Bulldog Attacks Helpless Dragon

With Donny still stuck in Brisbane because of the cyclone, Jesse steps up once again to host as the panel look back on our loss to the Bulldogs

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
The story telling the Matt Dragon. That's my mother off
my side. You were four fans. Certain Nutty is duxious
but full the dragon's pride.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
With shy Mer Jess. That is his podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's how we jumped Dragon.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Stop that Dragons, Matt Dragons, that's the way.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Wait, Cary the Mad Dragons trouble Dragon Man's up.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, Good evening all, or welcome to the Mad Dragons podcast. Yeah,
filling in for Donnie this evening, But best wish is
to all Donnie and mother who are doing it tough
at the moment, and all our Dragons fans up there
in Southeast Queensland and all the New South Wales.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
We wish you all the best, all the best.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
With rebuilding your homes and getting your lives back on track.
It's going to be a difficult time coming up as
well as it is now, so wishing you all the
best and hope everything does have a light at the
end of the tunnel for you. So I hope you
are doing all safe as well. So we are here
to review yesterday's lost to the Bulldogs. There was some

(01:44):
promise in the game, had some promising signs. There a
few lapses before and after hard time.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I thought it was the difference.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Between losing that game and then we saw a bit
of a fight back towards in the last twenty minut.
It's Butterford. It was a bit too little, too late
by then. But we'll throw it to a man who
starts us off every Sunday.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
He'll run it through. What his take on the game.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
It's down, you'll get youself.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
You want to do lots out to your front door,
Funny Row like, can you tell us what run that next?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Down? Down zuny r.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Hero's way?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, thanks Jesse, So.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
Round one Heroes and villains gone to the dogs. I'm
pretty sure his last so not quite a stuff, but
that most of us were expecting. I don't think a
Pat Cogger oval Saturday afternoon, a new look spine, so
much positivity coming out of the trials could have been

(03:10):
absolutely perfect. Where did it all go wrong? What is
the crap referee from that idiot redhead Todd Smith? Possibly
was it the touch judges we painted on eyes?

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Also? Possibly more than likely, though it was a lack
of line speed.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
It's a really ordinary defense from the backs and a
forward pack that we would be better described as a
backward pack.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now, I'm not here to do a game report. That's
what we got the show for a few great performances
today and a few equally ordinary ones. Looking at you, Wilius,
But this week's hero has nothing to do with stats
or actual gameplay. Now, Stephen Crichton was up to his
usual grubbery. Christian Tupelodo was awarded a penalty try after
copying a knit of the head and basically what happened

(03:57):
from that, which I reckon you probably have been sent
off as well, but penalty try was rule sufficient. But
too he was a little bit pissed off about that,
and quite rightly so. He's looking for retribution.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
He's he wanted to go after Crichton, and it took
the calm head of Clint Gartherson to quickly usher him
away and stop things getting real ugly, real fast, because
he really wanted to have to go. Now truly a
hero in those circumstances. I think you will all agree
now to the bad guy. And look, I've got to

(04:30):
call out that idiot Dragons fan who threw a pie at.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
One of the Bulldogs supporters. Now we don't do that
ship here. Let's leave that to the professionals. Leave that
to the Bulldogs.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
If you're lucky enough not to get banned from the
ground next time, behave yourself.

Speaker 8 (04:48):
Special Mentions video hash that's the only part they've got video.
Apparently the Bulldog friends through a beer over Dragons fans first.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yeah, I'm sure we'll get to that latter. Now Special
Mention has to go to Crichton for his usual grab bullshit.
You must have earned that from the supporters, I reckon.
So there you go, Jesse. Here is Gutho and the
villain is in fact a random Dragons fan, Stephen Crichton.
And just for the fun of it, I'll truck Todd
Smith in there because he's ship.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Back to ye mate, Yeah, thank you for that, has Man.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And we interrupting me, Yes, And we introduced the rest
of the panel this evening, so we do also have
we have got Coco's just joined us. We've also got
Big Tea, and we've got Liam who will be hearing
throughout the night as well, and as well as HASMI
we just heard from there. But well, yeah, I said,

(05:51):
summing up that game that he thought we're our own
worst enemies. Too many errors in the game. He did
for he did think Hamish Stewart was solid on debut,
just too many lapses in concentration at key times. But
we'll get a bit of a clip of what he
did say and his thoughts on it.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
Okayed the other voting music.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Can you whistle thinking thinking music?

Speaker 9 (06:38):
And Jegarty, Yeah, we beat ourselves too many errors yardage errors.

Speaker 10 (06:51):
Ye just didn't give ourselves a chance just dropping the
ball on kicks and they played two coming out of end.
I think they had three play the ball in their
twenty and the second half just no field position. But
it was you know, we just turned the ball over
when when we get field position and we can play
footage and so we can score tries. But you know,
when you turn the footy over and have areas like

(07:12):
that today sixty eight percent completion rate, you are not
going to mean Is that something that you can fix.

Speaker 9 (07:18):
Yeah, that's what they said to the boys, and well
we can fix that completion rate.

Speaker 10 (07:21):
That's a bit of an attitude and a bit of
a technique type of thing, and we can fix that.
As I said, too many drop walls just in tackles
and so on kick.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
We can fix it.

Speaker 10 (07:34):
So we get up into eighty percent. We're going to
be you know, they're going to be a lot more fatigued.
We're gonna have more opportunities. But it's never had to
play that. You don't not have too many attacking opportunities
on their try on in the second half really hers, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Frustrating thing could be like that last twenty minutes.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
The attack show and what it can do, but just
that first time I just too often.

Speaker 9 (07:53):
Yeah, definitely, I think we show what we can do.

Speaker 11 (07:55):
There's some good combinations across across the field a fuel
eras came from you know, on collision in the months ago.
Those combinations, right, they're going to be quite legal for us.
So we've got to look at the positives. Nine minutes
ago we're almost to try in it with how we
played it low it's an engine given them a lot
of ball.

Speaker 9 (08:11):
So look at a positive said, we're going to look at.

Speaker 11 (08:14):
The issue straight away, knock them on the head and
then and fixman.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Round two.

Speaker 12 (08:20):
America's Cup had a lot of candle attack games and
some big runs as well.

Speaker 9 (08:26):
Well, yeah, they weren't the issue.

Speaker 10 (08:28):
They did a good job. As I said, they're just
out plih errors. You know, I think the first set
we come up with an error in the play. The
ball was just consistent right through the game. Too many
ni Yadi Jerry's we never had field position.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
We beat ourselves.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
How's how's Ryan as.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
A young kid just at the starting in our old
career and such a competitor. Yeah, that's not a great
teams started at.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Tecking.

Speaker 9 (09:06):
Yeah, Dragon bulldogs.

Speaker 10 (09:07):
Don't I affect that, You know, I thought it was
It's a period there that we just gave him opportunity
to attack us, and you should have been better on
a few occasions.

Speaker 9 (09:17):
They scored two trials on last tackles, which you.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
Know we need to be better on better at And
you know, overall, as I said, you know, when I'm
looking at things that, you know, what do we need
to fix up?

Speaker 9 (09:27):
It just stares me in the face.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
And all the sort of errors of error football, none
of our defensive systems or structures, it was just errors.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
Go with football. I can't do it sixty eight percent.
You're not going to do you think it's got a
bit to worry about.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
With job it.

Speaker 9 (09:45):
I didn't look at it was just a quick one.
I didn't see it.

