Trump Targets Leftists, Claiming Unnamed Groups Already Face “Major Investigation” 9/15/25

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was a huge, but I mean immense protest in London
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Allthough's there it is is Tony's showing you a bit
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one sort in a superpower like America or just a
huge power like America, in this case, it's often either
in response to or can lead the sort of change
you can see internationally, and we're seeing some of that now.
So if you're seeing a rise of nativism, I would

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to find work, but even foreigners who are moving about
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to Europe because they don't particularly like Trump or whatever

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That's a little severe.

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We've got a lot to get to. So without any
further delay, although we adore delaying, Uh, let's get started.
Kind of a weird story. And everybody wants to talk

(10:53):
about Charlie Kirk and the aftermath and the investigation and all,
and we will get to all of that. But it
sort of a weird story that there was a bomb
under a news van in Utah. You know, the world
of media has descended on Utah because of the Charlie
Kirk story. And apparently there was a bomb not detonated,

(11:15):
but nonetheless shows up under this news vehicle. Bomb squads
responding Friday, suspicious device found under the vehicle park near
an occupied building. Investigators determined the bomb had been lit.
This is a quote had been lit but failed to

(11:37):
function as designed. The FBI identifying two suspects and serving
a search warrant at a home in the neighborhood West
of the city's downtown. Two men, ages fifty eight and
thirty one were arrested and could face charges related to
weapons possession and threats of terrorism. Yeah, fifty eight and

(11:59):
thirty's it's great that all demographics are getting in on
the terror. And I'll mention that Berkeley, Liberal Berkeley, you know,
the Libs at Berkeley and Libby Libby, Libbville at CAL.
On Friday, after we went off the air, the word
came that they are going to provide information on one

(12:24):
hundred and sixty faculty members and students to the current administration,
the Trump administration. It's part of a federal investigation into
quote alleged incidents of anti Semitism. This happens, as you know,
across the spectrum of academic institutions, big crackdowns in all

(12:45):
of these different places. You know, the celebrated versions of
Columbia and Harbor, but it goes well beyond. And you
can see CAL the office of the President of a
University of California saying that the institution is subject to
oversight by federal and state agencies and that its campus
is like UC Berkeley quote routinely received document requests in

(13:05):
connection with government audits, compliance reviews, or investigations. Trump, of course,
has threatened federal fundings cuts for universities that don't cooperate
and over the pro Palestinian student protests. What's that, Kim,
If that.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Does the same routine handing over the names of a
bunch of students, that's not routine.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, come on, yeah, these are professors and those involved
in all of this stuff. The other thing I just
will mention to you again and then I will get
deeper into the Kirk thing is that the unquestioned demonstrable nature.
And I mean it's both unquestionable. It's been demonstrated in court.

(13:48):
There have been court judgments against bayor Bayer is the company,
the whole the corporation that is part of the pesticide
group that includes round Up. Okay, so they have this
this round up weed killer, right, and it causes cancer. Okay. Again,

(14:11):
that is a demonstrated fact. It's been ruled in multiple
court cases. There have been thousands of lawsuits about this.
Now the GOP controlled Congress could deliver Bayer and round
Up and these cancer causing pesticides a huge gift. There

(14:34):
is a proposal tucked into government spending that could shield
Bayer and other pesticides makers from billions of dollars in
payout to plaintiffs. The proposal follows intense lobbying by Bayer
and other industry interests over the past year. But this
is called of the interesting part. I think it has

(14:57):
gotten pushback from the MAHA people, you know, to make
America healthy again people. There are tensions, it suggested here
between President Trump's political base over the pesticides and the
nation's food supply. And then they flare this this month,
they say these tensions after RFK Junior releases a report

(15:21):
on childhood health that disappointed a lot of MAHA activists
who felt it didn't go far enough to reign in pesticides.
This is something that is pointed to as perhaps something
that will show up in the midterms as people become
disenchanted realizing that RFK Junior is just a toady like

(15:41):
everybody else. He just wants to be in charge of stuff.
He puts all of his people in there, and then
this obvious cancer agent is somehow greenlit, and so we
take another step back in America's health. If Republican lawmakers
vote for the spending bill in its current form quote,

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they are going to face the wrath of Maha in
the midterm elections. Among these influencers, the key ingredient in
certain formulations of roundup is so singularly spurned as it
should be. I might add that there is an activist

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named Kelly Ryerson who's called the glyso Fate Girl. Gleiso
Fate is the key ingredient right in this roundup. She's
called the Gleisofate Girl on social media and she's urged
nearly eighty four thousand Instagram followers to call lawmakers about
this proposal. So giving immunity to chemical manufacturers. She said,

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that's insanity. And I think a lot of these Republican
congress people don't really even understand what the language means
because they're being sold a bag of goods from Bayer.
And again, this industry friendly provision, which basically does bulletproof
Bayer from all of these different judgments, it was introduced

(17:10):
and slipped into this latest spending bill. We'll see what happens.
The spending bill is something we can talk about with
Gary Dietrich as well. But that's just again just a
story that jumped out at me just because once again
you're seeing things revisited that sort of were long since
decided upon. So now the latest on the Charlie Kirk investigation,

(17:36):
I will Mason. I will say that the investigative part
of the Charlie Kirk's story and the assassin is filled
with all of these different pieces of information, some of
which are not in any way tethered to fact, other are,

(18:02):
and there is such a mishmash of both that you're
seeing a lot of public officials essentially, and I include
the governor of Utah who's been very out there and
he's on the weekend shows. I think there's sort of
a regurgitation sometimes of what is a narrative that has

(18:22):
been laid over the assassin's history, motives, etc. So what's
the state of the state? Tony go ahead.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Overnight a tribute in the nation's capital for Charlie Kirk,
the public Congress and the Trump administration gathering at the
Kennedy Center.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
We were soul maids, we were spiritual brothers, and we
were friends.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
On Meet the Press, Utah Governor Spencer Connock saying Kirk
suspected assassin Tyler Robinson is not cooperating so far. Are
the Governor revealing investigators have interviewed family members and those
familiar with the suspect, including his roommate, a male transitioning
to a female who they believe is the twenty two
year olds romantic partner. This person did not have any

(19:14):
knowledge was shocked when they found out about it, one
federal official telling NBC News there's not a solid understanding
of whether there's any connection between that relationship and the shooting.
The conservative activist was openly critical of transgender people and
trans rights.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
You're at war with your own biology.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Investigators have yet to determine a motive. Governor Cox says
while the suspect comes from a conservative family, he had
a leftist ideology and had told a family member he
did not like Kirk or his viewpoints. President Trump weighing
in overnight.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I don't mean to interrupt, but you can, you know,
we can go back a little bit and so you
can hear that part again. But I this is what
I'm talking about. When I say, you know, he didn't
like Kirk or his viewpoints, I mean, no kidding, you
know what I mean. He murdered him. I mean, I
think there's a marriage of we're not really sure what

(20:12):
his ideology is yet, but we have married the left
wing ideology. Maybe he is representing a left wing ideology
with an anger at Kirk. We're also folding in somebody
who's going through transition, who apparently is a romantic relationship
with We're not quite sure. There's a lot of the

(20:33):
information here that feels extremely tentative and based on hearsay
you've just heard. In fact, the piece started with the
fact that the suspect, you know, he's not termed, is
not being cooperative. So we don't really know anything even
from firsthand knowledge in conversations with the suspect. We're hearing

(20:57):
from family members, we're hearing from friends. I get it,
that's how an investigation works. But I'm just suggesting that
the conclusions that are being reached even in this piece
reflect a kind of conclusions that are being reached by
many others. Yeah, go ahead, Tony continue oji.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
And had told a family member he did not like
Kirk or his viewpoints. President Trump weighing in overnight.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
The problem we have is on the left, and they're
already under major investigators. A lot of the people that
you would traditionally say are on the left.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
But some in Washington, noting the recent spate of political
violence has affected both parties, with a Democratic lawmaker and
her husband killed in Minnesota and Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro's house
targeted this year. Senator Mark Kelly, a Democrat whose wife
Gabby Giffords survived her shooting in twenty eleven, speaking out.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
This isn't like one party committing all the violence against
the other. I mean, this is clearly a pervasive issue
in our country.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
It comes as new details about the day of the
shooting have been uncovered, including videos which appear to capture
the suspects movements hours before he arrived at the college campus.
Kirk's widow, Erica, speaking out for the first time just
days after the shooting.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
You have no idea what you just have unleashed across
this entire country.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
And with Tyler Robinson expected to be formally charged tomorrow,
we've learned that Turning Point USA, this conservative organization that
Kirk helped co found, is planning a massive memorial for
next Sunday. It will be at the stadium where the
Arizona Cardinals played, and President Trump has confirmed he will
be there. In the meantime, today, Vice President, jad Van
says he'll be hosting Charlie Kirk's Showman.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So Jade Vans is hosting the Charlie Kirk Show. And
that is the kind of the New America where you
have a significant political figure, I mean Charlie Kirk, As
I say, we went through it that day after his murder.
I went through the relevance of Turning Point USA, particularly

(23:04):
when you talk about the victory of Donald Trump. I
mean I talked about the relevance of Charlie Kirk in
Turning Point USA in comparison to like the Joe Rogan manosphere,
you know, the bro down, and I think you can argue,
and especially I think as an enduring political force that
Charlie Kirk and Turning Point far more powerful than Joe Rogan.

