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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And welcome back to another production of After further review
with coach christ Norton, I am the radio guy, Doctor
Mike Prince, Coach Northern.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How you doing today, sir? Look, everything going fitty good
over here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Uh. My wife's going out of town for work. So
it's just me and my daughter at the house for
a few days. So we'll see if we can survive,
uh without us without us getting into it about the smallest,
the pettiest of little things. But uh, you know, we
we we have a good back and forth and uh
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with some human involved on both sides. So it's uh,
it's a great time to be over here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Unfortunately, look like everybody that I cheer up except Graham
and dropped another football game over the weekend. So yeah, buddy,
we'll get back at it and see what we can
do this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay, Look, but before we go in front of the
house of your daughter daughter, I know she had a little,
a little injury last week.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Is she okay? Now, yeah, she's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
She So to be honest with she's in the concussion
protocols just like a football player would be. So she
has to go through everything that they would have to
go through. Uh, you know, light sensitivity, no headaches for
a couple of days without medication, and then she can
resume resume her normal activities. You know, she can flip
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up and down the track of the sideline, but she
can't even do that, and she still goes to practice
and watch. But uh, you know, just one of those things.
Her doctor when she was younger, would tell us, make
that girl be a dancer. Don't let her do cheer
because she would saying on some Mondays she sees more
cheerleaders than she do football players.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wow, it's it's a lot of physical requirement for that,
and we're just playing for health and recovery for a
little up now. Speaking of recovery, coach, it was, as
you mentioned, a rough week in the case, even in
some of the wins right weekend for the conference as
a whole, I'm surprised, and maybe you can help give
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a little insight. Although they got to win, Sam, you
and Graham.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
A little bit more struggle than what I anticipated.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, I think what happens a lot of times as fans,
we have this we are such and such, they are them,
and we suhould beat them by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But that's not the reality of today's game.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Of football, especially when you had a lot of It
goes to matchups, especially if you have a team with
a pretty good quarterback, they can keep themselves in a
game and depending on what type of offense you run.
So that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you don't get to keep a team.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Together like you used to, where guys know what the
other guy's going I know how just say, if I
call my base zebra, I know this guy's gonna be
right here, and a new guy may not play it
the same way one guy does. Or you know, if
I'm playing linebacker, what the defensive end. I know this
defensive end he gonna spell it to me, and that
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means make the ball go outside. And if he doesn't
make it go outside, now two people have to adjust
instead of one. So it's that playing with each other
type of stuff is long gone where all guy's been
in the same system for a couple years now. It's
almost junior college football to me. But it's as as
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a coach, you'll take them. You'll rather make corrections in
the win then you do a loss. I'll tell you
that much. Having lost some closed games and having been
on the winning side or some closed games, the corrections.
They hear you much better when you win. If you
lose that game, it's almost like they come into meeting
mad at you for calling the play and they didn't execute,
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they didn't make a tackle, and now they looking at
you like man, you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And like I say, man.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Sometimes and I hate to say, a player, but sometimes
it boils down the jokers just making a play.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And it don't have to be an outstand and play.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Just do your job and get the jokers to the ground.
If you're on defense, if you're on offense, make the
simple block or make the easy catch. Because if you
can do the simple things well, it'll lead to you making.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
A big play.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You don't have to make a big play if you
get where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, I got exactly where you're coming from. Like you said,
when the dust settles, there's a double edged sword. In
my viewpoint, these games count, but they don't count. They
matter what they don't matter. And I'm even been guilty
of song would say, trying to defend, and maybe you
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can answer this he and better. We know we're playing
to win the games, but we are also trying tuneing
certain things and schemes and concepts in some of these
games because you don't want to let the full gamut
of tricks available just yet, because you get to come
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to conference play games.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So significance.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, And some people go by that for las, we'll
hold something back for a conference play. But some people say, man,
put it out there and make them spend time preparing
for this. So I tell you this through when I
was coaching on a high school level, we would show
up to a game and the coach would say, Hey,
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let's show this team dive option. We had never seen
it or showed it on film. Let's make them go
back in the locker room before the game and talk
about how they gonna defend the options instead of talking
about how they gonna defend our power that we were
known for on our.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Sprints, draw different things like that. And you know my philosophy, Hey,
man put it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Out there if we needed, let's use it. Don't save anything.
So let's let's let's let's make our players. Let's win
the ball game. Almost like Malcolm X say, by any means.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Necessary, I do not understand that, sir. And with that,
like I said, it's a half empty, half full, depending
on how you're looking at it. So we know the
elephant in the room. You know, your boys played up
and I say your boys, I'm talking about seven played
up against Fresno States. Pretty much what we expected out
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of there, going there, collect your cash, come back home.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So there's not much gained or lost on that end.
Are there any.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Other games that are standing out to you last week
that had you kind of scratching your head like I
wasn't expected that from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Them now everything sort of like say Chalkhill. For the
most part, I thought the Jackson Tuskeiger game would be
a little bit closer, to be honest with you, because
I know, you know touskeg had has this brand about themselves.
Jackson State wasn't playing with their starting quarterback. Hey man,
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that dog on Jackson State could beat you up.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Them Ice Stuggs probably was full at Tuskega. The hoss
cross or whatever they used to h to get ready
for the next week game and get their sorters out
was definitely in effect on the Tuskegee campus.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And the man then them jokes could beat you up. Man.
That's that's the the easiest way to say it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
When when they can pound the rock and make plays.
The defense made some big plays for him. Uh but
I really expected a closer game from the Tuskegee Tea PA.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But Jackson did as expected.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But and I think people because the way Jackson had
been winning what they're known for, they may be a
little bit disappointed because they not scoring for their fit
the points a game. But when you can control the clock,
control tempo, run the ball when you won't almost throw
the ball when you have to, which they not really
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forced to throw the ball, they can pretty much use
their play action passing game and you know, take shots
when they want to do what we call the flood concept.
Out the play action, get the ball, make some easy
throws for a quarterback, can get his confidence up. But
I mean they they shown why they're the champions and
why they predicted.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The win on that side, and you know, everybody else
was pretty much as as expected.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And to be honest with you, I guess moving forward
a little bit, I thought the Praierview game would be
a little bit closer because I thought that Praierview would
be able to make rights have to throw the ball,
but the tackling on the praierview side, I think if
you talk to them as a man, they would say
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they're tackling, let them down. And then their inability to
able to run the ball was a little bit surprising,
I would say, because of what they went through with
the RGV game. You know you're gonna focus on trying
to establish the run.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But it was it was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It was not to be for the Panthers on the
offensive line side, and a lot of times we always
blame our offensive line for not being able to run,
but sometimes you have to add into it the tight end,
the full back and even sometimes the wide receivers have
to make a plus in the running game to get
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to get it going. It has to be it's not
just the five guys that's that's supposed to be blocking.
It's everybody adding to the gumbo.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
As we say, yeah, well we're gonna address that in
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I want to touch back to Jackson State and then
add a game that I thought was a pleasant surprise.
Even though they lost up Jackson Pitton shutout coach.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They didn't score a quote unquote but thirty points, but
they did well enough.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And like you said, they showed dominance.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
In that game, and they showed what a team of
great expectations and high quality execute even if they're not
scoring sixty to fifty points.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The game and the team that impressed me in a
loss was beforem Cookness. It was a shootout fifty five
forty one, but I was impressed on their ability to
move the ball even though they gave up fifty five points.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, and you'll have a game like that from I'm
not gonna say certain schools, but every now and then
a quarterback er get hot, a receiver have an unstoppable game.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But you can expect that every now and then. But
the key to it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Now is can they do that on a consistent basis
and put some pressure.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
On some people? Right right? Right, Well, we'll see how
they come out.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
If I'm not mistaken, I think they're metched up against
Alabama A and M this week. But then I got
a huge disappointment for me. Then that was Texas Southern
at home against Lamar. I know Lamar came in ranked
twenty fourth, but to me, that was the decept of
twenty fourth and the FCS ranking I'm I'm expecting more
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out of Texas sothering. Maybe that's shame on me, but
there are grumblings now coming out that they're single pointing
going on in the camp.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Folks went through that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Hey, if you don't want to do it like I
want it done, there's the door. And we still still early.
But once again, it goes back to the pressure and
the impact of that first game at the gate, which
a rival in a conference game.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And you come up short on that game, well, you
know we used to have this. Then you can't that
certain teams beat you twice.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, they went to calv and honestly played better
against Calves than they did against Lamar. And it goes
back to what I used to say sometime, if you
know you're going to just say you're going to a
different neighborhood and you know we're gonna be playing against
these guys and they may be a little rough off,
you know, you gotta fight coming up, and you're fighting
somebody that's known for having a good hand game, then
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you're gonna prepare yourself a little bit different. I think
sometime and then sometimes I said it goes back to
the matchup that can cause some is, but I have
no idea they letting the praiview.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Game beat them more than once, as I alluded to early.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But sometimes, and I'll go back to my playing days
now as a player, when I was in school, we
went three and zero against Northwestern State during that time
when I was in school, But I want to say
we may have been one and three against Nichols and
our only loss was to a Nickels.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Team that we were there only win.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But like I say, sometimes it's the matchup, and sometimes
it's the mentality of playing against certain schools, and I
think sometimes we get caught up on things that don't
have anything to do with the game from a either
a coaching aspect or a player aspect, and that's gonna
lead you down the wrong path sometimes. But you know,
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talent wise, I would like to think that those guys
think they are better, But sometimes it's just the mentality
that it is. I mean, just getting past that roadblock
or some of the out of conference games can be
I would say, annoying to some people, and it can
be distracting to some people. And I'm not just talking
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about the coaches. I'm talking about you know, the players,
the fans because we all want to have a better
output than what we're having in our non comfort schedule.
