UK Protestors Go Big With Image of Trump & Epstein on Windsor Castle, Arrests Made 9/17/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you all. Oh, I'm so delighted. It's it's the
kind of warm reception that I expect ahead of state
would get, and I'm so grateful for your recorded adulation.
Albert is here to dupergrade every I know. Albert's got
his fans for sure, and Kim is here. She's been

(00:21):
working assiduously, which is a ding word, to make sure
that everything is in place, and she too has her fans.
So first into the chat today was I believe CBD mark,
what time did you end up uploading this live link?

(00:41):
I kept checking and finally gave up. This is for
YouTube viewers and listeners. That's what that livelink refers to.
What I don't do it?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Kim? Does it?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
What time did it go up?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
With Kim a little after one am?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
The lefter one am, which is, you know, way before
the you know anyway. CBD was first in with that question,
and zero Sum said, I think it was round three am.
Is it your testimony, Kim that it was one am?
Because apparently there are people who.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'm greeting for you to make a decision, but then
you never pump.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I blame you. I get it. It's my fault, of course,
of course, rehmember, there's an issue. Kim always goes, you know, Mark,
what I was doing was I was working on this
thing for you.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, so that's why I blame you, right exactly. And
we've got a lot going on today. We will talk
about Donald Trump in the United Kingdom. He's been greeted
as many foreign dignitaries do get greeted in the United Kingdom,
and I'd say there was an extra layer of pomp

(01:49):
and circumstance added to the Trump arrival. There is no
crew on earth that does the pomp and circumstance the
way the Brets do it. There is no I mean,
look at the coronation, look at anything. Look at Buckingham Palace,
look at all that stuff, all these holdovers through the centuries.

(02:11):
I mean the uniforms and the traditions and the carriage
ride and the you know, it's all really so in
a moment, we'll speak to my favorite Britisher about what's
going on. But there is for those watching on YouTube,
there is Donald Trump and King Charles and they're addressing

(02:36):
one of the is that the palace guard. Kim, Yeah,
quite impressive.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
They might have a different name than Anthony Davis knows.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But yeah, there's a lot of names and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I know that their hats are I think they're called
bear skin hats.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Wow. If that's true, I will be awarding you points,
but they will be in aband's for the moment.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think I'm that negative negative points right now, So
that would be helpful.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
He's trying to get back to even he's getting design
ideas for the ballroom, says Amy, being of course, yes, right,
Windsor Castle projection is one of the things they did.
And before I bring on Anthony Davis, I'd love to
see a little wrap package on what happened with Donald

(03:29):
Trump and his visit to the United Kingdom. Go ahead, Albert.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
The President made his arrival just a short while ago,
landing on Marine one and then getting a horse and
carriage tour of the grounds at Windsor Castle. But even
though we're standing outside of the castle, we can't really
hear or see anything. It's all very protected because of
security reasons. So what's on the agenda for the rest
of today? While they're in a private lunch right now,
and then we're expecting in a short while there's going
to be a flyover. Actually between USF thirty five fighter

(03:56):
jets and the UK Red Arrows. That's kind of their
version of the Blue Angels that we have in the US.
We're also getting a few details about the gifts that
were exchanged between the royal family and President Trump and
First Lady Milania. We learned that King Charles actually gifted
President Trump the Union Jack, the flag that flew over

(04:16):
Buckingham Palate on the day of Trump's second inauguration. President
Trump also gifted King Charles a replica a President Eisenhower's sword.
So a few gifts exchanges happening here today. And then tonight,
of course, is that state banquet where about one hundred
and fifty guests will come here for a lavish dinner.
There will be speeches by President Trump and King Charles,

(04:39):
really strengthening the relationship between the two leaders, as this
is seen as the highest of diplomatic events that you
can have between two countries.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, it's a diplomatic event, but it really I don't know.
I'll talk to Anthony Davis about it, but it seems
as though, I mean, the King, the royalty has no
real power in Britain, so you have the power of
appearance you know, overs and these sorts of things are
associated with appearance, but I don't know what actual heavy
lifting is being done. But I'll say this really does

(05:08):
play into Donald Trump's wheelhouse because he loves theater. He
loves the performance, he loves the well, he loves the
pomp and circumstance of all sorts of looks. What he's
doing to the White House, he's you know, gilded it
out and he's building a huge ballroom. He he, he
loves this lavishness that is very much part of the
British tradition. So we'll talk to to Anthony about this.

(05:31):
But as to the real issues between Britain and America,
so far, and you could see in that reporter's package
there's nothing right private lunch, flyover, everything's being done very privately.
Then they're going to do this performative thing. Then they're
going to do that ornamental thing, right followed by a dinner.
So so far, that's what we learn. But I'd like to,

(05:56):
before I go any further, bring on someone who actually
know this world. He happens to be from the Mother
Country and he is my favorite Britisher. Please, if you
would on your feet for the great Anthony Davis from
the Midas Touch Network and be on. He's got a

(06:17):
new sub stack. I want to yes, I want to
talk to him about that. Anthony. Welcome, sir, welcome, welcome, welcome,
thank you. Well. You have to be so excited to
have our president in your in your country.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I am.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I'm very, very excited. Excited. The protests from I mean
the blessed the British people. They really know how to
put on a display of concern for an issue, don't they.
Because the protests are not just in Windsor The protests
are across the country and certainly in Westminster in London,

(06:51):
around five thousand people at Parliament Square. The most creative
banners that I've ever seen. Really wonderful to see these signs.
Favorite one was polite notice Trump, please go home.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
So British, so brittle, wonderfully British. But I did see
if you can scramble some of this stuff that he's on.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Something that you said a moment ago where you were
describing what Trump's done to the interior of the White
House and compared it to the said that there was
a kind of equivalence to the kind of the British
way nothing could be further from the truth. Oh really, well,
to take a palace and a tradition with a palace
that has been around since the you know, the fourteenth

(07:33):
fifteenth century that is truly gilded, versus what Trump has done,
which is go to home depot and take a few
of these kind of stick on freezes that he's sprayed
in gold and put them in the wrong places, like
above the fireplace together and then in random places around
the room like that, is that there is no equivalence

(07:53):
to to to British royal palaces, which have you know,
had their their great interiors, they've been procured and they've
you know, they are really very special and very beautiful.
But what you did say that is entirely correct is
that the royal the whole role thing these days is
ceremonial and so unfortunately Trump is going to show up

(08:15):
and think, yeah, yeah, I could get used to this,
that I could get used to being in a golden carriage,
and I could get used to having all these guards
you know, in the in their bear skins, as Kim
quite rightly said. But the reality is is that the
king does not have power. Really, I mean, yes, he
could dissolve Parliament, which has been done I guess over

(08:36):
the years when things have gone a little crazy. But
the reality is it's a ceremonial role. There's so much protocol.
English people, British people, they love the royal family because
they know that they don't have any power anymore and
that we really are a social democracy. And I don't
think that Trump quite realizes that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Even as this country was birth from this relationationship with
Britain and the revolution, you know, individuated from Britain in
this violent way, really Britain has been our great partner
through the decades, you know. And I'm wondering if there's
anything you see in the tea leaves that would suggest

(09:17):
that that does continue, or that there's a an effort
on the part of the British to see it continue.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Well, the British they always talk about the special relationship.
And now this is a phrase that was coined. I
think Churchill may have said it first briefly in like
a in a speech, you know, during the during the war,
just after the war, but it was actually Ronald Reagan
and Margaret Thatcher that kind of solidified that phrase, the

(09:44):
special relationship. Now, so British people talk about it all
the time. The British media talk about it, and I
remember talking when I first kind of came to the
US and started talking to Americans about it. They didn't
know what I was talking about. They're like, what do
you mean a special relationship? Like what that?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Obviously it's born in the US coming to aid the
Allied forces during the Second World War. That solidified the
special relationship, but come on, you know, here we are,
like nearly seventy years later, I just don't know that
the special relationship really exists.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's like a it's like a desperate relationship to do
some trade because after Brexit, nobody wants to do business
with the UK. So that is the reason why Keir
Starmer had to present this envelope in the Oval Office
to Donald Trump and be like, well, you know, this
was his kind of Trump card, if you'd pardon the expression.
Trump was super excited about this, and he's now making

(10:38):
up all this stuff about it's being it's historic because
it's a second state visit, which has never happened before,
and which is true. But what isn't true is he
says that it's the first time it's ever been held
at Windsor Castle, which is a complete lie, complete lie.
So you know, he just doesn't he just doesn't really
understand how it works. He's been played. But unfortunately Britain

(11:01):
is having to grovel to this dictator because they cut
off their supply with Europe and by voting for Brexit
and leaving that twenty eight member state of you know,
free trade and free movement, they're kind of stuck between
the devil and the deep blue sea. And the British
economy has not recovered from the pandemic and has not

(11:24):
recovered from Brexit, and so they are desperate for anything.
So I hear that Trump has kind of announced or
the UK has announced this tech deal with the US.
But the problem with Trump is you can't believe anything
that he says about this stuff. So many of these
announcements turn out to not be entirely true. And so

(11:48):
that's my worry is that, you know, he feels like
there needs to be some kind of transactional announcement to
make his trip worthwhile, to cover the cost of it,
you know, a huge expense to the inter the American
taxpayer and to Theritish taxpayer. Obviously, but really to be
platforming someone who is kidnapping people off the streets and

(12:09):
sending the National Guard and marines into cities and you know,
dropping missiles on Venezuelan boats without any due process. I
do honestly think that the British government and certainly the
King know that this is a diplomatic exercise, and you

(12:29):
know it really is is not what Trump thinks.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It is, although you make a good case that's born
of sort of a desperation that the Brits are hurting
right now economically and need some kind of deal in place,
and certainly don't need a body blow of tariffs from
the Americans.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
This is the problem, and this is why, you know,
you don't fall out with your allies. This is why
it's important to maintain free trade, because it serves other purposes.
It's not just about, oh, well, they didn't buy as
much from us as we brought from them, so therefore
they're ripping us off. That's not what free trade is.
Their economy is a quarter of the size of yours.

(13:07):
Of course they can't buy the equivalent. The fact that
the President doesn't understand the fundamental basics of economics, led
alone international trade is the problem. And so and remember
kir Starmer invited Trump before all of this craziness really
kicked off. You know, it was a few months ago
that the envelope was presented, and that was before all

(13:29):
the Epstein stuff, and you know, it's a situation now.
And so that's why this is really rather embarrassing that
this is happening at all.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
You mentioned the Epstein stuff and we I think we
had a still image of that huge projection on the
side of Windsor Castle, which was done by you know,
people who were organized and trolling Trump. It wasn't the
only thing they did. I think they had a big
banner that they rolled out that was also Trump and Epstein.
It's interesting that the British people, at least some of them,

(14:02):
have grabbed this Epstein narrative because the Epstein narrative, to
be fair, did extend beyond the shores of America. I mean,
this was an international human trafficking ring that Epstein was behind.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
The former Queen's grandson, sorry son fell to this, fell
on his sword, as it were, and lost his royal
title and doesn't have the privileges of the royal family
and basically got ostracized from the Royal family because of it,
because they had to. And Prince Andrew, I mean, you know,
that interview that he gave with the BBC, where he

(14:36):
basically perjured himself about six times, is an example of
why it's important not to cross the streams like this.
And in fact, just three days ago, the ambassador, the
British ambassador to the United States was forced to resign
or got fired, I'm not sure which came first, because
of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. This is the problem.

