December 17, 2025 • 36 mins
🎙️ IN TODAY’S EPISODE Coach and I dive into the Celebration Bowl and a whole lot more as we continue navigating toward the exciting world of basketball season! From bold plays on the field to fresh expectations on the court, we’re breaking down key moments, sharing insight, and keeping the momentum rolling.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome back to my locker room, A disappointed locker room,
I might add, I am joined by the Guru himself,
coach Man Peedaway. Coach, how are you today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, I'm with you in your sorrow. I'm a swat
guy all the way, and I'm a little disappointed in
the outcome of the football game. I thought we had
domine But other than that, sir, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, even I'm okay for the most part when I
keep replaying critical situations and how they played an if
I would have, could a, should have gained. But as
a result, you have what you have. I'll say this
(01:02):
a very entertaining game, A definitely taiale of two halves.
Oh yes, you you go from oh Man, all we
gotta do is tie the bow up. And this is
Christmas early under the tree, right and to like, I
(01:23):
can't believe what I just witnessed before we go deeper
in the woods and Coach, I don't even know how
much I can stomach this today, but we gonna gonna
try to go back. Get your assessment, you're grading or
whatever you want to call it, doesn't take away of
a fantastic twenty twenty five. But man, oh man, oh man,
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this one is a gut wrencher for me, coach, right,
where's the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Gut Richard for a lot of types of fans. I
think we all saw the foods go. I mean when
they jumped out twenty one nothing and halftime we probably
we as fans relax, and I think the players relax,
and I guess that's just a part of it. And
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then once the team gets momentum. This was a prime
example of what happens when you allow your opponent to
uh to get that most because once momentum gets there,
it's kind of hard to uh to turn it around.
And I thought that there were probably a couple of
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plays here or there there could have been a difference
in that ball game. I know a lot of people,
even to me to this day, I still say on
the two point point conversion, the ball was never in
the end zone. I don't I don't think they made
it over the pie line with that ball. But it's
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obvious that the officials after the play they say, yes,
it was good, but really it should not have come
down to that. I wonder if they had it to
do over again, with their reposition to the field goal
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in a different spot. They centered the ball, and I
think with the type of kicker that you all have,
I thought the balls should have been on the hash mark.
But that we can all second guess everything now. But
when it's live and when you got to make decisions
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on the spot, it's a little different. It's a little different. Nevertheless,
the great season by the Prairieview Panthers, and they are
swack champions.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They are the swack champions, and that will go down
in the street books. You know, we've been giving letter
grades all season. I'm very interested to hear. What is
your letter grade from this performance, sir? And why.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
On the last grade of the year, I'm gonna have
to give TV a B minus. I'm giving them a
B minus because they did make it to the championship game.
I'm at a celebration bowl. They did perform, not perhaps
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up to their standards, but they did have a good showing.
So I'm gonna give them a B minus, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And I'm just a smidget above. I gave a B plus. Okay,
for the fact you did have the lead at halftime.
You were cli on all cylinders, but there were a
lot of small foxes that destroyed the vine. That led
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to our end results of that forty to thirty eight loss,
four overtimes. And like I said, people going to put
some emphasis on the two point conversion that was or
what wasn't. And according to the rules that we did
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a little research, if you kicked that pieline, it's equivalent
to the ball crossing the plane. Okay, No, I.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Thought the ball had to clip the piline, not the well. Now, well,
because I think to me, that's where the controversion comes in.
That person may have kicked the pilot, but the ball
was was already out out of bounds. It was on
the outside.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, that's just like if your feet were inbound and
you caught the ball out of bound, it's still a touchdown, right, yes, right,
so I guess, And it's like an elbow or shin
equals being down. So it's a great area. But once again,
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it's an area that should have never been explored to
begin with. And but you like to say that it
is what it is. Then, of course the block or
what would have been a block kick that was the
false start and saw I'm saying, yeah that was a
false thought. Yeah, okay, tomato, tomato, But I'm I'm looking
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at three critical situations. One was the reverse fumble, two
was the unchallenged fumble that Prairie obviously had gotten, and
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then number three is going to be And I'm stuck
right now because that's how foggy my head he is
right now, the fumble, the block, and then the fourth
and fifteen on the last hope for South Carolina State's season,
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and you give up seventeen yards to allow them to
extending this thing to the four overtimes that we had. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
I this is just me. I attribute that to lack
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of adjusting from a culture. Staff. Is that being harsh
from your point of view? Sir?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well know, if that's your opinion, there's nothing. No, I
don't think it's harsh. And and that's just that's the way.
That's the way you see it, and a lot of
other people see it that way. That's just that's the
nature of the beasts. That's why we'll call Monday morning quarterbacks,
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because yes, we can see all these things after the
game has taking place, but live while it's happening. While
it's happening, that's when the decisions are being made and
that's when they have to be made.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And yes, that's why I.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Think that's why the guys get them the so called
big bucks to make those decisions.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. And we cannot take away credit
from the consistency and the tenacity of South Carolina State.
The young man Ryan Scubblefield came in and pulled a Houdini,
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you know, just mesmerized the Panthers defense. And another painful truth, coach,
is that there's no doubt that Persu's defense carried them
throughout the season being consistent. But this unit gave up
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forty second half points. That's almost unheard of. That's that's
that's not negotiable, you would think. And although it went
four overtime, they only gave up five points in overtime.