But and I, if I could just put a finger
on exactly what it is, it'll be a couple of
things that I would say, this is why we're struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
With our non comas. Well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, I'm a I'm an addresser to style versus fights
or styles makeup fights. But which leads me now to
the Prairieview Rice game. Okay, a disappointing loss for Prairieview.
And let me well, I'll just let me get this
out the way. First, Coach, they announced twenty two thousand
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people in attendance.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
At that game. Adam, my.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Look, and excuse me for calling you might but if
they had twenty two thousand people at that game, I
don't they must have all been in the foy you look.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And this, this was disappointed to me, and I should
not be disappointed. But when I arrived at that game, truth,
I didn't see one barbecue pitt on both sides of
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I didn't see one ballpie. You know where I'm from.
We gonna ball, We gonna ball some neck bones Turkey
Necks t.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hold the game. God on this true. I did not
see any of that, even from the rights fans, the
players families on the praier view side, which I had
to go to the visiting side of the States.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm looking for a tail game.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I'm like, man, I'm gonna find somebody with a good
chicken wing, a good hot dog, a good Solda because
I don't drink before I do the game.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You know, I was sorely disappointed and be attendant. And
I tell you this one more thing. I talked to
somebody that work with the football team team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
At Prairiview, so I say, hey, are you going to
the game today? They didn't even know Praiview had a game.
Less more, that made it more disappointed. They didn't know
Praierview was playing in Houston. And it's somebody that was
involved with the football team at Praiview and the university.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was disappointed in that, and it hurts.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Me even to think about the empathy of what's going
on with the program. And it's not anything.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I'm gonna say it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
This is not a coaching issue.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I would say a fan or supporter issue. I guarantee,
if you take everybody from Prairieview that was at that game,
they might have had more people in Praiview.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Band than it had fans at that game.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Everybody from Prairie could have said in one section and
to me, I didn't go to school there, but I
feel like I'm a part of that university. That was
disappointing to me to see that few people show up
to that football game and support their school, their team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I think our school our team because I get.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
The money to prayer View at the beginning of the
semester so my son can attend school with them.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And not only that on Prairie View, but as Rice
as a quote unquote FBS program. Here, these folks were
being flirting about potentially going to the PAC twelve. Even
with the PAC twelve in this rebuilding phase. That's disappointing
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all the way around. But brother being say, that's all
I want to harp on is attendance. But attendance makes
a difference. I don't care when no one said it,
because how can we boast it. We're the number one
FCS attendant program and we're having what we're having. But
even though that was a road game, it should have
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been a home presence. And I still revert back to
when we're at home. It's not where it should be
at home. But I'm not gonna even focus on that.
You said something that was very key about the program.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is it panic time?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yet on the hill with where we're standing right now,
I think that you can you can you know, validate
or or correct that was still some bumps and bruises
from the UTR.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Game.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, you said you didn't think it was an upset.
I called it an upset. Then didn't think it was
an upset. I called it an upset. I know about
the portal, I know about the nil stuff. But still
coach and they yeah, they had time to uh practice
and all that. These folks had never played an CS game, period,
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and they beat you at home. Okay, it was closed,
But if the truth be told, they were very physical and.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
They did what they had to do to win on
the road.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And then the following week they go out and just
just annihilate somebody, which means, okay, they got a good program.
But in the same breath, and I'm speaking now as
an alumnus supporter, commentator. Whatever, This is not the old
Prairie view. This is a new era. This is that,
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and that is this. Okay, that's fine, that's fine, and
I'll take all that and I deal with all that.
But I was born and raised in Saint Louis, Missouri,
and Missouri is known to be this show me state
and don't tell me. And I'm not saying coach is
saying that, but people are saying, well, you know, we
just got these guys together, we got seventy three new
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player Well, UTRV had the same new player concept. You
go down here to Rice, and I was expecting a
better turnaround for Rice, but then Rice runs this wishbone,
I mean not the wish on the triple options. Totally
different concept, totally different preparation, and let the truth be told, coach,
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a total different toughness necessary to compete in a game
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So the thing about going to a game like a Rice,
you as a coach, and I've always been told you
practice option throughout the season, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You don't take away from your game plan.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's something that say, Okay, we see this, we're gonna
we're gonna go dive quarterback pits even again, what we
call double option on tripa zone read is double option
football zone where he may throw a pass off of
it to a flat. That's triple option football. So you
still practicing against the option. But what Rice did? They
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run it different than everybody else that you're gonna play
because they gonna have a motion guy, a puller. And
the thing about this game, and I'm calling the game
and I'm seeing it and the mistackles. If you go
back and calculate how many yards after mistackle, Rice probably
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may have gained one. I'm gonna say one half of
the yards after mistackle minus the long run on the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
But it's just that getting guys to the ground is
one thing.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The physicalness of it. You or sometimes if you play
two very physical teams back to back that second game,
you may play better because, like you say, you still
got some scaps from last week that hadn't held up.
And a lot of times guys are played a little
bit better if they know they're going against either some
bigger guys or you know, some things. And I was
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amazed and it totally off sudden, but man, Rice played
that whole football game, and they give you one holding
finish to call against him on offense, and I just
thought that was that was they say that befuddled me
because I saw some guys get canceled out there.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But we know what's some home cooking. We know what
some home cooking going up, hey man. But that's to
be expected, though, coach.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But it goes back to the style of play. So
their style of play lets them play a little bit
more physical because that's what they do. And when you
don't when we get this label as being for net
but you know, we still run some power.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
We run zon.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know we're getting that getting that inside put down
on the double team, and it's a it's just sometimes,
like I said, I don't know, man, it's just not
translating where I know what the guys been. Like I said,
I've been looking enough to go watch some practice and
I watch and see what they're being.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Taught in some kind of way.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sometimes things get lost in translation, and then things get
lost in in the toughness part of just being a
football player, doing your job and doing the small things right,
like you say, the ante mosquitoes that will lead to
everybody else being successful. If they's response with taking the
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dive take the dive and they give the dive, then
that's the end of the play. But they were stretching
it out so good sometimes and then the guy that's
responsible for the quarterback don't make the tackle and he
gains another ten or twelve yard. That was disheartening to
me being a former defensive coach, knowing that the guys
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are in place to make a play and they not
make that play. And then I say, I've been on
that side where it's like, as a coach, you think,
what more can I do besides just go.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Out there and tackle every day at practice.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Then when you start tackling every day and practicing, guys
start getting hurt. Then they gonna start saying, well, what
is coach doing? We getting all these guys injured and
stuff like that. And I've been on that side where
people will either email or call or complain some type
of way, say, well, highest coach norton getting these guys
hurt and practice and don't know that a guy mayl
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stepped on the sprinkle sprinkle of honest guard truth and
broke his leg. Old guy towards ACL and pregame warm up,
you know, just different things like that that happened that
people don't know about. So it's almost a damn if
you do, damn if you don't. But I think the
preview players are gonna have to take it upon themselves
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and say, hey, man, whatever I do, I gotta get
this guy to the ground. I don't have to be
a killer, but I simply have to get him to
the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, coach, you know, And once again my relican's about
to pop up in an old defensive player myself.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, wrap up, just I mean wrap up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You want to go for the big boom, wrap up
and hold them to somebody, hold on for dear life
until you get some help.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But you know what, I don't think that's the issue
with a lot of guys. And I'm just talking about
across the board and not just prayer.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think a lot of it is the difference in
the guys running the four. I'm gonna say a four
to six and a four seven four eight is a
lot of times while we not finishing because we end
up diving instead of if you had a speed to
run and step on guys toes. It's a different tackle
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that's being made up when you run an option. What
they're trying to do is get one on one and
right quarterbacks fast. I don't know what, but sometimes you
know you're thinking either they not wrapping up or they diving,
but they diving because they not fasten us. So that's
how it becomes a speed issue.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then some of it is just the not the
proper technique on the tackles. You'll see guys that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Are rapped, so it may be the head is behind
or they not strong enough to what we call vice
the leg, get around the leg and squeeze alligator role.
It's just small stuff like that that I think players
are gonna have to fix. And then some of it,
you know, from a coaching standpoint, it's like, man, like
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I say, once again, you're putting a guy in place,
it's gonna it's gonna boil down to a recruits if
you if guys are in place and not making the play,
then what.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Do you do as a coach? Right?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well, it leads us back and like this is not
a finger point, it's just observation. Uh, Coach Tremaine Jackson,
if for a better turn, came in with his mega horn.
