Kimmel Shines as Trump Goes Ballistic With Threats Against ABC 9/24/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you everyone, Please, thank you. It's overwhelming. It's as
though I have a button and if I just keep
impressing it, I can hear more applause. That's what it
feels like. Tom, It's unbelievable. I'm overwhelmed. Albert is here today, everybody,
and Kim is Albert. Yes, we're all excited that the

(00:23):
room is filled with life, brilliance and potential. And John
Rothman joins us today in the first hour, and then
Tom Hartman joins us in the second hour. Yeah, pretty
pack show. Belinda has left us a beautiful video package
that we'll run in the second hour as well. There's

(00:44):
an awful lot going on. Jimmy Kimmel came back on
last night, and I got a serious threat on Instagram.
We're saying that I love Jimmy Kimmel, that he's my favorite,
and I didn't even bring it up. Tim Conway Junior
asked me on the air, you know who's your favorite?

(01:04):
If you like kim I said, oh, yeah, I love Jimmy.
I said, I just think that's the best show. I think,
but it's by far the funniest, and it's by far
the most inventive. And I've always liked Jimmy Kimmel. So
I say that, and I get an Instagram post about
how can you like? I should read it to you.
It's like crazy, you realize how America is so divided.

(01:28):
And I didn't say anything about you know you just
but now, like what saying that I like Jimmy Kimmel
is a some kind of statement that deserves a clapback.
It was just, you know, it's a crazy but the
world is full of crazies. I mean, this current world.
I can't find it right this instant. But bottom line
is I thought, wow. I mean, it was so innocuous

(01:54):
so as to be forgettable, and yet it was, you know,
the kind of thing that somebody took offense innocuous as
a ding word, what kind.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Of threat like we're coming after you kind of threat.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
No, it wasn't quite that bad. It was just I
don't want to get into basically what he said was,
you know, how can you somebody who said so many
awful things about Charlie Kirk or something. And I said,
I said, I said, please quote me one thing he
said that was, I said, please send me back a
quote of one thing that Jimmy Kimmel said about Charlie

(02:30):
Kirk that you disagreed with or that you had an
issue with, and I said, I know you won't because
he didn't. And of course I never heard from the
guy again. But anyway, it was just one of those things.
It's great to have Jimmy Kimmel back on, and it
was quite the perfect monologue that he did. It addressed
the issues at hand, It addressed the freedom of speech issues,

(02:51):
it addressed the Kirk issues, It addressed the nation's dividedness,
I thought. And also it was and this is what
I think is the genius of Jimmy Gimmel. It was funny.
It would be one thing for him just to go
on and address all those issues that I described, but
it was funny and it was emotional, I mean, really something.

(03:13):
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Speaker 2 (04:49):
So we had a suggestion actually that came in a
after hours trading of the comments last night from Immortal Tiger.
He wants you to do a cup that says a
tail and a day keeps our FK Junior away.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, that's a very strong I said, known as Thailand
all we ought to do an ass said, as said,
as said, A.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Minifie said, yeah, menifin commonly known as Thailand.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
All I love though we're talking about the uh, the
tailand All thing is wild and as we said yesterday
and were predicted the makers of tailand All in a
very tough spot. By the way, one of the funniest
lines from Jimmy Kimmel was I don't know who's had
a weirder forty eight hours, me or the CEO of Thailand.

(05:41):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So they're trying to push back on that, which the
president in RFK Junior and doctor Oz you know, are
we're forwarding. And of course all the madness that Trump
was just coming off on in addition to the core
madness around Thailand, all the Cuba thing, the Amish thing,
it just totally made up, you know stuff. But we

(06:10):
kind of did a pretty good breakdown on it yesterday.
I thought, so if you want to see it, it's
but it's everywhere. They're all sorts of breakdowns. Everybody has
pretty well, I think broken that down for us. And
we ran doctor Daniel, who's kind of the friend of
the show, our doctor. His short on Instagram is pretty
you know, complete in its takedown in just one minute's time.

(06:33):
On the ridiculousness of what was said yesterday about the
tie to autism, Trevor Starr in Hollywood First In with
a super Chat says, some guy threatened to punch me
in the face the other day because I told him
I like them Mark Thompson's show, Oh my god, Well,
geez usually got a high five. That's kind of scary

(06:53):
to get the punch in the Yeah, And Richard Delamator
before we get started, asks commission, how about niners. Yeah,
niners just getting it done. Huh hum.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Commission's uh yeah, with the scrap parts and loose ends.
So it's good for now, but three and zero historically
high chances of making the playoffs, so it's looking good.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
All right. That's the word from the Commissioner's office. So on,
honorly go mar Thomson. Uh, Trump is losing it. Donald Trump,
my Lord and savior. You guys have yet to find God,
but he is mine. He is angry. He's an angry God,

(07:38):
and he's angry over Jimmy Kimmel's return. Jimmy returned, and
we'll run a little bit of Jimmy's return. Albert, after
I read a bit of this screed from the President
of the United States, I can't believe ABC, fake news
gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back, he said on his

(07:59):
social media from the White House. Was told by ABC
that his show was canceled. Something happened between then and
now because his audience is gone in capital letters and
he is quote talent was never there. Why would they
want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny,
and who puts the network in jeopardy by playing ninety
nine percent positive Democrat garbage. Garbage is capitalized. He has

(08:24):
yet another arm of the DNC, and to the best
of my knowledge, that would be a major illegal campaign contribution.
I think we're going to test ABC out on this.
Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them.
They gave me sixteen million dollars. This one sounds even
more lucrative. A true bunch of losers. Exclamation point. Let
Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings. Well, why don't

(08:48):
you let him rot in his bad ratings instead of
going after him, mister president. And Kimmel had a line
about that he ran the state from Trump on Air
Force One, during which Donald Trump said he has no talent,
he has bad ratings. And they came back to Kimmel,

(09:11):
who said, well, not such bad ratings tonight, though, huh
it was. It was perfect. But Kimmel has twenty million
subscribers on YouTube, says Jeanette. Last night he had twenty
one point one million. Oh so he picked up a
million point one in just one day. Go figure, ha

(09:35):
ha ha, she says. So, I see went in before
this whole thing happened with twenty million. Now he's got
twenty one one. This is the reality. I mean, just
to step back for a moment, then I'll run some
of the Kimmel's stuff. The reality is that Donald Trump's
not a very popular president. He has a core of support,

(09:56):
of course, but now there's a lot of buyer's remorse,
even from those who were sort of on the front,
you know, who kind of bought the bs about helping
the economy and all that sort of thing. And now
the realities are beginning to encroach upon whatever promise there was,
and I'd say in another six to eight months there'll
be an even greater encroachment. You'll really begin to see

(10:19):
the darkness of the economic future. Unemployment's going to rise.
The dollar has already been devalued, it's down about ten percent.
It'll be down even more. So everything's going to become
more expensive, and inflation and rising unemployment. You'll have a
stagflation situation developing the next year. And then you know,
sadly that'll just be the state of the state, because

(10:41):
we're only being at that point, maybe a year and
a half into his administration. So but the back and
forth continues, and I think there's some serious issues involved,
of course, and we'll mention them with John Rothman associated
with the FCC strong arming ABC and strong arming ABC

(11:04):
buy strong arming their stations. Remember the station licenses that
are associated with all those Sinclair stations and Next Star stations.
Those are things that they very much require. FCC approval
to maintain and even more, as we've mentioned before, Nexttar
wanted to increase its footprint, its media footprint by acquiring
more stations. It needs SEC approval for that. So when

(11:27):
you have the FCC commissioner coming on going, you know,
we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
And basically this kind of mobster talk and leaning on
the next star in Sinclair stations, you see that there
is a real a real sense that government is flexing

(11:48):
a muscle to get rid of speech they're not happy with.
I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is going after
Jimmy Kimmel went after Colbert and going after these media
companies because he's not happy with the coverage that he's
getting from them is in itself not a new concept

(12:12):
to the presidency. Obama wasn't happy with the coverage he
was getting. Bush wasn't happy with the coverage he was getting.
Clinton wasn't happy. The idea that the president pushes back
on media and complains about media coverage is not a
new one. But the FCC and the President of the

(12:33):
United States openly leaning on media companies and threatening to
essentially sideline them by pulling their licenses that's a new one.
Here's a little bit of Jimmy last night. I don't
know what to clip. Albert has up first, but just
a couple of quick moments from Kimmel.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Conditions for my return to the air, and there is one.
Disney has asked me to read the following statement.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
And I agreed to do it.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
To reactivate your Disney Plus and who you are.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Catay.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Open the Disney Plus app, are your smart TV or
TV connected device.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I've been That's good stuff. That's good stuff. I mean,
you know, again, some money didn't want to see him
kow taw and bend the knee, and he didn't. And
there were poignant moments. I mean, he choked up as
he talked about Charlie Kirk. They talked about Charlie Kirk's family,
and you know, Kimmel was the real thing. He, as

(13:49):
I mentioned you before, has become emotional on a number
of issues associated with healthcare and America's healthcare issues. I
talked about the fact that his son needed a heart operation.
He went on the air after the successful heart operations
is for a newborn or a young, very very young

(14:10):
a child, and Jimmy said, thank you all. Essentially, he said,
for all the support, he said, it just is worth
noting that we had the means to save our son,
but there are many families in America that did not
and do not, and that is something that is wrong
and we have to fix that in this country. And

(14:31):
he choked up as he said it. I mean, Jimmy
is in my judgment, he's the real thing all the way.
And so I think you see in him when he
displays emotion, real sincere emotion.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
So it makes them so what makes them so likable
I think, and so can so able to connect with
people because he just comes off as so genuine.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
It comes off also, i'd say, is kind of like
a very approachable everyman thing that he has going, which
is real. I think he is really that guy. And
I also think, yeah, de Niro was great in this
sketch that followed, But I also think that lastly, when
he makes these statements, he's not he's not on the

(15:17):
bully pulpit, you know, he's not in your face.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
He just is.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
There's an ease about his manner, you know, but he's
just more than anything. So so very funny. We have
one other clip, and this is I think pure funny,
so go ahead over.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
The FCC has a tradition of meddling where they shouldn't
under many administrations. But it wasn't always like this. There
was an FCC commissioner back in twenty twenty two who
worked under Joe Biden who was spot on. He wrote,
President Biden is right. Political satire is one of the
oldest and most important forms of free speech. It challenges
those in power while using humor to draw more people

(15:53):
into the discussion. That's why people in influential positions have
always targeted it for censorship.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You know who wrote that.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
FCC Commissioner, Brendan Carr later was appointed Chairman of the
FCC by this former crusader for free speech.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
If we don't have free speech, then we just don't
have a free country.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
If this most fundamental right is allowed to perish, then
the rest of our rights and liberties will topple, just
like dominoes.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
One by one, they'll go down.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
That was also at twenty twenty two, and I wonder,
how did that guy turn into this guy.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Who would you like to see replace Kimmel on Late Night?