Speaker 10 (09:47):
But you know, he's just making the tackle and get
swung around the back. I don't think you had any intent.
I had well losing potentially as well.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
Looking at potentially m Ray, that's your the true I'm
not looking potentially You're done on one mid all is
that kind of you're gonna have to speak things with no, no, sorry,
Well that that's something for the club to do with it.
And I mean, I'm not I'm here to coach fully
turning like those type of things where I don't know

(10:20):
where it's honest celebration.

Speaker 11 (10:30):
But he's he's someone does bring the energy around the
locker room and he's great to have around the place.
He's always positive and that's what he is. He's a
character of the game and that's why we love him.
It's probably like Beings.

Speaker 8 (10:42):
Has got that decision.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
Yeah, he came in business and the needs come in
contact with the ball, so you know he's got to
come in with definitely not his knees. I thought, yeah,
obviously he did lose it, but his knees come in
contact with the ball. So I think it was an
easy decision in the end.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
If you had the chance before the game towards reserve
Greade Cory Rams, he had a couple.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Of huge involvements, trollsides scored, a couple of tries.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Hows is that.

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Everything he's been through?

Speaker 9 (11:14):
Yeah, but that is a fantastic story.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
You know what he's been through, you know, a year
in hospital, multiple surgeries, infection after infection, and to come
back and to be able to.

Speaker 9 (11:28):
Play New South.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I was ada.

Speaker 9 (11:30):
He's just recrded to how hard he works.

Speaker 13 (11:33):
But he's a long way.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
There's a lot of stuff that you don't.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
See that goes on out there.

Speaker 10 (11:38):
You know, his food and you know intake, impood, intake,
his energy levels obviously because the food intake is think.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
So there's a lot of a complex starm situation.

Speaker 10 (11:48):
But you know, if he got back down, everyone should
stand up and apport because that would.

Speaker 9 (11:53):
Be a youtue Efer. What did you Staymoss?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Good?

Speaker 9 (11:58):
Yeah, he went to the game we had on there.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
But you know, I probably shouldn't have been putt in
that position, but I thought he went after it. And
you know, he's going to be a long term first grader,
So he's got some skill and it's your big body to.

Speaker 11 (12:11):
Rather drop ballswards the other A few options he's lost there.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
Do you think he came into play.

Speaker 10 (12:16):
Yeah, because of the areas we had earlier turn the
ball over too much, I had to make too early.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
We made pick sixty. Bulldogs just did a job on
us because of what we did to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
All right, there was there and now co captain Damien
Cook Coka.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
You were at the game. What was your take on it,
on the.

Speaker 14 (12:45):
Game or the players the game?

Speaker 15 (12:49):
Well, I know we lost, but it was such it
was I felt it didn't feel like round one. It
felt like it was like a semi final and it
was just like it was. I couldn't believe. It was
just on the hill where I was like, I was screaming.
Then there was another lady screaming and she was a
Bulldogs like like supporter.

Speaker 14 (13:09):
It was really fun. We were just banting each other.
I loved it.

Speaker 15 (13:13):
I think some crucial moments in the second half would
have been like, you know, kicks and you know, holding
Matt Fein.

Speaker 14 (13:20):
I could have held the ball in the last few seconds.
But you know, other than that, it was a close game.
Yes we came back. Yes it was eight points.

Speaker 15 (13:28):
The critics will hate me because I'm being positive, but
look at the game today. It was like abysmal look
at the Cowboys and look at the Eels. We're not
as bad as them. We are not as bad as them.
We have a lot to come and look at New
South past cup. There are players coming up, and I
would like to ask mister Tea, what did you think

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of the game yesterday?

Speaker 8 (13:51):
I though we played well in past We played the
first twenty minutes, we played well, and then forty minutes
in the middle we went missing. We learn in some
soft tries, some soft soft tries. Yeah that the first
trial was very soft. Statility be newer tries were soft.
We're gonna put your body on the line. Yeah, but

(14:15):
all that back all that back five ran over one
hundred meters, so you can't ask for more for the fours,
I chose for my friend to one million tackles. Yeah,
like it was. I thought of the good game. We
just missed that middle, the last twenty or the last
fifteen in the first half, of the first fifteen, in

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the second half.

Speaker 16 (14:40):
Yes, Liam, I was gonna say, I don't then play
as as the Roosters did this way as well, but
I forgot dimension as well.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
Yeah, yeap, luxuly.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
We we just had before just before the.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We had the the It's Player of the Player of
the Year voting and the top three voted by the
panelful round one for twenty twenty five. So we had
three points go to Christian Tour Plot two, two to
Toby Couchman, and one to Jack Debellin. Now, has me
talked us through the performance of Christian Tour Plot?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Mute?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 14 (15:31):
Didn't even know it was having a conversation. What did
you want to say? What did you say?

Speaker 8 (15:34):
I was linked?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (15:36):
No, made? Oh sorry, but that I'll go back to mute.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
Then for me and I don't know, don't you don't
you bloody god mute, no, bloody hear from you again?
Oh well, take out the three prizes is obviously fantastic effort.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
But look, he ran, He ran high.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yards, you know, very you know, he's a powerful, powerful guy.
Made one hundred and twenty thousand meters. I think I
was except.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Seven, I think seventy six.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
There is only that much.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I thought I was more than that.

Speaker 8 (16:22):
Super Men one around players.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, yeah, one seventy six.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Running meets three line breaks, which is three more than
we usually make in a game.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
So that's good.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
We did actually have a.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
We have three five about six or seven line breaks,
which is unusual, but No. Two a lot of I
think did enough to to probably keep his spot. The
he's made on the other side. However, he really should
be looking over his shoulder because that was a very

(17:00):
very average performance from he was he was.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Targeted all night, He had nowhere to go, he was
tied all night.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Well you can you can blame the forwards for that,
for not putting enough fucking pressure on on Burton. They
gave Burton all the time in the world to put
those kicks up. That that's what happens, is exactly what
they did last year.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, big t two points went to Toby Couchman. Mammothat
from him seventy minutes and one on side. Forty seven tackles, whopping,
forty seven tackles. Talk us through Toby's performance.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
Thirty six post contact the only miss too. So forty
seven tackles is phenomenal for a middle forward playing seventy minutes,
you know, like that's that's he's playing more minutes than
pay House.

Speaker 17 (17:59):
So yeah, great effort, great effort from Tavy Countsman pretty
bead his brother, but yeah, I think he picked up
Tyby picked up the slightly.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeah, great effort, great effort.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
And one point went to Jack Debellon.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now, Coco, give us your thoughts on Jack Debellin's game
last yesterday.

Speaker 14 (18:24):
Well, I didn't. I didn't give him a point. So
that's my honest opinion. What I what I saw. I
thought he did well. Yeah, I think I think they
all he played very well.

Speaker 15 (18:35):
There's some some moments in the game he did might
pass it well, you know, you know, I'm just gonna
say it because we're doing this the PI. I just
want to say that it was really hard. You said
to actually pick my top three, like the two and one.
I was like, oh, which one I should choose? But
it would It's that's what I likes, to make it
difficult for us to pick our three two ones and yeah.

(18:58):
So and also there was a comment in this thing
about me waking up about oh, it's not better than
my todd whatever your name is. I'm allowed to have
an opinion about the team. Yeah, I said what I said,
And don't get upset, missed up. I'm just saying that
round one and it's not round twenty five, and we're
going to improve because we've got good new South Wales

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Cup players that will come in and help the team.
So I will not wake up Australia. I will be
saying what I said, So be up, be keep enjoying
your viewing.