(23:26):
I mean, I don't know the percentages, but I definitely
would say that what you have in Kirk is the
mobilization of young people with a political ideology that is extreme,
but it's not even as extreme as like the Nick
Fuenteses of the world, who are white nationalists and have

(23:47):
an even more intense and radical view of an American future.
So I get that so many in Washington, particularly on
the GOP side have rallied around Charlie Kirk, and they've
lionized Charlie Kirk, and they have he created vehicles essentially

(24:10):
for the devotees of Charlie Kirk's words and movement to
mourn his passing and his murder. It's absolutely reprehensible, it's horrifying,
it's frankly, it's surprising surprising. And I say that because

(24:30):
his his appearance on college campuses and appearance in all
these forms of something he regularly did. I mean, there
was security set up. You'll see that, you know. I'm
sure you've seen them. They're on Instagram, they're on you know, like,
look at this guy to his right. He's going like this,
and he's going like that, and he's going in like
a and then he pulls back and you can see

(24:51):
another guy raise a. You know, there's sort of these
conspiracy theorists that are growing up around the Kirk. Yeah,
specifics when it comes to who's there and what they
were doing. Those people around him are his security people,
and they're really well trained from what I understand and
what I've read, So I guess what I'm saying is
I'm surprised that this area wasn't more secure, just on

(25:17):
a basic logistical sense of things. But that said, it
does appear that this period of unrest and violence in
America and an American politics is something that is picking
up momentum. I would have liked to have seen the
same sort of heartbreak expressed for the Kirk family, for

(25:40):
his wife, for his kids, expressed for the families of
those who were shot in Minnesota, the legislators there. I mean,
I just think that there is an imbalance. But whatever
I mean, you know, we understand that everything is quite

(26:00):
arch I got a note from a guy I know
who I think represents sort of a right wing perspective
on many issues, and he said, Mark, when you were
listing all of the things, all the other political violence,
you mentioned Josh Shapiro's home and the flames that engulf

(26:22):
that house as a result of a Trump supporter and
right wing supporter torching that house. And in truth, it
wasn't a Trump supporter. It was a supporter of Palestinian rights.
And that's why, at least the motive that was expressed,
that's why that house was burned. So I said, I'll apologize, Okay,

(26:47):
you're right. The Joshapiro case. It wasn't a Trump supporter.
It was someone from the left expressing anger over policy
toward Gaza and Palestine. But be that as it may,
it's feeding this assembly line of violence that is scary

(27:09):
in America. And when you hear the verbiage associated with
how the Charlie Kirk murder will inform things going forward,
it's alarming. I mean, it's we're going to pick up
arms and fight back against them, against them who, Now

(27:32):
I understand you're them, If you're those who've articulated this,
you're them. Is the left. It's not even clear to
me that this guy is a leftist. But even if
he is, it's not. That's not the only act of
political violence that's gone down in America. I mean, you know,
the the Whitmer conspiracy, kidnapping and killing, the I mean,

(27:55):
these these political violent acts go across the spectrum. I mean,
we are totally walking past January sixth, where you had
all of these Trump supporters descend on Washington, break into
the capital, beat officers within inches of their lives, and

(28:16):
then storm into the Capitol, deface a number of things
associated with American democracy and American government, and literally try
to derail an election. This is a violent act. And
there were pardons issued for all those people, and then
there has been a political judicial recrimination process that's been

(28:38):
turned on everybody who was associated with getting those criminal convictions.
So when I see that, Donald Trump says this, if
you look at the problem, the problem is on the left.
It's not on the right. He said, like some people
like to share the right, the problem we have is
on the left. And when you look at the agitator,

(29:02):
you look at the scum that speaks so badly of
our country, the American flag burning all over the place,
that's the left, not the right. Trump's comments come after
he began blaming the radical left for Charlie Kirks killing
prior to the apprehension of a suspect, and he's continued

(29:23):
to disparage the left authority, saying that they're still working
to identify a motivation for the attack, and note the
suspected shooters family members come from a Mormon background, are
GOP voters, but say that their son subscribed to a

(29:47):
leftist ideology. They think we'll see, we'll be announcing Trump said,
the left, they're already under investigation, they're already under major
investigation for.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
What for being left from disagreeing with you.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Wow, a lot of people that you would traditionally say
are on the left. Trump said, they're already under investigation.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So well, Nancy Pelosi agrees with you. She appeared in Baltimore,
Maryland this morning talking about gun violence. Of course, her
house was broken into and her husband smashed with a hammer.
The President made jokes about it at the time, but
she said, listen, it is as you said, Mark, what

(30:34):
people say, the things, how you say it, you know,
and then and the unpredictable nature of how what people
hear that is the problem. And unless she said, we
really focus in on what is said and how it
is said, we're not going to stop this kind of
political violence.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, And it obscures what real facts there are because
the media spear becomes contaminated essentially with all of this
information that's not really in evidence. Cash Patel, of course
no stranger to total bs. He is coming under criticism.

(31:18):
I'll get to Gary in just a second. FBI Director
Cash Betel's activities during the investigation of conservative activist Charlie
Kirk's assassination is noted here raised questions about his decision
making during a crisis. This is from four former FBI
officials and two administration officials. From the shooting Wednesday to

(31:42):
a suspects arrest Friday, Patel took steps that gave pause
to some federal and local officials and raised questions about
his judgment. It's almost as though he's not qualified to
have the FBI, which is exactly what we've been saying
since his nomination. His actions ranged from where Patel was
on the evening of the assassination to what a former

(32:04):
official described as his grandstanding about his own role after
the arrest quote, he has heard concerns about how this looks.
There are a lot of shaking heads. In an interview
on Fox and Friends, which is where the administration goes
to get their word out, Patel defended his handling of
the investigation. Could I have worded it a little better

(32:26):
on social media in the heat of the moment, Sure,
But do I regret putting it out. Absolutely not. I
was telling the world what the FBI was doing as
you were doing it, and I'm continuing to do that.
You know, the double down strategy always does work. People
love this strength. I challenge anyone out there, he said,
to find a director that has been more transparent and
more willing to work the media on high profile case

(32:48):
as well. I wouldn't deny that when it comes to
working the media. His handling of the investigation, it suggested
from a senior former FBI counter terrorism official, suggest he's
got zero leadership experience in capabilities. He another said, Uh,
it showcase Patel's public inability to meet the moment as

(33:11):
a leader. I think that it's he was at Rao's
in New York while all of this was going on.
This is after the shooting in Utah, and uh, it's
very hard to get a reservation that Rao's in New York,
and I guess he wanted to want to go. Yeah, yeah,

(33:31):
so that was the you.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Know Thompson Party of four.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yes, that's right. So I know it's a tough rad
So anyway, good luck to you, Cash Patel. That's Thomson.
I've waited all weekend to speak to this guy. He
is truly brilliant and I'm sure he'll give us some
clarity on a number of different issues, including those that
we just touched on here. He is the political analyst

(33:57):
for iHeartMedia across the iHeartRadio network across the CBS television
stations as well. How about it for our palgary Dietrich.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Hey, good morning, Mark and h Boy.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
A lot of a lot has gone under the bridge
since we talked two weeks ago, has no my friend?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, you know, it does feel And maybe this is
just because you know, I'm center left, I guess or
whatever you however, you know, since we're all labeling our positions,
maybe it just seems as though we were kind of
in a pressure cooker to begin with. I'm not a
Trump fan, so everything he does kind of triggers me
a little bit. I have to check myself a little bit.

(34:34):
That's what I think you're particularly good at. But uh,
but you know, the political violence that has informed this
moment does seem as though it's picking up a kind
of momentum that is fed by a discourse in America
that is really troubling, and it's coming from the highest places.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, Mark, I think if there is any commonality in
some of this, it seems to be that. Okay, and again,
just to remind people very quickly may have covered this,
but this want to remind people, Charlie Kirk was shot dead.
Last week we had a Democratic former member of the
House in Minnesota and her husband shot dead. Recently, we

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had Governor Shapiro, a Democrat in Pennsylvania. He and his
family in his house when it was firebomb They fortunately
got out, nobody hurt.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
And we can go down the list.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Of course, everybody knows about the two one bullet fired
and another apparent assassination attempt on the current president, and
we did get out others. I mean, it is concerning
the people. I think on both sides we're hearing that.
And so now Mark, of course, you know you're bringing
up I think people are trying to drill down a
little bit what do we do right? How did we

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get here and where do we go from here? And
I think that one of the things I hope, and
it seems like it's coming.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
It's some unionymity on look.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
We have got to find ways to talk differently across
a panoply of platforms. As you know, Mark, it simply
did not exist ten or fifteen years ago. You know,
they just did not. I mean, guys like you would
talk on broadcasts. We wouldn't be doing this, we wouldn't
be doing podcasts.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
We wouldn't be doing streaming. Certainly we wouldn't be doing
social media.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And now it's a I don't know, it's a brave
new world and a very very challenging one to try
to get. I think two things, Mark, I would say,
try to get some sense of national commonality and what
we hear and think and talk about. I mean, in
the old days, when it was uncle Walter Cronkite and
a few other guys, you know, Huntley and Brikley, those

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names won't meet anything the younger generation. But when we
had three or four network sharing this, we all kind
of had the same basis of things.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
To talk about.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Now, Heck, you and I might hear different things for
ten years, right. That's one thing, And the other thing
I would say is simply that, sadly, as you know, Mark,
for many people, the notion that getting clicks is the almighty,
the be all and end all, and that doing the
most incendiary thing to get those is somehow that is

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worthy is validated.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
Those are both problems.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, it's really great that you touched on that last thing,
because it's what I was going to say to you
as you were talking about the first thing. The first
thing I boiled down a little bit of what you
just said to like, you know, we've all got to
keep our heads and we've got to you know, sort
of have a sense of the goal here. We have
to work together. We're a nation that can only survive
if on some level we work together. But the second

(37:35):
thing you said, it really is I think so very
relevant because this moment in time is informed by a
social media environment that, as you put it, is dependent
on clicks, and the algorithm will serve you more extreme
views because that produces more clicks. The algorithm wants to
make you happy, wants to keep you on the platform,

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and it knows that some tepid mills of the road
position politically isn't the way to get there. It's the extremism.
So you have an amplification of extremism that is built
into all of these independent media sources to which you've preferred.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, Mark, you know this, as you know, has been
drilled down on by congressional committees pretty heavily in the
last year or two, right, and and some accountability trying
to be brought, as you know, brought to the heads
of some of these major companies. I don't even need
to name what they are. You guys all know the
alphabet soup to sort of talk about one maybe, and

(38:34):
it's problematic. I mean, you know, they'll hamm and hall
and they're well, be changing the algorithm this and that,
but of course they will tell you, well, we can't
really tell you how the.