Speaker 7 (16:37):
A lot of people if anybody could replace a guy
had no talent. Jim Ahead, Look, he aspired, he had
no talent. He's a wet job, but he had no talented.
More importantly than talent, he had do because a lot
of people have no talenty het ratings, but he had
no ragings.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well I do.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Tonight, the presidents of the United States made it very
clear he wants to see me and the hundreds of
people who work here fired from our jobs. Our leader
celebrates Americans losing their livelihoods because he can't take a joke.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
See, there is a weird thing that is happening in
Maga country. It's just odd to me. I mean, they
always talk about the snowflakes, but man, they just can't
take anything. It's an extraordinary fact. Even happened at the
UN yesterday. My god, I don't know what I guess
the reality on the UN stuff is. You know, they're

(17:40):
talking about the escalator that didn't work. We showed you
the video of that yesterday, and then the prompter didn't work. Well.
It turns out the escalator situation was the result of
one of his advanced people hitting the button. Kim shared
that with us yesterday and then the prompter was also
being run by one of his people. Again, you know,

(18:02):
the trail of breadcrumbs, it seems leads back to them,
and it's as though they they break something and then
they complain that it's broken. The same thing is happening,
of course, at the governmental level, right they are dismantling
government and then complaining that the checks aren't on time.
You know, it's quite consistent.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
So can we just go back to that escalator thing
for a minute, because there's a story about this that
the UN is blaming Trump's videographer, as you mentioned, but
the White House is now suggesting that the escalator mishap
doesn't look like a coincidence. They did he the Trump
and company says the UN did it on purpose somehow,

(18:46):
that you know that this is the They did it
to spoil their Christmas or something.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, it's not fake, that's real.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Someone did this to spoil our Christmas?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Caroline Levitt floating a different explanation, writing in a post
on x if she just what she wrote, If someone
at the UN intentionally stopped the escalator as the President
and First Lady were stepping on, they need to be fired.
And investigated immediately.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean, this is what I'm talking about, though
it sounds slow. They are the reason this whole thing happened.
They're the reason for the escalator, the escalator not working,
They're the reason for the prompt or not reason working.
And now they're going to build a conspiracy that has
nothing to do with them. It's just it's insane. Blame
Blame the lefties, she.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Put She shared a screenshot from a Times of London
article that said UN workers had been overheard joking that
they might intentionally shut off escalators during Trump's visit, and
they and then blame funding shortfalls for it. And there's
no evidence apparently that UN staff followed through on those jokes.
But now it's become somewhat of a conspiracy in the

(19:53):
White House.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, here's the serious part of this. The US under
Donald Trump has pulled way back from the UN. And
it is true that the funds associated with the UN.
I talked a little bit about this yesterday are really
one of the big things supporting the UN. So they're
on their eightieth anniversary that they're celebrating, if you will,
that bring all of these different nations together regularly, the

(20:15):
UN very flawed institution. We can talk more about it
with John Rothman. They depend so much on support, economic
support from the Americans, and the Americans aren't there with
that support anymore. So as things fall apart from an
infrastructure standpoint escalator, you know, prompt or not working whatever.
As I say, in this case, I think these explanations
are really quite simple. But Trump was sort of in

(20:36):
his remarks to the General Assembly suggesting that it was
the fact that the place has fallen apart, you know,
and I could have made this place better if you'd
given me the contract when I had been on this
long ago. Well, the reality is that America has pulled
a lot of the money that's associated with the UN,
and maybe some of that, you know, could trickle down

(20:58):
to the infrastructure. I don't know. Again, this seems like
it's one of these simple explanations that's now being turned
into a big thing. But Trump did make a big
deal out of it yesterday in his remarks. So I
watched some of Fox News Channel and their coverage of
the UN, and they were all suggesting that there was
something nefarious going on. They were also suggesting that there

(21:23):
couldn't possibly be the three things that happened. There was
a third thing that happened. The chances of these three
things happening is this constellation of events happening is like,
you know, winning the lottery and getting bitten by a
shark at the same time. It was that kind of thing.
They had a guest on who actually said that, and
so it's been concocted. I think as something that it

(21:45):
just doesn't I mean, it sounds to me like the
explanation is pretty, you know, pretty benign, pretty straightforward. So
I Mark and kim did you see Malania's face at
the escalator? Priceless? Yeah, she shouldn't have to walk if
she doesn't have to, you know, Yeah, thank you for
the five dollars super chap Mark Thompson show, I did it.

(22:06):
I hit the stop button, says Steven. Oh, well, it's good.
It's nice that one of our people.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
I'm mad.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I'm sorry. It takes responsibility. How dare you all right?
I wanted to quickly cover a couple of other things
before I get to John Rothman, but we did want
to give Jimmy Kimmel's return plenty of airplay. And by
the way, in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk murder.

(22:36):
Officials in Oklahoma apparently are going to have a Turning
Point chapters at all their high schools. Wow, it's pretty wild.
The state super intention attended in Oklahoma announcing plans to
put Turning Point USA chapters in every high school.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know, in case you don't get enough MAGA at home,
they want to make sure you get MAGA in school.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
If you're so worried about indoctrination. I don't understand why
this kind of blatant indoctrination is not going to become
a part of public policy. But they say this indoctrination
is going to counter the radical leftist teachers Union woke indoctrination.
That's a quote, radical leftist Teachers' Union woke indoctrination.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Is there is there a counter group, like a lefty
group that could be at every high school too.

Speaker 9 (23:33):
What do you call them?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
This is really an interesting thing that you've pointed to
or asked or implied in that question. Just after the
first hour is done, we'll get into the second hour
with Tom Hartman, and it's one of the things we
talk about. Tom Hartman and I are on at rough
at the same time, so we had to tape it yesterday,
and we talk about the fact that the left doesn't

(23:56):
have an organization like Turning Point USA, like so many
of the organizations that are on the right, there just
isn't the organizational silo that you will find on the
right on the left, and so you also don't have
that instinct. Now you have, again, just two very different

(24:22):
visions of America and of a freedom of speech and
of history, you know, and so those are played out
I think in many different ways in the world of academics.
But in this case, to your question, there just isn't
There just isn't something there that is the equivalent of
Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It feels like when you have a Turning Point USA
that you need to gather to I don't know, kind
of assemble a group where you can share your views
and I'll say it lies. You know, you need to
you need to tell people something specific, whereas the left's

(25:06):
and perhaps I'm coming at this based on my own idea.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You're definitely coming at it from a body. Yeah, I'd
say it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's based on truth. So why would you need a
special group to push the truth when the truth is
already everywhere hopefully true things are being taught about history,
about everything else in high school, So why would you
need a special group to push what's already known.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Well, let me just represent for the sake of argument.
You have that position because you're saying it's truth, but
it's your truth, okay, And you can say, what are
you talking about? It is the truth. It is the
truth that there were slaves. It is the truth that
you know, America's history is punctuated by all of these
very troubling events. They have to be included. Of course,
I agree with you, but they would say no, but

(25:54):
the way you've cast America as this sort of evil
force has really played down the best of America. I
don't know exactly what they'd say, but it might be
something in that neighborhood, so they what I agree with you,
of course, But what I would say is that typically Democrats,
they would get voter registration going in areas in place

(26:16):
of like Turning Point USA, they would get voter r
registration going. Now, by the way, their Turning Point USA
wouldet voter registration going too. So I don't want to
disparage them in that way, but at a high school level,
you can't get voter registration because typically high schoolers are
a little too young yet to vote, so maybe seniors
here here's where you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
When you're sixteen, you go to the DMV and get
your driver's license and that's when you pre register to vote.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh that's interesting, Okay, so I know that that's done
at the DMV, then yeah, then there's no need to
do it on a high school acounty.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
But they want all the high schoolers to know it,
so they're signs everywhere saying pre registered to vote at
the DMV. Yeah, and seniors often will are just ready
to turn eighteen, so then there's another push for seniors
to register to vote as well.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
The Turning Point USA chapters though, that's a real effort
to get information of a certain kind, and so you'd
have to have a corresponding presence on the part of
the left, and they there are organizations. I don't want
to suggest that they're not there, but I don't think
they have quite the muscle that Turning Point USA. That's

(27:24):
one of the things abou Charlie Gurdthery was so amazing
that he was able to create this organization that became
so robust. I don't think there's anything quite like that
on the left in terms of turning out young people
who've typically gone toward the Democratic Party, but that is changing,
as we have seen in poll after poll. I want

(27:46):
to get to John Rothlan before I do I Mark
Thompson Show. We like to keep track of stuff that's
going on in the courts and out. This is law
and disorder in the criminal justice system.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
The people himps, addicts, thieves, bums, nyls, girls who can't
keep on address, and men who don't care.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Are represented by two separate and equally important groups.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Copper flat Foot, a bullet Dick, John Law, You're the buzz,
the heat, You're poison, your trouble, your bad news.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
These are their stories. Fifty world leaders prepared to descend
on Manhattan for the UN General Assembly, the US Secret
Service was quietly dismantling a massive, hidden telecom network across
the New York area. It was a system that investigators
say could have crippled cell towers, jam nine to one

(28:36):
one calls, and flooded networks with chaos at the very
moment the city was most vulnerable. The cash made up
of more than three hundred SIM servers packed with over
one hundred thousand SIM cards and clustered within thirty five
miles of the United Nations, represents one of the most
sweeping communications threats uncovered on US soil. Investigators warn the

(29:00):
system could have blacked out cellular service in New York.
This is a city that relies on that cellular service
not only for daily life, but of course for emergency
response and for counter terrorism. This all coming as foreign
leaders filled midtown hotels, motorcades clogging Manhattan. Officials say that
that takedown highlights a new frontier of risk plots aimed

(29:25):
at invisible infrastructure that keeps a modern city connected. Pretty
big work done by the Secret Service. A man is
freed after thirty eight years. That's right. It happened in Inglewood, Inglewood, California,

(29:46):
wrongful conviction. He was freed after thirty eight years. That happened.
But the other thing that happened is that finally he
received something for having essentially had his life taken from him.
Twenty five million dollars is what he will receive, and
he says, while this doesn't fill the gap and make

(30:11):
up for the fact that much of my life was
taken for no reason, it does do something and produce
some closure. Apparently he's spending more time with his church
in his remaining years. Sean Diddy Colmbs is now sued
sued for assault and battery by his ex stylist. This

(30:36):
X style is testified during the trial. This whole thing
is happening a week before the hip hop mogul is
scheduled to be sentenced on prostitution related charges. And you
know this is a critical period because Sean Colms, through lawyers,
is representing this isn't as bad as was being made out.

(30:58):
He's not a threat to society anymore. Go easy on him,
in other words, in terms of the sentencing. But now
he's facing a new lawsuit from this former personal stylust.
The stylist alleges that the rapper and music mogul subjected
him to a nightmare of sexual, physical, and psychological abuse.
It lasted a decade. Deontae Nash quote, endured constant unreasonable

(31:22):
demands and expectations, forced tests of loyalty and manipulation, sexual
harassment and sexual assaults, physical violence and man handling, labor trafficking,
threats of harm, and threats of death. That sounds like
a fun job, Nash testified against Combs during that eight

(31:43):
week federal racketeering and sex trafficking trial this summer, and
he was acquitted of those charges. Combs was though he
was convicted on those two counts of interstate prostitution. That's
why I'm saying the timing of this is not optimal
for Combs. He's scheduled to be sentenced October third. Pleaded
not guilty to all charges during the trial, and uh,

(32:06):
we'll know more when that other trial begins. But again,
Sean Diddy. Comb's now being sued for assault and battery
by his ex Style, a stylist who testified during the
original trial. And finally, Ryan Root is found guilty of
trying to assassinate Donald Trump at his Florida golf course.

(32:28):
If you missed it, I believe Kim mentioned this story yesterday.
After a two week trial, a jury took just two
hours to convict Ryan wrote, Routh, how did you say it,
Kim rot I.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Said, but you know he represented himself at trial.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's never a good idea.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You never you always want a professional to sit next
to you. You never want to try to take the
song on your own recess.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, that was the first thing you going to ask
for a recess? What do they what's the adage about
that anyone who decides to represent themselves in a court
of law has a fool for a client. Oh, that's
what's said to kind of underscore the fact that you
shouldn't represent yourself anyway.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
The plot because of your dad, you have all the
good the lawyerisms.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's yeah. Maybe I don't know, maybe he gave me
that or not. I don't remember, but apparently he tried to.
You know, he's now convicted, so we don't have to say.
Apparently he tried to assassinate Donald Trump on a Florida
golf course last year. It was a plot undone by
the Secret Service. A Secret Service agent spotted him, fired
a shot that sent him running. Chaos ensued in the

(33:40):
courtroom shortly after he was found guilty. Kim seven women,
five men found him guilty, but Ralph tried to stab
himself in the neck with a pen.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Problem is it was one of those those jail pens
that are flexible. No, they give him to the prisoners
on purpose, so they can't hurt themselves or anyone else
with them.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh, man, stabbing yourself as you get the guilty plea.
It's it's a wild idea. But yeah, after it was
chaos in the court room, as you can imagine. After
order was restored, Rouths was brought before US District Judge
Eileen Cannon, remember her. Yeah, he was shackled no longer
in the jacket and tie that he wore while representing

(34:23):
himself with the trial, and the fifty nine year old
apparently spent weeks plotting to kill Trump before aiming a
rifle through shrubbery and then the the Trump force him
played golf while this guy was training his rifle on them.

