November 2, 2024 • 48 mins
Cody, Jessie, Sean and Christian of North Carolina hardcore band Bunker Hill BloothBath stop by to talk about their recent endeavors, their new song/video The Killing Floor, and much more
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode of the Missfit Minutes podcast.
I'm your host, of course, Jade. If you're new around here, welcome,
If you're not new around here, welcome back to the chaos.
So for this special episode, I have not one, not two,
not three, not but four excuse me, very special guests
with me. I have Cody, Jesse, Sean and Christian from
(00:23):
Bunker Hill Bloodbath. Welcome guys, what is up? How's you
guys this weekend? Ben?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Thank you Shabby. The show we had yesterday at Carolin
was a good.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Time to ask about that.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh yeah, Unfortunately I screwed up and did not bring
headphones for backing track.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So oh and we've all just decided that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
From time to time we we tend to do clicks
and backtracks and things that we can include our sound
bits and things like that in the song. But this
time we just went wrong with it. And there's so
much more like quote unquote raw energy in it. When
we don't have the computer keeping.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Us in tempo, it's very just let the hair down
and go with it.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Yeah yeah, Cody, Yeah, Cody definitely can just control how
heavy it gets essentially.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And that's really what it is like. Because we're working
off of his timing, it's and he's keeping the flow
of everything. He can really play with the empty spaces
and maybe drawing out a hole right before a build
up a little bit longer, and it just increased the anticipation.
Where I was thinking about this today, Actually, when we
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have the track going, there's always that thing in the
back of your head that we got to stay in
the track. We always got to stay the track, and
so there's almost like a mental not like a rush,
but there's there's like a it's just a thing in
the back of your head that's always keeping you, of
course on time, but it it causes you to like
kind of rough I know, for me, for like bantering
(02:04):
between songs and things. You gotta push it because he's
got something coming, you know, and so the flow can
kind of be off where if we're not on it,
we're jumping back and forth, we can kind of communicate
a little bit better. We're not worried about this literal
timer in the back of our minds.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Yeah, and it worked out because where that guy fell,
we could just stop and we would have to be.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Like, okay, stop, Cody hit.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Like it was. Yeah, that would have been That would
have been way more of a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Definite.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We had the computer and somebody would.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Pass down, so people got knocked down and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, just pick out a little nuts and an old
gentleman got knocked down.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's okay, but didn't like it yet, pulled up too quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I don't think he was. I think he was walking
through the pit.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean that is.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Who I see both sides, because I've definitely been in
the pit and hit someone by accident that was not
part of the pit, and I was like, oh ship,
my bad. But I've been on the receiving end of that,
so like, I mean for me, like it's kind of
like dude from the movie Had To Train Your Dragon.
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It's an occupational hazard. If you're going to be near
the pit, your you risk getting hit.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So I think Jesse hit the ship out of me.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
One time we were watching some band play and he
just came flying across and I was just on the
edge because I don't usually get.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
A victim of Jesse.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
A few times if you're not hitting each other in
the band a.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Band, I mean, oh, I know I've seen you guys
play once, so I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I've seen you do it very very sparing, like very rarely.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
But yeah, yeah, sometimes I take a few drinks and
it just kind of adds on.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's that full it is, right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah. I remember seeing y'all play at Total Death Pest
and I remember being pretty blown away with the energy, honestly.
And I had never heard of y'all prior to that,
other than like, I think they had a playlist together
of like all the different bands, so I had heard
a couple of the songs, but other than that, I
never I had never seen y'all before. I was like, oh,
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this will be interesting, and I have a video of
it on my TikTok like where y'all were performing, and
it was the energy was just there, Sean, you were
all over the place. I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You can't even se.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, I don't know. It's something about what these guys
play that just it really does take over me. When
we're playing live, it feels like, in a weird way
that I get the opportunity, even though they're they're pushing it,
I get to conduct in some form. That's why I
do a lot of the hand movements and things like that,
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and I'm everywhere and all over the place on the stage.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
The vocalist of the band, you know, That's that's pretty
much the job of the vocalist's band, just be that
face of the band that you know, kind of carries
it and represents it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I just it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Really. If we were doing slower stuff, it would probably
be different. I would probably have an entirely different demeanor.
But I love the type of music that we make
is so influenced by the things that we all listen
to anyway, So it's just something that goes through me.
And I could be having the worst time right before
stay and in the case of me locking like Key's
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in my car, I was not having a great time
right before we got on, but the moment we hit
that first note, I cut it on and it was
ready to go and the It's just something that I've
tried to formulate on stage, not like a persona in
a way, but to emphasize as much as I can.
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Because they're already pushing out a thousand horsepower with their instruments,
I have to do that with my voice and with
my demeanor in some way in order to not be
the one stale fish on stage because if I didn't,
I would just be standing there screaming. And it was
so long.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Because I huge advancements in that.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, I would concentrate so much on like trying not
to mess up.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, I realized it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, because oftentimes they don't know where you're messing up.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's what my choir teacher used to tell me when
I was in chorus when I was in school. You'd
be like, listen, Honestly, half the time people don't even
know the whole all the lyrics to the song anyway,
So just go with it, and if you mess up,
just handle it as gracefully as you can and just
keep it moving, because I promise you they probably I
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don't know the words, and if they do, it's.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
Fine, especially if it's something brand new, because they've never
heard of it anyfore them. Yeah, they never heard it before,
so that mess up they could they that's just part
of the song.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, that's so funny that the one part where we
break it down right and the killing was like, for
the love of God, Cody give me.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But that's the whole boy being in the rhythm session
like that is that y'all work off each other so well. Yeah. Yeah, Actually,
interestingly enough, just throwing through TikTok, I saw a thing
that Bruce Springsteen was on interview talking about how because
he does, like he's four hour concerts, right, and they
constantly change up their set list, so there are rare
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times that a band that's been performing together for over forty.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Years will have a mess up.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And he's found that in the thousands of shows that
he's done, people are actually coming for an imperfect show
because to show that you can make it past that
little screw up and move on with the show and
it become more organic and it just flows right back
into the show.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
People enjoy that realness in that goof up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So I think it goes to show that a lot
of things that people get hung up on as musicians
is the perfection just to the point, a lot of
people really enjoy the realness of maybe a screw up
unless you're completely bombing on stage.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
But Yeah, what was good about Jesse and Cody is
if Cody messes up, he can just feel and hit
it right.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Back at Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Rarely, we rarely.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Mess up honestly, I feel, but especially Jesse, like he's
just he's such a good improv so if he hits
the wrong note, he can just slide into something.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
It sounds it sounds like it was supposed to be
like that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So yeah, yeah, I think that comes with just how
they play off of each other.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, oftentimes we're coming into practice they're just doing
crazy shit.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
They Jesse not train on a daily basis. You know,
we're we're constantly in here doing jam sessions, and it's
pretty much it's pretty much to the point where we're
not even doing jam sessions anymore. We're like writing full
songs just out of nowhere. Yeah, we uh, we get
in the groove.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
And then once you uh, once you find it, it's
like easy to set into. So even if you like
catch a quick mess up, you know you you've already
been uh you know, playing it so many times, you
just go right through it like it's nothing, and uh,
you know, nobody really, like you said, nobody pays attention
to them little nessas when you have a performance that
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has the high energy and the the heavy just.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Interface that we do high energy and craziness cushions and.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
And it's hardcore. We're not playing tracking.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
For yeah stuff, that's it's way more prevalent, it's way more.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Obvious for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, definitely. I guess in my like I said, in
my experience of just like dealing with with screw ups,
you just kind of handle it and just keep it moving,
which is cool. And so I know we touched on
seeing you guys at Total death Fest. So this is
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kind of only m so don't judge me. But I
remember after this set, I was so impressed. I was
like being super cringe and was like, can I give
your spook loose? You're like someone I forget who it was,
but you were like, sure, you can go, and I
was like cool, thanks.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I was getting ready to ask.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I was getting ready to ask how often you guys
get you know, asked about you have your settlers or
can I have your drumstick or whatever?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The other show?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Every couple of shows.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
If it's a bigger show, it's far more likely it's got.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Every festival we've been to, someone like I wanted me
to sign their fate.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
They wanted us to sign the.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, they had to sign baits.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
They had a sign bottles. But I think, uh, I
gave drum sticks away and signed them.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, but we had a we had a big.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
For for me at least, I had a big moment.
