October 2, 2025 • 54 mins
In today’s episode, Coach and I go to the chalkboard to break down play calls, schemes, and other behind-the-scenes aspects of football. We also recap the week that was throughout the conference and preview this week’s upcoming matchups. Serving the community through faith and athletics, the Open Mic Broadcast Network is proud to be the VOICE of student athletics.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome back to another episode of After further review,
we are joined by our football guru, himself, none other
than Coach Heist Lord and coach.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How you doing today, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, I'm finding dandy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, I made it up to the State Fair, Satan. Sound.
Look this the first time me and Adam took a
significant road trip, just me and him, and I let
him do a good bit of the driving, so I
think I might have slept for about a minute on
the ride. Olf. So look, I'm glad we made it.
(00:40):
But look, man, it his my wife's cousin. I said, say,
did some driving, you know, to and from the game,
because that's where we stayed while we were up there. Man, look,
he had me more scared than Adam did. We was good.
I had a chance to see his son play. They
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end up coming out victorious, and he made a couple
of big plays. Uh. He played that Wiley East High School,
Uh up there, and they were playing the school from
pretty closer.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So well, man, you know, you know, you know that's
Ben's family neck of the woods man Wiley, Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
His mom and dad meant it Wiley.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, yeah, man, Look well look I still hadn't seen
him yet. But if you make it down a home come, Look,
let's let's try to maybe plan a Sunday uh get
together because I know a lot of people may hang around,
maybe come by the house Sunday after homecoming. Look, I
know that's one of the few games that some people
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gonna come labor. They didn't happen the Dallastate fathom happened,
so homecoming might be the last game we see a
few folks. But I'm you know what, I'm saying it jokingly,
but I mean what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I do understand. Coach.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, I'm pretty sure he would take the inviting and
we can make sure that we have plenty of food
and snacks for the entertainment that could be and should be.
We'll try to make that happen. I promise you we'll
try to make that happen. Meanwhile, we had another interesting
week throughout the conference. The Panthers beat Gramley State, and
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let me say this, coach beat them convincingly. In my opinion,
I think this was the best performance overall for Prayview
to slight hiccup on the field goal attempt and everything,
but this was the best performance of the season for
the Panthers thus far. But then I put a slight
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caution to that because Gramley came in what I'm going
to call a week three and one.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Is it more of Purry View?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was that much better or Grammy wasn't as good as
we thought they were.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, So so I would say the score can be
deceived because if I'm and I tell you this, I
know prey offensive coaches definitely want to put up more
than seven points a quarter. And one of the touchdowns
came as a result of a bad snap over the
punter's head, and I think they got the ball maybe
around a twelve yarding. But as a coach, you take
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any points you can. You'll take it on the twelve
or the one because we have seen him go ninety
eight ninety nine yards and score the football. But the
thing years, you know, they had one ball that was dropped.
I think the kid lost it in the life, to
be honest with you, because it didn't hit his hands.
And you know, sometimes you will see a kid when
they start to look where they running before they finished
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the place. This one didn't even hit the kid's hands,
so it bounced off the shoulder pack. I think that's
one now that was gonna be a for sure touchdown.
The list of you know, something very fluke happen because
he was ten yards behind the defensive back. The other one,
I want to say, they had a fumble in the
red zone where Gramlin got the ball back at prairi
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View was about to score. So if you look at it,
that's fourteen points. Now Grandlin can say, well, we got
down there. Quarterbacks should have ran one end. You know,
it's a lot of you could if Ifson could have.
But at the end of the day, I think the
ground game from Prairiview travel well. Gramlin's ads attack didn't
travel well, and they ran the ball decently, but not
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as well as they wanted to. And I really think
in order to beat Prairieview you gotta stay out of
third and long, and sometimes even on second and long
you have to run the ball against that defense. That
was one thing like me and coach Orlando used to
talk about just second and long for Lotson, you gotta
have a good screen game. But Prairiviews defense was reacting
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very well I think except one time to Gramlin screen games,
but other than that, when they tried to throw some
of the slip screens. Even a defensive lineman was doing
what we call retracing their steps and making so that
lets you know the defense playing at a high clip
when you got defensive linemen recognizing screens and then put
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that foot in there and we say put your front
foot in the ground and then retrace your steps and
it'll take you right to where the screen is going.
So they did a good jobug. The other thing is
for all the people that was complaining about the skykicks,
you know, Grantland did have some pretty good kickoff returns. Again,
So like I said, I know that's something that you
know from a schematic standpoint or a we used to say,
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is either a scheme issue or a person there issue,
and you got to try to figure out which one.
How can you know? You definitely don't want it to
be a scheme issue. So if it's a person there issue,
you know, maybe do you have to put some starters
back on your kickoff team? And you know, for a
while that bread we had Adrian Hamilton running down on
kickoff or just say me when I played, I'm sorry,
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Like me and Coach Richardson had a deal where I
didn't have to play the best of themes the first half. No,
I would play best team the first quarter, the second quarter,
he would give me off, third quarter, he would give
me off. Fourth quarter. I had to go back on
punt team because I was the personal protector, and then
I would have to go back on kickoff depending on
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the score of the game. So you know, like they
may have to do some things, some creative ways to
insure up that kickoff.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Team right right right, And like I said, that was
the only hiccup that I saw. But now doesn't mean
I Prairie View is completely out of the water just yet.
To me, this game against all Corn is going to
say some year all Corn is down. Okay, but historically
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and this is not the old Prairie View, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The water to wine mantra. These days it's not the
old Prairie View. So then the state.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Games this week, you got to go down there and
force your wheel on all Coin. But easier shiit to done,
even though all Coin is struggling.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, So one of the things this was Doug Williams
will say to the guys, or should I say coach Dog,
He would say, every game you play, every next game
is the most important game of the seasons. Coach Fraze
would say that sentiment once we got to the point
where it looked like we were getting better. Every game
is the most important game. And sometimes it's hard to
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convince guys of that because they they schedule watching record
watch a little bit too. The coaches don't. But you know,
like I say, those are eighteen to twenty seven year
old guys for the most part, and they well, they
lost the Pine Bluff and Pine Bluff lost such and such,
and we beat you know, they try to put all
these scenarios together that you know may lead to some
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but like I say, every game they play from here
on out is going to be the biggest on the sketch.
Best if they say at first place, just say, for
instance of previews in first place, which they are right now,
everybody else is don't try to see ken they play
the spoiler row. Can we be the one that beat
them to knock them down, or can we get a
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tie break scenario where we hold the tiebreaker against them
if we get hot or something like that. You just
say a Southern team for example. I don't know who
they play next, but if they get hot, and win
a couple of games, and then them against privileges they
got to head to head one of those type of scenarios.
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So it's some different ways that people look at them,
but it's big from here on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Out, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And all Corn coming off they're twenty four to twenty
loss against Time Bluff. Have you had a chance to
look at what all Corn is bringing to the table
and where they might be struggling.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, I've seen them play. I saw them play against Northwest.
I'm trying to think what was the other game I
saw them play just a little. It might have been
a couple of series. But the thing that I see
with all cons you can tell a quarterback is talented.
He's a great thrower up the football, but he is
not a great pass And then sometimes when he throws
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good passes, it might be a little well we call a
little bit hot. Same thing with ground the quarterback. I
mean he was throwing ninety five miles pile fastballs when
he threw up should have been throwing some changeups in
the red zone area, like he's trying to fit in
the spaces, so he throws the libery harder. Then sometimes
on the deep ball the kid from all Corns. I
mean he overthrows guys like ten yards. I can see
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overthrowing a guy by a few yards, but ten yards
that's just to me unacceptable. But they strugged him from
that standpoint, then they know they can run the ball.
But can they run the ball when both teams know
that we about to see a run right here? I
think that's what hurt him against Northwestern State. They could
get you know, four yard full yards, and then when
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it came a third and two or thirty one, they
couldn't pick up that one yard. That's what I mean
by being able to run when both teams know this
about to be a run and player.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, okay, so am I hearing well?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't know if you are saying this, but you're
saying a strong run attack for all Coin could be
the key for them to be successful.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think anybody that's playing against Priview because because of
Previews past defense, which I said it was gonna be
a problem for people because you don't see that defense often.
You know, it's just like you're playing against the oppotion team.
You got a week to prepare for well, preparing for
Previews defense. It's gonna be a pain, especially if you're
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not a good passing team from the get go, because
of the way that they drop people, the way that
they bring pressure, the way that they show pressure, the
way they ed Presher with some guys with decent sized
and speed. I think that is gonna be a problem
for most teams. And I was telling somebody else that,
if you think about remember when coach Five's was at
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Gramlin and he had the defensive coordinator. I can't think
of his name, but I know he had ties to
the Wild era. I think his wife actually worked on
Privileuge campus for a long time. But he's currently coaching
at Southern. But he ran a three to three stack.
That's what I call a defense of some people call
it a three three five or whatever. He ran a
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very similar defense to a preview is running now, and
they gave people the blues because you didn't know which
safety was coming down. You didn't know which overhang was
gonna be the fourth guy and sometime the fifth guy.
And I go back to when I was a defen
car coordinator, we always said on first down, were probably
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gonna send five people. Now it's up to the offensive
coordinator for the other teams to figure out which five
are coming out? We bringing five with the middle? Uh, well,
I say, the fifth guy coming up the middle, or
we bring a fifth guy off the edge. Is the
fifth guy gonna be a cornerback or safety? Or are
the five guys gonna overload one side or the other.
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So when when you got what Prairiview has on defense?