So they gave up thirty five points in the second
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half of a championship game playing quote unquote an equal
cheered opponent. This wasn't an FBS opponent. Man, that's a collapse, coach,
that's a collapse.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yep, they it. I mean, when you when you look
at the individual status, I like cameraon for TV had
four hundred and twelve yards.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Passing, set a record, set a celebration Bowl record.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And just you your guy's double field he was he
on there, had two hundred and thirty four yards uh,
two testdowns at a at an interception. Cameron never threw
it assets and had four touchdowns. But it just it
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just wasn't TV's day.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And and that's sad to say. And there's a terrible
time for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Coach, for that to happen in your coaching career, as
illustrious as it was, can you put yourself or even
remotely come close to experiencing a game like that from
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you sitting on the bench orchestrating, uh, your team up
and down the floor.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
When you coase long enough, this is gonna happen. I
don't care who you are, this this will happen. You
take the great Nick Sabing. He would call off some
games when he was at Alabama that he lost that
he knew he shouldn't have lost. He knew he had
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better talent, he knew that sometimes when momentum gets on
your opponent's side, it's hard to turn the time. It's
hard to turn the time. And that's that's all this PV.
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Now here's another thing that I think hurt in the
celebration ball, the long halftime, the long halftime, you had
all the momentum going into halftime, sitting around waiting for it,
all the halftime festivities to get over with it. You
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lost your momentum.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So you think they had too much time to conjure
up a trick played, don't half time.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's the only thing that that That's the only thing
that got me. I'm saying, you didn't have to have
that score twitter one points in the first half. Why
do we need it now? And that's what I was
saying as it happened.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Why Yeah, man, it is rough once again. Once again.
I don't want to be the dead horse. You know,
you come up short and celebration bow. But come Fall
twenty twenty six, the perview Adam University Panthers will be
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defending SWACK champions yep, and that can't be taken away.
But old to finish, to finish, to finish. I'm I'm
gonna get off of this coach because there's two close
to Christmas and I don't I don't want to. I
don't want to have a blue Christmas. You know, I'm
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trying to get this out of my system.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right, but get too close you and so many other
TV nations. Uh, they're too close to the edge. So
so let's let's walk it back. Let's walk it back.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Okay, okay, thanks for talking me down, coach. I needed that.
Thanks to thanks.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Let's come back.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, that's why you That's why you're the Google, sir,
that's why keeps you know, well, the the the off
season begins with recruiting, transfer portals, n I L deals, readjusting,
and start for the next deal. We got new life, coach,
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and it's called basketball, right right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You know, you still gotta you still gotta finish this
season out here. This is the strange thing about football
right now. In all sports, now, your season is not
really over. Your season just begins. Begins now because now
that you've played your last game, you've got to re
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recruit the kids who have eligibility to make sure that
they're coming back to your own program. Yes, sir, And
that's that's the big thing. That portal, that poor portal
has created a disaster for some programs.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, and that's the that's another harsh reality people would
take for granted, oh Man, coach Jackson was able to
accomplish this in year one, then it's gonna be easy
peasy for him on from here on up. That's not
necessarily the case. You have the perfect storm with everything
that was aligned the way it was, and to get
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that close, and like I said, Coach, I honestly would
have preferred just to get blown out than to lose
the way we lost.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, you got some coaches like that. They rather be
blown out than to lose a close game. They got.
I mean, that's one of my best friends in basketball.
That's the way he was. He says, Man, you I
rather you to blow me out, don't beat me by
no one.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I know that's right. Yeah, I know that's right. But
you know, like I said, we congratulations Coach Jackson and
PV nation go back that it did report attendance coach
twenty six thousand, seven hundred and three in attendance. Not
the most. I don't think it was the worst when
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it was low as far as expectation goals. But when
you attribute the short turnaround notice for TV fans coming
from Jackson being going to Atlanta, that's eight hundred plus
miles from the PV area to Atlanta alone, and then
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everything with the economics, the way it is. It just
is what it is, and we knew this was a
fact that the Swack champion has the short turnaround and
the only way they can eventually get out of that
predicament is that you change championship partners. But ESPN controls
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that native and we don't see that changing no time soon.
So that's just part of the caveat of becoming a
Swack champion. I gotta move on, Coach check, I got.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
We do have basketball look forward to.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, on both the man and women's side, we've had
some non conference wins and I think we're gonna be
in for a big treat when it comes to basketball.
Talking about southerns men and women have had some h
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some some great wins. Uh. And even even your Panthers
they've had some good war I think coach Smith is
gonna have has one of his better teams. Uh. He's
already won four non conference games. Southern men have won
four non conference games. Grambling and and Bethol Cookman they
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all have uh one game. In fact, every team in
the Swack has at least one win, with the exception
of Florida and them.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Florida.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Something has not taste victory on the men or the
women's side.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And that's a little rare material for family. But everything
is rare air for fam these days with with athletics
who has been u kind of discombobulated of recent The
Panthers will on the men's side, they'll be taking on
Paul Quinn this this Saturday. When you play the face
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of Paul Quinn, you really want to execute get your
guys reps rotation. You're still defining what your rotation would be.
