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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you all. It is great to be back. I
am delighted. I watched the show while I was away,
and I thought it was really good. I have to say, I,
you know, it's what I wanted. You know, how parents
want to parents so that their children are able to
go out in the world and be good adults and

(00:24):
not need the parents anymore necessarily. And that's the way
I felt. Kim, Michael Shore and J. L. Cove and did. Yeah.
I really thought it was quite quite impressive. Loved it,
loved it, loved it. Great to have everybody along. Today
is a day where we will review many many things,
among them our dear President and my Lord and Savior

(00:46):
Donald J. Trump addressing the cadets that was at West Point. Kim,
is that where he was, that cadets at West Point?
And then he followed up with a poignant Memorial Day
address during which he trashed the criminal crime family of

(01:06):
that was crime and all the criminal time you know,
Joe Biden and what I'm mess he left for my
Lord and Savior. We'll review some of that also. David K. Johnston,
the Pulitzer Prize winner, joins us today as he does
on Tuesdays and Jefferson Graham, the Tech Specialist, will be

(01:28):
joining us as well. Yes, I did receive many of
your notes, your letters, your emails, your missives.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I've received a lot of positive letters.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'll show you one that is particularly cool. Look at this.
I don't know if you can see this as a dog.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh cute.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
And let me tell you something about me. I'm extremely
sentimental and I'm extremely emotional, as you know. I really
feel like I'm on the verge of tears all the time.
And I don't know why that is, and I should
probably get into therapy or something. But I'm super, super sentimental.
So this was sent to me, and it was sent,

(02:13):
you know, by one of our listener viewers. For those
who are just listening in the podcast. It's a card
with a picture of a dog on the front, and
when you open it up, it's this sort of almost
it's a it's not like almost like an origami dog.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's a fuck a pop up German shepherd or yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, pop up. You kids have the pop ups.
I don't not as familiar with that. I guess that's
the thing you guys are doing. It's very cool, and
this is the sentimental part on my deathbed. If you
look around the room, I'm betting this will still be
there because I could never throw this away. It's so
adorable and sweet and great, and I don't know I've

(02:54):
got that if Kim wrote me like a note of
some kind, a.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Sweet note, you can throw it out.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is true hypothetical because she would never do that,
but I would hold onto it. I have posted notes
from my mother still like so so. But this is
from Russ. Uncle Russ is what he is in the chat,
and he says Mark encloses a little donation to the show.

(03:23):
I can't always contribute monetarily on a regular basis, but
I hope this helps. I've been a loyal listener and
supporter of the show on YouTube since day one. I
think I was one of the first one hundred followers
on YouTube. My neighbor Blue Spark turned me onto the
show many moons ago on KGO, and I've been a
fan ever since. Yeah, you, Kim, Albert, Tony Courtney and

(03:46):
the rest of the team are doing an awesome job,
and I wish you continued success. My friends. I'm not
just woke, he says, I am Mark Thompson's show woke.
He said, you don't need to acknowledge us on the
air whatever, but I was really and I have to

(04:07):
tell you sent us a really nice donation to the show,
which is quite special, and I got another card. I mean,
you can you see that?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
So is that a lady on front in a rocking chair?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yes, it's a lady. Thank you for describing. Is it
a rocking chair or I think it's just a chair
outdoor garden kind of chair. No, you think it's a
rocking chair.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think it's maybe, you know, an allusion to you
and your rocking chair. What reading the Wall Street Journal
in the rocking chair? You know?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, I.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Lit out on the porch.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
This is from Julie and Sebastopol.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
She is soo Mac County represent.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, representing well well, dear Mark Kim Albert. I've been
a KGO listener. We came this show from a radio
station in the San Francisco Bay area called KGO, Big
news talk station, and it went away as part of
a corporate conglomerate thing. So that's where it's sort of
our origin story. So when you hear people reference KGO,

(05:19):
those of you who just jumped on, that's what that's about.
But she talks about the fact that she misses Courtney's
true crime corner, so I know we are going to
bring Courtney on to a do kind of a She
even says one or two times a month or so,
we are going to bring her to do a true

(05:41):
crime update. But that's so sweet. And she also made
a donation to the show, so that's great. A lot
of people's what is it, Tony, Oh Papa books were
created around twelve forty, just so you know, Oh, well,
thank you, thank you. Oh wow, Tony with it. That's
a really man. They've been around a while. And I

(06:04):
got I got a lot, I got some nice note
from oh this will just just appreciate this. This this
is Susie and she Susie the Ginger Hill girl. Tim
gets it done, and Albert too, she says, wow, Kim

(06:26):
gets a shout out. I appreciate that. Yeah, And they
are in I believe the Pittsburgh area, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Shout
out to Pittsburgh, and she mentions a political race going
on there and I'm going to give this Sarah Terry,

(06:52):
can you see that? Yeah, Sarah Terry, if you're in
that district where Sarah Terry is running. She apparently is
someone whose values you might likely vibe with. There are
eight candidates elected out of twenty running, so she's throwing
her She's throwing her oomph behind Sarah terror you can see,

(07:18):
endorsed by Planned parenthood, knows the job, ready to work,
the right choice. Sarah Terry and the Court of Common Please,
this is Alleghany County in that right.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, She's represented hundreds of clients, has experience in all
four divisions of the Court of Common pleas committed to
trauma informed justice. She addresses root causes to ensure fairness,
real solutions for Alleghany County families. Sarah Terry, and she
has the love of one of our listeners to the show,
and we wish you good luck. I got so many

(07:55):
nice notes, a lot of people really stepping up. We
just finished our Spring coaching fundraise and as a result,
I think a lot of people were comfortable sending checks
who weren't comfortable with the Patreon PayPal or even the
super chats, which is sort of an ongoing way to
support shows that you are enjoying with watching. I should say,

(08:20):
and if you want to reach us, or you want
to send a check, you can reach me at the
Mark Thompson Show at gmail dot com, The Mark Thompson
Show at gmail dot com, and then I'll send you
back the address, and that address you can then use
to send a check if that's your preferred method of support.

(08:43):
So everybody who did that, thank you. Those are just
a handful. Really, I'll share more as the week goes on,
but it really is encouraging. And there's our web page,
the Mark Thompson Show dot com, and there are links
to PayPal and patreonic if you just want to click
through there. That's a great way to support the show.

(09:04):
I've tried to really not hit supporting the show all
the time, all the time the way we had to
do it at the beginning, but we were in a
fiscal pinch and a lot of you guys really rode
to our rescue, and so I wanted to acknowledge you
here at the top of the show Thompson's Show, Wilma says,
welcome back, Thank you, Filma. You are an og of
this show. Loving it. Hit the like button, yeah, hit it,

(09:25):
smash it, Come on, man, smash that like button like
a ball.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Smash it with your iron rod.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Do it with your iron rod? Baby? Why not? Well,
it's been a very busy weekend. We had a long
weekend Memorial Day. I was inspired by the words of
our president and my lord and say, here Donald Trump
at his Memorial Day address. I thought it fitting and

(09:50):
very very Trumpian that at the end of his address,
and some of that address we will share with you,
he noted to the graduates. So this is the West
Point Address, not the Moral Day Address. The West Point Address,
he noted to the graduates. He said, I wish I

(10:11):
could stay here. Now you'll note I mean I know
that again. Joe Biden doesn't get any credit for anything.
He can barely stand up, barely can put two words together,
can't think, can't speak whatever. Well, he showed up at
that West Point thing himself, and I believe he shook
hands with every graduate, with every cadet. Trump didn't have

(10:31):
time for that. And this is the trumpeting part, he said,
because I have to go back and deal with Russia
and China. You can google this, you can find it
is actually what he did. It's still lay and apparently
Russia and China who said he had to go work
with and he had to, you know, get in touch

(10:52):
with They must be the names of his golfing buddies,
because that's what he did immediately following They Point commencement speech. Yes,
so he there's nothing wrong with golfing, not even anything
wrong golfing after the speech. But you know the very
thin lie, which is I wish I could stick around

(11:15):
and shake hands with you all, but you know, I'm
a president. I gotta go do president stuff and I.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Have a tea time.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly. Don't want to keep Russia in
China waiting. So that is that. The other thing that happened,
and again we'll share pieces of the West Point speech
and also the Memorial Day speech with you in a second.
But the other thing that happened, and it's just one
of those weird things, but it did get a little virality,

(11:42):
you know, it did get a little high profile. Thing.
Was this France's president, Makrong.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, he was shoved in the face by his wife.
The only reason we see it is because the door
to the plane is open, and everybody's speculating as to
what it might be. I mean, you know, who knows,
but here it is the plane door opening. You can
see macral on the left, and you see she's got that.
She shoves him in the face, and then he walks

(12:11):
out with a smile, and I think he extends her
his hand to her, but she doesn't, doesn't grab his hand.
She walks down behind him. Run from the beginning again
maybe or is this it the slow mo on it?
Here it is, here's the slow mo of the door opening.
Macrow there and there he gets it.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, he says. They joke around a lot. They were
messing around and she just kind of, you know, that
was a joke. You know, she was kind of pushing
each other and messing with each other.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean, you do that, don't you, Kim You mess
around with David that way? Absolutely hit him in the
face like that, say something stupid. I smack him in
the arm. Absolutely, that's what happened. Sure, so you excuse me.
I've got to just have a couple.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Of them here. It is up close.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, as you watch Macraun and his wife lovely. Now
she is older than he is. I believe Macrawl's wife
is older than he is. And the reason I think
that it's all noteworthy is it's kind of it's somewhat unusual.
Usually it works the other way. Right, they are not
holding hands as they walk down those stairs from the plane.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Now, although they are walking side by side, it's not like.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
She is well. She wants to keep the conversation going
behind him. Grumble something in French. Yeah, I don't know.
Hitting someone in the face. That's a little yeah, I
don't it's kind of a face smack. I think there
might have been something going on there, but hey, you know,
relationships or relationships, sometimes they can get a little intense.