Speaker 8 (38:44):
Algorithm works because that's proprietary. Then we'd be giving away
our trade secrets.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
So we're stuck in something of the Cats twenty two
right now, Mark, I considered it.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
I consider it more.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
You'll know this well, being in La the Labria tar pits,
I mean, you know, the really mammos want to perish apparently,
you know, And it just seems like we're stuck in
this moment and we've got to get unstuck.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
I don't think there's any question. We don't think there's
any question about that.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Well, what we're seeing by government is the kind of
involvement in a lot of these companies, and you can,
I guess we can characterize it as keeping them on us.
But I would say you've seen in this administration an
effort to harass media companies. Again those are my words,

(39:34):
not yours, but I you know, think the shakedown of
ABC I think CBS falls into the same category. It
goes beyond that because the Googles of the world and
these other media platforms of the world that are so influential,
they are similarly beginning to cow to the pressure that's

(39:55):
coming from an American administration that they really need to
stay on the right side of Well.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
It's interesting, though, Mark, to broaden the conversation a little bit.
Over the last four to five years, you've had democratic
you know, majorities in the House go after the same thing,
and you have a lot of it's really become something
of a bipartisan caused to love now to say, look,
we we got to do something. I mean, and as
you know, Mark, there's a real demographic divide that's really

(40:23):
concerning about this. In other words, as much as you
and I have loved the major broadcast media four years,
and as you know, I'm still very involved, but broadcast
television and radular of course across there other platforms as well.
For the younger generation, that is not their Baileywick, it
is not their venue.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
And so they and all.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
The researchers you know, shows this well gets the vast
majority of their information from.

Speaker 8 (40:49):
Their handhelds, and that is.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
You know, for many many years the FCC love them
or hate them, like all their decisions or not. As
you know, they've pleased the podcast media with the giant
threat of their licensure over their heads.

Speaker 8 (41:04):
And you know this is a really big deal.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I mean I've been in some local TV stations where
you know, they had to have the obligatory files over
in the GM's filing cabinet, and they came in and
looked at those, and I mean, you did run some
serious risk. Now it's the wild, wild West, and it
is we've got to find a way somehow to bring
some common ground, and I dare stay some common sense

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because right now it truly I think most people believe,
I don't know how you feel, Mark, the things are
truly in some sense out of control.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
No, that's kind of what I was saying at the
beginning when I was talking about political violence, picting and momentum.
I'm really glad we're having this conversation because I think
it's really interesting because what you're talking about, what Gary
speaking of, is of the notion generally anyway that you
somehow keep some sort of regulation akin to like FCC
regulation on equal time or whatever. It might have been in

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the old days we had broadcast entities that were affected,
but that you have some sort of governor on the
kind of hate speech that is becoming so common across
all of these different platforms that are completely unregulated, so
they're only regulated by their ownership by the people who

(42:21):
run them, so they can be tweaked up and down.
But there aren't any cool heads on the command bridge.
And I'm wondering even with this group having declared and
I'm talking about the Trump administration most recently, now we
get to the kind of the issue of the day,
declared investigations on these leftist groups and really calling the

(42:43):
radical left the source of all of these acts of
political violence. I mean, really, that's what they've done. They've
skipped over some of the stuff that you've talked about,
the Minnesota legislators, the Josh Shapiro bombing, whatever it might be.
The idea somehow that this administration is going to police
is sort of something that objectively can't be viewed as

(43:05):
necessarily a positive thing, or I'll put it this way,
there's certainly that they don't seem to be neutral arbiters.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Well, and they and of course Mark to your point,
they're not seen as credible artis arbiters because of that right.
They have an agenda and a perspective, and that's why
they can't be seen as it's truly independent.

Speaker 8 (43:27):
And this is why, by.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
The way things like the FCC were created, it was
supposed to be and function I think in most people's
minds fairly well for a number of decades independent of
a political agenda. Right, there was a very clear and
very specific set of guidelines. I mean, you remember even
committeans joking about the seven words you couldn't say on air.

(43:49):
There was all kinds of community standards that were very
specifically delineated, and if you did not follow those you
risked losing your actual license to broadcasts. And now there
is almost nothing. And I have to say it doesn't
really matter. I don't care how free market you are.

(44:09):
You know, only the very very very tip of that
spectrum of free market folks would contend that there wasn't
a purpose for having regulations for railroads, for child labor.
You could go on a long list of you know,
you can't let big pharma just police itself and put

(44:30):
whatever it wants in a medication. No, the FDA is
there for a reason. I mean, you know, you could
just go down a list of yes. I think there's
a growing recognition that, truly, I'm going to say this again,
things are out of control in some real sense and
there's got to be some societal collective yes, maybe governmental

(44:52):
role as well in all of this.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Well, what's happened across America in different places is that
can unities are coming together. They realize that government isn't
going to be there for them, and there have been
real efforts to have communities police themselves. And this can
only be done to some extent on some things, things

(45:15):
like you know, additives in food and regulation that's related
to the financial markets and the environment. And you saw
that they no longer going to require any reporting on
greenhouse gases and any kind of pollutants at all from
so many of these various factory polluters. I mean, these

(45:36):
are giant corporate polluters that no longer need to worry
about reporting that to the government. So you've seen the
rollback of those regulations. And again, community banding together isn't
going to be able to do much there, but you
do see that people are as a collective taking things
into their own hands as best they are able, and
that in a way is a bad sign. I mean,

(45:57):
the idea is, I think that government represents us, and
we've become so disconnected from government. It seems to me,
Gary that we feel as though it doesn't represent us anymore.
And the US is a significant enough in number that
that's a concern.

Speaker 8 (46:14):
Mark, I think you're onto something really important.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Before I comment on that, I just want to say
that specifically rightstore conversation and today about information flow and particularly.

Speaker 8 (46:23):
To the younger generation.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That's why you have even recently, you know, governor Local
and New York saying there's going to be no cell
phones in our schools state statewide, right, And you're seeing
this in red states and in red school districts as well.
I mean, I think there are going to be to
your point, some folks in their communities, in their states,
in their regions certainly taking some matters into their own

(46:46):
hands at least trying some things to make some changes. Now,
you know what you were just commenting on, I think
is it's a big concern.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Really know, you know what the final solution. An answer is,
nobody has been able to really delinate what it is.
But I think what we can agree on, and I
hope we can agree on it's not one side problem. Okay,
if we can't at least agree that, you know, there
were different kinds of people, different kinds of motivations that

(47:18):
carried out these acts of violence in the last eighteen
to twenty four months.

Speaker 8 (47:22):
I don't know where we start.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's true that once
the violence is uncorked and picks up this kind of momentum. Yeah,
people on both sides can be swept in. It's this
is to be continued. Obviously. It's interesting to me and
one of the things we touched on and I mentioned this,
I'd love to just get your take on it. You know,

(47:45):
in England over the weekend there was a massive demonstration
there and this speaks to sort of a rising tide
of nativism perhaps or of you. You can tell me, Tony,
will you run a little bit for Gary of what
happened in Great Britain? And I just wanted to get
your take on it because we were speaking before in

(48:07):
sort of broad terms. I haven't really gotten into this
in a very specific way. I was making the point that,
you know, oftentimes these political movements they occur internationally. We
see it all of course from the standpoint of the US,
but there can be these trends politically that can very
much conform to things that are going on overseas as well.
Here's a little bit of what was happening in England.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
It was built there's a march in support of free speech,
but in reality many of the chants and the speeches
were protesting against immigration. The British police said over one
hundred thousand people took to the streets, waiving the British
Union flag and the English flag of Saint George. They

(48:51):
need to stop a legal migration into this country. It's
tearing us apart. The organizer was a far right anti
Islam campaigner who calls himself Tommy Robinson. His real name
is Stephen Yaxley Lennon and he's done time for assault,
contempt of court and mortgage fraud. Some of the protesters

(49:13):
were also from the far right. Others said they were
just frustrated about immigration and especially asylum seekers. The march
follows a summer of small but angry protests outside hotels
used by the British government to house asylum seekers at

(49:34):
the weekend march. Elon Musk dialed in with a warning
for the British people.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
To you you either fight back.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
There was a much smaller counter demonstration by anti racism
protesters as the police worked to keep the two groups apart.
There were scuffles and several arrests.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So there you have it. I just wanted you to
see a little bit. I wanted us all to just
dip our toe into that because, as I say, I
think it reflects an international trend. Can you speak to it?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, Mark, And it does tie in with what you
said just a few moments ago. We know from all
the research, and I mean from my dear Harvard Kennedy
School at their annual survey of youth across all demographics
even internationally, that the belief and confidence in one's own
institutions and others include government, they're kind of across the

(50:32):
But you know, Mark, that has been on the decline,
fairly steady decline for the last couple of decades.

Speaker 8 (50:38):
And that was to your earlier point. And it's true
internationally as well.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
The demographics are not different in places like InGaN, other
places in Europe and other places around the world, and
that is a serious concern. Why because if you don't
have a basic, fundamental, sort of cooperative sense that okay,
we're all in this together and we're going to create
institutions that you know, bolster the best in US and

(51:03):
in our.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
Historic beliefs, then you really are.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Sowing the seeds of not only discard discord, but you know,
in some cases people would say near anarchy and first
of thought and then of action. And I think that
that is a growing concern, and it's one that in
the West in particular. And I bring this to our attention,
you know, on Mondays is you know, on a semi
regular basis, you know that I remind people, you know,

(51:30):
you got to be careful in your circle and the
covered wagons and start firing inward, because there are very
major challenges than threats globally and internationally that the U
West and the US in particular and our population needs
to be very aware of. And this is not to
be alarmist, it's not to be in any way ethnocentric.
It's simply the facts. And you know, we've talked about

(51:52):
some of these market and I think it's it's very
important for us as Americans to say, look, we've got
to find some common ground because we do need in
some sense to continue to stand together and hold one
another accountable as well as hold one another up.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I mean, the rhetoric at the top is pretty scary, though, Gary.
I mean that the idea that somehow it's all the
left and these radical leftists are ruining America and the
left is behind all the violence, the left is behind
all our problems. I mean, that's pretty scary, and it's
coming from the highest levels of this administration.

