November 13, 2025 • 44 mins
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Coach and I take a look back at the week that was throughout the conference — how Prairie View is positioning itself for the home stretch 🟣🐾, and we go deep behind the veil on some of the challenges the Southern Jaguars 🐆💙 are facing in their 2025 campaign.
🏈 Be sure to join us this weekend for the Prairie View A&M Panthers 🟣🐾 vs University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff Golden Lions 🟡🦁 — The Battle on the Hill!
📅 Saturday, 2:00 p.m. CST
🎧 Listen live on the Open Mic Broadcast Network YouTube Channel 🔊📻
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#SWAC #SWACFootball #HBCUSports 🎓🏈🔥
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome back to another shit down session. After further
review with Coach Heish more than I am the radio guy,
doctor Mike Presh. Coach, how you doing today, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey man, I'm doing good. I tell you what. It's
good to be back home. You know, you and I
had talked a little bit about my travels. You know,
I flew up the Buffalo and drove a vehicle back down.
So I spent last Thursday and last Friday on the
interstates and passed through about seven or eight stats. And look, man,
(00:34):
I could have made a killing with all the did
I saw on the side of the road, the fields
of New York and Ohio and all those types of places.
But man, it was a good ride. I missed a
lot of traffics. The only thing I regret I was
in Nashville and I didn't think to go by Tennessee
State and see Coach Barlow and thought, yeah, So had
(00:56):
I been thinking ahead of time, I definitely would have
stopped it there and uh and got on the board
and talked the ball with those guys. But uh, I man,
I was honestly, I was a little bit tied. But
it was a good trip all and all. And then
I got back and and watched some games. I watched
the Prairieview game. I sat in my backyard and uh man,
(01:17):
I didn't even have me a good old spirit back then.
I just sat back there and watched football, and I
flipped back and forth between the Southern game once this started.
So I watched a lot of uh swack football, the
Gramlin Bathum game over the overside. So it was good
to be at home and just sit in the backyard
and watch some games.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes, sir, well coach, before we get me first, sound like, man,
you blew two opportunities. Man, you should have been traveling
with a board and arrow. That way you could have
got you some of that deer man and got it
back to the Texas line safe from sound. And then
Texas not Texas, Tennessee state opportunity. But you say you'll
be prepared next time, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hey, man, Look so Adam you know he lives, He
lives in the UC so kind of way. He comes
on the back of campus, close to the farm, and
he sends me this video of this buck chasing some
doze on the back. He was like, man, I wish
I could get a boat and go get in a
tree or crossbowt look this sho want to go hunting
(02:17):
on the back of campus. And I was like, look
back back in the days when I was in school.
I'm not gonna say my teammate's name. I'm gonna say me.
But man, we kept guns in the dawn back then,
and as long as we brought the guy that was
over our dorm at the time, you know, the rabbits,
(02:37):
squirrel or some deal whatever we had, it was all good.
I'm like, man, you can't do that nowadays. The boy
was itching to get out there and get him some deal.
And then it's one of the puns. It's the pun
out there that he and I when he was little,
we would go back there and catch all we catch
bad catfish and blue gear on the backside of prairie,
(03:00):
your cabras.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You can fi give away that that watering hole.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Man, Hey man, look now they got a much better fence.
They got shoe fences. Back then, there was only one fence.
And you know, like I say, I knew all the cameras.
Police say, Hey man, me and my son were just
going off some theme of you know, me and the coaches.
It might be me and two coaches. But it was
fun just going back there watching the stople go down
(03:24):
as old.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Folks say yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Well you
got a chance to intake a lot of football. We
did the simulcast from Huntsville Panthers. Uh started off a
little slow and said they got it out of gear
and they just dominated, man. And and here's the crazy
(03:46):
part about it, coaches, they're still to me on clicking
on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Man, Hey, that's the crazy part about it, because if
you if you look at the the box score, I
want to say they didn't but it was a back
and forth quote unquote defensive battle, but it was some
drop pad and some missed opportunities by both teams. The
first quarter, I think the play that broke A and
M's back, or not the play, but the drive where
(04:16):
they threw the hell of mirror right before halftimes, I
think it took all the air out of their cells.
And then you give up the big play and then
you let them get the ball back and then, like
I say, the floodgates just opened. It was almost and
I know they had a lot of guys in their
secondary that was injured, but it just it. You know,
(04:36):
you passed almost four hundred yards. You rushed for right,
it a little bit over too. It was a magnificent
day for the Panther offense. And it still was room
to put, you know, a fourteen on the board in
the first quarter, which really would have made it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Look out land right right right. And I do a
session with coach Peedaway. I gave Pantherson a minus. Right,
He's like, what I said, what coach? I said, I
know what you're looking at, but I know what I'm
looking for, you see, And so it's that's with just
a wiggeroom, and I don't want nobody to misinterpret what
I'm saying. Thoroughly satisfied with the product. But you know
(05:17):
from coaching mode, coach, when you're always looking for ways
to get better. And that's an exciting thing about this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's all my time to think how coach used
to said, is you satisfied but you're not complacent. You
you still got room to grow. And if you look
at it when you whenever you don't score in a quarter,
that's not good. If you talked to coach Buten or
coach Jackson, they was like they probably say, man, we
(05:45):
left this on the on the table. We didn't get
everything we could out of this drive. We should have,
you know, maybe a drop pass, a penalty, a bad throat,
you know, just those things that you would like to correct. Say,
hey man, against a good team, we might need to
get out to seven points on the board every quarter
(06:06):
as those to a zero on the board, or we
need to get two field goals. Uh, you know, just
different things like that that you want to keep striving for.
Is putting like they saying baseball, putting a crooked number
up instead of leaving that zero on the board for
every far.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right And you're talking about what a difference a week
way make. You're talking about somebody going from the outhouse
to the white house. Mister, I'm gonna say, mister, this week,
mister Peters gets five touchdown passes after a week of
having four interceptions or turnovers. Can you figure this thing out? Coach?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Man? If I could, I wouldn't be on the phone
with you right now. Look, man, you know, and that's
college football almost in a nut cell. Sometimes when especially
when you did with a very athletic quarterback and then
like I say, some of those intercepts. This is the
week before against Alabama State, probably could never happen again,
(07:05):
like just having a ball flip out of your hands
and have it inaccepted, or a ball gets tipped by
two or three people get inaccepted. A ball that clearly
it should have been passed in appearance call gets inaccepted
and it's no penalty. So it's different things like that
that'll probably like say, never happened again. The other thing
(07:26):
that may never happen again, but I hope it does
for the young man, is a five touchdown game. You know,
it's just like you say, it's like when you hide
in baseball, but it looks like you could see the
three and you can see the writings. Yeah, and everything
looks slow to you. And then it's like when you're
shooting basketball. It's like it's just something just feels so
(07:48):
good about it coming out your hand and you can't
explain it. But then the other thing too, and I
you know, jokers was making plays for him, you know,
like to say, the hell mayor, which is probab some
of the worst defense I've seen. But a joker goes
up and high points the ball and makes a touchdown.
Then you know they make a couple other real he
(08:10):
made some good throws, some throws the key guys out
of homes way going across the middle. And you know,
when it's just happening like that, it's like you can't
explain it and you just have to live in a
moment for the and the other thing too, these next
two defenses that's coming up in my opinion, and I
can say this because I'm not coaching. They not world
(08:30):
beat us, so you may have a chance to maybe
open up the passing the game a little bit more.
But at the same time, you may just say, hey, man,
let's see these running backs and get on out here
with a fixure and then show the fall when we
want to as opposed to when we have to so
and then you may say, well, we're gonna throw it early,
(08:51):
loosen them up, and then it's about to be blunt
poors trauma with them two running backs. And then the
third running back is doing well as well, So you
never know what you're gonna get out of the pair
of the offense, which is is a good thing that
now you can say, okay, y'all think y'all can step
up and stop these running backs. Okay, here's the here's
(09:11):
a couple of guys going deep, here's a screen, here's
the a pass over the middle, and you still got
running backs that can catch the ball and get extra yoder.