You know, ABC EFG whatever we got, Uh, this is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Not the old Prairie View and part of the wine in.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Atlanta, here we come and all this where and how
if your coach and I'm not saying you're coach Jackson,
but you've been in a coaching head coaching position on
this level, what do you say in real talk to
yourself and to your program?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Right now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Shutting the outside out because it is what it is
on that part where do you write this wrong? To
get back on course? Is the glass half empty or
is it half full? And don't want to hit panic
it because oh look up, ding dong, here comes another
South from the opponent this week.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, as a coach, you trying to go one and
know for the week.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So number one, you got to be true to yourself
and then two you have to be true to your team.
And some people will say vice versa, but I'll put
it like this, and I know he would never say this.
And the fans don't want to hit, but their goals
are still in front of it. They win this Northwestern
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State game, fix a lot of issues whatever they think
they have to fix, fix a few issues here.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And there, and win this game. Then go to and
on the swag and then go on the runs.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Man, people gonna forget about the RGV loss until next
year until you play on. Whenever you play them again,
they gonna forget about the rights loss because they got
they say a lot of it just getting hot at
the right time, getting on the road and figuring things out.
You know, it's a winning is a lot harder than
people think it is. You know, they just figure you know,
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we prayer were on paper. We got these numbers up,
we grambling. This was our recruiting ranking nine. It's more
than that.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's gotta be some luck involved too.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
When you're talking about winning some of these games. A
lucky bounce, just say the Texas Southern game, you go
back to the ball hitting off the Texas sub guy,
they had nothing to do with the play, Perey recover
the ball and they go in to score the first touchdown.
So you're gonna have to have some things like that
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happened throughout the season and you might not even look
at that players a big play that happened in the
first quarter of a game, but at the end of
the day, that can be the play that spurred you on.
Like sometimes it might be a block punt or something
like that, a big kickoff return. And then when you
start getting those big plays like that, then other things
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gonna start. You're gonna be like, man, how you know
almost like how do we go on this street? Who
made a play here? What unsung hero popped up? What
guy that we were expecting big plays from that we
were not getting from low and behold all of a sudden,
you know, he looking like the second coming.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
To Jed Rice out there, wide receiver or one.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Your offensive line really get hot and they begging you
to run the ball behind him on fourth and two,
and you run behind him and you convert.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So you know, everything that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Praid you set besides going undefeated, it's still in front
of it. You know, say a team will get hot
and make a believe out of some folks.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yes this, I know that much right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh and and he's got to be especially at this
point of the game because if he tuch.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Tail now then remember h huh, yeah, what this is? This?
That and the other? You know, so he's gotta he's
gotta he flex it, if you allow me to say
it that way.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
The only thing I hate about it is I'm thinking
about coach Dorset. They used to laugh at him. He
line up with that hard hat on to lead the pencils.
I charge, Okay, sometimes just put the hard hat on
and go to work. You ain't got to say that
you're in town. Let them discover you in town. That's
you to put that work in. But that's that's a
whole different approach and philosophy when when we when we
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look at this north Western game, like I stated, it's important,
but not as important and I don't want to but what.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Do you mean, man, you are or you're not. Yeah,
you gotta win, you want to win.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But coach, this game is a setup for a very
cruit and I'm not overlooking the demons at all because
I believe the parents shouldn't win, but they're gonna have
their hands for But man, this is setting up something
drastic for the next week at the State Fair classes.
Because Gramblings has a byeweek, they're gonna be I would assume,
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in a little bit of position with Coach Joseph, because
the truth be told, Grambling is still trying to get
some things together on their end of the spectrum and
perview is still kind of in this haze, not enough
for reflection on the purple haze days. If that sounds
(31:54):
for me to you. But there's this haze that we're
still trying to discover who we are.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And that's to be expected.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
When you're dealing with how many guys they had come in,
you're dealing with a new coaching staff, and it's not
like either one of the coordinators stayed from the previous staff.
So if you had some of that continuity, and then
you're going from a three man slash four two five
(32:25):
to a three three stack, that's totally different philosophis. So
even for some of the guys that may have been there,
either came with coach from Valdosta, they may be either
change a little bit of the terminology to make it
easy for some of the guys that are already here coming.
It's just small things like that that you expect as
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people say some growing pains. I think people just assume that, hey, man,
we got us a great coach, we got good facilities
on paper, we had some good players.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Man, we're gonna have an outstanding team.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And like I say, as a coach, you think, man,
if I put my best so forward, I can get
these guys. Just say, I think Prairie finish five and
six last year Okay, coaching and discipline alone gonna give
you three wins. That's what a lot of people say.
They might not admit to saying it. But a new
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coach gonna say coaching and this one gonna get me
three more wins than whatever they had last year, despite
what I have, and that that can happen in somethens.
But you know, the biggest thing once they figure out
a few things, who they playmakers are on the offensive
side of the ball, What two or three running plays
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we can hang our hats on, can we get the
ball to the right guy in the right situation, or
just say, if coach calls a play, I'm gonna say
I noticed this right as playing what we caused flittfield defense.
The middle of the field was wide open, and a
couple of times preview here them right down the middle
against that defense. Well, a couple of times the receiver
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that should have been working the middle didn't get by
the wall guy. That means the guy that's trying to
keep him from getting to the middle of the field.
So now the quarterback now has to hold on to
the football and then end up scramming.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So it's just small things.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Like who can who can't get over for us who
can win a one on one.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's just now, I'm sorry, but that's a zone attack, right,
That's a zone attack.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And part of the adjusting is.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
The thing about a zone You're gonna always have some
gaps somewhere. And with that, and you help me case
you the defensive Google expert. In a cover two approach,
the middle is gonna always be I'm not gonna say
seventy five that's where you attack a cover two because
they taken away the sides and the deep and so
(34:54):
you got that middle. And it seems like the adjusting
you got and just just just a fact, you got
six more coaches than any coaching staff has ever had,
has ever had. Isn't that something that that could and
should be addressed. I know it's about coaches that do
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point out way, man attack here, attack here, But at
some point the player got to take accountability, responsibility and execute.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And so that's that goes back to what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So either you have to find way if you that
flight receiver, do our do I lean in on them
and then get buy them and then then or do
our fake outside and come underneath and some you know,
depending on how the route is called. The coach may
tell you don't go inside early or get by him
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beat them with speed. So it's different ways to beat
I'll say zone. But some people in that zone defense,
it's a what we call a matchup zone or you
you call it cab. You're in a guy up the
field a little bit and if they carry a little
bit further, then it's gonna cause the quarterback to hold
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on to the ball. And I think one thing that
Rice did whenever Prairie did try to hear what we
call a check down, they did a good job of
coming up and making a tackle on the running back
or the flat receiver. Like I say, almost immediately because
because they in zone and they can see the throw
for the most part. But uh, like you say, man,
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I really do think they gonna figure it out. And
you know, whether they become more of a ground and
pound or more a physical team, more of a space
and concept passing game team. Uh you know, maybe some
more RPOs where they throwing the ball to the edges quicker,
a lot of things like that. And then another thing,
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and this is all across the board in the conference.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Our receivers are.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Not blocking that well, especially without getting holding penalties, because
I saw, you know, maybe a couple of times, you know,
they throw what we call look screen, and those look
screens for Rice would end up being eight yards.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A look screen for us might.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
End up giving us two or three because we're not
blocking properly. I'm not saying properly, but just the you know,
usually your body to read making one guy miss. Those
types of things are not happening for Privy right now.
And then once they start happening, you know, coach can
call the same play and get totally different results out
(37:31):
of there out versus the same look and get totally
different results.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But I think that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The guys are gonna start realizing, like, hey man, sometimes
some of this is on us as players and not
us as coach, But they gonna have they gonna take
the responsibility because I think they gonna see how good
they can be if they just not do something. Make
sure other they just do what you're supposed to do,
and be the football player that you think you are,
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not the one that they say you are. Be the
one that you think.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You are, right And it goes back to that philosphy again,
it's about the players executed I don't care who the
coach is coach, because like you say, the coach can
call the same plays and he can look like the
class clown or he can look like I'm sure, or
he can look like a genius, right and he's kind
of been there before.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And you know what, And like I say, man, I
laugh when.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I see certain people at preview games, you know, some
of the ones that and like say, it looks like
it's always the women would a little bit more season.
I'm not gonna say the older women, but it with
a little bit more season and life experience. They'll say
anything to you as a coach, but it's just you know, man,
you know they talk about adjustments and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Man, sometimes it's.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Just hey, man, when we throw you the ball, catch it,
turn or feel and make a play and it's a
simple and we call a run and play you block,
you read that, guy, But and make it plays simple
as that. It is not We're not reinventing a whole
lot of plays, or we not reinventing black and schemes.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's just sometimes jog's got a bucket down and.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I had an old football coach named James Ford.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
He said, I don't care where you go. I don't
care who you play.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I don't care if you're paid or if you're playing
for the love football.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's going to be down to the base, running, tackling,
throwing and catch. That's what it go.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
You gotta add blocking in there too. That black more
important than all.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That, right, I'm just saying, but whatever, it's about executing.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You're saying whether Now, I got a couple more questions
for this week, coach, and I'll let me go here.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
First, you've seen Purview now for.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Two weeks because your brother did a phenomenal job in
your absence.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Does for if you have a quarterbacking problem?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Man, they always say if you got two, you got
a problem. But I think both of them bring different,
different but very similar dynamics. I think part of the
problem is it's just a percentage. You like for them
to complete a higher percentage of their past and you'll
see them sometimes they'll get in a rhythm and you're like,
(40:31):
oh man, that's great, and in other times we're not
making an easy throw and listening to what sort of
seeing what were they trying to do? It almost seemed
like a little bit of the time was off. You know,
quarterbacks eyes may be in the wrong place, but I
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think both of them can be very successful if if
they make the basic throw, the easy throws, and maybe
not hold on to the ball as long. And a
lot of it goes back to footwork. If you say
both of those guys to me have I would say
B plus arms. And sometimes when you have a B
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up on, your footwork is probably at a D level,
especially if you've been more athletic than everybody that you
played against. So I think part of that is just
cleaning up the footwork making the injury when when you
know they say, when you see certain concepts, you know, okay,
this ball ought to be out by now what we.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Call the staff. It's a go route with two quick
out routes.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
And if you look at the defense, you say, man,
that bass should go right to the tight end right now,
are on some of the bootlegs. If you're looking high
to low, well, I mean you're looking deep to short.
