MAGA’s Epstein Outrage: Bongino Goes Scorched Earth on Bondi as MAGA Hunts Someone to Blame 7/14/25

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a lot today. Gary Dietrich, the political Ninja, joins us
bottom of the first hour. There's problems in magaaland this
may be a political issue that Donald Trump, who is

(02:58):
the Teflon don for sure, may have trouble evading completely. Now,
obviously he's a very powerful political force, a force of charisma,
a force of a cult following that really won't let
go of him no matter what. But that said, that

(03:20):
same crew is quite disheartened at the way that he
and his administration. Now insiders can no longer say it's
the deep state keeping information from you. So we'll talk
about the Epstein files, the significance of the Epstein files,
and the revelations associated with the Epstein files, and the

(03:41):
presumed revelations because they're not being released. That's all relevant
and important. It's not the most important thing going on
in the country or the world for that matter. I mean,
you have a recharging of Ukraine's supply lines when it
comes to weapons. Donald Trump now seems to be tacking
toward supporting Ukraine with weaponry and considering more sanctions against Russia.

(04:07):
I mean, this isn't about face from where he was
in the first hour of his presidency. That is significant.
I think the tariffs are massively significant. They'll have a
tremendous economic effect, both in this country and elsewhere. It
also throws us back into this world that increasingly sees
America's traditional allies seeking each other and a relationship distinct

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from an America that they really can't count on. So
that's I think a wildly significant thing. And we'll talk
about tariffs as they relate to everything from Mexico and
Canada to Brazil. That Bizarro tariff that's imposed because of
the relationship that Trump had to Bolsonaro, who's on trial there.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Hey, question what happened in ninety deals in ninety days?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, they kind of evaporate. There's like two and a
half deals. Maybe you don't even really have that you
have because you have great Britain, right and you have
a kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
A deal running to us. They're all going to be
running to America to make their deals.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I couldn't get the phone off the hook fast enough.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, that's right, the ringing, it's ringing off the hook.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
So just yes or no.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You still do not have a plan.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
They have concepts of a plan.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, so you know when the BS artist is called
out on his BS, you know it's all great. When
you're saying that surgeon doesn't know what he's doing. Let
me tell you something. I could save patients at this hospital.
Put me in charge. That guy's old, his handshakes, it's
no good. He's a bad surgeon. Put me in there.

(05:46):
You become head of the hospital, You become top surgeon,
and patients start dying on the table under your watch.
That's exactly what's happening. We all know Trump is all
show and no go. He's a wildly gifted BS artist,
but BS doesn't govern now. He is accompanied by others

(06:09):
who have an agenda Russell Vote, for example, the Project
twenty twenty five guys. They have a plan to dismantle government.
His best friend Elon Musk, when he started the administration,
he gave him the keys to government. Musk went through
and institution by government institution, he dismantled all of those
government agencies that were regulatory impediments to Elon Musk. He

(06:34):
got rid of all of those regulatory fines and court
cases associated with government. He got rid of them by
getting rid of the agencies and by firing the people
under the Doge thing. You were looking at waste, fraud,
and abuse, and everybody was playing along. And of course
the Congress completely in the grasp of this president, let

(06:58):
him do all of this. So that was the beginning
of the Trump presidency. Then of course Musk pulled away.
Still cuts going on under the umbrella of Doge. And now,
of course Musk does something else on an adversarial enemy
footing with Trump. He suggests that Donald Trump is actually

(07:19):
in the Epstein files so prominently that they shouldn't be ignored.
And that's just one of the people calling for the
release of the Epstein files. Though it's interesting I think
that tweet or post social media post was taken down
by Musk after a few days because he has that

(07:41):
weird relationship with Trump. So that's kind of an overview
of few of the things going on. But I've left
out immigration. Immigration is a huge front and center issue
for this presidency and for this administration. But I would
also say that the way in which ICE agents are
storming into residences and storming into high school graduations, home depots, lows,

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et cetera, restaurants that's now been challenged in court, and
the court has pushed back on it and enjoined has
stopped ICE agents from being able to do that any longer,
being able to storm those places without probable cause, without
a warrant. Can't do it based on language spoken, can't

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do it based on physical appearance, and homans on the
record saying we look for these tattoos, we look for
I mean, there's a trail here that would suggest that
the manner in which ICE is proceeding, the manner in
which the Department of Homeland Security is rounding up so

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many of these people, flies in the face of these orders.
So the legal steps that they'll have to take to
get them back to the kind of policy and mass
deportations that they're clearly issuing. That's that's going to be
the subject of conversation this week and of policy shifts

(09:09):
this week. You saw that someone died at that Camillo raid,
at that marijuana tomato farm, in the tear gas and
in the chaos produced by DHS. Guy dies. He's been
working there for twenty years. He fell off a grain

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silo or one of those you know, some platform that
was elevated, and he died from his injuries. So that
I think the Immigration policy pursued by this administration with
such zeal, with such aggression, with such carelessness, the building

(09:50):
of that alligator Alcatraz in eight days down in Florida.
All of that stuff is really important. But the thing
that has seized the headline because it's produced this massive split,
a political split in Mago world, and it's produced a
split in the Trump administration. Let's not forget Pam Bondi

(10:16):
heads the Justice Department. She works hand in glove with
Patel and Bongino. The big story there is these Epstein
files and the continued suppression of the Epstein files. So
let's get into that a little bit. And I want
to start by reminding everyone what the Epstein files were

(10:40):
to the mag of Faithful. Bongino built a career on this.
His podcast was on iHeartRadio, just like ours is his
constant banging of the drum. These files have revelations that
must be exposed. Jeffrey Epstein a reputed and high profile

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horror show when it comes to the abuse of these
women and trafficking these women, has overlap with very powerful people,
and the government doesn't want you to know it, is
what Dan Bongino was saying, and he wasn't alone. A
lot of mega faithful were saying that, and the conspiracy
theorists suggested the reason we're not finding out about this

(11:29):
is because of the deep state. Laura Lumer was in
there with that, and now she is even on I
would say footing. That doesn't put her in the same
camp as Donald Trump. Trump wants to keep the lid
on the Epstein files. Here's a little bit of Bongino
and friends before they got into power.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Epstein's story is a big deal. Please do not let
that story go.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Who has Jeffrey Epstein's black book?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
FBI? But who that is that?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I mean, that's under direct control of the director of
the FBI.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
What the hell of the House Republicans doing? They have
the majority, You can't get the list. Put on your
big boy.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Would you declassify the Epstein files?

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I would, all right, I guess I would.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
I think that less so because you.

Speaker 9 (12:24):
Know, you don't know if you don't want to affect
people's lives of its phony stuff in there, because there's
a lot of phony.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Stuff with that whole world.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I think I would.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
This isn't about Epstein or nine to eleven or JFK
or RFK.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
It is, but it isn't. It's about a bigger thing.

Speaker 10 (12:40):
If you're lying about that, you're lying about everything.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Who's on the Epstein tapes, folks, who's on those tapes?
Who's in those black books? Why have they been hiding it?

Speaker 11 (12:52):
And this is something Donald Trump has talked about, the
DOJ maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, that really happened.

Speaker 12 (13:00):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump. Everything's going to come
out to the public. The public has a right to know.
Americans have a right to know.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
What a difference a few weeks makes. One thing note
is that Donald Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey
Epstein four years. The two were these kind of playboys,
international playboys, rich guys. That's really all Donald Trump is
still right. He's an international playboy. He never was a
successful businessman. He finally got the presidency and now he's

(13:35):
been able to enrich himself. Now he's a legit billionaire.
But all I'm saying is, and this isn't a hate
on Trump thing at all, I'm just suggesting that it
was an odd demand from Mega, given the fact that
you knew Donald Trump and Epstein were such good friends
for so long. I mean, surely they hung out, they
flew together Epstein and Trump. Epstein called Trumps best friend.

(13:57):
So all I would say is that now you guys
are in power, and of course when you look at
the Epstein file, you're going to see Trump everywhere because
he was everywhere with Epstein. I'm not saying Trump did anything,
but I do know he hung out with a guy.
There's video of that, and there is demonstrable evidence of that.

(14:20):
So Mago world wanting it released, knowing that Trump's footprints
are everywhere with Epstein is already an odd ask. But
it's too late because they all built these careers and
so much momentum politically based on the fact that we're
the transparent ones. We're going to come into power and

(14:43):
we're going to share with the American people what the
deep state didn't want you to see. So JFK, MLK,
Jeffrey Epstein, all of that project to whatever it's called,
what is that area fifty one tony, you know, we're
going to do all the UFO information it's all coming forward.
I'll just remind you and then I'll give you the

(15:04):
reaction just this weekend. I'll just remind you that this
whole Epstein thing happened when Donald Trump was president the
first time, so you could have released the Epstein files
already during President Trump season one. Then it went through
Biden wasn't released. That was when these guys really picked

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up some steam, the Bonginos of the world, the Charlie
Kirks of the world, Megan Kelly, and then Trump's back
in Power season two, and he really is swimming away
from the release of these materials. So let's look at

(15:47):
the reaction. This was the Epstein reaction when Donald Trump
was confronted with it this past week during a meeting
at which Pam Bon He picked up the baton of
there's nothing to see here.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's interest.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
people still talking about this guy?

Speaker 7 (16:20):
This creep that is unbelievable. Do you want to waste
the time and do you feel like answering? I don't
mind answering.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
It just seems like a desecration.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
But you go ahead, and of course BONDI then went
on about there's nothing to see here, there's no here here,
and the reaction was strong. Here is a little bit
of how Magaworld was reacting to all of this over

(17:02):
the weekend.

Speaker 10 (17:05):
How many of you are not.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
SETI conference, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (17:09):
I was just talking with the results of the NS.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Lord Ingram. I guess is who this is. I'm just trying.
I'm identifying it for the people just listening and not watching.

Speaker 13 (17:23):
What I'm getting at is at some point where we
want answers, at some point answer the questions.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
That's who went to Epstein Islands, who specifically went on
the plane, who stayed for more than a night.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't think they're telling us the truth about Epstein.
I think that that guy was involved in something the fairies.
That n implicates a whole lot of people.

Speaker 14 (17:41):
I will not rest until we go full jan sixth
Committee on the Jeffrey Epstein files, and every single client
that was associated with this thing has an FBI agent
at their door, on their phone going after them the
same way they went after the Chant sixers.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, so you can see that the jihad continues. You know,
those are all people who want the information released. And
by the way, those influencers were given by Pam Bondi
those white binders that were supposedly filled with information about Epstein,
and of course it was all redacted. It was like

(18:25):
what you do if you wanted to punk somebody, remember that,
you know, or like, you know, why why it's all redacted?
There's nothing actually in there. It was really almost cruel
because they were all posting. They were saying, this is
it the Epstein files. We've got it, Pam Bondy, she's
released it. There it is. They're showing thank you, Tony.

(18:46):
They're showing these white binders. These white binders are filled
with nothing but redactions. So now more on the reaction
this just over the weekend to the fact that the
administration is keeping the lid on this release of any

(19:07):
materials associated with the Epstein case, and the tough spot
that Trump finds himself in politically as I say, he's
been able to thread every needle politically, he's so clearly
has a grip on so much of America, but this
one presents some unique problems for him. Go ahead, Tony,

(19:32):
be clear about this, christ Body.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
There's no chance, in my opinion, that Pam Bondi made
this decision on her own.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
No chance.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
She was instructed by the White House that we're not
releasing this stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And that's why he's defending her.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
And now he's at cross purposes though, because when you
bring in people like Cashpitel and Dan Bongino, who are
true believers in what Trump was saying prior to getting elected,
they're saying, wait a second, we came here to do
the transparency thing.

Speaker 11 (20:02):
It seems to me that it wasn't so much Trump
himself that was fueling the conspiracy theories.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
It was the people very close to him.