(13:53):
French President Macrun As noted by Tony, who is our
amazing researcher, the age gap between Emmanuel and Bridget Macral
has been a frequent topic of discussion, sometimes controversy. The
couple's relationship began when he was a student and Brigitte
was his teacher. He is forty seven and she is

(14:15):
seventy two. What that is great? I love it? Yeah, yeah,
come on, it's uh, it was very inappropriate and I
think it quite impressive. Yeah, Brigite twenty four years older.
How do you say that in French? Anybody? No one knows? Yeah,
it's blue. How it's twenty four? You don't how to

(14:36):
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Speaker 3 (15:50):
Wow at seventy two, she's not taken any crap.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
The let's says, I love the French in France. Me too,
me too, I love it. I don't know how can
you say that? I mean, I don't know if they're
rude or not, and clearly something. Are you sure it's
only a cult? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I
might have picked something up, you know from the trip.
I must tell you Alaska is a wondrous place. You

(16:15):
just because the trip was mentioned, and I'll get back
to news. You must, I think, go there if you can.
There are so many ways to get there now, I mean,
meaning their cruises, their excursions, you know, you can fly in.
And I just think it's some It has the and
this is something of an illusion, I think. But it

(16:36):
has the look of a place that is unspoiled. It
has the look of the wilderness. It has the look
of wildlife and being immersed in nature. And the reason
I say it's say it's an illusion, of course, is
because Alaska is being plundered and has been plundered for

(16:58):
its resources, for its mineral for its oil. In the
beginning the Russians had it. They had literally they killed
all the sea otters in Alaska. Imagine that there were
tons of sea otters in Alaska. The Russians. It was
a Russian territory, right, it's part of Russian The Russians

(17:19):
came in, furriers did or whatever you call those guys hunters.
They killed literally all of the sea otters. There were
none left. And the reason America has Alaska, as you know,
is because the Russians felt that they'd already plundered it.
They squeezed everything of value out of it, because back
then there wasn't you know, oil and mineral kinds of

(17:42):
sourcing that we have or that was to follow. So
the Americans came in and said, hey, we'll buy it
from you for you know, a song. We got it
for seven million dollars Alaska, and then of course we
find what oil, and all of a sudden that became

(18:02):
the greatest deal ever. And so Alaska's oil reserves and
mineral reserves have been exploited for quite some time, and
it's been a tug of war between the wilderness, nature
and the environment and that which stands to exploit a
lot of what is underground and around and even the

(18:23):
timber industry, as you know, it's kind of open season.
So if you talk to Alaskans, they speak about this.
They speak about and depending on how old they are
and depending on their perspective, they'll talk about the fact that, yeah,
I don't know, the big companies came in here and
they've kind of ruined it and they want to ruin
it more, and or they'll talk about the fact that

(18:46):
you see that the timber industry is really going after it.
It sort of is deceptive because when you go to Alaska,
it just looks as though there are limitless resources. There's
no end. We all know how that works, right, And
these very fragile ecosystems, of which there are many in Alaska.

(19:08):
That's the beauty of it. The nature there is insanely
terrific and just resplendent, you know. I mean, it's like
everyone just hits you in the face, the ecosystems because
their fragility. You end up screwing up a lot of
things by just going in and cutting and drilling, et cetera.
I mean, again, I gave you the Sea Otter example.

(19:28):
That's you know, that's what really happened, and you know
what happened with the Valdez oil spill, right destroyed all
of those fragile habitats that were there around the Valdis
and so and there are other examples as well. So, look,
there are ways to do these things to extract a

(19:50):
lot of these resources and maximize our use of resources
without destroying the environment around it. But that's just against
the backdrop of in of course, salmon and you know,
the fisheries, and you know, even in the history of Alaska,
there were so many salmon that you know, people talk
about the fact that you could walk across a large

(20:11):
body of water just walking on the back of salmon.
There were that many, and then of course they got
fished out, and then salmon became endangered all of a sudden.
The livelihood of these fishermen and all those people who
depend on the fishermen coming to these places, and all
of the you know, the various the various businesses that

(20:33):
exist in these towns built by the fishing industry, they
all suffered, and then policies had to be put in place,
et cetera. So a lot of the stuff, that is,
the things that we wrestle with when it comes to
respecting the earth while also using the natural resources. I
feel like Alaska's ground zero for a lot of that.
But we just loved being in that environment. It was exciting,

(20:57):
it was amazing. It was filled with you know, eagles
and whales and all that stuff that you hear about
that reminds you of what a wondrous place this is.
I mean a singularly wondrous place planet Earth is.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Did you do any excursions while you were.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Gone, Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We took
we took a one of the most striking well, there
were a couple, I mean we yeah. Wow, what a picture.
If you're just listening, there's a Tony's got a shot
up of a This is kind of a fjord there
in Alaska, and there is a whale literally jumping out

(21:34):
of the water. The entire whale is out of the water.
And that's what you see there. Now again, we saw
we had some great whale sightings. Look at that meadow
and all of the colors and the glaciers. We saw
all these glaciers that have now receded from the last

(21:55):
time we went. We were there about I want to say,
nine years ago, but it's a It's a wonderful place
and I recommend it, so definitely check it out. That's
my two cents on Alaska. But yeah, on the at
least on the on the ride there, there's the Alaska
Glacier that I don't know which glacier that is, but

(22:17):
there's one that looks like that. That Mendenhall Glacier is
very famous and it's receded enormously, but it's still super stunning. Yeah,
it's the right word. So that jump is called breaching,
says Murphy rowing. Yeah, so what was the temperature like?

(22:39):
It was chili? It was definitely cold. We took a
I was just beginning to tell Kim that we took
a ride down these bodies of water that are kind
of shallow. We took it in a a raft. It
was a rubber raft, but there are only six of
us in the raft, and that was really immersive. It

(23:01):
was quite special. I mean, imagine, you know, you're not
on some big ship or something. You're right down in
You're enveloped by this beautiful environment. But I will tell
you to your question. After an hour, I was freezing
my ass off. It's like, okay, I got it. I
love being enveloped. But I'd like to be enveloped by
some heat right now. So so there's that, But uh,

(23:24):
I encourage everybody to check it out. It's a it's
a great part of this country and a lot of
it is being exploited even as we're speaking. As you know,
new administration has it, you know, top of the list.
So that's the you know, Mark Thompson Show. All right, now,
let's let's get into us. I will talk about the

(23:46):
Crypto dinner, and I want to talk about it with
David K. Johnston a bit. But I thought we'd get
into a little bit of what happened over the Moryal
Day weekend. We'll start with the West Point address. Donald
Trump spoke to the West Point? Are we doing this
in chunk of Trump?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Kim?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I have lost my hymnal, so I don't.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. We could just trump it up,
you know.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I want to try to respect the rules and rags
of the show. I mean, you know, I mean we
have processes and protocols, and we have processes and protocols
and Stunned, maybe you've forgotten those, Kim. While I was away,
I mean to get.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
A little loose while you were away.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
And yeah, I noticed that it kind of went rogue
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Tony, can you do it? How about getting this going?
It's a chunk of Trump, open wide. Ready, here comes
you're chump of Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It's my favorite food.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
With your first bite, here's Mark Thompson.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Thank you everybody. Let's let's let's go right to his
West Point speech. There's nothing more inspirational to me than
hearing from my lord and say you're Donald Trump as
he speaks to the West Point graduates. Tony, let's give
it a ride.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Big homebuilders, and he became very rich.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
His friend, then an acquaintance of his, decided to sell.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
He was offered a lot of money by a big conglomerate,
Gulf in Western They didn't do real estate, they didn't
know anything about it, but they saw the money he
was making. They wanted to take it to a public company,
and they gave him a lot of money, a tremendous
amount of money, more money than he ever thought it get.
And he sold his company and he had nothing to do.

(25:36):
He ended up getting a divorce, found a new wife.
Could you say a trophy wife. I guess we can
say a trophy wife. It didn't work out too well.
But it doesn't and that doesn't work out too well.
I must tell you a lot of trophy wives doesn't
work out.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it made him happy for a while at least.
But he found.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
When he's doing it, my bad. You don't have to
stop it, tony. We'll be talking over a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So he sold this little boat and you got a
big yacht.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
He had one of the biggest yachts anywhere in the world.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
There's going to be a moral to this.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
He moved for a time to Monte Carlo, and he
led the good life, and time went by it. He
got bored, and fifteen years later the company that he
sold to called him and they said, the housing business
is not for us. You have to understand when Bill

(26:29):
Levitt was hot, when he had momentum.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
That's the guy he's talking.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
He'd go to the job sites every night.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
He'd pick up every loose nail, he'd pick up every
scrap of wood. If there was a bolt or a
screw ling in the ground, he'd pick it up and
he'd use it the next day and put it together
a house. But now he was spoiled and he was rich.
He was really rich. And they called and they said,
this isn't for us, this business to other things.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Would you like to buy it back. We'll sell it
back to your cheap and they did. He bought it.
He bought it.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
He thought he made a great deal, and he was
all excited. But it was fifteen years later. He lost
a lot of momentum. Remember the word momentum.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's what he's getting at cam momentum.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
He lost everything. It just he lost everything.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
And I was sitting at a party on Fifth Avenue
one night, a long time ago, and yet the biggest
people in New York, the biggest people in the country,
all in that party, and they were all saluting each
other how great they were. They were all telling each other,
I'm greater than you gets to be.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Really, he's your headache sometimes.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
But they had all these people, they're telling their own
stories about how fantastic a cocktail party.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
And I looked over and I was doing well. I
was I don't know. I was invited to the party,
so I had to be doing well. I was very
very young, but I made a name in real estate.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
And I looked over and at the party, sitting in
a corner all by himself.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Nobody was talking to him. Was mister have it?

Speaker 6 (28:01):
He'd just gone bankrupt, lost everything everything.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
His home wasn't well he was, and he was bankrupt.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
I went over and talk to him because he was
in the real estate business and I loved real estate.
And I said, hello, mister Lovett, how are you? He said, hello, Donald,
It's nice to meet you. He knew me from being
in the business. I said, so, how's it going goes
not well, truly not going well, as.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
You've probably read. It's been very, very tough period for me.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
So I.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Said, so what happened? It's anything you can do. He goes, no,
there's not a thing I can do.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
He said, I'll never forget it. He said, I've lost
my momentum.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I just can't have it.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
I used to have it, but I lost my momentum.
So it's a story I tell. And you have to
know when you have the momentum, but sometimes you have
to also know when you've lost the momentum.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
And feels sometimes leaving what.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
You're doing sometimes is okay, but you gotta have momentum.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
But you have to know that momentum is gone.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
You have to know when to say it's time to
get out. And it's a very sad story. I remember
that story so well, like it was yesterday.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That's a sweet to have the courage to take a Yeah,
that's a sweet story. And by the way, all of
you are going to be getting these uh make America
Great Again hats like the one I'm wearing right now.
I mean these guys at West Point, I say guys
generically men and women. By the way, it had to
kind of make Trump irritated, you know how they feel
about women and minorities. The I believe the the person

(29:44):
who spoke for the children, they call them for the children,
for the graduates, the valedictorian. The valedictory speech was given
by a woman. That's right top of the class. Yeah
it was a woman. So Adi Mark d Ei Oh
hi Mark Kim Albert from Chaplain Fred with a five
dollars super chat. Thank you, Chaplain Fred.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So the snoozes were for Donald Trump's speech.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, he's definitely disease. So Trump was meandering doing his thing,
as I say. At the end of the speech, he
noted that he had to leave. Wish that he could
meet everybody, but he had to get back to Russia
and to China. And then of course he left and

(30:31):
he went to play golf. And that is the truth,
and if you google it, I find it is indeed
the case. Just one of two speeches that Donald Trump gave.
The second speech was a Memorial Day speech, and his
Memorial Day speech, again, this is to recognize all of

(30:52):
those who've made the supreme sacrifice and given their lives
in various ways to this country, in various theaters, war
and various military exercises. And these are all military veterans
who've lost their lives and their families who all commemorate
that loss. It's a profoundly somber day. And Donald Trump

(31:18):
sprinkled a little bit of what you would call a
campaign rhetoric into his Memorial Day speech. Here's a little piece.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Young men could never have known what their sacrifice would
mean to us, but we certainly know what we owe
to them. Their valor gave us the freest, greatest, and
most noble republic ever to exist on the face of
the earth, a republic that I am fixing after a
long and hard four years.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That was a hard four years we went through. Who
would let that happen?