Speaker 14 (19:29):
Back to you, Captain Jesse, thank you.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
For that, Coco.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
So we had we had other votes who were very
close on getting polling points. We had votes for Jacob Little,
the debutante, Hamish Stewart, Moses Sully and Valentine Holmes and
you recruit HASMI and I just saw in the comments
Jacob Little from you, he really turned the game on,

(19:55):
it said when he came on, didn't he.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Yeah, he's a fair on. The game was immediate when
he when he came on, all of a sudden we
had we had go for were causing issues. We had
a little bit of speed. Finally, I mean you have
a look at that that try that he scored himself.
No way in hell Damian Cook scores that. He gets

(20:20):
He gets run down probably twenty meters out.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
But he's a spinner.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Old Damian Cook would have done it.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I don't think Damian Cook would have got there that quick. Yeah,
I reckon comment, yeah comment.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
Somebody was staying somebody was staying start with Cook being
a little alone with ten minutes ago in the first
half mid Cook back to Locke. That's what I think
that at work.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I'd look at him bringing very close to halftime, like
when when the four wards are tide, I mean not enough.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I will do that this week.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
But there is talk that he was coming back from
an injury too, so that could that could be a point.
But we'll see how that plays out this week when
they when they named the tender takes outs.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Can I next card to say something, Jess, Yeah, there
is lots of Cardie Cardy in but he's not ready.
He's not available for the team coming in the first
grade side, so he's not in the squad. So maybe
next year, let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
As Flanner said, he's got a long way to go
before he plays n r L, He's got a long
way to go. Another player that kept I was close
to polling points yes, has mean yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
So just getting back to the point of.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Of Cook going off and a little coming on for
ten minutes, I get the horrible feeling.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I actually said that.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
During the during the preseason when we're picking our best
seventeen I think I did actually.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Say that that was probably the way to go. Well, yes,
the Agent film, you are the back deal with confidence
and to be honest.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yep, pretty fair.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
The next player that was very close to polling point
was there the debutante Hami Stewart. Liam, you're the only
panelist that had Hamie Stewart in your best seventeen before
the preseason. How do you think he went on debut?

Speaker 16 (22:33):
I think he did all right. I think well, I've
seen from him yesterday playing I think he looked right
on in the first grade team, playing off the bench.
I reckon we'll see more of him in the coming year.
I reckon he's the man in himself in the to
come off the bench for now and then the more

(22:55):
the more games he gets under his belt, I would
not be surprised if he gets selected the front on thirteen.
I've got really big raps on the kid.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Mm hmman.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I was impressed with him as well, and he says
he's a long term first grader. And the last of
the ones who come very close to being on that
podium was was and you recruit Valentine Holmes big T.
What are your thorts on Vale Holmes's first game in
the Red Meat.

Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, he didn't make a couple of errors, but I
thought all at all, he played well on the left hand.
So that's sweeping with two players scored three try so
he's done well on that side. He's kicking, could have
done with a bit of training. But I thought that,
I thought. I thought Homes had a good game. Yeah yeah,

(23:51):
I went close to getting my one point, so yeah, yeah,
a good game.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Well, anyway, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
So that one is yeah, that's our players, the U votes,
and we'll go through that again next week. We'll get
into some points in the game. The first twenty minutes was,
as Big T said earlier, it looked promising when the
Bulldogs called first through Marcela Montoya and then Christian Toolblots

(24:21):
called soon after. Were you liking what we were doing it?
And it was only close, but Big has me at
six or four, were you liking what we were doing
at that stage in the game.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Look the fact that we were staying with the Bulldogs
for for as long as we did, I was. I
was definitely happy about that. It was good to see
a lot of get a get a hat trick, not
particularly impressed with his post try celebration, but I'm sure
we'll discuss that at length. No, it was good to

(24:55):
see it's actually been in front of the bulldogs for
once before. We we can completely believe that up.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, now, Liam, you're our you're our referees expert. Had
this question come through, so you might be able to
help us out with this one.

Speaker 16 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
This so the Stephen Crichton that the Christian Talk a
lot two penalty try in regards to that, can a
player be sent off for a penalty try for example?
So that penalty try that where Stephen Crichton led with
his knees that made the contact with the head of

(25:35):
Christian Talk Lot two and he not he.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Did not attempt to make a tackle.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
He was put on report and the penalty try was given,
yet he didn't get put in the bin. That's a
question from a viewer, Nathan Taylor. So take take us
through that should should have been sent.

Speaker 16 (25:56):
Sent off? No, but thing being yes because it's a
deliberate act in foul play for when when I try
or point is being scored. So technically being put on
report was correct and he should have been simping and

(26:18):
also should have been eight point tried because it was
deliberate foul play. Well, there was a scoring act in
the that was happening at the same time, so technically
he should have been in the beginning to ten as well.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yep, not fair cool.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Well, what you're saying is it to he got it wrong,
Yes he did.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
Now the guy in the banker got it wrong.

Speaker 16 (26:47):
Well, all the referees that they got it wrong.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
It was then deliberate.

Speaker 16 (26:52):
Yeah, it was a deliberate who's in the Bucker Grant acts?

Speaker 5 (26:57):
I think yeah, that'd be bloody right.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well, this is what Donnie said on this one. It
is a very confusing rule. You can be sent off
a foul play and get a penalty try awarded, but
you cannot be sin bin for a professional foul and
be awarded a penalty try.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
It's one or the other.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You never used to be able to sin be in
players for foul play, but now you can be sent
to the sin bin for power play.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
And here is the fun bit.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
There is nothing in the rule book that says whether
you can or cannot be in the syn bin for
power play and be awarded a penalty try. I believe
the NRL lean on rule too for foul play and
a professional foul. But it is not clear, well they
got you didn't, didn't get suspended, only has to pay

(27:48):
a fine.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Did You can't actually name in the head or the ball.

Speaker 16 (27:56):
Contacted the head? So I also add eyes if Stephen
Crchton knocked out Christmas Plate, we've definitely been a sender.
But in that in that case there was no Kristen

(28:19):
was fine to play on even before he got kneed
in the head. Was should have been a only eight
point dry and Krighten skin ben and it should have
been at least a match all too much suspension.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, Crichton didn't
get his knees in the way gets that ball down anyway.

Speaker 16 (28:41):
Yeah, So technically Todd Smith and the rest of the
records that day completely sucked it up.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
It must be the same as leading with your feet,
is it?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
So?

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Leaving with you how Billy started used to always slide
him with his feet That got outlawed and so you
couldn't kick the ball out of the player's hand. So
maybe these the same same extension of the body.

Speaker 16 (29:06):
Yeah, definitely. So the rules need to be a trusted
So if Ramon Ansley talks about tomorrow, there's going to
be a lot of questions from the reporters about it.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Apparently he's not doing that week by week review this year.
I've heard very manestly.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Yeah, I would not be That's why I heard that too.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah, because it's probably sick of.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
Every week.

Speaker 16 (29:34):
Yeah, he needs to be sucking.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
You may have been.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
All right, yep, okay, you you were at the game.
We were tested for a little while. When we lost
Ryan Couchman to that it's it was distressing for him
to go off with that a c L injury, and
then we lost Jack the Bell with Hia. What were

(30:05):
you feeling there, We may struggle with just fifteen players
available at that current stage of the game, when when
it was very close close.

Speaker 15 (30:14):
Yeah, I actually have to admit I thought that it
was Toby going off and I said, oh no, he
just got to play. When I found out with Ryan,
I was still like, oh no, And then I was
fearful for in case you know the twin thing, you know,
in case like twins get like double, like Ryan will
get an injury, then Toby will get an injury, and
We'm like, I just want to see these guys play.

Speaker 14 (30:34):
I was worried about the way we played, losing players
on the field and things like that.