(34:44):
But just in the nicke of time, the I believe
it was just literally in the nicer time, the Secret
Service agent spotted him and fired that shot that sent
him running.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
They saw that the long gun sticking through the hole
in the remember that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
You know when you bring the long gun. It's I'm
glad that they got him, and glad that you know,
I'm glad that nothing happened. But he does sound like again,
I put everybody who tries to commit political violence like
this in the wacko category. He's an extreme wacko. And
the guy who killed Charlie Kirk's an extreme wacko. They're

(35:24):
all extreme wackos. They represent nothing but but I'm I'm
sure radicalized in some way, but but wacko. Nonetheless, with
the all too much access to weapons, that is law
and disorder.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Tune in again next time for more law and disorder.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm a Mark Thompson show.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
All right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Let's roll. Hey, we can't flout there. Mm hmm mar
Becky E fifty five dollars? Are you kidding? She sends
a fifty five dollars super chat, and she says, more importantly,
celebrating my birthday today. Thanks for making all my days remarkable.

(36:08):
I got it, Yes, and shout out to you, Becky birthday,
shout out my dear Yeah, really really cool, so much,
he says, so much for your generous offering. Fifty five baby, Yeah,
the best little wisdom, and you still got a whole
lot ahead. All right, without any further delay, Let me

(36:30):
do it. Do I have any other Uh? Oh no,
I'm way late. Let me get Let me get to
Rothmand right away, because what he's got going here got
a situation. I've got a situation going. So let me
get to Rothman and we will will handle uh I'll
handle all the comments at the top of the hours
Mark Thompson Show. This man is a lecturer and author,

(36:51):
our former colleague from k j O Radio at Presidential Historian.
He is the wonderful John Rothman. John, did you see
the president's remarks at the UN yesterday? I did.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Thoughts appalled, appalled on every level. If you go back
and you take a look at what presidents traditionally say
when they speak to the United Nations, and you can
go back to Dwight Eisenhower for the exemple or really
the best comments. Donald Trump is the antipithus of all
the things that are proper, and you could see it
in the response of the people in the audience at

(37:27):
the UN. You know, I have a very close relationship
with the United Nations. I am the biographer of Harold Stassen,
who really was the author of the UN Charter and
was one of the He was the last living signer
of the UN Charter. And it's not that the criticism
that Donald Trump leveled about its certain failings in international

(37:49):
relations aren't true. It is that Donald Trump has, in fact,
as you pointed out on your program, cut more money
from the United Nations and it will make it very
hard for the UN to function. And there are revisions
that are needed. Governor stats and wrote a book recommending
revisions in the Charter, including the veto power of the

(38:09):
Security Council. But all I can tell you is I
was embarrassed to have Donald Trump stand before the world
and represent our country.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
The way he did. There was a quality I thought
that was quite extraordinary associated with the you all don't
know what you're doing. Look at what I'm doing in
America in just eight months. Don't forget all the.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
Peace treaties, don't forget seven treaties, which of course is
pure rubbish, right.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And there in that as well was the notion that
you all need to abandon sustainable energy, you need to
abandon alternative energy. There was a real broadside to alternative
energy and suggest.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Understand there's no such thing as global warming, there never
has been, and climate change, you know, this doesn't exist.
And when you consider he said that the scientific bona
fhydes are so incredibly deep and wide coming from him,
it really means something or nothing.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I see Trump, and I'm wondering about you as someone
who clearly is looking at every situation as how can
this be good for me? Or how can this be
bad for me? Who in this room can help me?
And who in this room is not important to me?
And as I listened to his speech at the UN,
I saw the transactional side of Donald Trump. You know,

(39:37):
the idea somehow that some of you in this room
we can do business with the others we can't. And
I'm telling you that right up front. He basically said,
you know, if you want to do business with us,
you can, and if you don't, you know, then you've
got bad futures ahead. And you have so many of
these smaller countries John who likely will come and a

(40:00):
and whatever value strategies for the future associated with sustainable energy, etc.
They might have had just so they can get help
from the United States.

Speaker 9 (40:10):
They really have no alternative. The United States plays a
central role. If you've been following the story on the
elimination of AID, you know that the human tragedy being
accumulated around the world because of the actions of Donald
Trump are real and genuine. I was embarrassed by his presentation,
but I did flip on to listen to Sean Hannity yesterday,

(40:33):
literally word for word defending the President on everything he said,
and I regret that we were not on the air
to do the appropriate critique that most assuredly we would
have provided on KGO.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Well, what I would say is that they claim I
watched a bit of Fox News as well, just curious
how they were handling it. They claim that, you know,
finally you have an American president who is speaking the
truth at the UN and you don't want to hear it,
all you UN members.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
But what Donald Trump is saying is the truth. Yeah,
I'm not surprised at all. I'm sure he also told
the truth about Tilan and all. I mean, you know,
this is a man with a vast experience in medical science,
and if he makes a statement about tail and all
and autism, it must be true. Can I grip my

(41:26):
remarks with greater sarcasm than I already have? I mean,
it's humiliating, it's sad, it's disgusting, and it doesn't matter
that the whole scientific community, indeed the whole world community
objects the things Donald Trump says, because Mark, remember this,
he's always right.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Well, that is exactly what he said at the UN.
He said he was always right, and he said there
was a hat that Trump was right about everything. Hat
that was part of his campaign and now is a
part of hisministration and you know, is handed out at
various events. And it was interesting that Joel Ruben, who's
a former State Department official under Obamas, you can imagine

(42:08):
he was not happy, but he, you know, has done
a lot with the UN and been in and around
the UN a lot, and he really, uh, he said
it was bonkers, out of control. I mean again, you know,
mocking the UN to its face.

Speaker 9 (42:24):
I agree, it is bonkers. It is out of control,
and it was a destructive speech and we will reap
the whirlwind.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Well, that's really what I wanted that, That's really what
I wanted to get to because he was saying I
found it incredibly damaging to America's standing in the world,
damaging to our national security strategy, and damaging to how
other countries are now going to deal with us, which
means they're just going to move further and further away
as this kind of communication and leadership continues. This is
what I wanted to get to, John, because it's not

(42:56):
just shock, and it's not just disappointment meant and it's
not just discussed with what was said but there is
a ripple effect. I mean, the statement made by a
guy who is heading the most powerful nation on Earth
has a true effect on the future. And I wonder
if you could speak to that.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Well.

Speaker 9 (43:16):
It goes to the point I've made repeatedly for years.
Who is president of the United States matters? And Donald Trump, frankly,
is a disgrace. And I know that there are Trump
supporters out there who will be very upset with me
for saying it. But can you imagine it's not just
the un it's not just Thailand all. It's just it's
a accumulation of things that come out every single day.

(43:39):
By the way, he doesn't make any any secret of
the fact that he wants the Justice Department, his Attorney
General to begin persecuting and prosecuting his enemies. Mark, have
we gotten to the point where a president can have
an enemy's list, implement what he he says he wants

(44:01):
to do and there's no outcry. I listened to John Toon,
who is the Republican leader in the Senate today on television,
and he was trying in a way to defend what
Donald Trump was doing. And I thought to myself, if
Bob Taft Ev Dirkson or Howard Baker, previous Republican leaders
in the Senate, Bob Dole, if they were alive, they'd

(44:21):
be rolling over in their graves. They wouldn't grasp for
a moment. We have coming up a potential government shutdown,
and of course that also has to do but the
fact that Trump says he won't talk to the Democratic
leadership in the House of Senate, it's shortsighted. He deserves
the blame. And as you reported in our previous conversation

(44:44):
before when on the air, there is a congressional race
which was just run, and not only did the Democrats win,
but they went by twenty points over what had happened
in that district previously. I think, and I know a
lot of people people dismiss what I'm saying, but I
believe I'm right. There is a reaction building among the

(45:06):
American people, and rightly.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
So, oh, I think most certainly there's a there's a
reaction building. The question is how that reaction manifests and
will it make a difference in a system that has
been so dismantled and likely will continue to be dismantled.
The point that you may not have a legitimate vote
in the future.

Speaker 9 (45:28):
But if we don't have a legitimate midterm election in November,
we're in big trouble. I like to remind people. In
nineteen forty two, there was a suggestion made that we
postpone the midterm elections because of World War Two having
broken out, and the reaction of Democrats and Republicans alike
was we don't fiddle with our election system in this country,

(45:50):
and I hope that remains the case now.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
The reaction would not be, I think typified by that
kind of unified response Democrats and Republicans. It would be,
you know, it's like, let's stop the music if we're
ahead type right. That's really where the same thing that
Trump said when he said stop the vote, stop the counting,
stop the counting, When when he was ahead, they still
had a bunch of counting to do, he said, ye know,

(46:15):
that's it. Let's call it right now. I mean, it
is laughable were it not so serious. Last thing I
would just say, because this is a repetitive theme with
Donald Trump, is he talked about seventeen trillion dollars worth
of investment in America. That was what he mentioned at
the UN He's mentioned in a lot of other places.
That's total fiction. Okay, just let's just get down on
the table. That is a ridiculous figure pulled right out

(46:36):
of the ether, just like all the other figures. The
two trillion that has already come into America based on
the tariffs, that is also total fiction. I want everybody
to understand that the figure that is associated with tariff
revenue is one hundred and fifty billion, okay, and I'm
being generous with that, but that's the number. It's not

(46:57):
two trillion. So these trillion numbers that he's throwing around,
they you know, and he always makes a point and
it's trillion with a T it again. It throws you
off the scent of what is the real information, which
I think is significant. You know, I agree with you
one hundred percent. All right now, I want to get
to the FCC and the strong arming of Kimmel. He
was back on the air last night and you saw

(47:21):
from the President a threatening once again of ABC that
he talked about the fact that he may have to
sue them again. He referenced specifically they're sixteen million dollars settlement.
Give me a thought about that. And the FCC chairman
who now seems to want to shake down these Sinclair
and Next Star stations for actions that he wants to

(47:42):
see that are favorable to the administration.

Speaker 9 (47:45):
In normal times, this would be an impeachable offense. The
President of the United States is violating the Constitution. The
chairman of the FCC is doing the same thing. These
are not normal times, and therefore we simply have to
expose them and every way we can. And that's why
people should support the Mark Thompson program. And yes, my podcast,
we talk about these things, we repeat these things, and

(48:09):
we just have to keep doing it. You played Ted
Cruz yesterday, I believe, or the day before and his comments.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Cruz Albert the Cruse comments where he uh he and
and Kimmel your referenced Ted Cruz. Did you you know
did you hear it? John? Last night? Cruse I was
referenced by Kimmel and uh you know, Cruise is saying, hey,
I you know, I don't like Jimmy Kimmel. I'd be
happy to see him taking off the air, but he
has the right to say whatever he wants.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
Whatever you think of Ted Cruz, and I am not
a big fan. Although it's true I coined the expression
during the presidential campaign, let's put the country on cruise control.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (48:48):
I want everybody to understand.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
But wait a minute, where did you coin that phrase?
Where for the radio?

Speaker 9 (48:53):
On the radio and public speeches all across the country.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
But when you were campaigning for what?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (48:58):
When I was asked to give comment, Terry and discuss
the presidential campaign, why would you put.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Why would you why would you say something that is
positive toward Ted Cruise if you don't like him?

Speaker 9 (49:09):
Because I wanted people to understand how ridiculous Ted Cruise is.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
But that's that's a whole other issue. I'll tell you
what that is, and I'm calling it out. That was
just you reaching for some play on words, is what
that was. How dare you brag about that? Excuse me?