So if you gotta cover the whole field with those guys,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And I like that that zone reference you was talking
about where it seemed like you don't hear anything. Everything
is slow motion and it's like the perfect storm all
day long. And like you said, it's something that you
just cannot explain. And all I can say is that
the great ones experience it more than the average joes.
So when you when you look at it from a
(09:49):
coaching perspective's been in that drive receipt at both ends
of the spectrum. And let's be honest, you don't look
past any opponents. You've got two games starting off with
molding lines. This we can But at some point, coach,
do you start stretching, not losing total conversation or focus,
(10:11):
but stretching a little bit looking across the yard because
you had not played the Jackson States. And then you
got this big enough cushion from the western side of
the conference to where you can start experimenting more or
less of adding the more passing concept because right now
(10:32):
the book on Purview is stopped to run. You control
the panthers, and I know though the mondrac one game
at the time, we want to go one to oh.
And when we are dealing with humans, young humans who
are confident right now, even though they hadn't played their
(10:53):
best game yet. Still, in my opinion, how do you
balance that man? And be honest with me? Coch as
from the coach's perspective, do you start start trying to
do not major prep, but some minor preps toward Jackson?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Perhaps well, I want to be honest from a coaching standpoint,
and then it goes back to a staffing standpoint. So
you may say, look, my coordinators and my position coaches,
we're gonna focus on these two games at hand, my
(11:31):
graduate assistant and my analyst. You guys start getting stuff
ready for the SWAG Champions games. Let's and I may say, look,
the top swopeens are Alabama State and Jackie State. So
I may say, two guys, depending on my numbers, all
(11:52):
I want you to do is find out jack and
State's I want to look at every play that they
scored on and every play that they got a sack
or tackle. Pots if I'm looking at jack And State offense,
and if I may take another two guys and do
the same thing for Alabama State, then I may say,
two of you guys, I want you to look at
(12:13):
every player on Alabama on Jackson State defense where they
gave up eight yards there more in the running game
and twelve yards the more in the past game. Let's
see is it scheme or is it personnel? The reason
why they gave up certain plays, and what I would do,
(12:34):
and this is actually what I did as a head
coach and a coordinator. I would have my grad assistance
on my student assistant. I may say, hey, man, you
take these three games and you have to do a presentation,
like if you're the defense coordinator, you get in front
of the whole defensive staff, I want p and ten
(12:54):
first and ten second and short long short meetium loan
third and short medium loan and any trick plays and
you have to do a presentation with the percentages, what
plays they do well, what plays we definitely have to stop,
what don't they do well? And then that gives my
(13:14):
position coaches some insight to when we get to that game.
We already have some information for my coordinators and my
position coaches to look into. So that's the way I've
seen it done on the high school level like that,
and I've seen it done on the collegiate level where
(13:36):
you like say, that's why you have so many analysts,
grad assistants, student assistants that can do some of the
legwork for your coordinator. And I could tell you, And
I wish we could get David. David Metcalf played for
me at Praierview and he was my grad assistant. Now
he's on the defensive staff at the University of George.
(13:56):
If he could get on the phone and tell you
some of the things that they have enough people to
look at man, you would be amazed. Like they have
guys that all they do is look at man past protection.
They have guys that all they look at maybe is
zone or slide pass protection. One guy all he does
is look at where's the ball thrown? And he can
(14:19):
give you a diagram almost it almost looked like a
bullet short with his holes in a piece of paper.
Every time the ball is thrown, they put a dot
on the paper. Then you from that you can see, hey, man,
we really they never throw the ball to the flat,
but they real good throwing the ball to the hashes
(14:39):
or the middle of the field of deep. So it's
a whole lot of information that you can gather, but.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You have to have the man power to do that right,
which is one of the instances that coach of Tremaine
Jackson laid out to accept the job at preview and
people are saying, man, he's got more staff and help
than any of the coach and times passed, and it's
kind of the proof and the putting concept showing up
(15:05):
now at this part of the season. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And if you think about it, just think about the
playoff one that they had at Valdosta State where you
have to you can't, in my pinions, you can't wait
until the Friday or the Saturday after you play to
start getting information on the team that you playing next week.
You get information out and then you pull from that
(15:32):
information that you have, and we usually do three games
per team that we place. I may find the latest game,
I may find a game where they're playing against somebody
that runs a very similar defensive US and I may
find a game where if I'm like that defensive coach,
I'm looking at a game where they score the most points,
(15:53):
and I'm looking at a game where they score the
least amount of points. That's available for me. Back then
in the swag, you had to give your three last
games and then you could cross reference if you got
a game early in the season. But now I think
what they call it a portal, you had to leave
your portal open and eat school. They can pick whatever
(16:14):
games they want from whatever games you have in the cloud.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
More or less, yes, sir. Now, I'm gonna come back
to that hopefully when I remember. But I want to
touch on this is when it's good to have allies
throughout the brotherhood of coaching, right because yeah, sometimes they
can give you some insights on a kid, a personality,
or some traits that won't show up all the time
(16:41):
on see them, and even some if the truth be told, coach,
some little personal information that you know can get under
their skin and help throw their gay off. You know,
they call it gamesmanship. You know it ain't to give
me some insights now when all of that is in
factor once again, that where the numbers count to help
(17:02):
you get these little tid bits and information coming upon it.
Now when you go back. And this is the point
I was going to be leaning into references. I understand
you got to have Felm and footage to show, you know,
some people can compare. But I'm kind of a part
of me saying, man, you figure it out as the
(17:22):
game go along. And I understand that how big an
issue because they used to be the time back and
my time of playing. Yeah, they give you some film.
Well by the time you try to figure in pieces
staying together, it ain't even worth looking at. You got
to go out there and you know they say on
hope and prayer.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Anyway, Well, now I think because they started finding schools
if the film got in later, you uploaded late, because
that would happened between first school and I mind you,
when I got the grammar when we played the Alabama schools,
especially Alabama and m you may not get their Saturday
(18:01):
games until Monday evening or just say it may be
Tuesday mornings, and you know, lo and behold. We knew
the people at the post office, so if something came late,
we might could get somebody that we knew to say hey,
or we might tell them, hey, send it on a
Greyhound bus instead of by mail, so it was all
(18:22):
that kind of stuff, and then people wouldn't send it
on time, so it was all that kind of stuff.
But you do the film is help. I think the
other thing too, and I may have mentioned this before.
I had a buddy of mine that they went to
the I'm trying to think of the department on campus,
well basically where just say, if you have a kid
(18:42):
with a learning disability that maybe not not here, And
they went and found a student that could read lips
and watch the TV version of the game so they
could see what a coach was saying. Or they may
just say, if I have swack TV, I may sit
in my backyard and watch the game and see if
I can hear what are the players saying on the field.
(19:05):
That will help me determine whether the offense is going
to the right or to the left. Because some teams
they may say twenty they might say twenty six east,
a twenty six west right and left, or they may
you know, I worked at a school that we were
paying against somebody and they called it by the school's mascot.
(19:25):
So just say, if Preview is playing Alabama State, they
might say Haunted basketball. I mean, we're gonna run dome
to Alabama State sign up. They say basketball panther or something.
Were running dome to the left of we say weight
room of home. You know, we running to the homes.
You know, it's all those kind of little cod words
(19:47):
that you could pick up from watching the game on
TV that, like say, back in the day, you wouldn't
even think about doing. But it's all that type of
stuff that goes into you know, scout and trying to
get that one upsmanship or you know, all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, little coach, that sounded like what the Patriots were doing, right.
They just took advantage of every loophole in the room
book to get their inside advantage.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Right, hey man, look now, now I'm gonna tell you
what the Patriots were doing. They would go and watch
the team practice if they came to their facility or
to you know, sometimes people practice at their own status.
