TX Redistricting Hardball, Public Health at Risk, RFK Slashes Vaccines, Trump-Epstein 8/6/25

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I don't know how I could be any happier to
be here so excited, and Albert is back. Everyone I
know Albert had a lovely vacation. I believe in a Hawaii, Albert,
weren't that where you were?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
A yeah, yeah, good amount of time.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And bring me the spirit of Aloha back with you.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I bring the spirit with me everywhere.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That's very very nice. Did you bring the spirit of
Mahallo back with you? You know that one?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm not sure of. Okay, Well, thank you, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, well, I mean you have to be grateful. I
think you know, particularly you Albert. You should be grateful.
All right. Kim is here as well, watching breaking news events.
We have one to share with you, actually in just
a moment, Kim, Hope Paul as well with your wonderful children,
one of whom you've rescued from the jaws of the

(00:58):
fates in the and the other you've sent off to
Europe to open up I don't know, some kind of
pot den or whatever that she's doing over there.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And yeah, that's what I've done.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Along the canals of Amsterdam. But great to have everybody here.
Thank you for being here. I'll love you all and
that music is too loud, says Mindy Lee. I know
it is too loud. It is very loud, too loud.
I don't I don't like the music to engulf me

(01:33):
like that. That I'm saying that we try to balance
the levels. Mindy is not happy, so we will try
to reduce the level that Mindy is getting tomorrow. Now, today,
I want to tell you it's a special day because

(01:53):
John Rothman is not here. No, but Albert, please, that
is not appreciate it. John Rothman is not here. What
I was about to say, if you'll let me finish,
is that is that David Katz who would be on
the air tomorrow with us. He is the brilliant federal prosecutor,

(02:16):
one of the leading legal analysts in the English speaking world.
He dissects everything about the constitutionality of various proposals. The
latest moves in Texas, the redistricting the Democrats leaving, the
call for the FBI to perhaps arrest Democrats who are

(02:38):
not in the state legislature, that call coming from the
President of the United States. These things will be dissected
and analyzed by David Katz. Normally would be tomorrow, but
because of a blip in David Katz's schedule. He'll be
here today, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
And then tomorrow we have a lawyer in David Cassa's spot.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Tomorrow we have the former pardon attorney for the United
States of America joining us. Liz Zawyer is terrific. I
can't wait to talk with her. I'm so excited for
that booking that is tomorrow. So it's a lot of
lawyers this week, which is great. You can never have
too many lawyers these days. Recess it's a little early

(03:25):
for a recess. And and if I just may add
John Bussey, it's Trevor Starr noted in a in the chat.
Thank you, Mark, Kim and Albert for being so remarkable
from a remarkable fan. Vill Madevlin is one of our
o g's. I do adore her, and Albert, I don't

(03:46):
know if you've noted this, because I know you probably
don't watch the show when you're not assigned to the show.
But there is talk that there's a group growing, a
group of enthusiasts, group of I'm gonna call them zelots,
crazy zealots for the show, supporters for the show, but

(04:10):
beyond support, they are cranking it up to eleven, and
they are floating the idea that they be called the Remarkables.
You get that mark is in there. They had floated
a couple of other terms, but the Remarkables is I
like that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's a great cult name.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah. I love that. Yes, yeah, they're cultists exactly, Tammy,
thank you. That's right, Albert. They are cultists. So, uh,
you've got to fight cultism with cultism. So maybe this
is the cultism that is.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
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dead song. Oh, you're really laying three to one.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
He is.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
No touch of Gray, I think is one of them,
Isn't that? So there you go. I'll take my money
and donate it to the show. The amount of bodybags
RFK Junior is getting ready to fill would make fellow
homicidal clown Pennywise star of Stephen King's It Jealous hashtag
scary clown. Well, Luis went a long way for that reference,

(06:05):
but I give you credit, and so bravo, bravo. Yeah,
this is I mean, all kidding aside what's happening at
NIHCDC and what's happening with the vaccine program. The total
gutting of the five hundred million dollars worth of research
around mRNA it is. It's I would say, gross disgusting

(06:30):
anti science and serves up just a big, beautiful favor
to the anti vax community and to the conspiracy theory community.
I mean, even if you wanted to accommodate the skepticism
associated with vaccines, you do it by paralleling a lot
of the research with other research, you don't do it

(06:50):
this way, and so on the very terms that you've
laid out that are so unfair, the way the community
has developed vaccines and in your judgment, forced them on us.
You're doing the same thing but the other way. So
there's no balance here. RFK Junior. There's no balance here

(07:12):
anti vaxxers. Now you know, my view on the vaccine
was always if you don't want to take it, you
shouldn't have to take it. I didn't like the fact
that it was foisted upon us in so many different ways.
But I also feel as though the assessment as to
what the vaccine could do and the effect the vaccine
was having, and even the landscape of COVID nineteen, that

(07:36):
is to say, its effects on a human population, the
contagion itself, I mean, that was always being revised and
had to be because the science behind it reflected a
mutation that was going on with the actual virus. So
again they're throwing all the science out. There is more
crap in this administration. I mean, wall to wall bs

(08:01):
made up facts then I could even conceive of existing
at the federal level. It's extraordinary to me, everything from
what they're doing at the EPA poisons into the environment
to water, soil, air, to what they're doing at NIH
with public health and the CDC in populating it with

(08:22):
not only vaccine skeptics, these are conspiracy theorists. So this
is an administration that is populated by loyalists. It is
bankrupt of any real knowledge on any number of subjects,
from science to the environment. They are agenda driven. They
want to unwind everything, and of course they want to

(08:44):
privatize everything. They want to open up the world of
government and government agencies to the private industry. And they've
done it, Postal Service, social Security, you name it in
every case. The weather I know, you're Noah. They they've
they've rolled that back and then they've rolled it back again,

(09:05):
the Weather Service and those services associated with the National
Hurricane Center, for example. This is all part of the
budget cutting and their feeling is great. If you want
weather information, they're private industry groups that can get you
that information ACU Weather, et cetera. It's it's all of
a kind. We talk about it all the time.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So isn't that interesting that they seem to be against
science and advancements and want to roll us back into
some other timeframe. But yet they're for AI and crypto,
so it doesn't really match up. I mean, if you're
against technology and science, you would think we would, you know,

(09:48):
But anything that makes them money, those are those are
the things that.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Are Okay, that's exactly right. I mean, Kim is exactly
right about that. I mean, they're just too many big
money players to ignore these things. In fact, I've got
we're I hadn't planned to start this way. Just to
put a rounding off on the RFK Junior thing we
were talking about, they're terminating twenty two contracts that are
focused on mRNA vaccine technology. So they're going to wind

(10:13):
down mRNA technology across the board. It's not just the
twenty two contracts, but that's the twenty two contracts that
they're leading with. They'll be winding down any additional federal
investments in mRNA technology, and RFK Junior announced that proudly yesterday.
So a lot of scientists and Texas disease experts are
denouncing it, of course, and these are the broad cuts

(10:40):
that we're seeing across the board at HHS. And again
i'd suggest that the public health threat is massive, and
this guy is a train wreck. RFK Junior is a
train wreck. And there are those in the medical community
or saying it's not just about vaccines, it's about whether

(11:04):
we'll be ready when the next crisis hits. Cutting mRNA
development now puts every American at greater risk, says Rick Bright,
who directed the BARDA Group from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
Bart it is that Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.
It's a department of HHS that works with the pharmaceutical

(11:25):
industry to develop vaccines and other countermeasures for these things
like pandemics or epidemics that might affect the public health.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Go ahead, Kim, No, no, yes, I disagreeing with you.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, So that's the latest from RFK Junior. And say
he states it proudly, you know, but it is a
step back, at minimum one step back in terms of
the nation's health. So Mark Thompson Show, we wanted to
give you a little breaking news of the moment. Kim

(12:00):
can do that. I guess the Georgia Army base that
was in lockdown, are they still in lockdown? They're five
soldiers who have been shot.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Five soldiers shot and there was for a time a
live shooter situation, but we know that the shooter is
now among those shot as well. The shooter was sorry.
The shooter was arrested and there was a lockdown because
of that. They don't know exactly what the circumstances of

(12:31):
the shooter are why this happened, but the injured have
been treated taken to the hospital. There's currently no threat
to the community, so it looks like they're easing up
on the lockdown right now. But this is the second
Armored Brigade Combat Team complex. The shooter was arrested right
before eleven thirty this morning Eastern, so a couple hours ago.

(12:55):
The lockdown lasted about an hour and included some schools
that were near by this base as well, but the
team's complex may still be on lockdown as they kind
of deal with all of this. This is a also
called the Spartan Brigade. The Army calls this unit the
last the most modern land fighting force that it has,

(13:17):
so it's huge. This complex is huge.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it's not unprecedented, you know that somebody opens fire
at one of these bases, but it definitely whips our
head around today. So we'll watch that for you. Five
soldiers shot in all of that, including the shooters. So
Mark Thompson show in Texas Governor Greg Abbott suing to

(13:42):
get rid of the House Democratic Caucus chair. This is
the whole thing regarding redistricting in Texas, a state already
heavily jerrymandered. It's a you could say that Texas is
a purplish state in preasingly they view it as a
red state. And I get why. Historically it's been a

(14:04):
red state, but it's very intensely gerrymandered. The districts are
drawn very severely in favor of the GOP. But Donald
Trump put up the batbeam and said, I want five
more seats to cover my ass in the House of Representatives.
It's too thin a margin. Get them for me, and

(14:24):
get them in Texas. And Governor Abbot has been noted
by Democrats who serve in Texas, and the Texas Legislature responded,
and so now in an emergency petition filed yesterday with
the Texas Supreme Court, Governor Greg Abbott is wanting to

(14:47):
remove Representative Gene Wu from the entire democratic process. And
again Wu is leading these Democrats away from the Texas Legislature.
So that there's no way they have a quorum to
vote on the new redistricting maps or anything else or

(15:11):
anything else exactly. So again, this was an emergency sess
not called emergency called a special session called by the
governor to redistrict. But wu is the Texas House Democratic
Caucus chair, and Abbott is saying he's violating the state
constitution because he's abandoning his office by definition because he's

(15:33):
not in the legislature. By the way, the Republicans have
done the same thing in the Texas legislature, as you're aware.
So this is part of what's being played out in Texas.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
The understand, And I maybe we can ask David Katz
this our former federal prosecutor, when he comes on, is
him the governor of Texas arrest, call for the arrest
of and or remove an elected official from their seat

(16:07):
the people shows this, You could argue that this man
is doing the job of his constituents by holding up
a hijacking of the midterms from happening. So I don't
know how you you know, the people of Texas elected
this man. Who is anyone to say that he's not
doing his job?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I see exactly what you're saying, well, you will ask.
This is a clearly legal question, and it's fraught with
issues involving the state constitution in Texas and also the
Constitution in the United States. And the reason I say
the Constitution of the United States is the latest is
that Donald Trump is now calling for the FBI to
be involved in perhaps arresting those Democrats who have left Texas,

(16:52):
those who, in other words, voting democrats within the state legislature.
Trump is saying the FBI maybe have too, may have
to get involved in locating and then arresting these Texas Democrats.
I mean, it's sort of a chilling notion. This is
a high stakes game, of course, but you've got US

(17:15):
senators like John Cornyn, Senator from Texas asking the FBI
to help Texas law enforcement in locating and arresting democrats
who left the state. And you'll remember we talked about
it yesterday. Of course, Texas law enforcement has no jurisdiction
in Illinois, where many of these Democrats have gone, but

(17:36):
the FEDS would have jurisdictions, so you could call in
the FBI. But the legality of that is something that
one must ask about, and we will ask David Katz
about it when he comes in later in the show,
beginning the second hour, and then the Lieutenant governor of
Texas saying that Texas is a red state. We deserve

