October 8, 2025 • 42 mins
🎙️ Today, Coach and I recap Prairie View’s gritty road win over Alcorn, take a closer look at the troubles brewing in the state of Louisiana with Grambling and Southern, and preview an intriguing matchup between Alabama State and Jackson State — plus a whole lot more! 🏈🔥
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome back to another episode of After further Review.
We're enjoined each week by football Guru and of other
then coach Heish North.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Coach, how you doing today's show?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey man, I'm doing real good over this way, trying
to get my honey due list short so I can
enjoy this this off week weekend, per Sey. I got
a buddy in one of my college teammates is coming
to town to watch his son play. He plays for
h c U or HBU, whatever they're going by. But
we're supposed to do a little fishing Saturday morning and
(00:38):
then we're gonna go watch some high quality Southern Conference football,
as they like to say. But I you know, a
good friend of mine and his son and Adam are
good friends. We all go fishing together, so we just
I just want to go watch and play before he
finishes uh his career. And it couldn't have come at
a better time with an off week for both Southern
(00:58):
and Praierview. So I don't don't have any I'll say
anything on this castle and we got good weather, so
I'm I'm looking forward to it now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Coach, I got to ask the most revealing questions, Man,
you're gonna reveal where your fishing hole is.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I put it like that. We're going to late Summerville. Okay, okay, okay,
good leg we got we got a couple spots in
some place there we go. When people ask us up man,
where y'all getting them at, we'll say the river in
their mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Mhm h.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
M hm hm.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's a.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
That's all going around town, staying to Papa half three outside.
Why that ain't right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Of it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I think, you know, some people complain because you know,
our corn is a hard place to win, and you
know they always talk about those phantom penanties. You know,
you're playing against seventeen eighteen depending on how many referees
on the field plus eleven. But it's it's it's just
a difficult place to play, you know, no matter how
many people in the stands or you know, once they
get to play in ward chain, it's a whole.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Different ball game.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But they have the thing about it is they have
a much better team on paper than people realize. And
I think sometimes what happens, So I'm gonna just put
a disc from a player's perspective, because I know the
coaches don't do this the players can look at a
schedule and say, man, we played Northwestern and beat them.
They played Northwestern and lost to them, So if we
(03:27):
beat Northwestern, we know we could beat them. You know,
sometimes that comes into place. But those penanties, and it
didn't seem like craig Bery had. I saw one pre
sinnapp penalty where they jumped off sides laid in the
ball game. But other than that, most of the penanties
were the holding, the things that cast you big yardists,
(03:48):
the launching when they jumped over.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
The wedge, or the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Shield we called the shield on the punt team and
blocked the punt. A lot of people didn't see it happened,
but I saw it immediately once it had happened. So it's, uh,
it's just sometimes you know, guys are trying to make
the play and then sometimes guys trying not to get beat.
Then the other thing that happened some guys the runners
are not setting.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Up they block that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, that's why you end up with a lot of
hole depending I you saw, and I was a running
backs coach when I first started off, and actually a guy,
John Montgomery, who went to school at Praiview. He was
the offensive line coach my first collegiate job, and he
say heist and he called me histen Hisen. Tell them
run to the guys. But if they run to the guys,
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but we'll cut down on holding pendils run so and
the reason why he say run to the butt if
you run across to his test, that means the defensive
players on this side. And when he tried to get away,
you're gonna end up with the holding penalties. So that's
you know, that's why they came into place. So I
think you're gonna get some of those. But i'd like
(04:55):
you said, it was untimely and it cost him some
big plague, so you know that's that's gonna happen. You know,
they had they had been trending down because I think
the last two games combined they didn't have ten penalties
and now you know, I think you can come back
with nine or ten in this one game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right. They had their trending in the right direction though.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Absolutely, and that's why it was it was a lower
I gave a C minus for this past week's performance
due to that alone, more than anything. But the important
thing is you get to win. More important than you
three and oh in conference division play.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, that's that's the big thing. Like I always say,
you could teach better, and they listened better after win.
And it ain't no such such thing as a bad win.
I don't care how you cut it up. If you
win the ball game, that's that's finding there.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But like say, if we called it a hockey assist.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
If you think about it, the biggest player of the
game wasn't the misfield goal.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It was a sack that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So that was the big because had that sack not happen,
I truly believe that ball across the Gold Coast. So
you know, just small things like that to play within
the play, the the linebacker making the play on the
pass rush that creates a sack for somebody else or
all the d bems have their main cover and that
(06:23):
gives the defensive lines so they playing good. I say,
either situation or team football. And uh, I mean, I
like some of the things that I'm seeing from from
the linebackers and the safeties that previous putting out there.
They got some football players that are making some big
play for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Them, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And one thing that I always appreciate this was a
very good defensive game on both sides. It was a
very good defensive game. A lot of people don't like it.
It's not a lot of scoring, this, that and the other.
But it was a physical game. But once again, like
I said, they found they found a way to win.
But I want to touch on something that I've been
(07:04):
I guess when I last I've been accused of being
oversensitive on when I'm finally hearing the echoes from coach
Jackson and I want to get your feedback on this.
There was in response he, you know, to each his own.
He was just finding back to someone on social media,
(07:24):
and I'm paraphrasing just a little bit. He say, he,
you all keep making donations, come to the game, let
us stay on coaching, and we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Will work this out it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I do my part, y'all do y'all part, And translation
is y'all start coming to these games because.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
We don't have a bad product. And does that at some.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Point, I know what the politically correct thing to say
is it's us against the world and we can't worry
about that. But you gotta be honest, coach, does that
have some type of psychological disadvantage in this case?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
When you're not getting the home crowd like you need.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Or the participation from the crowd that you need, especially
when you're at home.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You expect that on the rod, but when at home
you need a little heart heartbreaking. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I have said yes because I have been accused of
being a preview fan Bassard, because I said along the
lines of number one, you need to get more people
in the sand, and like her say number two, you
need to pay your way up. You know, if you're
gonna complain, put some money behind your complaint. And I
(08:45):
said this earlier, and you know on the show I
do a liner. I said, the people that I don't
like are the people that buy these tickets and think
they the athletic.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Director who should be playing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Who's all the people that give I'm just one hundred
dollars and think they done gave a men, you know
what I'm saying. So it's different things like that. When
it comes to, you know, trying to coach a program
or get a program going, they headed in the right direction,
and both he and ad Golf have said, man, it
costs to win nowadays. You can't just tell a kid,
(09:19):
look here go full scholarship. We got a good program
come to Prairie But then when the kid come to Praiview,
even on the unofficial visit, he looking at stand and
there's four thousand people in the stands for a home game,
and in some cases a very important home game, a
game that can decide whether you go to the championship
game or not, and it's two thousand people.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That are on senior Day or something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So it's I understand totally where he's coming from, and
I agree with it because I think people get it
misunderstood that just because they either buy season ticket, went
to school at Prairieview or something like that, all form
a student athlete, they could stay anything they want you
and don't want to coach.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
To say anything like that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I used to tell people until my fault, look,
I'm a man before I'm a coach, and I would
tell people I'm a dad before I'm a coach.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So you're not gonna say anything to.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Me around my wife and my kids that I'm not
gonna say, Hey, man, my office right there, let me
drop them off and you could come meet me over there.
And I was wrong for saying it, But at the
same time, I meant every word that I say. So,
you know, people just feel like in this social media
oh man, when you can hide behind number one of
(10:33):
panther Fean or prayer of You for life or something
like that, when you can hide behind the end of
the name and nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Who you are, that makes it worser.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
As my dad might say, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, I just I fully understand where coach
Jackson is coming from, because I think a few coaches
before Coach Jackson have said the same thing. And I
told and I think I may have told you. When
I was at the Fast Grounds when they played in Dallas,
somebody came up to me and said, almost you know,
(11:05):
asking me like, why do I bash Praierview fans? I say,
Praier you fans. They have some passionate fans, don't get
me wrong, but in my opinion, they don't have enough
to come to games.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Sticking thing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And I mentioned that if I lived in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
every time Southern had a football game, I don't care
if they were playing Southern lab glenn O Elisu the Saint.
