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September 7, 2024 • 47 mins
Daryl and Nick of Lost to Light talk about personal struggles and the long road leading up to Lost to Light, as well as the band's national success and ambitions for the upcoming year
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up? Guys. Welcome back to another episode of
the Misfit Minutes podcast. I'm your host, of course, Jade.
If you're around here, welcome. If you're not around here,
welcome back to the chaos. So for today's episode, I
have not one, but two very special guests with me.
I have Darryl and Nick from Lost the Life. Welcome guys. Yea, well,

(00:25):
thanks for being here, guys. I'm glad we got to
get this.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Get this done absolutely, man, it's a pleasure to be well.
We always have to talk to people and share our message,
you know.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Nice read it around as much as we can.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
For sure. I've I've interviewed I would say, like I
think two or three maybe other UK bands, which is
really neat. I've interviewed the band from Australia before, which
was really cool. I cannot remember where Cable is from
for the life of me, but somewhere kind of in

(01:04):
that realm. So it's always nice to talk to folks
from different areas of the world because I think I
almost feel like this scene is different everywhere you go,
but it's also very similar, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, I feel as well. I feel like some bands
from here like that we love as big over there
and some bends over there on as big over.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Here that you guys seem to like it just.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Crossover trying to try to cross those oceans with the
sound man, like you mentioned Australia. Like there's such a
good light scene of bands that we see in the
UK from Australia, the big ones being like Parkway Drive
and Diet as well and whatnot.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
But then you've got bands like.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Like Grave Mind and it's like that that slowly coming
up through the rights, but that this whole scene of
black slap up black normally again another fucking mega fucking
from Australia.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
You hear about it from Australia. That's why they're so good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I think there's loads of incredible bounds in the UK
that are completely missed by the US just just because
of not not getting getting that air late, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I I often have to like look like
if I am looking for bands from a specific area,
I might just look up bands from Britain or bands
from you know, wherever.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Just to see kind of like and see how things compare.
I know, for me just as a listener, there's like
tiny little inflections that I find within UK core, which
I really like. It kind of adds like a little
extra spice on top, which it is really cool.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's good to hear. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
When when you're being a creative person, obviously you take
a lot of inspiration from your surrounding and your day
to day life and stuff. So I guess it's it's
probably that in itself, and that's why it's that spice,
as you say, because it's it's something exotic as it were,
because it's it's not what, it's not what you're expert

(03:37):
exotic fucking Britain.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
It's not so much. But yeah, exactly. Man.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like I remember growing up and like listening to like
US bands, and there was this whole scene of bands
like Texas, like the Dallas Fort Worth area, and like
again it's like every time I checked where it's like
new band that I found that I'm really into. They
were all from like the same like area going pretty much,

(04:05):
and it's it's clearly something in their.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Surrounded that was given that sound to what they were writing.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I think that happened to me like a year ago,
and it was all bands from Florida for some reason,
Like I don't know what it was. I don't know
what was in the water, but the Florida bands really
I don't know what was going on.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
But I think as well as like when when you've
got like obviously these bands like in Florida, for example,
they would have been on the same Black Tour circuits
with each other, like probably know each other's bands, and
you sort of vibe off each other as well. So
I think that adds an element to it when when you're.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
You've got that that surrounding scene, you'll sort of build
the scene of your sound together live, not not just
as a soul man. Yeah, Boston hardcore Boston hardcore to
New York Harcourt, they're two very different fucking games, but
you know, one sound forbid of it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, there's definitely some differences there.
I know, for me, when I was first getting into hardcore,
it was like like hearing the differences, I was like,
oh wow, am I imagining this? Is this for real?
And just like just the attitudes or just how people
carry themselves. Like I forget the name of the documentary,

(05:24):
but there's a documentary about like like the hardcore scene,
and there's like a bunch of different bands and it
was from like the nineties or eighties, I believe if
I remember correctly. It's a really cool documentary. I think
it's on YouTube, but just here and even within the
area that they were in, I'm pretty sure it was
New York. Just hearing like how differently the vocalists sounded