(14:58):
You know, these people are just you know, you do
not mix and if you ever meet anybody who is
kind of insanely wealthy like Jeffrey Epstein, and you're not
sure why stay away from these people? You know, these
are these are not good people. Don't curry favor with
the with the rich. And I think that, you know,
British people certainly know that. And so now the US

(15:20):
ambassador is gone. That projection was actually out of a
hotel window on the opposite side. I think they'd rented
a hotel to do that. They've arrested four people in
this and obviously there's a lot of annoyance from the
British people about free speech being curtailed, because you know,
arguably this is free speech. They just when they when
they wrote the free speech laws, they didn't take into

(15:42):
account that we would have such powerful projectors that could do.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right for those who are just listening and not actually
watching on YouTube. I mean the projection is immense. It's
Jeffrey Epstein and Trump standing side by side. Yeah, but
the images broadcast there, I mean it takes up the
entire side that's right of the Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
I mean it's been literally been They've mapped the side
of the castle to kind of wrap it around. I mean,
this is very clever. But you know, there's been a
huge number of arrests, nearly a thousand arrests for people
protesting the war in Gaza and not being supportive of
Palestinians in England.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. In in fact, I was going to ask you about
the over the weekend protests. I saw the bridge clotted
with protesters there, and I saw much of London. They'd
estimated over one hundred thousand protesters. What was that about.
I mean that seemed to be about things other than Trump.
It was about immigrants, I think, and other issues.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Well, the rise of the far right extends obviously way
beyond the borders of the US right across Europe and England.
The kind of character that leads the charge on the
far right is Nigel Farrage, who claims to be a
friend of Donald Trump. But this protest you're describing was
so far right that even Nigel Farage is trying to

(17:00):
distance himself from Tommy Robinson, who's the young British guy
who you know, is a trouble maker who is on
the extreme far right, you know, and is a British
nationalist and you know, hates anybody of color or any
foreigners that they don't want in the UK. So it's
just history repeating itself, Mark, because you know, we had

(17:21):
all of this a decade ago with Brexit, where they
were saying, oh, it's all the European migrants coming in
taking our jobs and that's the reason why we're poor.
So they voted to leave the European Union. You know,
the Preme Miniter at the time called the bluff of
the British people, thinking they'll never vote to leave the EU,
and they did. So there's huge egg on their face.
The economy takes a hit, and guess what, there's still

(17:42):
no jobs. It wasn't because the European Union people were
taking jobs. It was because there weren't enough jobs, or
well paying jobs in the first place for regular British
people to do so. Now ten years later, people have
selective amnesia and they're facing another rise of the far
right where they're saying, well, now we're just blaming all
the other immigrants that can legally come to the UK

(18:04):
I either or you know, seeking asylum via small boats
across the English Channel from France and beyond. And so
this is just exactly the same thing happening again. So
what are they going to do. They're just going to
turn away all the boats. They're going to reduce the
number of migrants, and guess what, There'll still not be
enough jobs for British people that are well paid. This

(18:25):
is a problem in most developed nations. It's certainly going
to be a problem here in the US. All of
these announcements from Trump about these so called investments, they
are not real jobs for real people. These are investments
in AI, in data centers, in things that you know,
regular working people cannot do. They cannot go and work
in a data center as vast as it is. Yes,

(18:48):
there'll be a few construction jobs, but you know, six
months later, or probably even three months for a data center,
that job is done. So I'm very concerned that there
is a delay on the fall of the American economy.
There is certainly no delay in the UK. The economy
is really struggling. You wouldn't know it to walk in London.

(19:08):
I mean, London is bustling and people are sitting outside
restaurants and cafes. But again, you know, these are invariably
rich white people, and it is still rich white people
that tend to dominate, and even in the media, to
the point that it's very hard to get a proper
editorial or an understanding of how the world is changing

(19:30):
because the people who write these stories are rarely affected
by them.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, you've said so much. One of the things you've mentioned,
you know, kind of the British amnesia. I thought there
was sort of an American version of that amnesia, as
people forgot about what the first term chaos associated with
Trump was all about and they glossed it over. And
now as he's risen in the second term, it's far
different and far more serious. But although it was quite

(19:57):
serious the first time, but the The other thing you
touch on is sort of the British pushback, and so
some of these issues that we share, I mean, the
pushback against immigrants and the pushback against immigrants in this
country as well. And I'm just wondering how you see
this gaming out. I mean, it sounds to me like
both economies then will suffer enormously ours from both tariffs

(20:20):
and a loss of labor. We've just seen that huge
bust in Georgia where they've busted all these South Korean workers.
Now South Korea is actually suing for human rights abuses
that have been associated with that. I'm just wondering how
this all comes around. It seems as though it's a
fairly bleak future in the short to medium term.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
The pendulum is not going to swing back anytime soon.
And this is the problem with extremist policies. You know,
things are supposed to be done gently. The deconstruction of USAID,
if it was going to be done officially, should have
taken five to ten years of winding it down in
a way that doesn't cause harm and doesn't displace people

(21:00):
or cause deaths. As it is, they shut it down
in seven days, and it's estimated that upwards of eighteen
million people could die as a result of the closure
of USAID. So we have to be very realistic about
what is what is going on the world stage, not

(21:20):
just in the US, because I do believe that, you know,
these things are all cyclical and they're happening everywhere, and unfortunately,
you know, we're just there's a little bit of time
shifting involved, but we are all experiencing the same thing,
and that is that manufacturing is shifting to AI and automation,
and our skill set we're not being trained for that.

(21:41):
And obviously people are living longer, and people are older,
and the money supply isn't there, and the cost of
living is rising, and so there is going to you know,
this has been going on for years, but it's at
the point now where people are not able to pay
their bills. And you've never heard Trump refer to the poor.
You've never heard Trump talk about people who can you know,
how to help them for their energy bills. He just

(22:01):
lies that gas prices are one ninety nine when everybody
knows they're not. So, you know, there is this false economy,
this fake economy in the US where Trump is talking
about how great. Everything is in reality, inflation is rising,
there are fewer jobs, as we know from the job's numbers.
So his solution to that was to fire the statisticians
and take control of the supply of information. The reason

(22:23):
this is so dangerous is because we need the facts
in order other for companies to invest in the US.
And you know, I can't imagine because the UK still
has a functioning government and a little more common sense,
there hasn't been this kind of far right takeover of
the US government yet, saying that Nigel Farages party is

(22:44):
polling far higher than the Labor Party and even the
Conservative Party right now. So my fear is, in answer
to your question that with Elon Musk's money, because Musk
was very much behind that protest that you were talking
about that took place at the weekend, with Musk's money
and Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage, you could find the

(23:06):
UK falls to this far right nationalist movement as well.
And when I say it's cyclical, I think that you know,
the UK hasn't quite got to it yet, and the
US is going through it right now, and other countries,
like you know, Hungry, they're a little further ahead. So
I don't know. I fear that it's not going to

(23:28):
get better. And I hate to be the you know,
the bearer of bad news. But let's be realistic here.
The system with which we have to vote out that
these people is not functioning. The Democratic Party has failed
to step up. Only really Gavin Newsome is is, you know,

(23:49):
making enough noise, but even he is struggling because he's
kind of tired with the slimy brush. So I just
don't know that there is a way out of this.
I really Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's interesting because I think also in today's political landscape
and media landscape, it is personality driven. So when you
talk about Gavin Newsom, you or you mentioned anybody else,
I mean Joshapiro, an emerging figure like Governor Pritzker in Illinois.
These are all people who I think could rally some support.
But as you also allude to, I think people, particularly Democrats,

(24:24):
are kind of looking for the perfect date. You know,
they just well, he had that dinner at the French laundry,
and you know he's kind of slick looking, kind of handsome,
he speaks really well, maybe too well. This is the
stuff of the Democrats. We're all looking to you know,
the old line Democrats of Republicans fall in line, Democrats

(24:46):
fall in love, right, I mean that is to say,
we're looking for the love affair, whereas the Republicans just
fall in line. They march.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
And it would be foolish of us to ignore the
fact that the Republicans have been brilliant at manufacturing the crisis,
this fake crisis. They have brought this upon themselves. They
want the dollar to collapse, they obviously want the economy
to crash. This is all part of it. And there's

(25:13):
no way that you know, Trump could be that stupid
or even allowed to put all these eggs into the
tariff basket knowing that it's actually the American people that
are paying for tariffs. So, you know, I am genuinely
really worried about the US economy because I don't know
what it looks like. You know, the way that when
I first came to the US and I saw how

(25:34):
much homeless people were demonized, It's not something I'd ever
experienced before. There's going to be a whole lot more
homeless people, and so what do you do with that?
Because in Washington, d C. They just swept them all away,
just basically remove them.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
They may criminalize it on some level. They may there
are a number of strategies, none of them good. Yeah,
it's it's And I also say, last thing I would
say is that the disinformation which you've alluded to with
the gas prices. We've talked about it here where Donald
Trump says these tariffs have brought in trillions and trillions
of dollars and then he said trillions with a t

(26:12):
to the American economy. It's the most absurd statement ever.
I mean, really, I mean, in a universe of absurd statements,
that one just doesn't hold water at all.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
And three hundred million people with drug addicts the other
day because of fentanyl. I mean, when are people are
going to wake up to the fact that he just
makes numbers up. And he made those numbers up for
the for the tariff percentages too. When he was asked,
how do you get to this calculation, He's like, it's
just a hunch. That's how I feel the way they've
treated us, and so I you know, and he just

(26:44):
like basically calls out number. You know, he is so
completely unwell, and yet the whole world is having to
cow to him.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, I mean because he's in charge of Yeah, he's
in charge of the most powerful country on earth.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
And this is why you have to be very careful
about what you wish for. And it's like you put
our FK junior in charge of health, he's nuts. So
you can have as many hearings as you want. It's
not going to change anything. He's nuts. You put Cash
Buttael in charge of the FBI, you can have as
many hearings as you like. It's not going to change anything.
He's nuts. We are relying on people to suddenly wake

(27:24):
up and become rational when they've spent their whole lives
being insane. And so that is my concern. In every
major department, from the economy through to education, the people
leading these departments are not fit for purpose. They are
either radicalized or they are insane, and you cannot negotiate

(27:45):
with these people. So from that perspective, it seems like
a ploy to crash and burn the United States, to
deconstruct the administrative state, but also to make the poor
so much poorer. I can only think of it as
a kind of giant genocide. You know, let's just kill
all the kill all the poor people, and only the
very wealthiest will survive.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Tell me about your substack. And I just turned a
substack that I'm excited about.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I'm on substack. It's a whole new thing. I mean,
actually started my substack on Thanksgiving last year, so it's
coming on for a year old now and I only
just realized you can post videos to it. So a
lot of my opinion pieces you can find on my substack,
which is the Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
The Anthony Davis on substack. Go there. And it is
a different vibe too, just even the even the setting
is different. You know, I'm Cotry.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Garden, yes with birds song. Well, I wanted to because
you know, my usual position is sitting you know, in
a kind of very neutral news studios, very AUSTEREI yeah, yeah,
but I wanted to because I know that everyone is
hurting right now and I am too, you know, I'm
really feeling it, and I just I mean, I've spoken
to three people this morning about like, what are we
going to do? What are we going to do? Everyone

