April 6, 2025 • 48 mins
NY based band Soulmirror talks up their entrance int o the music world, their future plans for their band and their mot recent release.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode of the Misfit Minutes podcast.
I'm your host, of course, Jade. If you're near around here, welcome,
If you're not around here, welcome back to the chaos.
So for today's episode, I have not one, not too
but three very special guests with me. I have Katrell,
Brian and Julian from Sohmer. Welcome guys. What's good to
(00:25):
have you guys on. Definitely excited to get into things.
First things first, I really like you guys's website. I
like the vibe, I like the colors. It looks super professional.
I really like the.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Website.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Was definitely a tough project, just because that's our first
time setting something like that up. But having like reviews
and people talking about yourself helps a lot makes it,
you know, to add, like the quotes and all this
make it look real, real nice.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, it definitely looks really nice, like how the album
art is right there. And again I really like the
color scheme too. The color scheme looks really dopee.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Black and gold for the wind baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So I was curious because I'm pretty sure that you
guys hit me up first, I'm curious how did you
find me?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So that was actually quite a long process.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Towards the beginning of the year, we were kind of
just trying to figure out what we wanted to do
this year, and you know, obviously doing the whole band thing.
We got to you know, look at promotion, impressed and
getting you know, getting our name out there on certain
things that are recognizable.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And I forgot exactly how we found you and and
the whole musical misfit uh team.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But it was definitely along the process of you know,
looking at our favorite bands, some of the bands that
we know, what they're doing, what they got going on,
who they know, who they talked to. Definitely definitely a
big research project, but right worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, I'd say it pretty good. And I'm relatively new
to you guys. So as far as I guess you're,
for lack of better word, like your origin story, how
did you guys start your project?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So, I think so me and Brian met up I
think in twenty twenty one, as you know, he was
like and he'said he you know, he basically basically knew
he started to do like a mutual friend. And originally
when I first joined the band, it was to be
a drummer actually not the vocalist, so try.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
That out.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Didn't work as well, but I was determined, and that
first day I came to like his house, I was like, hey,
let me hop on that mic and.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Let me just do do some vocals.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I just I started doing vocals like maybe a couple
of months and so I was relatively new.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
And then Brian kind of just stalled that whole.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Like, oh, he's really good at vocal he has he
has he at least has like potential.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
So that's kind of how I started.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Basically, just dude jumped on the mic and just started
ripping and said, all right, cool.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Nice, I like it. I like it. What's been I
guess kind of like the most difficult thing to learn
as far as being a vocalist. How have you been
kind of I guess cultivating your skills?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So screaming is actually a very relatively new thing for me,
so i'd probausly. I've been doing it for about two
years and then doing shows. It hasn't been a full
year yet, but once it hits maybe I think one
of August was our first show, it will be like
a full year of I was doing a full show,
so I was very new to it do so for
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me vocally, where I came from was I was in
school most of the time in college, and I went
to school for music and music d and I was
a vocal major, so I was classically trained. I did,
you know a little bit of Broadway music, opera and like,
you know, I listened to my post or core emo
music stuff, so I'll do that. And eventually, I guess
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I knew the techniques of how screaming went.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I just didn't know how to project.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
So like throughout the years, I guess me learning things,
and I you know, I took lessons with David Banidis
from Extreme Vocal School.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
So he helped me a lot kind of like helped.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Me get more in two with my screaming voice, basically
telling me things that he needs to know, you know,
expectations to have and like I guess, I real expectations
that may come up.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Along the way in my journey.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So it was a very tough thing for me to
kind of adjust to, especially because I needed.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
To record the album within a year of learning how.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
To scream, So once that happened, it was it was
very stressful for me. Recorded an album because it was
either I would come in sometimes into sessions and I
would worry if my voice didn't work. Day my voice
would work, and like you know, I would take like
basically like six hours to finish one song, you know,
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because I was just very I was learning this as
I was going. But like once I finished the whole thing,
it it became worth it.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I say this all the time, Like in the final product,
when I finished the whole thing, it was it was
worth it, and it was kind of cool to see
where I.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Came from in my vocal journey and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So you know what, in regards to maintaining my voice,
I keep I do the same things you would do as.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
A regular vocalist.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You know, when to stop obviously, try not to smoke
before the show.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I kind of failed in that part. But I'm doing
my thing like that. I'm gonna start new so also,
you know water.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I also brought this this one second after this FX's
bait ding.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Actually it's yeah, so it's like it's a try hard thing,
but you know it works. This right here, I brought
this from me.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh so it's like a vapor in haler, you know,
just to clear you sinus. This is one of the
things I realized as a vocalist, especially with screaming. I
noticed that my sinuses will get clogged up a lot
with like, you know, mucus, because like I activated a.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Lot when I do vocals.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Do you also want to make sure that your sinuses
are very clear when you do vocals and stuff.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So I say, another good vocal tip.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So yeah, that is that's definitely a pro tip for
sure future vocalists out there, even the vocalists who were
little seasoned and didn't didn't know listen to listen to control.
He's trying to hook you up. That is really cool,
though I don't think I've ever heard anyone mentioned that
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as like a way to you know, stay doing well
with their vocals. So that's really neat. I like it.
I like it. So you guys said that you said
that you played your first show in August of last year.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yes, it was on the twenty Seconds the day the
day or album dropped show.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Wow that and I was with skin Crawl. Yeah, skin
crawled a curse? When was that Jamison's Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Nice? Sorry, I train of thought just went away. I apologize.
I was gonna ask about how Yeah, I know, right,
adhd Crew, I was gonna ask, I guess kind of
how your your first show went. Were there any kind
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of hiccups or anything that you had to work through
and how did you work through it?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Well?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I mean it's kind of different because you know that's Cat.
Was that your first show, right, ye? So you know
I've been playing shows prior to that for the last.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
Couple of years.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
I was doing like a metal core kind of band
thing pre is to joining Soul Mirrors. So, and I
know Brian has live experience as well, so we've both
had live experience. This is Cat's first time having live experience,
and it's honestly working out really great.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, so, yeah, we did it.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We did a lot of prep for that show, a
lot of planning, a lot of like looking at it went.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Provided we did locked in.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We lost the run about it, but we did lose
a rug. We lost, yeah, the one the one took up.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It'd be like god, but oh I'm glad that it didn't.
That nothing crazy happened. I've definitely talked to folks before
and they're like, our first show was ridiculous. Everything went wrong.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Wrong, though, But we practiced a lot. You know, we
practiced a lot before that Fresh show. You know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
We're really well prepared. We just kept sounding better every
other show, you know what I mean. That's just how
it is.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You know, the more practice you do, you.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Know, the better the tighter you lock in, you know
what I mean. And I guess like muscle memory to
that point.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Absolutely, Yeah, one thousand percent. Practice makes perfect. If you
go a whole month without screaming and try to play show,
it's not gonna work. If you don't, you know, you
go without playing the drums or playing your guitar for
a long period of time, it's just not gonna go well.
And then you're like, why do we sound terrible? I
(09:24):
heard sounded like trash? Oh man, Yeah, well, I'm glad
to hear that it went well. And I was looking
at y'all's album, Yeah, guess I was looking at it yesterday,
and I actually I liked one of y'all songs like
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a while ago, but I hadn't set had a chance
to sit down and listen to the whole album front
to back, which I did. I did have a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
To thank you. I thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
A second Sinking In.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Is that everyone's like favorite song.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
When you ask, you got a lot of different genres,
a lot of different tastes, a lot of on of
different flavors on the record, and that one's definitely more
of like the stricter death core kind of you know,
coorse tound. But yeah, we've got We've everybody tells us
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a different song when whenever asked what their favorite is,
it's it's usually either Sinking in the root the rot
or likes Company, or something staggering forwards.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Sagony Ford is a big one.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
My favorite is my favorite is on Bathing Sin Like
it doesn't get as much love, but I love bathings
and so much. I just like the horror of the
guitars great with athensin it just kind of lingers throughout
the whole song as a shadow.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That was very very dirty, very dirty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I did it. What kind of was your thought process
as far as putting the album together and maybe like
your song structure and I kind of how you put
things in order the way you felt like they needed
to be.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And so there's a really good story about that actually
really really early early on when we're around the time
when we first started, I went over to Cats and
we kind of just sat down and we're like, all right,
we want to we want to put a record together.
We want to put like, you know, full twelve song,
full album together and really have it, you know, have
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some weight and have.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Some substance to it. What do we make this about?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And we started for like an hour and we just
kind of, you know, chopped up old memories from back
in the day of like when we're growing up and ship.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And we kind of you know, pieced together this.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Story of what you know, life was like for us
growing up and you know, the kind of situations that
we were in. That's that's part, honestly, probably my favorite
part of the record is you know, the lyrics and
the stories that are underneath all of it, because.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're super, super real, super.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You know, a most points fucked up, to be honest,
but it's deeed.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It goes super deep.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And we kind of, you know, we had the layout
of the story and we're like, all right, let's you know,
write the music around it and make the music sound
like the lyrics and really you know, tie the two together.