Sometimes get it to the shallow guy and get your completion.
So you see your numbers, you see you completed a pass.
And then I think the other thing that we're gonna
have to do and I'm saying we is turn some
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of those short those look screens in the big places
and make people run from sideline to sideline. But I
don't think like you say. I don't think they have
a quarterback. And problem is they gonna have to just
complete more pass and to put it on.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I'm gonna say a higher percentage of passes.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let me ask you this does from your observation, your
coaching experience, Uh, does one have an inside lane over
the other?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Now, because and like say, this is not me going
to practice every day. They're very so, very similar. It's
not like to say when I was there, we had
love like and Smiley that were we could ran. We
could have run two different offensive with those guys.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
What they do is very complementary of each other.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Now, one may be a little bit faster, one may
run with a little bit more power.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
But I think they are very similar.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And to me, because some people seem to think one
is way bigger than the other. But if you look
at them side by side, they very similar. I would
say they probably complimentary and speed wise. They gonna hurt
you in the running game, they not gonna necessarily kill you. So,
but I think they pretty much won versus other just
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sometimes you're just gonna have to play the hot hand.
But the only thing about it, if you quarterback in
that situation, what you hate to do to a quarterback
is you always gonna be looking over your shoulders, like, man,
if I don't complete this pass or we don't get
a first down, then I'm coming out the game. So
it almost may be better to whichever one.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Thought you have a You know what we would do
with Smiley if he wasn't started. We know the first
series of the second.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Quarter, Smiley coming in the game, and we can run
the same offense. But we may do a little bit
more power read with Smiley than we would do with Jerry,
And we may throw the ball a little bit more
vertically with Smiler than we would Jerry. But it's, uh,
you know, you don't have to change much with either
one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, that Smiley was a fullback with an arm, that's
throw a great ball.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But you know, you say, you're like say, and this
is me.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I've been to a couple of practice, but I have
to be honest with you, I hadn't been to a
practice since the reunion that they had. But you know,
I can't speak on a whole lot of stuff because
sometimes when you in the guts of practice or when you.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
On campus around guys a lot, you can tell.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who the team trends towards or who the team who
has the ear of the team. One may have it
a little bit more than the other. And it may
be work based off of workouts. You know, one guy
may be at workouts earlier on time, always encouraging. One
guy may come to work out and he may not
say anything anybody.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So it's like small things like that.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
A whole a team follow more than who's trying to
leave the team, right, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
We're talking with coach Northern on after further review, and
my final question for this week coach is simply this.
We know that college or athletics period is a copycat league,
right and we talk about styles making advice, We talk
(45:23):
about how rights running this triple option makes it unusually
just like your academy programs for the most part. With
the conference, the Southwest Athletic Conference being designed the way
it is, whether it's good, bad or ugly, whatever you
want to call it, players you have access to do
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you think we are busy trying to emulate other styles
that can quote unquote get people to the league, or
we should be more constructing programs on creating more wins
for our program, because when the dust settles, you're not
measured on how many guys you get to the pros.
(46:07):
You measured on how many wins and losses you have
on whether you get to keep feeding your family. And
do you think we need to start looking at the
style that we have in the case of Prairieview, let
me be exclusive with Prairie Views, with some of the
requirements academically and the players of accessibility. By the time
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we get to our tier, those players that are really
truly what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
For example, everybody wants that six to eight tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You might have a six two tackle, a very headstrong,
a smart kid. It can stick to it, but he's
not going to give you what you can get out
of this six eight frame. Do you then have to
adjust your style a to the players that you have
access to?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well, I think you have to set your goals for
what you're looking for as a as a coaching, as
a program. Realizing that I saw a sheet the other
day and it basically had the rankings of every college
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Division one college football playing team in the state of Texas,
and they went down to fifteen, and I was surprised
that some of the schools that were still not on
that list when it was talking about where kids want
to go to school.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So that's that's one thing. The dynamic of just maybe
saying adding in.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Some form of option in your program, I think it
would would help some schools more than it would other.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Because of the access of guys.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And then the thing you have to think about too
is like getting somebody from an option tree, which that
option tree is not very big anymore, and then still
being able to get good receivers and I'll say good
receivers to come to your school, because once people find
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out you run the option, receivers start looking at option
football like you never gonna pass the ball in the game.
But it can lead to you being wide open on
some occasions.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
But I just think, man, it's such a hard thing to.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Get people to realize how hard it is to get
access to certain kids, and then how hard it is
to get access to kids, especially if you're not giving
them a cost of living stipen some quote unquote nil
money which is not really nil money. You're just paying
a joke, but to come play for you different things
(48:54):
like that. So it's much harder when you say when
you have don't have access to kids, and then you
have kids that are coming your program, you develop them,
and then in a year or two they're gone, which
I'm almost like, if you're getting a certain amount of
money to go somewhere else, I'm fine with that, because
you go to school to make money or to get
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money eventual, So I'll be fine if you getting a
certain amount, but if you're not getting above and I'm
not gonna say what our cut off is, but if
you're not getting above a certain amount of money, then
you might as well stay and play where you're at.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's the way I look at it, Yes, sir, yes, sir, Well,
this is one of those to be continued, coach, and
we'll start again. The Panthers will be hosting the Northwestern
State Deemon six pm Central Time on the campus of
Prairie View. You can check that game out hit the
Helping Mic Broadcast Network with the Guru and Philip As.
(49:51):
They will be trying to break down some excess and
o's and call win and with that, Coach, I want
to give you some closing thoughts and comments as we
get ready to wrap up this week's second.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Hey man, I hope Prairierview have twenty two thousand people
like Rice or not. Mike Rice did because Rice, I
think they hit a typo or something. It might have
been two thousand, two hundred.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
At the game. Coach, it wasn't even two hundred. Man,
Come on, hey man, I'm trying to be nice, coach.
Come on, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I'm gonna send you a picture that I took from
the Prince box to one side and then I tried
to take one going down but.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
It was cut off a living.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
But I just hope the fans come out and support
this team in their efforts to win a uh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
An a big non conference game, because it's not a.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Small game in my opinion, it's a real big non
conference game, and people not I know what some people
gonna say, Oh, I'm saving my money for Dallas, you know,
the Praierview home of Labor Day Classic homecoming Dallas fans,
but they biggest support of Prairie football. But that's the
only three games that they go to, so I hope
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we don't do that. And like I said, I'm saying
we again, but I hope the people come out and
man really give the kids or the young men at
Prairie View somewhat of a home field advantage, because I mean,
for you to go and play a game and it's
no noise on third down when you're on defense, and
(51:25):
you can almost hear everything that the quarterback saying. You
can hear a snap count at a home game, I
think to me, and this is me disheartening because I
know what it means to have the other team either
get some outside penantis or I know what it's like
to play at Jackson State or Southern when and this
(51:46):
is a two outdoor stadiums that you can't hear on
the headset without the band playing because the crowd is
chain you know, JSU or defense, JAG defense or something
along nose lines. I think we gotta get that going
at Prairie That's just my honest opinion.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yes sir, yes, sir, you know.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
And I'm not gonna start because we'll be talking a
whole nother session, sir, but I will say this.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I will save this in closing. I think we got
guys that are soaking U huh hey, do me this favorite.
Don't don't say anything about coaching.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Leave.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Don't say that I'm no, because you know, I'm tired
of the word too. I'm tired that that work.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
But when you have jokers that would rather sit up
and watch uh ut or A and M at the
same time your school is on is playing and you'd
rather sit in front of the TV and watch them
than walk two hundred yards to the game for free,
(52:56):
that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But we'll talk about that next week. Coach, we talk
about that next because.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
We show gonna take some pictures of this camp with
this senduce this week, so we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Here is the guru.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
He's the football guy, Coach Northern. I'm the radio guy,
Doctor Mike Brince. Once again, thanking you guys so much
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Speaker 2 (53:37):
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Speaker 1 (53:38):
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the next time, you guys be blessed. We'll see you
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And welcome back to another production of After further review
with coach christ Norton, I am the radio guy, Doctor
Mike Prince, Coach Northern.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How you doing today, sir? Look, everything going fitty good
over here.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Uh. My wife's going out of town for work. So
it's just me and my daughter at the house for
a few days. So we'll see if we can survive,
uh without us without us getting into it about the smallest,
the pettiest of little things. But uh, you know, we
we we have a good back and forth and uh
(00:36):
with some human involved on both sides. So it's uh,
it's a great time to be over here.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Unfortunately, look like everybody that I cheer up except Graham
and dropped another football game over the weekend. So yeah, buddy,
we'll get back at it and see what we can
do this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay, Look, but before we go in front of the
house of your daughter daughter, I know she had a little,
a little injury last week.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Is she okay? Now, yeah, she's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
She So to be honest with she's in the concussion
protocols just like a football player would be. So she
has to go through everything that they would have to
go through. Uh, you know, light sensitivity, no headaches for
a couple of days without medication, and then she can
resume resume her normal activities. You know, she can flip
(01:24):
up and down the track of the sideline, but she
can't even do that, and she still goes to practice
and watch. But uh, you know, just one of those things.