Who's going to be your six seven man coming off
of it? Are these games? August? All games are worth it.
But for lack of me being better descriptive, what's the
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value of playing a game of that magnitude? Coach uh?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Mental stability for your players? I mean you you being
pounded with the game guarantees your kids need to see
some type success. And that's probably the reason why coach
Smith has them schedule. That's just like the game last
night Alabama and M defeated North Alabama. But that's another
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A son school conference school that A and M B
at home. So coaches have different philosophy. Now, don't get
me wrong. Now, when I coached I believe in number
one playing trying to get as many home games as
I could, and I would play down at least one,
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if not two games a year. But I said play down,
I either played Division two or a strong Innai opponent.
And I did it number one. If it's Division two,
it was a relationship game. You know, I had friends
and coaching when we were Division two. That's still like
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coming to Huntsville. And then I did it for attendance.
I did it to make money. You know, I've told
you on several occasions that if I brought in Tuskegee
or Miles, that that's a sellout for our fan base.
And so you have different reasons for playing these type games,
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and a lot of it has to do with letting
your players experience a win before you get into conference play.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Okay, So I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Not against that. I think it's I think it's okay
because really, when you look at it, that's what we're doing.
What we're playing the Power Forwards, they're playing down, right, Yeah,
they're playing down. So all we do we doing the
same thing, and in some cases we're helping any other
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HBCU schools. So from that aspect, I believe in it.
I believe in it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Now. I know the pay the paydays or like night
and day literally, but three five thousand dollars can go
a long way on a Division two or NAIA program.
And the vocal that we know is not as much
overhead of running a basketball operation as in comparison to football,
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just on the numbers alone, but introduce us coach to
the world of basketball. How far can three five thousand
dollars go on on a smaller program?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But it goes a long way. And then in fact, nowadays,
I think they're paying more than that. You know, these
schools are getting five five to six thousand dollars to
UH to bring these people in, and that's a lot
of money for some of those school budgets, and they
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look forward to those games. And a lot of times
when you play at school like that, they don't have
to spend anything from that that game guarantee that they'll
get it. Because in my case, I gave up room.
I gave rooms and food I provided and the rooms
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so that they could clear their money. And that's why
I had people calling me for games, you know, so
I didn't have to reach out. It was never difficult
for me to come up with a home schedule.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, wouldn't it also be a perfect storm if he
had this where I would call a turnaround trip where
a team could come that same day, play the game,
get their money, give them to go but meal, and
they gone back to their campus that same day.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, you take miles miles and Burningham them is only
like an hour and thirty minutes from from our campers.
They could do that, and then most of the time
they did do that. You take Stillman, Stillman is an
hour forty five minutes for myur came. They would they
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have done that before. Now Tuskige Tuskigie is a little
three hours seven years. They would come up to day
of the game. Other years they come to night before.
So you're right, okay, And this is how they can
maximize their money.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, okay. Now when when when it's something like that
is set up, you're giving them that money, but you're
not actually paying for their bush. If they charte a
bus or anything like that. They got to get there
the best way they can, right.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right right, Most of those places already had the university
have their own transportation, but they have buses.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, okay, very good, very good. Now now we talked
about the men's side of things. Women still striking the iron,
as the iron is heating up as we get ready.
This is almost like a twilight zone of basketball because
you're about to have semester in in most cases, if
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it hadn't already happened, graduation has happened. So this is
kind of like that no man's land right now. What
were some of the things that you would do to
ensure that your team stays consistent and that everything is
going to be firing off when the season starts back
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up at the new semester.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, this is where this is where your schedule comes
into play. You don't want to give the kids a
long break because then it'd be like starting all over again,
and you don't have enough time before that first conference game.
So I would be trying to schedule a game as
late as the twenty or twenty first, keep the kids together,
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and then I would try to schedule one game before
that first conference game and bringing them back in other words,
as long as they would be at home, would be
four to five days for Christmas break. Then that way
you're not starting from scratch, because when you off from
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a week or more, you're starting over, and then you
have a you have a you have more of a
chance of having injuries and stuff when you give them that,
when they have that long break. And in case in points,
our men played last night, our women have played tomorrow night.
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The men are play again. And then I think coach
has one more game. Yeah, he has a game on Sunday.
So that means that he's still playing the way he scheduled,
the way I would have scheduled. Keep the kids around,
keep them together. Then you doing things now. This is
when This is when Thanksgiving break, Christmas break. This is
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when your team has to make sure that you're bonding.
After you played all these away games. You bond as
a group because.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's just you all.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's just you and your team. Now that we're at home,
it's not just always practice practice practice. Yeah, you get
practice in there. But now this is when we do
things as a team. This is when we go place.
Let's go to the movies, let's go both it. Let's
let's do some other stuff other than basketball. There. We
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don't have to worry about classes now, so let's bond,
Let's find out about each other's let's do our theory
is womanly, Our women's coach. She had one of the
greatest ideas ever and it worked perfect. She just had
a cookoff. She wanted to see how many of the
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ladies could could could really bag them pots and pans, okay,
and as a team. So this is when team bonding
is at its utmost. But it's just you all and
if your own campus, it's just you all on campus.
But nowadays everybody's off campus in apartments and stuff like that.
