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September 19, 2025 143 mins
It’s a wild ride in the United States with cancellations, firings and censorship becoming hallmarks of the Trump administration. On the heels of holding FCC approval hostage unless late night host Jimmy Kimmel was silenced, Trump is threatening to pull licenses for any network that gives him bad publicity. Will major news agencies be able to function without the ability to tell the truth, whether it makes the president look good or bad? We will talk about it with journalists Michael sure and Jim Avila as we look at “This Week in Politics.” A CDC advisory panel is recommending restricting access to the MMRV vaccine. We’ll talk about it with Dr. Rob Davidson. He is an emergency physician and Executive Director of the Committee to Protect Healthcare. You can also find him hosting the Paging America podcast. Everyone in the camper, we’re headed to Florida for some much-needed levity. For a fabulous Florida never disappoints. Then it’s off to the movies with The Culture Blaster, Michael Snyder.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, I must be honest with you. There is
no adulation like like recorded adulation.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm humbled, and indeed, might I say honored by your
brief In fact, all two brief applause. It is our
Friday show. We are live across the globe from eleven
to one on the West coast of the United States,
and from two to four, how about the East coast.
Shout out to the East Coast, Yeah, and every place

(00:37):
in between. Happy Friday everyone. Indeed, Kim is here, keep
us honest. She does her job, that's right. Kim doesn't
like to take it from anybody. She get all that
built up resentment. God knows why, but man, she's gonna
take it out on us how And meantime, Albert is

(00:59):
here as well. Albert, thank you. And Albert is just
waiting to go play golf, is really what he's about. Yeah,
he's working golf games in between his gigs. We're just
happy that we're one of them. So yeah, let's get
it on everybody. Too much fun in the New America.

(01:22):
Oh my gosh, it is just great. We'll share with
you the thoughts and reflections of so many, so many
have been already cowed by the new American administration. I mean,
they're not even a year into office, and everybody just
can't wait to collapse and do whatever they want. Please

(01:43):
don't hurt us. Seems to be the I would say
it's the adage of the day. I'm reminded of the
way that law firms and media companies have collapsed in
fear and perhaps legitimate fear, the rising power of the

(02:04):
administration on total flex We'll get into some of that.
Abba Lashore come by in the second hour. Yeah, bottom
of this hour, Doctor Robb joins us. Doctor Rob is
someone who might have some thoughts on pretty substantial news
that came out of the CDC this week. RFK Junior
and his band of addie vaxers. They have revised the

(02:28):
children's schedule for vaccines. So that is both big news
and important news, and lastly news that I personally would
like to have re explained to me by an actual physician.
So don't go to RFK Junior's office if you want
an actual position. No, no, no, you got You'll come

(02:49):
here and we'll do that. Bottom of the hour. Yes,
Albert has curated Friday Fabulous Florida Today on a ten
scale of Albert being, oh my god, I have just
seen my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in Friday Fabulous Florida.
I never need to see another Friday Fabulous Florida or

(03:14):
hear another Friday Fabulous Florida. That's ten or one, which is,
oh my god, that was awful, total waste of time.
I can't believe that Albert would even run those stories.
Where is it on that scale of one to ten.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
At least six, probably six in true.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Albert Cassen six?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Nice Albert, would you evaluate your your general work first
here on this show and then at your other job.
We'll start with your other job, your other job which
makes up the line's share of your income and gives
you all kinds of benefits. On a ten scale, which

(03:58):
is I work tirely, never stop, always thinking of new
ways that I can help my job, things that they
may ever been thought of, and contacting supervisors and other
administrative people to tell them all the great ideas that
I have for my job. And one being that would

(04:18):
be ten. One is I barely show up. I show
up late a lot, sort of get my job done,
but barely. I'm always flirting with probably being let go. Okay,
that's one. I told you what ten is on a
ten scale. How are you at your other job?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm probably like a nine and a half closer to you.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wow, is that right?

Speaker 6 (04:39):
What's pretty important? That's pretty important at that other job?

Speaker 7 (04:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Wow, that is that's impressive. Albert is a nine and
a half at his other job. So now to your
side hustle, which is this job? Ten would be I'm
always looking for stories, pieces of video that I can
push to mark, maybe things that I've read. I'm always enterprising,

(05:05):
new ideas, maybe a new franchise for the show. That
would be ten. One is I show up late? I
barely do anything. I blast through stuff forget to do
things all the time, misspell stuff, don't care on my
way to the golf course. That would be one. Where
are you on the ten scale for this show?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'd say, what did I What did I make on Florida?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Six?

Speaker 4 (05:28):
It consistent? I think I'm a six here?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh my god?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Which is above average? C is a five?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
So yeah, yeah, I guess. I don't know. I was
really hoping for a seven, to be honest, but I
couldn't even remember.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Some days are seven. Some days are seven. Today I'm
feeling like a six, so I got to be step
Bart Albert.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Thank you some days are a seven. There we should
get a shirt that says some days are a seven. Yeah,
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Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yes, ma'am, I emailed uh did a personal response to
a listener last night.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
As a matter of fact.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Wow, Yeah, this is a note from Thomas, who sent
us a really nice message saying that he was banned
from The Mark Thompson Show for admittedly some out of
control anti Trump posts in the chat. Oh, he said,
I'm mistakenly thought your channel was MAGA. I have since.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I have since.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, I have since subscribed to your show and I
find it very serious and insightful. I would like to
be able to.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Dopate in the chat conversation you have.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
My promise to be civil. He wrote, please unban me.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Wow, So you had to unbann him.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
It was a very thoughtful note. So I did. I
found his name in the banned list and I unbanned him.
I'm giving him a second shot.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
A second shot from Kim is very hard to come by.
How are you watching? Yeah? Yeah, she's a I'm usually
the one going, don't you think we should let this
person out of the you know whatever is YouTube jail?
And Kim's like, I don't think so. I mean, I
think he was early, early, rough. I don't know. He
may insulting other people in the chat. I think you should,
he should, he should stray out. I was like, all right,

(08:49):
I don't know. It's uh.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I want to know how he thought this was a
maga show.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
What few minutes of the show could he have possibly
witnessed to think that he sounds repentant? Says the lady Bid. Yeah, yeah,
but I will remind you in the first week of
this show, and then I want to get into stuff.
We got a lot of stuff to get to. But
in the first week of the show, we were given
a strike. Now, when YouTube strikes a show, it's a

(09:18):
big deal. It means that you're promulgating or putting out
through your show something that's really heinous might be the
wrong word, but unacceptable in the YouTube community. So they
said that we said that the twenty twenty election was
not legitimate, which of course we would never say. In fact,

(09:41):
we had just the opposite view day after day after day.
So we were wondering how could they possibly have gotten
that notion. This is a pretty serious thing. The show
was just beginning. It was our third or fourth show,
like we're trying to get off the launch pad, and
this thing happens where they misinterpret something said. It's all

(10:01):
done by AI, artificial intelligence.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
So what they have with YouTube is they have a
thing where you can appeal for a person to actually
review the show to evaluate whether that was indeed a
legitimate strike or whether it was not. So I appealed
and the person, Now this goes to how much they
actually listened or watched. They upheld the AI, which is crazy.

(10:26):
I mean again, we would never ever say what they
said we said, and yet the person so on this
channel we have that we're carrying that it is our
scarlet letter, even though it was completely but that's the
power of AI and then a person doesn't overrule it

(10:47):
and you end up screwed. And that can apply to
any number of things because everything's being done by AI
review now right your healthcare they're talking about Medicare submissions
being all sub subject to AI review. So anyway, that's
our little history there, And congratulations on being unbanned. Whoever
you were, Thomas, I guess he said his name was

(11:08):
Ray m Hill. Ten dollars for Albert's absolute ten. Big
shout out, big shout out Ray, Thank you for the
super chat. Lucy mccallisher, my favorite McCallister into the supersticker
today with a twenty dollars supersticker. Thank you so much,
so much. I also want to just say that we

(11:29):
are live with superstickers and superchats throughout and those of
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part of things that way as well. Stinky Charcoal, who
joins us from the United Kingdom, just got back from

(11:52):
the battle cruiser. Have a jolly smashing weekend everyone. Oh,
and good luck America. Yes, a good luck indeed is
what we'll need. Thank you so much, Yes, thank you
so so much, brothers and sisters across the pond. I
have stuff from Air Force one when Donald Trump was

(12:13):
returning from his meetings there. Very Uh, I would say
broadcaster centric because it's all FCC and the control over
media now as a part of the new America. And uh,
we'll share some of those thoughts. It's interesting that the

(12:35):
the right in America is so much about wokeness and
about you know, uh, the government's control of so much.
And you know, even Alex Jones used to, you know,
warn of the government and troops in the streets and
all that this is what we're seeing. I mean, you
can't find me a part of American life where the

(12:57):
government's hand isn't heavily involved in what's happening everything from commerce,
where you'd normally find under traditional GOP administration. Right, I mean,
the tenants of conservatism are free market, leave the government
out of it, less regulation, fewer taxes, and let the

(13:20):
market decide. Now you have very much the government it's
hand on the scale. You have a shakedown essentially of
Intel to actually take a piece of the company if
they want to do business in China. You have the
takeover of TikTok by an American businessman, Larry Ellison and
a small consortium of other billionaire business people essentially being

(13:44):
gifted this huge social media platform. I mean, it goes
way beyond that. Will you then end up with Jimmy
Kimmel and the fact that you, based on the fact
that you don't like being mocked, you're the president, and
you don't like the mockery, you insist that there be
a way where this guy is removed, canceled, deleted, And

(14:09):
so they find it through government control. Government leans on
the stations, in this case the next Star stations, the
Sinclair stations, to not run Jimmy Kimmel. They should be
as outraged as we are in the government. And if
they want their merger to go through, they will play ball.

(14:33):
And so they did. And as to Disney, they have
their own acquisition underway. They're trying to acquire a streamer
for sports and if they want that acquisition to get
approval from the FCC again from the government, then they'll
play ball. And well Lo and behold, Jimmy is removed,

(14:57):
and there is no Kimmel Show, and it though there's
even going to be a war on the other late
night comedians, and Colbert of course, is already a casualty
of everything I just mentioned CBS and Paramount wanted their
merger with sky Dance. There are big things going on
when it comes to mergers and acquisitions, and they also relate,

(15:18):
as I mentioned to you yesterday with Larry to Larry Ellison,
the guy who's getting TikTok, he's going to take over
or want CNN Discovery that whole. He's going to arguably
be more powerful in terms of control and in terms
of reach than Rupert Murdock is. So that's a little
of what's happening in the New America Mark Thompson Show.

(15:43):
I did you see the twelve foot golden Trump bitcoin
that was placed outside the Capitol last night? I didn't
do we have Is there a picture of that? Roll seven?
There is actually here is I mean, there's a lot
of trolling that's going on. Here is the picture of
Donald Trump holding his bitcoin. I mean, sadly it's right

(16:08):
on Q. I mean Donald Trump and the advent of
crypto has become an overnight billionaire for real. He's padded
billions of dollars onto his bottom line as a result
of the meme coins, these meme coins that he's created.
And of course the platform which is run by Whitkoff,

(16:32):
who's handling. Whitcoff was Donald Trump's golfing buddy. He's the
real estate empressario billionaire, right, no background in diplomacy. He
handles all the diplomacy for negotiations around Russia, Middle East,
et cetera. And his son and the Trump son run

(16:55):
the platform on which you can buy any crypto you
want and all the Trump crypto and crypto related items
like mean coins.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
So can I just say this is twelve feet tall.
It's a twelve foot tall statue funded by cryptocurrency investors,
and the whole point of it, they say, is to
provoke dialogue about the intersection of digital currency and traditional finance.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
So this isn't a troll? Is Donald Trump? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yeah? It was unveiled strategically time to align with the
fed's announcement, as it highlights Trump's outspoken support for cryptocurrencies.
It's in the Capital, twelve foot tall gold statue of
Trump with his bitcoin.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, this again is not a troll. This is to
honor this president who's done so much for crypto, and
he's taking crypto regulators away, So you know, there's no
regulator now for crypto, which is a world of moving
money around through and from dark money sources. So again,

(18:06):
you may be into crypto. I know a lot of
people have been a fortune off of crypto. I was
just talking to one of them last night. But I
think it worth noting that the world of crypto is
the dark world, which does provide a pipeline for moving
money all around the world to and from sources that
can be super questionable. Again, that doesn't mean that everybody

(18:27):
knows crypto it falls in that category. I'm just saying
it's an awfully neat way to money oneself. Now, in
the case of Donald Trump, I'll just quickly say, as
you're aware, I believe it was the UAE that bought
two billion dollars worth of the meant on that platform
that I mentioned, the one created by Whitcoff's son and

(18:50):
the Trump family. So there's money to be made on that,
which is kind of like an e trade. Think of that,
or Charles Schwab so every transaction there's money to be made,
So the Trump family makes money either way buying or
selling of the meme coins or other crypto on I
think it's called world liberty. So well, that's really great.

(19:12):
I mean, with that statue there, it renews my faith
in the crypto world and the judgment of our great president.
I do have a setback for Donald Trump. There is
a setback for Donald Trump. I know, I know, it
seems incredible. I'm not happy about it either. I'm not
happy about my Lord and Savior, Donald Trump being rebuffed

(19:37):
by the courts. But the courts have rebuffed Donald Trump,
and I feature it and it is our featured story
in Law and Disorder.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
In the criminal justice system.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
The people hemp addicts, thieves, bums, lianels, girls who can't
keep on address, and men who don't care.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Are represented by two separate and equally important groups.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Put a bull of Dick John Law.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
You're the fuzz, the heat, You're poisoning, your trouble, your
bad news.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
These are their stories. This is from Reuter's. A federal
judge today just moments ago struck Donald Trump's fifteen billion
dollar defamation lawsuit down against the new York Times over
its content. The content of the suit called decidedly improper.

