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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up? Guys. Welcome back to another episode of
the Miss five Minutes podcast. I'm your host, of course, Jade.
If you're around here, welcome. If you're not around here,
welcome back to the Chaos. So for today's episode, I
have not one, not two, not three, but four very
special guests with me. I have Skylar, Mike, Zach and
Jake from a separate piece. Welcome guys, Thank you, thank
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you for having me here, Thank you having thank you
for coming on. I appreciate it. So first things first,
I was y'all weeken.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Not too bad, I can't complain.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Not too bad, just a little bit of work.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I'm just kind of hung out a little bit, went
to the gym and uh, you know the usual.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
A little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Little bit of work on my end, nothing too crazy,
just working.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
I'm in I'm in Louisiana this week visiting families. So
it's only six o'clock from me here.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
That's one of the reasons we decided to do this,
like all in like different accounts, because we weren't going
to be all in the same place at the same
time for this meeting.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
So it's all good. It happens. Well, that's cool. What
part of Louisiana are you in, Zach.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
We're in New Orleans right now, more specifically Metaie. But
I don't know if you know what that is.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I don't. I've never been to New Orleans. I would
like to go one day. My husband has been, but
he went when he's really little, so he doesn't really
like remember a whole whole lot about it. But sounds fun.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, it's pretty amazing people down here, quite the spectacle,
and the food is very good. So we come down
here about once twice a year usually.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I used to live in New Orleans actually temporarily when
I was like five years old.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I can. I can confirm food down there is awesome
and sat of the people.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So there.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is it like the movies where people like show the
movies and are scenes of New Orleans and it's like constantly, Yeah,
people thrown down like twenty four to seven or is
it like take a break?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Nah, they don't.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
They don't take breaks.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh okay, I'm.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Actually after this interview, I'm going out to throw down
on myself.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So oh.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Sounds like.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I'm too old for all that, you got it? But AnyWho,
well that is awesome. Well, I won't hold you long,
so you can go enjoy your evening, but I do
want to know a little bit more about your band
and how you guys got started.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Schuyler, you want to take point on this one, Yeah,
I got it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So funny story.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Jacob and I actually the high school together.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
He's a little bit older than me.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But we went to a we live in a small
town in South Carolina called Clinton, and we went to
Clinton High School. We were in marching band together. Actually
never spoke really in high school, even in marching ban
And we graduated and I stumbled upon Jacob one day
at a Mexican restaurant and asked if he wanted to
start a band with me. I knew he knew how
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to play guitar, but I didn't know about bass. So
I was like, well, you can play bass, you know.
So I kind of signed him up myself, and he
took the initiative and he learned base and now he's
phenomenal at it. But and funny enough, I met Zach
in the midst of all this at a fraternity party
and I was like, I'm trying to start a band, man,
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I said, you.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Look like you listen to scary music.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And uh, he in fact did yeah, and he in
fact did listen to scary music, just as I did.
And so we started getting the ball rolling. And we
did not have a guitarist at the time. And ironically,
some time went by and I received an email from
a guy named Michael Nappi. He had stumbled across some
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music that we had already put out or our Instagram page,
and he said, hey, you know, I know how to
play I don know how to play guitar, and I
want to join you guys band. We was like, well, yeah,
well you know, we'll give you a shot, and he
ended up showing up and he absolutely blew us away
and he's been a part of the brotherhood ever since,
and that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Nice. I like that. I love how you guys were
in Marching Band and just never talk, just didn't interact
with each other until much later, one.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Years later, but it worked out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So yeah, I mean, we're here.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I would I would also like to add when he
asked me at the restaurant if I could play bass,
I was a little tipsy at the time, and I
said that I've never played bass before in my entire life,
so I.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Mean hey, and ended up working out pretty well, at
least I think so.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I will also add I will also add that at
the time I joined, I was only seventeen. At the time,
I was still a minor, and when I saw the
photos of these guys on Instagram, I thought they were
around my age stupidly, so when I went to go
meet them in person and I found out that they
were all like twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, I
was like, off, fuck, they're going to kick me out
of the band for.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But yeah, the old heads. Yeah, but worked out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, that's awesome. That's really funny. Though they're a friend
of mine's van something similar happened and they ended up
with someone who's a lot younger than and the rest
of the band, which is really funny because they're like, oh, he's.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
The baby been there, Michael's Michael's my baby boy.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, that is a great origin story to start off.