Speaker 8 (52:22):
Yeah, right, And it's not accurate.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I mean, I try to make this, you know, just
abundantly clear when people hear me, as you know, it
doesn't matter what platform I'm on that you know, I'm
going to, as you know, Mark, hold people accountable appropriately.
There's not going to be an agenda on my part.
And that statement by the President, of course, was not accurate.
It is not all about the left, it is, I mean,

(52:46):
and we're just already talked about that today.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
There are examples one can.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Site from the facts just in the last twenty four
months of provocations of exaggerations of denigration of violence on
both sides.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
And that's that's the facts. And there's no getting around that.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
What's the latest don redistricting in your view? Just give
us a sentence for the mid terms, the redistricting, the
redrawing of maps in Texas and California, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Well, if it's growing by leaps and bounds, we know,
of course about Texas and California. The next big shoot
to drop in terms of numerically on that, as you know,
mark comes seven weeks from tomorrow when Californians will vote
on you know, the governor and the less Hitches plan
to have a mid decade redici thing in California.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
It's a big deal. They just came out over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
There's going to be two hundred and eighty one million
dollars they're estimating spent just to hold the election. I'm
guessing it at least that's much or more spent on
the election by both sides. So you're talking over half
a billion dollars going to drop, and already is beginning
to drop in.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
The next two months.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
But now you're going to you're seeing the momentum pickup.
Missouri is about ready to make a change in their masks,
could pick up one red seat. But now you've got Kansas, Illinois.
On the Democratic side, you got Florida in process down there,
so you've got at least a half a dozen more states, Mark,
to answer your question more specifically, that are going to
roll out. It looks like some form of mid decade

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registerricting before the next year's midterm election.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
So you'll have to tell us as you follow the
bouncing ball, when it all settles, when that last bit
of dust saves, how the map could look. In other words,
you know how the numbers actually good look?

Speaker 8 (54:34):
Yeah right?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
And Igain, I remind you that this has done state
by state, so that's why people get confused, why these
a seven or eight states and nobody else, because it's
a state by state process. And secondly, you know, a
reminder that just because you jerrymander doesn't guarantee you're.

Speaker 8 (54:51):
Going to pick up those seats.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
So much is happening, I mean on a daily basis,
as you know, Mark, that the actual sort of pulling
map who's likely to win next November, that is in
twenty six we are a long long ways from being
able to determine that.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, it's fascinating too. Then let's face it, I mean,
they took this genie out of the bottle mid decade, right.
I mean this was a move on the part of
the Texans to do something that really isn't typically done.
And now the party is on.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yes, yeah, the party by both parties is on. If
you want to go on a party, I think most
people in the American people would going no, there's a
no parties, friends. This is the last kind of garbage
we want to deal with. But the facts star mark
and there's no getting around this either. There's a lot
of people with stakes in twenty twenty eight, the governor
of California, governor of Illinois, Republicans, Democrats, et cetera, who

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have a lot of let's just call it personal political
self interest in how this turns out.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Gary, so appreciate our conversation. I think these are darker
times than I've seen. And really, I mean I was
a kid, you know when the political violence that was
that took over America. You know, in the sixties it
hit and it wasn't just the assassinations of MLK and

(56:13):
rf K and JFK. It was cities set on fire.
It was a really dark decade the sixties, and from it,
that crucible of horror came some good things, civil rights
and things that really seemed as though we were going
to get to a better place after all of it,
and now it seems as though we've kind of regressed,

(56:34):
and it's just it's scary. It's a bit scary, to
be honest.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah, I agree, it's that as was there might have
my own alma mater, you see, Santa Barbara. People may
not know this, the Bank of America was burned to
the ground by students, and Ronald Ready famously said in
the National Guard. Then, I mean it's been it's a
long history, Mark, and I don't know if I've shared this,
so maybe I can end with this.

Speaker 8 (56:58):
My own personal journey.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
And politics began at our black and white TV set
in our living room.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
The oldest political.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Memory I have is that watching the JFK funeral procession
when I realized how important politics was. Is when I
looked over at my dad and he was crying as
a World War Two vet who was a Republican by
the way, but watching our democratic president's funeral procession touched
him deeplif And that's when I realized, oh, wow, this

(57:25):
political warrine is really important.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah, And that speaks also to that inflection moment, that
political violence that touched her father the way it did,
even as he came from a different political perspective than
perhaps the president who was killed. So appreciate you, pal,
Thank you so much, look forward to Thanks Mark a
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Speaker 8 (58:24):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I love it. How would you have this?

Speaker 8 (58:28):
We could try ignoring it.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Sir, mining you cannot say you love your country.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Where are my weed smokers at?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Stay at home and get baked.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Thank you everyone for joining us. I am disturbed by
this that I see in the comments section from Trevor
Starr in Hollywood. Sandy is responding to somebody in the chat.
Mark never uses the drop size send him, so I
stopped sending them. Well Trevor. First of all, thank you
for all the drops you sent in the past, although

(59:02):
the statute of limitations on your kindness and sending all
those drops is pretty well running out. I mean, it's
time for you to step up, Trevor Starr in Hollywood
and do something else. Do something else for the show.
But I called out for the chill a drop. I

(59:25):
forget what it was a couple of weeks ago. Somebody
was in Florida. Maybe somebody said I was just chilling
or something. It was a that would be a good drop,
and I said, Trevor, maybe you can get it. Thought
I said that. Anyway, when it didn't come in, I
knew that I'd lost my Trevor forever. It was a sad,
sad tale. But anyway, Trevor, get back on the drop train.

(59:47):
But you can't send me seventy drops and expect me
to integrate them. We were very specific about the drops
we use. Isn't that right to Tony? I think we're
specific about that.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Who is having that lass?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Well, it's anyway, this is the one he likes. All right. Now,
I've got Kim's news and I've got a lot of
other stuff to get to man, I am truly, you know,
it's there's so much going on in America right now.

(01:00:25):
I'm glad we got to a bunch of it with
with Gary, and I also, I think these are there's
a darkness about things right now, and I'm trying to
find the light or also trying to find the strategy
toward the light. And yet I'm also trying not to
ignore so many things that are important. So anyway, so

(01:00:48):
in keeping with the general energy of the show.

Speaker 8 (01:00:54):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I don't know about this, I'm just looking at this.
CC writer says democrats and operatives are brainwashed and conditioned
to always accept partial responsibility for behavior on the right.
The behavior needs to be unwound. Grenache says Mark and Kim.
I couldn't help but notice all the pushback on Gary's

(01:01:17):
appeasement to the right today. I don't know if he was.
I thought, actually, it's interesting you to say this, because
I thought Gary was quite critical and not accepting of
what is being said by the president and by the
current administration. That was my take on it. In fact,
I kind of noted that, you know, because Gary usually

(01:01:40):
kind of repositions me and says, look, this has happened
this way, it's happened under this administration, that's happened. You know,
he kind of tries to recalibrate some of my anger
or some of my outrage, some of my reprehension about things.
And yet I found him today to be unequip condemning

(01:02:02):
what was coming from this administration, blaming the left. So
it's very interesting. I mean, I got a completely different
notion about that conversation than you did. So I don't
know anybody watching the Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix. There's
this documentary about Charlie Sheen. He was man. That guy

(01:02:29):
lived hard, and I think he's cleaned up his act now.
But I'm I'm mentioning it to you because you might
find it a useful distraction. Yeah, A lot of the
interview and a lot of what he talks about takes
place right there in this diner, which is really kind
of interesting just as a setting. But you forget what

(01:02:52):
a train wreck this guy's life was. And I'll tell
you something else that I didn't know. I mean, I
had a general sense of it. But this guy grew
up Charlie Sheen did with the greatest opportunities one could
ever want. He grew up in Malibu, the son of
a star Martin Sheen. He was handsome, Charlie Sheen. He

(01:03:15):
was from a family that was supportive, and he was
in He became a star so early in his life
that he could live large right away. And they got
wrapped up with the Heidi Flices thing, which honestly, I
just had forgotten all of this stuff. And you get

(01:03:37):
they have his drug dealer in the among those people
that he talks to. I mean, imagine that his drug
dealer like this nice guy. I mean, it's just a
very uh I think interesting and that's his you know,
I told.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Him you were getting a little too into that cocaine, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Well, and his drug dealer said, I was kind of
call because I was making so much money just going
there and hanging out with him. And he said, I
don't know that is that's his drug dealer on the right.
Thank you watching on YouTube. H He's I don't know
how he did as much as he did. It was

(01:04:17):
so much in the way of drugs. He said, it
would have killed anybody else. Somehow he was able to
do it. He had this constitution that was able to
take it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Didn't has dad lived to like a really old age.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
His dad's still alive. Martin Sheen is he? Okay, An
isn't he? I'm pretty sure he is. Perhaps google it, yeah,
I mean it seems like a google abol thing, but
I'm pretty sure Martin Sheen's he played the president in
the West Wing. You know that's Martin Sheen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, he's still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
He's eighty five. Yeah, and he is in the documentary
because he was quite vocal at the time that a
lot of crazy stuff was happening with Charlie Sheen. But
he did not agree to sit down and be part
of the documentary per se. In other words, there's no
interview with either him or I believe one of the

(01:05:15):
brothers isn't part of it either. They note specifically who
isn't you know? Who declined to be who's the yeah
and yeah? So when Sean penn Is talked to talk,
they talked to him in the interview, And I mean,
these guys all grew up together in Malibu. They were

(01:05:37):
like these Malibu kids. I mean, guys, it's the kind
of life one can only imagine. This is just idyllic existence.
It was just insanely terrific I mean imagine looking like
this incredibly handsome guy and being cast in these films
and being good. I mean, Charlie Sheen was a good actor, Yeah,

(01:06:00):
and he acted comedy very well. And Two and a
half Men was terrific. Then should they talked to Chuck
Laurie and so who's the creator of two and a
half Men? Anyway, we still have about we have about
We have about forty minutes still to go on it.
It's two parts, but it's a good watch man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
When we get to the point with Two and a
half Men where they actually couldn't do the show because
he would come all like you know, zonked out on
drugs and he was jittery and like crazy and saying
weird things and they just kind of stop exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
They get to that. They get to that in the
second episode and John Cryer they do speak to him,
and he's really great. I mean he speaks very I think,
generously and thoroughly about what was going on, like in
an unvarnished way. John Cryer talks about what was going on,
but he doesn't like take any cheap shots or whatever.
He just speaks openly and honestly about it. And no,

(01:06:58):
I don't play poker with she I don't think he
plays poker. He's too busy doing eight balls or whatever. Yeah,
you can't. I can't see the cards with all this
cocaine on the table. That's the problem. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
He's gone through wives like wife after wife after wife.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I don't know what this is a right exactly.
You see how his life is. You know, was this
train wreck case, Ada says, terrific. It's a horrible it's
horrible parading his drug dealer around after infecting people with AIDS. Well,
I haven't gotten to that part, like who he infected
with AIDS. Maybe you can help me with that. I'm
I'm I'm literally just relating the documentary. It's definitely I

(01:07:41):
just said it, the guy's life of a train wreck.
You see it over and over. But you see how
he had so much going for him and yet you
know it's it clearly was it was doomed to failure.
I mean, he was definitely someone who Yeah, John Crier
and Charlie Sheen had a pretty good chemistry on that show.