Speaker 15 (30:39):
So you know what annoys me about it if we
do lose plays the way they go back to simple footy,
but then they don't pass it.

Speaker 14 (30:46):
At times on that field, I saw them just chucking
it because they wanted to chuck it.

Speaker 16 (30:50):
You know.

Speaker 15 (30:52):
It was not like pass the ball or hold the ball,
which is so infuriating when you're trying to play the game.
And I know I'm not no footballer. I'm not a
football person. I'm a football person, but I'm not I
don't play footy, so I'm not having to go. It's
just the way, you know, if you understand what I'm
trying to say, Jesse, it was really hard to see

(31:16):
them play if we Yeah, that's timing to say thank
you of your tears.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
All right.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
How shattering was it to lose a player like Royan
catcheran who hasn't had a lot of first grade and
this was could have been his breakout.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
You has me, Yeah, you never like to see that
sort of injury, regardless of who it is. And you
spat especially by Donnie as being a regular first grader,
this year, and I'm pretty sure most of us had
had him in their in their top seventy.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
It's it's you never like seeing that sort of thing.
You got to you gotta feel for him.

Speaker 18 (32:00):
But I reckon, you'll you'll come back, you recover, You'll yeah,
you'll go, you'll come back, and then you'll you'll just
you'll pick up right where.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
You left off.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, hopefully we see him back in twenty twenty six
round ago, and we wish him all the best trees recovery.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yes, big t.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
I was just going to say with a cl injuries,
there has been an awful lot of ACL every injuries
over the last five to ten years, would you agree,
Mm hmm, Yeah, I'll put it down to the boots.
I put it down to the boots. The boots have
got too much grip. Remember back in my day play

(32:40):
and I had six stubs in my boots. My feet
are ripped out of the ground all the time. Now
with all these special design boots. Now, now there's all
these special design boots. They dig into the ground, dig
into the ground, and your boot doesn't give one of
the one of your joints give, So do your ankle
or your knee. Um, because the boots are so high

(33:03):
tech these days and stick in the ground too much.
That's my thoughts. Anyway, anyone agrees with me, let me.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Know, Um, I tell you a great big T, especially
when that's raining.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
M they still by the boots. Yeah, you need six studs,
four in the front, two at the back, actually three
at the back.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Let's go. Let's go, all right, big T. Continue on
when the Dogs started to get away from us.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
At sixteen to six at halftime, when we were leading
six to four, were you freaking this game?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
We get away from us there?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
At that stage where we started to clock off at
six four, there was a lot of talk we should
have taken the two because the Dog scored off the
next set at six four?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Would you have taken the two right in front?

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Well, it's not normally a thing you do, Like, we'll
take the two. What's the difference between two points ahead
and four points ahead? You know what I mean? Like,
if you want to go ahead, you go ahead, but
go head by eight or fourteen, not by an extra two. Yeah,
if you have a Wayne Bennett team, you take the two.

(34:19):
But we're not a Wayne Minute team anymore. We're a
showing Flanagan team and we chose to play on. That's
what we've got to chieve, that's what we've got to
live with, you know. That's what happened. And they did
score some soft tries. Our defense was pretty good most
of the most of the half, and then just two
soft tries and they just went bang bang, we're ahead
sixteen six.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah got it? Yeah, yes, has me.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
I'm gonna wonder who the hell is coaching the wingers
and the centers to bloody rushing like that. So many
tries last year was scored against us because of that,
and there was at least two tries, Yes, they did.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Sack's the same thing. Who the hell's teaching him this?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I don't know. Matt Feener let two of them in.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah, the slag was ready, it wouldn't have been there.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Yeah, and then the next was you We could have
asked him. Yes.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
The score eventually blew out the twenty eight six that
the satility chip in you. He was a handful the
new bulldogs of shrit Lame. Didn't he come on and
make an impact and he destroyed us?

Speaker 16 (35:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:36):
He did.

Speaker 16 (35:37):
He so still the Roasters, I don't know why the
rosters go. They should have kept him because they look
at their forwards. Their forwards are pretty much like they
got like no forwards in the Bulldogs. They're pretty much
almost the whole rosters filled the forwards. So I reckon

(35:59):
he good pick up for the Bulldogs, a huge loss
for the Roosters.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, yep, and we saw.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
When we saw, we saw, we saw come on with
about twenty five minutes half an hour ago. Coco, what
are your thoughts on the the Jacob little solo try?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Wasn't that remarkable?

Speaker 14 (36:29):
Well, it's time at seven? It was fucking amazing. I
was that's what we need.

Speaker 15 (36:33):
We need something like a quick try like that, like
don't we want to see that we want and that
oh you know? I was ecstatic And yep, that's the
way they should be, playing through the middle and running quick.

Speaker 14 (36:51):
See.

Speaker 15 (36:52):
The thing that I need to say is to the players,
we need to like because there a few times even
with Goo, they all they need someone to bought them
by running. Everyone just left him in the dirt, Like
what do you think got tackled? They have to come
at least one person. Is it like someone fastest, you know,
homes and gather or someone.

Speaker 14 (37:10):
But it was what we needed.

Speaker 15 (37:12):
It was a magical day. That was a magical time.
Oh I could have had a heart attack yesterday. Four
times in that game, you know it was.

Speaker 16 (37:21):
I loved it.

Speaker 14 (37:22):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Back to you, Jesse, Yes has been Flanner highlighted in
that press conference that we were our own worst enemies.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Lots of errors in that game.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
It's a complete change. You think it could have been
a different story, So here to break it up with
it there, mate, Do you think it would have been
a different story had we had a better completion rate and.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Played for the full eighty minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, when you.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Know, you can't score if you haven't got the ball.
So yeah, that question pretty much pretty much chances itself.
Maybe it would have made it enough of a difference,
Maybe it wouldn't have. But yeah, look, I think the
thing that killed us more than anything was the complete
lack of a game manager. Yeah, Flanagan's not a game manager,

(38:23):
and it's become pretty clear that Ilius isn't either. That's
probably the one thing that we do lack. Yeah, I mean,
watching Ilius kick the way he did yesterday, I mean
it might as well have been ben Hart. It was
basically just bomb, bom bomb, bom bomb.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I've had a lot of South messages from South's fans
and they're laughing at us.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
They are laughing at us, Bloody.

Speaker 14 (38:50):
Then what is the deal?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
They didn't want him, but I.

Speaker 14 (38:56):
Didn't give a shit.

Speaker 15 (38:57):
You know what, he bloody bread broak his second leg
last year and he had eight fucking games with them,
and you know what, he didn't.

Speaker 14 (39:05):
He doesn't have to be laughed at. It's round one.

Speaker 15 (39:09):
Stop the ship, and I don't care. Everyone can come
at me. I don't give a ship. But I'm just
saying it is hard enough being half. It's hard enough
these guys coming back into a new club.

Speaker 16 (39:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (39:18):
I might be battering on, maybe sugar coating it, but
the South should calm down. And yeah, I think they
should just be what because the only reason why they
didn't want him was because he broke his leg and
he might not be able to like kick and stuff.
Yeah he did kick the wall straight to Matt Burton.
So did half the fucking players or other teams give

(39:41):
the kid a go? This is what I hate about
this this ship.

Speaker 14 (39:44):
We give it.

Speaker 15 (39:45):
We hack and hack and hack, give him a break.
It's round bloody one. And that's my rant for the day.

Speaker 16 (39:55):
Finish.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Ok, that's probably your third round tonight.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
That's what people love.

Speaker 16 (40:07):
Yeah, I don't know, I tell you guys.