But that was like a couple of months process that
took a while to really nailing down and figure it
all out.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, it's definitely hard creating art and then kind of
bringing bringing up maybe like old things of things that
you know, most you might not want to talk about
or think about, but putting it on paper. I know,
for me, I journal a lot so and I write
some you know, occasionally a song here and there, but
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mostly like poetry and that kind of stuff. But out
on paper definitely helps, and you never know, and you
end up turning it into something I don't necessarily, I
don't want to say beautiful, because then that's just glorifying pain,
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which you don't want to do that. But at the
same time, it ends up becoming something that is desirable
and enjoyable and other people can relate to. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I always thought that argument was interesting as far
as like when people put out music or art or
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what have you, and you have and you're like, oh man,
this is so cool, and then they like you hear
the story behind it, and you're like, I feel really
bad literally liking this now, but it's really good.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But is you know the I think the ugly things
that like people don't like is what attracts people to
like those art styles, and I think it's it's a
it's a way that people can express it without like
actually addressing it like hardcore, like you know, instead of
being direct, you can express it through music. And I
guess that's relatable and that's why people like it, and like,
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you know, you don't have to feel bad about liking
like that kind of bad stuff, but it's relatable and
then you know it's real sometimes, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
That's exactly why people wash too, you.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Know what I mean, people.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Speaking metals metal, you know, darky heavy stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, yes, yes, it is I guess kind of
lightening things up a bit. Speaking of I want to
hear crazy mash stories.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So my first pick I've been in it was like
it was I think those bands work towards twenty fifteen,
and it was just band called one hundred. I wasn't cool,
but it was like a cool little It was like
a they're a little bit bigger now, but it was
just band called one hundred and it was our first
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most ever and it was sick and I'm glad work
towards back, even though it's not really the same how
it used to be.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
But you know the fact that it's somewhat back, you know,
I'm happy about and.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
That's like one of the that's one of my goals
is to play.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's one of my So, yeah, is this crazy Moss
stories from our lives or crazy Moss stories from the
bands from the band's live shows.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I could think of one.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I don't know if you were there at the end
of at the end of Warcock and Cherry now.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
One of do you want to tell the story? Were
you there for that night? Were you there when that happened?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I was, so I was thinking in the car, yeah
he was. He was like, let's go, let's go, and
I was like, no, we're trying to stay. I'm trying
to stay. So it was bearing point I think was
playing and somebody got knocked out. I wasn't there for it,
but I'm pretty sure Brian was. He might know further
in detail. But so I got like knocked out, and
then uh, like it just got crazy after that, and
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like the energy was super tense in the room and
then the cops got called. So even if I wanted
to leave, I couldn't really leave. So we're here now,
you know, so so yeah, it was just wild, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
Like, I'm pretty sure Connecticut really just gets down like that.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I've heard a lot of fight stories from Connecticut, so
I'm not from Connecticut for myself, I'm from Massachusetts. But yeah,
I like, you know, every time we play out there,
it's something crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So yeah, and my one of my goals. And I
would love to go to like like a base, not
a basement show, but like a small show in New
York because I have never a I've never been to
New York and b yeah, no, it's what deal is.
My my husband has nephews and nieces that live in
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New York. I'm like, why have we never been? I
want to go there.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's nice, It's I'll say, it's nice to covering from
a fellow New Yorker, it's nice. I don't live anywhere
by I grew up there, but it's very nice to visit.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
But living there is different. I'll stay that living there different.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, you've mentioned that a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's like because someone was telling me, like a couple
of weeks ago, I was mentioning that I wanted to
go to New York and they were like, why would
you want to go to New York? It's terrible. It
smells like you got people bumping into you and not
saying excuse me, and like, I mean that's fair. I
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mean I guess, like I don't know experience.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, so really nice show coming up on April thirteenth
in New York and Nayak.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah we're talking. We're talking about the the Club.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
How you pronounce that?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, we're playing with the rat Blood, Paradox Black right,
that's the other names, Black Winner and More.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
This we're doing, like what a three day run with them?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Right, I don't know if it's with I don't know
there's three days with More. I think it's like we
got two days with them. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
So yeah, that was pretty that was pretty gonna be
pretty dope.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
One I'm really looking forward to is the one in
am with Roseline, rat Blood, the Flood. Yeah, that one's
gonna go really hard. And then we got a Palladium
show coming up for that one again. Yeah yeah, Palladium, Yeah,
palladiums far. We got a Platium show coming up with
eCos Fade and uh, they're pretty cool guys. And then
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we got a Webster show coming up shortly after that,
which is gonna be super far.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We're playing with Trench Harker Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, it's got a lot of stuff coming up. Yeah,
it's exciting though, it's cool.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I'm definitely glad that you guys have
stuff going on. I am in Virginia, so I doubt
that I would be able to make it to these
shows Boo.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Virginia, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I'll be there in spirit.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But that we'll say something. I'll probably like, yeah, July. Yeah,
have you been.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Down this way, like, either for music or just in general.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I think I've been to Virginia like the once or twice.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I've never been, yeah or not.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
A couple of times been down south my old my
old band did a two week run down the Florida
so we hit like all the Carolinas in Virginia and
West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So this is way back in the day though, But
I can't wait to get back out on the road
and do that again.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I've never done it before. There'll be a whole new
thing for me.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, Brian, what what what's your what's your favorite thing about being.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh, this is such an easy question.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
If you once you get out to like Pennsylvania and
where there's no light pollution, you can look up and
see the Milky Way. That's that's it, hands down the
greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. You can
see every little like every little star, all the satellites
and stuff going.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It's it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That is really cool. It's really nice when there's no
no street lights and stuff and you can just look
up and see the stars.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I live not like in the country, but like far
enough in the country where it's out the way, so
I don't really have a lot of like big buildings
and stuff around me, which is nice. If I want
to go to the city, I can just drive thirty
minutes up the road and do that if I feel
like it, which I usually don't. But yeah, I work
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like on the outskirts of the city too, so I
can avoid like mainstream traffic at all costs if I
want to, which is really nice.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So I know that you said that you're in school
or you were in school control. Yeah, what what kind
of things do you guys do outside of your band?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I teach.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I teach music.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
I love that, and I uh, I like working out.
That's about it.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, so it's crazy actually as to teach as well.
So I teach drums and I'm a finish freak, so
I hit the gym a lot. But yeah, so and
then the band life is really just where it's at
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right now.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
So I need to find more hobby. Yeah, I like
the game also, I like video games. I like the
game too.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I don't too much. I don't too much aside from work,
come home and work on the band.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, we're pretty simple people, so happy.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I'm have some fun outside of being a band. You
got a few other things kind of.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually going I'm actually going to a
show tonight, which is pretty dope.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Like this. So this hoodie that I'm wearing right here
is my boy Tony.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
He's like booker, like promoter, and we plan a show
with him on the twenty second Gateway and Lawrence. Yeah
so I'm actually from over here in Marrimack Valley, Massachusetts,
and yeah, so about to just pop out tonight. But yeah,
really it's just a super dope thing that he got
going on because Marrimack Valley Hardcard was once a thing
and I was too young to be a part of it,
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but now it's coming back because of him.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Really, So it's super dope because you get to see all.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
These bands come out here and you know, meeting bands
from Maine, New York, Pennsylvania, you know all over there,
you know, the East Coast, the East Side. So and
he's putting on really for a big way in mass
So that's really dope.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's awesome. Sounds like it's gonna be a good time
for sure, and.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
And thank you you're welcome. Shout out to Queen City,
Queen City.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Insane.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Played It's crazy because actually before he moved out, we
played his house show, his last house show, this dude.
And that was like another thing that was like tied
into like the whole washing thing was the five nine.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Five nine is like a really big thing over here.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
It used to be like a house venue type of
thing and it was like a basement, like in a basement,
and it was like super dope, like and I had
like went to the last five to nine show.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
It was with like burying point author of Next. I'm
pretty sure the flood played it. What was that?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I really like being point Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Bearing portant. It is hard, Yeah, shout out them.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
But yeah, I injured myself there. I threw my shoulder out.
Yeah it was super bad. Yeah, I mean that place
is like known for like people just getting injured left
and right. But it's like a super dope venue. You know,
Rob is a super cool guy and Tony you know,
he's They're.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
All cool guys, you know what I mean. So, but yeah,
I didn't get a chance to play there.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
I was supposed to play there, and I didn't get
the chance to play that. I'm super bummed out because they.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Don't have it going on anymore.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Let's close the shut down, you know. So but yeah,
so that that's a super dope thing going on. And
we played that house show that was pretty dope. Tony's
last house show we got on the last minute. That
was like last year, September, right like the fourteenth, I
believe something like that.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
So that it was fun because it was in the basement.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It was actually one of the best goals that I
actually played with funny, really cool.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Super intimate, you know what I mean, dope and like
talking to all these people you know what I mean,
Like people are super cool there, you know, they got
to like chills.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Down the Earth by.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely their guitar, their guitars are they're all kids,
They're all kids.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I personally have never been to a house show, but
I've definitely been to a lot of small I know,
terrible that, but like there's there's no venues like around
here and nowhere.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Because I was just about to ask, like what's the
best venue around well, I.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Mean there's so I take that back. There are good
venues here in Virginia. Where the problem is where I
live is really inconvenient for every venue that's good. So
like except for like one, there's like a couple of
places in Lyunchberg. They're kind of hit or miss and
they don't do shows very often.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
So so you don't have any touring acts come your way,
like you So we are like that.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So a lot of the a lot of the shows
happen either Beach or rich In. So like we have
like in Virginia Beach we have like my god, what
is it called riff house? If tap house we got
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there's a couple of other ones in Richmond. There's a
couple as well, I'll have to write it down and
I'll send it to you because I'm just but there's
like a there's an arcade here and that's like thirtysh
minutes away from me. That's I think gonna start doing
some shows soon. I don't know a lot of details,
but I've heard from two different people that I think
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they're gonna start booking some stuff. I don't know the genre,
all the genres per se, but because one place that
used the book there was a record store that had
a couple of shows here and there, which was really
cool because it's like a vinyl shop and they would
have shows there. But I think they had to move buildings,
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so that kind of sucks. But I think I don't
think they can do anything at their new location. But
I think they were going to partner up with a
local booking guy that was going to try, excuse me,
try to do some stuff. I really miss a venue.