I'm gonna be on Southern campus to watch and support
my team, and I'm gonna put my money behind and
I don't care who the head coach is. Southern Universe
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is gonna always, to my wife's dismayed sometimes they gonna
always get a donation from the Northern family because I know,
had it not been for Southern, I probably would have
been in the military or police officer. Ain't no telling
how many people I probably would have sent to the
early grades.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You know, It's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I am thankful for what they did for me because
it had not been for them. I don't get a
coaching job at Graham if it had not been for Grammlin.
I don't get a coaching job at Preiview it had
not been for Preiview. I don't have a house and
a car that's paid for, and I have a son
that's on campus there now. So, like you said, I
and we been saying, you can go back to coach
Frazier when I first got the man that's been even
(12:20):
with the old raggedy State, that's been a gold man.
And part of the problem, and I say this during
the street part of the problem was the school was
doing so well that it's almost like the streak was
second hand to everything else. You still was putting out
productive architects. You're still not productive nurses. You still putting
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out productive engineers. And me and my wife were talking
about this the other day.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The kids that grew up.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I say, I don't know how familiar is with Scotlandville
and Baker and Zackery, which is not too far from
Southern Campus. The kids that wanted to be engineers at
Architects that didn't go to Southern, you know, as they
too close, all came to school at Praierview for the
most part. And I know, I can, you know, sort
of go down the list of the people from Baton
(13:08):
Ruge that came to Praier and I think all my
wife's teams. He actually has two prayer View Alarms owns
her team from the Baton Ruge there that she did
not know from high school, but he just knows them
from they went to school at Prairie View. Praierview d
a good dial with engineers. Let me get some of
these people on my team.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right right now when you break all that down, Coach
and I'm focusing back on Coach Jackson and not trying
to put any words in his mouth because he's in it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
For the long haul to do what he can while
at Prairiview.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But once you get to the end of your contract
and things continue to be trending as they are, does
it make you decide to hey, man, maybe I need
to take my challenge somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Most definitely, And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think this is the problem that HBCUs have in general.
And I'll just say I worked for the last day of.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
My contract pretty much before I was so, look.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We're not gonna retain your service, where other schools they
may make that decision a year or two in advance
and say here's some money you leave. So that's one
thing I do not like about HBCUSE because it almost
puts you in limbo your last year, Like how can
you actively honestly go out and recruit kids not knowing
if you're there? And I can tell you this is
(14:24):
what happens to some staffs if they are just say
if you at all coin right now. I don't know
how many years coach has left under the sash, but
he probably has some guys on his staff that are
looking for other jobs instead of doing the job that
they're supposed to do. So that's what happens on stass
(14:44):
when your head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Has no job security.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's harder to recruit when your head coach has no
job security because people gonna use that against man. Your
coach might not even be there. Why are you interested
in that school unless you know your parents or something
with that. So it's a lot of stuff like that
that go. I don't think coach Jackson is at that
point yet, and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Put words in his mouth, but I know this.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
If I was a Praview fan, I would like the
provido number one, and I would do everything I could.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
To make sure that he is successful.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And that and I would do you know, like I
said a lot of times, I don't think people if
I give to privy in a university football program, then
I make and go to my company and say, hey,
I gave X amount of dollars here, can we do
some matching funds? So can you guys buy a ticket? Especially,
like I said at two ninety cor door, if I
buy some tickets to the game, can you be guys
(15:37):
buy some other Let's do this. Let's just say buy
twenty tickets and anybody that works at this company. Let's
go out and we wear our shirts and put together
at a game or something like that. So I just think, man,
you got to the gold mine is getting golder, if
it makes sense, because you have some of the best
facilities in SCS football, no doubt about that. And and
(16:00):
in my opinion, the most important thing that coach Jackson
has and people might not want.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
To hit, is he has great vertical alignment.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The president want to see you win, the athletic director
want to see you win. And then now he has
some other personlity, he might have a hand and saying
who the trainer is at prey event he has a
great hand, and saying who the equipment manager is a
great hand, and saying who the strength and conditioning coach is.
And when you have all that, the program is yours. Well,
(16:30):
I know some coaches at the murther schools they don't
have great vertical alignment and they don't have much say
so and who the support staff is. So you know,
and I'll leave.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It right right. Well, it brought back to the line
while you were talking. He said, Hey, I'm gonna do
my part. You are the says do your part.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Then it's just better deal, you know, and and it's
it's a good bad problem, if.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like, you know, we keep hearing this potential or potential potential,
but it's either half empty half full, and if I
be pessimistic, it's half empty because it's not like it's
not competitive programs and I'm not talking about with Coach Jackson.
We can go all the way back that event competitive
(17:18):
programming and do we hear that word that's abused culture?
And really it boils down do you care? And when
I say do you care? Do you care enough.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
To put up for the team?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
If you would, then just looking out for yourself. And
I use it on another analogy. It's like going to
a pool party. Coach, You've been invited to this pool party.
You spend all this thousands of dollars to have this
pool install and pay for the water treatment you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Had his pool party.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
People show up and bathing suits, but nobody gets in
the pool.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
No one gets in the pool.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, they don't mind being there socializing, drinking and eating,
but getting wet.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now, I didn't come to get wet. That's what it
feels like.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Hey man, they could have just had a picnic, you know,
we don't need all this other stuff. We look, we
could have just we could have just said we're gonna
have a get together. We're gonna have friends and family
we can like at the church house and stuff. But
that's some way, yeah, man, you know, and and like
they haven't been there before and been in the guts
of it. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The bad thing about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You have a homecoming game and if just you know,
especially I will walk around whether we want or loss,
but especially if we won, I will walk around probably
a little bit longer or whatever. But the thing about it,
people might say good game. They don't know to score
the game, they don't know play. I didn't come in
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or I left right after halftime. And I think that's
what that's what we have to get more in tune with.
So let's get in them things. I would almost be
proposed that if you coming on Praiery Campus on homecoming day,
you gotta buy a general mission ticket to the game.
You ain't just gonna walk down. You know something that
I got up on those lines. Even if it's a
(19:16):
five dollars ticket for every car, every person that comes
on campus, you gotta pay, maybe instead of paying for
parking twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Some of that money has to go.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
To athletics, like we try to five dollars bed person
in the car to be on camper. Now, you could
like it and it might cut down on some of
the rip rad but at the end of the day,
some of that money is gonna go to the athletic
cultures that they say. So.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was even proposing coach that before you even think
about getting a tail gage spot, you only qualify if
you buy a season pass. Yeah, yeah, okay, Now you
do that, and it's all baked in and guess where.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, that way, it's all baked in, and you got
your your.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Season ticket, then you got your tailgaters, and you got
that combo deal and so everything kind of comes out
in the wash and guess what you know where.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's black people, white people, or people in general. If
I have spent my money to get a ticket to get.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
In, I'm at least walk in there after my food
is gone from the from the tailgating something to see what's.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Going on and make some noise.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So, uh, there are some creative opportunities that are there. Okay,
and once again, once once you get there, let's let's
let the people know that you are there and and
go from there and it goes to show just like
the what's that Lincoln Oaklanders?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who are we're scheduled?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That was the second UH team to come in after
North America Forodie Camp. Well, right now, Lincoln has been
canceling on games. Allegedly they're supposed to play against Corner
this week. The week after that they have Mississippi Valley,
and then after that they have Purview at homecoming. Now,
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whether they show up or not, people I know from
speaking at home they wouldn't care if Lincoln was said,
we're gonna do if they don't show up, do what
you've been doing and and have a good time. Okay,
And I know it's a missing piece, but there are
plenty programs that don't even have football that still have
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a good homecoming turn out. So you're not going to
the game, So why you complaining if they don't show up?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Look some of them jogging. If they can to the game,
they'll want to refund back. And they said put in
no other games up there, you know, man, make that
part of your donation or whatever. But I mean, I
don't know, like I said, I and I've talked to
a variety of different people about a variety of different
ways to try to get but then the fans, uh,
(21:58):
and then you know, some some tears. But I think
the biggest thing that I think is that they gonna
have to do is have to find out a way
to make some connection. When you have a sixty five
or seventy percent female student body, you have to make
a connection with them and athletics, if you're gonna expect
donations from them, you gotta put a way to hey,
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we want to have with you know, the sorority events,
the whatever you got to do to try to get
some involvement back with those females. Because you know, I
taught when I first got the period to a lot
of people don't know that, but I taught in the
human performing departments, and I taught a lot of nursing mads.