And like I say, once I saw him at practice
one day, I'm like, Oh, it's gonna be some problems
because you don't see it well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But the three three stacking, like I said, it's just
a player on the words and it's gonna lead me
to a topic I gotta ask you about later on
to me, coach, you know, like I said, I'm not
the gourle, you the gurule, you understand. Uh, the three
three stack is really what a like a hybrid four
two five to me? To me because usually that third
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linebacker is a tweener between a linebacker and a strong safety,
you know, and he's fans enough and hits hard enough
that he becomes almost like that that that ace in
the hole if I can be creative with this dude,
So what makes that so difficult to adjust to?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Because of the way you line up, so a lot
of people, it depends on how you play your tackles.
Where they may call him tackles, I call him ends
the two guys that's over the offensive tackles. So if
you line them head up, you can sort of get
away with playing bigger guys that may not be the
best pass russers, but when what you can do it's best.
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I'm saying about ninety nine had it. He might not.
He's not gonna make a lot of plays, but he
makes the play that makes the play for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right, he's that club, but he's that He's the guy
does that dirty work that look what the wrong words
The linebackers, yeah and strong, shakey can't get their shine on.
That's why he doesn't. He don't have to be the fastest.
And that's why you give him an extra piece of
state when he comes through the line man, because he
looks really a he's a battle battle warrior.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Look, he might get eat the middle linebacker if he's
enough gonna make sure. He says, look, man, you can
have my dessert on these road trips. So whenever the
team meets, look, you have as long as you keep
me clean long as I can make ten or twelve
tackles game, yes, sure you can eat and they do
a good job. You know I can't, But it all
depends on the alignment. If you line up at four
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what we call four eyes, that mean head up on
the tackle, you can keep everybody clean. Almost. The other
thing is if you got some real good guys that
read can read the tackle block it's a tackle trying
to down block, or is what we call pass said.
If you got some guys their overhangs that can read
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it fast, then sometimes you don't know which of those
three safeties are coming down. So I played a three
three stacks, but I played mine with where Praiview has
their two overhangs. I brought mine in and I brought
my safeties down, so my and we did. There was
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a pressure package for us. We only played a few
coverages out of Prayerview can run it and they can
play way more coverages than what I did because of
their alignment with the three states. That's what gives people
the problems. You don't know if you got a guy
coming off the edge, you could send the mic back.
What I call the mic is the guy that's staying
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behind the nose. Ord you could send him, make him
the fourth guy. Then you can bring a safety down
and play cover two, regular cover two, or what they
call country cover two. You can play Campa what we
call Tampa behind that. So it's a lot of different coverages.
And you know what, and somewhat I would do this
with Adrian Hamilton, So I would let Adrians technically be
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the mic linebacker and he can tell the other defensive
linemens which way to go, and then he would rush
opposite them. So you can do a lot of different
things the way that they played, but I can say
it's two ways that most people played, true, and then
the way Prairieview plays it. It's a three high seal
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instead of a one high sale. That's the way most
people would explain.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If you're talking to a coach, right right, we're talking
with coach Heights Northern with after further review and the
different defensive looks in the Prairie Views a plan of attacks.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
For twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now, coach, we hear people sometimes they hear the talk
but don't know exactly what in the world is going on.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You hear the cover ones, the Cover two's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And all of that just in a in a flashing moment,
what is who, how and where are their assignments?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Just for the education of the people in the land.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So I'm gonna take you through cover one through five
in the easy way possible. Cover one means to most people,
if you're talking football, you're all playing man a man
coverage with one safety in the middle of the field.
So that is one way most people gon line up
different when they playing man than when they play zone.
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So if you see one safety in the middle of
the field, nine times out of ten they are playing
cover one. All cover three. So I'm a skip back
to two. So cover two means you have a safety
pretty much on each has and they are playing deep,
and then you have five men under you have your
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traditional three linebackers, and then you have your cornerbacks that
are trying to force everything back inside to those two safeties.
We call it funnel and drift the funnel and sift
the you know funnel, and if you get a vertical
then you're gonna seek. So it just depends on what
type of coach you're playing for. But the corners want
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to force the inside to the safety and if those
guys keep going with most people will say birth, then
they gonna sink a little bit, all right. Cover three
is zone is a zone defense, so you that means
you got three people deep. The corner's gonna take care
of everything deep outside the hatses pretty much. The free
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safety is gonna take care of everything deep in the
middle of the field. You know, I know the coaches
you say deepest, the deepest, and then they gonna break
on the football. Uh. And then you have your underneath people.
Two guys don't have curl of flat, then two guys
don't have hook the curl. That is Cover three, one
guy to the middle of field. But it is a
zone defense. Uh. Cover four means you have four guys deep.
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So the corners got deep outside the stations got deep
pretty much from the hats to the middle of the field.
And then you have three people underneath, which means now
your flats are gonna be over you. You're gonna take
care of the curl first, and then you're breaking late
on our throw. So you see cover four mostly laden
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games are on like second and twenty third and twenty
you'll see more cover fours. And then you tell you
guys make them throw it in front, then we'll rally
to the football and then Cover five to me or
some people, is a cover two, but it's more of
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a zone where if the inside receiver goes vertical, it
turns back in the cover fourth. You know, it's like,
if number two go vertical, then a cornerback is gonna
go vertical or get deep. If number two runs out,
then a cornerback can break on that and the safety
will take care of it. So that I put like that,
that's cover one through five, and another said a man
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two D three deep zone, Cover four its quarters and
cover five for most people is a is a red
cover two that can turn the quarters or if the
cover two that will stay covered two. But you're looking
at a receiver that's gonna tell you where.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
To go right and to me, I call that that
last from the lightweight tackers. Them guys are fast, but
they ain't gonna bring nobody down on the thunder.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They gonna need a bunch of gang tackling.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, they ran into the football and get there. Yes,
say that's that's wrong with getting ran over as long
as they don't get the first down.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I know that's right, so now, and it's it's so funny, man,
because the language of the game changes, but it's really
the same coach, because back in the day used to
have what they call a five to two, which is
but a three four and really and then your outside linebackers,
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you they're not the edge rushers, and you know, your
defensive ends are actually defensive tackles, and it is it's
just a play on words, which is kind of leading
me to the other topic, you know, and I know
it's about the gamesmanship and the different languages, the rhinos, hippos,
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the oma haws, the Oklahomas, and how do you select
your language of choice whenever you are and how what
made you base it on that? And why not just
keep it as plain as simple and just tell you
guys to go execute.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Look, man, so this is how my defense got so simple,
I thought, especially and I coached my very first year
of coaching, I was the defensive line coach, and I'm
gonna say we played a five to two for the
most part. Three of those kids were especially you know,
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they might not have had all you know, they didn't
stay in the same class all day. So I had
to figure out a way to make those guys line
up right. That was the first thing that led me
to making my defense simple. Now, mind you, I coached
running backs when I first got in college. I started coaching,
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so I worked at Grammar when Todd Bowles was the
defensive coordinator, but I coached on the offensive side of
the ball, and then we moved to defense, so we
had NFL terminology for the most part. So what I
asked coach to do is like, coach, let me take
what we're doing and make it simpler. So we came
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up with cold words. So everybody in America, and I
say everybody but coach Bowles might call it county two D.
That means it's a every defense line is gonna hit
inside and were bringing pressure off the edge. So instead
of calling it conte two D, I may say, we
gonna call it lightning sauce and you can start. So
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when enlightening, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, you kind of jump and scatter around.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But if it's lightning outside, what do you do? You
go inside? You know light that So lightning means the
defensive line and go inside. Saw mean the sam and
will gonna put or if I say mod, they mean
the mic and the will if I say, man, the
mic and the SAM and then we can put our
coverages once we call the blitz. So that's the way
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I sort of got into it. I'm gonna make it simple.
You know, I'm gonna teach you the base line, and
if I don't tell you where to go, you have
the gap that's in front of you. That's the way
I taught my defense. So you know, people have different
words and they well, we don't want them to know
what we're saying. Now, sometimes they gonna know anyway, based
off of the film. But the biggest thing was having
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a special ed background helped me make things simpler for
my guys as a defensive coach. The other thing was
coming from Grahamlin to Praiview now mine. I didn't go
through Spring Baldwick Praiview my very first year there. I
didn't get the praivan until the summertime. And originally I
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wasn't even supposed to be the defensive coordinator. Somebody else
turned the job down. So whoever that guy is, I
don't know his name, but I probably needed some shit
a bottle of line withess. So this god unders true.
When I got to prayerview and I know James. So
James Jones is really the reason why I came to Privilege.
He was a defensive coordinator before I came, and they
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were real they were getting better on defense. I'm I say,
real good, but they were getting better on defense. So
when I came, I tried to use James terminology. And
you know, I was going through stuff, but I would
write it in my language because phrase they looking, Man,
if you plan on being here more than a year,
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put it in your language, because I need need you
to be able to coach. And once he told me that, Man,
I took all that stuff and I put it in
my language, and then I would refer back to what
coach Jones called it, and I say, man, this ain't nothing,
but this this is what y'all used to call it.
That's what we're gonna call it now. And then in
their mind they started seeing almost like how much simpler
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it was. And I had I had cold words. So
if I say pinch or punch, pince is weak, punch
is strong, a nail is small, a spike is big.
So now you see how the words go together. If
I say whax, that means weak exis stunt. If I
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say sex, that means strong exist stunt. So it's like
different ways that I put the words together. Where if
you I guarantee, if you could go talk to some
of my guys now and they hear certain words, they
probably coul draw it up on the board for you
right now, just such a way so that lets that
lets me know that I taught well. But the cold
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words is everything. For some people they can see the
cold words, and then some people they have more automatic
where it's built into the formation. We see this formation,
that's what we're gonna run and we'll go from there
with it. But you know, it's I think it's still simple.
The the hardest part is getting guys to do it
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when they tied and uh and when they are going
up tempo and then they may lose some communication within
the defense. It's not just line up and whoop that
man in front of the United lineup, if he pulled,
if he down block, if he try to reach me.