Speaker 11 (20:08):
His biggest supporters, people like Cash Mattel and like Dent
Dan Bungino.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Which John, wait a second, we cannot let the president
off that easily. He benefited directly from it. He fueled it,
he encouraged it, and he certainly didn't stop it. So
you know, part of what bothers me in this context
is that Donald Trump gets the pass. It wasn't him,
but with somebody else. He took these people who were
doing exactly what you just said and put them in

(20:33):
charge of the people on the front line of protecting
the American people from crime and terrorism and counterintelligence operations.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
He encouraged this, and by putting them in those positions,
he supported the work they were doing.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
Let me play what Trump said Tuesday at his cabinet meeting.
When he's there at the cabinet meeting, Pam Bondi is
just a couple of seats away from him, and a
reporter tries to ask Bondi about all of this, and
Trump intervenes and says.

Speaker 9 (20:59):
This, are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein yet?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
For years?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So you can, but you got the I thought that
was you know, Christy not a fan, but I thought
he had good analysis there. And he is right that
it's pretty hard to make up the playbook that doesn't
end with the quarterback on everything being Donald Trump, particularly

(21:26):
given the fact that Donald Trump is all over anything
in any conversation related to Jeffrey Epstein simply by virtue
of his proximity. They were close all the time. So
of course Trump has told Bondy to suppress it, and
Bondi is being defended by Trump. That is the game.

(21:48):
The question becomes how damaging to this administration will this
scandal and it is a scandal, it's now I think
achieved that tipping point. How dangerous and how politically damaging
will it be? Now, Dan Bongino, who's the number two
guy at the FBI, that's the guy who really handles
things day to day under Patel, he is threatening to quit.

(22:13):
He had an argument with Pambandia that supposedly was so
agitated that they were shouting each at each other. And
Bondi and Patel may find themselves on adversarial footing. We'll see.
But you know, these are hugely I was just going

(22:33):
to say, these are hugely problematic positions for Bongino to
be in. Bongino built a career. I mean, I'm talking
about millions of dollars and a lot of popularity and
social media cred on the fact that we played you
a bunch of it. We're going to release this stuff.
This is a government cover up and the people need

(22:54):
to know about it. And now he's part of it.
Go ahead, Kim.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm just I guess I'm surprised, and maybe I shouldn't be,
but it seems like, regardless of whether they built built
up their careers talking about the Epstein files, that whenever
Trump so called Teflon Dawn says you know about face
or here's what we're focusing on now, or here's what
we're not going to talk about, or here's what we are,

(23:19):
that everyone gets in line and says, oh, well, never
mind about that, because Trump says it's not a big deal,
Like there's such blind faith among these maga faithful that
I'm just surprised that something finally sticks or that maybe
this is the thing where they look at him and go, oh,
he's not truthful about something.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I think this is why this is such a
big deal, for just the reasons that you have touched
on that. Normally everybody just falls in line and goes, oh,
I get it, Okay, yeah, waste fraud and abuse, that's
what we're talking about. Okay, wayte fraud and abuse, got it.
And then they all sing from the same hymnal.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Whether it makes sense or right.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
And now they're in a position where they have been
singing from a different hymnal so loudly for so long
that they can't now change hymnals. I mean, really just
to extend the metaphor. They have truly been so vocal

(24:21):
about the release of this information, about the transparency with
which they are now going to respect the American people,
that it's really hard to about face and the whole
idea that they've gone from. This is an incredible conspiracy.
It extends over both parties. This is a deep state,

(24:42):
deep state plot, and there's a lot of stuff to
be revealed here to go from that, and they pound
it every day to there's nothing to see here. Gosh,
the guy did commit suicide, and it turns out there
is nothing. I mean, we wish we had something to
share with you, but we don't. Come on, man, that's

(25:03):
too big a turn. Plus, it's just logic. We know
this guy traffic women, We know this guy had any
number of things that you could legally charge him with.
I get that he's dead, but there is a file
there of these horrors, and I think, and you could
probably I would think, just based on the events that

(25:25):
we know about, you can deduce that it involves both parties.
And people of power internationally, such that there is tremendous
damage potentially in the release of this information. Otherwise, how
would everybody, I mean, Patel, Bongino, Bondi, these are people
who hammered away it. We're going to release it all

(25:48):
of a sudden fall in line. It's again, in my view,
the Jeffrey Epstein story isn't the most important thing happening
from the standpoint of government, from this point of our lives,
from the standpoint of international relations, from the e standpoint
of the economy. But from a political perspective, it's massive.

(26:09):
And from this administration's perspective, it's massive because they're faithful
in just the way that Kim has noted. They're faithful,
usually are on board. Yes, sir, of course, yes, they're
not necessarily going to take no for an answer. I
want to talk to Dietrich about it because I think
it's a big deal. But before I do, just let

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me ask you to smash the like of button. That's
a little bit of an overview. By the way, I
do want to get into immigration. I'll get into economics
all of that stuff later, but this is where we're starting.
Because over the weekend they were on blast. You know,
they were on blast at that Charlie Kirk conference. Donald
Trump wrote this on his Truth Social what's going on

(26:56):
with my quote boys and in some cases gals. He wrote,
they're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is
doing a fantastic job. In capital letters, We're on one team,
MAGA and I don't like what's happening. We have a
in capital letters, perfect administration in capital letters the talk
of the world. Well, that's true, and quote selfish people

(27:18):
are trying to hurt it all over a guy who
never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and
over again. Why are we giving publicity to files written
by Obama? Crooked Hillary? Call me Brennan and the losers?
And then this was a post on truth Social and
Tony he got ratioed on this on his own platform, right, yes, Tony.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
So there's the likes and comments that you can do
when someone posts, and likes are good. Comments are usually bad.
So if you have more comments than likes, it's called
being ratioed, which means people aren't happy.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let's bring in someone who can at least comment on
the politics of it all. In Gary Dietrich Mark Thompson Show.
This guy is the political analyst for iHeartRadio also across
the CBS television stations, and he's here on Mondays and
What a Monday. He's chosen to join us because the

(28:24):
weekend was boiling over with a lot on Epstein and more.
How about it for the great Gary Dietrich.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Everyone, Good morning, my friend March.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Good morning Surrey. It's always great seeing you. A great
way to start the week. It's been a busy weekend
because last week we saw the suppression and the sort
of announcement that the Epstein files have no they're there
and this administration isn't going to release them because there's
really just nothing you'd be interested in these files? Can

(28:53):
you speak both to that and also what it's doing
with politically, it's just really your world politically to this
administration and to this movement of MAGA.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
Well, Mark, I.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Thought you made some important points in the media in
here that I caught, and you know, certainly let's start
with sort of fact based and let's talk about politics
fact based as far as we know, and this is
part of the challenge of this entire issue. There's supposedly
thousands of pages in these files right in the bowels
of the DOJ. No administration, no personality, no party seems.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
To be able to get access to these.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
That is exceptionally on in a Washington that these days
leaks like a sieve.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Right. I mean, so you made an important point.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
From everything we do know or at least as in further,
these people that think they know or kind of know
or know somebody that knows. This is not a uni
party issue, you know what I mean? In other words,
it isn't just one party's problem or another. It isn't
one person or another. I mean supposing there could be
as many as dozens or hundreds of names associated with
this guy Epstein. Is there a definitive unilateral one page list.

(30:05):
Maybe not, But is there information on individuals?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I think everybody now believes yes, that is true. So secondly,
the political part of it, it is a huge problem.
As you were at lead point out, Mark, I mean,
the Trump team and even admittedly by people on the
other side of the aisle, has had win after win
after win. What do I mean by that? You know,
the Iran bombing situation. Did he go exactly as they

(30:31):
want to destroy everything?

Speaker 7 (30:32):
Maybe not?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
But it was praised even in European capitals and around
the world, right not to mention in Congress. And then
you've got things like the Big Beautiful Bill. People may
hate it, but it got passed.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
That was a herculean legislative effort.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
You could go down a long list of things in
facts more conishoner when we talked about this, did that
on CNN all the wins. This right here is a huge,
gigantic pothole, most importantly for his own base.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
So when you see it playing out in his administration
with people like Bongino threatening resignation, whether a shouting match
supposedly between Bondi and Patel and Bondina, I'm sorry Bondi
and Bongino, but I mean and Patel in the middle
of all of this too, the FBI head, because clearly
the FBI head, I mean, he was saying before he

(31:20):
became FBI head. Hey, it's all right there at the FBI. Yep,
it's all right there, And damn it, we got to
release it. It's all right there at the FBI. Hey, dude,
you run the FBI. Now, let's release it. So as
far as the administration is concerned, it seems to kind
of be coming a part of the seams, and Trump's
normal ability to steal the headline with something else like tariffs,

(31:41):
which we can get to, and international policy, even the
Iran thing. I mean, it's like a like a wag
the dog kind of moment. It seems to be blunted
by how big a story this is.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's because, as you rightly pointed out more, this was
such a Maga central plant right of the Maga based
story in twenty four I mean, just beat that drum
to depth, and now it just disappears. Here's the problem
that Trump has chain of command right, it's Bondi. She
is over a lot of entities, including the FBI. That

(32:15):
means Patel and of course his deputy Bongino. So it's
been interesting to me because I was waiting to see, Okay,
where does Trump cast his lots, where does he draw
the line in the sand. From all indications, now it
looks like that's what Pam Bondy. I mean, he has
personally defended her in a variety of context, including on

(32:36):
his own two social platform. He has not done that
with Bongino. So if there's going to be anybody that
walks out the back door at this juncture, I do
not expect it to be Pam Bondy. Let me give
one caveat to all that people like Laura Lumer, right.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
People know this name.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
She's a big, big Trump supporter of being a big
social media influencer type. She's calling now for a special
counsel to investigate the lack of release of these files. Now,
that would throw a whole new level of problems in
the mix for the president, right because now we have
a special counsel investigating in part his own people, including

(33:14):
his own FBI director and ag.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
That will never happen. But that was wild to hear
Lumer make that call. You know, Tony, we should put
up in the live chat a poll who will be
first to resign Pam Bondi, Cash Battel or Dan Bongino. Meantime,

(33:39):
I wonder if you can run then I'm going to
move off of the Epstein thing. But as we've said,
it's titanic, it's huge. I want to play for Gary
that Michael wolf thing that I see in the gate
Go ahead and run it if you would. But Michael Wolfe,
who's written, as you know, he's the journalist author kind
of the Trump whisperer a little bit, was inside the
Oval for a lot of stuff, and has also spent

(33:59):
a lot of time with Epstein. That's why he's particularly
relevant on this Go ahead.

Speaker 15 (34:05):
Absolutely, and so just the background. In twenty fourteen, Epstein
asked me to write a book about him, or to
consider writing a book about him, And at that time
I said, nah, you know, I'm not sure I want
to do that. He said, don't worry about it, just
but you can come to my house whenever you want.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
There are a lot of.

Speaker 15 (34:26):
Interesting people here. I sort of conduct discussions that run
through the day. I will and I'll let you know
when there's interesting people here who you might be interested
in hearing or.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
Meeting.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So the relationship between Epstein and a lot of people
doesn't always involve these massages and this other stuff. You know,
I think that's one of the issues. Go ahead a
little bit more with Michael Wolf, if you would.

Speaker 15 (35:00):
And it was interesting. It was kind of a kind
of extraordinary window into power and influence and into this
who this strange person Jeffrey Epstein was. And then when
Donald Trump started to run for president and I got
on the Trump beat, and then Epstein became a very

(35:26):
valuable source for understanding Trump, and so I know a
considerable amount. I mean, Epstein and I spent a long
time talking about Trump, about his relationship to Trump, about
about what transpired when they first met in nineteen late eighties,

(35:48):
and then the end of their relationship over a real
estate deal in two thousand and four. But during this
period when he was this was this was I think
after he became was elected president, although it may have
been slightly Yes, I would say it was after I'm

(36:11):
not sure he was in the White House yet. Epstein,
and Epstein was a Epstein, I mean, one of his
character notes is that he took little seriously. Everything was
amusing to Epstein. And and so once once we were
we were there at his dining room table, and he

(36:31):
brought out these these uh snapshots, maybe a dozen of them,
and and they were they were of Donald Trump and
Donald Trump with many a variety of the girls who
frequented Epstein's house in Palm Beach. And there are three

(36:54):
that I specifically remember, two of Trump, of topless girls
sitting on Trump's lap, one with a trump a stain
on the front of his pants, and the girls and
three or four girls, five girls pointing at this and laughing.