So every now and then, either at a game around
(22:43):
Houston or when Adam would be playing baseball or football,
I might run to some of my former students, mostly,
like I say, females and you know, occasionally guys. But
I had a lot of nursing students, so it's a
female dominated major, and you know, I would ask them
about coming to games or making a donation, you know,
(23:05):
and I see them riding they nice Mercedes in the
parking lot or whatever, and the response or the look
that I would get would be almost like like I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Them to go on the date or something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You know, they they're their perception of athletics is way off,
and it's like, you know, I'll get they'll get to
the nursing department or the band, but athletics, no way.
So it's you got to find a way to bridge that,
you know, togetherness from that one side to the other.
(23:38):
But I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, sir, Yes, well we'll keep on. We'll keep on
shipping and hammering away at that. We're talking with coach
heish north on after further review. Uh, we've been in
depth in the weeds of the preview situation, coach. But
I'm about to go back and your your native statement. Uh,
the water's boiling and you can almost pick your pick
(24:02):
your parson at Gramblin and Southern.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Man, how are you getting that back door?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
What's from those conversations going on?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Man? It goes back to what I said when I
talk about vertical alignments, and I speak at my own school.
I don't think person that coach Gray's has great vertical
alignment at Southern Universe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think the athletic directly in this corner.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But it's a whole lot of people that should be
in this corner.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's not anytime you.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Have a guy that's the chairman or president of the
board of supervisors publicly stating that you shouldn't have a job,
almost immediately after you had a job, I think that's
the issue. So that's gonna be and people don't realize
how that undercuts what you're trying to do. If the
(24:57):
man that's in charge don't want you to have a job,
how can you go around trying to do different things
for your program. So just say, for instance, if the president,
for whatever reason, if you go to the president say hey, Doc,
I need XYZ for our football program. Are they saying
(25:17):
no for monetary reasons? Are they saying no because they
don't want to see you be successful? And that's how
coaches get undern so and like say, this is my
opinion and I'm staying on it. If I see the
person in person, and when I talked to coach Grade,
I'll say what I.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Had just said on this phone.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So I just think it's not great birthic alignment and
a few institutions, and I speak on my institution first.
Gramley's probably gonna have some of the same things. Gramlin
is a place where they love to have Gramley people
in charge. And if you don't have enough Gramley people
on your staff, or you don't have enough of the
(25:57):
right Gramlear people in your corner, it's a hard place
to stay. You know. That's that's pretty much why Coach
Broadway left at one instance. So it's different things like that.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Had they just.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Let Coach Broadway coach football and not getting a melon
of man, you didn't win to buy you classic. You
won the West two years ago, you won a champion
two years ago. What about this year?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Man, coach Broadway? PROBB will retire that ground. So it's yeah,
like that, like that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That make a coach want to leave, or make a
coach not be successful, just the alignment of the program.
And I think that's the one good thing. I keep
going back to Coach Jackson. He has great support from
the top, and he has great support from those on
that are equal and I hate to say beneath, but
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he is subordinates, you know when it comes to the
support staff, because if you have a chance to bring
in your people, they gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Be more lawyer to you than just that paycheck offs.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right right, Well, when you when you bring up that
challenge where Round and Knights won't ground the Knights in
the mix, Southern Knights want Southern Night. That's almost the
story across the board. Though, people like that.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Home wrong or the home homeboy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Coming home or the homegirl coming home to be involved
in the program. And in all cases it might not
even be the best shit. Let it all a good shit,
but because the alarm, we create spots for them, and
that's not a good way of producing any type of business.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think you can do it in certain instance. I
put it like this, I don't think Southern and Hell
been on having Southern people until be the head coach.
I think they are first of all, they want winners,
and then I think subconscience, they may want a couple
of guys that may have played there with They have
quite a few guys, don't the stab that plays there.
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But I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Goes back to that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think a lot of times because of the powers,
and Louisiana in general is a very heavily politicized place.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I can say I agree.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
With you on some points more grand side, but I
think the Southern they just want winners and they'll let politics.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Getting away of good person their decisions. So and just say,
like if.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I went to coach that Southern, being a Southern alone,
people will automatically assume that I had everything needed to
be successful. And I think had I taken a job
at one time, it may have been like that. But
if I was to go there now, I know there
are some people that would say obstacles in my way
of being successful.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
And that's my personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, Okay, So it's got some deep waters on that
that that baton Rouge campus.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Huh yeah, look and you look and they filled with
alligators and snakes, so you better treadize.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that right there, Like I said, Coach Grays is
a good coach, a good coach, but it's always some
uphel climbs. If you would slippery uphill clients when it
seemed like you got some internal strife to deal with.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Meanwhile, you reach across time bluff.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And I like to call coach, you know, in no
disrespector he just happy, feel good. And you can't be happy,
feel good every week unless you just know, hey, man,
ain't nothing else we can do, so I might as
well try to stay optimistic.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, And and you know.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I don't know if you know Doug Porter, who the
head coach at Fort Valley when they made a good run. Uh,
but he would always he came. He would come back
to Grammar because he left Grammar to be head coach.
They have Think Valley in Fort Valley. Uh, but he
always would come to practice, especially after a loss, and
he would pit the coaches down like he the head coach, like, hey, guys,
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you know, very soft spoken guys. They gonna follow your lead.
So they're gonna follow your lead when you win. They're
gonna follow your lead when you lose.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But they need you more when they lose.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You can't go around there if you're not a heavy cusser,
you can't go out there and you know, just start
cussing down him because you lost the football game. Or
you can't go down there if you're a rod Rock guy.
You can't go.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Unrid rochets because you lost the game.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So he would always be yourself, be who you are,
and they need more pats on the back than kicks
in the book. So that's that's just that's the way
he lives. I mean, and I just think that certain people,
no matter what goes on, they're gonna be matter of
fact and they're gonna be who they are. They're not
gonna change because wins and losses don't determine their personality.
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Their personality is. So man, I care for you. I
want to see you do well. Now, it's tough being
that if that's what he is, because you know, the
little clips of the game that I saw the other day,
I mean, you know, you got guys in place that's
just not making plays. You know, almost as a coach,
you are that what what.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Can I do?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But I didn't see them losing. I think the score
of fifty to seven something. I did one to seven.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, that was that happen.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, So that's you know, it made me some more
internal stuff going on, where you know, sometimes the guys.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Would cash out.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But I tell a guy, hey, man, don't let a
coach determine how hard or how well you play, whether
you like him or not or don't like this, Because
if you're thinking about jumping in the transfer prot the
first thing they're going to do, So let me see
how you play.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So if you.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Don't have no femin to send out there, you're gonna
be stuck right there doing the same thing complain.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I used to always tell guys, man.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You're probably one of the main ones in the locker
one talking bad about the coaches. And then look at
what you're putting.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
On fences right right, right right now, coach another strange
piece of fruit.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At least to me, it's what's going on, and fam.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You man, I don't. I just think they hadn't found
the right trigger man. And even when they won with
coach Willie, with Moosseer, I didn't like that. I didn't
think he was the best quarterback because they could do
so many other things where you could hide him because
you could run the ball where you had an outstanding
screen game. And I just don't think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That he is.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Getting the play that I would say he expected. And
it maybe it might be something he might need to
let some guys go, who whether they might be unhappy
that they were not promoted, they not the head coach,
different things like that. So I just if that's one
of those places. Once again, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
More to it than what's going on.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And those people in Tallahasse can be loud, and then
sometimes your players can hear your fans being loud, and
some the worst part about it, a lot of times they.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be loud and wrong. So that let make the worst
for the head coach.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But you know everybody think they show up on Saturday
and no more football than the guy that that's what
he does for a living. But I just find that funny.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But yeah, that's funny across the board, man, And we
cannot go without what It's gotta be a highlighted game
of a week, game of the season if you would,
this week between the Alabama State and Jackson State. Jackson
State's homecoming and unfortunately, this is probably gonna determine who
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wins the East because with the way these two teams
are playing, it's almost like you want to see them
play in the championship game.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But man, this is gonna be a heated contest this weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well you always have if you think about it. You know,
to the days when preview one the Championship, I went
to the Champship, it was always that Prairie versus Grandma
Preiview versus Southern that was determined that you gotta win
a big one before you get to the big ones.