(05:47):
like when they talked to people, Just hearing like just
how they described things or just how they you know,
talked about like well, this is how we write our
songs and this is how we do this, and just
comparing how things were was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, definitely, like I was like massively into but like
Boston hardcore.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Was more my my, my side of it.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Like and again, as I said, there's different vibes to it,
so like Boston, how it's like more passion driven, whereas
I feel like New York hardcore had the more like
aggressive sound like it's yeah, it's it's it's a wild
how surroundings can affect the music that comes from the area.
Like I guess that's that's what you're getting at, is that, Yeah,

(06:36):
where we're in UK bands and where we live in
a rainy country that's pretty fucking gray.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
That's the only way I can describe it.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think that that that's what we we're trying to
push out.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's like we want more than just a great surrounding.
So here's some music.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean, that's fair. I am a huge kind of
book nerd, and Batman is my favorite comic book character,
so I can kind of I kind of get it,
like where people say, you know, Gotham is always pretty
much characteristically dark, gloomy, dangerous place to go, but if
you look hard enough, there are some really great things

(07:17):
about it that are really pretty. You just got to
look forward. And also, I mean, hello, Batman.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
I'm I'm a Marvel. You've got my back up. Now,
that's a good.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Any any comic book fine is a good person in
my mind, but Marvel.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
All right, Well this is the end of the interview piece. Okay,
really quick before we get into some more music stuff. Though,
what did you think of that Pool Wolverine? Have you seen?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, I've not actually seen it yet, then, Diet.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, it was really good. It was worth it. The
fan service was great. C G I looked cool. There
was like a couple of spots where it was like
I think they may have done it on purpose, honestly,
like to make fun of, you know, some of the
stuff going on at Marvel. But overall it was really funny.

(08:27):
If you're a comic book nerd, which obviously you said
you were, there's a lot of like homage to the
some of the covers, like comic book covers. Like once
you see those scenes, you're like, oh, I remember.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
That, That's what I did.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I kept elbowing my husband, like, oh my god, that
was in that cos He's just like, yeah, the thing,
that's the movie.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
But I've got your old daughter and it's them on holidays, say,
finding time to go watch R rated movie whilst looking
after a six year old is there.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
It's fair a bit of a struggle alongside being about
wild life and everything else, but it's it's definitely happy
that you're worry about it.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
You'll have to let me know what you think. One So,
speaking back or getting circling back into the music and whatnot.
I noticed I was looking up you guys, just profile
and everything, and I saw that you, like pretty much
every member of the band has been in like different

(09:38):
projects before this. Yeah, just out of curiosity, how would
you compare some of your older projects to what you
guys are doing now.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I think straight away is like we're just doing what
we like now instead of like trying.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
To be I have feel like when you're young, just
trying trying to be like the band that you like more.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
M Yeah, at that time, we was like proper into
like Rise Records bands, like in an old band, So
this kind of ended up sounding like that.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
But now we're just like, you know right how we want?

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So when me and Darryl first started working together, that
was like Jesus Christ like fifteen years ago, that like
fourteen fifteen years ago, and that was a like tech
metal band, well like nearly like technical death metal bands,
and like we're massively into bands like like Black and

(10:38):
Silosis and like the other guitars like a mega Dream
Theater fan. So it's just like we're like trying to
sound like these bands, you know what I mean, It's
like what would Dream Theater do? What would like this
band after the Burial do? What after the Barrel?

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Like literally, So that that was the whole thing. And
then the last band that I was in with Daryl
and stuff was The Goo, which, as I said, was
was more like the Rise Records Fearless Records sort of
sounding bands.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Was sort of just it's almost like.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Geared our music towards it, whereas with this band, we've
all come from these different bands and choices like I
love progressive death metal, Darryl's like more into like your
one modern metacor and like fans like spirit Box, and
then you've got Gorman, the other guitarists is into like
at the Gates and m And instead of us all