(37:15):
And I assume Epstein kept those photographs in his safe,
the same safe that was raided by and emptied by
the FBI after Epstein's arrests in bad Perfect.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
That's all I wanted you to hear that there's stuff
like that potentially. Now, by the way, Gary Dietrich, I
don't know that that's true, all right. I mean I
don't just because Michael Wolfe says that he has a
lot of specificity and it feels true. But by the
same talking, we don't know that it's true. But there
probably is a lot of stuff on Trump, just because,
as I was saying, the proximity Trump had to Epstein

(37:53):
was so close for so long decades they hung out together,
I wondered, So as we wrap up our little Epstein
back and forth and the damage done, it does appear
to me anyway, and I think to most people looking
in as though those files will be damaging to Trump
just because of that proximity. He doesn't want the Trump

(38:15):
Epstein relationship, even if it was fairly innocent. I mean,
just assuming that he didn't do anything but hung out
like a rich playboy, which is what they both were.
He just doesn't want it out there. It gets in
the way of the image he's trying to craft.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, Mark, going back to your you know, our original
point on this the beginning. By all estimations, there are
maybe lots and lots of those quote unquote dossiers on
individuals right from both sides of the I mean, Bill
Clinton's name, of course, has been attached to this for
a long time. There's been a whole host of people

(38:47):
who flew on Epstein's jet. Did that have any cachet
or not?

Speaker 10 (38:51):
You know?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Is that so I don't want to get into all
the specifics about an individual Trump or anybody else, because
frankly I don't know, and you, you know, I appreciate
you're saying, Mark, the problem is that the problem is
we don't know, right and the question is going to
be do the documents get released? That's really the rub
of this whole thing. From a procedural point of view.

(39:13):
Is there some mechanism by which somebody soones or somebody
you know, something happens to force the release of these documents.
That's probably right now where we are on the political
side of it, It's a very simple political calculation. Nobody
of any stature you know, in politics, wants their agenda
sidetracked by a you know, potentially personally damaged or at

(39:37):
least a distracting story, which these typically are. Talk to
Bill Clinton about Monica Lewisky, if you want to talk
about the ultimate motus distraction that really got his own
people said, god damn off track for a year or
more in terms of their policies.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Such a great example. You know, the poll is up
in the live chat who will be first to resign? Pambondi, Cash, Pattel,
Dan Bongino. So right now, Bongino, of course, is the
odds on favorite seventy nine percent of those who have
weighed in. If you're watching live on YouTube, you can

(40:13):
a weigh in on the chat. I want to move
on to the tariffs that I think are a pretty
big deal. The idea somehow that the tariffs would be announced,
then there's a ninety day pause. Then there is this
question about what underpins the tariffs. You know, I want
to play you a little bit of from the Sunday

(40:37):
Show as Trump's people come forward to try to sort
of explain the tariffs and the president's plan and get
your reaction. Go ahead, Tony, please.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
Let me ask you about one new set of tariffs
that he announced on Brazil. Fifty percent new tariff on Brazil.
Brazil had a six point eight billion dollar surplus last year.
In fact, the US hasn't had a trade deficit with
Brazil since two thousand and seven, I mean almost two decades.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
So why why are.

Speaker 11 (41:08):
We putting a punishing fifty percent tariff on Brazil.

Speaker 13 (41:11):
Well, bottom line is the President has been very frustrated
with negotiations with Brazil and also with the actions of Brazil.
In the end, though you know, we're trying to put
America first. I think that a lot of people when
I'm talking to negotiators from out the countries, at some
point they'll.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Say, what did we do wrong?

Speaker 13 (41:29):
And what I'm trying to get. The message we're all
tried to get across is this is about America getting
yourself ready for the Golden Age, by getting our house
at order, by getting our tariff and trade policy and
tax policy exactly where it needs to be for a
Golden Age. And normally it's not necessarily about a specific country,
but with Brazil, it is. Their actions have shocked the
President at times and he's made then clear about that.

Speaker 11 (41:51):
But I don't understand how you're saying it's about America
because the president has.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Made it quite clear that what he's upset about.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
Is how the Brazilian Supreme Court has handled the criminal
case involving former President Balsonaro.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, I mean, I like the follow up, and by
the way, I'll give you his answer. This is Kevin Hassett,
who is the He's an economist, he's the National Economic
Council head. I think go ahead just to play the response,
if you would please.

Speaker 13 (42:22):
I mean with you, what I'm saying is that what
I've been saying with most countries was that it's really
about us getting the tariffs in order. And I think
that this terif for Brazil is a lot higher because
of the president's frustration with Balsonaro and the fact that
Bolsonaro himself you know.

Speaker 11 (42:35):
Anyway, But can you explain to me because I find
it confusing here on what authority does the president have
to impost tariffs on a country because he doesn't like
what that country's judicial system is handling a specific case.

Speaker 13 (42:53):
Well, I mean, how is a national defense emergency or
if he thinks of a national security threat that he
has the authority under a EPU.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
So how is it a national security threat? You know
how Brazil is handling the criminal case against this former president.

Speaker 13 (43:07):
Well, that's not the only thing.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
That's not the only thing. I mean, So what is it?

Speaker 11 (43:10):
I mean, I've asked what it is? I mean, it
seems that that's what President Trump's talking about. He's talking
about his anger and his frustration. He's been quite candid
about it with a bolsnarrow case.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Right.

Speaker 13 (43:19):
Well, the bottom line is that what we're doing, absolutely
collectively across every country is we're on shoring production in
the US to reduce the national emergency that is that
we have a massive trade deficit that's putting it at
risks should we need a production in the US because
of a national security crisis. And this is part of
an overall strategy to do that.

Speaker 11 (43:39):
But again, as we've just established, we have a trade
surplus with Brazil, not a deficit, and we've had a
surplus with Brazil for eighteen years.

Speaker 13 (43:48):
If you look at an overall strategy, if you don't
have an overall strategy for this, then they'll be transhipping
at everything else that do you wote achieve your objectives.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Okay, I'm still confused.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
But let me move on. You you see that the
two step here is pretty tough because we know that
these tariffs are arbitrarily imposed. Can you speak to two things,
the economic effects and then the political realities on this.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Well, the economic effects, of course, are being debated every
Sunday on these shows, Mark right, and by every economist,
not only in the US but globally. I mean, you
know this for the average person, I think gets somewhat frustrating.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Why because they were told back in the early part of.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
This year, Man, these tariffs, it's just inflation's going to
go through the roof and your four to one K
is going to go to the tank.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
And you know what, Mark, I have a.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Lot of sympathy for people, just the average person trying
to manage their foural one K. I mean, how about
the rush to go out and buy automobiles by families
because they were told, oh, they're going to be unaffordable
by the end of the year.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
I mean, you see where I'm going with this.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
If you get to the street level practical realities of
all this gamesman going on in the media in Washington,
I have a lot of concerns about you know, average
families just trying to make decisions for themselves and their families. Now,
in terms of the politics of this, Trump now and today,
more than ever, has made clearer why today because today

(45:17):
was his announcement that if he says now well and
in about fifty days, if Moscow doesn't agree to a
cease fire with Ukraine, We're not only going to slap
them with one hundred percent, we are going to slap
one hundred percent tariffs on anybody that trades with Russia. Okay,
that's big allies of ours, like India, who enforces a

(45:38):
huge portion of Russian oil. So my point is, and
does that have any direct economic impact on us? No,
Trump in that instance is using tariffs to leverage Russia
to get into a ceasefire with Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
So what is my point?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Trump's made clear now, Mark that tariffs, in his view,
are not just going to be and despite what his
representatives said for the Golden Age of the US, they
have a multifaceted potential usefulness.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, so you're saying it's not just about on shoring
jobs and building factories here, this is about leverage internationally.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah, that's why that's.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Why his rep had so much difficulty defending the Brazilian tariffs, right,
But I'm saying Brazil is just one example. It's come
out in the last week. Is people got what gives
with Brazil? Why is he all over Brazil? And you're right,
it's the politics, and he apparently liked the former president
Hayse Bolsonari thinks the former president would be better for
us into just longer term whatever. But the point of

(46:38):
the matter is this where they're getting stuck in the
mud in the Trump administration. Is it are tariffs just
an economic tool or that are they also a political
leverage point.

Speaker 7 (46:49):
It's looking increasingly like it's both them.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Now to immigration quickly in my last minute with you,
the later judicial ruling has enjoyed the administration from a
lot of these raids that they're doing now that seem
to be associated with you know, ethnicity and people's Look.
I mean I mentioned these things because they're mentioned in
the judicial order. The language they speak is mentioned the

(47:18):
judicial order as well. In other words, a lot of
these things that I feel it kind of underpinned all
of this. We know what they were doing and we
know why they were doing it. But I and I've
mentioned at the top of the show, you know, a
guy died in that camera real raid. I mean some
guy had been working there for twenty years. I mean
he's not you know, he's sending money back to his
family in Mexico and he's just working for all this time,

(47:39):
sending money home. The whole thing is a mess. Even
Americans gary are retreating on the notion of these sorts
of raids going on, on the level that they are
going on. So now you have the again the judicial judgment,
you have the polling that shows that is there any
chance that they'll back away. It doesn't seem like based
on their budget, they're gonnaut there. They're supercharging ice based

(48:01):
on the amount of money they've dedicated to it in
the latest budget.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Well, I think you're under a really, really important distinction
that is growing, and that is between Remember Wave number
one was supposed to be criminals, right, people that were
suspected of being part of you know, international crime syndicates
or gangs, et cetera, all the quote unquote just to
lump you know, for lack of a better term, people

(48:26):
use the term the bad guys, right, I mean the
people that are true, actual threats to Americans lives, safety, prosperity,
et cetera. Now we're moving more into these broader raids
that you're referencing, Mark, I think you're gonna see, and
we already are erosion in the polls in support for that.
The question is, and even some Republican members of Congress

(48:48):
is saying, well, you know, going after criminals, that's exactly
where we need to keep our focus. I think there's
going to be growing pressure on Tom Holman and Ice
and on the President and his administration.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
Look, keep the main thing, the main thing right now.
You can't have.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Rounded up all the quote unquote bad guys that you
claim are out there. Let's stay focused on that because
I think there are some significant potential political mindfields out
there to just you know, across the board, not random
but strategic sort of massive swat operations in factories in

(49:22):
you know, in in parks whatever. I mean, that's gonna
be The challenge is do people feel safer because of
that or they're saying, you know, this seems like a
bridge too far.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Love talking to you, Thank you for taking on all
of these things. Life is complicated, political life even a
bit more complicated, and American political life is super complicated.
So there are a lot of different interests that compete here,
and that also I think are cloudy. You know, there's
a big gray area here. There's nuance. I guess might

(49:55):
be the word i'd use, and I appreciate you helping
us get through it. Gary. Thank you. We'll look for
you on iHeartRadio and across the CBS television stations. Appreciate
you being here.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
Pew, hey, hey, Mirke.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Let me just tell you, I really commend you for
digging into these things in the depth you do, and
to your listeners and viewers for doing so as well.
You know these aren't easy to sort out. There's a
lot of issues, and you know you're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Thank you so much for that. Appreciate you. You're part
of it. Thanks Gary dietrich sre Gary and Gary comes
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Speaker 3 (51:02):
It was great.

Speaker 10 (51:03):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
How would you have this?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
We could try ignoring this, sir.