Speaker 9 (49:24):
May I point out you and I have done that
for years on the radio. U. This to me is
is absolutely critical. This is a battle for freedom of speech.
If the battle is not over, I believe he's just
fired the opening shots. As you reported, or Kim reported.
Donald Trump's put out another post saying that he's shocked

(49:47):
that Kim will be put back on the air. Look,
all I can tell you is this is a lesson
about authoritarianism, about the danger of Donald Trump. Let me
just indicate to you, because I know you've gone the
vaccine thing repeatedly, the fact that the person in charge
of public health in this country is a vaccine denier

(50:07):
and someone who is now criticizing Thailand all with no
scientific basis.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Well, it's more than criticizing it. He's tying it to autism,
a condition that has really been the scourge of many of.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
This This is a disgrace. But remember Mark, this is
the same president who at the height of COVID said
just just drink bleach, which people don't remember. The fact
that I had a discussion with somebody I have great
regard for who said, all you do is criticize Donald Trump,
and I said, you're absolutely right, because every day he

(50:41):
says something else that is egregious, that is criticizable, and
that is wrong, and I think unless it's called out,
we're in big trouble.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
By the way, you heard.

Speaker 9 (50:51):
Senator Tune today, who was who was the leader of
the Republicans, who has asked directly about some of these issues.
He tried to skate it a little bit because he
didn't want to have a royal with a White House.
But when he was asked about a third term for Trump,
he at least is clear and precise the constitution won't
allow it, and I think that also is very important

(51:12):
for people. You're right, that's not nothing. I mean that matters.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So JD.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
Vance.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
JD.

Speaker 9 (51:17):
Vance is on the road to becoming the Republican nominee
for president.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And JD. Vans is joined by Peter Teal, who really
animated his entire political career for those who don't know, Essentially,
Teal had hired Vance in a couple of different positions
at his companies and then moved Vance into the Senate race.
He put seven million dollars into the Senate race, and
Jdvans prevailed in the Senate race, and of course that

(51:43):
put him in scoring position for the vice presidency, and
now he is vice president soon to be president, I
think when Trump vacates that seat, as John has mentioned,
So that's kind of the origin story, at least the
short term origin story on Jdvans politically anyway, right, Jade Vance.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
The other two people who are instrumental in his advancement
were the president's son, Donald Trump Junior, and the president's
other son, Eric. And somebody asked me yesterday who I
thought Jade Vance would take for vice president, and I said,
don't rule out Donald Trump Junior. I believe the Republicans
would absolutely go for that. It's a way of keeping

(52:22):
Donald Trump alive and presence. So these are all matters
that need to be discussed, but I know we have
limited time. I just want people to understand, whether it's
domestic affairs, foreign affairs, wherever it may be. What shocked me,
having worked for Richard Nixon and having witnessed this firsthand,
is when a president of the United States in instructs

(52:44):
his attorney general to prosecute his enemies, his enemies, and
there is no reaction from the Republicans. It is to
me appalling. And I can guarantee you when all the
indictments of Trump were presented and so far forth, the
real indictment needs to be presented against the Republican Party
for acquiescing, because if we're going to have a viable

(53:07):
two party system, we really have to get with it.
May I just say we're about Gavin Newsom very quick.
I know we're running out of time. You never give
me enough time. Mark, Well, it's funny. We think we
give you too much time. But okay, we do disagree
about them. I just want to point out to you
that Gavin Newsom is now making Prop fifty the only
masure on the ballot a critical test of support for

(53:30):
Trump or opposition to Trump. By the way, you saw that,
explain what Prop fifty is.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Please.

Speaker 9 (53:35):
Prop fifty has to do with our ability to redistrict
in an off year.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
It's the answer to Texas essentially. Yeah, it is the
but but the reality is, what about Prop fifty in California?

Speaker 9 (53:48):
It is a test of Gavin Newsom, and.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
It's also it's not it doesn't have the awareness that
right now, based on early polling, it doesn't have the
awareness that it needs. I know.

Speaker 9 (53:58):
But if they're going to devote money to this and
it's the only measure on the California ballot, it is
their only measure.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
There's a fortune being devoted to knock down the no
on fifty. As you know, the media blitz is real.
I mean, I mean, let me.

Speaker 9 (54:17):
That's one plank in his platform. The next plank in
his platform has to do with the legislation he signed
last weekend saying you can't wear a mask if you
are an ACE agent. What Gavin Newsom is doing, whether
you're a fan or not, is cobbling together a platform
on which he can stand saying I haven't just talked,

(54:39):
I have acted, and that to me, is going to
be an important part of his campaign for the Democratic
nomination for president.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
The Feds can bigfoot any legislation in California about the masks.

Speaker 9 (54:55):
Right, John, Theoretically, I mean theoretically or I mean it depends.
There would then be a court case and testing it.
But remember, and I hate to keep bringing up history,
our Civil War was fought over federal rights versus state rights,
and in this case, most of us I believe here

(55:16):
in California hope that the states position will prevail. But
it is a battle between the same concept popular sovereignty,
the right of a state to determine whether it be
slave or free in those days. But this is on
the question of reapportionment. Traditionally, reapportionment comes about after the census,

(55:39):
so every ten years there's reapportionment. What is happening now
is unprecedented, and what is even more unprecedented is the
plan that Texas legislature adopted wasn't written by the Texas
legislature was written by Donald Trump, and he's very proud
of that fact. So the question of states rights and
national rights is going to be a critical question.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
But that reapportionment thing, you kind of jumped the tracks
on me. I was asking you about the masks and
you said, well, that's and you're right, it comes down
to state rights.

Speaker 9 (56:06):
I'm just curious how you handicapped. Seems same thing with
same thing, different the same principle. But you understand these
are real issues. And what will be interesting with the
Supreme Court, which I would remind you reconvenes in just
a week and a half. The real question of the
Supreme Court is will lay uphold the idea of separation
of powers? Will lay up old the question of states

(56:28):
rights or federal rights? And the Republicans traditionally are states
rights people, but I think in this case the odds
are they will side with Donald Trump in a political move.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I think so as well. Becky e, whose birthday it
is a rural I'll give her this question. Rural hospitals
in northern California are already slated for closing thanks to
Donald Trump, she says, and these are maga arias and
hopefully they'll figure out that they are about to be
in danger as a result of his policy.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
That's happening throughout the areas that Donald Trump carried heavily
because they are the most dependent on federal programs, as
we all know. So if there are these major cuts,
let me remind you that Donald Trump's major cuts do
not go into effect until after the mid term elections.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
And leave me. That is precisely what they have in mind.
That's exactly right. Super clever of them.

Speaker 9 (57:26):
John, would you mind calling my wife and saying I'm
absolutely right, which.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
You are, super clever, super smart. She knows it, and
by now it's too late for her to turn back.
I am telling you that John will be here most Wednesdays,
but apparently there's some Wednesday he can't make it in October,
but it's not for a few weeks, so don't worry
about it. He'll be back next Wednesday. Can be found
on the Voice SF dot org The Voice SF dot

(57:52):
org and his podcast is around the political World but
John Rothman. It's a daily dose of Rothman magic. Love
running around the schoolyard with you, John.

Speaker 9 (58:03):
Thank you, and I want to close by urging people
to support the Mark Thompson program. You can see now
the importance of free speech more than ever. And believe me, Mark,
if the president could do it, he'd yank you off
the air, and he'd yank me off the air too.
So we have an.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
Obligation to support each other.

Speaker 9 (58:19):
So support the Mark Thompson program.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Thank you so much, my friend John Rothman. Everybody all right, right,
happy to know you're right, exactly, Happy to know your
lads and girls. Yeah, this is the Mark Thompson show yourself, right,
I mean between the rapture and then the Jewish New Year.
I mean there's a lot going on. Is I don't
know whether day you.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Know, isn't this the final day of that of the rapture?

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Talk like this is it?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
If it doesn't happen today.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Who's closest to being a rapture? Albert? Do you follow
the rapture?

Speaker 9 (58:50):
Is?

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I feel like today was the last day? I think
Kim's right, Tuesday was It'll either be i'd heard Tuesday
or Wednesday. Is what I've heard? Is that is that
more or less right heard?

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Someone in the chat will smile.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Maybe someone in the chat who is more rapture centric
than we are.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You would think the rapture would be a morning situation,
not an evening situation. So I think I think we're safe.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Well that's the kind of you know, you're not a believer.
I can tell, because, uh, that's something that a non
believer would say. I mean, the idea is, there's no
I would think that it would be in the morning,
not the evening. That's not you're just creating.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Really, you know, pack a punch to start the day. Yeah,
my words upset so many people. Yeah, maybe they'll give
us one last peaceful, calm day to enjoy.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
That's the thing. Yeah, before you go on to eternal
peace and eternal calm and magic. There was a single
mom crying on TikTok that she sold her house and car.
Not sure if it's real, but seem to be believable.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Wow, there's been a lot of those on TikTok. So, yeah,
people are freaking out during these times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It seems to me like a reach if the rapture
doesn't happen, let me just again, Born to peacefully reapply, fortunately,
born to peacefully resistant, born to peacefully protest. We have
both t shirts at Getmark merch dot com. And I
love the because I'm in the coffee mugs. So I
love the Peacefully Resist coffee mug. And it has our

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show logo on the backside. And there's one that has
the show logo like this, and then there's another that
has the kind of bigger show logo if you like that.
So these are two different designs. But there it is
the mug and the T shirt. And you know, again,
let's face it, at least at this point rapture hasn't

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shown up. May as well look good, send a message
and drink out of a coffee cup that sends the
right message if you are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Wearing the shirt or drinking from the mug. Do you
think that would mean that you would get sucked up
to heaven or would you get left behind?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I don't know. I think it wouldn't matter. I think
it falls into the not you know. Oh, there's a
Project nineteen eighty four and a half mug. I didn't
know that. That's very cool. I love product nine eighty
four and a half for it, excuse me nineteen eighty
four of course of George or book. So this being
Project nineteen eighty four and a half with a growing
surveillance state that is going to police speech and all

(01:01:25):
the rest. It seems like this is Project nineteen eighty
four and a half that we're living through. So I
really like it. But whatever you do, fill it. Fill
that coffee cup with Coachella Valley coffee. What coffee goes
best with the raptures genre, Well, your Coachella Valley coffee,
it come goes best with any occasion. But I mean

(01:01:50):
I usually get the two pound bags. Sometimes I get
a five pound bags. I think some of the best
value with the ten percent off discount mark t at checkout.
If you're really counting on the rapture, I just get
a one pound bag because no need to get thee
too or leave the other You can get a two
pound bag or a five pound bag. Leave it behind

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for the non believers who will be behind, and do
something nice for the non believers. That's all I'm saying.
I mean, that's a way to game out the rapture.
Everybody's so about themselves during the rapture, Why don't you
think about the other people left behind? Anyway? That's the
clarity blend is my fave. But there is a half calf.

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Mark tea at checkout for ten percent off. Only other
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All right, Uh, release thee the minifin file, says Tom Gray.