(20:28):
US District Judge Stephen Merry Day in Tampa, Florida, this happen,
I know that's his home court. He said that Trump's
complaint violated a federal civil procedural review requirement, which is
that a short and plain statement of why he should

(20:51):
prevail should be what accompanies the suit. A complaint should
and this is a quote from the judge, fairly precise, directly, soberly,
and economically informed the defendants of the nature and content
of the claims. A complaint is not a public forum
for vituperation and invective to dang words, and not a

(21:16):
protected platform to rage against an adversary. Mary Day did
give Trump twenty eight days to file an amended complaint
of no more than forty pages. The White House and
Trump lawyers not saying anything in response to this development.
We told you yesterday about the fact that in this

(21:39):
complaint there is just a screed that goes on about
Donald Trump being this aggrieved party from the New York Times,
which talked about his bankruptcies, talked about the fact that
he'd inherited all this money and lost. It talked about
The Apprentice and how it had reconstituted the image of

(22:00):
Donald Trump as a successful businessman, and it had successfully
done that to the point that he was able to
use that image and actually gain the presidency. I'm sort
of summarizing, obviously what they were saying. So Trump in
the lawsuit, he's saying this in the complaint, he says
through his lawyers, and it was Donald Trump that was

(22:22):
responsible for the success of The Apprentice, not Mark Burnett
as host and producer. It was Donald Trump who was
successful as a producer and a host, to the point
that The Apprentice was a number one show on NBC.
I mean, this is the stuff of ego, right.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
It sounds like a festivus general airing of grievances.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Thank you. It is very festivus like. So the judge
in this case says, no, that's not what a lawsuit is.
You have twenty eight days to actually present a reasonable
legal complaint. Otherwise this is over, and that is law
and disorder.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Tune in again next time for more law and disorder.
I'm a Mark Thompson show.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
All right, that's it, let's roll.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Hey, let's be careful out there. Wow, I want to
acknowledge Deb Stevens. Come on, Deb Stevens, a one hundred
dollars super chat man. That is so helpful to our show,

(23:31):
which is hanging by a thread. And I really is
cry territory, Mark Kim Albertontoni. Here's for yesterday's demonetized show.
Keep preaching the good word. We needed you. That's so cool.
Thank you so much, Deb Stevens. Very generous and very
generous of Gloria Brown. Come on, big shout out, big
shout out to Gloria Brown with a supersticker for fifty dollars. Wow,

(23:55):
you guys are just awesome. Thank you. Hey, I wish
we didn't need you to help prop us up, you know,
but that's just the nature of this independent media forum
that Lady Beatrice says, never mess with Sullivan versus New
York Times. Just some advice for the Emperor. Yeah, well,
uh that was old school thinking. Now it's now it's

(24:18):
the New America and Donald Trump takes every bit of
media on. So all right, we are we are continuing,
and I believe Mark Thompson Show. I believe I have
a distinguished guest joining. This guest is someone who's a
real doctor er, doctor uh, and I will get back

(24:43):
to Kimmel. I'll get to a lot of the other
news of the day. Obviously, there's some substantial news that
is related to the military. I'll get to that. But
right now, Uh, here's the West Michigan Er physician, executive
director of the Committee to Protect Healthcare. He's Uh. For
those who watch the show every day, you may recognize mean.
He's a returning contestant. He's spent a countless hours and

(25:06):
shifts in the er during the pandemic. He's a great
outspoken advocate for healthcare in America and can give us
a window on what's happening with healthcare in America. Now,
how about it for doctor Rob Davidson. Every one, Hello, sir, Yeah,
it's so good to see you again. I really wanted

(25:26):
to get you on this week with the developments at
the CDC, so we can start there and broaden if
you'd like. But give me a state of the state
on this new CDC guidance when it comes to childhood
vaccine schedules.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
I mean, I think the state of the state is
complete confusion. Right This ACID panel acknowledged I saw it
in the press today that they're new at this and
they don't know what they're doing, and that really is
what has transpired over the last couple of days. I
think today's still going on. But yesterday they spent a
lot of time talking about the hepatitis B vaccine given
to neonate in this country has decreased the number of

(26:04):
children with hepatitis B from around twenty thousand back in
I think nineteen ninety one. Two decades later, there were
twenty cases like that's you can't find numbers like that.
You couldn't make it up right, And it's so significant
because it's fewer kids getting liver cancer, permanent infection, lifelong infection,

(26:24):
liver transplants. And so they talked a lot about this.
They had some advisory folks there saying this is not
a problem, this is settled science. And in the end
today they voted I think eleven to one to table
the motion to actually vote on it. So they're not
even going to make a decision because I think they've
realized they're in over their heads on this, right. It's

(26:46):
a problem when you have a group of people coming
in with an agenda and then they're presented with actual data.
Maybe for the first time in their lives. I don't
know certainly the first time so publicly, so they did that.
And then the other thing they did is sort of
indirectly going after the meats with mumps and rubella vaccine.
There's a combination shot MMRV where you combine that with

(27:08):
the chicken pox vaccine barricella, and what that does is
it saves the kit a shot, right, so they get
one less poke when they come in at one year
and then again around age four. So and you know,
only about fifteen percent of parents do that. Anyways, they
kind of prefer to stay with the old, tried and
true mmr tiny little increase in having fever and maybe
even febril seizures, which I can tell you after twenty

(27:31):
five years in the er of febril seizure looks scary.
It is only a manifestation of fever in a small child.
It really doesn't result in any damage. It's not life threatening,
it's not anything parents should be terribly concerned about. But
they anchored on that as the only bit of evidence.
It's a tiny uptick, a statistically significant uptick in that,

(27:53):
and that is why they now have essentially not recommended
the MMR V that combination doesn't them out too much.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
The MMR vaccine generally was seized upon by many anti
vaxers as containing I think, and they don't even use this.
I think. It's been a long time since this tamerisol
as I recall was added. That was sort of seized
upon as it got out of the zeitgeist, right MMR
I heard it as a problem, et cetera. But that
that has been reconstituted now is so much safer vaccine?

(28:24):
Is that my understanding?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Well, it wasn't not safe even with the different type
of mercury than mercury poisoning. I mean, the mercury we
should worry about is the mercury and fish right from
cold fired power plants. That is where people get the
mercury toxicity. You see. I had a patient who was
eating tuna during the pandemic, thought he was being healthy,
ended up with mercury poisoning because he was eating like
ten cans of tuna a day. And so this is

(28:46):
what we should be worried about cold fire power plants,
not this different version of mercury that was in there.
But they got rid of it anyways, because there was
so much concern and confusion. But I think what these.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
To stop you there, Rob, because I think that's a
version of what we're seeing now. That's why I wanted
to start, and that is you're saying there was so
much bad publicity. In effect, there was so much messaging
around mercury that they literally had to take it out
even though it wasn't producing any kind of ill effects.
It was a different kind of mercury, right.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Absolutely, absolutely, And that's part of the game plan for
RFK and the anti vax bunches, just to you know,
kind of make it all murky and money so people
don't know what to do. And a certain group of
parents are going to be confused by this and choose
not to protect their kid, not because they're bad parents
or they don't love their child, but because they're getting
these conflicting messages from the US government, from the ultimate

(29:40):
sayer of healthcare policy in this country. It's pretty sad.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So on some level, what's happening you're saying at the
CDC and with these people who are now instead of
on the outside screaming about government, now they it's the
dog that catches the car. It's like, uh, but I
don't know how to drive this thing. And that's really
being played out you're saying in the public as well,
where the public goes. I don't know now whether these

(30:08):
vaccines are safe or not. I guess it's just easier
not to mess with them, you know, and then you
end up with the kind of illnesses re emerging that
you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Absolutely, Yeah, I think that's we're looking at, you know,
in the next ten to twenty year horizon, a lot
of illnesses we've never seen, to people coming up in
medicine having to learn things that they've never learned or
never seen before because they start to re emerge.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wow, it just it feels as though we're just taking
such huge strides back. Yeah. And when it comes to
science and medicine, I always feel as though that's a
general evolution that only gets better. That's the great thing
about science, you know, you guys build on discoveries of
the last generation, of the last year, et cetera, and

(30:49):
you can refine treatments and vaccines. And I just think
that's the exciting part of medicine absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I mean, you know, we're I think physician means I'm
going to skip back on that, but it is it
is the practice of medicine lifelong. If you are learning,
we do learning, you know, continuing medical education every year.
It's required of us to keep our licenses and to
keep our board certifications in every specialty because medicine, you know,
the data changes and we change as a result of it.

(31:19):
We don't become fixed in a belief system. And that's
what people expect of their physicians, and it really is
what we should expect of the agency tasked with, you know,
promoting health in this country, and they've kind of abandoned that.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Albert, can you rally for a doctor? Rob and myself?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
The Susan monorazuh testimony that the part we ran it yesterday.
I think you can just probably find it on yesterday's
show if you want to or whatever. I just want
to get your reactions. We'll get to it in the
second one. Albert gets it, gets it organized. But I'm
I'm concerned about what's happening at the CDC. I mean,
you really that's kind of what we're talking about and

(31:58):
and public policy really, but extend that if you would,
to things that we're having to deal with or likely
having to deal with from a public policy perspective, which
you're associated with pandemics and emerging epidemics. There have to
be policies in place, I think to handle these things.
That's generally what sort of the disposition has been towards
these sort of rising threats health threats to America.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, you expect there to be people in place
that are thinking about these emerging threats. So you expect
that any available technology that can help us deal with
these threats is being utilized, being research being deployed. You know,
them pulling research from mRNA vaccines because they gave mRNA
vaccines a bad name during the pandemic. Again, this is
the call coming from inside the house. The folks that

(32:42):
created all the distrust now are in charge of making
the decisions, and that's putting us at risk. We don't
know avian flu. You know there been human cases. There
hasn't been human to human transmission. If that were to
occur in viruses mutate that happens, we would be better
off being able to develop a vaccine quickly using a
platform like the m RNA platform. And they are they

(33:03):
are kind of tying her hands behind her back, so
we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I want to ask you. I want to ask you
about mRNA and the mRNA platform that you reference. I
want to ask you why it's such a good platform
to develop some of these things you've talked about. But
before I do, I want to quickly look at uh
the official who RFK Junior had expressed such great confidence in.
She was confirmed she was head of the CDC, and

(33:28):
then he asked her to fire a bunch of people
and to blindly rubber stamp and sign off on a
vaccine a schedule or a rejection of a vaccine schedule.
And she says, I'm not going to do that until
I see some evidence that you know, supports that. Here
she is in testimony in Congress.

Speaker 11 (33:44):
I believe preventable diseases will return, and I believe that
we will have our children harmed for things that we
know they do not need to be harmed by polio, measles, diphtheria,
whooping cough.

Speaker 12 (33:58):
The stake's laid bait by fired CDC director doctor Susan
Manars over the future of the nation's vaccine policy in
August twenty nine, days after he called her scientific credentials unimpeachable.
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, dismissed
his handpicked Senate confirmed choice over vaccines.

Speaker 11 (34:20):
He just wanted blanket approval, and if I could not
commit to approval of each and every one of the
recommendations that would be forthcoming, I needed to resign.

Speaker 12 (34:31):
Manars told the Senate committee she refused to preapprove the
decisions of a vaccine advisory panel without science or data.
Several new members of that committee selected by Kennedy, share
his vaccine skepticism.

Speaker 11 (34:45):
I was fired for holding the line on scientific integrity,
but that line does not disappear with me.

Speaker 12 (34:50):
Two weeks ago, Kennedy told another Senate committee Manars lied
about her firing a kid to help the head of
the CDC that if she refused to sign off on
your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule, that she had
to resign.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
No.

Speaker 8 (35:05):
I told her that she had to resign because I
asked her, are you a trustworthy person?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And she said no.

Speaker 12 (35:13):
Manar has also said Kennedy disparaged the nation's top health agency.

Speaker 11 (35:17):
He called CDC the most corrupt federal agency in the world,
emphasized that cd employees were horrible people. He said that
CDC employees were killing children and they don't care, he said.
During the COVID outbreak, CDC told hospitals to turn away
sick COVID patients until they had blue lips before allowing

(35:38):
them to get treatment.

Speaker 12 (35:39):
Manars said Kennedy's assertions are not true. Some Committee Republicans
zeroed in on the COVID vaccine.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
Does the COVID vaccine reduce hospitalization for children under eighteen?

Speaker 8 (35:51):
It can, it doesn't.

Speaker 12 (35:53):
Doctor and Committee Chairman Bill Cassidy wants to hear from
Kennedy himself.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
I think Secretary Kennedy has to come and address this specifically,
all right with that?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
And and I wanted that's a good overview of everything
that is wrapped up in the CDC right now, your thoughts, doctor.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I mean, on display is a very serious person with integrity,
with with well earned credentials that frankly Democrats on that
committee were concerned about, wondering is this person going to
be just you know how telling to everything RFK Junior
wants and didn't vote for her, right, They were concerned
about this because that's what this guy has done thus far,
and she proved them wrong. I think Senator white House

(36:34):
apologized for that vote, and so I think you're seeing
a serious person of integrity and just completely unserious people
like RFK Junior, like really almost all of the Republicans
on that panel, I think, save Senator Cassidy, who's a physician,
but even Senator Marshall, who's also a physician. You know,
made some analogy about a football coach and an athletic

(36:55):
director in different belief systems and sort of suggesting that
believe vaccines have saved millions of lives somehow falled into
the category of a belief system that we can just
accept one or the other and kind of part our ways.
It's like one is true, one is reality, and one
is just some hooky scheme that that RFK has used
to enrich himself and now to take over the US

(37:18):
health policy.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, it's it's weird that A that's what I kind
of was talking about with science before that, A that
science is so informed by data, you know, and that
all of a sudden we get into, as you say,
the squshy sort of what you believe, what you have
faith in, et cetera. It's just I want to I
promised i'd get back to it in the last couple
of minutes, just one little piece of science here which

(37:43):
is associated with the m RNA technology. You were just
talking about the fact that, you know, rejecting the m
r and A technology as viable for treatments on something
like bird flu, not treatments, but you know, inoculations to
prevent the population from succumbing to any rising pandem epidemics.
Can you speak to why the mRNA technology is so powerful.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, it's because basically, if you can get a piece
of the genetic code of whatever you're trying to vaccinate against,
you can insert it into this RNA. It's this sequence.
It's like this the blueprint almost except it isn't the blueprint.
It's what the blueprint makes inside the body to them
make proteins which make the antibodies which fight it. And
so you can do that, put that into someone's body.