My cat is currently clawing the absolute wrap out of
my leg. I apologize, that's okay. I love my cat
so much, but.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There and I believe, I believe the band, the whole
band can speak that they love my cat.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Archie.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
He's cool.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
If you ever don't want him, I will.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Take Himie is a darling.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Dude would divorce me if I gave our cat away.
Miss is his baby. Now you're just sit there and
stare at me like you didn't just claw me. But
you know what, it's okay, It's all good.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Well, back to the music stuff. So you made me
laugh when you mentioned the listening to scary music quote unquote.
What are some of the quote unquote scary music bands
and things that you like or that band or maybe
bands that inspire the music that you guys currently are
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making right now, you.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Go first sec.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
For me, definitely bands like As I Lay, Dying Motionless,
and White of Mice and Men. Those were big ones
for me, especially when I started doing vocals. They were
the ones that I like to emulate to try to
sound like them. Now that I've been doing it for
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a few years, I've kind of found my own sound,
so I just sound like me. But those were definitely
the bands that I've drawn influence and you know, drawn
from their their energy. If you will.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Here, yeah, I would go ahead, Mike.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I would say growing up, one of my biggest influences
was Van Halen. For sure, Eddie van Halen's guitar work
definitely really got me, really got the ball rolling. And
then when I got older, I started listening to a
lot more heavier stuff, you know, like Get the like
all the Metallica and Mega Death and then, uh, now
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at this age, I've gotten in a lot more metalcore and.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Death core and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I'd say, right now my biggest influences. Uh again,
I'd say, as I lay dying and bad Omens are
As Murder and those kinds of bands are probably some
of my biggest influences on guitar, So.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Nights mhm, I would say.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
As for me at heart, I'm a hardcore kid at heart,
So if you hear any of you know, funky or
groovy parts and the songs, that's where a lot of
my influence will come in. I grew up, well, not
really grew up, but a couple of years ago when
I got into music like this and when I started
really liking it. I love any really nineties middle core,
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late nineties early two thousands of medle cores or modern
day you know hardcore like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Pain of Truth and what are some other bands.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I liked some old Parkway Drive we have, we have
some heavy influence from them. Also, I'm a huge Parkway
Drive fan. Yeah, Counterparts and and Boundaries especially, you know,
but that's just uh that those were a lot of
my influences. I love hardcore and I love o G metalcore.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I guess to answer your question, I'm kind of the
odd ball of the group because I didn't grow up
listening to anything like this at all. My main background
was pretty much like country and nineties alternative and grunge music.
And most of the time, honestly, like if I have
an idea to write a song and I'll write it
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on my acoustic guitar and something, and Zach will tell
Mike He's like, hey, this sounds good metal fight it
so so oh yeah, I'm kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Awesome. Well, honestly, I have The funny part is that
for I know, for me, it took me longer to
get into the metal core, the foreign hardcore stuff, because
I started off like with the dad rock, You're Breaking, Vengjamin,
You're Disturbed, all of that kind of stuff. And then
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I went to blur It's Rockfest, otherwise known as the
Festival That Will Not Be because it went so terribly.