Speaker 13 (51:10):
You cannot say you love your country?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Where am I weed? Smokers at?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Stay at home and get baked right.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
On everybody, Thank you for being here. We'll take a
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to them quickly, and then I want to get a
little news in. Stuff breaks quite quickly here on a Monday.
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(51:38):
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The station folded, and you know that's why we moved
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Kgo career. I smashed it with an iron rod. Now

(52:45):
I need a new phone. Yeah, that's what you gotta
be careful on smashing it your iron rock. Don't go
two nuts. What are the titles of the books that
your father wrote? Yeah, my dad wrote a book, a
couple of books, my dad. I'll just answer this or
I can DMU stuff like that. I if you write
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(53:06):
Thompson Show at gmail dot com. My dad was a
very was a brilliant constitutional lawyer and wrote on some
very esoteric stuff, like the constitutional relationship between the US
and its territories, like Puerto Rico would be a commonwealth,

(53:27):
but like one of that relationship is a real sensitive
one with the US mainland, and you get into the
South Pacific and Guam for example, these places where we
have a military presence and there's a relationship American Samoa.
These are all places that have a complicated and really

(53:47):
sort of esoteric world of relationships with the US man.
And my dad wrote a lot about that. He also
wrote about about impeachment and wrote a book on that.
So anyway, I'll I'll get you that information. It's so
nice that you remember my dad. Brilliant guy, and his
birthday would have been coming up on the twenty seventh

(54:09):
of this month. Yeah, so that's thank you though, really
appreciate the super chat as well. Ginger macintosh, as Maxwell
should ask for a new trial. This is Gallaine Maxwell.
Since according to the government there is no evidence exactly,
there's nothing to see here, then I guess there's nothing
to see here, you know. Ginger says, I just saw
an interview with Michael Wolfe. He said Donald J. Trump

(54:31):
and Epstein were best buds for fifteen years until Donald J. Trump. Well,
let's we just ran that interview. I'll just finish it out.
Fifteen years until Donald J. Trump. She did Epstein on
a real estate deal and then dropped a dive on
Epstein's house parties. I didn't know that second part about
the house parties, but yeah, we read. We ran a

(54:52):
little bit of an interview just a few minutes ago.
Moflo says Gallaine said she'll testify before Congress. I hope
somebody's keeping a close eye on her. Yeah, she might,
you know, have suicidal tendencies. That'd be awful there she is.
She dated Jeffrey for a long time and then just
became integral, apparently to his operation. I use that in
quotes his horror show, which was really preying on underage

(55:15):
girls and trafficking them all over the world. It was
a horrible thing he was involved in. It seems as
though there were many powerful men who were also party
to this, aware of this, participants in this, and that's
why this becomes even more complicated, and there may even
be an intelligence connection. Of course, that's the conspiracy theory.

(55:37):
One of them that Gallaine Maxwell's father, who you can
look up. He died at sea. I believe, in fact,
somebody looked that up. I'm pretty sure Elaine Maxwell's father
died at sea. He was a publishing magnet. This is
my recollection, and it was always suggested he was, it
stated that, Oh, and of course everybody knows that he

(55:59):
was a MOSA agent. Everybody doesn't know that, but it
was oftentimes suggested in subsequent investigations that he might have
been an agent for a foreign power, maybe the Mosad.
Randy says, Trump keeps saying that the economy is so great,
So how can we still be under some sort of
national emergency allowing Trump to unilaterally impose tariffs instead of Congress.

(56:22):
By the way, as I was seeing that fifty percent
Brazil question revisited and we have these fifty percent tariffs
that are supposedly going to be imposed on Brazil, I
thought to myself, Yeah, how does Trump still have the
power to do this? So he has the power to
levy an import tax just because there's something going on

(56:46):
in the country that personally he doesn't like, somebody's on
trial in that country who he has a relationship with.
How is that? Okay? It's obviously not okay, But how
is it even legislatively okay? The answer is because Congress
is completely scared of Donald Trump, completely frightened. The Republican
Party is absolutely petrified of being taken on by Trump,

(57:13):
being singled out by Trump, and so he does what
he wants. But you're right, there shouldn't be any national
emergency that gives him any of this power. Tony's drop
the mic moment. I just drink. It would make a
great drop, says Wes. Yeah. When I asked Tony on
Comic Con, do you do any of the cause places? Now?

(57:34):
I just drink and.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Waiting long lines for toys I never take out of
the box.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Uh. Yeah, have you put out on the market any
of the toys that you've gotten at any of the
comic cons? Like have you you get into the No,
like you don't eBay anything or.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Nah, they're all the comic Con exclusives. A lot of
people do. I just buy it looks interesting to me,
and I take and I actually open them and take
them out and keep whatever. Go to comic just for
the exclusives, Yes, just for the exclusive merch. Yeah, you
know it is a thing a little batmobiles that was
a mess to get.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Oh yeah, it used to be that you'd have to
go into the agency to do voiceover. This it relates
to the stuff you bring to comic Con. So I
would go to the agency every day and you get
voiceover copy and you'd wait in the lobby, you know,
and wait with other actors, voiceover actors who are doing stuff,
the commercial actors. Jane Lynch was there, and Roddy McDowell

(58:32):
would come in like very occasionally, but you know, those
are big stars. The other big star who'd come in
is Mark Hamill. And Mark Hamill who played Luke Skywalker.
Of course he shows up and when people knew that
Mark was coming in, they would bring all that Star
Wars stuff and a sharpie and he would sign it
for them.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
That Batman stuff, right because he was also the voice
of the Jokers.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Right rh. I mean, Mark is so nice and he
was so completely cooperative, you know. So he'd come in
and he'd he.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Just knew as part of the gig, he's gonna be sign.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
This stuff for a while. I brought in what was that,
the Millennium Falcon. Is that what it's called?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Probably yeah, or the X wing, one of the two,
I'm sure, yeah, and Mark signed the wing of the thing.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It was so great. So anyway, I just from what
when you talk about bringing stuff to the.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
There's a long line usually a comic con for people
signing stuff. It's like, nah me and my friends are like,
now we're good.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
What's the average cost of somebody autographing something at Comic Con? It?

Speaker 5 (59:29):
I think for Hamile it's like six hundred bucks. I
think he charges each item. I think last time I checked,
a lot of them can charge a lot.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Sum are free.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
It just the person decides it's kind of their own thing,
and they have like organized meetups, like in the upstairs
area where it's like tickets to get. But then people
just have booths in the the flea market itself, because
it's Comic Con is really a flea market, Let's be honest.
And it's just they'll sign at their table and stuff
like that. So and do drawings for people and sketches
and stuff like that. Because my friends are all artists.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Tony goes for the girls shows, going yeah, the girls
who are dressed up like Princess Leiah. I go for them.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
They don't care much for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Oh my god. What All right, let's get some news
from Kim Kim. Are you on the Dan Bongino? Watch?
Are you? You'll tell us when he resigned?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
So far he's still sitting pretty at his desks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
All right. The other thing I wanted to mention is
that we have a live pole going on. If you're
just joining us and just stumbling in, you can weigh
in on who will be next. Who will resign first?
Is it Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino or Cash Patel. Well,
Bondi's ahead of Patel, but only five percent of the

(01:00:44):
people so far field Patel will be first to resign
Pam bond Pam Bondi has fourteen percent. Bongino eighty percent
feel that he will resign first.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Certainly pretty angry. Yes, he's the most vocal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
He's putting the bond in the gino for sure. Smashed
the leg button like a boss.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Do it like your iron rud.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
On The Mark Thompson Show, I'm Kim McAllister. This report
sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. President Trump is setting
a fifty day deadline for a Russia Ukraine peace deal.
Speaking at the White House today, Trump said he will
place severe tariffs on Russia if there is no truce.
During a meeting with NATO Chief Mark Rudda. He also

(01:01:52):
announced a deal to sell defensive Patriot missiles to NATO,
which are intended for use in Ukraine. The Defense Department
will be begin using Elon Musk's generative AI tool GROC.
Wait a minute, isn't that the one we had problems
with recently?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
My h oh, yeah, the antisemitic AI model. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Oops, Yeah, the DoD will begin using GROC, according to
an announcement from the Department, it's granting a contract award
of up to two hundred million dollars to AI companies,
including Musk's XAI, as well as Anthropic, Google and Open Ai.
The DoD's Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office said the
award will help the agency accelerate its adoption of AI

(01:02:33):
solutions and develop AI agents across several mission areas at
the agency. Government agencies have been expanding their use of
AI following a White House order in April promoting adoption.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
It's just wild, though, that they would go with Elons,
given the fact that Elon has been on shall we say,
adversarial footing with the President, right, I mean, they're smack
talking each other. It's a food fight, and then he
gets a two hundred million dollars deal for his AI.

Speaker 15 (01:03:01):
The only reason I'm here, I guess because you were
a friend.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yes, So it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Really strange It makes you wonder like what's really going
on on the surface versus what's going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, anyway, so that's another government contract that must gets
You're right, I mean, I think the tip of the
iceberg is one thing. What's going on below the surface
is something quite different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
The President is responding to Michigan Senator Elisa Slotkin's bill
that would require ICE officers to identify themselves and not
wear masks during enforcement operations. Trump says the freshman senator
and co sponsors Senator Alex Padia of California and Corey
Booker of New Jersey would not be saying that if

(01:03:45):
they didn't hate our country, and obviously do slot Wait,
they hate our country. If they don't want the ICE
agents to wear masks, I don't understand peculiar. Slotkins says,
the law enforcement agents have been making arrest that look
more like kidnappings in an authoritary country. The bill would
apply to ICE officers, Customs and Border Protection, and immigration
enforcement officers in the Department of Homeland Security.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
It's absolutely and we've talked about it, and I won't
spend a lot of time on it, but it's absolutely
insane that law enforcement officers of any type can show
up without any identification, any outer markings, faces covered, and
perform these arrests or any other kind of law enforcement function.

(01:04:28):
It is absolutely unacceptable. It is It is the Unamerican thing,
but it's also an illegal thing. And the fact that
we need this legislation past is pathetic. It is if
it's a righteous thing that you're doing, then let's see
some kind of identifications, some kind of marketings. Otherwise, anybody

(01:04:51):
with a van and some bodies can mask up, put
on dark clothing and start abducting people. It's outrageous. It's
absolutely outrageous.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Speaking of immigration, a federal judges blocking immigration agents from
carrying out raids in California that are based on race, language, occupation,
or location. Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nomes says that's ridiculous.
She says recent raids have been targeted against the worst
of the worst. The Trump administration has been stepping up
arrests at car washes, the home depot, parking lots, and

(01:05:25):
immigration courts and advocacy groups have filed a lawsuit last
week accusing the White House of targeting quote brown skinned people.
The dispute between the Trump administration and California's governor shows
no signs of cooling down. Vice President Vance and California's
Governor Gavin Newsom exchanging some comments over the weekend after

(01:05:46):
Vance took a trip to Disneyland with his family. Governor
Newsom responded to a video of the Vice President in
Disneyland and wrote, hope you enjoy your family time at JD. Vance.
The families you're tearing apart, cer won't Vans, brushing off
the comment, responding with had a great time, thanks, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
They were throwing at Disneyland. They were throwing ice at him,
among other things. But I mean, I don't know. I'm
sure Disney runs a pretty tight ship. I don't think
you could throw much stuff at him without getting thrown
out of the park. But apparently there were people tossing
ice at JD. Vans as he walked with his family
through Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Flooding in Central Texas prompting more rescues and evacuations over
the weekend. This comes after a deadly fourth of July
weekend where floods killed at least one hundred and thirty
people and they're still looking for the missing. The Governor
Greg Abbott in Texas said the water rescues were carried
out Sunday in three counties and that some communities were
still under evacuation orders. In Kerrville, which saw massive devastation

(01:06:50):
in earlier flooding, water was again seen rushing over city streets.
Officials in Arizona say a raging wildfire destroyed the Grand
Canyon law and dozens of other historic buildings at the
park's scenic North Rim. The Dragon Bravo fire has burned
five thousand acres since lightning started the flames on the
fourth of July. Arizona's Governor, Katie Hobbs is now calling

(01:07:13):
for an investigation into this wildfire, which completely destroyed the
lodge that originally opened in nineteen thirty seven. Park officials
noted North Rim residents and staff were evacuated before that
wire spread. That fire spread now, so it's gone that
North Rim Lodge. Bitcoin surging as lawmakers prepare to take

(01:07:34):
up crypto legislation this week. The price of one Bitcoin
rose to a high of one hundred twenty two thousand
dollars Monday morning. It's been setting new records over the
last week, with a House poised to consider new legislation
to regulate the currency. The Senate Banking Digital Asset Subcommittee
chair told The Hill she believes senators are aiming to

(01:07:55):
pass a crypto bill by the end of September. Former
President Biden is defending his use of an auto pen
while in office. President Biden telling the New York Times
he made every decision on his own. During his final
weeks as president, Biden granted clemency and pardoned more than
fifteen hundred people. The Times reports that Biden didn't individually

(01:08:16):
approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to
large numbers of people. The former president says he made
every decision. At the box office, despite some shaky reviews,
Superman was off to a pretty stellar start. James Gunn's
first entry of the new DC universe earned one hundred
twenty five million dollars in its debut weekend. That's up

(01:08:40):
a couple million from Sunday estimates. The Man of Steel
collected ninety five million overseas for a global total of
two hundred twenty million dollars in its first weekend. The
Jurassic World Rebirth and f won the movie round out
the weekend's top three at North American theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Just Tony, Yeah, it feels like Superman is one of
your things. Did you see it?