Speaker 6 (32:02):
People pouring through our borders unchecked, people doing things that
are indescribable and not for today to discuss. But the
republic that is now doing so very well. We're doing
so very well right now, considering the circumstances, and we'll

(32:23):
do records setting better. With time, we will do better
than we've ever done as a nation.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Better than ever before. I promise you that.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And it's interesting he did additionally write a Memorial Day
missive of some kind, didn't he cam? He wrote a
Tony's got it up there. I mean, we don't have
to read the entire thing, but it's pretty pretty on
brand for him. Happy Memorial Day to all, including the
scum that spent the last four years trying to destroy

(32:55):
our country through warped radical left minds, who allowed twenty
one million people to illegally enter our country, many of
them being criminals and the mentally insane, through an open
border that only an incompetent president would approve.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
And wait, this is our thought. It was a Memorial
Day to honor our word debt. Yeah, well that's helping here.
Maybe you'll get to that Oh okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Only in competent president would approve and through judges who
are on a mission to keep murderer's drug dealers, rapist
gang members and released prisoners from all over the world
in our country so they can rob, murder and rape again.
I'm sorry I said the R word because that's going
to get me demonetized. But I've already said it a
couple of times. It's funny the president can put it
in a Memorial Day address, but when I say it,

(33:41):
it gets me demonetized. I will say this that you know,
we can side eye this, which we're doing. I've only
read half of it, by the way it goes on,
and I will I can read the rest of it.
But I wanted to note that these are serious things
he's saying. You know, we can side eye it, and
we can kind of go, oh my god, he's just
such a joke. But you know there are judges being

(34:04):
threatened in all of that. And did I freeze up
on you? I'd see my internet? Is is it? Okay? Yeah?
The so I I worry about this stuff. I mean,
obviously these figures that he mentioned is twenty one million
and all this sort of thing he's just pulling that out.
That's just completely you know. But when he goes after

(34:27):
judges like that, it's a it's a serious thing. There's
a call here to I mean a kind of implicit
call to you know, what could be eventually kind of
stochastic violence. Excuse me. So I worry about this stuff,
and I worry, you know. In other words, this caustic

(34:48):
rhetoric does have an effect over time, and so again
the solemnity of Memorial Day. He doesn't get the seriousness
of it. He doesn't get And there is a rich
irony in a president who lied about his medical record

(35:08):
to get out of military service, who has smeared gold
star families, who has made fun of those who have
made sacrifices in the past. There is a I'm talking
about military sacrifices, sacrifices of their lives. They've come back disfigured,
They've come back in all sorts of ways that will

(35:31):
have ripple effects through their lives until they have nothing
but their reflections left. All of these things from a
president who has made no sacrifices. As I say, this
kind of rhetoric is just utterly inexplicable. It's truly inexplicable.

(35:52):
It's almost parody, you know. So at the same time
that Donald Trump was doing his West Point stuff and
his Memorial Day stuff, there were other commencement speeches going on,
and Scott Pelley, the anchor from CBS sixty minutes anchor

(36:13):
as well, he made comments and they were directed right
at Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
Here you go, in this moment, this moment, this morning,
our sacred rule of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack,
universities are underattack. Freedom of speech is underattack, and insidious fear.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Is reaching.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
Through our schools, our businesses, our homes, and into our
private thoughts. To speak, in America, Power can rewrite history
with grotesque, false narratives. They can make criminals heroes and

(37:17):
heroes criminals. Power can change the definition of the words
we use to describe reality. Diversity is now described as illegal,
Equity is to be shunned. Inclusion is a dirty word.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
This is an old playbook, my friends. There's nothing new
in this. So these are the calls. They continue. But
we are where we are. But this Memorial Day weekend,
with Trump making of public remarks, making a lot of
what seemed to be sort of ad lib stories, and

(38:06):
riffing on Memorial Day about the Democrats, about Biden, about judges,
et cetera. I mean basically just keeping the blowtorch cranked
up to ten. It was an extraordinary contrast to some
of the speeches that were given nationwide. There were some
great ones, there were some stirring ones. But that's your

(38:26):
chunk of Trump.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
That's it for this edition.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, I really enjoyed it, but make sure to join
us again next time.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I think you might want to listen. There's nothing will
worth listening.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
For another chunk of Trump.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Mm hmmm. Glad you could be with us for a
live show two to four in the East and we're
eleven to one in the West, and then we will
break out some pieces of this show. There was a
question I got Tony. I've received a lot of positive letters.
This was to me to the Mark Thompson Show at

(39:01):
gmail dot com. Hi, guys, is there a problem with
your podcast? The latest available download was last Thursday, Friday,
and Monday seem to be missing. Love the show and
hope you can fix it. Kindness regards, Kathy. Well, yesterday
was Monday, and that was we were dark Monday, and
an observance Memorial Day, Friday is up now, Friday is

(39:24):
up now?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Thank you Tony.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
It was oh is it? He was going to blame Albert, okay,
at Albert, thank you, but I can't. Tony's taking the
blame for that. So if you want to, By the way,
Friday Show was a best of but also with some
new content and it's really good. That first hour with

(39:48):
David Sarota and Timothy Snyder, Wow, really good. So definitely
check out Friday Show if you haven't, and if you
want to get on the podcast train, you can definitely
do it. A record number of Americans are applying to
become British citizens everyone.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
You know what is interesting about that this story is
right right after we played Scott Pelley's Wake Forest graduation
speech when he's talking about how you know these things
are happening in America and it makes people afraid to speak.
It would make sense to me then that people who
are feeling that fear would turn to other countries like
the UK.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes, absolutely right. I mean when you one of the
things maybe the cornerstone of this country is the freedom
of protest. The protest speech is supposed to be the
most protected, and yet it is clearly the most threatened,
and it looks as though they're using all of these

(40:51):
different excuses to silence it and going after universities the
way they have academic institutions, going after media institutions, the lawsuits, ABC, CBS,
et cetera, talking about, you know, pulling the license of
these various outlets, media outlets, and it's going after these

(41:16):
legal institutions, the institutions associated with the law from of
the biggest law firms. And you're seeing the total capitulation,
the total surrender they're pre surrendering to this in this country,
and you see in a way, the door to a
fascistic regime being opened and being kept open. I'm leaving

(41:36):
out the corruption, the payoffs, the payoff I'm leaving all
that out. So yeah, you could see where maybe Britain
would become an option, or at least leaving would become
an option. So record number of Americans applying to become
British citizens during the first three months of this year
after Donald Trump retook office as president. This is official data.

(41:58):
The last time American applications for Britain citizenship spike was
in twenty twenty, during Trump's first presidential term. It was early.
It was early in the COVID pandemic. What's that, Kim.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It's funny that it would be again him, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah. The British government, though, is toughening the requirements that
they have for legal migrants and extending the weight for
newcomers to claim citizenship. So if you're looking to become
a British citizen, it might be quite a weight. It
may not happen. How many US citizens applied for British

(42:35):
citizenship over the past twelve months through March, the highest
annual figure since records began in four The answer is
sixty six hundred eighteen US citizens applying. That's in nineteen
hundred and thirty one applications between January and March. That's
the highest number for any quarter on record. There's also

(42:58):
a record number of Americans seeking to live and work
in definitely in Britain, and that is a necessary precursor
to citizenship. You have to have work there, and again
there are other ways to you know, if you have
a spouse or you have other family links to Britain,
you can get citizenship there in a kind of fast

(43:20):
track way. But interesting that American citizenship now being abdicated
surrendered for British citizenship.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Can you be you can be dual citizens right, You
don't have to leave your American citizenship behind to become
a citizen of the UK.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You can have dual citizenship. Obviously we all know people
have dual citizenship. But I think if you're applying for
British citizenship, you are giving up your American citizenship.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I don't think you're just like adding citizenships to your
I think you can sh I mean, it's a oh,
I'm pretty sure that that's right though. But you know,
they have that real ID thing going now, and they're
using the real ID and lack of real ID in

(44:15):
this country I'm talking about as an excuse to bust
people in this country for not being citizens. There was
an incident in Alabama with this twenty five year old
construction worker and ICE agents went to that place. I
believe they were from ICE and they looked at his

(44:38):
real ID and they said it was fake and they
had an arrest operation going on that was, you know,
directed to wrap up all of these people. It's always
weird they talk about, you know, we're going to get
these violent criminals out. Those are the people are going
up after first, but the reality is they go after
those who are working on construction sites and agricultural fields.
I mean, it's crazy. These are the people who are

(45:00):
holding up your economy, and you know, these are people
who are just trying to feed their family. I'm not
saying that there isn't an immigration issue that should be addressed,
but it's not being addressed the way that you guys
said you're going to address it. In fact, i'd suggest
that it's all, like so many things in this administration,
it's theater. It's we're going to make high profile deportations.

(45:23):
We're going to call local media, we're going to call
the networks, we're going to get doctor Phil and we're
going to do these things so everybody sees that we're
kicking people out of the country, and everybody can go
raw raw. He's doing something about the immigration issue. But
the reality is it doesn't conform with those things that
you told us you were going to do. You said,

(45:44):
violent criminals first, and then we'll worry about everybody else. Instead,
you're going into areas some of which were protected in
prior years, right churches, schools, hospitals. Now they're going into
all those places and it's been authorized by executive order.
So anyway, this guy, twenty five year old guy working
at his construction job in Foley, Alabama, officials arrived to

(46:07):
arrest workers there. This guy was born in Florida to
Mexican parents, and they said that his real ID was fake,
and according to an interview, officials took out his wallet,
removed his ID, which does comply with higher federal security

(46:29):
standards for state issued driver's licenses as well as IDs.
They said that it was fake. They cuffed him. He
says the cuffs were put on quite hard, and later
he was released when he gave them his Social Security
number and verified his US citizenship. I mean, what's happening

(46:53):
is it's going to have a chilling effect. It's already happened.
It's going to have a chilling effect in construction sect
it's going to have a chilling effect in agricultural areas.
It's going to chilling effect in kitchens, restaurants, sanitation services.
These are all areas in which there are many people
of questionable legal status, and some who have perfect legal status,
they just may not have a command of English, so

(47:14):
they end up doing janitorial work. Et cetera, just like
this guy. And the chilling effect is that these people
aren't going to show up to work, especially when a
mistake can be made. A mistake can be made to
the point that they literally deport you to a prison

(47:34):
in El Salvador, notorious for torture and abuse. They acknowledge,
the US government does that it was a mistake, and
the courts say, you've got to bring this person back,
and the administration ignores it. And as I've told you before,
Garcia is not coming back ever. He is emblematic of

(47:56):
a policy, and he's become a cause celeb, come very
high profile. And because of those things, Trump doesn't want
him back in the country. They'd rather see I'll just
say it. I mean, they'll kill him down there before
they bring him back. How awful. It's despicable, it's gross,
and it's not about him. It's about I don't know

(48:19):
who he is, what he is, whatever, but I know
that none of those guys had due process. Great, if
he's a bad dude, tell the judge show it and
get him on a plane. Those immigration courts run like
traffic courts, boom boom boom. But it's scary anyway, that's
a little bit of what's happening with citizenship. So Americans

(48:41):
are headed to England hoping for something there in terms
of citizenship. Also, there are other places where Americans are headed,
as you're aware, Mexico, Costa Rica, Portugal is a huge
area of expats right now headed there. So we'll see.