Speaker 14 (40:12):
Yeah wait.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Next week either.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Anyway, ye specially.

Speaker 16 (40:30):
I was going to say, we go a good young
half back playing in well, he hasn't played his reserve
his first reserve game yet for the year, but we
do have a good young full not half back coming
through and k I would not be surprised towards the
end of the year he gets selected to play in
the half back spot and calm planking on the bench

(40:56):
or look kid red.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
Red.

Speaker 16 (41:05):
Yeah, he did impress me in the try. He did
so I would not be surprised if he gets judging
the half back towards the end of the year.

Speaker 8 (41:13):
I agree with I agree with Robert here, six or
seven games for new combination, four games you gotta throw
that's right, exactly right, hold new spine, let's carry on.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
But what I will say is when we were down
twenty eight six, Guffer was absolutely getting up them and
that's what you need, that's what you need. He was
telling them, what what do you got to do? What
he was trying to fire up the boys I didn't
not once did I see our former like that's what
he was, a ref of fresh air.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Guffer.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
There was a lot of comments today that why the
hell did we buy him? As Donnie has said before,
whoever saying those comments pulled your heads in, That's exactly right.
I don't know if Tyrol Slan would have done much better,

(42:13):
so yeah, if he may have missed more tackles. If
and to our credit, as someone said in the chat
last last night during their game, we lost that corresponding
game last year twenty eight ten, and we had that
ex captain there. Now we don't have him anymore and
we're only lost by it eventually. Yeah and yeah, now

(42:38):
Big tea a lot of a lot of social media
that's been on all the media outlets today. Christian Chaupeloso's
try celebration the money Man.

Speaker 16 (42:48):
I love celebration in a rich man's world.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
I absolutely loved it. I loved it the way he
is cashing the money in. It's just the celebration people.
It's the same as It's the same as Wendell Sailor
plan that did you we do. It's the same as
the bowlie one that Canberra did use and years ago.
It's the same. It's just it's just the post try

(43:15):
celebration and he was cashing in the money. You might
have made a hat trick on sports bet, you know,
for him to score a try cashing in the money
in the money. I absolutely loved it, absolutely fantastic. These
people that said that, these people didn't like it, they
can go stick it up there. Crack crack, that's right, that's.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Right now, it on the head.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
Well, yeah, look at him now, terrible today.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
One of the wiggers was.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Did you play, saying, huh, the twenty seventh best there
in the competition.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
I'm not sure he actually played.

Speaker 8 (44:06):
At the game.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
He touched the ball twice three times.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
Very ordinary, he.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Regretting the move.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
Now you've gone through that, to b we've gone through that.
Thank you. I've got a question that's.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Come for you through, come through for you, Coco. You
were at the game, so I had this comment come
from a fan. I'll tell you what though, mate, we
needed you in the crowd. Every Saint George's chant that
went up only in the first half got overtaken by
Bulldogs chance three times loud on the hill, but even

(44:42):
the crowd got outplayed.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Dragons be bulldogs fans. What was happening there Cocoa.

Speaker 15 (44:47):
Well, well, it was dead silent. Really, Like I said,
I was on the hill. I had to stand up.
And it was only the start. And yes, I thought
heard the drums. So when I the drum, I kept
going dragons when the bulldog said bulldogs. And you know what,
it was a really good atmosphere. But like I said,

(45:08):
the army only when we were winning. When they started
to do it, I lost my voice at twenty minute
at the twenty minute market and I was like, I
was screaming and this lady, like I said, I don't
know her name, but she was absolutely phenomenal and she
was great with me.

Speaker 14 (45:22):
We were two, just like fancy. And you know what,
that's what I like about footy.

Speaker 16 (45:27):
You go to the footy.

Speaker 14 (45:28):
You can banter what happens at the footy for eighty
minutes and you need to be in that army.

Speaker 15 (45:33):
I am the army today because I was yelling, screaming,
making sure they heard me because it was dead silent,
and that's not what you want at the footy.

Speaker 14 (45:42):
You want to be out there. If you lose your voice,
you lose your voice. That is passion.

Speaker 15 (45:48):
Because I heard that it was Bulldogs exactly was our
home game and all I heard was Bulldogs. So I
aarked up and I was like, no, I'm going to
do it if I look like a gooseer, look but not.
It was only when we started winning the first half.
Was when every even like the announcement announces, you.

Speaker 14 (46:07):
Know, and that's what happens.

Speaker 16 (46:10):
So yeah, maybe we should.

Speaker 14 (46:14):
Happen, mister p J.

Speaker 16 (46:18):
You know.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
So, yeah, up a good point.

Speaker 12 (46:21):
Then remember those horns I used to bring into the ground.
I used to hear them all the game, all the time. Yes,
they don't let them into grounds anymore.

Speaker 14 (46:36):
I used to have one for the basketball. It was
a good horn. It was like I loved it.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
Maybe we need our own drum man. We need someone
to take a drum. Come on, let's go. Someone taken
the Yeah, yeah, you see the Did you see the
Raiders guy that blew the horn in Los Angeles out

(47:04):
of the stadium being too drunk. Yeah, that's right, one
of the Vegas, the Las Vegas raidst players, it was.
And he's blood on the horn and he got kicked
out of the stadium. Two of the two of their
players got caught fighting in the lobby. Raiders are all sorts.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Now, So the.

Speaker 7 (47:28):
Raiders are greatest fans are absolute dead shits over here
him there, greatest fans are dead shots are over in
there as well.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
Yeah, that's exactly right, exactly right.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Anyway, we'll get into something that that we don't like
to talk about. Well, we will discuss it anyway. That
happened off the field during the game yesterday. But it's
taken a lot of attention.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, we never like to see. But we'll
get into it in just a moment. While I bring
that up, continue the talk.

Speaker 8 (48:04):
Guys, do do you? He was talking about. Guys, my god,
you need to band pies. See Victoria's in Victoria, they
band machees. I think we need to band pies. Band
pies at the footy mm hmm.

Speaker 14 (48:26):
I love.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
I want that one.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I want.

Speaker 9 (48:34):
So yeah, I want that one.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (48:52):
I was right there when that happened.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yep, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
As Men said during during his Heroes and Villa's segment,
when we're Dragons fans, we don't do that short of shit,
we don't.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
We don't stoop to their level. As he said, leave
that to the Bulldogs.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
Fans.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, if that person gets lucky to get to another.

Speaker 15 (49:19):
Game, him energy Jesse, Jesse, I'm so sorry to interrupt you,
but we're giving this flop, this wanka who. It's such
disrespect and the dragons are not like the dragons. Fans
are not like this. So we're not like that moron
who disrespected someone over a bloody eight dollar pie.

Speaker 14 (49:37):
Why would you even waste an eight dollar.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Pie for instance, you know, waste money as well?

Speaker 14 (49:43):
My fourth rent today, you.

Speaker 15 (49:44):
Know, yes, you know those bulldogs, like those bulldogs, supporters
get hacked on enough.

Speaker 14 (49:51):
But we our behavior has just escalated.

Speaker 15 (49:55):
And now this flop gets fifteen minutes of click faith
and now we're talking about it.

Speaker 14 (49:59):
He doesn't even deserve that. He is disgusting. That's some
disrespectful behavior. No, I'd rather talk about something positive like
fancy plate.

Speaker 15 (50:09):
Yeah, No, I would not throw any I would tell
them like I was there and I could see something escalating.
I was about two hundred meters and that guy and
something happened. I don't know what happened previous. But still
you go to the footy and be nice to one another. Yeah,
have a bit of banter, have a bit, have a
cold one, sit down and have a chat. Don't be

(50:30):
disrespectful and throw shit at each other. That's just pictured behavior.