(01:08:02):
Oh yeah, says John Watson. A Crier is a brilliant
comedy He's a brilliant actor. But He's a brilliant comic actor,
you know. I mean, I've watched John Cryer on different shows,
and like with a critical eye, I've watched him and
I go, man, that's just so good the way he
takes an extra beat somewhere before he turns, or.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
If you afterwards and say, hey, I really like the
way you did that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
No, I'm telling you this. I've never told him that,
but I mean I think he you know, he doesn't
need to hear it from me. But I guess what
I'm trying to say is that, you know, he doesn't
punch a joke like that, you could be tempted to
punch a punchline order. He's just I think he's so gifted. Yeah,
and that's a Lisa Joyner his wife, and they are
just wonderful people, wonderful people. But anyway, that's right. I forgot.

(01:08:50):
We did the show from John Cryer's house one day.
Remember the internet went down and I had a run
to somebody's house and we went to John Cryer's house
and did the show. So yeah, but anyway, he's great
in this documentary. The documentary has all of these different
people contributing in the way of interviews. But obviously Crier
was part of that two and a half men thing,

(01:09:11):
and it's just insane that his, uh, his life came
so completely unspooled, unreal. So I recommend it. We're just
in the middle of it, all right, smash the like button.
I know we've done a lot of stuff today. That
was a little digression, So we get away from the
iron rock, the politics of the moment, Kim's News and

(01:09:34):
we continue Mark Thompson's show, The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
On The Mark Thompson Show, I'm Kim McAllister. This report
sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. FBI director Cash Patel
says Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter texted his plan to take
out the conservative activist. Battel said the suspect, twenty two
year old Tyler Robinson, sent someone a text before the

(01:10:06):
attack saying he was going to do it because he
hated what Kirk stood for. When asked why the person
who received that text didn't say anything, Patel said, the
investigation is ongoing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, Batel, I wonder is that something that you actually
Cash Pttel found in FBI investigation or is that something
that you heard somebody say and then you repeat it
or put it on social media, cash battel. You are
a total abject failure. You had to turn in that jacket,
turn in your credentials, and go back to doing what
you did and we're good at, and that is podcasting

(01:10:39):
and sucking up to Donald Trump by writing children's books.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Vice President JD. Vance hosting his the latest episode of
Charlie Kirk's podcast, paying tribute to the conservative activist. On
today's edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, Vance praised Kirk
as a visionary and illuminary who created a whole social
network for an higher generation of young people. Of course,
Vance escorted Kirk's casket back to his home state of

(01:11:05):
Arizona aboard Air Force two last week. This was kind
of it almost seemed like a photo op. And I
know there's a video of it somewhere, Tony, but Republican
Senator Ted Cruz of Texas says, the Apartment of Transportation
in his home state is well aware there it is. Yeah,
you're fast, Tony well aware that he took action involving

(01:11:25):
some graffiti next to a Houston highway. Someone apparently had
spray painted some obscene message about Kirk, and crews took
it upon himself to paint over the graffiti with some
white paint. He is ripped to the side of the road,
got out there painted over it in his suit. Look anyway,
there he is painting it over. It was kind of

(01:11:46):
a photo op. And the short videos all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Now that's what he'd see. It starts with the man
in the mirror. Everybody, you don't like what's out there?
You can you know, I don't know. It's a It
was a viral moment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I suppose well, so much for freedom of speech. A
UCLA employee is on leave after posting comments about Charlie Kirk.
The social media comment by the employee said, you can't
force people to mourn someone who hated us, and it's
okay to be happy when someone who hated you and
called for your people's death dies. UCLA says it condemns

(01:12:23):
in the strongest possible terms, comments made by its employee
on their personal social media account, adding comments that celebrate
or condone violence will be inconsistent with their core values,
and the university has launched an investigation. The drone pilot,
who admits to damaging a super scooper during the Palisades fire.

(01:12:44):
Set to be sentenced today. Peter Ackman pleaded guilty to
a federal Class A misdemeanor for the unsafe operation of
an unmanned aircraft. The collision with a drone put the
three x six inch gash and the plane's wing, taking
it out of commission for several days crucial days along
with a brief along with agreeing to pay full restitution

(01:13:06):
to the government of Quebec, which supplied the plane, and
one hundred and fifty hours of community service and support
of the wildfire relief effort. Akiman also faces up to
a year in prison for that drone incident. Good day, Sir,
President Trump, bringing back his threat to federalized police in
the nation's capital. The president's thirty day takeover expired last week,

(01:13:30):
but Trump is suggesting he's open to federalizing the department
again if it does not cooperate with ICE operations. DC
Mayor Muriel Bowser voiced concerns the administration that their immigration
enforcement operations are causing residents to live in fear. Romania
says it scrambled a couple of fighter jets over the

(01:13:52):
weekend after Russian drones violated as airspace came less than
a week after Russian drones violated Polish air space. Another
NATO country, Romania, summoned the Russian ambassador after the incident,
while the European Union called the airspace incursion a reckless
escalation treasure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Definitely, it's definitely getting more tense over there, without question. Yeah,
and this is increasingly these incursions into NATO airspace. I mean,
there at some point it's a provocation that's going to
get some kind of response that you know, that could
escalate easily. I me, it's definitely we're feeling the instability

(01:14:33):
of both the alliances and also the piece, if you will.
I mean, since there's already a war raging in Ukraine
and Russia, and the spillover, could you know, could easily happen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
I mean, they must know they're doing it. You would
think it wouldn't be so hard to control a drone.
I've never flown one, but I mean you would think
that they would know that they're, you know, dipping into
someone else's airspace when they do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
I don't know. I mean again, I would agree. I mean,
that's the whole idea of the drone is that you
you program its course and you can guide its course, right,
But I don't know what happened in the specific instance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is indicating that a TikTok deal
is close best, confirming there's a framework for a TikTok
talk deal. It's not like a framework.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Concepts of you have a plan, yes or no, you.

Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
Still do not have a plan.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I have concepts of a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
So there's a framework for a TikTok deal. Yeah, it's
after trade talks between China and the US took place
in Madrid today.

Speaker 8 (01:15:43):
Beid, I have concepts of a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
He says. President Trump and Chinese President Jijimping will talk
on Friday to complete all the details.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Do you want to play that? Play Trump speaking about that, Tony.
This is a Trump talking about TikTok and the likely.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
I may or may not negotiating pigtok right now. We
may let it die or we may I don't know.
It depends up to child. It doesn't matter too much.

Speaker 8 (01:16:11):
I'd like to do it for the kids.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
They like it. I mean, selflessly speaking, I did very
well on TikTok, and I got the youthful, and I
got numbers that nobody's ever even come close to in
the Republican bard and you nobody. You look back to
Romney and all these people that got practically no votes.
I got a lot, and some was attributed to TikTok,
and a lot was attributed to Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Yeah, so that is true what he's saying. You know,
TikTok and social media did help animate Trump's rise to power.
And I'd say X was probably the biggest platform for him,
but you know, maybe it was TikTok. TikTok's a bigger
platform than X. I think that the future of TikTok
is interesting from the standpoint of content because they're already

(01:16:55):
taking down all the political content and all the news
content from TikTok. It's an extraordinary thing that's happening. So
my friends who spend a lot of time on TikTok
tell me that just completely different. It's going to be
completely They're going to take away all the politics and
all the news, and so TikTok will be a husk
of what it was now. It'll be likely this is

(01:17:18):
what I thought was going to happen. It'll be turned
over as a gift, almost in a fire sale sort
of way to friend of Trump. Fill in. It might
be Jared Kushner's brother who's circled it. They are a
bunch of those tech bros who are the billionaire boys
club that is part of the dinners that Trump has

(01:17:41):
and just had one last week or the week before.
I mean, you can gift TikTok to a consortium of
these type players and then they can mess with it
the way they want to. But I think that's the
likely outcome with TikTok. But already, is my point, they
have dradically changed with TikTok is so no longer will

(01:18:02):
you be able to go there for politics or news
or the proprietary algorithm that made TikTok so popular.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
The interest rate cuts that President Trump has been asking
for maybe on their way. The Federal Reserve is indicating
that it will announce a rate cut this week. Following
a series of poor jobs reports. Trump has been going
after FED chair Jerome Powell, referring to him as too
late Powell for his refusal to cut rates. New York

(01:18:30):
Governor Kathy Hockles moved to endorse Zorun mom Dami for
New York City mayor, drawing some criticism from President Trump,
president calling Hokeel's endorsement of the Democratic Socialist a rather
shocking development and a very bad one for New York City.
Hokal announcing her support for Memdami with a New York
Times op ed where she praised his affordability platform and

(01:18:53):
also indicated she does not agree with all of the
state assembly member's goals. The Trump administration and is redirecting
millions in funding to historically black colleges and universities. Secretary
of Education Linda McMahon said the department was redirecting financial
support away from ineffective, discriminatory programs towards those which support

(01:19:16):
student access. The redirected funds were gifted and were Gifted
and Talented programs and initiatives that support minority students in
science and engineering. The nearly five hundred million dollars boost
coupled with an extra one hundred thirty seven million for
American History and Civics education, as well as sixty million

(01:19:36):
for charter schools. Many people have diabetes but might not
know they have it. That according to some new data
published in the Landset Diabetes and endocrinology, which shows forty
four percent of people fifteen years or older who have
diabetes are undiagnosed. Researchers looked over data from more than
two hundred countries from the year two thousand to twenty