(29:00):
is having this conversation. Friends of mine who have accessed
you know, Americans who have got like Italian heritage, They're
getting in touch with their ancestry in order to get
passports so they can get out. And this is the tragedy.
This is the tragedy that people are giving up on
the US. Tourism is down as significantly. Why would you

(29:23):
want to come right now if there is the fear
that you might get thrown in jail because you've got
an anti Trump meme on your phone.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Well, I mean there's a brain drain too here. I
mean this used to be the place where scientists from
all around the world, medical professionals from all around the
world would come and flourish. I mean, we encourage that
kind of thing, and now you have them leaving the
country in droves because they're worried about what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's very problematic. And obviously I love the US and
I am desperate for it to be successful and for
people to prosper. But I think that you know, this,
what we're experiencing right now has been in the planning
for decades. It's no surprise. And you know, it's like
when Trump talks about Roe, you know they try to

(30:06):
overturn it for years. No one could do it. I
got it done. That's how he sees his role is
to come in and do all the stuff that the
far right have been and the Christian nationalists have been
trying to do for years, and it's all coming together.
They are playing this very very well, and the assassination,
as tragic as it is, of Charlie Kirk, is only

(30:29):
going to solidify that position as they use that as
an excuse to militarize so many of the sanctuary and
democratic cities. So you know, be careful for you know
what's around the corner. I'm very worried about what's around
the corner. So you know, all we can do is

(30:49):
try and to share the most accurate information and offer
people a little bit of support. And that's why my
sub stack I'm standing in an English country garden with
bird song, is because I felt like we needed a
safe space where we could feel, you know, like hunger, tree,
get a sense of go back to nature. What else

(31:10):
do you do in these times?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Sure, sure you look for those things that give you
some comfort. Uh, check out the substack, be part of it.
Anthony Davis. I just think you're a treasure and I
so appreciate you coming through our world occasionally and we
will support your substack endeavor and more. Thanks so much,
Anthony Davis, my favorite Britisher who danes to come here

(31:36):
when the batbeam goes up. I thank you, sir, thank
you Anthony Davis, every buddy, Bravo. Yes, it's inspirational. Listen,
I know that's something else they do. The music so wonderful.
All right, bravo. Albert, you've done a nice job. Mark Thompson,

(31:59):
show what you have next for me? Albert, you've got
a I think we've got another distinguished guest. I ask you,
how I about that? You should do?

Speaker 6 (32:06):
You?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Please hit the thumbs up. We have Rothman in the
in the wings, I know, do we not? Let me
get to a couple of comments before we get to
Professor John Rothman. It took one hundred and fifty some
odd years for the US and UK to be friends.
Why invite the emperor and endanger their whole friendship? Says

(32:27):
to Lady Beatrice. I see, yeah, and what else? Anthony
Davis is well versed in his history and makes a
great guest. I agree completely. I love my Anthony Davis. Cheers.
Anthony says right, yes, cheers indeed, Cherry as someone else said, yeah,
he's he's terrific. To support his substack. I also want

(32:49):
to mention later in the show, We've got it's the
planet Stupid. We do that on Wednesdays. I look at
the environment. I think Belinda is on the road and
has left to us a video which should be cool.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, so Belinda remote.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, in fact, I've seen the video and it's it
is really innovative. There's a I don't want to say
too much, but there's an innovation that will really astound you.
And it's taking place in a place that will also
surprise you. I think. So, you know I was talking

(33:23):
about and I know we get to John Rothman just
a minute, but I loved one thing and she's coming
on the show. I love this columnist who wrote something
on the American economy and I'll just read you the
first little bit of it because I just loved it
so much. And as I say, she's coming on the show,
not today, but soon. And this is in relation to

(33:48):
the fact that the American economy is wobbly at best.
She says, one way to think of the economy right
now is like a big party on a roof deck
your buddy Kyle built in college with little more than
a hammer and a YouTube tutorial. It looks fine, and
it's been holding up shockingly well for the past five years.
But now the party is getting crowded, the DJ is

(34:09):
going wild, the keg is tapped, and suddenly you zoom
in on the pillars and see they are basically just
two posts holding this thing up.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
In our economy, those posts are called in vidia and
rich people. The latter could also be labeled consumer spending,
but that label would miss the reality of how the
money is slashing around on the economy. Even as inflation
ticks higher and the labor market starts to buckle. Americans
are fulfilling their god given role of shelling out on stuff,

(34:41):
come hell or high water. And on Tuesday, the Commerce
Department reported that retail sales in the US were far
stronger than the estimate. But there is a catch, she says.
While stimulus checks in a pause on student loan payments
help power the pandemic error covery in twenty twenty and
twenty twenty one, we're in a very different situation now.

(35:05):
Loan repayments came back in May, stimulus checks are long gone,
the job market is far less robust, and credit delinquencies
are rising. When economists talk about quote consumer spending going up.
It's important to note that they're talking in the aggregate,
which is a ding word, and right now rich people

(35:28):
are having such a good time they are skewing the data.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
She says.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
The top ten percent of wealthy people accounted for half
of total spending in the second quarter. Think about that,
just ten percent of the American consumer base is buying
so much stuff that it accounted for half of all
the spending in the economy. That's a record. In the
boom and bubble of the nineteen nineties, high income Americans

(35:55):
accounted for about a third of overall spending. Meanwhile, the
middle and lower income tiers are leaning on credit cards
to keep up with the cost of living. The national
average credit score drop by two points this year. That's
the steepest drop since two thousand and nine. That was
the peak of the Great Recession. Right after nine, everybody

(36:16):
was on credit. This is what economists call a K
shaped economy, which is a handy visual que reflecting the
upward trajectory of the upper class versus the downward trajectory
of everyone else. That concentration and consumer spending is bad
for obvious reasons, like fundamentally morally, it's an absurd wealth gap,

(36:36):
and practically it leads the engine of US growth vulnerable
to a collapse in paper wealth, which incidentally is the
basis of our second rickety party deck pillar. She says, Yes,
the stock market is clocking record highs, but it's also
got a concentration problem. The so called Magnificent seven, which
is a handful of tech companies worth trillions of dollars apiece,

(37:00):
now make up more than thirty percent of the value
of the S and P five hundred in video alone
makes up about eight percent of that index. Absent those juggernauts,
the US stock market is more or less flat for
the year.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Who wrote that.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
This is a brilliant economist who writes for CNN Economy.
Her name is Alison Morrow, and she puts out a
newsletter that I subscribe to, and I just love the
opening paragraph so much, and then she does that great
reducto on everything. You know. She explains things so well.
So she will be a guest on an upcoming show,
but I wanted to share that with you.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
So, speaking of the economy, I will tell you the
Federal Reserve is lowering interest rates. They cut rates by
a quarter percentage point today. So I guess all Trump's
pressure finally paid off.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean there's even as the court
said that Trump couldn't fire Lisa Hook from the Fed Governor,
the rate drop, he gets the one he wants.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I am excited about our guest. He's our Wednesday visitor,
the professor. He's an author, he's a lecturer, he's a historian.
He's our former colleague from kg O Radio. He's John
or Rothman. Yeah, morning, good morning, sir, your previous guest.
I just want you to know I loved it.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Brilliant analysis, absolutely solid.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, he's so so very good. Well this is the
double play combination because you're also very good. So uh.
This is a place in America that has been informed
by a violent act politically, and the aftermath of Charlie
Kirk's murder has had a ripple effect. I think it's
consolidated people in part on the right. They point to

(38:57):
the left, as you know, sort of this murderous agitating crew,
when the reality is, of course that most of the
violent political acts come from the right. But nonetheless, people
have their own narrative. They're laying it over the Charlie
Kirk murder. As I say, and I'm wondering if you
can give us your thought and snapshot of this moment.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
This is an internal wound which we suffer from in
the United States. We inflict this on ourself, the violence
that we have seen.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I asked a crowd the other day that I addressed
how many had ever heard of Charlie Kirk, and very
few had ever heard of him. He has become an
American marker, and he will have on Sunday a state celebration,
if you will, sixty thousand people in a stadium with
the President of the United States present to eulogize him.

(39:53):
What was the importance of Charlie Kirk several fold. First,
the fact that he was able to to reach young
people on the campus as an organizer. Hey wait wait,
who was the last organizer we knew? Who did it so? Well,
that's a Barack Obama. He was condemned for being an organizer.
Charlie Kirk is exalted for being an organizer. But the

(40:17):
most significant thing that Charlie Kirk did was to give
us jd vance. And make no mistake, it was Charlie Kirk,
who embraced JD. Vance, who introduced Donald Trump Junior and
Eric Trump to the whole process. And although Charlie Kirk
is gone, his legacy will live on. And the eulogies

(40:38):
were incredible. Oh one other thing, because you and I
are both doing a podcast now, so to speak. Who
sat in on Charlie Kirk's podcast last week? None of
them the Vice President of the United States. And where
was it broadcast from the White House? So I point
this out because there are real implicationations. One thing that

(41:01):
bothers me profoundly is the idea that the broad brush
is being used to paint liberals in America is the
cause of our misfortune. The fact that the President of
the United States repeats that should disturb every single one
of us. So that's my observation on ju.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, he calls it the radical left. He doesn't just
say liberals. I mean, it's just democrats. Democrats radical worried.
It should be worried. They're stepping up security at Democratic
Party events. By the way, if they say Democrat Party
one more.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Time, I might lose my hair. I mean, it is
just incredible, the distortions.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Anyway, go ahead, Well, I've seen that actually, that reference
and that way in which they kind of try to
own the moment with democrat I've seen it in more
and more places. It's kind of become a little way
in which you can own the Libs while you're talking
about I've seen it in congressional testimony.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
And now let me just you heard by the way
Attorney General Bondi and Speaker Johnson go at it. And
the question was free speech or hate speech? And the
simple truth is you and I are able to make
a living if you will because of free speech. None
of us support hate speech. But the idea that all

(42:25):
conservatives speak hate speech is wrong. And you'll note that
there was such criticism from the right that Pam Bondi
had to revise her remarks and say, well, of course
I believe in free speech. I just wanted to point
that out so people understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
No, you're you're right to point it out. And I
think that there was some blowback even on the right
to some of what was pointed out and said by
by Bondi. But you mentioned Bondi and the Justice Department
and Fatel of course now on Capitol Hill in shouting
matches with various Democratic sen Yeah, I mean this, and

(43:03):
you probably are going to disagree with me on this,
but this is something of a forum that Patel does
very well with. I mean, I've always felt as though
these people that Trump has hired, he's hired them because
they do well on television. He's hired to headshet.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Because he doesn't how many Fox newspeople. And by the way,
Patel was also a radio talk show host. Just what
you and I did?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Do you have the Patel stuff, Albert? Did I send
you some of that? I think I did. But I
I feel as though these these shoutdowns that Patel gets into,
he'll he'll win them. But but I want to be clear,
he will win the he knows how to hug the
microphone and out shout anybody on that panel. And so
Adam Schiff, who is a you know, a brilliant jurist.

(43:49):
You know, he's a lawyer, he's a he's got a
background of great, uh learned intellect. He in this media
landscape that just values who can shout down the other
guy best. I think Patel will always win. I thought
for his try, I gave him a lot of credit.