(49:03):
But for those who are trying for England, it's getting
harder and harder by the hours.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Mark Thompson Show, I did want to let me see
what I want to get a little news from Kim
before the Great David K.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Johnston comes on. Yeah, let's do that. Kim's let's shoehorn
a newscast in here. This is the latest of what's
happening on this day as we come to You Live.
Kim's news will bring us up to speed, and then
David will talk about all things. We'll talk about that
crypto dinner. Some of the identities, in fact, many of

(49:46):
the identities of those in attendance are now known. We'll
talk about what they got. Many of them felt jypped.
Can you say that anymore? I think, and I think
that's a majorative. Actually, so I'm sorry I said that
they felt stiff chet cheated, Yeah, cheated exactly. They felt
as though they paid a lot of money, which all

(50:08):
who did, and they didn't even get a picture with Trump,
which is a lot of what they wanted.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
And I heard the food was horrible.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Food was airplane food. Apparently it was awful.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
The only drinks that were available water or Trump wine.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Gosh, it's so unusual for you to pay a lot
of money and then get to screwed on something that did.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Wait, eight dollars, can't even get it Gen and Tonics. Yeah,
can't you get some Napa Valley wine? What it all right?
Let's let's get it on. I'm uh smashed the likes.
Smash your iron rod.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Thank you anticipated me, smash the like button. Kim's news
and we will continue with the Great David K. Johnston,
Mark Thompson, Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
On The Mark Thompson Show, I'm Kim McAllister. This report
sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. President Trump says Russian
President Vladimir Putin is playing with fire, follows his criticism
of the Kremlin Sunday for attacks made on Ukraine, where
the United States is attempting to broke or a cease fire.
Russian drones and missiles bombarded more than two dozen cities

(51:25):
across the Ukraine over the weekend. The Kremlin responded to
the criticism Monday, citing emotional overload at this very important moment.
War between President Trump and Harvard is escalating. Multiple reports
say the Trump administration is asking federal agencies to now
cancel the remaining Harvard federal contracts. It's worth about one

(51:47):
hundred million dollars. This comes as the White House as
accused Harvard of racial discrimination in its admissions process while
hiring as well as they're hiring, as well as not
doing enough to end anti Semitism on campus. So this
all continues. The Trump administration meanwhile is halting interviews for
student visas. Reports say the decision comes as the administration

(52:09):
considers requiring foreign students to undergo social media screening. US
embassies are being ordered to put a hold on scheduling
new interviews. Details on what possible social media vetting would
screen for that hasn't been provided. The COVID vaccine is
no longer being recommended by the CDC for Pregnant Women

(52:30):
and Healthy Children. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Junior making the announcement in a video posted on
x on Tuesday. Previously, the CDC had recommended the vaccine
for everyone six months and over. King Charles is defending
Canada's sovereignty. The King gave a speech to Canada's parliament

(52:51):
Tuesday without mentioning President Trump by name. He said the
country is self determining, adding freedom is a value held
dear which the government is determined to protect. The King's
visit to Canada, a member of the British Commonwealth, comes
as President Trump has continuously called for the country to
become the fifty first state of the United States. Speaking

(53:15):
of England, authorities in Liverpool say terrorism is not suspected
after several dozen people were injured when a van crashed
into a crowd of people on Monday, a crowd was
gathered to celebrate Liverpool's Premier League soccer championship. A fifty
three year old man, who police suspect was on drugs,
was taken into custody could face attempted murder charges. In

(53:36):
that the company that hosts President Trump's social media platform
is going big into bitcoin. I know you're surprised, right, No,
Sarasota based Trump Media and Technology Group said in a
news release that it will now offer one point five
billion dollars in stock and borrow another billion to create

(53:58):
a Bitcoin treasury. CEO Devin Newness says the cryptocurrency will
help Trump Media avoid harassment by financial institutions and help
with future plans that include subscription payments. Trump Media and
Technology operates the Truth social platform and the Truth Plus
streaming service The Little Bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
The world of crypto is a world that facilitates dark money,
facilitates corrupt money. It's a terrific way in which this
administration does connected the administration. Those who just want to
you know, even have nothing to do with the administration.
Those were involved in all kinds of legal activities human trafficking, narcotics,
et cetera. They can all get every kind of payout

(54:40):
as a result of their ability to transfer money, and
it's untrackable. So the other thing, of course, is that
undermines the power of the dollar and the idea somehow
that you, as a nation, the United States of America,
would have a crypto reserve. It's absolutely insane. The only
reason to do it is associated with corruption. It's to

(55:03):
prop up those friends of Trump and Trump himself who
are involved in the crypto game. It's truly, it's truly
wild to see the USA, I mean, undermining their own currency,
the currency of the United States. Of course, that the
dollar is used across the world. It's the power currency

(55:25):
for well, Petro dollar is the big thing, right. If
you want to buy fuel all over energy, all over
the world, you're using It's done in dollars. So why
do you want to weaken this currency in any way?
It's really uh, the only explanation could be corruption, and
that's what I think the answer is in this case.
I mean, Devin Nuness is involved. I mean, look at

(55:47):
the characters and Devin Nuness and Donald Trump. Boom, there
you go.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
The president of France, as you mentioned earlier, Mark is
downplaying a video that appears to show his wife stoving
him in the face. The video is showing Macrone and
his planes doorway as he arrived in Vietnam late Sunday,
when a hand an arm with a red sleeve appeared
to shove him in the face and Macrone quickly recovering
waving to the crowd, before his wife, dressed in red,

(56:14):
appeared alongside of him. Monday, he told reporters, we are
bickering and joking with my wife and a video becomes
a sort of geoplanetary catastrophe. He also told a French
television station, it's all a bit of nonsense. Apple shares
fell another three percent after President Trump announced a possible
twenty five percent tariff on Apple products. The president wants

(56:37):
Apple to produce iPhones in the United States. Apple trying
to figure out how to handle the tariffs if they
are implemented. The company stock has fallen twenty two percent
year to date.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I mean, he's going after, you know what, the most
successful company in the world. And again they're an American company,
and just like Donald Trump, they get their stuff made
in China. I mean that was a fox Con. Is
the name of their factory. Remember it's it's brutal. I mean,
the conditions at fox Con are brutal. They've now tried

(57:11):
to redirect a lot of that to India, but he
wants to bring that production to America. It will never happen,
and you're just going to end up having to pay
a lot more for the iPhone.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, they say it's not feasible to do that. And
so then how much are we paying for an iPhone?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I mean twenty five percent more? So you'll pay what
what is that? Three hundred dollars four hundred dollars more.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
President Trump accusing California's Governor Gavin Newsom of illegally allowing
men to play in women's sports. The President is now
threatening the withhold of federal funding from California. This comes
after Trump said a transitioned male athlete won everything at
a major athletic event in California. The primary sponsor of

(57:55):
President Obama's historic healthcare reform law has died. Former New
York Congressman Charles Wrangel first elected to the US House
in nineteen seventy one and served for the next forty
six years. Wrangel was ninety four years old. Another passing,
Rick Deringer, whose hits include hang On Sloopy, has died.
Multiple reports say he passed away Monday at the age

(58:17):
of seventy seven. He's best known for rock and roll
Huchiku number twenty three on the Billboard Hot one hundred
in nineteen seventy four, Wow and another passing as well.
Especially for folks in the Sacramento area. Longtime Sacramento news
anchor Stan Atkinson has passed away. His family says he

(58:39):
died Sunday at the age of ninety two. He served
in the Korean War before starting his broadcast career. He
was on the air for a long time. Yeah, Stan
Atkinson passed away. The script's National Spelling Bee, marking a
big anniversary this year. Nine spellers competed in the first
National Spelling that happened in nineteen twenty five. More than

(59:04):
two hundred and forty students will compete for the title
of best Speller in the United States this year when
the contest kicks off today in National Harbor, Maryland. Preliminary
and quarterfinal rounds will be live streamed on the Bounce
XL platform today and tomorrow. The rest of the competition
will be broadcast on the Ioan Network Ion Network on

(59:25):
Wednesday and Thursday nights.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
We used to do You'll recall many of you who
have contacted us say they used to listen to the
KGO show. We were on KGO Radio to radio station
in the Bay Area, and we used to do an
annual spelling Bee that was at the same time it
paralleled the scripts Be. We had listeners call in and
we would give them words, and it was quite hotly contested,

(59:48):
as I recall, yeah, yeah, I kind of missed that.
But we just you know, obviously can't do it here.
So we have the scripts B. But I love the
scripts B, and I encourage you to see the documentary.
What's it called, Tony, the documentaries called There are two

(01:00:09):
films about the Spelling Bee. One is a documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
There was a movie called Aquila and the Bee.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Right, that's the drama. That's one of them, Aquila and
the Bee, and the other is ya Tony can google it.
There's a documentary. It's really good and it goes into
the intense training of these families go through Spellbound. Thank you, Tony,
bravo the Spellbound. It's still a good watch. It must

(01:00:34):
have come out fifteen years ago or something like that,
but man, everything about it I'm sure is still right.
And they follow these families and these entrants and it's terrific.
So I recommend it the movie Spellbound.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Lastly, there's a family in Kentucky. They're doing a little
bit of cleanup today after a bear fell right through
the kitchen ceiling. Look at that, Tony found pictures the
Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife says it was determined
the black bear and climbed up a ladder, got into
an opening in the home's attic, and then crashed through
the ceiling, landing right on the kitchen stove.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's a bear. I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Arriving officers were able to get the bear out of
the home by getting it to run through an open door.
No injuries were reported, but you know that's a that's
a day when a bear falls through the kitchen ceiling
and lands on the oven.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Tell you I'd say so. Yeah.

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Yeah mm hmmm. I'm kim McAllister. And this is the
Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Who's Mark Thompson.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
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Speaker 7 (01:03:25):
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Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Would you like to apologize for what you've done?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Community, to Asian American communic.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
I misspoke, my man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I'm sorry, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Can all go to hell, and I'm going back to Texas.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
That's not fake, that's real.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You just don't get it. You don't you get nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Certainly.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
I love it when you're angry. Can you let him finish? Sir?

Speaker 9 (01:03:57):
Say do this SiO a time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I don't know what I will do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
There's never been anything like this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
You never been a member of the Chinese comments party?

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Where am I we smoking at?

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
You like to ask for recess.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
They pay me a lot of money to have the attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
He's fantastic. Wow, I love it. Someone was angry at me, Kim.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Sometimes I'll jump in. I'll go, yeah, whatever, Yeah, that's right.
I love it. But I'll say something like that, and
then I'm trying to find it now, So let her talk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Oh, I love when you jumped in. It's like news
and commentary.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
And I'm supposed to know jump in. I mean, Eric CBD,
let her talk. It's okay, Yeah, my god, CBD. Chill
out a little bit. Yeah, I want to get to
and remind me that I want to get to. Uh. Yeah,

(01:05:11):
we get David K. Johnson about nineteen seconds. But I
wanted to be reminded from you Kim, if you would,
I want to get to that story. In Texas with
the Ten Commandments debate, they're going to be putting these yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I mean, David, they want to weigh in out
of it. We have the we have the We've got

(01:05:32):
a lot of stuff to talk about. We've got the
debate on the floor. Yeah, Texas House.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Yeah, it's a really good debate. I thought that was
really interesting. And in the end Texas decided, yep, they're
going to display the Ten Commandments in every public school
classroom across the state of Texas. I don't know how
this is legal. I would expect that there will be
challenges in the court. But if we have the video,
let's take a look. And I think David K. Johnston

(01:05:59):
will preciate this as well. This is the debate between
the folks that sponsored the bill and people that are thinking,
maybe it's not the best idea.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
Asking teachers to be theologians or asking teachers to display
the Ten Commandments.