It's more of that now. Back in the day, you know,
we probably saw option and wing the football. It wasn't
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zone readers. If you run it correctly, it really is
cripleizes football.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
If it hadn't changed.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
It just with instead of being understent the guys in
the shotgun, instead of having a pitch like the old
school pits, he throwing it to the receiver running what
we call a bowl route, a quick speed out of
you know, you know even that terminology, the bowl cutting,
the speed out, the heads of, you know, speed flat,
all that kind of stuff. It's just whatever you grow
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up calling it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, okay, So it's just it can.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Be a regional thing. Just basically you kind of make
it your own in personal and personalize it for the
sake of disguising your coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's basically, yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Let's yeah, that's and look, I remember my first year
at Prayerview we played Grammar when they had Bruce eu
Jane was the quarterback, Clyde was in George Pickett. Look
like I said, they had no frizee catchers over there.
It didn't matter what you call with them jokes, but
we we had the change what we called them things.
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To remind you, I had just come from Grand but
I was I came from around as a quarterbacks. But
they knew my defensive calls and they knew the signals,
and we tried to change the signals, and man, one
of my cornerbacks came over to the sideline because the
safeties were telling them what to do for the most part,
and he's like, coach, I can't do it. So we
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had to go back to the old signals because this,
you know, I said, a couple of guys couldn't handle
the new calls because we only practiced it one week
when we learned it for three weeks, you know, six
weeks one way, and tried to change it for that game.
Having to look back at it, I probably would have
changed it doing gave him three calls for the same
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thing and let them learn different signals. But like I said,
the special led teacher didn't show up that week. The
regular guys that saw he was coaching college guys. Hey, man,
we could pick this up and look as fast as
they were going in as fasts they were running, we
didn't do a good job. They made have set a
Cotton Bowl record for past how many times somebody got
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mouthed in one game, you know, all that type of stuff.
We just I mean, we were literally on the sideline like, wow, man,
we can't believe this is happened to us. Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well what they say, we don't care you make you
strong though, right?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It definitely did that day, Yes, sir, and you got
to keep on moving the building.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well, coach, we thank you for this said this coaches
Corner session here throughout, I want to touch real quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Man, we got some.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Unusual territory for some blue blood programs.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We kind of hit on it. But grambling your beloved
Jags and fam you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Believe it or not, we're in mid season form, even
though we're early in the conference.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is it time to panic yet at any of these camps?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Coach, Now, you know, I'm always in the coach's corner.
So you got coach Joseph who's in his second year.
You have coach Graves who's in its second year. You
have coach Cozy who's in his second year. Fans, Yeah,
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you know, I think it's some growing pains. I think
the biggest thing is that nobody has established quarterbacks and
nobody has over i'll say, an over abundance of running
games with the exceptional privilege. So and that's there with
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a new coach. Well, but they can run the ball.
And because they can run the ball, they can control
the clock and let the defense play. I think Southern's defense,
to be honest with you. You can look at the point,
but their defense played pretty well against Alabama State, especially
for the first half. Then they started pressing the thing
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you gotta do if you if you, I'm gonna just say,
if you're a Jaguar defensive player or coach, you almost
have to treat it the almost like you are a
separate You're a part of a team. I say, you
part of a body, but you have an independent function.
So what if the offense don't score. We can't let
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them score. You just keep doing your job. And now
I would tell our defense that previous, especially when we
got pretty good, like, hey, man, I don't want to
hear nothing about what our offense doing. It's nothing that
says the defense can't score points. It's nothing that says
the defense can't take the ball away and give your
offense a short feel if the offense turned the ball over.
I would act like, man, I was excited because I
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would tell all that to look, man, this is a
chance to show how really good you are. If you
think you a good defense, and let's go holding to
a field goal or better yet, let's go get the
ball back from them. So that's the way you have
to look at it. Because fans offense has gone down
from the days with the Semper. Gramling's offense has struggled,
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and I'm gonna just take in my opinion, they haven't
had a stud quarterback. Despite the fact that Crawley, I
want to say, came in as a player of the
year preseason, he didn't have a good year as well
as they expected. So you're not getting real good quarterback
play from those three schools in particular, and you're not
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running the ball well enough to offset your poor quarterback play.
You know, I'm a poor passing games because all bad
passing up completing percentages are not on the quarterback. Because
you got to look at how many balls are getting dropped,
or they getting pressure, they getting hit while they're throwing
the ball. How many balls have been tipped. So it's
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a lot of things like that that's leading to those
schools being where they are right now.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, you know, for a spilm Jackson was under the
cloak and dagger of the comergy curse.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know that was around. Could you say.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That that is the case for Gramlin and or Southern
the fives curse or the Odam curse.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man. You know what, Man, you can't really say that
because just because of the legacy of those schools off
and on, you know, Gramland has won a championship. I
think every decade since the forties, if I'm not mistaken,
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Southern went through a lull. From about the seventies and
eighties they were decent, and then nineties they went on
a run that probably won't be matched because I think
they won maybe four in a ten year span and
probably should have had one more. The Jackson team's gonna,
you know, certain schools, they're gonna always be around. But
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I just think that that curse part, I don't know.
And look, I was a big fan of Rick Comedy
and this is the god on the true One year
we played Jackson when the old I call them old
Man Jackson, Old Man Jackson was there, and because Coach
Comedy was such a good friend of mine, I know
we could have ran up the score. And I thought
about it for a minute. Then I was like, Nah,
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I don't want to get anybody hurt trying to run
the score up on these people. Just because Coach Comedy
was my was a good friend, and I didn't think
he deserves to go out the way that you know
he was, you know, making shown so, but I won't
say him. Man, sometimes it's gonna be cycles. You can't
stay good forever, in my opinion, unless you cheating up
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paying players. That that's the only thing I think, especially nowadays.
But I just think they just got to support them guys,
and they but all the schools got to find a
trigger man that when they set foot on campus they
can demand a command respect immediately, or they better go
get them a big old offensive line and blunt and
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blunt for as trauma people where if they gonna stay
in some games. And I really do think when you
run the ball very well, your defense player, because you
practice against power and zone a whole lot. And you know,
people think zone is the mess game. But if you
running zone very well, and you're running double team what
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we call duos on where you double team in the nose,
that's a that's a that's a that's a tough thing
to stop right there. But I just think both all
those schools need better quarterback play, you know, change a
little tent change in the offensive fiftem to where they
can you know, either run the ball better or get
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a better short passing game.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, this is probably gonna sound so out of whack
what I'm about to say, but I believe football is
not as physical as they used to be, which is
why some of these teams are struggling. When you talking
about no more practice in tackling and things of that nature.
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And now when you get to game on the real bullets,
if you would, you don't really know how to react,
and by the time you do react, the game is overwhet.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, I know a lot of teams went to the
we call it the NFL model of practice where you
don't tackle because of the numbers game. But your better
teams they may have one day where if you go
to a Tuesday practice, you'll think you showed up to
a game with no fans and the things. I know
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one of my former players and GA is on the
staff at Georgia, you say, man, if you go to
a Tuesday practice, you will swear to guard that the
offensive and defensive coaches hated each other because it is
a blood bath first, second, third, scouting everybody. He said,
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it's the most physical thing you've seen that wasn't on
the status and certain schools practice that way on Tuesdays.
You know, some NFL teams have gone back to there.
They usually take Monday or Tuesday off, depending on if
they win or lose, but their first practice when they
come back is going to be very physical. So people
are bringing physical football back. But I think it's a
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lot of what most people call studying to keep the
injuries down. And I'm talking about full speed stud I'm
not talking about that slow down stud. It's like, you
better hit them hard enough to where everybody knows you
would have made that tackling the game. The thing that
urgs me is I go to different teams practice and
you see them practiced and tackling nobody dies. But in
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a game, you see jokers diving all the time, and
that's the thing that gets me. But I know sometimes
the diving is because of the scheme more than it
is the guy.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That last ain't catching, so let me give it my
best effort.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And and a technique sometimes oh god awful, but I
know that's not the technique that's being taught. So because
I like that, I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm lucky enough to be able to go watch a
lot of things. But once again, it goes. It goes
back to that muscle memory, just like in baseball. Right,
it's about doing it and when your body is accustom
to certain things, you know. And then we used to
have a saying, man, man, you can tell who's scared
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Man, if he's scared, go to church, don't be out here.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
And I don't need you to think you can turn
it on when it's time to turn on. And that's
why you have, you know, some sloppy some sloppy play.
To be quite honest with you on that tackling point,
that that's hard to stomach, you know. You know, being
an old defense guy, I appreciate a physical defense and
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an aggressive defense.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah. I think the other thing that's changed too, with
everybody being so spread out. If one guy misses the tackle,
the next guy may not be within five yards of him.
So that's another thing is why you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Practice tackling and practice. Coach, I understak with you.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Look like I said, if you go to practice, you
see them practicing. I guarantee the first thing every lineback
in dB coach I'll say the second because some of
them linebackers probably gonna work on tackling first, DB's gonna
work on footwork then tackling, so you gonna see him
working on angle, tackling, face, tackling, open field, tackling, vice tackling.
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All those different things are different ways that we teach
guys to get pursuit of football. Step on his toes,
grab grab cloths and drive the people. You know, that
is what's being taught pretty much. Now, some guys teach
the rugby tackle where you you know, get more around
the guy's legs, grab what they call alligator role. You
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put it, and they teach it. Put your head on
the back side of the guy you know now used
to be get your head across the bay or the guy,
you know, all that type of stuff, but you know,
in order to take the concussion out of the game.
But like I say, they guys are being taught well,
just sometimes the game just bring different things out and
you know, out for what reason, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But the human nation, well, you know, it's like the
old rabbit. You're a hunter, and my Papa taught me
a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
You ain't got to chase that rabbit all over place.
Just set patience. He's gonna come right back. Where he started.