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
I'm not really interested in seeing this one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It doesn't look good in the trailers. Wow. Yeah, she's
really quite a stray.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
I'm even more scared for Fantastic four because they made
her the Silver Surfer a female.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
It's like, oh, no, silver Surfer surfer.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Because he's a dude exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
He's a white dude.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Okay, he's an alien, but he's that's what I mean.
And he's all silver, So I don't know if he's
white or not. But knowing Red, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Know if he could call him white. I don't think
you can call him white if he's but Jimmy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Shalliballa because he makes a deal with Galactus to save.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
His wife, essentially, if you wanted to get more into that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
And and now the new one, the wife is the
Silver Surfer in the new one. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I see, now we lose one. We lose one at
the turn. Apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Lastly, there is a zip lighting mishap. Yeah, this one
happened in clear Water, Florida, you know, Florida. This woman
finally back on solid ground after a ziplining adventure gone wrong.
Rescue crews say they had to help a lady after
she got stuck on a zip line. The Clearwater, Florida

(01:10:18):
Rescue Technical Rescue Team was called to Empower Adventures in
Tampa Bay to get this lady down. There's no word
on how long she was stuck, but she was eventually
lowered to safety. I'm sure that wasn't a very fun time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
All those things where you have to zipline eva or
the gondola, the gondola thing, it's all awful. But if
you're hanging there like that, that's gotta be How long
did it take them to get her?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
They didn't say how long. How long she was hanging
out there? Long enough for the people to call nine
one one, for them to get get the fire truck
out there and put the get the crane up in
the box. You know that all takes time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
That takes time, and and Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I'd be looking down at that water thinking are there
gators in there, because I want out, Get me out
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Speaker 14 (01:13:13):
Thompson, Joe Box and Little Anthony mo Black's brother Fat Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
There's a reason that this place is fun.

Speaker 12 (01:13:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Y'all can all go to hell and I'm going back
to Texas. My man.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
I'm sorry, and I wanted to apologize to the Asian community,
the Asian American community.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
You've never seen anything like it before.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Have you ever seen anything like this?

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
There is nothing in our history and wit con cares nobody.

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
Has ever quit something like mister.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Has never been anything like this.

Speaker 13 (01:14:12):
Why are you jelly?

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
Good day, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I'm loving it Monday. It's great to be with everyone
who has found us. We are a live show eleven
to one in the West, two to four in the East,
and really appreciate all the support and the love. And
we try to get you everything we can when it
comes to substance information, and of course Tony with the

(01:14:44):
magical world of comic con and superheroes and that whole
By the way, did you see that I was at
a Trevor says, I think I just invented a new
comic book character, adequate Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
He's good in.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
The I don't think that you were going to want
to read that story.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I don't know. It's kind of good enough. It has
overtones of Albert.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
It does. It has. There's a spirit of mediocrity that
sometimes runs through this show that frustrates me, but that
others rejoice in. And among the others Albert and he
may be able to audition for adequate Man. Cassandra says,
the case against Bolsonaro is ironclad final. The Brazilian Trump

(01:15:31):
will die in prison where criminals belong. Uh, Bolsonaro tried
to engineer a coup in Brazil, denying the he did.
He did a Trump routine denying the results of the election.
But uh, the thing that they did was they clap
back on him legally pretty hard. So I don't know
what Trump reasonably feels he's going to be able to

(01:15:53):
get with this move. They're not going to drop the
case against Bolsonaro, but on some level he's with this
fifty percent tariff. He's I don't know, signaling Bolsonaro and
others like him that he's on there too. I don't
get the the end game aside from the impulsive flex

(01:16:14):
which is a lot of what he does. The whole
point of bitcoin is to kill the dollar, says Christine. Oh,
this is about the bitcoin thing that Kim had that
story because we're in a weird place. Just to comment
on this briefly, in this country, we have somehow embraced crypto.

(01:16:36):
You have a crypto Tzar David Sachs now he's one
of the PayPal founders, and you have the tech billionaire
class that has moved into the White House in the
form of David Sacks and others who have embraced a
crypto world that there are a lot of questions about, right,
it's essentially a fake currency only existing in an arbitrage

(01:17:00):
kind of way, in a trading kind of way, so
that you get onto these cryptocurrency markets coinbase and crypto,
dot com, et cetera, and you are trading and looking
and working through what is a run up or a
selloff in these cryptocurrencies, and they have no relationship to

(01:17:22):
anything you can actually buy. So that's why as a currency,
it's an odd play. To have the United States embrace
it by putting together a crypto reserve is absurd on
its face. It's making somebody very rich. It's making all
these tech bros very rich because now you have an administration.

(01:17:45):
Once Trump laughed at crypto, now he's all about crypto
because the billionaire boys club that he's put around him,
they love crypto. It's a real chance to make money
through dark money back channels. And that's just the fact.
I mean, otherwise, tell me I'm open, tell me the
value of crypto. Otherwise it's a great way to shuffle

(01:18:09):
hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars, to a legislator,
to a corporate interest, to a political interest, to even
a president, without it being known, tracked, or traced. Now,
the world of bitcoin and crypto has this blockchain which

(01:18:31):
supposedly establishes exactly when a transaction happens and who was
involved in it. You can still see the blockchain, but
it's very easy now to eliminate who was actually involved
in the money transfer. But let me get now to
that comment that to replace the dollar, or to undermine

(01:18:52):
the dollar. It is true that the more this country
has faith in crypto on some level, it undercuts the
power of the dollar as the reserve currency of the world.
The reason that the dollar is so strong as a
reserve currency of the world, as I understand it, is

(01:19:12):
that we are largely a stable political system. We're viewed
that way. Our economy is viewed as a more stable economy,
and so our dollar reflects the faith that the world
has in the American economy being on the level if
you want to think of it that way. I mean again,

(01:19:33):
when you look at different currencies and those perhaps replacing
the dollar on the world stage as the reserve currency,
you have to find a currency that isn't necessarily going
to succumb to any number of things politically and internationally
that might completely throw it off kilter. The US really

(01:19:56):
is riding on rep our. Reputation is so good that
leads to the solidity of the dollar. That's why we're
the reserve currency. So the countries that want to undermine
it Iran, China, Russia, and they are working to undermine
it all the time. But those countries aren't viewed like
you certainly couldn't have Iranian, Russian or Chinese currency undermining

(01:20:21):
the reserve currency, the dollar because of replacing the reserve currency,
because they're viewed as manipulated. US as fed up as
we are right now, still viewed as the more solid
world politically and economically. And that's why the US dollar
exists as the reserve currency. But when you talk about
bitcoin and crypto replacing the dollar, undermining the dollar, it

(01:20:47):
does the more cred you give bitcoin and the world
of crypto, the more you begin to erode the power
of the dollar. Now, I'm not suggesting that it's threat
in any kind of real way, but it doesn't help
to have so much faith placed in bitcoin to the

(01:21:07):
point that you actually have a cryptoszar in the White House.
So I don't understand the policy. I think it's about payoffs.
Otherwise there's no explanation. It's about corruption.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
So pardon my ignorance, but is it is it that?
Isn't our dollar backed by something, whether that's gold or
it's backed by something, But.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
No, it used to be backed by gold, but it's
not anymore. So the answer is we're backed by what
I was talking about, We're backed by our good reputation.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Okay, Yeah, that's how we can, you know, run up
deficits and print money and there's no backing, you know. Anyway,
I just that was just a response to the comment.
I wanted to just because I'm on economic spend one
more second here and then I've got something economics related.

(01:22:00):
It's that that's rich that we were sitting hog. We
want to do it for you. So I want to
mention that Donald Trump is frustrated with the FED chair
right even though he put the FED chair guy in
Jerome Powell's his appointment. You have the video Tony that
was I think you'll find it in the rundown if

(01:22:22):
you don't. If you look in the rundown, you'll see
the video of Trump and replacing Powell, or the notion
of firing Jerome Powell. And the question came up in
the back and forth with who was that the ABC

(01:22:45):
guy he's been on the show. I read his book
and I can't remember his name, But could Donald Trump
fire Jerome Powell? And is he actually talking about firing
the FED chair because he wants lower interest rates? Go ahead, Tony.

Speaker 11 (01:23:03):
Trump Economic advisor Kevin Hasset joins me from the White
House North Lawn.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Thank you very much, Kevin for being here. Let me
ask We'll get.

Speaker 11 (01:23:11):
To Powell in a second, but let me ask you
about the new tariffs that the President has just announced
that he's going to impose on August first on Canada,
European Union in Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Why now, what's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:23:23):
Well, I think that we've got a deadline that's coming
up in early August. And the thing about President Trump,
if you go back and look at his history, that
he became one of the most successful, if not the
most successful businessman in the twentieth century because he was
able to squeeze everything out of every deal that he made.
And right now, we've.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Got do that statement go without saying it's just not true.
It's just not true. Donald Trump is a triumph of brand,
and he's not a successful businessman historically, not a successful businessman.
He's run businesses, four of them I can think of
into the side of a mountain. He's the bankruptcy six times. Now.

(01:24:02):
I understand that these are strategic things that business people do,
but it's not something that you brag about or put
on your resume. He's just not one of the most
successful businessmen in history, or even in modern history, or
even in the history of the last ten years. The
great thing that Donald Trump did was brand himself, and
then Mark Burnett came along with the Apprentice and help

(01:24:25):
with that brand, elevated that brand for the American people
to the point that Donald Trump was able to ascend
to the presidency. And that's where the real wealth is
this time around. So I couldn't let that statement go by.
I mean, I get it. These guys all have to
do the suck up preamble before they tell you something.
So that was all just part of the suck up preamble,
go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:24:47):
Deals for the American people. And we've got to see
where the dust settles. The bottom line is that he's
seen some sketches of deals that have been negotiated with
Howard Lutnik and the rest of the trade team, and
the President thinks that deals need to be better, and
to basically put a line in this end, he sent
these letters out to folks and we'll see how it
works out.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
I mean, for all the talk of deals, I mean
there was talk of ninety deals in ninety days and
then the President actually said two hundred deals at one point,
and we've really only seen really two and a half
deals we've seen.

Speaker 10 (01:25:18):
They don't believe how talks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah, that's what I was saying before. You don't have
all these deals. You have maybe something with China. You've
got one with Britain, one with Vietnam, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
And the UK.

Speaker 11 (01:25:30):
We've seen Vietnam and kind of a framework on China.
So let me ask you. What we're hearing from the
Europeans and from the Mexicans is they were in the
middle of these negotiations.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
As this was as this was going on.

Speaker 11 (01:25:44):
So is this a negotiating tactic or are these tariffs real?

Speaker 13 (01:25:49):
These well, these tariffs are real. If the President doesn't
get a deal that he thinks is good enough. But
you know, conversations are ongoing and we'll see where the
doest settles. The bottom line is that Trump has produced
a huge amount of tariff revenue with the tariffs we've
seen in the first half of the year. The Congressional
Budget Office has said the tariff revenue over the next
ten years, which will help reduce the deficit and secure

(01:26:11):
our entitlement programs, it's three trillion dollars. And consumers haven't
seen that. You know, consumer price inflation right now is
the lowest has bed in over a decade. And so
what President Trump has always said is that the foreign suppliers,
the foreign governments are going to bear most of the tariffs.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
It's being visibly seen.

