"I Miss the Days When..." Elijah Interview

Steve, Beau and Ryan from the band Elijah talk up the band's mottos, beliefs and fond memories while mapping out what's next for them as a group.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up? Guys, Welcome back to another episode of
the Misfit Minutes Podcast. I'm your host, of course, Jade.
If you know around here, welcome. If you're not around here,
welcome back to the chaos. So for today's episode, I
have not one, not two, but three very special guests
with me. I have Steve, Bo and Ryan from the
band Elijah.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome, guys, Thank you, thank you, yeah, thanks, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Absolutely, thank you guys for coming on. We've been talking
a little bit kind of about how your weekend has been,
a couple of you doing some yard work. Book it's ribs.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, sounds like very much. So we're pretty we're pretty old,
normal people.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
So.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Normal stretch man.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hey, I mean, what's what's huh?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
What is?

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm the oldest one by a couple of months. I'll
be forty in May.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's not old. My buddy Chrissy who uh you know
he's been in some shows. You guys have met him.
He's yeah, that dude just just turned fifty six the
other day. You have no idea and still show. Yeah,
he's still hanging in there. But you know, there's a
good metric to Yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
A there's a gentleman that I can't remember if he
owns the building. So if you're listening to this, Donnie,
I apologize. But he frequents a venue here in Virginia
called Granny's, and he has been there the last couple
of times that I have been there. Super sweet guy.
He goes there and he rocks out with all the

(01:36):
young'ins and he's the older due he's got to be
in his probably seventies and still still comes to show,
still supports the local scenes and nice and everything. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a really nice guy too. So shout out Donnie,
and shout out the folks over at Granny's. Love that
not to make it back up there soon. Everything's so

(01:57):
far away.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
From me, though, where is that located?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I'm in Virginia and I live in like the
Alta Vista area this venue is in. It's like three
hours away from me. It's like two or three hours
away from me.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's still in Virginia. I didn't think it was that big.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, I mean pretty much every venue ever except for
the one, the one in Lynchburg, and even that's about
to be moved and I don't know where. Pretty much
everything is like at least two hours away from me.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So is that like Richmond or something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, Richmond, Virginia Beach. That's like what and a half
hours of Yeah, and well there was a venue in
Charlottesville which is only like hours to change away from me,
but then they stopped doing shows, so you know how
that goes.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean it's it's tough for venue is right now.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So yeah, i mean it's it's hard because I mean
you got a just booking shows and running the shows,
finding bands to play the shows, you know, and all
of that kind of stuff, and then you run the
risk of if it's a small venue of like you know,
people getting hurt, knocking stuff over, you know, run the

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whole the risk of all that kind of stuff going on.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
You're gonna have bands drop out of shows all the time.
We've multiple times.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, people will just being like that rhyme can't play now.
And yeah with the bill.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
We just we need to go back to the old
the old plan where you know, if something like that
goes down there there was a baseball bat incident at
a local venue here years and years and years ago.
But you know that's when you just drop whoever is
promoting those shows, and then you switch it quickly to
a different company. Somebody else just steps in. You see,

(03:57):
you start going that way again.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Our so our very first show last year, last fall,
the I won't I won't say names or anything. The
headlining band, uh, like a week and a half before
the show, decided that they weren't going to play shows anymore.
So that the show that was supposed to be our
first show with like a big, a big band that

(04:22):
we were going to open for. Yeah, yeah, somehow somehow
we got and and one of the other bands dropped
out because that band dropped out, So somehow we we
got thrown into the headline position on our first show,
and then like two of the bands came on like

(04:43):
a week before the show.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
It was a whole It was a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
But not even it was like days. Actually it all
came together great too. It was you know, we.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Made it work, but it was it was rough.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
For a first show. It turned the turnout it was
really nice.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, well that's good that.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
You know, it was a good turnout at least, and
you know got you guys got a lot of that
that word that everybody hates, exposure.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, but I mean that all that
is to say, though, you know, it's nice to see
like the scene is still there, like you just kind
of it's one of those things that's you know, it's
funny enough. So we're from Indianapolis, right, We're in the
middle of Indiana kind of nobody. I feel like most
people in the country were the flyover state, right, but
you know the fact that like people say, like, oh,

(05:36):
I'm gonna move to Indiana or whatever. What what's cool
about it? And you know, I love it and it's special,
and I'm like, you just got to look for cool
things harder than in other places, like even in Virginia,
you know, like everything's flat here, like we don't have hills.
Like if you want to find hills, you actually have
to go look for them, but they're there. It's kind

(05:56):
of the same thing I think in like a lot
of scenes right now.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Right, Yeah, that's a really interesting and pretty accurate and
all honestly nice.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Just yeah, you know, it's the stupid things I think
about while I'm driving around in my truck.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
It worked for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, hey, there's definitely a lot of a lot
of pitten gems and different things hidden within the scene.
You kind of have to look for it for sure.
So but again back to you guys a little bit.
So you played your first show last year. I'm glad
that it turned out decent for all intense purposes. Yeah,

(06:36):
what have things been like since then?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Things have been great. We recorded, uh, we recorded an
EP uh and finally released it, probably finished releasing it
in I.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Think or June or June this year, and.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Then uh, we switched producers up and we started recording
with I don't know if you remember, there was a
there was a metalcore band back in like the two
thousands called a Marna Raine and their guitarist Bone has
been recording our past two songs that we just released,

(07:17):
Illusion and Curses, and we've just been getting great feedback
from the production side of things and just like the
quality of the song. So we're we're like thrilled for
these songs coming out and uh, yeah, this this year
has been really really good to us in terms of

(07:40):
again I don't like to use the exposure word, but
in terms of you know, people finding us and digging
our music, and we're really thankful for people just getting
us a listen.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean you know, as we kind of make
the joke like the exposure like doesn't pay, but it
kind of does so because the more people that you
know see your stuff and interact with it, then you know,
of course you get thrown into the algorithms all that one,
messy stuff. Yeah, you get more people interested in your
music some of the shows and then and you're on

(08:15):
your way.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
It's kind of crazy. When we released h the EP,
one of the singles was called Ignite and within the
first week we were looking at our Spotify, uh, the
Spotify artist account to kind of like see like you know,
who's listening to it whatnot, and it blew up in
the Netherlands. Out of the Netherlands became like the number
one listener of Elijah and they were like they're like