Speaker 10 (01:06:15):
You know how important the Ten Commandments are to me
and how important my faith is to me, and we
have an honest disagreement about the role of the government
in this kind of policy. So I just want to
have a conversation about that. The first Amendment forbids the
government from establishing a state religion. Is that something we
can both acknowledge and agree to.

Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
I will agree with the fact that we don't want
government telling religion what to do with Do.

Speaker 10 (01:06:40):
You believe religious instruction for children is the job of
parents and pastors or government employees.

Speaker 9 (01:06:46):
Again, we're just talking about a display of the Ten
Commandments here.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
So I think the only reason politicians in this body
would be micromanaging what posters are put up in a
classroom is if we want children to read the posters.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Would you be.

Speaker 10 (01:07:02):
Comfortable with adding language requiring parntal consent from all the
parents of students in the classroom before putting up a
religious document on the walls of the classroom.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
No, I would not.

Speaker 10 (01:07:12):
So you're against parents having a say, I mean, their students.

Speaker 9 (01:07:15):
I'm against sure that that proposed amendment. Yes, I think
that that we need to return to the foundational truth.

Speaker 10 (01:07:23):
How do you think it makes a Hindu student feel
to have a poster in every classroom that says thou
shall not worship any God before me.

Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
Again, if they have come to the United States and
are they are living here, they're born here, they're citizens,
then they would love probably enjoy celebrating what made our
forefathers so different from over every other nation in the world.
We're not asking teachers to be theologians.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Okay, that's that. I was going to run after David,
but this this is fine, and David I'm sure has
some thoughts on it. Again. You know, they dusted off
this Ten Commandments thing ever so often, but they may
have met their moment where they can push this through.
As Kim was noting, he is a Pulletrer Prize winner,
so gracious to spend time with us given his immense
body of work, prolific author, journalist, investigative reporter, now professor

(01:08:15):
at Rochester Institute of Technology. He's the great David K. Johnston. Everybody, Hi,
Hello Mark, David. I give us maybe a second or
two on what's happening in Texas with the Ten Commandments.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Well, you know there was years ago the Bill of
Rights was introduced in the Texas Legislature with a resolution
denouncing it a communist propaganda and then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
As propaganda is that what you saying?

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yes, as communist propaganda, and the Texas Legislature passed the resolution.
So you know, we've always had legislatures full of people
who are idiots, and Texas just happens to be one
of the leasting sources of this. I'm not sure with
this Supreme Court, what would happen here? The the uh,
the Supreme Court we have right now is very problematic.

(01:09:06):
So I don't know. This is absolutely improper. And the
lawmaker who was challenging us raise the right question, what
if you're what if you're Hindu or atheist or anything else?
And there is, without a doubt, a serious effort here
to impose a version of Christianity on the American people

(01:09:27):
despite the Constitution. And we have appointees who have no
idea what's in the Constitution, much less what's in the Bible.
And by the way, if we're going to start posting
Bible passages, well let's go back to the opening episode
of the West Wing selling daughters, executing people for using
two different fabrics in in cloth, stoning people to death

(01:09:50):
for working on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Of ancient document ancient guys, right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
Yes, yes, and not one, not one word in the
Testament written by anybody who actually knew Jesus. Who I'm
sure that most American Christians would be shocked if he
did come back, because he's not blonde, he's not white,
and he doesn't have blue eyes. But you know what, all
this is a diversion from dealing with the real issues

(01:10:17):
in this country, which are that we are failing to
educate our young people. We have a cohort of children
now who are used to quick, mediate gratification of the
kind you get from TikTok we are. I just gave
a talk this morning at the local Jewish community center

(01:10:39):
and people stayed for two hours after the talk to
keep talking. And one of the things that was discussed
a lot, because some of the fifty or sixty people
who came were teachers or professors, was this serious decline
in fundamental educational standards and knowledge and we're falling behind

(01:10:59):
the rest of the world. I've mentioned on the show
before that when I taught at Syracuse Law, my students
who came from China were just so far beyond my
American students and the ones who had gone to school
in France, Norway, the Netherlands, South Korea, and Japan. Similarly,
they're just a whole other class and we're worried about

(01:11:20):
putting up you know this nonsense about the Ten Commandments. Yeah, right,
are which are offensive to some To some people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
The distractions do seize the news cycle, and and as
you say, I mean, they're legitimately offensive in many ways,
but you're right, they they seize attention such that they're
a distraction from the horror show that is going on.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
I mean, yeah, we're not. I mean we're not funding
public education at an adequate level to do the job
we have. Years ago, I wrote in I think my
first book thirty three years ago about how Baltimore, Baltimore
County and Maryland gave four hundred million dollars to Art
Modell to bring the Cleveland football team to Baltimore and

(01:12:08):
rename it the Ravens. And they did so at a
time when there were children in the Baltimore schools with
science textbooks that said, quote, someday man will walk on
the moon, which had happened in nineteen sixty nine. You
sort of can't make up this complete loss of fundamentals

(01:12:31):
and basics. And people like the woman lawmaker whose name
I didn't catch, who live in this world of well,
this is the way I think it should be and
therefore that's how it's going to have to be, which
is just childish. That's what children do. What they wish
to be true should be true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Yeah, I think her name is a candy noble in Texas.
It's well as it neither sweeten nor noble asno, And
as you say, you know, we're seeing this now, and
we saw we've seen it in so many of these
fundamentalist countries where a bulk of the population learns the Quran,

(01:13:11):
let's say, and they know the Quran, they read the
Koran every day. But the rest of science, the rest
of history, it all is denied by the complete focus
on the religious study. And you hate to see us
in any way, you know, edging toward that, which, as
you say, even if it just takes funding away from
those things like science and history, it's a bad thing

(01:13:34):
I want to ask you about. Yeah, go ahead, please, Well,
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
You know, imagine what would happen if instead we took
a secular approach to this and said we're going to
post just a set of moral values on the wall
that aren't religious. Be nice to other children, respect your elders,
you know, wash your hands so that you don't spread
disease to other people and don't cough on them. Why

(01:13:59):
do I think that wouldn't gain popular support among the
right wing Republicans in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, it's well, and very last thing I would say
as you look at the ten commandments. First of all,
who's gonna explain adultery to the second grader yet?

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
The first three commandments I think are all you know,
I'm the God, The second one is don't have any
other god. Remember I'm the God. And the third one is,
you know, respect the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
It's all these things that are you know, as you say,
not applicable in the ways that you've just described, like
a code of conduct or anything that would improve their lives.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
It's so, I mean, all ancient religions essentially taught the
same thing, which was, you know, be kind to other people.
Rabbi Hillel said two thousand years ago something along the
lines of your duty is to treat other people the
way you would treat yourself. Everything else is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Just commentary.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
Yeah, the commentary, now go study.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yeah, right, right right, it's the golden rule.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
You argue about teaching moral fundamental moral values, which would
include you know, pay attention to your school work and
be serious. But that's not what we're having pushed. And
it's being pushed by people who all you have to
do is listen to candy nobles answers. You realize, you know,
this is not a deeply thoughtful or educated person.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Well, David, I have a Lord and savior and it's
Donald J. Trump, and he had a big crypto currency dinner.
We're kind of now learning the identity of some of
these folks who are part of his dinner. And by
the way, many of them were not happy, David. I mean,
one guy who was happy is Donald Trump, who scooted

(01:15:42):
in and scooted out. It was apparently again there was
a twenty five year old social media influencer, a car enthusiast,
a I think a twice indicted crypto bro. These were
the top tier v IP, the attendees, the top twenty
five holders of this Trump mean coin. They spent four

(01:16:06):
point eight million dollars. That want of them to sit
on the phone. One spendable thirty seven million. I think
one of them spent thirty six or thirty seven million dollars.
This is just monetizing the presidency. No one has ever
done this before. Donald Trump, you do it when you
leave office.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Ronald Reagan left the White House and immediately went and
gave a speech in Japan for two million dollars, and
people were shocked and upseted him for doing this, but
you know, he went and did it. Bill Clinton left
the White House basically broke, immediately sold a book that
brought him like thirty million dollars because it sold enough copies.

(01:16:42):
That's where it came from. The royalties from this. But
you don't do it while you're in office. And that's
what Trump is doing. He is selling access to the
White House, and he does it the way Donald does it.
Oh yeah, you paid thirty six million dollars. We'll all
come in the room and wave to you and not
even shoot a picture with you, and go by the way.
I get emails every day from Donald telling me I

(01:17:04):
want your opinion and I want to fly you tomorrow
Lago to talk to me. And it's all nonsense. But
there are millions of idiots in America who believe that,
you know, Donald really wants to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
He flew in on a helicopter. Apparently it was visible deliberately.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
I'm sure a US government taxpayer finance helicopter.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Well, it's funny you say that, because he may have
violated the law. There is a law about using the
presidential seal, and he addressed his crypto investors from behind the.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Seal after the White House spokesperson Carolyn Levitt said, this
is not an official act of the president. This is
him on his personal time. I didn't know presidents had
personal time. But okay, so he has no protections, no
immunities from this. Let's see, now, who could prosecute him. Oh,
Pam Bondy, the corrupt Florida lawyer who is his attorney

(01:18:05):
general and lapdog. Yeah, right, that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
H three hundred and ninety four million in total, as
you've noted.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
That's the gross take. We don't know how much of
a Donald got, but went in all likelihood probably north
of three hundred million dollars. And this is, you know,
the airplane, the four hundred million dollar airplane, which is
by the way, as I've described, it's a white elephant airplane.
Fixing it up is going to cost a billion dollars
to make it suitable for air Force one and you

(01:18:37):
have to have two of them at all times because
if something goes wrong with one, you need the other. Well,
you only got one plane. And I don't know how
many people in the audience know this, but I think
it's very significant. Donald said, and there's a video of him, Well,
you know, they came to me and they said, we
want to give this to you because we think you're
such a great president. And in fact, Donald was out
there soliciting airplanes in the Middle East. He had his

(01:19:01):
negotiator soliciting these gifts, which are they're fundamentally their extortion.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Well, Pete, hegxitt this said David that he's okay, Pentagon's
going to take on the plane. And so we the
American taxpayer, are we're buying that plane for Donald Trump
in a sense, aren't we? We're doing those things that
you described.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
We're going to spend a billion dollars to fix it up,
and it's going to take a couple of years. But
he really wants that for after he leaves. So the game,
assuming he leaves, which is not at all certain in
twenty twenty nine, but I think the game will be
to actually go slow on that plane so that they
can turn it over to him when he leaves office
with all that luxury nonsense. And by the way, it

(01:19:41):
turns out that the Kataris have been trying to get
rid of this plane for some time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah. Yeah, So just the wrap on the on the
crypto dinner, and on crypto generally. You know, you've written
about economics, and you've written extensively on tax and economics
and the US economy, And I think of the dollar
and how it's undermined by a lot of this crypto,
and by the US government buying so much of the

(01:20:08):
crypto in a crypto reserve kind of way. I mean,
I see these things as as undermining the interests of
the US while obviously booing the interests of the president.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Oh, they absolutely undermine the interests of the US. They
diminish us on the world stage with people who are serious.
And more importantly, what you're seeing going on is a
growing movement to use real money to buy fake money
people looking back in the US dollar, yes there is,