Speaker 13 (01:26:27):
And I think that that's probably effecting as negotiating position
because we've got all the sypirical evidence that his position
has been proven correct in the data.

Speaker 11 (01:26:34):
Well as you know, a lot of economists say that
the inflation will be coming, and that there was there
were certainly a lot of exports that were I mean
imports that were brought in in the anticipation.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
That tariffs would be placed.

Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
But let me let me ask you about one new
set of tariffs that he announced on Brazil.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Yeah, so the Brazil thing, We've already visited those just
joining us, so I'm not going to run it again.
But I think toward the end of that he gets
to replacing Jerome Powell, and the reality is, by law
he shouldn't be able to replace your own Powell. It's
what is it a ten year term? I think for
the FED chair, I believe Kim. Maybe you can tell

(01:27:13):
me it was like a good goal, right, But the
point is, it's not the idea behind these appointments, Like
the FED share is that and the FBI head is
the same example. I mean that it's an example of
the same thing. You appoint these people and their term
extends beyond your term. The idea being that they're not

(01:27:36):
straight up political appointments, so that they are not there
to do the bidding of the chief executive. They're there
to respond with competence to various things in the case
of the FED, share with the economy, in the case
of the FBI head, with law and order and the
crises and challenges that face the legal instrument in this country.

(01:27:58):
But now he wants to replace Trump, does Jerome Powell
because he's not lowering interest rates enough. The reason that
Powell and he said this, this isn't my opinion. The
reason Powell and the Feds are not lowering interest rates
right now is because of the inflationary spiral they see
from the Trump tariffs. So all these things are related.

(01:28:22):
Yet Trump may still try to dump Jerome Powell and
get away with it. I mean he's gotten away with
a lot by.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Sa Powell's term. He has less than a year remaining
on his term. It expires in twenty twenty six, and
according to the fine AI assist tool on the Google,
the Chair of the Federal Reserve serves a four year
term which can be renewed upon renomination and Senate confirmation.

(01:28:49):
The chair can serve multiple terms, but the overall maximum
tenure as governor is fourteen years, which is non renewable.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Okay, interesting, thank you? So, uh so he's got a
year left on his.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Term under a year?

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
It must be the uh is it ten years for
the FBI had Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, the
FBI director serves a single term of ten years. Right,
wondering why I had ten years in my head? But anyway,
he made his wish.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Right, are you saying we're gonna have cash Betel for
ten years?

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Well no, I mean look at Comy. You know COMI
didn't serve ten years. You know, look at uh who
replaced comyh not Casey, but anyway, he dumped him also, right,
Christopher Ray, Christopher Ray exactly. Yeah, so yeah, I mean
it's supposed to be ten years. But again, you know,

(01:29:43):
under this administration, they do what this president wants. Anyway,
that's a little bit of what's happening with the both
with the Fed and with the economy. I think it's
a really interesting point in the development of the Trump
administration's management of the economy, if we can call it that,

(01:30:04):
because now we're six seven months in and the threat
of tariffs has been put off, the pause has been unpaused.
Now the threats re emerge. The deals that were made,
for example, with Vietnam, now look as though they may
be revisited. As I've told you before, the system here
and again you can see this. I mean, I'm just
pointing out something that if you look at it, I

(01:30:24):
think it's in plain sight. There's a system of patronage
that's been set up. Right, there's no overall strategy on tariffs.
Trump has just put these tariff numbers there. They don't
even correspond to any kind of real arithmetic or plan
or blueprint or strategy. And what he's done is he's
made it imperative that countries come to him and make

(01:30:47):
a deal individually. And that's a system of patronage, that's
a system of payoff, that's a system of taking care
of Trump and his administration. And the idea, you could say, well, Mark,
he's taking care of American interests first, is he Let's
look at the deal that he made with Vietnam. He
made a deal with Vietnam, and it was outrageous tariff

(01:31:09):
to begin with, forty six percent. And that deal with
Vietnam was mostly about Trump getting the green light to
build his resort there. So they greenlit his resort. They've
broken ground on it already. He couldn't get it done
because there are a lot of people who are living
in this area. They had to displace them. There's a
lot of environmental restrictions he had to wave. He had

(01:31:30):
to get those waved. So all that happened immediately. Because
Vietnam needs a trade deal with America, so those things
aren't related to America or American interests, right, And now
Trump is going back on that Vietnamese deal. He's going
back to Vietnam saying, yeah, you know what, we're going

(01:31:51):
to have to maybe look at making the tariffs higher.
This is again no way to run a railroad type thing.
And I'd suggest that this is all a system of
patronage such that Trump has set up the world to
come to him and make an offering. And that's really

(01:32:11):
what we're down to. So the if there's nothing more
on that, can I get to that? That's rich that
I really wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
You could do that. I also was hoping that we
could talk about Rosie O'Donnell and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Yes, what should we do first, Kim? Should we do
Rosie o'donnald and Aaron Rodgers? And then that's rich.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Yeah, let's see that, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
That will be the plan. As a spoken by Kim
from on high Mark Thompson Show, Kim, tell me about Rosie.
Don't tell me something bad's happened with Rosie O'Donnell. Talented comic,
she was a talk show host for a while. Very
talented actress. I want to say she's award winning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Rosie O'Donnell has not been the best of friends with
Donald Trump. They've had their clashes. Rosie's pretty outspoken, you know,
she calls him out and he's not like that. Over
the years, and finally Rosie O'Donnell picked up her family
and moved to Ireland and says, we'll move back when
we think it's safe for people in America. But we

(01:33:19):
don't think that under Trump. We don't feel it's a
safe place. Of course, Rosie o'donnald is gay and feels
under threat from Trump. And so now Trump is saying
he's threatening to strip Rosie o'donald's American citizenship from her
because of her comments. I don't think you can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Tony is a silver surfer going to rescue her from that.
I mean, that's a pretty big deal, having your citizenship stripped.
Do you have a picture of a Rosie o'donald Tony, Oh,
he's in middle of something now. But I would say
that Rosie having moved her family to Ireland, making a
political statement, making a I mean, I can't really argue.

(01:34:05):
A lot of people have looked at other places to
live besides America because they feel things have so radically
turned here, and she may feel threatened as a member
of the LGBTQ plus community. And thank you for that, Pale,
and then also for you've got a picture of Rosie
up for those who are just listening. And I feel
as though her community is being assaulted by this administration.

(01:34:30):
And she may be frustrated and not want to raise
her kids in that kind of environment. You know, it
may not matter so much to her in terms of,
you know, what she needs to get done, but she
really may feel as though, I don't want to bring
my kids up in this kind of world.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Here's what's right now, here's what Trump said. Quote. Because
of the fact that Rosie O'Donnell is not in the
best interest of our great country, I am giving serious
consideration to taking away her citizenship. She is a threat
to humanity and should remin and the wonderful country of
Ireland if they want her. God bless America.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Well, first of all, Bruce is saying, Bruce C. Hollywood says,
I work to ones with Rosie on suits. What a nice,
down to earth person she was. Even if she's not
a nice, down to earth person, she's a citizen of
this country. You can't just say she's an enemy of
the country. But I love in a way that he
said it, because this is what I talk about all

(01:35:25):
the time. You can't be okay with these ice raids
the way they are, with unmarked vans and unmarked masked
men coming and grabbing people off the street without any
due process, no access to lawyers, and they're just shipped off.
You can't be okay with it because this sort of

(01:35:48):
thing happens. Someone has declared an enemy of the state
and they send those same federalies to her and they
pick her up. Only she's a high profile example. They
could decide your an enemy of the state, and they
pick you up and there's nobody around with a headline
so that anybody even knows about it. They disappear you

(01:36:10):
in the pinochet way that he did in Chile.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Since when Canton Americans speak out against their government? Since
when is that's a thing?

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Here is the social post that Trump executed. She's a
threat to humanity, he said, and should remain in the
wonderful country of Ireland if they want her. And God
bless America in capital letters.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
And here's what she responded with that not taking it
lying down. Of course, being in Ireland, she's like, oh well,
let me get to my keyboard. The president of the USA,
as she writes, has always hated the fact that I
see him for who he is, a criminal, con man, sexual,
abusing liar out to harm our nation and serve himself. This,
she wrote, is why I moved to Ireland. He is

(01:36:58):
a danger sense. He is a dangerous, old, soulless man
with dementia who lacks empathy, compassion, and basic humanity. She says,
I stand in direct opposition to all he represents, so
to millions of others. You're going to deport all who
stand against your evil tendencies. You are a bad joke
who can't form a coherent sentence.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
Never wow Wow, that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Is really.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
And she wasn't done. She was not done. Mark post number.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Please let her finish.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
You call me a threat to humanity, she said, But
I am everything you fear. A loud woman, a queer woman,
a mother who tells the truth, an American who got
out of the country before you set in a blaze.
You build walls. I build a life for my autistic
kid in a country where decency still exists.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Wow, that is pretty strong. That is pretty strong. That
is Rosie o'donnald respond, girl, baby girl, Yeah, don't even
play exactly clapping back at the president. And this is
what Murphy's saying. Rosie also feels her autistic child receives
no support in the US. Interesting, and then Deborah feels

(01:38:18):
as though President Trump is still great and she doesn't
like the fact that Rosie O'Donnell puts down the great president.
Deborah says, she moved to Ireland, but yet she's still
on TV putting down our great president. Huh. I mean
it sounds to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Me like, because guess what, that's what we can do
in America.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
She's still an American, Deborah. I mean that, you know,
she's allowed. You know what I mean. You don't have
to be on the Terra firma associated with the USA
in order to criticize USA leadership. You just don't. You know,
it may be uncomfortable depending, but Rosie was hilarious on
Curb Your Enthusiasm, says Sam. Yeah, she's very funny. She's

(01:39:01):
very very funny. And uh, that's the word on Rosie o'donnald.
What's Aaron Rodgers problem?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Aaron Rodgers was at that celebrity golf tournament. I think
it was in Tahoe over the weekend, and apparently he
he hit a ball that came really close to a
kid and as he was walking by, the kid said, Hey,
Aaron Rodgers, you almost hit me with that ball, and
Rogers said, as he was walking by, almost doesn't count.

(01:39:33):
And he kept it a backing. You just almost doesn't count. Sorry, pal. Anyway,
it's one video. It's on ex Tony. I have it
right above. That's rich if you want to look in there. Yeah,
almost doesn't count. His Uh, Apparently his comment was attracting
a lot of attention on social media. People are calling

(01:39:56):
him a jackass. You know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I think it's kind of a funny. I don't I
don't like Aaron Rodgers, particularly especially over the COVID thing,
and everybody's kind of I don't know, there's just a
lot about Aaron Rodgers seems like kind of a jerk.
I don't know. He might be a nice guy and
I don't feel bad, but uh, the idea I do like,
I think that's kind of a smart ass thing to say.
It's funny, you know, I mean I'll give him credit.
You can run it. I think Tony it's it's it's

(01:40:19):
too witty. I heard it Rogers walking nuts bag, excuse me?

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Almost don't camp?