(08:40):
a thousand listens in like two days, and what is
going on over there, like like, how in the world
are you finding us?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
So yeah, yeah, again it was it was a good,
good source that you were again right, exposure, Like I mean,
it's just it was cool that like, you know, a
place at number one and a lot of us like
as metal heads are like, oh, that's kind of almost
the Holy Land in a way, like the fact that
they're over there digging us. Oh, or was it the
nether Was it Iceland? Was it Iceland or the Netherlands?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
It was neither Finland or something like that. Netherlands and
Finland were like our big ones on that like uh
playlist or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Which is so weird.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Don't You don't think about that scene being prevalent over
there for you know, but just cool little things like
that have happened, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I think the last time I haven't checked our analytics
in that aspect in quite a while, but I remember
a few months ago checking and we had like a
bunch of listens from like I think it was South
America and we're like that threw me for a loop.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I was like, what interesting invested? You know, like one
of those things where you like did just just the
right band or something or the right you know, person
from a band or something and just just caught on
down there. I mean, it's so funny to see like
those pockets, like I think we have like a you know,
decent amount of listeners from like Australia to at one

(10:12):
point just just kind of weird random little spots like that.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
It's so crazy because like fifteen years ago, like local bands,
they you know, you'd start in your local pocket and
it would just kind of continue to expand. And now
like when you release music, it just like pops up,
pops up just around the world, and you just see
these little pockets open up where people are listening to
you a lot, and you're like, that's pretty rad.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, speaking kind of like of local bands and how
things used to be, I wasn't really I guess technically
around for this, but some coworkers and I were talking
about MySpace and they were talking about how it was
so much different than Facebook is now. I think something

(11:00):
weird happened with Facebook, and they were like, oh, this
thing used to happen on MySpace, and I was like, yeah,
probably not because it was a lot different, but I
know for like for music purposes, it was a lot.
It was vastly different.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, MySpace was like the that was our era, the heart, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
The Heart and soul of like all the scene back
then was MySpace, Like that was that was it. You know,
you had like your MySpace profile where you had your
favorite songs on there, and you basically had to learn
how to HTML code and uh just do all kinds
of crazy stuff to it. But that was like if
you were if you were in a band, or you

(11:43):
need to define music, that that was it. That was
everything back then, and it was just kind of kind
of funny, Like Facebook was just kind of starting up,
and it was just like nothing compared to what was
going on in MySpace.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It was really fun.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, and I think I think the thing that like
help the most with that, honestly, and again I have
thought about this within the last month or two, honestly
while I've been driving around. You know, it was the
embedded players. Yeah, that like really did it for them.
And then also the whole top eight or top ten
or whatever it was feature, because all the bands would

(12:20):
then list other bands that they were playing with or
that they really respected.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Or whatever favorite music.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
That was how you found everybody. And then you went
to B three dot com and downloaded the one or
two tracks they had there for free.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Was the days hanging out with my mom while she
was using the family computer to burn CDs and was like,
don't move, don't move a muscle, you'll mess up the
dial up connection.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Don't Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
We'd be like, Mom, we want to play on the computer.
We want to play Life or Organ Trail or whatever.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was fun back then, trying
to trying to download music on dial up and take
all night to download one.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Song actually your parents' computer.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Well yeah, just blow it up, yep. I once tied up.
I tied up our phone line once to download a
rom of uh Pokemon like to the game Boy. It
was a yellow edition before it came out here. I
somehow came across it as like a seven year old

(13:32):
and decided I was going to do this, and I
somehow managed to keep the line clear for eight and
a half hours and downloaded it. I probably cost my
parents a fortune and money to do that, and it
didn't but well well it would have been, but I
was also too young to realize I had needed a
separate program to even play it.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, fun stuff.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Like that's almost as funny as people not understanding, like
you know, fifty, uh what fifteen to twenty years ago
when you had a cell phone. Even though you had
a cell phone, it was hey, don't call me until
after like eight o'clock because that's when my minutes are unlimited.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So I had a track phone when I first got
when I got my first phone, So I remember that
and having to get the little card and yeah and
put your minutes back on it. I had this weird
after the track phone. I had this weird looking little
oyster like phone. I think it was like a Virgin
mobile phone. It was white and it had a little
black circle in the middle of it was a flip phone,

(14:34):
and that thought it was the coolest thing ever. Oh yeah,
my brother got the what was it, the motor razor. Yeah,
and then he became the coolest thing ever, and I
was like, what I want one of those.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I had a I had a pink Motoro razor.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Got scene core over there.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, remember my side phone and the ones that split down,
And then I had the keyboard inside it and then
it was a touchscreen.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Dude, if you had a razor and you were in
the scene, you were cool as hell. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I had one of the Sony phones that like, yeah,
like you said, it like spun out sideways and the
like had a whole like cordy keyboard underneath it.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, it was it was flicking that out like a
gangster or something.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
It was.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Also, it had it had two hundred and fifty six
megabytes of storage, and that was like ridiculous at the time.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well back then, the uh, the Razor.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
The fun thing about that was like it had that
tiny little screen on the front of it that you
could program to have like pictures pop up if somebody
called you. And for some reason, that was just like
the coolest thing back then, like because there was nothing
like it, right, and you could play like really bad
quality m P three's.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I remember recording songs from the radio as so that
I didn't have to pay for getting a ring tone,
and it would just sound like the most garbled you
could barely understand it, like it's my song.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And now if one of our phones were to ring
and it's just started blasting out like whatever kind of
song it was, with no discredit. You know, you can
assign ring tones out, but if it started making noise
like that, I feel like all of us would be horrified. Yeah,
Like my phone is forever on silent, nobody wants to
hear that.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
I remember my old singer his voice message or his
voice mailbox, uh like answering thing or whatever was him
singing Fallout Boy into his phone and so like if
you call. If you called him and he didn't answer,
you know, went right to voicemail, and you just hear

(16:44):
him singing just one of the like he had like
two or three different ones he ended up doing throughout
the course of it, but it was always like a
fallout boy song and him him like singing it just
ridiculously over the top.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Can we bring that back? Like, like to anybody that's
listen to this podcast and all of us here, now,
can we can we just start doing that again?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
At this point, it's really funny because at this point
you're lucky if anybody like puts their name in the
in the you know, message thing for it, like most time,
it just like it is not available, like doesn't even
or does the phone number?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh true, Yeah, we're all boring there.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
My brother had the it would pick up, it would
act like he was answering the phone, but then the
voicemail Hello, hey, what you need. Oh by the way,
I can't come to the phone right now, so leave
a message, ha gotcha, And then it would hang up
and like, oh my the words.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah yeah, that was the funny one.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I think, like I got I got hit with that,
like once or twice, and then like after that, everybody,
every time I called somebody, I treated it like the
same way I do when I can tell it's like
a it's it's like an auto caller right now, Like
you just sit there like waiting for it, and then it,
you know, clicks clicks again, and you're like, that's what
I thought.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
My my best friend growing up, still a good friend
of mine. His dad wrote radio jingles. He worked for
like the local like a couple of different local radio
stations here in Indianapolis, and he would always have like
an elaborate like you know, it's it sounded like one
of the pre recorded ones that the people used to
buy in the nineties where it's a good joke voicemail thing.