(38:27):
It gets made into the antibodies to fight the infection
or to prevent the infection from ever occurring, and then
it gets eaten up, basically dissolved. The mRNA goes away
all the craziness about it getting incorporated. It can't get
into your DNA. It's a totally different molecule. It's not possible.
And so the ability to do that so quickly, I mean,
you can take the platform and within months, probably within

(38:49):
weeks or even days, you can have a viable vehicle.
You then have to test it and purify it, make
sure that it's doing what you wanted to do. But
you know, unlike growing out things in certain cultures, and
it is like or does a magnitude faster and more
accurate and more effective than sort of the old technology

(39:10):
we've been doing for years, which works great for these
stable types of infections that we've been you know, inoculating
against for years and years. But when something is coming
up on you and taking lives quicker than you can imagine,
like COVID was doing very early on, you know, it
was a miracle. Again, something Trump should have run on
when he ran for reelection, something that should have been
his calling card to get back, you know, into office.

(39:33):
And strangely, the singular achievement of his presidency that actually
helped people is something he has been very quick to abandon.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, it's odd. I mean, that's that's again that's a
reflection of public outcry and hearing enough public outcrying controversy
that he goes, Yeah, this is those are my people
who are now making noise about it, so I want
to step away from it as well. When he actually
got COVID, they threw everything but the kitchen sink at it, right,
I mean, yeah, the COVID vaccine. Now, the COVID vaccine

(40:08):
that has been I guess the government isn't going to
pay for the COVID vaccine from You can still get it,
but I think it'll be sixty five or older. You
have to have some co morbidities. Maybe you can update
me on that, but I know that the financial part
of it isn't going to be paid, not going to
be picked up by the government.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, as far as we know, that is true, right.
I think part of the problem is we don't know
exactly how this is going to play out. Certain states
have taken action. I know here in Michigan, our governor
has issued a directive, but we need a little more
clarification on that. Even I'm a physician, my wife's physician,
she works in a clinic family practice, and she doesn't
know who she can get it for. It keeps asking

(40:47):
the people up the chain in the system who also
don't know you know who they can provide it to
how they're going to get it, how you get a
prescription to a pharmacist. Then pharmacists can decide not to
do it because they're maybe afraid they're going to run
a foul. I mean, it's it's been completely turned upside down,
and you're going to have whatever comes out, you're going
to have a significant number of people who want to

(41:08):
get vaccinated who won't be able to do so. And
I think you know you're going to see we're already
crowded in hospitals, we already can't get people in beds.
It's gonna get worse again. Really sad to see it
come this way.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I'm going to ask you a question for the older
boys and girls, and that is about the pneumonia and
RSV inoculations. Yeah, give me a moment on those and
how you feel about their efficacy and whether they would
be something that you'd recommend for most older adults.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Absolutely. I try not to give mass medical advice, but
on things like this, it's pretty easy. Right, if you're
an older adult, if you're somebody with you know, chronic
lung disease or other pre existent conditions that would put
you at higher risk if you were to get pneumonia
or you were to get RSD. We usually think, I
have always thought of RSD as a disease of infants
and neonates and it does cause significant you know, sickness

(41:58):
in the group, but increasingly recognized as significant infection and
older folks and folks with chronic lung disease. So absolutely, you.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Know, what are the technology doctor? What is the doctor
Robert Davidson? What what is the technology behind those? Are there?
Are those mr and A developed to inoculation.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Believe I don't believe so. I believe they're developed on
more standardized platforms, but then they were done over a
number of years, not responding to you know, this emerging
infection like COVID or like potentially idios.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
So there's more time essentially.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
To absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Wow, you know, we have mad respect for the work
you do. Love that you come through and and really
appreciate your your thoughts on on what's happening at the CDC,
and it's changing week to week. As you say, no,
it's unclear to the public who's in charge and you know,
who actually has the credentials to make recommendations that we
should take seriously, and then who's just a talking head

(42:53):
in the Trump administration who looks good and throws a
bunch of The thing about science is you can throw
a bunch of stuff at us that we don't really understand,
and then we just kind of nod and go, Okay,
there must be a problem with it then, or whatever
it might be. But essentially, what you're saying today is
we don't know nothing really has changed on some level,

(43:14):
except for the fact that it looks like government support
of certain vaccines has likely gone away.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, government support, And as a result, you know, we
don't know how insurance companies are going to handle this
as well. And in the end, the CDC director, the
current acting director, will have to approve these recommendations that
come out of the aset panels. But it sure seems like,
you know, doctor Manas was not willing to do that.
I guess we'll have to see if the acting director

(43:40):
is willing to do that. I haven't heard much from
that person, so we'll have to see. But you know,
I appreciate being here. I appreciate in today, with so
much going on that needs to be talked about, that
you do want to talk about these issues happening because
I think they are really important and people need to
stay on top of them.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
It's easy to lose a lot of plots because stuff
is coming at us so quick and so loudly. But yeah,
this is key because all of these emerging health issues
can quickly overtake everything else. I mean, when people start
getting sick in large numbers. So thanks, doctor, appreciate it,
Doctor Rob Davidson. Everybody. Yeah, we'll have a link to

(44:17):
your to your work underneath this video. So thanks a lot.
All right, doctor Rob Davidson, thank you, my friend. He
is just so good, so good. I didn't even get
into a conversation about medicaid with him. I wanted to
do that. The Medicaid cuts, I think they still have
to They kick in in a big way in another

(44:38):
year or so, and I think they'll very much affect
some of the work that he does because he works
at these rural hospitals. I wanted to Oh, I just
am seeing this now, I Mark him and Albert. It
sounds like population control to me. Mark, What does doctor
Rob think about population control? Chaplain Fred says with a
ten dollars super chat. Yeah, I don't know that's to

(45:00):
be fair. That's a kind of almost philosophical, administrative political view.
The population control issue is very much part of the
broader Kurdish yarvin informed narrative. That's real. Okay, it's a

(45:22):
Peter teel A narrative. They don't talk about it openly
that way, but sort of the technologists taking over, the
CEO taking over that the country is run that way
by technologists and a CEO. And then you get into
the weeds which are associated with what you're talking about
or at least hinting about, which is a population control

(45:43):
Maybe for the next conversation, we have other guests coming
in the pipeline who also might be suitable to weigh
in on that. Susan Roberts says, hi y'all or hi y'all.
Glad we have Newsome Obama, John Stewart and others that
are speaking out. Yeah. Last night on the late night shows,

(46:03):
there was quite a bit of it was kind of
faux supplication, like pretend worshiping of Donald Trump, which is
pretty funny. We can't run it for you, of course,
because of issues with monetization, but it was sort of
funny to watch them all in support of Jimmy Kimmel

(46:25):
obviously talk about Trump and sort of lavish praise on him,
but it of course is all because of a deeply
serious issue, which is the government control of media and
information and that they can erase somebody like this from
the public forum. And there are a lot of other

(46:48):
people who depend on the Jimmy Kimmel Show for their livelihood,
their grips. They're lighting people, their producers, they're writers there.
I mean, it's a there, audience coordinators, it's an immense show,
an immense broadcast, and I mean there are unions involved.

(47:08):
There's a union in Hollywood that is protesting and pushing
back against the government over just this. You can't just
end these shows overnight.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
So carently you can, because now Trump is saying the
FCC could revoke the licenses of TV broadcasters that give
him too much bad publicity. So anybody then who criticizes
Trump talks in a negative fashion about the president out.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, I mean, what kim is talking about is so
very true. And we actually have an interview. I was
going to play these interviews for Michael Shore and Jim
Avela on Air Force one where basically Trump makes those
remarks that Kim's alluding to, you know. He said that

(47:57):
the SEC should revoke broadcasters licenses of anyone who anyone
who's against me, and they, meaning the late night host,
give me only bad publicity. I mean they're getting a license.
I would think maybe their license should be taken away,

(48:19):
he said, it would be. It'll be up to Brendan Carr.
He said, I think Brendan Carr is outstanding. He's a patriot,
he loves our country, and he's a tough guy. So
we'll have to see. Trump also said of the evening
shows on Network TV, all they do is hit Trump.
They're licensed, they're not allowed to do that. They're an

(48:40):
arm of the Democrat Party. He said. The reality is
that this is a flavor of what we see regularly
with Donald Trump, which is once he sees the success
of leaning on in this case, Disney ABC through the

(49:01):
FCC and Sinclair and Next Star stations, realizing that the
government has to green light acquisitions that these companies want.
That the government and government involvement is critical, he realizes
he has leverage. We started with Colbert, he said it.

(49:26):
We started with Colbert, then we got Kimmel. The other
guys are next and now we'll go to the Network News.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
When even when Ted Cruz, who I guess today on
a podcast, came out and said, this is like the mafia,
you know, coming to go out against the Trump administrations
slamming down free speech. When Ted Cruz, you know, disagrees,
you know, you really have crossed a line here, right exactly,
and now there and there are people on the right

(49:56):
who are standing up for free speech.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Bill mcdevlin with a five dollars super chat, she's an
og of the show. What about criticisms of Trump during
an election? Will candidates not be able to criticize Trump?
Interesting rending car part of Project twenty twenty five, Gang
says Jane. Oh, it's amazing how the Project twenty twenty
five people have taken over russ Vote. Russell Vote is

(50:21):
Project twenty twenty five right, and the Heritage Foundation is
Project twenty twenty five. I'll remind you because it's kind
of easy to lose track of a lot of stuff.
The Heritage Foundation, they're a really intense right wing group.
Take away women's access to abortion right. They have any

(50:45):
number of policies that are associated with clamping down on
the academic community, on the universities and colleges. You've seen
it all played out. The Heritage Foundation tenets are so
right wing that you would you'd be shocked if it

(51:09):
were all put into place. And you know what, it's
all in Project twenty twenty five, and it is getting
put in place. It really is one brick at a time.
They are building it out. And so the Heritage Foundation
is also the beneficiary of what it has very much
relevance to what we're talking about. They are the beneficiaries

(51:31):
of the way in which Donald Trump went after the
law firms in this country. And you have major law
firms in this country that agreed to do tens of
million dollars of pro bono work for free for Donald
Trump and Donald Trump related causes. And among the beneficiaries

(51:59):
of that deal the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation, they
have hundreds of millions of dollars. The Heritage Foundation, They're
not sitting there with a tin can on the street,
hundreds of millions of dollars that they use to try
to get right wing policies placed into American governmental administrative strategies,

(52:24):
as I say, successful in taking away a woman's right
over her reproductive of freedoms right, and they're very much
about clamping down on dissenting speech. They are going to
get pro bono legal work from major I'm talking about

(52:47):
high end legal institutions, high end law firms. They are
going to be the beneficiaries of that pro bono work.
The Heritage Foundation, it's insane. So you're going to go
at this pro bono work as a result of Donald
Trump leaning on these law firms early on in the administration,

(53:08):
like in the first month or two, and now those
law firms are doing work for them. So again, this
is how America has changed. There has essentially been a
shakedown of media, of academia and of the legal world,
and they've successfully done it. And this platform that I'm

(53:33):
on right now may change. They may change the algorithm.
They've already made it more difficult to achieve any kind
of threshold in terms of numbers, so they can mess
with a livelihood that way. If something happens to us,
I guess you could go to our website, the Mark
Thompsons Show dot com, and we'll tell you where we
end up. Maybe we'll go to substack, maybe we'll go

(53:54):
to a Patreon thing. But I like the YouTube world,
and I like the fact that this is a free
audio podcast. We want to give it to you for
free in a PBS NPR way. In other words, we're
underwritten by all of those who have derived some benefit
and continue to derive some benefit from both the show,
the community, et cetera. But all I'm trying to say

(54:14):
is it works. So Trump's shakedown of Disney, of Sinclair,
of Next Star through the FCC chairman totally successful. And
now what is he saying? Yeah, We're gonna go after
the night late news too. They're pretty rough on Trump,
and you see the way in which they've already turned
down the flame in terms of any kind of criticism.

(54:38):
Look at what he said to Jonathan Carl I mean
in that I'm gonna play you the video in just
a minute, where he said, you know we're not You're not,
so maybe we'll go after you. John, you have hate
in your heart or anger in your heart toward me. Anyway,

(54:59):
that's a little bit of an overview. I know I
got off of that. One comment got me off on
those things. But I will I'll talk more about it
with Michael and Jim because I want to, uh, I
want to review a little of what happened in England,
and I want to review a little bit what happened.
I want to review what happened with Trump as he
faced the press, and he's kind of riffing. You get

(55:21):
a sense of what he's thinking, but he's really feeling
it now, he's really feeling his power. So we'll get
into it, as I say, and I'll share the video
with with Michael and Jim, and at minimum we'll have
Michael along. I'm hoping we'll have Michael and Jim both.
So I must also say in this little this little break,

(55:48):
that I'm enjoying my Coachella Valley coffee. I've yes, I've
I've ground it for perfection. Kim, Kim, is are you
going tea or coffee today?

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Vanilla tea?