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But this is when you got to try to get
your team to ensure that you all have bonded together.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yes, sir, now, coach, I as you were talking and
you was talking about giving that four to five days
off for that Christmas break, and I'm pretty sure you
got a story of two that you could come up
with that. There may have been a guy that went
for the home visit and he didn't realize how homesick
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he was till it was hard for him to come back.
And some of them didn't come back, and you'd be like, wait, ant,
what do you mean? You know, have you ever come
across anything like that, coach?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And to be honest, my first team, my first team
as the head coach, my leading scoring rebounder, went home
for Christmas and did not come back. But he had
a reason. He had a reason, He had another responsibility.
He had become a father, and he felt like it
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was more important for him to be a dad than
for him to come back and play basketball. And I
understood that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I mean, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I talked to him and and everything, and I wished
him well and I agreed with his decision. But yeah,
that my first team, my first team as a head.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Coach, because that's one of your son. I appreciate your
morale and your uprightness, but I beat dog on right now,
do understand? And so does it make you almost apprehensive
overleasing you guys that you know, or you start making
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special plans to keep it. It's no place like home,
you know that's gonna always be true. But where you
just keep where you see it's that family. It's that
bonding time where you might say, hey, okay, guys, instead
of you all going back across state lines, we're going
to meet up with some of the coaches houses or
some boosters. Well, even though technically that should not have
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been happening. But you know, you don't have to answer
that question, don't answer that question, coach might incriminate yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
No, no, no, no, it's fair. It's fair because you
have some kids that live so far they do not
want to write home. And so yeah, we have helped.
We have made arrangements for kids. I've gotten with the
administration and made arrangement for kids that could not go home.
And then, just like you said, either I was that
coaches were involved when if you got a kid that
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cannot go home, that put it like this, No kids
ever ever was around here and didn't have Christmas dinner,
and it may have been at somebody's house. But we
took care of the athletes when that happened, and that's
still happened. Now. There will be times where you got
kids from international kids, you got kids that live far
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away that don't want to take that chance. And then
here's the other thing that they had to deal with.
I would give them all their options. Okay, but here's
my practice. My practice is gonna be and it's always
been the same. We will practice. We will practice at
one o'clock on the twenty seventh, at one o'clock. Now,
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if you don't feel like you can go, if you
think that you live in a place where you might
get snowed in. That might not be the best place
for you, because on the twenty seventh, at one o'clock,
we're gonna blow that whistle and if you're not here,
you're gonna get left behind. And so had some kids
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that didn't want to take that chance. They did not
want the chance. And then you got to think about
when I first started coaching. Now, kids didn't have a
lot of money. Some of them could not afford to
go home, and the intu way was not allowing you
back then to help those kids get home, right, So
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so you had you had all that, and then my
biggest fear, believe it or not, had nothing to do
with them traveling. My biggest fear was when they got
there all right. As a basketball player, when you go home,
you're gonna find a gym to go in. Now the
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yell in that gym. You got guys that think that
they're supposed to be where you are, So what they're
gonna do. They played hard, and some of them jealous,
and you look for injuries because they go after the
college kid because he's home, and you have to be
you have to be conscious of that. And we talked
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to the kids about that. Hey, there's somebody in your
neighborhood that wants to be a hero. They want to
be able to show everybody that they should be where
you are. So you got to take that into consideration
when you go and play these pickup games.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
No doubt, no doubt. You know that's that that that
because that ego can be a monster. Yep, you know
on both sides of the coin, you know, because you
did escape. If you allow me to use that rhym
and you come back, you're like, hey, I'm still the man,
you know, you know, and so everybody say, in order
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to beat the man, you gotta beat the man. So
you know that that testostrong can be very very serious.
And you know you talked about when my time at
Purview been from Saint LOUI I dare not try to
go back for Thanksgiving, Christmas or even summertime because I
knew the economical potential challenges that would lie here. Man,
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I get here and be like the roach motel, I
can't get out, you know. So you weather the storms
and you make the adjustments. But Coach, it's always great, man.
That's why I love hanging around you, man, because so
you bring out stuff that people get nugs. Oh, I
didn't even know that part was even part of the
factor to go in And you have taught me off
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my legs today to the coach U my celebration Bowl debacle.
We're gonna close this segment out. You got any closing
thoughts of segments or segments or any closing thoughts of comments.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well, yeah, I do have a comment. I will once again.
I want to congratulate you and TV Nation for your
swack championship. And this is just the beginning of the
next run. So you just take this as them starting
now to revenge what happened this year, and so you
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take that and then at the same time, I want
to encourage you to continue doing what you're doing, supporting HBCUs,
supporting pvs, getting the word out and we really need this,
and I want to encourage you to stay on your assignment. Sir.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, sir, I'm going to do all I can while
I can. We appreciate you so much and your kind words.
Hopefully by the time next week, God'll say the same.
In the creek, don't rise. I have a full recovery
and we can we can talk some hardwood and even
if we dare talk about some old college football that remain,
because that's some other stories we can pick up on.
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But right now I had to drown my sorrow rooms
and some black coffee and talking in the locker room. Coach,
once again, thank you for everything, sir, he is the guru.
Coach Van Penalway. I am the radio guy, Doctor Mike Prince,
reminding you guys that you can follow me on Twitter
x at the Mike Prince Show, subscribe to the YouTube
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channel at the open Mic Broadcast Network, and until the
next time you guys, be blessed and we'll see you
on the other side.