And eventually football is gonna come right back to that
because they're seeing it now. More emphasis is being put
on the run. And every time you people's passing just
to be passing, just because they can spell the word pass.
We're gonna pass fast past and spread them out. But
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there gradually, you know, the spread ain't nothing but a
new version of the old triple option. It all eventually
comes back. And no matter how fast you get, no
matter how tall you get, how big you get, you
still gotta tackle. You still gotta run. You still gotta
run and catch and throw and catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
So you know what that's funny than me and it
is not. I'm gonna say, swack fans man. Sometimes they
want to be entertained more than be good. You know,
we not being creative enough on offense. Look, man, just
find a way to put the ball in the end zone.
You don't have the good teams run the same plays
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over and over and over again. They gonna the call seat.
You're gonna start off with fifty calls on it. When
it gets close to the end of the game, you're
gonna have three plays on your defensive call seat that
you're gonna rely on. You might have five plays. You're
gonna have two short yarded passes, two deep. I'm gonna
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say six two deep passes or me them pass it,
and then you're gonna have two runs that you can
hang your hat on. Other than that, all that other
stuff with all the emotions and crisscross, and then you
might have that Hey, let's let's save this bootleg for lady.
In about fourth and one, fourth and three, we gotta
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what some people call a hide route or a sneak route,
where you bring a guy behind the line of scrimmage
from one side to another, especially if they playing man
the man that you you're like, man, we hadn't showed
them miss all games. And when you run it, it's
guaranteed to uh, you can knock the gold post down
almost up. It'll get you to where you can get
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in victory formations.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, sir, Now, coach, you know we've been talking these
extra those on the defensive side, there's only one defense.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
That I think has really been retired.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Uh, and all the others just they just said, they
just call them different things. But the old four to
six defense, when you tech say that one start one that's.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Been retired I think it is. Some people use it still,
but the problem with that defense is it pretty much
relegates you to playing man and man yeah, cover three,
because you have this strong State that walked down on
number on number two what we would call the number
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two receiver if he split out. And I don't know
if you remember the year that the Bass went to
and won the championship. The only Kings that beat him
was Miami, and Miami beat him because the Baths didn't
have enough dbs to play in with all the receivers
that they had. But I mean, if you play that defense,
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because I remember, like the All Coins and the Jackson
States when they were very good, they ran a version
of the bad defense. They didn't call it bad. It's
almost like that. They may have called it the five
to two stack of by split or something like that,
and that's pretty much what they were running. They made
it to where you hardly have anywhere to run, and
they were good enough at the cornerback stock. You got
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to think of all the dB that Auconne was sending
to the pros at one time, and they were sent
in to the pros because they played man almost the
whole game. I remember when Marino Cavin was the head
coach at Southern. You know, we just called it a
cat defense because you got the cat and wherever he goes,
you go with it. And his reason behind that was,
if we try to teach you all these own defenses,
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you may mess it up. But if you know you
got that, man, we could look ammediately and tell who
won or who didn't win.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
They battle, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, the whole assignment football, Sir.
It's just it's on. It's that circle. Coach, It's gonna
come back, well, coach hook Man. We have definitely covered
some ground this week, man, and I want to give
you some some closing thoughts and common in shirts.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
We give it a wrap this week's second of them.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Look, man, I was debate on going over to the
Watch Praiview and All Corns Play because it's the opening
day hunting season, opening weekend the hunting season where Adam
and I traditionally go back to louis Inna and go
hunting there. We were gonna make the trick from Matton
Ruge to All Coin depending on what time we got
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off the woods, but uh, we're not gonna make that trip.
So hopefully it'll be a good environment for the guys.
But I keep going back to prevy fan, getting them
stands and make a difference in the ball. Don't just
come and don't just sit there. Look, me and my
wife were talking. So my wife went to Southern and
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Jackson's state game last week while Adam and I went
to the state fact class. Mind you too, I had
to fuss at your boy because he went to the
state fac classes and didn't have a prison shirt on.
So you know what what you think? I told typical
priview fan, how how you going to a preview for
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fotball games? You're a preview student and you don't have
and I know, you know, from coach McDonald to coach
Simmons to coach all the jokers gave a joke a
preview shirt. I gave him a privileege shirt not too
long ago. So I got to hit up coach Jackson
see if he could get your boy Adam another presview
shirt that he's dedicated for football.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But well maybe because he got them Southern parents.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Now, look he grown now, so as y'all want to
be y'all proud. So that's that's one thing. But look,
my wife was talking about how good the crowd was
that and you know how loud it was at Southern games,
especially when it was a close game. Then she I said, well,
I couldn't tell how loud it was. The previluge fan.
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She said she remembers coming to a preview game and
standing up and trying to get the you know, defense,
Panther's defense, you know, something along those lines. And she said, somebody,
could can you sit down? Or can't y'all? It was,
you know, h some of the other coaches wives were
at the game together and they asked them to sit down.
So it's one of those. And I talked to somebody
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else recently that sits in a very prominent section of
the Prairiview Stadium, right right in the lower bowl. I
say lower bowl, but right in front of that, the
area where they start the drinks and the food. I'm
not privy enough to go in there, but I know
where it is. So long story short. They said they
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tried to do the same thing and people were looking
at them like, hey, man, sit down you in a way,
I can't see what's going on third, third and five
in Prairie on defense, they trying to say defense the
sense come on and man, people looking at them like, man,
would you please sit down? So, like I said, I
want to go to a game and Prairie fans make
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a difference in the ball game, you know, get an
off make the offense jump or the layer game because
they can't hear. That's That's what I'm talking about. So
I look, you know, like I said, I love them.
I think they got a good product. They putting a
good product. You know, don't get on the bandwagon lake
because it's gonna get heavy, it might get full, I
don't know. But make sure when you come into the game,
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or when you tell people may come to the game
and make a difference in the game. Don't just come
and be reactionary. Oh they made a good diving catch.
Oh he made a good run, Oh he shook somebody.
Now go ahead on and encourage those guys by making noise,
especially on the defense and the offense. Make sure the
band not playing while we're on offense. I'm saying we
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but I still you know, I'm sending some money up there,
but you know, just stuff like that. I want Prairie
fans to make a difference in the game because I
got stopped at the Cotton Bowl and somebody say, I
talk bad about Praiere fans, But man, I say, I
tell it like I said, and I have no malicious intent,
because I know what a difference a good crowd can
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make for the environment. You know, just think if you
a recruiting you come to a game and it's no
excitement in the crowd. You know what I'm saying. That
makes a difference for me.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, it makes a difference to all of us, sir.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
And you know, I've been accused of some similar you know, accusations,
but you know, everybody's entitled to the deal.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
But you know, the one thing that really really that
they said digs deep under my skin.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
You're gonna probably think I'm crazy when I said, I
would just like us to have the proper gold.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Look, look I get. Look my sister mess with me
all the time about how many different color blues the
other had. They got navy blue, raw blue, light blue,
columbia blue, all that, you know, and then between the
golds and the yellows and all that kind of stuff.
Stuff I'm saying, where you're coming.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
From and see and to me, and I thought, if
they banded that white with that Columbia blue number on
the jersey.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That stuff ought to be banned. Man, you can't see
that stuff from the officials in the fresh box.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Eras Nah, Noah, you really can't. But you know that's
that's thirty people. But that, like I said, that's above
my pay grade, that's above my donation level.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yes sir, yes sir, and ironic because Prairie View is
playing all corn.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
And I heard one of the.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Most ridiculous comments. I said, well, how can they get
the gold, which y'all tell us we don't have access
to the gold.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
No, no, no, no, that dog don't hunt.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
And then well, you know both of them got gold,
and so you want to take the yellow gold. You know,
no disrespect. I don't want to be looking like Lsu.
I want to look like Ferry View. I want to
look like Fryview.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
And I know there was an issue between the old
Goal and you know forty nine. They got so many
little tricks that they use, but why don't you take
this instead of that? You know, all that kind of stuff.
So it's more than you think, especially when it comes
to trying to order uniforms and all that luck. And
I got a nasty letter about the black being in
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the uniform one year, but they say, man, when I
was there, you had a stadium that nobody really wanted
to play in and be true truth Beta. So we
were trying to do some things. Hey, man, let's get
nice uniforms or different uniforms. If we don't have a
weight room that you can go into, or if we
don't have a night saying, let's try to do something
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to make these kids, you know, like they experience it
like they That's how Oregon really sort of took off.
They start off, they started the uniform walls, and then
everybody sort of tried to go with. You know, now
you're saying very traditional teams with black uniforms. Then a
couple of years ago, I don't know if you remember,
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smoke Great became the color in the Matt cullored hammers
where it looked like flat, not glossy. You know. So
eventually it's gonna go back to the old school looking uniforms.
People gonna find color pictures from nineteen sixty prayer and say, man,
let's make our uniforms look like this instead of what
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we're going through. But I've heard a lot of different
things from equipment managers, because I say quite a few
of those guys I either worked with before or something
like that, you know, know, through going watching practice or
you know, when I go to a place, I might say, hey, man,
ask ahead, Coauch, Hey, you mind if I get an
old shirt and I get an equipment manager, you know,
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twenty dollars for you know, just say a Jackson State
T shirt or something like that, because you know, all
I wear is HBCUs year. I don't wear LSU, text
A and M and all the US ahs and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
So Coach I and told you about this is a
family program. He used that harsh language.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Man. You know, look, sometimes you gotta use hardest language
to get a point across. But you know that's that's
that's just where it is though. So it'll all work
to step out in the wars that they say.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yes sir, yes sir, well, uh, we we'll definitely as
they say uh. Come to the end of this week's segment.
He is coach Heist Norman, our football guru, and you
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Speaker 2 (53:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
How you doing today, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, I'm finding dandy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look, I made it up to the State Fair, Satan. Sound.