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Did you hear him? He said you almost hit me
Aaron Rodgers. He said almost doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
No, one doesn't count. Keep started walking. He's like, you
know what, yeah, almost don't camp.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Other the way he said, you almost hit me Aaron Rodgers. Uh, yeah,
that's too good. Well, fun is being had. But it
didn't play well in the in the social Nadia sphere,
did it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
No, it really didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
They're all calling him a jerk. You know, Aaron Rodgers
is an a hole. You know, we've always known it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
I mean, I guess he could have said, oh, I'm sorry,
so glad you didn't get hurt and kept walking. But
almost doesn't count works too.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Yeah. All right, let's move to a segment that we
visit occasionally on this show. We keep track of the
big money. You know, the big money got a huge boost.
I was at a dinner last night and there's a
real rich guy at the dinner and he's a really

(01:41:45):
nice guy. I always said, we're all trying to be rich. Okay,
I mean, I don't know, my race is kind of over.
But I'm just saying that, you know, in capitalist systems,
you want to do the right thing with your money,
you want to be a good person, but you also
want to come up with an idea or work so hard,
et cetera, that your work is rewarded, your idea is rewarded,

(01:42:05):
and you become wealthy also, you know. So I'm not
dumping on rich people. I just feel as though, in general,
rich people should pay taxes that are commensurate with what
they've taken out of the system, the systems that's enabled
them to be rich. There's nothing wrong with paying taxes.
So that's really where I am. So I just want
to say what I got nothing against rich people. I've

(01:42:26):
made the point before. But anyway, I want to just
go back to this dinner. So this last night, he
was telling me how the new tax system works, how
this new big, beautiful bill thing works for people who
are really, really wealthy. Now we've detailed a bunch of
this stuff on this show, and it's been detailed by
economists we've had in the show, and we'll talk about
more of it in the days ahead. But I think

(01:42:48):
this one really jumped out at me. He said, I
can buy a plane now for ten million dollars. You
might be aware of this, but I just love the
way he spelled it out. So I can buy it
for ten million. I canately put it out there. It's
my plane, and I can be a net jet, you know,
where people rent it for various jumps here and there.
So it's making money. But I can write it off

(01:43:09):
the entire thing, the ten million against my income for
that year, so I pay zero taxes on ten million
because I spent it on that plane. Yet that plane
is generating money. That's a huge reduct on a on
a bunch of stuff we talked about, and complicated or
more complicated stuff anyway to me that he was talking

(01:43:29):
about with the tax code, but it was an easy
way to realize that he said. He said, I'm gonna
pay no taxes this year. None.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
And he said that's what this new tax break is doing.
So it's against that backdrop that we do this segment.
My friends, this is that's rich. Who are they the
top one tenth of what are they like?

Speaker 7 (01:43:55):
And people are so passed and snobby nassy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
That's rich on a mark Thompson Show. Well, everybody's favorite
rich guy is Jeff Bezos. Am I rioted?

Speaker 4 (01:44:08):
You loving?

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Are you loving? You know? He just got married and
the wedding gift that he got Lauren Sanchez is something
quite special. I mean, I don't know. Maybe there are
several wedding gifts. I could suggest that the wedding itself
was a gift.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
A diamond ring, a new Mercedes perhaps.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Well, perhaps those things are all included in the marriage package.
But reports indicate that Jeff Bezos is buying Vogue magazine
for Lauren Sanchez.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
What yes, whatevery blushing bride wants.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
She was on the cover of Vogue wearing a Dulce
and Gabbana wedding gown handpicked by Anna Wintour herself, who
is the Vogue publisher right editor in chief, winter announcing
she was stepping down as Vogue editor after thirty seven years.

(01:45:09):
She's going to remain in control of global operations. The
parent company of Vogue is Conde Nast, and they've had
the magazine for a long time, since nineteen fifty nine.
And Conde Nast isn't talking about this purchase, and it

(01:45:32):
is now just rumor, but Bezos, of course no stranger
to publishing. He bought the Washington Post right that was
the Catherine Graham family owned paper for years decades. He's
one of the very few people with deep enough pockets.
And Lauren is no airhead. It's noted here she's a

(01:45:54):
sharp cookie. There have been conversations about buying Vogue magazine
for her. Tony's showing you the glamorous pictures of the
two of them, and we'll have to see what happens
with Vogue magazine and the wedding present that is to

(01:46:14):
be bestowed upon Lauren Sanchez. Meanwhile, the reviled A's owner
bought a mansion in Las Vegas. You know that's where
the A's are going to be playing. The mansion is
twenty nine point two five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
That's a pretty pricey Vegas house.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Yes, About a half a year before the A's officially
broke ground in Las Vegas for their new stadium, John
Fisher dropping nearly thirty mili to buy one of the
most expensive homes in Las Vegas history. He bought a
mansion located in the gated community within the Summerland neighborhood.

(01:46:58):
That house is inside the Summit Club. I don't need
to tell Kim or the Summit Club is she's always
hanging out there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Yeah? No, yeah, have you been to I bet you've
been to the Summit Club.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Oh, I want to go. Nothing against the Summit Club,
but I have not been in the Summer Club, which
is known as the only private residential lifestyle club in
Las Vegas. It includes a two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars fee to get in. There's an annual fee of

(01:47:34):
one hundred and ten thousand dollars, or you can go
with the flat fee of four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
That's just to be a member of the club.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
Yes, because the community association Kim in these high end
places includes access to an eighteen hole golf course, looks
for a clubhouse or the pool, dining spa recreation room.
They have on site courts for basketball, tennis, and pickleball.
You can play with your other rich friends and discuss

(01:48:11):
who is the filthiest richest person on the golf course,
or do yoga. Invite some of your just average wealthy
friends over and peacock a little bit about your place.
They have a state of the art movie theater, in
his house. Also seven bedrooms, ten bathrooms, a three car garage,

(01:48:36):
a comprehensive fitness and wellness room. This is all in
his house. More than ten thousand square feet of living
space indoors, two thousand square feet outdoors. Very few property photos,
but you can see Tony providing for you the world

(01:48:58):
that will greet you if you move in as a
neighbor of the Fishers. And only two sales have crossed
the thirty million mark in Las Vegas history, and one
was Celine Dion's place and the other the owner not listed,

(01:49:19):
but those were thirty and thirty five million dollars respectively.
Pretty wild. Meanwhile, Ivanka Trump, she and her husband Jared
Kushner have spent more than one billion dollars on an
Albanian island that will be a luxury resort. Yeah, these

(01:49:42):
rich people in their islands. Okay, tried to, but this
one is a real super mega rich offering of that's rich.
It's a small island off the coast of Albania. The
landscape is Jurassic ferns, giant lavender.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
It's a Don't worry about the giant lavender. It won't
be around for long. They're going to mow it down
and put up a Trump Tower. It's okay, who is
having that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
All of the developers are. It was really untrammeled by
development for years, Kim. But now, as you say, it's
on the verge of becoming a mecca for ultra luxury
tourism and another addition to Ivanka and Jared's real estate portfolio.

(01:50:29):
He says, before he visited the island, he thought of
just walking through the trails, climbing the mountains, the rainforest,
exploring the deep waterways, names like Bay of Paradise, Hell's Gorge,
Devil's Gulf, Admirals Beach, And now it looks like it
is a place where Jared and Ivanka can welcome their

(01:50:53):
other wealthy friends and a high end development can go
into effect and they can implement their plans to really
build it out. Good luck to Gerard and Ivanka. They
left Washington, d C. In the rear view and now

(01:51:16):
they're developing a billion dollar island.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Tony. This is the island like where you see this
straight and there's a little bridge there and it's this chunk.

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
I'm not sure I'm just doing what Google says it
is it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
I hope it is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Okay, Wow, it's it's a nice location.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Yeah, that's what they say, location, location, location.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
This is definitely the island here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Yeah. Wow, pretty nice.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
That looks like it's got a little height to it.
That other one looked like one wave. Could you know
come over and the whole place to be covered by water.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Yeah, you gotta be careful. They have experts come in
and sort of give them a sense of what's going on,
but you know, you have to when you're buying an
island like this. This is under control of Albania, and
Albania's Minister for Tourism and the Environment is part of
this deal and he's having to argue for the Kushners

(01:52:17):
making this deal. There's a lot of criticism about this deal,
and the Albanian Minister for Tourism and the Environment says,
we can't compete with Italy, Croatian, Greece and the mass
tourism industry. We don't have enough infrastructure or experience. We
have to focus on quality, on value over volume, more
profits and fewer problems. So that's kind of what he's saying,

(01:52:41):
is like, we have an interest in selling this to
them and having them develop it, and that worries environmentalists,
marine biologists. This is an area that is protected right now.
Beaches and waters within a mile a quarter of the
shore are protected with large public works, the building of docks,

(01:53:06):
yacht traffic and sewage runoff. What will happen to this
pristine environment. So this is all what's working for the Kushners.
Stay tuned. Those of you with a lot of money,
maybe you can be part of the future. And finally,
and that's rich I share this billionaires wealth surges past

(01:53:31):
six and a half trillion dollars over the last decade
real term gains of about thirty thirty three point nine
trillion for the world's richest one percent. They could end
global poverty twenty two times over with that profit. The
wealth of the world's three thousand billionaires surging six point

(01:53:55):
five trillion dollars in real terms over the past decade.
That's the equivalent of fourteen point six percent of global output.
The richest one percent of the global population has gained
at least thirty three point nine trillion in real terms.

(01:54:15):
As governments face growing calls to introduce wealth taxes on
the international elite, these figures really whip your head around.
In the United Kingdom, the number of billionaires has grown
sharply fifteen and nineteen ninety. They're one hundred and sixty
five billionaires now. And the story is the same across

(01:54:41):
the globe. Last year, you know, Spain, Brazil, Germany and
South Africa all signed a motion at the G twenty
for a two percent tax minimum on the super rich
to reduce inequality and raise public funds. But we'll have
to see if anything comes of that. There have been

(01:55:01):
calls for America and other countries to sign on, but
there has been reluctance on the part of those other countries.
And that is that rich. More on how the other
half lives?

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
If you bond just rich, crazy witch.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Next time on the Mark Thompson Show. Yeah, right on
the Mark Thompson Show. Let's just get on the pole
on the live chat. Who will resign first? Pam Bondy,
Dan Bongino or Cash Battel. Bongino seventy six percent think
that he'll be first to resign, Pam Bondy with eighteen percent,

(01:55:41):
Cash Battel with six percent. Look, the one thing I
wonder if I can play it now on the way out,
The one thing I wanted you to hear is the
way in which they want. They want Pam Bondy's head
on a plate. MAGA has turned on Bondy. So it's
interesting to me that in our poll, Bondi's only twenty percent.

(01:56:06):
Things shall resign first, and to be fair, Trump seems
to have thrown his support behind Bondy. But MAGA has
reflected in the Megan Kelly's of the world, the Charlie
Kirks of the world, they want Pam Bondi's head on
a plate. Do you have that video from the Turning
Point Usa stuff? Tony. I think he's got it. I

(01:56:30):
just wanted you on her way out here. I want
you to hear this one more time because if something
happens and the bounce hits Bondy and the world of
MAGA hits Bondi sufficiently, Donald Trump, who has thrown all
of his political capital, which is substantial, behind Bondi, all
of his support is behind Bondi, she's clearly doing his
bidding right. He doesn't want the stuff released.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
I mean, in Trump's doj there is no autonomy. It's
now become just it's another arm for him to seek retribution.
It's not this independent agency it once was. So he's
she's just doing what he's telling her to do.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
Yes, of course, Kim is exactly right, and she's a figurehead,
and they want the head of that figure Mega does.
Here is a little bit of Meghan Kelly. I want
to play a little bit more from the Turning Point
USA over the weekend their conference Go Ahead Camp. This

(01:57:28):
is a student action summit in Tampa, Florida. So Meghan
Kelly's onstage.

Speaker 10 (01:57:34):
Megan, you're hearing Aday. Nothing's going on. Has anyone been
on X in the past hour?

Speaker 13 (01:57:41):
They're happy, that's why you know they haven't been on
social media.

Speaker 10 (01:57:43):
We'll update you. Why don't you update them, Megan?

Speaker 8 (01:57:47):
Well, this is the first big scandal, i'd say, of
the Trump administration that's on Team Rational. It's not a
fake media scandal like the left tries to create for
President Trump every other day. It's one of the right
its own making, and it's not going well. And it
has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, let me just
ask you make some noise. If you care about the

(01:58:10):
Jeffrey Epstein scandal, raise your hand.

Speaker 13 (01:58:16):
If it matters a lot to you, raise your hand.

Speaker 10 (01:58:19):
So every hand of seven thousand people, everybody cares a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
I said a lot, every hind.

Speaker 8 (01:58:25):
Here's what I think is happening. I don't think President
Trump has focused on this. He's focused on a lot
of other things which are going great, and he needs
to be focused on those other things. Jeffrey Epstein's not
the most important thing on his agenda by any stretch
of the imagination.

Speaker 10 (01:58:38):
I mean, he's crushing it on the tariffs.