But I went and I saw knock Blose and Trivium
and a bunch of other really good bands and was like,
oh my god, this is going to be my whole
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life now.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I had been kind of slowly like on the
edge of the heavier stuff, like I had started listening
to bear Tooth a little bit before I went to
the festival, and then I went there and saw even
more heavier bands and it was like, Okay, yep, this
is going to be my life now so and then
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started listening to a lot of hardcore and now here
I am. So now I kind of listened to a
little bit of everything. I would definitely say stuff like
Spie first Thrown and uh, fans like that definitely have
my heart.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh yeah, I love Spie. I fucking love Thrown.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
They're like one of my new favorite bands right now
that I've been listening to.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I guess you could say that that's what uh you know,
that's what really makes us unique is because we all
come from so many different backgrounds of music that we like,
and once we all get together in a room, we
kind of miss it together and it just, uh, it
makes what we have down in my opinion is it's
pretty great.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I was actually gonna ask kind of how during the
writing process, how you guys kind of incorporate each of
your styles into the music that you make, because you
can kind of hear a little bit of everything, which
is which is nice? I dig it, and honestly, that
seems to be the uh what's the word not trend
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per se, because really a friendly thing, but it seems
to be what most people are going for nowadays. So
how how do you guys go about accomplishing that?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Y'all?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Mind?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
If I go for ours?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
That So from my experience with the band, it can
happen in a few different ways. So sometimes it'll be,
you know, I'll come up with some riffs myself and
make some noises with my my mouth, write some lyrics,
and then I send them to Mike and I'm like,
make this metal. Other times it'll be we literally all
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just show up and we just jam and if we
like it, we record it. And then other times, you know,
either Mike or Jake, since they both play guitar, you know,
they'll just they'll just write a whole song, bring it
to us, and then we'll tweak it. But definitely since
we all have different backgrounds, it's very when we start
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writing because you can hear it a little bit in
the choruses because Jake's written a good bit of the
choruses himself, and then Mike's you know, guitar riffage. You
can definitely hear you know, different metalcore bands and the
bands he mentioned, So that's how it usually goes.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And then mostly and you know, I agree, and and
when we get about three quarters of the way through
the song, I'm like, all right, we got to add
a groove part in here somewhere, you know, something that
to make that to make people want to mash that,
to make people want a two step or maybe hurt
one another in the pit. So that's usually how that goes.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Absolutely. I also noticed after we write a song, we'll
have the same song for about two or three weeks,
and then in week three, Skylar's like, yeah, I got
some new I got some new drum parts, and then
he'll he'll throw in some crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
So it usually takes me a little while to come
up with like new like lead parts for songs and
all that, because I wasn't really familiar with lead guitar
when I first started playing, I was primarily rhythm, so
and I'm still kind of learning how to kind of,
you know, do better with lead guitar because I'm not
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that great with my fingers. I'm still kind of overcoming
overcoming some certain things with my fingers and how I
properly place them and all that, like when I'm when
I'm soloing, thank you. But like, it takes me a
little while to come up with new stuff, but once
I do, I like to I like to make sure
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that it's like one hundred percent original, or at least
as close to original as I can get it, because
nowadays it can be kind of difficult to be one
hundred percent original because you know, some things, because it
seems like a lot of ideas are taken by now
if that makes sense. So sometimes you have to come
up with something that kind of takes a little bit
of everything. And I kind of take like some I
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kind of take certain styles from certain people, and uh
kind of incorporate him into my own thing. So I
kind of come up It kind of takes me a
while to come up with lead parts, but once I do,
I go full force on it.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
So and then I would like to add also that
Skylar and I have a small but somewhat limited knowledge
of music theory from Marching band and and his work
and uh when he was doing indoor drum line World
Class by the way, and uh, you know, we try
to we try to make something unique, you know, using
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using music theory. And sometimes I think it might go
over Zach and Mike's head sometimes when we're when we're
trying to settle things out, but I think it definitely
his his experience, scholar's experience and my experience in band
really do help, you know, trying to drive some rhythms
and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That is fool having that that musical background, like from
early on, did you just play drums like in middle
school and high school? Did you play like from the
time you were little early on from then on?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, uh, but uh, funny story, I was in
like fourth grade ironically Jacobs now stepmom or whatever she u.
I've known her for a very time, and she brought
me a pair of drumsticks in one to my house
because she's a distant family friend. And I think that
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was in fourth grade maybe, so I was probably eight
nine to ten ish, And so that's about when I
started playing when I was around nine. But I started
playing on one singular tom drum from a drum set
because that's all she brought me. And then I would
take my drumsticks to school every day in elementary school,
and I would just everyone else would be playing outside.
