Friday Night Footy at Kogarah

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Speaker 4 (01:00):
All good evening and welcome to the Mad Dragons Podcast
at our new, brand new special time of seven point thirty.
So this will be our time from every teamless Tuesday
from now on. Yeah, welcome to our very first show
at this new time we do. It's our Round thirteen
preview against the Newcastle Knights on Friday night at Cogra.

(01:24):
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zero nine. Okay, Yeah, a couple of inclusions into the

(01:47):
Dragon side this week as they come off the buy
and some injuries as well. But Rob take us through
the side that Flanno has done this afternoon to take
on the Nights on Friday night.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We've got Quint Garnison at fullback, Terrell Sloan on one wing,
and we've got ct returning Kusten two Plotto which is
great news for the Dragons.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
On the other wing.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
We've got Moses Sullian and Vale Holmes hopefully backs up
after origin. We've got Lochlan king Tager at five, eight
at six and Kyle Flaningghen at half back at seven.
We've got jdb Jack de Bellen at propert eight, Damien
Cook at hooker nine, David Klamer at proper ten, and
then we've got our second row of Lochani lu Lua

(02:35):
and jayans Sewer and lockin the scrum for us as
Hamie Stewart on the bench fourteen, Jacob Little fifteen welcome
returned to Tavie Coutman, and we've got Big Loco sixteen
and Blake Lurie at seventeen an eighteenth man is Emri Gooler,

(02:55):
and we've got nineteenth three Rammom, Fatala Mariner and twenty Lachlan,
twenty one Nathan Lawson and twenty two s and Coach
by Shane fun Thank you Jess yep.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
So it is a couple of surprise editions. Both Christian
Talk a Lot Too and Toby Cashman have been named
a week ahead of schedule their scheduled returns, which is
a timely boost as we look to push towards the
top eight. We are on the fringe of the top
eight and this game sets up as a crucial clash
in the context of both team seasons. But we'll go

(03:31):
into our next segment of the night where we will
discuss the opposition team, and we actually before we do that,
I will introduce the team. We do have Big Tea
in the in the right hand corner. You've heard from
Rob who just read us through the team. Big t
will introduce our special guests very shortly, and we will
have co co and has been possibly joining us a

(03:54):
little later as well. But yeah, we'll get into the
time of the night where we discuss the opposite in
this case this week, the Newcastle lines.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So uh, just come with me as we go behind
enemy lines.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
We'll can that be dragons fans on Big ten and
this is a behind them lines around thirteen thirteen or
halfway there, nearly.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Before we be a guest in.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
I run through the teams Calm Ponger at the back
if he backs up, James Schiller and Fletcher Hunt on
the wings in the center's Dane Ga Guy and as
we were talking to earlier, Carle McCarthy who that is
Fletcher Sharp and Tosson Gamble in the arms up front,
Tyson Frazell for Crossland, Leo Thompson background Dineald Lucas and
Kai Peers. Paul Matt Croaker locks the scrum on the bench,

(05:21):
Jaydon Braley, Jack Hetherington, b J. Brady Jackson, Thomas Kent
eighteenth Man, Jack Cogger, Jamay McEwan, Matt Arthur is a
condo Vosja Salih Learry Mohana so Adam Bright as a coach.

(05:42):
But I guess, hello, Adam, Adam, you're one of has
Man's friends. I believe or you know has Man. I
wouldn't admit to that, but anyway.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
I ever met has Men, I was dragged into a
third party, but's so happy to be here.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
Guys, thank you, oh thanks.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
For joining us. Mate, you're a legend just going through
having a look. What do you think about your new
recruit next year? A third ending on man? I no words,
just no words.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
I don't see it.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
I look at us spending one point four on Caleb
Ponger a year and then one point three of the
sill where if we if our man, we're actually looking
to the long term future. We look at the side
without Kle and Ponger. As much as I love KP.

(06:39):
Last week we saw the side actually performing without relying
on KP.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
Are they going to do that? The same with Bilan Edwards.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Look, if you're going to throw one point three at
a player like Bill and Edwards to change the club,
throw it over three years or throwing seven hundred and
over ten. But it's just a bad buy in my eyes,
I cannot see the investment.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Yeah, we've spoken about it on this for a little
bit and we're saying we don't think he's worth one
point free.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
So good luck to you, good luck to you next year.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
When we're talking about this year, he had a good
win last week without Marjie with that best I Feedie
Elliott against the last place Panthers. Everyone's met the Panthers
these days, but it's been a bleak e four from seven.
They're running just behind us. We've had two boys, you've
had one. Where do you think the Knights the Knights

(07:30):
are missing? Where are they missing something? What are they missing?

Speaker 7 (07:35):
I think the lack of consistency in the Hearts has
played a big part. Adam O'Brien's continue sing of who's
playing where I think there's and we'll talk about that
later when it but there's a bit of a club
and I don't think it's well. We look we have

(07:56):
a great side looking on the weekend, you know, we
depends on up the middle. Our backs were great. You know,
our edges were fantastic. But it's inconsistent. And the inconsistency
starts with the coach and the inconsistent teams he keeps
putting on the field.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Okay, and I think mixing around the halves all the
time doesn't help either.

Speaker 8 (08:21):
That's the biggest issue.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I think Jess had a question about your halves, Jackson
Hasting was it was so on the nose.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
Well, rumor has it coming out of the night that
there's a rift. There's a rift in the Wags. Sadly
that's one of the senior players. And look, there could
only be there could only be a few things about
like that. Sadly player power at the club. Wags involvement.

(08:54):
We saw it a bit with Canber. I think Rickie
Stewart handled it really well when Tarp and his missus
got involved. I don't think Newcastle are hands in handling
it well. My concern is that we are wasting seven
dollars and loves to get his hands on the ball.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
M So yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Totally agree with you guys. He sorted out huh with.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Hate with Hastings. It SEMs to be everywhere he goes
he's a cancer. Something happens. He's been the dragons who
went to Hastings. Everywhere he was going, he's he's We've
been kicked out, you know that, the Dragons he left there.
The roosters didn't like him there. When over in England
didn't like him there, they didn't like him. Manly didn't
like him.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
So yeah, he does rub. He does rub people the
wrong way.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
But we've we've got another I'd really like to talk
about Hamble, who yeah, has exactly that same sort of
personality when they when we went on that and not
last year, the year before. In that last ten games
where KP got the dally M, those two were consistent

(10:08):
halves and whilst they had that little bit of grub
about him that people didn't like, the actually felt really well.
And through that game we're picking up the twos and
ones where Caleb.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Was yeah, yeah, well you guys have won the last two,
we won the two before that, and you won the
tea before that, so that's out.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I turned to win. Why the well, why are the
Knight's going to buck that trend this week against the Dragons.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Uh, it's gonna have to be in the forwards New Newcastle,
the games we've won, the games where we've done really
well always, particularly for Dellen Thompson and Thompson's back from
his little gas brow last last weekend, those two heading
the platform. As we saw Dylan Lucas running running off

(10:59):
Tyson for Zella start last week, that platform set the
edges up. We didn't need to go wide. You know,
I didn't even see the ball. It was literally through
that third.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
And if we're going to do this same thing.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
We've got to do that, you guys, which is with
Debelle and Klemmor Lulawy, Sawer and Stewart.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
I don't don't do it so well, but those are
the four original caliber players. So we're Dylan Lucas is
not going to get ball is going to But if
we're going to be you guys going through that third.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Yeah, your defense has been a bit of a SIVI,
except for last week against the Panthers, have been giving
away a lot of points and not scoring many. Well,
We've got slowly scored nine tries, val Homes scoring tries
two poloist off absolutely fantastic hat trick in his first game,
surely running at his menacing best. How did Newcast how

(12:11):
your go to combat our slick outside backs because when
they when they play, they're pretty slick.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
I think I answered that question in my last one.
We're going to have to play you guys through the
middle because your back five are hot. Your back five
are running hot. I think Gunson may not be seeting
in the top ten of the dally Ms, but he's
got to be close to the buyer the seat just effort.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, he's running seven well.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
I must have been just looking at the top five.
But he has to be close to the buyer the season, you.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
Know, the way he directs your back line, the way
he picks up defensively.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
As a captain, you know, and then you've got so
much talent.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
He's surely in Homes unfortunately, you know, Homes is a Queenslander.

Speaker 8 (13:05):
Queen.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
There is so much talent in that back line. We
really need to ensure that we keep that game in
the middle third or I don't all back up. And
as much as Dak gag guy up, people say you
only paper, he's been one about route, but he's not

(13:27):
going to do that alone and.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
Go back to the back.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
But we've got a question there from one about We've
got a question there from one of our listeners.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Watches whatever they call them, nice to win the compas
with that, he's.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
Doing about as well as any other night player. Okay,
we've got trophies.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
They just.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Alex McKinnon cup and you.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Out and you're you're good, blake buddy. But it's the
other item that worries me. The coach. I don't like
you going a guy that says in interviews, yeah you know,
yeah you media you know all this sort of stuff.
I honestly think he's as running his race mate and Brien,
I think you guys need a much better coach are
coming for you. You've got some good, really good players.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Sullivan there now, Rob, Yeah, Paris someone, but.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
The coach I don't know. I just don't trust his coach.
I don't like him, mate. I think you guys should
get a better coach for yourself. I don't like people
will make excuses all the time about and not just
tell the truth to say, hey, you know, this is
where we've got to improve. We're going to be better.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
You know, what are your thoughts on? What are your
thoughts on the coach? Jed my fortunate.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
I don't think that he's strong enough who he's going
to be the link coach.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
I always thought he was a stopgap measure for Newcastle
and I'm still surprised that they kept we had a
playing group that should have been top four and they
kept extending his contract when we scraped into the eighth
and that that's never going to be a great thing
for a coach. What we've got Whilst we've got pterosylum there,

(15:25):
we've got bad management. The top we've invested badly. I'd
love to see someone like a Brad.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Arthur or.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
You know, someone like that who has had that NROL
experience can be hard. I mean you've got to look
at Brad Arthur and when he was asked the playing
group had with Demard.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
There too, his son's plan there.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Well, you know one of you playing up up with
us and some of the other ones playing Stanley.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
But I've got to say I think really experience coach
Brian a great has proved himself as assistant. But they
are leaders and there are two y cs and the
leader needs to be the one who's going to come

(16:18):
in and do those hard yards. Like you you look
at your coach shame he'll.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
Come in and make the hard.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Hope he does whilst the half back of the moment
I wouldn't be there if you.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Know you break up with as.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Sorry, I was just saying, you know, planning.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
It's not picking Kyle because he's not worthy the building.
He has a planning structure. Adam O'Brien is just going
week week changing hubs, bring bringing, no next up mentality,
long term junior structures. There's nothing that we see the

(17:02):
great coach that's happening from.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah. Yeah, so who you're looking forward to on the
weekend head to head? Well, you like to go head
to head. Who's you're gonna be a favorite?