So like say, if you're gonna win championships, you gotta
play against good teams. Like say, man, I wish that
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game was being played in Houston because I know I
would go to it. I'm I might try to see
if I could squeeze in a little bit of it.
But I think that's gonna be a good game because
they match up where it's gonna be some shoulder pass clacking,
and that's gonna be a great part of that game
because both of them can run the ball, both of
them defense can play well in spots, and both of
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them defense can leave a lot to be desired a spot.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But I think it's.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Gonna it's gonna be close. It's gonna be who can
who can contain the other team's quarterback and running game
and a quarterback run game.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I don't now.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
It may be a few pass I think Alabama State
has the edge and a short passing game, while Jack
the State has the edge and a deep passing game.
When you gotta joke like savage and what's gonna happen
is whoever has to play covers three or coup of one.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I think that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Be the one that's gonna end up being in trouble
because those short passes by Alabama State, those screens gonna
turn in the loans and once one guy miss the tackle,
and then with Jackson on offense, they gonna be able
to go up top because it's gonna be some one
on matchup, one on one matchups on the outside. And
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that's what I saw last week when they played a
and them. You know, Savage had not been making a
lot of players or getting the ball, and then lo
and behold, he goes two touchdowns and every time I
saw him score he was one on one with the
corner back outside. So it's gonna be some good play.
I think the ball gonna be you gotta defend fifty
three and a third and it's gonna be a good.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Game in my opinion, absolutely one of those games. Coach,
if I have to make a pick, I would have
to take Jackson something because they're at home.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Hey man.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But the thing about it too, you gotta you gotta
realize if you go back a little bit to the the.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Versus Eddie Robinson Junior.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
To you, Huh, that's what I would call it the
swack Bowl. I think from that to being a lot
on the line. Plus is Jackson State home coming. And
I always said Jackson was one of my favorite places
to play and coach as uh, you know, just coming
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up through the ranks, you know, being in that stadium
when it's rocking. Man, it ain't too many other places. Besides,
I would say the dawns that can get as loud.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
As that place right right right.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So it's definitely gonna be interesting. And I know you're
gonna be out there on that water in Summerville, man,
but hope you can sneak some in and and don't
take all the fish, man, say some for the.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Folks out there in Summerville. Don't don't bring it all back.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Look, man, I gotta get some I gotta get some
fish for this post homecoming fish fry I'm trying to
have at my house. So look, and I'm gonna put
it like this, So I'm supposed to take take my
license to cab and I can feel a handgun licensed
class on Sunday after Previeue homecoming.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But I just told my wife I think.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm a cancer that class because I want to have
some people about the house. But if I go out
there and catch a mess of fist, it's definitely gonna
get cancer. So look, just keep that up, keep that
in mind for that Sunday after previews Homecoming, because look,
I my wife, you know I told you earlier she
wanted to get a spot and get a camper and
all that from Prairiege Homecoming. Well the spots went faster
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than she thought and we didn't get a spot. So
I been telling people, I'll trade somebody, and I know
I can always go over there with Ms Wander, with
the Panther backers. I can always go over there with
Doctor Caville and Doc Maid's and his crew, and I
can go over that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Look, some of them guys that I produce are help produce,
look them jokes working in the offield. So I know
I can go over there with you. Anybody else got
a good tailgate spot that they want me to come.
I'm not gonna drink because I'm gonna call the game.
But if you if you come to Southern home Coming
and then you let me know where y'all gonna.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Be at a Preirie home coming. We could work a
deal out.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But that's that's that's my plans right now.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well that sounds like a good plan because shrieking up
Southern's homecoming, our next go to broadcast will be on
the bluff coach, And you think your Southern Night's gonna
hear you a hard time when you show up, man.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I know, I mean I'm gonna work it out. Look,
I go almost anywhere in bad Rue as long as
I throw my last name around. Because most people, they
gonna know my dad because he worked at x UN
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And he coached the league football.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They know, they gonna know my Mamy because he had
a catering business. They gonna know my brother because he
played at l s U and on the north end
of town. They gonna know me because, like say, some
people when they see me and they see Northern, they say,
which one of you l s U or Southern. So
it's sort of a little the running token of family.
And then a lot of people don't know my sisters.
So my sister is yr saw Raw. She the first
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sorority house is actually I can walk from Southern campus
to the Zeta sorority house, so you know a lot
of people know her because of the work that she
did following in my mom's footsteps. So if you go
anywhere on Southern campus, it's a whole lot of data
that are in the financial aid, housing scholarships. You pretty
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much name it. So, uh, they'll be all right. Now,
I'm gonna tell you this now most of the day,
I'm gonna have a Southern shirt on. So and I'm
gonna invite your son to our tailgate spot when he
gets Look, we're gonna make your work.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Look now, now we.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Got to reverse the courage we then took Adam. You're
gonna try to take my son.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Man, No, man, look look now, why Adams?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Look, this is your boy.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I call him your boy? Now why this joking? And
called my daddy and asking him can like him and
three of his friends come stay at my dad's house,
which it's probably about a five minute drive. So look,
we gonna enjoy. We gonna enjoy them, and we gonna
we gonna I'm gonna say, we're gonna show them how
homecoming really supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay, then well we're gonna look forward to it either way, Coach.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
And as always, we appreciate everything that you helped do
with up share at the open mic Man, it is
greatly greatly appreciated, and the fans even appreciate you man
on this show on the play call. And let me
ask you this before we get out here, what is
your experience been like being on board at the open
mic Look Man.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I enjoyed it look number one to get me out
of the house a little bit. So I like and
I like calling the game. And then just the way
that I think I can break things down to people,
Like somebody's talked to me about to show that you
and I did about just talking about cover one through five,
and they can they can see it, And I think
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I can help people visualize what happened in the simplest
way in twenty seconds. I can say, right, they blessed
off the EDGs cornerback blew it up, or you know
that the defensive tackle got penetration, that's why the play
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Just different things like that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
But I like it just from a standpoint of it's
I think it's gonna get me to where eventually. My
end goal has always been to be I Let It
director or to be on the TV side of football.
After football I was done coaching, so I really enjoyed
getting there. And then like say, when when I see
people and they tell me I heard you in Mike Prince,
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I like what you said, or you know why you
like this or why you say that? You know, man,
I'm part of the deal is man. I'm I'm I'm
truthful and sometimes to a fault. I always tell people
my wife is seven months pregnant and asks me to
do this dress make me look like a press, and
I tell you know, it's your summing sticking out there,
make you look like that's being a nuts here. I'm
(41:51):
gonna tell it like it is. And uh, you know
you you did with the consequence. So if you don't
want the truth, go ask somebody else.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I know we appreciated and love that about to coach.
He is our guru for football.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Coach Heights Northern. I am the radio guy, Doctor Mike Prince.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
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Speaker 5 (42:29):
Three two four zero five.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
With that, Bend said the time has come when we
must exit stage left. So until the next time you guys,
be blessed and we'll see you on the other side.