(18:24):
But it was him and his family like doing it
like weird al versions of songs stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I kind of I feel like I should get his
number and like try and call it. See if he
still does that. I bet he does.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Have him make us an intro track.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
That'd be really funny. You can do like a like
an icenam Kills kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, oh you're speaking Bow's language. That's that's one of
his favorite bands.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
They they do it for I don't know why, but
they give it.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Is like I'm trying to think of how to them.
They're like, like Emo showed.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
You Like it's yeah, actually I heard you say. I
also listened to one of the episodes earlier and you
said that. I think a couple of episodes back, like
a Metal Court episode. I can't remember the title. It
was off the top of my head, but no, you did.
You did say that, And honestly, that's the most apt
description I've ever seen or heard. Rather, I won't.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Take credit for it. I've probably heard it somewhere and
just remembered it. But yeah, that's a I mean, that's
what they remind me of, which it's pretty neat and
clearly they're doing something right.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's tie it back to Indy. Also, Eistein kills Kurt
Vonnegut reference hometown hero Kirkvone Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Is that Yeah, I didn't realize that's where it came from.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's Kirkvonnagut reference. Also, I don't know if
you guys, maybe I don't mean to be you know,
we're on a podcast right now, but just a shout
out to old friend Sam Kirby. He was a local soundtech,
used to do stuff with the Emmerson all the time.
He's I believe their tour manager or he's somehow affiliated.
He's been with them since they really got going. Uh

(20:05):
he's been Yeah, he's been touring forever. I think he's
still with him if I'm if I'm not mistaken. So somehow,
if Sam here's this, I guess shout out to you, dude,
like a dream come true.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Honestly, we were kind of drifted down memory and lane
a little bit and I thought about this. So I'm curious.
Since you guys are just a little bit older than me,
I'm curious do you remember like your first show that
you ever went to and how it kind of affected you.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'll just keep mind short and sweet. These guys have
heard the story before. But you know, uh, we play
metal cores. We kind of bo refers to it as
MySpace Corps sometimes. Uh, but you know, Hase the Day
Hometown Heroes. That was actually my first show was their
EP release before they were signed. It's my first metal show.
I convinced my parents to let me go because I'm

(20:59):
like a Christian rock band.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I was at that show.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Them and then also another local, the Bowels of Judas,
who did not get as far as they should have.
We're both on that changed my life. But yeah, what
about you guys.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
It's Green Day for me. My parents took me to
a Green Day show when I was six years old,
and I still remember that's like my maries to this day.
It was they just put out Duchie and they were
doing a like a nationwide tour and they came through
our our hockey coliseum, it was the Pepsi Coliseum, and

(21:38):
I got to see my i think my nine year
old sister at the time, crowdsurfing.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, so it was pretty rad.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go out crazy here.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
So I didn't really like my My mom's side of
the family was extremely religious, and so outside of like
whatever Christian concert uh they were going to that I
didn't really go to ever. My first actual show was
in Vegas with my dad, who is, you know, pretty
much like a degenerate. Uh we actually he was a

(22:18):
he so he likes more classic kind of music. My
first concert I went to was like the Temptations in Vegas.
They still had the original, they still had two of
the original members. No, I can't, I'd have to look

(22:40):
it up. I can't remember which ones they were, but yeah,
they still had two of the original members playing. And
then I think after that we also saw like a
Wretha a Wretha Franklin play there at one of the casinos.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Just like but that that was. That was like the.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
First concert concert I went to, and then like the
hardcore when it come to like an actual show show.
I think the first one I went to was like
just one of the random times that Haste to Day
played a little coffee house here in Lafayette called Sacred Grounds.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Like it was just a random little like Haste to
Day and a couple of other random little bands that
that came up with them, uh before they actually like
released CD and got signed to Solid State and stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
It was when they were starting to pop off.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
So just just this tiny little Christian coffee shop, uh
that you know, probably like two hundred kids packed into
and went crazy for the night.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, so so bo is that the same place we
just played up there?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
So that one was that one's Skylight. That one was
a Skylight coffee house. Sacred Grounds is like half a
mile away from there.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Oh okay, all right, Like it's literally up the street
from where we played.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I just remember you saying it did changed hands. It
was still going, so I thought maybe it was the
same spot.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, that one is something new.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
I don't think they do any kind of music there
or anything that's that's like very very chill. Sacred Grounds
got kind of wild. We played a couple of times there.
They it got it got pretty wild for a while,
and then they kind of had to chill it down
a little bit because it was just not quite big
enough and it was a in an area where uh

(24:40):
there's just there's houses like residential around it. So yeah,
so like it got to a point where I think
they they kind of had to shut it down because
it was getting a little bit too crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But yeah, kind of looked out for the other folks
that are not I.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Guess people who music.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, you always got to be respectful of the
neighborhood or else you ain't gonna last, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, As as the truth, there's a I don't I
haven't been back there in a while, so I don't
even know if they do shows there anymore. But there's
a place in Lynchborough called the Madson House and it's
like a like a makeshift basement type feel, and it's uh,

(25:31):
I don't like I said, I don't know if they
still do shows. But the last time that I went,
I remember like they have upstairs, they have like a
place where they take like donations for you know, like
at risk youth and and homeless folks and that sort
of thing. They have resources up there for essay victims

(25:53):
and and all this cool stuff up there, like for
all these like different people. And then downstairs they have
like the basement and that's where the shows aren't. But
I think the last time I went there, it was
outdoors and they put up like a little wooden patio
and it was nice. It was it was a vibe.
But I kept thinking, like, scause we're so close to

