the other guy on the other week. So
I mean, yeah, they're so good under the high ball,
you know, like.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
It's just all and the Sloans sloaneless found winding a
little bit and on the wing he got tested.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Yeah, it's just done. I agree that has been completely
but I don't know what's what's wrong with with tactics.
But we're going to improve in the area. It's just ship.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Problem.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Bombs. Why make the bombs so deep? Why not make
the bombs higher so we can at least get a
player to can test the ball. I mean, I hate
HUNFULINGI to lead, but at least hunts bombs would go
up and Lomax would have a chance.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
To try and catch them. Alias doesn't have any variety.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
No, but this is zero variation, no chips, no crossfield kicks.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Look at Reynolds kick the in the game. He played
crossfield to the winger and he scored a try. I
don't reckon our play. Ours have the capability of doing that.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I think they scored about three tries off kicks like that.
Didn't the Broncos im pouring rain.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
You want in the rain?

Speaker 5 (20:10):
We had the place for it out wide too. That
would have been that would have been the play.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well had to come up with some tactic, but we
it was just deep, deep, keeping as as you can
straight to the food fallback alloween.

Speaker 12 (20:23):
The other thing is Guttison. Every time he makes a
mistake it's a coach. It's a challenge that he loses.
Can he put them away because they're not working and
they're all in the first twenty minutes of the game,
So you haven't got it later in the game. You know,
had that been a really close game, we might have
needed that. Yeah, in the first twenty kep.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
He keeps blowing our captain's challenges. I mean, has man
you said it on the Heroes of Villains last week.
He keeps blowing them way too early in the game,
and they weren't it wasn't a challengeable one that he
could have got one. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I don't think any of them have been a fifty
to fifty proposition. They've all been just absolute bloody errors.
And he's trying to he's trying to see if maybe
you can get away with that.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Well he's it's like he gets too excited and like
I'm going to go press the button, Press.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
The button, press the button.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Like he doesn't say it, guffa no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Crocatiz is going on. He's a bluddy co captain. What's
he doing?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Has Nate Baishaw says, that's right.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I think he goes into his shell of bit cookie. Unfortunately,
you know, let's Cathy have to say.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I mean, even if it doesn't sort of make the
decision himself that that should be having a bloody chat
to each other.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I think there was one that, as mean, I saw
there was one that he told him the Cookie actually
could see, you know what I mean, and had to
calm and cut Gutho's excitement down, you know. So yeah,
I think he just gets way over excited and thinks
he's right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, he does a little bit all right, and Rob,
seeing as you love talking, I'll give you this one.
Probably a medalist Sandon Smith. It's going to try, in
the shadows of half time to make it twenty points
to six.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
It was Curtains at that point.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, look mate, the way we were going, even the
start of the game, I was seeing alarm bells like
like dass, well, I see, but I thought it was
all over red River, even even when then you know,
down a man ten minutes as well too. I just
never saw us really coming back, to be honest with you,
I mean, you know how you can tell like when

(22:44):
the team comes out and even manly.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
It just felt like we were we were going to
lose even twenty just inconsistency.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
I don't know what it is with our side. I
mean the game you play mainly manly played woe fall
in the first half. Look, I was still one that
we we just we were lucky to still win as
well too so, but then in other games like against
Sous and against the ball Dogs, we had chances to
win it as well too. So I don't get it.
I just don't get it. But I make to answer

(23:15):
your question. I thought we were gone. I really did,
thought we were gone. We don't have and darrens and
answer this question later. We don't have the halves that
have the capability to make something from nothing, to change
a game for us, to get us back into a
game or close the game out. We just we just
don't have it. They don't have it.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, iliasn't flat again and not those types of players.
They just can't. Certainly they haven't showed us and they've
got it in them anyway.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
No, So, and that's that's the problem, you know, like
even if we're down by twelve or whatever, et cetera.
But I don't know, they just don't have it.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I just feel like they don't belong together. I don't
know whether it's just made that's it's similar. It's almost
like there's similar players.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
And they need to.