I missed Champion Brewery in Charlottesville. Uh. That was actually
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technically the first show I ever went to, like local. Yeah,
so I didn't start going to shows until like a
couple of years ago because I didn't really a I
didn't have anyone to go with B Like I just
I didn't find the local scene yet, so I kind
of just I sometimes, Well now I thought the show
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is by myself all the time, but at the time
I hadn't. I'd been to like Blue Rig's Rock Fast
and a couple of other concerts, and I wanted more.
So I started looking into like the smaller bands that
it played Blue Ridge and was like, huh, what do
these guys have going on? So I started looking into
like where they're playing at and maybe their friends or
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their bands that keep that they're close with and whatnot.
So I heard about a show that was like close
to me and that wasn't like super far away. It
was in Charlottesville, which is like a hour and some
change for me, which isn't that bad. And I call
it a nickname it my birthday show, and listeners, you
guys already know this story. But long story short, I
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went to a show by myself. It was my birthday.
It was freezing, it was outside, but they had meters
up or whatever and it was really cool and I
got hit in the face and it was a good time.
Making sure I was good. Yeah, it was, I mean,
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it was fun, Like I hadn't really like moshmash before,
and that's in a venue that small, like I moshed
at Blue Ri's rock Fest, but I wasn't like super
duper into it. So I was like kind of on
the outskirts, like again on the edge of the pit,
and they're like I want to jump.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
In, but yeah, definite, Yeah that'd be me. I don't
know because I want to injure myself again. You know,
I got dones that me.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So but it was a fun show, and then from
then on I started going to more shows, interacting with
more bands, and then I it's kind of how I
started all of this, so well.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm really glad that it happened. I'm glad I went
to that show. And then again I went to that
one by myself. I was terrified the whole time. I
was like, oh, man, like what if I go.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's crazy because I got to sell story to that.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
You know. It's it's like it's like I kind of
really relate to that because like I that's really how
I started, Like playing with bands is like going to
shows myself, you know what I mean? It just popping
out and like I play in another band from out here,
all called Hyena and dude has his own printing shop,
and you prince for a lot of these bands out here,
you know what I mean, And in the States as well,
you know what I.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Mean, not only just in the Mass but a lot
of other states.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
And every time I pop up, im like, yeah, this
dude's drummer, you know what I mean, and play in
this band, You're like, oh, yeah, you're the Prince's drummer,
you know what I mean. So a lot of times
people just knew me from being in this band, you
know what I mean. But I just had to pop
out myself because I didn't.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Have nobody else to go with.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
So I'm like, I don't really like going by myself
sometimes all the time, the shows, you know what I mean,
the fuck, you know what I mean. Stay at home,
just chill and go to the gym and play some drums,
you know what I'm saying. But it's super dope to
go out there and fucking just like connect with people
and just you know, talk to people sometimes. Like work
Hall was really dope, you know what I mean, because
you have all these people from all these different places,
and you know, you just chop it up with them
and they've seen you play for the first time, and
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they're like, Okay, now we'll chop it up and we'll
play with these guys again, you know, I mean after
they see the sad you know.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So world, the story is, go to shows, even if
you have to go. Oh yeah, go to festivals, Go
see your friends play. Don't don't make up laying mass
excuses about I have the worst anxiety ever. If I
can go to shows myself, then you can do it.
Just so, I was thinking about this and I was curious,
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and I'm not sure how else I'm wondering, how do
you guys add like your cultural backgrounds into your music.
What's maybe something that you learned from like you know,
I don't know, like from your from your parents or
something like that that you incorporate into the music that
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you make.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Now, I mean, I grew up on a whole completely
different type of music. If you want to be honest
with you, then this, I really grew up like like,
I come from a Puerto Rican background.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I saw your flag That's why I was. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
So my father's Puerto Rican and my mother's Puerto Rican.
But I get a lot of my mixed I get
pretty much all my mixed features from my mother Puerto Rican, Black,
Irish Cherokee as well.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
So I really grew up just like a lot of salsa.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Man.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
I ain't gay, but shot the pops in the house
all the time playing Spanish music and then like really
wasn't until I went to school till I got into
like like a lot of punk stuff, like stage hamps,
like Rise Against, like simple punk stuff and everything else
like that. But you know, so a lot of the
influence comes from like that as well as like my teachers, you.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I've taken lessons right now currently with Thomas Prison from
the Fever three three three, the Mars Volta Suicidal Tennis.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
He's you know what was that?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's awesome?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. So I've been pretty busy doing that.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
And I also took in a masterclass with Karla Malini,
who was a proto j of Mike Manini from Dream Theater.
And you know, I just take all these different kind
of influences and I just kind of like messed into
one on the drums and a lot of times really
growing up as a kid, my favorite influence definitely was
Thomas Prison and I just hit him up in the
DMS one day and you know, I just tapped into him.
We've I've been taking lessons with him, learning and soaking
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in all the knowledge ever since. It's just crazy because
I try to mesh to two because he's really like
a gospel drummer, but he could play all kind of
different genre is like jazz. He got this other thing
big tripping, his other band going on. So I just
take all these different kind of influencers. I played jazz
early a lot growing up as a kid as well,
and jazz ensemble and stuff like that. So all these
different influencers play a big part into how the drum sound.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
And a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
You know, drummers, you know, you can't replicate their sound,
you know what I mean. Like you could sit there
and you can change the drummer, you know what I mean,
Like switch up the drummer, but he's not gonna sound
the same, He's not gonna have the same feels.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
He might not have the same knowledge and theory, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
So it really plays a part like yeah, you can
sit there and you can use computer to make a
making records sound like a record, you know what I mean.
But like a lot of times, especially listening to the
soul Mire stuff. When I first listened to it, we
all sat down as together as a collective and listen
to it, and for the first time you can ask
these guys, I was like, holy shit, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
If I'm gonna be able to do this. No, really,
I was like that. I was like scratching my head.
I was like looking away. I was like, man, screw this.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
I was like, but I just didn't No, no, really,
it felt right, you know what I mean. And Brian
can me up, you know what. Let me just try it,
you know what I'm saying. Let me just try and
do it because, like I said, like previously, like the
last couple.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
Months has coming from a metal core background.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
I have a record out right now if you want
to listen to it with my other band Hyena. It's
called Proxima, So you can get a taste of like
how I played drums with the kind of style that's
not as hard as this. It's more influenced by like
Grojiro My some of Men and stuff like that, you
know what I mean. Deftones that was really another big
influence for Hyena, and it's like it's pretty dope, you
know if we check it out on Spotify, apples out everywhere.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
But yeah, that's where really a lot of my influences
come from.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
On the drums, nice awesome and I will definitely go
under like your other band Control. What was your your
thoughts on that?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So that the question you just asked? Right, So I
grew up, you know, So I grew up in Bronx,
New York. I was mostly raised around my mom and
my aunt and you know, I come from a Jamaican
background from Caribbean, So you know, I grew up you know,
listening to a lot of you know, old reggae music,
dance hall music, you know like Jaggie Elephant Man, you know,
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Bougie Bonting.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I don't know, people, I don't know what I'm talking
about or you.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Know or.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yes, that's why I was like, I think I've heard
at least one of those before, I know, for how
often do they do that to you in band practice.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
The first time? But you know, like ja thing.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
So like when I was in middle school, I got
very very big into like Green Day.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I just you know, especially American idiot.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
You know, I just love the aesthetic, you know, black
shirt guy like Spikey Hare, you know, American idiot stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
So I got into pubb very heavily.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
And then eventually, you know, I once I got into
like you know, late middle school, high school, I got
into like, you know, the Craft Course club, asking Alexandria
of mysen Man Black Girl Bride, so I came for
more of that post Stark or the more course I And.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Then eventually, you know, I started listening to heavier stuff
like you know, job for a Cowboy and then Blockdoll
a Murder who I have a lot of influence from
from my screaming as.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Music wise, I grew up playing multiple instruments too, so
I started out with piano that I did a little
bit of drums, that I did some vocals in college
that I did a little bit of guitar and bass.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So I'm I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Usually all around, but with vocals, you know, I grew
up you know, singing, aking choir and like doing like
doing like theater and dancing and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So I'm I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
A theater kid ish because I didn't I wasn't even theater,
but I was doing more like dance dancer titles and
music recitals and stuff, and dance choreography. So I would
do like a lot of tap dancing, hip hop dancing,
jazz company dancing. That's what I used to do a
lot when I was younger, So I was I was
actually more into dancing when I was a lot younger,
And in college I did ballroom competitive ballroom dancing, so
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you know, that was that was another thing for my past.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
So I'm usually all around.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I was always very intuned music, whether I was dancing
it or playing in it. So when I kind of
came into soul mirror with the screaming and stuff and
like that, it was a very new thing to adapt
to because when I first started screaming, I started out
with you know, your typical mid screams that you were
hearing post war core music from, like you know, Beer Tubes,
off Bison Man, devilris Prada, and that was my starting point,
(37:46):
you know. So, you know, except for vocalists who were
just started out, you know, it's always good to start
with things that you know there's nothing wrong with, you know,
usually what you have, because you can get far with that.