And welcome back to another episode of After further Review.
We're enjoined each week by football Guru and of other
then coach Heish North.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Coach, how you doing today's show?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hey man, I'm doing real good over this way, trying
to get my honey due list short so I can
enjoy this this off week weekend, per Sey. I got
a buddy in one of my college teammates is coming
to town to watch his son play. He plays for
h c U or HBU, whatever they're going by. But
we're supposed to do a little fishing Saturday morning and
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then we're gonna go watch some high quality Southern Conference football,
as they like to say. But I you know, a
good friend of mine and his son and Adam are
good friends. We all go fishing together, so we just
I just want to go watch and play before he
finishes uh his career. And it couldn't have come at
a better time with an off week for both Southern
(00:58):
and Praierview. So I don't don't have any I'll say
anything on this castle and we got good weather, so
I'm I'm looking forward to it now.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Coach, I got to ask the most revealing questions, Man,
you're gonna reveal where your fishing hole is.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I put it like that. We're going to late Summerville. Okay, okay, okay,
good leg we got we got a couple spots in
some place there we go. When people ask us up man,
where y'all getting them at, we'll say the river in
their mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Mhm h.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
M hm hm.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's a.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
That's all going around town, staying to Papa half three outside.
Why that ain't right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Of it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I think, you know, some people complain because you know,
our corn is a hard place to win, and you
know they always talk about those phantom penanties. You know,
you're playing against seventeen eighteen depending on how many referees
on the field plus eleven. But it's it's it's just
a difficult place to play, you know, no matter how
many people in the stands or you know, once they
get to play in ward chain, it's a whole.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Different ball game.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But they have the thing about it is they have
a much better team on paper than people realize. And
I think sometimes what happens, So I'm gonna just put
a disc from a player's perspective, because I know the
coaches don't do this the players can look at a
schedule and say, man, we played Northwestern and beat them.
They played Northwestern and lost to them, So if we
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beat Northwestern, we know we could beat them. You know,
sometimes that comes into place. But those penanties, and it
didn't seem like craig Bery had. I saw one pre
sinnapp penalty where they jumped off sides laid in the
ball game. But other than that, most of the penanties
were the holding, the things that cast you big yardists,
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the launching when they jumped over.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
The wedge, or the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Shield we called the shield on the punt team and
blocked the punt. A lot of people didn't see it happened,
but I saw it immediately once it had happened. So it's, uh,
it's just sometimes you know, guys are trying to make
the play and then sometimes guys trying not to get beat.
Then the other thing that happened some guys the runners
are not setting.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Up they block that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, that's why you end up with a lot of
hole depending I you saw, and I was a running
backs coach when I first started off, and actually a guy,
John Montgomery, who went to school at Praiview. He was
the offensive line coach my first collegiate job, and he
say heist and he called me histen Hisen. Tell them
run to the guys. But if they run to the guys,
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but we'll cut down on holding pendils run so and
the reason why he say run to the butt if
you run across to his test, that means the defensive
players on this side. And when he tried to get away,
you're gonna end up with the holding penalties. So that's
you know, that's why they came into place. So I
think you're gonna get some of those. But i'd like
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you said, it was untimely and it cost him some
big plague, so you know that's that's gonna happen. You know,
they had they had been trending down because I think
the last two games combined they didn't have ten penalties
and now you know, I think you can come back
with nine or ten in this one game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right. They had their trending in the right direction though.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Absolutely, and that's why it was it was a lower
I gave a C minus for this past week's performance
due to that alone, more than anything. But the important
thing is you get to win. More important than you
three and oh in conference division play.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, that's that's the big thing. Like I always say,
you could teach better, and they listened better after win.
And it ain't no such such thing as a bad win.
I don't care how you cut it up. If you
win the ball game, that's that's finding there.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But like say, if we called it a hockey assist.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
If you think about it, the biggest player of the
game wasn't the misfield goal.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It was a sack that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So that was the big because had that sack not happen,
I truly believe that ball across the Gold Coast. So
you know, just small things like that to play within
the play, the the linebacker making the play on the
pass rush that creates a sack for somebody else or
all the d bems have their main cover and that
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gives the defensive lines so they playing good. I say,
either situation or team football. And uh, I mean, I
like some of the things that I'm seeing from from
the linebackers and the safeties that previous putting out there.
They got some football players that are making some big
play for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Them, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And one thing that I always appreciate this was a
very good defensive game on both sides. It was a
very good defensive game. A lot of people don't like it.
It's not a lot of scoring, this, that and the other.
But it was a physical game. But once again, like
I said, they found they found a way to win.
But I want to touch on something that I've been
(07:04):
I guess when I last I've been accused of being
oversensitive on when I'm finally hearing the echoes from coach
Jackson and I want to get your feedback on this.
There was in response he, you know, to each his own.
He was just finding back to someone on social media,
(07:24):
and I'm paraphrasing just a little bit. He say, he,
you all keep making donations, come to the game, let
us stay on coaching, and we.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Will work this out it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I do my part, y'all do y'all part, And translation
is y'all start coming to these games because.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
We don't have a bad product. And does that at some.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Point, I know what the politically correct thing to say
is it's us against the world and we can't worry
about that. But you gotta be honest, coach, does that
have some type of psychological disadvantage in this case?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
When you're not getting the home crowd like you need.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Or the participation from the crowd that you need, especially
when you're at home.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You expect that on the rod, but when at home
you need a little heart heartbreaking. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I have said yes because I have been accused of
being a preview fan Bassard, because I said along the
lines of number one, you need to get more people
in the sand, and like her say number two, you
need to pay your way up. You know, if you're
gonna complain, put some money behind your complaint. And I
(08:45):
said this earlier, and you know on the show I
do a liner. I said, the people that I don't
like are the people that buy these tickets and think
they the athletic.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Director who should be playing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Who's all the people that give I'm just one hundred
dollars and think they done gave a men, you know
what I'm saying. So it's different things like that. When
it comes to, you know, trying to coach a program
or get a program going, they headed in the right direction,
and both he and ad Golf have said, man, it
costs to win nowadays. You can't just tell a kid,
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look here go full scholarship. We got a good program
come to Prairie But then when the kid come to Praiview,
even on the unofficial visit, he looking at stand and
there's four thousand people in the stands for a home game,
and in some cases a very important home game, a
game that can decide whether you go to the championship
game or not, and it's two thousand people.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That are on senior Day or something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So it's I understand totally where he's coming from, and
I agree with it because I think people get it
misunderstood that just because they either buy season ticket, went
to school at Prairieview or something like that, all form
a student athlete, they could stay anything they want you
and don't want to coach.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
To say anything like that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
But I used to tell people until my fault, look,
I'm a man before I'm a coach, and I would
tell people I'm a dad before I'm a coach.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So you're not gonna say anything to.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Me around my wife and my kids that I'm not
gonna say, Hey, man, my office right there, let me
drop them off and you could come meet me over there.
And I was wrong for saying it, But at the
same time, I meant every word that I say. So,
you know, people just feel like in this social media
oh man, when you can hide behind number one of
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panther Fean or prayer of You for life or something
like that, when you can hide behind the end of
the name and nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Who you are, that makes it worser.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
As my dad might say, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, I just I fully understand where coach
Jackson is coming from, because I think a few coaches
before Coach Jackson have said the same thing. And I
told and I think I may have told you. When
I was at the Fast Grounds when they played in Dallas,
somebody came up to me and said, almost you know,
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asking me like, why do I bash Praierview fans? I say,
Praier you fans. They have some passionate fans, don't get
me wrong, but in my opinion, they don't have enough
to come to games.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Sticking thing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And I mentioned that if I lived in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
every time Southern had a football game, I don't care
if they were playing Southern lab glenn O Elisu the Saint.