(26:14):
like all these houses, because you know, the city it's packed.
I kept looking around like, oh man, I wonder if
we're gonna get any po Yeah, but nobody said anything.
I got some looks leaving my car, but that was
about it.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I think if it's like an established place, you know,
people would just know that they're gonna have to deal
with it. But when it's a place that like this
place had just started up and started doing this, so
I think they like, you know, after a little while,
people are like, hey, you gotta knock us off. You know,
there was no like there's really like no parking that
in that little area too, So like every like if

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you got two hundred kids coming for a show, they're
just parking wherever they can park and probably just you know,
blocking people's driveways and stuff like that is how it
would go down back then.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, and then somebody just says, hey, I
need to move my car, and then you go move it.
You know. Those are the broad pool shows back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
But I wish that I could go back to the
era of of how shows were before I got into
the scene, because I got into the scene fairly late,
so I didn't get to like go to all the
cool venues and see all of like the big bands
that played in the teeny tiny little venues and then

(27:30):
blew up right after right Like.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Back then, it was a lot of fun because it
was just you know, the more kind of old school
thing where they came on with like amps and they
didn't have a light show and fog machines and fire.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
And all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Like they literally just got up there and played their
music and.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Burn shit down if they were good, you know. Like
we were talking about it the other day, there was
a little spot up in Anderson, Indiana that it was
called the Armory for some reason, but it was actually
an old school that this guy had bought and lived
in and he rented out the gym for events. So
people started putting on shows there. I saw. The one

(28:13):
show was Veil of Maya, A Mirror and a Life
Once Lost in a high school gymnasium in a like
a guttered out high school gymnasium, like it was just
the time.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's like those it was still fringe music. I mean
it always has been and probably forever will be. But
you know, like it was, it was fringe music at
the time. So it's like, yeah, no, these touring bands
will stop. They're not going to pull a crowd at
any of the amphitheaters around town, you know, But now
they are, Yeah, which is weird. You know seeing a

(28:50):
data remember playing like basically stadium shows, like that's wild.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Ye you know, back back in the day we did
here in West Safyet one of the places it was
actually not even one of the places that we normally played.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
It was like.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
It was like the West Sofia Library has like a
little like gymnasium area, and somehow with one of our
friends or with a couple of our friends, we ended
up playing a show at a library with a little gymnasium.
We played with hayse Or we played with a he

(29:28):
Horse the Band and Kingston Falls and I think another
local band. I can't remember which one the third win was,
but yeah, that was another one like back in the day,
like everybody just rolled in.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
So I think I'm pretty sure I was at that show.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was that was many.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Seriously, like to pack one hundred and fifty two hundred
people into into a library basically and play a show
was just wild.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
There's a so I went to uh furnace Fest this
year and last year and I'm I'm part of there's
a Facebook group called furnace Fest Community. Shout out to
anyone who's listening. It's a fun group. But someone posted
a flyer for a show where they're legit playing at
a Culver's.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
I saw.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
That is the most Midwestern thing that has possibly ever happened.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
One of our buddies from Manifestations posted this morning being
upset that the Culver Show didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Wait, so it's not happening.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah that Daniel the drummer from Manifestations. Yeah, he posted
something on his Facebook being upset that the Culver Show
wasn't happening.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I didn't understand. I didn't understand what he was talking about.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yep, do you have Colvers Jade in Virginia?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
No.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I think that's a Midwest thing.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
The midwestern Midwestern shake shock. That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
It's it's fantastic food.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
It's it's the it is great from Wisconsin. So they
have like they have curds on like fried kurds on
the menu.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So good.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's legit.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I told you guys. I have to drive, like I
have to adjust my route when I'm driving with my
daughter in the car, so we don't go buy a Culvers.
Oh yeah, that's like though, she is such a chill kid,
but that is like one thing that we'll set her off.
And I am like such a softie that I'm like,
you know what, No, you never get upset about anything
like this, Yes, let's have a burger at Culvers. So

(31:32):
over sponsor us please.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I have an autistic seven year old and we used
to have like I used to have to take her
to speech therapy in the afternoons a couple of times
a week and on. Like literally the place for speech
therapy is less than a mile from my house and
when you come back from it, you're passing Culvers to
get into my neighborhood. This kid doesn't want to eat

(31:55):
anything ever except for like spaghetti and bagels, like that's
all she ever want to eat.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
We're driving home one day and and.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
She just goes chicken tendies and I was like what
what And She's like chicken tendings, like looking at Culvers,
and I was like absolutely absolutely, you got it.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Uh, that's crazy. I work with autistic adults in a
day program. Yeah. So, and I've gotten to work with
the little kids a couple of times now that i'm
officially rb sertified.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Oh wow, awesome, congratulations that's my couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, it's it's a really rewarding and fun job. We
get to take them out into you know, two different
group activities and that sort of thing. And we're gonna
start doing some stuff you know, back at the facility
now that we can. So I'm excited for that. Yeah,
it's it's a really cool job right now. I think

(32:59):
we only have e for nine folks in our program,
but all of them are super great folks, great to
work with, and it's a again, a super rewarding job
that I oh, for sure, I'm really glad that I
get to do.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
That's a lot, it's a lot of work.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
People don't understand how much work it is, sometimes just
just for one, let alone a group of them, but
just for one.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, I mean, I mean our folks without without saying
too much, most of them are fairly chill. We don't
have a lot of that's the word, the correct word,
I know this word. We don't have a lot of
problem behaviors typically for the most part. You know, a

(33:48):
couple of things here and there, but overall they're they're
pretty chill, understanding group of folks. And it's really neat
like seeing them for each other to like, if one
of them is upset about something, one of them might
step in and go, hey, it's okay, so and so
and try to offer some comfort and just like each other.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, it's it's you know, it's all about social support too, right,
like coming in so like teaching those skills and stuff.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, And we we're gonna start, like we're getting to
now where we're allowed to start working with them in
other capacities too, So we get to do like like
some life skills and home skills and uh like learning
how to do certain things like in a in a

(34:39):
household and that sort of stuff. And so we're really
I'm really excited about that my job.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's awesome. Thanks seriously, thanks.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
But yeah, like like honestly, thank you for being that person,
you know.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, Yeah, it's I kind of found it by accident.
I was working at a hospital before that, and we
had an individual who was in fact on the spectrum
and I felt the need to kind of look out
for them and make sure that they were having a
good experience working in our department. And after a while

(35:17):
I just working in the hospital, especially from like working
there during COVID, I was just burnt out and I
was ready for something new, and I found the company
that I work for now and went in towards the facility.
Super nice facilities they have. We have a whole basement area.
We have big like smartboard and it's so cool. But