Speaker 14 (50:34):
Shameful.

Speaker 15 (50:35):
You are shameful, and I hope you're laughing at yourself,
you flick bait winker because you're not one of the Dragons.

Speaker 14 (50:42):
You're a winker. Wake up to yourself.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
I'm gonna leave it on this year because Coco is
on fire to night. Anyway, Let's move on. Yes, let's
move on.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yes, as Coke said, we don't want to talk about
that one too much. But yeah, I'm not sure Ian
Johnson said they did they catch them or the Dragons
did release a statement earlier today in regards to that,
But the Dragons are not condoning that sort of behavior
at the club. So and yeah, we shouldn't be fearing

(51:18):
throughout safety watching a game of football.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
No, no, anyway, But.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
How good to see Cody Ramsey back in action again?

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yesterday?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Shane Flannagan highlighted that in the press conference, how good
was it liam to see Cody Ramsey back on the
fields as he continues he steps towards recovery again.

Speaker 16 (51:43):
I reckon it was really good scene back on the
field A day he was out for two years with
the chronic illness. I will not be surprised by the
end of this year or early next year he will
get selected to play in our first great team again.
But won the wing.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Yep. Yeah, and as man.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
There's been a lot of talk about Tyrol Sloan. He
it was a typical Tyro Sloan performance. He had a
few mistackles but scored a couple of tries. There's been
talk that he should come back into the team. What
did you make of Tyrol Sloane's performance in New zup
Well's Cup yesterday.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
I saw enough of.

Speaker 7 (52:30):
Him to think that he is definitely, definitely in for
a spot this week. I don't think I think the
nation will played first grade again. The way he's way
he played Slange gives us that sort of he gives
us pace. B He gives us that sort of heads
up creativity that we seem to be lacking in the has.

(52:53):
So maybe he gets the ball and does something himself. Yeah,
he's got some creativity. So got those sort of weapons using.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
Mhmm. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Now, Now, an article that was released today that the
Frank Moller situation has escalated once again.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Big t.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
The Dragons are refusing to play Frank molo Hay now
that he's.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Sick leave is up? Do you applaud the club for this?

Speaker 16 (53:29):
What?

Speaker 4 (53:30):
What are you your take on it? It's still a
gray area. Flanno doesn't want to talk about it too much.
Go on.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
It's It's a sticky situation, isn't it. The players come
to the club saying I'm suffering mental illness.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I'm not.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
I'm not down in mental illness at all. But like,
he's run out of sick leave. What are the what
of the club space?

Speaker 15 (53:52):
Do they?

Speaker 8 (53:53):
They actually paid him advanced at the end of last
year to to finish extent on his house and like,
and he's asking for more money. It's a it's a
sticky one for the club to deal with. It's a
mental health problem on one side where he was I
don't know how what it was. Was he ridiculed, was

(54:13):
he said something was said to him as a function
and he's running out of sick leave. But it's a
sticky it's a sticky sicking. I wouldn't like to call it.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Anyone else to take on it, Scoop was leam you
were you wanted to talk about a bit earlier in
the show. What what's your take on the situation at
the moment? Are the club doing the right thing? It
is a legal I think it's a legal technicality.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
What is your take on it?

Speaker 16 (54:43):
I'm comforssing on the fence, Jersey, But can can the
drugs just freaking cut ties with this player and just
move on? Some of the media brushing the club and
bushing Frank Malo It's only going to get worse. I
see he drags on. Can we just cut him loose? Now?

(55:04):
Just give him what he wants so we can bring
clamoring because apparently there has been reports that they Clember
is signed seldom that delivered. We just got to weigh
on what the heck happens with Frank Marlow or if
I'm gonna sha dragons board and just shame playing again.

(55:25):
Just can't taste of Frank Marlow and his bloody move on,
will you?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Well, yeah, there's two sides of the story to look
at it too, Like he's run out of sick leave. Yeah, well,
the dragons are in the right not to pain but
and he's not doing his job, so what are the
dragons painting for? But then if he does have a
mental illness and he's sick.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
It is a tough one to comment on. Yeah, but
he does want to get on with his life as well.
So and that's what he's management have said as well.
So they was talking that Claimer could be signed as
early as this week because he was due to play
Reserve News Cup for the Tigers yesterday.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
But he withdrew from that.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, okay, so yeah, it's going to be interesting to
see how that unfolds, whether they can sign him. I've
had questions today that about Ryan Couchman. Can they pull
him out of the squad because he's out.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
For the season. No, they can't do that. They can't.

Speaker 8 (56:31):
It happened. It happened pre season. Happened pre season. They
probably could have like they did with Corey Allen.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
But you know, yeah, Ryan Cashman will still continue to
be paid as a member of our top thirty for
the remainder of the year, whether he plays or not.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Yeah, Cody rams expecting in the top thirty. He's not
in the top thirty, is he?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
No?

Speaker 8 (56:57):
The top thirty.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Let to keep paying him.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
The club's paying him some other way.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
Through the.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Cat here's a reserve break cat as well, yeah, but
the first grade this year.

Speaker 8 (57:19):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Unless we have a mass injury tolerant, they get special dispensation.
But I don't think Flannel will resort to that yet
because as he s a long way to go.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
If goth Owen Slander just playing crap, he's not an
option for fullback.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
No, that's not a logical reason to put him in,
because I'll say, oh, you've got other options. They look
at who's in your squad as well. But let's say, oh,
you've got Corey Allen, you can pick him like that.
That's what they'd say, things like that.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
It's a bit of full bat news the center.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
David Klamer, what do you think he would if he
was to come? Do you think he would make a
difference to our side as man?

Speaker 7 (58:10):
Have you seen the size of him, bloody oath he
would Yeah, he's a bit long in the tooth, but
we're still were still we're still lack in sight. So no, absolutely,
you'll have an impack.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Now the Amory ruler hip drop. Did you see much
on that lamb? Did you think he was going to
foreign a suspension there? Flanno didn't con seem too concerned.
There was a few commentators that were he could have
been suspended for South Sidney's game next week.

Speaker 16 (58:50):
I did send the message through the groups yesterday. Oh
I'm sorry to think I didn't really look much of
a hit drop. But but from the referee guys, he
didn't really drop his head. He just fell by accident.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
So I don't know what.

Speaker 14 (59:16):
He like.

Speaker 16 (59:18):
It looked like more he fell on toble. We were
we did getula tackle when it happened. Who was the player?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I think it was Preston.

Speaker 16 (59:34):
It didn't really look much of a hip hop when
in type of president, it didn't really look like much
of a hip drop. Oh, it's hard to say. I
don't really know, but it's it's dragons. The other reld
just hates dragons, Jesse, and they're going to rule rule
to hip drop. Yep, that's all I'm gonna say. I'm

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not going to much further on it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
We'll go down different paths.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
So we'll go through the Round one ladder as it
ended today. So at the moment, we've got the Melbourne
Storm on top with a plus thirty eight margin. Then
we've got the Broncos in second they're on plus thirty six.
Then we've got Manly on third on plus thirty. Then
we've got the Raiders sitting in fourth on plus twenty two,
the Bulldogs in fifth on plus eight. Sitting at sixth

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is Penriff with them with plus six, Newcastle in seventh
on plus two, and with South Sydney as well in
eighth on plus two. The Titans had the Bios, so
they've also got two points and sitting in ninth. Then
we've got the Dolphins in tenth, the Tigers and eleventh,
the Sharks in twelfth, US in thirteenth, the Dragons, the
Warriors in fourteenth, the Careboys in fifteenth for the Roosters,

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and on the bottom of the table the Paramatter Eels.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
That's Voldemort's team.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Now we've seen a full round of round one. How
do you think it's gone. Where do you see each team?
I mean it's round one, but yes, big team.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
I thought Manly looked impressive. They just annihilated the Cowboys
in that game. They just they crushed them. They didn't
the Cowboys didn't make any runs. That poor young kid
in the seventh for the Cowboys. Cowboys had an absolute
They were on him. All game I thought they were
they were probably most impressive, and Melbourne in the first

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half today they both look good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Who impressed you has men from other than I am.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Look, I see Melbourne exactly where they are at the
end of the season, and where Power are, That's exactly
where I see that Welbourn would just about twenty levels
above paramatter. I can't see us doing much much better.
To be honest, I think unless it's aground Origin, I reckon,

(01:02:13):
we're going to get going to get our pants pulled down.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
We played Melbourne in three weeks time. Ship.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
That's not going to help.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Okako. Who which teams impressed you? Have impressed you?