I'm gonna be on Southern campus to watch and support
my team, and I'm gonna put my money behind and
I don't care who the head coach is. Southern Universe
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is gonna always, to my wife's dismayed sometimes they gonna
always get a donation from the Northern family because I know,
had it not been for Southern, I probably would have
been in the military or police officer. Ain't no telling
how many people I probably would have sent to the
early grades.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You know, It's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I am thankful for what they did for me because
it had not been for them. I don't get a
coaching job at Graham if it had not been for Grammlin.
I don't get a coaching job at Preiview it had
not been for Preiview. I don't have a house and
a car that's paid for, and I have a son
that's on campus there now. So, like you said, I
and we been saying, you can go back to coach
Frazier when I first got the man that's been even
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with the old raggedy State, that's been a gold man.
And part of the problem, and I say this during
the street part of the problem was the school was
doing so well that it's almost like the streak was
second hand to everything else. You still was putting out
productive architects. You're still not productive nurses. You still putting
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out productive engineers. And me and my wife were talking
about this the other day.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The kids that grew up.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I say, I don't know how familiar is with Scotlandville
and Baker and Zackery, which is not too far from
Southern Campus. The kids that wanted to be engineers at
Architects that didn't go to Southern, you know, as they
too close, all came to school at Praierview for the
most part. And I know, I can, you know, sort
of go down the list of the people from Baton
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Ruge that came to Praier and I think all my
wife's teams. He actually has two prayer View Alarms owns
her team from the Baton Ruge there that she did
not know from high school, but he just knows them
from they went to school at Prairie View. Praierview d
a good dial with engineers. Let me get some of
these people on my team.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right right now when you break all that down, Coach
and I'm focusing back on Coach Jackson and not trying
to put any words in his mouth because he's in it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
For the long haul to do what he can while
at Prairiview.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But once you get to the end of your contract
and things continue to be trending as they are, does
it make you decide to hey, man, maybe I need
to take my challenge somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Most definitely, And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I think this is the problem that HBCUs have in general.
And I'll just say I worked for the last day of.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
My contract pretty much before I was so, look.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
We're not gonna retain your service, where other schools they
may make that decision a year or two in advance
and say here's some money you leave. So that's one
thing I do not like about HBCUSE because it almost
puts you in limbo your last year, Like how can
you actively honestly go out and recruit kids not knowing
if you're there? And I can tell you this is
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what happens to some staffs if they are just say
if you at all coin right now. I don't know
how many years coach has left under the sash, but
he probably has some guys on his staff that are
looking for other jobs instead of doing the job that
they're supposed to do. So that's what happens on stass
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when your head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Has no job security.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's harder to recruit when your head coach has no
job security because people gonna use that against man. Your
coach might not even be there. Why are you interested
in that school unless you know your parents or something
with that. So it's a lot of stuff like that
that go. I don't think coach Jackson is at that
point yet, and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Put words in his mouth, but I know this.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
If I was a Praview fan, I would like the
provido number one, and I would do everything I could.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
To make sure that he is successful.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And that and I would do you know, like I
said a lot of times, I don't think people if
I give to privy in a university football program, then
I make and go to my company and say, hey,
I gave X amount of dollars here, can we do
some matching funds? So can you guys buy a ticket? Especially,
like I said at two ninety cor door, if I
buy some tickets to the game, can you be guys
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buy some other Let's do this. Let's just say buy
twenty tickets and anybody that works at this company. Let's
go out and we wear our shirts and put together
at a game or something like that. So I just think, man,
you got to the gold mine is getting golder, if
it makes sense, because you have some of the best
facilities in SCS football, no doubt about that. And and
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in my opinion, the most important thing that coach Jackson
has and people might not want.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
To hit, is he has great vertical alignment.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The president want to see you win, the athletic director
want to see you win. And then now he has
some other personlity, he might have a hand and saying
who the trainer is at prey event he has a
great hand, and saying who the equipment manager is a
great hand, and saying who the strength and conditioning coach is.
And when you have all that, the program is yours. Well,
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I know some coaches at the murther schools they don't
have great vertical alignment and they don't have much say
so and who the support staff is. So you know,
and I'll leave.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It right right. Well, it brought back to the line
while you were talking. He said, Hey, I'm gonna do
my part. You are the says do your part.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Then it's just better deal, you know, and and it's
it's a good bad problem, if.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like, you know, we keep hearing this potential or potential potential,
but it's either half empty half full, and if I
be pessimistic, it's half empty because it's not like it's
not competitive programs and I'm not talking about with Coach Jackson.
We can go all the way back that event competitive
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programming and do we hear that word that's abused culture?
And really it boils down do you care? And when
I say do you care? Do you care enough.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
To put up for the team?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
If you would, then just looking out for yourself. And
I use it on another analogy. It's like going to
a pool party. Coach, You've been invited to this pool party.
You spend all this thousands of dollars to have this
pool install and pay for the water treatment you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Had his pool party.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
People show up and bathing suits, but nobody gets in
the pool.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
No one gets in the pool.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, they don't mind being there socializing, drinking and eating,
but getting wet.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Now, I didn't come to get wet. That's what it
feels like.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Hey man, they could have just had a picnic, you know,
we don't need all this other stuff. We look, we
could have just we could have just said we're gonna
have a get together. We're gonna have friends and family
we can like at the church house and stuff. But
that's some way, yeah, man, you know, and and like
they haven't been there before and been in the guts
of it. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
The bad thing about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You have a homecoming game and if just you know,
especially I will walk around whether we want or loss,
but especially if we won, I will walk around probably
a little bit longer or whatever. But the thing about it,
people might say good game. They don't know to score
the game, they don't know play. I didn't come in
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or I left right after halftime. And I think that's
what that's what we have to get more in tune with.
So let's get in them things. I would almost be
proposed that if you coming on Praiery Campus on homecoming day,
you gotta buy a general mission ticket to the game.
You ain't just gonna walk down. You know something that
I got up on those lines. Even if it's a
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five dollars ticket for every car, every person that comes
on campus, you gotta pay, maybe instead of paying for
parking twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Some of that money has to go.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
To athletics, like we try to five dollars bed person
in the car to be on camper. Now, you could
like it and it might cut down on some of
the rip rad but at the end of the day,
some of that money is gonna go to the athletic
cultures that they say. So.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was even proposing coach that before you even think
about getting a tail gage spot, you only qualify if
you buy a season pass. Yeah, yeah, okay, Now you
do that, and it's all baked in and guess where.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, that way, it's all baked in, and you got
your your.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Season ticket, then you got your tailgaters, and you got
that combo deal and so everything kind of comes out
in the wash and guess what you know where.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's black people, white people, or people in general. If
I have spent my money to get a ticket to get.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
In, I'm at least walk in there after my food
is gone from the from the tailgating something to see what's.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Going on and make some noise.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So, uh, there are some creative opportunities that are there. Okay,
and once again, once once you get there, let's let's
let the people know that you are there and and
go from there and it goes to show just like
the what's that Lincoln Oaklanders?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who are we're scheduled?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That was the second UH team to come in after
North America Forodie Camp. Well, right now, Lincoln has been
canceling on games. Allegedly they're supposed to play against Corner
this week. The week after that they have Mississippi Valley,
and then after that they have Purview at homecoming. Now,
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whether they show up or not, people I know from
speaking at home they wouldn't care if Lincoln was said,
we're gonna do if they don't show up, do what
you've been doing and and have a good time. Okay,
And I know it's a missing piece, but there are
plenty programs that don't even have football that still have
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a good homecoming turn out. So you're not going to
the game, So why you complaining if they don't show up?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Look some of them jogging. If they can to the game,
they'll want to refund back. And they said put in
no other games up there, you know, man, make that
part of your donation or whatever. But I mean, I
don't know, like I said, I and I've talked to
a variety of different people about a variety of different
ways to try to get but then the fans, uh,
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and then you know, some some tears. But I think
the biggest thing that I think is that they gonna
have to do is have to find out a way
to make some connection. When you have a sixty five
or seventy percent female student body, you have to make
a connection with them and athletics, if you're gonna expect
donations from them, you gotta put a way to hey,
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we want to have with you know, the sorority events,
the whatever you got to do to try to get
some involvement back with those females. Because you know, I
taught when I first got the period to a lot
of people don't know that, but I taught in the
human performing departments, and I taught a lot of nursing mads.
