Loyalty to Trump Wins…Despite Damning Ethics Reports, Trump Legal Lackey Gets Lifetime Appt 7/30/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am sorry to keep to the audience later, but
it's lovely that they still have that great enthusiasm for
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I'd forgotten that Tony is here today. Sorry about that.
Tony sent a bunch of stuff to Alba. I think

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you again, So if you want to check your magic
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The truth is that Kim is our stalwart Jim. She
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Love hearing to that news. Rothmand here today. Bottom of

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on that in the as I say, in the second hour.
But there's all sorts of stuff going on, so glad

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Speaker 2 (03:21):
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and Tony. Here's to one more trip around the sun.
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Happy birthday to Harry Magnet. I'm very impressed Harry Magnuan
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as well. We are because Harry is uh. I think
he is ass kissable today. That is largely the result
of his generous super chat.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
So happy birthday, Harry.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, the whole team, which is you? A happy birthday pal?
So uh. I did want to mention the uh. And
you know I think is Harry in Florida? I don't know.
I think Harry is in Florida. Last angry Manny for
five Mark must be back no on time start again. Yes,

(05:01):
it's true. I'm dealing with a few things. I almost,
to be perfectly honest, didn't make this show today. I
don't want to get into a big thing about it.
But there's a lot of pretty dark stuff going on,
sort of having to deal with it and so and
it just like when you think it can't get darker.
It does, so I am sorry to have started late,

(05:21):
but that's kind of in part what was going on
every day. It seems as though more dissenting voices are
silenced and courts are getting political. We are losing our
democracy bit by bit, says Vilma. I couldn't agree more.
And you know, I think very little of I'm not

(05:41):
an optimist kind of I think I'm something of a
realist and what's happening. I think very little of the
hopium that is associated with wait till the midterms and
all that's Please don't misunderstand me. I think we have
to concentrate on the midterms. We do have a system
here that we have to hope on some level we
can breathe life into and regain power and have some sensible,

(06:07):
competent people involved in government. That said, the infiltration of
all the various levers of power is almost complete. I mean,
you have the legal institutions now being permeated by this

(06:28):
Trumpian doctrine, and we'll get to Emil Beauvais. But I
completely agree with the general notion that the MAGA movement
has engulfed American government and the courts in a way
that makes it very, very scary. So I do want

(06:49):
to get the bevey thing, but I don't want to
get ahead of ourselves. I did want to mention this tsunami.
I mean, it's the tsunami that kind of got everybody's attention. Yep,
there was a huge quake, right, Kim. It was in Russia,
big boy.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
They say it's the largest quake that's been recorded in
quite some time. Magnitude eight point eight.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, six, biggest quake in history and recorded history. Of course,
when the Earth was first forming, there were some really
big quakes, some sers. Yeah, but I mean we're always
still forming, I guess is the point. And we always
think of ourselves as like living on a planet where
the cake is baked. That's not true. We are on

(07:28):
a planet, of course, where the baking continues. So anyway,
this is an eight point eight and the effects were profound.
There were tsunami waves that were predicted to hit Japan, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Washington,
Alaskz in that, right, Kim.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It is and Tony has some video of that. This
is Japan. You can see the waves coming in.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
This is the though. Those are pretty good sized.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, that's that's in Japan, and they were among the
first to feel that. Russia as well, there was some
new new kind of volcano. There's video that we'll see
in a moment. This, I think is Hawaii hallay Eva
Hawaii where you can see the water go out. Here,
it goes out and then it's going to come swishing
back in. Not as dramatic as they had thought. And

(08:22):
they had everyone evacuate and go up to a higher elevation,
and there was lots of traffic in Hawaii's people tried
to rush up the mountain, up the sides of volcanoes.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I saw the traffic in Hawaii was intense, man, it was.
It was like everybody was fleeing. It was really you know,
that's what got me thinking, isn't Albert in Hawaii as CB?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
He is in Hawaii, Yes he is.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Did we reach out to him at all? No?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Why.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
The good thing is no one in Hawaii was hurt,
so you know we know he's all right.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
All right, I've forgotten he was in Hawaii, CBD. We
should have reached out to him.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I don't know they had in Russia. One hundred and
twenty five after shocks while off the coast, I should say,
of Russia, and at least some of them were greater
than six point zero, which to me, that's the main event,
not an aftershock. Yeah, there's some of the shaking in Russia.
You see some of the maps of where the earthquake

(09:22):
hit and where the tsunamis were seen. Even in here
in California, we got a little surge up in Crescent City,
which is you know that they say it has to
do with the shape and the positioning of some of
these harbors. Crescent City, there's a Santa Cruz yacht harbor.
Those are two of the ones that when there's a tsunami,
the waves always hit it at such a point that

(09:42):
it clanks all the boats together and does some damage.
I think they said about four foot surge was felt
in Crescent City today or overnight, I should say so,
but everybody's all right.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah. The interesting thing about Crescent City, and you're right
about the northern part of the state having a coastline
that is more favorable toward Frankly, and favorable is an
odd word to use, because you know it's it's it's
favorable from the standpoint of exposure to some of these tsunamis.
It's like a bad favorability. Uh so there, I think

(10:16):
you're you're right. The even in this tsunami event, the
expected damaging surf, if you want to think of it
that way, was toward the north and so, but the
word is that nothing really materialized. Of well, in.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Crescent City, they had a four foot surge and the
harbor master said one dock suffered major structural failure. The
separated from the pilings caused electrical sparking. The dock was
designed to protect the inner harbor by dissipating the energy
of the strongest tsunami waves, so they say it's sacrificial role.

(10:53):
In overall design appears to a function just like it
was intended. So that's to be expected. But nobody hurt.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oprah Winfrey, responding after viral social media posts, claimed she
kept her private road closed off despite the tsunami warnings.
In Hawaii, other roads gridlock with people fleeing the coast
to retire ground. As we mentioned, she says, as soon
as we heard the tsunami warnings, we contacted local law
enforcement and FEMA to ensure that the road was open,

(11:23):
and he reports otherwise or false. So Oprah trying to
clear that up. Ken, Yeah, it's not good when the
big Oh, the other big oh has to you know,
has to clear things up later. There's a lot of
people who want to smear Oprah and I'm.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Who is having that conversation.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, it's out there, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
There's video of sea lions hopping into the ocean. I
guess afraid of the shaking going on. When the shaking begins,
they all start leaping into the sea. Yeah, here it is.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
There they go.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
They don't want to have anything to do with the
land at this point.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And that's in Russia. So you're what you're seeing is
this is along the coast of Russia. That's why they
feel that's shaking. Yeah. Well interesting, I mean interesting and
a reminder you know, everything is temporary, sadly. But so, Kim,

(12:28):
I first want to thank you for shouldering on here,
for soldiering on and shouldering on, for shouldering responsibility and
soldiering on. And I wonder if you can tell me
what the highlights about anything that happened here on the
show while I was away that I should know about.
Michael Shore also brilliant yesterday. I loved the conversation with

(12:49):
David K. Johnston and I thought it was a really
good show yesterday. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, Michael Shore was awesome and David K. Johnson is
always great. So yeah, we were all right where you
were gone. We missed you and we're glad you're back.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
But you know what what.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Kept on rolling while you were away is Epstein Trump stories.
And when Trump was on the way home from Scotland,
he was asked about comments that he made in Scotland
regarding the pilfering of staff by Epstein from mar A Lago,
and Tony has audio with kind of a picture and captions.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'm just curious. I mentioned that today Epstein has
a certain reputation. Obviously, it is curious.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Were some of the workers that were taken from you
were some of.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Them young women?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Some of them were some of them young women.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Well, I don't want to say, but everyone knows the
people that were taken and it was the concept of
taking people that work for me is man. But that
story has been pretty well out there and the answer
is yes, it worked.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah in the.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Spot in the Yeah, there's people that work in the
SPA A great spot one of the.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Best spas in the world at mar.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
A Lanka, and people were taken out of the spa
hired by him, in other words, gone, and other people
would come and complain, this guy is taking people from
the spot. I didn't know that. And then when I
heard about it, I told him, I said, listen, we
don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa
or not spa, I don't want him taking people.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And he was fine.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
And then not too long after that he did it again,
and I said, out of here.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Didn't stolen you know, persons that include Virginia.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Jeffrey, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I think she worked in the SPA.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think so. I think that was one of the
people and he stole her.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
And by the way, she had no complaints about us
as you do, so.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Stolen and groomed and taken, by her own account to
work with the Epstein folks in the sex trade.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's hard for me to tell whether or not Trump
had a firsthand knowledge of this because of an association
or a connection to this woman, the underage girl who's
working in the spa, or if he you know, sort

(15:39):
of his real decision conforms with what he says which
is that I heard about the fact that he had
poached this woman, you know, poached our staff. I tend
to think if he had taken a landscaper, if he
had taken a bartender, if he had taken any number
of the people who are associated with the support staff

(16:00):
at mar Lago, the reaction might be different than a
real sharp rift between the two men, if that really
was what it was about over this woman and maybe
one other woman. These guys are about women. They're about girls,
They're about young girls, about having sex, they're about running
around the world, they're about Playboy international swinging times. I mean,

(16:28):
it sounds weird. I don't mean to sound prudish, but
come on, man, I mean that's really what's going on here.
I don't know how you want to you know, these
are two guys you just want to get laid, Okay,
I can put it that way, all right. They're two
rich guys who have set up a world that is
all about sex. And so when we talk about women
who worked in the spa and these massages, what we're

(16:50):
really talking about is a ramp up to the kind
of forced sex that was involved with Epstein and involved
with a network that involved human trafficking worldwide, and Epstein's,
in my judgment, compromat. The stuff he had on so

(17:13):
many of these powerful people was one thing. But the
fact that he was enabling this world for all of
those powerful people, that was another thing. He was a
valued asset to people because he could spirit you off
to his island, have you spend the weekend at his

(17:34):
place in New York, or just come by for a massage.
But it was all the dirtiest, lowest, illegal, immoral crap.
So when we get to mar Lago, when he's poaching
somebody from the SPA, if Trump is that angry about
it that he doesn't want anything more to do with Epstein,

(17:56):
I think it suggests some kind of personal relationship that
he might have had with this girl. He's at least
aware of her. When he says I was told that
he took this girl from the SPA. I kind of
feel as though that doesn't pass the smell test, because
what you normally say is, ugh, Jeffrey, I'll talk to him.

(18:17):
I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. You know, if
you just didn't really know who she was or what
the deal was. I mean, I think there's way more
of an involvement here with Donald Trump and these women
than he's letting on. And that doesn't mean, I want
to be clear and I'm no Trump then, but it
doesn't mean that he was involved in this operation or

(18:40):
even in sexual improprieties with underage people. It doesn't necessarily
mean that. But in other words, they could be good
friends and as I say, international playboys or however they
see themselves party boys without being on the Trump side
associated with what Epstein really was into, which was underage women.