Uh when on maybe it was like our second or
third time playing in Raleigh, and somebody came up and said,
you know, you guys are are my favorite band. Like
all the bands I listened to, you guys are the US,
And I'm like, we're you know, we we had only
been doing it for maybe a year at that point,
and it's just it was just a nice experience to
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know that people were listening to us that much that
we were their favorite already.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
You know seng Ayway is Halle costume wig yesterday?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was, Uh, I was fifty First Dates. I was
Gula from fifty First Dates.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Literally right after our set, I walked out with it
on stage. I couldn't keep it on, but I said
on my mic standing and immediately after the set, some kid.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Walks im, just after wig, you know what, dude, take
the wig.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't want to take you home.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, that's really funny.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
We've had a multitude of things and then of course
all the stuff that we've had at our merged table
that has uh been things with our face on it
ship like that. That's been fun. We had a goofy
picture of Jesse that we got at the first to.
Speaker 11 (12:59):
Man, they were gone, Yeah, he had Our friend Eli
got him a spencer's gift inflatable penis crown and uh,
and I edited it and made it fun and made
it a little more goofy, and then we made it
into like this shape of his head and I printed
out as a sticker and uh, I couldn't keep them
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on the I wanted, but I need to pronounce more.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I still got the digitals, so I'll definitely pronounce some
more soon.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's really funny. Yes, that's funny. That's why what happens
when you're in a band, will take goofy pictures of
you and they use it for merch and stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I mean. And if we had access to, like being
able to do crazy prints on the shirts more effectively,
because we do all our own printing and everything for
our merch, if we had access to like some type
of graphic print situation that was reasonable, we would do insane,
ridiculous T shirts if we could. Uh, maybe one day,
(14:02):
but as of now, we're doing what we can. But
you'd be surprised at how much people like that ship. Yeah,
do small batch things, so it's something where we can
do fifteen to twenty and then if it sells, it sells.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
If not, we can kind of put it on the
back burn and rotate.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Things out, things eas Yeah, and they make a sailbox
like I like to do that. Yeah, ten dollars shirts
and everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like exactly, I love me a good salebox and be
like ooh, this is a three x well, guess what
I'm wearing. This is a night shirt exactly. Or or
turn it into a crop top and just cut it off.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Well, I think some of like my most prized
like band related possessions is not even stuff that's like
was that was paid for. It was just stuff that
the band gave me. Like I have have a sign
it's up on my walls time, I'm looking up a
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signed poster from Exit Wounds that every member of the
band signed it and they were kind enough to do that.
They didn't have to, and they it's funny because they
searched for the silver sharpie for like twenty minutes and
they were I was like, guys, it really, it's okay.
You don't have to, and they were like, no, we've
started it. Two people have already signed the poster. We
got to get everybody to do it. And I was like, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Think bars and venues need to have just a pack
of silver sharpies online at all times because it is
the holy grail of sharpies at a show. Yeah, on
one you you are. You are the king of that night.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Everything's black yeah whatever, Yeah, from mark to sign stuff,
whatever it is. Those those silver sharpies are hard to find.
I need to have a pack myself.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I need to get a pack. I'm glad that I
mentioned that because I'm to get a pack for the
comic con.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
I go to become a productive podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It really has, it really has. Yeah. I've got like
posters and different things. I've got autumnized. Buried gave me
a set of broken drumsticks that they get that it
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was from the first time I ever saw them, which
was really cool. I've got like some of the like
neatest looking stickers ever. I have one that it's from
a band that they're not active anymore, but it's like
a NASCAR theme. I'm not gonna say on camera what
it what all it says, but it has their little
on it and it has a funny phrase. It's a cool
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little sticker and it's like a it's like a I'm
trying to think of like the style of sticker. But
it goes on like your bumper. There we go. It
goes on your back bumper. It's a really cool it
can sticker. To show you, guys, leader, I have like
a I have a Christmas card from uh Lucy Speedball.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of them.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
But a.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Shout out, shout out Vinnie love you dude.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, I actually have one of the Lucy's Feedball set list.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh really nice.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I can't face poster.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, the three of us went and we waited till
after the show and everything. It was that NBT right yeah,
New Brook NBT before they moved, and god, that was
a good show.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I don't think I've been to a show with you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, well our shows.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Mm hmm those don't count.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah that's those shows. Yeah stuff Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, so signed, So where do you live exactly?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Some of that exclusive stuff for sure is definitely hard
to come by. Every time I say someone post about
I got the limited edition windbreaker, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Like, Darren, you's got that extra cash around like that?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Like someone was fussing about the prices of like merch,
like a few weeks ago, or maybe a couple of
days ago, I saw somebody share a meme about like
when did merch become eighty dollars? And and I was like,
because I'm friends with so many bands, I'm like, I mean,
I kind of get it, but also like.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Sure we keep our prices stupid low.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, they try to. It's something that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Me and Christian try and dissect because that is our
one of our biggest things about making money in the
band is the T shirts and merch and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
We're trying to come up with new ideas.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
That really started because we were we played with a
band called Turn Cold, and they had the most incredible
merch table I've ever seen, glasses, grinders, joints, T shirts, bags, posters,
they had the baseball bats from like you get from
the stadiums like.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Cold. But from there we.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Were like, we need to find and make merch that
is unique and that people are going to actually want
to buy more than just a black T shirt and
a hat. Maybe and some stickers or whatever. So we
started with the ridiculous glasses and stuff and.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, the pit well, but we do them ourselves.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, everything that comes off of our table handmade.
And that's where we try and make a point because
we can save some of that money on our front end. Uh,
we're able to keep our shirts at a little bit
lower the price, I would say comparatively to everyone else
that's throwing twenty five thirty five dollars on a shirt
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because they got to make their money, but they're paying
up front.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Have that to get it made.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Our most expensive is our hoodie and it's forty dollars.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's that's reasonable.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, so big, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I think when it gets to like.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like finger hoodie is about fifty sixty
bucks or yeah, and then you get in the windbreakers
and ship like that, you're talking eighty two three figures.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So I mean, it's it's something that we try.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
And and work on and change and with able to
do small stuff, we can if something doesn't work, we
just move to the next thing. And we don't have
this crazy backstock or we didn't pay this crazy upfront
price to already plus shirts or whatever.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
And then they not sell. So we just got to
do the work.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that part is sitting there over the heat
press and all that stuff and the ink and everything,
but it comes out.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'm very proud of what we've designed and what we
put together and everything. I mean, everything that we've put
on the table and come up with has all been
in house. We've come up with designs, we've put it together,
try to figure out how to do it, do it
the most logistic way possible, and then actually execute it
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and it comes out in being better prices on the
table for anyone listening.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
If you need easy quick shirts for bands, hit up Sean.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yea, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, we've slowly built up. We don't have the perfect
set up, but we've slowly built up machines and things
and heaters. Have to try and do it the most
effective way possible, because what I found is that it
really is a system, and if you screw up that system,
you get covered and paint like legit. I will have,
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I have, I will go through a whole roll of
paper towels if I don't keep the system coming, and
then you worry about getting it on the clothing and
it's a whole mess, it really is, but we do it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
That's what we got to do.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
We try not to pay fifteen twenty dollars for tab
a shirt made and then sell it for five dollars profit. Yeah,
and that's just that's incredibly disheartening, especially when you're working
as a musician with not a whole lot of money.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We're putting all this investment in from our own pockets.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It feels a lot better and a lot more gratifying
to say we made this from scratch almost and someone
bought it. It's such a more gratifying thing. It's quite
literally like people are buying your artwork on a regular basis.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
It's so cool and we had a couple of moments
and it gives us making our owners, gives us the
leeway where we.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Had like a kid come up to the table.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
You're like, man, I don't got twenty, I got ten.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, And I'm like, well we okay, yeah, we're not
a couple of bucks on it. And now you have
something to support us, and that means so much more
to us than that few extra dollars. Like the fact
that you wear that around now and have eyeballs on
our name. At least, it's so much more important than
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the few dollars that we made or that we lost.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So yeah, being in being in a band, for sure,
there's that there's always that balance of like wanting your
name out there, wanting people to see you and see
your stuff and everything, and you know, building up your
band because essentially a band is kind of like a business.
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So and it's and like I used to hate that mentality.