So every now and then, either at a game around
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Houston or when Adam would be playing baseball or football,
I might run to some of my former students, mostly,
like I say, females and you know, occasionally guys. But
I had a lot of nursing students, so it's a
female dominated major, and you know, I would ask them
about coming to games or making a donation, you know,
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and I see them riding they nice Mercedes in the
parking lot or whatever, and the response or the look
that I would get would be almost like like I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Them to go on the date or something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You know, they they're their perception of athletics is way off,
and it's like, you know, I'll get they'll get to
the nursing department or the band, but athletics, no way.
So it's you got to find a way to bridge that,
you know, togetherness from that one side to the other.
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But I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, sir, Yes, well we'll keep on. We'll keep on
shipping and hammering away at that. We're talking with coach
heish north on after further review. Uh, we've been in
depth in the weeds of the preview situation, coach. But
I'm about to go back and your your native statement. Uh,
the water's boiling and you can almost pick your pick
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your parson at Gramblin and Southern.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Man, how are you getting that back door?
Speaker 5 (24:09):
What's from those conversations going on?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Man? It goes back to what I said when I
talk about vertical alignments, and I speak at my own school.
I don't think person that coach Gray's has great vertical
alignment at Southern Universe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think the athletic directly in this corner.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But it's a whole lot of people that should be
in this corner.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's not anytime you.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Have a guy that's the chairman or president of the
board of supervisors publicly stating that you shouldn't have a job,
almost immediately after you had a job, I think that's
the issue. So that's gonna be and people don't realize
how that undercuts what you're trying to do. If the
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man that's in charge don't want you to have a job,
how can you go around trying to do different things
for your program. So just say, for instance, if the president,
for whatever reason, if you go to the president say hey, Doc,
I need XYZ for our football program. Are they saying
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no for monetary reasons? Are they saying no because they
don't want to see you be successful? And that's how
coaches get undern so and like say, this is my
opinion and I'm staying on it. If I see the
person in person, and when I talked to coach Grade,
I'll say what I.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Had just said on this phone.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So I just think it's not great birthic alignment and
a few institutions, and I speak on my institution first.
Gramley's probably gonna have some of the same things. Gramlin
is a place where they love to have Gramley people
in charge. And if you don't have enough Gramley people
on your staff, or you don't have enough of the
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right Gramlear people in your corner, it's a hard place
to stay. You know. That's that's pretty much why Coach
Broadway left at one instance. So it's different things like that.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Had they just.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Let Coach Broadway coach football and not getting a melon
of man, you didn't win to buy you classic. You
won the West two years ago, you won a champion
two years ago. What about this year?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Man, coach Broadway? PROBB will retire that ground. So it's yeah,
like that, like that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That make a coach want to leave, or make a
coach not be successful, just the alignment of the program.
And I think that's the one good thing. I keep
going back to Coach Jackson. He has great support from
the top, and he has great support from those on
that are equal and I hate to say beneath, but
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he is subordinates, you know when it comes to the
support staff, because if you have a chance to bring
in your people, they gonna.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Be more lawyer to you than just that paycheck offs.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right right, Well, when you when you bring up that
challenge where Round and Knights won't ground the Knights in
the mix, Southern Knights want Southern Night. That's almost the
story across the board. Though, people like that.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Home wrong or the home homeboy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Coming home or the homegirl coming home to be involved
in the program. And in all cases it might not
even be the best shit. Let it all a good shit,
but because the alarm, we create spots for them, and
that's not a good way of producing any type of business.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think you can do it in certain instance. I
put it like this, I don't think Southern and Hell
been on having Southern people until be the head coach.
I think they are first of all, they want winners,
and then I think subconscience, they may want a couple
of guys that may have played there with They have
quite a few guys, don't the stab that plays there.
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But I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Goes back to that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I think a lot of times because of the powers,
and Louisiana in general is a very heavily politicized place.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I can say I agree.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
With you on some points more grand side, but I
think the Southern they just want winners and they'll let politics.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Getting away of good person their decisions. So and just say,
like if.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I went to coach that Southern, being a Southern alone,
people will automatically assume that I had everything needed to
be successful. And I think had I taken a job
at one time, it may have been like that. But
if I was to go there now, I know there
are some people that would say obstacles in my way
of being successful.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
And that's my personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, Okay, So it's got some deep waters on that
that that baton Rouge campus.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Huh yeah, look and you look and they filled with
alligators and snakes, so you better treadize.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that right there, Like I said, Coach Grays is
a good coach, a good coach, but it's always some
uphel climbs. If you would slippery uphill clients when it
seemed like you got some internal strife to deal with.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Meanwhile, you reach across time bluff.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And I like to call coach, you know, in no
disrespector he just happy, feel good. And you can't be happy,
feel good every week unless you just know, hey, man,
ain't nothing else we can do, so I might as
well try to stay optimistic.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, And and you know.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I don't know if you know Doug Porter, who the
head coach at Fort Valley when they made a good run. Uh,
but he would always he came. He would come back
to Grammar because he left Grammar to be head coach.
They have Think Valley in Fort Valley. Uh, but he
always would come to practice, especially after a loss, and
he would pit the coaches down like he the head coach, like, hey, guys,
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you know, very soft spoken guys. They gonna follow your lead.
So they're gonna follow your lead when you win. They're
gonna follow your lead when you lose.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But they need you more when they lose.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You can't go around there if you're not a heavy cusser,
you can't go out there and you know, just start
cussing down him because you lost the football game. Or
you can't go down there if you're a rod Rock guy.
You can't go.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Unrid rochets because you lost the game.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So he would always be yourself, be who you are,
and they need more pats on the back than kicks
in the book. So that's that's just that's the way
he lives. I mean, and I just think that certain people,
no matter what goes on, they're gonna be matter of
fact and they're gonna be who they are. They're not
gonna change because wins and losses don't determine their personality.
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Their personality is. So man, I care for you. I
want to see you do well. Now, it's tough being
that if that's what he is, because you know, the
little clips of the game that I saw the other day,
I mean, you know, you got guys in place that's
just not making plays. You know, almost as a coach,
you are that what what.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Can I do?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But I didn't see them losing. I think the score
of fifty to seven something. I did one to seven.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, that was that happen.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, So that's you know, it made me some more
internal stuff going on, where you know, sometimes the guys.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Would cash out.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But I tell a guy, hey, man, don't let a
coach determine how hard or how well you play, whether
you like him or not or don't like this, Because
if you're thinking about jumping in the transfer prot the
first thing they're going to do, So let me see
how you play.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So if you.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Don't have no femin to send out there, you're gonna
be stuck right there doing the same thing complain.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I used to always tell guys, man.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You're probably one of the main ones in the locker
one talking bad about the coaches. And then look at
what you're putting.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
On fences right right, right right now, coach another strange
piece of fruit.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
At least to me, it's what's going on, and fam.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
You man, I don't. I just think they hadn't found
the right trigger man. And even when they won with
coach Willie, with Moosseer, I didn't like that. I didn't
think he was the best quarterback because they could do
so many other things where you could hide him because
you could run the ball where you had an outstanding
screen game. And I just don't think.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That he is.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Getting the play that I would say he expected. And
it maybe it might be something he might need to
let some guys go, who whether they might be unhappy
that they were not promoted, they not the head coach,
different things like that. So I just if that's one
of those places. Once again, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
More to it than what's going on.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And those people in Tallahasse can be loud, and then
sometimes your players can hear your fans being loud, and
some the worst part about it, a lot of times they.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be loud and wrong. So that let make the worst
for the head coach.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But you know everybody think they show up on Saturday
and no more football than the guy that that's what
he does for a living. But I just find that funny.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But yeah, that's funny across the board, man, And we
cannot go without what It's gotta be a highlighted game
of a week, game of the season if you would,
this week between the Alabama State and Jackson State. Jackson
State's homecoming and unfortunately, this is probably gonna determine who
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wins the East because with the way these two teams
are playing, it's almost like you want to see them
play in the championship game.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But man, this is gonna be a heated contest this weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well you always have if you think about it. You know,
to the days when preview one the Championship, I went
to the Champship, it was always that Prairie versus Grandma
Preiview versus Southern that was determined that you gotta win
a big one before you get to the big ones.