(01:19:58):
twenty three for their study. More than ten percent of
people worldwide have diabetes. They say at the movies, Demon
Slayer Infinity Castle is ruling the box office that after
an historic opening weekend, the Japanese anime movie enjoyed a
seventy million dollar opening weekend in North America, the biggest

(01:20:20):
domestic opening ever for an anime film. It beat out
The Conjuring Last Rites, which earned over twenty five million.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I mean it's pretty big news when an anime film
is the top movie. It's a box office don't you think, Yeah,
a Japanese anime film. I mean I think that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Yeah, you know, seventy million dollars in its opening weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
It was advertised all over Comic Con this year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
They had the whole building, the Marriop building.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
It was it was going to be a big deal
this week. I see, I see, okay, big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
If you're looking for a happy place, you know, maybe
you're not finding it at the anime movie. But if
you're looking for a happy place, you will find it
in the state of Hawaii. Aloha everybody. Finance website while
at hub comparing all fifty states to determine which was
the happiest based on more than two dozen key metrics.
They included income growth, unemployment, depression, depression rates, and Hawaii

(01:21:16):
was ranked the happiest state. It was followed by Maryland, Nebraska,
New Jersey, and Connecticut. On the opposite end of the list,
West Virginia came in last. Aren't they really close, West
Virginia and Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
You know not, I mean general proximity. But it is
interesting because I always think West Virginia the mountains, Blue
Ridge Mountains. I think West Virginia's tunningly beautiful. I'm surprised
by that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Not beautiful like Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
I mean, look at that. That's really pretty. It's a
different kind of beautiful. I mean, it's West Virginia's gorgeous.
It's interesting to me that it comes in at the bottom.
But I mean, Hawaii is just I mean, it's magical.
It's look at that. It's just you were there. Now,
give me the story on you again. In Hawaii. You
grew up there?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
No, I was born there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
But how long were you there?

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Not very long. My parents moved back to California when
I was two, but then we went back every year.
I see, because there kind of becomes no, but it
just became a special place for our family. I got
married there, you know, so I just really know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I love how connected you are to it. I was
just forgetting exactly. Yeah. West Virginia is extremely poor, says Colley.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Yeah, well I suppose there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
I mean, you see diamond Head there in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Oh that's so pretty. Wow wow wow wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
This report is sponsored by Wait a minute, listen to
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Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Whoopee, says Mark. I just agree Hawaii is not paradise.
If you're a Howley Holley means you're a coming from
the mainland, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Well it means you're yeah, you're a white person.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
White person. Yeah. Is that I've never noticed that? Of course,
I've always stayed at pretty nice places.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I don't know, but there are parts of Hawaii that
you know when you you're even on a wahu. If
you drive to the other side of the island. You
start seeing these signs like how we go home or
you know, there's and but there's also some some some
real anger about having their you know, from for people

(01:23:30):
of Hawaiian descent, having their homeland taken away, what we
did to Hawaii and and you know, imprisoning their monarch.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah, seeing that you're in the wrong place and turn
it back and go back to your resort. You're not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
They don't want you over there. I uh am corrected.
Maryland is close to West Virginia. They share a border,
says anula Fidean corrected, I stand corrected.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
It seemed I thought that because you know, if you're
you always hear if you're in Washington, DC. A lot
of people live in Maryland or West Virginia because it's
all very close to there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
A lot of people live in Maryland or Virginia. Pull
up the Pull up the map for me, Tony. No,
I'm sure you're right. I'm wondering why I don't consider it,
I miss okay, let me get let me get the mass.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Trust me. As odd that they're so close and one's
the happiest and one's you know, or the second happiest
and one's the saddest.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yeah, exactly, it's really I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I'm so different about those two states that are so
many people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I don't know. Anyway, I've been I've been corrected, and
there's West Virginia and there's Virginia and yeah, that's true.
I guess the northeastern part of it does. Yeah, but anyway,
there you go. All right, good stuff. Thank you.

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(01:26:15):
Thompson Show. Which one to use Mark Thompson.

Speaker 9 (01:26:29):
Y'all can all go to hell and I'm going back second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
I blame you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
You just.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
You cannot say you love your country.

Speaker 8 (01:26:50):
Where are my weed?

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Smokers at?

Speaker 8 (01:26:53):
Y'all are like to ask for a recess. I love
in your.

Speaker 7 (01:27:00):
We're in better shaved.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
Fine, I don't think we're in wildly better show.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
They take me a lot of money for having it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
This is a vig with ker. This the man that
has you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
There's always been in this country.

Speaker 8 (01:27:25):
That's pure speculation, that's not fake, that's really.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Have you ever been a member of the Chinese Communist Party.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
What of everybody? Thank you for being part of our show.
You are part of it, whether you realize it or not,
just by stopping through. We appreciate it. The thumbs up
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the more they share your show. Oh it's Tony explained

(01:28:01):
it to me once the math. That makes sense. So
when you're smashed it like a boss, I am. I
thought I saw something I need to respond to. You'll
tell me if I need to. I saw that. Yeah,

(01:28:22):
this is from our audience. We get to Louis, who says,
with a five dollars super chat, Kirk advocated for the
jailing and execution of Biden, and he was rewarded with
a Presidential Medal of Freedom, lowering of flags and a statue.
Hashtag makes no sense in the political violence area of
Villma Delvin limited, Vilma Devlin one of our oh geez

(01:28:46):
on the show. Let us not forget Melissa Hartman, who
was murdered in her home. Isn't her life worth as
much as Charlie Kirk's. I think her Hertman was her
last name. But maybe maybe in any case, your point
is well taken. I mean it was. It's a terrible
strategy that wasn't, in my judgment, sufficiently recognized by the

(01:29:07):
current administration. They just you know, it was glossed over.
Trevor Star in Hollywood says, I'd be very happy Mark
to send your drops again. I've got quite a few backlogged.
How many would you like each week? Maybe you could
preview them on the show and have people pick which
ones they like. Well, I don't want to get too

(01:29:27):
lost in the drop evaluations, but I would welcome you
want to send me a handful of week, that'd be great,
you know, maybe six something like that. Yeah, Mark, I
am utterly outraged, says See Jason Thwaite's that you stated
plainly that Cash Mattel was good at writing children's books. Yeah,

(01:29:53):
he wrote that children's book. And you can google this
that had a a king or a prince who was
was named he wasn't If he wasn't named Trump, he
was named you can find it, Kim, you can help
me through this. But he's named Trump or something like,
you know very much Donald Trump. Right, And then you'll

(01:30:15):
just google the names in cash Betel's children's book about Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
I did not ever read the children's book to my kids.
We missed that one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Here it is the plot against the King. Thank you,
how you are? You are a champ man against the king.
So the Plot against the King was a children nice
book that cash Betel wrote. And the main characters are
Donald Trump. You can see him there on the cover,
you know, the handsome prince holding his scepter. And there

(01:30:48):
is a guy in the book here. It is now
that you know more of the fact, it's time for
you to think carefully decide what you think of the king.
Don't just trust the person with the loudest Trumpet says
somebody who looks a lot like Battel who's there in
the in the illustration. And I think the character's name,
what is it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
They said, it's a fantastical retelling of Hillary's horrible plot
against Trump, and it's a way to bring that to
the whole family.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Wow, uh huh. But anyway, the character's names, I thought
there was like a blow it up a little bit
Mark Tony and we'll see it. But the names are
very close, just like half a click off of the
actual names, So there it is. Afterwards, Cash followed the
Shifty Knight that literally he calls himself. Oh that, and
and King Donalds. It wasn't the names were half a

(01:31:37):
click off. The King is named Donald and the hero
in the story is Cash Kasa just the way Cash
Betel spells it. Yeah, and uh, the Shifty Knight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
And he's running against Hillary queenin you can't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Yeah, wow, it's unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Well, the entire book is about an election being stolen.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yeah, there you go. Perfect for the you know, fun
for the whole family.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Yeah, it's a great, good time read.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah, I don't know it.

Speaker 8 (01:32:15):
I love it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Well, I guess there's a little something for everybody. But
I took a break from Facebook, says Wes Theory, who's
also a n og on this show. It was making
me angry. If you want a temporary break, you can
deactivate your account, not delete sanity time. You can really
drive yourself nuts with the reactions that you'll see on

(01:32:38):
Facebook from people who your friends, your quote friends, people
you know who are connected to you you've been friending,
so especially right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Now because there's just you know, regardless of who you are.
Everything is so inflammatory and people are so upset with
each other about you know, your their reactions to the
Charlie Kirk killing. You know, it's so let's get.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Back to hating immigrants, which is what this entire administration
is really. Yeah, you know what I'm saying here is
Brian Killmead on Fox News Channel talking about the homeless.
So you want to hate on people, have it the
homeless and your immigrants, you know, the people you always
hate on. This is that these are tried and true.

(01:33:22):
Take a look.

Speaker 9 (01:33:24):
They have given billions of dollars to mental health and
the homeless population. A lot of them don't want to
take the programs. A lot of them don't want to
get the help that is necessary. You can't give them
a choice. Either you take the resources that we're gonna
give you and or you decide that you got to
be locked up in jail. That's the way it has
to be now, or involuntary lethal injection or something.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
Just kill them something, I just kill them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
I mean, that's just extraordinary. How can you And now
he subsequently apologized for that, but he said it, and
I can't believe you could say it. I mean Uh.
He got huge blowback, which is why he apologized. But
it was extraordinary, my man. I'm sorry. Yeah, I just

(01:34:14):
can't believe you can get to that place. I I
you know, yeah, somebody said, John says, I'm sorry for
what I was thinking exactly, for thinking out loud. So
that that's that. What else did I want to play

(01:34:35):
for the boys and girls of Tony to have something today?
I wanted to play because I do have a big
story after this, but I want to get to There's
Donald Trump on Fox and Friends talking about this is
about tariffs. The tariff thing is a big deal. I
don't know if you saw over the weekend, but there's
been a lot of blowback from farmers. We played you

(01:34:55):
last week a a bit of the reaction that farmers
have had with Congress people who are down in Arkansas
and they are getting immense pushback because of the President's policies.
They're in real trouble. Farmers are way way underwater. And
so Donald Trump addresses tariffs, and he did this on

(01:35:19):
his Fox and Friends appearance.