I used to be like, oh, man, bands are supposed
to be fun. And I kind of like started hanging
around more people in bands and I was like, Okay, yeah,
this makes more sense. So like there's a there's obviously,
or for me personally, it's like a balance between treating
it like a business but also having fun and you know,
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having those heartwarming, meaningful moments with your fans because those
are the things that are going to make them want
to support you more.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
For sure, I don't like being traveling t shirts salesman's
But what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's an element because of the nature of music and
business as a whole. The actual songs themselves, back in
the day used to be the bread and butter. That's
how you would make your money is those straight up
physical records. So now that everything's just streaming, the only
way that you can make your money is with still
with physical things other than straight up concerts and shows
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and things like that. But when you're in a small
venue and things and there's a seventy thirty split on
the door and things like that, with the venue, there's
not a lot of room to be making money. So
when you factor in that a twenty dollars merch shirt
is the equivalent of five thousand Spotify streams in terms
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of revenue. The physical stuff still wins out. It's just
now that and if we have physical copies, oh my god,
even better. And we're working on that at some point,
but yeah, we'll definitely want to do that in the
next couple of months or so. But with the physical stuff,
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it's tangible. It makes it worth it. People see the
songs themselves. They're basically as advertisements. They're there to show
that we made this and that it's enjoyable and that
you enjoys as a band. But for us to make
our money other than the fun part of it is
the physical stuff. Yeah, getting gold records like that, So
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we're not one hundred thousand sell sold copy. Yeah, and
for whatever, even if you did have a record or wind,
I can't just sell one song for twenty dollas.
Speaker 12 (26:26):
Yeah, thankfully, Jesse and Cody they do do a the
lion's share of the writing of the music, so thankfully
they can make really good.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Songs and then we can all collaborate on them.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So we can sell shirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, songs of
the advertisements for the shirts.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And speaking of amazing, wonderful good songs, you guys, I
don't remember if we touched on it earlier, but on
October fourth, you guys had the Killing four come out,
so I would curious about. First of all, great song.
I like it. It's been on the playlist for a
hot minute. The video for it was a great as well.
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I was curious about the lighting for the video. It
kind of reminded me of the Man in the Box
video from Allison Chains, like a little bit, not not
nearly the same lighting, but like that grainy kind of
like yeah, almost like old. It was meant like it
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was meant to look old, but it looks really good.
I liked it, So I was curious about how how
y'all made that work.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
It's interesting you said me in the box, because none
of us even thought about that, but that that does
for all those comparisons a bit. We were actually really
inspired by h two different Pantara videos.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Okay it's alone and.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm broken, we're two big ones.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And then in terms of the actual lighting itself that
that blue tent situation was actually put on a post
but with Christian's wife had some ring lights that we
put up and and just got the right angle so
we didn't get too much Claire in anything, and then
just work on getting the camera angles that we wanted,
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make sure we shot it in the best resolution that
we could, and then and then a lot of it.
I didn't do a lot of editing posts because.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I didn't do the editing for the video, but.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It was once I got everything aspect ratio and framed,
it was as simple as putting on a proper effect
and then adjusting everything that I wanted it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I did a.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Couple color corrections and things, but ultimately a lot of
it was done on the initial trying to make sure
we didn't have light washing us out while we're filming,
because that's it so impacts the difference.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
In how things are shot and how much the cam.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Actually picks up and how much things are oversaturated and stuff.
So we tried to go from the initial and then
that way that my part of the editing was so
much easier.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Well, I have to say, Sean didn't just edit. He
pretty much did the whole thing. Like I have to
give my man credit over here, because I just brought
the gear.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, we just showed up.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Most mostly the three of us just kind of showed
up to the spot. Sean had everything set up for
the video, and we just we just did the performance
the way that we the best way we.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Could for the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I think I'm a very visual person and so in
the same way that the music kind of flows through
me on stage, I sit and pontificate about how this
would look visually and being inspired by things like the
Pantera videos.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Which I enjoyed a lot, because like, for.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Instance, the camera angle of the fret board in the
music video was directly pulled from from those music videos.
And at least I think I'm broken as the one.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean we discussed the video, uh like that,
those kind of aspects and how we wanted what we
wanted to pull beforehand, but just showing like the this
general filming of the idea was all like.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think I'm decent logistics, so I can go, well,
what we need to accomplish, this is what we need
to do to accomplish it. And then from there it's
just making sure I communicate that effectively with these three
so that we can show down camera.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
So and we did have a lot more control over
this video.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, last video we had somebody else to write
for us. So it's just it's easy. It's a little
easier when you're when you're doing your own thing to
just be like, this is you know, this is what's
in our head. Let's just let's just place that down
and see how we we can do it. And uh,
just if you have somebody who's just decently experienced with
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camera work, you can make a lot of a lot
of stuff stand out.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
There is a difference between professional cameras and phones iPhones.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yeah, on cameras crazy iPhone.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
So yeah, yeah, we did get a steady cam, so
we tried upgrade the equipment just a little bit. But
I think it just goes to show that I mean,
in no way about it is a perfect music video,
but We probably spent fifty bucks total, including buying that
steady cam to make this video happen. The garage was
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my friend Nick's house and he was also helping with
camera stuff. That was his car in the video.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Uh so we really got.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Lucky with having having a set already out the gate
ready to go. And then we've had so much media
stuff that we've collected over the years that really the
only thing that really was missing was a high end
camera or whatever. But unfortunately, these these newer iPhone can
do a decent job, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, cameras nowadays are crazy. Like I don't take professional
photos at shows because a I don't have a professional
camera and be you know, kind of broke, so don't
have one. But I've taken fairly decent photos with my phone,
(32:29):
which I recently got a newer phone. But even the
phone that I had before this one, I had the
Samsung Galaxy Note and that one took fairly decent photos.
In this one, the Samsung Galaxy twenty three f E. Yeah,
(32:49):
that even that takes good photos and videos as well.
So I kind of go back and forth about like
camera call and such, because like you want it to
look good, but then at the same time you're like,
I can do so much with what I have. Absolutely,
you know, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
There's no denying what those high resolution cameras can do.
I mean some of the even if you look at
just file size themselves, the files themselves have far more
capacity to them because it's such a higher resolution that
you can zoom in on things and tighten up. And
so when I was editing, I was limited to how
much I could zoom in without blurring the image out
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like crazy, because I didn't have an insane amount of
resolution I would have with a four K high end camera.
But again it's that thing of working with what you got.
So I did it to what I could I limited space.
You try and emphasize things I've noticed when you're editing
or when you're producing or directing a certain scene or
(33:53):
shot that you if you focus on a lot of uh,
everything going around, it can kind of complicate the scene.
So if you tighten it up on one specific thing,
as long as it's not too much, it can tell
the story with steps rather than a whole scene like
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a play.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So and in that you're able to use.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
A camera with a lower resolution a little more effectively
if you're doing it in the physical sense of quite
literally putting that partly shot in but pulling it in
from a wide shot. I'm getting really technical about I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Mean, it's it's neat stuff though, like I I mean,
I'm not an expert by any means, but it's neat
stuff to see what people can create and do with cameras.
I've seen, you know, like different music videos from not
even like big big bands, but from like smaller bands
that don't have like huge budgets and stuff, and the
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video still turn out really cool. So I think one
of my favorites is it's not really like a fairly
huge technical video that I'm aware of anyway, but the
video for Full Sin from Within is just hilarious. The
shots are really funny.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, their their personality in their band. Yeah, I think
that's what's perfect about it. I Mean, we've interacted those
guys a lot, and everything that is their band I
think shows out in that video, and that's what makes
it a good video.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's a little window into their world.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Even though they were acting and doing the whole thing
of it, they really showed themselves and that's that's what
was great about it.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You're in a band, you don't have to spend three
grands on the video, like just playing in d I Y.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
You can do it.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
There's a lot of the video making aspect, but you know,
the other half of the music video is the music.
The music has been getting even more you know heavy.
I think each time we dropped something, it feels like
there's a heav more you know, stronger anticipation. People are
getting ready to to listen to something new from us.