(01:04:20):
That's right, I said. I said.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
It's commonly known as pilot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
All yeah, release those files, Big Tuna says with a
five dollars super chat. Hey, Mark, Kim and Albert, did
you guys see the article about the Epstein and Trump
statue in DC holding hands in front of the Capitol Building.
Not only did I see it, I have it in
the show. Albert, let's show it now, just because Big
Tuna has mentioned it, there is a an Epstein and

(01:04:47):
Trump statue in front of the Capitol Building. I'm trying
to think if I sent you the article or if
I sent you. I don't think I has he has it, okay,
Albert will show it to you. Now this as well,
that is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, that is in honor of Friendship Day, and they're
going to leave it up there until Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's Epstein and Trump in kind of a this is
for those who are just listening and not seeing, in
kind of what would you call that frolicking, Yeah, kind
of frolicking holding hands with the other hand extended out
and with the yeah exactly. It looks like they're kind
of skipping along almost. And that's a great shot with
the capital in the background, and it's on a marble

(01:05:39):
I don't know if it's really marble or not, but
it looks great. And then there's a plaque below, so
somebody like this is to memorialize the relationship between Jeffrey
Epstein and Donald Trump. It's pretty crazy. So thank you
Big Tuna for reminding us of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
The plaque says, we celebrate the long lasting bond between
President Donald Jay Trump and his closest friend, Jeffrey Epstein.
That's what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The place that's really great. It's just really really great.
I am I've never seen anything like it. Yeah. Big
Tuna also says, oh, this is on the I'm just
looking at this for the first time. The Big Tuna says,
So they want to influence our youth at an impressionable
time of their mental emotional development, to mold them into

(01:06:24):
followers of the regime Project twenty twenty five. Yeah. Oh,
that's the presence on high school campuses and also on
the battle on a speech of all sorts. Yeah, I
think that. I think they you know, everybody's trying to
win everybody's hearts and minds, but you'd like to win
the hearts and minds of the youth of America kind
of in the forum of ideas. You know, if you're
if you end up a more conservative person, then all right,

(01:06:47):
but let's at least make it a fair discussion of ideas.
You know, you end up, you know, you end up
a tree hugger like myself. I know, at least no
the reasons that you're hugging those trees, et cetera. So
Luis for the five dollars super Chest says, why do
we continue to be shocked or act shocked and outraged

(01:07:11):
at Donald Trump's incompetence? Are we suffering from some sort
of global social Alzheimer's Take some Thailand all well, I mean, yeah,
is it kind of a Stockholm syndrome?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Said I said, a menifin commonly known as Thailandol.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Take some, and I mean I think we're not shocked.
Maybe we are, but I think the more we are
exposed to the different forums, the different places, the different
ways in which Donald Trump's extremism is manifested, I think,
you know, maybe we're we're sort of shocked over and

(01:07:50):
over again. The media companies worried about free speech, as
we's theory of the five dollars, super chat, free speech
and expression. They need to combine forces in campaign for
off fifty. Yeah, I mean that just isn't That's not
just that's just not going to happen. You know, that's
just not going to happen. The media companies are afraid

(01:08:10):
of taking a side. All right. Yesterday, at this time
I had a chance to the Mark Thompson Show. Yesterday,
We're on at roughly the same time Tom Hartman and myself,
And I'm a massive fan of Tom Hartman. I just
think he's a wonderful voice and perspective, his view of

(01:08:31):
American history, his series of writings on American history are
extraordinary and simple and accessible. He writes on all things
related to American life. So he has a new book,
and I invited him in for a conversation. We had
the conversation yesterday at this time or the laughter this time,
and here it is now the great Tom Hartman. So

(01:08:53):
check it out. I'm pretty excited whenever this guy comes
through our lives. He is my progressive north star. How
about it for the insanely brilliant Tom Hartman. Everyone, congratulations
on yet another book. How many is this for you?
Tom Hartman?

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:09:15):
Somewhere insanely prolific.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
The latest is the last American President. And this book
is wonderful in bringing together not only history of Donald Trump,
some of which I was really unaware of. You know,
I kind of thought, I know the origin story of Trump,
and maybe a lot of us feel this way. But
you have stuff in here that is it speaks to

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his relationship with his father in very specific ways that
sort of set the table for who he'll later be.
And then just kind of make a broader point. I
want to go back to that one because maybe you
can share a thing or two, but then you bring
us into how he moves into an America that is
already set up really for Donald Trump to exploit. And

(01:10:02):
it's it's really almost an elegant story that you tell.
So take me to his origin story again and share
a couple of those specifics, if you would please.

Speaker 10 (01:10:12):
Sure, Donald first of all, was a difficult child by
all reports, and so his father ended up sending him
to a military academy, not a real one, to pretend one,
but it's still you know, it was like being in
the military. And during the summer when he would come home,

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his mother would leave and go to Scotland. She was
a Scottish immigrant. Apparently Trump Trump men only marry immigrant women.

Speaker 6 (01:10:40):
I don't know what the deal is.

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
And you know, so he had an apparent lack of
maternal caring and his father, according to his niece, you know,
Mary Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
Was a psychopath, or at least associopath.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
Was you know, badly disturbed man who just kind of
beat into Donald Trump. I don't mean physically necessarily, but
psychologically beat into him that you got to be a killer,
you got to be a winner, you got to be
on top. If you don't, you're a failure. You know,
mediocre doesn't make it. And you know, probably with the
best of intentions, you know, trying to turn this bully,

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troubled kid into into something you know, good, but it
I think it damaged him quite badly. And you can
see that, you know, when he when you know, he
desperately needs attention and validation. He's just got this empty bucket,
you know, his this hole in his heart and his soul.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
And so he has you know, his his.

Speaker 10 (01:11:45):
Cabinet praise him. Uh, he has business leaders get together
and they all have to praise him. He loves doing
rallies because you know, people tell him they love him,
and they applaud him, and these are these these are
the ways that he feels love and and it's really
kind of a sad and tragic story, this very very
wounded man who then after yet you know, kind of

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escaping his father's his father, ended up with Alzheimer's after
leaving his father.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
Basically, he needed a new mentor. He's he's not.

Speaker 10 (01:12:20):
Smart the way that you know, you would think of
intellectual smart, but he is very wise, street wise and wiley.
But he needed another mentor and so he got introduced
to Roy Cohne and Roy Cohne, who you know, bragged
about getting Ethel Rosenberg the electric chair just because it
was fun. Who you know, just was the mob's lawyer.

(01:12:44):
He was lawyer for two different mob families in New
York City. Just a real tough guy, a gay, a
closeted gay man who went out of his way to
destroy the careers of other gay men. And Roy Cone
taught him basically, never admit that you made a mistake,
Never admit that you're wrong. When somebody comes after you,
always attack them in a bigger way than they attack you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
And uh, that pugnacity, that that that that attack that
Roy Cone did. Sometimes when you're watching Trump when he's speaking,
it really feels like you're watching roy Cone all over again.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
And roy Cone was, of course Joe McCarthy's right hand man.
And what ultimately took roy Cone down was was you
know that that lawyer for the army saying, you know,
have you at last no decency, sir? And I think
that that's kind of the moment that we saw this
last week with the Jimmy Kimmel thing, where the average
American just kind of sat up and said what And

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I think it was very very similar to that moment.
It was a kind of a national awakening moment.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
So, oh, that's interesting. I'll double back to that maybe.
So so into this America, This Trump, who you know,
is again, uh, the result of crafted by a father
who who you know, was teaching him to be the
attack dog. And you have the you kind of lay
out these interactions that he's had both with Roy con

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and his dad, and then you talk about America, and
you talk about the ways in which America was changing
and sort of becoming ripe for a guy like Trump
to exploit, either wittingly or unwittingly, these kinds of aspects
of America that seemed to permit his dominance.

Speaker 10 (01:14:27):
Yeah, a bunch of right wing billionaires got together back
in the seventies and funded basically a couple of different
projects that were based on Lewis Powell's nineteen seventy one
memo suggesting that it was time for wealthy people and
the businesses that made them wealthy to stop being a
political and start getting into the political arena, and that

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they needed to take over media, they needed to take
over education, they needed to take over you know, basically
ultimately the government itself, and and so a number of
infrastructures were created with the goal of acquiring power that
are now being used to not just extend that power,

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but take that power away beyond I think anything that
the creators of these had in mind. Frankly, you know
many of them have passed on, but now, including David Cooke,
you know, things like fifteen hundred right wing radio stations,
three right wing television networks, a state policy institute in
every single state, the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, the

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you know, yearly go on and on. There's literally nothing
like this on the left. The left does not have
a think tank in every state that's funded by billionaires.
That the left does not have an American Legislative Exchange Council,
where in every state around the country the legislators get
together with lobbyists every year or twice a year, i believe,

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and basically right legislation for it to be introduced. The
left has no fifteen hundred radio stations and three television networks,
and the closest we've got is MSNBC and Free Speech
TV on the television side. And you know, one station
on Serious Exam and a handful of kind of lefty

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broadcasters around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
That's wild, because of course the picture that the right
effectively paints apparently is that, you know, left wing dominance,
left wing radicals, media is all left and all this
sort of thing. I always talk with the media. You're
kidding these The tapestry of right wing radio stations is
you know, is immense. And as you suggested, I mean,
I think there's just utter media dominance on the right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:16:43):
That wasn't the case when they started these campaigns in
the seventies and eighties, but it's very much the case today.
And so there was this entire right wing ecosystem set
up to support basically whoever was in power on the
Republican side, as long as they would cut taxes for
billionaires and deregulate industry.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
I mean that that's really what they wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
But you taught you mentioned the books already interrupt Tom,
But I was going to ask you if you could,
just because I thought it was very interesting how you
tied sort of the Southern strategy and the the things
associated with a kind of racism that was underpinning a
lot of things. You tied that in also to sort
of this evolution of the country that's led to this.

Speaker 10 (01:17:29):
Yeah, you know Nixon, of course, you know, two aspects
of Nixon. One was the Southern strategy, which was, you know, course,
in nineteen sixty four and sixty five, the Civil Rights
and Voting Rights Act were passed and signed into law
by President and Johnson, a Democrat, and passed through majority
Democratic House and Senate. And so Nixon's Southern strategy was

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to reach out to those Southern Democrats who felt abandoned
the racist the white racists, so Democrats who felt abandoned
by the Democratic Party because it had embraced those things.
And and and in fact, I mean it was quite successful.
I believe that there has not been a Democratic presidential
nominee who has won a majority of the white vote

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since Jimmy Carter, and maybe before that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
I'd have to go back and look, but it's been
a long time.

Speaker 10 (01:18:23):
And you know, it's in large part because the Democrats
basically said, you know, we're no longer going to endorse
racism and segregation and white white supremacy, so.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
That that end.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
And then also the war on drugs.

Speaker 10 (01:18:39):
You know, John Haldeman or John Erlickman rather, you know,
told a reporter just straight up.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
You know, we couldn't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:47):
We had two enemies, the max Some administration, the anti
war hippies and black people, and we couldn't make it
illegal to be black or to be a hippie. So
what we did was we heavily criminalized heroin and marijuana,
which the black people on the hippies could be you know, uh,
you know used, and you know, we use that to

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disrupt their communities and break up their societies and culture
and basically destroy them.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
And that's still going on. That's still really on. And
in a way, I'd argue.

Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
That what's going on with Ice right now is just
kind of a reinvention of Nixon's war on drugs, only
now it's a warren brown people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Right, I was going to say, it looks a lot
like like Ice. So then take us again into this
nation that is changing, evolving. There are efforts to kind
of wrest the political power from an emerging minority, you know,
or growing political power from that emerging minority, and and

(01:19:49):
speak to then how how Trump and trump Ism then
gets to be woven into all that.

Speaker 10 (01:19:55):
Yeah, Donald Donald Trump himself, you know, he has a
lifelong hit history of racism and making racist comments. So
he fit in very well with all this, and you know,
being the white supremacist candidate, and you know, the white
backlash to affirmative action, to DEI, to you know, all

(01:20:17):
this basically just making America more egalitarian country is the
wave that Trump has been riding, and the main wave.
The other part of it is that when Reagan came
into office in nineteen eighty one, he undertook a project
to deconstruct the American middle class. They felt that, and

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Russell Kirk laid this out in nineteen fifty three in
his book The Conservative Mind. They felt that the American
middle class had gotten too fat and too wealthy, and therefore,
you know, their children were willing to protest in the streets.

Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
We've got to do away with that.