Speaker 8 (01:58:40):
Foreign policy just got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
If not Trump, then who, Honestly Barack Obama got the
Nobel Peace Prize after nine months in office.

Speaker 10 (01:58:48):
He had done nothing. He gave a nice speech about
Muslims and they gave it to him.

Speaker 8 (01:58:53):
So President Trump should be getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
And there's all sorts of things he's focused on. I
just don't think this has captured his attention quite yet.
But it needs to because it's starting to create a
real hornet's nest within the administration.

Speaker 10 (01:59:05):
And I've got to be honest. I blame Pam Bondy.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
That's what I wanted you to hear.

Speaker 10 (01:59:10):
I'll tell you why. Okay, I have nothing, Yes, in competence. Yes,
I have.

Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
Nothing against Pam Bondy as a human being. I was
fine with her nomination and her confirmation, and she's been
loyal to the president, and I get that President Trump
needs a loyal attorney general. Look what happened with Sessions
the first time he went away and then the next
thing you know, we had the Muller investigation.

Speaker 10 (01:59:33):
And it was a nightmare.

Speaker 8 (01:59:34):
But there are a lot of other people who can
be loyal and competent in that job. Here she is
the reason that things are unraveling around this story right
now that virtually all of the Republican Party cares deeply about.

Speaker 10 (01:59:45):
It's also true that.

Speaker 8 (01:59:47):
Dan Bongino and Cash Battel had questions about Epstein before
they took office, Okay, before they went into the FBI,
But once they joined the FBI, they said nothing.

Speaker 10 (01:59:57):
They kept their mouths shut about Epstein.

Speaker 8 (02:00:00):
Not seen them except for one joint appearance with Dan
in Cash on Fox running all over the media looking
for attention on this yes, click baity story, Who have
you seen Pam Bondy. She has never missed an opportunity
to go on television and dangle sweet nothings that might
be coming your way, try to lead you to believe that.

Speaker 10 (02:00:20):
She's got it.

Speaker 8 (02:00:21):
It's on her desk, it's coming tomorrow. You're going to
see something on Epstein. And it was a tease. So
you either believe that Pam Bondy was telling the truth
then or that she's telling the truth now, but both
cannot be true. She was either lying when she went
on Fox News all those times saying I've got it,
I've got it, we're looking at it.

Speaker 10 (02:00:40):
Wait until you see it.

Speaker 8 (02:00:41):
It's horrible, or she's lying in her two page memo
that they released on a Sunday night at the tail
end of a holiday weekend to Axios as if Axios
is where we all go for our news.

Speaker 10 (02:00:51):
Hell. No, she went to someone she knew would not
kick the tires.

Speaker 8 (02:00:54):
On the story, and without signing the memo, dropped it
in the dead of night and said that's it.

Speaker 10 (02:01:01):
Take it, take the crumbs and be happy. Refuse to
come out and give a presser. Come out to the
and give a press conference.

Speaker 8 (02:01:07):
Stand there for six hours to the point where people
are dying of boredom. They've asked all their questions. That's
how you put a scandal to rest. But she wouldn't
even sign her name to it. And I'm telling you,
I have dollars to donuts. It's going to come out
that there was internal consternation over that memo and whose
name did and did not go on it, and who
it was and was not behind it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Well, I'm sure that for a second, you have a situation,
but you can see it. I really wanted you to
hear this before the end of the show. They want
Bondy's head on a plate. And Meghan Kelly is just
part of this maga movement. You know. Oh, Trump's killing
it on terroofs, Trump's killing it on everything else. Trump's
killing it on immigration, and this idea is and he's

(02:01:49):
not really focused on this. I love that whole spin.
You're seeing spin, and you're seeing a coalition forming behind
this call for Bondy to be out. And yet Trump
and Bondi, as Kim said, Bondi's just doing the bidding
of Trump and Bondi and Trump seem completely joined. A

(02:02:10):
little bit more and then we'll finish up on it.

Speaker 10 (02:02:12):
And who was and was not behind it?

Speaker 8 (02:02:15):
And so now you have a situation where her words
on the record on Fox News are diametrically opposed to
what she put in this memo. She's embarrassed the president,
She's embarrassed herself and Dan and Cash to the extent
they've had to sign off on that. Let's understand, the
FBI is controlled by the DJ. FBI is subservient to DJ.

Speaker 10 (02:02:35):
She's their boss. That they're in this position where the.

Speaker 8 (02:02:39):
Only comments they've made on the record as administration officials
have been we don't think he killed himself, and we
don't think he got murdered.

Speaker 10 (02:02:46):
We think he did kill himself.

Speaker 8 (02:02:47):
We've looked at the tapes, and Cash to Joe Rogan saying,
if I saw all these tapes, so Jeffrey Ebstein with
little girls, trust me, I would show you.

Speaker 10 (02:02:55):
But I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (02:02:57):
So what they're saying now is consistent with what they've
said since they joined the office, and that is one
of the many reasons why this scandal is squarely on her.
And I'm telling you, I'm of the cable news universe.
I've seen it happen a million times.

Speaker 10 (02:03:11):
People get thirsty.

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
Yeah, that thirst will engulf Pam Bondy and eventually Trump
may have to throw Pambondy to the crowd. But this
is a real problem, and I'm glad you could see
a little bit of it play out. It's the thirst
she's talking about, is that they want something on Epstein.

(02:03:39):
You cannot say nothing to see here and just keep walking.
And so there's calls for a special prosecutor. I mean,
Trump does not want a special prosecutor on this. He
wants an investigation with a small eye. He wants a
fake investigation if he wants anything, maybe that's the way
they'll handle it. But one thing they won't do is

(02:04:00):
impanel some real investigative body to look at the Bible. Look,
you've got the fbfing I on this. You don't need
any more investigative bodies. You've got the investigation, You've got
the answers, you know what they are. And your crowd
so wedded to this idea that it was a deep

(02:04:21):
state conspiracy. They want the transparency that you promised Trump, Maga,
et cetera. You guys run it now, are you the
deep state? It's wilde It's wild to see. And because
this is going to happen, the way in which they'll
try to somehow pin it on Biden, you know, or

(02:04:42):
the Democrats but the Epstein scandal has extended over two administrations,
Trump one, Biden and now Trump two. So Trump, you
have the power to release this stuff and you're not
doing it. And there's got to be a really good
reason why. And I'm sure that they're powerful people on

(02:05:02):
both sides of the Aisle GOP and Democrats that are
involved in this stink. And I'd also say it's an
international scandal. Clearly there are other things going on here
besides just the sex and these high profile political figures
and Trump, just to reiterate last thing, super good friends

(02:05:25):
with Epstein, not saying he was involved in anything bad.
They were just rich playboys maybe, But Trump was certainly
an adjunct to Epstein for long enough that there's a
lot of Epstein's stink that's on Trump, and that's a
problem for him. It's gonna be a problem for him politically.
Keep the world safe for mediocrity, average man, says Jim

(02:05:47):
Eaton with a two dollars super chat. Yeah, thank you. Anyway,
that's the world that's I wanted you to at least
see a little bit of that when it comes to
Epstein and when it comes to the calls, and when
it comes to your vote in the live chat. That's
what really go I me off on. It got me thinking, yeah,
you'd be surprised, Pam BONDI may be first to resign,
but I think right now odds on favorite is Bongino

(02:06:09):
tries to scurry back to his podcast and get back
to his big bang in life. Talking about the deep state,
the Lady Beatrice with a ten dollars super chest says,
this big beautiful bill is a big, ugly mess. Who
the benefits only the rich and the Senate had no
guts to say, too many Americans and depend on depend

(02:06:31):
on this. We're not passing this. Yeah, I agree. And
the handouts to Lisa Murkowski were obscene, not unprecedented, but obscene.
And there is no soul in what was already a
fairly solis institution of the Senate. Lauren and Bezos said,
Lady Beatrice, Oh, his kids an apology. He doesn't have

(02:06:55):
the decency to invite them to the wedding.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
So I looked this up and apparently there were no
cell phones allowed at the wedding, and so there are
very few pictures. They're not saying publicly whether or not
his children were there. The thought is that they were.
She has publicly said that her kids were there, but
he hasn't said that his kids were there. But he
tries to keep them out of the spotlight. So perhaps
they were there and we just don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
No, I see, so we don't know that they were there.
Cash Mittel looks like somebody just told him. Cash Bettel
is out of the FBI. What Luis says, I try
to escape MAGA experience by tuning into the FIFA Club
World Cup. But alas there was d media whore and

(02:07:40):
chief Hohr in chief handing Chelsea their trophy hashtag no shame. Yeah,
there's the picture. Donald was on stage with the Chelsea team. Now,
typically it's not the president of the United States or
president of the host country handing this out. Tony, you

(02:08:00):
know more about this stuff than I do. But uh,
I was told that that was somewhat unusual that he
was on stage.

Speaker 5 (02:08:05):
I mean usually it's the like the head of the
league usually right, But since it was done here, I'm
guessing that's why they did it and whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Yeah, I was, yeah, but that was why he was
booed pretty soundly and roundly. And we would have played
it for you, but will be demonetized, so the it's
all a distraction, says Linda while screwing the middle class
so disgusted Michael with a Tony announcement about the Silver Surfer.

(02:08:40):
The culture Blaster says, Tony should be aware that shall
a ball, Let's go the Silver Ready. Great Love was
empowered to be the Serfer her for a time in
the comics, so her portrayal in the New Fantastic Four
movie is comic, I.

Speaker 5 (02:08:57):
Think, not necessarily. I don't like that argument, And I'll say, why,
we're talking about ten pages in a what if book,
not nineteen sixty eight to nineteen eighty run of Silver Surfer,
the Herald of Glackness and all that stuff. No, no, no,
we're talking about they did the Disney era too, nineteen
and two thousand ninety nine or two thousand and ten
pages is where they made a what if book and

(02:09:20):
just did a After had a forty year run, they
were like, hey, let's just do something fun for the
for another book, and they just made Shala Ball the
Silver Surfer, Like whooh, look we did something different. Yeah
it if you're good, it's you. You had one chance
to do the story and you chose this story, you
chose this version, you didn't do the real version of it,
and there's no going back.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
Tony does not approve.

Speaker 5 (02:09:42):
No, it's the one reason why I'm not going to
this movie now, is honestly this that that's the reason
why I'm not going to see this movie.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
Tony throwing down.

Speaker 5 (02:09:50):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:50):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (02:09:51):
Silver Surfer is one of the big deals of like,
you just don't mess up conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Uh, this is Louise Jay Epstein conspira. He staked his death.
He's secretly a Biden clone wearing a mask. There was
never an Epstein, so there is no list hashtag conspiracy idiots. Yeah,
move along here, there was never a never a conspiracy.
Randy says on the immigration issue, it would be easier

(02:10:19):
to just have everyone here illegally pay a fine to
port the real criminals and have them get in line
the back of the line for citizenship. Yeah. I mean, look,
I mentioned the Brassarro program over and over again. I mean,
there's so many ways you can handle this apart from
the way that they're handling it. How much does Mark
Thompson charge for his signature It is currently free? Yes, yeah,

(02:10:40):
how about that? Rosie is on Faia, says Cassandra, ain't
it true? Well, as you really took on the Trump
and a big, big wire. Well, thank you everyone. Tomorrow
brings the return of David K. Johnston to the show,
and I'm I can forward to that. We will also

(02:11:03):
see if the day's news brings any change in the
world of the maga verse. I don't know. Last check
of the poll shows that everybody still thinks that Bongino
is going to be pretty much headed out.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
Emergency doctor Rob Davidson Davidson on the show to.

Speaker 1 (02:11:25):
Market we have we have Rob Davidson on the show
to Mark, Yeah, and remind me.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
He's an emergency doctor. He'll be talking to us about
health things.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
Oh yeah, the health of the state of the health,
the state of the of illness in America. I love you. Sorry,
I lose track of the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
David K. Johnston, David K.

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
More for the Mark Johnson Show.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
It's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:11:50):
Thank you, Shuttle, Thank you Kim. Go to your rough
to pottery. Thank you Tony. Thanks every much to tomorrow.
Bye bye.

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