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Speaker 5 (57:21):
That's the Lion's Man. Yeah, I will say it throughout
the rest of the day. It doesn't feel quite right
to take a sip of my tea without the harp
music in the background. There needs to be the fan
where's the fanfare?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
You're right? Yeah, I mean it's all it's it's in
your head. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
And then there's poor Michael Shore who doesn't even get
to drink anything when the heart.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah. Well, the truth is we have new mugs coming
out that are probably even more Michael Shore's jam. You know.
The new ones are really cool. What were you showing
them before? Right, Albert at the get Mark Merch site.
Check out these new mugs. Really like getting one of these,

(58:12):
the new merch mugs Born to Peacefully Protest. That's one
of them. And then the second one is just it
just says peacefully resist. Is that what it says? Or
peacefully protest? Is that peacefully resists? There it is? Yeah?
Really and the font is really cool. Gosh, well, I

(58:34):
may have to nothing.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
You know, the guy does nothing but show up every
week he does, offering the most insightful commentary and he
gets nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I don't know what to say. I feel bad for him.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
I think there's a hint of desperation.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I really, maybe he's You're showing up at a desert
ladies and gentlemen shadow the Mark Thompson Show. No, no, no,
all right, please welcome a guy who has forgotten more
about politics than most of us will ever even know.
He's the brilliant and funny Michael Shore.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Everyone, thank you, Kim.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
It's good to be here. Uh, Michael Shore. This is
a disturbing week with the h We're still talking about
the fact that you do not have a mug.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
Well, maybe they do this for me all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I don't know what the hell they do it for.

Speaker 10 (59:42):
Thank you, Casey h the we like you delight in it,
so don't pretend that you don't. And now there's a
new mug, a new mug coming out, so no one's
gonna want the old mugs and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Well, you're right, and they've actually become collectors items. So yeah,
I don't know, Michael Shore has concepts.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Of a mug, so just yes or no.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
You still do not have a plan. I have concepts
of a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, and you have concepts of a mug.

Speaker 10 (01:00:08):
All right, Okay, well we've gotten that done, We've gotten
it out of the way. I'm I'm all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
It is there's a lot here, and the removal of
Kimmel from late night television is the extension of a
powerful arm of government over media. We're seeing the control
of so many different parts of our lives that have

(01:00:38):
always existed independent of government or with minimal government involvement.
The law, academics and universities, and media perhaps should take
center stage because so much of the information that Americans
get comes through this that is now being suppressed. I

(01:00:59):
wanted to for you the interview that Donald Trump did
and kind of that, you know, impromptu air force one
thing he does. Those who are listening, I'll try to
repeat anything that you may not be able to hear,
because but those watching we have it's subtitled for you.
But this is how Trump actually broadens his view and

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focus as to things he may also want canceled beyond
the late night host Go ahead, Albert late ninete, are
you going to ask Brendan Carter away in the other
late night hosts that you have said should be off
the air.

Speaker 13 (01:01:43):
Were television, there is a license. I'll give you an example.

Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
I read someplaces that the networks were ninety seven percent
against me, again, ninety seven percent negative, and yet I
won easily.

Speaker 13 (01:01:55):
What all seven spake says popular whateverything.

Speaker 9 (01:01:59):
And if they're ninety seven percent against, they give you
holy bad listening to oppress. I mean they're getting a license.
I would think maybe their license should be taken away.
It would be up to Brendan Carr. He had no talent.
He's a whack job, but he had no talent. And

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more importantly than talent, they end because a lot of
people have no talent. They get ratings, but he had
no ratings. His ratings were worse than Colbert. I think
they got rid of Colbert, which was a good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Thing to do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:33):
And look, that's something that you'd be talked about for
licensing too, when you have a network and you have
evening shows and all they do is hit Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
That's all they do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:47):
If you go back, I guess they haven't had a
conservative all in years or something somebody said. But when
you go back in particular, all they do is in Terrump.
They licensed, They're not allowed to do that. They're in
arm of the Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
So that is the way he sees it. Clearly he
felt super bothered by the mockery that he gets every night,
but that's something that's, you know, a late night tradition.
But just speak to this general view he has now
that you know he can now I think he's really
feeling his power. Michael. It can go after a lot
more than Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 10 (01:03:23):
I would feel my power of power donald Trump now too,
because he's been given the power, but through deferment by
the people who are able to grant it to him,
whether it's the courts, whether it's the places like the FCC,
like the FEC, like you know the FED.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I guess that's the feed.

Speaker 10 (01:03:43):
I think there there's a reason that he thinks these things.
He has no appreciation for history, in good or bad ways.
If he knew what Richard Nixon was putting up with,
if he knew how Chevy Chase would come on to
television mocking Gerald Ford, how Jimmy Carter was mocked, how
George Bush was mocked. That's what the late night tradition is.

(01:04:06):
That's what comedy is in. Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are actually
quite good. They're off by about two percent from where
they were, But when you consider that nearly two million
people a night watch Jimmy Kimmel at a time, I mean,
you can't compare that to what they would have been
in nineteen ninety three. We are past that era now,
people have cut the cord late night television sitting down
on the couch. That is unfortunately going to be quaint

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pretty soon. But Jimmy Kimmel, because he is in fact
so funny, objectively so and clever, and he gets a
lot of people watching his show every night. And Trump
hates that too, because he hates the people watch someone
who does something as well as Jimmy Kimmel during which
Jimmy Kimmel will mock Donald Trump. So it's not even complicated, Mark.

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I mean, this is what we know about Donald Trump.
He wants to control everything, including wanting to be loved
and accepted. It's been running in his blood. He came
out of Queen's and wanted to be from Manhattan. It's
the exact same thing was he wanted to be in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
He can't.

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
So what does he do. He forces his way down
the throats of everybody else by mere fact that he
has so many acolytes and so many people who adore
him and cowtow to him. And that may be curious,
but that's true, and he's able to do these things
because of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I was mentioning right before you came on that you
know that pro bono work that he essentially extorted from
major law firms in America. One of them has begun
that pro bono work for the Heritage Foundation. I mean
this again, they have to be Trump aligned causes, and
so the Heritage Foundation, they have hundreds of millions of them,

(01:05:45):
I think four hundred million dollars already. And you know
they're not exactly you know, hurting and needing pro bono work.
They're going to get pro bono work from top law
firms now again to pursue the Heritage Foundation causes, which,
as you are well aware, are extreme right wing.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
It's it's remarkable because this is all because of threat right,
I mean, and and look at who came in and
look at how Jimmy Kimmel happen. Next Star, which is
a conservative leaning company own some ABC stations and among
many others, and full disclosure, I worked for them for

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a while because they also own News Nation. They look
like they want to maybe buy ABC one day. I mean,
those have been rumors, so I shouldn't even say if
they're not on the record as saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
But the minimum they want more stations, right do they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Want to They want more stations.

Speaker 10 (01:06:40):
They want to get TEGNA. I mean, but that's they want.
They were talked about as one of the suitors for
ABC when Disney talked about spinning it off. So what
does Bob Iger and what does Dana Walden who run Disney,
what did they do? They turn around and they say, yep,
we're taking Kimmel off. Is that to appease Next Star

(01:07:01):
who wants to appease Trump, so that when they do
all of this acquisition work, they don't want the anti
trust stuff to happen. Maybe I certainly wouldn't put it
past them. So there is a chain of both self
interest and wanting to appease Trump in order to fulfill

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that self interest, and TV being that late night television is,
you know, is in let's say the winter of its
years or the late fall of its years. I think
that to that end, they see it as expendable. You know,
you can fire Stephen Colbert and it doesn't devastate the network.
You can suspend indefinitely Jimmy Kimmel and doesn't devastate the network.

(01:07:45):
But they also guarantee, or whoever guarantees, is the single
greatest rated show to be on television in twenty years
will probably be when Jimmy Kimmel gets his microphone back,
whenever that is, and on whatever network it will be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It's not just even Next Star. I mean, this is
a weird business situation in which there are multiple layers,
all of which require some kind of connection to government approval.
So you mentioned Nexttar, I mentioned the Sinclair stations, their
right wing ownership. And you mentioned Disney, you talked about Eiger. Well,

(01:08:24):
Disney's trying to acquire NFL network. Okay, so they need
Justice Department approval for that. So you see how there
are these multiple layers, as I say, but they all
require the rubber stamp or the approval of the Trump administration.
And you can't really run a foul of the Trump

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administration or they will block your ability to do business.
And they've shown that they'll actually do it. These are
not just empty threats.

Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
Yeah, there's no question, and they have very recently, you know,
done it that they say. They follow through with what
they said, right. They use the courts as much as
they can, or they fly in the face of the court.
So the courts are forced to be in the emergency
docket situation, from the top Supreme Court all the way

(01:09:17):
down to the circuit and appeals courts, and that's what
they do, and they do it, you know pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I was going to mention as well to many of
you this may be a body blow, but I stand
with my ladies on the view Brendan Carr suggesting that
the FCC should look into ABC's the view, He appeared
on Scott Jennings radio show yesterday, where he suggested the

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FCC should look into whether ABC's The View is a
bona fide news show, to use his words, a show
that is exempt from the so called equal time rule,
which argues broadcast stations and programs need to provide equal
time to and it's a different political parties. This is
the quote. I would assume you can make the argument
that The View is a bona fide news show, but

(01:10:07):
I'm not so sure about that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:09):
Well, I'm not sure the definition exists anymore of what
a bonafide news show is. And what they're able to
do is they're able to exercise that on broadcast TV
and not on cable. So people will come out and say, well,
what about Fox?

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
What about Fox?

Speaker 10 (01:10:21):
The rules are a bit different for cable broadcasters. And
that's the luxury that the Foxes and the far right
networks have that the places like ABC don'tut.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
On issues like this. That is absolutely true, and he says,
I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into
other The View and some of those other programs that
you have still qualifies bona fide news programs and therefore
exempt from the equal opportunity of regime that Congress has
put in place. But as you say, it's really technology
that's changed everything because these broadcast networks they go over

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the public airwaves, is the thinking, and so you need
the government, which is again an extension of the people,
at least that was the supposed plan, and their control
over the public airwaves necessitates that news programs offer equal time.
But as the technologies change, people are on cable TV,
people stream now, people watch stuff on their phone. They completely,

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i should say more completely find themselves irrelevant. Maybe in
a few years. But it's interesting that still on all
the merger stuff, which is related to this technology. Michael.
This is why I went through that little run. Because
they want to stay relevant these various networks. They are
acquiring streamers in increasing numbers. That's what this is about

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as well. And the streamer acquisitions do require SCC approval,
and so you see the long arm of the FCC
involved in all of this.

Speaker 10 (01:11:44):
Yeah, and this guy Brendan Carr is on a mission, clearly,
and he was sent on that mission. And whether there
was a quid pro quot when he took the job
or not, this is what he's doing now. And Trump
is deferring to him a great deal. I mean you
heard him in that press conference. And it's going to continue,
you know. That's what we're dealing with now until we

(01:12:06):
are not. And that's you know, he wants to tilt
everything to his favor in ways that we have not
before seen. And there is you know, every president tries
to tild things in their favor. They don't like negative coverage.
They want things that they believe in to happen. There's
never been anyone who has done it to this degree

(01:12:29):
on a daily basis. In our memories. Certainly, I can't
you know, I can't speak of what Warren Harding did
when he was in the White House, but nobody has
said that it was anything like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Right, Well, this is yeah, I mean, this is a
I would say that the Project twenty twenty five strategy
is well in place, and there's never been anything like
this complete takeover in a methodical and well strategized There's
never been anything like this. Right, show me the show
me Albert the In the Gaggle interviews that they did,

(01:13:03):
they're in the UK, where everybody's you know, shouting stuff
for Trump. You see a lot revealed in the riff
and then I want to talk a bit about the
Charlie Kirk stuff. But first I want to show you
this again. This is in the conversation starts with the
Australian interviewer and then he ends up with Jonathan carl
go ahead, City.

Speaker 14 (01:13:25):
Office should be engaged in time piece of activity.

Speaker 13 (01:13:29):
Well, I'm really not. My kids are running the business.
I mean, you know what the activity.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Where are you.

Speaker 13 (01:13:34):
From, I'm from the Australian Broadcasting the Australias.

Speaker 14 (01:13:38):
You're hurting Australia right in my opinion, you are hurting
Australia very much right now, and they want to get
along with me. You know your your your leader is
coming over to see me very sosten. I'm gonna tell
them about you. You said a very bad tone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
We go ahead, ya.

Speaker 13 (01:13:55):
Said a nice mister President. What are you carying about
the operation in goss of Israeli operation.

Speaker 11 (01:14:02):
Or ethan sort.

Speaker 13 (01:14:03):
I'm hearing that they want to go in and I'm
also hearing that Hamas.

Speaker 15 (01:14:06):
Wants to take our twenty hostages plus dead bodies.

Speaker 13 (01:14:09):
You know, they have about thirty two of them.

Speaker 15 (01:14:11):
And they want to put them in the way of
any attack, and uh, nobody's happy about that situation.

Speaker 13 (01:14:18):
It came out yesterday too.

Speaker 15 (01:14:19):
You so that they want to supposedly they've taken the
hostage out of deep caves in tunnel and they're bringing them,
putting them on the front line. And nobody's heard of that.

Speaker 13 (01:14:29):
One for a few centuries.

Speaker 14 (01:14:32):
Saw that the UN said that Israel is guilty of
shenocide and they have committed acts of genocide in Goswa.

Speaker 13 (01:14:37):
They voted on that the new report out seeing multiple
ACA genosidehen it comes to a vote, will see what happens.
That'll come to a vote. So we'll see what happened.
And what do you make camp BONDI saying she's gonna
go out for a hate speech?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Is that?

Speaker 13 (01:14:49):
I mean a lot of people out of your allies
say hate speech is free speech. You'll probably go after
people like you because you treat me so unfairly. It's hey,
you have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe
mefter ABC, Well, ABC paid me sixteen.

Speaker 14 (01:15:03):
Million dollars recently for a form of hagh speed right,
your company paid me sixteen million dollars for a form
of hate speech. So maybe they'll have to go after
year we want everything to be fair. It hasn't been fair,
and the radical.

Speaker 13 (01:15:17):
Left has done tremendous damage to the country. But we're
fixing it. We have right now the hottest country anywhere
in the world.

Speaker 15 (01:15:24):
And remember one year ago our country was dead and
now Washington.

Speaker 13 (01:15:30):
D is PC is fixed and I fix it. The
mayor was five the mayor. The mayor was just fine. Okay,
the mayor had the sixth city for many years. He's
been mayor for many years. The one to fix it
with thee and my people, and it is so very good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Albert, you get a vibe. You know again a year ago,
you know, America was a six. Now we're a ten.
You know. I mean there's a the general propaganda and
the machine the Trump is. But then there is what
he was talking about when he turns on Carl and says,
we may go after you. You have hate in your heart.