Her doctor when she was younger, would tell us, make
that girl be a dancer. Don't let her do cheer
because she would saying on some Mondays she sees more
cheerleaders than she do football players.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wow, it's it's a lot of physical requirement for that,
and we're just playing for health and recovery for a
little up now. Speaking of recovery, coach, it was, as
you mentioned, a rough week in the case, even in
some of the wins right weekend for the conference as
a whole, I'm surprised, and maybe you can help give
(02:12):
a little insight. Although they got to win, Sam, you
and Graham.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
A little bit more struggle than what I anticipated.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, I think what happens a lot of times as fans,
we have this we are such and such, they are them,
and we suhould beat them by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But that's not the reality of today's game.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Of football, especially when you had a lot of It
goes to matchups, especially if you have a team with
a pretty good quarterback, they can keep themselves in a
game and depending on what type of offense you run.
So that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you don't get to keep a team.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Together like you used to, where guys know what the
other guy's going I know how just say, if I
call my base zebra, I know this guy's gonna be
right here, and a new guy may not play it
the same way one guy does. Or you know, if
I'm playing linebacker, what the defensive end. I know this
defensive end he gonna spell it to me, and that
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means make the ball go outside. And if he doesn't
make it go outside, now two people have to adjust
instead of one. So it's that playing with each other
type of stuff is long gone where all guy's been
in the same system for a couple years now. It's
almost junior college football to me. But it's as as
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a coach, you'll take them. You'll rather make corrections in
the win then you do a loss. I'll tell you
that much. Having lost some closed games and having been
on the winning side or some closed games, the corrections.
They hear you much better when you win. If you
lose that game, it's almost like they come into meeting
mad at you for calling the play and they didn't execute,
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they didn't make a tackle, and now they looking at
you like man, you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And like I say, man.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Sometimes and I hate to say, a player, but sometimes
it boils down the jokers just making a play.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And it don't have to be an outstand and play.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Just do your job and get the jokers to the ground.
If you're on defense, if you're on offense, make the
simple block or make the easy catch. Because if you
can do the simple things well, it'll lead to you making.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
A big play.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You don't have to make a big play if you
get where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
No, I got exactly where you're coming from. Like you said,
when the dust settles, there's a double edged sword. In
my viewpoint, these games count, but they don't count. They
matter what they don't matter. And I'm even been guilty
of song would say, trying to defend, and maybe you
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can answer this he and better. We know we're playing
to win the games, but we are also trying tuneing
certain things and schemes and concepts in some of these
games because you don't want to let the full gamut
of tricks available just yet, because you get to come
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to conference play games.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So significance.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, And some people go by that for las, we'll
hold something back for a conference play. But some people say, man,
put it out there and make them spend time preparing
for this. So I tell you this through when I
was coaching on a high school level, we would show
up to a game and the coach would say, Hey,
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let's show this team dive option. We had never seen
it or showed it on film. Let's make them go
back in the locker room before the game and talk
about how they gonna defend the options instead of talking
about how they gonna defend our power that we were
known for on our.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Sprints, draw different things like that. And you know my philosophy, Hey,
man put it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Out there if we needed, let's use it. Don't save anything.
So let's let's let's let's make our players. Let's win
the ball game. Almost like Malcolm X say, by any means.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Necessary, I do not understand that, sir. And with that,
like I said, it's a half empty, half full, depending
on how you're looking at it. So we know the
elephant in the room. You know, your boys played up
and I say your boys, I'm talking about seven played
up against Fresno States. Pretty much what we expected out
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of there, going there, collect your cash, come back home.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So there's not much gained or lost on that end.
Are there any.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Other games that are standing out to you last week
that had you kind of scratching your head like I
wasn't expected that from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Them now everything sort of like say Chalkhill. For the
most part, I thought the Jackson Tuskeiger game would be
a little bit closer, to be honest with you, because
I know, you know touskeg had has this brand about themselves.
Jackson State wasn't playing with their starting quarterback. Hey man,
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that dog on Jackson State could beat you up.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Them Ice Stuggs probably was full at Tuskega. The hoss
cross or whatever they used to h to get ready
for the next week game and get their sorters out
was definitely in effect on the Tuskegee campus.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And the man then them jokes could beat you up. Man.
That's that's the the easiest way to say it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
When when they can pound the rock and make plays.
The defense made some big plays for him. Uh but
I really expected a closer game from the Tuskegee Tea PA.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But Jackson did as expected.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But and I think people because the way Jackson had
been winning what they're known for, they may be a
little bit disappointed because they not scoring for their fit
the points a game. But when you can control the clock,
control tempo, run the ball when you won't almost throw
the ball when you have to, which they not really
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forced to throw the ball, they can pretty much use
their play action passing game and you know, take shots
when they want to do what we call the flood concept.
Out the play action, get the ball, make some easy
throws for a quarterback, can get his confidence up. But
I mean they they shown why they're the champions and
why they predicted.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The win on that side, and you know, everybody else
was pretty much as as expected.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And to be honest with you, I guess moving forward
a little bit, I thought the Praierview game would be
a little bit closer because I thought that Praierview would
be able to make rights have to throw the ball,
but the tackling on the praierview side, I think if
you talk to them as a man, they would say
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they're tackling, let them down. And then their inability to
able to run the ball was a little bit surprising,
I would say, because of what they went through with
the RGV game. You know you're gonna focus on trying
to establish the run.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But it was it was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It was not to be for the Panthers on the
offensive line side, and a lot of times we always
blame our offensive line for not being able to run,
but sometimes you have to add into it the tight end,
the full back and even sometimes the wide receivers have
to make a plus in the running game to get
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to get it going. It has to be it's not
just the five guys that's that's supposed to be blocking.
It's everybody adding to the gumbo.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
As we say, yeah, well we're gonna address that in
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I want to touch back to Jackson State and then
add a game that I thought was a pleasant surprise.
Even though they lost up Jackson Pitton shutout coach.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, and now.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They didn't score a quote unquote but thirty points, but
they did well enough.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And like you said, they showed dominance.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
In that game, and they showed what a team of
great expectations and high quality execute even if they're not
scoring sixty to fifty points.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The game and the team that impressed me in a
loss was beforem Cookness. It was a shootout fifty five
forty one, but I was impressed on their ability to
move the ball even though they gave up fifty five points.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, and you'll have a game like that from I'm
not gonna say certain schools, but every now and then
a quarterback er get hot, a receiver have an unstoppable game.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But you can expect that every now and then. But
the key to it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Now is can they do that on a consistent basis
and put some pressure.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
On some people? Right right? Right, Well, we'll see how
they come out.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
If I'm not mistaken, I think they're metched up against
Alabama A and M this week. But then I got
a huge disappointment for me. Then that was Texas Southern
at home against Lamar. I know Lamar came in ranked
twenty fourth, but to me, that was the decept of
twenty fourth and the FCS ranking I'm I'm expecting more
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out of Texas sothering. Maybe that's shame on me, but
there are grumblings now coming out that they're single pointing
going on in the camp.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Folks went through that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Hey, if you don't want to do it like I
want it done, there's the door. And we still still early.
But once again, it goes back to the pressure and
the impact of that first game at the gate, which
a rival in a conference game.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And you come up short on that game, well, you
know we used to have this. Then you can't that
certain teams beat you twice.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, they went to calv and honestly played better
against Calves than they did against Lamar. And it goes
back to what I used to say sometime, if you
know you're going to just say you're going to a
different neighborhood and you know we're gonna be playing against
these guys and they may be a little rough off,
you know, you gotta fight coming up, and you're fighting
somebody that's known for having a good hand game, then
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you're gonna prepare yourself a little bit different. I think
sometime and then sometimes I said it goes back to
the matchup that can cause some is, but I have
no idea they letting the praiview.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Game beat them more than once, as I alluded to early.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But sometimes, and I'll go back to my playing days
now as a player, when I was in school, we
went three and zero against Northwestern State during that time
when I was in school, But I want to say
we may have been one and three against Nichols and
our only loss was to a Nickels.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Team that we were there only win.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But like I say, sometimes it's the matchup, and sometimes
it's the mentality of playing against certain schools, and I
think sometimes we get caught up on things that don't
have anything to do with the game from a either
a coaching aspect or a player aspect, and that's gonna
lead you down the wrong path sometimes. But you know,
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talent wise, I would like to think that those guys
think they are better, But sometimes it's just the mentality
that it is. I mean, just getting past that roadblock
or some of the out of conference games can be
I would say, annoying to some people, and it can
be distracting to some people. And I'm not just talking
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about the coaches. I'm talking about you know, the players,
the fans because we all want to have a better
output than what we're having in our non comfort schedule.