Speaker 7 (17:13):
I really love the two young five eights coming up
against I think King Toga.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Job stepping up, he's.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
He's a little bit different and Fletcher Sharp having that
speed and that they're too young up and coming five eights.
I think that's a great battle. I'm not even going
into the backfire that scared the hell out of me,
but yeah, I really like that five. You know, got
two running half backs that's are really well taken on

(17:48):
the line, but you've got those two jinky five eights,
young up and coming.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Yeah, I find that really interesting.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, the Knights had him side like a ki togya.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, I didn't know that, but he changed his mind.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
In the cooling off period you're backflip.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
So contract signing and cooling off period clause I call that.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, you've got.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Any other questions there, Jess Rob, Yes, there's been talk,
Kaylen Ponger, I know the Night's form hasn't been great.
It's been Yeah, it's been probably the worst attack in
the camp. But their defense has been something they've been
good at. But I want to ask Kaylen Ponger, do

(18:42):
you think him going into this Origin camp and playing
tomorrow night and it's such a big game, will lift
into try and take his performance back to the nights
his forms. He started the Eagle very well, but he's
dipped the last five or six weeks.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
I think seriously, Origin is the pinnacle of our game.
Going into the Origin is going to live.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
We're not. We're not talking about people going in and
you know, playing.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Of course, of course going to Live.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
I still go back to.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
Waylight on him Newcastle is we've always had one macurial
player that we've looked to. You know, John's Biers Harric,
you know, even Darren Mullen was looked at as that
next God's always tested And I think the sad thing

(19:45):
you asked me about our thirty million dollar man, I
think that's.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
That's what we're trying to replicate.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
I think when Adam O'Brien comes up with a game
plan where only is allowed to play actual game, which
will be.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
What Monster and Harry Grant I wouldn't be. He's thriding that.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Unfortunately, what happened to everyone lost with some of that,
so we i'd i'd made what work before and switch.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Eight and yeah we had that question before. Yeah it
could be. It could be a thing for you because
he played well last week. Let your shop here was
a prediction. Uh, I know it's gonna be Newcastle will
give us one anyway.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
No one's gonna lock the Dragons Bots World if you
want to what Dragons Bots.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
World are you doing? Are you doing that?

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Like when you tip Pip against your team and tip
and comp you're doing psychology, reverse psychology, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I think that's what he's doing.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
Just a just a little story. My grandfather's brother him
after my father and grandfather passed.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Away with him and we're literally both sitting on forty
nine points at the moment. I I love him, so
I'm going to tip the Dragons then I get to
win the night's win.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
So yeah, it's a.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Little bit of reverse oy College. But honestly, no, true, truly,
I think you're back five and much stronger. I think
we're going to have a battle in the forwards, but
with Debelan and cleamor up the middle, little Life Sewer
out wide. I just think the matchups sit with you guys,
and honestly, I think you guys play twelve.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Wow Dragons boy twelve. I'll write that down. We see
if oh, where we go to this? You know what
time of nine of these guys. It's the time we
go for a walkdown memory lane. Adam, come with me
and you take a walk down memory lane. Unfortunately for you.
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Speaker 5 (22:29):
Com dot you.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
We played forty four times. Dragons have won twenty nine
Knights of one fifth Day and were scored nine hundred
andy four points. The Knights have scored nine twenty one.
But the game of going back to Sunday, fourth of
April two thousand and four, Dragons versus Knights win. Stadium
Referee Short Hampstead crowd nine thousand, three hundred and sixty two.

(23:00):
Shawn Hampstead, mister Bean. He refereed the Dragons forty two times,
twenty three wins, alien alien draw, alien losses in a draw,
three three gays aen win. Yeah, fifty five percent win rates.
So we're pretty good under mister Bean, We're happy with him.
Run through your teams here you've got Ben Harby at
the back, backlock and receive Recye Simon's on the wings,

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our best best best end up hearing Gasney and keeper
Baron head Head could have been anything except for injuries.
Bill Bailey, Biggy Midel, Lance Thompson in the front row
then yeah, young Brent Kotte and Sean Timmins.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Nathan Brown was the coach, Justin Paul what was his
name hal O, Ryan Powell sorry, Michael Michael or David Yeah,
would Michael Howell Lincoln withs and Ryan Powell.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Ryan Powell played for the Dragons only five games, four five,
but he comes from the Hellsburg Tigers. And these are
the Dragons that have come out of that club. Pincon
Nearly Kiss with Donnelly, Saffie Let, Poor Cook, Brett, Temmy
Bremner because he acts just just aw from Helenburg Tigers

(24:16):
eat got There's many, many more that the players that
come out of that club. Unbelievable. But Ryan play out
Roy and Power played for us O four O five
five games. Yeah, it was a winger anything hook I
think he was. Okay, let's go through the Newcastle time
team Michael Young, Craighall and George Karmen on the wings.

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In the centers, Matthew Gidley and Russell Richardson x Yackey
won the Richardson ex Dragon, Jamie Fitzgerald and Kirk Gidley
in the halves. Up front, Josh Perry, Dannyvidieras and Anthony
will Know, Adam Adam will Know Yep, Todd Lewry, Daniel

(25:05):
Abrahams and Ben Kennedy locks the scrum. I know in
this game let's let's score ended up being blow out
for the Dragons, but the Knights did score an early goal.
I know, I knew that about this game. Two points.

(25:25):
But then Piggy got two tries. I couldn't find anything
on this game, no metropolits, no reports, no highlights. I've
got all my stuff of Rugby League project. Piggy got
two tries.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Racy got a double as well, Racy Simmons, Chren Barrett
got a four pointer.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Think I got over for one. Shimmy, Shimmy, Gasney always
scores tries gas resting prece young Man, Tom I got one, yeah, yeah,
Tim Sean timm has got to try try his own
twenty seven tries from one hundred and forty one hundred
and twenty four games for the Dragons.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
He was a good playoff.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
Oh wasn't he?

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Piggy to a deal? Got four from six this day,
Maddy Head scored.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
I guess there's one from three, two from three halftime
Dragons twenty nights, two full time Dragons forty eight nights too.
And I think I think the Knights did score first
in this game, but went to a two year league.
They scored, they scored, that's right.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
I didn't get to know.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
So that was a That was the biggest Dragons score
against the Knights in the history twenty six years of
the Dragons. Yeah, score was forty eight to two. There go,
there it goes. I thank you if you wanted me
for one henemy lines, and I walked down memory Lane.
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Speaker 5 (26:56):
The lay you can't check them out. Your missus will
love you. I love you for it.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
The rest is history, yes, but there's much much more
to be made. And this week she's not here tonight.
But that's that's a little coca, little little cocaine. Every week, Adam,
we go through. Oh, I have panel members and after
them send me photos. And Coco sent me photos of
her when she was a little girl. It's brace Coco.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Oh isn't that.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
She has an age today?

Speaker 6 (27:26):
It's fancy Cocaine. Look, she's all dressed us. Must be
going to a party. I love you dress Coke. Oh,
there's I'm going to the country fair. Cocain, little.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
Wet.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
This is uh ye incredible.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Let we coca. And every every week, every week, I
gotta I do I I caricature of these people. And
there she is. It's got a dragon on the head.
She's wearing the dragon's badge number seven. There you go,
can't go. I'll send that to you. Come on later

(28:03):
on we'll bring this up again. So there you go.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
That's behind me lines and walk down memory lane. Thanks
for joining us, Adam. You're an absolute champion and I
hope we see you again. I think we players again
this year, don't we Yeah, well no I don't. I'll
see you in semis. Oh that's thanks very much, thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Well, there we go.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Thank you Adam for coming.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Great new Castle supporter Adam, there we go, we'll have
me back again. He was a great he was great,
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
All right, so we'll keep the ball rolling. You're on
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Now we'll discuss the Dragons team. So Bell Holmes, Big Tea.
He'll be playing in the Origin tomorrow night up there
at Brisbane if all goes well. Do you think you'll

(29:08):
back up?