(19:04):
But I have to say that when you look at
the videos of these model searches and these kind of
beauty contest model searches where it's just Epstein and Trump
assessing the potential of these various models, and they come
from top modeling agencies some of them, you start to realize, Oh,

(19:27):
but a lot of these women who are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
they are they're looking like women, like women in a girls. Yeah,
in a catalog. But there's one in my.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
House, sixteen year old girl. She is not mentally ready
for anything big, right, you know, she's still growing, she's
still a kid.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Eric Inlays says it better than I did. Inlay says,
why would a millionaire, which is a again the owner
of mar Lago care about a minimum wage employer unless
he had an interest in them. Low wage employees go
to new jobs every day. I think that's exactly right
in Lays.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
So what struck me is that he seemed more concerned
about the poaching of employees than he did about what
happened to her.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Oh, there's no question about that. He doesn't, he doesn't,
you know, he just again treats it all. Look, you're
dealing with a guy who doesn't want to say too
much about it and talk about how horrible it is
because he knows he's involved in it. So he doesn't
really want to spend a long time talking about Epstein's
despicable life and the horror that he wrought on so

(20:40):
many others. Because Trump was part of it. His name's
all over the files. I mean, you've heard the story,
and I'll just repeat it. A thousand FBI agents called
off of what they were doing to handle the Epstein
case right now, looking for Trump's name. Now, I don't know,
that seems extraordinary to me if they they pulled a

(21:00):
thousand FBI agents saw what they were doing. But maybe
it's true. I mean, I've read it in multiple reports.
But anyway, they're looking for anything related to Trump. They're
culling this material, I believe, so that Trump's name will
be deleted, removed, and otherwise excised to make sure that

(21:20):
when the time comes and they're forced to release something,
not the grand jury testimony, that's the most ridiculous. As
you know, the grand jury testimony is supposed to remain sealed.
But even if they became unsealed, it pertained to such
a small amount of what the Epstein case is about.
There were only two witnesses. Did you see the story

(21:41):
It just broke this morning. Only two witnesses were involved
in the grand jury testimony. Only two. I mean, this
is a you know, a decade's long operation that involves
all kinds of victims and all sorts of testimony, and
the investigation is expansive. If you're saying, oh, well, you

(22:02):
know what we are thinking about releasing the two bits
of testimony in the grand jury deliberation, what that's nothing.
That's and by the way, it's being played like nothing.
Magnation isn't taking that either. From what I understand, they
want to see more so what they're doing is, in

(22:26):
my judgment, they're prepping the file for release to not
just redact, but I'm suggesting alter the file in some
way such that it just Trump's footprints aren't all over
it as they are already. I mean, we know his
name is all over it. Why is he so worried

(22:46):
about it. It's crazy that Trump was on such a
jihad prior to winning the election transparency. We're going to
release this, the Epstein files, to be fair. He was
always like, well, I don't want to, you know, of
course I'll release them. I don't want to damage any
reputations and hurt any people. I mean add that you

(23:11):
would double clutch on that. Luis says Trump is an
upstanding lord and savior. He would never do anything inappropriate
with a minor. Oh this is love. Absolutely No one
meaning no one's saying that exactly. I mean, we all
know that Trump is you know, yeah, he is what

(23:34):
he is. But I mean, it's all of a kind
right with Epstein. So the only thing I would say
about Epstein, because I know it does continue to percolate,
is that as Trump runs from it, he can I think,
move various other things into the headlines to bump it
out for a time, but it will lurk there and

(23:56):
come back and it will be potentially damaging to him.
Rumor is he's really freaked out about the Epstein financial records. Why, Yeah,
I guess they say in the investigation, if you follow
the Epstein money, it does get very interesting and mysterious.

(24:18):
In other words, there's suggestions that there's money laundering there.
There's suggestions that there is a lot of money that
traces back to what we think of the Eastern Bloc
countries and Russia. So these are all women of huge
money transfers that might have been part of another network
of human trafficking that was sort of essentially a subsidiary

(24:40):
or an associated partner of Jeffrey Epstein. Trump also doesn't
want anyone to look into all the money. The one
back and forth between him and the Crooked Bank says
jerk is jerk. Yeah, I don't know about that. I
mean it's Trump's relationship with banks has been chronicled. I

(25:00):
thought it was really well chronicled in I'm trying to
think of the name of the book. It was a
Deutsche Bank discussion about how Deutsche Bank essentially funded the
Trump lifestyle, even as Trump was defaulting on loans prior
to that. It was because the Trump people had essentially

(25:20):
charmed a part of the banking arm of Deutsche Bank
that was involved in a lot of loans to Donald Trump.
So the actual banking those involved in Deutsche Banking controlling
the banking business when they found out that the private
part of Deutsche Bank sort of you want to think

(25:41):
of the high net worth servicing part of Deutsche Bank
had dark Towers. Thank you God, that's exactly it was
that Tony, Tony your magic my friend. Yeah, anyway, dark
towers tell he talks all about that. So so when
you when it gets to banking, I don't know what

(26:02):
the latest is, but there's definitely a lot in the
banking world. There was already a problem for Donald Trump.
The problem we hear is that it involves sex.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Is that a movie or a book?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
It's a book, okay, And the the sex with minors
part is just makes this it vaults up to another level.
I mean, this isn't just a worldwide prostitution ring. It
is that, but it involves underage boys and girls, so
that takes it to another place. So that is a

(26:35):
little on that. It's kind of late because we started late.
I did want to mention that Jerome Powell, i think,
announced that they are keeping interest rates where they are,
which I'm sure you'll have in your news. But the
future of Powell, as you know, a tense one, but
in the conversation around him, a tense one. But he

(26:57):
seems to be pretty firmly in place and handling the
FED in a firm way. Smash the like button, if
you would. That's a little bit of an overview of
the iron rod. Yeah, it's a little bit of a
view of the Epstein thing and overview, and I think
those are some of the particulars. I do think it's

(27:18):
worth remarking on because its political relevance. You know, this
is more than just a salacious story. This is a
salacious story that has engulfed a presidency and has threatened
support from MAGA nation and from his broad i'd say,
much broader than given credit for area of support politically

(27:41):
in America. And so for that reason, I think it's
worth talking about. But there is other stuff going on there.
Redistricting in Texas, as I mentioned to you before, there
is a major announcement from the Brits on Palestinian state.
We'll get to all of that right now with the
Great John Rothman in a moment. I know it, I know.

(28:04):
Is there anything I need to get to before John?
Or can I get right to John? I'm guessing I
can get right to John. No one has said anything,
so without any further delay. This man is a great
political historian, presidential historian, author, lecturer, or former colleague from
kg O Radio. He's the Great John Roffman, professor. Modest introductions.

(28:27):
I vow to you, sir. You're a very you're a
very very learned fellow, and I ask you to first
way in on something that I know you know a
little something about, and that's the Middle East. You've seen
the announcement by the British that they want to recognize

(28:49):
a Palestinian state. If there's certain well you can tell
me what they are. There's certain provisos here that that
they are I think designed those provajos to put pressure
on the Israelis to change policy in Gaza.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, you have to back up for a minute and
ask what Palestinian state. There is no formal Palestinian state.
There are no boundaries or borders to a Palestinian state.
Do you recognize Ramas or do you recognize the Palestinian
authority which is one of the most corrupt operations around,
which hasn't had an election since two thousand and five.

(29:28):
There are a number of interesting developments, but I will
tell you the most significant development is that the Arab League,
all twenty two nations have voted that Hamas should be disarmed,
that Ramas should be put in the position of releasing
all hostages, and in return, the Arab League is endorsing

(29:51):
a two state solution, meaning recognition of Israel's right to exist.
It doesn't alleviate the tragedy of Gaza. It doesn't alleviate
any of that. You will note the New York Times
on the front page today had a printer atraction. They'd
had a picture of a kid who they said was
a victim of starvation, who in fact has other physical problems,
and they had to admit in the report on the

(30:13):
front page of the New York Times that they got
it wrong. That doesn't obviate the question of whether or
not there are real issues in terms of starvation and
malnutrition and all the rest. So these are all issues
that are now being addressed. I think it's too little,
too late. People ask me who do you blame. I
don't blame anybody. I think there's the world could have

(30:35):
and should have reacted much more quickly to reassure the
Israelis about their security, to get the hostages out, and
to condemn Hamas. Finally, that seems to be happening, but
it doesn't excuse the fact that we still have the
same conundrum. And the conundrum is can you have a
solution it guarantees Palestinian rights, but not at the expense

(30:57):
of Israel's right to exist.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
To mean, the bottom line, I think you focus on
something that did strike me too, which is you can
recognize here the Palestinians right to a state or to
safety in their own homeland. I just don't know what
that looks like. And as you say that real estate

(31:20):
isn't there right now, at least identified in any sort
of discernible way that's been recognized by the rest of
the world. It's a very, very tough, unforgiving situation in Gaza.
It's not supported by a lot of the Israeli population.
It's interesting to me, and just in reading about how
net and Yahoo has pursued this policy, and he is

(31:44):
demanding the return of the remaining hostages and the elimination
of Hamas. And he goes through Gaza in this unrelenting
fashion that is not supported by a lot of Israelis
on the street. Oh, of course not.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And you know, people ask me about if you criticize Israel,
what does that mean. It means you're doing what they
do in Israel. If you read the Israeli press as
I do, there is absolute condemnation of the Natanyahu government
on a whole broad range of issues. But I would
point out to you the first time we have had
a real condemnation of Kamas by the Arab world itself

(32:21):
is now what took them so long?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
What took so long for.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
The Arab league to say, release the hostages? So my
hope is that out of all of this will come
a more positive moment for the people of Gaza. It
is a tragic situation. I don't know any way to
ameliorate it, to be very honest with you, Because between
the struggle between Hamas for its decisions and the other

(32:46):
the Israelis seeking their own security, one can feel great
sympathy for the Palestinian people but these are wounds that
have been inflicted by too many mistakes on all sides.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Well, the deep wounds of history can't be denied in
that region for sure. I want to come back to
this country. I want to come back to the midterms.
Everybody talks about the midterms. The midterms are going to
be great. Just wait for the midterms. We're going to
take them. This will be bad for the midterms. Texas

(33:18):
Republicans unveiling a new congressional map for the midterms that
would provide their party in Texas with five new red
leaning districts, a plan that, if enacted, could provide a
boost to the parties that tries to cling to control
of the House. They'll redraw would significantly benefit Republicans by

(33:39):
making districts held by Democrats like Henry Quaar and Vicente Gonzalez,
who both represent heavily Latino areas of the Rio Grande Valley.
It would make those areas redder and make some Democratic
controlled districts even bluer in an attempt to create GOP
leaning districts elsewhere. The proposed map would also put another

(34:00):
of Republican and Democrat incumbents in the same district it
only sets up one primary matchup between Democratic Representatives Greg
Kassar and Lloyd Doggett, avoids any messygop primary fights between incumbents,
So six dig districts wouldn't have an incumbent under this