And then this time it just felt like we had
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a lot of build up before the video and you know,
just letting everybody know we had something big on the
way this time. So and it really showed. It plasted
our expectations honestly, of how how much the reaction was
going to be pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
So I didn't find out about it later and I
was really mad. I was like the algorithm.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Being like the main poster in the band. It is
such like a thing in the back of your head
of like it is like a gatekeeper in a way,
because it will not put you in front of people,
even though they follow you and stuff like that. It
just falls to me people their feet gets is crazy
and so I'll get likes from things three days later
(37:13):
on stuff from people, and I'm like, what in the world,
this doesn't make any sense. Even though it got it
spiked the day I posted it, I'm getting residual random
things a couple of days later, So that algorithm is
a demon.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, we're really happy with how the the response that
we got from the music video there was definitely more
than I anticipated on the initial It doubled our first
video in terms of views. It was he less than that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, it was crazy and well did it continue to grow?
Speaker 10 (37:55):
Man?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It What we found through our artists thing is that
it's recommended on a bunch of really cool videos. So
like the the recommended tab that you see somebody be
listening to this huge band and thels right there. It's
that's even cooler to me.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yeah that's you know, it's the list of show and
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And they might even be bands that are like similar
to us exactly, but they'll be like in the heavy
metal or mar and YouTube just recommends it. And so
I think we're gonna try and push YouTube honestly a
lot more in these next couple of months in terms
of just trying to grow our platform and everything because
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just at random spikes from YouTube that I didn't expect.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Amount of people actually listening.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
To YouTube pop.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's kind of kind of an untapped
market in some way.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Men sitting on YouTube and just kind of vibe and
just clicking on stuff. It's almost almost better than listening
to stuff on like Spotify or whatever, just because like
you're seeing the visual of the thumbnail for the video
and you're like, huh, I wonder what that's about, and
you know, you're clicking on it, and you know, like
you said, like the recommended tab is really nice too,
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because then you're listening to stuff that's kind of sort
of similar or might not be exactly what you were
just listening to, but still really cool.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's probably part of it too.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
The people see our thumbnail and see Sean being that
that angry face and that.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It feels weird sometimes to be the quote unquote face
of something or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
But when they say that, but.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I did. I wasn't the one that posted with my
face on it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
But I was surprised that at first, but.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Like it was one of like even looking through it, it
was one of the recommended thumbnails from YouTube and I'm like,
that's just that's just it's right there, and I went
ahead and use it. Yeah, it's like right there, right
there from from you. It's like they knew, they knew
it was going to be the best one for people
to people to click on.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, because other than that, it's gonna be those ridiculous
thumbnails where it's like huge wording and the ridiculous faces
and people like.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Yeah, our first video thumbnail was just the name of
the song. Was that people people weren't weren't clicking on
the video just based based on the thumbmail. You know,
It's like that, it's like just had the name. So yeah,
not as not as enticing. I think, you know, it
was interesting. You make that point because I.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Did that with uh play his play through video the
other day and its views.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Were nowhere near Yeah it was. I think that is
a valid point.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
No one wants to watch a base place yea.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Even still with the I think the alurithm may recognize
the words and on the screen or whatever, and it
looks really simple and playing and so they don't bump
it like they would something that has a person on it.
It shows that it might be an interesting video.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Yeah, people are seeing it when they're when they're clicking
through their other you know, big bands that they like.
Which is which is a major contributor to our viewership,
is just having having our stuff pop up in them
and then recommendations.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Plus on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Personally, I'm more inclined to click on something I haven't
listened to, yea versus Spotify.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I know that sounds bad, but I'm like, I don't
know your bands.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Click the added element of the thumbnail.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Yeah, you see a brand new music video for anybody,
and and if it just looks interesting enough, you're.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Like, I want that. I want to say, I want
to know what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
But I'm a grandpa. I don't listen to anything past.
Like when I found my favorite bands. I have like
two thousand seven bands I listened to and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
List of music videos saved on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I mean nothing wrong with that. I know you guys
mentioned like some of your ideas and plans for the future,
so kind of I guess a little bit in closing,
what can we inspect from you? I guess towards the
end of the year and maybe, like you know, into
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the beginning of next year.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Right now, we've got two more shows the year.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, we have to think it's two more shows the
end of the year.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Nothing November, Yeah, nothing November at the moment, but we're
in December. We've got one locally and I think the
other one is Raleigh something like that. So we're to
play out the rest of the year. We've got a
new song in the works that actually coded just since
all of us that we we're gonna start playing with
and then tightening up and adjusting where it needs to be.
(43:00):
We'll hopefully continue to ride the little bit of a
wave of the Floor's going on into next year. We're
still working on getting the rest of the EP together
and that's where the second song will continue on from
where the Killing Floor started at.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Anything about that writing on that b.
Speaker 9 (43:22):
Yeah, I mean all I can say is just we'll
probably have like another song or two out before the end, before.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
The end of the year.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think that next one is is in the stages
of where we'd probably have it out at right around
we're playing those shows, So look forward to that coming soon.
We'll get the rest of those songs out probably by
the early of twenty twenty five, not super early, but
(43:50):
at some point, but we you want to try and
space them out effectively so that they're not crowding each
other in the stream, platforms and everything, but then they
can also work off the fact they're all kind of
connected in a way. Jess, you could probably speaking. But
some of our older stuff was a little bit more conceptual,
(44:12):
and these ones have a running theme, but it's not
really a conceptual It's not a concept EP or album
or whatever in that one.
Speaker 7 (44:23):
So yeah, I mean, it's the latest stuff is. I've
just been working on the mixing end of everything a
lot more. Cody's more of their hard writer lately, because
like you said, the first stuff we were doing was
a lot more concept based and a lot more worried
(44:45):
about like telling telling a story than making a good song.
And I think now I've gotten to the point where
I want to kind of do both. We want to
make we want to mix both of those elements. You
don't just you never want to leave too many details untold,
but you also don't want to leave everything on the face.
So it's like it's you gotta play the balance for sure.
(45:05):
And the mixing is just, uh, I've been working on
doing trying to trying to get that heavy sound without
pushing it too hard so that it ends up, you know,
sounding like garbage. Because some of our early stuff I
think I was pushing, pushing the envelope on on how
much you know or EQ and all this other stuff
(45:25):
that I didn't need to be doing and just access stuff.
And lately I've just been trying to back off on
overdoing it. Yeah, well you learn as you go, and
we're d I Y.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
Yeah, so you can tell a big difference between Dead
Leaves and the Killing Floor even though I.
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah, like we got we got the ones that we
love from from everything we've made. But it's you know,
it's you. It's a process. You got to continue to grow.
You can't you can't ever stagnate. You can't leave yourself
in a spot where where you feel too complacent.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
I do.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
However, whenever we get a chance, it's we have a lull.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
I want to get Sean on Dead Leaves because right
now it's Jesse.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Right yeah, so that that first ep has Jesse on
it because when I joined, they were just about to
release it and we could have re recorded it, but
it would have been a whole It was like two
weeks after that they were ready to release it, and
so I was like, yeah, just let's.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Let's run it with that.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
That's cool, and so the first the first EP is Jesse.
We would like to do a rerelease at some point,
and I think with that we would probably also do
a physical copy as well, and maybe a duel with
our other EP on that, so that way it's a
real value for what you're getting in the physical copy.
So maybe that within the next six months to a year.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That will see time we work on.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
But we're really happy with with how our sound has
progressed significantly, just with how we played, how we work together,
the flow that we've gotten. And then on top of it,
Jesse's stepped up leaps and bounds with his mixing and
everything's really done the effort to try and adjust things
and learn the right information so that what we're putting
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into the mix is correct so that when he has
all the back end stuff, just like with the video editing,
it's so much easier on that back end.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
But I do like the raw I like how like.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
When you're listening to modern metal now, it's all like
it's just super crisp, and it doesn't feel like like
it's coming at you, but you listen to something like, yeah,
maybe the mixing.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Is a little bit harsh, but you're like.
Speaker 8 (47:34):
Damn, this ship is hidden, like when you listen.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
To our music.
Speaker 7 (47:38):
Yeah, we've we've been doing everything we can to just
get it to hit everybody in the face the way
we wanted to, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So it really is all about that for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Well, guys, it has been so great talking with you
and getting to know you and hearing more about your
band and the things that you guys have going on
and what you have coming in the future. I've been
looking forward to this one for a while, So thank
you so much for coming on and hanging out with me.
I really appreciate your time. Thank you been great listeners.
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Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Peace Please
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode of the Missfit Minutes podcast.