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Of course he will coming off a win. He'll be
back every day of the week, every day in the week,
he'll be back coming off a win. Easy. What you
ask me a question?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Very wishful for Rob. Christian Taut has been out for
six weeks. A welcome return has been named to return
a week ahead of schedule. How much of an inclusion
is the money man Christian?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Absolutely massy first Jesson hear me out why he's carrybacks,
his defense, highball attacking, ability to finish off tries, and
his pride and passion. Absolutely, it just bleeds out of him.
He's such an exciting player who is just all over

(30:02):
our team for the whole game, pumping him up, pumping
the tires up for the eighty minutes so just a
great player to come back right at the right time.
We're just on the verge of the eight, so to
iced to beat Wing against the Knights, I can think
you'd better no better player to come in than ct.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And Lisa's had a bit of a laugh to your
Queensland comment big team. Is that Lisa's laughing at your comment?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
I love She's She's lovely all right. I'm a big team.
Everyone loves me.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
With the season ending injury, yeah, with the tragic season
ending injury. Tola he was I think he was on
track to get Rookie of the Year the way he
was playing. Lucian comes in for Dylan Egan. Now he
does have his defensive deficiencies. Are you are you surprised

(30:56):
that he's gone with with Are you surprised has gone
with a low Well you expected him to go down
the road of maybe a Raymond for Talamara or as
expected that he's gone with Leila.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
I could have that could happen anyway. Laurie could drop
with the French America start will drop back to the bench.
You don't know what's going to happen with Sloan. With Flanagan,
he's all over Cats might even starting. Clem might be
on the bench.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
He knows. Yeah, I think he's looking at he's in.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Catsman. Maybe you come on pushed to the front. Yeah,
you don't know what is going to do. But yeah,
I don't expect the start that starts there will start
the game.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Is not a big minutes player. I think it's just
a bit of he's going to change your team. He's
not a player. He's going to play a match or
sixty five seventy minutes. There's no way. He's more a
bit player, impact player. Looch. That's what I reckon. That's
what I've seen. He's been great as an impact player.
But Mabe, if you're playing for longer minutes than that,

(32:13):
I'd be very worried, to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
He knows he might to be playing, might not be
right to come back, and he's got laws and coming
up to his skin bench.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
He does.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
He's a week early, so yeah, he has me back
around fourteen, So see what happens. Might be a ruse.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
They've all got bittle forwards on the bench. Do you
look at Toby Kushman and also Blake Laurie do you think, Yeah,
we mentioned there could be a potential swap, but I
went forwards there Rob on the bench.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, look what we just discussed with Flannel, I would
not be surprised if if that is different come before
the game. So the obviously just we're going to the game.
So yeah, I'm pretty much fifty percent over that that
won't be the same side that we're big t s
that we see that runs on. So yeah, I think

(33:14):
it'll be different. Definitely.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
Can can Stuart play an edge? He can.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Bring Lorry into the back round and into the into
the lock and then look, Luciano often puts Stewart.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yeah, then on the edge, so there's plenty of there's
plenty of options.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
We've noticed that he likes to bring on Little and
Cook goes to Locke as well. Been working really well
when when he does that, we seem to be a
different team and they both play on the field at
the same time in those positions.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
So I think.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Will start there the front row either question question there
from Lucas.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, taking a few weeks, but they're starting to look stuff.
It's starting to look good, I think so.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Around.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I think that's the way they've been playing anyway for
the last three weeks. Even though they've got the different
numbers on their back. Carl Flannagan still be in the
half back and and like being the six.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, Carl's been the half There was no disputing that.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, and Plana has just decided I'll give you the
right numbers this week.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, it's it's the right thing to do it.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
The halves play on both sides. Now, we're starting to
go back to half five eight, center, center, winger. We're
going back to that too. If you notice some tims
that they're both wingers on the same side, both centers
on the same side. You're seeing that more and more
every week. So I'm going back to the six seven, six,
three four out of the five, you know. So, yeah,

(34:48):
we're seeing that anyway. So they're playing on both sides.
Gotho's playing on both sides. Went back when Cathay chimes
into that back line.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Who looks good?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
He plays like another, doesn't he?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
John exactly right?

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah, Well he's probably in I think he's up there
with in the top trisis this year.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yes, I'm.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah that we mentioned tob Caftan big tam an early
return from injury. Do you think he's been starting in
the games this year. Do you think that it's the
fact that he is returning from injury that's why Flano's
just put him on the bench.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
More than likely you're easing back in.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
You give him, give him fifty minutes forty to fifty
minutes this week, and then easing back into the team
next week.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Yeah. So yeah, I'll say your start of the bench,
but they're easing back into the game.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
One you did mention before Rob Jacob Little, Now what
an amazing try score against the Edits to Broncos a
couple of weeks ago. Played fifteen minutes in that probably
our best player in that game, and arguably and probably
arguably our best player all season, to be honest, and
he was a catalyst in that game. What do you

(36:06):
think of a role he plays here? Do you see
some sort of role again where Little comes on, Cook
moves to thirteen. They have come on at the same
time as Cook get arrest or do you think it's
a game by game proposition depending on who we play.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I think it's a game by game. But Little obviously
massive word with him should be his middle name. Impact.
I mean, he makes a massive impact when he comes on,
without a doubt there's no doubt he can play more minutes.
I wouldn't say eighty, but he's saying that he's so impressed.
When Little's on and Cook goes the lot littles at
Hug we all like a different team, but our momentum

(36:42):
go forward. I think that helps the fours. I think
it helps the hearts as well too, So I think
he's working it out. I think he's finally working it
out how best to play it. But Gez, when they're
both on the field together, they look good. So again,

(37:03):
maybe look for Little to play more minutes and maybe
Cook still plays a fair few minutes as well. To mate,
I'm not saying that Cook wight have he he'll probably
have some time off on the bench. But to be honestly, Cook,
he had a very good game last match. Obviously Little
had a fantastic match as well. So why were you
playing both together?

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Mate?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
There were two of our best players.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, and Emery Gorla named on the extended bench,
big t. There has been talk that he may come
into the team as well.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Yeah. Anybody in that twenty two and coming to the team.
Anybody in that twenty two maybe not Elias, but anybody
in that twenty two.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Can coming to the side gool and what come in
for Laurie who knows Goola might be there was a
ruse for Catsman who knows.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
We don't know what he's thinking.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Laws and Lawson. I'm nine to nine point nine percent
sure that if Vale Holmes is not back up and
Nathan Lawson will make his debut.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Yeah, why not? Why not? Is the only one there?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I'll come through Origin last tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I think he's tube, but I'm concerned that Obviously I
would have thought he'd been playing on the wing, you
know what I mean? So home has not been there
CT coming back, so obviously with bringing into the center's
I'm assuming that's where he'll play. We've got a strong
bring But yeah, as has he been has he been

(38:42):
playing mainly wing or he has played some center in
lower grades as well, or.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
He's played a bit of center, but he's played most
of the year on the wing. That's where that's where
he's preferred position.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Is Yeah, you love that.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Actually, I've seen you guys and a status truly well,
I mean there's played was bombing origins where he's played?
When is he backed up and sped every Origin barring
injury or whatever. Is he always to be backed up
first you have when he played Origin.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
He'll get he'll get bombed tomorrow night. I think he'll
get bombed there.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Wan Yeah of course, yeah, he's.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Up against Boltemore.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yes, we'll say that later.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
We'll get into a bit of breaking up a little bit. Now,
we'll get our viewers more involved where they can get
their picking caps on and yeah, we'll see how they
go with this. Yeah, okay, Well my question tonight. So,

(40:34):
as you well know the Alex McKinnon Cup, the Dragons
and Knights battle for that every year, and as Alex
McKinnon played for both clubs during his shortcome tragic career.
It was very came to a tragic end as we
know back in twenty fourteen during that shocking spinal injury

(40:56):
which I saw and become a paraplegic. But yeah, my
question is tonight. So the first game was back in
twenty fifteen for the Alex McKinnon Cup. Who won the game?
And actually which team and one of the losing team
was actually held to mil So who won the game?

(41:19):
And yep, and what was if you can name the
score and name the winner. Go right ahead. That is
the question for this evening the first time Dragons and
Knights battled for the Alex McKinnon Cup. But while while
we'll keep that going while the viewers try to solve

(41:42):
that problem, we'll go to you, Rob, So we'll go
to the key matchups. Coco isn't on tonight, as we
alluded to earlier, but yeah, we'll get into this where
Rob can discuss where he thinks the battles will be
won and lost. The key battles for this game on Friday.

Speaker 9 (41:59):
Night's slugging it out in the middle of the field,
the Dragons flat row is not his blockle.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
It's time to look at the one o one battles
that will decide the game. Will it be the chief
position players, will the fact be one out wide or
will it be one up front? Scrap yourself hem for Crocker.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Classic.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Over to you, Rub, Robs Rumbles. Take us through your
key matchups for this game.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
They add down the forwards, you know, the middles is
definitely uh you know momentum going forward. Look personally by
Draion's Adam, I just think we're going to be far
too strong. But the Fords whoever wins that middle, it's

(43:14):
gonna have a strong chancelling the game. I see the halves,
the especially the half backs Gamble and Flannagan obviously, who's
who's performing better, who's kicking better? Field position as key
to that with the momentum of the forwards running forward Palmer,
I think and Gath be a great clash with the

(43:36):
fullbacks and as Newcastle, uh you know visitor Adam who
he did indicate the five eighths, it's going to be
a very good clash as well too. You know, two
young guys are going in it, and yeah, I think

(44:00):
that'll be a big one. But look, just again with
my red and white eyes, I just I just think
we're going to be far too strong the Dragon. So
we're going to have to be very consistent, pay Paulie
to lose, to be honest with you, because I think
we're on a big up spiral and I'm expecting us
to win by at least twenty plus in this game,

(44:21):
to be honest with you, So, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Do you think that'll be a key bat I was
gonna ponger.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, Look, I think Pomer has been struggling behind the team.
It's been very poor I think it was probably about
three or four weeks ago. We were talking about Newcastle
and they looked like they couldn't score a tray big
tea for remember, I think I scored.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Before.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
There was a king made and a rebound and off
and opposition playing fill in the hands of the newcast
player get over the line, and Paul looked like he
was struggling. He couldn't break the line. He was trying
his best sigsaging and whatever. So yeah, I mean, obviously
the and how talented you are as an individual, it's
very very difficult, you know what I mean, when the
team is so poor, you know that you're playing with

(45:08):
But in saying that, you did indicate the full big
t and Adam was saying he's correct, playing Stave of Origin,
big game coming back. You hyped up Ponger playing with
the top players, ovels your top player. I'm hoping he's
not going to be on, but a bit of pong
and magic could be dangerous for us as well too,
So we definitely have to watch out for Jesse.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
And hopefully val Can brings back some form from Origin
to tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Because.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, you know, And I
think we've been pretty hard on Valve, but I think
he's been one of our best players, to be honest
with you, or up there at least in our top
six players. So maybe with the Origin experience for him
this time around, you'll come back and do some sharp
shooting for us and hopefully score a couple of drives.