But I'm gonna just say just say, for like the
Bayou class, for lack of a if gramming practice first,
(20:34):
then some graanding coaches may go up to iget what
they called it the foyer or whatever level they called
the loads and try to stay around and watch practice
or something. You know, it's stuff like that that happens,
you know, and you can't see because the dome is
so big. You got a joke, he goes stand up
by the pole. But you know, it's all kinds of
the espionage. But what the Patriots was doing was flat
(20:56):
out illegal taping people's practices or whatever. And I don't
know if you herds. In a high school in Texas,
a kid had a wearable technology and a coach found
it and didn't turn it in. And also I know
of coaches. I know this happened to a school in
South Louisiana. A kid transferred from one school to another.
(21:18):
And this is what happened in the swack as well.
The huddle pass word got passed from one player to another,
and depending on the huddle account, you can go in
and watch people's practices if you have certain passwords. Now
in most cases you can only watch the games. But
if you have a certain password, and if I know,
(21:41):
what are you gonna do? What are you practicing to
do against me? When this is the defense that they
expected us to line up in. Now I can either
tweak my defense or see this is how they planning
on attacking us. So it's a lot of espionage that
goes on in the world of college football. And one thing,
I laughed that, And you know some people might not
(22:03):
think it's that funny, but you know the preview coaches
they put the seat up behind me. Well, one game,
I just want to say, they were in bat and
Ruge's playing well. Having a seat behind you when you're
the visiting team, it doesn't make any sense at all.
So I thought, I laugh at that when I felt like,
why do they have a seat up and the coaches
from stuffing can look directly at them. So it was
(22:25):
you know, it's all that kind of stuff. You try
to hide stuff, but man, sometimes you end up out
tricking yourself a little.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Bit right right in the bottom line, still got to
get out there and execute it. You know, you can
draw it up, but you still got to stop it
one way or the other. We're talking with Coach heightst
Northern Or after further review Cancers with a strong dominating
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coach and fill up on the play by play here
at the Open Mic Broadcast Network. Now. Coach we got
to addressed the elephant in the room. Nasty brawl this
past weekend between the Wildcats and the Tigers, a feline battle,
if you would, I understand it to a degree, and
(23:17):
to another degree, it makes absolutely no sense the excuse
Sometimes people say, well, they shouldn't come in at the
same tumuel. That's been a design for a lot of
stagings for many years, and it is.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What it is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There awesome degrees of timing and programs in place. A
what and how do you prevent this from happening in
the future? And can you hold anyone as far as
an authoritative position accountable? Was this or just a case
(23:56):
of young minds and young testosterron? Gone?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Wow? I tell you what, man. One of the scariest
events I've ever been involved in was the Praierview Grammar
fight the year before I came to preview. I was
on Grammary Staff and the sea kids and guys win
him to see coaches getting swung on as well. Was scared,
(24:25):
and I actually thought that I wasn't gonna get the
job at Prayer of You because of the way the
fights happened or whatever. But uh, you know, sometimes things
are gonna happen. You try to police with I understand
that they usually do, and and you know, just from
the I'm gonna say the reports that I've got, it
(24:47):
didn't just start with the guys walking down hill. Is
started well before that, with maybe the kickers involved and
they warm them up because you know, they wore them
up separately. But it's a whole lot of things that
are being said about how it started. Then I heard
some comments that were made about coach Joseph not being
(25:09):
the leader. And the thing that gets me is you
try to prevent all that stuff from happening. Sometimes it's
gonna happen. But it's almost like if you have never
been in that situation, you can't say what you will
or will not do. Yes, you see somebody that you love,
and those guys love each other, from player to coach,
(25:32):
coach to coach, player the players. You never know what
you might do when you see your brother out there
fighting somebody else. So your brother getting jumped on a crowd,
and so it's a lot of stuff that goes into it. Unfortunately,
it happened, and people could say, oh, that's just HBCU.
Now that that I mean a couple of years ago
(25:53):
it was Michigan and Michigan State in the tunnel, the
same thing, one way in, one way out, and you
see guy, you know the Eli h versus Florida earlier
this year with the pregame stuff. So it's a lot
of stuff that goes into it. And I just hate
the way that they tried to portray Coach Joseph because
coach Coach Joseph is a guy that's gonna have his
players back. And when he talked about disrespect, I totally
(26:16):
understood where he was coming from. And it's a lot
of people that are in bad situations for either disrespecting
someone or you know, i'd say, sort of putting up
with disrespect. But it's just a I want to say,
a nothing burger. You know, Oh that looked bad, but
(26:37):
because yeah, it looked bad. But sometimes it's just one
of those I'm not gonna say there's nothing you could
do about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You can say necessary evil or necessary evil? Shall you say?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, it's it's just one of those. It should
have I would say, if I had to put a
blame on it, I would say, if the thune came
out first, either the officials or the security or police
should have made sure that all their guys were out
(27:10):
if that's the case, and separated. They said. Normally when
you play at Grantlin, the visiting team takes the far
end of the field for warmups in pregames after halftime
they do that, or they go to the farst island.
From my understanding, that did not happen. So but at
(27:30):
the same time that Grantland have a right to put
their hands on people if they did, and the guys
from Bethune, in my opinion, should have been a little
bit smarter. I'm not gonna go to another place and
just start popping off at the mouth if that's what happened.
(27:51):
You know, I'm not gonna get out of line. I'm
gonna hey man, you know, I might apologize excuse me
before I go in there and say, heymen, none of
y'all been not touched me. Type of situations. So it's
different ways that everybody could have handled. But I think
moving forward is definitely gonna be some lines drone in
the staying about who's gonna go first, everybody out at
(28:15):
one time, clear lines of demarcation or separation between the teams.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Right now, it kind of reminds me when Dewley was
coaching at Prairie View and it was Baton Rouge, and
I think this was a little bit different because I say,
I don't recall everything, but something about standing in the
middle of the field or stepping on the logo cake.
Do you remember that what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Though, So this may have happened. I want to say
this was when coach Duly came back, because it happened
at Prairiview, because I remember this because Adam was on
an unofficial visit and I see all the police call.
I'm outside of staying them and I see all the
police call and police running in the stadium where my son,
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who's a high school kid is and I'm trying to
get in there, like, hey, my son is in there.
I need to find out what's going on. Is a
shooting or stabbing or fighting or what's going on? And
I get in that man low and behold it was.
It was some hooking going on. But it started from
what I understand, because I want to say one of
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the kids that started off at Priview transferred to Southern
and may have gone to the local defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Old man, what was the kids name?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So from what I understand, he may have said something
some guys some preview that was still there then the
preacher and that led to a big malee. So you know,
it's one of those another and I was telling somebody
the other that's what made people start wearing the number
first on the back of the shirts and pregame warm
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us because you have video of it, and you're supposed
to start video on everything that happens in the stadium
at a certain time. So now they can say, Okay,
this kid is number ninety nine on the back of
his shirt. Okay, he's clearly throwing punches of swinging him.
So it's different things like that. That's how a lot
of that stuff evolved into where you see what guys
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wearing pre game and to you know, to go from there.
But that that's sumping on the logo or spit on
the logo or jumping up and down, that's that's a
big no no, I think. But you know, at the
same time, and I've seen people get whooped by forty
points then want to get mad at somebody sumping on
the logo, like, nah, you should have stopped them talking
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from scoring forty points, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, you know Baker Mayfield back in his day is
known for getting his team flag and dabbing it. And
I remember when Carol oun stood on the store, know
you know, and and yeah, I get it. And and
it's it's always it's three people, coach that always start trouble,
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always start trouble. And I don't care where you go,
it's gonna be a wide receiver, it's gonna be a
defensive back, or it's gonna be one of them dog
on kickers. It's always the one that start commotion. And
you know, I'm right about it, coach.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But you know what, the kidder's just catch raised everybody
figure they can whoop the kitchens. That's funny why they
could be up all. I was at a game and
the kickers was trying to warm up and like the
flag girls was almost ready to whoop the kickers.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It was one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Like but yeah, man, you never know what. But you
know it's like they have you never been in that arena.