But it's also good to learn more stuff.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
So that's how I started.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I started out with beer brone stuff, then eventually I evolved.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
So, like, my influence is a pretty bast you know,
I'm usually all around.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I really so much because you are a kid, and
I was also a theater kid. I did sports and
theater when I was in school, and then I didn't
do theater in college just because I got busy to
another stuff. But yeah, so I definitely relate on that front. Brian,
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what were some of the things that you listened to
when you were growing up and some of your other influences.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Honestly, just a lot of like that old school dad rock,
Knock Gonna Light. My dad was music.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
My dad was.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Super big into Rush, super big into like Sabbath and
Nausie and all this stuff. So I grew up a
lot around that. The biggest thing for me, I'm not
gonna lie and a lot of people are probably gonna
let them be fine for this. But in Tony Hawk's
Underground One, the first game that came out like PlayStation two,
there was a secret level after you had beaten the game,
and it was all like Kiss teamed like the band
(39:08):
Kiss and they had.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
When you you know, do the skate challenge where.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You collect all the letters and ship you collected the
letters in this level for kiss and it played a
video of them with like I think it was like
the Australians like Symphony Orchestra or some some like big
you know, sixty piece orchestra band and they're playing got
a Thunder and I was just like, this is so heavy.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I didn't know about the secret level. How did I
know this?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
They're actually hawks game too.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna be cool. I'm definitely getting that.
But that was that was like the start of it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And then you know, slip Knot and fucking Avenge Sevenfold
all he this shif from back in the day. That
was all good, and then fucking White Chapel came out
Saw as the Law, and I was that's even heavier
bouncy too.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
They put this yeah album, dude, it's.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
The last song on the album is so good, like
they just do like a whole solo and thing. It's
basically solo in for like the rest of the song,
and it's like pretty nice to see that.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And death Cood so you know what, you have to
see that as much.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, it was cool, big fan of White Chapel. That's
all all that stuff, you know, I grew up on.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, yeah, I definitely relate on the influences My
mom played like she would play like Motown, like R
and B and like country and stuff, listening to a
lot of that. And my dad would play like like Nas,
Biggie Park, all that kind of stuff, my deep n
(41:03):
w A, you know, the great and so I grew
up listening to that, and then I found my way
into rock. I listened to like the dad rock stuff,
so like Breaking Benjamin's my all time favorite band.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
I saw them and Bush Yeah back in at the
Infinity Center.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
I don't know how many years, probably two years ago now, oh.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh that's right, because they have I forgot that Alice
was still going because they have a vocalist that's really dope.
I would have I would pay a very large amount
of money to see the original lineup of Alice and
Change with Lane Stay, Question Peace. That would be dope.
That would be insane actually. But so I grew up
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listening to that kind of stuff and then found my
way into rock and found my way to like you said,
like State Champs, bear Tooth was a big one. I
had a huge which crushed on Andy when I was
like every other middle school girl.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
And then I just found the heavier stuff. I started
listening to, like Trivium and Knocked Loose. I got to
see Knocked Louse like for the first time. I don't
think i'd ever listened to them actually before I saw
them in concert, and my friend that I went to
Blue Jockfest with was like, dude, we gotta go see
Knock Louz blah blah blah. And I was like, who.
(42:31):
I hadn't heard of them before then, or I had
heard of them, but I hadn't listened to them, So
I was like, wait what. And I was like, should
I do some research on this beforehand? And he said, no,
absolutely not. It's gonna be a big surprise and you're
gonna love it. I go and and Brian blew me away.
I was like what, this is so amazing, And of course,
(42:52):
of course they played counting Worms and I was.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That was a great time and and kind.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Of you know, Oblivion is just a little bit better
that tempo chains Bro.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
That is dope.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Definitely. Yes, Yes, it is great. Yeah, but so I've
been kind of hanging out in the local scene ever since,
and it's been really cool.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
What's your favorite heart? Who's your favorite metal bad locally?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Oh god, that's a hard question. Let's see. I like there.
I mean, there's a lot of great bands. I mean,
you got Verya, you got Ashes of Avarice, my friend
(43:48):
Corey's little band. Even though they're not together anymore, I
still listen to their stuff every once in a while.
Oh my god, what was her name? Oh the Layment Configuration.
I listened to their stuff Disposed. They're all from Virginia.
They're not from Virginia anymore, or they're not. They're not
together anymore, but I still listen to their album Gradual Slip.
(44:12):
I don't know if you've ever heard them, but that album, yeah,
I know, right, the last thing they put out, I
think before they disbanded or whatever, was really really good.
It's one It was one of my favorites from the
year that came out. I think it was either I
think it was twenty twenty three. But there's, like, I mean,
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there's hundreds of bands that I could name off the
top of my head. That aren't even from Virginia that
I bumped like all the time. Dark Divine is one.
I haven't listened to Dark Divine.
Speaker 8 (44:48):
Dark Divine is dope because I saw them. You ever
heard of Late Nine?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
So my boys, Jay actually started the Late nine.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
I know him really well and he played He played
a show over there with.
Speaker 8 (44:59):
Dark Divine before they even blew up. I don't remember
what the venue was.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
I don't know if it was Alchemy or I know,
somewhere in Providence and I had wet and uh because
I always just go to shows just to pop because
I was like, damn, your band is so sick.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
I knew it was gonna pop up before it even
popped off.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
And I saw Doctor Vine then I was like, yo,
this band is too good to be playing here. I'm like, bro,
they got to be doing something crazy one day. Now
they're doing all these like crazy toys. And then they
tore Black Veil Brides, right.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I think. So I saw them. I saw them, and
that's the name of the that was the name of
the venue in Richmond, and I was going to break
down Canal Club. I actually I messed up my elbow
at that show because people started watching The Dark Divine
and like the girls were going hard, like they were
not playing and I drifted, fell and busted my elbow.
(45:46):
Was like, why, it's it's fine though, It's all good.
It was. It was like a burn more than anything.
It was like a carpet burn.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
It was.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was pretty rough when it first happened, but it healed.
It's all good. Another good band from Virginia Gone Cold.
I love them. They're really they're they're cool guys. To
shout out to them. I listened to They're not from Virginia,
but fight from within Them's the Home's real for real love.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
That was just talking trying to get a show set
up with them. Sometimes, Yeah, something we're.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Trying to look Mikey is a huge reason why I
have this show, and he's been a great friend and
a cool influence. He's a he's a dope dude, and
the whole band is sick. I've seen them multiple times
and they've been great every time.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So. I'm wondering. I know you've mentioned
I know you guys talked about all this, like the
shows that you guys have coming up, and I know
you have a couple of weekend runs and such that
are going to be happening, so you know, I'm sure
you'll be announcing well from keep an eye out for those.
(47:03):
But is there anything else that you would like to
share with the fans?
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Mmm?
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I think like, yeah, we're just focusing on shows right
now and getting betting out there and trying to you know,
make some new connections, meet some new people, play for
some new audiences and doing all that.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
I subscribed to.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Like, you know, can you talk about it after us?
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Check out our YouTube channels, give her our music videos,
some love our music video.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
I am.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
It's like just about to hit thirty k, but like
people just are just being stingy with the with the
share and like so if you could just bump that
up to thirty k, that'll be dope. And also also
we have the behind the scenes things because I know,
like us, we used to grow up, we used to
watch our favorite band members goof off and do like
cool stuff and behind the scenes stuff. So we also
do that, you know for the fans. So if you
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guys want to check out behind the scenes stuff, oh
you you can't give that some luck to you.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Know, awesome, awesome, Well, guys, it has been so great
talking with you and getting to know you and hearing
your stories. That is my bread and butter. I love that,
so thank you so much for sharing and letting me
get to know you.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
For having us.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely listeners. You guys know how we get
down over here. You know we always support the homies
to make sure you guys can like comments, share, subscribe
all that good stuff to soul mer go to shows
when they have them by March when they have it.
You guys know the drill. Gentlemen, it has been real.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (48:40):
Take it easy
What is up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back to another episode of the Misfit Minutes podcast.
I'm your host, of course, Jade. If you're near around here, welcome,
If you're not around here, welcome back to the chaos.