Speaker 10 (01:20:54):
Let's throw all these kids into student debt so they're
not going to be protesting in the colleges. You had
women who were, you know, burning bras and declaring women's
liberation in the seventies, particularly after Roe v. Waghed seventy three,
and so we got to put the women back in
their place by you know, brush Limbaugh's rants about how

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women are taking your job. You white men just like
those black people were taking your job, and then of course,
you know, go after the minorities. So you know, this
kind of toxic soup just kind of became the Republican
party stick, and Trump was just better at it than

(01:21:37):
anybody else. I mean, you know, he was willing to
say things out loud that other Republicans would never have
said out loud, and frankly, some Republicans like you know,
George Herbert Orker Bush would have been horrified by. But
you know, but really was the dark underbelly of the
GOP and of the conservative movement really itself, going all
the way back to the late eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That what's so interesting to me about that, Tom is
that and I was just talking to a conservative yesterday.
I had him on the show serving the Bush administration,
and he was saying he doesn't recognize his party and that,
you know, the MAGA is not GOP, and I mean,
the typical thing that you hear. But what I think
your book makes clear is that, hey, you guys set
the table for this, and so this is sort of

(01:22:19):
an outgrowth of the kind of thing that you guys
were doing. And I think you also point to something
else that I really wanted you to touch on here,
and that is the oligarchical aspect of America becoming sort
of completely unbridled, you know, this plutocracy that we have
seen birthed, because that's a big part of this too, I.

Speaker 10 (01:22:39):
Would think absolutely, And that was part of Reagan's project
to dismantle the middle class, to disempower the middle class,
because you know, the middle class was, like I said,
getting up aty in the sixties and seventies, and they
just didn't want to have to deal with it and
you know, making demands you know that you know, don't
poison our food and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
So yeah, it absolutely And.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
By the way that they used that destruction of middle class,
I mean Reagan declared a war on unions. Two thirds
of us were unionized or had the equivalent of a
union job. One third of us had a union job
that set the wage floor for another third of us.
So two thirds of us had the equivalent of a
communion job. So in nineteen eighty one, when Reagan came
into office, one salary could provide the standard middle class life,

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which is you buy a house, you buy a car
every two or three years, you take a vacation, every
year you put your kids through school, and you have
enough money to retire, you know, when you hit old age.
And now it takes two point three salaries.

Speaker 9 (01:23:41):
To do that, and.

Speaker 6 (01:23:44):
That still doesn't put you in the middle class.

Speaker 10 (01:23:45):
We've gone from two thirds of us being in the
middle class in nineteen eighty one down to a little
less than fifty percent of us in the middle class
right now. And so what Trump did so deftly was say, yeah,
you guys have been screwed. We all know you've been screwed,
without acknowledging that it was Reaganism that did it and
saying and it's the Democrats who did it to you.

(01:24:06):
And it's kind of just a revival of the of
the old stick from the nineteen twenties right up through
the night right up through the Southern strategy Nix and
Southern strategy in the seventies of the black people are
taking your stuff, The black people are taking your job,
you know, the black people are taking the opportunities that
should have been yours. The black people are taking your

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spot in college that you know, et cetera, et cetera.
And Trump was just really good at playing that card.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
And you talk about this in the book too, that
the playing of that card, playing different lies and repeating them,
I mean, unapologetic repetition of these lies, and it's effective
in this media landscape particularly, Trump was so effective in
just never blinking, an unflinching commitment to the lie.

Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
Yeah yeah, I FDR pointed this out back in the
day that the this is what Hitler did was, you know,
never tell a small lie. I always tell a big one,
because the big one will be believed just by its
very audacity, and then repeated over and over and over again,
and never.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
Admit that you're wrong, and never back away from it.
And you know, that's what Donald Trump has been doing.

Speaker 10 (01:25:18):
I mean, you know, the Washington Post document over thirty
thousand lies he told during his first administration. But the
big ones, the biggest one, of course, was that he
lost the twenty twenty elier that he didn't lose the
twenty twenty election.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
But these these big lies are just extraordinarily destructive to
our society.

Speaker 10 (01:25:35):
And so you've got this, you know, group of right
wing billionaires who really just wanted to tax cuts and deregulation.
They just wanted to get richer and richer and stay richer.
And richer, and they didn't like to be supporting the
social safety net with their taxes. You know, basically paved
the ground for neo fascism, which, by the way, is
what happened in Germany in the late nineteen twenties and

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early nineteen thirties.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
The whole thing quack so a little like that, you know,
like the r.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
Wrote a book.

Speaker 10 (01:26:04):
You know, he was the wealthiest industrialist in Germany on
Tyson steel Works, and he wrote a book.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
Clive paid Hitler.

Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
He ended up having to flee the country with his
family because Hitler turned on him.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
You know, dictators tend to turn.

Speaker 10 (01:26:17):
On people if they're not completely compliant, and you know,
and he basically was an apologia. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
So my dad was when I was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you off. I was
just gonna I was gonna say, I was going to
I mean, it's so alarming. That narrative is so scary.
You lay out this way in which you can sort
of see this crescendo building, and I was so happy
to see that at the end of your book, you

(01:26:50):
do give us a route toward you know, all is
not lost and there is still a chance here because
it's a pretty grim picture of how we got here
and sort of the institutions that seemed to be protecting
some of the grimmest stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:27:07):
Yeah, and and the voter suppression too, you know, the
ways that they're rigging democracy itself, voter suppression and jerrymandering,
and they're now doing this right out in public, you know,
bragging about it even. But yeah, we need to remember,
you know, the promise of America, the values of America.
We need to remind America of that as well as ourselves,
and you know, we need to reconnect with those values,

(01:27:30):
and we need to fight for those values. It's it's
it's you know, Republicans love to talk about they're all
about values. Really that's code for hating on queer people
and black people and women. But it really is, at
the end of the day, all about values. This you know,
in fact, I think to a fairly large extent, one

(01:27:50):
of the biggest mistakes Democrats are making even right now.
I just you know, heard Hakim Jeffrey's being interviewed on
MSNBC is talking policy instead of values.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Policies should flow out of values.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
The Republicans have been doing this for forty years they
talk about values and then they and then they create
policy that may or may not actually reflect those.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
Values, but they market it that way.

Speaker 10 (01:28:12):
Yeah, so yeah, we're gonna we love the value of prosperity,
so how are we going to give you prosperity.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
We're going to cut taxes.

Speaker 10 (01:28:19):
You know, we love the value of equality and opportunity
and education.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
So how are we going to get there. We're going
to do away with affirmative action.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
It's just it's it's incredible, and the Democrats need to
be doing this too. They need to start with values.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
It's it is messaging, and it's politics has always been messaging.
And you know, I was just reading this morning about
how they're rebranding the Big Beautiful Bill because they're finding
that people don't like the Big Beautiful Bill and all
that's implied there something they want to rebrand it is
that with a tax cut like tax cut reference reference
biggest middle class tax cut bill.

Speaker 10 (01:28:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
So it's look, as of course, you know, the whole
thing is a lie. It's a scary time when I
see the weaponization of the DOJ that just is right
out in the open. And that's the one thing about
Trump is that there's no sleight of hand, you know, Tom,

(01:29:17):
he really does state it right out front, and it's
remarkable to me that there is no pushback except for
the fear of that the GOP has of losing their
power base, losing I'm talking about literally their job in Congress,
in the Senate, in the House wherever. I mean, these
are people who are desperately hanging onto power another literally

(01:29:38):
wearing these gold pins with Trump's face. The FCC chairman
was wearing that the other day, and there was even
something kicking around Washington about how all GOP will be
asked to wear the gold pin with Trump. It's like
this mallised you know, weirdness that I thought it's insane.
I mean, it just feels like one big it would
be laughable where it not's so horrible.

Speaker 10 (01:30:00):
Federal buildings now that have forty foot tall pictures of
Trump's face hanging from them. You know, this is Saddam
Hussein kind of stuff. Uh and uh and yeah, the
little maupins Brendan Carr was wearing one year, right, It's
it's a cult. It has become a cult, and that's
what Trump wants. And frankly, frankly I think Mark that

(01:30:23):
that that's going to be his downfall is that, you know,
he is actually telling people what he's doing, and he
is demanding you know, I mean, he's demanding the Pam.

Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
BONDI prosecutes political political enemies.

Speaker 10 (01:30:35):
Excuse me, you know, he's he's I you know, dictators
always go too far, and the question is do they
go too far before or after they've got the power
to enforce it. And I don't think he yet has
the power to enforce it, but he's damn close. I mean,
he's got the Supreme Court, I believe he has.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
I'm terrified.

Speaker 10 (01:30:56):
I wrote about this in my op ed today, my
Harmond report out ed, I think the Supreme Court is
absolutely terrified that he's going to do to them like
he has done to over one hundred. Federal judges that
have ruled against him are getting like pizzas delivered to
them in the middle of the night by way of saying,
we know where you are and we can kill you,
just like we killed the son of Judge Ester Salas.

(01:31:16):
Federal Judgester Salas, who had ruled against him, and she
was you know, her son was murdered and her husband
was shot by a young man dressed up as a
FedEx delivery guy who was a volunteer in the drum campaign,
and you know, he and the initial news report said
that he was actually a pizza delivery guy, and that's

(01:31:37):
how this pizza thing started. But it's ongoing. And I
think you've got six terrified members of the US Supreme
Court as well.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
That's fascinating because the Court, as you know, has pretty
good protections. I mean, they can they have security that
a lot of others who are public servants sooner we
are also exposed to that kind of thing don't have.
But yet you honestly, that's the first explanation I've heard
that kind of makes sense as to why they are
just such supplicants when it comes to almost anything Trump

(01:32:06):
wants from them.

Speaker 10 (01:32:07):
I think that's why they're doing it on the shadow
docket too, because if you make a decision on the
shadow docket, it's not precedent sure, so after Trump is gone,
they can undo the damage that they're doing to the country.
I think that's how they're rationalizing it to themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
So it's it's all of a kind and troubling. The
book is really interesting because how we got here is
fascinating and there's a lot to it. And I didn't
even get to the environmental stuff, which is, you know,
bums me out to the end of the earth. You
you detail that, and it's sad because of you say

(01:32:42):
in your book. Hey, you know, first go around was
you know, took us so far again in terms of
the war on the environment, and now it's really kind
of apocalyptic.

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
Oh yeah, and this morning at the United Nations and
saying global warming is a hoax, like climate change as
a hoax?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Yeah, I mean yeah. And by the way, if you
if you listen to him, Tom, it was like that
was the greatest threat to the world is alternative energy,
right winds? Yes, it was. It was disgusting.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
I think he believes it. I you know, I think
he started out.

Speaker 10 (01:33:16):
You'll recall he had that group of fossil field billionaires
and wealthy executives, multimillionaire executives in the room and he said,
you guys, give me a billion dollars and I'll do
whatever you want. I'm not sure that they gave him
a billion, but they gave him enough, and he's doing
exactly what they want. And he's obviously listening to their scientists,
and they do have you know, a handful of scientists
in their pockets who who will you know, for an

(01:33:38):
appropriate amount of money tell you that there is no
such thing as global warming.

Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
It or it is, but it's not a big deal.

Speaker 10 (01:33:44):
The Earth has been warmer than this in the past,
which is true, by the way, but you know this
kind of you know, but this doing it there weren't
humans then and doing it this way is going to
create a disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I mean, you know it's so well. I mean the
policy of taking something that's like eighty percent completed, that
the wind farm off the East coast, and and just
scrapping it. I mean, that's a great.

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
Or just blocked him from blocking that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
So can that can that force that additional government funding
or will it just lie there?

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Don't know, don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:34:17):
It's it's going to go to the Supreme Court and
it'll probably end up on the shadow of docket and
they'll probably give it to Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:34:22):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
That's it's just all of a grotesque kind.

Speaker 10 (01:34:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
The last American President is the book Tom Hartman, you know,
crazy about you and love it when you come through
our world. So again, I appreciate you making time, and
thanks again, my friend.