(11:35):
being like, let's let's try and sound like this, it's
like I want to write this.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
I've written a riff.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It sounds like this, what can you guys do to it?
Or I've got a section like I'm all about like
massive fucking pruggy sections, So I'll try and just have
like a fucking any sort of epilogue of sound that
I could get in there, like vocally or like being

(12:02):
like Daryl will be like I'm not sure what refs
should go after this, and like what about this is
just trying to build that sound to what we actually
want for ourselves rather than what other people want to
hear or what we think we should sound like.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I guess yes, it's.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Very much trying to become ourselves right and put ourselves
out there as ourselves.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I would say for most bands, it's probably probably a
big challenge to like you said, kind of found find
your own sound and sound like yourself, and it probably
I would assume it takes time to figure it out because,
like you know, like you said, when you're coming up,
you're kind of looked up to, you know, certain bands
and us like, I almost feel like there's like this

(12:52):
media pressure from like you know, outside sources, whether it
be magazines, TV. Now we have you know, TikTok, like
you know of bands that sound similar and that are
getting you know, all the clicks and all the views
and whatever. So there's that oh, well, should we just

(13:14):
do the exact same thing so that we can get
those clicks and views too, or do we do something
different and be innovative and you know see what people think?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah that yeah, that culture?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh you sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
And I feel like we can just say which is
trying to not keep every song sounding the same as well,
just like if a song.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Sounds different, we'll just roll with it kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Let's it, we don't have pitching ourselves and just be
like we're a medical bouncer. Therefore it's got to sound
like this, Like if we write, if we write a
song that sounds like a fucking pop song, right, so
we all think it's good, Well, we'll play that song.
If we write a song it sounds like black metal, like,
we'll play that song. Like it really doesn't matter, just

(14:00):
trying to write songs that we feel good about.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
If people like them, excellent, If they don't, we don't care.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
We've had a good time writing it and we have
a good time playing it, and that's that's pretty much it.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll make to make more because
we just it's just fun.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Same.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it's it's an interesting dynamic when you think about
like bands like who make pretty much all of their
albums or all of their songs kind of sound similar.
I think probably my favorite band that's gotten Away with It.
It's definitely breaking Benjamin, because if you think about it,
like almost all of their songs kind of sound the same.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
But they are.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Songs, so it's okay.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, definitely, But I definitely.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Love when bands also to take it in a completely
different direction. The biggest example of course being Bring Me
the Horizon. Yeah, they're the kings of Hey. Sounded like this, Hey,
guess what we're going to do this now? Ha ha,
And you're like what.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
What but again and it all slaps right. Yeah, they'll
they'll get they'll always get grief. Every time they dropped
you out with five, people are like, oh.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
It doesn't sound like this, but give it a little
while and let people get used to the songs. They
love it, like you cannot deny the talent on Railback.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
People gave Spirit Box a lot of grief too when
they put out some of the more recent stuff. And
I will admit I was part of the group that
it kind of took me a little bit to get
used to the sound. So it didn't sound like Circle
with me, it didn't sound like Yellow Jacket. But then
you listen to the you know, the newer stuff, and
you give it a shot and you're like, oh, all right,

(15:45):
this actually isn't isn't bad at all. This is actually
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's not it's not what you thought was coming, but
the songs are still good.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
The Undeniable.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sure, So I also read I read up a little
bit on I noticed that you guys had mentioned a
little bit about like some like some life struggles and
things of that nature. And so I was curious if
you're you know, if you're willing to answer this kind
of how you use that in your music and kind

(16:19):
of how you allocated that into you know, doing something
positive and creating something versus just being just sitting in
that space of uh, this kind of sucks.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
So the band kind of was born from that in
a way. So our old band like died as a
result of like we're been to America like played stuff.
I say, what like living our best lives been off

(16:52):
of this tour.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
It's like a.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Nearly four week tour across the whole of the States
with like jumps to the apparatus and.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Heights.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, and it was like this this mega thing, Like
it was like huge, and literally days before we.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Were meant to go, our visits got.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Declined and we couldn't do it, and like we all
wanted to like keep the band going, but we all
just got mega depressed. Like the band fell apart. Daryl
sold all of his fucking guitar here, like all of it,
all of it. I was just like, fuck music, I'm
never doing this again for real, man about it? Like