Speaker 12 (24:05):
Do they need you need a dominant half. Yeah, it's
going to be a game, and ag the other one's
got to be a running half.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
And they're the same play.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
And one looks like the other one. They they just
they struggled to you know what I mean, to be dominant,
to make the dominant move or whatever. It's almost like
they're playing on eight shells or whatever, and they can't,
you know what I mean. And then I don't know
if they've got the capability to be honest with you.
I mean, as you said, tactics whatever, there's no chip
over top. There was no cross doild kick there was

(24:38):
so there was nothing different to just keeping it down
the field. So I thought we're get a strip show
there from young Jesse.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
I was wondering what the hell was going on? Yeah,
for a minute, so.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Jesse there about about said possession in the first half
really gave our defense a bit of a bit. We're
going over. Do you think there was a way back
if we got our fair share of the ball.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
I don't think he's there.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
He left the.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
View seat. There is there is You might want to
run that question again, Jesse.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Right now, Jesse, yep. Take two. So Jesse, rest has
had about seventy possession in the first half. Do you think,
given the amount of defense that we got through, was
they were way back If we got our fair share
of the ball.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
We had to do a lot. We had to change
a lot of what we were doing because I mean,
at times we did have the ball, we were making
mistakes on takawan and you just can't do that. As
I said, there was there was chances out there we
could have scored when we just couldn't hang on of
the ball. When you're trying to get back in the game,
the first thing to do is hang on to the ball,

(26:10):
and we just couldn't do that, which was giving the
russ possession again, and that's why they had the majority
of it. It continued into the second half as well,
and yeah, we were just weren't simply work good enough.
And we're not a team that likes playing catch up football. Yeah,
if a team gets to a fourteen or more lead
point against us, fourteen points or more, we just don't

(26:34):
have the ability to catch up and come from behind
to do it, especially like a team like the Rousters.
They are attainment something we've been speaking about for a
couple of weeks. They have that killer instinct something we
don't have, and when they've got a side down on
the ground, they will just put that killer blow in

(26:55):
you and put that nail in a coffin. That's what
they did to us.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, here's another reason we probably, I probably didn't lose
the game. So Chloe, I'll give you this one. So
sad and Smith's got seen been four minutes in the
second half, and yet we only get one try out
of that. Now, that is simply not good enough considering
the time of the game where we could have scored

(27:23):
some vital points. Now it was Flanno, right, Did we
not have enough ball in the ten minutes to apply
the blow?

Speaker 11 (27:29):
Sorch No, Because you know what, I was there and
I could see flown numerous times, are screaming for.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
The ball, screaming for the ball, and they went the
other way. He give me the book.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
There was an gap numerous times and the player whoever
had the ball did not listen to him, and he
was screaming. It could have been him and final or
whoever that could have scored. But no, they went right
and to the left because there was actually a gap.
That annoyed the shit out of me. Sorry, I know
it's only seven o'clock, but that annoyed.

Speaker 10 (27:59):
Me because I could hear him give me the ball,
give me the.

Speaker 11 (28:02):
Ball, and they did not listen to him. So, yes,
they gave up, and they didn't give enough in that
in that instance.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
The amount of defense that we that we'd had to do,
I don't I don't think we had that much to
really give.

Speaker 10 (28:19):
Yeah, we our defense has improved, however, there was just
little gaps that.

Speaker 13 (28:23):
We they did too much, too much, and I think that, yeah,
they were and that's what I said, That's what I mean.

Speaker 11 (28:32):
Ruster had their positions, they were, they were right in
into it. They gave that all and that's why we
were gassed as well.

Speaker 10 (28:39):
It was three things. It was we didn't The ball
play was just average.

Speaker 11 (28:45):
We had the Brewsters were, you know, their gameplay was,
and the way they had quick balls, some of it
worked some and they were giving trying to give it
to Disco as well, because it was his one hundredth
game as well, so they wanted to disco to a
score as well, and they had more their their power
play would and was better.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
I could say, thank you that has.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Been We don't have an X factor player. We don't
have a player like in the past, like a Chock Mundine.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Or a player get a bloody born enough you can.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Make something from nothing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
We were.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
That was the worst wanted for Triasis. You know what
I mean. We rely on hunt for the X amount
of years to make the play. We don't have that
X factor.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Having said that, I thought Vale Holmes was really good.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
Yeah, of course he looked dangerous at times like he
had a really I'm surprised you didn't get higher on
the points.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
But you know what I mean, That's what I'm saying,
is that one player, when you're down, you're down on
the school board or you've been tackling so much, that
can change the momentum of the game.