So for today's episode, I have not one, not too
but three very special guests with me. I have Katrell,
Brian and Julian from Sohmer. Welcome guys. What's good to
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have you guys on. Definitely excited to get into things.
First things first, I really like you guys's website. I
like the vibe, I like the colors. It looks super professional.
I really like the.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Website.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Was definitely a tough project, just because that's our first
time setting something like that up. But having like reviews
and people talking about yourself helps a lot makes it,
you know, to add, like the quotes and all this
make it look real, real nice.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, it definitely looks really nice, like how the album
art is right there. And again I really like the
color scheme too. The color scheme looks really dopee.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Black and gold for the wind baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So I was curious because I'm pretty sure that you
guys hit me up first, I'm curious how did you
find me?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So that was actually quite a long process.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Towards the beginning of the year, we were kind of
just trying to figure out what we wanted to do
this year, and you know, obviously doing the whole band thing.
We got to you know, look at promotion, impressed and
getting you know, getting our name out there on certain
things that are recognizable.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And I forgot exactly how we found you and and
the whole musical misfit uh team.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But it was definitely along the process of you know,
looking at our favorite bands, some of the bands that
we know, what they're doing, what they got going on,
who they know, who they talked to. Definitely definitely a
big research project, but right worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, I'd say it pretty good. And I'm relatively new
to you guys. So as far as I guess you're,
for lack of better word, like your origin story, how
did you guys start your project?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So, I think so me and Brian met up I
think in twenty twenty one, as you know, he was
like and he'said he you know, he basically basically knew
he started to do like a mutual friend. And originally
when I first joined the band, it was to be
a drummer actually not the vocalist, so try.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
That out.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Didn't work as well, but I was determined, and that
first day I came to like his house, I was like, hey,
let me hop on that mic and.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Let me just do do some vocals.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I just I started doing vocals like maybe a couple
of months and so I was relatively new.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
And then Brian kind of just stalled that whole.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Like, oh, he's really good at vocal he has he
has he at least has like potential.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
So that's kind of how I started.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Basically, just dude jumped on the mic and just started
ripping and said, all right, cool.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Nice, I like it. I like it. What's been I
guess kind of like the most difficult thing to learn
as far as being a vocalist. How have you been
kind of I guess cultivating your skills?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So screaming is actually a very relatively new thing for me,
so i'd probausly. I've been doing it for about two
years and then doing shows. It hasn't been a full
year yet, but once it hits maybe I think one
of August was our first show, it will be like
a full year of I was doing a full show,
so I was very new to it do so for
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me vocally, where I came from was I was in
school most of the time in college, and I went
to school for music and music d and I was
a vocal major, so I was classically trained. I did,
you know a little bit of Broadway music, opera and like,
you know, I listened to my post or core emo
music stuff, so I'll do that. And eventually, I guess
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I knew the techniques of how screaming went.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I just didn't know how to project.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
So like throughout the years, I guess me learning things,
and I you know, I took lessons with David Banidis
from Extreme Vocal School.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
So he helped me a lot kind of like helped.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Me get more in two with my screaming voice, basically
telling me things that he needs to know, you know,
expectations to have and like I guess, I real expectations
that may come up.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Along the way in my journey.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So it was a very tough thing for me to
kind of adjust to, especially because I needed.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
To record the album within a year of learning how.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
To scream, So once that happened, it was it was
very stressful for me. Recorded an album because it was
either I would come in sometimes into sessions and I
would worry if my voice didn't work. Day my voice
would work, and like you know, I would take like
basically like six hours to finish one song, you know,
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because I was just very I was learning this as
I was going. But like once I finished the whole thing,
it it became worth it.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I say this all the time, Like in the final product,
when I finished the whole thing, it was it was
worth it, and it was kind of cool to see
where I.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Came from in my vocal journey and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So you know what, in regards to maintaining my voice,
I keep I do the same things you would do as.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
A regular vocalist.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
You know, when to stop obviously, try not to smoke
before the show.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I kind of failed in that part. But I'm doing
my thing like that. I'm gonna start new so also,
you know water.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I also brought this this one second after this FX's
bait ding.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Actually it's yeah, so it's like it's a try hard thing,
but you know it works. This right here, I brought
this from me.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh so it's like a vapor in haler, you know,
just to clear you sinus. This is one of the
things I realized as a vocalist, especially with screaming. I
noticed that my sinuses will get clogged up a lot
with like, you know, mucus, because like I activated a.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Lot when I do vocals.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Do you also want to make sure that your sinuses
are very clear when you do vocals and stuff.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
So I say, another good vocal tip.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So yeah, that is that's definitely a pro tip for
sure future vocalists out there, even the vocalists who were
little seasoned and didn't didn't know listen to listen to control.
He's trying to hook you up. That is really cool,
though I don't think I've ever heard anyone mentioned that
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as like a way to you know, stay doing well
with their vocals. So that's really neat. I like it.
I like it. So you guys said that you said
that you played your first show in August of last year.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yes, it was on the twenty Seconds the day the
day or album dropped show.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Wow that and I was with skin Crawl. Yeah, skin
crawled a curse? When was that Jamison's Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Nice? Sorry, I train of thought just went away. I apologize.
I was gonna ask about how Yeah, I know, right,
adhd Crew, I was gonna ask, I guess kind of
how your your first show went. Were there any kind
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of hiccups or anything that you had to work through
and how did you work through it?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Well?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
I mean it's kind of different because you know that's Cat.
Was that your first show, right, ye? So you know
I've been playing shows prior to that for the last.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
Couple of years.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
I was doing like a metal core kind of band
thing pre is to joining Soul Mirrors. So, and I
know Brian has live experience as well, so we've both
had live experience. This is Cat's first time having live experience,
and it's honestly working out really great.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, so, yeah, we did it.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We did a lot of prep for that show, a
lot of planning, a lot of like looking at it went.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Provided we did locked in.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We lost the run about it, but we did lose
a rug. We lost, yeah, the one the one took up.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It'd be like god, but oh I'm glad that it didn't.
That nothing crazy happened. I've definitely talked to folks before
and they're like, our first show was ridiculous. Everything went wrong.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Wrong, though, But we practiced a lot. You know, we
practiced a lot before that Fresh show. You know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
We're really well prepared. We just kept sounding better every
other show, you know what I mean. That's just how
it is.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You know, the more practice you do, you.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Know, the better the tighter you lock in, you know
what I mean. And I guess like muscle memory to
that point.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Absolutely, Yeah, one thousand percent. Practice makes perfect. If you
go a whole month without screaming and try to play show,
it's not gonna work. If you don't, you know, you
go without playing the drums or playing your guitar for
a long period of time, it's just not gonna go well.
And then you're like, why do we sound terrible? I
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heard sounded like trash? Oh man, Yeah, well, I'm glad
to hear that it went well. And I was looking
at y'all's album, Yeah, guess I was looking at it yesterday,
and I actually I liked one of y'all songs like
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a while ago, but I hadn't set had a chance
to sit down and listen to the whole album front
to back, which I did. I did have a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
To thank you. I thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
A second Sinking In.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Is that everyone's like favorite song.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
When you ask, you got a lot of different genres,
a lot of different tastes, a lot of on of
different flavors on the record, and that one's definitely more
of like the stricter death core kind of you know,
coorse tound. But yeah, we've got We've everybody tells us
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a different song when whenever asked what their favorite is,
it's it's usually either Sinking in the root the rot
or likes Company, or something staggering forwards.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Sagony Ford is a big one.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
My favorite is my favorite is on Bathing Sin Like
it doesn't get as much love, but I love bathings
and so much. I just like the horror of the
guitars great with athensin it just kind of lingers throughout
the whole song as a shadow.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That was very very dirty, very dirty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I did it. What kind of was your thought process
as far as putting the album together and maybe like
your song structure and I kind of how you put
things in order the way you felt like they needed
to be.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And so there's a really good story about that actually
really really early early on when we're around the time
when we first started, I went over to Cats and
we kind of just sat down and we're like, all right,
we want to we want to put a record together.
We want to put like, you know, full twelve song,
full album together and really have it, you know, have
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some weight and have.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Some substance to it. What do we make this about?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And we started for like an hour and we just
kind of, you know, chopped up old memories from back
in the day of like when we're growing up and ship.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And we kind of you know, pieced together this.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Story of what you know, life was like for us
growing up and you know, the kind of situations that
we were in. That's that's part, honestly, probably my favorite
part of the record is you know, the lyrics and
the stories that are underneath all of it, because.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're super, super real, super.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You know, a most points fucked up, to be honest,
but it's deeed.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It goes super deep.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And we kind of, you know, we had the layout
of the story and we're like, all right, let's you know,
write the music around it and make the music sound
like the lyrics and really you know, tie the two together.