They would be playing you know, football tag, you know,
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playing on the playground. I would be sitting on the sidewalk,
my six on the sidewalk. And as time went on,
when I got in the middle school, I ended up
joining the middle school band, marching band, so on and
so forth. So roughly around nine years old is when
I started not playing the drum set, though I didn't
start playing the drum set until probably two years ago,
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so I've only been.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
On the drum set for rep roughly and a half
three years.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I had to start somewhere, right, And I also can
say that I think, you know, I did middle school band,
doing French horn and tuba and like wind instruments and
things like that. And I think me and Mike were
in the same boat, like around I don't know the
age of fifteen sixteen, I kind of taught myself how
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to play guitar, and I think Mike did as well,
just just to you know, be able to you know,
try to impress from people you.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Know, and oh, go for you the cool guys that
brought us.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Oh, I was the guy that brought every party, every party,
and you know I always got the same request, you know,
play Wonderwall.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I can't confirm I started learning how to play guitar
around fifteen. I didn't get my first real guitar till
I was probably about ten years old.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It was a little Fender Strata caster with a practice.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Samp I was given and I just kind of it
was a toy more or less to me personally, because
I didn't really want to learn how to play it
at the time because at the time I was ten,
so I didn't really I wasn't that musically inclined, and
really neither were any of my family members. I had
a few brothers who played piano, but that was pretty
much it. And then by the time I turned fifteen
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and I started listening to more of this metal.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Shit and all that, I was like, well, like, I
have a guitar. I have a guitar in.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
My closet, might as well just pull it out and
see if I could, you know, give this a shot,
and that's what I did.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I pulled it out. I just kind of I did
what I had to do, and.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
I just.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Started learning stuff by ear and looking at not not
necessarily sheet music, but guitar tabs.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's a subtle difference between the two, but I.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Started looking at guitar tabs and started learning how to
read them and just kind of I'm learning music by
ear and all that. And now I'm at the point
where I'm able to listen to most music and I
can learn it bout ear at this point.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So well that I cannot. I have like a bar.
I tried learning, I tried self keeping myself, and I
just didn't have the patience. But maybe one day.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, Because it's it's funny because.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
People ask me if I've ever taken any lessons, and
I'm like, no, I haven't. Like I'm completely I'm one
hundred percent self taught. Like I never went to any
guitar lessons or anything like that. Nobody sat down and
really taught me anything. I just watched YouTube listen by ear,
and that's really that's really all I did.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So I'm gonna brag on Mike here for a second.
He's only eighteen, and he is one hell of a
guitar player. I can only imagine how he's gonna be
within the next two years or so.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So kudos to him.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Ah yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you're gonna be great, dude.
I'm excited to hear how you guys grow and developed
and especially you. Yeah, absolutely, especially you, sir, you Yeah,
for sure, absolutely so. Kind of switching gears a little bit,
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I'm curious, what was you guys's first local show or
what was your first like small cap room, like any
tiny little in the wall in the middle of nowhere
by venues.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So y'all mind if I go ahead and take this one,
go for it. So the first show we ever played
was at the Commedy House in Columbia. It's basically it's
this little house in the middle of a suburb in Columbia,
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, we went, We went and played there.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It was our first ever show, and uh, you know,
I don't think it's safe to say that we didn't
really know what to expect. There were barely any posts
on their Instagram at the time when we went to
go play, so there wasn't really a whole lot to
see like what this place was. Like, we pull up
and it's this guy's living room, you know, really nice
guy too, who runs a place, and uh, you know,
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we go ahead and we go inside this tiny little
living room with a couch and like a like a
what would you call it, like a talent a chest
in the corner of the room. And there must have
been I want to say, there's probably at least maybe
like fifty or one hundred people there that night, you know,
just thrown down in this living room, and.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Everybody loved it.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Like everybody loved the set, you know, and obviously as
small as the place was, you know, you had people
like lined out the door and like looking through the
windows watching us play and all that.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
It was.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
It was a pretty fun night, Mike.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
You forgot about the part where it was like pouring
down rain.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yes, it was pouring down rain and went down there too.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
The funny thing is that the funny thing is that
this was also.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
In January, So this was like almost a year ago.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Now, this was in January, and it was humid as
hell out there too, probably like seventy degrees I want
to say, in the middle of winter.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Absolutely crazy, But yeah, it was so hot.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I thought I was wet because of the rain.