Speaker 11 (29:55):
Remember David Cook did that, Jacob Little Yeah, like like
back in the day, Michael Wayman, the who else was there?
Ben Craig, the Dean Youngs, you know we had those
like you know, yes, so I used to know how
to do little banana kicks the bombs.

Speaker 10 (30:14):
You know he would.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
You just answered the question. There's creativity, there's an excerpt
something differently.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Gay management was poor.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Yeah, it's just one way, you know what I mean,
where is that where we're going to go?

Speaker 12 (30:32):
I agree with Keiko though, when those halves, when they
needed to go left, they went right. Yeah, they needed
to go right, they went left.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
It's just it's pitiful.

Speaker 11 (30:42):
Yeah, it's very And then you know, also, I don't know,
no one probably saw in the in the grandstand, but
the roosters and the dragons. There was the dragons, I
mean the roosters, and every time God did something wrong,
they would do the other you know. So it was
a bit of a pissed take with Gatherino.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
It was if I could have had popcorn and it
would be guns blazing, you know, it would.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
And that's why I think Gatherino's.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Little little dance has caused a bit of iffiness with everyone.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, he's not doing it for us.

Speaker 10 (31:21):
I know, but that's what it made like. You should
have seen the roosters doing it to us, the rooster
fans beside me. I was like, you know, they were
taking the piece out of him.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
That's why I gotip for today.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Sorry, I've got some breaking news has men. I don't
know if you want to hear it or breaking news?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Come through this afternoon? So Flanno is surely running out
of patients. Was struggling half back Lachlan Ilias. Even Elias's
manager Bray s Manasta recently conceded on aur All three
sixty that the half back needed to lift a safety
spot in the team. Expect the change for the game

(32:07):
against the West Tigers in Brisbane next weekend. Planning's replacement
options are like in Kintogia or Jonah Glover are too
highly regarded. New South Wells Cup.

Speaker 11 (32:16):
Hearts well Plannagan though its bloody Iliot, It's bloody both
of them.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
But this is what hits me because his name is Flanagin.
He doesn't get to go to New South Wales Cup. Sorry,
but you're the same fuck off and go to New
Cup and then.

Speaker 12 (32:34):
If they're going to do it, they't do both of them.
He's not both yeah, yeah, Glove and LKT have played together.

Speaker 10 (32:43):
So yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
From the old boys, right, old first graders right, and
gossip that Flannagan will go to half back in lk T.
That's what I've heard, so we'll see.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Suspicion if there is, what if he's going to make
it change.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
I mean Donny Bell's nine rounds, we're going to the
ninth round and really and Darren yunis his question later?

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Right?

Speaker 6 (33:08):
But was a ship? I'm sorry with the ship.

Speaker 12 (33:13):
Well, Eliot's is still young though, like he's he's only
what twenty years old and barely played any football.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
So yeah great, not the bagging too much, but reserve
great would do him really good.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Yeah, yeah, he's just good enough.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah he might come good later on in his career,
but at the moment he's.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Just year as well too, isn't he.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
So he's been half back at two big Sydney clubs
and he hasn't delivered in either club. I mean.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
To playing in his last football was reserved grade for
the for the Dogs as a hooker. So he's brought
by his father as a His father made the press
payment as a four team and backup hooker, not as
a six.

Speaker 12 (34:00):
Would play again make the squad on any other NRL team.
I doubt he plays in any.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
Lucky to make option MHM anyway, keep it going as
controversy has.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
He plays to shut up.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
Everybody loves it. They love the bands, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
All right, let's get your son before the team. Yes
he is, that's that. Yes, shut up, we know, we know.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Good lunchy down the crowd to see you right now,
h in Melbourne. You get in Melbourne and dasire wine
and dying you.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I'm not taking up on it.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
So the first tribe in the second half being very
crucial and Ki's forward, Rus's forward Blake Steve falled out
offense to score a one way try and make it
twenty six to six. Three minutes later, Cole Flanagan scored
out wide to give us a slim chance at twenty
eight twelve. Now it's a scene. As you like talking
so much, I'll give you this one. If we settled

(35:17):
down and stayed patient, could we have called this game back?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Not?