But that was like a couple of months process that
took a while to really nailing down and figure it
all out.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, it's definitely hard creating art and then kind of
bringing bringing up maybe like old things of things that
you know, most you might not want to talk about
or think about, but putting it on paper. I know,
for me, I journal a lot so and I write
some you know, occasionally a song here and there, but
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mostly like poetry and that kind of stuff. But out
on paper definitely helps, and you never know, and you
end up turning it into something I don't necessarily, I
don't want to say beautiful, because then that's just glorifying pain,
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which you don't want to do that. But at the
same time, it ends up becoming something that is desirable
and enjoyable and other people can relate to. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I always thought that argument was interesting as far
as like when people put out music or art or
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what have you, and you have and you're like, oh man,
this is so cool, and then they like you hear
the story behind it, and you're like, I feel really
bad literally liking this now, but it's really good.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But is you know the I think the ugly things
that like people don't like is what attracts people to
like those art styles, and I think it's it's a
it's a way that people can express it without like
actually addressing it like hardcore, like you know, instead of
being direct, you can express it through music. And I
guess that's relatable and that's why people like it, and like,
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you know, you don't have to feel bad about liking
like that kind of bad stuff, but it's relatable and
then you know it's real sometimes, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
That's exactly why people wash too, you.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Know what I mean, people.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Speaking metals metal, you know, darky heavy stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You know, yes, yes, it is I guess kind of
lightening things up a bit. Speaking of I want to
hear crazy mash stories.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
So my first pick I've been in it was like
it was I think those bands work towards twenty fifteen,
and it was just band called one hundred. I wasn't cool,
but it was like a cool little It was like
a they're a little bit bigger now, but it was
just band called one hundred and it was our first
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most ever and it was sick and I'm glad work
towards back, even though it's not really the same how
it used to be.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
But you know the fact that it's somewhat back, you know,
I'm happy about and.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
That's like one of the that's one of my goals
is to play.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's one of my So, yeah, is this crazy Moss
stories from our lives or crazy Moss stories from the
bands from the band's live shows.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I could think of one.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I don't know if you were there at the end
of at the end of Warcock and Cherry now.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
One of do you want to tell the story? Were
you there for that night? Were you there when that happened?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I was, so I was thinking in the car, yeah
he was. He was like, let's go, let's go, and
I was like, no, we're trying to stay. I'm trying
to stay. So it was bearing point I think was
playing and somebody got knocked out. I wasn't there for it,
but I'm pretty sure Brian was. He might know further
in detail. But so I got like knocked out, and
then uh, like it just got crazy after that, and
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like the energy was super tense in the room and
then the cops got called. So even if I wanted
to leave, I couldn't really leave. So we're here now,
you know, so so yeah, it was just wild, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
Like, I'm pretty sure Connecticut really just gets down like that.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I've heard a lot of fight stories from Connecticut, so
I'm not from Connecticut for myself, I'm from Massachusetts. But yeah,
I like, you know, every time we play out there,
it's something crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So yeah, and my one of my goals. And I
would love to go to like like a base, not
a basement show, but like a small show in New
York because I have never a I've never been to
New York and b yeah, no, it's what deal is.
My my husband has nephews and nieces that live in
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New York. I'm like, why have we never been? I
want to go there.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's nice, It's I'll say, it's nice to covering from
a fellow New Yorker, it's nice. I don't live anywhere
by I grew up there, but it's very nice to visit.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
But living there is different. I'll stay that living there different.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, you've mentioned that a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's like because someone was telling me, like a couple
of weeks ago, I was mentioning that I wanted to
go to New York and they were like, why would
you want to go to New York? It's terrible. It
smells like you got people bumping into you and not
saying excuse me, and like, I mean that's fair. I
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mean I guess, like I don't know experience.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, so really nice show coming up on April thirteenth
in New York and Nayak.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah we're talking. We're talking about the the Club.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
How you pronounce that?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, we're playing with the rat Blood, Paradox Black right,
that's the other names, Black Winner and More.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
This we're doing, like what a three day run with them?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Right, I don't know if it's with I don't know
there's three days with More. I think it's like we
got two days with them. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
So yeah, that was pretty that was pretty gonna be
pretty dope.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
One I'm really looking forward to is the one in
am with Roseline, rat Blood, the Flood. Yeah, that one's
gonna go really hard. And then we got a Palladium
show coming up for that one again. Yeah yeah, Palladium, Yeah,
palladiums far. We got a Platium show coming up with
eCos Fade and uh, they're pretty cool guys. And then
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we got a Webster show coming up shortly after that,
which is gonna be super far.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
We're playing with Trench Harker Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, it's got a lot of stuff coming up. Yeah,
it's exciting though, it's cool.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Mm hmm. Yeah. I'm definitely glad that you guys have
stuff going on. I am in Virginia, so I doubt
that I would be able to make it to these
shows Boo.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Virginia, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I'll be there in spirit.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But that we'll say something. I'll probably like, yeah, July. Yeah,
have you been.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Down this way, like, either for music or just in general.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I think I've been to Virginia like the once or twice.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I've never been, yeah or not.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
A couple of times been down south my old my
old band did a two week run down the Florida
so we hit like all the Carolinas in Virginia and
West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So this is way back in the day though, But
I can't wait to get back out on the road
and do that again.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I've never done it before. There'll be a whole new
thing for me.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, Brian, what what what's your what's your favorite thing about being.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
On the road.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh, this is such an easy question.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
If you once you get out to like Pennsylvania and
where there's no light pollution, you can look up and
see the Milky Way. That's that's it, hands down the
greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. You can
see every little like every little star, all the satellites
and stuff going.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It's it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That is really cool. It's really nice when there's no
no street lights and stuff and you can just look
up and see the stars.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I live not like in the country, but like far
enough in the country where it's out the way, so
I don't really have a lot of like big buildings
and stuff around me, which is nice. If I want
to go to the city, I can just drive thirty
minutes up the road and do that if I feel
like it, which I usually don't. But yeah, I work
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like on the outskirts of the city too, so I
can avoid like mainstream traffic at all costs if I
want to, which is really nice.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So I know that you said that you're in school
or you were in school control. Yeah, what what kind
of things do you guys do outside of your band?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I teach.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I teach music.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
I love that, and I uh, I like working out.
That's about it.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Yeah, so it's crazy actually as to teach as well.
So I teach drums and I'm a finish freak, so
I hit the gym a lot. But yeah, so and
then the band life is really just where it's at
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right now.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
So I need to find more hobby. Yeah, I like
the game also, I like video games. I like the
game too.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I got you.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I don't too much. I don't too much aside from work,
come home and work on the band.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Pretty much.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, we're pretty simple people, so happy.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I'm have some fun outside of being a band. You
got a few other things kind of.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually going I'm actually going to a
show tonight, which is pretty dope.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Like this. So this hoodie that I'm wearing right here
is my boy Tony.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
He's like booker, like promoter, and we plan a show
with him on the twenty second Gateway and Lawrence. Yeah
so I'm actually from over here in Marrimack Valley, Massachusetts,
and yeah, so about to just pop out tonight. But yeah,
really it's just a super dope thing that he got
going on because Marrimack Valley Hardcard was once a thing
and I was too young to be a part of it,
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but now it's coming back because of him.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Really, So it's super dope because you get to see all.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
These bands come out here and you know, meeting bands
from Maine, New York, Pennsylvania, you know all over there,
you know, the East Coast, the East Side. So and
he's putting on really for a big way in mass
So that's really dope.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's awesome. Sounds like it's gonna be a good time
for sure, and.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
And thank you you're welcome. Shout out to Queen City,
Queen City.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Insane.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Played It's crazy because actually before he moved out, we
played his house show, his last house show, this dude.
And that was like another thing that was like tied
into like the whole washing thing was the five nine.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Five nine is like a really big thing over here.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
It used to be like a house venue type of
thing and it was like a basement, like in a basement,
and it was like super dope, like and I had
like went to the last five to nine show.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
It was with like burying point author of Next. I'm
pretty sure the flood played it. What was that?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I really like being point Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Bearing portant. It is hard, Yeah, shout out them.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
But yeah, I injured myself there. I threw my shoulder out.
Yeah it was super bad. Yeah, I mean that place
is like known for like people just getting injured left
and right. But it's like a super dope venue. You know,
Rob is a super cool guy and Tony you know,
he's They're.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
All cool guys, you know what I mean. So, but yeah,
I didn't get a chance to play there.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
I was supposed to play there, and I didn't get
the chance to play that. I'm super bummed out because they.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Don't have it going on anymore.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Let's close the shut down, you know. So but yeah,
so that that's a super dope thing going on. And
we played that house show that was pretty dope. Tony's
last house show we got on the last minute. That
was like last year, September, right like the fourteenth, I
believe something like that.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
So that it was fun because it was in the basement.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It was actually one of the best goals that I
actually played with funny, really cool.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Super intimate, you know what I mean, dope and like
talking to all these people you know what I mean,
Like people are super cool there, you know, they got
to like chills.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Down the Earth by.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely their guitar, their guitars are they're all kids,
They're all kids.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I personally have never been to a house show, but
I've definitely been to a lot of small I know,
terrible that, but like there's there's no venues like around
here and nowhere.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Because I was just about to ask, like what's the
best venue around well, I.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Mean there's so I take that back. There are good
venues here in Virginia. Where the problem is where I
live is really inconvenient for every venue that's good. So
like except for like one, there's like a couple of
places in Lyunchberg. They're kind of hit or miss and
they don't do shows very often.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
So so you don't have any touring acts come your way,
like you So we are like that.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So a lot of the a lot of the shows
happen either Beach or rich In. So like we have
like in Virginia Beach we have like my god, what
is it called riff house? If tap house we got
(26:16):
there's a couple of other ones in Richmond. There's a
couple as well, I'll have to write it down and
I'll send it to you because I'm just but there's
like a there's an arcade here and that's like thirtysh
minutes away from me. That's I think gonna start doing
some shows soon. I don't know a lot of details,
but I've heard from two different people that I think
(26:37):
they're gonna start booking some stuff. I don't know the genre,
all the genres per se, but because one place that
used the book there was a record store that had
a couple of shows here and there, which was really
cool because it's like a vinyl shop and they would
have shows there. But I think they had to move buildings,
(26:58):
so that kind of sucks. But I think I don't
think they can do anything at their new location. But
I think they were going to partner up with a
local booking guy that was going to try, excuse me,
try to do some stuff. I really miss a venue.