So like say, if you're gonna win championships, you gotta
play against good teams. Like say, man, I wish that
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game was being played in Houston because I know I
would go to it. I'm I might try to see
if I could squeeze in a little bit of it.
But I think that's gonna be a good game because
they match up where it's gonna be some shoulder pass clacking,
and that's gonna be a great part of that game
because both of them can run the ball, both of
them defense can play well in spots, and both of
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them defense can leave a lot to be desired a spot.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But I think it's.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Gonna it's gonna be close. It's gonna be who can
who can contain the other team's quarterback and running game
and a quarterback run game.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I don't now.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
It may be a few pass I think Alabama State
has the edge and a short passing game, while Jack
the State has the edge and a deep passing game.
When you gotta joke like savage and what's gonna happen
is whoever has to play covers three or coup of one.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I think that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Be the one that's gonna end up being in trouble
because those short passes by Alabama State, those screens gonna
turn in the loans and once one guy miss the tackle,
and then with Jackson on offense, they gonna be able
to go up top because it's gonna be some one
on matchup, one on one matchups on the outside. And
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that's what I saw last week when they played a
and them. You know, Savage had not been making a
lot of players or getting the ball, and then lo
and behold, he goes two touchdowns and every time I
saw him score he was one on one with the
corner back outside. So it's gonna be some good play.
I think the ball gonna be you gotta defend fifty
three and a third and it's gonna be a good.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Game in my opinion, absolutely one of those games. Coach,
if I have to make a pick, I would have
to take Jackson something because they're at home.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Hey man.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But the thing about it too, you gotta you gotta
realize if you go back a little bit to the the.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Versus Eddie Robinson Junior.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
To you, Huh, that's what I would call it the
swack Bowl. I think from that to being a lot
on the line. Plus is Jackson State home coming. And
I always said Jackson was one of my favorite places
to play and coach as uh, you know, just coming
(36:22):
up through the ranks, you know, being in that stadium
when it's rocking. Man, it ain't too many other places. Besides,
I would say the dawns that can get as loud.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
As that place right right right.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So it's definitely gonna be interesting. And I know you're
gonna be out there on that water in Summerville, man,
but hope you can sneak some in and and don't
take all the fish, man, say some for the.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Folks out there in Summerville. Don't don't bring it all back.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Look, man, I gotta get some I gotta get some
fish for this post homecoming fish fry I'm trying to
have at my house. So look, and I'm gonna put
it like this, So I'm supposed to take take my
license to cab and I can feel a handgun licensed
class on Sunday after Previeue homecoming.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But I just told my wife I think.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm a cancer that class because I want to have
some people about the house. But if I go out
there and catch a mess of fist, it's definitely gonna
get cancer. So look, just keep that up, keep that
in mind for that Sunday after previews Homecoming, because look,
I my wife, you know I told you earlier she
wanted to get a spot and get a camper and
all that from Prairiege Homecoming. Well the spots went faster
(37:31):
than she thought and we didn't get a spot. So
I been telling people, I'll trade somebody, and I know
I can always go over there with Ms Wander, with
the Panther backers. I can always go over there with
Doctor Caville and Doc Maid's and his crew, and I
can go over that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Look, some of them guys that I produce are help produce,
look them jokes working in the offield. So I know
I can go over there with you. Anybody else got
a good tailgate spot that they want me to come.
I'm not gonna drink because I'm gonna call the game.
But if you if you come to Southern home Coming
and then you let me know where y'all gonna.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Be at a Preirie home coming. We could work a
deal out.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But that's that's that's my plans right now.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well that sounds like a good plan because shrieking up
Southern's homecoming, our next go to broadcast will be on
the bluff coach, And you think your Southern Night's gonna
hear you a hard time when you show up, man.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I know, I mean I'm gonna work it out. Look,
I go almost anywhere in bad Rue as long as
I throw my last name around. Because most people, they
gonna know my dad because he worked at x UN
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
And he coached the league football.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
They know, they gonna know my Mamy because he had
a catering business. They gonna know my brother because he
played at l s U and on the north end
of town. They gonna know me because, like say, some
people when they see me and they see Northern, they say,
which one of you l s U or Southern. So
it's sort of a little the running token of family.
And then a lot of people don't know my sisters.
So my sister is yr saw Raw. She the first
(39:04):
sorority house is actually I can walk from Southern campus
to the Zeta sorority house, so you know a lot
of people know her because of the work that she
did following in my mom's footsteps. So if you go
anywhere on Southern campus, it's a whole lot of data
that are in the financial aid, housing scholarships. You pretty
(39:24):
much name it. So, uh, they'll be all right. Now,
I'm gonna tell you this now most of the day,
I'm gonna have a Southern shirt on. So and I'm
gonna invite your son to our tailgate spot when he
gets Look, we're gonna make your work.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Look now, now we.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Got to reverse the courage we then took Adam. You're
gonna try to take my son.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Man, No, man, look look now, why Adams?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Look, this is your boy.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I call him your boy? Now why this joking? And
called my daddy and asking him can like him and
three of his friends come stay at my dad's house,
which it's probably about a five minute drive. So look,
we gonna enjoy. We gonna enjoy them, and we gonna
we gonna I'm gonna say, we're gonna show them how
homecoming really supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay, then well we're gonna look forward to it either way, Coach.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
And as always, we appreciate everything that you helped do
with up share at the open mic Man, it is
greatly greatly appreciated, and the fans even appreciate you man
on this show on the play call. And let me
ask you this before we get out here, what is
your experience been like being on board at the open
mic Look Man.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I enjoyed it look number one to get me out
of the house a little bit. So I like and
I like calling the game. And then just the way
that I think I can break things down to people,
Like somebody's talked to me about to show that you
and I did about just talking about cover one through five,
and they can they can see it, And I think
(40:52):
I can help people visualize what happened in the simplest
way in twenty seconds. I can say, right, they blessed
off the EDGs cornerback blew it up, or you know
that the defensive tackle got penetration, that's why the play
didn't work.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Just different things like that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
But I like it just from a standpoint of it's
I think it's gonna get me to where eventually. My
end goal has always been to be I Let It
director or to be on the TV side of football.
After football I was done coaching, so I really enjoyed
getting there. And then like say, when when I see
people and they tell me I heard you in Mike Prince,
(41:30):
I like what you said, or you know why you
like this or why you say that? You know, man,
I'm part of the deal is man. I'm I'm I'm
truthful and sometimes to a fault. I always tell people
my wife is seven months pregnant and asks me to
do this dress make me look like a press, and
I tell you know, it's your summing sticking out there,
make you look like that's being a nuts here. I'm
(41:51):
gonna tell it like it is. And uh, you know
you you did with the consequence. So if you don't
want the truth, go ask somebody else.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I know we appreciated and love that about to coach.
He is our guru for football.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Coach Heights Northern. I am the radio guy, Doctor Mike Prince.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Reminding you guys that you can follow me on Twitter
X at the Mike Prince Show. Don't forget to subscribe
to the YouTube channel with the open Mic Broadcast Network.
We also have that twenty four hour stream at obnradio
dot com in addition to our message text line at
nine three six four sixty.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Three two four zero five.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
With that, Bend said the time has come when we
must exit stage left. So until the next time you guys,
be blessed and we'll see you on the other side.
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