(18:00):
to have completely wall to wall Republican representation. O'bur play
a little bit of the lieutenant governor.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
All right, Dan, come back and do the right thing.
Don't run and hide, because you've lost touch with the voters.
Their problem, or not redistricting lines their problem, Shawn, as
they've lost the minds of their voters who are moving
towards the Republican Party all over the country.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
We're a red state, we deserve more representation.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, there's two things wrong with that. First of all,
they're actually not moving toward the Republican Party. And isn't
that the problem. That's why you're heavily jerrymandering. I mean,
you know C point A, point B is I think
that's the same guy. Of course, all these older, gray
haired white guys who looked like they could be leading
some megachurch, and the megachurch of Mega is the one

(18:53):
that they're leading. They all look alike to me. But
I think he's the same guy who during COVID went
on Sean Hannity and a Fox News saying because the
economy was taking such a hit from COVID. He was saying,
I think we should let COVID burn through the population,
and we should end whatever lockdowns and whatever modifications we've

(19:17):
made to the culture in America during this pandemic, and
we should allow this contagion to go through the human population,
even though it will disproportionately affect seniors. He said something like, Hey,
I'm seventy years old and I've had a great life,
and if I have to sacrifice my life now for
the economy of America, I don't mind. And I think

(19:39):
i'm speaking and there it is, there it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
His name is Dan Patrick and he's currently When he
said this, he was sixty nine. He said that grandparents
should be willing and would be willing to die to
save the economy for their grandchildren. He said that during COVID,
you're not.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Making it up. I mean, what a total jackass. This
guy is absolutely total And he's the lieutenant governor of Texas.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Still and now he comes out and says, we deserve
the five extra House seats because we're entitled to them,
because we're a red state.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Absolute insanity, absolute insanity. And so again the legal machinitions
of what's happening in Texas we will discuss with David Katz.
But this is the severe way in which hyper partisan
politics is playing out at an extremely high profile level

(20:36):
across the country. I mean, essentially, what you've done is
you've launched a scheme to not only retain power in Texas,
but to broaden your power, pick up your five seats.
And that scheme has had the ripple effect of producing
some kind of clapback on the part of Democrats. And
so you see in New York and California, blue states,

(20:59):
they're looking for inventive ways to increase the democratic representation
to offset what is happening in Texas. This is the
problem with breaking the system. When you're playing dirty, the
other side is compelled to play dirty as well, and
they have their own spin on it. I get it.

(21:19):
But you can see pretty nakedly how this is a
power grab. So again, more on that with David Katz
in our two. The former federal prosecutor will weigh in
on exactly what is legal and what is not and
what they might legitimately be able to get away with
and as I said to you before, this is not
a long term strategy. Having the Democrats leave the legislature

(21:41):
and essentially prevent the voting on these new districts as
they're remapped, that's not a long term strategy because there'll
be another special session called at the end of this
thirty days. So this brings attention to this, and that's
what the idea was. But they'll have to be a
better player in place. And as I say, maybe it's

(22:01):
California and New York and other blue states getting involved
in redistricting, but you know there are other red states
involved in redistricting now they're going doing it in Florida.
Florida is truly a purple estates purple purple slash red.
So this is really an unfolding story that it all
blunts the people's voice to the extent that the vote

(22:23):
and representation is that of the people. You see how
this just doesn't represent the people's voice at all. So
Thompson Show, I want to I want to do what
I'll tell you something I saw a maybe you saw

(22:45):
bits of it. I watched this interview yesterday that Donald
Trump did with CNBC, and I think I referenced it
yesterday on the show because I'd seen a bunch of it,
but a couple of things stuck out to me, one
of which was, Donald Trump has absolutely no idea how

(23:06):
an economy works, how tariffs work. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
We knew that though, but it's funny when you see
the evidence of it.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, you're right. I mean, you don't see it in
such a stark way until he really starts responding to questions.
And he is a BS artist, right, He's a con man,
so he has no real knowledge of anything. David K.
Johnson says this all the time. Donald Trump has no
real knowledge of anything. And you really see it as

(23:34):
he spins just words and stuff and this and that,
as he spoke to the CNBC guys. So he calls
into CNBC and we'll play you some of this, and
I may start and stop just to make a couple
of points. But here's what it looked and sounded like.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Like the overall numbers, and it was a big number.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
And obviously labor numbers. The labor numbers.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Were Rick Biden wasn't doing well, he was doing poorly.
They announced these phenomenal numbers the two days before the election,
and a little bit before that, always these great numbers,
and you knew it wasn't doing well, you do, Prices
were through the roof and inflation was there, but the
whole thing was bad.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
But think of it.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
Then they did the biggest revision I think in history,
of almost nine hundred thousand jobs, and it turned out
to be more than that because later on they did
another revision, and so they gave.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
This already wall to wall crap. Before the election, the
same agency, the BLS Numbers Bureau of Labor Statistics, issued
actually grim numbers or not that positive numbers for the bidamins.
There was absolutely no pumping up of numbers. And of
course the inflation numbers were what they were, and they

(24:51):
I think helped propel this guy into the presidency. But
what he's talking about this is absolutely a fiction, total fiction,
wall to wall, and he just keeps spinning all of
these fictions as you continue to go ahead election.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
After I won the election, I said, too big to rig.
But after I won the election, then they announced a
downward number, in other words, to bring them back to reality,
and I said, wow. Supposing I would have lost, I
would have blamed that and people would have said I
was a conspiracy.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Theorist Elaine Chaw was on yesterday and I know you
know she was. I think she was Labor secretary for
eight years under Bush two, and she was your transportation
secretary as well, and she said, you know, the commissioner
doesn't really even get involved with the actual minutia of

(25:42):
putting all these things together. And there's no way that
it could have been that she could have chosen to
rig these numbers to make them look bad. And these
are statistical changes based on this antiquated system, and it's
just a a big leap to go to rigged. And

(26:02):
then it also as president, it makes anyone you pick
is going to be critics are going to say, hey,
he's picking a guy that's going to give him the number,
or a guy that's given him the numbers that he wants.
So it undermines confidence in the system to some extent.
You had, according to many people, all the rights in
the world to try to replace a commissioner when it's

(26:22):
not hasn't gotten any better. But that is maybe a
bridge too far according to most people.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Well, I think where somebody says the commissioner is not involved,
I don't want to get into any arguments with anybody.
Why should I should very nice to well exactly, But
would they say that the you know that nobody was involved,
that wasn't political. Give me a break. Look, before the election,
I had this massive, massive outflow of beauty for Biden.

(26:51):
I mean, he didn't know he was alive at but Biden,
the economy was roaring. It was a beautiful thing. And
I said, there's no way this has happened. It's going
the opposite direction. And two weeks later they said I
was right. But even if you look at the original,
the ones from the other day, the numbers were very timid,
and then they announced something that made him even more

(27:12):
timid on top of it. Instead of a reporting that
I don't know why, it just seemed a little bit
more more important than most times when the numbers.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
We talked earlier.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
The unemployment rate is still no it's four point two percent.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Times.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
I'm not but I will say this, the numbers before
the election were earth shattering. I'm not saying he's worth shattering.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
He's coming back to that, and that's actually not true.
He keeps coming back to something that absolutely is not true,
and he counts on you not really checking and you
not really remembering. It counts on everyone listening and viewing
not really knowing. And the guy is wall to wall
fiction on the numbers before the election.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Go ahead, Albert, to make it look a little bit
worse from you know, months before, I said, where did
those numbers come from? So for as much as you
want a highly political it's a highly political situation.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, rigged.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Smart people know it, people with common sense to know it.
A lot of people like you keep their head under
the covers.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And let's move on to this number.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Which number do you believe at this point?

Speaker 8 (28:19):
Because if you notice suddenly the chances of what you've
wanted for months and argued for for months, the chances
of a rate cut soared because of these numbers.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Do you not believe the current numbers?

Speaker 8 (28:31):
Because they're playing right into what you want the Fed
and Jay Powell to do.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
They're not horrible, as you said, stop for one second, number,
because I want you to hear this answer. Do you
hear what he's doing now? Joe Kernan, the guy talking
right now, he's a trumpet. He's a Maga type guy,
all right. So he's trying to spend everything. But even
he is having trouble here. Again, he knows because of
the Elaine Chow reference that he made. Elayne Chao said,

(28:57):
the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics has nothing
to do with this. She's handed this stuff and you know,
basically reviews it and that's it. So, I mean, there
are at least forty statisticians there who go over this data.
And it's polling data. And you can argue that the
polling data is flawed or the methodology is flawed, but
that's what it is. And it's continued through administration to administration,

(29:21):
and then there are revisions as the additional polling data
comes in and fills in details. Now Kernin is saying, well,
which data do you want? Because the new data actually
would seem to support what you want, mister president, which
is lower interest rates. But you're throwing all out the

(29:41):
new data, and yet you feel like the old data
is what you want that wouldn't support an interest rate cut.
I mean, is everything rigged or But I mean, you
get the absurdity of the entire thing. But here is
Trump's answer on which set of data he might apply

(30:02):
to his overall desire to lower interest rates. Go ahead, offert.
It's the tariffs.

Speaker 8 (30:08):
Some businesses delayed some spending, some consumers may have been
less certain about the future. So maybe we're seeing a
slight slow down in labor. But you're going to get
exactly what you want based on these numbers. Which ones
do you believe? Do you not believe the revised numbers?

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Either, it's not what I want. I don't want that.
I wanted it a year ago. I wanted it a
long time ago. Jay Powell is a highly political and
I think you know I call him too late Jerome
too late. Powell, He's too late. He's too late always,
he always has been, except when he came to lowering
interest rates before the election. You know that he did.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
He worked out that would you replace him with?

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Did I know you watch the show occasionally and we
had an extended interview with one of the prospective replacements,
Kevin Warrish.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Were you watching that day or I was?

Speaker 7 (30:56):
He's very well, he's very good. He's very good. Sometimes
they're all very good. Or did you put him in
there and then they don't do so good?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Talking about.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
I think I say Kevin and Kevin both Kevin's are
very good. And there are other people that are very.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Good too, but.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
I don't know if that's good.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
A lot of times, a.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
Lot of times they're very good, like this character that
we have, and then now your own too, late Bell.
He was very good, he said, sir, I'll keep interests
are so low. I'm a low interest rate person, sir.
You can hear him talking over the desk. Somebody that
worked for me, he was a big fan of not
a fan of his. He hardly knew him, but he
wanted him so badly. I did somebody everybody put him

(31:40):
in there, all.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right, So now you can hear how he's just blithering on.
He's he's filling, right, He's really filling. I always feel
like when you are listening to Donald Trump, it's like
listening to a kid who didn't do the reading. Uh
do the book report? Allowed? You know, he didn't do
the reading. He's making it up as he goes, and
he's just this would never pass for a book report.

(32:02):
But because he's president of the United States, he gets
away with this. Play me some more of this interview.
We can't play the whole thing, but I'll play one
more little chunk and then talk a little bit about
what's happening with tariffs. I do want you to be
aware this is look sadly, this is really crucial stuff,
the important stuff. He's monkeying with an economy that was
the leading economy in the developed world when he took office.

(32:24):
If he had just not touched anything, he would have
been fine. But instead he turned the keys of the
kingdom over to Elon Musk and the Project twenty twenty
five people, Russell vote and the rest of them, and
he has dismantled government. And now he is screwing with
the American economy and swinging every lever and pushing every

(32:47):
joystick that he can, and these are the results.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
Go ahead on, mister President and Andrew here. It's great
to speak with you. I wanted to ask I just
wanted to ask you about your mentioned Tara and on
Sunday you talked again about this idea of dividends for
middle and lower income folks that might come off of
the tariffs and meaning the revenue that's coming in from
the tariffs, and I wanted you to maybe explain how

(33:12):
that might work in practice and how you're thinking about
that in the trade offs between paying down the debt,
which I thought was something you had been talking a
lot about versus sending checks out because obviously that creates
its own debt for us.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
So we're taking in trillions of dollars, Andrew, if you
look at Japan, we're taking in five hundred and fifty
million dollars. And that's like a signing bonus that a
baseball player would get. He would get slightly less no
matter how good it is, right, but they give a
signing bonus of a million dollars or two million dollars
or twenty million dollars or whatever the hell you give
today is so out of control. But a signing bonus.