(44:10):
I think Jamie Raskin actually had a good little ramp
up to Patel. Maybe that's what I sent to Cory Booker,
Corey Booker on my part company with you on that.
But let's see Raskin for a moment. Let's be a
couple of minutes. Let's take a look.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
Thank you very much, mister Chairman, and welcome Director Bettel.
You and I have not had the opportunity to meet,
and alast you fail to respond to the eight oversight
letters I've sent you over the last seven months. So
we do have a lot of questions piling up for you,
but I want to start with the word of praise.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
The first FBI director was jay eebger Hoover, who.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
Steadfastly refused to hire women, African Americans and other minorities
as agents. And although he was a closet and homosexual
who lived in domestic partnership for decades with Clyde Tolsen,
he also participated in anti gay crusades. He aggressively promoted
what we would today call white Christian nationalism, and he
would undoubtedly be turning over in his grave to see

(45:11):
as one of his successors a first generation Indian American
and a proud Hindu. So I congratulate you on being
a breakthrough in this sense and being a beneficiary of
the civil rights movement that opened up the FBI and
the federal workforce to lots of people who never would
have been hired in its first decades. Alas you shared
j Aerger Hoover's dangerous obsession with blind loyalty over professionalism

(45:35):
and effective public policy. For Hoover, it was blind loyalty
to him and keeping his secrets. For you, its blind
loyalty to Donald Trump and keeping his secrets. During your confirmation,
it was widely noted on all sides that your primary
qualification was your unwavering loyalty to Trump. Unlike other directors,
you had no work experience at the FBI, but you

(45:56):
had made over one thousand media and political appearances in
support of Trump's campaign. Your Senate confirmation vote was fifty
one to forty nine, the closest in history. With your
opponent's warning you were not qualified and had no interest
in actually developing the qualifications for the job, I hoped
that they were wrong, alas they were not.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
While most other.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
New FBI directors drew on their experience as FBI agents,
you didn't have that, but you did write a picture
book trilogy for children ages five and up based on
your experience clashing with President Trump's political enemies. In your book,
you describe your literary alter ego, Cash the Knight, as

(46:40):
a wacky, easily bored wizard carrying out King Donald's vengeance
by driving his enemies out of the Kingdom.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
In the books, King Donald.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Is besieged by the evil Hillary Queen Town, but saved
in the end by Cash. Then Ketch goes on to
catch mules who are stealing the twenty twenty election for
the Great King Donald from Sleepy Joe. And then in
the third book, Cash takes down the Dragon of the Jlapinos,
nicknamed the doj Your supporters had hoped that you would

(47:10):
graduate from imagining yourself a romantic fairytale night to actually
running America's premier federal law enforcement agency. Alas, just as
we've learned how dangerous it is to put a science
denying anti vaxer in charge of our public health, we've
learned how danger it is to name as director of
the FBI a man who thinks of himself as a

(47:31):
fairytale knight who keeps a fire breathing dragon named doj
at home to forcibly drive villains out of the kingdom.
When Charlie Kirk was assassinated while his killer was still
on the loose, you decided you didn't need to be
at FBI headquarters in Washington to work with your team
while the chaotic manhunt unfolded. You spent your evening dining

(47:53):
in a swanky midtown Manhattan restaurant and tweeting out false
information that the subject of the shooting it was in custody,
a statement you had to retract one hour later. Your
performance was so disturbing that even the Megabase was alarmed.
Culture warrior Christopher Ruffo, who just a few months ago

(48:14):
sat in your chair as a Republican witness, observed that
you performed terribly, and he called for your ulster. FBI
might be able to survive your delusions of grandeur and
the explosively volatile temper that was on display yesterday in
the Senate, But the intractable problem is that you are
running the FBI not as a law enforcement agency charged

(48:34):
with keeping the American people safe, but as a political
enforcement agency working directly for the president's vengeance campaign. Seven
months in It's impossible to overstate the destruction, chaos, and
demoralization you've brought to the FBI and its workforce, and
the resulting danger your actions have caused to our country.
You've been systematically purging the FBI of its most experienced

(48:58):
and qualified agents, division leaders, and experts in counter terror, counterintelligence,
and cybersecurity, precisely the people who have the expertise you
lack in which the FBI in the country need. They've
been expelled from the ranks of the Bureau simply because
they did their duty investigating crimes, including those committed by

(49:19):
the mob that attacked the Capitol on January sixth, twenty
twenty one and beat the hell out of more than
one hundred and forty police officers, or simply because you
suspected them of being insufficiently loyal to Donald Trump. You
illegally sacked Brian Driscoll, the former acting director of the
Bureau and a decorated counter terrorism expert who worked at

(49:39):
the FBI for nearly twenty years. According to Driscoll, Driscoll
you told him your own job quote depended on the
removal of the agents who worked on the cases against
the president, regardless of whether the agents chose to work
on those cases or not. You added quote, the FBI
tried to put the president in jail, and he hasn't
forgotten it. Forced out the leader of the Salt Lake

(50:01):
City Field Office met to have said just weeks before
Charlie Kirk's assassination, depriving the FBI I of an experienced
counter terrorism expert described by her colleagues as absolutely the
best and legendary. She would have led the FBI's manhunt
had she not been fired. When Trump decided that rounding
up immigrants with no criminal records was more important than

(50:24):
preventing crimes like human trafficking of women and girls, drug dealing, terrorism, fraud,
you ordered the twenty five largest field offices to divert
thousands of agents away from chasing down violent criminals, sex traffickers, fraudsters,
and scammers to carry out this immigration crackdown. Director Patel,

(50:45):
you treated the men and women at FBI with disrespect.
In paranoia, You've assembled a roving band of freelancing henchmen
within your office and charged them with conducting unauthorized investigations
targeting and harassing career FBI employees. Amazingly, you forced senior
leadership to repeatedly take polygraph tests to prove their political

(51:08):
loyalty and pushed out leaders who refuse.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
These demeaning exercises.

Speaker 7 (51:12):
And now we're seeing one very clear reason why you
want to build a political FBI, the Epstein files. You
want an FBI blindly loyal to Trump and to you
as an enforcer so you can continue your cover up
of a massive international sex trafficking ring with more than
one thousand victims, betraying all of the survivors of the

(51:35):
sexual violence. Before you got into this job, you called
for full release of Epstein files, telling podcaster Benny Johnson
that the only reason the list was not released.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
By DOJ and FBI was quote.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Because of who's on that list. Upon your confirmation, you
promised that quote there will be no cover ups, no
missing documents, no stone left unturned, and anyone from the
prior current bureau who undermines this will be swiftly pursued.
This spring, you ordered hundreds of agents to pour over
all the Epstein files, but not to look for more

(52:10):
clues about the money network or the network of human traffickers.
You pulled these agents from their regular counter terrorism or
drug trafficking duties to work around the clock, some of
them sleeping at their desks, to conduct a frantic search
to make sure Donald Trump's name and image were flagged
and redacted wherever they appeared, whether.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
An email attackt a letter, you gotta sends for it.
I wanted to watch it with you, brother Rothman, because
I thought Raskin was brilliant.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
Yeah, it was brilliant, absolutely solid on target all the way.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
And there's this notion and I see it in the chat. Well,
Patel's tuned out, he's not listening. He's not playing it
for Patel. Are you kidding me? You think he's doing
giving that speech for patelsed us. He's talking to us exactly.
That's what he's laying the case out for the American people.
It's a reminder of all these specifics. Believe me, he

(53:07):
doesn't give an us about Patel. You know, Patel is
there a Patel's a hatchet man. So I loved what
he did. I think Raskin was just as you say,
brilliant in that moment. And Patel is of a kind. Uh.
The utter incompetence that's populated this administration at the highest

(53:28):
levels and their entire existence is defined by loyalty and
also effectiveness. As communicators on television, i'd say those two things.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
I agree completely.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
What's going to happen with America's economy, John, I see
it as teetering. I write before you came on, was
speaking to and reading a piece from an economist who
was talking about the fact that the economy is right
now being supported by really two things, also rich people

(54:04):
and AI AI investment.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
I listened carefully to what you said, and I agree completely.
What the Fed did today by cutting rates by half
a point is not going to be enough. We are
in deep trouble economically, and I think a lot of
Republican leadership understand that. One of the things that's happening
right now is that Donald Trump is being challenged internally

(54:30):
over tariffs. And one of the things that I will
be looking for next month when the Supreme Court convenes
is whether or not they will uphold this president's tariff program.
Let me point out to you that the president has
no right under the Constitution to unilaterally impose tariffs. Go
back to Smooth Hawley. It has to be Congress will

(54:52):
look court, and it's a serious question. Will the Court
uphold the law, or will the conservative majority on the
Court six to three vote uphold what he's done with tariffs.
So I'm waiting to see that. But let me tell you,
I'm very conservative economically. I'm being very careful because I

(55:13):
believe that we are headed for some very tough times.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
The Supreme Court is seen by Trump clearly as his concierge.
Supreme Court. It's given him immunity, it's given him, given
him broad powers. Seems they're definitely a shoe in already
for three votes, right, wouldn't you say for anything that
he wants?

Speaker 6 (55:38):
I mean absolutely, And the two key swing votes are,
without a doubt in my mind anyway, the Chief Justice
and Amy Coney Barrett. If they flip, then it's a
five to four majority for the Conservatives. But it's a

(55:58):
long way to go. But look, Mark, what can I
tell you? You ask you, and I have argued this.
I've always had faith in the system. I have almost
no faith that we will withstand this crisis unless the
Supreme Court stands up and really reacts. So that's what

(56:18):
I'm waiting for, and we'll be talking about it a
month from now.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Exactly exactly it's on the It's in the on the docket,
which will.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Be By the way, did I just make a quick comment,
did you listen this morning to the former CDC director
h and the Republicans of Robert F. Kennedy Junior, Not
all Republicans, but most What Robert Kennedy Junior has done
to the health of this country as Secretary of Health
and Human Services is the most disgraceful, horrific thing I've

(56:50):
seen in years. And the fact that he is still
Secretary of Health in Human Services is to.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Me absolutely abhorrent. Who's going to refer that?