You can't face uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Once again we're talking with coach heist northern coach. I know,
uh this this this is mental, they say as sauty
sweet gear for you enjoying the game coverage, man, but
you can't feel good by what's going on on the bluff.
It's hard and I know it's hard for you to
sometimes separate because let's be honest, we're all human. Yeah,
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Purview made life comfortable for you, Grambling help you get established,
but something's going to always be home. What are you
seeing from the fan perspective, the coaching perspective, the supportive
perspective of what can remedy the situation down in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, it's a couple of different things that's going on.
Or as being said, like I say, part of it
is we have to evolve in terms of the NIL game.
That's one thing that has to evolve. The other thing
that has to evolve is the I say that the
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ports of fans, not just going to games and going
on road trips. We need and I'm saying, we we
need people that's gonna say, hey, I work at this company.
They making help with XYZ in terms of funding or
I And I'm gonna be honest with you. If you
go to Southern facilities, Southern is not in the top five.
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If you look at the stadium in the field of house.
You may say, oh, that's nice, But truth be told,
I would put for Everew ahead. I'll put Jackson State ahead,
I would put Alabama State ahead. I would put Alabama
A and M ahead. Who is my other school? Oh,
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Grammar is ahead of Southern, just in terms of if
you go inside the building and really look at it,
you would say, if I had a child, I would
rather send my kids there, taking away the fan base
and the fans support. Where's my son gonna be at
most of the day. I would send my child to
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these other schools before I get to something. But people
in Baton Ruge don't want to hear that. But like
I say, I call it like I said, because I
put my money where my mouth did as well, So
I can. I feel like I can tell the truth
whether or not I coach at Southern or not. That's
I say. That's that's That's not a part of my
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game plan. So I don't have to mince words as
a former student athlete about what I see going on
at my school. The other thing is, and I'm gonna
say it until I passed out of turn Blue of
go to the upper room. Southern. We have to get
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everybody on the same word, same line, same page, and
we not on that from a administrative standpoint of the
chairman of the board, the athletic director, the head coach,
all three of them not seeing the same I think
they seeing the same vision. But how do you get
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there is not the same path? Everybody want to see
them when, but how do you get there with what
you're doing? Is not the way to go about doing it.
And I said it. I said again, the schools that
I have in success have everybody with the same vision
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and pretty much the same way to get there. When
you when you you can have the same vision. But
when you don't have the same you know, some people
are gonna go by both playing or train. If everybody's
not getting that the same way, then you're gonna end
up failing because everybody's not taking the same path on
that campus to get there. And that's that's my honest opinion.
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And I'm not telling you something that I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Okay, Okay, Now it's ironic that you would mention the plane,
trains and a coach to a degree. Isn't it a
good thing that people are traveling the different ways as
long as they arrive the same destination, don't.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm gonna say why, I don't think so. Because the
head coach may see I need this to be able
to win at this gup. The asletic director may say, well,
I think you need this. The chairman of the board
or the president may say I think you ought to
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do this, or I think this person needs to do that,
And when they're not being the same, especially if you
end up with personality differences, are sunfi if I come
to you and say, hey, I need this for my program,
are you telling me no because you don't want to
see me be successful or because you don't like me.
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Are you telling me no because realistically we don't have
it in the budget. And I think that's where the
question comes from when it comes to these coaches. Everybody
want to blame the head coach, But when the head
coach is the man that's pretty much in front of
most of those institutions. You have very few schools that
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people know who the AD is. But nine times out
of ten, if maybe just say besides the baton rouge
because coach thanks is on TV, you're not gonna know who.
You're gonna know who the head football coach is. You
probably gonna know who the head basketball coach. Then most
places you may know who the AD is. But like
you say, the football coach is in a lot of
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instances the face of the university and the face of
the program. So if I am behind that person, I'm
gonna try to do my dog on this to make
sure that that person is successful. And personally, I don't
think that was the situation with coach Grays that everybody
wanted to see him be successful, right, And I get that,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And it's just like whether it's a football program, a
corporation or school board or whatever, those on the front
line they know what it's gonna take to be successful.
And your mid tier, let's let's say your first lab
management I either ad principles or whatnot. They are to
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be the advocate and saying hey, I know you asked
for ten. I know they might not give you ten,
but I'm at least trying to get you at eight. Okay, okay,
and then and now that's what I'm sure for realistically,
but you might have to settle for six. But I
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am gonna go to bat for you because then that
that layer of management and we just say, since we're
talking football football, he goes explain to the people who
might not understand everything that's going on, but they got
the financial backing or the power of yal Nate. Okay,
they make it plain enough to where even if I
don't understand, I'm gonna trust you because you're in the
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position to help lead us to where we all want.
Ultimately is success in this case wins championshipship titles. But
the thing is, it's like it's like a reverse pyramid, no,
not a perverse, a multi level of marketing program. The
everything is is you know that the top heavy is
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top heavy. I don't and coach are almost cuts just
a minute ago. But if you said like this, damn
if we like each other, if our goal is to
win a championship, let's do what we need to do
to win a championship. Because usually your boy or your
no buddy don't get it. You get the job done,
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but because you like them, you sacrifice for them. But
then the joker who's capable, and you might be an
a personality, he's a big personality. But the ultimate goald
is you all are looking and getting the same results,
and sometimes you got to put your personal feelings to
the side.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But that makes sense to you. Some people don't make
sense to and that's that's where that's where the problem
comes in. Oh and by the way, we don't want
you to stay as a head coach what you don't
have or you know, we it's it's so much more
that goes into it, right right, you know, just different
things like that. But it's you know, sometimes power and
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money is the uh the poison that no doubt, that's
sure what should be a good relationship, you know, just
you know, it's almost one of those just because instead of.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That that's what's right right right, Well, I do mean
this in the most sincere way. I hope that uh
jaggs do get it together uh soon because it's good
for the conference, you know, and there's a time and
season for each and.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Every one, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
But old saying it say, ain't no fun when the
rabbit got the gun, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
You look, I used to tell him jokes that pray view,
when the rabbit get the gun, he is unmerciful. Yo.
Don't you better hope he don't get it because once
he gets it, Oh boy, look, it ain't no nothing
to six stout it's a buck shot coming back at you. So, yes, sir,
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one of those type of things that rabbit is unmerciable.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
No doubt about it, no doubt about it. Well, coach,
I appreciate you always.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We're looking forward to your call this weekend. Uh, We're
gonna wrap this week's segment up, but give you some
closing thoughts from coming so shee what you got for us?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Hey man, this the season is quickly winding down, and
I am sort of looking forward to it and not
looking forward to it because you know, it gives me
something to do on the weekends. Uh, and you know,
even I might try to go get in the woods
before this game this weekend, so hopefully we'll have a
good day if we do go. But I like getting
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on campus and seeing the Panther backs and you know,
seeing up on the player. So I'm looking forward to
it and then trying to see exactly where this thing
is gonna end up. You know, hopefully Pery, you end
up hosting the championship game on campus. I don't know
what all the time breaking scenarios are, but I.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Really look right now though, but there's still a little
light on.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, so we'll We'll see how it goes at the
end of the day, because you know, that'll be good
not only for Praierview to be able to hose it
be the first team out of the West now that
all corners in the West. They didn't count there because
they were in the East at the time. But I
just think it'll be good for a Western Conference team
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to have the facilities on national TV once again. I
think that'll be good for prayer View and the conference
as well of being able to host and hopefully have
a good crowd. I don't know how to ticket situation go,
but hopefully, you know, I think people will show up
for that one of you know, good weather. You know
they especially they end up paying Jackson, a team that
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hadn't been here in a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Right, right, Well, I got more confidence and show up
for that than for these other two home games that
will remain. And my over under this week, believe it
or not, is five thousand, So hopefully I'm way off
on that in a positive way. Yeah, I see what
I'm saying. But with that being said, he is our
football google coach heightst Northern, and I am the radio guy,
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you guys, be blessed and we'll see you on the
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other side.