(33:50):
So I got a signing bonus from Japan of five
hundred and fifty billion, that's our money. It's our money
to invest as we like European Union in six hundred
and fifty billion dollars think of it. And they're going
to buy seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of
our energy and they're going to do this, and they're
going to do that. And by the way, they're going
to open up their countries, which they've never done. Japan

(34:11):
is never if you did business in Japan, they would
arrest you. You're not allowed to do any business. And
now Japan has totally opened up their country.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
They're even taking to stop it again. But again this
is total bs. Okay, there's not five hundred and fifty
billion dollars worth of coming from Japan. This is an
absolute fiction. Once again, any numbers, you hear him.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey, we're not getting a signing bonus from Japan.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Absolute insanity. Go ahead, hour, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Nobody said was possible. But more importantly, they're taking our cars.
They're taking the very beautiful Ford one fifty, which does
very well and I'm sure we'll do very well there,
and other things that do very well here will also
do well there. You'd be surprised that some of the
great things we make. But Japan has opened up all
of these. Indonesia's opened up their country. South Korea has

(35:01):
opened up their country, but not only open up, and
that's going to be huge business. When you open up
South Korea. It's a closed country. And now all of
a sudden, we're allowed to sell cars into South Korea
and trunks and SUVs. I mean, we're really opening it up.
Vietnam is opening up their country. You know, these are
all closed countries.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
But the EU I don't know what that means. I
really don't know what that means. I mean there was
free trade and a trade back and forth with both
the countries he mentioned, We mentioned Vietnam and South Korea.
I don't know what's happening here. This guy is, he's
a loon man. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

(35:41):
And it's just so nakedly clear. The more he says,
and he's most comfortable. His happy place is Democrats didn't
know what they're doing. Biden was in firm, Hillary Clinton,
Barack Obama, the Democrats. Everything's political. Because for Trump, everything isolitical.
But when it comes to actually having to administer to

(36:03):
the economy, he fires all the people of any competence.
The only people who remain are devoted loyalists. So you
have reinforced a kind of incompetence that if it's not
actually reflected by the person's decision making process. That is
to say, they know better, but they have to make

(36:24):
this decision. They have to make it to please the king,
otherwise it'll be their head on a plate. This is
an insane administration that has its feet both firmly on
political territory. And to listen to this man speak is

(36:44):
to hear the insanity word for word just come out
as utter fictions. I don't know what to do with this.
I want to listen for another minute or so and
then we'll move on. But it's just extraordinary. This guy's
president of the United effing State. Eight. It's like if
the bully in class who never did any reading, never

(37:07):
knows anything, all of a sudden is running the class
and running the school and then running the school system.
Give me a little bit more. Do you have a
little more? Albert? Are you over this? I'll yield to you,
mister president.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
What kind of teeth though, or in those in those investments?
What kind of teeth are in those investments? Meaning that
would force the EU to make those investments. If they
don't make those investments, what happens on the other side.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Well, then they pay tariffs, so thirty five percent? No, no,
they brought down their tariff, so they paid six hundred
billion dollars. And because of that, I reduced the tariff
from thirty percent down to fifteen percent. And a couple
of countries came, how come EU is paying less than us?
And I said, well, because they gave me six hundred
billion dollars. And that's a gift. That's not like you know,

(37:54):
a loan. By the way, that's not alone that og
three years comes up, we have to pay it back.
There's nothing to pay. They gave us six hundred billion
dollars that we can invest in anything we want. The
deal they nobody knows it, Becky, nobody knows it because
you know, they don't know that.

Speaker 9 (38:12):
We have been trying to figure out the details on that.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Mister President's Well, there are the details are six hundred
billion to invest in anything I want, anything, I can
do anything I want with it. And the purpose was
they've been, you know, ripping us for so many years
that it's time that they pay up. And they have
to pay up. We couldn't afford to have the deficits. Look,
I did something with Switzerland the other day. I spoke

(38:34):
to their prime minister, the woman who was nice, but
she didn't want to listen, and they paid essentially no tariffs.
And I said, we have a forty one billion dollar
deficit with you, madam. I didn't know her. I said,
we have a forty one billion dollar deficit, and you
want to you want to pay one percent tariffs? She
wanted one percent. I said, you're not going to pay

(38:54):
one percent. We lose because I viewed deficit as lost.
You know, you have some people.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
By the way, I think opticals are a big issue
with Switzerland.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
Well I'll go I'll go into pharmaceuticals. They make a
fortune with pharmaceuticals, and they make our pharmaceuticals in China
and Ireland and everything else. And within the next week
or so, we're going to be announcing tariffs on specifically
this is a you know, this is a separate class,
and the fifteen percent tariffs on sort of everything. These
are excluded classes I call them. I like to call

(39:24):
them excluded, like steel, aluminum.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Et cetera.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
We're going to be announcing on semiconductors and chips, which
is a separate category because we want them made in
the United States. And by the way, they're being made
in the United States.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
You know, we have the.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Biggest in the world, as you know, from Taiwana is
coming over and spending three hundred billion dollars in Arizona
building the biggest plant in the world for chips and semiconductors.
But on pharmaceuticals, we'll be putting a initially small tariff
on pharmaceuticals, but in one year one and a half
year's maximum, it's going to go to one hundred fififty percent,

(40:00):
and then it's going to go to two hundred and
fifty percent because we want pharmaceuticals made in our catchy.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
This is absolutely I'm sorry, and I've got to just
stop it, because this is a absurd b It's a
kind of you're it's like a self own like, why
would you want to put a two hundred and fifty
percent or one hundred and fifty percent tariff on pharmaceuticals?
What does that mean will happen with those who are

(40:30):
buying drugs in America? I mean pharmaceutical drugs needed for
cancer treatment, needed for ourthritis treatment, needed for whatever. It
means that you're going to be paying that tariff two
hundred and fifty percent, two and a half times more
than the cost of the medication now, and the medication
is already more expensive than any other medication you can

(40:51):
get in the world. That is to say, go anywhere
else in the world and it's cheaper. Americans pay more
for pharmaceuticals than any other country on Earth. If you
really want it to be the populist president that you
say you want to be, you would do something about that,
not in the way that you're doing it by saying, well,

(41:12):
I want to onshore the production of pharmaceuticals. So in
the interim, while we're working on that, on shoring, I'm
going to tariff pharmaceuticals coming from Switzerland one hundred and
fifty percent to two hundred and fifty percent. It's absurd.
It's as though he only understands the word tariffs, which

(41:37):
is taxes, import taxes. He only understands that. He doesn't
understand incentivizing the production of pharmaceuticals in this country. Much
of the production associated with so many of things, things
steel included, is automated. It's now been offshored. This ship
has sailed. Now what you're doing, I'll just pivot to

(41:59):
steel for a second, is you're taking steel manufacturing and
it's a fraction of what it used to be. But
in Trump's mind, because he's still in nineteen fifty five,
steel production in America is this robust world of economic potential. Now,
go to a steel mill, tell me how many people

(42:22):
are still working there. It's been automated to hell, it's robots,
working in these steel plants. But even if they had
the people that they had, and granted there are still
people involved in the process, that is a slim fraction
of the number of people who you are allowing to
benefit from the industries that work with imported steel. Think

(42:47):
about it. The construction industry, the auto industry. These are
industries that employ huge numbers of people, dwarfing the number
of people that are employed at these steel plants. Donald
Trump doesn't get it, and he surrounded himself with people

(43:07):
who are yes men generically and women filled. I mean,
Telsea Gabbert is the you know, she is the yes
woman parade leader. Yes, sir, look what I found on
Hillary Clinton. Sir, Oh my god, Look, Iran, I was wrong.
I said they weren't close to a nuclear weapon, but
it turns out they were just hours away from developing
a nuclear weapons. Sir. You're so great. I mean, she

(43:30):
can't wait to join the cult. The new cult is Trump.
So Trump is asleep at the switch, clueless, and in
an extended conversation with people who again, these are people
on his team at CNBC. They're Trumpies, a lot of them.
Joe Kernan is mega man and He's trying to get

(43:53):
the President to say something that is in some way credible,
and he can't. Just Trump doesn't know anything. So it's
all about I can spend that money anyway I want.
And by the way, when he says I'm putting a
six hundred billion dollar tariff on the EU, you can

(44:15):
say that you are you don't you don't put a
tariff and then do the numbers on what's coming out
of the EU and come up with six hundred billion.
No way, you're finding industries in the EU that they
just won't do business with the United States. You don't
know what that number is. We may never see that money.
I mean, he's inventing this. He is spinning this total fiction.

(44:39):
And I feel as though too many Americans just don't
get it, so that I wanted to share a little
bit of But man, it's a Here is something. This
is from a European publication. The European Commission he talks
about is unable to design an implement investments on behalf

(45:01):
of the private sector. The six hundred billion that is
mentioned and described by the European Commission is an indication
based on executives' contacts with industries. So it's a very
squishy number to begin with, and the Europeans are just
trying to tell Trump something to get Trump off their back.

(45:26):
It's utter lunacy, utter lunacy.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I have a bit of a breaking news story, and
that is a bomb threat at a hotel in Chicago
where many of the Democrats who fled Texas to avoid
this vote on redistricting are staying. One of the Texas
state representatives, his name is John Busey the Third, posted
online this is what happens when Republican state leaders publicly

(45:53):
call for us to be hunted down, and he wrote,
Texas Democrats will not be intimidated. Had to evacuate the
hotel and it looks like everything is okay, but someone
figured out where they were staying and called in a
bomb thread at the Chicago hotel.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
And this is sadly in our future. I think this
stochastic terrorism and the one off terrorism, the lone wolf
terrorism animated by rhetoric on the part of leaders, and
no one animates this kind of thing like the President
of the United States. It's sad, but it's just true,

(46:31):
all right. That's the latest on the Trump interview, and
also on the breaking news. We will follow that also
the Texas redistricting, and we're going to ask David Katz
about all of that the legal side when we continue
in the second hour. I'll also mention that a couple
of people emailed us questions for David Katz, and we'll
ask those questions to David Katz as well. If you

(46:54):
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Speaker 1 (47:30):
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But I'm not gonna try. I'm not gonna all I
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And Mark Robinson has pushed me to the brink of
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(47:51):
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(48:15):
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Speaker 7 (48:27):
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we got demonetized by playing the Gregorian chant music, remember,

(49:19):
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I don't think it's ever really been missing, but I do.
Let me just I don't think I have they. I
hope I can spend a little more time on this though.
I know everybody that's right, Mark, do you want people,

(49:54):
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Speaker 3 (50:36):
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Speaker 7 (51:12):
I loved it. How would you have this?