(34:20):
new map, according to this data released by the Texas Legislature.
So that leave both parties with a rushed recruitment process
as they try to get something hustled together for the midterms.
But that would be a huge opportunity for the Republicans
to retain control of the House.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
John, Yeah, let's back up and point out redistricting takes
place every ten years. This is not on the ten
year cycle. What the Republicans would be doing in Texas
is unprecedented. I do want to respond by saying that
Gavin Newsom is saying, if you can do it there,
we can do it in California. And if, in fact,
the congressional elections are reduced to this kind of redrawing

(35:00):
of maps, we're in big trouble in terms of democracy.
There would also be challenges to whether or not it
is constitutional for the Texas Republicans to ram something like
this through, and that leads us back to the Supreme Court.
I would point out to a lead story today in
the MAGA world is that the Republicans are being prepared

(35:22):
to replace members of the Supreme Court as they pass away,
the idea being to solidify the conservative or if it's
not even conservative, the Trump based on the Court. It
is a profoundly disturbing moment in history. As for the
redistrict thing, You're right, once upon a time there could

(35:42):
be real swings in Congress, in the House, because we've
seen it in forty six, we saw it in the
seventy eight, We've seen it repeatedly. But the simple truth
is that those kinds of competitive days seem and I
want to run the word seem to be over. So

(36:02):
this redistricting story is should be on the front page
of every newspaper and we'll see how it all works out.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Are you optimistic about the midterms? You know you oftentimes yes,
I'm always optimistic, as you know, it's our point of difference.
But I would I would suggest you call you delusionally optimistic.
Thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm delighted to be delusional and optimistic at the same time. No,
I believe there will be a reaction. You're already seeing
what the Republicans have done with their so called great, big,
beautiful bill, which is what it's now called. It's neither
beautiful or well anyway. But the real cuts don't take
place until after the midterms. That's what you call real

(36:49):
courage by the Republicans. And of course, when you take
a look at what's happening now with Medicaid and the
number of people who will be removed from the Medicaid rolls,
it's absolutely horrific and will have a huge impact on
health services. So but again, you're going to talk about
the e p A in the next hour. But those

(37:13):
of you who've listened to leeze Eldon and what he
has said, he's the director of the e p A,
they're going to gut the most basic elements of protecting
our environment. And I talked to an expert just the
other day because I was very curious about this will
leave a lasting effect. He said, of course, you can
always with the Democratic administration reverse things, but yes, there

(37:37):
is an impact, There is an effect right now.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Well, you cannot reverse the kind of damage that they're
talking about. I can't. Well, I mean, because we're talking
about greenhouse gases, the carbon monoxide discharges goes into your lungs.
All of these industrial pollutants into your lungs produce cancers.
You can't reverse that. That that in other words, once
you've gotten cancer, once you've breathed in these carcinogens, they

(38:03):
get deep down into your lungs. You're living with it.
And some democratic administration isn't going to clean your lungs out.
And here's what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
What they will do is reverse what the Trump administration
is doing. What they're doing is being done by executive legislatively.
An executive order is not legislative action. It's an executive order.
Can be reversed, and I believe that it'll take another
few years. And let me point out to you that JD.
Vance seems to be now the leading candidate to replace

(38:33):
Donald Trump, and that if something happens to Donald Trump, JD.
Vance would become president, and immediately that changes the whole equation.
Let me point out another difference. We're watching the disaster
in Ukraine unfold, and it is a disaster. It should
be on the front page of every newspaper, but it
isn't because there's too much else to deal with, including

(38:54):
the Epstein case. But the simple truth is that Jdvance
opposes a to Ukraine, and if he becomes president, the
whole American policy may shift. So these are all things.
I heard an interesting speculation who would JD. Vance take
as his vice president if he were to succeed to
the presidency under the twenty fifth Amendment to nominate? And

(39:17):
the answer is Donald Trump Junior. That's the one who
promoted him, pushed him, and would make a great idea
of continuity. So we're talking here about major issues that
we will confront without any doubt.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You know, we pay more for medicine in America than
any other country in the world, yep. And one of
the things that has often railed against You'll remember when
Donald Trump and mag Nation, you guys all thought yourselves
the outsiders you were screaming about we're going to you know,

(39:54):
it was a real populist movement. Donald Trump oddly positioned him, say,
as an outsider, even though we'd already had one four
year period with him. And Big Pharma is actually the
beneficiary of so much when it comes to American protectionism
around drug prices. Even Big Pharma is pushing back against

(40:18):
the tariffs that have been imposed on a lot of
medications from Europe. A fifteen percent tariff is being levied
on medicines from Europe, medications that are desperately needed by Americans,
that are regularly used by Americans, desperately needed or not.
And so you end up with prices that are already,

(40:41):
as I've mentioned, higher than anyplace else on Earth. It's
even higher. Yeah, this is the new These are the
new Trump tariffs.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Right, And let me explain to you. And I know
that I've said it before, and I don't want to
be redundant, but I do want you to understand a
president can't set tariffs. Theoretically, Kyle's illegal is the only
one who can do it. And what has happened is
that the Republicans in Congress have dealt a terrible blow
to the balance of powers by abdicating their responsibility on

(41:12):
this terriff question. One thing is clear. People ask me,
what will the major issues be in the in the midterms.
The abdication of Congress of its responsibility on so many levels.
But this is an ongoing disaster for the balance of powers.
You know, our colleague grond Owens used to argue that
he would rather see a divided government, and I always

(41:33):
told him he was wrong. It was better to have
a single party in power. That's how you got the
New Deal. Let's say you got wrong with Reagan's reforms.
But I have to tell you I owe Ron an apology,
because clearly divided government would have been much better. Look
at the approval of a judge, a man who is
completely we were going to get to that.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I know, why don't you open it up with that?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
But by a vote of fifty to forty nine, with
the Democrats absolutely opposing any action on this level. I'm sorry,
I'm wrong it was fifty to forty eight. But this
is a lifetime appointment. Beauvet is a man who whose
record is so reprehensible that his own colleague opposed his nomination,

(42:18):
and yet the Republicans are caving to this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
You have some sound on that. I know this is
this is a Meel beauveat just to you know, fill
in the gaps. This is a Meil Beauve who was
Trump's personal attorney. Yet again, another personal attorney of Trump's
defense attorney, rising to now the position of a seat
on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. That's a right time. Yeah,

(42:41):
it's a remarkable thing. And here's a little sound on
I believe democratic reaction. This is Chuck Schumer right now. Okay, Yes,
confirmed last night a press conference around confromation.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
I think it was I think I said it was
one of the low points, not only in this Congress,
but in the history of Congress. To put a man
like this in such an important position as a circuit
court judge. H's a disgrace. He doesn't belong there. And
a Republican, he only had one qualification. He do whatever
Trump wants. That's a horrible qualification for a judge.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yes, I mean he's right. I mean that's exactly what
Bouvet is about. I mean, Whistlebower reports for coming out
of the woodwork. There were three of them, saying that
he recommended that the administration ignore court orders that would
disrupt Trump's aggressive immigration agenda. And this was the reaction

(43:45):
that was associated with that, as Bow's reaction was associated
with the pushback, the very strong legal pushback early on
in the immigration aggressive immigration policy of the new administration. So,
in other words, when they were deporting people, putting them
on planes, sending them away, Bouvet's view was and he
literally said this according to the whistleblower report, when the

(44:07):
court tells you, tell me, tell him, you know, just
you know f the court is what he said f
the order. This is according to these whistleblower reports. So
I mean the you know, he's right when Schumer says
loyalty to Trump is the bottom line, that really is
all that you need display to get these appointments. Absolutely,

(44:32):
and this is another disaster.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Who is president matters And I kept saying that. I've
said it in every talk I've given on presidential elections
for years and years and years, and it's true. The
fact that Beauvet is now a confirmed to a federal
judgeship given his record is mind boggling.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
They have a video, apparently, John, we have video of
the Democrats walking out of this confirmation and this confirmation
vote go ahead, Tony.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Here it is, sir, with all appeals to your decency,
with all appeals to your integrity, with all appeals to
pass jurisdiction and past precedent, why are you doing this?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
This is outrageous. This is.

Speaker 8 (45:21):
To violate your own rules without going by the mandates
with the parliamentary This is unbelievable. There's a way to
do this. If you want to force this through, if
you want to ram this through, there's a way to
do it in accordance to the rules as spelled out
by the parliamentarian. It is simple, It is clear, there's

(45:44):
a pathway to achieve what you're trying to achieve.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
But sir, this lacks decency. It lacks decorum.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
It shows that you do not want to simply hear
from your colleagues.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Talk. What he I'm sorry, what he's talking about is
the fact that they rushed this vote through. They didn't
give the whistleblowers time to testify, to offer any sort
of official pushback. It was really rammed through in a
big hurry, isn't that That's basically what he's saying there

(46:20):
when he says, you're you know, why are you doing?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's correct and when you take a look at the
vote in the United States Center, I mean, we have
another comment. I know the recording of Corey Booker speaking,
but do you understand that there were judges who are
Democrats and Republicans who said this guy doesn't belong on
the bench, and unfortunately the Republicans are having their way

(46:42):
that will be the come up once, I believe Mark,
in the mid term elections, if the Democrats make the
right case.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I see these things coming together. I won't get into
a big back and forth with you on this now.
I know that these appointments are a mess. They are
in all the ways we've talked about, corrupted by blind
loyalty without real competence. You have people at the highest
levels of government who have no real competence. You mentioned

(47:12):
Lee Zelden. He is a hard right former legislator who
is just there to dismantle the EPA. Everyone who is
in a position of power in Washington is either there
to dismantle the agency or because of loyalty to Trump
see Gabbard, see Hegseeth. And their competence is not in

(47:35):
the building because they don't have any when it comes
to dealing with that which they're supposed to administer. So
I put all of this in a category of something
that Americans don't really follow so closely. John, I hate
to say it. I was just talking to a very
smart guy the other night over dinner and he said this,

(47:56):
and I thought it was insightful. Excuse me, had a
coffer sing. He said you know what I like about Trump?
He said, I like that. He said he was going
to do things, and then he did him he actually
gets things done, and I thought, and then I started
to argue with him over the stuff that he was

(48:17):
actually doing. I mean, you know, the the you know,
he's he's thrown the law out and he's just running
roughshod over the American systems. But his view was, well,
if that's what you have to do to get stuff done,
then I guess he saw that he could do it.
That's what a dictator does, right, And that's what made

(48:37):
me think. It made me realize that people are attracted
to these strong leaders. Sometimes, these strong men, they achieve
a level of obedience, they achieve a level of momentum
around their cult of personality. And I think that's what

(48:59):
Trump is had, and it leaves them in a position
of support from people, some of whom are very well
educated but just don't follow things day to day.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
It's astounding. I just want to say one thing about
the White House. I have a White House Guide here,
signed by three American presidents and seven first Ladies. I
love the White House Guide that originally was composed by
Jackie Kennedy. Two things have happened. Number One, the Kennedy
Rose Garden, the Jacqueline Kennedy Rose Garden has been cemented over.