(45:59):
So personally think he's been fantastic for US four. So yeah,
I'm looking forward to him as much as one us
New South Wales to wing. Jess, I'm looking forward to
Vale having a big game for Queensland as also.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
He can play well, rob but not too well.

Speaker 8 (46:12):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
He can play well, but Queensland don't have to win
the game. How that sound Jes?

Speaker 5 (46:29):
All right, yeah, lower grades.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
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(46:53):
be the curtain raiser to the game on Friday night,
so that it would be five for to kickoff. The
gates will open at five thirty at Cogra on Friday
night and a great experience for Kerrie Ramsey at who
is the fullback and captain. He trained with the New
South Wales team in the Blue Mountains last weekend, so
that that was a mighty great experience for him. Ben

(47:14):
Rumble and Hayden Buchanan Sorry Ben Rumble and soon fin
on the wings. Ben Rumble will wear jerseys and their
teen the Senate's Nick grand At, Hayden Buchanan, the Hearts
of Jonah Glover and Loch Whillius up front. Jersey sixteen
starting in the front row Villy Army for feeder with
Hamecele kind of Malison as the hooker. The second runs
of Jacob Halengaho and Michael Molo and the locke is

(47:37):
Jet Lee. On the bench it is Haley Finew No.
One in Jersey fifteen Jacob Webster and on the bench
also in Jersey twenty is Ben Murdoch Macilla and the
coach Willie.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Ben Mnnock's first game back No.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
He played two weeks ago. IM pretty sure in the
game the Tamworth when we beat the nichschan Jets and
then Jersey Flegg We're playing Saturday at one pm also
against the Newcastle Knights at Collegiate Sports Complex there at Victory.
Their team at fullback where's Pring. The wingers at Jesse
Williams and on the other wing in Jersey eighteen is

(48:16):
like Lyric Kraft t Manui. In the center that is
Javit Athu and Charlie Heidke who made his New South
Wales Cup debut last weekend. The hearts of Tyler Packham
Harris and cad Reid. The front rowers are Campbell Ruby
and the captain Ryan Hutchinson. The hooker is Isaiah Vaglilo.
The back rows are Cyrus, Stanley, Trail and Jaris for

(48:37):
a week and locking. The scrump is Matthew al Hazim.
On the bench it is Blake Metca, Villy, Army Hakeuila,
Jared Johnson and Leroy Weatherell will make his Jersey flag
debut and the eight eighth man is Ethan Hodges. The
coach is Shane good Miller is that little brother weather
All That is the little brother of Madison weather Or

(48:58):
who used to play for the Dragon General w team.

Speaker 10 (49:00):
Yes, jeez, you're good on names like Big T. You
to read that tea yea, yes, well that one. You're
going to read through that program many many times to
get those names. She starts, Donny, pretty right, jeez.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
We'll move into the the elephant in the room everyone.
I know everyone's looking forward to the next couple of
nights where we see two nights of Origin football. We'll
start with the men's state of Origin and Big T.
I know you've been busting to read this out, but
take us through the as it is we are. The
game will kick off at sun Coop tomorrow night, game

(49:41):
one of the twenty twenty five and Pole State of
Origin series.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
It's the one Kallain Palmer at the back, your coach
and Oarwon Bell homes on the wings to the Brister's
Toyer is not and then but Toyer and Tim have
your il Fido in the Center's d c A and
Monster in the halves. No fun a wayer Grant and

(50:08):
Tino for us are we Ruby corner and I and
Carrigan locks the scrum. Good old Billy Slater. I'll jump
up with my foot spread outside kicking the head Slater,
dadon Collins, Firmer, Trentley Aero Kurkman, Brad Arthur's and Finny Fuyaki,

(50:30):
Jesse the bench, Jesse arthur That's that's all right, Jesse Arthur's.
It's a good side. I like that side Munster in DC.
You're going to cut you as apart. Pub was gonna
have a good game. But he's not gonna take it
back to Newcastle. He's going to score a couple o.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
He is how the Blues the defending champions, the defending champions.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
We've got got a little clip for for your big team.
I'm sure you'll love it. Uh, let's bring it up.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
What are you going to start this? I have a
little bit unfair. I put you on mute rigilate. We
know what to talk about. That's good. You can't talk

(51:23):
you stuff wells can't talk record straight and leave the town,
said bread the champions for that first come.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
SEQ?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Where is Cans?

Speaker 8 (51:48):
Where is it.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
That Quez? But where's the or?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
We've already lost one series, big team, it could.

Speaker 8 (52:14):
Be another one.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
No chance? You got Lury Damon's coach all right?

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Rob the Blues daily back as coach for a second time.
Take us through the site. He is named.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I don't know why people say against Laurry. I think
one of the best most inspirational players ever for New
South Wales and he's won a series. I know I
lost a few, but Jesus, you know, not not that bad.
So anyway, sorry, Jess, Dylan Edwards our fullback, Bryan tot
tou Winger Crighton we hope plays in the centers with

(52:55):
the trail. How was the trail these days? Uh? And
then on the other wing him speaks Moses seven Cleary,
then Bunnett prop, Robinson rhes Robson Hooker, Payne has the
other prop William Martin, and then we have Crichton, and

(53:17):
we have yo as Ao Lock in the scrum, we
have Watson as fourteen the news, fifteen Young sixteen thirteen
is King in eighteen, Graham the eighth man, and then Jess,
you can read out the nineteenth and the twentieth of
your pronunciations.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
You do better than me, So Stefano, Twitter Kamano the
nineteenth man, and Hamal and Matt Burton's actually in the
squad as well. Campbell. Graham is the one on standby
for the Stephen Crichton. And if Stephen Crichton is deemed
ruled out. Actually it's looking pretty much that way. Campbell

(53:59):
Graham will make his origin w Matt Burton will be
the eight enth man for the Blues. Big T, Yeah, yeah, yeh,
big T Queensland bring back the Queensland team. Robert Toyer,
Yeah t I yes, a lot of people questioning that decision.

(54:23):
Only played ten first grade games, He's in his rookie
NRL season, He's the he's pretty much the most inexperienced
player to play for Queensland since Ben Iichen in nineteen
ninety five. What do you make for this selection? Troll
Mitchell and and Angus Crichton on that side of the field.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
He's gonna have a tough, tough, tough case to play
here with Mitchell and he's the other one for Angus rich.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Where's he from?

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Thanks Crichton. He's a young boy.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
And not Angus Crichton. They have a Crichton, Stephen Crichton.
Where's he from?

Speaker 4 (55:05):
He's from Mount Druid.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Where's he played for? He plays for Tonga? Who just
played for? Who just play for? So you can't talk
about that's in Queensland. It's that well as well.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
Should be just Australian playing should be just in a
fast Malawi. Yeah, it's easy, all right. I think that's
a really good side Rooster's player there. He is cut
it up in the Rooster's side.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Him and.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
Mark. I'm going to say they've been spilling it on
that side. They've been killing it. So I don't think.
I don't think he'll miss too much. You're going to
be a top player. You're going to be a ROSSI
player for a long time to come.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
It's saying that Jesse I've seen. I saw Mundine in nine.
He didn't talk so much. He was probably one of
the best, the best five eight and the compting in
selected oriege and stuff like that. Latrell Mitchell this year,
I've seen a different player, a fiddle Latrell. He looks
like a beast this year. I'd be worried with this

(56:16):
poor young guy coming in who missed out, who could
have got selected. He's only played ten or old matches,
so I don't know. I think Latrell is absolutely.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Missed out as well. I think I'm gonna have a day.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Out mate, I really do. I think the trill it's
the best I've seen him in a long long time
so and I'm not a big Latrell support. I just
I just I can't believe what he's been doing this year.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
He frives in the Origin Arena. Latrell Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
He's the fittest I've ever seen. So I just watch
out queens Lean. I think he's gonna run over.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
The top of him, big tea.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
There's a lot talking about how big theclusions of Munster
and Tino for Queensland this year after they didn't play
it at all last year.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
How big?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
How bigger inclusions to Cameron Munster and your boy Tino.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Oh, They're they're huge, mate, play eighty minutes. He can
go all the way. And Munster he's arguably the best,
the best five eight in the game.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
He's up there. You've got you've got a half back
at five eight for the Blues. So he's gonna run
all over him. I think Master is a huge Including
Tino is a huge inclusion. I think Deeden, Deeden on
the bench, he's gonna he's gonna have a great game.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
In the team like.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
The best player last year didn't.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Yeah, yeah, he had to be inside. I was always said,
Dean's gonna going to be in my side, but Tony.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
He was.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
He was pushed by his coach, Trent Robinson towards Billy Sladen,
but he said to Billy Slater, he's origin ready pick him.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Later picked him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
What do you make of the Bell Holmes? Mainly a
center playing for the center for the Dragons. Are you
surprised he's gone with Bell on the wing? I know
he's played plenty of wing for queens.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
It's there all the time. You South Wales used to
have all all fullbacks in their back line. Yeah, he's
fine on the wing. He'll play well there. He knows
what he's doing. He's done it before, and he's done
it before for from North Queensland and the and the Marines.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well news come by. We had injured anyhow, and.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
It's the top elite players are able to play.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
When you're on the wing, coming from center, you defend
on one side. Yeah, we're in the Senate. You've got
to se defend on both sides. So it's a it's
a it's a talent, it's a skill. But I think
he'll be right.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
I'm sure, big Tea.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
I'm both and more being a good form for the Titans.
They've been struggling this year and Trent le Arrow was
in the squad last year get through a lot of
work for the Melbourne Storm. What do you make of
that that?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
I like, he's a good, hard, honest forward guys in there.
Does his job. I don't think he's starting at the Titans.
I think he's on the bench. I'm not sure, but
he's on an edge.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
He's on the edge. Yeah, he's keeping for feeder out
of his preferred side of the field.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
Won't play an other side on the field. He's a
big cry baby gab. We didn't go for him, didn't
get him, and yeah, he does his job every time.
He's just one of the one of those Bellamy players.
So yeah, I think he's a good a good pick.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
I think.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I think, going back to what you said, there's some
inspirational players there. I mean Codder, he never stops but
plays a lot of minutes. Harry Green is very very good,
I mean a very good player. You know what I mean.
But Tino, I know if you guys ever heard the story,
but I think it's a female, lovely lady is the
CEO of the Titans. She absolutely ball yes out which