Speaker 10 (51:16):
We could try ignore us, or.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
You cannot say you love your country?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Where am I weed? Smokers at stay at home and
get baked right on everyone, right on awper. Did you
have any luck finding that piece that I mentioned to
you that I'd read about the tariffs and the companies
that are battling the tariffs that are meant to actually
benefit them. It's kind of a wild story, you know,

(51:43):
if you had any luck with That's New York Times piece.
But two manufacturing, here's a I'll just it's a little
sliver of how the tariffs cut the other way. Then
we'll get into the Texas redistricting again with David Katz,
et cetera. But this is a family business in Washington,

(52:05):
and they've been manufacturing speakers. I'm sorry, it's not in Washington.
It's in Minnesota. I don't know why I said Washington.
I think it's because the tariffs are coming out of Washington,
so they give it that bone. Anyway, it's a Minnesota business.
They've been manufacturing speakers, you know, speakers for audio systems
for seventy five years, and even as US competitors shut

(52:29):
their factories and relocate to Asia, they manufacture in this country.
So this is the very kind of company that Donald
Trump celebrates. Right, and Trump has begun imposing tariffs on
Chinese exports. He began that in twenty eighteen in an

(52:51):
effort to help US manufacturers like this guy who runs
the speaker company. So he this guy has been forced
to offshore some of their manufacturing, and tariffs have pushed
up the cost of foreign parts that go into his
speakers that are built in this country.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Which makes the whole product more expensive.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Right, thank you. He's pushed up the cost of these speakers.
His situation illustrates one of the perils of the President's
tariff policy. They're intended to raise the cost of foreign
goods and to encourage consumers to buy domestically. The tariffs

(53:36):
are giving them a chance to compete with cheap imports,
particularly from China. But many businesses do business globally. That
is the global economy that we talk so much about
on this show, and the tariffs are having the opposite effect.
Levies are being imposed on parts that go into these

(54:02):
various speakers, and now the speakers and their prices are rising.
And small manufacturers, this is a small business out of Minnesota,
they are being hurt to the point that his business
is teetering. So these materials that come from overseas, there
are many of them, and you know, they are in speakers,

(54:23):
they're in car parts that come in many of the
cars are assembled in Canada, as you know, and then
they come into the US. There is a real global
economy when it comes to this kind of industrial production,
and it's reflected directly in these stories which aren't hidden.
I mean, this is stuff that the President of the
United States should have access to. So this guy's saying,

(54:47):
we're starting with a five dollars percent, a fifty five
percent excuse me, material costs disadvantage to our global competitors.
Ooh ouch yeah, fifty five percent, said parts from China
then finished speakers from either China or Vietnam are making

(55:07):
it hard for us to compete. Making things here and
exporting them isn't really feasible as long as these tariffs
are in place. He said. This situation stems from the
administration's broad brush approach to tariffs. Trump has applied levies
to bananas, bolts, t shirts, robots, seemingly without regard to

(55:29):
whether those industries can or will relocate to the US.
He can say, I want to onshore all this stuff,
but some of the stuff you can't even onshore. You
can't onshore bananas.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
With all the stories like this, it's very clear that
Trump doesn't really care about small business or small businesses.
Just the big, the big boys, the big billionaire businesses.
That's the business he's trying to bring to America. He
doesn't care about the mom Pa kind of stuff going
on exactly right.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I think that big business is running America, big business.
And you could say that we were an oligarchical government
for a long time, you know, under democratic rule as well.
But I think here you see it in a more
naked way, and you also see somebody who really doesn't
understand economics. I understand he had this image that was
completely a fiction as well, created by Mark Burnett as

(56:22):
the Apprentice, kind of with the slow motion walk from
the Trump plane and Trump helicopter. Established some guy who
was a huge success. He inherited a bunch of money
from his dad, lost it, multiple bankruptcies, went under in
the casino industry, viewed in New York widely as a
failed businessman. He was just a socialite, and he licensed

(56:44):
successfully the Trump name on a bunch of buildings. Now
that he's become president of United States, he can be
a legit billionaire because you've seen all the money flow
into him. Because he has the power to make and
break futures for countries, for people, and he can make
as of lives, and he can make a mess of policy.
And so those who depend on these things, all of

(57:05):
us do on some level, we have to make concessions.
And you see all the concessions being made across the
board in all of these industries. But the billionaire's boys club,
which as you say, Kim, this billionaire boys club that
is his cabinet, his crew, and those who are close
to the cabinet, the Lutnix.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
Of the world.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, they are just sycophants, and they will see to
it that any Trump policy benefits their billionaire friends. I
think that's an absolutely fair point.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I have a story in news, and I don't know
if we'll get to news, so I'll just mention it.
But Trump today is announcing a one hundred billion dollar
investment from Apple today, and he's very proud of this. Meanwhile,
these small businesses you mentioned are collapsing under the weight
of these tariffs, but apparently Apple is going to invest
in a US manufacturing area to increase domestic production and

(57:58):
to avoid these terrors.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
It just is wild. Yeah. Yeah, And you know, Apple
is a company that's affected quite dramatically. And you know,
one of the reasons they did so well, they had
an amazing quarter, is because so many people bought iPhones
and other Apple products fearing that the imposition of these
import taxes would make these things so much more expensive.

(58:22):
And they will. But that's just part of the picture
I mentioned. I mean, this trade policy supposedly is supposed
to reverse trends when it comes to import export and
the reality is there's a limit to what you can do.
I mentioned that small business in Minnesota. I mean that's
just one of them. Yeah, these tariffs will hurt and

(58:45):
have hurt American small business. And then the irony of
that is that so many small business people felt, oh,
I want to get a Republican in there, They're good
for business. That's a total fiction as well. I mean
small businessiness and business has not flourished under these Republican
administrations and isn't flourishing now, in fact struggling. So I

(59:07):
do want to get to Kim's news, get caught up
on that. Then I've got David Katz coming in. I've
got your questions for David, the brilliant legal analyst, will
break down a lot of what's going on in Texas,
the legality and illegality of what's being called for FBI
agents who may be called in to handle arrests, to
locate and arrest Democrats who fled the state because they

(59:30):
don't want to vote in the legislature and give the
power of a new gerrymanderd map to the Republicans in
the state of Texas. We'll get to all of that
as we continue Mark Thompson shill The Mark Thompson Show.

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fives soldiers injured in a shooting at Fort Stewart and
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miles southwest of Savannah, Georgia. The White House as President

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Trump has been briefed on this shooting. Vice President JD.
Vance will convene at dinner with top Trump officials, apparently
reportedly to discuss the release of audio and transcripts with
Glaine Maxwell. Discussions are expected to focus on the administration's
handling of the Epstein case and the need for a

(01:00:34):
unified response. Vance, by the way, denying this report. The
DOJ interviewed Maxwell and Florida last month over a period
of two days. She is serving her twenty year sentence
in federal prison for sex trafficking charges in connection to
the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, but she has been
moved now to a prison camp just.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Too make the point and We'll keep this short because
Debiekats is waiting. But the reality is what I mentioned
yeah yesterday in regard to this, there will be no
release of any import when it comes to these Epstein conversations,
Epstein related conversations Gallinne Maxwell with Todd Blanche. If they
release anything, it'll be you'll see statements like I never

(01:01:16):
saw Donald Trump involved in anything Donald Trump. Oh, I
know that Donald Trump didn't know this, or blah blah
blah blah didn't know that. Yes, they were friends, but
my understanding was that Donald Trump had no appetite for
anything that Epstein was. It'll be some version of that
and otherwise wildly redacted. And what they might do depending
is they might try to smear high profile Democrats because

(01:01:38):
there were high profile Democrats and Republicans involved in all
of this, which is one of the reasons that the
Epstein files haven't been released so far. So there's going
to be no wholesale release of these Epstein files in
any kind of way, and including the latest conversation with
Todd Blanche and Glenn Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Governor Greg Abbott wants to out the so called Democratic
ring leader who fled the state to block a vote
on a Republican congressional redistricting plan. Abbot has asked the
Texas Supreme Court, the state Supreme Court there, to remove him.
Representative Jeane Wu defending his actions and accusing Abbot of
using the law as a weapon to silence people. More

(01:02:20):
than fifty Democratic lawmakers fled to block that plan, and
again with the breaking news today, many of them fled
to Chicago, where their hotel is now under a bomb threat.
But everybody's okay. Texas Republican Senator John Cornran wants to
get the FBI involved in arresting Democratic state lawmakers who fled.
Cornwan asking the FBI to track him down, and President

(01:02:41):
Trump offering support for that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Well, we'll ask David Katz about that. I mean, that's
an extraordinary request given what's going on politically.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Relief on the way for millions in the eastern US,
they've been dealing with poor air quality due to smoke
from Canadian wildfires. A wind shift now expected to push
smoke away from the surface, and most of the air
quality alerts will start to be lifted tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
And where is that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
This is in the Eastern United States where they've been
dealing with inundated by the Canadian wildfire. Got it ICE
removing age limits for prospective officers. They're so desperate for people,
they're now opening it up. According to a post on
x by the Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome,
qualified candidates can now apply with no age limit. Used

(01:03:28):
to be thirty seven, now no age limit at all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Yeah, and they're offering a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus
to law enforcement agents who join ICE. They're trying to
poach law enforcement agencies, cops, sheriffs, et cetera, to join ICE,
and they're offering those kinds of incentives.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Despite a federal court order limiting the scope of immigration
enforcement operations in the Los Angeles area, Federal agents carried
out a raid and made multiple arrests. The operation about
three blocks away from MacArthur Park at a home depot.
A total of sixteen people taken into custody, and the
National Weather Service is looking to hire hundreds of new

(01:04:08):
employees months after they were hit by the DOGE cuts.
The National Weather Service plans to bring on four hundred
and fifty meteorologists, radar texts and hydrologists. The number reportedly
includes more than one hundred new positions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Come on. I mean, it's what they needed to do.
They're trying to right the ship, which they've already capsized.
But it's just sad. You desperately need these forecasters, no
question about it. But wow, we've lost so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Well, we fired them and then now we have to
hire them. Why do we fire them in the first place?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
And there's no security. I mean, now when you look
at this rehiring, it's like there's just absolutely no security.
You realize on a whim you could be fired again.
They were fired without cause.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Transportation Secretary and interim NASA Administrator Sean Duffy is outlining
the space agency's accelerated play to build a nuclear reactor
on the Moon. No, I'm not kidding. According to the Duffy,
the agency has spent millions on studies, but will now
plan to move beyond studying and will be given direction

(01:05:14):
to go the fast track plan, part of the administration's
attention to human spaceflight. It appears to be Duffy's first
major directive since being selected to lead NASA on an
interim basis.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
On a nuclears Your interim head is saying we're going
to institute a bold new plan to build a nuclear
reactor on the moon. Thises go wrong. Listen exactly what
I was talking about at the beginning of the show.
They have auto incompetence in charge of this country, but
there are loyalists. Yes, sir, I've got ale. My new idea, sir,

(01:05:48):
is a nuclear reactor on the moon. These are people
who are creating an environment where you could have solar
energy here, but they have made it so tough with
taxes and all ways in which they're discouraging solar energy
here to exist. But somehow they're going to begin. And
they spent millions, is what you're saying on the research. Bs.

(01:06:10):
They spent you spent millions on the research, and they
told you that a nuclear reactor on the moon made sense.
Who are the people who are taking the millions of
dollars in research money? Unbelievable, Absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I know we have David Katz waiting, so a little
quickie on the way out. Stanford University having to cut
hundreds of jobs. The school says President Trump is to blame.
And lastly, a stunt biker brought the Sturgist crowd to
its feet by doing something even Evil Knievel never did this.
Last weekend, Rockstar Energy athlete Colby Raja set a new

(01:06:45):
world record for the longest motorcycle jump. It was two
hundred and five feet right in the middle of the
packed Thunderdome.

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Wow.

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Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Thomson Our two is already underway. And this guy is
such a gift to us.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I think the leading voice in the English speaking world
when it comes to breaking down the law. David Kats
is a remarkable guy. When it comes to complex legal
issues being explained to those of us who are lay people.
You can find him. This former federal prosecutor explaining complex
legal issues on London Radio, London Television, on Fox News Channel,

(01:08:03):
on News Nation. I think they use him in this
kind of debate format that they run on the weekend
on News Nation, and of course across television stations here
in America and New Zealand Australia. He is wonderful to
join us every week, the great David Kats everyone and Mark.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
What a gracious introduction. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, well, we're so grateful for you being here. Tell
me about the legality associated with what's happening in Texas.
They're certainly able to redistrict again in a heavily gerrymandered
state like Texas. But the legal question I have for
you is about the Democrats leaving to avoid a quorum

(01:08:43):
existing so that they can vote in these new redistricted maps,
which are even more severely drawn and give the GOP
the five seats that Trump wants. They're leaving the state,
and they've left to go to Illinois for the most part.
To draw attention to what's happening in Texas. It's obviously
a long term strategy. But now you have the president
and you have the governor of Texas calling for the

(01:09:06):
FBI to locate and arrest these Democrats.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Well, it must be in the Texas Constitution mark that
there has to be a quorum for the two houses
to do any official business, because otherwise they would have
changed that because they have dominant control of both houses.
So it must be that the Democrats have enough seats
that they can stop the entire chamber from proceeding if

(01:09:31):
they deny them a quorum. And so they've had to
do that several times because it is such a predominantly
republican state. And so they did this once before and
they gave great fines and all sorts of interiorum orders.
They did that again, and the Democrats in the House
and the Senate there in the state of Texas have

(01:09:52):
left the state. Apparently it's not a civil or criminal
offense to have done that, and therefore it doesn't seem
to be a basis to arrest them. You know, what
would be the grounds. It would seem like all they
would do would be hail them back into the state
of Texas, and then I guess they'd be admonished or something,
and then I think they might very well leave again.