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Oh? Oh, and by the way, did I tell you
I'm suing you. I don't know what you did, Mark,
but if Trump can sue the New York Times for
fifteen billion dollars, I recognize the limitations of your pocketbook.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I'll do it for half. Well, this is a very
interesting story that John alludes to because this lawsuit, you know,
he's suing the Wall Street Journal over the birthday card,
and he's suing the New York Times and some of
the reporters for articles and a book that make the
case that he built his fortune and reputation in part

(57:36):
through fraud. Right, right, right, And this is a this
is a It brings only more attention as usual to
something that he doesn't want attention on. Right. It's a
little like Epstein. So you sue, and they're arguing. The
Trump legal team is arguing that The New York Times
wrongly gave producer Mark Burnett credit for the success of

(58:00):
the NBC reality show The Apprentice, rather than giving credit
to Trump, who served as the show's host and star.
I mean, if that's not just an ego play found
in a court document, I don't know what it is now.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
I know you hate it when I do this, so
I'm not doing it to aggravate you. But if you
listened to the exchange yesterday that Donald Trump had with
Jonathan Carl of ABC News, who you and I have
both interviewed, I want to just point that out.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
One of the most.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
Solid, reputable journalists I think on television today.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah, read his book, had him on sure, yep.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
And you heard the President essentially say you hate me
and we're going to get you. I mean, that was
the essence of it.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Well, he said. We ran the clip twice yesterday during
the show. If you want to find it, gout. But
it's no, no, it's not you. I'm just mentioning it
to others who are tuning in and want to see it.
But you can find it everywhere where. He said you
have hate in your heart, and he was talking about
hate speech, and he says, maybe I'll go after you.
You know, your company's already given me fifteen million dollars
or sixteen million dollars. I think he's what he said, Yeah,

(59:08):
which I know I may go after you next the
Trump Library, just so you know it. So, yeah, Trump's
that was a shakedown. Shakedown of ABC, shakedown of CBS.
Most of these are shakedowns. This is just interesting because
what he's trying to point to is the fact that
he is a legitimate rich guy. And what they're suggesting

(59:32):
is he was gifted all this money from his father,
he squandered it all and then his rise back up
was because his image was reconstituted on The Apprentice by
Mark Burnett, et cetera. So that's why he singles at
Mark Burnett to.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Point that I'm sorry, I can't listen every day. I
do try to tune in. I just want you to
know that, just so the record is clear.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Okay, Thank you. Well, anyway, the case is filed by
Trump as a private individual in federal court in Tampa, Florida.
Is something that he notes. He said, you know, we've
we've filed this case in Florida, and the filing itself
has all this praise of Trump as a politician, as
a president, as an entrepreneur, as an entertainer, and it was,

(01:00:19):
you know, submitted by this team of attorneys who have
represented Trump in other lawsuits, like the lawsuits I mentioned ABC, CBS,
Wall Street Journal, and I'm I'm astounded. I mean, I
don't think there's any way you can win it. But again,
it might fall into the shakedown category. John, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Where he has, don't you understand? He operates on fear
and intimidation and threats and what worries me and I
used the word, I got a lot of criticism for it.
What he's done is to purge, purge departments and offices
and cabinet of it. He's purging is I hate to

(01:01:03):
say this, this is what you expect from an authoritarian.
We've seen it done in society after society, and ultimately,
I have to believe I know that you and I
argue about this but I have to believe that ultimately
the American people are going to wake up. I don't
know what it's going to take, because to me, Donald

(01:01:24):
Trump has already taken away so many liberties. But this
is something we all need to reflect on. And I
want to compliment you if I may not that I
want your ego to grow anymore. But I thought you
were playing that. But I thought you were playing Rayskin's comments.
Was absolutely a brilliant stroke. I know that it was

(01:01:47):
a little bit long, but I want you to know
it was worth every second of it, and I'm delighted
that you did it well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Thank you John for that. I am you know, I
am kind of a big I am glad we ran it.
But I just make a point about the length. You know,
we're used to, particularly in this media landscape, short soundbites.
That's why you see the shoutdown between Corey Booker and Patel,
and you see these shoutdowns out of these Senate hearings.

(01:02:13):
That's not the stuff of import it's the stuff of virality.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
So rain sincere comments that matter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
If we were still on KGO Radio, from which we came,
John and myself and everybody on our crew we wouldn't
be able to do what I just did. We're on
a podcast that allows us some breathing room. I could
run all of Jamie Raskin, and by the way, I
even thought about running it runs about seven minutes. But
the reason I thought it would be good to run
it with brother Rothman on board is that I valued

(01:02:44):
his takes and I loved that whole run that Raskin did.
I mean, that was just as I say, about two
thirds of it. So thanks for calling it out, because
I think it was a way in which this show
is different than the radio show in a good way.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Yeah, well for one of them. Some of you follow
me on Facebook, and I know many of you do
know that. This last week on the eleventh, actually we
had five of us from KGO who got together and
we had lunch, and there was a picture posted and
we got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people saying
what we all feel. The advantage of a KGO was

(01:03:22):
that we could operate as a community and really interact
with each other. And whether it's my podcast or the
Mark Thompson program, the thing that we aren't able to do,
which I regret more than I can ever say, is
that flexibility and mark If you had worked as I
did for eleven years and eleven months, but who's counting

(01:03:46):
the overnights at KGO, I would have played the entire
rascin thing, because in the middle of the night you
can do anything. A damn well please made for very
stimulating radio.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I would Yeah, we be up against commercials and likely
not be able to do it during the day. But look, John,
we value your take. I mean, it looks as though
I will swing you for a second over to Gaza
and everything happening there. There's another ugly chapter being played
out there with Gaza the Israeli government. You see the pushback.

(01:04:20):
To be fair, I think it's important to note tremendous
pushback against the Israeli government from Israelis. I mean there
are hundreds of thousands of people in the streets pushing
back on this. So the policies of the Netan Yahoo
government are not popular, it wouldn't seem in Israel.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
I don't know whether they're popular or not, because there
won't be an election until next year and then Natanyahu
will face the people. But this I do know, and
I hope you noted this. That one hundred and fifty
Jewish professors at the University of California at Berkeley have
released a statement condemning the Trump administration for wrapping all

(01:05:01):
of their so called free speech in the cloak of
fighting anti Semitism. There are two issues for Jews in
America that are vital. One is the idea that we
will not accept Donald Trump using that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Bocus issue.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
But the second is American support for Israel is firm.
And that's what's important. I point out, and I do
it very respectfully, that if Israel laid down its arms tomorrow,
it would be destroyed. If Hamas would lay down its arms,
we might see a ceasefire and some reconciliation. No one

(01:05:40):
I know defends what is happening today in terms of
what the penalty and the obvious tragedy for the Palestinian people.
They must reform themselves. But until then, as we saw
a terrorist attack in Jerusalem just last week, which Hamas initiated,

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no matter what they say, this is going to continue.
Can you win people's hearts and minds? I pointed out
in the talk I gave the other day that no
matter who wins or loses, in the end, the embittered
Palestinian people and the future of future terrorists being developed

(01:06:25):
is going to happen because for every action, there is
a reaction. So from my vantage point, I defend absolutely
Israel's right to exist in peace and security. I condemn
the idea that Hamas would continue to do this, and
I am cognizant of the fact that you and I
will in just a few weeks be talking about a

(01:06:46):
vote in the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state,
and when that comes, we will have a vigorous discussion
about that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
By the way, I mean, i'd suggest that General Assembly,
So it's non I mean, the political momentum internationally is
certainly toward that, wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
Yeah, But let me point out to you and I
do this again, respectfully, this is not new. When the
Zionism as Racism Resolution was passed on November tenth, nineteen
seventy five, the attitude of the world was just as
vigorous in its opposition to Israel. And I have no
problem with criticism of internal Israeli policies, none at all.

(01:07:25):
I do have a problem when you saw what you
saw in Auckland and in London, when you saw people
chanting death the Israel, death of the Jews. And I
want to remind everyone that this development is what caused
one hundred and fifty Jewish professors at UC Berkeley yesterday

(01:07:48):
to speak out. So please understand there is a complex
series of issues, and I'm happy to talk about the
Middle East. I don't like to do it, as they say,
standing on one foot, but I can assure you this
is just the beginning of an even longer discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Veilma asks, can John comment on the Heritage Society's new
book called the Constitution New Plans for this administration? Yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
Oh no, it's just a continuation of what they're doing.
And I must tell you and you and I talked
about this, and I again commend you for being one
of the few who really raise the flag on this
that the Heritage Foundation report Project twenty twenty five, which
we tried to expose. Donald Trump said he never read it.

(01:08:34):
This is what Heritage is doing again. They want a
continuation of and I'm going to be very careful in
the language I use the Trump Revolution. People think the
Reagan Revolution was something. The Reagan Revolution is nothing compared
to what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
And This plan by Heritage is a profound concern to
all Americans, and I suggest people google it and read
it and they will see how dangerous. And these are
the people that Donald Trump has in his administration. This
is the map that they are using for the future,
and it is something which we must fight against with

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every fiber.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Of our being. Well, they have a different view of
the Constitution, that's for sure. And it's essentially it's a rewrite.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
You know, you're not only is it a rewrite, it's
a complete reinterpretation. Whenever I hear someone say they are
an original list, that is, they follow the original text
of the Constitution. And I look at what Heritage is suggesting.
My god, it's appalling. And I could go, I could

(01:09:42):
give you a list of one hundred different items, but
I guess we can just limit it to the fact
that the Justice Department has been gutted, the Department of
Health and Human Services has been gutted, and common sense
in the Republican Party no longer exists.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Well, I just I was say this about the coming
about the Heritage Foundation rewrite of the Constitution. They offer
an analysis claused by clause and essentially it's a road map.
It's a manifesto for the Supreme Court justices and others
to interpret the Constitution in a way that will permit

(01:10:20):
much of what we've seen talked about the unitary executive, etc.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
The broadening of these powers. Yeah, you heard these from
San Francisco. The Trump is firing San Francisco judges who
favored granting asylum. He is simply firing these immigration judges.
And there is a little or no comment about it.
So you and I are dealing with a problem which

(01:10:46):
is so difficult and so complex. And may I tell
you we don't have enough hours in the day in
order to explain all of this. I know you're going
to deal with the environment in the next section, but
I do want to say, just take a look at
what's happened to the Environmental Protection Agency, take a look
at what happened in the climate crisis around I mean,

(01:11:06):
you can go on and on and on, and that's
the problem. It's so vast and so dangerous and anyway, welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
John, I appreciate you. Your podcast is a daily offering
around the political world with John Rothman.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Check it out and may I throw in the voice
of San Francisco. I do the podcast. I am the voice,
and you will note that we had a major election
here in San Francisco yesterday and a member of the
Board of Supervisors, Joel and Guardio, was recalled. And this
will put Daniel Luriy in the hot seat because of

(01:11:42):
so many things going on here. But in any case,
I know our time is up. May I say it
is always a high honor and great personal privilege. And
in conclusion, support the Mark Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Jow Ah, thank you sir. Great to see you. John Rothman.
All the very best to you, John Rothman. Everybody, yeah,
right on right on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Who's Mark Thompson?

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
When they rated my ALONGO, God didn't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I'm loving that you all arrived here. However you got here.
Thank you for being here. Smash that like button if
you will. It's a weird thing, but that thumbs up
really does matter in the YouTube universe. Smash it like
a boss. Yes, your iron rode right on and uh
do appreciate uh Anthony Davis coming through for our one,

(01:12:47):
John Rothman coming in for our one and a part
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Hit the notification bell subscribe to our show and you'll
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Share it on places like Facebook. What is the story, Kim?

(01:13:07):
With the fan page on Facebook? Do you go there?

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Go there? Sometimes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Well, what give me a state of the state on that? Please?
Then you're my I'd like a brief report.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
There's a lot of different folks posting a lot of
different ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Could you be more generic in your description?

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Did you want to run down of exactly what is
on the page at this time?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
I don't need an exact rundown, but like for example,
they will say this or that. I'm just curious as
to what things that we do on the show animate
the conversations or the back and forth. There on the
Facebook page, which is the Mark Thompson Show fan page,
it was started by who. I'm sorry to interrupted. It

(01:13:51):
was started by who.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Started by Wes who is taking a little Facebook break
right now for sanity, But you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Know that's ironic. At the top.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Point, you have to but there's a lot of posts
recently about the Charlie Kirk and about free speech. People
are you know will post different things from different podcasts
or video shorts or reels that they have seen. Someone
posted recently something about a fly infestation at Alcatraz Island.