And welcome back to another shit down session. After further
review with Coach Heish more than I am the radio guy,
doctor Mike Presh. Coach, how you doing today, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey man, I'm doing good. I tell you what. It's
good to be back home. You know, you and I
had talked a little bit about my travels. You know,
I flew up the Buffalo and drove a vehicle back down.
So I spent last Thursday and last Friday on the
interstates and passed through about seven or eight stats. And look, man,
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I could have made a killing with all the did
I saw on the side of the road, the fields
of New York and Ohio and all those types of places.
But man, it was a good ride. I missed a
lot of traffics. The only thing I regret I was
in Nashville and I didn't think to go by Tennessee
State and see Coach Barlow and thought, yeah, So had
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I been thinking ahead of time, I definitely would have
stopped it there and uh and got on the board
and talked the ball with those guys. But uh, I man,
I was honestly, I was a little bit tied. But
it was a good trip all and all. And then
I got back and and watched some games. I watched
the Prairieview game. I sat in my backyard and uh man,
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I didn't even have me a good old spirit back then.
I just sat back there and watched football, and I
flipped back and forth between the Southern game once this started.
So I watched a lot of uh swack football, the
Gramlin Bathum game over the overside. So it was good
to be at home and just sit in the backyard
and watch some games.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes, sir, well coach, before we get me first, sound like, man,
you blew two opportunities. Man, you should have been traveling
with a board and arrow. That way you could have
got you some of that deer man and got it
back to the Texas line safe from sound. And then
Texas not Texas, Tennessee state opportunity. But you say you'll
be prepared next time, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hey, man, Look so Adam you know he lives, He
lives in the UC so kind of way. He comes
on the back of campus, close to the farm, and
he sends me this video of this buck chasing some
doze on the back. He was like, man, I wish
I could get a boat and go get in a
tree or crossbowt look this sho want to go hunting
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on the back of campus. And I was like, look
back back in the days when I was in school.
I'm not gonna say my teammate's name. I'm gonna say me.
But man, we kept guns in the dawn back then,
and as long as we brought the guy that was
over our dorm at the time, you know, the rabbits,
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squirrel or some deal whatever we had, it was all good.
I'm like, man, you can't do that nowadays. The boy
was itching to get out there and get him some deal.
And then it's one of the puns. It's the pun
out there that he and I when he was little,
we would go back there and catch all we catch
bad catfish and blue gear on the backside of prairie,
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your cabras.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You can fi give away that that watering hole.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Man, Hey man, look now they got a much better fence.
They got shoe fences. Back then, there was only one fence.
And you know, like I say, I knew all the cameras.
Police say, Hey man, me and my son were just
going off some theme of you know, me and the coaches.
It might be me and two coaches. But it was
fun just going back there watching the stople go down
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as old.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Folks say yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Well you
got a chance to intake a lot of football. We
did the simulcast from Huntsville Panthers. Uh started off a
little slow and said they got it out of gear
and they just dominated, man. And and here's the crazy
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part about it, coaches, they're still to me on clicking
on all cylinders.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Man, Hey, that's the crazy part about it, because if
you if you look at the the box score, I
want to say they didn't but it was a back
and forth quote unquote defensive battle, but it was some
drop pad and some missed opportunities by both teams. The
first quarter, I think the play that broke A and
M's back, or not the play, but the drive where
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they threw the hell of mirror right before halftimes, I
think it took all the air out of their cells.
And then you give up the big play and then
you let them get the ball back and then, like
I say, the floodgates just opened. It was almost and
I know they had a lot of guys in their
secondary that was injured, but it just it. You know,
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you passed almost four hundred yards. You rushed for right,
it a little bit over too. It was a magnificent
day for the Panther offense. And it still was room
to put, you know, a fourteen on the board in
the first quarter, which really would have made it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Look out land right right right. And I do a
session with coach Peedaway. I gave Pantherson a minus. Right,
He's like, what I said, what coach? I said, I
know what you're looking at, but I know what I'm
looking for, you see, And so it's that's with just
a wiggeroom, and I don't want nobody to misinterpret what
I'm saying. Thoroughly satisfied with the product. But you know
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from coaching mode, coach, when you're always looking for ways
to get better. And that's an exciting thing about this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's all my time to think how coach used
to said, is you satisfied but you're not complacent. You
you still got room to grow. And if you look
at it when you whenever you don't score in a quarter,
that's not good. If you talked to coach Buten or
coach Jackson, they was like they probably say, man, we
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left this on the on the table. We didn't get
everything we could out of this drive. We should have,
you know, maybe a drop pass, a penalty, a bad throat,
you know, just those things that you would like to correct. Say,
hey man, against a good team, we might need to
get out to seven points on the board every quarter
(06:06):
as those to a zero on the board, or we
need to get two field goals. Uh, you know, just
different things like that that you want to keep striving for.
Is putting like they saying baseball, putting a crooked number
up instead of leaving that zero on the board for
every far.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right And you're talking about what a difference a week
way make. You're talking about somebody going from the outhouse
to the white house. Mister, I'm gonna say, mister, this week,
mister Peters gets five touchdown passes after a week of
having four interceptions or turnovers. Can you figure this thing out? Coach?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Man? If I could, I wouldn't be on the phone
with you right now. Look, man, you know, and that's
college football almost in a nut cell. Sometimes when especially
when you did with a very athletic quarterback and then
like I say, some of those intercepts. This is the
week before against Alabama State, probably could never happen again,
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like just having a ball flip out of your hands
and have it inaccepted, or a ball gets tipped by
two or three people get inaccepted. A ball that clearly
it should have been passed in appearance call gets inaccepted
and it's no penalty. So it's different things like that
that'll probably like say, never happened again. The other thing
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that may never happen again, but I hope it does
for the young man, is a five touchdown game. You know,
it's just like you say, it's like when you hide
in baseball, but it looks like you could see the
three and you can see the writings. Yeah, and everything
looks slow to you. And then it's like when you're
shooting basketball. It's like it's just something just feels so
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good about it coming out your hand and you can't
explain it. But then the other thing too, and I
you know, jokers was making plays for him, you know,
like to say, the hell mayor, which is probab some
of the worst defense I've seen. But a joker goes
up and high points the ball and makes a touchdown.
Then you know they make a couple other real he
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made some good throws, some throws the key guys out
of homes way going across the middle. And you know,
when it's just happening like that, it's like you can't
explain it and you just have to live in a
moment for the and the other thing too, these next
two defenses that's coming up in my opinion, and I
can say this because I'm not coaching. They not world
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beat us, so you may have a chance to maybe
open up the passing the game a little bit more.
But at the same time, you may just say, hey, man,
let's see these running backs and get on out here
with a fixure and then show the fall when we
want to as opposed to when we have to so
and then you may say, well, we're gonna throw it early,
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loosen them up, and then it's about to be blunt
poors trauma with them two running backs. And then the
third running back is doing well as well, So you
never know what you're gonna get out of the pair
of the offense, which is is a good thing that
now you can say, okay, y'all think y'all can step
up and stop these running backs. Okay, here's the here's
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a couple of guys going deep, here's a screen, here's
the a pass over the middle, and you still got
running backs that can catch the ball and get extra yoder.
So if you gotta cover the whole field with those guys,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And I like that that zone reference you was talking
about where it seemed like you don't hear anything. Everything
is slow motion and it's like the perfect storm all
day long. And like you said, it's something that you
just cannot explain. And all I can say is that
the great ones experience it more than the average joes.
So when you when you look at it from a
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coaching perspective's been in that drive receipt at both ends
of the spectrum. And let's be honest, you don't look
past any opponents. You've got two games starting off with
molding lines. This we can But at some point, coach,
do you start stretching, not losing total conversation or focus,
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but stretching a little bit looking across the yard because
you had not played the Jackson States. And then you
got this big enough cushion from the western side of
the conference to where you can start experimenting more or
less of adding the more passing concept because right now
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the book on Purview is stopped to run. You control
the panthers, and I know though the mondrac one game
at the time, we want to go one to oh.