(35:40):
I went forward and it was really fun. And here
I am. I've been started in January, so it'll January,
it'll be a year.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Hell yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I think that's you know, anything you can do that
feels like you're helping people or reaching people in some way,
you know, Like that's just that's just hard. It's it's
a hard thing when you when you live in like
a hustle culture, like everybody's you know, trying to trying
to do whatever they whatever little side things they can
do to make money, and they don't really care about

(36:17):
people anymore. They're just trying to like find more customers
and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Like it's really difficult.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
It's hard to explain to people, like, you know, the
way that we do stuff. I have people when I'm like, oh, yeah,
well I'm business weekend. I got to go run up
to you know, Fort Wayne and play a show or
whatever we're doing, Like, oh, you're you gonna make some
money doing that? And like probably not. I don't really
care about making money doing this. They're like, you gotta
make something right, and like, probably not. It's not really

(36:46):
why I'm doing this. Like, you know, if I never
make a dime, that's fine. We go out and we
you know, give everything that we got to whoever shows up,
even if it's just the other bands playing the show,
which is happened to you know, probably once or twice. Uh,
But like you just go out and try to do
your thing and know that no matter what, there's going

(37:07):
to be people that enjoy what you're doing and people
that enjoy the music that you're putting out. Like it
doesn't matter what the music is, there's gonna be people
that just love it. For whatever reason, it just resonates
with them. And you know that's at the end of
the day. I don't plan on making any money doing this.
It's just knowing that there's people that are going to
enjoy it. And that's why I got back into doing it.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
In factually can lose money, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
A lot of money. Losing a lot of money and.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Back to it.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I mean about being a part of just like a
scene of any kind of scene of you know, yeah,
you know there's all those different levels from like the
city you live in to the area that you're in
and to the type of music you listen to or
who you hang out with. But either way, I mean, Bo,
you put it really well when we were talking the
other day, just like you know, it's about going and

(37:57):
making those connections that otherwise you wouldn't have ever made
aid and you know, maybe hopefully making some people's lives
better just because you're out having a good time, you know,
playing music or going to see a show, or you
happen you randomly happen to be going to a Lafia
coffeehouse while there's a metal core slash hardcore show going on. Yeah,

(38:17):
like yeah, you know, it's just a cool thing.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I mean, and there's like there's I feel like there's
this this unspoken thing, and I feel like it was
different probably back in the day, and obviously I wasn't
really part of the scene for most of it are
technically really Born're going to be honest, but like, especially

(38:41):
like in the eighties and stuff, like when hardcore first
started coming out, people really started, you know, supporting the
scene and going to show. Isn't that sort of thing.
It's vastly different than than it is now. Like most
most people's goal is to is to make it, which
isn't a bad thing, and there's like there's this weird

(39:04):
justice excuse me, juxtaposition between like wanting to be successful
and make something and then just doing it just because.
And I feel like there's a there should be a
middle ground, like you should like be able to desire
to want to make something from being in a band,
but you shouldn't be like hated on if you don't

(39:24):
or if that's not your goal. I feel like there's
there's people that treat it like a big competition and
it's just like and then that's when it becomes like
a very like dog eat dog, like mad because I
didn't get this show that so and so got so
and so kicked me out of the band. It's just

(39:45):
like all this extra unnecessary negativity and drama.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think that exists in every in
every scene. I think there's.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Every aspect of life.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Again, that's that's that's the hustle whatever you want to
call it culture that we live in, which is like
you're going to for every band that's going to be
like us. That's like we don't care about making it.
We just want to go do our thing and get
songs out there and be heard. You know, there's going
to be a dozen other bands that are like, oh,
we're only doing this to try to try to make
some money or try to you know, get famous real

(40:18):
fast or something like that. Back in the early you know,
back in the early two thousands, when I was doing
all this stuff, That's what burned me out was it
turned from a bunch of people just writing crazy music
and trying to play crazy shows to a bunch of
pretty boys that should not have been in the scene
at all that took advantage of all these people that

(40:39):
you know, like back then, like again, like the scene was,
you know, the MySpace kids with the crazy hair and
all that stuff, Like they got basically taken advantage of
by a bunch of pretty people that saw an opportunity
to make money that didn't even know the music, didn't
like the music, had people writing stuff for them all

(41:00):
stuff like. It became an industry of you know, labels
just signing any band that they could and sending them
out on tour to making money. And that's kind of
what we ran into. And that's when I was like,
you know what, I'm just kind of done with this like,
we played a few shows with bands like that, and
I just kind of got tired of it and got
you know, scene got kind of weird, and you know,

(41:23):
years and you know, well a decade later, all of
a sudden, you know, the allegations start popping out from
all those bands, and it just it got really disturbing
really fast, and you're like, hey, I'm really glad I
got out of that one.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I did so.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Someone else is getting something like a kid, you not.
I could open my phone right now and type in
that word and It'll pull up some band that I like,
and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Dang it, yep, yep.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
You know, I just hit too close to home a
couple of times when when we would be out seeing
it and the personality type that I am, you know,
like I pretty heavy ADHD and like I don't really
go out looking for anything like that until you hear
about it, and then all of a sudden you're like,
oh my god, it's everywhere I'm out.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I'm done well.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
And even to keep it a little bit lighter than that,
I mean again, without like going into details about names
and all that, we all know some some fairly successful
you know, metal musicians like each of us have like
a tendrils and it'd like different friend groups and stuff
like that. But you know, there was a group of
guys I used to know and work with that went

(42:33):
out on tour after like a super anticipated second release.
They were on Metal Blade and they got to Saint
Louis and went to go fill up their van and oh,
their card got declined. Their you know, their their company
card they were given for the tour got declined, and
that's how they found out that they weren't signed anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
So, like you said, it was like it was infiltrated
and taken advantage of. But like, if we're going to
bring it back, and I think the reason why metal
and you know, especially you look at hardcore is coming
back big time. But even the reception we've gotten for
being you know, metal core whatever you want to call us,
I'm bad with labels, but you know it's because it's

(43:14):
coming back to a sense of community of like, hey,
we're not doing this to make money. You know. Again,
we've played with those bands that have the professional rigs
and do things a lot differently than us, and you know,
we've become friends with them, but it's like a different
way of looking at things, and I think the bands
that are more authentic are the ones that are coming
through and sticking around. Now. Yeah, you know, like I