(01:14:23):
So you know there's a meme about living in a Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a lot of Kirk things lately.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
That's something. Well, I'm always anxious to hear reports from
the front. What he's got going? Here is a situation?
All right, it's on Facebook. There's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
There's a you know, I found this one amusing. I
have to share my screen. This one I think is amusing.
They had recently someone posted the video this video of
Cash Patel, kind of a short of Cash Pattel. You
can see here. Oh he's wearing like the yeah yeah,

(01:15:08):
because he said onto Valhalla.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Right, that's really good, pretty clever.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Yeah from Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Well done on that, Mike from Detroit City. Wow, nice job.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
You know it's it's an interesting place to gather.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah, I don't know. That's cool.

Speaker 8 (01:15:25):
How does the internet work?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
All right? Well, you get on I guess the I
guess this is Mark Thompson show Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Mark fan discussion page.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah, that's really really cool. Well anyway, very very very cool.
Alberts I do have a heartbeat here before I have
to get onto the next item I think, isn't that correct?

Speaker 8 (01:15:48):
Yeah, you need to be here and flexibility in the
second hour.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
All right, cool, I'm wanting to go to Kim's News.
You know, she works very hard to craft a newscasts
and of course, as she's mentioned already, there's been a
lot of stuff breaking this morning, not the least of
which is the decision by the Fed to lower I
think they're going to lower a quarter percent off the

(01:16:14):
off crime rate. Yeah, so that probably is the big
breaking news, certainly with the economy. But I know there
is more going on. So let's hit Kim's News. Then
we've got it's the planet stupid, then I will I'll
pick up whatever pieces of information I feel you should

(01:16:36):
still know about. There's actually quite a bit. There is
more Kirk stuff, there is more cash Betel stuff, and
there is more even in the way of the Chicago
mayor and the back and forth with Donald Trump plans
to send troops to Chicago. So all of that's still
to come, and we'll get to all of it as

(01:17:00):
we continue. All right, that's the plan Kim's News, and
we continue. Mark Thompson Show The Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
On The Mark Thompson Show, I'm Kim McAllister. This report
sponsored by Coachella Valleycoffee dot Com. As Mark mentions, the
Federal Reserve is lowering interest rates. The Fed cutting rates
by a quarter percentage point today. This as President Trump
has called for the Central Bank to lower rates for months.
Look like he finally got his way on that. Suspect

(01:17:37):
in the killing of Charlie Kirk allegedly had been planning
it for more than a week, according to text messages
released between Tyler Robinson and his roommate. Meanwhile, President Trump
and Vice President Vance are both expected to speak at
a memorial service for Kirk Sunday's service to be held
at the State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, where his widow.

(01:17:58):
Kirk's widow will also give remarks, along with Secretary of
State Marco Rubio, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, and Defense Secretary Pete hegseeth. So it's a
full MAGA event. Deputy Attorney General Todd blanche says hate
speech is covered by the First Amendment. The Deputy Attorney
General making the remarks during an interview, and it comes

(01:18:19):
as Attorney General Pam Bondi is facing criticism for her
remarks about the policing of speech after the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. The Attorney General prompted a blowback from civil
liberties groups Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. Bondi is
attempting to clarify her comments by explaining, there's free speech
and then there's hate speech. She noted, the Justice Department

(01:18:42):
will prosecute those targeting anyone with hate speech.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Well, this is really important, and I would just say
this because I know when you see Ted Cruz and
people on the right pushing back against Bondi's comments then
making the point as Kim has just noted that hate
speech is protected. What you're already seeing though, is that
speech is not protected. Free speech is not protected in

(01:19:09):
America anymore. And what do I mean by that. I mean,
look at the way the government and again when you
get to the First Amendment, it's about the government not
coming after you for what you've said. And of course
the other manifestations of free speech not just always what
you said, but you can express certain views in different ways.

(01:19:31):
That's also considered first amendmently a first amendment of protection expression.
But the point here is that we've seen from this
administration so far a combing of social media and of
comments that federal employees have made, and then the immediate

(01:19:51):
dismissal of those with whom they have an issue when
it comes to what they've said or what they've posted.
They've gone through all of these different postings, Facebook, the
Twitter X platform, TikTok, whatever, and if they find the
comments made by federal employees to be in any way

(01:20:14):
those that they don't approve of, they dump those employees
or they make their lives so bad that they are
forced to resign. So in a way, from the various
very earliest days of this administration, you already had a
war on free speech. I understand there's been this crescendo

(01:20:36):
associated with what happened with Charlie Kirk, but what I
want to point out to you is that it's been
going on for months. So even as they now peacock
often on the right, going hey, hate speech is protected,
it's first Amendment. Well, there are a lot of things
being done by the existing government that would suggest that

(01:20:58):
free speech is not protected and not valued by this Administration.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
FBI director Cash Patel once again appearing on Capitol Hill
as he testifies before a House committee. This comes after
Patel testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday. In his
opening remarks, Pattel touted the agency's investigation into the Kirk
killing and said it was his call to release photos
of the suspect.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
I mean, give me a break, man, They released photos
and release photos always after this kind of thing. I mean,
you're going to brag about the fact that you release
surveillance photos and ask for the public's help. I mean,
we've been doing that since kids have been missing, and
we've been putting their faces on milk cartons. Give me
a break. I mean, this guy is insanely vapid. He is.

(01:21:51):
That he would pat himself on the back with that
brag is pathetic. He is a pathetic figure in this
Trump ad ministry. And look, it's not just me saying it.
He's become this really troubled guy. And it's not because
Democrats are in any way savaging him on Capitol Hill.
I mean, as as I say, I think in these

(01:22:13):
back and forth he oftentimes wins because he's used to
these shoutdowns. But his utter incompetence of the FBI and
the way the FBI has changed. I mean, it ultimately
may catch up with him and he may not survive. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
He you know, he was criticized over what did you do? Right,
I'll step back and let the police do it. But
then they then then stepped forward and took credit for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
So the photos.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I released the photos, Mark, you know, yeah, last thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
He released the photos. And what happened. What was the
rest of the investigation. What incredible innovation to investigative police work?
Did you have cash pretel none. What happened was the
family called and said, we've got him. He's in our family,
it's my son, We've talked to him. I mean, you
know it. It's the it's the clergy, it's the sheriff.

(01:23:03):
It was all of these people who knew Robinson, and
so you end up with the kid being turned over
to the authorities. That's why it happened so fast. I
saw the hearings. I watched the hearings and listened to
him say it happened in thirty six hours. And just
for context, let me tell you with the Boston Marathon bomber,

(01:23:26):
it took eight days and then he went down all
of these other various major incidents and talked about how
much longer those took to figure out who the perpetrator was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Come, dude, Cash Pattel hadn't released the pictures, the family
wouldn't have seen, and we'd still be looking for the killer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Okay, Yeah, you're right. When you put it that way out,
you cannot say you love your country. You're right. I'm sorry,
it is It was great what he did.

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
It was great. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
House Speaker Mike Johnson is accusing Democrats of inserting this
is rich again with a straight face. House Speaker Mike
Johnson is accusing Democrats of inserting partisan political preferences into
the government funding fight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Oh what, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Shocker. During an interview, Johnson said Democrats are going to
lose this battle and warn they are risking a shutdown
if they don't drop their demands. Democrats are calling for
the extension of the Affordable Care Act and tax credits,
and Republicans will need Democratic votes to enact any stopgap
funding bill. Government funding set to expire at the end

(01:24:33):
of the month unless Congress can reach a deal. Former
Attorney General Bill Barr says he had at least two
conversations with President Trump about late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
According to a recently released transcript from the House Oversight Committee,
Barr recalled his conversations with the President after learning Epstein

(01:24:54):
was found dead in his prison cell in twenty nineteen.
Barr said both men raised concerns the suicide might lead
to a conspiracy theory or too He warned President Trump
to brace for the aftermath of Epstein's death. House Oversight
Chair James Comer released the full transcript from Barr's deposition
last month, as well as letters from Attorney's General Alberto

(01:25:16):
Gonzalez and jeff Sessions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Well, just to remind you, Bill Barr's dad hired Jeffrey
Epstein for that boys high school. Okay, he was, He
hired him as a math teacher. Bill Barr is in
just some kind of dude who was Attorney General who's
weighing in on this. He has connections to Jeffrey Epstein
through his father, and Bill Barr is the guy who

(01:25:43):
did what he dry cleaned the Muller report. I mean,
Bill Barr's been covering for Donald Trump ever since he
set foot in the Oval office. So Bill Barr's comments
are I'm sorry, they're tainted, massively tainted.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Late Russian opposition lead Alex Navalney's widow says foreign lab
results concluded that he was poisoned. According to the post
from the woman's ex account, laboratories in two different countries
conducted independent examinations and determined Navalney was poisoned while serving
out a prison sentence at an Arctic penal colony. Authorities, though,

(01:26:20):
say the Russian opposition leader died of a combined illness.
They are rejecting claims that he was intentionally killed. Former
New York Congressman George Santos says he is in solitary
confinement after a death threat at his New Jersey prison.
The thirty seven year old says he's been forced into
solitary at the FCI Fairnton for at least thirty days

(01:26:43):
while the FBI investigates a threat against his life. In
an essay for The South Shore Press, Santos described his
new digs as extremely dirty. A cell with a sink,
a toilet, and a shower with ice cold water. That's
kind of what this Santos. Santos he's the Georgia. It's

(01:27:03):
George Santos. Yeah, too dirty. It's very dirty the cell. Santos,
who's serving seven years in prison on federal fraud charges,
has called the prison hell on Earth and is hoping
President Trump will commute his sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Wow, what's a little alive between Freds.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
More than twenty unions and college faculty organizations in California
are suing the Trump administration for financial coercion. The unions
and organizations represent workers at every University of California campus.
The lawsuit, formerly filed by the American Association of University Professors,
challenges Trump's Administration's one point two billion dollar fine against UCLA.

(01:27:47):
In August, the federal government suspended five hundred and eighty
four million dollars in research funding for UCLA as well,
stemming from the pro Palestinian encampments on campus in the
spring of twenty twenty four. Officials say the encampments created
a hostile education environment for Jewish and Israeli students. Google

(01:28:07):
is introducing a new feature that allows AI agents to
make purchases on behalf of their human users. The company
says Agent Human Protocol Yeah is completely secure. It requires
dual approvals from the user. American Express, MasterCard, PayPal, Salesforce
and others are backing this, So there you go. And

(01:28:30):
Atlanta man is being accused of stealing hard drives that
contained unreleased music from Beyonce. Police said Kelvin Evans has
been taken into custody on suspicion of breaking into a
car in July and Atlanta ahead of Beyonce's concerts in
the city. There was a choreographer and dancer for Beyonce

(01:28:51):
that had the items stolen and the break in including
a laptop with the unreleased music on it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Officers said the stolen items, though, have not been re covered,
so that music may be lurking out there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
And just in case you wondered, and I know this
is really important to you, Mark, Atlanta is at the
top of the list of polyamorous cities in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Wow. Those are people who like to have have multiple.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Relationships or I think it's simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Like sexy times, That's what I mean. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Atlanta is that kind of entertainment with your iron rod.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah, there's a lot of smashing it going on, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Yeah, all right, yeah, polyamorous describes relationships involving romantic connections
with more than one person simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
You just don't get it. I don't, I don't can't.
What does that mean? A threesome or a foursome or whatever?
Is that what that is?