(01:16:09):
It was a I found it sort of a chilling,
dictatorial flex.

Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
Yeah, it's you know, it's not new to me. I mean,
going after the Australian, then telling him to be quiet,
going after John Carl. These are all things he's done
in the past. Talking about how he's made the country better.
I think that that lives in his mind. But you know,

(01:16:38):
to that extent, he is also saying that free speech.
You know he's saying he said it in a White
House press conference. You have to have to realize these
these getting on Marine one press gatherings are much different
than the White House press conferences, where the pool reporters
there are handpicked by by Donald Trump. The ones ago

(01:17:00):
into the Oval office. So you saw someone ask him
who's going to go if he thinks Antifa should be
looked at as a terrorist organization. A right wing reporter
standing next to Brian Glenn, Marjorie Taylor's girlfriend boyfriend, who
is saying the exact same sorts of things. He's the
one who asked the question if Zelensky is a dressed
appropriately to be in the Oval office. That's what happens

(01:17:21):
when you crack the news toward the agenda you want,
and then what can you do with the others. You
can just sit and pick on them, and that's what
he does. It's a demeaning, horrible thing. It is not
at all presidential. The press course should be aggressive and
shouldn't be cowed by a president who speaks down to
them and they didn't. I mean, John carl didn't take

(01:17:44):
the bait. To his credit, he then went and asked
the question again. And I don't know how strong a
question it was because the un hasn't voted, But it
doesn't matter. He didn't get involved in the back and
forth with Trump, and that's what I have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Let me ask you about Charlie Kirk now and the
House voting in favor of this GOP resolution. I mean
it was voted in favor of there are many Democrats
who voted for it. Right, condemning political violence and celebrating
Charlie Kirk was It was one of those things which

(01:18:20):
was wrapped in decrying political violence at the same time
that you celebrate Charlie Kirk. So if you don't support
it is the thinking. I'm sure that this was the calculus.
And because Mike Johnson was already saying stuff like this, like, well,
this is a law that talks about political violence and

(01:18:40):
how dangerous it is and decries it. And if the
Democrats want to vote against that, I guess they can.
But it was the celebration of Charlie Kirk. With the
complexities associated with Charlie Kirk's messages that the Democrats were
clearly reluctant to endorse. Nonetheless, they did in large enough

(01:19:02):
numbers that I believe it passed.

Speaker 10 (01:19:04):
Yeah, And what you're seeing at play there too, is
a Republican party that's starting to deal with how to
figure out MAGA going forward. So Charlie Kirk's death changes
MAGA big time. It hurts jd Vance. It was he
was somebody they're clearly afraid to piss anybody off the

(01:19:27):
right in America right now, especially Donald Trump. And since
Donald Trump likes jd Vance and jd Vance and Charlie
Kirk got jd Vance on the ticket, and Trump likes
Charlie Kirk, there is a solid base right there right now.
Jd Vance doesn't have Charlie Kirk anymore. And what it
does is it emboldens others who will run for presidents,

(01:19:50):
certainly for the nomination and Republican nomination, to be able
to tap into MAGA to support Trump or support the
words of Charlie Kirk at different time and vote on
things like this, but also have a different plan to
get to the nomination. And they're not going to care
less about jd Vance what they liked about jd Vance

(01:20:10):
was that he had Charlie Kirk in his back pocket.
He doesn't have that anymore. So I think you're going
to see Republicans behaving a little differently on the national
front and certainly on the ambitious front because of that.
So these votes that come up, there are votes to
be able to say I supported Charlie Kirk, but I'm
going to go against JD Vance next time as well.
Not all of them, and maybe no House members will

(01:20:32):
run for president. But it's the very idea of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
It's a tough one for everybody because Charlie Kirk was unapologetic,
had strong views of pushing back against racial civil rights
and talking.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
It shouldn't actually be tough.

Speaker 10 (01:20:51):
And it's only tough because there is this, you know,
sheriff who thinks that whatever he thinks is right is right.
I look at the city manager in Birmingham, Alabama, during
the civil rights movement, Bill Bull Connor. Uh, you know,
it's it wasn't a tough one. It was only tough
because nobody wanted to piss off Bull and and a

(01:21:13):
lot of them went along with what he was doing.
It's the same sort of thing. It's not even that
tough right now, it's not tough to say that Charlie
Kirk was a bad guy and he said bad things,
and but you can't say it now. You can't even
allude to it, as Jimmy Kimmel did in ways and
and then be without being you know, silenced.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
It to be fair, Jimmy Killen didn't even say he
is a bad guy. He said that people were trying
to claim their own narrative, which is true.

Speaker 10 (01:21:41):
Earlier and days earlier, he very appropriately mourned Charlie Kirk.
So you're unquestionably right, Mark. He didn't say it was
a bad guy, you know. But but it's the notion
that you could even speak any kind of ill about
these people who have been martyred. And it's it's very.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Interesting because even even in the report that usually accompanies
the questions about Jimmy Kimble in the cancelation the suspension,
I mean across the board networks and I've heard it
on NPR, et cetera. Jimmy Kimmel who was suspended for
his remarks about Charlie Kirk. Well, you can, you can
frame it that way, but the reality is it was

(01:22:19):
his remarks about Donald Trump that got him suspended. It
was Charlie Kirk was perhaps the pivot, but it was
the mockery of Donald Trump mourning Charlie Kirk's murder by
making a couple of stating something innocuous and then pivoting
to pointing to construction on the White House lawn of

(01:22:41):
the new ballroom. That was the thing that was being
mocked at that moment. You know, the fourth stage of
grief construction. The first is demolition, then it's construction. He
was mocking that. So I'm just saying framing it as
they have been doing it as well his remarks about
Charlie Kirk. Will didn't make any remarks about Charlie Kirk

(01:23:01):
that were apart from talking about the fact that the
way in which Trump spoke of Charlie Kirk was, you know,
deserving of mockery. And it was that constant mockery every
night that aroused Donald Trump's ire. Clearly. Yeah, there's no
question about I want to ask you about Ice is
in Chicago. Christy Noman is there too. There was there

(01:23:24):
always is. Their cameras they you know, they handcuff everybody. Well,
it turns out they arrested a couple of American citizens,
so you end up, you know, with the American citizens
eventually getting released. One of them, thirty seven year old
Joe Botello, talked about the whole thing. He was born
in the United States, said that massed officers entered his
home by force, destroyed his front door, he was handcuffed,

(01:23:46):
questioned inside of Customs and Border Protection vehicle, and he's
not even appearing on the list of people featured in
the press release on the raid. He says, I'm just
blessed that I'm still alive. I've been here it and
seeing it through social media, but it never crossed my
mind that it was going to happen here at my
house where I live.

Speaker 10 (01:24:07):
Yeah, it's that's that's what you get here, right, I mean,
and that's this is all about politics. This is all
about how things look and how they're going to portray
it next year when they're trying to hang on to
the House and Senate, albeit through changing the rules as well.
So it's you know, and and getting Texas to a redistrict,

(01:24:30):
seeing other states talk about it, having California voting on.
I mean, it's do everything we can to hold on
to power, and this is part of it. This is
flexing power in the cities, having people not in those
cities who just have an image of what those cities
are like right now, violent and guns everywhere and people

(01:24:51):
killing each other and illegal aliens, you know, poisoning the city,
poisoning the blood. Actually, he's during the campaign, and what
do you do. You're sitting in a swing state. You're
looking at this and you're thinking, God, this is really
bad out there. I'm going to keep voting for a
Republican you know. And I think that that is part

(01:25:14):
of what he's doing here, and he has no shame
about it. His administration has no shame, and he's fortunate
to have picked people who buy into it completely because
they adore him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I also think that you're so right. It's getting the
message out, and that's why I see the first part
of the conversation. Control of media is so critical because
that gets the message out that you want. There's new
satellite imagery Michael Shore of US military support aircraft in
the US Virgin Islands alongside photos of an American missile

(01:25:45):
cruiser Doctor Puerto Rico. This is the expanding, you know,
military footprint in the in the Caribbean. Right there are warships,
fighter jets, drones, heavy transport aircraft all there. That's all
part of this build up in this region, and Washington
is framing this officially as part of a counter narcotics mission,

(01:26:09):
but it does put all of these forces in striking
distance of Venezuela. Yeah, you think that's what we're going
to end up in. You think we're going to end
up in a military confrontation with Venezuela. We've already blown
three of these boats out of the water without you know,
it would seem a lot of evidence that they are
what they are.

Speaker 10 (01:26:28):
But you know, I don't. You'd have to ask people
at the Department of War about that, Mark. I don't
think so. I'm forever optimistic that America does not want
to get into a war in our hemisphere like that.
It doesn't there wouldn't be. I don't think the support

(01:26:49):
from his people either. He got a lot of anti
war votes. This posturing is to show that he's using
the military to fight drugs, and that's what he wants
to be out there, so posturing in that way is
important to him. There's a lot of posturing. It's Kim
Jong lun doing those military exercises.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
It's the same thing.

Speaker 10 (01:27:12):
You know, here, I am look what we can do.
And you know it's Venezuela, right, it's the guam of
what we were.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
In Central America. Yeah, exactly, it is true that I
would completely agree with you. I mean, he he It's odd.
He really sold the you know, he's the peace candidate.
He wants to end these wars. You know, he really
sold that I'm going to end there on day one.
I've ended all these other wars these and yet his
flexes are constantly associated with blowing stuff up. He went

(01:27:44):
after Solomaney and assassinated him at the end of his
first presidency. These are Venezuelan moves. They just feel like
really masculine flexes, which I think is a big part
of his base as well. And then the other thing is,
you know, even what you've sort of suggested, just alluded
to renaming the Pentagon as you know, the Department of

(01:28:05):
War as opposed to the Department of Defense. That is
a flex of sorts, right, And it's an aggressive military
branding or rebranding of this institution.

Speaker 10 (01:28:16):
Being a provocateur. And he loves he loves saying he
loves the Gulf of America and the Department of War.
He loves going into places, you know, like Puerto Rico
and the Virgin Islands where they don't like him. In
Puerto Rico, Stacy Plaskett is the representative for the delegate
from the US Virgin Islands. She was one of the

(01:28:37):
impeachment managers that prosecuted him in the Senate. I mean,
you have to look at every little petty part.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Of this too.

Speaker 10 (01:28:44):
When you examine it or anything that he does, there
is motivation that is far beyond what the motivation may seem.
And I'm not saying that any of that is right,
that he's thinking about Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands,
or that he even knew this was happening necessary, but
it's important, an important.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Part of it. I want to ask you last thing
about something that was very high profile. We played a
bunch of cuts from cash Pateel his back and forth
that he had with so many in Congress this week
in congressional testimony being questioned about the Charlie Kirk investigation,
which as you know, was broken open by a call

(01:29:20):
from the Kirk family essentially and identifying their son as
the shooter. As the murderer.

Speaker 10 (01:29:29):
Right, there was a great There was a great Onion
headline which I may have shared with you, Mark, but
it said Cash Patel goes back to Shooter's family to
see if they can help solve any other crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
That really is great. I mean, that really is And
yet he was peacocking about it, and of course other
Congress people were helping him peacock about it. I always
feel as though those shoutdowns, it's very hard there. It is,
thank you, Albert, hard to win them, very hard to
win those shoutdowns, primarily because he is he's a talking head.

(01:30:09):
He comes out of that world. There are around Donald
Trump a bunch of Cash Patel's right. Pam Bondi is
one of them. Pete Hegseth is one of them. They
they come out of this world and they won't stop.
And so if you decide to try to dismantle them
that way, I think it's usually you're usually playing to
at best a draw, I would say. But I did

(01:30:31):
think that Jamie Raskin was quite good. The way Jamie
Raskins sort of reviewed his ineptness and the way the
FBI has changed and become really an instrument of political recrimination.
But give me your thoughts on the Patel testimony and
where he sits in the administration.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
I mean, it's predictable.

Speaker 10 (01:30:47):
Whenever you see somebody facing a Senate or a House
committee and they are really going after the senators personally
and making remarks to explain themselves that are personal, right,
calling them buffoons or anything like that. I think it
is pretty transparent what's going on. He doesn't have the facts.
He's being super careful because of litigation going on with

(01:31:11):
the Driscoll case. My prediction, and I will be happy
to stand by it. I don't think cash Bettel has
more than ninety days left in this job. I think
they know who is going to replace him, and I
think that he's up there trying to sort of save
his ass in a way, but at the same time
really trying to be vicious with people he doesn't think

(01:31:33):
like him and be a puppet of the president.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
There's no shortage of people that don't like him. All right,
now here we go, Luis says this. Michael Shore forty
eight seconds of sports. Michael thoughts on the great Clayton
Kershwa Shaw and I guess so the retirement announcement and
Kopatar's retirement. A lot of retiring going on here.

Speaker 10 (01:31:54):
Yeah, I mean there's in LA, right, I mean they
both had historic careers for LA athletes playing here for
their entire careers. Clayton Kershaw probably more nationally known than ANJ. Copatar,
but Coopatar has been the captain of the King since
twenty sixteen, and I you know, it's a real changing
of the guard. But it's also a rare time when

(01:32:17):
you see athletes play for one team in one city
for the entirety of their careers, which is how we
grew up seeing most athletes, right and and so that's
kind of fun to see. But it's unquestionably going to
be different for the fans of both those teams because
they've had these guys around forever. Kershaw it was a
monumental figure in baseball, and Copatar less probably less well

(01:32:42):
known nationally or you know, to hockey fans because he
played on the West Coast and hockey is so concentrated
on the East and in the North. But still just
both Hall of famers and their respective sports and both champions.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
You're a Niners fan, and the loss of Rock Party
franchise quarterback I would have said it's a huge loss.
And the guy comes in who has very unimpressive numbers
going into the game just lights it up. He was
terrific in filling in for Party. Yeah he was.