I'm your host, of course, Jade. If you're new around here, welcome,
If you're not new around here, welcome back to the chaos.
So for this special episode, I have not one, not two,
not three, not but four excuse me, very special guests
with me. I have Cody, Jesse, Sean and Christian from
(00:23):
Bunker Hill Bloodbath. Welcome guys, what is up? How's you
guys this weekend? Ben?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Thank you Shabby. The show we had yesterday at Carolin
was a good.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Time to ask about that.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh yeah, Unfortunately I screwed up and did not bring
headphones for backing track.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So oh and we've all just decided that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
From time to time we we tend to do clicks
and backtracks and things that we can include our sound
bits and things like that in the song. But this
time we just went wrong with it. And there's so
much more like quote unquote raw energy in it. When
we don't have the computer keeping.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Us in tempo, it's very just let the hair down
and go with it.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Yeah yeah, Cody, Yeah, Cody definitely can just control how
heavy it gets essentially.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And that's really what it is like. Because we're working
off of his timing, it's and he's keeping the flow
of everything. He can really play with the empty spaces
and maybe drawing out a hole right before a build
up a little bit longer, and it just increased the anticipation.
Where I was thinking about this today, Actually, when we
(01:44):
have the track going, there's always that thing in the
back of your head that we got to stay in
the track. We always got to stay the track, and
so there's almost like a mental not like a rush,
but there's there's like a it's just a thing in
the back of your head that's always keeping you, of
course on time, but it it causes you to like
kind of rough I know, for me, for like bantering
(02:04):
between songs and things. You gotta push it because he's
got something coming, you know, and so the flow can
kind of be off where if we're not on it,
we're jumping back and forth, we can kind of communicate
a little bit better. We're not worried about this literal
timer in the back of our minds.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Yeah, and it worked out because where that guy fell,
we could just stop and we would have to be.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Like, okay, stop, Cody hit.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Like it was. Yeah, that would have been That would
have been way more of a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Definite.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We had the computer and somebody would.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Pass down, so people got knocked down and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, just pick out a little nuts and an old
gentleman got knocked down.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's okay, but didn't like it yet, pulled up too quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I don't think he was. I think he was walking
through the pit.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean that is.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Who I see both sides, because I've definitely been in
the pit and hit someone by accident that was not
part of the pit, and I was like, oh ship,
my bad. But I've been on the receiving end of that,
so like, I mean for me, like it's kind of
like dude from the movie Had To Train Your Dragon.
(03:22):
It's an occupational hazard. If you're going to be near
the pit, your you risk getting hit.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
So I think Jesse hit the ship out of me.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
One time we were watching some band play and he
just came flying across and I was just on the
edge because I don't usually get.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
A victim of Jesse.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
A few times if you're not hitting each other in
the band a.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Band, I mean, oh, I know I've seen you guys
play once, so I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I've seen you do it very very sparing, like very rarely.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
But yeah, yeah, sometimes I take a few drinks and
it just kind of adds on.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's that full it is, right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah. I remember seeing y'all play at Total Death Pest
and I remember being pretty blown away with the energy, honestly.
And I had never heard of y'all prior to that,
other than like, I think they had a playlist together
of like all the different bands, so I had heard
a couple of the songs, but other than that, I
never I had never seen y'all before. I was like, oh,
(04:46):
this will be interesting, and I have a video of
it on my TikTok like where y'all were performing, and
it was the energy was just there, Sean, you were
all over the place. I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You can't even se.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, I don't know. It's something about what these guys
play that just it really does take over me. When
we're playing live, it feels like, in a weird way
that I get the opportunity, even though they're they're pushing it,
I get to conduct in some form. That's why I
do a lot of the hand movements and things like that,
(05:23):
and I'm everywhere and all over the place on the stage.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
The vocalist of the band, you know, That's that's pretty
much the job of the vocalist's band, just be that
face of the band that you know, kind of carries
it and represents it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I just it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Really. If we were doing slower stuff, it would probably
be different. I would probably have an entirely different demeanor.
But I love the type of music that we make
is so influenced by the things that we all listen
to anyway, So it's just something that goes through me.
And I could be having the worst time right before
stay and in the case of me locking like Key's
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in my car, I was not having a great time
right before we got on, but the moment we hit
that first note, I cut it on and it was
ready to go and the It's just something that I've
tried to formulate on stage, not like a persona in
a way, but to emphasize as much as I can.
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Because they're already pushing out a thousand horsepower with their instruments,
I have to do that with my voice and with
my demeanor in some way in order to not be
the one stale fish on stage because if I didn't,
I would just be standing there screaming. And it was
so long.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Because I huge advancements in that.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, I would concentrate so much on like trying not
to mess up.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, I realized it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, because oftentimes they don't know where you're messing up.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's what my choir teacher used to tell me when
I was in chorus when I was in school. You'd
be like, listen, Honestly, half the time people don't even
know the whole all the lyrics to the song anyway,
So just go with it, and if you mess up,
just handle it as gracefully as you can and just
keep it moving, because I promise you they probably I
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don't know the words, and if they do, it's.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
Fine, especially if it's something brand new, because they've never
heard of it anyfore them. Yeah, they never heard it before,
so that mess up they could they that's just part
of the song.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, that's so funny that the one part where we
break it down right and the killing was like, for
the love of God, Cody give me.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But that's the whole boy being in the rhythm session
like that is that y'all work off each other so well. Yeah. Yeah, Actually,
interestingly enough, just throwing through TikTok, I saw a thing
that Bruce Springsteen was on interview talking about how because
he does, like he's four hour concerts, right, and they
constantly change up their set list, so there are rare
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times that a band that's been performing together for over forty.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Years will have a mess up.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And he's found that in the thousands of shows that
he's done, people are actually coming for an imperfect show
because to show that you can make it past that
little screw up and move on with the show and
it become more organic and it just flows right back
into the show.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
People enjoy that realness in that goof up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So I think it goes to show that a lot
of things that people get hung up on as musicians
is the perfection just to the point, a lot of
people really enjoy the realness of maybe a screw up
unless you're completely bombing on stage.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
But Yeah, what was good about Jesse and Cody is
if Cody messes up, he can just feel and hit
it right.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Back at Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Rarely, we rarely.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Mess up honestly, I feel, but especially Jesse, like he's
just he's such a good improv so if he hits
the wrong note, he can just slide into something.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
It sounds it sounds like it was supposed to be
like that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So yeah, yeah, I think that comes with just how
they play off of each other.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, oftentimes we're coming into practice they're just doing
crazy shit.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
They Jesse not train on a daily basis. You know,
we're we're constantly in here doing jam sessions, and it's
pretty much it's pretty much to the point where we're
not even doing jam sessions anymore. We're like writing full
songs just out of nowhere. Yeah, we uh, we get
in the groove.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
And then once you uh, once you find it, it's
like easy to set into. So even if you like
catch a quick mess up, you know you you've already
been uh you know, playing it so many times, you
just go right through it like it's nothing, and uh,
you know, nobody really, like you said, nobody pays attention
to them little nessas when you have a performance that
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has the high energy and the the heavy just.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Interface that we do high energy and craziness cushions and.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
And it's hardcore. We're not playing tracking.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
For yeah stuff, that's it's way more prevalent, it's way more.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Obvious for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, definitely. I guess in my like I said, in
my experience of just like dealing with with screw ups,
you just kind of handle it and just keep it moving,
which is cool. And so I know we touched on
seeing you guys at Total death Fest. So this is
(10:46):
kind of only m so don't judge me. But I
remember after this set, I was so impressed. I was
like being super cringe and was like, can I give
your spook loose? You're like someone I forget who it was,
but you were like, sure, you can go, and I
was like cool, thanks.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I was getting ready to ask.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I was getting ready to ask how often you guys
get you know, asked about you have your settlers or
can I have your drumstick or whatever?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The other show?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Every couple of shows.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
If it's a bigger show, it's far more likely it's got.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Every festival we've been to, someone like I wanted me
to sign their fate.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
They wanted us to sign the.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, they had to sign baits.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
They had a sign bottles. But I think, uh, I
gave drum sticks away and signed them.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, but we had a we had a big.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
For for me at least, I had a big moment.