Speaker 12 (35:22):
In my opinion, I thought it was gone earlier. It
just felt like the Roosters were in control. Even when
we put a couple of tries on them. They went
up a gear when it mattered. So, oh, it's just
a hard game to watch, very hard game to watch
for me.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah, it was a bit of a bit of a
tough one though Anzac Data seems to be a tough
game for US, say recently, which sort of leads into
the next one, which Coco, I'll throw this one to you.
I think so. James Leesco seems to have a magnificent
strike rate against the Dragons, storing every time he plays

(36:07):
against US. The last three games, the Russes have annihilated
US one forty eight to forty eight. Do they have
the water eyes?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (36:21):
Maybe, but we used to have the hoodoo with camera,
so maybe you know how that one team has the hoodoo.
Maybe they are a hoodoo for ends up date and
we have to try and get through it and beat them.
But last year, in this year, they've absolutely smashed us,
So I think they do at the moment have to
have ends up day over us, and we need to

(36:42):
improve and get better so we can prove that they
don't have it over us.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, we're getting to the point where it's who doing it.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, hopefully we don't lose the next eight
or nine bloody games against him, because you know, as
I said, I'm getting sick of losing to do one
act on Anzac Dad's cost me fortune in schooners. I've
got a regular bed on with the maid of mine.

(37:17):
It's four schooners or a six pack for the game.
So yeah, he's had a lot of beers at my expense.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
A lesson in life from an over fifty fives now
these days. Asked for a start, mate, you want a
thirty points head start, that's what you want.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
He won't give me start.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
He doesn't. He doesn't do starts. His other his other
idea thinking about this one, guys, just to get off
track a little bit, because we love doing that. So
his other idea was instead of instead of the winner
being being score sort of, he was thinking along the

(38:04):
lines of the try differential. So you know, if they
beat us by two tries, I only going to give
him two beers. If seven tries, you's got to buy
me seven beers.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Dangerous.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
He just I decided to were on the side of
caution on that one. I'm glad I did anyway, So
that that was as close as we've got. Yet another
disappointing endsact day performance. Jesse, did the dragons get stage right?
What do we take out of this game? Heading in
the magic round, I.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Don't know if there is something you can take you
out of it, take out of it, which we're very disappointed.
We've got to improve a hell of a lot to
beat the Tigers. I don't know if you saw that
game today that the Tigers and Chucks came, that was
a very high quality game, probably the game of the
season I've seen, went to Golden Point. I was only
decided with a minute to go in Golden Point. We're

(39:02):
gonna have to improve a hell of a lot if
we're going to beat the Tigers at Magic Round Another.
It's gonna be another big game. Every all teams will
be up there next weekend. So yeah, I hope the
stage fraud hasn't crept into them because the big games
we've we've have had in the last couple of years,
we've we've just been smashed every game. So we've got

(39:23):
to be ready for it. And I hope they do
make the trip up there tomorrow, and I'm really acclimatizing
and really prepare because it's a it's a game they
must I think they've got to really win this and
to get their season I sort of back on track,
and just to see that that game on need that
there was just an aberration. But it's gonna have to
be a huge improvement.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, improvement. It doesn't seem to be in Lumigan's repertoire
at this point. So we'll get into some lower grades action.
You're on the May Dragons Podcast, brought to you by
a complete Weight House Solutions. Jesse, you're the lower grades man,
what can you tell us?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Okay? So we've had the new South Whales Cup. They
are back in the winner circle. They had a thirty
six win six to six win over the a frashing
over the Many Seagulls at home at College yesterday with
Rugby seven's convert Nathan Lawson. He was back on the
wing in that game, had a hat trick of tries.