And welcome back to my locker room, A disappointed locker room,
I might add, I am joined by the Guru himself,
coach Man Peedaway. Coach, how are you today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, I'm with you in your sorrow. I'm a swat
guy all the way, and I'm a little disappointed in
the outcome of the football game. I thought we had
domine But other than that, sir, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, even I'm okay for the most part when I
keep replaying critical situations and how they played an if
I would have, could a, should have gained. But as
a result, you have what you have. I'll say this
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a very entertaining game, A definitely taiale of two halves.
Oh yes, you you go from oh Man, all we
gotta do is tie the bow up. And this is
Christmas early under the tree, right and to like, I
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can't believe what I just witnessed before we go deeper
in the woods and Coach, I don't even know how
much I can stomach this today, but we gonna gonna
try to go back. Get your assessment, you're grading or
whatever you want to call it, doesn't take away of
a fantastic twenty twenty five. But man, oh man, oh man,
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this one is a gut wrencher for me, coach, right,
where's the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Gut Richard for a lot of types of fans. I
think we all saw the foods go. I mean when
they jumped out twenty one nothing and halftime we probably
we as fans relax, and I think the players relax,
and I guess that's just a part of it. And
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then once the team gets momentum. This was a prime
example of what happens when you allow your opponent to
uh to get that most because once momentum gets there,
it's kind of hard to uh to turn it around.
And I thought that there were probably a couple of
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plays here or there there could have been a difference
in that ball game. I know a lot of people,
even to me to this day, I still say on
the two point point conversion, the ball was never in
the end zone. I don't I don't think they made
it over the pie line with that ball. But it's
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obvious that the officials after the play they say, yes,
it was good, but really it should not have come
down to that. I wonder if they had it to
do over again, with their reposition to the field goal
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in a different spot. They centered the ball, and I
think with the type of kicker that you all have,
I thought the balls should have been on the hash mark.
But that we can all second guess everything now. But
when it's live and when you got to make decisions
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on the spot, it's a little different. It's a little different. Nevertheless,
the great season by the Prairieview Panthers, and they are
swack champions.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
They are the swack champions, and that will go down
in the street books. You know, we've been giving letter
grades all season. I'm very interested to hear. What is
your letter grade from this performance, sir? And why.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
On the last grade of the year, I'm gonna have
to give TV a B minus. I'm giving them a
B minus because they did make it to the championship game.
I'm at a celebration bowl. They did perform, not perhaps
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up to their standards, but they did have a good showing.
So I'm gonna give them a B minus, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And I'm just a smidget above. I gave a B plus. Okay,
for the fact you did have the lead at halftime.
You were cli on all cylinders, but there were a
lot of small foxes that destroyed the vine. That led
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to our end results of that forty to thirty eight loss,
four overtimes. And like I said, people going to put
some emphasis on the two point conversion that was or
what wasn't. And according to the rules that we did
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a little research, if you kicked that pieline, it's equivalent
to the ball crossing the plane. Okay, No, I.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Thought the ball had to clip the piline, not the well. Now, well,
because I think to me, that's where the controversion comes in.
That person may have kicked the pilot, but the ball
was was already out out of bounds. It was on
the outside.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, that's just like if your feet were inbound and
you caught the ball out of bound, it's still a touchdown, right, yes, right,
so I guess, And it's like an elbow or shin
equals being down. So it's a great area. But once again,
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it's an area that should have never been explored to
begin with. And but you like to say that it
is what it is. Then, of course the block or
what would have been a block kick that was the
false start and saw I'm saying, yeah that was a
false thought. Yeah, okay, tomato, tomato, But I'm I'm looking
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at three critical situations. One was the reverse fumble, two
was the unchallenged fumble that Prairie obviously had gotten, and
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then number three is going to be And I'm stuck
right now because that's how foggy my head he is
right now, the fumble, the block, and then the fourth
and fifteen on the last hope for South Carolina State's season,
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and you give up seventeen yards to allow them to
extending this thing to the four overtimes that we had. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
I this is just me. I attribute that to lack
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of adjusting from a culture. Staff. Is that being harsh
from your point of view? Sir?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well know, if that's your opinion, there's nothing. No, I
don't think it's harsh. And and that's just that's the way.
That's the way you see it, and a lot of
other people see it that way. That's just that's the
nature of the beasts. That's why we'll call Monday morning quarterbacks,
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because yes, we can see all these things after the
game has taking place, but live while it's happening. While
it's happening, that's when the decisions are being made and
that's when they have to be made.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And yes, that's why I.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Think that's why the guys get them the so called
big bucks to make those decisions.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. And we cannot take away credit
from the consistency and the tenacity of South Carolina State.
The young man Ryan Scubblefield came in and pulled a Houdini,
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you know, just mesmerized the Panthers defense. And another painful truth, coach,
is that there's no doubt that Persu's defense carried them
throughout the season being consistent. But this unit gave up
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forty second half points. That's almost unheard of. That's that's
that's not negotiable, you would think. And although it went
four overtime, they only gave up five points in overtime.