(17:40):
fun this ship and we alt like went meggie as fucked.
And then during lockdown, Darryl bought guitar and like sent
me a picture of like this guitarist squat oh oh, and.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Then he starts sending me riffs.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's like, oh, I like so so from from this
fucking horrendous time that we all just break apart, Like
so it's like got the vibe for playing music again
and send the riffs about and like that that's how
it came back.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
So I think for us to not put things like that.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Into our music would be stupid because that's that's literally
the basis would come from. But obviously everyone has their
own fucking personal struggles. Like I've attempts on my life
in my past, which I'm not freak proud of, but
I'll speak about it to try and hopefully stop people

(18:39):
from making the stupid mistakes that I was trying to
make myself, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
And it's it's about that. It's like.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You do something, or you go through something, you come
out the other side, and it's trying to help people
understand that they're not a and the ship that they're
going through. Other people have suffered it to you don't
do what I did, like be better. You can be better.
You can come out the other side. Everything's going to

(19:10):
be good. And that's that's kind of like the whole
premise of up the lyrics in a way for our
band is yeah, times are tough, but you've got friends,
You've got people.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, thank you first of all for sharing that. I
appreciate you, you know, being open about that, because there
are some folks I don't feel comfortable talking about. So
I appreciate you sharing that and very quickly listeners, real talk.
If you need help, please go talk to someone. Reach
out to someone. Call the suicide hotline. The number is

(19:50):
a lot shorter than it used to be. You know,
look up resources, talk to somebody. You're not alone. We
love you. You reach out if you need somebody.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Absolutely, man, Well we all have the bad times, but
together we can get for it.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
See the next day a man.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeahs beautiful to fucking be there for it.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Well, I mean, we have the best of years this
year so far, but now we're back on it.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I was. I know, obviously everyone kind of had
a crap time during shutdown. And I know, Darryl, you
said you you know, you got a guitar during that Yeah,
during that whole thing. What was it like kind of
picking it up after you know, the whole ordeal with

(20:44):
you know, not getting to go on the tour and
everything after you know, presumably quitting and then wanting to
come back into it. Was there like a really great
feeling or was it just like we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
No, it was good.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
It was it was a good time because it was
just it just started blowing out again. Like I mean,
I didn't really listen to that many bands during the
time when I wasn't writing or playing guitar, and then
I just checked out what was new. I was like, well,
this sounds really cool and it's just let's start writing something.

(21:20):
The songs came. The songs came fast as they.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah, man, rapid.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Guess what.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, well we've got five songs out, but fucking out,
we've got like an album and a half with like
we've got the next CP which is ready to There's
just there's just tracks of fun tracks of bund tracks.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Man, Like it just keeps fucking firing about.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, nothing wrong with having extra material. I mean,
didn't parents have like a whole vault of stuff that
just never got Really.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You mentioned to bring me earlier. I'm pretty sure they
were always like out ahead of themselves. I'm pretty sure
the next album they release is already done, if you
know what I mean. They'll be working on the one
after the next one now, crazy of stuff, Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I would feel like I would get stuff mixed up,
or i would like it would be very disorganized and
I'd be like that wasn't supposed to go on this
album or move this rift over here. No, we're not
doing that.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Like Steph's got a job to keep us organize.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Spreadsheets for days.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
It loves a spreadsheet.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, I guess that's a good thing, being organized
and genuinely like it keeps us all in life, it'd.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Be chaos, yeah, yeah, like so many songs and riffs
floating around that someone has to kind of organize it.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Remember that one riff in the group chat I sent like.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
A week ago, or like I'll send a riff and
someone will be like, I do this after and send
it a voice note like the most ridiculous thing you've
ever heard.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
You.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Yeah, so she needs to like do this on the
fore count I'll just explain it how it makes sense
in my head of what I'm trying to explain to
Like on the fore count, He's like, that's not the
fore count to him because it will be like the
eight count or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
So I was like, but like whatever, like whatever, it is,
that excellent, cheers, cheers for that. I'll do my best
to interpret it and it to real music. Yeah, he does,
but he does.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I mean, at.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Least something good came out of that that rough time
that we all went through. I was working during that time.
It feels like so long ago, but it really wasn't
like it does feel like a long ago. I worked
at a hospital during that time, so it was yeah, yeah,
it was rough, but I mean it at the time,