It had been inside for a couple of hours, and
it was not because of the rain. We got done
playing and we were all just drenched. Not from the rain,
by the way, there was no rain coming in the livroom.
But it was a cool experience. Like Mike said, you know,
there's people standing it's pouring down rain outside. People are
standing outside the windows, you know, trying to look in
because you just can't fit everyone in that small living room.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I hear you, yep. My I didn't start going on
local shows until later on, so I guess my first show.
I have the poster up on my wall. I nickname
it my birthday show because I went on my birthday.
My husband was working late and so I went by
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myself and I saw a bunch of really cool bands.
A couple of them aren't really active or around anymore.
But it was probably the coolest experience ever, just because
and it wasn't like anywhere like super out it or
like super or anything like that. But everyone was so nice.
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And it was freezing that day from March. I don't
know what was going on, but it was freezing. It
was outdoor venue. They had a bar to go in
and get uh drinks and stuff, and then you had
to come back out so you could hear the music. Yeah,
I mean it was a fun experience. I got hit
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and shout out my friend Corey because he immediately was like,
oh my god, are you okay? And I was like, yeah,
I think.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So. That's what I will add is that sorry, you're good.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I was. It's my fault. I was on like the
edge of the pit kind of like do I.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Want to go in?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't know. And then.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But what I was saying before was that's what I like.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
That's what I'll add is you know, people on the scene,
and it's really cool getting to see him come out
and you'll see the same group of PEP people come
out to local shows every now and then, which is
nice know that you have those kinds of people who
like your music that much want to see you on
that regular of a basis. You know, I go to
plenty of local shows myself, Me and the guys, we
go to plenty of local shows ourselves, and it's really.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Nice, you know, to see the.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Same people here and there and you know, kind of
make some homies in the scene.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, yeah, absolutely, I definitely there's a couple of
folks that I see fairly often just from not even
just from going to shows, but just interacting with people
like on Facebook and Instagram and you know, group chats
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and like just I've made a lot of friends via
the scene, whether it was in person or online, which
is really dope. And just about everyone has been great,
which is really nice.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's the one thing that I can say is specific
about this scene and this music that you lose no
matter what's going on in the world, whatever you have
going on in your life, when you go to a show,
or if you're involved in a band, or you play
in a band, or you know some plays in a
band and you end up going to one of those shows,
it's just all that goes away, you know, any worry
that's in your mind and just tends to go to
go away. And it always brings people together. That's the
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one thing that I love about doing this. Uh, it
really brings a lot of people closer together in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh yeah, the folks that I've interacted with meeting kind
as people ever give you the shirt off their back
quite literally. You see bands helping each other out, loaning,
loaning gear out and being really kind and awesome. It's
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like a couple of things that you know could be different,
but overall it's great to be a part of for sure.
Oh moving, I guess kind of right along through things.
(28:15):
I saw that you guys have a release coming out
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yes, yes we do. It is our I don't even
know what like number single.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
This is probably like five or six, maybe fifth, Okay, Yeah,
it's Through Empty Eyes. It's a song that Zach wrote. Actually,
this was a few years ago too. I thought we
wrote this song, and this song has been through multiple rewrites.