Uh when on maybe it was like our second or
third time playing in Raleigh, and somebody came up and said,
you know, you guys are are my favorite band. Like
all the bands I listened to, you guys are the US,
And I'm like, we're you know, we we had only
been doing it for maybe a year at that point,
and it's just it was just a nice experience to
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know that people were listening to us that much that
we were their favorite already.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
You know seng Ayway is Halle costume wig yesterday?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was, Uh, I was fifty First Dates. I was
Gula from fifty First Dates.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Literally right after our set, I walked out with it
on stage. I couldn't keep it on, but I said
on my mic standing and immediately after the set, some kid.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Walks im, just after wig, you know what, dude, take
the wig.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't want to take you home.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, that's really funny.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
We've had a multitude of things and then of course
all the stuff that we've had at our merged table
that has uh been things with our face on it
ship like that. That's been fun. We had a goofy
picture of Jesse that we got at the first to.
Speaker 11 (12:59):
Man, they were gone, Yeah, he had Our friend Eli
got him a spencer's gift inflatable penis crown and uh,
and I edited it and made it fun and made
it a little more goofy, and then we made it
into like this shape of his head and I printed
out as a sticker and uh, I couldn't keep them
(13:22):
on the I wanted, but I need to pronounce more.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I still got the digitals, so I'll definitely pronounce some
more soon.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's really funny. Yes, that's funny. That's why what happens
when you're in a band, will take goofy pictures of
you and they use it for merch and stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I mean. And if we had access to, like being
able to do crazy prints on the shirts more effectively,
because we do all our own printing and everything for
our merch, if we had access to like some type
of graphic print situation that was reasonable, we would do insane,
ridiculous T shirts if we could. Uh, maybe one day,
(14:02):
but as of now, we're doing what we can. But
you'd be surprised at how much people like that ship. Yeah,
do small batch things, so it's something where we can
do fifteen to twenty and then if it sells, it sells.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
If not, we can kind of put it on the
back burn and rotate.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Things out, things eas Yeah, and they make a sailbox
like I like to do that. Yeah, ten dollars shirts
and everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Like exactly, I love me a good salebox and be
like ooh, this is a three x well, guess what
I'm wearing. This is a night shirt exactly. Or or
turn it into a crop top and just cut it off.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Well, I think some of like my most prized
like band related possessions is not even stuff that's like
was that was paid for. It was just stuff that
the band gave me. Like I have have a sign
it's up on my walls time, I'm looking up a
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signed poster from Exit Wounds that every member of the
band signed it and they were kind enough to do that.
They didn't have to, and they it's funny because they
searched for the silver sharpie for like twenty minutes and
they were I was like, guys, it really, it's okay.
You don't have to, and they were like, no, we've
started it. Two people have already signed the poster. We
got to get everybody to do it. And I was like, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Think bars and venues need to have just a pack
of silver sharpies online at all times because it is
the holy grail of sharpies at a show. Yeah, on
one you you are. You are the king of that night.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Everything's black yeah whatever, Yeah, from mark to sign stuff,
whatever it is. Those those silver sharpies are hard to find.
I need to have a pack myself.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I need to get a pack. I'm glad that I
mentioned that because I'm to get a pack for the
comic con.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
I go to become a productive podcast.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It really has, it really has. Yeah. I've got like
posters and different things. I've got autumnized. Buried gave me
a set of broken drumsticks that they get that it
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was from the first time I ever saw them, which
was really cool. I've got like some of the like
neatest looking stickers ever. I have one that it's from
a band that they're not active anymore, but it's like
a NASCAR theme. I'm not gonna say on camera what
it what all it says, but it has their little
on it and it has a funny phrase. It's a cool
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little sticker and it's like a it's like a I'm
trying to think of like the style of sticker. But
it goes on like your bumper. There we go. It
goes on your back bumper. It's a really cool it
can sticker. To show you, guys, leader, I have like
a I have a Christmas card from uh Lucy Speedball.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of them.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
But a.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Shout out, shout out Vinnie love you dude.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, I actually have one of the Lucy's Feedball set list.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh really nice.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I can't face poster.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, the three of us went and we waited till
after the show and everything. It was that NBT right yeah,
New Brook NBT before they moved, and god, that was
a good show.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I don't think I've been to a show with you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, well our shows.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Mm hmm those don't count.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah that's those shows. Yeah stuff Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, so signed, So where do you live exactly?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Some of that exclusive stuff for sure is definitely hard
to come by. Every time I say someone post about
I got the limited edition windbreaker, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Like, Darren, you's got that extra cash around like that?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Like someone was fussing about the prices of like merch,
like a few weeks ago, or maybe a couple of
days ago, I saw somebody share a meme about like
when did merch become eighty dollars? And and I was like,
because I'm friends with so many bands, I'm like, I mean,
I kind of get it, but also like.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Sure we keep our prices stupid low.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, they try to. It's something that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Me and Christian try and dissect because that is our
one of our biggest things about making money in the
band is the T shirts and merch and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
We're trying to come up with new ideas.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
That really started because we were we played with a
band called Turn Cold, and they had the most incredible
merch table I've ever seen, glasses, grinders, joints, T shirts, bags, posters,
they had the baseball bats from like you get from
the stadiums like.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Cold. But from there we.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Were like, we need to find and make merch that
is unique and that people are going to actually want
to buy more than just a black T shirt and
a hat. Maybe and some stickers or whatever. So we
started with the ridiculous glasses and stuff and.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, the pit well, but we do them ourselves.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, everything that comes off of our table handmade.
And that's where we try and make a point because
we can save some of that money on our front end. Uh,
we're able to keep our shirts at a little bit
lower the price, I would say comparatively to everyone else
that's throwing twenty five thirty five dollars on a shirt
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because they got to make their money, but they're paying
up front.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Have that to get it made.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Our most expensive is our hoodie and it's forty dollars.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That's that's reasonable.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, so big, yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I think when it gets to like.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like finger hoodie is about fifty sixty
bucks or yeah, and then you get in the windbreakers
and ship like that, you're talking eighty two three figures.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So I mean, it's it's something that we try.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
And and work on and change and with able to
do small stuff, we can if something doesn't work, we
just move to the next thing. And we don't have
this crazy backstock or we didn't pay this crazy upfront
price to already plus shirts or whatever.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
And then they not sell. So we just got to
do the work.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that part is sitting there over the heat
press and all that stuff and the ink and everything,
but it comes out.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'm very proud of what we've designed and what we
put together and everything. I mean, everything that we've put
on the table and come up with has all been
in house. We've come up with designs, we've put it together,
try to figure out how to do it, do it
the most logistic way possible, and then actually execute it
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and it comes out in being better prices on the
table for anyone listening.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
If you need easy quick shirts for bands, hit up Sean.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yea, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, we've slowly built up. We don't have the perfect
set up, but we've slowly built up machines and things
and heaters. Have to try and do it the most
effective way possible, because what I found is that it
really is a system, and if you screw up that system,
you get covered and paint like legit. I will have,
(22:27):
I have, I will go through a whole roll of
paper towels if I don't keep the system coming, and
then you worry about getting it on the clothing and
it's a whole mess, it really is, but we do it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
That's what we got to do.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
We try not to pay fifteen twenty dollars for tab
a shirt made and then sell it for five dollars profit. Yeah,
and that's just that's incredibly disheartening, especially when you're working
as a musician with not a whole lot of money.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We're putting all this investment in from our own pockets.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
It feels a lot better and a lot more gratifying
to say we made this from scratch almost and someone
bought it. It's such a more gratifying thing. It's quite
literally like people are buying your artwork on a regular basis.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
It's so cool and we had a couple of moments
and it gives us making our owners, gives us the
leeway where we.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Had like a kid come up to the table.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
You're like, man, I don't got twenty, I got ten.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, And I'm like, well we okay, yeah, we're not
a couple of bucks on it. And now you have
something to support us, and that means so much more
to us than that few extra dollars. Like the fact
that you wear that around now and have eyeballs on
our name. At least, it's so much more important than
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the few dollars that we made or that we lost.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So yeah, being in being in a band, for sure,
there's that there's always that balance of like wanting your
name out there, wanting people to see you and see
your stuff and everything, and you know, building up your
band because essentially a band is kind of like a business.
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So and it's and like I used to hate that mentality.