(43:36):
just saw Just All Knocked Loose a couple of weeks ago.
Not not a they were, They're great. I've never disliked them,
it just wasn't into them, But seeing them live, it's like, no,
those dudes just literally stay true to everything that they
were doing and it got them where they are now.
You know. So whether that's that, you know, record label

(43:58):
influence coming in again, I'm sure there's a certain aspect
of that, but it feels more authentic this time around.
Like you said, oh sorry, I was just saying, like
you said, there was almost a trap lad. People realized
it was profitable and took advantage, and now it just
again feels more authentic this time around.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah. Nowadays too, I feel like a lot of bands
and the same, you know, in the same breath of
saying like there's you know, it's doggate, dogged, a lot
of competition and whatnot, there's also a lot of folks
that look out for each other, that try to help
other bands, that that will speak up if they see

(44:43):
something sketch or like, hey, I worked with this person.
I don't know if you want to try it or not.
What have you? I talk about Fight from Within and
Mikey and the Boys all the time. If you listen
to this podcast, you know Mikey is a good friend
of mine and one of my heroes. But that mentality
of looking out for people and trying to put people

(45:06):
onto new bands and sharing their music and even people
like oh my gosh, what I'm blanking on his name now,
but the lead singer from Heavy Hitter. He is also
someone that like calls it like he sees it. He
tries to help put people onto like good advice, like hey,
you should do this. This is what we've been doing
and it works saying. Or Adam from Dropout Kings same deal,

(45:32):
is always trying to like put advice and information out
there for bands to help them. So it's like there's
a lot of there's you know, some things that could
be better, but there's also a lot of things that
are really great.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah. I mean the way that we see it as
a band, like we want to make our scene as
best as it could be, right or as it can be,
and you know, and help each other out and and
whatever form that might be. And you know the bands
that kind of like only look out for themselves and

(46:07):
only try and get themselves on the big shows that
are coming through. It doesn't it doesn't help the scene
out when you do that right, and you meet fewer people.
And I think for us as a band, like you know,
like both said like we're we're really in it to
like meet awesome people. And we've met some amazing people,
you know, just playing shows and you know and even

(46:31):
even doing uh, you know, podcasts like this. We we
made a connection with another band in Cleveland, Ohio through
another podcast like this, and we ended up playing a
show with them, Like we drove all the way out
to Cleveland and.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
It was we went, we went and helped them out
on their CD release show for them, I mean it
was their very first show they were ever going to play.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Wow. Yeah, it was a great time too, Like it
was just awesome. It all just fell into place.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, continue Steve.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Oh yeah, I was just I was just gonna say
it was you know, we're we're in it just you know,
you know, it's fun for people to hear our music,
and you know, we're really excited that, like Indianapolis is
if you if you come to Indianapolis, there are the
number of metalcore and hardcore bands as it's a surprising number.

(47:22):
We've got a really good market for it right now,
and there are a lot of really good bands. And
you know, we're just we're just out there too to
hang out, play good music, meet meet awesome people and
kind of like share our influences and just you know,
I have a I have a playlist on Spotify. It's

(47:43):
called this is Indianapolis Metal. And like I I'm constantly
just like adding new songs from bands that are that
are posting or that are releasing. And it's the number
of of new songs that get released from week to
week from Indianapolis bands. It's absolutely absurd, it's insane. So

(48:06):
we're just we're just out there to try and kind
of you know, continue to get Indianapolis on the map
and and and have awesome shows come through.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Back up, man, what do we say, Steve heavy but wholesome.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
But I mean so again, though, like you think about
like I hate to keep like we're just having nostalgia
nostalgia old person time right now, but like you think
back to the two thousands. Man, Like, we've all seen
some ridiculous shows, Like we were well positioned here in
Indie number one with having the dudes from Hayes to

(48:41):
Day putting us on the map as far as like
you know, the solid state Christian metal core stuff. But
also I mean Damiericus. Uh, there's a lot of other
bands from Indianapolis that like pulled others here. I used
to see Still Remains all the week and pretty much
every weekend for a solid like two years. They were

(49:04):
playing here every weekend, if not every other. Devilware's Prada
red jumpsuit apparatus.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Like Terrorists played Indy.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh yeah, I've seen Evergreen Terrast so many times.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
August Burns August Burn's Red on the Thrill Secret Tour.
I saw them for five dollars, you know, insanity. I
didn't even know who they were. My buddy showed me
the record like the day before we went to the show.
I was like, oh, August Burn's read sounds cool whatever,
and when had my mind blown? Like like, but we

(49:40):
can bring that back, Like I'm saying, I think I
think all of those networks are still there. Well, they're
definitely here, but they're still everywhere. We just got to
get it going again, you know, and like, like we've
all said, it's it's not about trying to make it
or do anything. We're just having fun. We're just writing
music that we love and having on and that was

(50:01):
the secret ingredient the first time around, you know, So
let's keep it going. It's not about having the perfect
tone or you know, the perfect stage show. Just have
fucking fun.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I think I think one of the uh A moment
that kind of going back to the topic of like
bands helping each other out, Hayse today had a had
like four shows they were playing back to back in
Indianapolis last year, and they brought an O sleeper with
them and I was I was hanging out at a

(50:34):
brewery the day before and I got to talking with Micah,
their their vocalist, and we were just talking about being
dads and whatnot, and Uh, I asked him what his
warm up routine was and he was and he was like, hey,
do you want to you just want to do it
with me tomorrow. I was like, yeah, sure, and uh

(50:58):
and he posted number my phone. Next day, he called
me and he was like, Hey, meet me out back
by our our our trailer and he had like thirty
minutes just me and him like doing warm up vocals
and showed me his warm up for screaming, and it
was it was just one of the coolest moments because

(51:20):
it was just one band looking out for another and
sharing knowledge. And the funny thing is like they I
hadn't seen him in a year, and I had I had,
you know, talked to him like every day while they
were playing those shows because I was I was out there.
And this year I was at Furnace Fest they're playing

(51:41):
and I went over there to just go say hi,
and I didn't have to say anything. He saw me
and hit like he just had big open arms and
gave me a hug and showed me pictures of his
kid and we talked, you know, the warm ups and
I was just like, dude, like you know, it improved,
it improved my vocal for live shows, and you know,
I thanked him for it. But it's just like, you know,