He could tell you more about it than I could,
but it's been through a lot of different like rewrites
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and just kind of revamping it here and there. So
I'll let him kind of take the reins on that
and tell you about it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
So yeah, so Through Empty Eyes I wrote it a
few years ago, and the whole song is just about
basically people's ignorance and fearing what they don't understand instead
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of trying to understand, you know, the unknown, immediately being
judgmental and thinking they know you when they don't know shit.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
That's basically what it's about.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Just, you know, people's ignorance in general, not willing to
see through the surface. They just want to see what's
on outside. So that's what it's about.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Thanks like it, like it definitely something that goes on
in multiple different areas, both of the scene in and
of the world in general.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think people could do with being just this tiny
bit list judgmental and not acting like they immediately know
everything early on, because that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Indeed, it's not all bad ry, that's true. They are
good people and bad people and every no population. So
but yeah, that one drops on January second.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Cool. Cool, And there is a pre safe link for that, folks,
So make sure that you go and look at these
guys' instagram because the link for the the pre saying
link for through Empty Eyes is there, So make sure
you go pre save it after you finished listening to
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this podcast. Moving on, thank you? Yeah yeah, pre save
links help bands. I need to put that on a
T shirt or something. Pre save links help bands.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
That would be like a piece of merchan with yourself.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Ay ye, people like for real, like, don't I don't
think they realize that that stuff helps Fans like streaming
your stuff, saving.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Like doing the pre saved, you know, buying tickets ahead
of time. Those sorts of things help fans out a lot,
and I don't sometimes I don't think people realize how
much they actually help. I agree, yeah, yeah, haven't been
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kind of around for a little while, like watching like
some of the behind the scenes stuff and seeing how
much work goes into active being in a band. Have
a tremendous amount of respect for people that decide that
they want to do this real through.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Definitely there's a lot of dedication that goes into it,
and not just in the craft and like whatever instrument
you may play, but also like to the people in
the band and sometimes having to kind of put those
people before yourself and just overall because like I can
tell you from experience that you know, just within the gosh,
(32:34):
like a little over a year that we've been playing together,
that you know, I'd take my id. You know, we
live in two completely different counties, and you know, if
one of them called me up and said, hey, I
got a flat tire on the side of the road,
you know I'd go do it now. Because that's just
the level of dedication you have when you have a
like kind of like an establishment like this now, and
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I think that's really that's something that's really important to
have in any kind of you know, establishment or group,
but in a band especially because we all I think
I speak for the rest of the guys, that we
all look at each other and we see each other
as brothers and it's just it's just how it is
and that's how we see it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Let's like, oh, I'm sorry, my back ahead.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
No, you go ahead, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I was just gonna say, like, plus too, Like you
have to remember being in a van like those you know,
if you guys go on the road and such, those
are going to be the people that you know, you're
sleeping next to you in the van, we're sleeping across
from in the van, or the people that you're you know,
going to I don't know, cheats with at two o'clock
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in the morning because you send them. Think show and starving,
or the person that's going to be driving because you're
tired and can't so you're taking turns driving. It's a lot,
so definitely a lot to consider if you're getting kind
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of in the in the line of wanting to be
in a band. So for new musicians who are listening this,
please think this through to make sure that you actually
like your bandmates.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Absolutely. I definitely second that.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, me too, and piggybacking off, what might you know,
I take a bullet for these guys.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
And what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Uh eight, is that there's a there's a lot more
into it that people realize, especially that aren't in the scene.
You know, it's not just going to play a show
or maybe releasing a song, but there is a lot
goes into it, and it sure does take teamwork, and uh,
if you don't have them by your side, you know,
it's a lot will fall on to one person or
two people if if you don't, if it's not equalize,
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and you.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Know people do apart.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
So it for sure on what you were saying, pick
your babites wisely.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Absolutely so. I know I kind of asked about earlier
kind of sits a little bit. I asked earlier a
little bit about like like your first like local shows
and that sort of thing. So over the past year,
what's been maybe like the craziest thing that's happened or
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something that you'll never forget other than you know, being
drenched and you know, sweating death this one.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Go ahead, Jake, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So we were we were playing a show maybe a
month ago now, maybe a little more than that, and
we were playing got this, uh this local venue, and
like you know, we weren't even I personally don't even
think we were even the main act. I think we
were like supporting a band that was up and coming
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and releasing their EP. But when we played, there were
maybe twenty or so people in the crowd that were
like singing our songs back to us, and I thought
that was pretty cools.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
What Jacob was saying is I believe I was gonna
mention the same thing we play, and I'm gonna call
this venue out because we absolutely love it and we
a good bit.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's called Ground Zero.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
And every time that we've played full of times, and
we're about to play there some more times within the
next couple months. There's a handful of guys that come,
like probably fifteen twenty guys from maybe ten fifteen twenty
guys were around there, and they always come to that
show at Ground Zero, and they always come and they
speak to us. They love they support us, and they
sing our song or playing our sets. So it's really cool.