Speaker 10 (01:35:21):
I mean, we've done a great job, despite the fact
that we should have lower interest rate's now we have
two things. We've been successful because of the tariffs. It's
given us a great power to negotiate with other the
countries that took advantage of us tremendous power. Also, it's
brought in trillions of dollars into a country. We have
a big case brought by foreign governments because the foreign

(01:35:44):
governments have been ripping us off for years, and it's.

Speaker 8 (01:35:46):
Now in the Supreme Court.

Speaker 10 (01:35:48):
That case is really important to win because it's made
us a rich country. It's made us a rich country
because I mean, I don't want to call it retribution,
but we've.

Speaker 8 (01:35:59):
Been ripped on rebalance.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
We've been ripped off for years by by countries and
by having presidents that were not smart in a business sense.
I'm not saying they were good politicians, but they were
stupid businessmen. They allowed the world to rip us off.
If we don't that Supreme Court case is so important
and frankly, this economy. If we win the tariff case,

(01:36:21):
which we should on the legal merits, but on common sense, man,
we would have to give back trillions of dollars to
these countries.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
What can you imagine those deals?

Speaker 10 (01:36:29):
We would have to give back trillions and trillions of
dollars because we got it because of tariffs.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Let me just give you a note of reality. It's
not trillions and trillions of dollars. It's not even a
trillion dollars. What is it, Kim? It's like one hundred
and fifty billion, a couple one hundred billion dollars? What
is it? Hold on, It's as though Kim didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
I know you're going to I was writing news.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Come on, is that it? I see? Anyway, I will
tell you that it's not trillion's power the idea somehow
that you have to return trillions and tradions of dollars
or more to the point, it's not a question of
returning it. I mean there will have to be money returned,
There'll be lawsuits, and there'll be a number of ways
in which that money will be clawed back. But more

(01:37:17):
to the point of at least what he's saying, it's
not even a trillion dollars. So the idea is it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
It's collected one hundred forty two billion yea from tariffs
revenue is so far this fiscal year, which ends in September,
So it's one hundred forty two billion.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Meanwhile, Arkansas farmers saying they are on the verge of
a crisis. They're asking for financial help from the feds.
We told you this last week and we played you
some of these statements made impassion pleased to the federal
government for help. Arkansas leads the nation in rice production,
ranks among the top states for cotton, soybeans, and poultry,

(01:37:55):
but fallout from President Trump's tariffs have hurt the market
for what they grow there, and some commodity prices are down,
and things that the farmers buy to make their crops
viable they're more expensive as well. And essentially what you

(01:38:17):
have is a bunch of farmers who are going under
because they have bought against their farm They have leveraged
a lot of these purchases they need to make with
farm loans that are leveraged against their farms. The one
thing that is seldom talked about is that there are

(01:38:40):
groups of investors who are hovering, and they're hovering around
these farming communities, not literally, but they are watching because
as these farmers go under, and as these agricultural areas
become available, they'll swoop in and get everything for a song.

(01:39:04):
Distressed farmers will have to sell and many of those
who now populate this administration and high end Wall streeters,
they will swoop in and make these purchases. That's a fact.
And so that's the other I would say untold story
here now as mentioned before, I feel like I mentioned

(01:39:30):
it maybe last week when we were talking about this.
During the first Trump administration, the soybean farmers were distressed
during that time as well because their biggest customer, China,
has been cut off to them. It was cut off
during that first Trump administration. So Trump issued checks to

(01:39:52):
all of those farmers so as not to earn their ire,
you know, not to have them peede off at him, right,
And so that was a way that he essentially bought
out of the anger that those farmers felt. Now we
have the same situation. We have China, big customer for

(01:40:14):
American soybean farmers. Only China because of the tariffs, They've
already found a different way to do business. They're going
to Brazil for a lot of these soybeans. And so
the only reason that China is even remotely interested in
playing ball with Donald Trump on tariffs and on American

(01:40:36):
farming that has to do with soybeans is simply because
there can be an interruption in the supply chain from Brazil.
They're noted for doc strikes. There are a bunch of
you know, sort of labor problems that can happen in Brazil,
and they don't want that to interrupt the flow of
soybeans to China. And so that's the reason that China

(01:40:56):
is kind of still playing ball with on teriffs, at
least as it relates to agricultural products. It's a real
distressing situation for American farmers, and the tariffs really don't
serve anybody positively. And most of all that propaganda I mean,
which you get away with completely unchecked on Fox News

(01:41:17):
Channel where he says it's brought in trillions and trillions
of dollars. I mean, how do hosts sit there and
let him say that stuff. I mean, even if you
don't know the actual numbers the way we do that
we knew it was one hundred and fifty billion or
something like that, two hundred billion at the max, and
as Kim said, it's one hundred and forty five billion. Okay,

(01:41:40):
So even if you don't know that, you know it's
not trillions. You know it's not trillions and trillions. I mean,
these these conversations that the president has, these conversations that
other lawmakers and a high profile people have, they go
completely unchecked. But that one is just like a sitter man.

(01:42:02):
You don't need to know anything to know that that
was BS and yet he just you know, Ladi da Meantime,
Kim told you about everything going on with tensions rising overseas,
but I wanted to mention that the ICE situation in

(01:42:25):
Washington is really reaching some serious levels. In fact, Kim
noted that the mayor of Washington has pushed back on everything, right,
but what has happened is that there may be a
series of emergencies declared by the federal government that would

(01:42:47):
allow the total federalization of the district. Isn't that what
they're talking about? So the idea somehow that you would
end up with Washington d C being more than just
you know, occupied by American National Guard troops, that you

(01:43:08):
would be governed completely by Trump without regard to the mayor,
that that would reconstitute Washington d C. That's a serious,
serious threat right now. President Trump vows to federalize Washington
d C. After the mayor says the cops will not

(01:43:28):
work with Ice in immigration crackdowns. Meanwhile, the mayor of
Memphis is quote not happy about the Trump National Guard
deployment there. In California, a measure created in response to
the la Ice raids stipulates that masks will be banned

(01:43:54):
for law enforcement officers during ice operations. Again, this is
a bill in the legislature created in response to all
of these raids in California, which have been informed by
those who are pouring out of you know, the Penske
rental trucks, the official vans that pull up these other

(01:44:16):
they've got all these kind of cool cars they drive
now they you know, dodge challengers and yeah it's a
real macho thing, but they're all masked.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
So, California state lawmakers have passed legislation that would ban
most law enforcement officers from covering their faces while carry
out operations. And even if the governor signs the measure
in the law, it's unclear whether the state could enforce
it on federal agents. And those are the ones, of course,
who are carrying out those raids. Yeah, so we'll see,

(01:44:48):
it'll be about a month away that legislation.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
I wanted to look quickly at did you have something
care I did.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
I just want to throw this out there because we
talked about at a lot last week, the you know,
the arrest of all the South Koreans at the Hyundai factory. Sure,
and now Trump is saying, hey, listen, foreign workers are
welcome in America. He says he doesn't want to disincentivize
investment after images of workers chained and handcuffed cause widespread

(01:45:24):
alarm in South Korea, and that foreign will workers are
welcome here. And I wondered, and I had a question
for you. Is that Trump saying, oops, my bad, I'm sorry.
We shouldn't have arrested the South Korean workers who were
here at the Hyundai plant, especially when South Korea is
set to invest a massive sum of money into America

(01:45:46):
as far as industry.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Yeah, hundreds of billions of dollars is what we're talking about.
And yeah, I think it is. I think it is.
I think that Marco Rubio, whoever actually is doing any
of the lift diplomatically, they have some explaining to do
and apologizing to do. So I agree. Yeah, I think
very much that that's Trump's way of saying, you know,

(01:46:09):
foreign workers are welcome here. I mean, but I also
have to say that you would think Christine nom might
apprize Trump of the planned raid of a major plant.
I mean, this is a huge plant that is there
in Georgia as part of a reconstituting of that community.

(01:46:31):
You know, they're not a This isn't a small effort,
as you say. It's part of an infusion of tremendous capital.
This is a rural community. It was going to transform
the whole community. And now that the plant's closed down.
So yeah, I think Trump on some level is trying
to communicate. You know, we're on the same page now,

(01:46:53):
but he's going to have to figure out more than
just picking up the phone. He's going to have to
out figure out paperwork that will allow for these workers
to be here, which is always what we wanted because
the ideas of how that you know, they've got to
come in mark, they've got to come in the legal way.
They've got to get online like everybody else. That won't work.
It takes a decade to become someone who's approved here

(01:47:17):
in America, a decade to become a citizen. It may
take a fraction of that, but a significant fraction. It
might take four years to get a work permit and
it's money, it's expensive. It just doesn't make sense. So
you need to okay these workers. You need to broaden
the parameters by which you allow this workforce in, and

(01:47:38):
you have to be far more aggressive about it. Otherwise
you're going to see what's happening. I mentioned the farmers.
Farmers are going under because they don't have labor. They
don't have labor, and they've got terroifts to deal with.
They are going under by the scores. You've got a
major plant, as Kim just mentioned in Georgia that's closed. Now,
you have agricultural fields in California that we spoke of

(01:48:00):
in the last few weeks that are going to be
challenged when it comes to any kind of reasonable harvest.
There just isn't the labor there, and healthcare and childcare
and so on. So I get it. It's fun to
wear the oakleys, to have your vest on, says Ice.