(01:00:15):
the head of the doing a great job of CEO.
He's such an inspiration, this guy as a leader, as
a player for other players to find. So what you
said before Jesse having him in the side lastly you
know last year and Monster as well, but having Tino
there and then Tommy did at fourteen, I think Tommy didn't,

(01:00:39):
don't forget about it, didn't. He's a very very good player.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
I think thirteen, I reckon, that's tell him coming to
the game, big team. Would you say that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Who's that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Tom did? And you come like as a ball playing
third end, I link up with Munster in DC.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
I think you play anywhere there, he's probably coming over
a ball runner.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
We'll playing. He can do it all. Just be like
playing another half back on the field, so he'll be fine. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Are you worried that there's no size on the bench,
like only one front row in Lindsay Collins Lindsay Collins,
but he.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Plays big minutes too, so the rotation of the front rowers,
I don't think that'll be too much. If my worry,
Lindsay coins to come and play sixty minutes easy, so
and he's always there. Lindsay Collins is a challenge He's
always there challenging for the ball. The bomb goes up,
he's there, Lindsay Collins is there, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Push up front as well, well my car.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Push up Fron. That's right, he's the front rows and
number thirteen, so yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Now we'll get into talk about the Blues team. Rob
Laurie Daily his first time back coaching. He has actually
coached anything in eight years. But are you happy to
see him back in the than the coaching fold. He
was coaching in tough circumstances, really struggle to sleep at
night coaching against that well that once in a lifetime

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Queensland side. But he's got a better slide this time round.
What what what do you maker, team mate?

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I watched this guy stay of origins, I mean, mate,
one of the one of the best players ever to
wear the new South Wales jersey inspiration or captain. So look,
I don't go in for any of this stuff, daiies.
You know you can't coach or whatever. I think there's
good systems in place, you know, with the coaches around him.

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I mean, look, god bloody bellyates there as well too,
Craig Bellamy. So people don't think for one moment, Craig
Bellamy's not giving advice or involved or whatever. I mean,
you can have a better coach to be behind you.
And I'm sure Billy's in the same boat as well too.
He's got a great team around him. It's a whole
team effort right across.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
The ball, so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
The coaching staff as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Ron Yeah, so I mean that's that's a good thing,
positive thing as well. But you know, obviously we got
question marks. Sometimes we've Dean at the Dragons, but we're
on the way up at Dragons as well, to be fair,
but look, with Larry Daily, I think time will tell.
Obviously there's there's three matches about to happen in the
same origin, but look, I think he deserves another game

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and the team's a strong team. I really don't know
if you could really have selected much more of a
stronger team than what's on the paper there, to be
honest with you. So I know there's selectors and obviously
Larry's selector as well, but to be fair, I think
it's a great team. There might have been merits for

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you know, for Jerame to be there, Dreame Leway and
the mas has been selected. So yeah, people can say
you got to right foots all this sort of stuff,
but the majors deserves the spot a space from what
he's done and what he's doing. But yeah, I mean
bloody strong team, so I think having Bellamie there as

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well as is massive for the for New South Walest
so I'll be speaking him to win.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Who do you think runs the team? Rob And there's
a lot of talk that Moses and Claric can both
run the team? Do you think Cleary being Cleary he
will run the team and Moses can just he's not
normally five paramount, so he can just focus on his
reigning game and it gives news but two sorts of
kicking as well, because Moses I think is the next

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best halfback probably in the game in terms of kicking
behind Clary.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Well, to answer that question, he's been interviewed a few
times and when someone says I'm humbled to play with Cleary,
I'm humbled to play with him and he's the best,
clearly the best halfback in the game, almost the best
player in the game. That tells me a lot about
Mitchell Moses. He's just happy to be in the team
and support Cleary to run the team and not saying

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he won't bark in the orders whatever, or I won't
do any kicking. But if you want to call it
second field, I think this is a very havy would
to play second field or the Nathan Cleary and I
think he'll be definitely running the team out on the field,
and obviously Queensland will be in the same bo DC
will run the team. But yeah, obviously Months series a

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magnificent player, so you can play odd league football and
do anything at any time. I make something for nothing,
so but I think Clary clearly will be You're running
the Southwest scene around the park. Stephen Crichton carrying a
carp injury, but right now you would have to say
he's the best center in the game. How big a

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loss would he be if he's ruled out and Campbell
Graham comes in for his debut. Yeah, it's a big
team to see Cridon. To me, he's been magnificent, really
really good from what I've seen in the games of
the Dogs and obviously in the Red game, so he's

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definitely going to be a lost. Cambell Grahame is a
very good player. I've been having a great season. But
what I've seen so far with Crichton, he's been unbelievable,
So definitely going to be a lost Jesse. I'm not
saying Graham, uh, we'll do a very good job filling

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in for Crichton, but certainly for Queensland, Crichton's a loss.
I think he's a dangerous player.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
But yeah, and Rob.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Clear, as Steve's highlighted, I'm Cleary. We've seen he's led
Pen to four premierships in a row, but he's yet
to own the Origin Arena. Do you think it's his
time to step up and really take New Soathwells to
a series when he hasn't on it yet.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Look, all the Jake's a bit Mary and everything and
all that sort of stuff, but I mean there's no
other players we don't talk about the you know, have
long relationships that they you know what I mean, girlfriends
or whatever they ain't see all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
So look, I think it is Cleary's time time from
his step up. He's pretty much done everything else in
the game, So yeah, now's the time. Yeah, and I
guess we're ready to see in this next three games.
So yeah, one sent Jess, now's the time for clearity

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to step up, you know and lead the team around
and win a series.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Yeh, big t. What why is it?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Why is Origin a different beast at sun Corps Stadium.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
This is crowd, mate, the crowd, the atmosphere, remember back
in the eighties when the Cans were all final field.
It's just the atmosphere, It's just the paper. It's just
a sheer mate versus mate, state, worst versus state, you know,
like we gave mate versus mate. We me and you
mean against you mean against rod Wick, mean against Donnie,
me against Benny, me against Puff, me against.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Always against someone. Yeah, the world against the world. I've
got a couple of Queenslands made. I can bring you
in that way.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
I've got a couple of mem But yeah, it's just
a different place to play it. It's even different than
when you play the Broncos. They're totally different. It's the
atmosphere is so huge. Fifty two thousand screaming Queensland fans.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
That's the home of Origin football. It's uncaught the home
of Origin football.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Yes, because it's always been there, hasn't it. Lang Park
sun Corps Stadium, same place, isn't it. So yeah, it's
going to be the home of the home of state
of origin, Big Tea. I mean to win there and
to win there's to win state Roger in the Queensland
absolutely huge.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Not only would they would they throw cans on the
field these games then in the eighties and the nineties,
but they even shake the bus to the bus ride
game to the ground, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
And bottles and drinks thrown at them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
It's an intimidating, absolutely intimidating place to play. I mean,
as a New South Wales player, you run on the field,
you know what I mean, it's almost like you've got
to stop the crowd bullying because I came here to
start the game. It was that that intense. And the
rivalry as well too. I mean when you even you

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see you see Billy any Any, Billy Moore, Queenslander, Queenslander,
the pride, the passion. I mean the eighties and the nineties,
the nineties especially, were you never seen any better Oris
than that. I mean, it was like they go in
the war, so you you know, you crossed that line

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and it was a war, you know what I mean,
it was a straight all it was New South Wales
and queens then to go in the war and that's
what it was, like, I'm going to take each other's
heads off.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
So he's one big team.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Robert Toyer, he's the youngest player to play Origin football
for Queensland d C. The oldest. What's your take on
that one.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Well, one's old, one's young.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
You know, like one was born, one was born in
the nineteen hundreds, the other one was born in two thousands.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Like they say, they say he's going to go, They
say is going to go to his forty. He's going
to leave, go to the roosters.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
He beat some wait, all of them said that. Cameron Smith.
Cameron Smith played at thirty seven, thirty eight, you know, so.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
He was a nothing this year just because it's ages
nothing this year, especially for halves and hookers, because you
can't touch him anymore. Every time I was taking the
ball goes up in the air. Is that half back
kicks the ball? You hit him every time, But it's
changed now, you know that touching. So that's why you

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can play to these.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Forty and Cameron Munster, Lay Martin. It's it seems they
have a big rivalry, the big ta. Do you think
it'll come out on the field tomorrow night? Monster and Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
I hope, so, I hope it does. Get on get
on the Martin's skin, get on to his skin, getting.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
To do something stupid easy Martin does that you get
on your skin, getting get him more rolled up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I heard today, Jesse, did you hear there was something
someone says something to lend you, specs to lend you.
There was some something came from the Queensland camp, wilst camp,
so I meant to heat. I mean, there's a little
bit more of the origin. But I will be surprised
if there's an Orlean brawl at some stage.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Story big robbery.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
I think the big battle will be between Tino and
Paine ass rob.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Oh absolutely, just like Hals his fit. You not not
carrying some sort of little injury. But yeah, like I said,
I've got all the time of world for Teina an
absolute inspiration, but has is obviously for me, the best
prop of the game. So man, what a match up.