So they gave up thirty five points in the second
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half of a championship game playing quote unquote an equal
cheered opponent. This wasn't an FBS opponent. Man, that's a collapse, coach,
that's a collapse.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yep, they it. I mean, when you when you look
at the individual status, I like cameraon for TV had
four hundred and twelve yards.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Passing, set a record, set a celebration Bowl record.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And just you your guy's double field he was he
on there, had two hundred and thirty four yards uh,
two testdowns at a at an interception. Cameron never threw
it assets and had four touchdowns. But it just it
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just wasn't TV's day.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And and that's sad to say. And there's a terrible
time for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Coach, for that to happen in your coaching career, as
illustrious as it was, can you put yourself or even
remotely come close to experiencing a game like that from
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you sitting on the bench orchestrating, uh, your team up
and down the floor.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
When you coase long enough, this is gonna happen. I
don't care who you are, this this will happen. You
take the great Nick Sabing. He would call off some
games when he was at Alabama that he lost that
he knew he shouldn't have lost. He knew he had
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better talent, he knew that sometimes when momentum gets on
your opponent's side, it's hard to turn the time. It's
hard to turn the time. And that's that's all this PV.
(12:31):
Now here's another thing that I think hurt in the
celebration ball, the long halftime, the long halftime, you had
all the momentum going into halftime, sitting around waiting for it,
all the halftime festivities to get over with it. You
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lost your momentum.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So you think they had too much time to conjure
up a trick played, don't half time.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's the only thing that that That's the only thing
that got me. I'm saying, you didn't have to have
that score twitter one points in the first half. Why
do we need it now? And that's what I was
saying as it happened.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Why Yeah, man, it is rough once again. Once again.
I don't want to be the dead horse. You know,
you come up short and celebration bow. But come Fall
twenty twenty six, the perview Adam University Panthers will be
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defending SWACK champions yep, and that can't be taken away.
But old to finish, to finish, to finish. I'm I'm
gonna get off of this coach because there's two close
to Christmas and I don't I don't want to. I
don't want to have a blue Christmas. You know, I'm
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trying to get this out of my system.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Right, but get too close you and so many other
TV nations. Uh, they're too close to the edge. So
so let's let's walk it back. Let's walk it back.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Okay, okay, thanks for talking me down, coach. I needed that.
Thanks to thanks.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Let's come back.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, that's why you That's why you're the Google, sir,
that's why keeps you know, well, the the the off
season begins with recruiting, transfer portals, n I L deals, readjusting,
and start for the next deal. We got new life, coach,
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and it's called basketball, right right.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You know, you still gotta you still gotta finish this
season out here. This is the strange thing about football
right now. In all sports, now, your season is not
really over. Your season just begins. Begins now because now
that you've played your last game, you've got to re
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recruit the kids who have eligibility to make sure that
they're coming back to your own program. Yes, sir, And
that's that's the big thing. That portal, that poor portal
has created a disaster for some programs.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, and that's the that's another harsh reality people would
take for granted, oh Man, coach Jackson was able to
accomplish this in year one, then it's gonna be easy
peasy for him on from here on up. That's not
necessarily the case. You have the perfect storm with everything
that was aligned the way it was, and to get
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that close, and like I said, Coach, I honestly would
have preferred just to get blown out than to lose
the way we lost.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, you got some coaches like that. They rather be
blown out than to lose a close game. They got.
I mean, that's one of my best friends in basketball.
That's the way he was. He says, Man, you I
rather you to blow me out, don't beat me by
no one.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I know that's right. Yeah, I know that's right. But
you know, like I said, we congratulations Coach Jackson and
PV nation go back that it did report attendance coach
twenty six thousand, seven hundred and three in attendance. Not
the most. I don't think it was the worst when
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it was low as far as expectation goals. But when
you attribute the short turnaround notice for TV fans coming
from Jackson being going to Atlanta, that's eight hundred plus
miles from the PV area to Atlanta alone, and then
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everything with the economics, the way it is. It just
is what it is, and we knew this was a
fact that the Swack champion has the short turnaround and
the only way they can eventually get out of that
predicament is that you change championship partners. But ESPN controls
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that native and we don't see that changing no time soon.
So that's just part of the caveat of becoming a
Swack champion. I gotta move on, Coach check, I got.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
We do have basketball look forward to.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, on both the man and women's side, we've had
some non conference wins and I think we're gonna be
in for a big treat when it comes to basketball.
Talking about southerns men and women have had some h
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some some great wins. Uh. And even even your Panthers
they've had some good war I think coach Smith is
gonna have has one of his better teams. Uh. He's
already won four non conference games. Southern men have won
four non conference games. Grambling and and Bethol Cookman they
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all have uh one game. In fact, every team in
the Swack has at least one win, with the exception
of Florida and them.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Florida.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Something has not taste victory on the men or the
women's side.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And that's a little rare material for family. But everything
is rare air for fam these days with with athletics
who has been u kind of discombobulated of recent The
Panthers will on the men's side, they'll be taking on
Paul Quinn this this Saturday. When you play the face
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of Paul Quinn, you really want to execute get your
guys reps rotation. You're still defining what your rotation would be.
Who's going to be your six seven man coming off
of it? Are these games? August? All games are worth it.