(52:04):
it's it's good like hospitality, you know, like bands looking
out for other bands and just like respecting each other
and and wanting to pass along knowledge. It's still out there,
even with the more successful bands out there. Too. I mean,
it's just really cool moments like that. Shout out Micah

(52:26):
if you're listening.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I definitely had some pretty cool moments. I would say
one of the coolest getting again going back to going
back to fight, I mean getting to meet Mikey for
the first time. Like I legitimately cried because we had
been friends for two years or so before I got
to see them play live. And then I finally got
to see them and meet him in person. And my

(52:50):
husband was right there and he was like, are you okay?
And I was like, and Mike, he just looks at
him and goes that this has been a long time coming.
It's been it's been a long time coming, and gave
me the biggest hug. Like moments like that, and just
like seeing my friends bands play and shout out weeping wound.
I saw them last week, shout out to their vocalists

(53:13):
for signing my CD and not thinking that I was
friends because I asked him to sign my CD. They
were super nice guys and I got some really cool videos.
There were some cool dudes. But just like moments like
that make it work.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
It absolutely that show in Cleveland that we did, you know,
we had We had a couple of guys we didn't
have the size shirt that they wore. For one of them,
he was he was like a two XL And at
the time we only we had only we had gotten
just enough for like XL L medium and small. We

(53:52):
we really, you know, we're just gonna see if we
could sell some shirts.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And then we were still thinking my Space sizes, everything
gets more thing.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
And I remember I couldn't, I couldn't sell them.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Yeah, we had. We had two guys each bye, both
of the styles of shirt, like a black and a
gray shirt. Uh, just because they loved the show that
we put on. And then they asked us all to
sign the gray shirts, which is why they bought the
gray shirts too. And then we had one what the

(54:27):
two shows ago, we had somebody ask us to sign
the playlist or the play the set list that we
did and uh, you know, just little stuff like that
where you just got like, you know, a couple of
drunk guys, ah, just just telling you how much they
loved the show. They'd never heard us before, you know,

(54:49):
they they were there to check out the bands and
stuff like that. Uh, that's the kind of stuff that
that's you know, why why you do it? You just
those little those little moments with people, uh, you know,
just feel special. So and it's again, doesn't even matter
that we sold a bunch of shirts basically, you know,

(55:10):
it was just like they liked us enough that they
wanted to buy two shirts each and then have a
sign one and hang out with them, you know, talking
to them after the show. And that's one of the
other big things that we do that you know, you
notice like a lot of people kind of don't do
it so much where if we're not playing, we're hanging
out in the venue at the table whatever, like we're

(55:30):
just hanging out talking to anybody that wants to come
up and talk.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well, sorry, I just want to interject here real quick
because Black Circle a couple of weeks ago, was it
a counter bail. I believe that I love their bit
where he says if you didn't know, we are T
shirt salesmen that play music on the side.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yes, I hear.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
That a couple of times, maybe once or twice a week,
and it's it's still yeah, yeah, lots of lots of wonderful,
great puls moments within the scene. And I couldn't name

(56:12):
all the bands that have given me their time if
I tried. But like looking up at the ones on
my wall, I mean like, you have bands like Exit
Wounds that signed my poster that they gave me.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
We just played with them.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, I love them.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Shout up.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Up your your playlist, Steve. I'm gonna check it out
more later after we're done recording. But I saw them
at the top of the playlist, like, yes, oh yeah,
you got bands like heaviest a Head, I have their
set list on my wall, got Bottomnized, barrier To got
their set list on my wall. A lot of other

(56:55):
local bands have got CDs and tapes from stickers. So
much I've got I don't even know how many drumsticks.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
We're gonna have to get out there so you can
get our set list up there too.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yay, do it, I was saying. I was literally thinking
and looking up at my wall. I kid you not,
because of from where I was listening to you guys yesterday,
I was thinking, like, oh man, Heavy Heavy is the head.
If they have anything planned in the next few months ago,

(57:29):
they should take you guys out, because I feel like
your style is kind of late. I feel like y'all
would vibe the lead singer, Kendle is also a dad.
I can't remember other guys in the.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Band, but can we can we just rebrand our genre
as dad poor?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I think that should be our thing.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Someone I feel like someone somewhere has has suggested this,
and I by all mean to do it. Bring your
kids to the shows.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
And the show that we just played with Countervail and
a band called Two Shadows. It was at Black Circle
in Indy, which is where we played our first show.
We probably I think we probably played there more than anything.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
We we love that the people that run that place.
My my wife actually brought my daughter to see it,
just to see our set. So she seven year old
autistic kid with you know, giant giant noise canceling ear
muffs that she has to have, you know, for school

(58:36):
and stuff. In general, just standing right in front of
the stage while we were playing was pretty was pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Having a great time, man. Yeah, it was something special.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
She she enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
She loved it.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
It was late for her though, because you know, like
a daylight savings time was the day before uh you know,
so we played probably like seven thirty or eight o'clock,
so you know, that's already like basically when she's used
to going to bed, and by the time we actually
play and it's you know, really like nine o'clock for her,
so she was wearing down pretty fast. Especially I live

(59:12):
an hour away from everybody else. I live in Lafayat,
Indiana where Purdue.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Is, so.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
It's it's a bit of a drive, so it's already late.
It's you know, pitch black at six o'clock at night now.
So by the end of our set, like she was,
she was wiped. But she loved it.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Yeah, it was experience. Yeah, baby's first show.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yeah, it does make me pretty happy that, you know. Also, hi,
dad here got a got a basically four year old.
But she's been requesting to listen to the newest tracks.
Not the old one, not the older ones, mind you,
but the two most recent releases. She anytime we get
in the car, she had to listen to them, which

(01:00:02):
is kind of cool. I've never never forced it on her,
but I'm like, yes, you will be a metal head.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Suit is he knows Dad's music.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I don't have it yet, but my hope is that
they will also be a little middle heads. My husband
is not a middlehead at all. But I'm just gonna
be like, hey, so I'm your mom, So we're gonna
go to a show and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
There you go have fun runs around the house and
I don't know if it's just a kid thing, but she,
my wife calls it a daddy daddy daddy music. But
she'll just walk around the house and she'll just scream random.
I've got a toddler who's like a year and a
half old and she just like fry vocal screams, just