(01:12:18):
I mean, that's just that it's like Harrygan I space
back in the day and what was the name of
the guy amounted on claud football now Harrygan and Carol. Yeah,
just just what a match up? I mean, clash of
the Titans mate. The big boys would not want to
meet those boys in the dark alley, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
And Max King named on the bench. Thoughts on that one.
Rob been probably one of the forefront rowers, if not
the forefront row with the Bulldogs this year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Well, absolutely fantastic, so excited. Everybody probably knows the story.
But there's Johnny King a Legends and George yea grandson.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Sulls.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, absolutely magnificent young man. And Johnny King was a
was a fantastic If anybody ever's watch old clips of
the Dragons, Johnny King was up there with the Legends,
Raper and Langlands and Gas and all that. But probably
not the notoriety of those guys, but a magnificent player,
you know, like a praved and players like that in

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the past. So generation, Yeah, for finished young man. And
he's had debilitating injuries as well too, if you if
you've read a little bit of the story behind him,
he's truly believed, you know, I think Gust believed in him,
Gust Gould and gave him a game. And you love me,

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love me to be a dragon, of course, but what
can you do. But I'm excited for him, just from
a Johnny King point of view, and for him, so
he truly deserves his spot. And obviously as much as
he loved to hate the Bulldogs, hate the Bulldogs especially
they are waning the comp leading the comp. So and
he's been playing very well, so he truly deserves his spot,

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you know. In that's seventeen. It's a good luck to
the young man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Yep. Predictions on this one. I'm going to go yeah,
I'm looking forward to see how he goes and I
just hope he does it, goes out and does his job.
I'm going to go the now. The Blues actually have
not won back to back games at sun Court since
Laurie Daily is actually playing back in ninety seven ninety eight,
so that's the last time we won back to back

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games in Brisbane. But I'm going to go the Blues
by eight, and I'm going to go Latrell Mitchell to
be an any trime triscorer, big t wats your tip
Queensland at home to start one mill? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
Of course they will, of course, Queen's name by a million,
Queen's name by plenty. It's going to be they're going
to run over top of here. Carry your three day
over top of here, so you light here, he goes
m No, I think Queen's Land by by eight. I
think I got by eight. I'll win the first game.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
I'm going to say. I'm going to say Toy is
going to score a try.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
On debut and my mate teen if I saw my ai,
he's going to score a try from Queen's Land by eight.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
And I'm going to actually, I'm going to throw in
one too. I'm going to my man of the match.
I'm going to go with Mitchell Moses.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
Because he's the best half back in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
All right, Thursday night, it's another Origin game where the
Blues have a chance at a clean sweep Queensland playing
for pride. But let's go the Blues.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
I had the privilege of being there in that torrential
rate at Alian Stadium four game two, and it was
a great game to watch. Wells just over the top
of them. Jesse soon the Piggs completely. Her kicking game
was enormous. Olivia kurnick Wa an outstanding performance from her
over two hundred and thirty meters, probably the best game
player in the NLW right now, plus Sami mat Taufa,

(01:16:18):
Kezzy Apps still playing very well at thirty four years
of age. She could play for another ten years the
way she's playing. And yeah that the Blues really played
well as a team and they thoroughly deserve to claim
that shield, and yeah it'll be. This game will be
played at McDonald Jones Stadium in Newcastle on Thursday night.
So Abby Church at the back unchanged again, Jamie Chapman

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and Jamie Frizzart on the wings, Jess Surgis and the
captain Isabel Kelly. Are the centers Tiana Penny and Taney
Gray and the Newcastle Girl Jesse Safell. In the Harps.
Up front it is Samima Taufa and Ellie Johnston. Killey
Davis is the hooker. Kesey Apps and Yasmin Klaud's are
the other Newcastle girl and the back row Olivia. That

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player Water plays she has been through this series is
the lock on the bench Joscell kell Hir Kennedy Cherrington,
Sarah Togatuke and Emma vern is the eighth player with
the reserves of Olivia Higgins, Shyley Bent and Bridy Parker.
That the coach is John Strange. Big Ta Queensland have

(01:17:24):
named made some changes. They've got a couple of big
outs to make it up and pick up a hip
injury in that game in Sydney, so she's out. But
there's some debutants in this team as well, with Kearley
Joseph also out due to medical reasons which she's a veteran,
moved from the harms to a different position.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
Big team, You made a couple of mistakes in this one.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Here Halle Medick at the Baculie Robinson and Jasmine Peters
on the wings, and Rory Owen in the centers.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Lottery and Lauren Brown in the halves.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
Well, I've got Kelly Brown on the head, but it's
not Brown's Destiny Brills in that position. Jesse Ellison seeing
Poe Rommy title and Euri big Store at the back
of the scrub. That'll be good, Tony Noise at the
cakes is were stuffed Now it's Georgia headaway safety Holloman

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come Chelsea than I see and Tavanna Papali, Jada Ferguson
and Emma Bass on the bench. Emily Bass on the bench.
So yeah, they worry about they worry about that. That's
the new south Well Side there, But Queensland. That's the
run on thirdeen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Big Tea Queensland. They've been soundly beating in both games.
How big of loss is to make up and though
as they try and avoid a blue wash in in this.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
Game, huge, huge, huge, huge huges. I think she's got
a few weeks out before she comes. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Harry Mannix is she's a good fullback. I don't know
she's up to up to make her Upton's standard, but
I hope our forwards can go at the top of

(01:19:14):
your forwards like Somma town for really Johnson, your two
big front of ours. My god, they're good players. They
went through us last time. But yeah, the girls put
up a good game. I don't know if they're going
to win it, but the strongest side we can put
it in. New South Wals have just been too good.
John Strange is such just such such a good coach.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Ali Briggitts will probably the greatest, one of the greatest
players to play the game. What's your take on how
people have been absolutely bagging her and in the last
week or so about retiring And she's done everything in
the game, hasn't she.

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
She's done everything in the game, But yeah, she didn't
have a very good second game. The first one she
was there thereabouts. With the second game, I didn't see
Ali for the whole game. She was out of the game.
But having on the every in the back Gray in
a five A playing of ball, playing football player, playing

(01:20:12):
the lock, I hope she can she can get that
done another year. I think it's we're saying good players
can play up into their thirty eight to thirty nine,
saying I'm sure brig and Shaw's just going for a
bad spell at the moment, bad spell at the moment
she's getting in a good last last time round.

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
But I hope in the back Gray, she will go well,
I hope she'll go well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Do you think it's her last origin Big two?

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
I think so, Yeah, she might have a couple more years,
got a couple more years left in the inner of
w game. So yeah, Unfortunately, I think it's Ali's Ali's
final final start of origin.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Do you think it's a changing of the guard though,
with with Lauren Brown in the hearts, Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
For sure, brig and Shaw's been there.

Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
Every other time, every other time fifteen years there you
go like, but yeah, yeah, I think it's her last
Lauren Brown, she's an up and coming she's a young
girl coming through. That happens everywhere. Little Queen's name with
their roosters center a toya. So yeah, you go all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
And yeah, but what do you make of the way
the Blues are playing the big Tea? I mean, I
know you're a Queenslander, but yeah, the Blues have just
really steamed role than Queensland. Haven't looked likely to break
them at any state they have.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
And when you've got outside backs Chapman, Surge As Kelly
frezad like, they're probably the full best back Abbey Church
at fullback you've got Pettit Towny Gray and Southwell, what
a great great players they are. It's your front of
hoarse small Mattower and that's spelt wrong whether Ellie John's

(01:22:00):
and as class now Koney fuck me, that's the Australian
Dragon pack. So they got a great time. They've got
a great coach, John Strange. What a great coach is yep?

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
I don't know if you've been watching them with the
women's origin, Robert, what's what's your take on? Would it
be great to see the Blues make it free? Nil
A whitewash in Newcastle. No, h I hope he's on mute.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
He's on mute your day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
I gave Queensland a chance of the first game, not
knowing that the girls as well as yourself, Jess, But yeah,
I mean New South Wales to me look just too domineering,
you know, Big T like the Queensland team back in
the day with Thurston and Cameron Smith. You know the

(01:22:55):
period that with the men there going through there with
pretty much this series, it was gonna gonna be half
used as whiles to win, so the same maybe this
I'm seeing a pretty domineering team with New South Wales.
And yeah, what a fantastic coach as well too, So
I listened. I'll be too strong, Jess. I think it'll
be a clean sleep and yeah New South Wales. Hopefully

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the men can do the same thing as the girls.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
How good would it be if we see free in
both from How good would that be?

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
Dreaming?

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I love to hold a mop funeral the Laura.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
For Big T.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yep, so I'm going to go in this one. I
can't see anything about a blues comfortable win. Too strong,
I think Jesse sample will absolutely have a blinder she'll
be the player of the match. Newcastle girl. I think
she'll step up. And Olivia I think that will be
the best too. But I'm going to go Smoky for

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poor I try at any stage in the game, because
he is an unbelievable form. I'm going to go with
her to get a try at any stage in the game.
The Blues by twenty four, Rob.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
What jesus going roight? What do you reckon?

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Look? I know you're pretty hardest with all these bell Harvey,
So I'll say twelve will be a little bit more.
What do you call it? Reasonable? But nothing would surprise me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Who's your anytime try scorer for the Blues.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I love Surgis, I'd like to score, but Chapman, I'll
put her down for a tr Regon. So Jamie Chapman.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Big t that the Queensland safe face and can restore
a little bit of pride.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
Yeah, yes, sure of course. But I want to say,
Jamie Chapman, she's just she's run, She's a gazelle. She
gets out in the open. We're not going to catch her.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Um I'm going to say. I'm going to say.

Speaker 6 (01:25:03):
I'm going to say Ali Brigging sure to bounce back
to come and have a good game. She'll have a
great game. Destiny Brill back in dummy half.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
Jesus is a great player, Destiny brill. Rummy title, what
a great player. Queen's lame by one?

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Queen's land by? Who kicks the field goal?

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Lauren Brown?

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
I don't care what?