Look this the first time me and Adam took a
significant road trip, just me and him, and I let
him do a good bit of the driving, so I
think I might have slept for about a minute on
the ride. Olf. So look, I'm glad we made it.
(00:40):
But look, man, it his my wife's cousin. I said, say,
did some driving, you know, to and from the game,
because that's where we stayed while we were up there. Man, look,
he had me more scared than Adam did. We was good.
I had a chance to see his son play. They
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end up coming out victorious, and he made a couple
of big plays. Uh. He played that Wiley East High School,
Uh up there, and they were playing the school from
pretty closer.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So well, man, you know, you know, you know that's
Ben's family neck of the woods man Wiley, Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
His mom and dad meant it Wiley.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, yeah, man, Look well look I still hadn't seen
him yet. But if you make it down a home come, Look,
let's let's try to maybe plan a Sunday uh get
together because I know a lot of people may hang around,
maybe come by the house Sunday after homecoming. Look, I
know that's one of the few games that some people
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gonna come labor. They didn't happen the Dallastate fathom happened,
so homecoming might be the last game we see a
few folks. But I'm you know what, I'm saying it jokingly,
but I mean what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I do understand. Coach.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, I'm pretty sure he would take the inviting and
we can make sure that we have plenty of food
and snacks for the entertainment that could be and should be.
We'll try to make that happen. I promise you we'll
try to make that happen. Meanwhile, we had another interesting
week throughout the conference. The Panthers beat Gramley State, and
(02:21):
let me say this, coach beat them convincingly. In my opinion,
I think this was the best performance overall for Prayview
to slight hiccup on the field goal attempt and everything,
but this was the best performance of the season for
the Panthers thus far. But then I put a slight
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caution to that because Gramley came in what I'm going
to call a week three and one.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Is it more of Purry View?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was that much better or Grammy wasn't as good as
we thought they were.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, So so I would say the score can be
deceived because if I'm and I tell you this, I
know prey offensive coaches definitely want to put up more
than seven points a quarter. And one of the touchdowns
came as a result of a bad snap over the
punter's head, and I think they got the ball maybe
around a twelve yarding. But as a coach, you take
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any points you can. You'll take it on the twelve
or the one because we have seen him go ninety
eight ninety nine yards and score the football. But the
thing years, you know, they had one ball that was dropped.
I think the kid lost it in the life, to
be honest with you, because it didn't hit his hands.
And you know, sometimes you will see a kid when
they start to look where they running before they finished
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the place. This one didn't even hit the kid's hands,
so it bounced off the shoulder pack. I think that's
one now that was gonna be a for sure touchdown.
The list of you know, something very fluke happen because
he was ten yards behind the defensive back. The other one,
I want to say, they had a fumble in the
red zone where Gramlin got the ball back at prairi
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View was about to score. So if you look at it,
that's fourteen points. Now Grandlin can say, well, we got
down there. Quarterbacks should have ran one end. You know,
it's a lot of you could if Ifson could have.
But at the end of the day, I think the
ground game from Prairiview travel well. Gramlin's ads attack didn't
travel well, and they ran the ball decently, but not
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as well as they wanted to. And I really think
in order to beat Prairieview you gotta stay out of
third and long, and sometimes even on second and long
you have to run the ball against that defense. That
was one thing like me and coach Orlando used to
talk about just second and long for Lotson, you gotta
have a good screen game. But Prairiviews defense was reacting
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very well I think except one time to Gramlin screen games,
but other than that, when they tried to throw some
of the slip screens. Even a defensive lineman was doing
what we call retracing their steps and making so that
lets you know the defense playing at a high clip
when you got defensive linemen recognizing screens and then put
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that foot in there and we say put your front
foot in the ground and then retrace your steps and
it'll take you right to where the screen is going.
So they did a good jobug. The other thing is
for all the people that was complaining about the skykicks,
you know, Grantland did have some pretty good kickoff returns. Again,
So like I said, I know that's something that you
know from a schematic standpoint or a we used to say,
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is either a scheme issue or a person there issue,
and you got to try to figure out which one.
How can you know? You definitely don't want it to
be a scheme issue. So if it's a person there issue,
you know, maybe do you have to put some starters
back on your kickoff team? And you know, for a
while that bread we had Adrian Hamilton running down on
kickoff or just say me when I played, I'm sorry,
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Like me and Coach Richardson had a deal where I
didn't have to play the best of themes the first half. No,
I would play best team the first quarter, the second quarter,
he would give me off, third quarter, he would give
me off. Fourth quarter. I had to go back on
punt team because I was the personal protector, and then
I would have to go back on kickoff depending on
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the score of the game. So you know, like they
may have to do some things, some creative ways to
insure up that kickoff.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Team right right right, And like I said, that was
the only hiccup that I saw. But now doesn't mean
I Prairie View is completely out of the water just yet.
To me, this game against all Corn is going to
say some year all Corn is down. Okay, but historically
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and this is not the old Prairie View, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The water to wine mantra. These days it's not the
old Prairie View. So then the state.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Games this week, you got to go down there and
force your wheel on all Coin. But easier shiit to done,
even though all Coin is struggling.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, So one of the things this was Doug Williams
will say to the guys, or should I say coach Dog,
He would say, every game you play, every next game
is the most important game of the seasons. Coach Fraze
would say that sentiment once we got to the point
where it looked like we were getting better. Every game
is the most important game. And sometimes it's hard to
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convince guys of that because they they schedule watching record
watch a little bit too. The coaches don't. But you know,
like I say, those are eighteen to twenty seven year
old guys for the most part, and they well, they
lost the Pine Bluff and Pine Bluff lost such and such,
and we beat you know, they try to put all
these scenarios together that you know may lead to some
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but like I say, every game they play from here
on out is going to be the biggest on the sketch.
Best if they say at first place, just say, for
instance of previews in first place, which they are right now,
everybody else is don't try to see ken they play
the spoiler row. Can we be the one that beat
them to knock them down, or can we get a
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tie break scenario where we hold the tiebreaker against them
if we get hot or something like that. You just
say a Southern team for example. I don't know who
they play next, but if they get hot, and win
a couple of games, and then them against privileges they
got to head to head one of those type of scenarios.
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So it's some different ways that people look at them,
but it's big from here on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Out, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And all Corn coming off they're twenty four to twenty
loss against Time Bluff. Have you had a chance to
look at what all Corn is bringing to the table
and where they might be struggling.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, I've seen them play. I saw them play against Northwest.
I'm trying to think what was the other game I
saw them play just a little. It might have been
a couple of series. But the thing that I see
with all cons you can tell a quarterback is talented.
He's a great thrower up the football, but he is
not a great pass And then sometimes when he throws
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good passes, it might be a little well we call a
little bit hot. Same thing with ground the quarterback. I
mean he was throwing ninety five miles pile fastballs when
he threw up should have been throwing some changeups in
the red zone area, like he's trying to fit in
the spaces, so he throws the libery harder. Then sometimes
on the deep ball the kid from all Corns. I
mean he overthrows guys like ten yards. I can see
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overthrowing a guy by a few yards, but ten yards
that's just to me unacceptable. But they strugged him from
that standpoint, then they know they can run the ball.
But can they run the ball when both teams know
that we about to see a run right here? I
think that's what hurt him against Northwestern State. They could
get you know, four yard full yards, and then when
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it came a third and two or thirty one, they
couldn't pick up that one yard. That's what I mean
by being able to run when both teams know this
about to be a run and player.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Okay, okay, so am I hearing well?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't know if you are saying this, but you're
saying a strong run attack for all Coin could be
the key for them to be successful.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think anybody that's playing against Priview because because of
Previews past defense, which I said it was gonna be
a problem for people because you don't see that defense often.
You know, it's just like you're playing against the oppotion team.
You got a week to prepare for well, preparing for
Previews defense. It's gonna be a pain, especially if you're
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not a good passing team from the get go, because
of the way that they drop people, the way that
they bring pressure, the way that they show pressure, the
way they ed Presher with some guys with decent sized
and speed. I think that is gonna be a problem
for most teams. And I was telling somebody else that,
if you think about remember when coach Five's was at
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Gramlin and he had the defensive coordinator. I can't think
of his name, but I know he had ties to
the Wild era. I think his wife actually worked on
Privileuge campus for a long time. But he's currently coaching
at Southern. But he ran a three to three stack.
That's what I call a defense of some people call
it a three three five or whatever. He ran a
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very similar defense to a preview is running now, and
they gave people the blues because you didn't know which
safety was coming down. You didn't know which overhang was
gonna be the fourth guy and sometime the fifth guy.
And I go back to when I was a defen
car coordinator, we always said on first down, were probably
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gonna send five people. Now it's up to the offensive
coordinator for the other teams to figure out which five
are coming out? We bringing five with the middle? Uh, well,
I say, the fifth guy coming up the middle, or
we bring a fifth guy off the edge. Is the
fifth guy gonna be a cornerback or safety? Or are
the five guys gonna overload one side or the other.
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So when when you got what Prairiview has on defense?
And like I say, once I saw him at practice
one day, I'm like, Oh, it's gonna be some problems
because you don't see it well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But the three three stacking, like I said, it's just
a player on the words and it's gonna lead me
to a topic I gotta ask you about later on
to me, coach, you know, like I said, I'm not
the gourle, you the gurule, you understand. Uh, the three
three stack is really what a like a hybrid four
two five to me? To me because usually that third
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linebacker is a tweener between a linebacker and a strong safety,
you know, and he's fans enough and hits hard enough
that he becomes almost like that that that ace in
the hole if I can be creative with this dude,
So what makes that so difficult to adjust to?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Because of the way you line up, so a lot
of people, it depends on how you play your tackles.
Where they may call him tackles, I call him ends
the two guys that's over the offensive tackles. So if
you line them head up, you can sort of get
away with playing bigger guys that may not be the
best pass russers, but when what you can do it's best.
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I'm saying about ninety nine had it. He might not.