But for lack of me being better descriptive, what's the
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value of playing a game of that magnitude? Coach uh?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Mental stability for your players? I mean you you being
pounded with the game guarantees your kids need to see
some type success. And that's probably the reason why coach
Smith has them schedule. That's just like the game last
night Alabama and M defeated North Alabama. But that's another
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A son school conference school that A and M B
at home. So coaches have different philosophy. Now, don't get
me wrong. Now, when I coached I believe in number
one playing trying to get as many home games as
I could, and I would play down at least one,
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if not two games a year. But I said play down,
I either played Division two or a strong Innai opponent.
And I did it number one. If it's Division two,
it was a relationship game. You know, I had friends
and coaching when we were Division two. That's still like
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coming to Huntsville. And then I did it for attendance.
I did it to make money. You know, I've told
you on several occasions that if I brought in Tuskegee
or Miles, that that's a sellout for our fan base.
And so you have different reasons for playing these type games,
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and a lot of it has to do with letting
your players experience a win before you get into conference play.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Okay, So I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Not against that. I think it's I think it's okay
because really, when you look at it, that's what we're doing.
What we're playing the Power Forwards, they're playing down, right, Yeah,
they're playing down. So all we do we doing the
same thing, and in some cases we're helping any other
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HBCU schools. So from that aspect, I believe in it.
I believe in it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Now. I know the pay the paydays or like night
and day literally, but three five thousand dollars can go
a long way on a Division two or NAIA program.
And the vocal that we know is not as much
overhead of running a basketball operation as in comparison to football,
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just on the numbers alone, but introduce us coach to
the world of basketball. How far can three five thousand
dollars go on on a smaller program?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But it goes a long way. And then in fact, nowadays,
I think they're paying more than that. You know, these
schools are getting five five to six thousand dollars to
UH to bring these people in, and that's a lot
of money for some of those school budgets, and they
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look forward to those games. And a lot of times
when you play at school like that, they don't have
to spend anything from that that game guarantee that they'll
get it. Because in my case, I gave up room.
I gave rooms and food I provided and the rooms
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so that they could clear their money. And that's why
I had people calling me for games, you know, so
I didn't have to reach out. It was never difficult
for me to come up with a home schedule.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, wouldn't it also be a perfect storm if he
had this where I would call a turnaround trip where
a team could come that same day, play the game,
get their money, give them to go but meal, and
they gone back to their campus that same day.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, you take miles miles and Burningham them is only
like an hour and thirty minutes from from our campers.
They could do that, and then most of the time
they did do that. You take Stillman, Stillman is an
hour forty five minutes for myur came. They would they
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have done that before. Now Tuskige Tuskigie is a little
three hours seven years. They would come up to day
of the game. Other years they come to night before.
So you're right, okay, And this is how they can
maximize their money.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Okay, okay. Now when when when it's something like that
is set up, you're giving them that money, but you're
not actually paying for their bush. If they charte a
bus or anything like that. They got to get there
the best way they can, right.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right right, Most of those places already had the university
have their own transportation, but they have buses.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, okay, very good, very good. Now now we talked
about the men's side of things. Women still striking the iron,
as the iron is heating up as we get ready.
This is almost like a twilight zone of basketball because
you're about to have semester in in most cases, if
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it hadn't already happened, graduation has happened. So this is
kind of like that no man's land right now. What
were some of the things that you would do to
ensure that your team stays consistent and that everything is
going to be firing off when the season starts back
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up at the new semester.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, this is where this is where your schedule comes
into play. You don't want to give the kids a
long break because then it'd be like starting all over again,
and you don't have enough time before that first conference game.
So I would be trying to schedule a game as
late as the twenty or twenty first, keep the kids together,
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and then I would try to schedule one game before
that first conference game and bringing them back in other words,
as long as they would be at home, would be
four to five days for Christmas break. Then that way
you're not starting from scratch, because when you off from
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a week or more, you're starting over, and then you
have a you have a you have more of a
chance of having injuries and stuff when you give them that,
when they have that long break. And in case in points,
our men played last night, our women have played tomorrow night.
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The men are play again. And then I think coach
has one more game. Yeah, he has a game on Sunday.
So that means that he's still playing the way he scheduled,
the way I would have scheduled. Keep the kids around,
keep them together. Then you doing things now. This is
when This is when Thanksgiving break, Christmas break. This is
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when your team has to make sure that you're bonding.
After you played all these away games. You bond as
a group because.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's just you all.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's just you and your team. Now that we're at home,
it's not just always practice practice practice. Yeah, you get
practice in there. But now this is when we do
things as a team. This is when we go place.
Let's go to the movies, let's go both it. Let's
let's do some other stuff other than basketball. There. We
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don't have to worry about classes now, so let's bond,
Let's find out about each other's let's do our theory
is womanly, Our women's coach. She had one of the
greatest ideas ever and it worked perfect. She just had
a cookoff. She wanted to see how many of the
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ladies could could could really bag them pots and pans, okay,
and as a team. So this is when team bonding
is at its utmost. But it's just you all and
if your own campus, it's just you all on campus.
But nowadays everybody's off campus in apartments and stuff like that.
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But this is when you got to try to get
your team to ensure that you all have bonded together.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yes, sir, now, coach, I as you were talking and
you was talking about giving that four to five days
off for that Christmas break, and I'm pretty sure you
got a story of two that you could come up
with that. There may have been a guy that went
for the home visit and he didn't realize how homesick
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he was till it was hard for him to come back.