(01:48:22):
You and your glorified nightclub bouncers that jump out of
vans and wrap people up. Some fifty two year old gardener,
you throw them to the pavement. It's awful and brutal,
and it will destroy the American economy, absolutely will destroy it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Koreas trade unions are calling on Trump to issue an
official apology. That's not happening. I think the closest he's
getting to my bad, I'm sorry is this quote. We
welcome them, said Trump, We welcome their employees. We are
willing to proudly say we will learn from them and
do even better than them at their own game sometime
and then not do too distant future. That's that's your apology.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
That is just the the not too distant future thing
is like one of his great moves. You know, in
two weeks I'll have the announcement as to what I'm
you know, it's just it's unreal. I had a great
run on that. I'll give it to you for tomorrow
because it's just, you know, his ability to kind of
park it on down the way is extraordinary. But people are,

(01:49:32):
and particularly these sectors of the economy that I've mentioned
of farming and the like, they are losing patience with
that since nothing really does happen. He's just you know,
kicking the can on down the way. He's not going
to worry about it. It makes the news cycle. He deals
with it. Oh yeah, we've got a plan for that.
I'm going to be announcing it in the next couple
of weeks and you'll be very happy with it. And

(01:49:52):
then of course it just gets kicked down. Tesla's stock
is rising, Kim, what happened? Elon Musk had everything to
do with this, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Yeah, Elon Musk, he bought some of that that stock
back two and a half million shares.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
I think it was two and a half million shares
worth about a billion dollars. Yeah, and so Tesla saw
stock rise. The price rose about seven percent in pre
market trading. Must purchase very amounts of various amounts of
shares at different prices. This is on Friday. The move

(01:50:30):
may be viewed by the markets as the billionaire remaining
confident in the company's future. You see. Earlier this month,
of course, Tesla released a proposed pay package. We shared
it with you here. It would give Musk so much
money that he might become the world's first trillionaire if
he hits a series of extremely aggressive targets over the

(01:50:53):
next decade.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Over the weekend, the Pope came out and said, you
know this pay for these people like Musy. This is
not right.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
Yeah, Pope is not really getting as many people to
salute as they used to salute the pope. But the
CDC is saying the loss of expertise there will harm
us health. Top officials exiting the agency under RFK Junior's

(01:51:24):
leadership and his anti vax beliefs have dismayed the medical community.
Americans should be alarmed, said the former principal Deputy Director
at the CDC, now a visiting professor at Colby College.
All of these moves leave us less safe, and it
comes at a time of rising public health threats, an

(01:51:44):
unprecedented loss of expertise, and a simultaneous erosion of trust
as top health officials undermine vaccines and other vital health tools.
Project twenty twenty five, the conservative blueprint for the second
Trump administration, vowed to strip the CDC of its ability
to issue any guidance on vaccines and to end require

(01:52:07):
testings for new pathogens. And Project twenty twenty five, which
Trump had claimed he had no knowledge of, is being
followed almost to the letter. Russell Vote, who was the
author of so much of Project twenty twenty five. He
runs the Office of Management and Budget, and the rest

(01:52:28):
of the Trump administration is populated with the others. Many
of the others who were authors of Project twenty twenty five,
which was a detailed breakdown of a plan for dismantling
government and ending up where we are here and beyond.
The changes to us health will be felt for decades,

(01:52:50):
and the cutbacks and changes where the road. The public's
already wavering trust in health officials, experts say losing top
experienced experts managing crucial units in the CDC is going
to put all of us at risk, said a professor
of law at UC Hastings College of Law. Four senior

(01:53:12):
officials their departures delt a big blow to the nation's
health preparedness. According to that same official, thousands of health
agency employees have been laid off or resigned, with the
entire departments guided under President Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
You mentioned Project twenty twenty five, and I saw this piece,
this article about an MSNBC piece that aired over the
weekend looking at how well the Trump administration is doing
on delivering from the twenty twenty five playbook, And you know,
of course, Trump's like, I don't know what Project twenty

(01:53:52):
twenty five is. I have no idea. I'm not aligned
with those people. And now, of course that most of
the people who wrote it are in positions of power
in the Trump administration and making it all come to fruition.
But one of the things they said, uh, this was
Ali Vers. One of the things he was saying is

(01:54:12):
that they aren't done. That the Heritage Foundation is releasing
a new book that takes on the Constitution, and so
he said, Veshi said, what could possibly go wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Yeah, well, I mean it's it's absolutely the case that
they're not done. I mean that's certainly true. I mean
Project twenty twenty five was a nine hundred some odd
page document and it really did have a strategy laid out,
you know, step by step, and the damage that will
be done will be significant. And maybe you will play

(01:54:46):
a little bit of Veshy's conclusions. I think she's writing
a book, isn't.

Speaker 8 (01:54:51):
He or as you know, we love to read, Yeah, read.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
He's got I think he's got a book that he's
working on that's related to that as well. But anyway,
we'll run a little bit of it another time. I
was going to say that just to round out the
RFK Junior thing, because this is, I know, what's happening
is undermining faith, also undermining confidence and undermining research and

(01:55:17):
all of these things associated with what's happening at NIH
the CDC. But he has often said RFK Junior, and
he said it in his confirmation hearing, I'm not going
to take away anybody's vaccines, but is noted here beyond
restricting who is eligible for certain shots, as he's already

(01:55:38):
done for this year's COVID shots, Experts are saying Kennedy
can take steps that could drive drug companies to stop
making vaccines entirely. In the nineteen eighties, lawsuits fueled by
then the nascent anti vaccine movement, you know, just beginning then.
It led more than a dozen manufacturs or is to

(01:56:00):
stop producing vaccines and created shortages of vaccines. The director
of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children's Hospital of
Philadelphia is a former guest on this show and a
future guest on the show I'll have him Back, Doctor
Paul Offitt, and he points out that domestic vaccine production
survived only because Congress stepped in to create a no

(01:56:22):
fault alternative to the traditional legal system. The National Vaccine
Injury Compensation Program that protected vaccine makers from liability, created
a special vaccine court to award financial damages to people
are harmed by vaccines. So the legal protections for plaintiffs

(01:56:44):
and drug makers who have helped ensure that the United
States has a reliable supply of vaccines ever since. But
now RFK Junior has that same program in his sights.
He sees vac I've seen manufacturers as the enemy clearly,
and he's been involved in litigation against them, and he's

(01:57:06):
amped up his attacks on that program. He disparaged the
program on social media and he vowed to quote fix it.
So what could happen if RFK Junior were to change
things and instead of quickly and fairly, which was sort

(01:57:31):
of the way it was suggested awarding compensation, you'd end
up with a flood of litigants, and you'd end up
with the entire system being bogged down. And you didn't
end up, obviously with drug makers pushing away from the table.

(01:57:52):
We just don't want to deal with it. So RFK
Junior can animate in effect the legal system and the
the legal culpability that a lot of these drug makers
would find themselves in. And so these vaccine makers would be,
as I say, just pushing away from the table. Vaccines

(01:58:12):
are overwhelmingly safe. They've saved one hundred and fifty four
million lives over the past five decades, according to their
World Health Organization, but about one in a million vaccine
causes a serious injury, like a life threatening allergic reaction.
And in that way, the way in which these companies

(01:58:39):
pay into this fund, people can seek claims for injuries
that they've suffered as a result of vaccines. It's a
seventy five cent surcharge on vaccines. It's helped thousands of people.
They've awarded five point four billion dollars to plant it,
so it's not an insubstantial amount of money. If if

(01:59:00):
you were to undermine this program, you again could see
the destruction of vaccines in this country. In fact, Paul
Offitt was saying, if you want to destroy vaccines in
this country, if your goal is to eliminate vaccine manufacturing
in America, the best way to do it is to
attacking that program. So more on this. I'll get Paul

(01:59:23):
off It on the show again. He was terrific. We
exchanged emails after his visit and we'll address more of it.
But I think it's you know, it's where we are,
and it's part of Project twenty twenty five. To Kim's point,
So that's all to be continued. Now, I have a

(01:59:48):
Mark Thompson show. I have a program note tomorrow. It's
David K. Johnston. Is that right? To Kim?

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
That is correct?

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
And he'll be joined tomorrow. I thought by someone else.
Am I wrong about that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
I don't know that. I didn't expect a special guest star.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
Please all right, well maybe he won't be joing man.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
We'll have to wait on pins and needles to see
if this actually happened. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
I'll have my pins and needles ready to check that out.
I am still David K. Johnston will be here, and
seldom do we need anyone else but David K. Johnston.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
REVP says we must all convert to MAGA otherwise be
jailed and exiled. Yeah, that would be.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
Does feel like that's the way it's going. Charlie Kirk
pushed the Great Replacement theory, says A Golf. The Great
Replacement theory was responsible for the shooting at Walmart in
El Paso, the Buffalo shooting at the Tops grocery store,
the Tree of Life synagogue shooting in Tennsylvania. This is

(02:00:50):
true about Charlie Kirk pushing the great replacement theory. It's
absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
That theory is that these immigrants are here to place
you for your job, and this influx of immigrants is.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Are they here?

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Yeah? I know, got it. They would at least know
what the what the tariffs brought in instead of having
to wait on the I'm just saying, look, I'm be
open to another person doing Kim's job. To be honest,
I'm just saying, yeah, if we could find somebody immigrant

(02:01:28):
or not, I would have auditions. I mean, I'm just
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Yeah, it's online. You could outsource it to a different
country even Oh that's true.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
I could outsource it. I can. Yeah, exactly right. Luis says,
I think that worm in RFK Junior's head was filled
with tequila. Thus it's decision making. Yeah, it does seem
as though he's addled by something, doesn't it. Louise, thank
you and og of this show and a Southern California
viewer as well, and Jolly Ran, which I think I
acknowledge already, but thank you, Jolly love you, thanks for

(02:02:04):
the super chat and saying that you love the show.
I always appreciate. You know, I have a crisis of
confidence like anybody else. Hard as we work. When we
come to you tomorrow, Tony will be here again, which
is something that you know. Tony's got a pretty substantial

(02:02:25):
group of people who love seeing him. Yeah, and if
they actually knew me, thanks to your hustle today, Kim
will be here as well, as I say, David K.
Johnston tomorrow as well. No way, Kim is the goat,
says Chaplain, For she is the greatest of all time.

(02:02:45):
That's true. But what is she great at? Is the question?
All right, she is right now. Did you see the
Emmys and the in Memoriam, I says, And yeah I did.
I've got some comments on the There were some good
parts of the Emmy, but you know, as usual, Parks
thick too, and then Memoriam always disappoints me. But I'm
shade of Stevens for the Mark Johnson Show. Bye bye.

(02:03:09):
I am grateful to all of you. I'm out of time,
can't do anything marked, can over thing? Have the funny
live till tomorrow. Bye bye.

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