He's not gonna make a lot of plays, but he
makes the play that makes the play for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right, he's that club, but he's that He's the guy
does that dirty work that look what the wrong words
The linebackers, yeah and strong, shakey can't get their shine on.
That's why he doesn't. He don't have to be the fastest.
And that's why you give him an extra piece of
state when he comes through the line man, because he
looks really a he's a battle battle warrior.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Look, he might get eat the middle linebacker if he's
enough gonna make sure. He says, look, man, you can
have my dessert on these road trips. So whenever the
team meets, look, you have as long as you keep
me clean long as I can make ten or twelve
tackles game, yes, sure you can eat and they do
a good job. You know I can't, But it all
depends on the alignment. If you line up at four
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what we call four eyes, that mean head up on
the tackle, you can keep everybody clean. Almost. The other
thing is if you got some real good guys that
read can read the tackle block it's a tackle trying
to down block, or is what we call pass said.
If you got some guys their overhangs that can read
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it fast, then sometimes you don't know which of those
three safeties are coming down. So I played a three
three stacks, but I played mine with where Praiview has
their two overhangs. I brought mine in and I brought
my safeties down, so my and we did. There was
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a pressure package for us. We only played a few
coverages out of Prayerview can run it and they can
play way more coverages than what I did because of
their alignment with the three states. That's what gives people
the problems. You don't know if you got a guy
coming off the edge, you could send the mic back.
What I call the mic is the guy that's staying
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behind the nose. Ord you could send him, make him
the fourth guy. Then you can bring a safety down
and play cover two, regular cover two, or what they
call country cover two. You can play Campa what we
call Tampa behind that. So it's a lot of different coverages.
And you know what, and somewhat I would do this
with Adrian Hamilton, So I would let Adrians technically be
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the mic linebacker and he can tell the other defensive
linemens which way to go, and then he would rush
opposite them. So you can do a lot of different
things the way that they played, but I can say
it's two ways that most people played, true, and then
the way Prairieview plays it. It's a three high seal
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instead of a one high sale. That's the way most
people would explain.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If you're talking to a coach, right right, we're talking
with coach Heights Northern with after further review and the
different defensive looks in the Prairie Views a plan of attacks.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
For twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now, coach, we hear people sometimes they hear the talk
but don't know exactly what in the world is going on.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You hear the cover ones, the Cover two's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And all of that just in a in a flashing moment,
what is who, how and where are their assignments?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Just for the education of the people in the land.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So I'm gonna take you through cover one through five
in the easy way possible. Cover one means to most people,
if you're talking football, you're all playing man a man
coverage with one safety in the middle of the field.
So that is one way most people gon line up
different when they playing man than when they play zone.
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So if you see one safety in the middle of
the field, nine times out of ten they are playing
cover one. All cover three. So I'm a skip back
to two. So cover two means you have a safety
pretty much on each has and they are playing deep,
and then you have five men under you have your
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traditional three linebackers, and then you have your cornerbacks that
are trying to force everything back inside to those two safeties.
We call it funnel and drift the funnel and sift
the you know funnel, and if you get a vertical
then you're gonna seek. So it just depends on what
type of coach you're playing for. But the corners want
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to force the inside to the safety and if those
guys keep going with most people will say birth, then
they gonna sink a little bit, all right. Cover three
is zone is a zone defense, so you that means
you got three people deep. The corner's gonna take care
of everything deep outside the hatses pretty much. The free
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safety is gonna take care of everything deep in the
middle of the field. You know, I know the coaches
you say deepest, the deepest, and then they gonna break
on the football. Uh. And then you have your underneath people.
Two guys don't have curl of flat, then two guys
don't have hook the curl. That is Cover three, one
guy to the middle of field. But it is a
zone defense. Uh. Cover four means you have four guys deep.
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So the corners got deep outside the stations got deep
pretty much from the hats to the middle of the field.
And then you have three people underneath, which means now
your flats are gonna be over you. You're gonna take
care of the curl first, and then you're breaking late
on our throw. So you see cover four mostly laden
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games are on like second and twenty third and twenty
you'll see more cover fours. And then you tell you
guys make them throw it in front, then we'll rally
to the football and then Cover five to me or
some people, is a cover two, but it's more of
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a zone where if the inside receiver goes vertical, it
turns back in the cover fourth. You know, it's like,
if number two go vertical, then a cornerback is gonna
go vertical or get deep. If number two runs out,
then a cornerback can break on that and the safety
will take care of it. So that I put like that,
that's cover one through five, and another said a man
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two D three deep zone, Cover four its quarters and
cover five for most people is a is a red
cover two that can turn the quarters or if the
cover two that will stay covered two. But you're looking
at a receiver that's gonna tell you where.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
To go right and to me, I call that that
last from the lightweight tackers. Them guys are fast, but
they ain't gonna bring nobody down on the thunder.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They gonna need a bunch of gang tackling.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, they ran into the football and get there. Yes,
say that's that's wrong with getting ran over as long
as they don't get the first down.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I know that's right, so now, and it's it's so funny, man,
because the language of the game changes, but it's really
the same coach, because back in the day used to
have what they call a five to two, which is
but a three four and really and then your outside linebackers,
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you they're not the edge rushers, and you know, your
defensive ends are actually defensive tackles, and it is it's
just a play on words, which is kind of leading
me to the other topic, you know, and I know
it's about the gamesmanship and the different languages, the rhinos, hippos,
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the oma haws, the Oklahomas, and how do you select
your language of choice whenever you are and how what
made you base it on that? And why not just
keep it as plain as simple and just tell you
guys to go execute.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Look, man, so this is how my defense got so simple,
I thought, especially and I coached my very first year
of coaching, I was the defensive line coach, and I'm
gonna say we played a five to two for the
most part. Three of those kids were especially you know,
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they might not have had all you know, they didn't
stay in the same class all day. So I had
to figure out a way to make those guys line
up right. That was the first thing that led me
to making my defense simple. Now, mind you, I coached
running backs when I first got in college. I started coaching,
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so I worked at Grammar when Todd Bowles was the
defensive coordinator, but I coached on the offensive side of
the ball, and then we moved to defense, so we
had NFL terminology for the most part. So what I
asked coach to do is like, coach, let me take
what we're doing and make it simpler. So we came
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up with cold words. So everybody in America, and I
say everybody but coach Bowles might call it county two D.
That means it's a every defense line is gonna hit
inside and were bringing pressure off the edge. So instead
of calling it conte two D, I may say, we
gonna call it lightning sauce and you can start. So
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when enlightening, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, you kind of jump and scatter around.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But if it's lightning outside, what do you do? You
go inside? You know light that So lightning means the
defensive line and go inside. Saw mean the sam and
will gonna put or if I say mod, they mean
the mic and the will if I say, man, the
mic and the SAM and then we can put our
coverages once we call the blitz. So that's the way
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I sort of got into it. I'm gonna make it simple.
You know, I'm gonna teach you the base line, and
if I don't tell you where to go, you have
the gap that's in front of you. That's the way
I taught my defense. So you know, people have different
words and they well, we don't want them to know
what we're saying. Now, sometimes they gonna know anyway, based
off of the film. But the biggest thing was having
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a special ed background helped me make things simpler for
my guys as a defensive coach. The other thing was
coming from Grahamlin to Praiview now mine. I didn't go
through Spring Baldwick Praiview my very first year there. I
didn't get the praivan until the summertime. And originally I
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wasn't even supposed to be the defensive coordinator. Somebody else
turned the job down. So whoever that guy is, I
don't know his name, but I probably needed some shit
a bottle of line withess. So this god unders true.
When I got to prayerview and I know James. So
James Jones is really the reason why I came to Privilege.
He was a defensive coordinator before I came, and they
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were real they were getting better on defense. I'm I say,
real good, but they were getting better on defense. So
when I came, I tried to use James terminology. And
you know, I was going through stuff, but I would
write it in my language because phrase they looking, Man,
if you plan on being here more than a year,
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put it in your language, because I need need you
to be able to coach. And once he told me that, Man,
I took all that stuff and I put it in
my language, and then I would refer back to what
coach Jones called it, and I say, man, this ain't nothing,
but this this is what y'all used to call it.
That's what we're gonna call it now. And then in
their mind they started seeing almost like how much simpler
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it was. And I had I had cold words. So
if I say pinch or punch, pince is weak, punch
is strong, a nail is small, a spike is big.
So now you see how the words go together. If
I say whax, that means weak exis stunt. If I
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say sex, that means strong exist stunt. So it's like
different ways that I put the words together. Where if
you I guarantee, if you could go talk to some
of my guys now and they hear certain words, they
probably coul draw it up on the board for you
right now, just such a way so that lets that
lets me know that I taught well. But the cold
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words is everything. For some people they can see the
cold words, and then some people they have more automatic
where it's built into the formation. We see this formation,
that's what we're gonna run and we'll go from there
with it. But you know, it's I think it's still simple.
The the hardest part is getting guys to do it
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when they tied and uh and when they are going
up tempo and then they may lose some communication within
the defense. It's not just line up and whoop that
man in front of the United lineup, if he pulled,
if he down block, if he try to reach me.
It's more of that now. Back in the day, you know,
we probably saw option and wing the football. It wasn't
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zone readers. If you run it correctly, it really is
cripleizes football.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
If it hadn't changed.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
It just with instead of being understent the guys in
the shotgun, instead of having a pitch like the old
school pits, he throwing it to the receiver running what
we call a bowl route, a quick speed out of
you know, you know even that terminology, the bowl cutting,
the speed out, the heads of, you know, speed flat,
all that kind of stuff. It's just whatever you grow
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up calling it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, okay, So it's just it can.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Be a regional thing. Just basically you kind of make
it your own in personal and personalize it for the
sake of disguising your coverage.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's basically, yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Let's yeah, that's and look, I remember my first year
at Prayerview we played Grammar when they had Bruce eu
Jane was the quarterback, Clyde was in George Pickett. Look
like I said, they had no frizee catchers over there.