(49:31):
He's going to build some sort of patio like he
has at mar A Lago. And the second thing is
they're talking about, and this is unbelievable, talking about renaming
the Kennedy Center the Trump Center and indeed one of
the major theaters in the complex to be named after
Milania Trump. I mean, one is absolutely dumbfounded. The Kennedy

(49:52):
family issued a statement, a Maria Shriver actually wrote the statement,
expressing their absolute horror at this. I'm going to go
even further. It is a revision of history. And when
the history of this administration is written, not only will
it be based on corruption, but it will be based
on this incredible response. So I'm glad we've raised all

(50:17):
of these issues, and there's so many more which.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Could be talked about.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
But that's also part of the game plan. Hits so
much of this stuff and then you can't really focus.
It's too much to absorb.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
But yeah, what you're right, I mean, it's the it's
it's it's its own tsunami of crazy and incompetence and
corruption and a policy that is absolutely serving only one
part of America and those that's the wealthy classlass. I
will mention that the Kennedy Center, and I smiled, even

(50:54):
though it is crazy, the Kennedy Center renaming is something
that Trump, I'm sure would love. I mean, he loves
to see his name on everything. But and that's just
not me being anti Trump. I mean it's true. I mean,
he's just it's it's the thing with him. But the
Kennedy Center renaming comes from the desire to kiss his butt.

(51:20):
It's what's happening to suck up to the president, isn't it, John.
I mean, well, these are Republicans that suggestion, these are
Republicans that are proposing it. But exactly all I can
tell you is when the history of this administration is written,
and I believe this with all my heart, we will
have never had a more corrupt.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Presidency in American history. I think it is unprecedented. And
the president of the United States doing these kinds of
things makes it just incredible. What bothers me is that
his base doesn't see it. By the way, you know
what they're doing now, they're having a hearing the House
Republicans on Joe Biden's men mental competency during his term

(52:03):
as president. And I understand you have questions about it.
Just read Jake Tapper's book, which is a full expose
of the fact that Joe Biden wasn't necessarily up to it.
But I can tell you this is such a deflection,
such a distraction. We have had presidents who may not
have been at their full best Woodrow Wilson after his

(52:24):
stroke in nineteen nineteen, most assuredly Franklin Rooseveld in nineteen
forty four and forty five. We have seen presidents who
simply lost it. But to then make this a major
political issue and distraction in the midst of all the
crisis taking place, I just find it incomprehensible and very disturbing.

(52:49):
And I won't say it shatters my faith in the
American political system, but I will say it goes a
long way to making me wonder about what the founders
would think if they were alive today.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You're going to be last to the party, but everybody's
joining my party, which is the questioning the American political systems.
Not because of the systems. The systems actually brilliantly placed
and brilliantly reformed along the way and in need of
more reform. But because of the people. Systems are people.
I've said it before, and the people involved in our

(53:19):
system now, the people who occupy the heads of many
of these systems. Within the overall system, I'm talking about
agencies of government. They are corrupt. And you've said it.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Talk about Pam Bondy, Talk about Pam Bondy, talk about
Don Bongino, talk about Cash Batal, talk about and I
hate to say it, leez Elvin, who once was a
more moderate Republican. This is astounding and I'm glad we're
able to touch on it. And when we replay the
tape of this broadcast ten years from now, people will,

(53:55):
I believe, see the evidence and the truth of what
you and I are saying. I do believe that in
the end we will wake up and the system will
correct itself. But the damage being done in the meantime
is appalling.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Well, that's just very well put, and sadly it's a
summary of where we are. You know, these judge ships
I think represent maybe the last bulwark against the sort
of complete control that Trump has taken. Dictatorial control. I
suggest that the dictatorial control is almost complete, and it

(54:34):
was given to him by, as you suggested, a Congress
that had control, for example, over the tariffs. They could
have easily said, look, we love you, but we know
the tariffs have to come through us. That's an important
part of what we do. They didn't. They've given him
total control. So I feel as though you've found in
this moment in America a party that has surrendered completely

(54:55):
to this guy, exactly. And so the only outstanding, shall
we say again bowerg or barrier to his complete takeover
is the courts. And now you've seen the courts succumb.

(55:16):
You've seen the courts succumb in ways that we saw
with Emil Beauvet and his.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Nomination that goes right along with the Congress. If Joe
Biden had made this nomination, the Republicans would have been
absolutely up in arms.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Well, it's confirmation had to go through Congress, So you're
exactly right about that. But the fact that they kept
out the whistleblowers, they kept out and rushed through this
entire process, that's what angered the Democrats. That just speaks
to the way in which they are completely at the
Beck and call of this guy, Donald Trump. And the
last thing I'll say, if I can, I always feel

(55:52):
like that's something that you say. The last thing I'll say.
But the last thing I'll say is the way that
they wanted to bury the Epstein Congress station that he
would adjourn Congress, Mike Johnson Maga, Mike would adjourn Congress
to avoid a vote on the release of the Epstein files.
That tells you how completely in the control of Donald

(56:15):
Trump Congress is. They adjourned the goddamn Congress because they're
worried about the damage reputationally to the President of the
United States, so they don't even want to vote on
the release of the file.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Just imagine what we'll be talking about in September when
Congress reconvenes.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Right, It'll be the first thing up, won't it. Yeah, Yes,
I hope. So, John, we covered a lot, as we
always do with you, so grateful for your time. You
can hear John daily. He does his show every day.
When do you do it? You do it first thing
in the morning or in the morning.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
And let me point out, I am leaving you for
three weeks.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I know I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I leave on Friday, and I will not be doing
my podcast, nor will I be interacting in any way,
and I want to apologize publicly to everyone.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
You can blame my wife, she insists.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
We go on this vacation and being the dutiful husband
that I am, I am going to go along.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Well, I imagine I've issued a decree. I want you
to know.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
This is an absolute, ironclad decree that no news is
to transpire during the three weeks that I'm away.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
That is quite them. That is quite. That is quite
the decree. Well, we'll look forward to your return, so
you will not you're around the polog or with John Rothman,
will not be on the air during the time that
you're away.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
That is, I have some pre recorded stuff for the
Voice of San Francisco, which is easy to do. It's
interviews and so forth, and many of you who live
in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
No, we have a.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Major recall campaign going on in the Sunset District the
supervisor Joel I Andnguardio. That vote is September sixteenth, So
we've done a number of precorded segments on that. But no,
I regret to say that there will be a deafening silence,
and my poor wife is now going to have to
listen to my comments exclusively.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So you are going to be back. What date, sir
we get back?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I think on August twenty second.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
All right, so we'll see you at the end of August.
He is the great John Rothman. Wish him well, bon
voyage and lots of love, my friend Thomson. That's our
visit with the Professor John Rothman covered a lot of stuff, Kim.
I wanted and I'm going to during if you can
get some news. And I still wanted to get a

(58:41):
little palate cleanser for you, a way that you can
take in a little content that isn't all dark and hopeless.
I want to be hopeful, Kim. I want to be
hopeful so nice. I want to be the person who
offers love and light. It's hard to an harder, Kim.

(59:05):
I'll be honest with you. I'm challenged, but I will
offer a little extra something in the next few minutes.
But first I'd like to get some news from you.
Can I you can, you may, and then we will rejoin.
I'll have a palot clench er. I still have Belinda
Weymouth and I'll handle any comments who I feel like,

(59:28):
I don't know, it may just be my feeling today,
but I just don't want to leave anything. I will
do this right now, be aware, says, Notice how Trump
is all about putting judges and prosecutors in the New
Jersey area federal criminal justice system. That's where you should
be looking for his skeletons where he shows insecurity. That
is a brilliant comment, and it's so right on. Trump

(59:50):
is very concerned about just that. Yeah, prosecutors in the
New Jersey area very interesting.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Doesn't it make you want to dig into what's going
on there? Like what's happening with that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It really is clever. Thank you, BA. I think that's
a really great point. All right, smash the button like
a boss of you what it helps us in the
YouTube universe when you get the thumbs up, It helps
buoy the show and get to the show to people
who otherwise don't know the show is there. So tomorrow
David Katz joins us, and we'll talk about this Beauvet situation.

(01:00:25):
It's an abomination, of course, and it is the beginning,
is what I was saying before. But just to put
a fine point on it, it's the coring out of
the last restriction on a dictatorial regime. It is absolutely

(01:00:45):
the most relevant thing going on right now in America,
the total revamping of the American judicial system to conform
with the agenda of Donald Trump, which is we've seen
it play out with immigration, We've seen it play out
with the control of blue states and blue cities. But

(01:01:07):
it's also related to whatever he wants. We don't know
what it is. It may be a tariff, it may
be an immigration policy. It may be jailing Hillary Clinton,
it may be any number of things that now will
have more of a chance of standing up legally because

(01:01:29):
the entire American legal system is being infiltrated and totally
revamped by Maga acolytes, by Trump loyalists. This is the
most important thing to keep in mind right now while
these ridiculous, aggressive, immoral immigration policies are put into place.

(01:01:52):
While they take some fifty year old gardener whose kids
who have served as veterans, and they throw them in
a van and attempt to deport him. While they take
some high school kid who's a graduate and honor student,
an athlete, and they throw him in a van because

(01:02:14):
his parents came here illegally, and he arrived at an
early age and as a result isn't technically an American
with legal status. He gets thrown in a van and
sent off. These are just a couple of the cases
that speak to a policy that is completely without reason,

(01:02:37):
and it has a cruelty to it and a wanton,
violent quality to it that is only getting worse. But
one has to remember that that policy is made legal
by the infiltration of the courts. And that's why I
see the infiltration of the courts right now as the

(01:03:01):
most important issue. So the Beauvei confirmation is again another step,
and so I'm anxious to talk to David Katz about
this tomorrow. David Katz is kind of like Rothman. He
has faith in the system. He's an optimist. I tend
to be, you know, sort of brutal in my assessment
of these things, but I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Think it's negative Nelly, Debbie Downer.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
These are brutal times. And do you want a brutal
truth teller or do you want somebody blown smoke up
your butt? I mean, I'm not mister sunshine on these things.
Where there is no sunshine. You know, you have to act.
You can't have such a normalcy bias. Well, we'll get
them in the midterms. I agree that's where we should concentrate.