I used to be like, oh, man, bands are supposed
to be fun. And I kind of like started hanging
around more people in bands and I was like, Okay, yeah,
this makes more sense. So like there's a there's obviously,
or for me personally, it's like a balance between treating
it like a business but also having fun and you know,
(24:31):
having those heartwarming, meaningful moments with your fans because those
are the things that are going to make them want
to support you more.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
For sure, I don't like being traveling t shirts salesman's
But what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's an element because of the nature of music and
business as a whole. The actual songs themselves, back in
the day used to be the bread and butter. That's
how you would make your money is those straight up
physical records. So now that everything's just streaming, the only
way that you can make your money is with still
with physical things other than straight up concerts and shows
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and things like that. But when you're in a small
venue and things and there's a seventy thirty split on
the door and things like that, with the venue, there's
not a lot of room to be making money. So
when you factor in that a twenty dollars merch shirt
is the equivalent of five thousand Spotify streams in terms
(25:27):
of revenue. The physical stuff still wins out. It's just
now that and if we have physical copies, oh my god,
even better. And we're working on that at some point,
but yeah, we'll definitely want to do that in the
next couple of months or so. But with the physical stuff,
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it's tangible. It makes it worth it. People see the
songs themselves. They're basically as advertisements. They're there to show
that we made this and that it's enjoyable and that
you enjoys as a band. But for us to make
our money other than the fun part of it is
the physical stuff. Yeah, getting gold records like that, So
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we're not one hundred thousand sell sold copy. Yeah, and
for whatever, even if you did have a record or wind,
I can't just sell one song for twenty dollas.
Speaker 12 (26:26):
Yeah, thankfully, Jesse and Cody they do do a the
lion's share of the writing of the music, so thankfully
they can make really good.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Songs and then we can all collaborate on them.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So we can sell shirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, songs of
the advertisements for the shirts.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And speaking of amazing, wonderful good songs, you guys, I
don't remember if we touched on it earlier, but on
October fourth, you guys had the Killing four come out,
so I would curious about. First of all, great song.
I like it. It's been on the playlist for a
hot minute. The video for it was a great as well.
(27:09):
I was curious about the lighting for the video. It
kind of reminded me of the Man in the Box
video from Allison Chains, like a little bit, not not
nearly the same lighting, but like that grainy kind of
like yeah, almost like old. It was meant like it
(27:29):
was meant to look old, but it looks really good.
I liked it, So I was curious about how how
y'all made that work.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
It's interesting you said me in the box, because none
of us even thought about that, but that that does
for all those comparisons a bit. We were actually really
inspired by h two different Pantara videos.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Okay it's alone and.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm broken, we're two big ones.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And then in terms of the actual lighting itself that
that blue tent situation was actually put on a post
but with Christian's wife had some ring lights that we
put up and and just got the right angle so
we didn't get too much Claire in anything, and then
just work on getting the camera angles that we wanted,
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make sure we shot it in the best resolution that
we could, and then and then a lot of it.
I didn't do a lot of editing posts because.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I didn't do the editing for the video, but.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It was once I got everything aspect ratio and framed,
it was as simple as putting on a proper effect
and then adjusting everything that I wanted it.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I did a.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Couple color corrections and things, but ultimately a lot of
it was done on the initial trying to make sure
we didn't have light washing us out while we're filming,
because that's it so impacts the difference.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
In how things are shot and how much the cam.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Actually picks up and how much things are oversaturated and stuff.
So we tried to go from the initial and then
that way that my part of the editing was so
much easier.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Well, I have to say, Sean didn't just edit. He
pretty much did the whole thing. Like I have to
give my man credit over here, because I just brought
the gear.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, we just showed up.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Most mostly the three of us just kind of showed
up to the spot. Sean had everything set up for
the video, and we just we just did the performance
the way that we the best way we.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Could for the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I think I'm a very visual person and so in
the same way that the music kind of flows through
me on stage, I sit and pontificate about how this
would look visually and being inspired by things like the
Pantera videos.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Which I enjoyed a lot, because like, for.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Instance, the camera angle of the fret board in the
music video was directly pulled from from those music videos.
And at least I think I'm broken as the one.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean we discussed the video, uh like that,
those kind of aspects and how we wanted what we
wanted to pull beforehand, but just showing like the this
general filming of the idea was all like.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think I'm decent logistics, so I can go, well,
what we need to accomplish, this is what we need
to do to accomplish it. And then from there it's
just making sure I communicate that effectively with these three
so that we can show down camera.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
So and we did have a lot more control over
this video.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, last video we had somebody else to write
for us. So it's just it's easy. It's a little
easier when you're when you're doing your own thing to
just be like, this is you know, this is what's
in our head. Let's just let's just place that down
and see how we we can do it. And uh,
just if you have somebody who's just decently experienced with
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camera work, you can make a lot of a lot
of stuff stand out.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
There is a difference between professional cameras and phones iPhones.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Yeah, on cameras crazy iPhone.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
So yeah, yeah, we did get a steady cam, so
we tried upgrade the equipment just a little bit. But
I think it just goes to show that I mean,
in no way about it is a perfect music video,
but We probably spent fifty bucks total, including buying that
steady cam to make this video happen. The garage was
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my friend Nick's house and he was also helping with
camera stuff. That was his car in the video.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Uh so we really got.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Lucky with having having a set already out the gate
ready to go. And then we've had so much media
stuff that we've collected over the years that really the
only thing that really was missing was a high end
camera or whatever. But unfortunately, these these newer iPhone can
do a decent job, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, cameras nowadays are crazy. Like I don't take professional
photos at shows because a I don't have a professional
camera and be you know, kind of broke, so don't
have one. But I've taken fairly decent photos with my phone,
(32:29):
which I recently got a newer phone. But even the
phone that I had before this one, I had the
Samsung Galaxy Note and that one took fairly decent photos.
In this one, the Samsung Galaxy twenty three f E. Yeah,
(32:49):
that even that takes good photos and videos as well.
So I kind of go back and forth about like
camera call and such, because like you want it to
look good, but then at the same time you're like,
I can do so much with what I have. Absolutely,
you know, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
There's no denying what those high resolution cameras can do.
I mean some of the even if you look at
just file size themselves, the files themselves have far more
capacity to them because it's such a higher resolution that
you can zoom in on things and tighten up. And
so when I was editing, I was limited to how
much I could zoom in without blurring the image out
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like crazy, because I didn't have an insane amount of
resolution I would have with a four K high end camera.
But again it's that thing of working with what you got.
So I did it to what I could I limited space.
You try and emphasize things I've noticed when you're editing
or when you're producing or directing a certain scene or
(33:53):
shot that you if you focus on a lot of uh,
everything going around, it can kind of complicate the scene.
So if you tighten it up on one specific thing,
as long as it's not too much, it can tell
the story with steps rather than a whole scene like
(34:15):
a play.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
So and in that you're able to use.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
A camera with a lower resolution a little more effectively
if you're doing it in the physical sense of quite
literally putting that partly shot in but pulling it in
from a wide shot. I'm getting really technical about I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Mean, it's it's neat stuff though, like I I mean,
I'm not an expert by any means, but it's neat
stuff to see what people can create and do with cameras.
I've seen, you know, like different music videos from not
even like big big bands, but from like smaller bands
that don't have like huge budgets and stuff, and the
(34:58):
video still turn out really cool. So I think one
of my favorites is it's not really like a fairly
huge technical video that I'm aware of anyway, but the
video for Full Sin from Within is just hilarious. The
shots are really funny.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, their their personality in their band. Yeah, I think
that's what's perfect about it. I Mean, we've interacted those
guys a lot, and everything that is their band I
think shows out in that video, and that's what makes
it a good video.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's a little window into their world.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Even though they were acting and doing the whole thing
of it, they really showed themselves and that's that's what
was great about it.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You're in a band, you don't have to spend three
grands on the video, like just playing in d I Y.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
You can do it.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
There's a lot of the video making aspect, but you know,
the other half of the music video is the music.
The music has been getting even more you know heavy.
I think each time we dropped something, it feels like
there's a heav more you know, stronger anticipation. People are
getting ready to to listen to something new from us.