(40:24):
Cody Ramsay made one hundred and sixty four meters at fullback,
while like and Kiktoya continues to impress, having three trisis
as he continues to push for a recall to the
top grade. The Dragons currently sit in fourth place on
the ladder, with a trip to Lidcomb Oval next Sunday
to take on the West Magpies. Jersey fleg were also
at College yesterday. They also had a win over many

(40:46):
not as big though as the New South Wales Cup side.
They had a narrow twenty to fourteen victory with Senat
Charles Heike the hero with the hat trick. And they'll
also had told come over next Sunday to take on
the West Magpies in the Junior reps. We only had
the one team left in the Junior representative season and
it was and it is season over. Unfortunately for the
l R c Elers to Girl Cup side, going down

(41:07):
thirty points to fourteen in the Premium Final at Dudley
Chesham Sports Grand yesterday at the Oaks. They lost that
in the preliminary final. The Roosters coach by former Dragons
aneral w star Keilly Davis.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Actually Jesse read I read three times in your South
Was Cup. The the l KT actually passed the ball
to a player in the gap and that player dropped
the ball or passed the inn nations James player dropped
the ball in a clear position to score a trial,
go on to score a try, you know what I mean.

(41:43):
So that's pretty awesome stuff from m KT. You know
he could add six triss from what I read.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, all right, so.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Using rumors, So the Perth Bears are up their money
and it looks like they will join the NROL competition
ahead of the twenty twenty seventh season. Now, Desert, is
there enough talent going around and is there enough notice
to be all decided? You got players like Lucky Galvin,

(42:21):
the two Ja boy bitches who were actually there on
talent and not for their lame because Ben's absolute, Ben's
absolute rubbish, Tyrone Wish, Jerome Hughes and Payinhas They're all
available from the first of November. Is it great to
seem in Perth?

Speaker 12 (42:37):
Jerome Hughes, Look, I'm really happy we're going to have
a Perth team again. I'll be interested to see if
the Perth Bears work like work. Definitely needed a team
in Perth regardless. But yeah, it's not a lot of
time to build a team, is it. Like when are
they due to come back.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Seven? Jeez?

Speaker 6 (43:01):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
You've got to bring you to have good juniors.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
They're going to start.

Speaker 12 (43:09):
Yeah, like forget starting in the year. They need to
start right now. Trying to pluck players from wherever you can.
Queensland carp Yeah, it's going to be a.

Speaker 15 (43:21):
Lot of He's highlighted well they are going to well
they are going to have a second say second team supporter,
number one supporter and Donny Bell.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Correct, it's actually not Donnie Bell's Donald Bill as well,
to be precise.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Good to have him back then. Yeah, at some way
w A.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Donnie says, right, it sells out and it's the stadium.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Aggest they're not going to play I heard they're not
going to play it off the stadium. They're going to
play it HbF Park. I think that's called the smaller ground.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Yeah. Interesting, But I'm sure Perth will succeed this time.
I mean I'm sure. Just I know you're younger, but
as in has you remember that your Perth team, I
think my team back in the day. Capt uh you
know obviously you fail, but I'm sure it will succeed

(44:20):
this time.

Speaker 12 (44:22):
How does that actually work? Who pays for the teams
to grow over there? It's an expensive.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
The government has for to get them.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah. It must have gone up to to get the
approval from Peter Velandi's to to get this.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
The funding from them yet. But this is a smart
business opera, so you get the most out of the
situation for sure.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Well, it is national if they come in there.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Yeah, I think it's exciting Mane. I think it's good
for Ruby League, Perth trip.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah, I'm just thinking that he.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
Wanted commentated with Donning Bill. He could be the second
commentator commentating there with Andrew Johns and gust Gould or whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
And he started in the Cave podcast.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
We'll know what that, okay, so rob in Now. Latu
has reportedly rejected the Dragons and Knights offers to sign
a three year deal with the Bulldogs as of next season.
Lato is one of the hardest young prospects in the NRL.

(45:46):
Flano was not impressed with how Latu's management handled the negotiations,
and Flanno was eager to keep him. What's your take
on this?