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
Okay, Roy to keep the field goal? Anyone keep the
field goal. Just kick the field goal. Somebody kick the
field goal. Queen's lame by one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
All right, now we'll move into some news and rumors.
First of all, yeah, we had a message from our
CEO and new CEO who started in the top job yesterday,
and here is what he had to say. Let's have
a look. And yeah, this is what our new CEO
had to say. It is with will, pride and deep
respect for the legacy of this great club that I

(01:26:02):
write to you today on my first day as chief
executive of the Saint George Illawora Dragons. I want to
share how honored I am to leave this club and
how I'm excited for what is ahead. From Bateman's Bay
to Arncliff. We are regions stitched together by red and white.
The Dragons are more than a footy team. For many
of this club is part of who they are. I
have come to understand just how deeply our results affect

(01:26:23):
the mood of the entire communities. When we wing, there
is a spring in everyone's a step, and when we struggle,
people feel it. That is not pressure, That is purpose,
and I carry that responsibility with real care. With the
NRL season well underway and our NRLW team gearing up
for their campaign, I'm working closely with Shane flanning It
and Nathan Cross. They are building teams that work hard,

(01:26:46):
believe in each other, and want to do the jersey proud.
Their focus on play development, high standards, and club culture
aligns with everything want the Dragons to be. What sets
this club apart is not just the size of our
supporter base. It is the depth of the connection families
who have followed the Red V for generations, Members who
travel hundreds of kilometers to be at a game, local

(01:27:07):
juniors dreaming of pulling on the jersey one day. The
Dragons are woven into the lives of people across our regions,
and that connection is something we never get take for granted.
I've spent career helping teams backing strong cultures, bold ideas,
and putting fans at the center of everything. That is
what I will do here. We've got big plans, including

(01:27:28):
a blockbuster start at twenty twenty six when we take
on the Bulldogs in Las Vegas. It's a huge opportunity
to show the world who we are and take the
Dragon's brand to a global stage. But it is just
not about the big moments. It is about doing the
work every day to build a glob you can be
proud of. That starts with our new Dragons High Community
and High Performance Center. This will not be just a

(01:27:50):
place to train, but it will be the heart of
our club, a place where young players chase their dreams
with the community comes together, and where the doors are
always open to our members and fans. Hands to everyone
in the red V family.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Thank you for caring so deeply, for being there in
the highs and lows, and for making this club what
it is. I'm here to serve you and I cannot
wait to build something special together. CEO Tim Watsford, and
there Tim Watsford and new CEO. What do you what's
your take on that big t some some strong words

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there from and you CEO.

Speaker 6 (01:28:25):
I can't believe Big Tens a Queensland. Every good podcast
needs grub.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
No, No, he's great.

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
He come from supercars, he's been a few few organizations
before that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
I think he's going to do before.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
I think he's gonna do a fantastic job. The other
guy came from a f L. What was his name,
car car Web. He came from a f L, A
different different ball game, different different people. He done his things,
you know, thinks means well. I got the center excellence

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kicking off and going and I should be finishing a
couple of years times.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
So yeah, hopefully hopefully you go well. And yeah, yep
and yes.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Last week the Dragons actually Dragons and r l W
team had the great chance to train with Alex Volkanovsky.
Rob What what do you make of that one?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
They're pretty incredible obviously very passionate guy. So you know,
it's a good thing. I think when you can get
people from out, you know, outside from another sport who's
a champion to come in, it's only any beneficial hopefully.
Obviously lots of Dragons supports the Dragons, so I say

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bring it on. I think some of our explayers as
well too. I like seeing the X players coming around
you to the camp as well to get involved and
maybe do talk here and there. So I think it's
a great thing, great initiative with that sort of stuff
in the vault. Obviously he's a champion, so yeah, a

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look at his records, so I think when he talks
people listen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Yeah, and yeah, we'll get into some news and rumors.
So Jacob little so then the last week or so,
he's got the mutual option to play with the club
for next year. But there are other clubs circling, such
as the Cowboys who are looking for a replacement for Reece.
Robson mainly are circling as well. He does still want

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to stay with the Dragons. Do you think he's probably
been arguably our best player this season? Big t? What
must we Is it a priority to recent on Jacob?

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
It's imperative we sign him. When he comes on, the
game changes rob'son earlier on.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
It just changes. We've got more go forward, we've got
more attack, you know, like he's being sad.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
West Tigers drawling over him three or four years ago,
five years ago when he was coming through they thought
he was the man. Then had a few injuries and
it's come. I think he's coming back. He's coming back
to the best, best, best form, and we have to
sign him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
We have to sign him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
They agree, big T. And I'll come up with some
past players as an example for everybody. I'm sure that
I know these players. We had a guy called Chuck Mundine,
that a guy called Trent Barrett. They used to be
able to make something from nothing. So basically they are
player that could be on the field that will come on,
or they play the whole game, but be on the
field the time. They could change the game for us,

(01:31:41):
to change make a result. You know what I mean,
you get a try for us or whatever. Little has
that ability and you can't lose a player like that.
He's dangerous. We don't have a player like that. He
can make something from nothing. We really don't. We have
a good team and we have individual players is going
to try. But this guy literally can change a game

(01:32:03):
for us. And you don't lose a player like that.
And I'd say the Dragons, if the Dragons are slack
and stupid about the way they gave out this, we're losing.
Because there's no doubt Rees Robson leading to the roosters.
North Queensland will go. I would be if I was

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North Queensland and Manly in the same probably the same
bat as well. They've got the money with Terry Evans
out the door, so mate, we're going to be very careful.
We're losing, and I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Do you think it's anything to do with Damien Cook
being the starting nine?

Speaker 7 (01:32:40):
Rob?

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Oh? Look, well yeah obviously, you know, and I really
don't care what anybody says in the sense of we're
all crazy Dragon supporters, right, but there's a thing called pride,
and it's nice to be at the number one. It's
nice to be the number nine in your back, the
starting harbit, right, no matter what anyone he says. You know,

(01:33:03):
I think it is a little bit of answer to
him to be the fourteen and being on the bench,
and you know he doesn't deserve to be that player.
I mean, god, in most of the other NRL teams
you'd probably be starting to be honest with you. So
it's a typical it's a tough pill to swallow for him,
you know what I mean, being on the bench. But

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in saying that, yeah, if that's part of his part
of his reason why he's not happy. If it's if
there's truth to it, then we're probably a big chance
of losing him because, like we just said, there's a
couple of teams there where he will start, obviously, But

(01:33:48):
I hope it's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I hope he'll just keep on getting more minutes. And
we just said cooking a little on the field together
at the same time, we said, to me, a better team,
So why not keep that going? Well, you know, I
think Flannet is growing to it. But yeah, they seem
to probably even outplay our halves and they're playing together

(01:34:09):
on the field at the same time. They can make
more things than our own halves can, so it's just
stupid not to be playing them at the same time.
But Jessee, I obviously can't answer the question. I am
really worried that we're going.

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
To lose him.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I am where the money comes into it as well.
Whether he will get off with more money. I guess
maybe he might wolf coins, they might give him more money,
you know what I mean, So that could be an
issue as well. I don't know what's in the coffers
or how much Flannet or the club want to reasonably paying.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
But big Tea.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
He's been one of our best players, hasn't he?

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
So it's a very difficult situation.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Now, one that's come through today. Dragons seem to be
linked with about every player but Big Tea. With the
Dogs very close to signing Lock and Gal when it's
pretty much a done deal. Toby Sexton reportedly has spoken
to the Dragons. Is he someone you'd be looking to get?
He's been in good.

Speaker 6 (01:35:12):
For he has been a good forward the Balls. I
thought he was been for last year, but I heard
the room he's going back to Titan. So he's just
using us as a step to get more money at
the Titans.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
I reckon, But would.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Would Would Toby Sexton be a guy you'd like to
have at the Dragons?

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
Oh, Toby Sexton and Daniel Lakinson. I don't know. It's
a different, different combination.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
It's not something you'd be open to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:35:47):
I don't know what they're looking at. I think he's
going to Titans anyway, so I wouldn't be looking at
him at all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Okay, now we've got saw a feel good story from
one of our nral W players today and let's have
a look at it. One of our absolute stars of
the team.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
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Speaker 12 (01:36:17):
People pushing through barriers is something tiagan Berry is used to.
She's the Dragon's longest tenured player and the erl w's
all time leading triscorer, who goes to the twenty three
year olds off season spent working part time in disability support.
Taking clients out for the day just.

Speaker 11 (01:36:39):
Makes you look at the bigger picture and I'm really
fortunate to be in this position and to seeing my
clients just love what they do makes me just feel
so happy about it.

Speaker 12 (01:36:47):
The job now taking a back seat as pre season
ramps up. It's the dawn of a new era for
the Dragons nrl W side, with Sammy Bremner arriving as
female football manager and the appointment of Nathan Kross as
head coach.

Speaker 11 (01:37:01):
It's really refreshing to have a new coach in this year,
and I think the girls are really buying into what
we're doing, and yeah, it's going to be a good
year for us.

Speaker 12 (01:37:09):
I think She'll be the first to admit she's not
one of the louder voices in the squad, but now
in her sixth year at the club, her influence can't
be ignored.

Speaker 11 (01:37:18):
I like to help everyone in their own different ways,
and I think I just like to leave with my actions,
and obviously I have my input here and there.

Speaker 12 (01:37:26):
Very recently, Rate committed to the Dragons until the end
of next season and expects big things ahead with the
squad boosted by seven your recruits, and.

Speaker 11 (01:37:35):
There's a lot of experience that has coming this year,
and we've also got a lot of young girls coming
through the rank. So to combine them two together, I
think it's a really good team building so far.

Speaker 12 (01:37:46):
The squad continues pre season ahead of their Round one
clash on July fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Jack maney Win news.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Nice, very good to see we're taking Bury there.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
Yeah, I saw her a long time. I can't give
her one year deals. Come on, stop and do more.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Yeah, we've got to keep her long term, that's for sure,
and yeah, hopefully we do have an improved year.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
But yeah more j.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Six six, six weeks until the season starts, big t
So the countdown is on.