It didn't matter what you call with them jokes, but
we we had the change what we called them things.
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To remind you, I had just come from Grand but
I was I came from around as a quarterbacks. But
they knew my defensive calls and they knew the signals,
and we tried to change the signals, and man, one
of my cornerbacks came over to the sideline because the
safeties were telling them what to do for the most part,
and he's like, coach, I can't do it. So we
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had to go back to the old signals because this,
you know, I said, a couple of guys couldn't handle
the new calls because we only practiced it one week
when we learned it for three weeks, you know, six
weeks one way, and tried to change it for that game.
Having to look back at it, I probably would have
changed it doing gave him three calls for the same
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thing and let them learn different signals. But like I said,
the special led teacher didn't show up that week. The
regular guys that saw he was coaching college guys. Hey, man,
we could pick this up and look as fast as
they were going in as fasts they were running, we
didn't do a good job. They made have set a
Cotton Bowl record for past how many times somebody got
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mouthed in one game, you know, all that type of stuff.
We just I mean, we were literally on the sideline like, wow, man,
we can't believe this is happened to us. Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well what they say, we don't care you make you
strong though, right?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It definitely did that day, Yes, sir, and you got
to keep on moving the building.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well, coach, we thank you for this said this coaches
Corner session here throughout, I want to touch real quickly.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Man, we got some.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Unusual territory for some blue blood programs.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We kind of hit on it. But grambling your beloved
Jags and fam you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Believe it or not, we're in mid season form, even
though we're early in the conference.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is it time to panic yet at any of these camps?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Coach, Now, you know, I'm always in the coach's corner.
So you got coach Joseph who's in his second year.
You have coach Graves who's in its second year. You
have coach Cozy who's in his second year. Fans, Yeah,
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you know, I think it's some growing pains. I think
the biggest thing is that nobody has established quarterbacks and
nobody has over i'll say, an over abundance of running
games with the exceptional privilege. So and that's there with
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a new coach. Well, but they can run the ball.
And because they can run the ball, they can control
the clock and let the defense play. I think Southern's defense,
to be honest with you. You can look at the point,
but their defense played pretty well against Alabama State, especially
for the first half. Then they started pressing the thing
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you gotta do if you if you, I'm gonna just say,
if you're a Jaguar defensive player or coach, you almost
have to treat it the almost like you are a
separate You're a part of a team. I say, you
part of a body, but you have an independent function.
So what if the offense don't score. We can't let
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them score. You just keep doing your job. And now
I would tell our defense that previous, especially when we
got pretty good, like, hey, man, I don't want to
hear nothing about what our offense doing. It's nothing that
says the defense can't score points. It's nothing that says
the defense can't take the ball away and give your
offense a short feel if the offense turned the ball over.
I would act like, man, I was excited because I
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would tell all that to look, man, this is a
chance to show how really good you are. If you
think you a good defense, and let's go holding to
a field goal or better yet, let's go get the
ball back from them. So that's the way you have
to look at it. Because fans offense has gone down
from the days with the Semper. Gramling's offense has struggled,
(32:00):
and I'm gonna just take in my opinion, they haven't
had a stud quarterback. Despite the fact that Crawley, I
want to say, came in as a player of the
year preseason, he didn't have a good year as well
as they expected. So you're not getting real good quarterback
play from those three schools in particular, and you're not
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running the ball well enough to offset your poor quarterback play.
You know, I'm a poor passing games because all bad
passing up completing percentages are not on the quarterback. Because
you got to look at how many balls are getting dropped,
or they getting pressure, they getting hit while they're throwing
the ball. How many balls have been tipped. So it's
(32:42):
a lot of things like that that's leading to those
schools being where they are right now.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, you know, for a spilm Jackson was under the
cloak and dagger of the comergy curse.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know that was around. Could you say.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That that is the case for Gramlin and or Southern
the fives curse or the Odam curse.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man. You know what, Man, you can't really say that
because just because of the legacy of those schools off
and on, you know, Gramland has won a championship. I
think every decade since the forties, if I'm not mistaken,
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Southern went through a lull. From about the seventies and
eighties they were decent, and then nineties they went on
a run that probably won't be matched because I think
they won maybe four in a ten year span and
probably should have had one more. The Jackson team's gonna,
you know, certain schools, they're gonna always be around. But
(33:56):
I just think that that curse part, I don't know.
And look, I was a big fan of Rick Comedy
and this is the god on the true One year
we played Jackson when the old I call them old
Man Jackson, Old Man Jackson was there, and because Coach
Comedy was such a good friend of mine, I know
we could have ran up the score. And I thought
about it for a minute. Then I was like, Nah,
(34:17):
I don't want to get anybody hurt trying to run
the score up on these people. Just because Coach Comedy
was my was a good friend, and I didn't think
he deserves to go out the way that you know
he was, you know, making shown so, but I won't
say him. Man, sometimes it's gonna be cycles. You can't
stay good forever, in my opinion, unless you cheating up
(34:38):
paying players. That that's the only thing I think, especially nowadays.
But I just think they just got to support them guys,
and they but all the schools got to find a
trigger man that when they set foot on campus they
can demand a command respect immediately, or they better go
get them a big old offensive line and blunt and
(35:01):
blunt for as trauma people where if they gonna stay
in some games. And I really do think when you
run the ball very well, your defense player, because you
practice against power and zone a whole lot. And you know,
people think zone is the mess game. But if you
running zone very well, and you're running double team what
(35:21):
we call duos on where you double team in the nose,
that's a that's a that's a that's a tough thing
to stop right there. But I just think both all
those schools need better quarterback play, you know, change a
little tent change in the offensive fiftem to where they
can you know, either run the ball better or get
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a better short passing game.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, this is probably gonna sound so out of whack
what I'm about to say, but I believe football is
not as physical as they used to be, which is
why some of these teams are struggling. When you talking
about no more practice in tackling and things of that nature.
(36:07):
And now when you get to game on the real bullets,
if you would, you don't really know how to react,
and by the time you do react, the game is overwhet.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, I know a lot of teams went to the
we call it the NFL model of practice where you
don't tackle because of the numbers game. But your better
teams they may have one day where if you go
to a Tuesday practice, you'll think you showed up to
a game with no fans and the things. I know
(36:38):
one of my former players and GA is on the
staff at Georgia, you say, man, if you go to
a Tuesday practice, you will swear to guard that the
offensive and defensive coaches hated each other because it is
a blood bath first, second, third, scouting everybody. He said,
(36:59):
it's the most physical thing you've seen that wasn't on
the status and certain schools practice that way on Tuesdays.
You know, some NFL teams have gone back to there.
They usually take Monday or Tuesday off, depending on if
they win or lose, but their first practice when they
come back is going to be very physical. So people
are bringing physical football back. But I think it's a
(37:23):
lot of what most people call studying to keep the
injuries down. And I'm talking about full speed stud I'm
not talking about that slow down stud. It's like, you
better hit them hard enough to where everybody knows you
would have made that tackling the game. The thing that
urgs me is I go to different teams practice and
you see them practiced and tackling nobody dies. But in
(37:46):
a game, you see jokers diving all the time, and
that's the thing that gets me. But I know sometimes
the diving is because of the scheme more than it
is the guy.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That last ain't catching, so let me give it my
best effort.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And and a technique sometimes oh god awful, but I
know that's not the technique that's being taught. So because
I like that, I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm lucky enough to be able to go watch a
lot of things. But once again, it goes. It goes
back to that muscle memory, just like in baseball. Right,
it's about doing it and when your body is accustom
to certain things, you know. And then we used to
have a saying, man, man, you can tell who's scared
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Man, if he's scared, go to church, don't be out here.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
And I don't need you to think you can turn
it on when it's time to turn on. And that's
why you have, you know, some sloppy some sloppy play.
To be quite honest with you on that tackling point,
that that's hard to stomach, you know. You know, being
an old defense guy, I appreciate a physical defense and
(38:55):
an aggressive defense.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah. I think the other thing that's changed too, with
everybody being so spread out. If one guy misses the tackle,
the next guy may not be within five yards of him.
So that's another thing is why you.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Practice tackling and practice. Coach, I understak with you.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Look like I said, if you go to practice, you
see them practicing. I guarantee the first thing every lineback
in dB coach I'll say the second because some of
them linebackers probably gonna work on tackling first, DB's gonna
work on footwork then tackling, so you gonna see him
working on angle, tackling, face, tackling, open field, tackling, vice tackling.
(39:40):
All those different things are different ways that we teach
guys to get pursuit of football. Step on his toes,
grab grab cloths and drive the people. You know, that
is what's being taught pretty much. Now, some guys teach
the rugby tackle where you you know, get more around
the guy's legs, grab what they call alligator role. You
(40:01):
put it, and they teach it. Put your head on
the back side of the guy you know now used
to be get your head across the bay or the guy,
you know, all that type of stuff, but you know,
in order to take the concussion out of the game.
But like I say, they guys are being taught well,
just sometimes the game just bring different things out and
you know, out for what reason, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But the human nation, well, you know, it's like the
old rabbit. You're a hunter, and my Papa taught me
a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
You ain't got to chase that rabbit all over place.
Just set patience. He's gonna come right back. Where he started.
And eventually football is gonna come right back to that
because they're seeing it now. More emphasis is being put
on the run. And every time you people's passing just
to be passing, just because they can spell the word pass.
We're gonna pass fast past and spread them out. But
(40:55):
there gradually, you know, the spread ain't nothing but a
new version of the old triple option. It all eventually
comes back. And no matter how fast you get, no
matter how tall you get, how big you get, you
still gotta tackle. You still gotta run. You still gotta
run and catch and throw and catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
So you know what that's funny than me and it
is not. I'm gonna say, swack fans man. Sometimes they
want to be entertained more than be good. You know,
we not being creative enough on offense. Look, man, just
find a way to put the ball in the end zone.