(01:20:39):
there's the good faith and credit of the US and
the fact that dollars must be accepted by the government
in the US. But crypto it's just air. There's nothing
of any substance there. And why did we get crypto? Well,
it was a way for drug traffickers and corruptors of

(01:20:59):
foreign governments, terrorists to move money around. And what used
to be untraceable, the FBI has clearly figured out, along
with Treasury's finsand Operation, how to track this money, so
it's non anonymous anymore. And notice Donald pardoned the Silk
Road guy who was using crypto to help terrorists and

(01:21:19):
drug traffickers all over the world. He's pardoned other drug traffickers.
He's pardoned violent criminals who attacked law enforcement. And you know,
we need to recognize what we have. Donald is a
pro criminal president as long as you're his kind of criminal.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Well, that's exactly right, you know, just to segue, by
the way, many who attended the dinner were really disappointed.
As I've alluded to, they couldn't get their selfies with Trump,
that's what they wanted. The food was bad. I mean,
there was a lot of sort of a rancorous chatter
about how much money they'd spent and how little they got.
I mean, after this dinner was over, you know, they
felt really ripped off. Not if you've read any of

(01:22:01):
David k. Johnson's stuff. The first time someone who's done
business with Trump has felt ripped off. But to the point,
Donald just did I call him Donald now because you
call him Donald Donald Trump just he just issued a
pardon based on it was essentially, as you say, it
was a mother petitioning a mother had provided so much

(01:22:25):
money to Trump and also trying to expose the Biden
crime family in quotes that Trump actually issued a pardon
for the mother's son. And this is this was a complete,
as you say, paid a play kind of situation. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
Yeah, pardons are for sale into this administration as long
as you meet the right requirements. You know, don't be
a black or Muslim or an immigrant unless you're very
rich and want to do Donald's work. And we're seeing,
you know, open criminality now. Speaker Mike Johnson, who is
a lawyer, said the other day that these things Trump

(01:23:05):
is doing can't be crimes because he's talking about them openly.
That's a novel theory of criminal justice. And I tell
you that as a professor who teaches criminal justice.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Well, and he also said, look, I didn't know anything
about the dinner. I was a little busy this past week.
That's what Mike Johnson said. You know there, you know,
there's a the The irony here is so rich because
of the way in which they were on a jihad
against the Biden crime family, the Hunter Biden and the
rest of the Biden family, trading on the name uh

(01:23:39):
sort of the the uh well, trading on the power
of the presidency. And here it's right out front and
well Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
Trump is in the process of getting multi billion dollar
investments that will have the Trump name on them from
the Middle East. His sons are out making business deals
with governments who need the help and in some cases
protection of the US military, and all of this is

(01:24:08):
doing violence to our constitution. The problem is who's going
to hold him accountable? And I just got an email
minutes before the show today, you know, from someone about
why are you going on the air and lying all
the time about Donald Trump? I mean, God sent Donald
Trump to save America and how dare you align yourself
with the evil forces that are trying to There's no

(01:24:29):
rational discussion with people like this. And by the way,
this person could write the King's English, so they're not
dumb of sure, you know it wasn't full of typos
and bad grammar. Well, you know, we're we're in a
real crisis. We're seeing the US in serious fundamental decline.

(01:24:51):
Our liberties are all in danger. The the There was
a video I watched earlier today in my Facebook feed.
Woman from Australia arrives here to be with her husband,
who's Canadian on vacation, and they held her in prison
overnight in Honolulu and deported her to Australia because she

(01:25:11):
had too many clothes, they said, in her suitcase and
therefore planned to overstay her visa. That was their evidence,
she had too many clothes for the length of a trip. Well,
you may recall a couple of weeks ago, two German tourists,
young women in their twenties were arrested, held in jail,
and deported because they had too few clothes in their

(01:25:35):
suitcases and they didn't have hotel reservations for every night
they were here. Never mind that they came here to
walk the Appalachian Trail, so of course they wouldn't have
reservations for most of the nights they were going to
be here. And by the way, don't miss that Donald
claimed there were all these millions of murderers and rapists

(01:25:55):
and crazy people. That's not who they're arresting, and their
deport getting fewer people, arresting fewer people in fact then
Biden was a year ago about one a day fewer,
but it is fewer. And the reason they're not going
after all these supposed murderers and rapists and other serious

(01:26:16):
criminals is that's not who was coming into the country.
That's Donald's made up lie. The people who came here
are strivers. They came here just like your ancestors and
mine and those of people watching, unless they're Indigenous peoples.
They came here for a better life. They work hard,
and Donald wants to sell you for five million dollars.

(01:26:38):
You know, they've become an American card, the Gold Card.
Apparently very little interest in this, according to lawyers who
work in this field. It's too much money. You'd have
to be at least worth fifty million dollars to justify
five million, which may not get you anything at the
end of the day, and they're certainly not going to
give you back your five million.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
We had the story last just before you came on,
maybe fifty minutes before you came on. I did the
story about record numbers of Americans trying to get into England, Yes,
and it's they've had a remarkable rush of Americans trying
to get citizenship there. And that's of course the case
also in Portugal and Costa Rica, and and and around

(01:27:20):
the world.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
There's in Norway, in Norway, Canada, et cetera. And there
are brokers out there now who will teach you, well,
here's where you can move to and why and what
it will cost you to go do it a whole
business created. I don't find that to be a satisfactory
solution to what's going on running away, and I think

(01:27:40):
the comparison that I've few people have written to me
about saying, you know, you need to not be like
the Jews who didn't leave Europe when Hitler arose, this
is not the same as that there are parallels, but
it's not the same. What people need to do is
be citizens, stand up, push for what's right, reach out

(01:28:01):
to lawmakers, get other people to vote. You know, you
can't just passively turn your government over to other people,
or it won't won't be anything like what we've enjoyed
for the last almost two hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
I mean, it's true that this is a kind of
mafia that has taken over government. Now, yes, I mean
Trump's clearly mobs.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
Trump is the head of a is the third generation
ahead of a four generation white collar crime family. They
historically and in business, they steal from you, not by
breaking legs and burning down your building or breaking your windows.
They do it through broken promises and contracts they don't
intend to honor. Now that he's got these powers, it's

(01:28:46):
very clear that Ice has been told they can manhandle people.
They can go out in the streets in Mufty without
any identification, they can detegrate people. One of the consistent
reports that's coming out about people who've been arrested is
this humiliation of people that has been authorized. And and

(01:29:10):
now they have this bill that passed by the House
gone to the Senate that federal judges basically cannot use
contempt citations to enforce their orders.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
That this is this is very important. This last thing
that David said, David, you should have that snuck into
this big beautiful bill thing that they just passed in
the House. Yeah, and it's and.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
In the middle of all this Mark, in the middle
of all this, the Republicans keep saying, we're spending too
much money. We can't afford these things, and yet they
want to borrow trillions of dollars to help people like
Elon Musk and Larry Ellison and Michael Bloomberg, although he
doesn't support Trump pay less in taxes. This is this

(01:29:58):
is completely inco coherent. But you know, the many, many
people have been persuaded that if their boss doesn't get
a tax cut, they will lose their job, and it
doesn't matter that it's utter nonsense. And they also want
to push all of this privatization. You know, Elon Musk
has shut down all the folks who were investigating him

(01:30:18):
for flagrant violation of his many federal contracts, not fulfilling
the terms of his contracts. At the same time, they
want to do even more of this. There is a
proposal from Blackwater to build what I would call concentration camps,
but camps to hold people they want to support on
military bases. And this administration has literally told the Supreme

(01:30:42):
Court that they, yes, they have the authority to deport
American citizens. There's no way the US Supreme Court is
going to support that, but that doesn't mean they won't
do it. And then their position if they had is Well,
there's nothing we can do, you know. I mean, we
took Mark Thompson and we put him in that to
death camp in El Salvador and nothing we can do.

(01:31:04):
I mean, what do you want us to invade the
country to get him back? It's amazing how they're all
powerful and then they're all weakness.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Well, I've said it, sadly, David, I've said it repeatedly.
He's not coming back. He is a cause celeb reminds
every one of the mistake the administration made. And there's
just a sadly he's not. It's a it's an abomination,
but he's not. He's not coming back. I want to
ask you about Ukraine and Russia and the change in that.
I know, where do I go ahead, We'll do this

(01:31:33):
one real quick, if you would, just because the nature
that confrontation may have changed. And now even Trump is
saying that Putent's gone absolutely crazy, et cetera. But the
craziness and that was prompted by the fact that missiles
are landing in Ukraine in ways and in barrages that

(01:31:54):
they hadn't prior in recent months. Could you speak to
the change in this.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
Yeah, So, first of all, if you still Russian military
behavior all the way back to the Czars, They've never
paid any attention to the rules of war. Other people followed,
which change over time, followed rules of war. The Russians
don't do that. They Russians have never seen anything wrong
with bombing an obstetric's hospital or a school to kill children.
And we're seeing that right now. Donald Trump, you'll recall,

(01:32:21):
promised he would settle the war in one day. He said,
I don't even have to be sworn in. I just
have to win the election, and I can settle this
in one day. And Putin is showing you know what
a fool he is on that. So Trump, when cornered
is feral. He's like a cornered animal, and he will
reach out and strike out in whatever way is necessary.
And if that means he has to support in some

(01:32:42):
way helping Zelenski, he will do that if it's in
his interests. How far help push that, I don't know,
but he's been played brilliantly by Putin. Putin understands how
to flatter Donald. In every negotiation ever had with Donald,
I always got what I wanted because I knew how
to I would think about how to flatter him and

(01:33:03):
make him forget you know how much he was angry
at me about whatever. And then he oh, yeah, well sure, no, no, yeah,
I'll make that available, or I'll make that person available.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:14):
And so Trump is now in the problem he has
is it's been one hundred and what twenty five thirty
days he's gotten nowhere. It is showing how weak he is.
And make no mistake, Donald Trump is weak. He puffs
himself up, but he is weak, and he doesn't know

(01:33:35):
what to do because he has no understanding of the
historical geopolitical economic issues that are here. But I think
you're going to see him distance himself from Putin, and
Putin is going to step up to the extent he
can the attacks. Now his military is decimated. They're being

(01:33:55):
forced to bring food and weapons to the front with
donkey carts. The Russian one of the Russian ministers actually said, well,
armies have been using donkey cart so since Roman times.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And so he's he's Trump
has got to find some way to salvage his position

(01:34:18):
or he's exposed as the emperor has no clothes to everyone.
I don't know how he's going to do that, but
he will do whatever he needs, and if that includes
turning on Putin in a way he never has, he'll
do that. And presumably at some point Putin and his
crowd will remind Trump of what they did. In early
twenty seventeen, UH Ambassador Kissleak sent an uncoded that is unsecure,

(01:34:42):
insecure cable to Moscow that red carefully says, we've told
Trump PayPal, Uh, don't mess with us because we got
stuff on you. Wow, we know what it was or
anything else, but it was a clear shot across Trump's
bow to send a signal to him that they could
make life unhappy for him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
It's what he's been a hint to that for so long,
I mean, because otherwise it's inexplicable his allegiance to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
And we have no we have no reason, no idea
what it is the Russians. The Russians have. My guess
is it would be both financial and stupid remarks that
he's made that they've got a tape of, not the
more gritty thing some people would like to see, but
Trump Trump may find himself in serious trouble here if

(01:35:32):
he cannot bring about some resolution of this war, and
Zelensky right now is playing this perfectly. He's making all
the right statements and moves, so Donald is sort of
boxed in on both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
This is to be continued for sure, David, thanks for
staying overtime with us. We'll talk to you next week.
Dedacating everybody, Yeah problem, Yeah, how about that? Wow? I
am and I saw there is craziness in the chat
Kim that Dell would Kelp dude, I always I'll tell

(01:36:10):
you what I always liked about Dell would Kelp was
the name. I always felt like it was a fake name,
and a good fake name. Yeah, but what he writes
is pretty brutal. There's a lot of straw man stuff. Like,
first of all, he's on this thing now where we
talked about Donald Trump and him being at West Point

(01:36:35):
speaking before the graduates. This is a guy who skated
from military service, made up and concocted a completely phony
health reason, medical reason to get out of military service.
And then you've seen him smear gold Star of families.
You'll remember what he did with the con family there
they'd lost their son in battle, and there's there're myriad

(01:36:56):
examples of this. Don't put the injured guys in wheelchairs
in front. Put them in back. It's a bad look.
This is a you know, at a veteran's event. So
we know kind of how tone deaf to be polite,
and how sort of grotesque Trump has been on so
much of this stuff regarding the military. So we talked

(01:37:17):
about a little bit of that, and this guy Kelp says,
what's the military service of the host and the guest.
I won't see that discussed regarding the draft and avoidance,
instead focus on Trump's bone spurs. Well, that's a straw
man argument, right, you put something up that it's nothing
to do with it, right, you go, what about you?