Speaker 10 (01:34:38):
It's always an honor and a pleasure to be on
the program with you, Mark anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
All the best to use love my Tom Hartman. Love
him really really cool that he uh that he came on,
and that book is really good. All of his stuff
is just so accessible and great. So we'll have a

(01:35:02):
link under this video. I know you're thinking, we can't
get it all in. How do they do it? It's
a two hour show and yet there's all this stuff
there we still have. It's the planet stupid to look
at the planet and the environment that we do every Wednesday.
We'll get to that in just a second. I believe

(01:35:23):
that Belinda left us a video today, so he did. Yeah, yeah,
so that'll be fun. I did want to get to
a couple of comments, one of which is from Champagne Wishes,
who says, Mark, the DOJ has always been used as
a weapon. Okay, I'll grant you that, but you've never

(01:35:44):
had a president say I want my attorney general to
go after these people I know they're guilty, and fire
attorneys general along the way to make the point. I mean,
you've just had it. This is unprecedented, all right. So
the idea. I get it. The DOJ government itself has

(01:36:06):
been weaponized along the way. I even say, and I
would grant you this that during the Biden administration there
were some selective prosecutions associated with Donald Trump. I mean,
just the order in which things were brought I thought
was interesting. Although I thought the Trump administration or Donald
Trump personally got a huge break from Merrick Garland, who

(01:36:30):
slow walked everything. I mean, these are such institutionalists. They
were of that whole view, we don't want to go
after them because then they'll go after us, and you know,
we don't want it to look like a political persecution.
They were so worried about the look. And then finally,
after the congressional laying bare of what happened on J six,
they were forced at the Justice Department to do something.

(01:36:52):
So I think the notion that, you know, the DOJ
has always been used as a weapon, I get it.
That's kind of a fascile way to handle everything. Oh
you know, come on, government's always been flawed, blah blah. Yeah,
that really glosses over what's happening now. It's it's of
another kind. I think you'd have to concede that when
have you had the president, you know, calling out for

(01:37:14):
specific prosecutions of his opponents and doing it openly. So
I just won't concede that point as in any way,
Well it's always been that way. No, it hasn't always
been that way, even as I recognize horrible abuses from
the FBI, from the Justice Department, et cetera, that and
then really awful abuses under other administrations. Kim, how do

(01:37:40):
you want to do your news in relation to this?

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Well, let's do a little news and then we'll go
right to It's the Planet Stupid news.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
First, and then it's the Planet Stupid smash the Live
do it like you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Yes, you're iron Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Thanks for the thumbs up, Kim's News. And then it's
the Planet Stupid Mark Thompson Show, The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Home on The Mark Thompson Show. I'm Kim McCallister. This
report is sponsored by Coachellavalleycoffee dot Com. Jimmy Kimmel's return
to late night racking up millions of views online. There
have been at least fifteen million views on Instagram and

(01:38:28):
YouTube of his monologue from last night. Late night TV
host temporarily removed from his program by the Walt Disney
Companies ABC Television Network for comments about Trump's reaction to
the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. President Trump is
now saying he can't believe ABC quote fake news gave
Jimmy Kimmel his job back. Trump also indicating his administration

(01:38:52):
might take action legal action against ABC, saying Kimmel is
an arm of the DNC and that could be a
major illegal campaign contribution. At least two detainee, one is
in critical condition after a shooter open fire on a
Dallas ice facility that according to Homeland Security. The shooter

(01:39:14):
has reportedly been identified as twenty nine year old Joshua
John Jahn. He was found dead from a self inflicted
wound at a nearby apartment building and right now the
FBI is investigating the shooting as an act of targeted violence.
The Department of Agriculture will receive help from Ben Carson

(01:39:34):
to implement the Make America Healthy Again agenda. Oh, Ben Carson,
isn't he the guy that was fired last time for
ordering expensive furniture for.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
The housing a million dollars to redecorate. He wasn't fired
for it? No, no, no, no, No, he was, but
he it was noted that he spent a million dollars
to redecorate his office.

Speaker 9 (01:39:53):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
No for Alside Carson, who is the Housing and Urban
Development Carson, who was the Housing and Urban Development Secretary
during the first Trump administration, will now serve as a
Senior Nutrition Housing Advisor Nutrition and Senior Nutrition and Housing

(01:40:15):
Advisor I see on issues of nutrition and housing. He
apparently is the expert, the agency said. Carson will also
help implement the Rural Health policies related to nutrition, health
and housing. Carson says he's honored to work with Secretary
Rawlins on these important initiatives to help fulfill President Trump's
vision for a healthier, stronger.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
America, already calling his interior designer too. Yeah, let's redecorate
that office.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
As a first move, bring back the conference table. California
Governor Gavin Newsom appeared on Tuesday Night's edition of The
Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Newsom wasting no time going
after President Trump and Republican led redistricting efforts. He spoke
about Proposition fifty, meant to counteract Republican led efforts to

(01:41:03):
redraw congressional districts in Texas. He also spoke about the
bill he recently signed into law that will ban law enforcement,
including ice agents, although enforcing the law against federal agents
if he from covering their faces. Newsom and Colbert poked
fun at the governor's social media posts, mocking President Trump's
style of tweeting or posting on social media as well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
I think John Rothman was onto something we talked earlier
about Gavin Newsom, why he's doing certain things that seemed
maybe futile or you know, sort of destined not to
really prevail. For example, I think the mask policy, you know,
the idea. I think it's it's a righteous battle not
allowing these ice agents to wear these masks because they

(01:41:48):
go on these raids and that creates all kinds of
problem that they're wearing these masks. But that said, it's
likely that the FEDS will just you know, bigfoot the
States on this. But it and this is the point.
It is making clear the fact that gavinism is doing something.
He's not just rhetorically pushing back. So the frustration that

(01:42:10):
many feel is, how come the Democrats don't do something
Gavin can at least say, And I call him Gavin.
I've never met him. I've met him. Actually I just haven't.
I don't really know him, but he can say, Hey,
I'm not just talking. I'm trying to do things in
my own state.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Yes, it's all true. I've met him as well. American
shoppers are pointing at the cost of groceries as being
a major source of stress in their life. Hey, I
thought that was supposed to be fixed in the last election.
Mark what happened? What happen? The sentiment comes as data
from the Consumer Price Index shows grocery prices rising zero

(01:42:48):
point six percent from July to August, marking the steepest
one month gain in roughly three years. Groceries are now
two point seven percent higher than a year ago grocery
prices and up nearly thirty percent sent from before the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
So they rose a little over a percentage point, a
little over a half a percentage point. As we were saying,
point six percent, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
The owners of Camp Mystic in Texas say they will
be reopening next summer. Twenty seven young girls and counselors
died at that summer camp in July during flooding in
the Hill Country. New York Times reporting, the owners announced
the decision in two emails sent hours apart yesterday. There
are plans to build a memorial at the camp that
families of the victims are against it, saying they were

(01:43:30):
never consulted and they don't approve of it. About five around, okay,
out of five hundred thousand products sold and distributed on
Amazon are being recalled. I'll say five hundred thousand, not
out of but five hundred thousand. This is according to
the Consumer Products Safety Commission. Items affected by this recall

(01:43:52):
include power banks, children's helmets that's a problem, dressers, portable
fans and cribmobiles, and baby loungers. Safety concerns range from
fire hazards to the risk of suffocation and injury. So
if you're an Amazon customer, check the list of recalls
to make sure you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Don't have it. I'm sorry, yeah, Look, see, the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
White House is unveiling its new Presidential Walk of Fame.
The collection, positioned right outside the Oval Office, features portraits
of US presidents, with the exception of former President Biden.
They don't want him up there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
I'm guessing Obama's not in there, but maybe he is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
I think he's up on the top of the staircase
in an out of the way area. Former President Biden.
The White House opted to use a framed photo of
an autopen writing his signature. Isn't that classy? President Trump
and his allies have focused on Biden's alleged use of
the autopen, which can be used to sign official documents
in place of the manual signature, and raise questions about

(01:44:51):
his cognitive abilities while in office. But I'll say that
Trump uses that autopen as well. So what does that say?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
I mean, I just don't understand. It's such a thing.
Have to troll Biden like all the time. God, guys,
get down to some work. Does anybody do any work
over there? You're all of them. You're on this jiha
against all of his enemies, and you're still tilling the
Biden soil over and over again. God, get to work
on the ballroom or whatever the bullshit you got going.

(01:45:19):
It's just absolutely crazy, man, just frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
NASA's first mission to orbit the Moon in more than
fifty years could launch sooner than expected. According to NASA's
acting Deputy Associate director, the Artemis two mission is scheduled
to launch no later than April of twenty twenty six,
but could launch as soon as February of twenty twenty six,
and if the mission is successful, NASA aims to launch

(01:45:44):
Artemis three in twenty twenty seven, which would put people
back on the Moon for the first time since the
Apollo era. And lastly, Las Vegas is home to the
number one coffee shop in the nation according to Yelp Reviews,
Yaw Farm Coffee Roaster. Yaw Yaw Farm Coffee Roaster takes

(01:46:06):
the top spot on Yelp's list of best reviewed coffee
shops with ninety five percent five star reviews. Coming in
at number two is ten twenty two Cafe in Oceanside, California,
followed by Rainbow Joe's on the Hawaiian island of Kawaii
and mate Coneigo in Los Angeles. Clearly they have not

(01:46:28):
been to Coachella Valley Coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Well, no, coffee is just a a it's at but
it's not. It's not a place you can't drink a coffee,
although they do have.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
A new one. It's at the Palm Springs Airport. I
just thre yeah, they just put it in so super
cool and if they had gone there, they would have
posted that as number one because clearly tis the best.
Coachella Valleycoffee dot com. They've got the Lion's main coffee,
which my husband is loving. I still can live without

(01:47:00):
my vanilla tea.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Have to have it. Kim was actually trying to segue
into a kind of sponsor mentioned and I was jamming
her with the uh yeah, but so sorry about that. Yeah,
you were trying to go you know right, Please continue that.
I have a follow up question about this coffee place
that we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
Because I'm sorry, Yeah, you following where I was. You
were buying what I was selling, and I need you
to be on board with this. Mark's favorite is what
the oo espresso?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
The espresso, I love the Sunrise Blend, I love the Elgato,
and of course I love the clarity. Those are all
really really good. I mean, it's all so good. The
best coffee ever tasted. And as I say, I've had
a coffee on around the all around the known world,
added in the most exotic locations and poured from the

(01:47:51):
most elegant dispensers, and I assure you this is the
finest coffee I've ever tasted. Coachella Valley Cooffee dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Please use the code mark T no spaces m A
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Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Now now I want to go back to that picture
of that place at go back to it. So the
you're saying that, based on yell previews, people like drinking
coffee at this place, this particular, this is called.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
The number one place.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Yeah, number one place.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Y'all y'ah Farm Coffee Roaster in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Wow. And it's based on their reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Based on their reviews, Yes, they get a ninety five
point five star rating.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
So it's not necessarily the coffee their parting. It's just
sort of the place. It's kind of like the ambiance
or well I.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Would imagine if they had sucky coffee, they wouldn't get
good reviews.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Sure. Probably it's probably a mix of those things. Yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Yeah, it's a whole package.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
I get it. Okay, interesting. Interesting, Well, we love our
Coachella Bellley coffee. Yes, as I say, best coffee on earth.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
If you're flying into Palm Springs, stop by.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
Oh my god. Yes, they do have outlets like they'll
I think they do. They're the official coffee of like
the arena there in Palm Springs. As you can imagine
a lot of the the desert footprint of Coachella Valley
Coffee is pretty strong. If you go to the desert
Palm Springs, you'll see it in a lot of places.
But you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
You can just go to the website Coachella Valley Coffee
dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Yeah, you'll get the ten percent off through the website
if you use our code Marketee. Yeahamese coffee as anybody
ever enjoyed a cup? Are you kidding Big E sixty?
When I just told you I've had coffee in the
most exotic locales, in the most exotic ways, most certainly
Vietnamese coffee. There's a good Vietnamese Yeah, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Does Vietnamese coffee stand up to ConA coffee?