(01:03:48):
But let's be aware of how we're bleeding out at
the court level and what Booker said today and the
way the Democrats walked out. It's important because that is
what's happening. The rules are being ignored. The rules are
being ignored on tariffs, The rules are being ignored at
any number of these executive orders. Who now and now
those executive orders will be deemed legal because again of

(01:04:10):
the infiltration of the courts. All right, Kim's news and
we continue Mark Thompson Show, The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
On The Mark Thompson Show, I'm Kim McAllister. This report
is sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. As Mark mentioned,
the Federal Reserve is not cutting interest rates despite President
Trump's demands. Today, the Fed announced rates will remain locked
in at four and a quarter to four and a
half percent, the fifth straight time the central Bank has
kept rate steady. Trump is insisting now is the time

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to cut rates, saying he has kept inflation at bay.
Tsunami waves hit US shores after one of the strongest
earthquakes ever recorded. The magnitude eight point eight quake off
Russia's far eastern coast resulted in tsunami waves reaching northern
California and Hawaii with minimal damage. Homeland Security Secretary of

(01:05:10):
Christy Nomes said the threat of a major tsunami has
now passed. Officials say the currents can remain dangerous for
days after a tsunami, so especially for those of us
along the coastal areas, we've got to be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Kim, of course, on full alert. The only one of
us who's actually rescued someone from the ocean. I mean, Tony,
have you rescued anyone from an ocean ever? I ask you, sir,
I threw a friend in one time about it. Albert
certainly is not and I have not. Kim fearlessly seeing

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her son Jacob engulfed by the surf, first hesitant to
go in because she didn't want to get her out there.
Nowt wrong. Then she went in and she single handedly,
without any other help, rescued Jacob from the unforgiving waters
of the Pacific, dragged him to safety, then spun him

(01:06:10):
above her head. Was unbelievable. There is a viral video
of it somewhere. Yeah, pretty incredible, Kim. So we're trying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
I'm liking how the story changes over time. This is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
She is a superhero, says JT. She's the only one
of us who has rescued someone from the surf. And
I thought of it last night when the tsunami. And
I'm not being funny about this or glib about this,
or flip about this or dismissive about this. Last night
when the tsunami warnings went out, I thought, Kim is

(01:06:44):
the only one who is capable of rescuing anyone, and
she's not with me. And if I'm engulfed by these
Pacific waters, it's the end.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
So I'm just I need to apparently I need to
take a rescue class and actually get good at this.
If you're counting on me, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yeah, I think I think you're the real thing. Yeah, anyway, Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I think there's a hint of desperation. Yes, Democrats are
invoking a rare Senate rule to force the release of
the Jeffrey Epstein files. I don't think it's going to work.
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer sent a letter to Attorney General
Pam Bondi requesting the Justice Department hand over the full
and complete Epstein files. A centurial law says the Executive

(01:07:36):
Branch must turn over requested documents when requested by at
least five members of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Schumer says they expect the Trump administration to provide those
files by August fifteenth. You think they're going to do it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
I don't think yeah. I mean, I think this is right.
We all know the performative game, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
The Supreme Court says it will discuss Jeffrey Ry Epstein
associate Glain Maxwell's appeal of her twenty twenty one federal
sex trafficking conviction. Maxwell's lawyer said on Monday that a
non prosecution agreement made with federal prosecutors in Florida should
apply to the New York case as well. Maxwell was
convicted on charges that she recruited and groomed teenage girls

(01:08:21):
who would be sexually assaulted by Epstein. The judges will
discuss the matter in September and then post a decision
on whether they will take this case or not. Harvard
University has turned over the records of thousands of employees
to the Trump administration. A Tuesday email from Harvard's Department
of Human Resources says the Ivy League school is providing

(01:08:43):
the employee data as the Department of Homeland Security conducts
a review of its operations. Harvard has been targeted by
the Trump administration over allegations that it allowed anti Semitism
to go unchecked on campus, and so now they hand
over employee records.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I mean, this is again just one more This is
like going chapter by chapter through Timothy Snyder's on tyranny.
I mean, it's just incredible, the you know, the pre
surrender and the power that Donald Trump truly wields over

(01:09:19):
these academic institutions. So let's just review. It's the academic institutions,
it's the legal institutions. You've seen him go after many
of these law firms and now they've capitulated as well. Right,
He's had all of these firms pledge tens of millions
of dollars it might even be over one hundred million
dollars in pro bono work. That means work they'll just
do for free for him to represent him in various

(01:09:43):
cases and his interests. And then you have the extension
into the media I mean the media completely cowed the
Colbert cancelation, the way that the Paramount merger was on
the table, and so they settled on the CBS deal.
ABC tapped out by writing that check So let's just

(01:10:06):
see it. It's media, it's law, it's academics, it's the
major academic institutions. This is the checklist of a tyrant,
of a despot of authoritarianism.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
President Trump says the August first tariff deadline is firm
in a post on truth Social because that's where official
things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Trump said the deadline will not be extended and it
will be a big day for the United States. Comes
as Trump said he's placing a penalty on India as
well as a twenty five percent tariff and accused them
of buying military gear and energy from Russia. And there's
the truth Social post. The August first deadline is the
August first deadline, he writes, It stands strong and will

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not be extended. A big day for America. Texas Republicans
have released a proposed redistricting map. Of the biggest changes
are in South Texas, where the GOP has been gaining ground.
Congressman Henry Quaar's district would no longer include San Antonio,
which has been a solid Democratic voting block. New York

(01:11:12):
Governor Kathy Hokel calling for a nationwide ban on assault
weapons after Monday's mass shooting at a Manhattan office building.
Authorities say Shane to Mura sprayed the lobby with gunfire,
then unleashed more rounds on the thirty third floor with
an assault rifle, killing four people. Hockel says assault rifles
are banned in New York, but that won't stop out

(01:11:34):
of state residence like Tamura from driving in to do harm.
She said Congress must summon the courage to stand up
to the gun lobby and finally pass a national assault
weapons ban. A top advisor to former President Biden is
telling House members president Biden was fully capable of exercising
his presidential duties. The GOP led committee looking into Biden's

(01:11:57):
alleged cognitive decline and pop misuse of the president's autopad
are interviewing former Biden councilor Stephen Richetti. In an introductory
statement obtained by The Hill, Richetti told members there was
no conspiracy to hide the president's mental condition from the
American people. Former Biden senior advisor Mike Donnellan set to

(01:12:18):
be interviewed tomorrow. Los Angeles County closer to barring law
enforcement officers from covering their faces while on duty. Tuesday,
the LA County Board of Supervisors asked its attorneys to
draft an ordinance. It would ban law enforcement officers from
concealing or disguising their identities while on duty. Comes after
recent federal immigration raids in the county, often carried out

(01:12:42):
by masked ice and Border Patrol agents. Supervisors say this
proposed ordinance would apply to all law enforcement agencies operating
in unincorporated areas of Los Angeles County.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I'd love to see it. I'd love to see it.
There's no reason. Look, cops don't wear masks, right, Sheriffs
don't wear masks. They just don't. So I mean, if
you know, there's no reason for you to have a
mask on, Oh, it really isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
But there's the question there though, whether Los Angeles County
leaders can pass a law that would affect federal law
enforcement officials.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
I get it again, and the answer is, I'm sure
that the Feds are going to come in heavy handed
lyad sure prevented. But it's a I mean they We
have already seen the way the Feds come in and
just run roughshod over whatever local and state ordinances are
in place. We saw it with the National Guarden, We
saw with the Marines.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Well, this is fun. Several Cowtrans employees in Monterey could
be out of a job because of an X rated
retirement party. Ten employees are being investigated in connection with
this party held at the Monterey Cowtrans Yard. So it
was held at work.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
And go ahead. This this isn't it's an adult party
held at the car col Trans.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
This is ten employees being investigated in connection with this
party held at the Monterey Caltrans Yard and allegedly involving
alcohol and employees throwing money onto a hired stripper.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Party was said to have taken place while all of
these employees were on duty. Ten of the twelve people
at the party received termination notices and they're fighting to
keep their jobs. The other two were suspended. Quite a
retirement party.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
We have processes, approach calls and standing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, they're usually just the gold watch maybe right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
We live the whole department in one fell swoop. Wow,
it's quite a sendoff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Lehi, Uta. But it was pretty fun. Yeah, who's getting retired?
Who's retiring next week?

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Who's retiring on the Mark Thompson Show. Let's go party
of four?

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yeah, please hold my table, strippers and booz at caltrans Lehigh,
Utah is being ranked as the safest size.

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
I'd be willing to bet my lunch that there's alcohol involved.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
That was for Tom. He's right, Tom Dusonberry is right.
That was there. Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
That's a picture of Lehigh. That's beautiful, Tony. Look at
the mountains of snow Cap Hills, Gary Lovels, Downtown Little
Safe Area. Lehigh, Utah being ranked as the safest suburb
in the United States in which to live. A new
study from smart Asset examined factors like violent crime rates,
property crime rates, excessive drinking across three hundred and sixty

(01:15:37):
different suburbs in the nation to compile this listing. The Lehigh,
Utah area comes in number one, and Bethesda, Maryland, Great Falls, Virginia,
and Rockville, Maryland, all three suburbs around Washington, d C.
Followed close behind Lehigh, finishing last in the rankings. Sadly Lumberton,
North Carolina. It fell due to its extremely high number

(01:16:01):
of traffic deaths and high amount of violent crime. So wow,
maybe steer clear of Lumberton.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
It's interesting that a couple of those places you mentioned
sort of are these kind of smaller towns or whatever, smaller,
but a couple of them that you mentioned, Rockville, which
is where I worked as a as an aspiring broadcaster
at a radio station there, and Bethesda, Maryland, both of
them suburbs of Washington. They're very populous areas, like the

(01:16:28):
Big Area. I mean, Bethesda now is like DBAI. They
are all these time horises, et cetera. So it's interesting
that people feel safe there. I mean, maybe that's a
reflection of law enforcement or.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
They they looked at the numbers, the crop, property crime numbers,
the violent crime numbers, and these are the suburbs that
are the safest.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
I love it. I'm really loving it. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
So, Keanu Reeves might get his stolen watches back. The
expensive time pieces stolen from his Los Angeles home nearly
two years ago. They were reportedly recovered in law enforcement
raids in Chile and then handed back to the FBI.
The Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome was in the Chilean
capital of Santiago, discussing, among other issues, burglary crews from

(01:17:11):
that region targeting the United States. So Keon is a
nice guy. He deserves his watches back, right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I have a couple of fake rolexes, don't I, Courtney,
I got them in I got them in Vietnam.

Speaker 9 (01:17:24):
I think, yes, we got them in Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Yeah, fancy nice. Yeah, but they here's the thing about
the fake rolexes, everybody, before everybody gets too excited, they
look just like and are heavy, just like the real rolelexes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
But I have two notes on the fake stuff. Is
almost immediately it started losing time, like it was, Isn't
that right, honey? It became kind of a fun thing.
We were watching the time shrift on the fake roles.
And the second thing about the fake rolex is that
within about six weeks, certainly within two months, things like

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those little dots that you see there on the screen
that represent the one, two, three, four, in the hours
and minutes, they begin to fall off, Yeah, and they
collect there at the bottom of the Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:18:14):
The third complaint is that they're fake.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
So yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
That's what you paid for it, which is probably not much, right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Yeah, we paid, We paid fifty or dollars a week.

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
We would go back to where.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Were We went back to Vietnam.

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
Yeah, we were Saigon, and we would just go back
to define.