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
For many some? I don't think there's a limit like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
That true swinger party.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Don't know. I mean, it might not be a party.
I guess you could, just like I think you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Had that many people being amorous and it's not going
to be a party. I mean, come on, do.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
More research on the website. The website sisterwives dot com
shows the more people from Atlanta signed up on the
website than any other I just I.

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
Do hug and kiss people casually.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I get it. But I uh, I think Kim right
now is pretending that she doesn't know much about this.
Albert That's what I'm going Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Houston, Dallas, and New York City also ranking high on
the Sister Wives list.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
There you go, So it's Atlanta top of the list.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Yeah, but yeah, okay, well just in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
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going down?

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Wow?

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Murphy says, it's not about having sex with more than
one person at the same time. Kim, Oh, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
About just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
You don't, Kim, you don't, don't. It's it's about being
romantically involved in existing relateationships at the same time. So
that's what I thought it was, Murphy, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
So it's not just about sexy stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It's about, you know, I think this is your sex
obsessed mind. More than one boyfriend, by the way, I
love your sex. I mean, you know nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
It was all about the sexual stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Well, somebody really doesn't get it, and I guess that
somebody is you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
So, but if you're into it, go to Atlanta, That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
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blend that has Biggie Bigger multi blend, the polyamorous blend. Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Angel Star says exactly. It's like Murphy said, I ain't bragging,
I'm just saying, says angels start. Wow. Sounds to me
like we've got some polyamorous folks in in the mix
of it, and good for them, I say, you do
you right? Yeah? Polyamorous is having a relationship with two partners. Yeah,
well I want to apologize, I mean, but two or

(01:34:01):
more partners? Yeah, Okay, it sounds like you might want
to apologize because you didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
Would you like to apologize for what you've done?

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
You didn't really characterized by or involved in the practice
of engaging in multiple romantic and typically sexual relationships with
the consent of all involved.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
So I'm going to say you're both right, all you
people who are saying multiple romantic and kim sort of right.
That's typically sexual.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I'll give you my bat I'm sorry if I offended.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
All Right, my bad, I'm sorry. Okay, very good, there
you go. I don't want to you want to apologize
to the Asian community.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
We'll apologize to.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
The apologize change your community, the Asian American community.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
All right, I'm Kim McAllister. This is the Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Who's Mark Thompson.

Speaker 8 (01:35:06):
It's unbelievably offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I think you know what the problem is just as
well as I do.

Speaker 6 (01:35:19):
Hay bar, it's Georgianzo's here. A lot of people are
telling me you're a liar. That's pure speculation. There's always
been in this country. Thirty thirty five percent idiots.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Morning. Where are my weed? Smokers at your are like
to ask for a recess?

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Can you let him finish?

Speaker 9 (01:35:49):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
You cannot say you love your country.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
That was very inappropriate. Don't talk to me that way.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
What do you think I'm going to say to you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Whoever is producing this thing has no idea what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:36:09):
So have you ready to be a piss cash?

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Thank you all for being here. We're kind of in
the last half hour of the madness. We've had quite
a bit going on today. We started with some birthday announcements.
By the way, do we visit these or do we
just visit them off the air? I feel like we
visited them off the air, Albert, isn't that what happened
nullifidian early with these birthdays? And we knew, of course,

(01:36:41):
And I know most people. You look at these births,
you're gonna know Hank Williams, you'll know Roddy McDowell, Ann Bancroft,
Ken Kesey, John Ritter. I didn't know Leon fu Co
and Albert pulling out the Leon fuc website. He was

(01:37:02):
someone who was a was a mathematician, philosopher or what was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
He was the guy that was the French physicist.

Speaker 10 (01:37:08):
I think, right, something about the Earth's rotation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
And then yeah, pendulum, that's right, Yeah, very very good.
And then uh, take me to the next guy, Bernard Rieman.
Do we know who he is?

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
He was the mathematician. He was a mathematician, yeah, who
then had dealings with triangles Constantine.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Uh, Silkovski. It's not Schaikovsky.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
It's not a composer whose name was Peoter. This guy,
it turns out was a Russian expert.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
On He was very very good. Okay, and how about
Edgar Mitchell?

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Look up him.

Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
Google.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
One of the things we do before the show goes
on is I'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
And then Dean Mitchell was a United States Navy officer
and aviator, test pilot, aeronautical engineer, UFO, ufologist, and NASA astronaut.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
He was on the lunar module pilot of Apollo fourteen
WOW nineteen seventy one. Mister Mitchell spent nine hours working
on the lunar surface in the from Mauro Highlands region.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
On the Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
He was the sixth person to walk on the Moon.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Aren't we embarrassed that we didn't know that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
What do you get for being the sixth guy to
do something?

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Well, apparently you get forgotten by a lot of other Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Would you get your name on the birthday list? That's
what you get.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
I don't know. John Ritter. I rode to the Super
Bowl with John Ritter. He was a really great guy. Yeah,
I didn't really know him, well, I met him on
that ride to the but he was just wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Of course you were on a plane with him or
no on.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
A It was a bus ride was like a oh
it was a bus. It was a I don't want
to brag, a celebrity bus. See big deal. A bunch
of us people were going to the Super Bowl guests
of the network. Brian says, there with an eighteen dollars
super Chat fifty seven eighty six begins Monday evening. May

(01:39:19):
the Rothman clan have a sweet New Year. Now, this
would have been good to do. During John Rothman, Albert,
why did we not do it? Then? Kim, did you
see this? And please be honest you're under oath.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
I didn't see it, and I blame you. Yeah, of
course I blame you all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
In the best of health, says Brian and all of
the Mark Thompson Show crew as well. Of course, we
love you all, Brian Reich with a that's nice shout
out for the sweet new Year, the Jewish New Year.
Thank you, Brian, and I appreciate your sentiments. I'm sorry

(01:39:55):
they couldn't be more appropriately placed. During John Rothman's segment, Mark,
I don't know a single person except one that thought
Patel won the exchanges in Congress? Is it that I'm
older at sixty?

Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Well, I don't know. Uh who have you've spoken with
and you know how it's framed. I mean, I'll tell
you that. I'm just saying Cash Betel, Pete hag Seth,
Janine Piro, Pam Bondi. They are all from the Fox
News universe. They are from the cable punditry universe. If

(01:40:35):
you put them on with a microphone in front of them,
the best you can do is play to a draw.
You will not beat them, you won't get out your evidence.
That's why I played We played it for you yesterday.
We played you the exchange yesterday in which you couldn't
even hear anyone but Cash Bettel because he was hugging

(01:40:56):
the microphone and screaming. I'm not saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Was almost like his mic was louder like do they
need to crank up the mics on the on this,
you know, Senate panel, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Please don't misunderstand me in lays. I'm not saying he's
winning on the merits. I'm not saying he's winning because
of the arguments he's making in the Forum of ideas.
He's obviously an inept moron. But when it comes to
the FBI yet, what he's really good at is this
kind of pugilism that's associated with these hearings because they

(01:41:31):
favor people who can yell over the other person. Yeah,
pugilisms are dig there anyway, That's what I was saying
in lays, and I'm sorry. I just think that he
Jamie Raskin, was genius and if you missed it, we
ran a bunch of it in the first hour. That's
the way to play this. If you're trying to grapple
with him rhetorically, you're going to lose or you're going

(01:41:52):
to play to a draw because he's going to hug
the mic and shout you down and never stop. You
keep expecting he's going to stop at the end of
a thought. No, no, no, no, no, that's not how
you win these arguments. These guys are truly they are
cable TV punditree masters. That's what they've done every day podcasts,

(01:42:13):
cable TV talking heads. So that was my point. And
I think Cash has turned has tuned out. Oh yeah, yeah,
that was the point. I get it. It wasn't done
for Cash, so that was it. Raskin came with receipts exactly.

(01:42:35):
Would like to see Raskin on the Supreme Court. Yes,
that would be great. Our economy always crashes under Republicans,
all true, Eohennio. They are now with a five dollars supersticker,
Thank you, Johannio. And as we know now, the Fed
cut rates by zero point two five percent a quarter percent.

(01:42:57):
I'd love to hear more about this and the impact
on the economy, since it's not my wheelhouse. Well Mobius
nine eighty one, thank you for that. I will say this,
You're probably not going to notice anything. The reason you
won't notice anything is because this is a funds rate
that is generally it affects banks mostly, so if you're
looking at car loans, for example, and you're looking at

(01:43:18):
mortgage rates, they aren't as affected by this kind of
thing as you would think they might be. If you
look at the Treasury bill rates, that is something that
would correspond more completely. But we'll see. I mean again
this I think I'm not to say it's it's nothing,

(01:43:40):
but just to say that the FED rate and Treasury
yields they can even run in opposite directions, and they
those treasury yields oftentimes are a better correlative with mortgage rates.
So I want to do it now on Wednesdays, we

(01:44:02):
like to spend a moment talking about the environment, talking
about the planet. This is It's the planet stupid, the
planet Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Some call me nature.

Speaker 10 (01:44:12):
I am very passionate about the planet Earth.

Speaker 11 (01:44:16):
A living, breathing planet capable of sustaining whatever life forms
we see flit to deposit on it spot.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe
we have her arm. It's the planet stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
No, no, no, it's the planet stupid. Our guide for
it's the planet stupid is Belinda Weymouth. She's on the
road and filed this report.

Speaker 9 (01:44:37):
Hey, everybody, guess where I am. I'm in this little
high alpine desert town in Colorado called Crestone. Now Christone
is super interesting because there is more population only one
hundred and twenty people I think officially in the little
town about fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Hundred who live outside of town.

Speaker 11 (01:45:00):
No building codes. So if you want to build your
dream house and have no one tell you that it's
not possible, not feasible outside of code, this is the
place where you come to do it. Gay some point.
This is j and Umer's dream house. For thirty years
they've wanted to build an earth bag house, and here

(01:45:23):
it is. So they started in February of twenty twenty three.
You can see the floor plan here and now we're here.
The walls are going in. There are sixteen hundred bags
in place. They're polyurethane and inside they're filled with Scoria rock,

(01:45:44):
which is laval rock. It's a great, great insulator. They
also have it on the floor of the building as well.
The round part. It'll be two bedrooms. It's just under
twelve hundred square feet. Along with the scoria, it's rough
cut timber and weather resistant Douglas fir. Really beautiful. Here

(01:46:07):
are the bags up close, the sixteen hundred of them.
It'll be two thousand all together. Our visionary chain.

Speaker 12 (01:46:14):
This is a little crane I built to lift all
the timbers. Basically, it's just a truck crane that mounts
to the back of the c but I found a
pipe that's the same size, mounted it to the side
of the building and used this as.

Speaker 6 (01:46:27):
A little drill winch. The taller brother holler afters up
and put.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
Them in place all by myself.

Speaker 11 (01:46:35):
Here is Jay's man crane lifting a six by twelve
eight switter. You're a real d Yi, man, did you
use the crane for the bags?

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
I did.