Speaker 10 (01:33:19):
And you know he's a capable quarterback. And Kyle Shanahan's
way of playing is that you don't take many risks
in his offense, and so you know, quarterbacks who are
not who are risk averse, are generally successful in his scheme.
You know, I don't think Mac Jones can take you
to the super Bowl. I think that rock Perty's mobility

(01:33:39):
and kind of checkdowns are probably stronger. And they say
Brock could be back this Sunday at the last I heard, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Wow, I did. I did see his I saw some
video of him kind of warming up or you know,
throwing it around.

Speaker 10 (01:33:54):
So yeah, yeah, I mean it's all good signs. It's
week three. You don't want to get them further hurt,
and the Niners are two and oh now, so a better,
a good place to be going into Arizona. I think
they can be okay with Mac Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
That is your forty eight seconds of sports. He is
the great one. Thank you for being here. Michael Love
talking to you, Michael Shore.

Speaker 10 (01:34:18):
Everybody, oh m thanks for the support.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
The Mark Thompson Show. And he's talking about Kim's support
of him getting the getting a mug. He's awesome, pretty great.
Kim's got a crush on so many people. Really, he's
got an extensive list of crushes.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
You just bring the good guests. What can I say?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Love that smash the like button like.

Speaker 5 (01:34:47):
A blush with your iron rod.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Yeah, helps us in the world of YouTube if you
give us a thumbs up, so thank you. Yeah, we
already read that Vilma thing. But whoever put that up there,
thank you for watching the sh I appreciate it. All right.
Let's uh, let's smash it like.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Your iron ride.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Yes, this one. I don't think I love my Joan
Hollywood shout out, just because she gives us a twenty
dollars super Chat, just because she said, thank you so
so much, Thank you, say so much, Joan Hollywood. Appreciate
that very very much. Got what a cool name, Joan Hollywood. Uh,

(01:35:27):
all right, sheesh, let's get him a mug. Already, says
Harry Magnet, I'm you know, five dollars super Chat, thank you.
I'll give him a mug. Next time I see him,
I'll have I'll have a mug. Okay, I'll give him
a mug or two. But then we'll have to find
another another running bit. So you know, if you guys
can find me another running bit. Has anybody thought about that?

(01:35:47):
Everybody wants to get rid of something or take care
of something, and then they don't think about the next step.
So all right, it's time to do something that people
look forward to. It's a legacy you from our radio show. Now,
it is not you, Michael Snyder. It is not you,
although I certainly do as others do look forward to

(01:36:09):
Michael Snyder's contributions as the Culture Blaster every week he
dutifully fulfills his responsibility. But this is something different. It's
a franchise we started on KGO Radio. Now will you
continue it. It's curated by the Great Albert. This is
Friday Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:36:28):
It's time for a Friday Fabulous Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
There is a gantic alligator.

Speaker 8 (01:36:38):
Oh look at the weirdest stories from our weirdest state.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Feel friend him in if you want. Michael Snyder, you
are in the studio and we love you of Florida.
Man accused of shooting at quote his parasite roommate with
an arrow. Thorida man accused of trying to shoot his
roommate with an arrow. Yeah, two got into an argument

(01:37:06):
over a vodka bottle that was in the trash.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
I know this sounds like an exciting household.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Deputies went to a home in the Key Largo area
around six in the morning because neighbors mentioned a disturbance.
Sixty nine year old man leading them to George Henry Balboni,
who's sixty one, lying in front the front yard with
a bloody face. Oh, several arrows were found on and

(01:37:35):
near Balboni. Be willing to bet my lunch that there's
alcohol involved. I just told you there's alcohol involved. The
victim said that Balboni lured him to a vehicle on
the property and tried to kill him by shooting him
with an arrow, but missed. The victim suffered a minor
cut to his ear from the arrow. According to investigators,
that fight then ensued and the guy who had this

(01:37:59):
minor cut to his ear it was shot with the arrow,
took the crossbow from Balboni and hit him with it,
knocking him to the ground. It was Omnen. Balboni told
investigators he tried to kill the victim, who he described
as a parasite. He has no remorse over the whole thing.
Balboni taken to an area hospital for head injuries. The
victim not taken to the hospital. Apparently they've lived together

(01:38:23):
for years. They've a history of arguing, these two sixty
nine and sixty one year old folks arguing, and Balboni
told deputies he was angry because he went through his
trash on Monday found vodka, so he decided to kill him.
Balboni was charge of the tempted murder Wow. And then

(01:38:44):
the sheriff, Rick Ramsey had this violence is never the
answer to a roommate dispute. But yeah, thank you Sheriff Rick. Yeah,
very well done. It was one of those crossbows we've
shown it to you, wasn't it just like a bow
and arrow that's like a powerful right. It's like a
pistol that's also an arrow. You know, if you.

Speaker 7 (01:39:07):
Do this, by the way, mark, you are entitled to
a boy scout, merit badge and archery. H. That's one
of the stipulates of getting one of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Stipulates is a ding word very well done. A Florida
man is arrested in Flagler County. He had sea turtle
eggs and drugs in his possession. No Beverly Beach poker's
at They arrest a man in a van on Beverly Beach.
They say they found sea turtle eggs on the floorboard

(01:39:36):
of the vehicle and many many Mucho drogas drugs throughout
the van. They arrest Wesley Winters. He was fifty three.
Deputies say they found Winter's van parked outside a home
along North Ocean Shore Boulevard. Deputy is saying that Winters
have been arrested for aggravated battery. He was under a

(01:39:59):
no content order for the person who lived at the house.
The u Flagler County Sheriff's Office released this word. The
deputy woke Winters up, asked him to step out of
the van. That's when he noticed that the white and
tan objects and orbs were on the floorboard and they

(01:40:20):
were between Winter's feet as well. He called Florida Fish
and Wildlife Conservation and he put the eggs into an
evidence bag when he noticed a marijuana bowl on the
ground next to the van. When asked if he had
any drugs. The deputy said that Winter responded, quote, not
that I'm aware of, and he agreed to let the

(01:40:41):
deputy search the van. That's when they found meth, fentanyl, marijuana,
and an alpres is it alpreslam pill? I ask you, Michael,
you're drugged up? Hey, only in the morning when I
have to confront It's a all right anyway, that's the
big four. Also, they found a handmade metal pipe and

(01:41:02):
another marijuana bowl matching the one outside.

Speaker 7 (01:41:04):
Wow, this guy was, there's another Merrit badge for this.
It's cool to be prepared meat badge.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
And he said, not that I'm aware of. And that's
how much they found.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Exactly he's got. He's driving around a warehouse of drugs
and not that I don't impact your awareness, Kim, You
do know that, right?

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
So turtles have I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Know that's because turtles are protected. Yeah, you're actually right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
What is he gonna sell those or eat them? Or
what's he doing?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
I don't know what he was doing with them, but
it's really not cool. I would I'd say, hey, the
dude is done. You know, did you show his you
showed his booking photo.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
Albert, Yeah, he got a he got about a I
would say on the average of a five or six.
People gave him a three.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Yeah, I think I think he's a five something in there.
But a Flora woman fight off a gat has. The
gator dragged her leashed puppy into a creek while she
was walking with him. Pretty scary. Danny Wright walking her
four month old puppy, Dacks but Trot behind her home

(01:42:15):
in Lando Lakes. Wright says that she rescued Dax, who
weighs only about five pounds. She rescued Dacks a couple
of months ago. He loves everybody, She says. He loves
every dog. He means, I think he liked the alligator honestly.

Speaker 5 (01:42:31):
Oh it's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
She says. Her family has lived in the home for
about twenty years, never seen a gator in the creek ever.
So I walked him back here, which I very rarely do.
The bank between the homes and the creek is small
but steep. Right in Dack's only a few feet away
from the murky creek. He was on a lation and everything,
but I just heard a squeal, she said, and then
I got tugged. The creek has a thick layer of
algae and debris coating the surface, so Right couldn't see

(01:42:54):
anything below the surface. She was standing on the bank
looking away from the creek when she felt a tug
on the leash as soon as he went into the creek.
I went into the creek, she said, and I realized,
Oh God, this is an alligator. Right, says The alligator
had crept up the bank, grabbed Dax, started dragging both
of them down into the water. She says she noticed
that the alligator had clamped its jaws around an air

(01:43:16):
tag on Dax's collar. It looked like you had him
by the throat literally a half a centimeter, and it
would have punctured his throat and most likely killed him.
She says. With one arm, Right ripped ACKs from the
grip of the alligator jaws threw them up onto the hill.
But my left arm was in the alligator at this point,

(01:43:36):
she said. In that moment, Wright knew she had no
choice but to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
For her own life.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
She says, the alligator was about five feet long, which
is about her size. I got him flipped over with
my left arm, and my left arm was in his mouth.
I punched a couple of times. I think I did
like an elbow to him. I got him like right here,
and she gestured he just loosened his grip enough that
I could pull my arm out. She wrestled her arm

(01:44:03):
out of the gator's mouth, grabbed Dax, and bolted up
onto the bank. Wow, you don't have to be.

Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
A bad ass to live in Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Basically, man, look look at little Dacks's okay, now, such
a cute little dog.

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
And you know that woman is now the official spokesperson
for Karina Gator Channel.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Come on, wow, she is a tough, tough cookie, tough customer. Man.
There you have it. Uh, she's saying, put your phones down.
I was on my phone standing here facing the other
way with the creek behind me, and that's when the
whole thing happened. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
She says that, you know, there are no alligators historically
in that creek, but the way you describe it, you know,
kind of murky looking, you kind of have to assume
in Florida, something could be in there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
I agree, it's caterish. Yeah, well it's time. We don't
like to do it, but we are bound by the
bylaws of the program to choose a favorite. I'll remind you.
Here are the stories you just heard of. Florida man
accused of shooting at his quote parasite roommate with an
arrow over a dispute that began with vodka. Fifty three

(01:45:13):
year old Florida man busted with sea turtle eggs, marijuana, meth,
and pretty much every other drug and narcotic that you
could imagine in his van. A Florida woman fighting off
the gator that dragged her leash puppy into the creek
while she was on a walk. We need to pick
a favorite. I'll start with guest commentator Michael Snyder. Well,

(01:45:35):
you know we know about the drug ease. The drugies
are always running rampant in Florida. Yeah, it's old hat
and a woman fighting off the gator. That almost has
me because I know that people just love the gator stories,
but honestly, a vodka infused shooting match with arrows is
the most entertaining and amusing. He likes the vodka inspired throwdown.

(01:46:00):
How about you, Kim, what is your favorite?

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
I'm agreeing with Nancy. I'm going with Gator gladiator woman.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Yeahah, pretty pretty compelling story. Cannot argue with Gator Gladiator woman. Yeah,
how about you, Albert.

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
Yeah, it looks like the chat loves the gator story.
I'm with I'm with the Michael here. I like the
I like the use of a crossbow. I haven't seen
a crossbow.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Crossbow is a machete equivalent. Right, it's Florida LARPing, Let's
be honest, ROCHETI is the other kind of weapon of
choice in Florida. So I'm gonna go against everybody. And
I like the guy with the van full of drugs.
So yeah, well, can I tell you I think that
Spark's medicine, meth, fentanyl, marijuana, he had it all gone,

(01:46:43):
and that just seems to me to be very Florida.
But I I do yield to the to the gator
throwdown because that's a pretty compelling I will. I will
give you that, and even the uh, even the crossbow fight. Yeah,
I think these are three good ones. Albert. I congratulate you,
I commend you. And that is Friday fabulous Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:47:01):
This has been Friday fabulous Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
There is a gigantic calligator.

Speaker 9 (01:47:08):
In my kitchen.

Speaker 8 (01:47:11):
Y'all come back now here?

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
You sure?

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
The Mark Cumpson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Trevor Starr in Hollywood, says, Mark always likes a guy
with a band full of drugs. All right, Uh, ain't
it true? Well, I'm glad you've made it here. We've
tried to get to a lot of different stories through
the day. It has. It's been a challenge, of course,
because there's an awful lot going on. But now comes

(01:47:46):
a palate cleanser to all that ails us. This is
someone who we've had on the show since we were
on the radio in San Francisco, and he stayed with it.
A lot of people would have abandon us, but he
is tracking with it every step of the way. When
it comes to the DC universe, the what's the other universe,

(01:48:06):
the Marvel.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
Union, Marvel you know, don't pitch and hold me into.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
The superhero world. Come, I'm just saying. But when it
comes and then it's some Korean subtitled indie film animation.
He knows incredibly well and music as well. That's why
they call him the culture blaster, and he is here
on Fridays. He comes and goes on a rainbow for
Michael Snyder. Everybody welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:48:31):
We've already been shooting the fat, but I still want
to say hi, to you, Mark, Hello, the wondrous Kim,
and of course are stalwart Albert.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
And I know Tony's out there somewhere. I don't know what.
He's playing a video game somewhere, working one of his
fourteen jobs and must be it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:46):
So I gotta say to begin with to quote mister Colbert,
we are all Jimmy Kimmel, especially those of us who
do this kind of media. And I got to say,
I got to tell you yesterday I'm sitting in the
Allard to Kawanga, which is my go to cafe in Hollywood,
and I was approached by two thuggish looking men in
Maga hats, Roy Cone t shirts and Steven Miller is

(01:49:10):
my spirit rodent buttons, and they introduced themselves as members
of the ice UN American Activities Committee, and they asked me,
are you now or have you ever been a member
of the Mark Thompson Show broadcast team? Oh my god,
of course I stood proudly and responded, absolutely not. And
then I asked him if they'd be interested in sponsoring
my Friday segment.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
On the show. Well done. Yeah, this is astonishing.