Speaker 9 (01:18:35):
This person the same.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Place said I bought up roll us here last year.
I really did. We went back to Vietnam and I
said it fell apart. So I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
And thank you. I don't know who you are.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
Yeah, the customer service, the warranty, really, the warranty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Really was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Lastly and I don't know if you too have seen
this yet. Happy Gilmour Too is setting records on Netflix.
The sequel to Adam Sandler's nineteen ninety six classic golf
comedy generated more than forty six million views over its
first three days, with views defined as total hours watch
divided by total runtime. That figure was the biggest US

(01:19:15):
opening weekend ever for a Netflix film. The original film also,
you call it Happy Happy Gilmour a film, it's a movie.
The original movie also garnered more interest, ranking at number
three on the global top ten list on the streaming app.
So people that caught too thought, oh, I got to
go back now and watch one, right. So it was
a big happy Gilmore weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
What did did Snyder talk about the culture Blaster talk
about it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Did he?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I don't know. I don't think Seddy Tony wasn't here. Yeah, no,
I don't't remember it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
I think his his word was, I'm going to ignore
this and pretend it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah, he likes to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Do that occasionally, promising don't want to, but I will say,
my family, we've been having a lot of family time lately.
My whole family watched this movie together and there were
parts of it were really stupid, and there were a
lot of laughs and other parts. So yeah, yeah, a
lot of cameos, a lot of famous people in this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Movie, right. I think it's why I come sort of
you know, it's this campy kind of film that yeah, exactly.
This by the way, Kamala Harris, I'm seeing making the
announcement that she will not run for California governor.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Yeah, yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Did you have it at the top of your news
I thought you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
I did not have it. It just it happened while
I was talking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
But I know, I know, that's why I just wanted
to point it out because yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, she's
going to run for president again, that's your saying. What, No,
that's not what she's saying.

Speaker 9 (01:20:56):
Yeah, like twenty forty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Yeah, but no, she's she's not running for governor of California,
which means what we'll get possibly Katie Porter in the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Maybe, I mean, I think it's a Yeah, I'd love
to see Katie Porter in the mix.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
But yeah, who else is running, isn't it Bonta, Rob Bonta.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Sure Bonta via Ra Gosha. Yeah, I don't have the
list of the top of my head, but yeah, those
come to mind. I mean, it's it's going to be crowded,
very crowded.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
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It's never been anything like this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I'm kim McAllister. This is the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
The Mark Thompson Show. Well, I intended to have Courtney
make a little appearance. Are you okay to make an appearance?

Speaker 9 (01:23:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
And just you know, I we've had a very rough
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Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah, we've got it. We've also got our sweet creature.
Our cat, favorite cat is horribly bad shake.

Speaker 9 (01:23:47):
But look what we got. How cool is this? I'm
so excited about this design.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
This is a very it's a very it's kind of
a throwback, simple design. Make Loud not Fascism.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
Very.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:24:00):
Comes in light colors.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
Because of the color of the image, and it's great.

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
It's printed, it's nice soft cotton.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Yeah, it is. It's not it's it's a great T
shirt and that's there, Make Love not Fascism, and it's
at get Markmarch dot com. We're excited because it's part
of the specialty group of shirts that kind.

Speaker 9 (01:24:26):
Of have that really cool Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
You'll be very happy with it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
And also what just arrived today, I don't know is
I don't know if you'll be able to see this,
but thank you, Tony. Those are all the specialty t shirts,
but would just arrived today? Is this is the.

Speaker 9 (01:24:45):
It's the apron.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
It's the apron for the kitchen or for the barbecue.

Speaker 6 (01:24:49):
When Mark Cause plays that he goes into the kitchen, Yeah,
well I do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I do go in get cooking.

Speaker 9 (01:24:56):
It's really nice because it's embroidered.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Yes, this is not just stamp. We don't do any stamping.
Everything embroidered.

Speaker 9 (01:25:04):
Eco friendly cotton. So it's really nice. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:09):
So now you can drink wine, drink coffee, and make
food and always think about the Mark Thompson, Yeah, exactly barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Does he get out there and grill? No, No, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
We don't do Accorney doesn't like people over at the house,
so we don't. We don't have barbecues the way I
used to. I don't have you can.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Grill up vegetables. I just remember there's no meat on
the grill.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
But oh no, absolutely have great and yeah, yeah we've
had great beacon barbecue.

Speaker 9 (01:25:34):
We have had Yeah, we have had barbecues. We don't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
We need to, Yeah, we need to do something more,
yeah than.

Speaker 9 (01:25:41):
But usually it's someone else doing it, right Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Oh, the cooking the barbecue itself, Yes, I get an
actual barbecue expert and to do it as you might imagine.

Speaker 9 (01:25:52):
Mark's a really good host.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:25:55):
Yeah, I mean the apron.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Yeah, and in fascism, one piece of merch at a time.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
There you go. That's our next shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I love that. That is really funny. That would be
a funny shirt. We're always trying to come up.

Speaker 9 (01:26:10):
With stuff, so yeah, send us anything.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Riders says, how about dog sweaters Mark's mutts for the
winter time.

Speaker 9 (01:26:18):
That's cute.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
That's really cute, very good. Yeah. Anyway, get Mark merch
dot com and if you have any thoughts of you,
you know, would like to see some dreamy piece of
merch done, We're always open. So it's the Mark Thompson
Show at gmail dot com. Mark. What about merch for cats?
Maybe cat bowl or something. I don't like to put
cats in uh clothes, Yeah, because they're not. They don't

(01:26:45):
their their fur is all part of their their sensory
set up, and so it f's with that, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
But so that's a no to the knitted Mark Thompson
hat Beanie cat Beanie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
The cat Beanie. I don't know. Maybe it's good for
photo ops, I suppose, but apart from that. My beanie
is so invoked, Tony, did you get the picture before
I get to Belinda? Of I sent it to you,
I thought maybe I sent it to Albert. God, I
thought it was gonna be Albert today, so I may
have sent it. It's of Richard Delamator. Richard Delamator cat

(01:27:22):
beds maybe, says CBDA. Possibly Yeah, no is he?

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
He?

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Answer? Tony? Not that I know of. Okay, if I did,
got lost in other stuff, Richard, I Uh, I got
it and I sent it to the wrong producer because
I didn't realize Tony would be producing today.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
So sorry, we have just this big staff of all
kinds of people. Look at the wrong producer. We have
more than one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Yeah, well we do. Uh yeah, you think would be
easy to keep track, but apparently I can't do it.
So uh anyway, Uh that's it for marks. Thank you,
Courtney who thank.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
You for all for doing all this great merch. But
is super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
She works really hard and she you know, truly she's amazing.
I mean she's you know, she's a top executive type
and for her to kind of she loves doing this though,
designing the shirts and all the rest. So you can
see the different colors. Knock around there. Get mark merch
dot com. You'll see some wild stuff, like you know,
some really nice stuff. Felines against Fascism, scratching post for kiddies. Yeah,

(01:28:31):
that's brilliant. C See show me how we can produce it,
where we can order it and and and white label it,
and we'll do it. Get March Merch dot com. Get
mark merch dot com is where you get all of
our stuff. The Mark Thomas. John Watson says Albert didn't
set up the Oh you had it, say it again?

(01:28:51):
Sorry about that. John Watson says Albert didn't set up
the I'm on vacation reply. No he did not. He
did not. Albert's not great at setting things up. But
it comes to I need to get Blinda some of
this coffee. Blenda is our ecojournalist, and these are dark

(01:29:15):
times in the ecojournalism world, I think, so a little
coffee lift would be good. Put that on my to
do list and I will get on it without any
further delay, although delaying is a cornerstone of this show.
It's time to do something that we do on Wednesdays.
We do it once a week. No other show does

(01:29:36):
this because people just frankly don't have an ongoing connection
the way I think we should to the environment, to
the planet, and to the possibilities, the wondrous possibilities that
can be unlocked, and also the real dangers and darkness
of not being careful enough and protective enough of the environment.

(01:30:01):
We have these conversations with Blinda Weymouth on Wednesdays in
a segment we call It's the planet Stupid. The planet Earth.

Speaker 9 (01:30:10):
Some call me nature.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
I am very passionate about the planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
A living, breathing planet, capable of sustaining whatever life forms
we see fit to deposit on it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe
we have her arm. It's the planet stupid. No, no, no,
it's the planet stupid. Our guide for it's the planet
stupid is Belinda Weymouth. And I, Tony, if you'll look
at your because it's not Albert today. A lot of
what she sent went to Albert and not to you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
I resent all of it to Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Oh you did, okay, very well done. Yeah, I'm glad
somebody okay.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
And I'm a tea drinker, Mark, I'm a tea drinker
not coffee teams.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Okay, well what okay, Well, then we'll send you the tea.
The tea off their website's amazing. The Coachella Valley Coffee
website has all of these manus and t's. That's what
Kim drinks and that's what we drink in our house too.
They've got tremendous teach So you have them on the
way soon.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Yeah. Yeah, And I love that T shirt. Make love
not the T shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
We've got some really great ones. Yeah, thank you. Typical
Belinda Weymouth, our eco journalist here for it's the planet Stupid.
Tell me the latest, tell me something good.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
I'm going to tell you a couple of good things.
These are really cool. So one of them is a
new energy source. We'll get to that white natural hydrogen
as opposed to that blue green stuff. But the first
one is about a steel town in West Virginia, a
town that was built on the Ohio River, and it

(01:31:44):
was a steel making town, Weatin, And it was named
after the guy who founded it, Ernest T. Weir So.
Weatin and their last steel works closed down in February
of twenty twenty four, laid off nine hundred workers. Promised
that they would be back with a transformer manufacturing plant,

(01:32:05):
and then a few months later I had to say
to all these workers who've lost their jobs, Hey, we're
really sorry. We've gone bankrupt. This is Cleveland, Cliff's the company.
We we can't come back and help you. But what
had happened in twenty seventeen is a company called form Energy.
They make storage batteries. They're called iron air batteries. I

(01:32:27):
can describe how they work, but I think it's just
more industring to really talk about this from a human
point of view. So they got one hundred and fifty
million dollars from the Biden administration, but really importantly they
got two hundred and ninety million dollars from West Virginia
and they came in and they've created this plant. And

(01:32:49):
the wild thing is it's in you know where we
are tut with a steel factory used to be. And
so they are employing former steel workers to make these
store batteries. And rather than walk into a steel mill,
you know where, you are walking on these what the
catwalks above nine hundred degree ovens with molten steel in them.

(01:33:12):
You've got cranes with three hundred thousand pounds of steel
coils going above your head. They are now they're now
working in this pristine clean space. There are indoor gardens.
It's quite different. The town is not as polluted as
it used to be. They say, when you walk down
the main street of Weirtown in its heyday in the sixties,

(01:33:33):
when steel production was really you know a go, you
would get grist on your teeth. You had to, you know,
sweep your porch because there would be steel and iron,
you know, like you know, debris on your porch. So
they've got these jobs. And the thing that's really interesting
is initially it was like, you know, this is green tech,

(01:33:54):
this is green tech, but the company is really adamant.
We are not a green deck company. And how they
market their batteries they call them, I love this their
vehicles for stabilizing the electric grid. So what they do
is they're like, we store the energy whether it comes
from wind or solar or fossil fuel, you know, generation.