Speaker 14 (01:02:33):
I think the Friday night game, I think it was
like I think, like Knights and Tigers.

Speaker 15 (01:02:42):
I hope the Tigers, I like, you know, because both
Tigers and we were sex second laughter and they were
laugh So I'm hoping they have a good year and
I'm glad that, like the Eels are down below, I'm
hoping well, actually, I'm quite surposed about the Roosters.

Speaker 14 (01:03:00):
How they lost as well. I'm surprised they had a
lot so you know, lost, I know, but like you know,
the way that they're like.

Speaker 15 (01:03:09):
One of the up you know that they've got Trent Robinson,
you know, like how people have like the Wayne Bennett's,
the Greg Bellamy, the Gritish Stewarts, you know those kinds
of things where like, you know, they're one of the
up tea teams.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
But it's good to see some slide, you know, I'm
looking for and like Melbourne.

Speaker 15 (01:03:27):
It's just Melbourne. They're like guns blazing, you know, it's crazy.
I'm nervous for when we played them in three weeks.
So yeah, but you Jesse, who was your surprise.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Surprise?

Speaker 16 (01:03:43):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:03:43):
What were you shocked?

Speaker 16 (01:03:44):
Horror?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
My shock?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I fought the shock of the shock I thought probably
would have been a surprise was what was the Rabbits? Actually, yeah,
with all the players they had missing, it was a
typical Wayne Bennett performance. They just defended, defender, defended. I

(01:04:10):
know it was a scrappy game, but that's what Bennett
based teams on defense. And they just continue to hold
the Dolphins out the other night and that's why they won.
So we've got to be careful if we don't, and
we're going to have our attack on song because.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
To break that south side it won't be easy anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
We'll get into some forced and unforced changes. So Ryan Couchman,
as we discussed on already, he's out for the season.
Who do you see coming in?

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Scoop?

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Who would you like to see coming for knock out
on the bench.

Speaker 16 (01:04:54):
I'm gonna say it, and I'm not sure everyone's going
to agree with me, Loo, pacific A Tonga. That's what
I'm going to say.

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Has been Coko. You agree with that one, we'll go.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
I do it to a degree. He would add a
bit of a bit of punch up front. But I
question if he's actually actually ready. I was I was
watching the news of last Cup game and he did
make some pretty ordinary defensive decisions and you just cannot

(01:05:36):
be doing that in the middle. So I think that'll
probably be the way Flannel will go anyway, But I
just I have my reservations about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Would you like to see Loco or do you have
another option? You think they will come into the team?

Speaker 19 (01:05:55):
Girl?

Speaker 16 (01:05:55):
Are you there? Or do we have to say party
out to find you cold?

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Let me ask t all right, big t, you take it.
Would you like to see Logo Tonga in or do
you have another option? You'd like to see come into
the seventeen.

Speaker 8 (01:06:24):
I'll just say Gary Coswayowski there. I think it should
be clever. But that's exactly right. But no Loko would
be a good, good selection. I only we've got anything
else down there? Got blockers there, We've got there. Blocker

(01:06:50):
got fit. It didn't play in the reserve grades the
other day, so you must still not be fit.

Speaker 16 (01:06:55):
I don't like.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Sure Frankie Marlowe's Mikey Marlow big enough to suad into
that spot. I'm not sure.

Speaker 16 (01:07:06):
Frankie marlow Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Hate he may consider everyone's going to hate this, but
Flannel loves him. It's Tom I, oh God.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Brings him in.

Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
Did you play yesterday?

Speaker 16 (01:07:24):
No he didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Still there's also.

Speaker 16 (01:07:34):
And then Agan.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
He's he's a back grog forward.

Speaker 16 (01:07:44):
Well other option story have guys he was.

Speaker 8 (01:07:47):
On the bench yesterday. A little that's right. That was
the other one.

Speaker 16 (01:07:54):
Star Amys Stewart a little.

Speaker 8 (01:08:03):
Yeah, yeah it maybe you'll talk about but tuesday, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Now unforced changes has been.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
You said you'd like to see Matt Feno dropped to
New South fALS Cup.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
I would love to see that, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I And who would you be looking at bringing in
would you bring in a Tyrol sloan or would you
bring in I see the only finl.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Look, the only Fin would probably be my my first choice.
If he's not available, then then i'd been slow in.
FW was amazing in the in the trials before he got.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Before he got knocked out by that absolutely rabbinoz Grubmmy
the Pommy Tommy wanker who I mean? Yes, I don't
think he's played since has he He hasn't seen him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
We've got to suspended last week. You got suspended for
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
I would love for Wayne Bennett to pick him this week.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
I'd love it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Yeah, I would love to.

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
I would love to see him because he's ship. Don't
want to see that bloody Humphrey's kid go through us again.
Pick the bloody palm crap. No, definitely for our first choice.
If he can't, then then Slane.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I also, I don't know, raise your hand, Liam, you
got to raise.

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
Your hand, Maam.

Speaker 16 (01:09:41):
I know you're going man, but kill.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
No, he didn't even make the Cup team.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
He's not even good enough to play blood.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
With Canaries.

Speaker 8 (01:10:01):
I think I think that that's five minutes in the
been for scoop.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
The promise. That's such a stupid idea. I can't even
tell if you've been ras or.

Speaker 16 (01:10:17):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 20 (01:10:19):
Just messing with and that could be another that could
be another option for rather not numbers, not number ten,
but on the bed. Yeah, going back to sleep. And

(01:10:41):
Johnson said he's injured, so that's why he's not in
the side.

Speaker 16 (01:10:46):
I'm just trying to think, here's that other options in
the back line?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Would you like to see Tyrol Sloan recalled he looked
promising yesterday, New cup, I'm here.

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Yes, he's not there at all.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
Issues.

Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
Yes, I am so sorry. I'm just doing a few things. Yes,
I would like that.

Speaker 15 (01:11:06):
I was thinking yesterday, like we've got go go at
one now, could he be a number two? Or what
number was Matt Phemie because he was, Yes, he can
he can get bye bye Matt, go back to the
fast cut for five five minutes and then bring salone
in because he played great what I saw, he should

(01:11:29):
be in.

Speaker 14 (01:11:30):
It's very and you know what it's actually for once
it's good.

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
For a coach to be difficult decisions because you've got
so many people in this position.

Speaker 14 (01:11:40):
You've got to talk, you know, rotate or do something
to help the team out. Yeah, I'd love to see
Sloane in.

Speaker 15 (01:11:48):
I'm a big Sloan fan, and yeah, I my people
might hack on him, you know, but he will only
get better.