(24:17):
I didn't think much of it because I was just like,
it didn't really feel like I was doing anything super special.
I was just going to work every day. But then,
like you know, there were a lot of people who
couldn't go to work. Like I remember driving through town
to go to work and it was just like silent,
like it felt like something out of a movie.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
And yeah, it was like going to the shop, like
my weekly shop. It was just like ghost.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
No one walked, no one walking or anything. And I
was like, oh, this.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Is surreal, Like.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Were they particularly strict around your area about like when
you could go out and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
A little bit you could go for like a walk
like every day, but you know, around your area. But
that was about that was about all and go to
the shop, right, I think I can't remember that exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
That literally is is pretty much just stay in your
house unless you have to go for a walk, which
is go for what they get back in ours on
that walk.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Don't talk to or see anyone.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
And it was like you can see someone, but stay
fucking well away from them.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
It's like right.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Across the road, like, yeahs odd times I'm not gonna
lie go for a chown. I don't enjoy.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
It not not having to see people all the time.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Fair, that's fair. I feel like it jump started a
lot of people's creativity. Like a lot of people that
weren't doing music started writing again. Some there were a
lot of folks that had like thought about starting a
band and then you know, COVID happened and then they
were like, well now we have extra times and you know,

(26:14):
do stuff over zoom and like get ourselves together, and
then when things opened back up, all these bands were had,
you know, a full set and were ready to go
play shows. And I was like, oh, geez bands, Yeah,
I felt I felt like hundreds of new bands just
got created overnight. There was a there was a spand

(26:35):
where it felt like every band I interviewed was like, oh, yeah,
we started doing COVID and we've we're only like a
year and some change old. And I was like, what,
But not to say that's a bad thing at all,
because I'm not glad.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Absolutely, I've seen that a lot as well, even the
local the slade, that there was a local that just
appeared out of nowhere, like they sound like after the Burial,
We're all like massive, after the barrel fans. It's like
just stumbled across the spane. It's like, oh, these guys
are sick. Where they're from.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
It's like Derby, Like Derby where from.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's not it's not a big city, like it's quite
a small city. Like everyone in the industry knows each
other here, Like.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Where where there these guys problem?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
It was exactly that they just died Bright and Reds
during lock down became a band and they're incredible, like
absolutely like sensational bad but just out out of there
like yeah weird.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I know. I went to a big festival, I guess
like during the end I think of COVID and they
still wanted this like weird like mass stuff at the
at the festival, which I think I just wore a
bandana also was dusty anyway, for that helped. But when
I went, I just remember being like, well, it's really

(27:59):
nice to actually be here and be around you know,
people again and go go to a concert, which kind
of propelled me into wanting to do what I do now.
This is now that I think about it, this is
year three. Yeah, this is year three of doing this
and yeah, yeah it's it's really dope. But that kind

(28:23):
of like pushed me to go look for you know,
smaller bands, and I ended up going to a show
about an hour away from me and had a great time,
and just years later, here I am doing this.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Wicked.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I think the weirdest about the whole lockdown thing was
going to your venue when it was like you had
bands play.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, so my my day to day job, I've brought
a flaber classic music and when we've first like reopened
after that it was like everyone had to be seated.
It was like tables and six because you have to
have like your own bubble and all that nonsense. And yeah,

(29:10):
like going to watch like a metal shape, like no
one's love to stand up or like mush or anything
like that. So it's got like this fucking metal band
like giving it fucking welly and then just like just
tables and people like, yeah, the honest thing, man, Like
it's so's weird. But it was amazing because, as you say,