(01:00:46):
race the words. And my mother in law was like,
she's gonna damage her voice. I'm like, she heard her
beautiful voice. I'm like, I still have my beautiful voice.
Come on, she's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Be featured on the next EP.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, she's just training mom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, hey man, you never know, she might end up
like what was that that girl's name? That the little girl?
She did some show maybe it was one of those
shows she was a little kid and she did she
covered a spirit Box song and I remember being like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
What now now I've seen her like ever Yeah, now
now I've seen her like doing her own thing and
covering like she's blown up online.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yep, yep for sure. So hey, you never know, man,
you might have a goal mine.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Was it the British version of America's Got Talent or
something like that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I think I think that's called Britain's Got Talent?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
There we go, it was it was?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Or is it just the American version? We'll just call
it that, the American version of Britain's Got talent.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
It's just got talent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Everybody's got talent question.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So I know we've been kind of getting in our
fuels and talking about all the lovely cool things that
happened at shows and all that good stuff. So I
know the year is pretty much winded down. But what
can we expect from you guys in maybe I don't know,
January February like that you guys got going on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
We're hoping.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
We're hoping to chill for the rest of the year
unless a big show comes up. We were trying to
do it like last month, we were trying to trying
to go into like a little bit of a chill spot.
We've got four or five songs that we're pretty far
into as far as you know, new music goes, and
we're ready to spice things up a little bit and start,

(01:02:41):
you know, changing up the set list and stuff like that,
and get some get some fresh blood in there. We
got four or five songs that we're pretty excited to
get finished up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Uh. Right now, we want to just like lay a
little bit low.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
We had back to back to back shows like three
three shows and a days that were all shows that
we just couldn't say no to. So now we're trying
to breathe just a minute, focus and finishing these songs,
get back in and record them and uh, come out,
come out swinging next year.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Yeah, we're wanting to. Uh. I think I personally, i'd
like to play some more out of state shows. Uh.
We've got our our buddies and Chrome Marama. They they
they tour around everywhere, the East Coast, everywhere. They're local
friends of ours and uh, you know they're they're just
kind of talking about their experiences and playing in other states,

(01:03:36):
and so I think it'd be really nice to start
playing shows, you know, more shows in Ohio, Illinois. I'd
love to play at Chicago show that'd be that'd be
pretty rad. Kentucky and uh, we've talked to a few
people in Michigan as well, So yeah, we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Got we got Wisconsin friends now too, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Yeah, shout out to soul Shade. Those guys Rip soul.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Shade and Sweet Talk love them, but so soul Shade
we got to spend a lot of time talking with
before and after the show, and they they definitely want.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
To get some more stuff with us.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
But you know again that that's just part of what
we're doing is just jumping on any show we can
with with bands that sound interesting and trying to make
more friends.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
And uh, you know, that's it's been a lot, it's
been a lot of fun. We don't have anything.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Planned plan we got we got a couple of like
possible things, but then we got you know, some of
the local bands, our buddies in King's Gambit and then
Chrome Rama. You know, we've talked to them multiple times
about doing some weekenders and uh, we haven't. We haven't
done anything quite that you know, exciting yet. I've only
the three shows in eight days was the most I've

(01:04:50):
done ever.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Uh, so we're we're.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Definitely looking at doing some more exciting stuff as far
as getting out and playing. So we'll see, we'll see
what happens with that. But we haven't really said anything
in stone yet for for dates or anything next year.
We didn't we didn't set anything in in stone for
this year, but we ended up playing like a show
every month pretty much. A couple of times we had

(01:05:17):
multiple shows in a month, and that you know, that's
a lot when you got five adults, three of them
have kids, and four of them have kids and four
of them Yeah, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Might have Vic, might have a couple we just don't
know about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
It's likely Vic's got the dog and he's got his brother. Uh.
But yeah, we we don't really have anything yet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
We just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
What's that. We'll see, We'll see where we go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's definitely in the cards
for the next year. There might one of our one
of the bands that we played with earlier this year
puts on a festival and brings in a lot of
barely big bands and uh, after one of the shows,
was like, hey, we want to have you on the
show this year or next year. So we're we're waiting

(01:06:13):
to hear back on that one and uh and see
how that kind of manifests. So we shall see.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Yeah, I think we got like a few feelers out
for for some bigger festivals where we could get out
of the state potentially.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah, I certainly hope that it works out, and hopefully
we'll see you down this way here in a few
months or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
You know, that'd be pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
It'd be awesome. We can go get out of the snow.
We do a little south southeast tour. Let's scope.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
You're sick of snow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Huh oh no, not yet, not yet, hadn't happened.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Yeah, But in Indiana winters there, I mean, it's something
like a Chicago or a Michigan winter, but it it
just lingers a little too long in the winter time.
The cold, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
The highway here in Virginia was seventy one today.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Oh gosh, that sounds fantastic. It is fifty three fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Three right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
And then the day before that it was like a
cold rain, which I was okay with, but everyone else,
like you, I'm all right with us. It's supposed to
be cold November, dang it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
We're we're somewhat immune to it. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
When we say the temperature swings in Indiana will drive
you nuts, they drive my sinuses crazy all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
We're Aaron's not. He's from Texas. I mean, I'm from Georgia,
but I've grown a customs. He's a more recent transplant.
Never got over it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
We Yeah, I mean, well, hell, last week we had
a couple of days where we had forty degree temperature swings.
You know, you you wake up and it's like thirties
and then by the end of the day as seventies
and then drops back down over nine to thirties.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
And how do you back up to eighty?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, you wear like Virginia Weather on steroids.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
You wear layers, and then you just gotta go with
like three or four light light late layers of clothes
that you're just gonna slowly just swap out of throughout
the day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Insane. Yeah, one minute, it's like eighties a few weeks ago,
and it finally started windling down. I was like, yes,
cold weather, and then it will jump back up to
the seventies. No, Yeah, you know, what can you do?

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
That's half the reason why I am smoking ribs right
now is because I get to start a fire and
stand by it and yeah, wore myself up. Just nice
fall vibes, right, yeah like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Well, guys, this has been awesome. It has been so
great getting to know you and just chit chatting same
and talking about life and the scene and hearing more
about you guys. I definitely appreciate you coming on and
making time for this. It's been a vibe for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, thank thanks for having us. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
We we love the stuff like this, the podcasts and
things like that. They're just you know, people just wanting
to help expose other bands.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
That's awesome for sure for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Listeners, you know how we get down over here. You know.
We always sport the holmies to make sure you don't
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go stream their stuff, go shows when we have them,
by merch when they have it. You guys know the drill. Gentlemen,
it has been real. Thank you so much, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
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