Speaker 14 (01:11:57):
And but if he doesn't play, it's going to be sad.
If he does maybe want.

Speaker 15 (01:12:01):
To leave, that's the only issue, you know, So give
him a shot with the fun again, give him a
shot number two two.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Get few.

Speaker 15 (01:12:14):
Final Yeah, maybe fewe now, Maybegens.

Speaker 16 (01:12:28):
And so the other player I found but we could
give a shot to is Nathan Lawson on the wing
to the place for now, not for now that female
and then someone in the proper fact will replace Ryan
Countman and Corey Akas because he's still with us. He

(01:12:49):
hasn't been released by the club yet because we can
still use our supplementary list from round one. So those
are the two players that we could you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I've had a few questions come through. I know has
mean isn't the biggest fan of Locker on this and
it's only been one game. Is is guth O to
six and slowing up one and flanning it at seven
something you'd consider or what is your take on that?

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
Well, I mean ideally you don't want to sort of
change your spine around that much. But look, keep I'm
trying to keep an open mind. You know, if it's
if what we've got is not working, you don't stick
with it just because it's the best option. Try something else.
So you know, maybe maybe try flanning it at seven?

(01:13:46):
You know Gutha at six? You know, Blake Laurie, you're
bloody four back. For all the difference it will make
no love you blocker, definitely worth thinking about. I wouldn't
rule it out completely.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Because Sloan would offer another dimension to our attack. No underset, Coco,
you're a big Sloan fan. I mean, would you like
to see Sloan back and fall back a Gupison went
to six. It's going to happen, but it might.

Speaker 14 (01:14:26):
Look I you know what, It's hell, Jesse, you just
dumped me.

Speaker 15 (01:14:35):
He isn't great with the high ball and defending the line,
and Wgado had a bit more experience. But yeah, like,
can he be a five? I don't know like what
positions he can play, so I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:14:50):
Just like, can he be a five? I was just
thinking too because he played to yesterday.

Speaker 15 (01:14:56):
It's you know, doomed if he does jomed if he doesn't,
really it's like and it's just you know, I'm just yeah,
can you play five?

Speaker 16 (01:15:05):
Do you know?

Speaker 14 (01:15:05):
If you can play five or two?

Speaker 16 (01:15:07):
Three?

Speaker 14 (01:15:08):
What else is there?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
He's more of a six, he's a one or a six.
You can play center at a pinch.

Speaker 14 (01:15:14):
Oh that changes the game. Maybe him an Ilias? Maybe
imagine him on six Earlis seven. Sorry Kyle, sorry, you
could go. Maybe you could be back up. I don't know.
See this is see I wouldn't even be good at
coaching either that I'll be. I'll be the orange lady.
Come on, fellas, get oranges. Come on?

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
Oh, wo'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Your starting dummy half? Have you seen enough that Jacob
Little deserves to be our starting nine?

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Um?

Speaker 8 (01:15:49):
Now, I think Cookies there starting nine. We look good
in the first twenty minutes he was leading the rock around.

Speaker 16 (01:15:57):
Um.

Speaker 8 (01:15:58):
But I do agree with what I've seen now other
day is Cookie starting the game, Little coming on with
about ten to fifteen to go in the second half,
Move Cookie back to Locke and then early in the
first early in the second half, have Little starting the
game and then being Cookie on in the last fifteen

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minutes and we did look good when little came on,
but I thought we looked good in the first three
minutes as well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
So I'm going to go with you leave it as
it is at this moment, and any other changes that
anyone that can think of any other plane must have
anything to add on that if you think that anyone
has a potential spot, I pro grabs any changes that

(01:16:43):
Flood might make for a round two anything, scoop, What
do you think any left field changes you think that
Flada might come up with.

Speaker 16 (01:16:51):
I'm hoping in the arms, but they will be changed.
I'm looking at the supplementary less fat. We're con us
with like in Kintogia at five eight to replaced. Wait, please.

Speaker 19 (01:17:14):
Your questions. I ask you a question, Skip ask you
a question. How do you think to yesterday? How do
you think to yesterday?

Speaker 16 (01:17:27):
I reckon he went all right, But just give me
like another week or two to see how it goes.
But if he doesn't improved, I want to see a
change on the wings.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
He played. He played in number five. You don't know
the number four on his back, and he can score
three tries. He read seventy four meters. He made, he
made nine track of breaks. He made three line breaks,
one off load, he made three tackles. Did miss the tackle?

Speaker 16 (01:18:07):
How was I'm harsh? I'm harsh because on our winners,
because I grew up watching the likes of Jayson nine
and Gale and the name McDonald and all those past winners.

(01:18:27):
It's going to take a bit of time for me
to grow on Christmas too, So maybe give me another
two wegs and see how it goes. But I do
want to see it change in the Hearts because I
hate our Hearts pairing. I want young kids to come through,
give them a shot. Like I want to see going

(01:18:48):
a Glover at half back for the meantime and like
in Kintogie in the five A andove cal flank and
back to reserves and Lacklan yeah ilias in the full day.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
I was listening to ABC Radio today and they said
there were some good science for the.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
You Gotta you Gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
You've got to look at it from this point of view,
like it was the first time they played together. It
does take a time to build new combinations, and I
think Flannel will stick with them for for the time
being until they get those.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Get those right. But yeah, and what what do you
think we've got to do better?

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Panel, What do you think we've got to do better?
If we are going to get the two points next week?
Because it is a four point game next week, we've
got to buy for the following week. What do we
need to do better to beat South Sydney next week?

Speaker 8 (01:19:48):
Hold power, Stop making silly mistakes, speed and power.

Speaker 16 (01:19:56):
That's right, Hold the ball and I want to see
no one has the big hits from j dB. Bring
back the j dB from twenty eighteen. I want to
see the big kits from him.

Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
James Savage, it's more. They will tell you what.

Speaker 16 (01:20:15):
Jimmy said, the old twenty eight and Jack de Bellan
just ripping and tearing the plays apart.

Speaker 8 (01:20:29):
Seven years older.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
What do you expect?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Yes, it's going to be Hopefully we do get a
sellout crowd. It was a sellout at Cogra. Would you
love to see a sell out at wind Stadium next Saturday?

Speaker 8 (01:20:44):
Cocon well?

Speaker 14 (01:20:45):
Sure, oh hell yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:20:47):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Sure?

Speaker 15 (01:20:48):
And news Copae like twelve thirty, so come and watch
that and then three pm with a good three pm
Saturday afternoon. What are you going to do on Saturday afternoon?
Come down if you have birthdays or weddings or anything
or something on. It's okay. But if you're a Dragons fan,
get your butt down there, sit on the hill, stand
on the hill, be drove your be respectful, have a

(01:21:12):
yarn to someone, talk about the game, think about you
know X.

Speaker 14 (01:21:16):
Factor, you know, just the kind of one another. That's
what the world is. That's just give into footy.

Speaker 16 (01:21:23):
And don't be like the guards this week. Uh, don't
be like them, talk about that.

Speaker 14 (01:21:33):
We're not going to give him the energy, but not
the energy, not.

Speaker 16 (01:21:42):
Burn him.

Speaker 14 (01:21:43):
And when I talk Atlea, look we're not talking about it. Jesse, Yes,
go Jess.

Speaker 13 (01:21:50):
Jack, Jesse, yes, yes, And yeah, what ends in the
seven grandstand?

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
It was there were some positives to take out of
it last night. But yeah, we will see that combination
hopefully improve as the season goes on. As we say,
it's only round one, but yeah, hopefully we can get
better as the season goes on. And we pushed for
that top eight. Yeah, but we will be back on

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