(29:31):
like everyone sort of had that appreciation for what they've
missed out on by as a venue. Are when we
especially when we reopened back to like standing and everyone
can actually just come in and do as they please.
Like the numbers for people coming to live shows just

(29:51):
went up, and it was like people suddenly realized, like
hang on a minute, that these, like the creative things,
the arts is really important live.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
You can play games at home. When you're at home,
you can still like spend time with your mate, still
drink with your friends, whatever, but actually going to watch
a live band that was something that you absolutely could
not do during that time.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely made a lot of people appreciate,
like you said, getting to see live music and also too,
it gave you know, bands time to prepare and maybe
think about like how do we want to do this,
you know, when we do get to go on to
or how do we want to do this? Or how
what is our set going to look like? And do
we have proper equipment? And it gave people kind of

(30:40):
extra time to do all of those things because, as
we all know, being in a band is very expensive
and difficult.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, goddamn never ends, never ends.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I think the biggest the biggest one I see all
the time is bands will post on their book page
or whatever they're like, we're so excited we got a van,
and then like two months later they're like, hey guys,
we hate to make this post, but uh, could you
maybe go to our go fund me because our fan
broke down.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I'm just like, oh, someone stole the baser.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
The bad like stolen instruments. That's like the worst thing ever.
That breaks my heart because like why, like why would
you do that? It's such a journey.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well, I don't think any of us have had that
experience yet, so touch wood, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I hope that that never ever happens to you. Guys,
because that is that is a rough thing to go
through because you're like you have no clue of knowing
where it is or someone's gonna sell it or what.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, the worst that would be.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, I would lose my mind if I was, you know,
an actual musician. But I can't save my life. I
have two guitars. I just suck. My husband brought me
an electric practice Christmas practice practice, and I just I'm
so excited this and then like my little amp kind

(32:14):
of like started buzzing and I was like, oh, that
doesn't sound good. I started messing with the settings and
now it all sounds terrible, and I was like, I'm
gonna have to get somebody to look at this. This
does not sound good. I'll get there eventually.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
You've got the tools.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's it, man, it's just taking a bit of time.
Practice always. Like I cannot express that enough to any musician, vocalist,
whatever it is that you do, practice practice practice. The
only way you will improve and get better is free practice.
And it is grueling and sometimes it's disheartening. If you're

(32:50):
not getting the results that you want straight away, you're
not going to get those results straight away.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
But just keep at it, definitely.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I will take you up on that at some point.
Do so in terms of kind of segling back into you,
back to you guys, in terms of the writing process,
what is kind of like, whether you're writing on your
own or as a group or maybe with one or
two of you together, what is kind of your favorite

(33:22):
part of the process.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Probably like when we come together when there's a load.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Of ideas for a song and then we actually start
putting some together, because then we're like, oh my god,
that sounds so good now or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I think for me, it's when we first like
jams something live properly, because as I says, there's a
lot of ideas back and forth that a lot of
it will be like written and sort of tracks on
my dw's before we actually to play it live together.

(34:01):
And the first time that you actually like the songs written,
like we've we've got the basis for it, let's start
jamming it live. Like I've skeped like if a song's
good as well, I've skept like such a lift of it.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's like, yes, like this sounds better than I thought
it was, Like already, that's that's it for me.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Nice, Yeah, I think when a bunch of groups, when
a group of people come together to create something, it's
always really special. And I always like hearing like kind
of how bands do that, just because everyone is just
a tiny bit different. Some people write their lyrics for
some people write rips first. It just depends on, you know,

(34:48):
the body of art that's being created at that moment
in time. And I always found it really neat how
bands do that.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
M House is not always the same either, Like if
you the songs ash of a vocalist wrote almost on
his own and brought it to the table, and then
other ones I wrote and then giving them like the
whole song instrumentally, and then these guys write lyrics on it,
or some of them are just all together.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It depends, Yeah, I like like sometimes so like lyrically
as well, Like I might have an idea of something
like jot down lines like some look up to me,
it's like dry it down. But then when I get
the song, I've got a very weird way of writing
writing lyrics. So I'll listen to a song and then

(35:41):
I'll like bet out syllables of like syllable placement, and
then like and then it will come to like the chorus,
and I'll write the chorus, but I'll write it like lines,
so like it's like the the like along and then
up and left like a slide up. Then I'll do

(36:01):
like a diagonal life. It's just all this, And then
I'll get my ideas that I have and sort of
piece them where I can where I need to add
extra syllables, so I'll be like, well, I'm too syllable
short in this, and like, what words can I change
to have the same effect what I'm trying to say
without changing the meaning of the sentence sort of thing.