I missed Champion Brewery in Charlottesville. Uh. That was actually
(27:20):
technically the first show I ever went to, like local. Yeah,
so I didn't start going to shows until like a
couple of years ago because I didn't really a I
didn't have anyone to go with B Like I just
I didn't find the local scene yet, so I kind
of just I sometimes, Well now I thought the show
(27:45):
is by myself all the time, but at the time
I hadn't. I'd been to like Blue Rig's Rock Fast
and a couple of other concerts, and I wanted more.
So I started looking into like the smaller bands that
it played Blue Ridge and was like, huh, what do
these guys have going on? So I started looking into
like where they're playing at and maybe their friends or
(28:06):
their bands that keep that they're close with and whatnot.
So I heard about a show that was like close
to me and that wasn't like super far away. It
was in Charlottesville, which is like a hour and some
change for me, which isn't that bad. And I call
it a nickname it my birthday show, and listeners, you
guys already know this story. But long story short, I
(28:28):
went to a show by myself. It was my birthday.
It was freezing, it was outside, but they had meters
up or whatever and it was really cool and I
got hit in the face and it was a good time.
Making sure I was good. Yeah, it was, I mean,
(28:48):
it was fun, Like I hadn't really like moshmash before,
and that's in a venue that small, like I moshed
at Blue Ri's rock Fest, but I wasn't like super
duper into it. So I was like kind of on
the outskirts, like again on the edge of the pit,
and they're like I want to jump.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
In, but yeah, definite, Yeah that'd be me. I don't
know because I want to injure myself again. You know,
I got dones that me.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So but it was a fun show, and then from
then on I started going to more shows, interacting with
more bands, and then I it's kind of how I
started all of this, so well.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm really glad that it happened. I'm glad I went
to that show. And then again I went to that
one by myself. I was terrified the whole time. I
was like, oh, man, like what if I go.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's crazy because I got to sell story to that.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
You know. It's it's like it's like I kind of
really relate to that because like I that's really how
I started, Like playing with bands is like going to
shows myself, you know what I mean? It just popping
out and like I play in another band from out here,
all called Hyena and dude has his own printing shop,
and you prince for a lot of these bands out here,
you know what I mean, And in the States as well,
you know what I.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Mean, not only just in the Mass but a lot
of other states.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
And every time I pop up, im like, yeah, this
dude's drummer, you know what I mean, and play in
this band, You're like, oh, yeah, you're the Prince's drummer,
you know what I mean. So a lot of times
people just knew me from being in this band, you
know what I mean. But I just had to pop
out myself because I didn't.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Have nobody else to go with.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
So I'm like, I don't really like going by myself
sometimes all the time, the shows, you know what I mean,
the fuck, you know what I mean. Stay at home,
just chill and go to the gym and play some drums,
you know what I'm saying. But it's super dope to
go out there and fucking just like connect with people
and just you know, talk to people sometimes. Like work
Hall was really dope, you know what I mean, because
you have all these people from all these different places,
and you know, you just chop it up with them
and they've seen you play for the first time, and
(30:39):
they're like, Okay, now we'll chop it up and we'll
play with these guys again, you know, I mean after
they see the sad you know.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So world, the story is, go to shows, even if
you have to go. Oh yeah, go to festivals, Go
see your friends play. Don't don't make up laying mass
excuses about I have the worst anxiety ever. If I
can go to shows myself, then you can do it.
Just so, I was thinking about this and I was curious,
(31:11):
and I'm not sure how else I'm wondering, how do
you guys add like your cultural backgrounds into your music.
What's maybe something that you learned from like you know,
I don't know, like from your from your parents or
something like that that you incorporate into the music that
(31:33):
you make.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Now, I mean, I grew up on a whole completely
different type of music. If you want to be honest
with you, then this, I really grew up like like,
I come from a Puerto Rican background.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I saw your flag That's why I was. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
So my father's Puerto Rican and my mother's Puerto Rican.
But I get a lot of my mixed I get
pretty much all my mixed features from my mother Puerto Rican, Black,
Irish Cherokee as well.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
So I really grew up just like a lot of salsa.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Man.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
I ain't gay, but shot the pops in the house
all the time playing Spanish music and then like really
wasn't until I went to school till I got into
like like a lot of punk stuff, like stage hamps,
like Rise Against, like simple punk stuff and everything else
like that. But you know, so a lot of the
influence comes from like that as well as like my teachers, you.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I've taken lessons right now currently with Thomas Prison from
the Fever three three three, the Mars Volta Suicidal Tennis.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
He's you know what was that?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's awesome?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. So I've been pretty busy doing that.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
And I also took in a masterclass with Karla Malini,
who was a proto j of Mike Manini from Dream Theater.
And you know, I just take all these different kind
of influences and I just kind of like messed into
one on the drums and a lot of times really
growing up as a kid, my favorite influence definitely was
Thomas Prison and I just hit him up in the
DMS one day and you know, I just tapped into him.
We've I've been taking lessons with him, learning and soaking
(32:52):
in all the knowledge ever since. It's just crazy because
I try to mesh to two because he's really like
a gospel drummer, but he could play all kind of
different genre is like jazz. He got this other thing
big tripping, his other band going on. So I just
take all these different kind of influencers. I played jazz
early a lot growing up as a kid as well,
and jazz ensemble and stuff like that. So all these
different influencers play a big part into how the drum sound.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
And a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
You know, drummers, you know, you can't replicate their sound,
you know what I mean. Like you could sit there
and you can change the drummer, you know what I mean,
Like switch up the drummer, but he's not gonna sound
the same, He's not gonna have the same feels.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
He might not have the same knowledge and theory, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
So it really plays a part like yeah, you can
sit there and you can use computer to make a
making records sound like a record, you know what I mean.
But like a lot of times, especially listening to the
soul Mire stuff. When I first listened to it, we
all sat down as together as a collective and listen
to it, and for the first time you can ask
these guys, I was like, holy shit, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
If I'm gonna be able to do this. No, really,
I was like that. I was like scratching my head.
I was like looking away. I was like, man, screw this.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
I was like, but I just didn't No, no, really,
it felt right, you know what I mean. And Brian
can me up, you know what. Let me just try it,
you know what I'm saying. Let me just try and
do it because, like I said, like previously, like the
last couple.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
Months has coming from a metal core background.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
I have a record out right now if you want
to listen to it with my other band Hyena. It's
called Proxima, So you can get a taste of like
how I played drums with the kind of style that's
not as hard as this. It's more influenced by like
Grojiro My some of Men and stuff like that, you
know what I mean. Deftones that was really another big
influence for Hyena, and it's like it's pretty dope, you
know if we check it out on Spotify, apples out everywhere.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
But yeah, that's where really a lot of my influences
come from.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
On the drums, nice awesome and I will definitely go
under like your other band Control. What was your your
thoughts on that?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So that the question you just asked? Right, So I
grew up, you know, So I grew up in Bronx,
New York. I was mostly raised around my mom and
my aunt and you know, I come from a Jamaican
background from Caribbean, So you know, I grew up you know,
listening to a lot of you know, old reggae music,
dance hall music, you know like Jaggie Elephant Man, you know,
(35:08):
Bougie Bonting.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I don't know, people, I don't know what I'm talking
about or you.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Know or.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yes, that's why I was like, I think I've heard
at least one of those before, I know, for how
often do they do that to you in band practice.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
The first time? But you know, like ja thing.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
So like when I was in middle school, I got
very very big into like Green Day.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I just you know, especially American idiot.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
You know, I just love the aesthetic, you know, black
shirt guy like Spikey Hare, you know, American idiot stuff
like that.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
So I got into pubb very heavily.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
And then eventually, you know, I once I got into
like you know, late middle school, high school, I got
into like, you know, the Craft Course club, asking Alexandria
of mysen Man Black Girl Bride, so I came for
more of that post Stark or the more course I And.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Then eventually, you know, I started listening to heavier stuff
like you know, job for a Cowboy and then Blockdoll
a Murder who I have a lot of influence from
from my screaming as.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Music wise, I grew up playing multiple instruments too, so
I started out with piano that I did a little
bit of drums, that I did some vocals in college
that I did a little bit of guitar and bass.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So I'm I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Usually all around, but with vocals, you know, I grew
up you know, singing, aking choir and like doing like
doing like theater and dancing and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So I'm I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
A theater kid ish because I didn't I wasn't even theater,
but I was doing more like dance dancer titles and
music recitals and stuff, and dance choreography. So I would
do like a lot of tap dancing, hip hop dancing,
jazz company dancing. That's what I used to do a
lot when I was younger, So I was I was
actually more into dancing when I was a lot younger,
And in college I did ballroom competitive ballroom dancing, so
(37:20):
you know, that was that was another thing for my past.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
So I'm usually all around.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I was always very intuned music, whether I was dancing
it or playing in it. So when I kind of
came into soul mirror with the screaming and stuff and
like that, it was a very new thing to adapt
to because when I first started screaming, I started out
with you know, your typical mid screams that you were
hearing post war core music from, like you know, Beer Tubes,
off Bison Man, devilris Prada, and that was my starting point,
(37:46):
you know. So, you know, except for vocalists who were
just started out, you know, it's always good to start
with things that you know there's nothing wrong with, you know,
usually what you have, because you can get far with that.