And when we are dealing with humans, young humans who
are confident right now, even though they hadn't played their
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best game yet. Still, in my opinion, how do you
balance that man? And be honest with me? Coch as
from the coach's perspective, do you start start trying to
do not major prep, but some minor preps toward Jackson?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Perhaps well, I want to be honest from a coaching standpoint,
and then it goes back to a staffing standpoint. So
you may say, look, my coordinators and my position coaches,
we're gonna focus on these two games at hand, my
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graduate assistant and my analyst. You guys start getting stuff
ready for the SWAG Champions games. Let's and I may say, look,
the top swopeens are Alabama State and Jackie State. So
I may say, two guys, depending on my numbers, all
(11:52):
I want you to do is find out jack and
State's I want to look at every play that they
scored on and every play that they got a sack
or tackle. Pots if I'm looking at jack And State offense,
and if I may take another two guys and do
the same thing for Alabama State, then I may say,
two of you guys, I want you to look at
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every player on Alabama on Jackson State defense where they
gave up eight yards there more in the running game
and twelve yards the more in the past game. Let's
see is it scheme or is it personnel? The reason
why they gave up certain plays, and what I would do,
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and this is actually what I did as a head
coach and a coordinator. I would have my grad assistance
on my student assistant. I may say, hey, man, you
take these three games and you have to do a presentation,
like if you're the defense coordinator, you get in front
of the whole defensive staff, I want p and ten
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first and ten second and short long short meetium loan
third and short medium loan and any trick plays and
you have to do a presentation with the percentages, what
plays they do well, what plays we definitely have to stop,
what don't they do well? And then that gives my
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position coaches some insight to when we get to that game.
We already have some information for my coordinators and my
position coaches to look into. So that's the way I've
seen it done on the high school level like that,
and I've seen it done on the collegiate level where
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you like say, that's why you have so many analysts,
grad assistants, student assistants that can do some of the
legwork for your coordinator. And I could tell you, And
I wish we could get David. David Metcalf played for
me at Praierview and he was my grad assistant. Now
he's on the defensive staff at the University of George.
(13:56):
If he could get on the phone and tell you
some of the things that they have enough people to
look at man, you would be amazed. Like they have
guys that all they do is look at man past protection.
They have guys that all they look at maybe is
zone or slide pass protection. One guy all he does
is look at where's the ball thrown? And he can
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give you a diagram almost it almost looked like a
bullet short with his holes in a piece of paper.
Every time the ball is thrown, they put a dot
on the paper. Then you from that you can see, hey, man,
we really they never throw the ball to the flat,
but they real good throwing the ball to the hashes
(14:39):
or the middle of the field of deep. So it's
a whole lot of information that you can gather, but.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You have to have the man power to do that right,
which is one of the instances that coach of Tremaine
Jackson laid out to accept the job at preview and
people are saying, man, he's got more staff and help
than any of the coach and times passed, and it's
kind of the proof and the putting concept showing up
(15:05):
now at this part of the season. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And if you think about it, just think about the
playoff one that they had at Valdosta State where you
have to you can't, in my pinions, you can't wait
until the Friday or the Saturday after you play to
start getting information on the team that you playing next week.
You get information out and then you pull from that
(15:32):
information that you have, and we usually do three games
per team that we place. I may find the latest game,
I may find a game where they're playing against somebody
that runs a very similar defensive US and I may
find a game where if I'm like that defensive coach,
I'm looking at a game where they score the most points,
(15:53):
and I'm looking at a game where they score the
least amount of points. That's available for me. Back then
in the swag, you had to give your three last
games and then you could cross reference if you got
a game early in the season. But now I think
what they call it a portal, you had to leave
your portal open and eat school. They can pick whatever
(16:14):
games they want from whatever games you have in the cloud.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
More or less, yes, sir. Now, I'm gonna come back
to that hopefully when I remember. But I want to
touch on this is when it's good to have allies
throughout the brotherhood of coaching, right because yeah, sometimes they
can give you some insights on a kid, a personality,
or some traits that won't show up all the time
(16:41):
on see them, and even some if the truth be told, coach,
some little personal information that you know can get under
their skin and help throw their gay off. You know,
they call it gamesmanship. You know it ain't to give
me some insights now when all of that is in
factor once again, that where the numbers count to help
(17:02):
you get these little tid bits and information coming upon it.
Now when you go back. And this is the point
I was going to be leaning into references. I understand
you got to have Felm and footage to show, you know,
some people can compare. But I'm kind of a part
of me saying, man, you figure it out as the
(17:22):
game go along. And I understand that how big an
issue because they used to be the time back and
my time of playing. Yeah, they give you some film.
Well by the time you try to figure in pieces
staying together, it ain't even worth looking at. You got
to go out there and you know they say on
hope and prayer.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Anyway, Well, now I think because they started finding schools
if the film got in later, you uploaded late, because
that would happened between first school and I mind you,
when I got the grammar when we played the Alabama schools,
especially Alabama and m you may not get their Saturday
(18:01):
games until Monday evening or just say it may be
Tuesday mornings, and you know, lo and behold. We knew
the people at the post office, so if something came late,
we might could get somebody that we knew to say hey,
or we might tell them, hey, send it on a
Greyhound bus instead of by mail, so it was all
(18:22):
that kind of stuff, and then people wouldn't send it
on time, so it was all that kind of stuff.
But you do the film is help. I think the
other thing too, and I may have mentioned this before.
I had a buddy of mine that they went to
the I'm trying to think of the department on campus,
well basically where just say, if you have a kid
(18:42):
with a learning disability that maybe not not here, And
they went and found a student that could read lips
and watch the TV version of the game so they
could see what a coach was saying. Or they may
just say, if I have swack TV, I may sit
in my backyard and watch the game and see if
I can hear what are the players saying on the field.
(19:05):
That will help me determine whether the offense is going
to the right or to the left. Because some teams
they may say twenty they might say twenty six east,
a twenty six west right and left, or they may
you know, I worked at a school that we were
paying against somebody and they called it by the school's mascot.
(19:25):
So just say, if Preview is playing Alabama State, they
might say Haunted basketball. I mean, we're gonna run dome
to Alabama State sign up. They say basketball panther or something.
Were running dome to the left of we say weight
room of home. You know, we running to the homes.
You know, it's all those kind of little cod words
(19:47):
that you could pick up from watching the game on
TV that, like say, back in the day, you wouldn't
even think about doing. But it's all that type of
stuff that goes into you know, scout and trying to
get that one upsmanship or you know, all that type
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, little coach, that sounded like what the Patriots were doing, right.
They just took advantage of every loophole in the room
book to get their inside advantage.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Right, hey man, look now, now I'm gonna tell you
what the Patriots were doing. They would go and watch
the team practice if they came to their facility or
to you know, sometimes people practice at their own status.
But I'm gonna just say just say, for like the
Bayou class, for lack of a if gramming practice first,
(20:34):
then some graanding coaches may go up to iget what
they called it the foyer or whatever level they called
the loads and try to stay around and watch practice
or something. You know, it's stuff like that that happens,
you know, and you can't see because the dome is
so big. You got a joke, he goes stand up
by the pole. But you know, it's all kinds of
the espionage. But what the Patriots was doing was flat
(20:56):
out illegal taping people's practices or whatever. And I don't
know if you herds. In a high school in Texas,
a kid had a wearable technology and a coach found
it and didn't turn it in. And also I know
of coaches. I know this happened to a school in
South Louisiana. A kid transferred from one school to another.
(21:18):
And this is what happened in the swack as well.
The huddle pass word got passed from one player to another,
and depending on the huddle account, you can go in
and watch people's practices if you have certain passwords. Now
in most cases you can only watch the games. But
if you have a certain password, and if I know,
(21:41):
what are you gonna do? What are you practicing to
do against me? When this is the defense that they
expected us to line up in. Now I can either
tweak my defense or see this is how they planning
on attacking us. So it's a lot of espionage that
goes on in the world of college football. And one thing,
I laughed that, And you know some people might not
(22:03):
think it's that funny, but you know the preview coaches
they put the seat up behind me. Well, one game,
I just want to say, they were in bat and
Ruge's playing well. Having a seat behind you when you're
the visiting team, it doesn't make any sense at all.