And then this time it just felt like we had
(36:19):
a lot of build up before the video and you know,
just letting everybody know we had something big on the
way this time. So and it really showed. It plasted
our expectations honestly, of how how much the reaction was
going to be pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
So I didn't find out about it later and I
was really mad. I was like the algorithm.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Being like the main poster in the band. It is
such like a thing in the back of your head
of like it is like a gatekeeper in a way,
because it will not put you in front of people,
even though they follow you and stuff like that. It
just falls to me people their feet gets is crazy
and so I'll get likes from things three days later
(37:13):
on stuff from people, and I'm like, what in the world,
this doesn't make any sense. Even though it got it
spiked the day I posted it, I'm getting residual random
things a couple of days later, So that algorithm is
a demon.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, we're really happy with how the the response that
we got from the music video there was definitely more
than I anticipated on the initial It doubled our first
video in terms of views. It was he less than that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, it was crazy and well did it continue to grow?
Speaker 10 (37:55):
Man?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It What we found through our artists thing is that
it's recommended on a bunch of really cool videos. So
like the the recommended tab that you see somebody be
listening to this huge band and thels right there. It's
that's even cooler to me.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yeah that's you know, it's the list of show and
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And they might even be bands that are like similar
to us exactly, but they'll be like in the heavy
metal or mar and YouTube just recommends it. And so
I think we're gonna try and push YouTube honestly a
lot more in these next couple of months in terms
of just trying to grow our platform and everything because
(38:44):
just at random spikes from YouTube that I didn't expect.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Amount of people actually listening.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
To YouTube pop.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's kind of kind of an untapped
market in some way.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Men sitting on YouTube and just kind of vibe and
just clicking on stuff. It's almost almost better than listening
to stuff on like Spotify or whatever, just because like
you're seeing the visual of the thumbnail for the video
and you're like, huh, I wonder what that's about, and
you know, you're clicking on it, and you know, like
you said, like the recommended tab is really nice too,
(39:22):
because then you're listening to stuff that's kind of sort
of similar or might not be exactly what you were
just listening to, but still really cool.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That's probably part of it too.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
The people see our thumbnail and see Sean being that
that angry face and that.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It feels weird sometimes to be the quote unquote face
of something or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
But when they say that, but.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
I did. I wasn't the one that posted with my
face on it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
But I was surprised that at first, but.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Like it was one of like even looking through it, it
was one of the recommended thumbnails from YouTube and I'm like,
that's just that's just it's right there, and I went
ahead and use it. Yeah, it's like right there, right
there from from you. It's like they knew, they knew
it was going to be the best one for people
to people to click on.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, because other than that, it's gonna be those ridiculous
thumbnails where it's like huge wording and the ridiculous faces
and people like.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Yeah, our first video thumbnail was just the name of
the song. Was that people people weren't weren't clicking on
the video just based based on the thumbmail. You know,
It's like that, it's like just had the name. So yeah,
not as not as enticing. I think, you know, it
was interesting. You make that point because I.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Did that with uh play his play through video the
other day and its views.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Were nowhere near Yeah it was. I think that is
a valid point.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
No one wants to watch a base place yea.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Even still with the I think the alurithm may recognize
the words and on the screen or whatever, and it
looks really simple and playing and so they don't bump
it like they would something that has a person on it.
It shows that it might be an interesting video.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Yeah, people are seeing it when they're when they're clicking
through their other you know, big bands that they like.
Which is which is a major contributor to our viewership,
is just having having our stuff pop up in them
and then recommendations.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Plus on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Personally, I'm more inclined to click on something I haven't
listened to, yea versus Spotify.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I know that sounds bad, but I'm like, I don't
know your bands.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Click the added element of the thumbnail.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
Yeah, you see a brand new music video for anybody,
and and if it just looks interesting enough, you're.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Like, I want that. I want to say, I want
to know what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
But I'm a grandpa. I don't listen to anything past.
Like when I found my favorite bands. I have like
two thousand seven bands I listened to and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
List of music videos saved on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I mean nothing wrong with that. I know you guys
mentioned like some of your ideas and plans for the future,
so kind of I guess a little bit in closing,
what can we inspect from you? I guess towards the
end of the year and maybe, like you know, into
(42:28):
the beginning of next year.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Right now, we've got two more shows the year.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yeah, we have to think it's two more shows the
end of the year.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Nothing November, Yeah, nothing November at the moment, but we're
in December. We've got one locally and I think the
other one is Raleigh something like that. So we're to
play out the rest of the year. We've got a
new song in the works that actually coded just since
all of us that we we're gonna start playing with
and then tightening up and adjusting where it needs to be.
(43:00):
We'll hopefully continue to ride the little bit of a
wave of the Floor's going on into next year. We're
still working on getting the rest of the EP together
and that's where the second song will continue on from
where the Killing Floor started at.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Anything about that writing on that b.
Speaker 9 (43:22):
Yeah, I mean all I can say is just we'll
probably have like another song or two out before the end, before.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
The end of the year.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think that next one is is in the stages
of where we'd probably have it out at right around
we're playing those shows, So look forward to that coming soon.
We'll get the rest of those songs out probably by
the early of twenty twenty five, not super early, but
(43:50):
at some point, but we you want to try and
space them out effectively so that they're not crowding each
other in the stream, platforms and everything, but then they
can also work off the fact they're all kind of
connected in a way. Jess, you could probably speaking. But
some of our older stuff was a little bit more conceptual,
(44:12):
and these ones have a running theme, but it's not
really a conceptual It's not a concept EP or album
or whatever in that one.
Speaker 7 (44:23):
So yeah, I mean, it's the latest stuff is. I've
just been working on the mixing end of everything a
lot more. Cody's more of their hard writer lately, because
like you said, the first stuff we were doing was
a lot more concept based and a lot more worried
(44:45):
about like telling telling a story than making a good song.
And I think now I've gotten to the point where
I want to kind of do both. We want to
make we want to mix both of those elements. You
don't just you never want to leave too many details untold,
but you also don't want to leave everything on the face.
So it's like it's you gotta play the balance for sure.
(45:05):
And the mixing is just, uh, I've been working on
doing trying to trying to get that heavy sound without
pushing it too hard so that it ends up, you know,
sounding like garbage. Because some of our early stuff I
think I was pushing, pushing the envelope on on how
much you know or EQ and all this other stuff
(45:25):
that I didn't need to be doing and just access stuff.
And lately I've just been trying to back off on
overdoing it. Yeah, well you learn as you go, and
we're d I Y.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
Yeah, so you can tell a big difference between Dead
Leaves and the Killing Floor even though I.
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah, like we got we got the ones that we
love from from everything we've made. But it's you know,
it's you. It's a process. You got to continue to grow.
You can't you can't ever stagnate. You can't leave yourself
in a spot where where you feel too complacent.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
I do.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
However, whenever we get a chance, it's we have a lull.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
I want to get Sean on Dead Leaves because right
now it's Jesse.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Right yeah, so that that first ep has Jesse on
it because when I joined, they were just about to
release it and we could have re recorded it, but
it would have been a whole It was like two
weeks after that they were ready to release it, and
so I was like, yeah, just let's.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Let's run it with that.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
That's cool, and so the first the first EP is Jesse.
We would like to do a rerelease at some point,
and I think with that we would probably also do
a physical copy as well, and maybe a duel with
our other EP on that, so that way it's a
real value for what you're getting in the physical copy.
So maybe that within the next six months to a year.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That will see time we work on.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
But we're really happy with with how our sound has
progressed significantly, just with how we played, how we work together,
the flow that we've gotten. And then on top of it,
Jesse's stepped up leaps and bounds with his mixing and
everything's really done the effort to try and adjust things
and learn the right information so that what we're putting
(47:07):
into the mix is correct so that when he has
all the back end stuff, just like with the video editing,
it's so much easier on that back end.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
But I do like the raw I like how like.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
When you're listening to modern metal now, it's all like
it's just super crisp, and it doesn't feel like like
it's coming at you, but you listen to something like, yeah,
maybe the mixing.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Is a little bit harsh, but you're like.
Speaker 8 (47:34):
Damn, this ship is hidden, like when you listen.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
To our music.
Speaker 7 (47:38):
Yeah, we've we've been doing everything we can to just
get it to hit everybody in the face the way
we wanted to, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So it really is all about that for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Well, guys, it has been so great talking with you
and getting to know you and hearing more about your
band and the things that you guys have going on
and what you have coming in the future. I've been
looking forward to this one for a while, So thank
you so much for coming on and hanging out with me.
I really appreciate your time. Thank you been great listeners.
(48:15):
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Speaker 5 (48:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Peace Please
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