But and I, if I could just put a finger
on exactly what it is, it'll be a couple of
things that I would say, this is why we're struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
With our non comas. Well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, I'm a I'm an addresser to style versus fights
or styles makeup fights. But which leads me now to
the Prairieview Rice game. Okay, a disappointing loss for Prairieview.
And let me well, I'll just let me get this
out the way. First, Coach, they announced twenty two thousand
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people in attendance.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
At that game. Adam, my.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Look, and excuse me for calling you might but if
they had twenty two thousand people at that game, I
don't they must have all been in the foy you look.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And this, this was disappointed to me, and I should
not be disappointed. But when I arrived at that game, truth,
I didn't see one barbecue pitt on both sides of
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I didn't see one ballpie. You know where I'm from.
We gonna ball, We gonna ball some neck bones Turkey
Necks t.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hold the game. God on this true. I did not
see any of that, even from the rights fans, the
players families on the praier view side, which I had
to go to the visiting side of the States.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm looking for a tail game.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I'm like, man, I'm gonna find somebody with a good
chicken wing, a good hot dog, a good Solda because
I don't drink before I do the game.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You know, I was sorely disappointed and be attendant. And
I tell you this one more thing. I talked to
somebody that work with the football team team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
At Prairiview, so I say, hey, are you going to
the game today? They didn't even know Praiview had a game.
Less more, that made it more disappointed. They didn't know
Praierview was playing in Houston. And it's somebody that was
involved with the football team at Praiview and the university.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was disappointed in that, and it hurts.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Me even to think about the empathy of what's going
on with the program. And it's not anything.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I'm gonna say it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
This is not a coaching issue.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I would say a fan or supporter issue. I guarantee,
if you take everybody from Prairieview that was at that game,
they might have had more people in Praiview.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Band than it had fans at that game.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Everybody from Prairie could have said in one section and
to me, I didn't go to school there, but I
feel like I'm a part of that university. That was
disappointing to me to see that few people show up
to that football game and support their school, their team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And I think our school our team because I get.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
The money to prayer View at the beginning of the
semester so my son can attend school with them.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And not only that on Prairie View, but as Rice
as a quote unquote FBS program. Here, these folks were
being flirting about potentially going to the PAC twelve. Even
with the PAC twelve in this rebuilding phase. That's disappointing
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all the way around. But brother being say, that's all
I want to harp on is attendance. But attendance makes
a difference. I don't care when no one said it,
because how can we boast it. We're the number one
FCS attendant program and we're having what we're having. But
even though that was a road game, it should have
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been a home presence. And I still revert back to
when we're at home. It's not where it should be
at home. But I'm not gonna even focus on that.
You said something that was very key about the program.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is it panic time?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yet on the hill with where we're standing right now,
I think that you can you can you know, validate
or or correct that was still some bumps and bruises
from the UTR.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Game.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, you said you didn't think it was an upset.
I called it an upset. Then didn't think it was
an upset. I called it an upset. I know about
the portal, I know about the nil stuff. But still
coach and they yeah, they had time to uh practice
and all that. These folks had never played an CS game, period,
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and they beat you at home. Okay, it was closed,
But if the truth be told, they were very physical and.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
They did what they had to do to win on
the road.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And then the following week they go out and just
just annihilate somebody, which means, okay, they got a good program.
But in the same breath, and I'm speaking now as
an alumnus supporter, commentator. Whatever, This is not the old
Prairie view. This is a new era. This is that,
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and that is this. Okay, that's fine, that's fine, and
I'll take all that and I deal with all that.
But I was born and raised in Saint Louis, Missouri,
and Missouri is known to be this show me state
and don't tell me. And I'm not saying coach is
saying that, but people are saying, well, you know, we
just got these guys together, we got seventy three new
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player Well, UTRV had the same new player concept. You
go down here to Rice, and I was expecting a
better turnaround for Rice, but then Rice runs this wishbone,
I mean not the wish on the triple options. Totally
different concept, totally different preparation, and let the truth be told, coach,
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a total different toughness necessary to compete in a game
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So the thing about going to a game like a Rice,
you as a coach, and I've always been told you
practice option throughout the season, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You don't take away from your game plan.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's something that say, Okay, we see this, we're gonna
we're gonna go dive quarterback pits even again, what we
call double option on tripa zone read is double option
football zone where he may throw a pass off of
it to a flat. That's triple option football. So you
still practicing against the option. But what Rice did? They
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run it different than everybody else that you're gonna play
because they gonna have a motion guy, a puller. And
the thing about this game, and I'm calling the game
and I'm seeing it and the mistackles. If you go
back and calculate how many yards after mistackle, Rice probably
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may have gained one. I'm gonna say one half of
the yards after mistackle minus the long run on the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
But it's just that getting guys to the ground is
one thing.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
The physicalness of it. You or sometimes if you play
two very physical teams back to back that second game,
you may play better because, like you say, you still
got some scaps from last week that hadn't held up.
And a lot of times guys are played a little
bit better if they know they're going against either some
bigger guys or you know, some things. And I was
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amazed and it totally off sudden, but man, Rice played
that whole football game, and they give you one holding
finish to call against him on offense, and I just
thought that was that was they say that befuddled me
because I saw some guys get canceled out there.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But we know what's some home cooking. We know what
some home cooking going up, hey man. But that's to
be expected, though, coach.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But it goes back to the style of play. So
their style of play lets them play a little bit
more physical because that's what they do. And when you
don't when we get this label as being for net
but you know, we still run some power.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
We run zon.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know we're getting that getting that inside put down
on the double team, and it's a it's just sometimes,
like I said, I don't know, man, it's just not
translating where I know what the guys been. Like I said,
I've been looking enough to go watch some practice and
I watch and see what they're being.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Taught in some kind of way.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sometimes things get lost in translation, and then things get
lost in in the toughness part of just being a
football player, doing your job and doing the small things right,
like you say, the ante mosquitoes that will lead to
everybody else being successful. If they's response with taking the
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dive take the dive and they give the dive, then
that's the end of the play. But they were stretching
it out so good sometimes and then the guy that's
responsible for the quarterback don't make the tackle and he
gains another ten or twelve yard. That was disheartening to
me being a former defensive coach, knowing that the guys
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are in place to make a play and they not
make that play. And then I say, I've been on
that side where it's like, as a coach, you think,
what more can I do besides just go.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Out there and tackle every day at practice.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Then when you start tackling every day and practicing, guys
start getting hurt. Then they gonna start saying, well, what
is coach doing? We getting all these guys injured and
stuff like that. And I've been on that side where
people will either email or call or complain some type
of way, say, well, highest coach norton getting these guys
hurt and practice and don't know that a guy mayl
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stepped on the sprinkle sprinkle of honest guard truth and
broke his leg. Old guy towards ACL and pregame warm up,
you know, just different things like that that happened that
people don't know about. So it's almost a damn if
you do, damn if you don't. But I think the
preview players are gonna have to take it upon themselves
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and say, hey, man, whatever I do, I gotta get
this guy to the ground. I don't have to be
a killer, but I simply have to get him to
the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, coach, you know, And once again my relican's about
to pop up in an old defensive player myself.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, wrap up, just I mean wrap up.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You want to go for the big boom, wrap up
and hold them to somebody, hold on for dear life
until you get some help.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
But you know what, I don't think that's the issue
with a lot of guys. And I'm just talking about
across the board and not just prayer.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think a lot of it is the difference in
the guys running the four. I'm gonna say a four
to six and a four seven four eight is a
lot of times while we not finishing because we end
up diving instead of if you had a speed to
run and step on guys toes. It's a different tackle
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that's being made up when you run an option. What
they're trying to do is get one on one and
right quarterbacks fast. I don't know what, but sometimes you
know you're thinking either they not wrapping up or they diving,
but they diving because they not fasten us. So that's
how it becomes a speed issue.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then some of it is just the not the
proper technique on the tackles. You'll see guys that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Are rapped, so it may be the head is behind
or they not strong enough to what we call vice
the leg, get around the leg and squeeze alligator role.
It's just small stuff like that that I think players
are gonna have to fix. And then some of it,
you know, from a coaching standpoint, it's like, man, like
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I say, once again, you're putting a guy in place,
it's gonna it's gonna boil down to a recruits if
you if guys are in place and not making the play,
then what.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Do you do as a coach? Right?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Well, it leads us back and like this is not
a finger point, it's just observation. Uh, Coach Tremaine Jackson,
if for a better turn, came in with his mega horn.
You know, ABC EFG whatever we got, Uh, this is.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Not the old Prairie View and part of the wine in.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Atlanta, here we come and all this where and how
if your coach and I'm not saying you're coach Jackson,
but you've been in a coaching head coaching position on
this level, what do you say in real talk to
yourself and to your program?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Right now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Shutting the outside out because it is what it is
on that part where do you write this wrong? To
get back on course? Is the glass half empty or
is it half full? And don't want to hit panic
it because oh look up, ding dong, here comes another
South from the opponent this week.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, as a coach, you trying to go one and
know for the week.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So number one, you got to be true to yourself
and then two you have to be true to your team.