So I thought, I laugh at that when I felt like,
why do they have a seat up and the coaches
from stuffing can look directly at them. So it was
(22:25):
you know, it's all that kind of stuff. You try
to hide stuff, but man, sometimes you end up out
tricking yourself a little.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Bit right right in the bottom line, still got to
get out there and execute it. You know, you can
draw it up, but you still got to stop it
one way or the other. We're talking with Coach heightst
Northern Or after further review Cancers with a strong dominating
performance as they getting ready to take on the Golden
Lions this coming weekend. Of course, you can listen to
(22:54):
coach and fill up on the play by play here
at the Open Mic Broadcast Network. Now. Coach we got
to addressed the elephant in the room. Nasty brawl this
past weekend between the Wildcats and the Tigers, a feline battle,
if you would, I understand it to a degree, and
(23:17):
to another degree, it makes absolutely no sense the excuse
Sometimes people say, well, they shouldn't come in at the
same tumuel. That's been a design for a lot of
stagings for many years, and it is.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What it is.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There awesome degrees of timing and programs in place. A
what and how do you prevent this from happening in
the future? And can you hold anyone as far as
an authoritative position accountable? Was this or just a case
(23:56):
of young minds and young testosterron? Gone?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Wow? I tell you what, man. One of the scariest
events I've ever been involved in was the Praierview Grammar
fight the year before I came to preview. I was
on Grammary Staff and the sea kids and guys win
him to see coaches getting swung on as well. Was scared,
(24:25):
and I actually thought that I wasn't gonna get the
job at Prayer of You because of the way the
fights happened or whatever. But uh, you know, sometimes things
are gonna happen. You try to police with I understand
that they usually do, and and you know, just from
the I'm gonna say the reports that I've got, it
(24:47):
didn't just start with the guys walking down hill. Is
started well before that, with maybe the kickers involved and
they warm them up because you know, they wore them
up separately. But it's a whole lot of things that
are being said about how it started. Then I heard
some comments that were made about coach Joseph not being
(25:09):
the leader. And the thing that gets me is you
try to prevent all that stuff from happening. Sometimes it's
gonna happen. But it's almost like if you have never
been in that situation, you can't say what you will
or will not do. Yes, you see somebody that you love,
and those guys love each other, from player to coach,
(25:32):
coach to coach, player the players. You never know what
you might do when you see your brother out there
fighting somebody else. So your brother getting jumped on a crowd,
and so it's a lot of stuff that goes into it. Unfortunately,
it happened, and people could say, oh, that's just HBCU.
Now that that I mean a couple of years ago
(25:53):
it was Michigan and Michigan State in the tunnel, the
same thing, one way in, one way out, and you
see guy, you know the Eli h versus Florida earlier
this year with the pregame stuff. So it's a lot
of stuff that goes into it. And I just hate
the way that they tried to portray Coach Joseph because
coach Coach Joseph is a guy that's gonna have his
players back. And when he talked about disrespect, I totally
(26:16):
understood where he was coming from. And it's a lot
of people that are in bad situations for either disrespecting
someone or you know, i'd say, sort of putting up
with disrespect. But it's just a I want to say,
a nothing burger. You know, Oh that looked bad, but
(26:37):
because yeah, it looked bad. But sometimes it's just one
of those I'm not gonna say there's nothing you could
do about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You can say necessary evil or necessary evil? Shall you say?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I mean, it's it's just one of those. It should
have I would say, if I had to put a
blame on it, I would say, if the thune came
out first, either the officials or the security or police
should have made sure that all their guys were out
(27:10):
if that's the case, and separated. They said. Normally when
you play at Grantlin, the visiting team takes the far
end of the field for warmups in pregames after halftime
they do that, or they go to the farst island.
From my understanding, that did not happen. So but at
(27:30):
the same time that Grantland have a right to put
their hands on people if they did, and the guys
from Bethune, in my opinion, should have been a little
bit smarter. I'm not gonna go to another place and
just start popping off at the mouth if that's what happened.
(27:51):
You know, I'm not gonna get out of line. I'm
gonna hey man, you know, I might apologize excuse me
before I go in there and say, heymen, none of
y'all been not touched me. Type of situations. So it's
different ways that everybody could have handled. But I think
moving forward is definitely gonna be some lines drone in
the staying about who's gonna go first, everybody out at
(28:15):
one time, clear lines of demarcation or separation between the teams.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Right now, it kind of reminds me when Dewley was
coaching at Prairie View and it was Baton Rouge, and
I think this was a little bit different because I say,
I don't recall everything, but something about standing in the
middle of the field or stepping on the logo cake.
Do you remember that what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Though, So this may have happened. I want to say
this was when coach Duly came back, because it happened
at Prairiview, because I remember this because Adam was on
an unofficial visit and I see all the police call.
I'm outside of staying them and I see all the
police call and police running in the stadium where my son,
(29:04):
who's a high school kid is and I'm trying to
get in there, like, hey, my son is in there.
I need to find out what's going on. Is a
shooting or stabbing or fighting or what's going on? And
I get in that man low and behold it was.
It was some hooking going on. But it started from
what I understand, because I want to say one of
(29:25):
the kids that started off at Priview transferred to Southern
and may have gone to the local defensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Old man, what was the kids name?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So from what I understand, he may have said something
some guys some preview that was still there then the
preacher and that led to a big malee. So you know,
it's one of those another and I was telling somebody
the other that's what made people start wearing the number
first on the back of the shirts and pregame warm
(30:02):
us because you have video of it, and you're supposed
to start video on everything that happens in the stadium
at a certain time. So now they can say, Okay,
this kid is number ninety nine on the back of
his shirt. Okay, he's clearly throwing punches of swinging him.
So it's different things like that. That's how a lot
of that stuff evolved into where you see what guys
(30:24):
wearing pre game and to you know, to go from there.
But that that's sumping on the logo or spit on
the logo or jumping up and down, that's that's a
big no no, I think. But you know, at the
same time, and I've seen people get whooped by forty
points then want to get mad at somebody sumping on
the logo, like, nah, you should have stopped them talking
(30:44):
from scoring forty points, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, you know Baker Mayfield back in his day is
known for getting his team flag and dabbing it. And
I remember when Carol oun stood on the store, know
you know, and and yeah, I get it. And and
it's it's always it's three people, coach that always start trouble,
(31:08):
always start trouble. And I don't care where you go,
it's gonna be a wide receiver, it's gonna be a
defensive back, or it's gonna be one of them dog
on kickers. It's always the one that start commotion. And
you know, I'm right about it, coach.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
But you know what, the kidder's just catch raised everybody
figure they can whoop the kitchens. That's funny why they
could be up all. I was at a game and
the kickers was trying to warm up and like the
flag girls was almost ready to whoop the kickers.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It was one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Like but yeah, man, you never know what. But you
know it's like they have you never been in that arena.
You can't face uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Once again we're talking with coach heist northern coach. I know,
uh this this this is mental, they say as sauty
sweet gear for you enjoying the game coverage, man, but
you can't feel good by what's going on on the bluff.
It's hard and I know it's hard for you to
sometimes separate because let's be honest, we're all human. Yeah,
(32:12):
Purview made life comfortable for you, Grambling help you get established,
but something's going to always be home. What are you
seeing from the fan perspective, the coaching perspective, the supportive
perspective of what can remedy the situation down in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Well, it's a couple of different things that's going on.
Or as being said, like I say, part of it
is we have to evolve in terms of the NIL game.
That's one thing that has to evolve. The other thing
that has to evolve is the I say that the
(33:00):
ports of fans, not just going to games and going
on road trips. We need and I'm saying, we we
need people that's gonna say, hey, I work at this company.
They making help with XYZ in terms of funding or
I And I'm gonna be honest with you. If you
go to Southern facilities, Southern is not in the top five.