(01:10:14):
Now he's tried to avoid that by imposing fines on them.
Then Texas wants to have secondary fines. So like if
you and I donate money for the support of one
of those Texas Democrats, supposedly we could be liable in
this kind of secondary punishment. And now, of course Texas
has tried to up it even more by saying that

(01:10:34):
the FBI should go around. And you know, I know
a lot of FBI special agents. Like I've said before,
many of them are lawyers, many of them are accountants.
They're very highly trained people. They have a tremendous skill set,
and they're extremely unhappy that they have to go on
these raids with the ice jackets people, and they have
to wear their FBI jackets on those raids where they

(01:10:57):
raid construction sites and meet packing plants and all of
those things where are not criminals but there's just hard
working people busting their ass and helping their families and
helping our US economy. So the FBI is already extremely unhappy,
and now with their FBI jackets where they have to
go pick up some congress person in Illinois or New York.

(01:11:17):
So I think this is a bluff, but I think
there are other things that they'll try to do. I mean,
at some point, you can only desert the states. So
long you know you're a Democratic Assembly a member or
a state senator. You've got a medical appointment, you know
what I mean, You've got to go to your kids
party and they say, okay, now you're in the state.

(01:11:38):
And I think they're going to try to manipulate it
that way. At the very end mark, they are going
to do this redistricting. And that's why California needs to
be ready to do our counter districting. We cannot have
unilateral disarmament. We cannot have the Good Government Group saying
wait a second, we have to defend this commission that
we have in California and.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Watch Rome burn.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Rome is burning about to take control of the House
no matter what the people of this country think at
a year and a half, because they're going to sow
Jerrymander Texas. And if we don't have redistricting here in
California to counteract it, we're just going to be sitting
there saying, well, I don't know, how did Trump become dictator?
We all believe in good government. How come Trump and

(01:12:18):
his people didn't believe in good government? Oh well, I
guess next decade, maybe we end the dictatorship.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Are you kidding? We're not going to do that in California.
Game on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I don't know how many seats we can pick up
in California, and I'm not sure the logistics of a
special election, and you'd have to walk me through how
it's possible. It's clearly desirable. I'm just saying I could
be done. Mark, it can be done.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
There's enough time that it can be done and put
on the ballot. I guess in November. There has to
be a comment period. There has to be time to
get the initiative on the ballot, but there is starting
right now time.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
And then the idea would be that it only applies
to let's say this next election.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Uh, and then maybe it has to be renewed to
apply to the next election, so that the people of
California would have the assurance that this was just a
necessary countermeasure to save democracy and to save you know,
the validity of the vote across the country. But it
wouldn't be a permanent thing. And as soon as Texas
stopped and other states stopped doing this, which is a
total ripoff of the vote, Uh, then we would go

(01:13:27):
right back we'd go right back to the commission.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
But there's power.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Yeah, there's time enough to do it, and do it
in time, and then we could stop immediately if Texas
stops immediately.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
But Texas, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Just Texas, it's Florida that's moving. I mean in the
red states, en Mass or moving to sort of redistrict.
To answer the President's cry, we have.

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
More, mark, we have more.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
If you got New York, which is willing to do it,
Illinois could do it in a heartbeat. There's no way
that the states, the red states, the ones that are
controlled by governors and legislators that could push this through,
we would have more votes than they would.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Those are the big three, California, Illinois.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
Not only are we not going to unilaterally disarmed, but
we're going to win this war.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Normally, people who look at it clear eyed, even if
they're right wingers and say we're going to lose this war,
don't want to lose the war. And then, as I said,
we'd go right back to the commissions, and we go
right back to the systems that we have. If you
know Florida and Texas backed off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
We got an email for you, and this kind of
works with this question. So I'll read this question, then
I'll read the email, and then you can respond. CC
writer says, I suspect the maps will get redrawn eventually,
Democrats must file lawsuit immediately challenging the and constant challenging
the constitutionality of the maps. Before you respond to that,
I just want to read sort of a similar email

(01:14:48):
asking about that from Donna. Can you ask debdcats if
it is possible that, if and probably when the Texas
maps are pasted, can they be held up in the
courts until after November so they cannot go into effect.
And then there's another email asking about how the FEDS

(01:15:09):
can challenge the legitimacy of the map. Now, the reason
I would suggest the FEDS don't want to do that
is because the government is controlled by Maggot now, so
the FEDS aren't going to become involved. But can you
speak to the legality being challenged, whether there's a lawsuit
that could hold it up, and then again, the relationship
between the FEDS and the state of Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
Those are such great questions from you and from our
audience as you sort of game this out. First of all,
the maps in Texas will be challenged. But the problem
is they'll probably be shopped to a district judge there
who will affirm them.

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
And if they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Shopped to a district judge who affirms them, if somehow
it goes to a judge who throws them out, then
I think the Fifth Circuit will back up the Texas legislature.
The Fifth Circuit is extremely conservative. It's the one that
would get at these votes. They're often overturned by this
US Supreme Court, the six' to Three Supreme court that we.
Have they often overturn things from The Fifth circuit because

(01:16:09):
they're too far, right they're too. Kooky so you figure
The Kooki Fifth circuit would probably affirm the. Redistricting there's
a certain risk because The Ninth circuit is more. Balanced
that's the one that would Hear california's. Redistricting there's a
possibility That California's Ninth, circuit The Ninth circuit sitting out
here The Federal Circuit, court would delay the redistricting In

(01:16:35):
california from going into. Effect you can imagine THE Us Supreme,
court which has shown a proclivity to do this, before
would go very slow on orders that they don't like
and go very fast on orders that they want to.
Reverse so you can have a situation where the Fifth
circuit down, there fairly predictably would affirm the redistricting and
the addition of five seats In, texas and yet The

(01:16:58):
Ninth circuit two to one something like that would delay
ours going into. Effect but that's Why illinois And New
york would do, it and the Seventh, CIRCUIT i think
in the circuit In New york would pretty reliably back
up the. Redistricting AS i, say if you game it all,
out and you're the right wingers In, texas they really
ought to cease and desist from. This but the problem

(01:17:19):
is they Have trump twisting their. Arm trump is willing
to play out this whole game because as things go right,
now he has to lose The. House the economy is
going down so, much he's so, Unpopular democrats are so
energized to go out in the mid. Term he will
lose The house in the, midterms and he's desperate to do,
something and this is what he's.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Doing, OKAY o question the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Other, question the question about holding it up until after the,
election that could the legal challenges just delay the new
districts until after the. Election they're challenging.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Them BUT i have no confidence in The Fifth, circuit
which if the District, judge no matter how the district judge,
rules The Fifth, circuit which covers all Of texas And,
LOUISIANA i, believe will do whatever The texas legislature wants to.
Do SO i think that there's very little chance of
winning against the redistricting in time to stop it before

(01:18:13):
the midterm elections coming in a year and a. Half
and AS i was, saying there's some chance because they'll
challenge it from the right out. Here if you, know
if we add let's, say seven seats In california that you,
know referendum, wins of course there'll be huge. Challenges there
are huge challenges to all of these things right. Now what's,

(01:18:33):
interesting and we had kind of an obscure case last
term that you, know we had so much to pay
attention to from THE Us Supreme. COURT i think we
did touch on it in one of our, shows but
they issued a very important, decision THE Us Supreme court
did regarding. Redistricting and you, know this jerrymandering has been around.
Forever it's Some massachusetts politician in like eighteen ten that

(01:18:55):
came up with this bretant. IDEA i think that was Mister,
jerry Or Governor, jerry and he made the districts look
like a. Salamander Hence jerry the politician and mander. Jerrymandering
and if you look at the, map it does look
like a. Salamander and people may not sort of understand
what is the point of.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
This it's so.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Technical why do they do these? Things but let me
just explain, this you, know really, quickly in The North
dakota example that went to The Supreme court just very.
Recently so there's An indian, tribe A Native american, tribe
and if they could vote in the local assembly in
a sort of rational, districts the ones that actually exist in,
geography mark the ones that you just kind of chop

(01:19:36):
the state up this, way and everybody votes in The court,
area there's one hundred thousand people, there so they. Vote
there's one hundred thousand people next door and they. Vote
there would be Three Native american seats because they'd be
about fifty five or sixty percent in all three of those.
Districts if you figure it, out if you put all
of The Native americans in a salamander thing where the tribe.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
Lives, right then you have a ninety five.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Percent in A Native american, district which of course is
going to elect somebody who's of the liking of The Native.
Americans but what's going to happen in the other. Districts
they're going to lose every single other. District so they
had lost two out of the, three and in the
case they won three out of. Three they won three
out of three without the, gerrymander because then you had
a sixty Forty Native, american.

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
A sixty Forty Native, american a sixty Forty Native, american
and they won all.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Three that case went to The Eighth, circuit which is
the one that's there where The dakotas, are and went
up to The Supreme. Court and The Eighth circuit is so,
conservative they're like The Fifth. Circuit they, said You Native
americans don't even have the right to. Sue there's no
private right of, action and so you don't even have
a right to. Sue you've got to sit there and
twiddle your, thumbs Your Native. Americans and if your right

(01:20:44):
Wing Republican attorney general doesn't take action on your, behalf you're.
Stuck that's what The Eighth circuit. Said THE Us Supreme,
court bless their, souls stayed. That they, said, no they
let that go into. Effect they let there be a
map which gave The Native americans their three votes in that.
Situation so we're gonna see what THE Us Supreme court

(01:21:04):
does this term with a case From Louisiana, mark which
takes on this redistricting head, on not for a, stay.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
Not the shadow. Docket but here's the merits of.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
It and people may be sort of, surprised but THE
Us Supreme court has said previously that there is no
right in The constitution to fight a. Jerrymander this is
up to the. States the states can, jerrymander they can
cherry pick as much as they want, to with the
sole exception they cannot do it on the basis of
race or one of those prohibited factors like. That and
What louisiana said, was guess, what you, know why we

(01:21:35):
made just one black majority district down In louisiana and
five that white people end up, winning That republicans end up.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Winning it's not about, race it's about. Politics we want
them to be Five republicans and One. Democrat it's not about.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Race it's about Five republicans and One democrat in a
state which is about thirty five Percent, democratics so it
should have Two democrats seats In. Congress and the question
is is there going to be this Second democratic seat or.
Not that's batted around in the. Courts that's the one
going up to THE Us Supreme. Court but What i'm

(01:22:10):
trying to say at the end of the day is
that the redistricting we have to meet fire with, fire
because don't wait for THE Us Supreme court to throw
out What texas is about to.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Do it will. Not in my, opinion we got to
fight fire with.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Fire i'm seeing that the constitutionality Of Jerry mannering is it's.
Constitutional Jerry, mannering there's no question that's. Constitutional but the illegal, question.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
They, say there's nothing in the constitution which prohibits.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
It prohibits, it, right so there's only it's. Constitutional the
question becomes then it's a legal matter of fair representation
in The in The justices, judgment not.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Really Because Chief Justice Roberts mark, said you, know actually
this seems pretty, unfair but it's not, unconstitutional, Right but it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
Does seem pretty. Unfair but you, know we're not here
to correct every unfairness in the.