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
Nice, nice all right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
Now, we'll get into that tips for the week, so
we'll just go to since we're pressed for time, so
we'll just go one tip each so being our game
is the first game of the round. Saturday, three pm
on the Gold Coast Big t the Titans will play
the Melbourne Storm. The Titans have named Jalen the group

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at fullback despite four and starting in the harbs last
game against the Raiders, which Shaw Brimston go back to
fullback and Jacob alec Weenk is the new player on
the bench for the Melbourne Storm, actually actually for the
Titan as well. Fodder, Waker and Tino have been named
to back up for origin as for the Melbourne Storm,

(01:39:04):
and they have named all their Origin players as well
with Munster Grant Coats, Lierra and Stefano if he does
take his place, and also Harry Grant. What do you
think he And there's been many tipping that Harry Grant
probably won't back up Titans or the Melbourne Storm.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
I think Harry Grant might play seventy eighty minutes for Queensland.
But yeah, Melbourne Melbourne have been differently. Some games have
come out what what what the floor with you? And
some games are coming and lose the close ones. You know,
Melbourne are very up and down. Titans are another team,

(01:39:43):
very frustrating, very up and down. I'll go for an
upset Titans at home, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
The five thirty game on Saturday Rob will be the
Cowboys taking on the Tigers up in Townsville. The Cowboys
are unchanged. It looks like they are un changed. Oh
they do. Welcome back Ruben Cotter permitting his does back
up from my origin jeremih and a and and here's

(01:40:13):
the other one. Oh Tom didn't have been named to
back up for from for the Cowboys after origin and
for the Tigers, Heath Mason has been named at five
eight with Lachland Gowan off to the Bulldogs. Yep, and
that's their only change.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
I'll be quick for you. I think Cowboys. I think
Tiger's a little bit of a spiral at the moment.
And I think Cowboys would be too good at home.
And I think the Gobys I feel'll be ther devising
on the cake and Cowboys will be too strong, too good.
Cowboys are bepro.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
I reckon you have bit the Bulldogs by round fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
That's my ground these days?

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
Do they?

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Saturday Night at seven thirty five, Big tea up at
Brookie it's the Manly Sea Eagles taking on the Brisbane Broncos.
The Broncos it's been a long time since they've visited
Brookie because normally Manly and Brisbane play at Magic Rounds.
So but Manly have requested to for Brisbane to make
the trip down to brookbell Over this year. Big blow
for many. The Troboyevitch brothers Tom and Jake both out

(01:41:22):
Lehighpowarti will play fullback, which sees Tommy Tala come onto
the wing. Day Treevans, the sole Origin representative for for Manly,
has been named to back up for Brisbane. Jesse Arthurs
has been named at full back, which sees Selwyn Cobbo
shift to the wing and Ben Takura, the Big Giant,

(01:41:45):
comes ono the bench for the Broncos. Corey Pakes will
start at hooker with Billy Welters going back to the bench.
Patrick Carrigan has been named to back up from Origin Big.

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
T Yeah, well, Brisbane coming down to four points park men.
Brisbane have been terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
They have been awful. They've won one of the last
six both very oh yeah, exactly right. But Chrisbank got
something going on behind the scenes. The players don't like
the coach and yeah, and one of their big players
who has a lot of pool around there. With Rhece Walsh,
I think he's the main instigator up there. So yeah,

(01:42:29):
four Points Park's tough place to go and when we did,
but yeah, I'm gonna go manly, I think mainly mainly
at four.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
Points Sunday afternoon, two o'clock it'll be the Core Stadium
rob the Rabbit o's against the Warriors. Their sole origin representative,
Latrell Mitchell has been named to back up and Camill
Grant potentially if he does debut tomorrow night, and Mitch Barnett,

(01:42:58):
the Warriors origin representative, has been named to back up.
Jamesons is back from suspension. Rabbits well inside the top
eight of the Warriors. They probably played one of the
games of the year against the Raiders last Sunday. Do
the Rabbits continue to defile the odds or have the

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Warriors impressed you that they will get the job done
and bounce back here?

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
Mate?

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
So because the Warriors in the raised game, it's one
of the best games this season if you guys thought
the same thing. But incredible match. So yeah, I mean
the Warriors play like that, I think they'll beat anybody.
So I have to tip the Warriors, but I've been
impressed with the Rabbits because the rabbit As just have
this steering ability about of staying games, come back in

(01:43:45):
games and win games. At the crunch and team, oh yeah,
well coached and we found out right we were ahead,
they came back that are playing in the men. Yeah,
so we'll get anything good happen. Jesse, I'd have to
say the Warriors on that last game against Camera, but
I wouldn't be surprised. See South Swim as well too,

(01:44:08):
and obviously Mitchell's key if he backs up as well.
But yeah, it's a tough one, mate, to be honest
with you, but Warriors are just yeah, they were just
too good against Camera. Those are the best games I've
seen this season.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
So I'll say Warriors and question out out of the
bluebit from what you saw from them on Sunday, do
you think they're a top four side?

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Absolutely, if they can continue to punch. I mean obviously
they're getting solid out crowds in New Zealand, which is
a massive help. I mean we always talk about winn Stadium,
there's a sell out there, how good it is, So
you imagine New Zealand really set out crowds and how
vocal they are, so it's a big lift for you.
But yeah, on that form that we saw on the weekend, Yeah,

(01:44:56):
definitely if they can consistently keep it going. Obviously got
a very good half.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
You know, he's the half back half back.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Yeah, sorry, he's very very good player is Yeah, a
bit of a quite achievement in the sense that how
good is he in what he's doing. So yeah, I
look definitely at the moment top four. Yeah, it all
falls apart.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Now Sunday the four oh five game, Big t the
Battle of the West Paramount.

Speaker 6 (01:45:36):
And Battle of the Spoon Paramount always played Battle of
the Spoon, don't they Well they're actually third last at
the moment, they're ahead of ahead of the Titans. What
a team of the Titans on four and against.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
But had they all been named to back up. But
in previous years they've had the luxury of resting them
they have, they have the position. Now they don't have
that luxury.

Speaker 6 (01:46:04):
Well they ain't, they ain't. No way there, I'm sure.
I'm sure, clear your back up, I'm sure. But it's
the teammates on Wednesday, go head to head on on Sundays,
Just and Cleary, you know like they get into each
other head during during state of Origin. We're going to
beat you this weekend and I played bad for New

(01:46:25):
South Wales. So that's how it works. We need to
have the Straights you this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back up to for paramount.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
Our back up, Lome actual back up. You'll do a
lot of the arts, a lot of the arts for
New South Wales to go PARAMOUNTA.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
Yeah, I agree. I think Paramouna on the improved.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
And the final game of the round. This is probably
the game of the round. The Roosters, they've hit some
form recently. The Roosters they absolutely destroyed the Sharks, the
full strep Sharks last Saturday night. The Ravens playing a
brand of football as well. The Roosters do welcome back
five Origin stars are permitting. They all do back up
with Robert Toyer, Lindsay, Colin Spencer and you, Angus Crichton

(01:47:12):
and Connor Watson. The the Raiders do welcome back Hudson
Young as their sole Origin representative roll. This is the
game of around. Surely both teams in grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Big big game. So where's it at.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
Jess it's Ali in Sydney.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Yeah, jeez, I'm loving what the Raiders are doing. But
the Roosters are just I don't know, they're own Kenny,
aren't they the way? They're not enough team. So I'm
going to go for the for the upset against the Raiders.
So I'll go for the Roosters, even though I don't

(01:47:47):
want to go for the reason when to go for
the Raiders, but I don't know something about the Roosters.
So if they've got all those players going to be
coming back, I think there are smoking for the top eight.
The russ is so yeah, I hate them, but I
think they'll be.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
And that that's and that wraps up the round. It
it's just short round on free teams have the buy
this week in the Bulldogs are Sharks and Dolphins as
we have the players back up from Origin for the
first time this year. But the most important game of
the weekend, which will kick off I'm Round thirteen, will
be on Friday night Big Tea when the Dragons take

(01:48:30):
on the Nights. Can we edge closer towards the top
eight and get the victory. It's our first game at
Cogar nearly two months.

Speaker 12 (01:48:37):
We have to.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
Yeah, we have to.

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
We have to the Newcastle. One of those teams are
going to be in and around, in and around the eight.
And if we want to be in the eight, we've
got to beat these teams. Yeah, I think I think
we've got to beat them.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Who have to win. I'm going to say Dragons are
gonna win by eighteen.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
And yeah Slain Slain to continue his Trish coor and form,
and I'm sure Jacob Liver when he comes on he'll
get over to so.

Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
Dragon's by a few. I think that's gonna be a team. Plus,
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Rob I hear here, big t. I absolutely think we'll
smash Newcastle. I'm liking what I'm seeing. I think we're
on the up across the park. I think we're going
to be way too strong, and I think we're staying
to believe in ourselves that we can win consistently and
win week in week out, in the respective of you

(01:49:37):
know who might be in the team. I think we're
all believing it, and they're all playing for each other now.
And we've got some Keynes as well, and take touch
and back. He's a freak, absolute free This guy's a
tackling machine, running machine, fitness, and value to our four pack.

(01:49:59):
I assume we too strong. Obviously, there is always inconsistency,
but I don't know. I think he might be starting
to get over those hurdles, and I think we believe
in ourselves. So you're going, I'm going, Jesse Simon made
big T set alien plush and we put some some

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points on the forward against for the top.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
Eight for against actually isn't too bad. It's minus eleven
at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
We put it in a good plus territory with a
b win so well.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
And we've got a couple of winnable games coming up too.
We got we got back to back Friday night games
in the next fortnight. After this, we head back to
Brisbane to take on the Dolphins. So a big, big
Fortnite do coming up. I'm going to go the the
money there. Christian too will return and he'll he'll do
his try celebration again and he'll he'll he will light

(01:50:55):
up the crawaony rob.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Yeah, no exciting. I agreely too. I think See two
will definitely get over in the game, so I'm excited.
I actually had me for an m k T try
as well too. It will be nice, you know what
I mean, just for him to get over as well too,
and I wouldn't be surprised to see across the trail
line as well as another one in the back line.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
We'll finish off with this for the night. That's where
dragons and r W players actually had their content day,
where they had their photo day, and and then time
on the media, and that's where we'll leave you for
this evening. So thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Thanks everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
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