(33:24):
If you look at the stadium in the field of house.
You may say, oh, that's nice, But truth be told,
I would put for Everew ahead. I'll put Jackson State ahead,
I would put Alabama State ahead. I would put Alabama
A and M ahead. Who is my other school? Oh,
(33:44):
Grammar is ahead of Southern, just in terms of if
you go inside the building and really look at it,
you would say, if I had a child, I would
rather send my kids there, taking away the fan base
and the fans support. Where's my son gonna be at
most of the day. I would send my child to
(34:05):
these other schools before I get to something. But people
in Baton Ruge don't want to hear that. But like
I say, I call it like I said, because I
put my money where my mouth did as well, So
I can. I feel like I can tell the truth
whether or not I coach at Southern or not. That's
I say. That's that's That's not a part of my
(34:27):
game plan. So I don't have to mince words as
a former student athlete about what I see going on
at my school. The other thing is, and I'm gonna
say it until I passed out of turn Blue of
go to the upper room. Southern. We have to get
(34:49):
everybody on the same word, same line, same page, and
we not on that from a administrative standpoint of the
chairman of the board, the athletic director, the head coach,
all three of them not seeing the same I think
they seeing the same vision. But how do you get
(35:10):
there is not the same path? Everybody want to see
them when, but how do you get there with what
you're doing? Is not the way to go about doing it.
And I said it. I said again, the schools that
I have in success have everybody with the same vision
(35:34):
and pretty much the same way to get there. When
you when you you can have the same vision. But
when you don't have the same you know, some people
are gonna go by both playing or train. If everybody's
not getting that the same way, then you're gonna end
up failing because everybody's not taking the same path on
that campus to get there. And that's that's my honest opinion.
(35:57):
And I'm not telling you something that I heard. I'm
telling you what I know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Okay, Okay, Now it's ironic that you would mention the plane,
trains and a coach to a degree. Isn't it a
good thing that people are traveling the different ways as
long as they arrive the same destination, don't.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm gonna say why, I don't think so. Because the
head coach may see I need this to be able
to win at this gup. The asletic director may say, well,
I think you need this. The chairman of the board
or the president may say I think you ought to
(36:43):
do this, or I think this person needs to do that,
And when they're not being the same, especially if you
end up with personality differences, are sunfi if I come
to you and say, hey, I need this for my program,
are you telling me no because you don't want to
see me be successful or because you don't like me.
(37:06):
Are you telling me no because realistically we don't have
it in the budget. And I think that's where the
question comes from when it comes to these coaches. Everybody
want to blame the head coach, But when the head
coach is the man that's pretty much in front of
most of those institutions. You have very few schools that
(37:29):
people know who the AD is. But nine times out
of ten, if maybe just say besides the baton rouge
because coach thanks is on TV, you're not gonna know who.
You're gonna know who the head football coach is. You
probably gonna know who the head basketball coach. Then most
places you may know who the AD is. But like
you say, the football coach is in a lot of
(37:52):
instances the face of the university and the face of
the program. So if I am behind that person, I'm
gonna try to do my dog on this to make
sure that that person is successful. And personally, I don't
think that was the situation with coach Grays that everybody
wanted to see him be successful, right, And I get that,
(38:15):
you know.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And it's just like whether it's a football program, a
corporation or school board or whatever, those on the front
line they know what it's gonna take to be successful.
And your mid tier, let's let's say your first lab
management I either ad principles or whatnot. They are to
(38:38):
be the advocate and saying hey, I know you asked
for ten. I know they might not give you ten,
but I'm at least trying to get you at eight. Okay, okay,
and then and now that's what I'm sure for realistically,
but you might have to settle for six. But I
(38:58):
am gonna go to bat for you because then that
that layer of management and we just say, since we're
talking football football, he goes explain to the people who
might not understand everything that's going on, but they got
the financial backing or the power of yal Nate. Okay,
they make it plain enough to where even if I
don't understand, I'm gonna trust you because you're in the
(39:21):
position to help lead us to where we all want.
Ultimately is success in this case wins championshipship titles. But
the thing is, it's like it's like a reverse pyramid, no,
not a perverse, a multi level of marketing program. The
everything is is you know that the top heavy is
(39:42):
top heavy. I don't and coach are almost cuts just
a minute ago. But if you said like this, damn
if we like each other, if our goal is to
win a championship, let's do what we need to do
to win a championship. Because usually your boy or your
no buddy don't get it. You get the job done,
(40:03):
but because you like them, you sacrifice for them. But
then the joker who's capable, and you might be an
a personality, he's a big personality. But the ultimate goald
is you all are looking and getting the same results,
and sometimes you got to put your personal feelings to
the side.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
But that makes sense to you. Some people don't make
sense to and that's that's where that's where the problem
comes in. Oh and by the way, we don't want
you to stay as a head coach what you don't
have or you know, we it's it's so much more
that goes into it, right right, you know, just different
things like that. But it's you know, sometimes power and
(40:43):
money is the uh the poison that no doubt, that's
sure what should be a good relationship, you know, just
you know, it's almost one of those just because instead of.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That that's what's right right right, Well, I do mean
this in the most sincere way. I hope that uh
jaggs do get it together uh soon because it's good
for the conference, you know, and there's a time and
season for each and.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Every one, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
But old saying it say, ain't no fun when the
rabbit got the gun, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
You look, I used to tell him jokes that pray view,
when the rabbit get the gun, he is unmerciful. Yo.
Don't you better hope he don't get it because once
he gets it, Oh boy, look, it ain't no nothing
to six stout it's a buck shot coming back at you. So, yes, sir,
(41:44):
one of those type of things that rabbit is unmerciable.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
No doubt about it, no doubt about it. Well, coach,
I appreciate you always.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We're looking forward to your call this weekend. Uh, We're
gonna wrap this week's segment up, but give you some
closing thoughts from coming so shee what you got for us?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Hey man, this the season is quickly winding down, and
I am sort of looking forward to it and not
looking forward to it because you know, it gives me
something to do on the weekends. Uh, and you know,
even I might try to go get in the woods
before this game this weekend, so hopefully we'll have a
good day if we do go. But I like getting
(42:23):
on campus and seeing the Panther backs and you know,
seeing up on the player. So I'm looking forward to
it and then trying to see exactly where this thing
is gonna end up. You know, hopefully Pery, you end
up hosting the championship game on campus. I don't know
what all the time breaking scenarios are, but I.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Really look right now though, but there's still a little
light on.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, so we'll We'll see how it goes at the
end of the day, because you know, that'll be good
not only for Praierview to be able to hose it
be the first team out of the West now that
all corners in the West. They didn't count there because
they were in the East at the time. But I
just think it'll be good for a Western Conference team
(43:07):
to have the facilities on national TV once again. I
think that'll be good for prayer View and the conference
as well of being able to host and hopefully have
a good crowd. I don't know how to ticket situation go,
but hopefully, you know, I think people will show up
for that one of you know, good weather. You know
they especially they end up paying Jackson, a team that
(43:30):
hadn't been here in a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Right, right, Well, I got more confidence and show up
for that than for these other two home games that
will remain. And my over under this week, believe it
or not, is five thousand, So hopefully I'm way off
on that in a positive way. Yeah, I see what
I'm saying. But with that being said, he is our
football google coach heightst Northern, and I am the radio guy,
(43:56):
doctor Mike Princefurd. Mind of you guys and listening to
the Panthers live out here at the open Mic Broadcast
Network on the YouTube channel at open Mic Broadcast Network.
Kickoff time will be at two pm Central Standard Time.
The Panthern's going for the juggular, if you would. They'll
take on the Golden Lions, trying to finish strong. Heading
(44:17):
to postseason play representing the West within the Southwestern Athletic Conference.
The time has come where we must exit stage left.
Remind you guys again to follow me on X at
the Mike Print Show, subscribe to their YouTube channel at
the open Mic Broadcast Network, and until the next time
you guys, be blessed and we'll see you on the
(44:41):
other side.
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