(01:37:37):
You know what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Dude, I'm the president of the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Are you the commander in chief of the military.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
No, but I am the commander in chief of this show.
Thank you very much. And Dellwood, I've warned you before.
I yellow carded you before, I gave you a time
out before, and now I am giving you a red
card and you're done. Find a different show to Uh

(01:38:07):
yeah exactly, Sionara, I uh, where's my Dianaura?

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
Suck up?

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Yeah, sorry, Dell, but see you on down the road.
Come on back under another pseudonym ande I what.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
I don't like about that, And I feel that your
rule is violated when you start trash talking guests and everything.
He's a goner today. That's the way it is. But
it's a bummer because I do like a dissenting opinion.
I do like people who raise other ideas, and so
it sucks because he's not able to do that anymore.

(01:38:41):
But you start getting belligerent and nasty, and you gotta
go yeah again.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
I love the conversation if we can get a dynamic
of back and forth. In fact, i'm talking to a
guest right now, a potential guest about coming on, and
I'm just trying to figure out whether it's going to
be off the rails or if we can have a
real conversation. But when he starts with again the straw
man arguments and making fun of the guest or going

(01:39:06):
after the guest, You're done. And I've watched you for
a while and I've been resistant. But and I kind
of let the last thing on this, I kind of
let the chat take care of it. Like you know,
he's on the playground, and I thought the chatters would
take care of it, and maybe they could have, but

(01:39:27):
I think it's better for all of our sanity just
to have him hit the road. So again, look, get
another Gmail address and another fake name and come back
and you can, you know, you can find a different
way to participate. But for now, you're done. Mark Thompson
Show Tuesdays, we visit with this guy who he was

(01:39:49):
one of the guys who helped us get this entire
channel up and running. And for that reason, we always
have a warm spot in our heart for a guy
who does photo walks TV here on YouTube. He's our
tech specialist. He wrote for USA Today as their tech
journalist for a couple of decades. He's Jefferson Graham.

Speaker 7 (01:40:07):
Everybody, Hi, Jeff warm spot in my heart? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
That's it baby, that's it, kid.

Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
So, what's going to happen on this tariff that Apple
is being threatened with a twenty five tariff from Donald Trump,
the President of the United States, who says, if they
don't build the iPhones here, that's what's going to be
the tariff on all of those Apple devices.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
It's a really interesting dilemma that's going on for Apple.
You've got bit arguably the United States most profitable, biggest company,
generates the most revenue, and and you've got the President
attacking this company. He has the potential of knocking it

(01:41:01):
down several He basically halting iPhone sales. He could basically
be destroying this company that people love, these products that
people love, with his tariff. So he says, build it
in the United States or else you're going to have
to pay this twenty five percent tariff. So what does

(01:41:22):
Tim Cook do? Tim Cook is the CEO of Apple.
You know, I think it's probably hard enough to run
a business as it is, just staying on top of competitors.
But then you got the President after you for whatever reason.
That is according to The New York Times, he was
mad that Tim Cook did not accept this invitation to

(01:41:43):
join him in Saudi Arabia a few weeks ago, along
with other tech CEOs. So what, I just want to
throw it out to the audience. I wrote down a
few things here. What does Apple do? First of all,
Trump wants all iPhones to be built in the United States.
I think that's fine, that's great, Let's build them here.
Let's make it happen. But it doesn't happen overnight, the

(01:42:06):
iPhone seventeen is not going to be built in the
United States. I think we're approaching June next week. You're
not going to get this thing done in three months.
It takes years and years and years. So and if
he did, if they do build it here in the
United States, if that was actually able to happen, analysts

(01:42:26):
say that the iPhone will cost anywhere from fifteen hundred
dollars to thirty five hundred dollars. And I don't think
the Americans consumer is going to want to do that.
So what are the options? One stop selling the iPhone
in the United States. I don't know that that's reasonable,
but that think about how bold that would be. Think
about Tim Cook announcing that, because of what's going on,

(01:42:48):
we're just not going to sell the new product here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Well, that's the most absurd suggestion that I've heard.

Speaker 7 (01:42:54):
But I know I'm just throwing it out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
I'm just well, you can throw it out to the garbage.
It's a horrible suggestion. I'm surprised that you, a sophisticated
man like yourself, would even make a suggestion like that.
All right, So no, I mean I've told you before,
I'm not done. Not done.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
You let them finish, sir, the.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Market for iPhones, as you know, is not all. They're
ubiquitous here in America. But if you go to Latin America,
as I've shared with you, Jefferson Graham, I took pains
to note specifically for you, my boyfriend for so long.
I specifically noted how many as I toured Latin America

(01:43:37):
iPhones did I find? You recall what I told you.
I assume you saw zero. I saw none. Everybody is
on Android. So when you say pull iPhones from the US,
it may be their biggest market, so they can't do that, Jeff,
So hit me with a real suggestion. You're give me
a real suggestion, Jeff.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
Okay, I actually think China is the biggest market here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Uh dare you challenge me?

Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
The best? The best idea I read in the New
York Times to day. It came from Andrew Sarkin, who
suggested that Apple say, we are going to train people
in the United States at our Texas facility on making
iPhones with the goal of getting them assembled here. And
with all the money that Apple has, I think they

(01:44:28):
could do this now. Maybe it's not going to become
a reality, but they could start training people which they
say they can't. They can't even train people here, which
of course we know they can. What do you think
of that, Mark uh?

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
I like it as a distraction play, like you're not
really going to build them here. But the idea is
that you're going to throw throw this guy Trump something
just to you know, to get him off your back.
Is that kind of the idea? Is what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (01:44:56):
That's the idea because everybody says it would take five
to ten years to build these factories. And then the
other thing is I love my phone. I've loved my
phone since two thousand and seven. I plan on using
it for many, many more years. But some people think
that phones are going to eventually going to go away,
whether that be five years, whether it be ten years,

(01:45:16):
whether that be fifteen years, replaced by silly glasses. I
don't subscribe to that theory. Alexander Graham Bell had a
cool thing going and we're still using it, and I
think we'll still be using it fifteen years from now.
But what do I know? I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Well, speaking of you being wrong, and Steve agrees with you,
I thought China was Apple's biggest market. I said, America
is Apple's biggest market. You'll appreciate this. The Google that
we just checked. Where is the Google? Yes, the largest
market for iPhones is the United States. Everyone, thank you

(01:45:51):
very much. I'll take my prize off the air.

Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
Okay, Apples. Apple sells two hundred and twenty five million
if owns a year, and what's our population three point
fifty something like that. So there's a lot of international
sales going on as well.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Of course. But I mean, you don't want to lose
this market, right, I mean just.

Speaker 7 (01:46:13):
To me, well, first off, I just throw it out,
But I mean, can he come out and actually say something?
Can he say this is wrong? We disagree with what
he's doing. We're going to take a stand. Are you
allowed to actually in this world in twenty twenty five
to actually say words and use you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Speak back to the mad king? I will say this.
And it was pointed out by someone in the chat.
Apple was one of those companies Tim Cook there at
the inauguration who paid homage to the president with a
million dollar donation to his inaugural fund. A lot of
that inaugural money ended up, you know, in Trump coffers,

(01:46:56):
and so there you go. It didn't buy them any
peace in the end. It Yeah, So this is a
this is fascinating because you know they're stock prece I
think is already off twenty five percent, So this is
a this is a great concern.

Speaker 7 (01:47:11):
No, And if they do do the twenty five percent tariff,
then the new iPhones are going to be twelve hundred
and thirteen hundred dollars instead of one thousand dollars. And
what's that going to do to their sales?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Exactly? Exactly? Uh, it's a it's an interesting question because
when you look at the other products that are sold
in this country, like androids, where are they made?

Speaker 7 (01:47:37):
They're made in the same place Sinson.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
China exactly, So like why is Apple getting.

Speaker 7 (01:47:43):
You know, well, Trump said he's going to tariff Samsung
and Google as well.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Yeah he loves those tariffs. Yeah, he loves those terriffs.

Speaker 7 (01:47:53):
He loves those tariffs. You know what I would do
if I were Tim Cook, I'd retire tomorrow. You know,
I don't need this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Ooh it's a wild idea.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
But it just might work. Yeah. Yeah, gosh, it's a
pretty it's a pretty crazy time to be running any
of these tech companies. The crypto world has had new
life breathed into it because the president has been able
to self enrich in ways that he never could have

(01:48:26):
dreamt of. I mean, I think he talked about crypto
as a joke some years ago, I mean just a
few years ago, and now he's all about crypto because
it's a way to enrich himself, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
I mean, I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:38):
Yeah, when you're seventy eight years old, how much more
money do you need? What's he going to do with it?

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
I tell Trump to put federal money where his mouth is,
as Amy b to help build these factories in the US.
It's not even a question of the factories, although that's
certainly a consideration. It's a question of working at the
factories to honor the wages of factory workers in the
US are going to be, as Jeff is noted, paying

(01:49:08):
an immense amount of money for these devices, because there's
no way to you know, at fox Con they're working
for what you know.

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
Three to five dollars an hour and they live at
the factory in a dorm.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
I mean, there's no going to do America that's going
to do that, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:49:23):
Right, and they're going to I mean here, they're going
to be paid twenty to thirty dollars an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
So it's a I mean, Randy notes there's something like
four hundred and fifty thousand open manufacturing jobs in the
US already. There's a problem staffing a lot of these factories.
And you know, I put slaughter houses in the same category.
A lot of this is where you find people who

(01:49:49):
are in the country illegally, who are just trying to
feed their family. They're ready to do those jobs that
Americans just don't want to do, and building iPhones is
one of them. This is a fascinating don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:50:00):
How Amazon does with getting warehouse workers. I don't know
if it's a problem, but it's the same kind of
mind numbing, awful work that most people don't want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Right, Yeah, that's a great Also.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
The other thing about the Chinese is they have smaller
hands and they have an easier time screwing in those
little screws.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Wow, that's an odd fact, but I guess it well.
And the Maga merch is not made in the US.
That's exactly right. I mean, all of his stuff is
made in China.