(01:34:17):
We're for everyone. We're not a green company. But of
course you've got happy former steel workers, and then you've
got the naysayers. You've got people who are like, no,
no steel is going to come back. And this is
who we are, and we're conservatives, and we don't like
that form energies, you know, talks about diversity and our
inclusion and being you know, a humanitarian on their website.

(01:34:42):
They don't you know, no one's saying the word woke.
And then there are people who believe that steel is
going to come back, and the pragmatists in the town
are like, hey, you know, we went from thirty thousand
people to eighteen thousand. Steelers. Production is now happen and China, Japan, everywhere,
but here it would cost a billion dollars to bring

(01:35:03):
it back. We've got this new company. It's hope. I mean,
they say, when you walk into this factory, you feel hope.
And yes, in the parking lot there are electric vehicles
being charged in big trucks, and you know, it's a
real mixture. So it's that sort of the thing that
I've talked about a lot on the show. It to
me really is the intersection of you know, the old

(01:35:27):
way and the new and the sort of you know,
the tension that that brings. Because this is a very
conservative red town. You know, seventy percent of people voted
for Trump. They don't want to be associated with green energy,
but other people are like, you know, this is the
future and it's built right in what was the steel works.

(01:35:50):
You know, it's built right there. So it's just sort
of you know, the world is changing and we talk
about this often. You know, change is hard, and you're
seeing it in this very conservative town. But even the mayor,
you know, the mayor worked in the steel works for
forty eight years, but he's like, bring it on, we

(01:36:12):
need form energy. Thank goodness they're here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Oh I'm a god. Are you kidding? It's breathing life
into a community that was, you know, staggering economically, and
we have the pictures Tony's you know, brought them up
during your conversation. For those who are just listening, you
see the transformation of this town and of this industry,
you know, from steel to as you suggested, this incredibly

(01:36:35):
pristine environment in which they're producing these what do they
call them grid protectors or whatever, Well, well they call
them vehicles.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
It's great vehicles for stabilizing the electrical grid. That's what
they call their best.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
This could be, you know, it's gonna be a high
tech look at it. It could be a tech startup
from the looks of it. It's remarkable.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
How Yeah, Well, the thing about these batteries, which is
wild so iron in the discharge they call it, when
it's creating its energy, it uses oxygen from the atmosphere
and it discharges energy and it creates rust. And in
the recharge the rust goes turns back into iron, so
the whole process can start again. So it's quite you know,
it's it's quite sort of basic in what it does.

(01:37:20):
It's just chemistry, you know, this is just chemistry. But
it's you know, this is what we need. We need
these special batteries, all the ones that we talk about
on the show. You know, when you have water and
you move it uphill when you've got all the solar
and wind being generated, and then at night, when there's
no solar and wind, the water goes down, you know,
to the lower level, releases all this you know, electricity

(01:37:40):
as it goes through the turbines. I mean that's really
you know, low tech, high impact, you know, my favorite,
and this kind of is too. But yeah, it's a
and and it's interesting that the company is really adamant,
you know, even though they came in, you know, they
got their money from Biden on the you know, the
shift renewables and the IRA. But but this is the thing,

(01:38:03):
Like there are people in the town who are like
anything that is touched by Biden. You know, no, they
don't want it. But this is saving you. This is
saving your town and stopping people, the workers from having
to leave to go to other places for work. And
then it's also bringing in you know, you know, highly
educated technical people from all over the world. They've got

(01:38:25):
people coming in from Brazil and India. So you really,
you're really reinvigorating this town. And it is I get it.
I get it. It's hard to go from the status
quo to something new. But man, this is a this
is your lucky break right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Well, Kurt says it as a throwback. I wish I
was a fly on the wall when the first automobile
rolled off the assembly line and horse drawn carriage industry
members revolted. You know, the it's true. I mean, new
technologies come oftentimes begrudgingly, you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
And this electric this electric grid is stressed in ways
that are only going to get not only substantially worse,
but I would suggest like a standard deviation worse. They're
going to become so horribly stressed as a result of
AI that the kind of stressors that we've seen historically

(01:39:21):
on the electric grid, don't you think, Belinda, are going
to be quaint compared to the kind of stressors that
we're going to see in the years ahead. In the
immediate years.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Ahead, Yeah, yeah, what's ahead I think is just yeah,
going to be It's going to be a whole new world.
The amount of energy that you know, AI, Bitcoin, all
these things use it, it's going to sort of blow
out the industries out of the water.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
And the aware says this, not to interrupt, but I
saw the headline that AI will soon use more power
in Montana than the humans there. That can't be a
good sign. I mean, again, that's what we're talking about,
all of those tech developments, as you say, Crypto, AI,
et cetera, that required tremendous energy and water.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. And the second thing I wanted
to talk about is sort of along these lines, you know,
the way that we have been doing business and the
way that we are going to need to be doing business,
and that we need different forms of energy, and we
need energy that's really powerful, and we also need to

(01:40:24):
decarbonize our energy sources. So the new gold Rush. So
in the eighteen hundred you had this guy called Edwin Drake.
He was an entrepreneur and he was sure that he
was going to find oil in Pennsylvania, you know, under
the ground, and other people are like, what are you
talking about, ed when you're you know, that's ridiculous. And

(01:40:47):
in eighteen fifty nine he discovered it, and the modern
age and oil and the world as we know it
was created. So what we have right now is we
have a new generation of wildcatters. You'll be interested to
know that Bill Gates is backing one of these groups.
And what they're looking for at this is this stuff.
It's pure natural. It's called white hydrogen. So hydrogen is

(01:41:11):
the most prevalent element that we have, we know it.
So hydrogen is a tiny little h you know, on
its own, you know, one atom. It's the lightest, the
most prevalent, the simplest that we have. We know it
as the molecule that it forms when two hes join
together H two. So it's a gas. And the thing
about hydrogen is it has an incredible amount of energy

(01:41:35):
in it, you know, three times what oil does. So
it's really important. And the thing about this white hydrogen
is that it occurs naturally. It's created when there's tectonic
movement between plates. It's underneath them. They believe it's in
mountain ranges. And it's going to be cheaper, way, way

(01:41:55):
cheaper than blue or green hydrogen to you know, because
you just have to drill it. It comes out of
the ground. It's kind of ready to go, whereas green
and blue hydrogen are incredibly energy intensive. And also there's
a lot of carbon now you see here, So you've
got gray hydrogen coming from natural gas and it's you know,

(01:42:17):
the byproduct is the carbon dioxide, which is a greenhouse gas,
so it's super polluting. But hydrogen is really important because
we use it in refining, we use it in the
chemical industry. It's used to make ammonia for fertilizers. We
need hydrogen and blue and green hydrogen. So blue hydrogen.
You take the natural gas and you split it into

(01:42:37):
CO two. So natural gas is c H four. That's
what methane is, one carbon four hydrogens, and you split
it apart and you get CO two and you get hydrogen.
But CO two is you know, greenhouse gas, so then
we go to green hydrogen, where you to make it
really green, you have to use renewable electricity to do it,

(01:42:58):
and you're just splitting water into highydrogen and oxygen. But
it takes so much energy. And the thing about this
white hydrogen and the reason why people are excited about it,
and you've got these sixty different companies around the world,
you know, we're the ones who are going to you know,
to find it at it is because it's going to
be way cheaper to produce. But here's the thing about it.

(01:43:21):
So the US Geological Survey has estimated that below the
Earth's mantle, below you know, the crust of the Earth,
we've got between one and ten trillion tons of it.
Most realistically it'll be five point six trillion tons. That's
a lot. Some of it's going to be too deep
to get, some of it's going to be off sure,

(01:43:42):
some of it the deposits will be too small. So
right now it's hugely speculative. But you've got these you've
got guys who worked at oil in the oil industry.
Then now wildcat is looking for white hydrogen. So you've
got you know, Chevron BP, you've got Braziz what's the
company from Brazil called the Pectobras. They're out looking for it.

(01:44:06):
You've got Bill Gates, his energy breakthrough, is putting money
behind this French company called Mantle eight, so it's super
high tech. Mantle eight are using this four D technology,
so they use geology, geophysics, geochemistry, and they're sort of
mapping the entire world basically the mountain ranges, so everywhere

(01:44:26):
from the Alps to the Himalayas, because that's where they
believe they're going to find it. And this company, this
French company, Mantle eight, they are drilling for it in
the Pyrenees. They believe by twenty thirty they'll have their
first kilogram. It will be way way cheaper than the

(01:44:47):
hydrogen that we're getting right now in the world. I
have to tell that this story because this is really
interesting about white hydrogen. So the only place where it's
producing energy right now is this tiny little village in
western Mali. And what happened was there was a and
a worker was leaning over the bore or with a
lit cigarette and there was an explosion and they discovered
that they had, you know, this white this pure hydrogen

(01:45:09):
just bubbling out of this borehole. So now that village
is all the other electricity is being generated by this
white hydrogen. And what these you know, oil guys want
to do in the rest of the world they've been
doing exploratory drilling in the US and Australia is they
want to find it because they believe white hydrogen there's
enough of it to meet our hydrogen needs for the

(01:45:31):
next two hundred years, and there is way more of
it than what we have of proven natural gas deposits,
you know, in the world, and that it would be,
you know, one of the levers that we would use
to make this transition to renewables. I think you're getting
like it's hugely speculative. You know, you've got to find it.

(01:45:53):
A lot of it's mixed with methane, so you've got
to separate it from that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
So when you add but because of those things that
you just mentioned, when you add those costs into the
equation which involves this energy, which is much cheaper, much
less expensive than traditional energies, does it still pencil out
as more cost effective.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Yeah, it's still it's still five times cheaper than this
blue or green hydrogen that we're making right now, which
is only producing one percent of the hydrogen that the
you know, the planet needs.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
You know, so you said twenty thirty, is that the
timeline that we're on. You mentioned that that one European
company is you know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Yeah, this is this is for Mental eight. And this
is the other thing about it. It's sort of like
you know, the the fission nuclear power. You know, it'll
take a decade for this to come online, but it's
that thing, you know, like I just said that we're
going to need all the levers to make this transition.
If we've got to find the energy for AI and

(01:46:56):
for you know, bitcoin and cryptocurrency, all these technologies that
are coming online, we're going to need clean energy sources
and we're going to need as much energy as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
And this is you're saying that. And let me just
you're implying anyway that in that decade or whatever, that
we actually get to white hydrogen, that it will kick
the door open. It's like the fission reaction, like in
other words, nuclear power. I mean, once it it comes,

(01:47:26):
it's going to come big.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Well, well, what they really see is it'll be like
Edwin Drake. It'll be like when you know, when he
discovered oil in Pennsylvania in eighteen fifty nine. It will
be a moment like that, like they're calling.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
It'll be like a white hydrogen gold rush almost yea, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Yeah, they're calling it, you know, white gold and they're
calling the wildcatters, the guys who are out there looking
for it, and the systems that they're using that they're
very technologically advanced and so and you can see why
Bill Gates is into it because he loves technologically you know, complicated.
That's why he's entered the fission. You know, let's do
what the sun does, you know, uh, to create nuclear power.
Let's make it as difficult as possible for ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Not that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
I mean, they're right, because what the sun is doing
is you know, intense and impressive and better than fusion,
which is you know, way more polluting, and you know
all this nuclear waste that we have in the world
that we're trying to deal with. So so, yes, very speculative. Yes,
the timeline is you know, not you know, as fast

(01:48:28):
as we need. But also I think at this point,
because it is in such a nascent stage, we don't
know how big it's going to be. So imagine if
it is as big as oil. Imagine if it does,
you know, for our energy needs what oil does. And
we are sort of catapulted into this, you know, new
and obviously you know I say that, Mark like you know,

(01:48:48):
it's going to be great. I mean, it's going to
have to be done, you know, very you know, with real.