Speaker 7 (01:49:35):
You know, when Kim first came into my attention, he
was co hosting The Man Show with that subhuman Adam Carolla,
and I thought, oh, you know, it's Pudge in the
I guess we'd call him at Theanderthal and they're doing
this chauvinistic stuff about women. But he ended up becoming
a staunch fighter for.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
The women, for women's rights and for freedoms. And I
know Jimmy is He's amazing. I've known of him and
known him since he was on k Rock. He was
doing sports on Kevin and Bean. Since Bean is a pal.
I used to listen to that show. I used to
love that. But yeah, there are all these suggestions as
to you know, where he might show up, but it's

(01:50:15):
just it's a it's an abomination. It's unconscionable. You see
Ryder saying, who owns Comedy Central? Colbert and Kimmel pairing
up would be a ratings bonanza. Oh yes, mother's brother's
typere But this is the problem with the new America.
There are a handful of companies that own everything. So
this speaks very much to the problem of contemporary America,

(01:50:36):
which is, if you want to go work at Comedy Central,
guess who owns Comedy Central? Paramount, So that Paramount universe,
which includes CBS, et cetera. It grows and grows and grows,
and soon so much of this may be taken over
by Larry Ellison, who's getting TikTok. So the media empire
is not a bunch of different places where you can

(01:50:58):
ply your trade. It's really just a handful of places.
And if you're xed out of one, you're essentially xed
out of a ton of others.

Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
Speaking of consolidation, just one more media and Larry Ellison
is attempting to acquire Warner Brothers. Imagine two studios of
the nature of Paramount and Warner Brothers and their affiliates
combined into one monolithic thing. It really is a complete
opposition to diversity of opinion and diversity of our culture.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
And I abhorre the whole.

Speaker 7 (01:51:28):
Idea that said, let's continue to feed the giant media
beast by doing some film reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
So far, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:51:36):
So you know, like our friend Michael Shore, I am
a sports fan, but unlike him, I'm also a.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Fan of the supernatural.

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
I tend to doubt that somebody so based in reality
would be as into the horror movies and sorcery and
all that stuff. As I am so I was ready
to be carried away by him, which purports to get
up and close and personal with college football star are
Cameron Cade.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
This is a new film Him and.

Speaker 7 (01:52:03):
Kate is touted as the next big thing in the
pros until he suffers an injury that may derail his dreams.
That's how the movie starts out, So the Gauge's recovery
Cameron played by Tarique Withers. He accepts an invitation to
train with an aging superstar named Isaiah White played by
Marlon Wayans So. White is the longtime quarterback of a

(01:52:24):
dynastic team that's won as many or more championships than
Tom Brady ever did. Arriving at White's remote compound, which
is sort of a combination luxury home and a state
of the art training facility, Cad finds himself facing physical, mental,
and emotional challenges to get increasingly freaky and downright horrific.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I mean him had such promise.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
It's produced by Jordan Peel, the actor turned filmmaker who
made the scary smart movies Get Out Us and Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Him is also the.

Speaker 7 (01:52:54):
Third movie from filmmaker Justin Tipping who here's a local
note for our northern California California friends. He was the
writer director of the very good twenty sixteen low budget
Inner City coming of age drama Kicks, which is set
in Oakland and a few other locations in the East
Bay and features maherschela ali and an important role tremendous actor.

(01:53:16):
So as far as him, Withers and Wigans and the
rest of the cast absolutely delivered the goods. But the script,
which is a group effort by Tipping, Zach Akers and
Skip Bronki, isn't sure what.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
It wants to be.

Speaker 7 (01:53:31):
Is it a takedown of pro sports excess and overpaid,
erroneously worshiped superstar athletes. Is it a horror movie about
the body destroying extremes that those athletes are going to
embrace to achieve success. It doesn't quite work in either endeavor.
It doesn't succeed as I think it hoped it would.

(01:53:52):
You know, I'd classify him as an interesting misfire, like
an attempt at a really long field goal that has
the distance but bounces off the goalpost. Hosts him is
in theaters. I think it's probably gonna play pretty well
at home. It's just not what I wanted. It's not greatness.
You know, I expected more. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I liked what you did there at the end of
your review. I don't think I missed it. It is up.
It hits the upright, yeah, the goalpost and bounce. I
got what you did because it's a football alright, alright,
move on.

Speaker 7 (01:54:28):
All indications suggested that A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey would
be an exciting proposition, since this movie pairs up Colin Farrell,
who is doing such great work lately on the Prestige
TV shows The Penguin and Sugar and has a filmography
to conjure with, and Margot Robbie Barbie and Harley Quinn herself.

(01:54:51):
And this movie is directed by Coganada, the screenwriter and
director of the indie hits Columbus, which was a romantic
drama drama with John Chow and After Yang, which was
a sci fi drama with Farrel And in the case
of A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey, Cooganata only directs the movie,
and I think that's to its detriment. I wish he

(01:55:12):
had written the script here, but the script is the
work of Seth Reese and the script is ambitious in
its reach for a romantic drama with fantasy elements, almost
magical realism, but it also succumbs to the occasional, unfortunately
sticky moment, and like him, it doesn't quite hold together,
although in different ways. So Farrell is relationship wary David

(01:55:35):
and Robbie is relationship scuttling Sarah. These are two really
attractive singles from the same city who meet at a
wedding miles from home, check each other out, and figure
that anything further would be a waste of their time
until they're forced by circumstance to share a rental car
to get back to the city, and they truly get

(01:55:56):
to know one another on the way. So you got
charismatic leads Farrell and Robbie, and they easily laid up
you know, any and all screens. And two of the
supporting actors get this, Kevin Klein and Phoebe waller Bridge.
They are of the highest caliber here. Although the cast
and the direction and the visuals can't be faulted. A big, bold,
beautiful Journey too often meanders, undercutting the big and the

(01:56:19):
bold in the movie's title as it takes it's emotionally
damage to some David and Sarah on a flashback laden
road trip guided by a mystical GPS. That's right, a
mystical GPS. Okay, to be fair, it has its moving
moments that are sold by Farrell and Robbie, and those
moments are undermined by some messy ones.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:56:41):
I rode with it, Mark, even though it's flawed, and
if you're at all intrigued, I do think it will
play well at home. For now it's in theaters. Wow,
like it, like it sort of, but it's flawed it, yeah,
it just it tries to do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
The like involved though you mentioned Colin Farrell, Margot, Robbie,
Kelvin Vainn. I mean you've hooked me, yeah, except you know,
prepared to be disappointed. Okay, let's turn to Swiped.

Speaker 7 (01:57:13):
As Swiped begins, it's the early twenty tens and Whitney Wolf,
an extremely smart and computer savvy young woman fresh out
of college, gets a job at a startup incubator in
Los Angeles. In short order, she becomes pivotal to the
creation of the groundbreaking dating app Tinder, but a relationship

(01:57:34):
with one of the CEOs at the company goes sour
and so does her standing at the company. So this
would be the latest of the tech industry oriented docu
dramas and biopics that have included Jobs, The Social Network, Tetris, BlackBerry,
and Dumb Money, all of which are kind of better
than this. And this is pretty perfunctory stuff despite the

(01:57:56):
latest top notch performance by the very versatile Little James
as ms Wolf Lily James, who was Lady Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
On Dalton Abbey.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
She played Pamela Anderson and Tommy. She's fantastic and she's
completely different here as Whitney Wolf, who would go on
to solidify her feminist bona fides by creating the woman
driven dating app Bumble. So all of this is on
display in this movie, and it's competently directed by Rachel

(01:58:25):
Lee Goldenberg, but it sometimes feels I don't know that
she's not a famous director.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
You know, but she does a nice job.

Speaker 7 (01:58:35):
Yeah, relatively speaking, But this sometimes feels like those other
movies I mentioned were programmed into an AI video generator
along with Chad GPT Final Draft and a twenty nineteen
copy of Modern Woman Magazine. Anyway, James carries the whole
affair as a side note. By the way Dan Stevens
plays the Russian tech exec oligarchy is implied. Who gives

(01:58:57):
Wolf the chance to develop bumble? And this Rhona Stevens
with his Downton Abbey cast James he was the noble
Earl of Grantham, heir Matthew Crawley. She again was the
dewey eyed lady Rose. Look, it's not terrible. Again, we
don't want to put this on the poster, but if
we were going to not terrible, one not terrible, you know,
it's just not as good as those other movies, even

(01:59:19):
if it rightly focused on the issues faced by women
and still faced by women in the bro dominated tech world.
Guess what Swiped is on Hulu. It's a direct to
streaming and you know, if you have Hulu, I would
sit down and watch this thing. It just is not
you know again, I'm looking for greatness, Mark, and these
first three films just disappointed me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Well, I hate when you're disappointed. It always when you're disappointed,
it's a disappointment of an entire community.

Speaker 7 (01:59:46):
Are you ready for a couple movies? I can enthusiastically. Okay,
let's talk briefly about the summer book. Now, The Summer
Book is about a man, his and the daughter's grandmother
spending a little summer time on a Finnish island where

(02:00:07):
the family has a small rustic house.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
And I like it so far.

Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
And this is kind of a bit of a coming
of age, coming to understand what's going on. This young
girl who is played by a very kind of spookily
capable young actress by the name of what the hell
is there in Emily Matthews. She plays the kid Sophia,
and she's she's really really good.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
How old is she?

Speaker 7 (02:00:34):
She must be about eight nine ten, She's yeah, she's
a kid. Grandmother is played by Glenn Close in She's
superb and very believable, playing a very elderly grandmother with
the aid of some seamless makeup. It reminded me a
little bit of Pierce Brosnan's work in The Last Rifleman,
where this handsome man in his seventies. You know, he's

(02:00:56):
no spring chicken, but they make him look like he's
in his nineties, and a kind to think they did
the same thing with Glenn Close here. She is wonderful.
And even though this is kind of a languidly paced film.

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
The beauty of the.

Speaker 7 (02:01:10):
Seaside area, the way the islands in that air, it's
kind of like you. And again this is kind of
about a young girl's growing awareness of the beauty and
fragility of life, and of course the looming specter of death.
Her mom has died.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
That is a.

Speaker 7 (02:01:26):
Single father and you know meanwhile, this is based on
Toby Jansen's beloved novel of the same name, The Summer Book,
and it's in select theaters and directed by Charlie McDowell who,
obviously this is a labor of love and was just
done with a lot of care and affection, and everybody

(02:01:49):
delivers in this thing. It's a lovely, lovely movie.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Languidly yeah, very well done. What else do you have? Okay?

Speaker 7 (02:01:56):
In Plane Clothes, this is another movie I thought, Wow,
this is pretty good. And these are the ones that
kind of I fear they fall through the cracks because
they're not big budget.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
I'm going to like this just based on the title.

Speaker 7 (02:02:07):
In Plain Clothes, it's nineteen ninety seven in a suburban
Upper New York state town, and homosexuality is still vilified,
even if it's become more accepted in the enlightened circles
of places such as New York or Los Angeles. A
young policeman named Lucas is part of a sting unit
to bust gay men soliciting sex in public restrooms, such.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
As one in the local mall.

Speaker 7 (02:02:31):
But this guy has conflicted because he himself is a
closet at homosexual I see. So we connect with Lucas
at his mom's New Year's Eve party, where he misplaces
a letter that presumably admits his true sexuality. But he
didn't intend to be seen by friends or family.

Speaker 5 (02:02:48):
I guess it was just the poorest heart out.

Speaker 7 (02:02:50):
In any case, as his anxiety mounts, someone may discover
the letter. We see the events of the recent past,
including a pivotal relationship with a man that comes in
about as a result of Lucas's undercover activities. So Plain
Clothes is a very dark, painful and powerful movie from
an up and coming screenwriter director named Carmen Emmy. It's

(02:03:10):
blessed by a note perfect performance by Tom Blythe as
the tormented Lucas and an equally on point turn by
veteran British actor Russell Tovey, who was in some really
great shows that you can get on streaming Being Human,
which is like a bunch of monsters, but well meeting
creatures living together. I can't remember whether he was like

(02:03:31):
a werewolf or a ghost. Anyway, it was great. He's
been on Doctor Who, etc. He plays Andrew, the older
man who introduces Lucas to an intimacy that's going to
change Lucas in profound ways, but it's also going to
threaten Lucas's career as a cop. I thought Plain Clothes
was a very well done and it is in select theaters,
and again I think, like the Summer Book, it will

(02:03:52):
also play well at home. But you know, I love
the idea of supporting these little films.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Yeah, you want to go to those indie theaters. I
also like the fact that they're in theaters. Not many
people know so about some of these titles, and so
you don't have to sit there with a bunch of
people on their phone who are chatting and you know,
throwing popcorn at each other, that's for sure. Okay, not
like your your your superhero movies. No, i't have to
put up with a bunch of chatter I know, don't
even from you know, mysteriants. Okay, let's quickly wrap things

(02:04:17):
up with a couple others. London Calling may have a
promising title for a crime comedy, and it's a title
that you just know is going to bring the stirring
clash song of the same name onto the soundtrack. You
just know what's going to happen.

Speaker 7 (02:04:30):
There is a properly square jawed lead in Josh Duhammel,
and he plays a hit man of declining skills and passions,
but London Calling is clunky. The occasional amusing scene aside,
it kind of wastes Duhammel, whose time worn weariness has
made him a more interesting performer as he's gotten older,
He's you know, kind of developed a little bit more depth.

(02:04:52):
And it also has the great Irish actor Aidan Gillen
in a smaller role as a gang boss who travels
to Los Angeles to eliminate Douhammel's character after a London
hit gone wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
So you know, yeah, I like it, So what goes wrong?
What don't you like? It's just silly, you know.

Speaker 7 (02:05:09):
He ends up working for kind of a thumb Amazon factory,
oh like, kind of a mid level mob boss in
Los Angeles who wants him to mentor his doey little
son who's a disappointment to him. He wants to bring
him into the family business of crime. So he gets
Do Hommel's hit man to bring him along on a hit.

(02:05:31):
And you know, they're looking for comedy and it just
didn't really work for me. Alan Ungard directed, and you
know co wrote the screenplay. Again, I wish it had
been better. I go into these things with an open
heart and an open.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
Sure you do, sure you do, and not everybody can
fill that heart. Not every project. Okay, part of that filling.