Speaker 7 (01:50:34):
The Trump stuff, I think it's a lovely goal to
bring manufacturing back. I don't think it will happen, but
I think it's a great thing to watch. But they
could Apple could do something. They could do something, and
they're going to have to come up with something obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Again, telling them, you know,
we're not going to sell iPhones in the US anywhere.
I don't think it's reality, but you're right, they got
to get creative. I don't know what the answer is. Yeah.
The Amazon thing I'm holding is some thinking. You know,
you're right. There are Amazon factories and Amazon workers and
they they seem to survive. So it's a working wage, right.

Speaker 7 (01:51:16):
It's a working wage, but they don't like it. It's
very mind numbing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
Got a horrible cold. I just had a sneeze.

Speaker 7 (01:51:23):
I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Yeah, let me know about what's happening with the photo
Walks TV. You took your care.

Speaker 7 (01:51:30):
We continue on Glorious Route sixty six. We premiered the
first new episode on Sunday, doing all of Root sixty
six Illinois from Chicago to Saint Louis, and this weekend
we pick up Saint Louis to Galina, Kansas, which was
one of my favorite stops. There's thirteen point two miles

(01:51:52):
of Kansas in Rout sixty six and Galina is absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
Wow, Galina, ANSAs right there in the heart of a
mega country too. Did you see a lot of political
stuff or not so much? There?

Speaker 7 (01:52:07):
Didn't see one flag?

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Wow? Isn't that?

Speaker 7 (01:52:11):
And I didn't have the nerve to say to anybody.
So what do you think about those tariffs? I wanted to, But.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
There's Photo Walks his uh photo Walks caricature.

Speaker 7 (01:52:24):
A I made that for you, my son?

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
How about that? Has that great love? It? Would your
son be at all interested in working in an iPhone factory?
He seems to have some talent. He would not, he
would not, all right? I had to ask. Yeah, you
can find Jefferson Graham with Photo Walks TV. His terrific
YouTube series can be found there, and he is generous

(01:52:50):
enough to pop in every Tuesday with outrageous suggestions here
and tech stuff of one sort of Look at that.
That's a great Your son is a talented guy, Hi,
he is? Yeah, he should really reconsider the apple thing.
All right, let's talk again. We'll see you next week.
Javis and Graham. Everybody with Martin Thompson. Have we kicked

(01:53:13):
anybody else out of the chat, Kim? Or is everything quiet?

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
I've been thinking about it, but so far nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Good, all right? I mean, once in a while a
little incident like that is not a bad thing. Keeps
life interesting, you know. Yeah, yeah, Kim. We plan a
show with so much and we have to throw a
lot out. We can't get to everything. But there's something
I really do want to get to, and it's a

(01:53:41):
segment that we started some years ago and we keep
it going. It's law and disorder. Can we do it? Tony?

Speaker 9 (01:53:50):
In the criminal justice system, the people.

Speaker 5 (01:53:52):
Helps addicts, thieves, bums, linels, girls who can't keep on address,
and men who don't.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Care are represented by two separate and equally important. A copper,
flat foot, a bullet Dick John Law.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
You're the fuzz, the heat, You're poison, your trouble, your
bad news. These are their stories. A farmer, police chief
serving murder and the R word sentences escapes from Arkansas's
notorious prison Grant Harden escaped on Sunday. He's this former

(01:54:26):
sheriffs deputy, he's a former police chief.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
Well he ought to know how to get out then, right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Yeah, he also knew how to get in and so
you're right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
He's an expert.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
He disguised himself with a makeshift law enforcement uniform. Yeah,
I love a caper and he's he's not a good
ombre though. Man, he's a bad dude, you know. First agree, murdering,
as I say, the R word violent, you know. And
he pleaded guilty to both in twenty seventeen, and he's

(01:55:04):
still on the run. He is still on the run
in Arkansas. We checked before we came on today. Meanwhile,
a corrupt sheriff convicted of taking bribes in exchange for
deputy badges was handed a full pardon by President Donald
Trump just yesterday. Yes, he was to begin a ten

(01:55:30):
year prison sentence convicted of bribery. Again. He was selling
those deputy badges, also allowing the holders to carry firearms
without any training. A few of them even worked in
the sheriff's office. But after he was convicted, he produced

(01:55:52):
a podcast, and the podcast claimed that he was a
victim of Biden's Department of Justice because he was a
staunch supporter of gun rights. He said that Trump would
understand his plight. Yeah, it's unknown how he got President
Trump's attention, but Trump posted on his truth social platform

(01:56:18):
yesterday Sheriff Scott Jenkins, his wife Patricia, and their family
have been dragged through hell in capital letters by a
corrupt and weaponized Biden ToJ In fact, during his trial,
when Sheriff Jenkins tried to offer exculpatory evidence to support himself,
the Biden judge and he gives the judges name, refused

(01:56:39):
to allow it, shut him down, and then went on
a tirade. As we've seen Trump went on in federal,
city and state courts, radical left or liberal judges, allowing
the evidence what feels like, not what is mandated under
the Constitution and rules of evidence. The Sheriff's a victim,

(01:56:59):
he went on of an over zealous Biden Department of Justice,
and doesn't deserve to spend a single day in jail.
He's a wonderful person who was persecuted by the radical
left monsters and left for dead. This is why I,
as President of the United States, see fit to end
his unfair sentence and grant Sheriff Jenkins a full and

(01:57:19):
unconditional pardon. He will not be going to jail tomorrow,
but instead will have a wonderful and productive life again.
The police chief convicted of taking bribes in exchange for
the sheriff's badges that he was dispensing, and also firearms

(01:57:43):
permits allowing the holders to carry firearms without any training.
He will now get a full and complete pardon. Nazi
criminals allegedly paid two hundred million in bribes to the
Perone government. And I can't open this story. Oh no, yeah,
I can't get it open. Oh my god. Well we'll

(01:58:06):
put it to the side because I have other law
and disorder news, don't I Or is that it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
It is? No, it isn't they They paid two hundred
million dollars to the Peronne government. This, according to recently
declassified files the akin to the Gold the Bob of
the Gold Bars, two hundred million in gold bribes to
Argentine authorities to secure refuge in the country after World

(01:58:35):
War Two. And there's always been rumors. We always kind
of knew that people fled to this area of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
Oh yeah, there's no question about it. Argentina became a
place for a lot of Nazis, very high place Nazis went.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Well, they're hiding out right. Well, the files now indicate
German submarines transported the goal to argentina southern coast, where
it was delivered to Iva Duarte, the wife of then
President Juan do Mingue Parone. The money was reportedly later
handled by German bankers as well. The released material includes

(01:59:07):
more than eighteen hundred documents compiled into seven files between
nineteen fifty and nineteen eighty, and the records confirm Third
Reich fugitives a ride and arrived in Argentina beginning in
nineteen forty five with the protection of Parone, and that
their arrival was not isolated, but it was part of
a larger effort.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Wow. I mean the Americans also, I just mentioned this
as in passing they were. They didn't have such clean
hands either. Post World War Two. If you look up
Theirseba Parone, look up Klaus Barbie, who was the Nazi
butcher they called him. He was a torturer and a
killer of Jews and those who were enemies of the

(01:59:53):
Nazi regime. The US protected him and after World War Two,
and this is a horrible, horrible guy US protecting. I
believe he did reside in Argentina for some time. There's
Klaus Barbie and ultimately he was extradited. I think the
French were involved in that. Anyway. My point is it's

(02:00:17):
a troubled world, that world of post World War two
Nazi Germany. But that's a wild story to think that. Wow,
two hundred million dollars in gold dropped off to the
Argentinian government. And I know again, you know, you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Know who they took in. I mean the worst of
the worst. Mark, they took in Josef Mengela, they took
in Adolph Eichman.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Yeah, these are horrible.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
How much does it cost to sell your soul to
let these butchers in? Two hundred million in gold?

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Yeah, incredible. That's the Juan Peron government of course at
that time. As you're saying, so that is law and
disorder in.

Speaker 5 (02:01:00):
Again next time for more law and disorder about Mark
Thompson show. All right, that's it, let's roll, Hey, let's
we can't flo out there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
I feel very good about today. We played hurt this
nasty cold, but thank you for your tolerance. We've had
some great, great stuff. And I want to quickly recognize
the generosity of Richard Delemator. Richard, I believe is a

(02:01:34):
I want to say he's like a regular supporter of
the show in a big, big way for a long
long time. I was going to say, an og, can
I bribe you with a small contribution to bestow upon
me the rout of equity and mercy? I mean, the
lot of equity and mercy isn't typically for sale, as
you know of Kim.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
I mean if if Argentina can be bribed with.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
I mean it's five dollars. It's not exactly you know.
I mean, Tony, I'll let you decide.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
If you are going to sell the rod of equity
and mercy bestowment, how much would it cost?

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
That's a good question. I mean only in crypto. We
except Tony, We're gonna start our own memes. Because I
like Richard Delevator I just mentioned, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
You should give it to him, regardless of the five
dollars contribution.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
All right, Richard, I have to, but I have to
take on a trance like state. Hold on a second.
I think it's a little harder with my cold and everything.
But all right, Richard, you have to just receive, if
you would receive.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
The road of equity and.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Mercy again again, it is a I don't think you're
receiving I can, I'm not kidding, receive the road of
equity and mercy one more time.

Speaker 6 (02:02:56):
Please receive the road of equity.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
All right, very good, Richard, thank you, thank you, Yes
with a supersticker for five bucks. Thank you, big shout
out to you. Is an og of the show Tony
LADOUDI can Trump be ordered to testify before Congress? I
would love to see him grilled. Well, he can be ordered,
but he doesn't have to go. And as you know,
he has a diplomatic not diplomatic, he has presidential immunity,

(02:03:22):
and so he can't be held in contempt of Congress.
So no, he you know, just to bottom line, it
cannot be ordered to testify before Congress.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
Congress is on his side right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
So yeah, right, exactly who's going to order him? Cousin
Eerie says, if a group of major Republicans spoke out
about what is really happening, the party would implode. It
can't happen. Yeah, it's just not going to happen right now.
They are. I think they're a bit too cowed at
the moment, too fearful, too afraid, that would be my

(02:03:54):
sense of it at the moment. So yeah, gosh, this
thumbnail gives me the HEBG. I don't know. Well, I'm uh,
you know, I it's a post with laserries or a
go to for YouTube, I don't know. One commented that
I saw the fact that Tony's background in his room

(02:04:18):
has been completely cleaned up and he's no longer surrounded
like by what looks like a Dave and Busters. What
did you do, Tony? You cleaned it all. I've just
been moving some stuff around and trying to fix some
stuff around here.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
Yeah, probably all the gym equipment is going to go
in here out so oh.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
It's gonna be It's gonna look like a twenty four
hour fitness in there. It's like you're telling me, all right.
People don't realize this, but Tony is jacked and he
is like I used to be. I'm small now compared
to what he used to be. I I know, I
feel I feel your brother I used to be here.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
You have an eight pack.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
No, it's the you know, I just yeah know you
never never I was never cut. Never know.

Speaker 4 (02:04:58):
If you would please, I'm shelf of Stevens for the
Mark Johnson Show.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
Bye bye, thank you everybody. Tomorrow at a time, Bye
bye Rothman and Mar until then, and bye bye
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