Speaker 10 (01:22:56):
World of, course it seems like what it's A republican
cause it's they were dear to their, heart they seem
to be ready go around correct what they consider.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Unfairnesses but it's just unfairness that people have common sense
think is. Unfair they suddenly, say, well where's your specific constitutional?

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Right but to the point they'll, say, hey it's, constitutional
and you, know just say it's a political.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Question, Mark let's say it's a political.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Question they've got to hammer it out in each state,
legislature each state.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
Electorate And california has a way to do.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
It you got to say one thing for THE Us Supreme,
court there is a way for The blue states to counteract.
It this is not a situation where we're totally, powerless
where some situations you're really just totally. Powerless this environmental, Thing,
mark you just throw your hands up in the. Air you,
KNOW i, mean what are we supposed to do about?
This you, know the environment affects the whole, planet affects
the whole. Country what the hell Is california by itself

(01:23:47):
going to? Do but here's something Where, california by itself can.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Do, something, uh just to round it, off because this
is about voting and, representation et. Cetera and it was
asked in the email believe about THE feds coming in
and challenging the, redistrict AND i was just making the, Point,
well The feds are. Maga now they're not going to
challenge a map that is redistricted in their favor In.
Texas but The feds have come in in many instances

(01:24:14):
to affect voting rights and to historically right wrongs in The,
states haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
They the New Trump Civil Rights, Division, mark it's breathtaking
because Since LYNDON. B, johnson even The republicans have basically,
said the civil rights laws are to protect you, know
people of, color the, minorities this sort of. Thing and
they do less of, it of course Under bush And

(01:24:43):
reagan than they do under The. Democrats but this was
always the, thrust this was the direction of.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Something, well now they're going to try to protect people of,
color it's just the white. Color you're so, Right, Mark
you're so.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
Right and so now we're supposed to sit, BY i,
mean what also are we supposed to? Do they're in, power,
right we can you, know, right, editorials and we could
organize and we can do all those kinds of. Things
but their view of the world mark is, that, yes
they need to defend these terribly put upon white, people
white men.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
And, jews and it's just. Extraordinary And i'm JUST i.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Shudder they talk about anti Anti, semitism BUT i shudder
to think of the Anti semitic.

Speaker 6 (01:25:21):
BACKLASH i hope it never. COMES i hope it never.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Comes but you, know there's a whole lot of people
of The jewish faith here that don't like the way
this administration's. Going they don't like the way things are
going In, gaza they don't like the. Settlements we don't
like any of. It and it's not because we're Anti.
Semitic the dream of The jewish people is not to
be in the situation That israel has put itself in
world opinion and what its conduct is right, now and

(01:25:47):
to have this contra even you, Know i'm sure it
wasn't great to have to walk around these. Encampments i'm
sure it wasn't great if you were wearing a yamica
that somebody made a slur against.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
You none of that was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Great but my, god how they've tried to bring these
major universities to heal over the supposed, rampant rampant and anti.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Semitism Leave harvard In columbia And berkeley.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
ALONE i, mean that's what ninety eight percent of Their jewish,
Students i'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Believe it's only.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Bad are universities? Alone don't don't protect us from anti.
Semitism please leave Us jews alone on. Campus let us Enjoy, Berkeley,
harvard And. Columbia.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Please, well just because you mentioned, it you know the,
Administration i'm sure you saw, this is now gaining access
because all of these universities to what you've, referred they've
all tapped, out they've all rolled. Over it's just easier
to play ball with the administration because they cover so
much in the way of investment dollars when it comes to.
Research they support these institutions in so many, Ways so

(01:26:48):
pay them there whatever. Money it's an extortion really of
money from these. Ivys just because you Mentioned Ivy league
schools in large, measure and now they're giving the administration
access to their admissions. Records they're actually now. Reviewing this,
administration this gang of thieves is looking at the admission

(01:27:11):
policies and these specific admissions associated with all of these,
universities to make certain that it is truly neutral and
that there is no minority gaining some kind of favorable
admissions policy in any of these places to which you've
Referred columbia And, harvard et. Cetera you, know it's big brother.

(01:27:36):
Stuff it's absolutely big brother, stuff is WHAT i would.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Say AND i think that they have Some, yeah there's
a great graphic for, it and of course it's a you,
KNOW i hate to say, it maybe it sounds really,
elitist but it all seems to me, like you, know
the revenge of The, nitwitz the revenge of the people
who never could get Into, Berkeley harvard Or, columbia which
is The trumpet meministration and all of its you, know d,

(01:28:02):
Students and you can start right at the. Beginning you
can start WITH Rfk junior what he just did. Today
he's going to curtail research on. VACCINES i, mean people
out there who, think, oh we have this really interesting
intellectual discussion on mark and it's so. Fascinating it it
doesn't really affect my life very. Much this affects your
life as well as a lot of other things that
we talk about this affects your life because, vaccines that's

(01:28:23):
what he's going to.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Do he's got the.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
POWER Rfk junior and The trump administration they have the,
power and they just defunded a huge amount of research on.
Vaccine so the NEXT covid wave that comes, around the
next thing they could have cured with those vaccines that they're,
developing the money's not going to be there for, them
and nobody else can come. Up it's hundreds of millions of.
DOLLARS i don't. Know Maybe gates can do, that maybe
somebody can do. That Maybe buffett wants to leave large

(01:28:48):
part of his fortune to doing something about medical research like.
That but you, know they have real real impact on,
yes on the universities on research And. Mark just to
follow up on your, point the universities have become. Dependent
but you can't blame. Them you just can't blame the.
Universities they do this medical. Research what are they supposed to?

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
Do not do cancer?

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Research because they think some lunatic Like trump might come
into power and HAVE Rfk junior and have these other
clowns in his administration and they're going to cut us.
Off so what twenty years ago we weren't going to
start doing research and developing all these great. Things, no
and the foreign, students what are they supposed to to.
Have you know that we educate the world as part
of our soft, power that the whole brain drain wants

(01:29:29):
to come.

Speaker 6 (01:29:29):
Here that's not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Inevitable but you, know When trump cuts it off and
makes it so hard for them to get visas and
does all these other, things people don't want to come here.
Anymore but he can do more than just Disincentivize barn's
brilliant students from coming. Here what he can, Do mark
is not issue them, visas make their life, difficult and
that the universities can't afford. It some of them have
thirty percent of their, revenue these top name universities coming

(01:29:54):
from foreign. Students And, trump if he doesn't issue, visas
if he makes it really hard for that thirty percent
to come. Here and that's thirty percent of the tuition
between that the research, grants that everything.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
Else they're just whistling in the. Wind and they know.
It they know that they have to. Capitulate and it's
like the store.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Owner the store owner, says you, know, hey the, mafia
the black hand is going to come smash my.

Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Window and they just did it to my two. Neighbors
they smashed the two.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Windows and, no it's not right THAT i have to
pay protection money because otherwise they'll smash my. Window but guess,
what he's going to smash the window At columbia and
all these other schools that don't have the endowment Of
But columbia don't have the state Of california behind them
Like berkeley AND, ucla and so they just have to
they have to. Capitulate in three and a half, years
they'll be the. Restoration let's hope.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
That's the. Hope and now we pivot To. Epstein the
course THAT i, PREDICTED i took a little katcha damish.
UH i took the you.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
Didn't, ask Mister, predicto you DIDN'T.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I how COULD i? Not BUT i just, said it
seems so obvious to, me you know. What trump sued
The Wall Street, journal and he sued The Wall Street
journal because The Wall Street journal did that expose the birthday.
Card it was The epstein card That Donald trump had.
Illustrated then he, Said i've never done any. ILLUSTRATIONS i
don't draw. Women blah blah blah, blah, whatever and then

(01:31:15):
they found all these other illustrations that he'd, done et. Cetera,
anyway The Wall Street journal had all these. Details and So,
trump as he, does sued The Wall Street. Journal AND i,
said there's just no way this lawsuit proceeds because AND
i think we may have discussed it here as. Well in,
discovery of, course you can Depose Donald. Trump you can
actually gain all the access to The epstein files that people.

(01:31:36):
Want you get all of this now in that discovery.
Process and sure, Enough David, Katz Donald, trump and The
Wall Street journal Owner Rupert murdoch struck a deal related
to The president's lawsuit against the paper over its publication
of a story detailing a body birthday. Message body is
such a polite way to put. It While trump had

(01:31:57):
initially sought to Have murdock deposed swiftly in part his
advanced age and long standing health, issues the president has
now agreed to remove that. Request trump Sued murdoch again
as part of this overall lawsuit around this. Article and
by the, way AS i understand, it the defendant in this, Case,

(01:32:20):
murdoch it was, demanded shall be deposed within thirty. Days
but the defendants lawyers said, great and we on the
thirty first day want to Depose Donald, Trump and all
of a, sudden now everybody's backing off and, going we're
striking a. Deal can you sort this out for?

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
US i don't think they're going to make a deal
right now in terms of settling the whole. Lawsuit AND
i don't think That murdoch is going to pay any
significant amount of, Money and maybe as a matter of,
principle he won't even pay a dime or have The
Wall Street journal pay a dime because he does care
about the reputation of The Wall Street. Journal might they
turn on Like fox some night and see Like Sean

(01:33:02):
hannity and read The New York post someday and, think,
Really murdoch cares about the reputation of his, media but
he does care about The Wall Street journal and keeping
The Wall Street journal as a serious. Newspaper so he
printed what he. Printed i'm sure that his lawyers vetted.
This i'm sure that he has the birthday card, itself
or he's gotten access or one of his lawyers or

(01:33:24):
aids has gotten access to the birthday.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
Card i'm sure of what they're printing in this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Deal, Yes trump absolutely does not want to be, deposed
so he'll agree to anything that Stops trump from being.
Deposed what he was trying to do was say That
murdoch is so old and so sick it looked like
he was on his. Deathbed you do have a right
if someone's, like you, know got a terminal condition or
on their, deathbed you do have a right to take
their deposition and not wait until court because they may not.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
Be around for. Court so you can schedule a deposition
and make a showing how sick this person. Is that's
what he. Did part of it, was you, know to
rub it in On.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Murdoch and so their deal is That murdoch has, to
LIKE i don't, know every two weeks or, something tell
him what his health, condition which he'll probably go and
See trump's.

Speaker 6 (01:34:07):
Doctor, Right trump's doctor will Give murdoch.

Speaker 11 (01:34:12):
Greatest Health i've ever, seen goodness and that you, have,
right greatest, second greatest Person i've ever, seen ninety, four
like a twenty nine year.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
Old, okay so that that lawsuits really going uh nowhere
in terms of But trump had to you, know the, performance,
right he had to say it's.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
GARBAGE i, sued but he doesn't have any merger that he.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Wants he's not in the position of Like paramount AND
cbs or anything like that or OR i GUESS. Abc
he doesn't want anything really from, Them and so he
staked this claim in support of The Wall Street journal
and its top reporters and all that kind of. STUFF i,
mean he made great you, know just LIKE cbs really
alienated its correspondence by making the. Deal by not making the,

(01:35:00):
deal that was a way to really keep his top
quality at The.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Well, yeah this is a different situation because The Wall
Street journal people In murdoch need nothing From, trump, particularly
whereas The paramount, people THE cbs people needed that merger,
approved and they were all too willing to throw their
reporters and their journalism under the. Bus it was pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Ugly Apparently Sherry, Redstone Cherry, redstone apparently she's the. Heiress
apparently if that deal didn't go, through they reported that
the company was worth almost, nothing that if the deal
With ellison's son didn't go, through she would get almost.