Speaker 7 (02:05:48):
Here's something I can recommend a little not everybody may like.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
It.

Speaker 7 (02:05:51):
Will wrap up with the charmingly titled Waltzing with Brando.
It is a diverting mix of biopic and comedy based
on the late six He's an early seventies career and
the Tahitian residence e NCEE of iconic and iconoclastic actor
Marlon Brando. So it's written and directed by Bill Fishman,

(02:06:12):
and it is worthwhile.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
It's it's a drama. It's a biopicker to drama.

Speaker 7 (02:06:17):
Yeah it's no, it's also it's also a comedy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
No, it's it's yeah, it's okay, it's a drama.

Speaker 7 (02:06:24):
Well, yes, And no, but it's got bio biographical elements.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
So look, it's a reimagined life of Brando.

Speaker 7 (02:06:32):
Maybe I re imagine it's attempting to actually depict an
amusing fashion. What went on with this attempt on Brando's
part to build a compound on a Tahitian island that's
pretty much off the beaten track.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
So the real.

Speaker 7 (02:06:49):
Reason to see this is an uncanny and incredibly compelling
performance by Billy Zain as Brandow. You will believe it's
Brando that's so cool. So Zaan is paired up with,
of all people, John Heater of Napoleon Dynamite fame as
the La architect that Brando befriends and hires that design
this secluded, eco friendly home on a remote Tahitian island,

(02:07:12):
and the project grows more and more expensive and unwieldy,
spiraling out of control. Again, this is all based on
untrue untrue Yeah yeah yeah, so Heater seems an odd
choice to play the architect whose loving wife and daughter
are frequently left back home in La as he caters
to Brando's whims. But this, you know, he's like that lanky,
perpetually goofy guy and he does give his all in

(02:07:36):
the role and supporting those guys Richard Dreyfuss, Rob Cordry
and Tia Carrera around them. Wow the pros and the cast.
And the cast also includes James Jagger, Mick's son who's
pretty good as a local banker and part of Brando's
Tahitian entourage. There are gorgeous much like the movie The
Summer Book. There are gorgeous vistas, although these are Polynesian.

(02:07:59):
There's lovely exotic musical on the soundtrack, and Zaine is
a wonder as Brando, and he's even digitally incorporated into
old video footage with Dick Caviot. There's a famous Dick
Caviot Brando interview that they reproduced, and he also plays
in some reproduced scenes from Brando classics, including The Godfather,
Last Tango in Paris, and Apocalypse Now, and the movie

(02:08:22):
contends these are jobs he took to help pay for
his Tahitian project, and anyway, waltzing with Brando. It's not
a perfect film. It gets a little silly again. Heaters
seems maybe somewhat miscast, but Zain is amazing and the
story is really really cool. It is in select theaters.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Oh wow, you have really served up a wonderment of
magical offerings. Today, Michael Snyder was waltzing with Brando, the
biopic and comedy featuring the Tahitian residence and the landscape
of the wondrous place that Brando was building and did build.

(02:09:02):
He liked it, he says, it's not perfect, falters a
bit in some places, a little over the top at times,
but he really loves Billy Zaye as Brando. He says,
it's an absolutely remarkable role. It's as good work as
he's ever done in his career. I think, by the way,

(02:09:22):
personal friend of yours, have you played poker with Billy Zay?
No cc ryder said, I heard about the making of
this a while back in Zane's astonishing performance, so there's
a buzz about it that's even extended into our chat,
is my point. Excellent London calling is the Josh Duamel thing.
He plays a hitman. The Culture Blaster feels that Josh

(02:09:43):
is wasted here, that his true talents are really not
on display sufficiently. The movie falls short a bit, but
it's in theaters. It is select theaters. Plain Clothes is
the nineteen ninety seven of that film, the gay life
that was still vilified in even as recent a time

(02:10:07):
as nineteen ninety seven. A young cop busting gay men
picking each other up. He himself gay though, and that
leads to a conflict and a drama that you like.
It's a British cast. No it is not.

Speaker 7 (02:10:22):
It is Russell Tovey is British. I don't know the
actual national province of Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Anyway, I was working off the fact that the one
guy was yeah, well not British.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
But yeah, it's he does find intimacy with this older
man who is British. No, he's playing an American. The
actor is British. I think it's acting.

Speaker 5 (02:10:45):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
You just don't get it. Don't you do your best?
I think you do. Anyway, he likes it. You really
liked it. Thought it was a very good movie. Yeah,
playing clothes is what it's called. It's in theaters. The
Summer Book takes place on the Finnish Island at a
rustic family house Emily Matthews and a coming of age

(02:11:10):
story that Michael really liked. He felt that it's both
stunningly beautiful apparently, and also powerful.

Speaker 7 (02:11:19):
It's moving and quiet and has that quiet power and
Glenn Close is at the height.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Of her powers. Swiped is a movie directed by a
director we are not familiar with, but she does a
fine job. Richually Goldenberg, Lily James is in this film.
It's a tech oriented offering, is what Michael was saying.
That's sort of the story. And sadly, Michael feels that
Lily James is really good. She does all the heavy lifting,

(02:11:48):
but the movie falls short a little bit. She's great.

Speaker 7 (02:11:51):
It's great to get that story about a woman dealing
with Again, like I said, bro dominated tech tech world.
It's another Appin's story, and we've seen a number of
them in the past few years.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
Swiped is the name of the movie. Not bad. It's
on Hulu, you know. Yeah, A big, bold, beautiful journey
is the relationship movie. Colin Ferrell, Margot Robbie, What could
go wrong? Kevin Klein, isn't it well?

Speaker 7 (02:12:17):
Phoebe waller Bridge doing a terrible German accent.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
It meanders, they're moving moments. But Michael felt in the
end again it fell short, not horrible, but just falling
a little short of the potential that the Culture Blaster
felt was on display. Little messy. He says, you can
see it in theaters. Him was the movie that he
started with him. Jordan Peele produced it. It's a football

(02:12:43):
movie or is it a horror movie. It's a mix
of both. Michael just felt it missed and as a
result he cannot recommend him. I want to ask you,
Great Culture Blaster, there were some last second questions for
you that came into the chat. Well, you know, I'll

(02:13:03):
field what needs to be fielded. Does the Culture Blaster
or recommend ask Sergio Sanchez for the five dollars super
chat the canceling of Disney Hulu Paramount in retaliation for Kimmel.
What is your recommendation? No, Great Culture Blast.

Speaker 7 (02:13:17):
This is a problem that I wrestled with, by the way,
coming in here, because again Swipe is on Hulu. I
watch the Marvel stuff. I found it really instructive that
Tatsiana Maslani, the Emmy winning actress from Orphan Black who
plays Jennifer Walters, the she Hulk in the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
basically said that people should cancel their subscriptions to these things.

(02:13:40):
And I understand that people are saying make them pay
with your pocketbook or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
The proper cliche.

Speaker 7 (02:13:47):
Is along those lines. It's hard for me to want
to attack culture or basically lock up culture.

Speaker 2 (02:13:56):
Particularly it's good you're essentially you're saying, if I can
summarize your thoughts, you're saying that the arts exist in
all of these different places, and by boycotting, you, in
a sense, are boycotting creativity and the arts. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:14:12):
And unfortunately the best way to do this is to
boycott sponsors on the broadcast arms. But these companies are
getting money for the streaming subscriptions, for the subscriptions, and
the carrot is the movie or the TV program. And
it's it's a tough thing to say, and I'm conflicted myself.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
I'm the CC rider asks, Oh, great culture blaster, I'm
wondering what top three movies are on your all time
favorite list.

Speaker 7 (02:14:40):
Well, I'm going to seem like what they say in
Jazz Circles is a moldy fig and I'm going to
say that my top three films. If you just held
the gun to my head and said what are they,
I would say Sullivan's Travels, the Great Preston Sturgist movie.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
Hold one second, i think we're going to take off
the hymn the hymn out. Oh this is for those
of us who are watching the videos, so go ahead.
I'm sorry again.

Speaker 7 (02:15:04):
You like what Sullivan's Travels. I think is the greatest
movie ever made.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (02:15:09):
And it's by Preston Sturgis, and it's all about, you
know what, the power of art, which is something we
kind of touched on in my response to the question
about canceling ABC, Hulu, Disney plus my second and it's
almost you know, Neck and Neck. Citizen Kane, the great
Orson Welles biography. I'm not familiar with it, but yeah,

(02:15:33):
don't pull my leg mark.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
And the SS Travels, Citizen kan and what else probably
Duck Soup, the Marx Brothers.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
Wow poem, comedy poem about anarchy. I think it's just phenomenal.
It's one of the most brilliant anti war movies ever made.
And it is a knockdown, drag out comedy that always
makes me laugh, despite the fact that it was made
in the late nineteen thirties.

Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
If I'm not mistaken, Michael, I so enjoy our time together.
Sadly it has ended. You can find Michael Snyder at
Voice of s F.

Speaker 7 (02:16:09):
The Voice SF dot org, where I put a piece
about the final Dalton Abbey. Uh effort, the Dalton Abbey,
the the I guess it's called the Grand Finale.

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
Yeah, the Voice SF dot Org, the Voice s F
dot org and his musings about other offerings there at
the Voice sf dot Org. He's here on Fridays. He
comes and goes, oh yeah, aby, uh new year to
the year. So all my Jewish friends, we'll see you
next week. Now, all right, Michael, very well done. I

(02:16:42):
thought you did a nice job. You got it all in,
which is the mark. I am sadly having to wrap
up around here. Uh, so many things are going wrong,
says Richard Delamater. Screw all this. I'm getting my bong
and if that doesn't work it seems to make I'll
take a hit of LSD. I can't I can't necessarily

(02:17:04):
where a smokers at. I don't know much about LSD
at all.

Speaker 5 (02:17:08):
Starting early for Delamater, I.

Speaker 2 (02:17:10):
Was scared away from it. It worked on me, all
the scare stuff, so never did the heavy hallucinogens. But
good luck. Richard seems happy in his own breaking fake news.
Trump has announced he will resurrect Bob Hope, Milton Berle,
and Don Rickles to make late night TV great again. Wow,
that's that's wonderful. Thank you, Trevor Starr and Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (02:17:31):
Speaking of that new headline popping up, former Disney CEO
ripping ABC's call to pull Kimmel, Michael Eisner saying, where
has all the leadership gone?

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Yeah, I mean again, what I've already talked about this,
so I'm not going to spend a long time on it.
But what Iger's looking at is his need for approval
from the government for the acquisition on the Disney level
of the NFL network. So he's got I mean, this
is big money, and he has a fiduciary response ability
he would say to stockholders, et cetera. But you know,
you have a responsibility as well to yourself to the

(02:18:06):
society that you operate within. It's a you know, but
he's making these cold hearted decisions about well, about the
future of his company and the vision of his company,
and it sounds like it's all dollars and cents and
now you essentially have to bow down, and if you
don't bow down, they're not going to give you the

(02:18:27):
approval that you need. Make America great Again, says Mama Lisa.
Make America great again by giving it back to the
Native Americans. Yeah, yeah, we've crushed it. So here you
take it back. Maybe you can bring it back to life.
Thank you, Mama, Lucy McAllister, my favorite McAllister. Don't know

(02:18:51):
if we can't remember if we've recognized this or not,
but a big shouting shout out. It's so generous. Lucy
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Speaker 5 (02:19:14):
That, Thompson Party of four.

Speaker 2 (02:19:16):
Yes, we're very excited, and thank you for sharing the
show and helping to make that happen. How many new
designs of mugs? Has Michael Shore missed you? That's funny
from Jane Oh love it. Yeah, he's got to get
one one of these days, Louis says, for five dollars.
Pretty funny to give a dude who was against the

(02:19:37):
civil rights movement and against people's freedom the presidential Medal
of Freedom and a national day of morning hashtags. Sad, Yeah,
this is on the Charlie Kirk thing. I like silly,
says Melafidian. That's why this morning I watched My Name
Is Bruce with Bruce Campbell. Oh yeah, Michael, you like
My Name is Bruce, didn't you you. I don't remember
your review.

Speaker 7 (02:19:58):
I don't think I reviewed it, but I am a
bit fan of Bruce Campbell. I think the guy is
hilarious and wonderful, you know, the evil Dead superstar and
buddy of Sam Raimi's always a joy to watch on screen.

Speaker 2 (02:20:11):
Shannon Colby says, we just moved here from the Bay Area.
My husband is from Quito, Ecuador, right, and we decided
to leave and enjoy a more relaxing life. I can't
give up Mark or Kim or the New York Times.
Well that's moue extrano, mooe Exotico Ecuador. I want to

(02:20:40):
go there, and now I got a place to stay,
Shannon Colby. And then first into our chat never acknowledged
was CBD woo who It's ten thirty and I'm in Thanks, Kim,
there you go, all right, everybody, I'd like to continue,
if for no other reason that would make Kim late

(02:21:00):
for her after party live. I like messing with him.
I watched your show yesterday the Nicky Medro Show. Yeah, yeah,
I wouldn't call it to make ano what you want.
There's alcohol involved. I like exactly. I like two drunk
girls talking about the news. That's what the show should

(02:21:21):
be called. Am I right? Michael? And I'm I'm re
branding it right now. They were pitching that to ABC.

Speaker 1 (02:21:27):
Humu.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
I'm telling you, if you want to build an audience,
two drunk girls talking about the news, that will bring
people in. But I know you want to call it
the Nicky Medora Show. Call it that whatever you want. Hey, Look,
I can't force success down your throat. I mean, and
you want to you know, you stick with what you
want anyway. I like the show, that's the point. That's
why I wanted to help it. Thanks everybody for your

(02:21:49):
support this week. It's been a rough week. We'll see
you Monday and until then, The Great Shadow.

Speaker 1 (02:21:54):
I'm Show of Stevens, The Mark Johnson Show.

Speaker 2 (02:21:57):
Bubba Michael, thank you, Thank you to the other Michael,
Michael Shore, My Darling, him My Darling, Albert and all
of you. It's till Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
Bye bye.

Speaker 14 (02:23:01):
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