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Such bs from Donning Belle Captain has been was one
hundred percent correct. We should have locked him in from
a long time ago, even last season or even in
the start of this season. We knew how good this
young man is, and even when he's Shane in New
Southwest Cup this season. But we've known, you know what

(46:15):
I mean, and Jesse you've seen especially you know you
watched the low grade. I'm sorry, I'm a big supporter
of you. Flann have been a throe of the Yellower
Mercury and all that. But you stuffed up, mate, You're
stuffed up. Don't make excuses now to play a manager
all that. This young guy's got to five weeks whatever

(46:36):
it is, the you know where he can now negotiate whatever.
I don't blame him if he wants to go to
and get some more money or whatever it is. But
we could have locked him in before. He's always very talented.
He's better than.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Look at him.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Yeah, I mean I watch him lokay and then the
mag give us. I've sat there and watched the reserve
grade match at cog and if you want to pick
two bright stars to the future of the Dragons, those
two boys straight away.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
What we have.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
And Loo as well too. We've signed like it. We've
got Loko right, but we should have signed to as
well too, And it's disappointing. I don't like Flannet coming
out and making excuses and bullshitting and all that. He
could have easily have you know, persuaded him from a
long time ago. So don't come out and excuse the
for each fucking bullshit. Don't make excuses, you stuffed up.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah, no, I agree, So jesse.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
H.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Channel nine have dropped the scheduled Tigers Dragons Magic Round coverage,
which was due to begin at seven forty five next
Saturday night, instead opting to take the three pm Rabbit
Oz Versus Night's clash on Saturday afternoon due to the
election coverage. Now is this is this inconvenient especially for

(48:02):
people who can who can only watch free to wear.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
They would have had this planned in for weeks. I
mean the draw comes out in November December, people plan that,
Oh I'm going to watch the I can watch the
game on Channel nine. It's Saturday night. What they don't
They don't normally show games on a Saturday night. Oh
but no, because under the government's putting on an election
Channel nine is that the hierarchy at Channel nine have decided, oh,

(48:31):
we can't have the football on. We can only put
it on three o'clock in the afternoon when it doesn't
affect the election coverage because they'll be covering all things
election on Saturday night. I mean, what's wrong with having
it on that one of their other channels, like gem
or Go. They could have had it on one of
those channels, not completely. I think that would have been
a better game than the Rabbits and Nights game. That's

(48:52):
going to be a sleep upon that one, I think.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Yeah, Deser, I think you wanted to speak on this,
so I think it was you so getting your get
your guards out and start for it.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Again.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Unlockally atlists have been under pressure all season. Are they
really the Havelves to take us to Finals footy in
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Or no?

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Absolutely Not's still what I've seen.

Speaker 12 (49:22):
I think we sort of touched on it earlier. They
just seem like they're doing a similar role. They're both
trying to be the game management game manager. It feels
like neither one of them wants to take the line on.
It just doesn't seem like a lot of direction happening
with either of them. So I kind of feel like

(49:44):
we need to change. Maybe Ilius needs some time and
reserve grave.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Maybe they're both do What about Gatto at halfback day?

Speaker 3 (49:53):
He's not an organizer?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
You don't think so well?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
And put what's an l k T the fallback you reckon?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Well? Yeah, see, the the.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Problem is at the moment we don't have enough wingers
to bloody cover him.

Speaker 16 (50:11):
No, Lawesome, Wilson's Lawson's not ready, Corey Allen.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Corey Allen's playing well.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Defensing preads that I've seen in you Solls Carp are
actually worse than silly.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
If that's the problem you're worried about all this defense
always running out of the line.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Rob, they did the exact same thing. It's just it's
just coming up out of the line can be a
good thing as long as everyone else is doing it.
But if you're the only bastard doing it, all of
a sudden, there's a try time.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
But that's that's all part of up and in defense,
that's the style of play.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
It was a massive mistake, mate. You go back to
he knew at the time that there was going to
be issues with the man, and I mean obviously got
sacked by dragons. He pushed Bud Salmon out and did want.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
And he knew knew a moment.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
So that's gone.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
So we were already light on in Stock as well too.
He was banking on And I'm sorry to say I'm
a massive supporter of Flannel right. I support her hard
to get him his coach right, because I just thought
Hook was like remember Caker, I said that he was
Hook's best job would be running a funeral as the
guy at the funeral.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
Yeah, but like we're still not producing the goods.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
What I'm saying, Yeah, I want to turn around and say,
you know, I made a mistake. I went hard on
Hunt because I don't like a guy not wanting to
play for our club.