Speaker 12 (01:46:48):
We tried it with just a few just to see
what it did, but we didn't really need to.

Speaker 11 (01:46:52):
You just bring them up one at a time on
the ladder, right, just use muscle man power, lady powers easier.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Yeah, cool, they're not easier, but that's just as easy.
It's an amazing house.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Thank you. What an accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
When do you think it'll be finished?

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 12 (01:47:08):
Hopefully sooner than later, in a couple of years probably, Yeah,
hopefully hopefully within a year if we can spend a
lot of time on it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:47:16):
Is the street view of Jay and Erma's And of
course there are teepees and crestone. This is a weird
when geodesic domes covered in kind of ugly black foam
and lastly a house built from a silo.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
How cool is that? That's pretty cool. You realize innovation
is just a stunning thing. You get people just out
on their own doing stuff really really cool. Thanks to Yeah,
what a great time for her to meet these people
who are sort of like minded as well. Pretty pretty terrific.

(01:47:57):
Thanks for reporting from the road. And that's it's the
planet stupid for today more is.

Speaker 5 (01:48:04):
The planet stupid. No, no, no, it's the planet stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:48:07):
Next time only on a Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
I wanted to get to a little bit of a
law and disorder. Tomorrow I will get into a story
that I think is giant. I put it into the
mix today, but I think I'm going to set it
aside until tomorrow. And it's something that we talked about before,

(01:48:35):
but now it's getting more attention. And it's the crypto
money grab on the part of the Trump family from
Middle East investors. Primarily. I'm talking about billions of dollars.
It's the thing that really has supercharged the family's bottom line.
It's how Donald Trump, David K. Johnston would tell you,

(01:48:57):
has become a legit billionaire, probably close to four and
a half five billion dollars now, but not prior to
the presidency. Anyway, that story has a few connecting parts,
and I want to get into it tomorrow. The time
is a bit shorter right now, and I'd rather get
into it more toward the first hour of tomorrow's show,
So that will be that plan. But what I did

(01:49:20):
want to do, Albert, if you are down to do it.
I wanted to maybe get into a little law and disorder.
Can you make it happen for me? All right? Without
any further delay, although we do love delaying. This is
law and disorder in.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
The criminal justice system.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
The people hemps, addicts, thieves, bums, linos, girls who can't
keep on address, and men who don't care are represented
by two separate and equally important groups.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
A cop, a flat foot, a bullet dick, John Law.
You're the fuzz, the heat, your poison, your trouble, your
bad news.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
These are their stories.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
See out there on the outside when you're up against
the law. A strip club executive or two, or maybe
more than two, bribed an auditor with private dances, free trips.
It was all to avoid paying millions of dollars in taxes. Hey,

(01:50:21):
you know that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
You can get them lap dance and get out of
a tax bell And why.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Not free trips to some of the venues with private
dances to avoid paying more than eight million dollars in
sales taxes. What Yeah. Houston based RCI Hospitality Holdings, and
they put the h into hospitality folks and into holdings.

(01:50:46):
Its corporate leaders got favorable treatment during at least six
tax audits that were performed over a decade. This was
in exchange for perks given to a state auditor. This
according to the New York Attorney General Tisia James. She
says that RCI gave the auditor at least the auditor
at least thirteen complimentary trips to Florida, including hotels and meals,

(01:51:10):
plus up to five thousand dollars a day for private
dances at its strip clubs. How much do private dances
cost at Florida strip clubs? Apparently things have really changed
since I was at a strip club. They went to
a place called just so you may recognize it, I'll
share it with you. Tutsi's Tutsi's Cabaret in Miami. Oh oh,

(01:51:32):
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
The auditor got free dances, food, and admission at clubs
in New York as well. James said again the prosecutor
that RCI executives shamelessly used their strip clubs to bribe
their way out of paying millions of dollars in taxes.
And isn't that the American way? Everyone? Yeah, it might.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Be hard to think about paying taxes when there's boobs
in your face.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
You know. This is RCI Hospitality, publicly traded on the Nasdaq.
By the way, owns and operates more than sixty clubs
and sports bars and restaurants around the country, including Rick's Cabaret.
And they have establishments in New York and they own
two other businesses in Manhattan. Seventy nine counts in this indictment,

(01:52:20):
and we will tell you how it all shakes out. Meantime,
twin brothers made a million dollars scamming golf tea times
across California. According to the Feds, they've been busted their
southern California brothers. They've been charged with failing to report
more than a million dollars in income from an alleged

(01:52:41):
scheme centered around the world of golf tea time broker.
And you know a little something about this commissioner.

Speaker 8 (01:52:49):
It's awful. It's hard to get a tea time, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Do you you buy tea times like you buy Taylor
Swift concert tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Exactly? Exactly, Yes, that is a perfect parallel what.

Speaker 10 (01:53:02):
You'd have to do in a week in advance, which
is the frustrating part. So I'm assuming these people held
these and just sold them on their own.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
So you don't just call the golf club and see
if they have a tea time open.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
That's not Yeah, but they won't because these bry them
all up.

Speaker 10 (01:53:17):
Yeah, because people will buy them all up or it'll
be sold out, especially weekends, impossible to get a tea time.
Like you say, I want to play golf on Saturday,
I'm too late.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
This is a multimillion dollar business. I mean again there,
I had no idea. Yeah, it's a huge, huge world.

Speaker 6 (01:53:33):
And the wild idea, but it just might wo.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
They it's this odd corner of sports where middle men
snatch up coveted public tea times and sell them off
for a profit. Ted Kim forty one and Steve Kim
forty one, identical twin brothers, arrested by the Justice Department,
taken away and identical twin handcuffs. It all happened in

(01:54:02):
US District Court in Los Angeles. They face a variety
of federal charges, including multiple counts of tax evasion and
making false tax documents. It's the taxes, you see, Kim,
that they were angry about. They're not even angry about
these guys moving in for this scam. And finally, a
California DMV is saying that a woman named Isis can't

(01:54:24):
keep the I am icensed license plate that she's had
for years.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
I am Isis.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Can you imagine the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Hell is going on in the United States of America?

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Isis Wharton. Her Kia isn't just a car, It's a
way to express her identity. But that identity has been derailed.
The DMV is saying the I am Isis license plate
violates state rules because it could be linked to the
terrorist group with the same name, the Islamic state of

(01:54:54):
Iraq and Syria.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
I mean, that'll make you do a double take that
license plate, won't it.

Speaker 8 (01:54:59):
Yeah, it's a nice with the barbed wire around it too.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
It's true. Uh. She says she's owned the place since
twenty twenty two. She's paid to renew it every year,
no issues. All of a sudden, she says, she's super hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
She uh plans to fight it. That's what Isis does,
doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
But they do this soon me all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
I don't know what the hell they do it for.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Yeah, and there she is, Isis Wharton with the uh
seasoned to disorder and the DMV mess. She's gonna take
it all the way to the mat.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
She wants to fight for that license plate.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
She likes her. I am isis license plate, and that
is law and disorder. Tune in again next time. Four
more Law and disorder. I'm a Mark Thompson Show.

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
All right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Let's roll, Hey, let's speak.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
Can't flo up there?

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
My goodness? Could it be? We are beginning to wind
down here, sad. Tomorrow I'll talk about the crypto riches
of the Trump family and the connection to the UAE.
And we've got a lot more on farmers and the

(01:56:21):
clear warnings. We've talked at actually quite a bit about it.
I mean, given the fact that we're kind of city folk,
we spent a lot of time on what's happening with
the farming communities, both in California but also in Arkansas
and other parts of the country that have been decimated.
They've been decimated, to be fair, not just from tariffs,
but they've been decimated from already lean years, and now

(01:56:44):
tariffs and the loss of labor because ice and the
deportation of many who are workers. You end up essentially
gutting a lot of the American farming industry. So we'll
have more on that tomorrow. David Katz joins tomorrow. You
know David Katz notable for the fact that he believes

(01:57:06):
the Supreme Court will overturn the tariffs. He believes the
Supreme Court and has predicted this. Kat's a dummis. Says
that the Supreme Court will not uphold Donald Trump's ability
to impose these tariffs. That would of course create an
entire area of lawsuits for businesses that have gone under

(01:57:29):
because of the tariffs, also clawing back all that money.
But be that as it may. The Supreme Court is
on the hook to make the judgment, and Katz says
they will not rule with the president. Now you know me,
I'm a pessimist. I think very little of people generally,

(01:57:52):
and they usually don't disappoint me. And I think particularly
little of those who are so deep into their fealty
to whatever end they might express, and also whatever devotion
they have to in this case the president of the
United States. I believe they'll find a way to green

(01:58:14):
light the tariffs. And it scares me. But it's just
one of the things in front of the Supreme Court
coming up that's going to scare me. But we'll talk
to David Katz tomorrow. Anything else I need to do
before I say goodbye? Albert? Were there any videos that
I left orphaned? I feel like I left some videos

(01:58:36):
on the playing field, but that just maybe we'll have
to roll them to tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:58:40):
I think we'd have to get into it and then the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Show it chaplain Fred is saying, my license plate reads
I am Choppo, and he says, and I do not
get stopped. I love it. Thank you for the ten
dollars super check. Yeah, that's very creative, very creative, Albert,
it's noted by Brian. Let me go. This is a Luis.
It's been the four ninety nine. The super sticker says,

(01:59:04):
disgusting that this dude is being honored on the home
field of a real hero who gave up everything in
defense of this country. Rest in peace, Pat Tillman. I think,
of course I agree with you, the Pat Tillman. I've
talked to you about the Pat Tillman story. If you
haven't seen that documentary, see it today. It's one of
the best documentaries and it tells a terrific story. Maybe

(01:59:25):
you're referring to Charlie Kirk there in the planned military honors.

Speaker 8 (01:59:33):
Hettelman from the Bay Area. I believe too, right, I
think he's.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
From Wow, I mean even even more much of our
audience originally area. Brian Reich says, just don't think I
didn't notice that my eighteen dollars message to Rothman should
have been read when he was present. Of course, that's
exactly what I said, Brian. I was outraged, and I
blamed Kim. It's clearly Kim's fault, and I blame you. No,

(01:59:58):
it's not by fault. I'm talking off. I couldn't even
see it come in. It is absolutely inexcusable. And Kim
is slipping. Is everybody noticing that Kim is slipping? I
notice it? Your well, I mean, if you want to
get into it, Kim, I'm stripper story. I'm look strippers.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
And polyamory on the show today.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
I don't know that is true. That is true. I've
got to give her a couple of uh. I will
give her. Yeah, that is true. All right, Well, oh girl,
baby girl, don't even play Kim chit chit chitch. Yeah,
she's chit chit hitting her way. Oh, quit picking on Kim.

(02:00:41):
Oh dis justice. I can't believe the way that everybody
here is a situation. Oh my god, you people are
you know, it's outrageous. It is outrageous, exactly right. I
do not know even you were talking about marked and
slipping I say anything about Kim. Everybody, Oh is so great.

Speaker 5 (02:01:05):
That's me all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
I don't know what the hell they do it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
For tomorrow, the great David Katz and others as we continue.

Speaker 7 (02:01:12):
As for the Mark Johnson Show, Bye.

Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
Bye uh after party of Lives going on. We are time,
bye bye all the time, Bye bye, thank you, Albert,
thank you, Kim, thank you everyone. Bye bye

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