Speaker 6 (01:35:36):
Nothing so she was just. There you, know she got
a lot of, money but she wanted a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
More and apparently her only she, had like basically her
hand Out Sherry, redstone and the only way that she
would see any more money was if she made that.
Deal and the only way to make that, deal it
seemed to, be was to get THAT fcc guy on
their side to approve the. Deal and the only way
to do that, was As colbert, says.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
You, know they say we spend lose forty million dollars
on the. Show, well look HOW cbs just gave away
sixteen million dollars like that wherever he's producing this beautiful
show and losing forty? Million what did they get for
that sixteen? Million and the argument is that they got
the quid pro quo of the approval of the, merger
which was worth everything To Sherry redstone's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Pocketbook, YEAH i, mean as it turns, out they didn't
handle the South park thing ahead of time, though and
they got pretty well roasted on the South park. Scene
by the, way if you want a deep dive that
will just spin your head around, everyone look At Sumner. Redstone,
okay That's Sherry redstone's, dad isn't it? Dad or ex? Husband,

(01:36:40):
now somebody can can tell me anyway the end of his,
Life Sumner, redstone who was easily the guy who created the.
Company the end of his, life the last five years
of his, life maybe even the last decade of his,
life which is informed by this. Decadence he was an older,
man old, man losing his intellectual and the acuity associated

(01:37:06):
with any sort of mental, clarity and he started eating
steaks and having threesomes and. Foursomes and it was a
it's a bizarro run if you ever JUST i. Would
it's A google search for those who have the appetite for.
IT i want to turn To Jack Smith's.

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
Mark one last.

Speaker 7 (01:37:24):
Thing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
MARK i think the family name Was, rostein and he
had a fascinating, career including changing his name To.

Speaker 6 (01:37:30):
Redstone, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Hish his work as a media entrepreneur is. Fascinating. YEAH i,
mean he built an immense, empire and the end of
his life really punctuated by this. Craziness and, then of,
course as you, say By Sherry redstone tapping out and
just wanting to get This skydance. Merger she was just an.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Heiress she Was she was just an. HEIRESS i understand
it to his, fortune but she landed on. TOP i
think she had really great lawyers because there was some
dispute over the whole state. Anyway Jack. Smith Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Smith federal officials investigating Former Special Council Jack smith After
President trump and other Prominent republicans have alleged that his
investigations into then Candidate trump amounted to illegal political. Activity
THE Us office Of Special, council which is supposedly an
independent federal, agency is saying that they are Investigating Jack

(01:38:23):
smith for alleged violations of The Hatch, act a law
that prohibits certain political activities from government. Officials trump and
his allies have not presented any specific evidence of, wrongdoing
as usual because the whole thing is, performative of, Course
but The office Of Special council is different from the
type Of Special council's office formerly headed By, smith who

(01:38:43):
was appointed by The department Of. Justice this agency lacks
the authority to bring criminal charges and prosecute individuals who
violate The Hatch, act but it may still seek disciplinary
action for a federal government employees of actions during the
time that they were part of the civil, workforce and

(01:39:03):
The Hatch act violations are then possibly referred to THE
doj for. Investigation you, know it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Must drive your audience, crazy this use Of Special, counsel
because it's used for so many different, things and it's very.
Confusing the special council, was of course What Jack smith.
Was he's the one who was appointed by the attorney.
General and if it looks like the attorney general might
have any conflict of interest in those gentlemanly and general
womanly days in.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Other, words six or eight months. Ago the if it
looked like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
You had a conflict of, interest if you were someone
like let's Say Todd, blanche you didn't get yourself in the.
Situation Todd blanch got into interviewing this incredibly critical witness
who could say things that were critical About. Trump but
if you were the attorney, general you were the you,
know attorney general of The United. States you were the
people's attorney. General you were not the president's. Law and

(01:40:00):
so if it looked like something like The Jack smith,
thing Where Merrick, garland democratic attorney general was going to
be investigating a Former republican, president you appointed a special.
Council that's the special council That Jack smith, was who
is being investigated by That trump wants him investigated by
someone else who has a title of special. Counsel, but
as you, say is not that at. All he's some

(01:40:24):
a bureaucrat who's in charge of These Hatch act. Investigations,
now A Hatch act is that if you're a federal,
employee unless you're at the very very, top you're not
supposed to be. Political you're supposed to be a civil,
servant you're supposed to be part of not acting. Politically
and if you do something overtly, political like you start calling,

(01:40:44):
up you, know people to contribute to The Democratic party
from your office phone in the, government you're violating The Hatch.
Act so the allegation That smith violated The Hatch, act
even to look into, it is complete.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
Garbage it comes from this.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
Senator he's A republican who wants to INVADE i think
most of the countries On, earth and he also wants to,
have you, know retaliate Against, smith Make smith's life, difficult
expose him to this. Investigation so At Senator cotton's, request
they're investigating him for The. Hatchack you might, wonder what
did he. Do did he get on the phone and

(01:41:20):
call people to contribute To democratic. Candidates, no what he
did was he supposedly timed the investigation Of trump in
a way that Would trump Hurt trump, politically as we all,
know that is. Garbage that's. Ridiculous trump did everything he
could to delay. Everything and you, Know smith tried to
set a schedule that made some. Sense he didn't try

(01:41:40):
in any improper way to, somehow.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
You, know set this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Schedule the schedules were all set by. Courts they were
all set after. Arguments trump always argued for delay of.
Everything smith agreed to some of the, delays and he
properly fought some of the delays because the delays were
way too, long case after case That trump. Wanted it's complete.
Garbage it's not going. Anywhere he didn't do anything wrong In,
smith and it's just pure retaliation for retaliation's. Sake it's

(01:42:07):
not even a criminal violation thing good as violating The Hatch.
Act but they could refer him to The department Of.
Justice and it's a nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
Burger but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Good we mentioned, it, well it's, good AND i think
what it is is it's clickbait and it's red meat
to the, base you know WHAT i. Mean there's sort
of a vengeful, part and the vengeance was promised during
the during the, campaign And trump with that headline even
though it's a nothing. BURGER i think gets credit for the.
Win you, know you know all this.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Stuff about, retaliation, retribution all of, this you, know getting
EVEN i, MEAN i know all of your audience, understands
BUT i just got to take thirty. Seconds What trump
got investigated. For, okay he gave that incendiary speech at The.
Ellipse then The january SIXTH broadi took place right. Afterwards

(01:42:57):
the speech was nothing but, inciting and he used the
one word. Peaceful everybody knows that by saying the word
peaceful once you cannot make an incendiary speech, Somehow, okay
as long as you, say you know it's only one
say the word.

Speaker 6 (01:43:11):
Peaceful and then he didn't tamp it down for over three.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
Hours the whole world watched it taking, place watched him
get closer and closer and then break, in then maraud,
around then take over the place and threaten, people including
to Hang Mike. Pence and that's what he got investigated.
For it was a, righteous righteous investigation mar A. Lago
they did everything to have him returned documents that he
had no right to take at. All he claimed they weren't,

(01:43:36):
there and then when they went in on AN fbi, search.
Weren't it turned out that those were. Lies it certainly
made sense to investigate whether he told people like his
own attorney to lie and say that they weren't, there
or if he misled his attorney so his attorney would
honestly say they weren't, there because he'd done this shell
game to convince his attorney and other people so that
they would misrepresent things unknowingly on his. Pal the bottom

(01:44:01):
line was he said this stuff wasn't, there and they
found it all. Over people remember the photos they founded the.
Bathroom they found it in the. Ballroom it was top
national security. Stuff it had those things on it that
said in red and gold that it was top national security.
Stuff we've never gotten to the bottom of what that stuff,
was but it was obviously really scary what they had,
there and a lot of people who were career employees.

Speaker 6 (01:44:21):
Thought that that was a totally righteous.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Case trump delayed both of them till fare Thee, well
got his appointed judges to decide the case down In,
florida got his appointed justices on The Supreme court to
delay the case like.

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
Crazy and on top of, that there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
Were two other, cases one In, manhattan which people think
wasn't that great a.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
Case he's brought a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Cases trump has already that a lot weaker than the
case that was brought against, him where by the, way
he was convicted of over thirty, felonies and that still
stands until he somehow wins on, appeal and he may
very well.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Not win on.

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
Appeal he is a convicted felon as we.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Speak so this idea that how did all this, stuff
all this stuff was completely made up out of whole
cloth on, him, know it was. Not people should remember,
that what's the basis for this. Retaliation what's the basis
for going after all these people out of whole, cloth
out of, nothing just because they went After trump based
on very, righteous backed up.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Information, oh he wants to be able to do what
he wants and never be held to.

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
Account and AS i, SAID i hope somebody remembers what
we just.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Said, yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH i, mean, well that's why
we say it so quickly as we round wrap. UP
us senator alleging the Two trump appointed judges are stalling contempt.
Proceedings That Sheldon, whitehouse of, course who talks about the
courts in such an educated, way he's raising the alarm
about an Appeals court handling of allegations That trump administration
officials violated a judge's order stopping flights Carrying venezuelan migrants

(01:45:42):
To El. Salvador we detailed the story at the, time
right the judges order Said, HEY i want those flights,
back and if they haven't taken off, YET i don't
want them to take. Off and they took off. Anyway
in A july thirtieth letter to THE Us Supreme, Court Justice,
roberts which had not this had not been previously, reported
had real and grave concerns about the conduct of Two

(01:46:04):
trump appointed judges on THE Us court Of appeals for
the D C. Circuit so He White house is saying
that these two D C circuit, Judges Gregory katsis And Naomi,
rao appear to be stalling contempt proceedings that were initiated
In april By justice OR i should, Say Judge. Boseburg

(01:46:26):
so they're playing fast and loose with the law in
ways that allow them just to, stall is what White
house is.

Speaker 6 (01:46:33):
Saying by the, Way katsas is no relation K A
T S A. S I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
Katz but he and this other judge were put on
there By. Trump they're absolute trump stallwarts and What Senator
whitehouse says is, very very. Troubling this is the turn
the flight around. Case this is the case From Judge.
Bosberg by the, way if anyone still has a copy
of The La times From, sunday if you haven't lined

(01:47:02):
your bird cage with, it and you have the actually
you can find it, online but it's also in the.
Paper there's a photograph Of Judge. Bosberg and because he's
the Chief judge and he wanted to emphasize the fact
that of his judge ship and his, office he had
the photo taken in the ceremonial court room of the.
Court and in the cerement ceremonial court room are the

(01:47:25):
paintings of the other chief, judges including he's in the
small little middle and the paintings behind him are, huge
and you can see the judge THAT i clerk, For
Chief Judge John. Penn SO i pick up My sunday
At La times and there is a huge picture although
in the background Of Chief Judge pen and if you
find it In sunday's paper it's. There he's on the

(01:47:45):
very lower left and that's him behind. Me people sometimes
may ask what are the things behind. You but That's
Chief Judge, pen the judge THAT i clerk for In,
washington D.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
C that's so good for those watching on. YouTube i
think that's the pick to Which David catch is, referring.

Speaker 6 (01:47:58):
Yep right behind.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Me, yeah go, Ahead so.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
If you can move over just a little, bit.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Can you move over a tiny, bit because That's Judge
penn right over.

Speaker 6 (01:48:08):
There on the left right with his head completely cut.

Speaker 4 (01:48:13):
Off he was, hanged but he was his portrait was,
hanged but he was not hanged in half, anyway trust
me that that's right. There and so in any, event
so What boseburg did remember was that he had the
flight that took, off and he wanted to emphasize that
he wanted to order that they turned the plane. Around
that if those people were being sent illegally against an,

(01:48:37):
order as it appeared that they, were or without it
being properly determined that they were, deportable that he wanted
to have all of that. Hurt so stop the. Planes right,
then a plane took off even after he ordered that
they be. Stopped this was the remarkable case where The
department Of justice said that with the way The department
Of justice said that he.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
Of trying to remember right, Now, well there was an oral.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
Order, yeah the mark they said there was an oral
order and therefore it didn't have the effect of a written,
order which is. Ridiculous and so that was about three hours.
Later but the backstory is really fascinating for what you
what you mentioned. Here this is the case where the
attorney his name Is. Ruvenni he's now a. Whistleblower, VENNI
i think is actually in the courtroom IF i have this,
right and he is supposed to say That Abrego garcia

(01:49:27):
is a. Terrorist he's being sent in the country because
he's a. Terrorist what he says to the, court because
he's got a duty to tell the, truth is that
we just made.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
A mistake and we sent him.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
Out there was a judge's order not to send him
out without further, hearing and we sent him out and
we just made a. Mistake he was, Fired well who fired?
Him who's behind all of that Contretemps bouvet Andmil beauve
who just.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
Got picked for the Third.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Circuit so that then the question was should that order
go into, effect what should happen regarding the Contempt and
there was an admitted straight of. State the administrative stay
was issued by those two trumpy judges on THE Dc
circuit who are over the chief judge of THE Dc District,
court which is What boseburg is and which my judge.