Speaker 13 (52:06):
I'm observing at all and all that, right, Yeah, qualities
quality at the end of the day, and we don't
have it.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
So we've got we've got two guys who were really
reserved grade halves at their best at the moment, trying
to run a team, you know, first grade team. Who
dares I think am I correct in saying they probably
wouldn't make any other NRL team at all.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Anywhere else?

Speaker 6 (52:39):
Half back and Flannel Jr. Is a bloody hooker, back
up hooker, fell half back into other clubs and the
rousters and grena. He's not a fight, you know what
I mean. So I think there's nepotism from his dad
to well Hunt was there. He's a dominant half. So
while Hunt's there, plan can fill a hole. I supposedly
went for Tom did and it was you know, a

(53:02):
you know, it made a big offer or whatever, but
you stayed at North Queensland.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
But that's disappointing. I would have liked to have had him.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
Until we get until you get a real top half
game manager half. We're not going to make the top four.
We're going to make another Grand Final. Big forwards too
many sourad. You can talk about top halves. Ben Hunt's
would degree as well too. I don't think it was
a real game man. He's more an individual, but obviously
a quality play with triass and everything.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
We should go hard for humphrees from South.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
Yeah, big t dern news. I'd be giving him big
T your waterfront houses you can hear me at least
one of them on the other.

Speaker 11 (53:47):
Yeah, the Marina dolbor Way is.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Good Dons in Japan, guys, that's why he's not here.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Yeah, so went to your question.

Speaker 10 (53:54):
He said it has a family.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
As I said last week, he's on a well arned
holiday in Japan with his family and he will be
back next week.

Speaker 10 (54:05):
All right, So you go to your missed say captain,
you're missed.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
He's always he already knows that. I've already told him.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
You're begging to come back, as.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
He asked me once Actually he asked me once. He
said to me, do you think my pregame video is
when I fire up the Dragons? I say it is
too loud, I said, Donnie, you only broke the Channel
nine video sound recording that you did.

Speaker 11 (54:37):
I heard him from the bottom of the hill on
Mullongong when he came Once's he's all the way up
the top.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
And I.

Speaker 6 (54:48):
Spent three cars a game with him, right and I
was watching reserve grade and a quarter of first grade
with him. I've never seen a guy look at every
single thing that happens in the game and be so
stressed out of about everything. The guy lives and breathes it,
bred and white as you say, with the eyes, mate, honestly,
freaking hell. He was so stressed and into it it

(55:12):
was unbelievable. So his passion is incredible, actually passion, Like Donnie,
we would have been the roosters. That's what you need.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Dragon should be in Man Dragon, Donnie Bell should be
in the change room, fire him up.

Speaker 12 (55:29):
Donnie's felt like we needed an angry forward or someone
like McK wayman.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
Like you said earlier, someone like that out there didn't
have it.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yeah, we need some It's on Buddy Red because obviously
Flo is not capital it anyway. So finally, a shout
out to the NRL for the wonderful pregame mansac ceremonies
right across the eight games this weekend, the last post
and the anthems pride to the games so well, one

(56:01):
fantastic job, some forced and unforced changes. Now I'll so
this one to you if you still eggs. Every time
I look around, you gone and.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
It looks like again.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
There there she is, there she is sorry, I'm here
every time I look.

Speaker 10 (56:27):
Very busy. Okay, guys, yes, what is it? What do
you need from me?

Speaker 6 (56:32):
What do you need? Got a good question?

Speaker 4 (56:36):
I got a question for you. So, Hammy Stewart will
be available to play against the Tigers as he's eleven
day concussion protocol stand down finishes tomorrow. Does he force
his way back in?

Speaker 10 (56:51):
Okay? Refreshed me, Mum, what what position can you play?

Speaker 4 (56:55):
It's the middle forward, middle forward, which is what we need.