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
They're both good, They're both really good.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Yeah good.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
If you have the true Vietnamese coffee, they have the
condensed milk at the bottom and they have super strong
bitter coffee that makes in with it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
It is like they build in the like the cream
or the or the milk. As Albert says, Yeah, they
build it in so you don't have it black. So yeah,
it's a little different anyway, any other questions, coffee questions.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
This is the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
Yes, I'm very unhappy with everything I've heard on your show.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
I am so excited that we have our Wednesday show.
I will just tell you in this moment. Tomorrow Sarah
Kenzier joins. Is that right, Kim? It's pretty pretty big
looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
And this is the maiden voyage of what appears to
be a regular, regularly scheduled appearance from Sarah Kenzi or
she becomes now the Mark Thompson's shows stable.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
I want to say that to me, that's like Christmas
coming early.

Speaker 7 (01:50:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
I think Sarah Kenzier is brilliant. I think she's a
brilliant writer. I think she's a brilliant mind. I think
she is truly she throws heat. It is exciting to
have Sarah Kenzie er on the show at all, and
the notion that she'll be on regularly is super great.
And Kim, if you're the person to thank then I

(01:51:17):
want to thank you because I think you are the
Sarah whisperer on this and I thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you, thank you for thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
So I'm just really excited that she's agreed to do it,
because we're at a moment in if we're in a
free speech era where it's scary right now to come
on any public venue and speak your mind and speak
your truth and say what you really feel, it would
be I mean, I know that she's a published author

(01:51:45):
and this is not her first rodeo, but still at
this moment, you know, when people are being i would
say persecuted for free speech rights. It's very brave of
her to say, yeah, I'll come on with you, I'll
do this, and I'll do it regularly.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
She used to have a podcast, and she's no stranger
to the spotlight. And she's courageous. She's really courageous. So
you're right at a time that one could pull back
in a way. I'm not surprised that she's leaning in.
She's just the best I really, you can tell. I'm
just super excited that she'll be with us. So all right,

(01:52:24):
that'll be tomorrow. But now, on Wednesdays, we like to
take a look at the environment, take a look at
the planet. We do it in a segment called It's
the Planet Stupid, the Planet Earth. Some call me nature.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
I am very passionate about the planet Earth.

Speaker 10 (01:52:41):
A living, breathing planet capable of sustaining whatever life forms
we see fit to deposit on it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Spot.

Speaker 6 (01:52:47):
Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe
we have her on. It's the planet stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
No, no, no, it's the planet stupid. Our guide for
it's the planet stupid. Belinda Weymouth is on the road.
When she comes back, will get her reactions to the
Donald Trump's speech at the UN which did have a
lot to do with the environment and climate. But she
offered up this video presentation of where she is and

(01:53:13):
what she's doing.

Speaker 8 (01:53:23):
Hello, everyone from Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park,
Ken is this wilded up for you? This is a
twenty seven hundred foot drop. That's the south room over there,
which really sadly, I don't know if you can see,
but fire came through a couple of months ago, so
the vegetation is gone from the south room.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
And if we pan around.

Speaker 8 (01:53:47):
Over here and look at the north from you can
see how lush and fabulous it is. There is oak
and all kinds of things. We've just been hiking over there,
so Colorado, it's gorgeous. It's the planet Stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Is that it? I loved it. I loved it, but
I wanted more.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I know it's short and sweet, but it's awesome and
I love how she ended it. It's the planet Stupid.

Speaker 7 (01:54:17):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
That's pretty terrific. That is it's the planet Stupid. For
today more, it's the planet Stupid. No, no, no, it's
the planet Stupid. Next time only on a Mark Thompson show. Wow. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
I've told you it's never easy being in this business
Them Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Yeah, right on, everybody. I'll love finish up. I just
don't want to leave without bringing your attention to my
favorite Department of warhead, Pete Hagsheth. Did you see the
latest out of the Pentagon. You know, he runs the Pentagon,
and Pete Hagsheth is now dis mantling. I believe something

(01:55:03):
that has been there at the Pentagon for some time.
He's disbanding the Advisory Committee on Women in the Military.
It's a seventy five year old advisory committee aimed at
encouraging and retaining women in the armed forces. And this
is something that's been quite successful. I mean, you know,

(01:55:23):
you've seen women rise to the highest ranks of the
military and serve so honorably alongside men in the military.
And the military has had issues with the way that
they have integrated women into the armed forces. But in
any case, it's this seventy five year old advisory committe.
They're always working on the ways and which they can

(01:55:46):
from a strategic standpoint, you know, integrate women into the military.
No more, though, no more. They are a group accused
of promoting a divisive feminist agenda. According to Pentagon officials,
the decision to disband the Defense Advisory Committee on Women

(01:56:07):
in the Services is made by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
He did it over a Gin and tonic on a Tuesday,
and the committee is focused on advancing divisive feminist agenda
that he says hurts combat readiness, and the department is
advancing uniform sex neutral standards across the department. It's a

(01:56:32):
quote from the Pentagon statement the acting Deputy Press Secretary
defending the decision to disband this group, suggesting that the
committee was no longer needed because everything is fixed. You
see at the Pentagon, there are no more issues. So
let's get wait that lowness out of things.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Is that why there was such a horrible problem in
our last military conflict, and I don't know it's even
ongoing with assaults against women in the military.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Well the assaults against Are you talking about sexual assaults? Yeah, yeah,
sexual assult monetized Yeah. No, it's a huge it's a
huge issue, and I was kind of speaking about that
as well, because it's a huge issue in the military.
It's almost the issue in the military when it comes
to women, and there are no ways in which women

(01:57:27):
can seek any kind of justice oftentimes for these sorts
of incidents, because they report them to their supervisors, and
oftentimes the incidents involve their supervisors. But that isn't mentioned
in all of this. It's just mentioned as is this
group as no longer needed. The padel existed during the

(01:57:50):
last administration's recruitment and retention crisis, is what the Pentagon says. Now,
with female recruitment numbers soaring under President Trump and Pete
Hegseth's leadership, it is clear that this group is no
is not the reason women are joining the military. They

(01:58:11):
go on in the statement, The Pentagon added, we are
cleansing the Department of wokeness. The committee was established in
nineteen fifty one, making it one of the Defense Department's
oldest advisory bodies, and it's composed of civilian women and
men appointed by the Defense Secretary to advise on matters
and policies related to the recruitment, retention, employment, integrant, integration,

(01:58:34):
and well being of women in the military. So this
is a cultural overhaul of the military that's been going on,
as you know. They want to remove what they call
left leaning ideology from the military. And among the changes
imposed by hegseeth are grooming standards to be clean shaven

(01:58:55):
and neat in presentation, banning transgender Americans from serving in
the armed forces, tightening restrictions on media coverage, and eliminating diversity,
equity and inclusion initiatives, among others.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
So would this then be the MAGA army if you're
trying to weed out any others, people of color, people
that are trans, people that are gay, people that are women,
if you're trying to keep it you know the way
they want it, which is you all believe like us.

(01:59:28):
You look this, you know, you have no facial hair,
you look the same, You're you're all like Trump happy.
Then does it cease to become the American military fighting
for America. Are they instead fighting for Trump instead?

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Well, I mean, I don't know that that's an interesting
recharacterization of it, or characterization of it might be accurate.
I mean, i'd say that it's certainly true that the
diversity that has represented the military over the last twenty
years doesn't appear to be a priority anyway with this administration.
I think that's important. I don't mean to diminish it,

(02:00:07):
But I think the more provocative and ironic issue is
one that you first mentioned, which was that women in
the military have been preyed upon. And oddly, the guy
who runs a military pete hegsith one of the big
issues with him is that he was accused of sexual assault.

(02:00:28):
He paid a as you know, kind of a well,
he paid a woman who had accused him of sexual
assault to kind of go away. And this all came
out in his confirmation hearing, and then ultimately the Senate
rolled over and gave him the green light. Anyway, but
they don't they.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Don't care about women. They don't care about women at all.
But I worry that if you weed out the others,
if you weed out the woke, then you weed out
any voices of dissent, and what are you left with?

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
You left with an army that doesn't give you any trouble,
kim that's what you're left with. Yeah, get rid of
those dissenters. Let me look at some I got notification
that Hulu ads are going from seven ninety nine to
eleven ninety nine. Here's some news you can use from
teacher Laurie. Huge increase, fifty percent increase.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
Yeah, well, they jacked up the price at the right
at the moment where people would resubscribe after unsubscribing, and
now people are thinking, I know Jimmy's back, but do
I really want to pay extra? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
I would just note this, Teacher Laurie. I know you're
a teacher at all, but seven ninety nine to eleven
ninety nine is not fifty percent, So I don't know.
I mean, it's I'm with you on this, But am
I wrong? Maybe I'm wrong. Eight dollars to twelve dollars
is not fifty percent. But I take your point. I
don't mean get all that. I want people who are

(02:01:57):
listening to know I didn't say fifty percent. Dejitlauri said
fifty percent because I'm weak enough with numbers, but I
know it's not fifty percent, but that's just horrible. That's
a yeah. I mean, look, everything's getting more expensive. This
is the uh. The rapture, says Luis, is another evil
plot by the radical left. But like the Jewish space

(02:02:18):
laser and weather controlling machine, it will fall yours m
Vasilli from Marjorie Taylor Green. He writes that in yeah,
he signs at MTG. Yes, Yeah, I think the rapture
can cleanly be in the category of the space lasers. Yes.

(02:02:39):
Former FBI Director James Comey is expected to be indicted
in the Eastern District of Virginia in the coming days,
according to MSNBC, says a yaha, lying to Congress being
at least one charge. Here's the irony of that. Donald
Trump would not have won the last election, the one
that he won in twenty sixteen, the last administration that

(02:02:59):
the had Season one of the Trump administration, if it
weren't for James Comy. I think James Comy won that
election for him reopening the announcement that were reopening the
investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. That announcement I believe siphoned
off enough votes made enough people, not a little you know, tentative.

(02:03:20):
I mean, the election was decided by fifty eight thousand votes,
maybe fewer than them is forty eight thousand. So the
idea somehow that you then go on the jihad against
Comy is to me ironic. Louise says this, thanks for
a five dollars super chat for a dude who is
so critical of others and their use of the English language,

(02:03:41):
exception to quote be best Millennia. His command of English
sure does suck. Yes, oh hashtag tailand all I.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
Said, I said, Menifin commonly known as Thailand.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
All yeah, yeah. But my thing on that was, you know,
anybody could screw up those medicine names. I get it,
but that's the only thing you're there to talk about.
You're there having this announcement about one thing. It's a
seed of minafin. It's the only thing we're talking about.
It's not gonna be like a lot of stuff you're
talking about, just that one thing. You'd think you'd get

(02:04:20):
clear on the one thing you're going to be talking about.
So I was surprised for that reason. We're just like,
you know, he's reaching for something anybody could screw that up.

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
I said, yeah, but I think only commonly known as
pilot all and so.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
It was an odd thing to me from that standpoint.
Sarah Kay for a win, Yeah, big win, says Steve
six or seven. Sarah kenzie Or joins tomorrow. We're so
excited about that. Grocery prices are definitely higher, says Rick. Yes, yeah,
I mean there's no question about that. I think the
the inflation at the grocery stores where you're really noticing it,
and so bizarre that he was able to sell some

(02:04:56):
plan to to lower prices when there was just no
strategy there. He was just screaming from the podium. But
you know, enough of America bought it. Most in America
barely pay attention. It's a really you know, and now
that the NFL season has started, I don't even get
anybody's attention for anything. I mean, everybody's on draft kings,
you know what I mean. Join Ice says Yaha, arrest

(02:05:20):
your landscaper, right, I mean, that's what it's come down to,
isn't it? Sad? I laugh, But it's so sad. Tomorrow,
as I mentioned, the brilliant and wonderful Sarah kenzie Or joins,
we're so excited to have her, and also the brilliant
former federal prosecutor David Katz joins us. So we have

(02:05:42):
a lot to talk about the weaponizing of the DOJ
and more, and we'll see you all tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (02:05:48):
Chee Stevens for the Mark Johnson Show.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
BA share any portions of the show across Facebook, across
your social media, and don't forget to join Kim for
the after party. Thanks, everybody will tomorrow, Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (02:07:01):
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