And some people will say vice versa, but I'll put
it like this, and I know he would never say this.
And the fans don't want to hit, but their goals
are still in front of it. They win this Northwestern
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State game, fix a lot of issues whatever they think
they have to fix, fix a few issues here.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And there, and win this game. Then go to and
on the swag and then go on the runs.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Man, people gonna forget about the RGV loss until next
year until you play on. Whenever you play them again,
they gonna forget about the rights loss because they got
they say a lot of it just getting hot at
the right time, getting on the road and figuring things out.
You know, it's a winning is a lot harder than
people think it is. You know, they just figure you know,
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we prayer were on paper. We got these numbers up,
we grambling. This was our recruiting ranking nine. It's more
than that.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's gotta be some luck involved too.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
When you're talking about winning some of these games. A
lucky bounce, just say the Texas Southern game, you go
back to the ball hitting off the Texas sub guy,
they had nothing to do with the play, Perey recover
the ball and they go in to score the first touchdown.
So you're gonna have to have some things like that
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happened throughout the season and you might not even look
at that players a big play that happened in the
first quarter of a game, but at the end of
the day, that can be the play that spurred you on.
Like sometimes it might be a block punt or something
like that, a big kickoff return. And then when you
start getting those big plays like that, then other things
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gonna start. You're gonna be like, man, how you know
almost like how do we go on this street? Who
made a play here? What unsung hero popped up? What
guy that we were expecting big plays from that we
were not getting from low and behold all of a sudden,
you know, he looking like the second coming.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
To Jed Rice out there, wide receiver or one.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Your offensive line really get hot and they begging you
to run the ball behind him on fourth and two,
and you run behind him and you convert.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So you know, everything that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Praid you set besides going undefeated, it's still in front
of it. You know, say a team will get hot
and make a believe out of some folks.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yes this, I know that much right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh and and he's got to be especially at this
point of the game because if he tuch.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Tail now then remember h huh, yeah, what this is? This?
That and the other? You know, so he's gotta he's
gotta he flex it, if you allow me to say
it that way.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
The only thing I hate about it is I'm thinking
about coach Dorset. They used to laugh at him. He
line up with that hard hat on to lead the pencils.
I charge, Okay, sometimes just put the hard hat on
and go to work. You ain't got to say that
you're in town. Let them discover you in town. That's
you to put that work in. But that's that's a
whole different approach and philosophy when when we when we
(30:53):
look at this north Western game, like I stated, it's important,
but not as important and I don't want to but what.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Do you mean, man, you are or you're not. Yeah,
you gotta win, you want to win.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But coach, this game is a setup for a very
cruit and I'm not overlooking the demons at all because
I believe the parents shouldn't win, but they're gonna have
their hands for But man, this is setting up something
drastic for the next week at the State Fair classes.
Because Gramblings has a byeweek, they're gonna be I would assume,
(31:33):
in a little bit of position with Coach Joseph, because
the truth be told, Grambling is still trying to get
some things together on their end of the spectrum and
perview is still kind of in this haze, not enough
for reflection on the purple haze days. If that sounds
(31:54):
for me to you. But there's this haze that we're
still trying to discover who we are.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And that's to be expected.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
When you're dealing with how many guys they had come in,
you're dealing with a new coaching staff, and it's not
like either one of the coordinators stayed from the previous staff.
So if you had some of that continuity, and then
you're going from a three man slash four two five
(32:25):
to a three three stack, that's totally different philosophis. So
even for some of the guys that may have been there,
either came with coach from Valdosta, they may be either
change a little bit of the terminology to make it
easy for some of the guys that are already here coming.
It's just small things like that that you expect as
(32:47):
people say some growing pains. I think people just assume that, hey, man,
we got us a great coach, we got good facilities
on paper, we had some good players.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Man, we're gonna have an outstanding team.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And like I say, as a coach, you think, man,
if I put my best so forward, I can get
these guys. Just say, I think Prairie finish five and
six last year Okay, coaching and discipline alone gonna give
you three wins. That's what a lot of people say.
They might not admit to saying it. But a new
(33:20):
coach gonna say coaching and this one gonna get me
three more wins than whatever they had last year, despite
what I have, and that that can happen in somethens.
But you know, the biggest thing once they figure out
a few things, who they playmakers are on the offensive
side of the ball, What two or three running plays
(33:41):
we can hang our hats on, can we get the
ball to the right guy in the right situation, or
just say, if coach calls a play, I'm gonna say
I noticed this right as playing what we caused flittfield defense.
The middle of the field was wide open, and a
couple of times preview here them right down the middle
against that defense. Well, a couple of times the receiver
(34:03):
that should have been working the middle didn't get by
the wall guy. That means the guy that's trying to
keep him from getting to the middle of the field.
So now the quarterback now has to hold on to
the football and then end up scramming.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So it's just small things.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Like who can who can't get over for us who
can win a one on one.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's just now, I'm sorry, but that's a zone attack, right,
That's a zone attack.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And part of the adjusting is.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
The thing about a zone You're gonna always have some
gaps somewhere. And with that, and you help me case
you the defensive Google expert. In a cover two approach,
the middle is gonna always be I'm not gonna say
seventy five that's where you attack a cover two because
they taken away the sides and the deep and so
(34:54):
you got that middle. And it seems like the adjusting
you got and just just just a fact, you got
six more coaches than any coaching staff has ever had,
has ever had. Isn't that something that that could and
should be addressed. I know it's about coaches that do
(35:15):
point out way, man attack here, attack here, But at
some point the player got to take accountability, responsibility and execute.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And so that's that goes back to what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So either you have to find way if you that
flight receiver, do our do I lean in on them
and then get buy them and then then or do
our fake outside and come underneath and some you know,
depending on how the route is called. The coach may
tell you don't go inside early or get by him
(35:47):
beat them with speed. So it's different ways to beat
I'll say zone. But some people in that zone defense,
it's a what we call a matchup zone or you
you call it cab. You're in a guy up the
field a little bit and if they carry a little
bit further, then it's gonna cause the quarterback to hold
(36:08):
on to the ball. And I think one thing that
Rice did whenever Prairie did try to hear what we
call a check down, they did a good job of
coming up and making a tackle on the running back
or the flat receiver. Like I say, almost immediately because
because they in zone and they can see the throw
for the most part. But uh, like you say, man,
(36:28):
I really do think they gonna figure it out. And
you know, whether they become more of a ground and
pound or more a physical team, more of a space
and concept passing game team. Uh you know, maybe some
more RPOs where they throwing the ball to the edges quicker,
a lot of things like that. And then another thing,
(36:50):
and this is all across the board in the conference.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Our receivers are.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Not blocking that well, especially without getting holding penalties, because
I saw, you know, maybe a couple of times, you know,
they throw what we call look screen, and those look
screens for Rice would end up being eight yards.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A look screen for us might.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
End up giving us two or three because we're not
blocking properly. I'm not saying properly, but just the you know,
usually your body to read making one guy miss. Those
types of things are not happening for Privy right now.
And then once they start happening, you know, coach can
call the same play and get totally different results out
(37:31):
of there out versus the same look and get totally
different results.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But I think that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The guys are gonna start realizing, like, hey man, sometimes
some of this is on us as players and not
us as coach, But they gonna have they gonna take
the responsibility because I think they gonna see how good
they can be if they just not do something. Make
sure other they just do what you're supposed to do,
and be the football player that you think you are,
(38:00):
not the one that they say you are. Be the
one that you think.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You are, right And it goes back to that philosphy again,
it's about the players executed I don't care who the
coach is coach, because like you say, the coach can
call the same plays and he can look like the
class clown or he can look like I'm sure, or
he can look like a genius, right and he's kind
of been there before.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And you know what, And like I say, man, I
laugh when.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I see certain people at preview games, you know, some
of the ones that and like say, it looks like
it's always the women would a little bit more season.
I'm not gonna say the older women, but it with
a little bit more season and life experience. They'll say
anything to you as a coach, but it's just you know, man,
you know they talk about adjustments and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Man, sometimes it's.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Just hey, man, when we throw you the ball, catch it,
turn or feel and make a play and it's a
simple and we call a run and play you block,
you read that, guy, But and make it plays simple
as that. It is not We're not reinventing a whole
lot of plays, or we not reinventing black and schemes.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It's just sometimes jog's got a bucket down and.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I had an old football coach named James Ford.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
He said, I don't care where you go. I don't
care who you play.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I don't care if you're paid or if you're playing
for the love football.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's going to be down to the base, running, tackling,
throwing and catch. That's what it go.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
You gotta add blocking in there too. That black more
important than all.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That, right, I'm just saying, but whatever, it's about executing.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You're saying whether Now, I got a couple more questions
for this week, coach, and I'll let me go here.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
First, you've seen Purview now for.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Two weeks because your brother did a phenomenal job in
your absence.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Does for if you have a quarterbacking problem?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Man, they always say if you got two, you got
a problem. But I think both of them bring different,
different but very similar dynamics. I think part of the
problem is it's just a percentage. You like for them
to complete a higher percentage of their past and you'll
see them sometimes they'll get in a rhythm and you're like,
(40:31):
oh man, that's great, and in other times we're not
making an easy throw and listening to what sort of
seeing what were they trying to do? It almost seemed
like a little bit of the time was off. You know,
quarterbacks eyes may be in the wrong place, but I
(40:52):
think both of them can be very successful if if
they make the basic throw, the easy throws, and maybe
not hold on to the ball as long. And a
lot of it goes back to footwork. If you say
both of those guys to me have I would say
B plus arms. And sometimes when you have a B
(41:16):
up on, your footwork is probably at a D level,
especially if you've been more athletic than everybody that you
played against. So I think part of that is just
cleaning up the footwork making the injury when when you
know they say, when you see certain concepts, you know, okay,
this ball ought to be out by now what we.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Call the staff. It's a go route with two quick
out routes.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
And if you look at the defense, you say, man,
that bass should go right to the tight end right now,
are on some of the bootlegs. If you're looking high
to low, well, I mean you're looking deep to short.