Speaker 10 (56:59):
Yeah, we could him, encouchment could play well together. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (57:02):
I think I think with like the likes said, look
at Egan, he's come through and he's playing guns. I think,
of course, and I think when he played before. He
was playing very well. I think we've got to give
these young guys a chance, you know, and whatever's in
the water down in Jarrongong, we need that in Loongong guys,
because there's a lot of Jerringong Lions players from there
and they're all playing well.

Speaker 10 (57:23):
So yeah, I hope Stuart plays for us this week.
We need something. We need a miracle the yeah and
someone yeah, you know.

Speaker 11 (57:31):
And also going back to the halves, we've got what
four kickers in our team that can kick like we've
got We've got ilias fun again, Gutho.

Speaker 10 (57:44):
We've got four.

Speaker 11 (57:47):
Why can't they all work together and do each time?
You know, Salad was a great kicker back in the day.
I know Sadia is a probably burning tonight. Sorry guy, sorry,
but you know we've got those kickers. Why can't they
work together and do something fantastic like.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
The storm do or you know, just did could be
big the money there.

Speaker 11 (58:07):
Yeah, do something, do something that we could get that
over the line, you know, just just a bit of
you know, yes, but definitely yeah, sorry daves Go.

Speaker 12 (58:23):
I definitely felt like we were out muscled from the
opening kickoff. I just had the feeling they just had
too much forward power for us and they finished.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
This off out wide.

Speaker 12 (58:34):
And Santa Smith's game management was a Bobby's Bobby's age.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
He's a real gun and he very.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Good imagine and Sam Walker they could have put fifty
sixty the.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Way special and you running up to how hard you
run up?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Spring?

Speaker 5 (58:51):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (58:53):
Yeah, I see it from our thoughts.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Yeah, time for some changes bringing like a please.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
Gen be a Gordon tallis a raging bull?

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Where's the next?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Speaking of which, some unforced changes now, like Otonga Nathan
Lawson and like Kingtoga had standout performances in Uka's Well's Cup,
But Jesse, will that be enough to give any of
them a call up for our trip to Brizzy?

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I honestly don't know. We think differently to Flanno. Flano
flannel season and season every day and watches the train.
I would love to see Loco get a run like
in Kiktoga. I'd like to see them push in. I
think maybe Likean might be the most likely if that

(59:44):
article was true, that Lolize faces the sack and faces
the axe and we'll be serving a couple of weeks.
Maybe in New South whilst cup I'd like to see
give like and King Toga. I'll give him a run
Locos with some impact on the bench, give us some
footwork and give him some experience there and maybe some
go forward as well. That's what we're lacking. Yeah, I

(01:00:06):
would like to see that, but I wouldn't be holding
my breath with he likes to pick the experience over
the youth.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
He's like hook.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Like as a Queenslander, isn't he be sure? I thought
he came from Ipswich Grammar.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
He played New South.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
But originally was he? Okay, I'm thinking of someone else.
I thought he was from Ipswich, was.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
A who was playing of New South Wales as a
junior and played Queensland.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Played junior foot in Queensland. But yeah, he's a New
South flashman.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I mean with the yeligibility was who the hell knows
where he ends up? Ends up?

Speaker 14 (01:00:46):
You might want to play for Toner Well that's true too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Yeah, okay, Well that result is behind us now, let's
let's forget about that. An absolute demolition job from the races.
Yet he where do we go from?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Here?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Is our season at a crossroads? Can we bounce back?
Whereas the old give up mentality of things don't go
our way, crep back in and not turning up in
big games like this. Next week it's another big game
at Magic Round at Suncourt, where we yet to win
a game we have not won at Magic Round. The

(01:01:23):
Tigers came off a great win today, so huge improvement required.
Can we do it hopefully, but a different attitude and
mindset definitely needed. Join us on Tuesday as we preview
the game with Jesse and the host chair alongside Big T, Coco,
Rob and Liam. Although Liam does have a date with

(01:01:43):
the Judiciary so we may not be there, we may
be joined by a special guest Rugby League legend and
ill are a local Gary Jack. Thanks for joining us
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you a very good night. Come on Dragons fans, fire.

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