(36:25):
Get the phosaurus out.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Go to Google boy, yes, synonyms.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Like whatever, casualty I don't know, but yeah, and just
slap right, this one fits.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Does it actually make sense? Yeah? So that goes in.
And yes, it's a whole weird process.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I mean that sounds pretty cool to me. Honestly, it's unique.
It's a little chaotic, but it sounds cool.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I do.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
My whole brain is chaotic.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
As someone with ADHD. I get it.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Literally recently diagnosed. Yeah, well one of the same, so.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. I write like poetry and stuff,
so I often have to find myself or I often
find myself pulling out Thesaurus and or pulling up Google
like synonym for you know, whatever word I'm planning on
using at that moment. And it's really funny, like if

(37:29):
you look up like the definitions or other synonyms for
words and then they come up with something and it
like that does not sound at all like I was
going for, Yeah, I don't like that word going.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
The word and then you start thinking it was like
am I am I the wrong word in? Or you
try and think, you try and think of a different
word for the word you're trying to say, to get
all the synonyms for that word even though you trying
to still find synonyms for this first word.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
And it becomes the whole thing, absolute chaos.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Am I ever going to finish this?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
I mean it became a whole thing where we decided
it was going to name all the songs of one
word as well.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, that did become a massive problem. Yeah, try to
find a single word that word casula song.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Some of them were hard.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
What what made you want to do that?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I think it was like the first like three or
four just naturally ended up being one word titles and
then was like we should.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Just go with this.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh and then, like a few of them, it was
really hard to find a word that.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Represent the whole song.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, we managed it. Maybe we shouldn't do that next time.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, well, it's go for a really elaborate song names
that have nothing.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
To do with the song.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh man, take me back to the era of when
metalcore songs were a full paragraph.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yep, that's the best time.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, Like, wait, what what happens? I tell you
the whole point of the song in the in the title,
and you're like, oh, interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I like it when the song name has absolutely zero
relevant to the song, right that that makes it even better.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Pause. Have you guys seen the movie Scott Pilgrim Versus
the World? Yes, all right, we're gonna play it. We're
gonna play Launchpad mcquag and he's like, that's not actually
the title of this song. I love that movie. I've
seen them moving way too many times.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Well, it's it's a great movie. I've tried playing. I've
tried playing the.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Video game, and I absolutely fucking suck it. Like I
can't get past the first level. I was absolutely deleted
by the Bostom lap here. I was the class but
clearly not they.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Released a box set of the comics that is, from
what I understand, very expensive, but I'll have to look
up the actual price, but I heard it was expensive
because I think they have them all out in the
in like the little versions, and I think they're slightly
bigger than that. And then they I can't remember if

(40:29):
they're in black, whiter in color. I think the first
comics that they put out were in black and white,
and I think they reverted back to that, which is
really cool.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, I'll to see if I can find them somewhere
once they go on sale. But AnyWho kind of wrapping
things up had one last question, and this is a
fun one. So let's say that the universe just lets
things work the way they're supposed to. If you could
play a show in any country, where would you want

(41:03):
to go? And you can't say the UK? The UK
doesn't count.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
In any country.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Any country I don't know would be the best.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I would kind of like to play in Norway, mainly
so I can go and watch, like watch some fjords,
go and see the Fjords. And also it's like the
home of black Mail, which I am a good a
good fan of. Uh, get to go to like in
the old record store of Black met Sign. That would