Sometimes get it to the shallow guy and get your completion.
So you see your numbers, you see you completed a pass.
And then I think the other thing that we're gonna
have to do and I'm saying we is turn some
(42:02):
of those short those look screens in the big places
and make people run from sideline to sideline. But I
don't think like you say. I don't think they have
a quarterback. And problem is they gonna have to just
complete more pass and to put it on.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I'm gonna say a higher percentage of passes.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let me ask you this does from your observation, your
coaching experience, Uh, does one have an inside lane over
the other?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Now, because and like say, this is not me going
to practice every day. They're very so, very similar. It's
not like to say when I was there, we had
love like and Smiley that were we could ran. We
could have run two different offensive with those guys.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
What they do is very complementary of each other.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Now, one may be a little bit faster, one may
run with a little bit more power.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
But I think they are very similar.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And to me, because some people seem to think one
is way bigger than the other. But if you look
at them side by side, they very similar. I would
say they probably complimentary and speed wise. They gonna hurt
you in the running game, they not gonna necessarily kill you. So,
but I think they pretty much won versus other just
(43:19):
sometimes you're just gonna have to play the hot hand.
But the only thing about it, if you quarterback in
that situation, what you hate to do to a quarterback
is you always gonna be looking over your shoulders, like, man,
if I don't complete this pass or we don't get
a first down, then I'm coming out the game. So
it almost may be better to whichever one.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Thought you have a You know what we would do
with Smiley if he wasn't started. We know the first
series of the second.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Quarter, Smiley coming in the game, and we can run
the same offense. But we may do a little bit
more power read with Smiley than we would do with Jerry,
And we may throw the ball a little bit more
vertically with Smiler than we would Jerry. But it's, uh,
you know, you don't have to change much with either
one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, that Smiley was a fullback with an arm, that's
throw a great ball.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
But you know, you say, you're like say, and this
is me.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I've been to a couple of practice, but I have
to be honest with you, I hadn't been to a
practice since the reunion that they had. But you know,
I can't speak on a whole lot of stuff because
sometimes when you in the guts of practice or when you.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
On campus around guys a lot, you can tell.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Who the team trends towards or who the team who
has the ear of the team. One may have it
a little bit more than the other. And it may
be work based off of workouts. You know, one guy
may be at workouts earlier on time, always encouraging. One
guy may come to work out and he may not
say anything anybody.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So it's like small things like that.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
A whole a team follow more than who's trying to
leave the team, right, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
We're talking with coach Northern on after further review, and
my final question for this week coach is simply this.
We know that college or athletics period is a copycat league,
right and we talk about styles making advice, We talk
(45:23):
about how rights running this triple option makes it unusually
just like your academy programs for the most part. With
the conference, the Southwest Athletic Conference being designed the way
it is, whether it's good, bad or ugly, whatever you
want to call it, players you have access to do
(45:47):
you think we are busy trying to emulate other styles
that can quote unquote get people to the league, or
we should be more constructing programs on creating more wins
for our program, because when the dust settles, you're not
measured on how many guys you get to the pros.
(46:07):
You measured on how many wins and losses you have
on whether you get to keep feeding your family. And
do you think we need to start looking at the
style that we have in the case of Prairieview, let
me be exclusive with Prairie Views, with some of the
requirements academically and the players of accessibility. By the time
(46:34):
we get to our tier, those players that are really
truly what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
For example, everybody wants that six to eight tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You might have a six two tackle, a very headstrong,
a smart kid. It can stick to it, but he's
not going to give you what you can get out
of this six eight frame. Do you then have to
adjust your style a to the players that you have
access to?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well, I think you have to set your goals for
what you're looking for as a as a coaching, as
a program. Realizing that I saw a sheet the other
day and it basically had the rankings of every college
(47:23):
Division one college football playing team in the state of Texas,
and they went down to fifteen, and I was surprised
that some of the schools that were still not on
that list when it was talking about where kids want
to go to school.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So that's that's one thing. The dynamic of just maybe
saying adding in.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Some form of option in your program, I think it
would would help some schools more than it would other.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Because of the access of guys.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And then the thing you have to think about too
is like getting somebody from an option tree, which that
option tree is not very big anymore, and then still
being able to get good receivers and I'll say good
receivers to come to your school, because once people find
(48:14):
out you run the option, receivers start looking at option
football like you never gonna pass the ball in the game.
But it can lead to you being wide open on
some occasions.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
But I just think, man, it's such a hard thing to.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Get people to realize how hard it is to get
access to certain kids, and then how hard it is
to get access to kids, especially if you're not giving
them a cost of living stipen some quote unquote nil
money which is not really nil money. You're just paying
a joke, but to come play for you different things
(48:54):
like that. So it's much harder when you say when
you have don't have access to kids, and then you
have kids that are coming your program, you develop them,
and then in a year or two they're gone, which
I'm almost like, if you're getting a certain amount of
money to go somewhere else, I'm fine with that, because
you go to school to make money or to get
(49:15):
money eventual, So I'll be fine if you getting a
certain amount, but if you're not getting above and I'm
not gonna say what our cut off is, but if
you're not getting above a certain amount of money, then
you might as well stay and play where you're at.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
That's the way I look at it, Yes, sir, yes, sir, Well,
this is one of those to be continued, coach, and
we'll start again. The Panthers will be hosting the Northwestern
State Deemon six pm Central Time on the campus of
Prairie View. You can check that game out hit the
Helping Mic Broadcast Network with the Guru and Philip As.
(49:51):
They will be trying to break down some excess and
o's and call win and with that, Coach, I want
to give you some closing thoughts and comments as we
get ready to wrap up this week's second.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Hey man, I hope Prairierview have twenty two thousand people
like Rice or not. Mike Rice did because Rice, I
think they hit a typo or something. It might have
been two thousand, two hundred.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
At the game. Coach, it wasn't even two hundred. Man,
Come on, hey man, I'm trying to be nice, coach.
Come on, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
I'm gonna send you a picture that I took from
the Prince box to one side and then I tried
to take one going down but.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
It was cut off a living.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
But I just hope the fans come out and support
this team in their efforts to win a uh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
An a big non conference game, because it's not a.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Small game in my opinion, it's a real big non
conference game, and people not I know what some people
gonna say, Oh, I'm saving my money for Dallas, you know,
the Praierview home of Labor Day Classic homecoming Dallas fans,
but they biggest support of Prairie football. But that's the
only three games that they go to, so I hope
(51:04):
we don't do that. And like I said, I'm saying
we again, but I hope the people come out and
man really give the kids or the young men at
Prairie View somewhat of a home field advantage, because I mean,
for you to go and play a game and it's
no noise on third down when you're on defense, and
(51:25):
you can almost hear everything that the quarterback saying. You
can hear a snap count at a home game, I
think to me, and this is me disheartening because I
know what it means to have the other team either
get some outside penantis or I know what it's like
to play at Jackson State or Southern when and this
(51:46):
is a two outdoor stadiums that you can't hear on
the headset without the band playing because the crowd is
chain you know, JSU or defense, JAG defense or something
along nose lines. I think we gotta get that going
at Prairie That's just my honest opinion.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yes sir, yes, sir, you know.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
And I'm not gonna start because we'll be talking a
whole nother session, sir, but I will say this.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I will save this in closing. I think we got
guys that are soaking U huh hey, do me this favorite.
Don't don't say anything about coaching.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Leave.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Don't say that I'm no, because you know, I'm tired
of the word too. I'm tired that that work.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
But when you have jokers that would rather sit up
and watch uh ut or A and M at the
same time your school is on is playing and you'd
rather sit in front of the TV and watch them
than walk two hundred yards to the game for free,
(52:56):
that's a problem.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But we'll talk about that next week. Coach, we talk
about that next because.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
We show gonna take some pictures of this camp with
this senduce this week, so we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Here is the guru.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
He's the football guy, Coach Northern. I'm the radio guy,
Doctor Mike Brince. Once again, thanking you guys so much
for joining in with us. Don't forget. You can follow
me on Twitter x at the Mike Prince Show, subscribe
to the YouTube channel with the Open Mic Broadcast Network.
Always check us out on our twenty four hour stream
at obnradio dot com. We do have that twenty four
(53:31):
hour message text line at nine three six four six
three two four zero five.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
I don't forget.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
You can check out the Panthers line right here at
the open Mic Broadcast Network through our YouTube channel at
open Mic Broadcast Network six pm Central Time, and until
the next time, you guys be blessed. We'll see you
on the other side.
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