You don't have the good teams run the same plays
(41:36):
over and over and over again. They gonna the call seat.
You're gonna start off with fifty calls on it. When
it gets close to the end of the game, you're
gonna have three plays on your defensive call seat that
you're gonna rely on. You might have five plays. You're
gonna have two short yarded passes, two deep. I'm gonna
(41:57):
say six two deep passes or me them pass it,
and then you're gonna have two runs that you can
hang your hat on. Other than that, all that other
stuff with all the emotions and crisscross, and then you
might have that Hey, let's let's save this bootleg for lady.
In about fourth and one, fourth and three, we gotta
(42:17):
what some people call a hide route or a sneak route,
where you bring a guy behind the line of scrimmage
from one side to another, especially if they playing man
the man that you you're like, man, we hadn't showed
them miss all games. And when you run it, it's
guaranteed to uh, you can knock the gold post down
almost up. It'll get you to where you can get
(42:38):
in victory formations.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yes, sir, Now, coach, you know we've been talking these
extra those on the defensive side, there's only one defense.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
That I think has really been retired.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Uh, and all the others just they just said, they
just call them different things. But the old four to
six defense, when you tech say that one start one that's.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Been retired I think it is. Some people use it still,
but the problem with that defense is it pretty much
relegates you to playing man and man yeah, cover three,
because you have this strong State that walked down on
number on number two what we would call the number
(43:23):
two receiver if he split out. And I don't know
if you remember the year that the Bass went to
and won the championship. The only Kings that beat him
was Miami, and Miami beat him because the Baths didn't
have enough dbs to play in with all the receivers
that they had. But I mean, if you play that defense,
(43:46):
because I remember, like the All Coins and the Jackson
States when they were very good, they ran a version
of the bad defense. They didn't call it bad. It's
almost like that. They may have called it the five
to two stack of by split or something like that,
and that's pretty much what they were running. They made
it to where you hardly have anywhere to run, and
they were good enough at the cornerback stock. You got
(44:08):
to think of all the dB that Auconne was sending
to the pros at one time, and they were sent
in to the pros because they played man almost the
whole game. I remember when Marino Cavin was the head
coach at Southern. You know, we just called it a
cat defense because you got the cat and wherever he goes,
you go with it. And his reason behind that was,
if we try to teach you all these own defenses,
(44:31):
you may mess it up. But if you know you
got that, man, we could look ammediately and tell who
won or who didn't win.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
They battle, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, the whole assignment football, Sir.
It's just it's on. It's that circle. Coach, It's gonna
come back, well, coach hook Man. We have definitely covered
some ground this week, man, and I want to give
you some some closing thoughts and common in shirts.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
We give it a wrap this week's second of them.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Look, man, I was debate on going over to the
Watch Praiview and All Corns Play because it's the opening
day hunting season, opening weekend the hunting season where Adam
and I traditionally go back to louis Inna and go
hunting there. We were gonna make the trick from Matton
Ruge to All Coin depending on what time we got
(45:15):
off the woods, but uh, we're not gonna make that trip.
So hopefully it'll be a good environment for the guys.
But I keep going back to prevy fan, getting them
stands and make a difference in the ball. Don't just
come and don't just sit there. Look, me and my
wife were talking. So my wife went to Southern and
(45:36):
Jackson's state game last week while Adam and I went
to the state fact class. Mind you too, I had
to fuss at your boy because he went to the
state fac classes and didn't have a prison shirt on.
So you know what what you think? I told typical
priview fan, how how you going to a preview for
(46:00):
fotball games? You're a preview student and you don't have
and I know, you know, from coach McDonald to coach
Simmons to coach all the jokers gave a joke a
preview shirt. I gave him a privileege shirt not too
long ago. So I got to hit up coach Jackson
see if he could get your boy Adam another presview
shirt that he's dedicated for football.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
But well maybe because he got them Southern parents.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Now, look he grown now, so as y'all want to
be y'all proud. So that's that's one thing. But look,
my wife was talking about how good the crowd was
that and you know how loud it was at Southern games,
especially when it was a close game. Then she I said, well,
I couldn't tell how loud it was. The previluge fan.
(46:47):
She said she remembers coming to a preview game and
standing up and trying to get the you know, defense,
Panther's defense, you know, something along those lines. And she said, somebody,
could can you sit down? Or can't y'all? It was,
you know, h some of the other coaches wives were
at the game together and they asked them to sit down.
So it's one of those. And I talked to somebody
(47:08):
else recently that sits in a very prominent section of
the Prairiview Stadium, right right in the lower bowl. I
say lower bowl, but right in front of that, the
area where they start the drinks and the food. I'm
not privy enough to go in there, but I know
where it is. So long story short. They said they
(47:28):
tried to do the same thing and people were looking
at them like, hey, man, sit down you in a way,
I can't see what's going on third, third and five
in Prairie on defense, they trying to say defense the
sense come on and man, people looking at them like, man,
would you please sit down? So, like I said, I
want to go to a game and Prairie fans make
(47:49):
a difference in the ball game, you know, get an
off make the offense jump or the layer game because
they can't hear. That's That's what I'm talking about. So
I look, you know, like I said, I love them.
I think they got a good product. They putting a
good product. You know, don't get on the bandwagon lake
because it's gonna get heavy, it might get full, I
don't know. But make sure when you come into the game,
(48:10):
or when you tell people may come to the game
and make a difference in the game. Don't just come
and be reactionary. Oh they made a good diving catch.
Oh he made a good run, Oh he shook somebody.
Now go ahead on and encourage those guys by making noise,
especially on the defense and the offense. Make sure the
band not playing while we're on offense. I'm saying we
(48:33):
but I still you know, I'm sending some money up there,
but you know, just stuff like that. I want Prairie
fans to make a difference in the game because I
got stopped at the Cotton Bowl and somebody say, I
talk bad about Praiere fans, But man, I say, I
tell it like I said, and I have no malicious intent,
because I know what a difference a good crowd can
(48:56):
make for the environment. You know, just think if you
a recruiting you come to a game and it's no
excitement in the crowd. You know what I'm saying. That
makes a difference for me.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, it makes a difference to all of us, sir.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
And you know, I've been accused of some similar you know, accusations,
but you know, everybody's entitled to the deal.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
But you know, the one thing that really really that
they said digs deep under my skin.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
You're gonna probably think I'm crazy when I said, I
would just like us to have the proper gold.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Look, look I get. Look my sister mess with me
all the time about how many different color blues the
other had. They got navy blue, raw blue, light blue,
columbia blue, all that, you know, and then between the
golds and the yellows and all that kind of stuff.
Stuff I'm saying, where you're coming.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
From and see and to me, and I thought, if
they banded that white with that Columbia blue number on
the jersey.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That stuff ought to be banned. Man, you can't see
that stuff from the officials in the fresh box.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Eras Nah, Noah, you really can't. But you know that's
that's thirty people. But that, like I said, that's above
my pay grade, that's above my donation level.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yes sir, yes sir, and ironic because Prairie View is
playing all corn.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
And I heard one of the.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Most ridiculous comments. I said, well, how can they get
the gold, which y'all tell us we don't have access
to the gold.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
No, no, no, no, that dog don't hunt.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
And then well, you know both of them got gold,
and so you want to take the yellow gold. You know,
no disrespect. I don't want to be looking like Lsu.
I want to look like Ferry View. I want to
look like Fryview.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
And I know there was an issue between the old
Goal and you know forty nine. They got so many
little tricks that they use, but why don't you take
this instead of that? You know, all that kind of stuff.
So it's more than you think, especially when it comes
to trying to order uniforms and all that luck. And
I got a nasty letter about the black being in
(51:18):
the uniform one year, but they say, man, when I
was there, you had a stadium that nobody really wanted
to play in and be true truth Beta. So we
were trying to do some things. Hey, man, let's get
nice uniforms or different uniforms. If we don't have a
weight room that you can go into, or if we
don't have a night saying, let's try to do something
(51:39):
to make these kids, you know, like they experience it
like they That's how Oregon really sort of took off.
They start off, they started the uniform walls, and then
everybody sort of tried to go with. You know, now
you're saying very traditional teams with black uniforms. Then a
couple of years ago, I don't know if you remember,
(51:59):
smoke Great became the color in the Matt cullored hammers
where it looked like flat, not glossy. You know. So
eventually it's gonna go back to the old school looking uniforms.
People gonna find color pictures from nineteen sixty prayer and say, man,
let's make our uniforms look like this instead of what
(52:22):
we're going through. But I've heard a lot of different
things from equipment managers, because I say quite a few
of those guys I either worked with before or something
like that, you know, know, through going watching practice or
you know, when I go to a place, I might say, hey, man,
ask ahead, Coauch, Hey, you mind if I get an
old shirt and I get an equipment manager, you know,
(52:44):
twenty dollars for you know, just say a Jackson State
T shirt or something like that, because you know, all
I wear is HBCUs year. I don't wear LSU, text
A and M and all the US ahs and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
So Coach I and told you about this is a
family program. He used that harsh language.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Man. You know, look, sometimes you gotta use hardest language
to get a point across. But you know that's that's
that's just where it is though. So it'll all work
to step out in the wars that they say.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yes sir, yes sir, well, uh, we we'll definitely as
they say uh. Come to the end of this week's segment.
He is coach Heist Norman, our football guru, and you
may have heard him say.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
It is a hunting we shall go.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
But before the hunting Caesar was declared we're gonna be simulcasting.
This week's coverage from the reservation will be simulcast and
they kick off starting at three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
You can still listen to the YouTube.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
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the last name of Prince. Y'all, I'll been knocking it out, man,
(54:02):
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