(41:45):
be more of my own personal game than the band.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
I think like that.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't think any of the rest of that would
be on that side.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I would like to.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I mean, oh, they also Australia, because I.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Was going it seems like their music seems fucking insane.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, it's a beautiful country, beaches everywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
What Tom from Patient sixty seven, if you're listening to this,
Lost the Light would like to tour with you? Please
make this Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Oh yeah in Australia would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I think that was crazy scene.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
And literally the other side of the planet. Yeah, yeah,
we couldn't go further.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Completely unrelated. You brought up Norway, and I thought about
this TV show that I watched called ragnar Rock and
it's about like like the North Spots and all that stuff,
and it was filmed like in Norway, and the setting
was just pretty like they didn't have to do any
kind of cgi or anything because it was filmed in Norway,
and it looked so freaking cool and the little town

(42:54):
was so stinking cute, and they had the big mountains
and the ice caps not and I was like, I
want to go there.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Literally, I want to go that.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
That's why I said that it'd be awesome.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Well my holiday destination.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'm gonna have to start saving now. Maybe by twenty
thirty I can afford to go.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Hey, it's open, I'll see you that.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'll come to your show. I'll throw it down in
the pit and everything, and then you can go watch
go see the ice caps and see if they're still there.
If they if they all melted by twenty thirty, I
hope not. That would be really sad.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Only time will tell.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Only time. Well, kind of wrapping things up, I know
you guys just played. You guys just played a fast
But the other day I was looking at the the
poster for the poster is a pretty color. What else

(44:00):
you guys have coming down the pipeline that we can
be excited for or should be on the lookout for.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
So our next show is another festival. It's like a
local festival there. It's a it's called hometown festival that's
on the twenty ninth September in Derby at the venue
that I run. Not my show, not my show, like
to play books books for it not just a self judgment.
And then beyond that, we're working on releasing our second

(44:31):
D at the minute, which is it's meant to be
like a the other page of the first DP. Essentially
they work together as a full length. We just thought
it would be more beneficial for us and for new
listeners just getting into our band to be met with
a few songs at a time, rather than being like,

(44:55):
here's ten songs like have away. Well it's like here's five,
here's the other five. It together becomes like a full length.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
It's very well found out.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
And then well, yeah, like literally a little bit more
recording that that's ready to send off, so that that
would be out like the start of next year. And
as stated earlier, with the Endless Fall of Riffs, we're
already working on the full length to follow that, right,

(45:29):
And yeah, just just trying to book books, some decent
shaws hopefully. I would like to think we'll be able
to get to Europe this year. That's what we're looking at,
to make sure all of our passports are in date
and all that business. Yeah, he's sort of mine definitely
isn't run out this year, so yeah, I think we'll

(45:53):
start of Europe. We'd love to get over to the
States as say Me and Darryl and stuff are played
in the States before and it was incredible. We definitely
want to experience against Say.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Well, we'll be pushing for it. Hopefully it won't be
too long.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You just want to want water Burger.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
No, I want in and out, in and out. We
need We need to play the South because I need
in and out. It's cheap but delicious.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
You need to go. First of all, you need to
go to Raisin Canes. If you're going to go to
the South.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Raisin Canes.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yes, it is. It's like chicken fingers, and I really
love raisin canes. The sauce is just phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I'm more of a chicken fan than a burger fan
as well. So this this is a tick in the boxes.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
But you'll have to If you guys make it over
here and you get to go, you got to let
me know how it goes.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Well, we'll we're back at you, guys.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
This has been really fun. It's been great getting to
know you and learning more about your band and learning
about the things that you guys have coming up. I
can't wait to hear the next release. It's going to
be dope. So thank you. Guys again for making time
for sitting down and chit chatting with me.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
No, absolutely, thank you for having us like we really
appreciate it. Befell. We will catch up to seeing absolutely.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Listeners. You know how we get down over here. You
know we always support the homies to make sure you
go and like comments, share, subscribe all that good stuff,
Lost the Light, go to shows when they have them.
By mer twent they have it. You guys know the drill. Gentlemen,
it has been fun. Thank you so much, Thank you Jess.
Guys
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