But it's also good to learn more stuff.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
So that's how I started.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I started out with beer brone stuff, then eventually I evolved.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
So, like, my influence is a pretty bast you know,
I'm usually all around.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
I really so much because you are a kid, and
I was also a theater kid. I did sports and
theater when I was in school, and then I didn't
do theater in college just because I got busy to
another stuff. But yeah, so I definitely relate on that front. Brian,
(38:29):
what were some of the things that you listened to
when you were growing up and some of your other influences.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Honestly, just a lot of like that old school dad rock,
Knock Gonna Light. My dad was music.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
My dad was.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Super big into Rush, super big into like Sabbath and
Nausie and all this stuff. So I grew up a
lot around that. The biggest thing for me, I'm not
gonna lie and a lot of people are probably gonna
let them be fine for this. But in Tony Hawk's
Underground One, the first game that came out like PlayStation two,
there was a secret level after you had beaten the game,
and it was all like Kiss teamed like the band
(39:08):
Kiss and they had.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
When you you know, do the skate challenge where.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
You collect all the letters and ship you collected the
letters in this level for kiss and it played a
video of them with like I think it was like
the Australians like Symphony Orchestra or some some like big
you know, sixty piece orchestra band and they're playing got
a Thunder and I was just like, this is so heavy.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
I didn't know about the secret level. How did I
know this?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
They're actually hawks game too.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna be cool. I'm definitely getting that.
But that was that was like the start of it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And then you know, slip Knot and fucking Avenge Sevenfold
all he this shif from back in the day. That
was all good, and then fucking White Chapel came out
Saw as the Law, and I was that's even heavier
bouncy too.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
They put this yeah album, dude, it's.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
The last song on the album is so good, like
they just do like a whole solo and thing. It's
basically solo in for like the rest of the song,
and it's like pretty nice to see that.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And death Cood so you know what, you have to
see that as much.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, it was cool, big fan of White Chapel. That's
all all that stuff, you know, I grew up on.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, yeah, I definitely relate on the influences My
mom played like she would play like Motown, like R
and B and like country and stuff, listening to a
lot of that. And my dad would play like like Nas,
Biggie Park, all that kind of stuff, my deep n
(41:03):
w A, you know, the great and so I grew
up listening to that, and then I found my way
into rock. I listened to like the dad rock stuff,
so like Breaking Benjamin's my all time favorite band.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
I saw them and Bush Yeah back in at the
Infinity Center.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
I don't know how many years, probably two years ago now, oh.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh that's right, because they have I forgot that Alice
was still going because they have a vocalist that's really dope.
I would have I would pay a very large amount
of money to see the original lineup of Alice and
Change with Lane Stay, Question Peace. That would be dope.
That would be insane actually. But so I grew up
(41:47):
listening to that kind of stuff and then found my
way into rock and found my way to like you said,
like State Champs, bear Tooth was a big one. I
had a huge which crushed on Andy when I was
like every other middle school girl.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I was just gonna say.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
So.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
And then I just found the heavier stuff. I started
listening to, like Trivium and Knocked Loose. I got to
see Knocked Louse like for the first time. I don't
think i'd ever listened to them actually before I saw
them in concert, and my friend that I went to
Blue Jockfest with was like, dude, we gotta go see
Knock Louz blah blah blah. And I was like, who.
(42:31):
I hadn't heard of them before then, or I had
heard of them, but I hadn't listened to them, So
I was like, wait what. And I was like, should
I do some research on this beforehand? And he said, no,
absolutely not. It's gonna be a big surprise and you're
gonna love it. I go and and Brian blew me away.
I was like what, this is so amazing, And of course,
(42:52):
of course they played counting Worms and I was.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That was a great time and and kind.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Of you know, Oblivion is just a little bit better
that tempo chains Bro.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
That is dope.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Definitely. Yes, Yes, it is great. Yeah, but so I've
been kind of hanging out in the local scene ever since,
and it's been really cool.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
What's your favorite heart? Who's your favorite metal bad locally?
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Oh god, that's a hard question. Let's see. I like there.
I mean, there's a lot of great bands. I mean,
you got Verya, you got Ashes of Avarice, my friend
(43:48):
Corey's little band. Even though they're not together anymore, I
still listen to their stuff every once in a while.
Oh my god, what was her name? Oh the Layment Configuration.
I listened to their stuff Disposed. They're all from Virginia.
They're not from Virginia anymore, or they're not. They're not
together anymore, but I still listen to their album Gradual Slip.
(44:12):
I don't know if you've ever heard them, but that album, yeah,
I know, right, the last thing they put out, I
think before they disbanded or whatever, was really really good.
It's one It was one of my favorites from the
year that came out. I think it was either I
think it was twenty twenty three. But there's, like, I mean,
(44:33):
there's hundreds of bands that I could name off the
top of my head. That aren't even from Virginia that
I bumped like all the time. Dark Divine is one.
I haven't listened to Dark Divine.
Speaker 8 (44:48):
Dark Divine is dope because I saw them. You ever
heard of Late Nine?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 8 (44:53):
So my boys, Jay actually started the Late nine.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
I know him really well and he played He played
a show over there with.
Speaker 8 (44:59):
Dark Divine before they even blew up. I don't remember
what the venue was.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
I don't know if it was Alchemy or I know,
somewhere in Providence and I had wet and uh because
I always just go to shows just to pop because
I was like, damn, your band is so sick.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
I knew it was gonna pop up before it even
popped off.
Speaker 7 (45:12):
And I saw Doctor Vine then I was like, yo,
this band is too good to be playing here. I'm like, bro,
they got to be doing something crazy one day. Now
they're doing all these like crazy toys. And then they
tore Black Veil Brides, right.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I think. So I saw them. I saw them, and
that's the name of the that was the name of
the venue in Richmond, and I was going to break
down Canal Club. I actually I messed up my elbow
at that show because people started watching The Dark Divine
and like the girls were going hard, like they were
not playing and I drifted, fell and busted my elbow.
(45:46):
Was like, why, it's it's fine though, It's all good.
It was. It was like a burn more than anything.
It was like a carpet burn.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
It was.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was pretty rough when it first happened, but it healed.
It's all good. Another good band from Virginia Gone Cold.
I love them. They're really they're they're cool guys. To
shout out to them. I listened to They're not from Virginia,
but fight from within Them's the Home's real for real love.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
That was just talking trying to get a show set
up with them. Sometimes, Yeah, something we're.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Trying to look Mikey is a huge reason why I
have this show, and he's been a great friend and
a cool influence. He's a he's a dope dude, and
the whole band is sick. I've seen them multiple times
and they've been great every time.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely So. I'm wondering. I know you've mentioned
I know you guys talked about all this, like the
shows that you guys have coming up, and I know
you have a couple of weekend runs and such that
are going to be happening, so you know, I'm sure
you'll be announcing well from keep an eye out for those.
(47:03):
But is there anything else that you would like to
share with the fans?
Speaker 7 (47:09):
Mmm?
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I think like, yeah, we're just focusing on shows right
now and getting betting out there and trying to you know,
make some new connections, meet some new people, play for
some new audiences and doing all that.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
I subscribed to.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Like, you know, can you talk about it after us?
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Check out our YouTube channels, give her our music videos,
some love our music video.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
I am.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
It's like just about to hit thirty k, but like
people just are just being stingy with the with the
share and like so if you could just bump that
up to thirty k, that'll be dope. And also also
we have the behind the scenes things because I know,
like us, we used to grow up, we used to
watch our favorite band members goof off and do like
cool stuff and behind the scenes stuff. So we also
do that, you know for the fans. So if you
(47:57):
guys want to check out behind the scenes stuff, oh
you you can't give that some luck to you.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Know, awesome, awesome, Well, guys, it has been so great
talking with you and getting to know you and hearing
your stories. That is my bread and butter. I love that,
so thank you so much for sharing and letting me
get to know you.
Speaker 8 (48:22):
For having us.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely listeners. You guys know how we get
down over here. You know we always support the homies
to make sure you guys can like comments, share, subscribe
all that good stuff to soul mer go to shows
when they have them by March when they have it.
You guys know the drill. Gentlemen, it has been real.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (48:40):
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