And some of them didn't come back, and you'd be like, wait, ant,
what do you mean? You know, have you ever come
across anything like that, coach?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And to be honest, my first team, my first team
as the head coach, my leading scoring rebounder, went home
for Christmas and did not come back. But he had
a reason. He had a reason, He had another responsibility.
He had become a father, and he felt like it
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was more important for him to be a dad than
for him to come back and play basketball. And I
understood that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I mean, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I talked to him and and everything, and I wished
him well and I agreed with his decision. But yeah,
that my first team, my first team as a head.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Coach, because that's one of your son. I appreciate your
morale and your uprightness, but I beat dog on right now,
do understand? And so does it make you almost apprehensive
overleasing you guys that you know, or you start making
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special plans to keep it. It's no place like home,
you know that's gonna always be true. But where you
just keep where you see it's that family. It's that
bonding time where you might say, hey, okay, guys, instead
of you all going back across state lines, we're going
to meet up with some of the coaches houses or
some boosters. Well, even though technically that should not have
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been happening. But you know, you don't have to answer
that question, don't answer that question, coach might incriminate yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
No, no, no, no, it's fair. It's fair because you
have some kids that live so far they do not
want to write home. And so yeah, we have helped.
We have made arrangements for kids. I've gotten with the
administration and made arrangement for kids that could not go home.
And then, just like you said, either I was that
coaches were involved when if you got a kid that
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cannot go home, that put it like this, No kids
ever ever was around here and didn't have Christmas dinner,
and it may have been at somebody's house. But we
took care of the athletes when that happened, and that's
still happened. Now. There will be times where you got
kids from international kids, you got kids that live far
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away that don't want to take that chance. And then
here's the other thing that they had to deal with.
I would give them all their options. Okay, but here's
my practice. My practice is gonna be and it's always
been the same. We will practice. We will practice at
one o'clock on the twenty seventh, at one o'clock. Now,
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if you don't feel like you can go, if you
think that you live in a place where you might
get snowed in. That might not be the best place
for you, because on the twenty seventh, at one o'clock,
we're gonna blow that whistle and if you're not here,
you're gonna get left behind. And so had some kids
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that didn't want to take that chance. They did not
want the chance. And then you got to think about
when I first started coaching. Now, kids didn't have a
lot of money. Some of them could not afford to
go home, and the intu way was not allowing you
back then to help those kids get home, right, So
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so you had you had all that, and then my
biggest fear, believe it or not, had nothing to do
with them traveling. My biggest fear was when they got
there all right. As a basketball player, when you go home,
you're gonna find a gym to go in. Now the
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yell in that gym. You got guys that think that
they're supposed to be where you are, So what they're
gonna do. They played hard, and some of them jealous,
and you look for injuries because they go after the
college kid because he's home, and you have to be
you have to be conscious of that. And we talked
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to the kids about that. Hey, there's somebody in your
neighborhood that wants to be a hero. They want to
be able to show everybody that they should be where
you are. So you got to take that into consideration
when you go and play these pickup games.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
No doubt, no doubt. You know that's that that that
because that ego can be a monster. Yep, you know
on both sides of the coin, you know, because you
did escape. If you allow me to use that rhym
and you come back, you're like, hey, I'm still the man,
you know, you know, and so everybody say, in order
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to beat the man, you gotta beat the man. So
you know that that testostrong can be very very serious.
And you know you talked about when my time at
Purview been from Saint LOUI I dare not try to
go back for Thanksgiving, Christmas or even summertime because I
knew the economical potential challenges that would lie here. Man,
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I get here and be like the roach motel, I
can't get out, you know. So you weather the storms
and you make the adjustments. But Coach, it's always great, man.
That's why I love hanging around you, man, because so
you bring out stuff that people get nugs. Oh, I
didn't even know that part was even part of the
factor to go in And you have taught me off
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my legs today to the coach U my celebration Bowl debacle.
We're gonna close this segment out. You got any closing
thoughts of segments or segments or any closing thoughts of comments.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well, yeah, I do have a comment. I will once again.
I want to congratulate you and TV Nation for your
swack championship. And this is just the beginning of the
next run. So you just take this as them starting
now to revenge what happened this year, and so you
(35:10):
take that and then at the same time, I want
to encourage you to continue doing what you're doing, supporting HBCUs,
supporting pvs, getting the word out and we really need this,
and I want to encourage you to stay on your assignment. Sir.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, sir, I'm going to do all I can while
I can. We appreciate you so much and your kind words.
Hopefully by the time next week, God'll say the same.
In the creek, don't rise. I have a full recovery
and we can we can talk some hardwood and even
if we dare talk about some old college football that remain,
because that's some other stories we can pick up on.
(35:49):
But right now I had to drown my sorrow rooms
and some black coffee and talking in the locker room. Coach,
once again, thank you for everything, sir, he is the guru.
Coach Van Penalway. I am the radio guy, Doctor Mike Prince,
reminding you guys that you can follow me on Twitter
x at the Mike Prince Show, subscribe to the YouTube
(36:10):
channel at the open Mic Broadcast Network, and until the
next time you guys, be blessed and we'll see you
on the other side.
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