(36:58):
It's a very cool experience to be able to, you know,
witness that, especially you know, only a little over year
into doing this, so it's it's cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I've actually I've been to Ground Zero once. It was
for a Little Death Best sut Out a Little Death
for the homies, dam and all of you guys, and
I liked I liked the venue. I thought it was
it was cool.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, we love playing at Ground Zero.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
It's probably my favorite venue to play at, my personal
favorite venue to play out. I don't know about the
rest of the guys, but it's definitely a personal favorite
of mine.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
And so all is.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Does the same guy still running it?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
About the same guy running round zero? I believe?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
So okay, yeah he's it's the same guy.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, uh, I got it.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I don't know if you're asking only for local shows
or just you know, in the past, you know you're
in general. But one of my personal favorites besides Ground Zero,
we played at the twenty seven Club in Ashville recently,
and the amount of people that were there that knew
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our songs just from TikTok and like we had never
played there before, we'd never played in Ashville, and the
amount of people who showed up and showed out for us.
Was absolutely incredible. Like when I tell you we got
that bitch jumping, we got that bitch jump in. They
even called for an encore and we weren't even the headliner.
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It was pretty fucking sick.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Great.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
That's one of my favorites from the Jump.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, I second that the twenty seven Club probably has
to be up there at the top with one of
my favorites right there with Ground zero also.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
And I'm actually I'm glad that you brought up TikTok
because I wanted to touch on that really quickly we
wrap things up. So that is actually how I found
these lovely folks. Guys. So when everyone says, oh, just
another you know, or just a TikTok band or a
band I feel on TikTok, I'm telling you attention, some
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of these bands really slap. So if I were you,
I would before it gets banned, going through TikTok and
just type in bands I don't know yet and just scroll.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Zach is the mastermind behind all that, so he gets
all the credit for it.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Well, I mean, I guess partially me too, because I
do make some of the memes that he posts.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
But yeah, it's pretty insane that it. You know, it
might be going by bye for real this time in January.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Yeah, it really sucks because we finally are really getting
some traction. We just recently had a video blow up
forty thousand views. We gained like two thousand followers within
three or four days, and we finally, you know, started
doing lives and everything like that. So I'm really hoping,
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you know, that decision gets reversed. But if it doesn't,
you know, I can them. I can try to ask
everybody to go follow us on Instagram or something.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yes, I mean Instagram reels is you know Instagram reels
is a thing.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Well, yeah, that's that's really what kicked it off for
all of us. Like Mike was saying kudos to him too,
because he made a reel for us, and it was
really funny. If you ever go back, you got to
dig a little bit for it. But it's got i think,
almost four hundred thousand views.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And it was a meme that uh I made.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
And it's one of the first ones on there.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Oh okay, well that works, but uh it was a
meme that Mike made with one of our songs behind it,
and it did really well.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
I was I was gonna say, you know, add to it.
You know, not only do we have to you know,
make music and have it get produced and put out
there and play shows and you know, really manage our time,
you know, getting to those shows and getting prepared for those.