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
Care.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
Because the other thing about this hydrogen and I'm pretty
sure I didn't mention this already, but this naturally occurring
little hydrogen molecule that's under the ground is used as
a food source for microbes, and so we don't want
to upset you know, the chemistry and the ecology of
you know, our subterranean world. And we know, you know,

(01:49:21):
because microbes are be getting so much breast in the
last you know, five ten years. Microbes are super important.
You know, they're really important in us what they do
for human beings. They're all over us, you know, inside
on our skins. You know, we couldn't live without microbes
and the microbial action that happens on the ocean floor
and subterranean subterraneously. You know, those things are important. So

(01:49:44):
you know, with all these things, you know, we have
to proceed with caution. But I one of the things
I love is that, you know, in spite of what's happening,
you know, in this very sort of you know, this
sort of the administration that we have right now, that
you know what's to drill by be drilling, you know,
keep us on oil. Actually, what oil companies are doing

(01:50:07):
is getting out there and looking for the new alternatives
to oil. So these oil executives are like, again, I'm
done with oil. I'm onto white hydrogen. It's happening in
spite of you know, the administration. Yeah, he's exciting to me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
He's got a kind of a nineteen fifty five worldview
Donald Trump does. But hey, I wouldn't want to end up.
I'm so grateful for some good news. Thank you for that,
two really great pieces of news. I do want to
because I know you are well aware of this, and

(01:50:39):
I do want to just mention that this move on
the part of Lee Zelden at the EPA to overturn
a key EPA finding about greenhouse gas emissions and about pollutants,
this will completely illegal any kind of legislative or even

(01:51:09):
general policy matters that pass at a municipal level, even
that are associated with curbing greenhouse gases and getting onto
alternative energies and making that a priority. In any way,
the EPA will no longer recognize in this finding the
dilitarious effects of greenhouse gases.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Yeah, it's super dumb and you know, kind of unbelievable
that this is happening. I mean, it's so Project twenty
twenty five. You know, it's it's ridiculous. But here's the thing.
So I was listening this morning and what that you know,
one lawyer was saying, is you know, the thirty three
hundred page brief they've got on just mentling this. He said,

(01:51:52):
it's sort of ridiculous. It's not and it's like the
things that Trump did in his first term. You know,
it's just thrown together. It's like the you know, throwing
everything against the wall hoping that something will stick. Trying
to go after this important beach piece of regulatory you know,
protection that was created for us in twenty two thousand

(01:52:15):
and nine. It's going to be a huge legal battle
and it's going to take up a lot of time.
And I always feel like would think, you know, so
the problem is is while that is happening, you know,
car companies which are making the shift to renewables, you know,
you know, electric and hybrid vehicles. Anyway, they'll sell as

(01:52:37):
many gas cars as they possibly can, you know, while
this is happening. So that's bad. But it will be
held up in the courts and it will go on
and on. And obviously we have a Supreme Court that
is very inclined towards President Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
That's a great, great but that's thank you for pointing
out the legal because in many of the articles I've read,
they offen they note that it's going to take years
of legal wrangling and ultimately if yeah, if they were
to prevail in court, the Trump administration is to prevail
in court. The uh, the ability of any president or
any administration to curb fossil fuel emissions is completely undermined.

(01:53:12):
I mean, there's just no way to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Yeah, even if you had a Republican president who believed
in renewables, it would be hard for them, you know,
to reverse it. I mean, it's it would be the
biggest piece of deregulation that you know, ever happened in
the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
It just stands in the way of basic science. It's crazy,
it's just crazy. But again, you know, you can put
the you know, HHS and RFK Junior in that same
category and all the rest. They scientists have no place
in this administration and as a result, they're just they're
completely doctrine driven. But I don't want to drag you
into the politics necessarily. I just wanted to note the
EPA because it was such a it was such a

(01:53:54):
big deal, and I know you wanted to mention it,
but we have limited time. But I did want to.
You know, you kind of chose those two uplifting stories.
I also want to give you something else, uplifting. Love
Love Love. Belinda's glasses Johannes Johannah. I think that is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
These are good. They don't make them any more, unfortunately,
but I have a couple of peers. I like these.
They've got a hilarious name the company, I kid you not.
They're called Spiffy Society. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
But the you're saying they don't make those anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
I don't think so. I don't think so. If you
looked up their website, it was a pretty terrible website.
They only made this these glasses, but they made them
in tons of different colors. They were really cool. I've
got a blue pear that are dark on the outside
and pale blue on the inside. They're great and I've
got a lot of compliments on them, and they have
to say I'm really sorry. You know, unless you can
find an old optician who's still got a couple in

(01:54:51):
this case, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
No anyway, all right, well, you and your glasses rocked
it beautifully to thank you, Belinda Weymouth. Appreciate you. And
that is it's the planet stupid for the den more
is the planet stupid?

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
No, no, no, it's the planet stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Next time only on the Mark Thompson Show. Mm hmmm,
Martin Thompson. I can't believe it's We're done.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
It's a shocker.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
It is a shocker. Rough day. Glad everybody pulled it together.
Thank you, Kim, thank you Tony. And uh, what do
we have, outstanding, Jim Slaton one of our ogs badges.
We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges.
I don't have to show you any stinking badges, says
Jim Slayton. No, the ten dollars super chat related to

(01:55:42):
the ice and federales that roll through so many communities,
and they wear masks. There are no badges, there are
no Badge numbers. There is nothing I from beaware as
I think about all these issues. The older I get,
the more solace I take in thinking life isn't forever

(01:56:06):
be aware? Wow, sobering. I don't know if I'm encouraged
by that. I don't know any where says I take
solace in that? Do you take solid I think we
live in denial on some level, don't we. This is
kind of more of a philosophical conversation for another time,
although I love philosophical conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
We sort of do live in denial. You know that
the end is going to come, and that's why I
think it's so painful when it does. You know what,
Tony is our resident philosopher. What do you think? Johnny Hooker?
I think says it best you come in this world
with nothing and all you take with you is a
blue suit. Yeah. Different different view, but the same right.

(01:56:52):
And ben Ilko says, at this rate, twenty thirty is
not in our future in relation to the target date
for that white hydrogen and the development there no inlay.
It says China is overtaking us. Every time Trump says drill, baby, drill,
and he pulls government money from solar, hydro wind and battery,

(01:57:15):
saying it's better to poison us because oil is a
small hole in the ground. It hurts the USA. Of course,
that that is very very true. No way, Mark, you
were in Rockville? What years I worked there? In ninety
two ninety three, says ba Ware, Well, it was way
before ninety two ninety three. Yeah, the radio station where

(01:57:40):
I worked. I've got some great stories about that radio
station for another time, and that that was just beginning
my career. And it's a really big job, you know
for me in Washington, d C. And in Rockville, whis
right outside of Washington, to see the signal of the
radio station went into Washington. So uh, I got that

(01:58:03):
was that was a very big job for me. I'm
just trying to think of what story to tell I've got.
I've got so many stories from that station. It was
really crazy. I'll just tell you one story. So that
station was a rock station, okay, like a Top forty station,
you know, like Z one hundred or Kiss FM or
you know top forty station. I don't know what, what's
the one in the Bay Area, the big rock station, KIM,

(01:58:25):
the big pop station, you know, the big like pop
music station, hit station, hit me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
So we've got Alice, We've got the hard rock station,
We've got all kinds.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
But anyway, the main, the main, you know, the big
one that he plays all the hits. That's what we did.
But the owner was this old man, think like some
of the Redstone old like really old, ancient guy, and
he was super religious. Okay, So in the middle of
morning Drive and you know, you're there, you're pumping all

(01:58:54):
of these songs. I don't know what they are at
the time, you know, the Beg's and uh Oblo Cruise
or whatever the songs were back then. We had to
stop the show down fifteen minutes a morning so that
he could do his message of hope, which was a
religiously underpinned thing. And here's even the worst part. So

(01:59:21):
you're going from hit music to message of hope at
eight thirty in the morning, like the heart of morning Drive.
It came on a reel to reel tape. Remember the
reel to reel tapes, Tony, there was a real you
know you had it now you it's you know those
are ancient and the reel to reel tape because of
some magnetization of it or whatever Tony could give it

(01:59:42):
to you. It had this kind of muffled sound like that,
and he'd sound clear for his second muffl like that.
Oh he's telling you about crap you don't want to
hear about anyway. In the morning, you're just trying to
get to work. We're playing all these hit this hit music,
and then we put on the muscle Muscle. It's all
about you know, God and stuff like that and like that.

(02:00:03):
So you can't even thank you. That's exactly what the
machine looked like. And it didn't matter how good the
machine was playing the message of hope, because the message
of a hope was degraded in some way by the anyway.
That was what I dealt with in Rockville, Maryland. So
it was a long time ago. And uh, and that's
one of my stories from that wonderful station.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
Better than You. My first job in radio was in
Sacramento at a privately owned station, and I was working
the overnight shift as I was a little baby DJ
and the owner used to bring in these hookers at night,
and there I was been and records and walking in
at night trying to show off his radio station to

(02:00:44):
these ladies.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Why God, don't. We could try ignoring its unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
Yeah, I learned you stay out of the back office
at night because you don't know what's going on back there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
Uh huh yeah yeah, Benny Loco says cannabis. We all
get along exactly, all right. I have to adjourn this
great meeting tomorrow. Hi Kim, this is a chaplain freend message.

(02:01:17):
Hi Mark Kim, Tony nothing wrong with that, Mark. We
need more people like that. What was that related to?
More people like what? More people like you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
That's how I chose to take that. The more people
like Mark Thompson.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Yeah, thank you, all right, I'll thank you Tim. Who's
on the show tomorrow? David Katz, the great federal prosecutor,
speak out of the side of the table, and we
have much to talk about with Emil Beauvet and more.
As I've said to you, in my view, now, the

(02:01:55):
front and center issue is the courts, and we'll talk
about what's happening to the courts with David Kats and tomorrow.
I see this now. I'm Shadow of Stevens for the
Mark Johnson Show. Bye bye, Mark. Can't you be on
time for once? Okay, we're out of time now, but
I've done a two hour show, so i don't feel

(02:02:17):
guilty in the least. Bye Bye

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