(01:50:12):
Was so now it goes up to THE Dc circuit
randomly goes to three, judges two of them put in
an administrative. Stay one of them was not appointed By. Trump,
says are you. Crazy let's decide this case right. Now
it looks Like boseburg was. Correct let's get to the
bottom of what. Happened the other two judges have kept
the stay in effect for months and months and. Months number,
one that's. Extraordinary why are they doing? It and then

(01:50:35):
the motive seems to be to help their Friend Emil
beauveat avoid the embarrassment of it going back for further
hearings to get to the bottom of what. Happened they
basically did like a pocket, veto which you're not allowed
to do a pocket veto when you're an appellate. Judge
and they let it sit there and sit there Until
Emil bouvet could get through fifty to forty nine and get.

(01:50:56):
Confirmed So Senator whitestone is a white house sat a
White house, says you.

Speaker 6 (01:51:01):
Basically you've got the fix. In you Two trump judges
on THE Dc circuit had the fix.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
In you kept this case bottled up here for no good,
reason kept that administrative state much more than it should have,
been so we couldn't get to the bottom of what
Did Emil beauvet tell that lawyer who's now a? Whistleblower
did he SAY f the? Judges was that the case
where he was talking ABOUT f the? Judges did he
MEAN F Judge? Bosberg when he orders you to do,
something you, know find a way not to do, it say,

(01:51:28):
oh with the oral order isn't good.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
Enough we're waiting for the written order and do whatever
the hell you want to in the. Intro so that's the.
Story and you, know if there weren't a scandal every
day with The trump, judiciary this would be a bigger.
Story but it's like there's one of these almost every,
day isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
THERE i, mean he was the subject of the whistleblower
report and of additional whistleblower reports and even additional testimony
that wasn't allowed into his. Confirmation so they are successfully
gaming the, system and thankfully people Like sheldon White house
are calling it. Out we can need to talk about.
It it does make, headlines as you, Say but, sadly you,

(01:52:04):
know the justice of The United states is being perverted
in such a way that so Many trump loyalists or
occupile use a meal bovage just because we've spoken of
him most recently as an. Example it's just not a good. Place.
David i've kept you over, time so grateful for your
time with. Us there's so much going. ON i feel

(01:52:24):
LIKE i need a hotline to you all the. Time
but we'll talk Next, thursday and we'll look for. YOU
i think On News nation The saturdays at four o'clock
that you go on, typically, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
Sometimes It's saturday for sometimes It's. Sunday For the interesting
thing About News nation is that they show a lot Of.
Trump Even fox doesn't Show trump as much as they.
Do but after they Show trump either saying something or
giving a little, speech then they want to have a counter.
Voice So i'm often the counter, voice and just What
Kamala harris, wanted more debates With.

Speaker 6 (01:52:55):
Trump so you'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
Me you'll see me debate right After trump's sometimes With,
trump sometimes with a reporter quoting What trump has, said
but they try to actually have a pretty fair and balanced.
Show it's too they show a lot Of, trump so
you cannot watch that or speed to. It but Then
i'm on about four or, five And i'm on with.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
You normally On. THURSDAY i, yes normally On thursday we do, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
David but this week It's, wednesday and tomorrow in your,
place we have the former pardon attorney for the federal,
government and So Liz lawyer is going to join us
and we'll talk a little bit about the pardons and
the pardon situation and all the. Rest and again those
times four o'clock On saturday or four or Five pacific.
Time so if you're clipping around or flipping around or floating, around.

Speaker 6 (01:53:39):
Katsadamis is going to predict what she's going to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
Say that those fifteen hundred b waters and criminals and
people awaiting trial at The capitol.

Speaker 6 (01:53:47):
Did not go through the normal part. Process it did
not go through her office in the proper.

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
Way did the guy Whose bobby gave the billion dollars
to get the sunny the pardon from his federal thraw
charges that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
They were? Not according To Hoyle Corruption party of two,
thousand your table is. Ready thank, You David. Kats everybody Bye.

Speaker 9 (01:54:14):
David let's want to Use Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Thompson Use Mark, Thompson.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
THOMPSON i love my time With David. Katz we are
way over time AND i still need to get. In,
uh it's the, planets, Stupid what are we going to?
Do Kim? ALBERT i really don't know what has happened.
Here i'm really not happy about. IT i blame, you all. Right,
well maybe the.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
Thing is going off the rails and fallen directly.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Apart once, AGAIN i don't.

Speaker 7 (01:54:47):
KNOW I.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
I need to give fluids to my, cat who is
hanging to life in such a dramatic. Way it's been
a very very difficult time here In Thompson land with
my Sweet, frenchie and we're trying to give her the
Care shet desperately. Needs BUT i will put it off

(01:55:10):
to get into the. Planets how long is it's the
planets to But?

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Albert eighteen minutes something around?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
There twenty minutes or, So so eighteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Time tomorrow to squeeze it in?

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
There you want to do it on a different. Day
is that what we're? Saying squeeze it in?

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Tomorrow if we have time if if those of you
the are loyal listeners who've been our, viewers who've been
here for a long. Time blinda used to be On.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
Thursdays oh that's, right very, good alberta a very strong.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Plus we have so many people to think THAT i
don't know how we're going to fit it all. IN
i think thank you are more important right. Now So Albert,
planet this is what we. Do if you're, new we
kind of live out loud on this.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Show this was a radio, show and when these are
our partners on, radio so we we kind of talk
about stuff here in you in the, open we pull
back the. Curtain SO i would, say Then, albert your
plan makes. Sense here's what we typically do with it's
the planets. Do but, anyway we drop the video separately

(01:56:08):
on the weekend so that doesn't is not. Affected and
will there be time? Tomorrow there should be, Right, Yeah, OKAY.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
I think, YEAH i think we have time all, Right
so we're going, tomorrow So i'll make. Time we'll make
time for it's the planet, tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
All. Right so with that, said we need to do
some other. Stuff Mark Thompson. Show we do need to
thank those who have in real time thrown us in
the live, chat superstickers and super. Chats thank. You that's
the YouTube. Universe of, Course patroon And PayPal is what
really sustains. Us but we so are grateful to those

(01:56:47):
who feel moved in the moment and jump. In Jim
slaton among. Them he is an og of this. SHOW
i may need to start a go Fund me account
so my relatives can come and visit me in The United.
States fifteen thousand dollars a. Person, yeah that's a reference
to the fact that they're going to jack up the
price of, visas at least they're talking about it in THE.

(01:57:08):
Us we, again everything is for sale now in THE,
us including. Visas Richard, delamater you win. Ding here's your.
Money that was on me being able to name a
grateful dead. Song will we have to go outside The

(01:57:28):
United states to get a credible healthcare check up or?
Vaccine Asks Vilma, Devlin and let me thank you for
the super chat and say that's a really provocative. QUESTION
i mean it may be for the vaccines that we,
do you may still be able to get them through
a private, doctor et. Cetera you, know this federal money
is about development And it's also about subsidizing. Vaccines, so for,

(01:57:52):
example the flu shot is subsidized by THE. Feds if
there were a bird flu, shot it would be subsidized
by THE, feds et. Cetera so there'll be no subsidy
like that. Anymore and the development for those THINGS i just,
mentioned that's going away, Also so, yeah you probably have
to look to another country to get. That Richard delamator
mark loving your groovy hippie style. Today thank, You. Richard

(01:58:13):
richard's become The he is the hunter S, thompson as
someone pointed out of this. Show, yeah he is super.
Groovy and this is my old school. LOOK i used
to wear this every day AND i just threw it on.
Today gone fishing with a ten dollar Super chat right.
On thank, you gone, fishing, big shout out to, You shout. Out,

(01:58:34):
luis the master of sarcasm on our, show Says i'm
waiting For trump to take credit for The dodgers Signing,
Otani sasaki And. Yamamoto. Yeah success has many, fathers but
no father quite as aggressive about taking credit As Donald.

(01:58:55):
Trump Richard delamator, says don't sugarcoat. It the end is.
Near oh thank. YOU i don't know about.

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
That who is having?

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
That, WELL a few people are having, it BUT i
don't know if we want to talk about a, Lot,
Chaplin fred with a twenty dollars super, chest Says, Hi
Mark Kim. Albert JUST, Fyi mexico is making semiconductors That
trump wants for. Cheap Thus trump has put a hold
on tariffs On mexico among other things That mexico. Exports
trump has got to. Go now THE us will sink. Deeper, well, Chaplain,

(01:59:28):
Fred you're you're not, wrong but sadly we are in
the throes of real dominance from a party and a
powerful authoritarian who is effectively taking control of THE. Us
Asley petris haven't Seen Asley petris's name in a. WHILE

(01:59:51):
i remember it BECAUSE i love that. Name Asber petris
twenty dollars supersticker, today big shout, Out thank you so,
Much thank you so so. MUCH i appreciated all of
you You. Heneyo they are. Now actually all tariffs are on,
Us mark are on. Us of course we pay the. Tariffs, yeah, yeah,

(02:00:11):
yeah they're all import taxes are always paid by, consumers of. Course,
yeah anybody who buys anything that has to do with
the Import you're gonna pay, It Richard delemator, again corporations
run this, world not. Governments, sadly that's. TRUE i mean
it's just corporate takeover of governments. Worldwide frenchie head for
the Tree Hugger party in The. Sky, yeah, sadly, friend my,

(02:00:34):
FRENCHIE i love her so. Much she did so well
at the vet, yesterday And i'd hoped for good, things but,
man it's a tough struggle with my. Darling frenchie south
Park is on, tonight Says tammy after the rod of
equity irrectiled as function pills aren't necessary for, months it's
truly matter Some, wow that's. TERRIFIC i didn't realize that

(02:00:58):
that Was. Anlafitian throws is a dang. Word, yeah maybe that's.
TRUE i didn't even consider that throws might be a dang.
WORD i love THE ed, reference first one of the
entire show that never HAD ed. Reference so, congratulations well.

(02:01:19):
DONE i Will, yeah kitty lives are short on one,
level but she's been with us for sixteen, years you,
know got her out of the shelter and she was
wonderful and is, wonderful and it's. Heartbreaking so NOW i

(02:01:39):
believe that's, everything is it? Not Albert albert with a
very strong return to the. Show there was a body
of thought That albert might be dogging a little bit
with A hawaii. Hangover you, know ACTUALLY i was impressed With.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
ALBERT i think that Ye kim might have threatened me
in the in the green.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
Room oh, yeah she did kind Of, Uh i've never
seen anything like. THAT i thought he did very very well.
TODAY i guess it's. TRUE i haven't needed viagras SINCE
i got The rod Of equity Of mercy Set. KENNEDY
i am excited for The After Party. Live who Isn't
that's kid? Show she does over on The After Party live.
Channel thank you everybody again Tomorrow Liz, zawyer who was

(02:02:29):
the former pardon attorney for the federal. Government she will
be here along with our normal cast of characters and
now the Great. Shadow I'm shadow Of stevens for The
Mark Johnson. Show bye, bye bye bye al but thank,
you welcome back, him welcome, back and until, Tomorrow Bye.

(02:02:53):
Byette nothing and the

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