You know, we also, you know, in this day and age,
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have to be content creators, you know, and you know,
really get your name out there by you know, speaking
about what you what you do, and and the music
that you make and while you make it and things
like that. So kudos to act because he spends a
lot of time trying to get our name out there.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Definitely got to, like you said, the Hunting Creators got
t shirt. You do all this stuff and if is
not easy, but I'd like to believe that it's worth.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
It, absolutely, And kind of touching on you know what
you said before about you know, just another TikTok band,
like this is like and I was thinking about this
just today actually at work, I was thinking about, you know,
like this is what all like the MySpace era bands
were doing pretty much just modernized, you know, except now
it's just a different like social media platform.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
So it's it's changed a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
And you know and speaking on you know, becoming being
like content creators and all that.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Like, there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
More that goes into it, and just you know, bringing
your instruments to a show and playing it and playing
a show. You know, you're essentially running like a clothing
and you know, video production business as much as you
are like a music business. So you have to look
at certain things through a certain business standpoint, even if
you're not doing it all for the money. But in
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the end, it all really works out, absolutely definitely does.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, And like you said, hope, I'm hoping that either
it doesn't actually happen because I would love to keep
finding really cool bands on tiktook. But even if it does,
my hope is that either another platform will come along
that is either in some way, shape or form similar
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and be just as helpful to bands because you know,
whether people like using it or not, it's a school
and it's there, and there's a lot of bands that
have had some really good success with it. So if
it's there for you to use it, it's free, why not.
But you know, we could we could talk about that
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for hours.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Oh yeah, we could go on about how many people
you know.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
You know, some people will be like, well you constantly
post this and that like on TikTok, and we're like, well,
this is basically like this basically exists.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
For marketing, so like what are we supposed to do
with it?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You know? Yeah, And you know, I was one of
those people that definitely talked a lot about it when
I first started doing you know, the podcast and everything.
I was one of those people that was like, eh,
I don't want to use TikTok, like making a big
huge deal about it. And then I got over it
was like, Okay, it's not that bad being a little dramatic,
(44:31):
and now it's a cool that I use all the time,
and I don't post as often as I should, but
I'm able to interact with you know, bands on a
completely different platform that isn't quite so like ridiculous. Oh yeah,
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so hopefully, well things will work out, but we'll see
what happen. But until then, guys, make sure you go
and support these events and go like some of their
videos because a lot of their videos and memes on
TikTok are really funny.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
And if I could, I don't know, if you're about
to close out. But I would also like to say
that I'm very proud of the guys for all the
hard work that they've been putting in with me this
past year. And our top song we hit over ten
thousand streams not too long ago. So very proud of.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Ye that.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yeah, I second that one hundred percent. Really proud of
everybody in the band. And you know, I already said before,
I know, like I do anything for these guys, even
if you know we're pretty.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Considerable distance away.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
But you know, again, this is the dedication that we
have to one another, and you know, the dedication to
a band, into the genre and to this music scene
that we're part of. I'm really proud of what we
managed to create within the past year. It's crazy to
think how much we've grown.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
But I agree.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Slog out boys for sure.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
You guys are.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
You guys are gonna make me sick, right, I was love.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And support and caring about each other. But I'm kidding.
That's awesome. No, I'm really glad that that you guys
have this relationship and I look forward to seeing it
continue to grow and thus create more tunes to throw
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down in my car when I'm on the way to.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Work in the morning.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Well, we appreciate you for that, We really do, of course.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Of course, Well, guys, absolutely, it has been so great
having you on. I really appreciate you making time for this.
It's been great getting to know you, and I definitely
look again, I look forward to seeing what you guys
do and the next year, twenty twenty five, it's gonna
(47:18):
be dope. It's gonna be great, it's gonna be huge.
I'm excited and I definitely cannot wait for the new
single to come out. That's all I already know it's
going to be a banger.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
So well, thank you so much, Dade for having us.
Really appreciate you setting this up with us, and it's
been a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Of course, Thank you, Jay, absolutely, of course you are
so good for taking the time. Absolutely appreciate Got it dude,
real quick before we roll about here and listeners, you
know how we get down over here. You know, we
always support the homies, So make sure you go like
come shoes right, all that good stuff to a separate
(48:02):
piece by merch when they have a go to shows
when they have you guys know the drill, gentlemen. It
has been real thank you
Speaker 3 (48:09):
So much, absolutely thank you, thank you so much.